WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 208: Recapping the Champions Trophy final 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sat B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:16.133 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:18.453 --> 0:00:21.533 You want to take another pair? Now? That's right, Treck, 0:00:22.093 --> 0:00:26.773 it is out. The test is over, but this smoke 0:00:27.093 --> 0:00:30.413 wow was a bet. It is out and here you guys. 0:00:30.453 --> 0:00:32.333 This delivery has in the US as. 0:00:32.293 --> 0:00:38.533 Befow on the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 0:00:38.853 --> 0:00:42.733 powered by News Talk sead B at iHeart Radio. 0:00:45.253 --> 0:00:48.013 Hello on the Front putback with you once again. The 0:00:48.133 --> 0:00:51.293 Champions Trophy alluded to black Caps, but there was plenty 0:00:51.333 --> 0:00:55.453 to celebrate from their performance in Pakistan, both at the 0:00:55.533 --> 0:00:59.053 Champions Trophy and in the warm up series. An Odi 0:00:59.173 --> 0:01:02.773 tween sweet for the White Fins despite injury issues in 0:01:02.853 --> 0:01:06.373 the camp. This is the long period of preparation starting 0:01:06.413 --> 0:01:09.413 to pay off for our player. Or is it too 0:01:09.453 --> 0:01:13.373 soon to celebrate? Central District Skipper displays his class with 0:01:13.413 --> 0:01:16.733 the third highest score in our domestic game. Why does 0:01:16.773 --> 0:01:21.453 he not get more national recognition? And Hot news of press, 0:01:21.493 --> 0:01:25.413 Michael Brocefoot is going to captain the black Caps in 0:01:25.453 --> 0:01:30.893 the T twitty series against Pakistan starting this coming weekend. 0:01:30.973 --> 0:01:34.253 Hello once more to Jeremy Coney clearly happening in the 0:01:34.253 --> 0:01:36.533 cricket world all around the black Cats pretty much. 0:01:36.493 --> 0:01:41.533 Jerry hid when you're up to date at least, I 0:01:41.573 --> 0:01:47.853 don't know for me down here, but yep, I've I've 0:01:47.853 --> 0:01:50.253 got a little show to do on Friday. We're going 0:01:50.293 --> 0:01:53.813 to inflict some of the Pricton patrons again to the 0:01:53.933 --> 0:01:57.493 music of me and my cousins. So that's that's quite 0:01:57.533 --> 0:02:01.093 a sad thing to say, but never mind, we'll get 0:02:01.133 --> 0:02:01.453 through it. 0:02:01.733 --> 0:02:03.373 Goodness. So they that old down there. 0:02:04.533 --> 0:02:10.493 Oh yes, mate, they wheel them in. Yeah, and you know, 0:02:11.013 --> 0:02:13.053 I know quite a lot of them personally. 0:02:15.573 --> 0:02:18.653 That's good. Yeah, Well, let's get down to pick them 0:02:18.653 --> 0:02:22.493 for that on this coming Friday. But let's gelibrate a 0:02:22.653 --> 0:02:25.613 champions trophy. And we'll hear Jerry's point of view in 0:02:25.653 --> 0:02:27.973 just a moment. I think they're always going to be 0:02:28.013 --> 0:02:30.253 outside us to win the final, but they had moments 0:02:30.293 --> 0:02:33.173 when it became a real chance that we could win 0:02:33.213 --> 0:02:37.053 the one million US dollars that was at stake for 0:02:37.373 --> 0:02:40.173 second place, let alone the two million for first place. 0:02:40.733 --> 0:02:43.693 A chance to discuss those high points in the moment. Firstly, though, 0:02:43.853 --> 0:02:46.493 a final assessment from the skipper. 0:02:47.053 --> 0:02:48.733 Yeah, I guess it's kind of a bit a sweet 0:02:48.733 --> 0:02:51.533 at the end. You know, I think we came up 0:02:51.533 --> 0:02:55.573 against the good side in the final, but yeah, I think, 0:02:56.773 --> 0:02:59.213 you know, we challenged in there at times throughout this game, 0:02:59.253 --> 0:03:01.693 which was which was pleasing. I think there was probably 0:03:01.973 --> 0:03:05.053 a couple of small moments where we let it I 0:03:05.093 --> 0:03:09.013 guess get away from us. But yeah, credit for incredibly 0:03:09.053 --> 0:03:10.813 proud of this group the way we've kind of gone 0:03:10.853 --> 0:03:13.533 about it throughout this tournament. You know, we've had a 0:03:13.573 --> 0:03:15.773 mix of kind of experienced players but a few younger 0:03:15.773 --> 0:03:20.533 players in the squad. So yes, it's it's been. It's been, 0:03:20.773 --> 0:03:23.813 I guess an easy one to captain, different guys stepping 0:03:23.853 --> 0:03:26.893 up at different times throughout the tournament, which has been outstanding. 0:03:26.893 --> 0:03:29.653 And we came up against a very good team today. 0:03:30.693 --> 0:03:33.133 You know, we're in the game for most of it, 0:03:33.253 --> 0:03:36.493 but it was kind of we probably left maybe twenty 0:03:36.573 --> 0:03:39.253 runs out there with the bat and then I think 0:03:39.413 --> 0:03:42.253 way kind of wrote Shama played kind of took it 0:03:42.293 --> 0:03:44.693 away from us a little bit. I think there's probably 0:03:44.693 --> 0:03:49.053 a little bit more turned second innings. I think, you know, 0:03:49.453 --> 0:03:51.893 it was a pretty consistent pitch all the way through. 0:03:51.933 --> 0:03:54.053 I think, you know, I guess coming off the semi 0:03:54.053 --> 0:03:57.133 final where we feel like we can if we get 0:03:57.133 --> 0:03:59.653 a total, we can squeeze teams, and we did that 0:03:59.693 --> 0:04:03.693 for I guess a majority of this game. But yeah, 0:04:03.733 --> 0:04:05.893 I think outside of the power play with the bat, 0:04:06.013 --> 0:04:08.613 we kind of lost a couple pretty quickly and then 0:04:08.613 --> 0:04:10.453 it was it looked it was definitely a hard look 0:04:10.453 --> 0:04:13.493 at the start on and then yeah, I think we 0:04:13.613 --> 0:04:16.453 probably left maybe twenty five out there and then they 0:04:16.493 --> 0:04:21.133 may have been a different game. I think the intent 0:04:21.213 --> 0:04:24.453 we had with the back, especially at the start, was outstanding. 0:04:24.533 --> 0:04:27.013 It was clearly that probably the best time in the 0:04:27.053 --> 0:04:28.773 bat was that was the power plan. I think, you know, 0:04:28.813 --> 0:04:30.493 the way we went about it for the first kind 0:04:30.493 --> 0:04:33.253 of yeah, eight overs or so, it was outstanding. And 0:04:33.333 --> 0:04:36.173 then it took you know, some some brilliants from the 0:04:36.173 --> 0:04:38.293 spin bolls to kind of really pee us back and 0:04:38.333 --> 0:04:42.933 make it I guess challenging through that kind of middle phase. Yeah, 0:04:42.933 --> 0:04:45.493 we didn't. I guess after the start we were probably thinking, 0:04:46.253 --> 0:04:48.373 you know, to eighty two seventy five. But the way 0:04:48.893 --> 0:04:51.733 you know, they were able to squeeze and build pressure 0:04:51.773 --> 0:04:54.853 and then it really I mean the way Michael Brace 0:04:54.853 --> 0:04:56.333 will play to the end got us you know up 0:04:56.373 --> 0:04:58.333 to that kind of that two fifty mark, but it 0:04:58.373 --> 0:05:00.453 was you know, maybe looking a little bit less. 0:05:00.973 --> 0:05:04.093 What about the most encouraging aspects of the competition. 0:05:04.973 --> 0:05:08.013 Yeah, it's never going to go perfectly, you know, these 0:05:08.013 --> 0:05:10.693 tall and I guess with the quick turnaround of games 0:05:10.693 --> 0:05:13.493 like we had, but I think what's most pleasing is, 0:05:13.573 --> 0:05:17.253 you know, different guys got opportunities and and and stepping up. 0:05:17.453 --> 0:05:21.493 Is you know, couldn't be proud of the group. You know, 0:05:21.573 --> 0:05:23.733 guys coming in and out, and it's always it's always 0:05:23.773 --> 0:05:26.773 you obviously want to play every game. But you know, 0:05:26.773 --> 0:05:28.333 I think and then obviously the way Chin came back 0:05:28.373 --> 0:05:30.573 straight away after his head knock and hit the ball 0:05:30.653 --> 0:05:33.933 running and kJ flying over and then you know, putting 0:05:33.973 --> 0:05:36.093 us straight in. And I thought he bowled extremely well 0:05:36.093 --> 0:05:38.573 in the games he played, and you know, obviously a 0:05:38.573 --> 0:05:42.213 tough one losing, losing Tesser today, but you know he 0:05:42.253 --> 0:05:44.373 tried his very best to be to be ready for 0:05:44.533 --> 0:05:47.053 this game. So yeah, I guess there's always adversity in 0:05:47.093 --> 0:05:51.173 these tournaments, and you know, you could you could take 0:05:51.173 --> 0:05:52.853 it back to a few different things, but you know, 0:05:52.893 --> 0:05:55.973 I think, you know, we didn't really complain about anything. 0:05:56.013 --> 0:05:57.853 We just kind of get old and that's that's how 0:05:57.893 --> 0:06:01.373 we we'd like to operate. And yeah, obviously pretty proud 0:06:01.413 --> 0:06:03.013 of the way we kind of fought throughout this whole 0:06:03.013 --> 0:06:05.813 tournament and and different conditions everywhere went. 0:06:05.733 --> 0:06:09.013 Really shame they weren't able to go all the way. 0:06:09.333 --> 0:06:12.973 Two million US would be good money, Jerry, but you know, 0:06:13.373 --> 0:06:15.293 at one point one two is what they get. They 0:06:15.373 --> 0:06:19.333 get about seventy thousand each. Isn't bad US dollars in 0:06:19.413 --> 0:06:24.613 terms of a work performance, bearing in mind they would 0:06:24.613 --> 0:06:26.693 have been paid their contract rates as well. 0:06:28.093 --> 0:06:32.493 For quite a handy couple of weeks. Yeah, look, I 0:06:32.533 --> 0:06:36.573 mean that aside, to be honest, that's that secondary to me. 0:06:37.653 --> 0:06:39.413 I think first of all, the point to make is 0:06:39.453 --> 0:06:42.973 New Zealand deserved to be there. They were the I 0:06:43.013 --> 0:06:48.253 think in the host country Pakistan. They won that part 0:06:48.253 --> 0:06:51.573 of the tournament, didn't they beating Pakistan and Bangladesh and 0:06:51.573 --> 0:06:55.573 then South Africa. I thought the second point would be 0:06:55.573 --> 0:06:59.253 the unavailable unavailability of Matt Henry. That was a real blow, 0:06:59.373 --> 0:06:59.653 wasn't it. 0:06:59.733 --> 0:07:00.253 Yes, it was. 0:07:01.293 --> 0:07:04.773 Yeah, not only our most consistent and accurate Seema, but 0:07:04.813 --> 0:07:09.573 he also does well against India and then putarticular against 0:07:09.653 --> 0:07:12.773 Roth Sharma. I think New Zealand probably missed him in 0:07:12.813 --> 0:07:15.853 the powerplay and at the desk, and I think probably 0:07:15.933 --> 0:07:19.253 at the moment he's our most effective death bowler. It's 0:07:19.253 --> 0:07:22.333 an area of our game that needs, I think some work. 0:07:22.693 --> 0:07:25.653 It's quite hard, isn't it really, Because as a seema wads, 0:07:26.293 --> 0:07:29.453 you practice all your days to be consistent. Don't you 0:07:29.573 --> 0:07:32.733 keep putting the ball, putting the ball, putting in the 0:07:32.773 --> 0:07:36.333 same place Brew chats like. And then you get to 0:07:36.373 --> 0:07:38.773 the end of the game and you need to have 0:07:39.413 --> 0:07:42.893 variation and you've got to go against that everything You've 0:07:42.973 --> 0:07:45.973 learned that consistency all the time in the powerplay. So 0:07:46.053 --> 0:07:48.653 we're not quite so good at that yet. Here's a 0:07:48.733 --> 0:07:53.493 question for you, Oh, did New Zealand need three seemas 0:07:53.493 --> 0:07:54.253 that do bay. 0:07:54.853 --> 0:07:58.333 No, probably not. But then they didn't have Matt Henry 0:07:58.733 --> 0:08:02.693 and they brought in Nathan Smith. He at the moment 0:08:02.773 --> 0:08:04.933 is still learning his game and so was a little 0:08:04.933 --> 0:08:08.173 bit expensive. In a couple of overs, they got away 0:08:08.413 --> 0:08:11.213 with just the two oers from him. You know, Jamison 0:08:11.293 --> 0:08:14.813 and O'Rourke did the business pretty well. And then they 0:08:14.893 --> 0:08:19.293 had the Forcemin bowlers and they were class, weren't they. 0:08:19.373 --> 0:08:23.493 I mean, Michael Bracewell probably doesn't get the plaudits he deserves. 0:08:23.533 --> 0:08:27.573 Mitchell Santra's been consistent right the way through. They had 0:08:28.013 --> 0:08:32.013 Ravendra who played his part at times, and also Phillips. 0:08:32.533 --> 0:08:34.653 And to me, you know, that's forty overs and I 0:08:34.653 --> 0:08:37.573 think they could have got forty overs, certainly thirty at 0:08:37.653 --> 0:08:39.653 least out of the whole four of them if they 0:08:39.653 --> 0:08:42.213 were going to bowl their seemas. And it's a pity 0:08:42.253 --> 0:08:47.453 that seemers like Matt Henry could have been ineffective on 0:08:47.853 --> 0:08:50.293 that pitch. He missed one innings, didn't he But he 0:08:50.333 --> 0:08:52.853 was still this top wiket taker ahead of spin bombing. 0:08:52.933 --> 0:08:59.813 Yeah. Yeah, I just thought maybe we needed to be 0:08:59.893 --> 0:09:03.093 a bit wee bit more flexible about that. Whether they 0:09:03.173 --> 0:09:07.613 misread the pitch slightly, I don't think they probably did 0:09:07.853 --> 0:09:12.173 obvious India and the position they were in they could 0:09:12.253 --> 0:09:16.813 select aside with four spinners, but seam wasn't productive on 0:09:16.853 --> 0:09:19.533 that pitch, was it. I mean India bowld twelve overs 0:09:19.853 --> 0:09:23.453 one for one hundred and six from their seemers and 0:09:23.533 --> 0:09:27.253 new Zea bold fourteen overs. Perhaps that's the two extra 0:09:27.293 --> 0:09:30.493 ones from Nathan Smith but that was one for one 0:09:30.533 --> 0:09:33.533 hundred and two. I guess the choice they had was 0:09:33.573 --> 0:09:36.533 between Duffy and Smith, and they went for the more 0:09:36.573 --> 0:09:41.933 batting and perhaps the better all round kind of offering 0:09:41.973 --> 0:09:47.093 that Smith gives the field as well movement catching and 0:09:47.133 --> 0:09:50.693 then his bowling and then the batting if required. I 0:09:50.773 --> 0:09:54.893 wondered whether they could play another batsman once. I wondered 0:09:54.893 --> 0:09:58.853 whether they could even throw, and maybe Chapman he is 0:09:58.853 --> 0:10:01.613 in the field all the time. Anyway, it would have 0:10:01.653 --> 0:10:04.613 been very different and flexible, and it's not like New Zealand. 0:10:04.613 --> 0:10:07.893 I've got to admit that. But might that have meant 0:10:08.693 --> 0:10:15.053 we were less timid during those middle thirty overs between 0:10:15.133 --> 0:10:18.533 the powerplay and the death overs. Would it have meant 0:10:18.573 --> 0:10:21.813 that we could have attacked a little more than we 0:10:22.013 --> 0:10:27.293 even tried. I'm not saying it was easy, but anyway, 0:10:27.413 --> 0:10:30.373 I mean the next question i'd ask you when they 0:10:30.453 --> 0:10:33.653 won the toss New Zealand, should they bowld or should 0:10:33.653 --> 0:10:34.173 they battered? 0:10:34.853 --> 0:10:35.053 Yeah? 0:10:35.093 --> 0:10:37.853 I think Sat made the point that he was quite 0:10:37.893 --> 0:10:39.573 happy if they got the runs on the board that 0:10:39.613 --> 0:10:42.133 they could defend it, and I suppose in the end 0:10:42.133 --> 0:10:45.453 result his point was that they were probably twenty to 0:10:45.493 --> 0:10:48.773 thirty light that they were unable to create the pressure 0:10:49.013 --> 0:10:51.893 and that was probably the timid nature because when it 0:10:51.933 --> 0:10:54.653 got to bracefol down the order, he was able to 0:10:54.653 --> 0:10:59.093 play with freedom. But you know, it leaves you fewer overs, 0:10:59.133 --> 0:11:01.573 doesn't it, because you're worried about, well, we're going to 0:11:01.573 --> 0:11:03.573 get into a tail in the moment. I mean Smith 0:11:03.613 --> 0:11:05.253 came in and faced a couple of balls I think 0:11:05.293 --> 0:11:09.013 towards the end, but that might have made the difference. 0:11:09.053 --> 0:11:11.653 But you know, those are the things that you can 0:11:11.693 --> 0:11:16.253 look at in hindsights. They made those decisions and you know, 0:11:16.773 --> 0:11:19.613 it got down to the last over, and that I 0:11:19.653 --> 0:11:23.493 think is where you know, New Zealand probably were just 0:11:23.533 --> 0:11:26.933 a little bit light in terms of runs, but it 0:11:26.973 --> 0:11:29.493 was hard to know what was a passcoor on that deck. 0:11:29.613 --> 0:11:34.173 That just highlights for me the adequacies of playing on 0:11:34.293 --> 0:11:38.013 that ground and the failure of the ICC to do 0:11:39.373 --> 0:11:42.933 the tournament and treat it with the integrity that it deserves. 0:11:43.573 --> 0:11:46.133 And there's been a lot of complaints from a lot 0:11:46.133 --> 0:11:49.813 of people. Certainly New Zealand didn't complain, but I know 0:11:49.933 --> 0:11:53.053 David Miller had something to say. And you know, when 0:11:53.093 --> 0:11:55.453 you look at the amount of flying, you know what 0:11:55.493 --> 0:11:58.413 it's like. You have to pack your bag, unpack your bag. 0:11:58.453 --> 0:12:00.573 You're in and out of airports. You know, there's a 0:12:00.573 --> 0:12:04.653 lot of wasted time, mental pain, isn't there. You're not 0:12:04.693 --> 0:12:08.773 sitting in a hotel with your feet out, drinking line 0:12:08.813 --> 0:12:11.773 and squash or Bacardian code. 0:12:11.493 --> 0:12:16.653 No, that's true. I think the David Miller point was 0:12:16.813 --> 0:12:21.893 they traveled at also very very early, the timing of 0:12:21.933 --> 0:12:25.893 the flights, and he was talking about after the semi final, 0:12:26.013 --> 0:12:29.973 wasn't it going down yes, or just prior to the 0:12:29.973 --> 0:12:34.133 semi maybe yeah, down to Dubai and then having to 0:12:34.173 --> 0:12:37.733 get flights back from Dubai when it wasn't required when 0:12:37.733 --> 0:12:40.093 they saw the result, and having to go back to 0:12:40.133 --> 0:12:42.853 the hall where they left from. And so he was 0:12:42.853 --> 0:12:45.733 talking about just a sheer. You're right about the time 0:12:45.733 --> 0:12:49.133 in airports, You're right about the waiting, You're right about 0:12:49.813 --> 0:12:53.613 the buses and the traffic. It does take a lot 0:12:53.653 --> 0:12:57.293 of time out, there's no doubt about that. And all 0:12:57.333 --> 0:12:59.493 the teams other than India would have done a lot 0:12:59.533 --> 0:13:02.493 of that, I can tell you, especially those who made 0:13:02.533 --> 0:13:06.493 it through to the end of the tournament. But anyway, look, 0:13:06.733 --> 0:13:09.813 I think batting was the right choice. I mean in 0:13:09.853 --> 0:13:14.053 that dead rubber in Dubai where they played against India. 0:13:14.573 --> 0:13:16.973 I think New Zealand noticed the ball turned more in 0:13:17.013 --> 0:13:19.213 the second innings they were batting there, weren't they. 0:13:21.013 --> 0:13:21.293 In that? 0:13:22.013 --> 0:13:24.853 And I think they got bold Indian out for about 0:13:24.853 --> 0:13:28.613 two fifty and then they were well and comfortably short 0:13:29.413 --> 0:13:33.653 chasing against those four spinners in Dubai the first game 0:13:33.693 --> 0:13:37.053 they played there. Secondly, I think Miller and Ravender I 0:13:37.093 --> 0:13:40.573 heard them both saying and something or other after the 0:13:40.613 --> 0:13:44.333 South African semi final and Lahore that the pitch helped 0:13:44.373 --> 0:13:48.693 spin more on the second innings even there. And I 0:13:48.733 --> 0:13:51.413 think also I saw on the telly if I was 0:13:51.453 --> 0:13:56.253 still awake in the final, I think they compared the 0:13:56.293 --> 0:13:58.693 amount of turn in the first innings to the second. 0:13:59.213 --> 0:14:02.093 Two degrees in the first I've written here, and three 0:14:02.173 --> 0:14:05.933 point four in the second innings. Now that doesn't mean, 0:14:06.373 --> 0:14:10.173 that doesn't mean wickets immediately. That's just an indicator, isn't it. 0:14:10.693 --> 0:14:15.813 But you can imagine cool Deep and Chuck Ravarti turning 0:14:15.853 --> 0:14:22.533 it as well, because I don't think the pitch turned dramatically. Brian, Yes, 0:14:22.653 --> 0:14:26.813 so it was a slow pitch. And don't forget if 0:14:26.853 --> 0:14:29.853 Judaisa was bowling it between ninety and one hundred k's 0:14:30.373 --> 0:14:34.613 the imagine if that was gripping as well. I think 0:14:34.613 --> 0:14:35.733 it was the right decision. 0:14:36.173 --> 0:14:38.453 Chuckravarti is an interesting biler because he was able to 0:14:38.453 --> 0:14:44.133 get a little bit more bounce with his leg spin style. 0:14:44.253 --> 0:14:47.733 But he's got such a variety, he's pretty accurate, and 0:14:47.773 --> 0:14:50.013 he does get the ball to drift in, doesn't he. 0:14:50.053 --> 0:14:50.533 That's when he. 0:14:50.533 --> 0:14:54.973 Got Will Young with LBW was just a lovely leg 0:14:55.013 --> 0:14:57.653 spinner and he did that quite often, which makes him 0:14:57.653 --> 0:15:00.213 a difficult man to hit because you got that, you know, 0:15:00.413 --> 0:15:02.653 a couple of centimeters between the inside edge of the 0:15:02.693 --> 0:15:05.573 bat and the front pad if you're playing straight along 0:15:05.693 --> 0:15:06.413 the pitch. 0:15:06.453 --> 0:15:09.373 And he was a man to stroke for them, and 0:15:09.413 --> 0:15:11.253 I think he's in and handled him pretty well. 0:15:11.653 --> 0:15:13.773 Yeah, they couldn't get him away, could they. It was 0:15:13.813 --> 0:15:17.573 really a case of defending. Yeah, I think you're right. 0:15:17.653 --> 0:15:21.133 I think if you place your leg early on as 0:15:21.173 --> 0:15:23.853 the ball's coming down, I think you get in a 0:15:23.853 --> 0:15:27.133 wee bit of trouble, which is I think what Young found. 0:15:27.613 --> 0:15:30.573 And at the last moment, any leg spinner, if you turner, 0:15:30.613 --> 0:15:33.533 it's going to come into you just the same as 0:15:33.613 --> 0:15:37.693 Bracewell will drift it away from a right hand a 0:15:37.773 --> 0:15:40.293 leg spinner brings it into you and then turns it, 0:15:40.333 --> 0:15:45.213 turns it back. But yeah, he's a real mystery, isn't he. Chacker? 0:15:45.533 --> 0:15:48.613 I mean, we had the telly and we could see 0:15:48.653 --> 0:15:54.213 the differences of delivery. Batsman can't see that. But what 0:15:54.293 --> 0:15:56.773 you do get is a chance to see the ball 0:15:56.853 --> 0:16:01.173 as it comes towards you which way it's turning. And 0:16:01.213 --> 0:16:04.653 I don't think New Zealand batsmen have quite got into 0:16:04.733 --> 0:16:09.293 that habit, not quite enough anyway now, because they were guessing, 0:16:09.653 --> 0:16:10.533 they didn't know. 0:16:10.853 --> 0:16:13.093 And I think they were wanting to dominate him and 0:16:13.293 --> 0:16:15.133 probably picked a little bit too early to try and 0:16:15.173 --> 0:16:17.333 dominate him. I mean they took nine off his first 0:16:17.373 --> 0:16:19.933 over and those sorts of things because you know that 0:16:20.013 --> 0:16:23.093 he is a danger and I thought that, you know, 0:16:23.733 --> 0:16:27.813 Revender handled him pretty well. I mean, talking about stars 0:16:28.173 --> 0:16:31.173 at the competition, Matt Henry was the star seam bowler 0:16:31.373 --> 0:16:35.813 with the most wickets for most runs. I mean, he 0:16:35.813 --> 0:16:39.533 he is becoming a remarkable player. What is it about 0:16:39.653 --> 0:16:41.893 the way he plays that you like it? He must 0:16:41.933 --> 0:16:45.053 see the ball very very early, and he loves to 0:16:45.093 --> 0:16:46.293 go down the pitch, doesn't he? 0:16:46.733 --> 0:16:49.213 I think he does. I think that's a little bit 0:16:49.253 --> 0:16:52.253 of use. What is he twenty five, twenty four, twenty five? 0:16:52.293 --> 0:16:56.453 I think he's But he just concentrates so hard you can. 0:16:56.893 --> 0:16:58.933 They gave us a close up, didn't they? In that 0:16:58.973 --> 0:17:02.773 the eyes at some point and you could just see 0:17:02.853 --> 0:17:07.253 the way he was watching so intently. He always goes 0:17:07.293 --> 0:17:12.013 forward into a ford press. He always looks to attack 0:17:12.133 --> 0:17:15.493 first and defend second, which is ideal. I think for 0:17:15.613 --> 0:17:18.813 the white ball game. It can make him look a 0:17:18.933 --> 0:17:22.413 little I don't know, a shot a ballman, if you 0:17:22.493 --> 0:17:25.013 know what I mean. Most of the times he's getting 0:17:25.053 --> 0:17:27.733 away with it, but it can make him a bit loose. 0:17:27.893 --> 0:17:30.573 He was dropped twice, wasn't he in that innings? And 0:17:30.653 --> 0:17:35.853 so he gives chances. But yeah, I mean he also 0:17:35.973 --> 0:17:40.653 makes a lot of runs. But yeah, he was fantastic 0:17:40.693 --> 0:17:44.333 and the player of the tournament. Yeah, I mean he 0:17:44.413 --> 0:17:48.293 obviously he obviously didn't pick the cool deep delivery, did 0:17:48.293 --> 0:17:52.733 he first ball a wrongan and clever bowling therefore, and 0:17:52.933 --> 0:17:54.853 was bowled off the pad ondly the book, but it 0:17:54.893 --> 0:17:57.053 beat him, no doubt about that, and then onto the 0:17:57.093 --> 0:18:02.813 stumps Williamson pushed right out to cool Deep as well. 0:18:03.253 --> 0:18:06.733 But you see risties get bounce wads, they get a 0:18:06.773 --> 0:18:10.173 wee bit more bounce. And you mentioned Jack Ravarti and 0:18:10.213 --> 0:18:13.653 then also Cooled Deep as well, and that actually bounced 0:18:13.653 --> 0:18:16.053 a bit more on Williamson, didn't it. And if he 0:18:16.093 --> 0:18:18.133 had have played it straight, it would have been he 0:18:18.173 --> 0:18:20.933 was looking to take a single and got a not 0:18:20.973 --> 0:18:24.373 a leading edge, so much more an outside of the bat, 0:18:24.893 --> 0:18:30.013 but not an edge, I didn't think. And yeah, yeah, 0:18:30.493 --> 0:18:34.093 And then Phillips, Phillips was bowled by a Roman from 0:18:34.173 --> 0:18:37.093 Chack Ravarti, which he thought was a legie. And so 0:18:37.253 --> 0:18:41.293 there are a number of players in that young Ravendra, 0:18:41.373 --> 0:18:44.693 Williams and Phillips in that top order who were all 0:18:45.573 --> 0:18:50.733 beaten by wrist spinners and not quite picking the ball. 0:18:52.133 --> 0:18:55.893 And then you had then you had Mitchell. He just 0:18:55.893 --> 0:18:58.333 got a weave at stranded, didn't he. He obviously took 0:18:58.333 --> 0:19:03.333 it upon himself. We've lost three wickets quickly. Someone's got 0:19:03.333 --> 0:19:05.853 to see this through. We cannot afford to lose another 0:19:06.813 --> 0:19:11.173 and that was his primary, yeah, primary concern. But it 0:19:11.213 --> 0:19:15.773 did cost it cost us in terms of runs, thirty 0:19:15.813 --> 0:19:19.253 two runs in the second group of ten thirty four 0:19:19.293 --> 0:19:23.173 and the third group of ten and then thirty seven. 0:19:23.293 --> 0:19:27.573 So between overs ten and forty, New Zealand goingly got 0:19:27.573 --> 0:19:32.133 one hundred and three runs, so that came at a cost. 0:19:32.653 --> 0:19:36.853 He did try, He tried to sweep, but it was 0:19:36.933 --> 0:19:39.733 just too difficult. And what Rohitt did well, I mean, 0:19:39.813 --> 0:19:43.293 imagine having four bowlers like that wads, it would be like. 0:19:43.813 --> 0:19:47.333 It reminded me of Clive Lloyd, you know, having Marshall 0:19:47.413 --> 0:19:52.613 holding Garner and Roberts. You know, yeah, well that's right. 0:19:52.653 --> 0:19:55.573 And Clive used to change them on the hour. He 0:19:55.653 --> 0:19:59.013 used to look at the clock, turn them over and 0:19:59.133 --> 0:20:04.373 change them over. And it must be wonderful to have 0:20:04.413 --> 0:20:07.973 two legies and then two left arm spinners. And he 0:20:08.053 --> 0:20:11.333 paired the mark didn't He Aksa went with cool Deep 0:20:11.773 --> 0:20:16.133 Jadasia went with Chuck Gravati and it was fast bowling. 0:20:16.133 --> 0:20:20.493 They were ninety to one hundred on the stumps and 0:20:20.533 --> 0:20:23.253 it didn't give you much option. You'd expect to get 0:20:23.293 --> 0:20:26.773 one loose ball and two overs, wouldn't you. You didn't though, 0:20:27.333 --> 0:20:30.773 they weren't coming up there at all. So a little 0:20:30.813 --> 0:20:35.653 bit bamboos led by the leggies. And then the left 0:20:35.773 --> 0:20:39.293 arm is bowling at that speed on the stumps. Even 0:20:39.333 --> 0:20:44.293 when lath And, one of our better sweepers, had to 0:20:44.293 --> 0:20:47.133 go at Jadasia, he missed it. And that was the 0:20:47.213 --> 0:20:52.693 danger with that and as lbw so very tough and 0:20:53.493 --> 0:20:56.773 really they weren't the only ones. And once you get 0:20:56.773 --> 0:20:59.733 that one hundred and sixty hundred and seventy hundred and 0:20:59.733 --> 0:21:02.573 eighty dot balls and Mitchell got drowned in him, didn't 0:21:02.613 --> 0:21:06.533 he It was going to be a subpar total. You 0:21:06.613 --> 0:21:10.693 always felt two fifty. New Zealand needed wickets early and 0:21:10.773 --> 0:21:13.613 so then and they got a little period of pressure 0:21:14.173 --> 0:21:19.133 when they applied it, didn't they. Yes, yeah, they got 0:21:19.173 --> 0:21:21.773 Gill out. Gill was another one who'd had trouble. He 0:21:21.813 --> 0:21:24.773 got thirty one or fifty now only hit one boundary 0:21:25.053 --> 0:21:28.213 and that was a six. So it wasn't as if 0:21:28.533 --> 0:21:30.653 New Zealand were alone and that I'd love to have 0:21:30.693 --> 0:21:37.973 seen the Indian batsman playing their spinners actually, so yeah, 0:21:38.413 --> 0:21:41.893 it was It was just a question did Mitchell did 0:21:41.973 --> 0:21:42.813 he wait too long? 0:21:44.133 --> 0:21:46.293 Well, you know he's caught the devil in the deep 0:21:46.293 --> 0:21:50.253 blue sea, really, isn't he? Because he is, You make 0:21:50.293 --> 0:21:53.253 a mistake, you get out and things fall apart. I 0:21:53.293 --> 0:21:55.653 think he had to play the way he did and 0:21:56.293 --> 0:21:59.253 you know, and the end results. He made a platform 0:21:59.333 --> 0:22:02.613 for bracefall, but at that stage they'd lost the momentum 0:22:02.933 --> 0:22:07.413 that they needed and losing Williamson early because he's a 0:22:07.453 --> 0:22:11.573 player can get the momentum game. I was interested. It's 0:22:11.573 --> 0:22:13.733 good to be able to sit and watch players like 0:22:13.813 --> 0:22:16.893 Williamson over a period of time. Do you, since I 0:22:16.893 --> 0:22:18.733 don't know whether you watched a lot of them during 0:22:19.093 --> 0:22:22.013 this series, do you sense though he's trying to broaden 0:22:22.093 --> 0:22:25.853 his game and widen how he plays. He's playing reverse 0:22:25.893 --> 0:22:29.373 sweeps a little more often now, he's got that wonderful 0:22:29.613 --> 0:22:32.813 inside out stroke over extra cover that he seems to 0:22:32.853 --> 0:22:36.853 have perfected, and his stroke range in short form cricket 0:22:37.013 --> 0:22:38.693 seems to be getting a little bit wider. 0:22:38.973 --> 0:22:43.013 Have you noticed that, yep, the slog sweep he also 0:22:43.093 --> 0:22:46.213 brought in against South Africa, didn't He and went over 0:22:46.413 --> 0:22:50.253 against or the left armor from Sada, a good bowler 0:22:50.813 --> 0:22:54.333 Maharaj and he slogged him for six as well over 0:22:54.373 --> 0:22:57.213 sort of that wide long on area and used that 0:22:57.293 --> 0:23:01.453 a couple of times. So he is certainly showing us 0:23:01.453 --> 0:23:04.573 a wider range. He's obviously been able to play them, 0:23:04.573 --> 0:23:06.533