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Speaker 2: You want to take another pair? Now? That's right, Treck,

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Speaker 2: it is out. The test is over, but this smoke

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Speaker 2: wow was a bet. It is out and here you guys.

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Speaker 2: Hello on the Front putback with you once again. The

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Speaker 2: Champions Trophy alluded to black Caps, but there was plenty

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Speaker 2: to celebrate from their performance in Pakistan, both at the

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Speaker 2: Champions Trophy and in the warm up series. An Odi

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Speaker 2: tween sweet for the White Fins despite injury issues in

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Speaker 2: the camp. This is the long period of preparation starting

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Speaker 2: to pay off for our player. Or is it too

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Speaker 2: soon to celebrate? Central District Skipper displays his class with

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Speaker 2: the third highest score in our domestic game. Why does

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Speaker 2: he not get more national recognition? And Hot news of press,

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Speaker 2: Michael Brocefoot is going to captain the black Caps in

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Speaker 2: the T twitty series against Pakistan starting this coming weekend.

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Speaker 2: Hello once more to Jeremy Coney clearly happening in the

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Speaker 2: cricket world all around the black Cats pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Jerry hid when you're up to date at least, I

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Speaker 3: don't know for me down here, but yep, I've I've

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Speaker 3: got a little show to do on Friday. We're going

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Speaker 3: to inflict some of the Pricton patrons again to the

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Speaker 3: music of me and my cousins. So that's that's quite

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Speaker 3: a sad thing to say, but never mind, we'll get

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Speaker 3: through it.

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Speaker 2: Goodness. So they that old down there.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, mate, they wheel them in. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I know quite a lot of them personally.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, Well, let's get down to pick them

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Speaker 2: for that on this coming Friday. But let's gelibrate a

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Speaker 2: champions trophy. And we'll hear Jerry's point of view in

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Speaker 2: just a moment. I think they're always going to be

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Speaker 2: when it became a real chance that we could win

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Speaker 2: the one million US dollars that was at stake for

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Speaker 2: second place, let alone the two million for first place.

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Speaker 2: A chance to discuss those high points in the moment. Firstly, though,

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Speaker 2: a final assessment from the skipper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's kind of a bit a sweet

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Speaker 4: at the end. You know, I think we came up

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Speaker 4: against the good side in the final, but yeah, I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, we challenged in there at times throughout this game,

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Speaker 4: which was which was pleasing. I think there was probably

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Speaker 4: And we came up against a very good team today.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're in the game for most of it,

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Speaker 4: this game. So yeah, I guess there's always adversity in

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we didn't really complain about anything.

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Speaker 2: Really shame they weren't able to go all the way.

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Speaker 2: Two million US would be good money, Jerry, but you know,

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Speaker 3: For quite a handy couple of weeks. Yeah, look, I

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Speaker 3: It's quite hard, isn't it really, Because as a seema wads,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Bracewell probably doesn't get the plaudits he deserves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just thought maybe we needed to be

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Speaker 2: That just highlights for me the adequacies of playing on

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Speaker 3: No, that's true. I think the David Miller point was

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed that, yep, the slog sweep he also

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Speaker 3: Correct, they played very well in this Champion's Trophy. And

431
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Speaker 3: don't forget the spinners. You've probably mentioned them already, But

432
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people, for example, think that

433
00:24:46,933 --> 00:24:49,693
Speaker 3: Brace was as a bits and pieces cricketer. Chap who

434
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Speaker 3: holds the batter bit and bowls a bit. You know,

435
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Speaker 3: he's much better than that accurate catcher Handy number seven,

436
00:24:58,413 --> 00:25:00,453
Speaker 3: large hands, gives the ball a good rip like his

437
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Speaker 3: old uncle John, and drifts it away and drops it

438
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Speaker 3: and brings it back. I think he balances the side

439
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Speaker 3: out really well. Antona, his skills slightly different. He was

440
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Speaker 3: looking for wickets, wasn't he. He wants good flight and

441
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Speaker 3: to get people out with you know, changes of pace

442
00:25:19,093 --> 00:25:24,573
Speaker 3: and turn. Very different approach than Judasia and Actua Patel. Revendra.

443
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Speaker 3: I mean, if I think of Ravendra, he came into

444
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Speaker 3: the New Zealand side at what was he seventeen eighteen

445
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Speaker 3: or whatever, twenty and bold left arm, orthodox, didn't he

446
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Speaker 3: but he was always going to be a better batsman

447
00:25:37,733 --> 00:25:40,813
Speaker 3: and that's they were just easing him in at that stage.

448
00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:43,293
Speaker 3: He's a bit like Judasia in the sense he's quick

449
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Speaker 3: through the air and New Zealand has got to keep

450
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Speaker 3: on bowling him. It's good to have that difference, so

451
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Speaker 3: I think yep. So I thought the New Zealanders were

452
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Speaker 3: very effective. Their spinners could pull their opposition back a

453
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Speaker 3: little bit, and they did for a while once Rowat

454
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Speaker 3: Shama was stumped. They made it quite awkward and they

455
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Speaker 3: looked a bit under pressure the Indians for about sort

456
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Speaker 3: of no maybe five to ten overs. Unfortunately, New Zealand

457
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Speaker 3: the half chances they got, they didn't have quite the

458
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Speaker 3: best day in the field, but as you say, those

459
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Speaker 3: things can happen. They batted well, they got good runs,

460
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Speaker 3: they defended with spin in the middle and generally were

461
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Speaker 3: very good in the field.

462
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Speaker 2: Well, Michael Braceley was going to get a chance to

463
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Speaker 2: bother it more because he's been named captain of the

464
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Speaker 2: T twenty squad to play against Pakistan five of those

465
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Speaker 2: coming up, and of course they're playing Odie Iss as well.

466
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Speaker 2: The reason of course that Satna Chapman and I'm just

467
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Speaker 2: trying to think of the other ones are Ferguson. There's

468
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Speaker 2: four of anyway not not playing this series. Brace was

469
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Speaker 2: the captain, Finnellen, Mark Chapman, Jacob Duffy, Zach Fuchs comes

470
00:27:02,293 --> 00:27:04,453
Speaker 2: back in for a couple of games. Mitch Hater keeper

471
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Speaker 2: Matt Henry will play a couple of games. Jamison Mitchell

472
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Speaker 2: nich o'rour will play three games. He and Jamison will

473
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Speaker 2: play three games. Tim Robinson back at the top of

474
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Speaker 2: the order. That's going to be interesting with Finn Allen

475
00:27:18,213 --> 00:27:22,253
Speaker 2: and the likes Rich and Rutchian Ravender is not there.

476
00:27:22,293 --> 00:27:25,373
Speaker 2: Of course, Ben Sears good to see him back, and

477
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Speaker 2: Ish Sodian. You know, we sort of forget about the

478
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Speaker 2: ben Sears when we talk about paste bowlers. They've got Duffy,

479
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Speaker 2: but you know, now that he's got over his injury, Sears,

480
00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:38,133
Speaker 2: you know, the chances of seeing a really good top

481
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Speaker 2: line paste bowling attack in action that is encouraging.

482
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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. Yeah, don't forget we lost Ferguson,

483
00:27:44,813 --> 00:27:47,213
Speaker 3: didn't we? In the in the Champions Trophy and sears.

484
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Speaker 3: So that sounds to me. What's the first time I've

485
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Speaker 3: kind of heard you name those with fin Allen and

486
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Speaker 3: Robinson open. Where does Cipher fit three? Perhaps, well he's

487
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Speaker 3: been or Mark Chapman. Mark Chapman was number three against

488
00:28:01,053 --> 00:28:04,693
Speaker 3: Sri Lanka, wasn't he? Mitchell's there you mentioned, so he'd

489
00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:08,493
Speaker 3: before I heard the word the name nism at some point.

490
00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:12,453
Speaker 3: So he'll be, I guess, drifting around, so will Bracewall.

491
00:28:12,893 --> 00:28:15,853
Speaker 2: They've got Mitch Hayes as well, and it's been a

492
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Speaker 2: little bit further down the order and some of the

493
00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:19,973
Speaker 2: sides that he's been playing for. But it's good to

494
00:28:19,973 --> 00:28:22,493
Speaker 2: see him back in our Ta twitty squad and that's

495
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Speaker 2: going to be something of while I've got the players out.

496
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Speaker 3: So the spinners of Bracewell and Sodi is that is? That?

497
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Speaker 3: Was that about right?

498
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Speaker 2: That's the ones that I can see there. Zach Fuchs

499
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Speaker 2: is a medium pace, yeah, spinners.

500
00:28:40,733 --> 00:28:44,093
Speaker 3: And plenty of seamers which they're going to rotate obviously, yep.

501
00:28:44,253 --> 00:28:47,773
Speaker 2: Five games to be played. Okay, then starting on a.

502
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Speaker 1: Sunday, Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.

503
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Speaker 2: Well, the New Zealand women's team. The White Fins have

504
00:28:57,733 --> 00:29:00,933
Speaker 2: had a pretty encouraging series against Sri Lanka and welcome

505
00:29:00,933 --> 00:29:05,093
Speaker 2: back to the White Fins. Hope that Georgia Plummer serious injury.

506
00:29:05,093 --> 00:29:08,493
Speaker 2: Following the World to Twitty, Plumber continued to development the

507
00:29:08,573 --> 00:29:12,853
Speaker 2: teching opener in a side that had numerous injury issues

508
00:29:12,853 --> 00:29:15,973
Speaker 2: and without Divine and Kerr at the helm, the first

509
00:29:15,973 --> 00:29:20,493
Speaker 2: International Century kept off for a good series. Georgia Plumouth, Yeah, definitely.

510
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Speaker 6: I think across the series we've obviously saying Maddie score

511
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Speaker 6: one hundred and have some good partnerships in that game

512
00:29:26,213 --> 00:29:28,253
Speaker 6: as well as today's game, and I think a lot

513
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Speaker 6: of what our work on TV being for fifty over

514
00:29:30,413 --> 00:29:32,973
Speaker 6: cricket has been a lot of partnerships and time in

515
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Speaker 6: the medal. So yeah, I guess it's pretty satisfying to

516
00:29:35,893 --> 00:29:38,613
Speaker 6: sort of do that and coming off not much cricket

517
00:29:38,613 --> 00:29:40,773
Speaker 6: for me, I guess that's probably the most satisfying thing.

518
00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:44,253
Speaker 2: They've been frustrations along the way, injury and some low

519
00:29:44,293 --> 00:29:46,653
Speaker 2: scores must have been certisfying reward.

520
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Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty incredible and obviously grateful to all the people

521
00:29:51,013 --> 00:29:52,853
Speaker 6: that have helped me get to sort of this point

522
00:29:52,893 --> 00:29:55,293
Speaker 6: and one of the hours with me over the last

523
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Speaker 6: couple of years. And I guess being out there with

524
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Speaker 6: Susi as well at the start and having that partnership

525
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Speaker 6: at the startup and that sort of sent me in

526
00:30:02,333 --> 00:30:04,853
Speaker 6: a more of a calm state out there. And yeah,

527
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Speaker 6: I guess being able to see her record for fifties

528
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Speaker 6: and hundred is pretty incredible sort of be out there

529
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Speaker 6: with a legend like that and sort of doing that.

530
00:30:12,013 --> 00:30:14,893
Speaker 6: And I guess being out there when the next wicket

531
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Speaker 6: with Emma McCloud is obviously really young and new into

532
00:30:17,573 --> 00:30:19,533
Speaker 6: the team and sort of had that fresh view. I

533
00:30:19,533 --> 00:30:21,773
Speaker 6: think that sort of shows where our team is at

534
00:30:21,813 --> 00:30:23,653
Speaker 6: at the moment, and I think that's the great balance

535
00:30:23,693 --> 00:30:24,173
Speaker 6: that we've got.

536
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Speaker 1: At the moment.

537
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Speaker 2: Would have given you time to work on your game

538
00:30:27,253 --> 00:30:28,773
Speaker 2: during the injury break, That's true.

539
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Speaker 6: We'll focus on a lot over the past couple of

540
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Speaker 6: months while being injured about rotating strike and heading straight.

541
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Speaker 6: So that's probably been my biggest work on And so yeah,

542
00:30:37,853 --> 00:30:39,493
Speaker 6: for that to come out there and all that effort

543
00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:42,413
Speaker 6: that I've been putting in the last few months while

544
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Speaker 6: not being able to play cricket and see it out

545
00:30:44,213 --> 00:30:46,493
Speaker 6: there on the park, I guess was probably the most pleasant.

546
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Speaker 3: Thanks.

547
00:30:47,253 --> 00:30:50,533
Speaker 2: So one hundred and thirty eight days without competitive cricket.

548
00:30:50,893 --> 00:30:52,853
Speaker 6: Crazy to think that it's been about four or five

549
00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:55,253
Speaker 6: months since our last T twenty games and a lot

550
00:30:55,293 --> 00:30:57,373
Speaker 6: of the girls have been playing in a supersmashion in

551
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Speaker 6: the domestic scene, and I think being able to see

552
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Speaker 6: some of the scores that are being put up and

553
00:31:01,533 --> 00:31:03,573
Speaker 6: sort of the aggression that we're wanting to have as

554
00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:05,813
Speaker 6: a white fans team sort of be replicated in the

555
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Speaker 6: domestic scene. I think it's going to be pretty exciting

556
00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:10,493
Speaker 6: to see what our team sort of puts out on

557
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:13,093
Speaker 6: the park and when o Sri Lanka. Obviously ham Tamara

558
00:31:13,173 --> 00:31:14,933
Speaker 6: at the top is one of the best T twenty

559
00:31:14,933 --> 00:31:16,733
Speaker 6: players in the world, so I think it's going to

560
00:31:16,773 --> 00:31:19,453
Speaker 6: be a really good matches that were going to be

561
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Speaker 6: coming up against. And yeah, excited to see how this

562
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Speaker 6: team goes after a couple of good ones and the

563
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Speaker 6: fifty over stuff as well.

564
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Speaker 2: Not a lot you can read into it at the

565
00:31:28,013 --> 00:31:31,093
Speaker 2: stage against the Sri Lanka. They've got to Pakistan coming

566
00:31:31,133 --> 00:31:33,853
Speaker 2: as well, but you look at their injury list, I

567
00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:35,773
Speaker 2: could go through a whole list. I think there's about

568
00:31:36,093 --> 00:31:39,413
Speaker 2: nine who have got injuries of their frontline players. So

569
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Speaker 2: more than anything there else, they're giving other players an

570
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Speaker 2: opportunity and I think some quality young players. I've watched

571
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Speaker 2: the women's game against the Sri Lanka and I've seen

572
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Speaker 2: a good attacking attitude about their play and seeing the

573
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Speaker 2: skills on show of some of the new players who've

574
00:31:56,693 --> 00:31:59,453
Speaker 2: worked their way through the Halliburton Johnson and Dream eleven

575
00:31:59,533 --> 00:32:02,653
Speaker 2: Super Smash competition. So, you know, interesting to see how

576
00:32:02,773 --> 00:32:07,573
Speaker 2: we'll go in the T twenty series against Sri Lanka

577
00:32:07,613 --> 00:32:10,613
Speaker 2: because they're basically the world champions at the moment of

578
00:32:10,773 --> 00:32:13,653
Speaker 2: T twenty. And then of course they've got Pakistan coming

579
00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:15,573
Speaker 2: and you may well see some of those because you'll

580
00:32:15,573 --> 00:32:17,933
Speaker 2: be at games somewhere around your.

581
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Speaker 3: Hill somewhere somewhere might be picked and wads ground grounds

582
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Speaker 3: a bit small, exactly good to see some new names.

583
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Speaker 3: I listened to the third match at Nelson Briilling left

584
00:32:41,333 --> 00:32:45,173
Speaker 3: armor from Auckland. That's yeah, that's that's nice to see.

585
00:32:45,253 --> 00:32:48,853
Speaker 3: She bowls both sides of the wicket, which is excellent.

586
00:32:49,053 --> 00:32:50,493
Speaker 3: She got a couple of you know, a couple of

587
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Speaker 3: wickets in the second game. I think so that's nice

588
00:32:54,893 --> 00:32:59,573
Speaker 3: to see Polly English the keeper. It looks quite attacking.

589
00:33:00,653 --> 00:33:02,773
Speaker 3: She got a thirty i think in the second match

590
00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:05,213
Speaker 3: and are not out in the second not many didn't

591
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Speaker 3: get a chance. And then there's a number three. The

592
00:33:09,573 --> 00:33:15,173
Speaker 3: new girl from the CD is Emma McLeod someone like that. Yeah,

593
00:33:15,253 --> 00:33:18,573
Speaker 3: so she's a right hand bat. Hasn't made quite so

594
00:33:18,653 --> 00:33:21,413
Speaker 3: many yet, but good to see those new names in there.

595
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:29,253
Speaker 3: It pushes people like is he Grace? She? Is he Gays? Sorry?

596
00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:33,853
Speaker 3: Is he Gays? Is she is she going to keep

597
00:33:34,013 --> 00:33:36,253
Speaker 3: now or does she have to make some changes?

598
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,173
Speaker 2: She's one of those injured now. She's just added to

599
00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:42,213
Speaker 2: the injury list that has just been released by New

600
00:33:42,333 --> 00:33:47,933
Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket that she is not able to play. Gays

601
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Speaker 2: James is another one who's just new to the side yet,

602
00:33:52,133 --> 00:33:55,053
Speaker 2: and the Jets and along and of course not having

603
00:33:55,133 --> 00:34:00,613
Speaker 2: the other players that they have had, so you know

604
00:34:01,253 --> 00:34:05,213
Speaker 2: it is giving them some opportunities and that's that's going

605
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:06,333
Speaker 2: to be encouraging for them.

606
00:34:06,693 --> 00:34:08,933
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the od the eyes have finished, so it's

607
00:34:08,933 --> 00:34:12,813
Speaker 3: t twenty time premature really to, as you say, claim

608
00:34:12,893 --> 00:34:15,893
Speaker 3: too much about the New Zealand side. But Sri Lanka

609
00:34:15,973 --> 00:34:19,053
Speaker 3: didn't they beat New Zealand last time they were here?

610
00:34:19,373 --> 00:34:21,973
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well.

611
00:34:21,933 --> 00:34:25,493
Speaker 3: You know that's good that New Zealander pushed ahead, keep pushing,

612
00:34:25,573 --> 00:34:29,813
Speaker 3: keep the standards up athleticism and who knows they've got

613
00:34:29,853 --> 00:34:31,373
Speaker 3: the Assies coming up at some stage?

614
00:34:31,413 --> 00:34:35,573
Speaker 2: Haven't they got some email traffic? Jerry? But we'll have

615
00:34:35,613 --> 00:34:36,933
Speaker 2: a look at those next week. You just want have

616
00:34:36,933 --> 00:34:40,013
Speaker 2: a quick word about the Plunket shield which is now

617
00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:44,533
Speaker 2: through five rounds. Northern Districts at the top, Wellington second,

618
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Speaker 2: Canterbury third. Wellington got up over Otago to get him

619
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Speaker 2: the second place, but Central Districts is a side that

620
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Speaker 2: interests me because I just still have concerns as to

621
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Speaker 2: why Tom Bruce doesn't feature more often in Black Caps contention.

622
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Speaker 2: Here's a man who scored a three hundred and forty five.

623
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Speaker 2: Only one player in New Zealand first class cricket, when

624
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:10,813
Speaker 2: you think about the great players we've had, has beaten

625
00:35:10,973 --> 00:35:16,173
Speaker 2: that score, Bert Suckliffe twice. Totally players. Bruce is a

626
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Speaker 2: right handed a bit more aggressive than BT Suckliffe might

627
00:35:18,573 --> 00:35:23,173
Speaker 2: have been, but he averages in first class cricket forty eight.

628
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Speaker 2: We would have died for players to average forty eight

629
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Speaker 2: to get into the Test team in times gone past?

630
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Speaker 2: How does a guy who averages forty eight not get

631
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Speaker 2: considered for New Zealand sides anywhere?

632
00:35:36,693 --> 00:35:40,213
Speaker 3: Well? Well he has, hasn't he. He's played ten twenties,

633
00:35:41,293 --> 00:35:44,773
Speaker 3: he's played. I guess the first point you would say

634
00:35:44,973 --> 00:35:47,693
Speaker 3: is that it's just unfortunate timing, isn't it? That it

635
00:35:47,733 --> 00:35:53,853
Speaker 3: hasn't been kind to someone like Tom Bruce. I saw him.

636
00:35:54,573 --> 00:35:58,253
Speaker 3: He led the what CD at the base and didn't he?

637
00:35:59,173 --> 00:36:02,293
Speaker 3: They won the Super Smash there they played Canterbury and

638
00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:06,613
Speaker 3: won that. He has played in the Bangladesh League for

639
00:36:06,653 --> 00:36:09,613
Speaker 3: the Chatter Graham, hasn't he? And he has played in

640
00:36:09,693 --> 00:36:14,733
Speaker 3: England for both short form and longer form cricket as well.

641
00:36:15,893 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 3: So he's a middle order player. He has captain the

642
00:36:19,373 --> 00:36:25,373
Speaker 3: New Zealand A side, so he's there. And but as

643
00:36:25,413 --> 00:36:28,093
Speaker 3: you're saying, would you have who does he replace Wads?

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Speaker 3: He's a middle order player.

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Speaker 2: Well that is the same issue that they have when

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Speaker 2: they leave Devon Conway out of the New Zealand side.

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Speaker 2: You get in by form, don't you by performance? And

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Speaker 2: therefore you make your way. Here's a man who gets

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Speaker 2: the top run scorer or close to the top run scorer.

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Speaker 2: In the last two or three seasons. He scores centuries regularly.

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe that he doesn't even come into

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Speaker 2: even into squads, you know. I mean, I've got to

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Speaker 2: not the I squad going to be coming out very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Will he feature in that? I very much doubt it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you pick players on form and that you know,

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Speaker 2: that's basically what happened. Devin Conway is out because the

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Speaker 2: others were scoring and he had to be parachuted out

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Speaker 2: the back, didn't.

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Speaker 3: The Hey yep, and I'm sure that'll be something to

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Speaker 3: do with one of the emails that where was where

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Speaker 3: was Conway? And he did start well And that's quite

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Speaker 3: good though for a side. If you keep pushing and

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Speaker 3: pushing and you get internal you know, competition between players

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Speaker 3: and you're having to push yourself all the time to play.

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Speaker 3: I think that lifts everybody training has become more you know,

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Speaker 3: they're much more competitive. You want to have a good

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Speaker 3: showing at the nets because you're wanting to impress people

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Speaker 3: and so on. So anyway, yep, he's got to beat

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Speaker 3: Mitchell who's averaging you know, he's thirty four five hundred's

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Speaker 3: and a few fifties, and he'd be averaging over forty

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Speaker 3: in test cricket Revender. I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 3: replace Revendrew's twenty five. And then you've got Blundle at

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Speaker 3: six who's averaging thirty four as a keeper and got

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Speaker 3: five hundreds. It's not it's not an easy place to

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Speaker 3: break in.

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Speaker 2: I suppose all selections are a difficult time and more

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Speaker 2: players deserve to be considered. Then I just think that

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Speaker 2: the Bruce one is quite an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: In mind.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens when the ODI team is named. Jerry,

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Speaker 2: you can go put your feed up if you so wish,

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Speaker 2: get ready for the Pakistan series. Looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 2: the players playing back home, and it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see what kind of ODI side they do pick after

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Speaker 2: having got onto the final the Champions Trophy. So you know,

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff ahead for the next month or so.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's right. Words And of course music is Music's

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Speaker 3: the next thing for me. I've got to say, it's uh,

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Speaker 3: we don't play the Love Train, which I think was

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Speaker 3: quite high in your top hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's in my top five.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was always up. There wasn't they the o

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Speaker 3: J I'll remember forget you standing standing in your doorway

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Speaker 3: with most of your families building out, gonna sail on

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Speaker 3: the love train.

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Speaker 2: I've annoyed quite a lot of people, actually.

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Speaker 3: People of the world.

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Speaker 2: All I want to know. You don't sing, do you?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, not what the microphone turned on?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's good. All right, I'm the way down to

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Speaker 2: pick them to uh to catch a series of you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll give you a back row seat. All right, Friday,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to take care of summer.

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