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Speaker 1: Yet another corridor has expressed concern over temporary backyard pools.

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Speaker 1: You know the ones I'm talking about. They've got a

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Speaker 1: frame you've got to put up, sit above the ground,

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Speaker 1: maybe one point two meters or something like that, and

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Speaker 1: you fill them up with water. Earlier this year, a

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Speaker 1: coroner said they should be banned, and now another has

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Speaker 1: said they're a grave hazard after the drowning of a

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Speaker 1: twenty month old girl in Napier. Gavin Walker is the

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Speaker 1: acting CEO at Water Safety New Zealand and with us

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Speaker 1: Hey Gavin.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Dan, how are you here?

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Speaker 1: I'm well think you do you think we need to

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Speaker 1: ban them?

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Speaker 2: Look Outamaia's test is a reminder that unfenced pools left

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Speaker 2: towards water in people's backyard can be tempresent a real change,

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Speaker 2: a challenge to young kids. And we we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about the small ones. There's small paddling pools that we've

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Speaker 2: we've all had. You can easily grab those out, fill

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Speaker 2: them up, you spend time with your kids and you

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Speaker 2: turn them upside down and give them at the end

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Speaker 2: and you just raised. We're not talking about about the

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Speaker 2: ones that are much bigger, kind of one point two

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Speaker 2: meters or greater because kids can't climb young kids can't

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Speaker 2: climb into that, so they can't get into them supervised.

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Speaker 2: But there's been a real proliferation of cheaper options between

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Speaker 2: those two. Some of them take half a day to fill.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of three point six meters across, and they're

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Speaker 2: way steep, and we don't think the law in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand says if you buy one of these things for

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Speaker 2: a couple of hundred dollars from wherever, from team or

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Speaker 2: of the warehouse or others, it says you should get

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Speaker 2: in touch with the council and put a compliant full

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Speaker 2: fence in place because the risk is the same as

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Speaker 2: a permanent pul. But we just don't think anybody is

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Speaker 2: doing that. And so as we see more and more

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Speaker 2: of these things in people's backyards, we're already starting to

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Speaker 2: see increasing deaths of young children. And we've learnt these

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Speaker 2: hard lessons before. In New Zealand, we made the bold

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Speaker 2: call in the eighties offench our swimming pools and we

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Speaker 2: basically eliminated kids drowning in our backyard pools, and we're

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Speaker 2: seeing that coming back again.

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Speaker 1: So why are we seeing so many of these things?

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Speaker 1: Is it simply because they are so much cheaper now

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Speaker 1: that you've got the tea moves and so on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that when the law was developed around fencing of

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Speaker 2: swimming pools, the kind of plaster portable pool product didn't exist.

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Speaker 2: And it's really only over the last ten years, really

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Speaker 2: the last five years, that this stuff's become really prevalent

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Speaker 2: and on the market. And I get it. We've got

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Speaker 2: young kids. Parent and grandparents are buying these things for

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Speaker 2: the best intentions, but if you leave them unfenced in

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Speaker 2: your backyard, something can easily happen for young children. And

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Speaker 2: we're just asking people to think. We're certainly asking government

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Speaker 2: to go why do we have to have these things

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Speaker 2: available in New Zealand. There's lots of other options bigger pools,

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Speaker 2: smaller pools, slip and slides, take your kids to the

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Speaker 2: beach or river. And in the absence of that, we're

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Speaker 2: asking parents, grandparents and others to think through these purchases. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you don't think you can fence them, don't buy them.

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Speaker 1: Gavin, thank you, it's some sage advice appreciator. Gavin Walker,

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Speaker 1: acting CEO at Water Safety New Zealand.

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