WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 06 July 2025 0:00:06.815 --> 0:00:10.375 You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf 0:00:10.415 --> 0:00:14.495 Camp from US. Talks edby viewing up the house, sorting 0:00:14.575 --> 0:00:17.815 the garden, asked Pete for ahead The Resident Builder with 0:00:17.935 --> 0:00:21.135 Peter wolf Camp called eight hundred eighty ten eighty used 0:00:21.175 --> 0:00:21.855 talks edb. 0:00:28.375 --> 0:00:34.215 The house sizzle even when it's dug, even when the 0:00:34.255 --> 0:00:39.295 grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when a 0:00:39.375 --> 0:00:40.015 dog is. 0:00:40.135 --> 0:00:41.255 Too old to barn. 0:00:42.855 --> 0:00:45.855 And when you're sitting at the table trying not to 0:00:46.015 --> 0:00:54.135 stove house scissor even when we are ben ball, even 0:00:54.175 --> 0:01:10.815 when you're therellone houses a home, even when these ghost 0:01:12.015 --> 0:01:13.295 even when you got. 0:01:13.135 --> 0:01:18.095 Around from the world you love your most screamed those 0:01:18.215 --> 0:01:23.575 broken paints, feeling from the wood locals bastball when they're 0:01:23.575 --> 0:01:24.855 going to leave in the neighbor. 0:01:25.135 --> 0:01:33.015 The house is a home, even when wilband home, even 0:01:33.135 --> 0:01:39.575 when you're in there alone, it's. 0:01:42.855 --> 0:01:43.175 A home. 0:02:26.815 --> 0:02:30.975 A hang on, no, no, no, heaven. How about that? Sorry, folks, 0:02:31.055 --> 0:02:36.695 let me start again. My mistake radio. Actually, yeah, there 0:02:36.735 --> 0:02:40.695 we go, rightio. Sorry about that technical mistake on my part. 0:02:40.775 --> 0:02:43.735 The fader was down there you go. Hey, good morning, 0:02:43.775 --> 0:02:45.895 welcome along to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp. 0:02:45.935 --> 0:02:49.055 This is the resident builder on Sunday, and we are 0:02:49.095 --> 0:02:53.295 into a couple of hours of open line conversation about 0:02:53.335 --> 0:02:56.535 all things building and construction. So if you've got some 0:02:56.655 --> 0:03:01.335 questions of a building nature, you should call me right now. Inevitably, 0:03:01.775 --> 0:03:03.815 as I mentioned a few times, we do get a 0:03:03.855 --> 0:03:07.255 little bit busy later on the show and don't always 0:03:07.335 --> 0:03:09.535 get to all of the callers. So if you've got 0:03:09.575 --> 0:03:12.015 a question and you're up and about, maybe you've you've 0:03:12.095 --> 0:03:14.055 already had the toast and the tea and that sort 0:03:14.055 --> 0:03:16.695 of thing, or perhaps you just tucked up still in bed. 0:03:16.735 --> 0:03:19.215 It is kind of the middle of winter, doesn't It 0:03:19.255 --> 0:03:22.935 feels reasonably sort of settled in this part of the 0:03:22.935 --> 0:03:24.735 country at the moment. But if you're up at about 0:03:25.095 --> 0:03:26.655 and you're listening to the show and you think, yee, 0:03:26.695 --> 0:03:29.735 I wish I knew kind of what to do about. 0:03:29.815 --> 0:03:32.815 You know, someone who's text me before when it rains 0:03:33.615 --> 0:03:35.735 a little area just by the back door that gets 0:03:35.735 --> 0:03:38.735 wet right the back door's undercover, so I suspect that 0:03:38.815 --> 0:03:41.855 the moisture is coming up through the slab. What do 0:03:41.935 --> 0:03:45.295 I do about that? Or another email that I got 0:03:45.375 --> 0:03:48.655 during the course of the week, it was someone who's going, hey, look, 0:03:49.415 --> 0:03:51.735 I was told that I didn't need a building consent 0:03:51.775 --> 0:03:54.975 for this particular type of work. Turns out I did. 0:03:55.135 --> 0:03:56.295 What can I do about it? 0:03:56.335 --> 0:03:56.575 Now? 0:03:57.335 --> 0:04:00.255 I have to say on that matter, it's been sort 0:04:00.295 --> 0:04:02.495 of a project of mine for the last little while 0:04:02.975 --> 0:04:08.295 to try and get a building consent that was issued 0:04:08.335 --> 0:04:13.175 in two thousand and two. The work was completed, the 0:04:13.215 --> 0:04:16.175 person lived in the house. They went for a final 0:04:16.215 --> 0:04:21.775 inspection in two thousand and twelve found that there was 0:04:21.775 --> 0:04:26.775 some work that was not properly done, that required more work, 0:04:26.815 --> 0:04:30.415 which required a new building consent that got done, That 0:04:30.495 --> 0:04:35.615 consent got signed off. Excuse me, my client got me 0:04:35.695 --> 0:04:38.135 to do some work on that house almost ten years ago, 0:04:39.295 --> 0:04:41.615 which got a building consent. Well, had a building consent 0:04:41.815 --> 0:04:44.895 and got signed off and a CCC was issued. But 0:04:44.935 --> 0:04:46.855 then a couple of years ago it was found that, hey, 0:04:47.095 --> 0:04:50.815 actually that other earlier consent never got signed off. We've 0:04:50.815 --> 0:04:53.175 got to get that signed off. I can assure you 0:04:53.255 --> 0:04:56.175 that has been quite the process, and it wasn't just 0:04:56.215 --> 0:04:58.535 a sort of desktop review type thing. Oh well, that 0:04:58.575 --> 0:05:02.095 should have got signed off. There was inspections, there's been meetings, 0:05:02.135 --> 0:05:06.215 there's been the engagement of building surveys to do a 0:05:06.655 --> 0:05:11.295 essentially a performance review of the exterior cladding, to satisfy 0:05:11.375 --> 0:05:14.815 council that it's going to it's going to perform, and 0:05:14.855 --> 0:05:18.575 that they can feel comfortable about issuing a CCC for 0:05:18.655 --> 0:05:22.375 that very early consent, which means that when someone looks 0:05:22.375 --> 0:05:26.535 at the limb the land Information Memorandum of the property, 0:05:26.815 --> 0:05:30.295 they'll see that every consent that was issued, every building 0:05:30.375 --> 0:05:33.895 consent that was issued, has in fact been resolved signed 0:05:33.895 --> 0:05:36.895 off with a CCC. These things take a bit of time, 0:05:36.935 --> 0:05:39.335 so that that text that came through with that email 0:05:39.335 --> 0:05:42.735 that came through about oh gosh, we've done the shower 0:05:42.775 --> 0:05:44.415 and now realize that we should have had a building 0:05:44.415 --> 0:05:47.335 consent might actually be quite a process sway. We'll get 0:05:47.335 --> 0:05:49.975 into that a little bit later on radio. What's going 0:05:49.975 --> 0:05:52.015 on at your place? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten 0:05:52.175 --> 0:05:55.615 eighty is the number to call if you've got a 0:05:55.655 --> 0:05:58.815 building question. It could be about, you know, the actual 0:05:58.855 --> 0:06:03.495 practicalities of getting something constructed. It might be around the 0:06:03.615 --> 0:06:08.295 rules and regulations that govern what we build, how we build, 0:06:08.335 --> 0:06:12.175 and how we get it to be compliant. And there's 0:06:12.655 --> 0:06:17.335 some pretty well pretty significant changes. Something that's been talked 0:06:17.335 --> 0:06:19.975 about We've talked about it on the show a number 0:06:19.975 --> 0:06:23.415 of times over the last couple of months. Probably actually 0:06:23.495 --> 0:06:26.895 would go back almost a year. Cast your mind back 0:06:27.055 --> 0:06:30.015 to the arrival I guess of a new government and 0:06:30.095 --> 0:06:33.335 a new Minister for Construction and Building. That is the 0:06:33.375 --> 0:06:36.495 honorable Chris Pink, who's been a guest on this show 0:06:36.495 --> 0:06:38.295 a couple of times, came into the studio a few 0:06:38.335 --> 0:06:41.015 months ago. One of the things that was floated very 0:06:41.055 --> 0:06:45.255 early on is, hey, look I've been told or feedback 0:06:45.295 --> 0:06:48.655 from the industry, is that the recent changes to H 0:06:48.815 --> 0:06:51.255 one of the Building Code, which is what sets the 0:06:51.655 --> 0:06:54.495 sort of energy performance or the insulation standards for the 0:06:54.495 --> 0:07:01.095 Building Code, which had just only recently been taken up 0:07:01.095 --> 0:07:03.935 a couple of notches right to make our buildings more 0:07:04.135 --> 0:07:07.935 energy efficient, to make them war Alma basically, or to 0:07:08.455 --> 0:07:11.135 upgrade the amount of insulation that came into effect in 0:07:12.655 --> 0:07:16.295 November twenty twenty three, and then, of course about less 0:07:16.375 --> 0:07:22.615 than a year later that the incoming government goes, oh, well, look, 0:07:23.055 --> 0:07:25.815 the feedback from the sector has been that the insulation 0:07:25.935 --> 0:07:30.615 standards are too high. They've added significant costs to buildings. 0:07:30.655 --> 0:07:32.415 We should look at winding that. And that was kind 0:07:32.415 --> 0:07:34.775 of the first one of the first announcements. Look, we're 0:07:34.775 --> 0:07:36.775 going to look at this. We've being told it adds 0:07:36.815 --> 0:07:38.935 fifty thousand dollars to the cost of a new build. 0:07:39.495 --> 0:07:41.935 We're going to save you fifty thousand dollars by winding 0:07:41.975 --> 0:07:46.735 back h one fascinating debate. We've talked about it a 0:07:46.775 --> 0:07:50.015 couple of times on the show over a fairly long 0:07:50.055 --> 0:07:55.095 period of time, consultation, and finally, as in this week, 0:07:55.455 --> 0:07:58.895 decision has been made and the decision and I have 0:07:58.975 --> 0:08:01.935 to say my frustration with the way that this has 0:08:01.975 --> 0:08:06.055 been reported in the media has been enormous. There has 0:08:06.095 --> 0:08:11.535 been much shouting at televisions, radios, stomping of feet, banging 0:08:11.575 --> 0:08:14.935 of hands on the desk or reading the newspaper at 0:08:14.935 --> 0:08:17.335 the way in which it's been presented. And so often 0:08:17.815 --> 0:08:21.655 the reporting will be along lines of insulation standards are 0:08:21.655 --> 0:08:29.695 going to be reduced, right, which is not actually true. 0:08:29.935 --> 0:08:34.095 Insallation standards, the actual performance criteria for the house are 0:08:34.135 --> 0:08:36.775 not changing. The way in which you get to the 0:08:36.775 --> 0:08:38.295 best of my knowl which the way in which you 0:08:38.415 --> 0:08:40.855 get there is going to change. So there used to 0:08:40.895 --> 0:08:43.495 be a thing called the schedule method. It's still out 0:08:43.535 --> 0:08:45.335 there it means that you can go to the code 0:08:45.775 --> 0:08:49.255 and you go right every If I use the schedule 0:08:49.295 --> 0:08:51.775 method to determine the amount of insulation I need in 0:08:51.815 --> 0:08:54.015 my house, I'm going to end up with six point 0:08:54.015 --> 0:08:57.375 six in the ceiling, because that's what's required everywhere in 0:08:57.375 --> 0:09:02.615 the country, in the Cargol to Kaitaire, everywhere in the country. 0:09:02.655 --> 0:09:05.415 If you use the schedule method six point six. To 0:09:05.495 --> 0:09:10.135 be fair, that I think an ill conceived idea when 0:09:10.135 --> 0:09:16.295 it came out. So anyway, the schedule method at this stage, anyway, 0:09:16.295 --> 0:09:19.015 it seems like the decision is we're going to discard 0:09:19.055 --> 0:09:22.815 that in favor of two other pathways to compliance, one 0:09:22.855 --> 0:09:26.895 of which is calculation method. The other is the modeling method. 0:09:27.095 --> 0:09:29.495 Happy to talk about this, I think it's really important, 0:09:29.655 --> 0:09:32.575 but I do want to state that this is not 0:09:33.295 --> 0:09:36.935 a reduction in the insulation standards. It's just a better, 0:09:37.415 --> 0:09:40.495 more nuanced way of actually figuring out what's going on 0:09:40.535 --> 0:09:43.415 in our houses. Last week on the show as well, 0:09:44.095 --> 0:09:48.135 I mentioned another little project that I've been involved in, 0:09:48.175 --> 0:09:51.735 which is looking at the heating requirements for Healthy Home 0:09:51.815 --> 0:09:56.335 standards for in this case an apartment, so an inner 0:09:56.335 --> 0:10:01.655 city apartment relatively new built late about nineteen ninety seven, 0:10:01.735 --> 0:10:07.375 so not a terribly old building, still had stand dolominium joinery, 0:10:07.495 --> 0:10:12.215 single glazing, it's concrete construction, et cetera. But the people 0:10:12.575 --> 0:10:16.135 who are the landlords, are the owners of the property. 0:10:16.255 --> 0:10:19.415 Had had a healthy homes assessment done by someone, and 0:10:19.455 --> 0:10:21.775 in fact, I was reading the report last night, so 0:10:22.495 --> 0:10:25.095 I've got the original report that was done, and the 0:10:25.095 --> 0:10:30.455 heating calculation that that person determined was four kilowatts of 0:10:30.535 --> 0:10:35.055 heating in that particular space. This is forty five forty 0:10:35.055 --> 0:10:38.095 six square meters, which isn't massive, right, and it's in 0:10:38.135 --> 0:10:41.215 the apartment, and there are apartments above and below and 0:10:41.295 --> 0:10:43.975 next to it, and okay, so they went out, they 0:10:44.015 --> 0:10:49.375 got heating that complied to that amount, in fact exceeded it. 0:10:49.775 --> 0:10:51.935 Then they found out that the heating that they'd put 0:10:51.975 --> 0:10:54.735 in was not going to be compliant with healthy home 0:10:54.775 --> 0:10:57.495 standards because it was more than two point four kilowats 0:10:57.535 --> 0:10:59.695 and it wasn't a heat pump. They had fixed in 0:10:59.815 --> 0:11:03.255 panel heaters, very very good quality panel heaters, but they 0:11:03.295 --> 0:11:06.615 don't comply because if you have a heating requirement over 0:11:06.655 --> 0:11:10.735 two point four, it must be a heat pump. So 0:11:10.855 --> 0:11:15.495 then someone else did a heating assessment on it their results, 0:11:15.535 --> 0:11:17.735 and again I read that report last night as well. 0:11:18.455 --> 0:11:21.895 I wasn't very good company last night said that the 0:11:21.935 --> 0:11:29.735 heating requirement for that space was three killer what I 0:11:29.815 --> 0:11:34.855 looked at it and kind of used the calculator and 0:11:35.015 --> 0:11:38.455 adjusted the figures. Let's say, so, I haven't submitted this. 0:11:38.535 --> 0:11:41.135 I just used the online tool that everyone can use 0:11:41.135 --> 0:11:43.815 if you go to tendency Services, and I figured out 0:11:43.855 --> 0:11:46.495 that it would be I thought, in terms of actual 0:11:46.535 --> 0:11:49.255 practical use, given that there's an apartment above and one 0:11:49.295 --> 0:11:52.855 below and some on each side, that the heating requirement 0:11:53.015 --> 0:11:57.415 might be around one point two. We went out and 0:11:57.455 --> 0:12:04.335 had it probably properly modeled by a basically building scientist 0:12:04.815 --> 0:12:08.975 who determined that the actual heating requirement was zero point 0:12:09.095 --> 0:12:14.735 five to seven killer watts of energy. Now that's a 0:12:14.855 --> 0:12:18.735 long way from four. Still a long way or four 0:12:18.775 --> 0:12:21.055 point two, I think it was. It's a long way 0:12:21.095 --> 0:12:24.095 from three. It's even quite a long way from one 0:12:24.135 --> 0:12:28.375 point two. So just dwell on that for a moment. 0:12:28.415 --> 0:12:31.415 Think about the potential implications that if you use the 0:12:31.455 --> 0:12:35.375 online tool you're going to end up with a number. Well, 0:12:36.615 --> 0:12:39.615 it just raises so many questions. One is how do 0:12:39.775 --> 0:12:43.415 two people assessing exactly the same building come up with 0:12:43.495 --> 0:12:48.615 two numbers that are completely different? And then how do 0:12:48.695 --> 0:12:50.655 I come up with a number that's even less than 0:12:50.655 --> 0:12:52.775 that looking at a real world example, how does this 0:12:52.815 --> 0:13:00.855 building actually perform? And then having it independently scientifically showing 0:13:01.055 --> 0:13:04.215 that in fact, the heating requirement is considerably less. Again, 0:13:04.615 --> 0:13:07.095 we can talk about that as well. And oh, I 0:13:07.175 --> 0:13:09.335 got to tell you about this phone call? Random phone call. 0:13:09.655 --> 0:13:11.615 Chappy rings up and goes, what do you know about 0:13:11.615 --> 0:13:14.615 this rock Coat stuff? Because I'm about to buy a house. 0:13:14.735 --> 0:13:17.095 I said, what do you mean? I don't know him? 0:13:17.255 --> 0:13:18.975 You just I don't know. To be fair, I don't 0:13:18.975 --> 0:13:21.015 even know who he got my number. He listens to 0:13:21.015 --> 0:13:23.055 the show and somehow you got my number, Good on you, 0:13:24.015 --> 0:13:27.415 and he goes the auctions later on today. Can you 0:13:27.495 --> 0:13:30.255 tell me anything about it as it happens? I could, 0:13:30.775 --> 0:13:32.255 And the only reason I could is because I know 0:13:32.295 --> 0:13:35.375 the guy who is the general manager for Razine Construction 0:13:35.535 --> 0:13:37.495 and rock Coat, and so I was able to ring 0:13:37.535 --> 0:13:39.015 him and go, here's the address. What do you know 0:13:39.055 --> 0:13:41.255 about the house? He knows a lot about it. I'll 0:13:41.255 --> 0:13:42.895 tell you about that a bit later on as well. 0:13:43.215 --> 0:13:46.055 Radio folks, thank you very much for listening. Let's get 0:13:46.095 --> 0:13:48.535 into it. Sorry about the the heck up at the start. 0:13:49.015 --> 0:13:51.615 We got that sorted. I've got some technical ability. It 0:13:51.695 --> 0:13:53.815 is twenty minutes after six. We're going to take short break. 0:13:53.815 --> 0:13:55.335 We're going to talk to Steve in a moment. We've 0:13:55.375 --> 0:13:58.655 got some lines free. Eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty. 0:13:58.855 --> 0:14:00.735 There is lots to talk about. 0:14:00.615 --> 0:14:03.495 Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering 0:14:03.535 --> 0:14:05.615 how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter 0:14:05.655 --> 0:14:10.575 wolf Gamble on eight the resident builder on News Dogs. 0:14:10.575 --> 0:14:14.855 That'd be I'm slightly baffled by this text. To be fair, 0:14:14.975 --> 0:14:18.055 we'll come to Stephen just a second. Your example describes 0:14:18.135 --> 0:14:23.375 exactly why there's a schedule method, Peter, I'm not sure 0:14:23.375 --> 0:14:31.815 what you're trying to say there. Yeah, anyway, if you'd 0:14:31.815 --> 0:14:33.455 like to give me some more details, or better still, 0:14:33.495 --> 0:14:36.175 give me a call, that'd be great. Other texts from Owen, 0:14:36.255 --> 0:14:39.015 good to hear the minister listened. If not keeping everyone happy. 0:14:39.015 --> 0:14:40.935 What I want to know is why any government thinks 0:14:40.975 --> 0:14:45.215 it's okay for the situation to continue where developers can 0:14:45.255 --> 0:14:48.255 build or modify buildings into apartments walk away with the 0:14:48.295 --> 0:14:52.175 profits and leave apartment purchases with huge remediation costs that 0:14:52.295 --> 0:14:53.975 in many cases ruin them. I want to see the 0:14:54.015 --> 0:14:56.415 responsibility follow the money and the man not to a 0:14:56.455 --> 0:15:00.615 dissolve company. Look, that has historically been an issue, and 0:15:00.655 --> 0:15:03.415 there's any number of bits of litigation. In fact, I 0:15:03.455 --> 0:15:06.975 know a guy who's a lawyer who's kind of a 0:15:07.015 --> 0:15:09.815 mate as well, who's been involved in one case. I 0:15:09.815 --> 0:15:14.535 think for some like twelve years. In terms of remediation, 0:15:14.655 --> 0:15:16.175 there was a I think there was a couple of 0:15:16.775 --> 0:15:19.775 sort of forced sales the other day where people had 0:15:19.895 --> 0:15:24.335 refused to pay their body corporate contribution to a remedial building, 0:15:24.935 --> 0:15:28.615 and then the body corporate is basically going to either 0:15:28.695 --> 0:15:30.975 bankrupt them or get them out of the property and 0:15:31.415 --> 0:15:33.855 sell it on their behalf. And so yeah, I look, 0:15:33.935 --> 0:15:38.055 I don't disagree with you. I think that's some either 0:15:38.175 --> 0:15:42.255 unscrupulous builders or developers have built buildings that have been 0:15:42.575 --> 0:15:47.215 terribly poorly performed, and the devastation that's wrought on people's 0:15:47.255 --> 0:15:50.175 lives is immense. I don't disagree with you. Oh eight 0:15:50.295 --> 0:15:52.775 hundred eighty ten eighty, let's get amongst the call. Steve, 0:15:52.895 --> 0:15:53.975 good morning. 0:15:54.975 --> 0:15:57.055 Good morning, Pepe. Thanks to you and enjoy your program. 0:15:57.135 --> 0:15:58.095 Thank you, thanks for calling. 0:15:59.255 --> 0:16:04.815 Yeah, I've moved a house. It's sort of been consented 0:16:04.815 --> 0:16:07.735 by the council into a property and as well underway, 0:16:08.175 --> 0:16:11.455 we want to just change the plumbing plan around a 0:16:11.455 --> 0:16:13.775 little bit. Had another toilet and just moves a tub 0:16:13.815 --> 0:16:19.975 and stuff like that. There's a layout of the plumbing 0:16:19.975 --> 0:16:24.815 and drainage obviously, and the registered plumber drain layer. He 0:16:24.975 --> 0:16:26.775 didn't think it's too much of a problem with it, 0:16:26.895 --> 0:16:30.615 and he will draw up a plan at the end 0:16:30.615 --> 0:16:33.895 of it and it goes into council. What I want 0:16:33.895 --> 0:16:38.655 to avoid is I'm having a big delay with going 0:16:38.655 --> 0:16:40.815 to apply for it now and then you know, and 0:16:40.855 --> 0:16:42.775 then all that sort of carry on. I'd sort of 0:16:42.855 --> 0:16:44.175 rather do it respectfully. 0:16:45.415 --> 0:16:49.375 I wouldn't suggest so the changes that you're proposing to 0:16:49.455 --> 0:16:53.175 make will add to the number of sanitary fitting fittings 0:16:53.175 --> 0:16:57.615 that are shown on the existing building consent. Yes, okay, 0:16:58.775 --> 0:17:02.375 that triggers the requirement for building consent in itself. So 0:17:02.415 --> 0:17:04.535 given that you've already got one and it's active, my 0:17:04.615 --> 0:17:08.455 advice to you would be to I would put it 0:17:08.495 --> 0:17:13.335 in as a minor variation. Right, So have your plumber 0:17:13.375 --> 0:17:15.695 won't be able to draw the plans. The plans have 0:17:15.775 --> 0:17:18.735 to be drawn by someone who has a LBP or 0:17:18.815 --> 0:17:22.015 is an LBP so has their design license, which I 0:17:22.055 --> 0:17:25.295 doubt your plumber is. So go back to the original 0:17:26.055 --> 0:17:29.855 drafts personal architect who did the drawings, ask them to 0:17:30.495 --> 0:17:36.575 amend the existing drawings showing the location and the pipework 0:17:36.655 --> 0:17:40.775 for the new sanitary fittings, and then submit that as 0:17:40.815 --> 0:17:45.135 a minor variation. Now, the council might not accept it 0:17:45.135 --> 0:17:48.615 as a minor variation, in which case it then becomes 0:17:48.655 --> 0:17:51.695 an amendment to the consent. That might take some time 0:17:51.735 --> 0:17:56.375 to process. But typically, depending on which council, or maybe 0:17:56.415 --> 0:18:00.215 even which inspector you know, a minor variation can often 0:18:00.255 --> 0:18:04.535 be just processed on site so they, you know, next inspection, 0:18:04.695 --> 0:18:08.135 or you book a special inspection meeting, get the inspector 0:18:08.175 --> 0:18:10.255 out and go, hey, look, just now that we're here 0:18:10.295 --> 0:18:11.895 and we've seen how it all works, we'd like to 0:18:11.895 --> 0:18:15.495 make this change. Here's some documentation for it. So if 0:18:15.495 --> 0:18:19.495 you've got the plan there straight away, here's the updated plan. 0:18:19.895 --> 0:18:22.015 They'll look at it, they can stamp it, sign it, 0:18:22.055 --> 0:18:25.295 and you can carry on. But doing it doing it 0:18:25.415 --> 0:18:29.095 later is to be blunt recipe for disaster. 0:18:31.215 --> 0:18:32.495 Okay, yeah, good advice. 0:18:32.735 --> 0:18:34.335 Do it now. I know it's a bit of a 0:18:34.415 --> 0:18:35.735 fair but do it now. 0:18:37.175 --> 0:18:40.775 Yeah, no, good advice. I've got the drafts from its 0:18:40.855 --> 0:18:43.655 registered and everything. Yeah, I'll draw it up. We'll get 0:18:43.695 --> 0:18:46.335 him to modify it and in a minor variation. 0:18:47.375 --> 0:18:51.095 And look, it's not too different to you know people going, oh, well, look, 0:18:51.095 --> 0:18:52.895 now that i've got the framing up, I've noticed that 0:18:52.975 --> 0:18:54.935 if I move that window over a little bit, I'll 0:18:54.975 --> 0:18:58.775 get a better view. And you know, it's relatively that's 0:18:58.815 --> 0:19:02.455 what happens right all the time, or gosh, you know, 0:19:02.735 --> 0:19:05.295 I've realized that, you know, I if I move that 0:19:05.375 --> 0:19:09.495 wall slightly, it'll increase the flow through the building, or 0:19:09.655 --> 0:19:12.495 you know all of those reasons. And you guys have obviously, 0:19:12.855 --> 0:19:15.335 now that you've got the house on site, you're probably 0:19:15.375 --> 0:19:17.295 walking through it going, oh gosh, if we made this 0:19:17.335 --> 0:19:19.135 little change, it'll be so much better. 0:19:19.175 --> 0:19:20.015 But do it now. 0:19:21.255 --> 0:19:23.215 Yeah. The only thing is that I want to put 0:19:23.215 --> 0:19:26.655 the extra toilet into a laundry that it joins the kitchen. 0:19:26.735 --> 0:19:28.815 There's a door between them. Is there any other problems 0:19:28.815 --> 0:19:29.055 of that? 0:19:29.095 --> 0:19:34.375 Do you think you might have to just check. For 0:19:34.535 --> 0:19:37.855 a while, there was rules that said you needed two 0:19:37.975 --> 0:19:42.135 doors between a toilet and a kitchen. Now I don't 0:19:42.255 --> 0:19:47.335 know if that's still the case, but often that was 0:19:47.375 --> 0:19:49.855 the case. So you needed two doors between a toilet 0:19:49.935 --> 0:19:50.535 and a kitchen. 0:19:52.335 --> 0:19:54.575 Yeah, okay, although I'm just. 0:19:54.535 --> 0:19:57.655 Thinking about like a downstairs powder room that might be 0:19:57.735 --> 0:20:00.255 like tucked in underneath the stairs of an open plan living. 0:20:00.295 --> 0:20:04.255 It'll only be one door. That might be the only 0:20:04.295 --> 0:20:07.895 thing that might trip you up. But your your architecture, 0:20:08.015 --> 0:20:10.655 your drafts person or your arciticct will will know how 0:20:10.695 --> 0:20:14.015 that should work. Okay, but yeah, do it now. Thanks, 0:20:14.375 --> 0:20:17.055 do it now, buddy, all the best, Okay, take care 0:20:17.055 --> 0:20:19.695 of Thank you, sir, Steve your news talks. He'd be 0:20:19.735 --> 0:20:23.055 people of camp with you, the resident builder here at Newstalks. 0:20:23.055 --> 0:20:26.655 He'd be coming up six thirty Colin, Good morning. 0:20:27.375 --> 0:20:28.295 Good morning tea. 0:20:28.415 --> 0:20:29.215 How are you on? 0:20:29.375 --> 0:20:30.935 Very well? Thank you Colin yourself. 0:20:32.175 --> 0:20:35.295 Well, I'll run out of doubt one day. Next seat, 0:20:35.415 --> 0:20:39.255 I've got someone to come and and check my root 0:20:39.495 --> 0:20:43.335 before they painted. It's got the point upon that teter. 0:20:43.655 --> 0:20:47.495 Yes, So it's now just just for listeners, is it 0:20:47.535 --> 0:20:50.015 a So it's one of those like pressed metal tile 0:20:50.215 --> 0:20:53.895 with the chips embedded on it, you should yeah, okay, yep. 0:20:55.375 --> 0:21:01.375 In the kitchen, Tita, I have got some crack in 0:21:01.495 --> 0:21:04.735 the ceiling through the taint. The taint is actually peeled, 0:21:05.375 --> 0:21:10.415 and that it's my way. I don't know why it's 0:21:10.535 --> 0:21:14.295 like it's since I've been in the place, but I've 0:21:14.295 --> 0:21:17.175 got it at half a dozen little spot and there's 0:21:17.295 --> 0:21:20.575 little cracks through the paint. Isn't because the way it's 0:21:20.655 --> 0:21:21.455 being prepared. 0:21:22.815 --> 0:21:25.575 It could be a combination of things. So one most 0:21:25.695 --> 0:21:29.015 likely it's the preparation. Right, So when the ceiling was painted, 0:21:29.135 --> 0:21:31.695 if let's say it was, if it's an older house 0:21:31.735 --> 0:21:33.975 and it's been painted a number of times, you put 0:21:34.015 --> 0:21:36.135 a new coat of paint over an old coat of paint, 0:21:36.175 --> 0:21:38.255 but the old code of paint fails and so starts 0:21:38.295 --> 0:21:40.935 to peel away, So that might be part of it. 0:21:40.975 --> 0:21:44.855 The other thing might be is if you've got not 0:21:45.135 --> 0:21:48.335 great insulation in the roof, then you'll be collecting a 0:21:48.335 --> 0:21:50.975 bit of moisture up there as well. So it's not 0:21:51.015 --> 0:21:53.455 necessarily a leak as in coming from the roof, but 0:21:53.895 --> 0:21:57.695 you're you're getting moisture collecting on the ceiling and that 0:21:57.775 --> 0:22:00.615 might affect the paint. And then, of course, the third 0:22:00.855 --> 0:22:03.935 possibility is that it actually is leaking if it's an 0:22:03.975 --> 0:22:06.135 older roof, in which case you'd want to try and 0:22:06.375 --> 0:22:09.255 identify that and fix the roof before you had the 0:22:09.335 --> 0:22:12.015 roof painted. Now's the time to fix it. 0:22:14.415 --> 0:22:17.295 I'll take the guy out once and he set the 0:22:17.375 --> 0:22:21.655 ceilings fine. I mean, the roof is fine, but yeah, 0:22:21.735 --> 0:22:26.015 it just puzzles me why it's got so many little 0:22:26.095 --> 0:22:29.735 cracks in it. I've got to get something to come 0:22:29.775 --> 0:22:31.895 in and do it. But I'm going to get the 0:22:32.615 --> 0:22:35.295 job done too. Yeah, so that's what I thought. 0:22:36.175 --> 0:22:38.775 In terms of the ceiling, I'd have a quick look 0:22:38.815 --> 0:22:41.415 inside the roof space and see what the insallation's like 0:22:41.455 --> 0:22:43.615 because that might have an impact on it. But then 0:22:44.535 --> 0:22:47.335 in terms of prepping that ceiling, you'd want to give 0:22:47.375 --> 0:22:51.135 it a really thorough clean, like with a proper paint 0:22:51.215 --> 0:22:54.495 preparation cleaner, so something that's going to be quite powerful. 0:22:54.895 --> 0:22:58.095 Clean the ceiling down, give it a light sand to 0:22:58.615 --> 0:23:02.975 knock black back the gloss level, and then I would recommend, 0:23:03.295 --> 0:23:05.535 especially if it's in a kitchen sort of an area 0:23:05.575 --> 0:23:08.615 with a bit of humid, put a coat of pigmented 0:23:08.655 --> 0:23:12.015 sealer on it first. That binds everything together, and then 0:23:12.135 --> 0:23:14.735 go ahead and put your top coats on. So you know, 0:23:14.775 --> 0:23:16.935 I think often what happens is people go, oh, I'm 0:23:16.935 --> 0:23:19.095 going to repaint the ceiling and they just get out 0:23:19.135 --> 0:23:21.175 the roller in a bucket of paint, tip it and 0:23:21.335 --> 0:23:23.935 roll the ceiling and then six months later they go, 0:23:24.055 --> 0:23:26.255 I wonder why that's peeling off. Well, because you haven't 0:23:26.295 --> 0:23:29.175 done the preparation. So good prep, I'll give you a 0:23:29.175 --> 0:23:29.855 good paint job. 0:23:30.735 --> 0:23:31.175 Yeah I was. 0:23:31.215 --> 0:23:33.775 Actually I'm going to get a a twadem and tun 0:23:33.895 --> 0:23:35.215 them and actually do the same. 0:23:35.575 --> 0:23:38.455 Yeah. Perfect, okay, but again make sure you say to 0:23:38.535 --> 0:23:41.415 them how are you going to do it? And I 0:23:41.455 --> 0:23:43.375 think that the best way to do it is to 0:23:44.495 --> 0:23:48.855 you know, clean it, send it pigmented sealer top coats 0:23:49.535 --> 0:23:51.135 and if they go, oh no, I'm just going to 0:23:51.135 --> 0:23:53.095 paint it, then you kind of go, well, I might 0:23:53.135 --> 0:23:53.975 look for another painter. 0:23:54.895 --> 0:23:55.135 Yeah. 0:23:55.375 --> 0:24:02.015 Yeah, all the best, Thank you mate, take care by bye. 0:24:03.095 --> 0:24:03.215 Oh. 0:24:03.295 --> 0:24:07.735 One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 0:24:08.335 --> 0:24:12.215 Just referring to Steve's comments about the building consent wanting 0:24:12.215 --> 0:24:15.695 to make some small changes, particularly about adding for example, 0:24:15.695 --> 0:24:19.535 a toilet into I think a laundry area. Someone's text Pete. 0:24:19.575 --> 0:24:21.695 If it's already in for consent, get the consent and 0:24:21.735 --> 0:24:26.215 get underway, or your builder is going to be held up. No, 0:24:26.695 --> 0:24:29.135 I disagree with you there. If you're going to make 0:24:29.175 --> 0:24:31.495 a change like that that you know requires a building 0:24:31.535 --> 0:24:34.655 consent or an amendment to the building consent or a 0:24:34.695 --> 0:24:39.175 minor variation, get that sorted out. My impression is that 0:24:39.215 --> 0:24:41.895 the project's already underway right. The house has been moved on, 0:24:41.935 --> 0:24:43.975 they're doing the work on it. It's got a building 0:24:44.015 --> 0:24:49.815 consent for the relocation of the building. So if you're 0:24:49.815 --> 0:24:52.655 going to make a change, get that into counsel as 0:24:52.655 --> 0:24:57.295 soon as possible. Don't expect to counsel to look kindly 0:24:57.455 --> 0:25:00.455 on you making changes and then kind of asking for 0:25:00.535 --> 0:25:04.135 permission later on. Just doesn't work that way, right. Six 0:25:04.295 --> 0:25:06.935 thirty four Here at news Talk set Big Take, short break, 0:25:06.935 --> 0:25:10.095 come back with Xavier in just a moment. Squeaky door 0:25:10.535 --> 0:25:11.575 or squeaky floor. 0:25:11.735 --> 0:25:15.135 Get the right advice from Feta Wolfcare, the resident builder 0:25:15.295 --> 0:25:17.535 on NEWSTALKSB your. 0:25:17.415 --> 0:25:20.335 News Talk's HEDB. We're talking all things building in construction. 0:25:20.415 --> 0:25:22.375 Off with a Hisstener Raw this morning. If you've got 0:25:22.375 --> 0:25:24.575 a question of a building nature. You should call me 0:25:24.815 --> 0:25:27.255 right now. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:25:27.295 --> 0:25:29.615 that number to call. Owen's text through as well. Just 0:25:29.655 --> 0:25:31.895 with regard to Colin talking about you know what could 0:25:31.935 --> 0:25:35.495 cause cracking in the paint work of the ceiling, has 0:25:35.535 --> 0:25:39.335 suggested that painting an enamel over and acrylic may result 0:25:39.335 --> 0:25:43.575 in cracking too because of generally the inflexibility of the 0:25:43.735 --> 0:25:47.655 enamel on the expanding and contracting a crilic Thank you 0:25:47.735 --> 0:25:51.015 very much for that one. Yeah, it is quite And 0:25:51.095 --> 0:25:56.375 I made the comment about a legislation or rules building 0:25:56.415 --> 0:25:59.335 code rules around whether or not you needed more than 0:25:59.455 --> 0:26:02.695 one door between a toilet and the kitchen. It's just 0:26:02.775 --> 0:26:05.695 it's one of those old rules that sort of floated around. Anyway, 0:26:05.735 --> 0:26:08.615 Someone's text, hey where can I send you a pack? Well, 0:26:08.655 --> 0:26:09.775 if you want to send a pick, you have to 0:26:09.775 --> 0:26:12.335 email it to me. That's Pete at newstalksb dot co 0:26:12.535 --> 0:26:17.815 dot nz. And one we have one bathroom in our house. 0:26:17.855 --> 0:26:20.495 It's literally seven steps away from the kitchen bench and 0:26:20.695 --> 0:26:23.935 there is only one door. Just trying thing about my 0:26:24.015 --> 0:26:26.175 own house. And we got some doors into the hallway 0:26:26.215 --> 0:26:28.735 which are typically always open, and then one door to 0:26:28.775 --> 0:26:31.215 the bathroom which is off the hallway, typical old villa. 0:26:32.775 --> 0:26:35.135 So if the doors are open, which they are most 0:26:35.135 --> 0:26:38.975 of the time, and it's only one one door between 0:26:38.975 --> 0:26:42.175 the kitchen, maybe it's a distance thing as well. It 0:26:42.295 --> 0:26:45.375 just it stuck with me. I remember discussing it. To 0:26:45.415 --> 0:26:47.975 be fair, it could have been twenty or thirty years ago, 0:26:48.015 --> 0:26:51.415 but anyway, right, and someone takes through. I get this 0:26:51.455 --> 0:26:55.175 all the time. It's hilarious song, so depressing it really 0:26:55.175 --> 0:26:57.295 gets a bad start to the show. I'll tell you 0:26:57.295 --> 0:27:01.495 what in kindness, I'll say this. I did last year 0:27:01.535 --> 0:27:03.495 on the anniversary of the show. Decided to change the 0:27:03.535 --> 0:27:05.855 song and I came up with something else, and then 0:27:05.855 --> 0:27:08.975 everyone went, we liked the song, We like the song 0:27:09.015 --> 0:27:12.655 back please So oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:27:12.815 --> 0:27:15.815 is the number to call New Texas. Just come in morning, Pete. 0:27:15.855 --> 0:27:19.175 What happens if the council has no limb or any 0:27:19.215 --> 0:27:21.935 other records of our house? Is there anywhere else to 0:27:21.975 --> 0:27:26.335 find information for consents? Et cetera. We recently bought a 0:27:26.375 --> 0:27:30.455 house in the Rangutiki district and council and they say 0:27:30.495 --> 0:27:32.815 that they had a fire sometime ago and all of 0:27:32.855 --> 0:27:37.255 the records were lost. Apparently it's a common thing. I 0:27:37.335 --> 0:27:40.055 tell you, what's a common thing. And I'm amazed that 0:27:40.095 --> 0:27:43.535 there are any records left. But I have heard we 0:27:43.695 --> 0:27:48.295 had a fire and all the records were lost. I 0:27:48.335 --> 0:27:50.695 was going to say hundreds of times. No, not hundreds 0:27:50.735 --> 0:27:54.255 of times, but I've heard it from almost every single 0:27:54.655 --> 0:28:00.815 council in the country over the last umpteen years. We 0:28:00.935 --> 0:28:03.815 had a fire and all the records were lost. I've 0:28:03.855 --> 0:28:08.255 heard that over and over and over again. I don't 0:28:08.295 --> 0:28:11.055 think that council buildings are that likely to burn down 0:28:11.335 --> 0:28:15.375 and destroy all of the council records for building consents 0:28:15.415 --> 0:28:18.895 and building permits and all the rest of it. I 0:28:18.935 --> 0:28:22.055 think that councils just lose stuff. So look, in the 0:28:22.095 --> 0:28:24.935 event that council don't have anything on the limb, you 0:28:25.015 --> 0:28:28.255 could ask for the property file, which is slightly different 0:28:28.295 --> 0:28:32.295 to the limb, and that literally is anything that they've 0:28:32.295 --> 0:28:35.255 got on file about the building. But it is also 0:28:35.615 --> 0:28:40.215 not uncommon for older buildings that there are simply no. 0:28:41.855 --> 0:28:42.335 Records. 0:28:42.455 --> 0:28:45.935 And I've had exactly the same I requested the property 0:28:45.975 --> 0:28:51.295 file for a property and I did it online, paid 0:28:51.295 --> 0:28:53.615 my money. It was like seventy six dollars or something 0:28:53.735 --> 0:28:55.975 like that paid for it, and about two or three 0:28:56.055 --> 0:28:59.815 days later I got a phone call from someone working 0:28:59.815 --> 0:29:02.935 at that particular council saying, hey, look, we know that 0:29:02.975 --> 0:29:05.775 you've made this request, but to be fair, we've got nothing. 0:29:06.975 --> 0:29:10.935 We got nothing, so you know, send us an email 0:29:11.055 --> 0:29:15.855 and we'll refund your money. There you go. Oh eight 0:29:15.855 --> 0:29:20.015 one hundred and eighty eighty is the number. Call Call 0:29:20.055 --> 0:29:24.135 seems to have dropped off. That's a right if you've 0:29:24.135 --> 0:29:27.655 got a question about building or about building consents and 0:29:27.775 --> 0:29:32.135 rules regulations. And I am quite keen to discuss the 0:29:32.175 --> 0:29:37.455 whole heating assessment tool thing, just based on my own 0:29:37.495 --> 0:29:41.975 experience of using it recently and then looking at and 0:29:42.015 --> 0:29:46.975 I've got them up on my laptop A. This is 0:29:47.015 --> 0:29:49.095 all part of the Healthy Home Standards right, So as 0:29:49.135 --> 0:29:53.415 a landlord, now there's no more time to get yourself 0:29:53.455 --> 0:29:56.455 sorted in terms of complying with Healthy Home standards. As 0:29:56.495 --> 0:30:00.415 of the first of July, so six days ago, all 0:30:00.735 --> 0:30:07.455 New Zealand residential rental properties must have a must be 0:30:07.575 --> 0:30:10.495 Healthy Homes compliant right. There are no more exceptions, there's 0:30:10.535 --> 0:30:12.775 no more delays, there's no more I'll get round to 0:30:12.815 --> 0:30:16.455 it tomorrow. It's all just got to happen. And so 0:30:17.495 --> 0:30:21.335 everyone who has a residential rental property will need to 0:30:21.335 --> 0:30:25.775 do a heating assessment to prove that the building can 0:30:26.015 --> 0:30:28.975 get to twenty degrees on the coldest day of the year, 0:30:29.255 --> 0:30:32.095 and that varies across the country depending on what climatic 0:30:32.175 --> 0:30:34.975 zone you're in. And then obviously what it takes to 0:30:35.015 --> 0:30:39.695 get to twenty degrees in terms of this calculation depends 0:30:39.775 --> 0:30:42.815 on what the building is made of. Is there a 0:30:42.855 --> 0:30:45.575 lots of insulation, not much insulation, et cetera, et cetera. 0:30:45.655 --> 0:30:48.135 And so you use the tool, it's the government's tool. 0:30:48.175 --> 0:30:51.575 It's on the Tendency Services website. You use the tool, 0:30:51.615 --> 0:30:53.695 you enter in the data and it spits out a number. 0:30:54.855 --> 0:30:57.815 So one report, this is bearing in mind, this is 0:30:57.855 --> 0:31:01.015 exactly the same building right that we're looking at here. 0:31:01.855 --> 0:31:04.535 One report and I'm reading it right now, ends up 0:31:04.575 --> 0:31:12.455 with a heating recommendation of So the building you require 0:31:12.575 --> 0:31:16.055 four point five kilowats of heating capacity to heat the 0:31:16.055 --> 0:31:20.615 living room. Heating needs to provide this heating capacity with 0:31:20.655 --> 0:31:23.135 an outdoor temperature of one degree. So that's the assumption 0:31:23.535 --> 0:31:26.855 in Auckland that it might be one degree outside when 0:31:26.895 --> 0:31:28.695 it's one degree outside. You've got to be able to 0:31:28.735 --> 0:31:31.335 get that room to twenty degrees and in order to 0:31:31.415 --> 0:31:35.055 do that, you've got to have four point five kilowatts 0:31:35.735 --> 0:31:40.255 of heating. Then exactly the same building, another report done 0:31:40.255 --> 0:31:43.295 by another assessor generates a number that says you need 0:31:43.695 --> 0:31:49.575 three kilowatts of heating, just quite a bit different. Then 0:31:49.615 --> 0:31:52.615 I did calculations based on how I think the building 0:31:52.655 --> 0:31:55.655 actually performs using the tool, and I got one point two. 0:31:56.775 --> 0:31:59.335 Then we went out and got a professional to do 0:31:59.415 --> 0:32:02.335 a model of the building, a theoretical model of the 0:32:02.335 --> 0:32:05.375 building to see what heating requirement there was actually going 0:32:05.455 --> 0:32:11.175 to be. Came back at zero point five to seven killowatts. 0:32:12.175 --> 0:32:15.735 Think about what's required to heat to four point five 0:32:16.055 --> 0:32:22.535 versus zero point five to seven. It is significant difference, right, 0:32:22.895 --> 0:32:26.495 and what you need to do. I e. In one case, 0:32:26.575 --> 0:32:29.775 you must install a heat pump, which means penetrating the 0:32:29.775 --> 0:32:33.415 exterior cladding, doing lots of electrical work, making sure that 0:32:33.415 --> 0:32:35.935 you've got a drainage pathway from the indoor unit to 0:32:35.975 --> 0:32:38.935 the outside. For the comments eight, you've got to have 0:32:38.975 --> 0:32:41.575 somewhere to sit that outdoor unit, which in an apartment 0:32:41.575 --> 0:32:45.615 could be a little bit challenging, and you know all 0:32:45.655 --> 0:32:48.735 of the cost involved to do something that in the end, 0:32:49.135 --> 0:32:52.295 in my opinion, you don't actually need. So give us 0:32:52.295 --> 0:32:53.975 a call on that if you'd like. Oh, eight hundred 0:32:54.095 --> 0:32:56.215 eighty ten eighty is the number to call. James. Good 0:32:56.255 --> 0:32:56.735 morning to. 0:32:56.695 --> 0:32:58.895 You, Jane. 0:32:58.895 --> 0:33:06.415 That's good things, just kind of all. My mother's on 0:33:06.415 --> 0:33:10.895 her own. She's got a naked aker land and he's 0:33:11.575 --> 0:33:15.335 beside her. Baker Land has been subdivided, and they've got 0:33:15.455 --> 0:33:21.415 the neighbor has built a big his house is slightly raised, 0:33:21.895 --> 0:33:25.975 and he's built a long cronky drive from the road 0:33:26.095 --> 0:33:28.735 up to his house in the in the fall of 0:33:28.815 --> 0:33:35.135 the of the driveways going towards my mother's house, and 0:33:35.695 --> 0:33:40.935 it's flooding. She's never had that film before and so 0:33:41.015 --> 0:33:42.535 I had to talk to him and then I said, 0:33:42.575 --> 0:33:45.895 you need to such that drive. The fool is wrong 0:33:46.415 --> 0:33:50.375 and he said that costs me quite a bit. And 0:33:50.495 --> 0:33:54.055 I said, well, well, He said, how vert if I 0:33:54.135 --> 0:33:59.015 put a sum the so caol and your parents just 0:33:59.095 --> 0:34:03.175 through the fence into the appearance place. And I said, no, 0:34:03.775 --> 0:34:07.655 you can't do that, I thought the council. He said, oh, 0:34:07.895 --> 0:34:10.695 you get them, get her to agree. She's in her eighties. 0:34:10.735 --> 0:34:14.095 And I said no, I said, you can't do that. 0:34:14.335 --> 0:34:19.175 So I don't think you can, kiddy, Hell no, yeah, 0:34:20.095 --> 0:34:23.255 oh sort of, because that would come under lund too. 0:34:23.615 --> 0:34:24.015 I mean. 0:34:25.815 --> 0:34:27.375 You have told the house, wouldn't you. 0:34:27.655 --> 0:34:28.575 No, you don't. 0:34:29.055 --> 0:34:33.855 You don't allow the neighbor who's basically lazy and maybe 0:34:33.895 --> 0:34:37.695 a little bit of a bully to do that, right, 0:34:37.855 --> 0:34:42.855 So that that and also that type of drainage would 0:34:42.935 --> 0:34:45.175 require a consent. You never get consent for it, right, 0:34:47.895 --> 0:34:51.175 So this this development that's going on next door obviously 0:34:51.375 --> 0:34:52.135 is consented. 0:34:54.175 --> 0:35:00.615 He felt, well, yeah, that's quite long. She's her the 0:35:00.735 --> 0:35:05.895 back of her sections panic and and his house is 0:35:06.015 --> 0:35:09.055 right the end of the pedic in a very long driveway. 0:35:09.255 --> 0:35:14.415 So the water comes raw and down, Yeah, raised coming 0:35:14.495 --> 0:35:19.215 down because the foolall is going to my mother's place. 0:35:19.615 --> 0:35:20.135 She's well in. 0:35:21.775 --> 0:35:23.015 And what is flooding in ord? 0:35:24.055 --> 0:35:25.935 And I said, yeah, you're going to have to change 0:35:26.095 --> 0:35:26.535 four of it? 0:35:26.815 --> 0:35:30.615 So yeah, so he could you know, in terms of 0:35:31.335 --> 0:35:34.135 actually fixing it, what he could do is add a curb, right, 0:35:34.655 --> 0:35:36.935 so it might fall to one side, but then he 0:35:37.095 --> 0:35:41.575 catches it in with a curb and then directs that down. 0:35:41.655 --> 0:35:43.935 But then he's got to collect that somewhere as well, 0:35:44.295 --> 0:35:47.655 right and dispose of it, and all of that is 0:35:47.815 --> 0:35:50.935 required by law. So that's why I asked if he's 0:35:50.935 --> 0:35:53.495 got a building consent, I would say that on the 0:35:53.535 --> 0:35:57.215 building consent, it will show us a particular design for 0:35:57.335 --> 0:36:03.455 the driveway. And I wonder whether what he's done is 0:36:03.735 --> 0:36:07.295 not complied with the design for the drive way. He's 0:36:07.375 --> 0:36:11.135 just gone ahead whack something in in the hope that 0:36:11.215 --> 0:36:14.535 no one's going to complain, but obviously it is causing flooding. 0:36:14.775 --> 0:36:19.735 So one option would be to go to him and say, 0:36:19.935 --> 0:36:22.775 can you show me the design for the driveway please, 0:36:23.335 --> 0:36:24.535 and then have a look at it, and if it 0:36:24.575 --> 0:36:27.495 doesn't match up, you know that like if he's saying, 0:36:27.535 --> 0:36:29.535 it's not my problem, I've just put the driveway, and 0:36:29.615 --> 0:36:31.495 then you could say, well, look we do have a 0:36:31.575 --> 0:36:35.495 problem because we're flooding or my mum's flooding, and so 0:36:36.375 --> 0:36:38.855 I'm not convinced that the driveway is built as per 0:36:38.935 --> 0:36:46.615 the consent. Yeah, So and then you know, if he's 0:36:46.695 --> 0:36:50.735 reluctant to play ball again, I'd probably get in touch 0:36:50.775 --> 0:36:54.015 with counsel. If he's doing a subdivision, there'll be both 0:36:54.175 --> 0:36:56.335 a resource consent and a building consent. 0:36:58.335 --> 0:37:05.415 The house is already established. But yeah, and already is stablished. 0:37:06.295 --> 0:37:09.815 It's don't come a year and year and her maybe 0:37:09.855 --> 0:37:12.935 two years done, but with an increasing rain with it. 0:37:13.135 --> 0:37:17.135 But just notice got worse and then it's just a 0:37:17.335 --> 0:37:19.175 fund of the bed that's all coming. 0:37:19.335 --> 0:37:23.335 So on the adjoining property. On the adjoining property, James is, 0:37:23.415 --> 0:37:25.375 there's still just one dwelling. 0:37:27.495 --> 0:37:32.255 These three in the driveway. That in the driveway feeds 0:37:32.415 --> 0:37:37.535 two houses on the So the the driveway runs right 0:37:37.655 --> 0:37:42.975 along the Yeah, it's coming under the fence and flooding 0:37:43.015 --> 0:37:43.535 into the water. 0:37:43.775 --> 0:37:48.375 And I'd be happy to bet dollars to donuts that 0:37:48.735 --> 0:37:52.855 the driveway design probably shows either a swale or a 0:37:53.015 --> 0:37:56.335 curb as catchment and then that should be directed to 0:37:56.535 --> 0:38:00.175 some controlled storm water. If he hasn't done that, it's 0:38:00.295 --> 0:38:05.135 it's absolutely his problem, right you just it's a requirement 0:38:05.255 --> 0:38:07.655 under the property law that you have to control stormwater 0:38:07.775 --> 0:38:10.775 discharge from your property. He's not doing that, and he's 0:38:10.815 --> 0:38:13.335 in a breach. So the other person to talk to 0:38:13.495 --> 0:38:19.095 James would be go to counsel and ask to speak 0:38:19.175 --> 0:38:23.295 to the resource Consents compliance monitoring officer and ask them 0:38:23.375 --> 0:38:23.895 to go out. 0:38:23.775 --> 0:38:25.655 And have a look, yes. 0:38:26.975 --> 0:38:29.575 Next week, so very much that no trouble. 0:38:29.335 --> 0:38:32.655 Back, all the best, take care see then frustrating A. 0:38:32.895 --> 0:38:34.735 I mean, because it's to be blunt. It's not that 0:38:34.895 --> 0:38:38.975 hard to do a driveway where you are catching the 0:38:39.295 --> 0:38:41.895 water that falls onto the driveway. It's a hard surface, 0:38:41.975 --> 0:38:45.775 it's impermeable, it's going to sheet off somewhere. So most 0:38:45.935 --> 0:38:48.775 driveways will have either a bit of a dish running 0:38:48.815 --> 0:38:51.695 down one side which will catch the water directed into 0:38:52.215 --> 0:38:54.495 a catch pit or to a channel grate and then 0:38:54.615 --> 0:38:57.815 discharge it into stormwater. But just sloping the driveway so 0:38:57.895 --> 0:39:01.135 it falls to your neighbors is simply not acceptable. 0:39:01.535 --> 0:39:04.255 Take short break back in a moth helping you get 0:39:04.335 --> 0:39:08.375 those diway projects done to the resident builder with Peter 0:39:08.455 --> 0:39:09.415 Wolfcat call. 0:39:11.055 --> 0:39:14.215 Talk news sport and with the top of the air 0:39:14.295 --> 0:39:16.415 coming up shortly but Gerald, good morning. 0:39:17.455 --> 0:39:21.415 Good morning, Yeah, listen to to program and a lot. 0:39:22.255 --> 0:39:28.815 I've got a problem an older cottage with a corrugated 0:39:28.895 --> 0:39:33.255 iron roof. The organized now the leadhead nails are going 0:39:33.855 --> 0:39:35.735 ted leadheads in it, which I wanted to get rid of. 0:39:37.535 --> 0:39:40.895 They've gone getting rush marks around them, so we pulled 0:39:40.935 --> 0:39:43.255 them out and there's a little bit of rusty. He 0:39:43.375 --> 0:39:48.535 needs treating, and I was advised to put the screws 0:39:48.615 --> 0:39:52.455 in the proper screws with brother to get some big 0:39:53.095 --> 0:39:55.695 get some big washes that you buy that go around 0:39:55.735 --> 0:40:00.615 them to increase the area. Ye, what do we how 0:40:00.655 --> 0:40:04.815 do we treat that? Okay, I can divert the water 0:40:04.975 --> 0:40:06.815 off the roof for a while enough. 0:40:07.015 --> 0:40:10.415 Yeah sure, yeah, that's what shape. 0:40:11.495 --> 0:40:15.295 Okay, Look, I think the idea would be I agree 0:40:15.335 --> 0:40:17.975 with you pulling the old lead heads out. And there's 0:40:18.015 --> 0:40:19.935 a bit of a trick to doing that without damaging 0:40:20.015 --> 0:40:22.175 the corrigo die. So if you can take the lead 0:40:22.215 --> 0:40:24.135 heads out, and ideally you want to try and pull 0:40:24.215 --> 0:40:27.615 those out as straight up as possible, right so that 0:40:27.815 --> 0:40:30.695 stops it making a bigger hole through the top of 0:40:30.735 --> 0:40:33.815 the corrugate. So get the lead heads out. In most 0:40:33.935 --> 0:40:36.135 cases you'll find that if you get them out neatly, 0:40:36.455 --> 0:40:39.375 the screw that you use with a neoprene washer on 0:40:39.455 --> 0:40:41.735 it will be enough to cover the hole. And in 0:40:41.855 --> 0:40:44.695 the occasional one where it doesn't, I would you could 0:40:44.695 --> 0:40:46.895 add a larger washer if you want to, or just 0:40:46.975 --> 0:40:49.735 put a dob of silicon in there. When you've pulled 0:40:49.735 --> 0:40:51.935 the nail out I would be inclined to treat the 0:40:52.015 --> 0:40:55.575 area with a bit of rust converter and then some 0:40:55.895 --> 0:40:59.295 russ killed primer, and then eventually you'll put a new 0:40:59.335 --> 0:41:03.015 acrylic coat over the top. It's job done, So that's 0:41:03.055 --> 0:41:05.815 how I would approach it. But the key is getting 0:41:05.855 --> 0:41:08.815 the nail out straight up and not making that whole 0:41:08.895 --> 0:41:11.775 much bigger radio. Thanks for that, Gerald, all the very best. 0:41:11.895 --> 0:41:15.135 We are back straight after news, sport and weather measure 0:41:15.175 --> 0:41:19.135 twice God was but maybe called Pete first video WOLFCAF 0:41:19.335 --> 0:41:25.455 the resident builder news talk, sa'd be radio. That must 0:41:25.495 --> 0:41:27.775 be my turn. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:41:27.935 --> 0:41:31.095 is the number to call. I don't know why someone's 0:41:31.095 --> 0:41:32.775 texting me about the All Blacks, but. 0:41:32.895 --> 0:41:34.335 Hey, um. 0:41:36.415 --> 0:41:39.935 Can Oh here's sorry, just a completely random text. This's fascinating. 0:41:40.255 --> 0:41:42.855 Can you recommend a silicon spray to squirt on galvanized 0:41:42.895 --> 0:41:46.335 chicken wire prevent to that is, preventing the starlings from 0:41:46.415 --> 0:41:48.655 nesting in the corners of the spouting and under the eaves. 0:41:48.695 --> 0:41:52.255 The chicken wire will eventually rust being near the coast, 0:41:52.295 --> 0:41:54.095 but we want to slow it down if possible. The 0:41:54.175 --> 0:41:56.575 roof and spouting a powder coated metal and are seven 0:41:56.655 --> 0:41:59.255 years old. Okay, that's not where I thought it was 0:41:59.295 --> 0:42:01.415 going to go. I would suggest that you rip out 0:42:01.535 --> 0:42:07.135 that galvanized chicken wire and replace it with plastics, right, 0:42:07.855 --> 0:42:11.335 because that won't rust and almost anything that you could 0:42:11.335 --> 0:42:13.175 spray on, you're still going to miss a spot and 0:42:13.295 --> 0:42:14.175 you're going to get the rust. 0:42:14.215 --> 0:42:14.695 So I do that. 0:42:15.735 --> 0:42:17.455 The reason that I perked up with that one is 0:42:18.855 --> 0:42:21.415 a place that I look after suddenly has had birds 0:42:21.535 --> 0:42:25.295 roosting in the veranda roof. And the reason I know 0:42:25.375 --> 0:42:28.175 that is because there's droppings all over the veranda and 0:42:28.255 --> 0:42:30.375 the handrail. And I was there the other day and 0:42:30.455 --> 0:42:32.175 I washed all of that down and I went back 0:42:32.175 --> 0:42:34.295 a couple of days later and it's all covered in 0:42:34.335 --> 0:42:37.455 bird pil again. So I'm going to try I've never 0:42:37.535 --> 0:42:40.575 tried the stuff before, the sort of no bird's gel 0:42:40.895 --> 0:42:44.175 that you can squirt into these areas and it dissuades 0:42:44.255 --> 0:42:46.655 them from hanging around there. But I've got to wash 0:42:46.695 --> 0:42:49.735 it first. So that means today possibly I'll go and 0:42:49.815 --> 0:42:52.535 do some water blasting, ah, clean all that up, and 0:42:52.615 --> 0:42:54.975 then apply that gel. If you've had luck with the 0:42:55.175 --> 0:42:59.575 gel and you've got a moment, just let me quick 0:42:59.655 --> 0:43:02.655 Text nine to two. Does it actually work? Oh wait, 0:43:02.655 --> 0:43:05.375 one hundred and eighty ten eighty, let's get amongst the calls, 0:43:05.415 --> 0:43:07.815 the conversation, Judy, good morning to you. 0:43:09.575 --> 0:43:10.335 Hi there people. 0:43:12.295 --> 0:43:16.735 I just need some advice. I've got a unit, it's 0:43:17.215 --> 0:43:20.895 a cross cross lease, and I need some advice on 0:43:21.015 --> 0:43:25.055 a party wall. The next door neighbors have placed their 0:43:25.215 --> 0:43:30.255 garden on this party wall, and I'm finding there's mold 0:43:30.655 --> 0:43:32.615 coming through into my bedroom. 0:43:32.975 --> 0:43:33.135 Yep. 0:43:34.295 --> 0:43:35.255 Is this the cause? 0:43:35.375 --> 0:43:36.055 Do you think. 0:43:37.495 --> 0:43:40.215 Possibly? When you say they've placed the garden against it, 0:43:40.335 --> 0:43:42.415 have they like built a planter box and then filled 0:43:42.455 --> 0:43:45.255 it with soil and that's against the cladding above the 0:43:45.375 --> 0:43:45.975 floor level. 0:43:47.295 --> 0:43:52.175 No, it's it's two units. My unit that's lower than 0:43:52.255 --> 0:43:56.135 their unit, and I've put a fence in between the 0:43:56.215 --> 0:43:59.575 two units. If you can sort of get the idea 0:43:59.895 --> 0:44:05.375 and dub that filled all their section up against the 0:44:05.495 --> 0:44:08.855 party wall. So it's probably about four feet deep. 0:44:10.775 --> 0:44:14.775 And the party wall that you describe, is that part 0:44:14.855 --> 0:44:18.535 of that is exterior and it backs onto your habitable space. 0:44:19.455 --> 0:44:20.175 Yes, that's right. 0:44:20.655 --> 0:44:23.295 And then they've backfilled against that, so there's soil where 0:44:23.335 --> 0:44:28.175 there wasn't soil before. Yes, And the leaking has come 0:44:28.255 --> 0:44:29.935 about after they've done that. 0:44:31.095 --> 0:44:31.575 I think. 0:44:31.735 --> 0:44:37.135 So it happened before I actually came here. I haven't 0:44:37.255 --> 0:44:42.855 noticed it until probably a couple of years, and now 0:44:43.055 --> 0:44:46.175 that is causing a lot of Well, I think it 0:44:46.335 --> 0:44:49.615 is there's mold in that corner where the party wall is. 0:44:51.415 --> 0:44:54.935 I think it's not an unreasonable assumption to make. I mean, 0:44:54.975 --> 0:44:58.135 if the building when it was designed had you know, 0:44:58.295 --> 0:45:00.575 the wall was there and lots of fresh air on 0:45:00.575 --> 0:45:03.935 one side of it, and now there isn't any fresh 0:45:03.975 --> 0:45:06.055 air and there's lots of soil pushed up against it, 0:45:06.455 --> 0:45:10.175 is going to hold moisture. And if there was either 0:45:10.335 --> 0:45:14.055 no or inadequate waterproofing against that wall, then yes, you 0:45:14.095 --> 0:45:16.255 can imagine the water is held there by the soil 0:45:16.335 --> 0:45:20.255 it's being deposited, and then that's literally just soaking through 0:45:20.335 --> 0:45:22.895 the block work and then it will saturate the space, 0:45:22.975 --> 0:45:25.855 and even if it's not a leak, it will introduce 0:45:25.935 --> 0:45:28.495 so much moisture that it will give the right conditions 0:45:28.575 --> 0:45:31.615 for mold to grow. So I think you're probably onto 0:45:31.695 --> 0:45:39.495 something given that it's a cross lease title, unless in 0:45:39.735 --> 0:45:42.735 the cross lease agreement there is such a thing as 0:45:42.935 --> 0:45:48.575 exclusive rights to a certain area. Yes, there is, ah Okay, 0:45:48.855 --> 0:45:52.175 that's interesting. I'm just wondering whether that might mean that 0:45:52.295 --> 0:45:55.655 it's a little bit more challenging for you to intervene 0:45:55.695 --> 0:45:57.735 and to go to the neighbor and say, look, I 0:45:57.855 --> 0:46:00.575 need you to remove this because it's causing issues with 0:46:00.735 --> 0:46:01.535 my building. 0:46:02.695 --> 0:46:06.895 Yes, the exclusive rights are that I can actually go 0:46:07.135 --> 0:46:09.535 on to their property on that side and they can 0:46:09.615 --> 0:46:12.175 come onto mine. But now there's a fence in between 0:46:12.255 --> 0:46:16.855 the two and the back filled the garden. That can't happen, right, 0:46:17.975 --> 0:46:20.575 Not that I want to anyway, but I just know 0:46:20.735 --> 0:46:23.775 what it is I can do to get this removed 0:46:23.815 --> 0:46:24.815 off the party wall. 0:46:25.255 --> 0:46:28.175 Look, I think from what you have described, it's not 0:46:29.415 --> 0:46:33.815 unreasonable to say, hey, look, particularly if your floor level 0:46:33.975 --> 0:46:37.175 is lower than the ground level that they've created. It 0:46:37.375 --> 0:46:40.215 wasn't the original ground level. They've created it by backfilling it, 0:46:40.815 --> 0:46:43.655 and they've put soil up against what's the wall. Is 0:46:43.695 --> 0:46:46.295 it just a concrete block wall, standard concrete block wall. 0:46:46.775 --> 0:46:50.255 Yeah, it's the nineteen seventies units that's got there, just 0:46:50.335 --> 0:46:51.055 the block wall. 0:46:51.375 --> 0:46:51.575 Yeah. 0:46:51.735 --> 0:46:54.655 And so there's no waterproofing membrane against that block wall. 0:46:54.695 --> 0:46:57.455 There's probably no drainage at the bottom of that block wall. 0:46:58.295 --> 0:46:58.975 That's correct. 0:46:59.135 --> 0:47:02.175 Yeah, Okay, look, I think that's most likely the cause. 0:47:04.015 --> 0:47:10.295 So I mean, theoretically they could excavate all of that 0:47:10.455 --> 0:47:16.335 material out, thoroughly waterproof the wall, add drainage, and backfill 0:47:16.415 --> 0:47:18.975 it and not have that cause a problem to you. 0:47:19.935 --> 0:47:22.335 I have asked them, and I have got quotes which 0:47:22.335 --> 0:47:25.335 I've given them. Of course they are refusing to pay, 0:47:25.935 --> 0:47:26.855 but I just point of. 0:47:26.895 --> 0:47:28.375 What my rights are. 0:47:30.215 --> 0:47:33.135 I think the strongest point would be that when the 0:47:33.215 --> 0:47:37.295 building was constructed, the ground level was lower, and that 0:47:37.415 --> 0:47:40.455 they have altered or someone has altered, whether it was 0:47:40.535 --> 0:47:43.215 their or the previous owner, it kind of doesn't matter. 0:47:43.415 --> 0:47:47.575 It's their responsibility. I think that he was never intended 0:47:47.615 --> 0:47:50.495 to be a retaining wall, which is what it's become. Right, 0:47:51.095 --> 0:47:53.415 So a block wall is a block wall, and a 0:47:53.495 --> 0:47:55.575 retaining wall might be made out of block, but it 0:47:55.655 --> 0:47:59.375 doesn't make it a retaining wall. And because it was 0:47:59.495 --> 0:48:03.615 never designed to be a retaining wall, it's causing moisture 0:48:03.775 --> 0:48:08.375 or moisture is accumulating there, and so I think I 0:48:08.455 --> 0:48:10.295 would think that you do have a right to say 0:48:10.415 --> 0:48:13.295 it needs to be removed because it was not there originally, 0:48:13.495 --> 0:48:17.455 and by making a change and not allowing for drainage 0:48:17.455 --> 0:48:23.975 and waterproofing. Your building is suffering as a result, it is. 0:48:24.295 --> 0:48:26.375 How can I enforce that If they're not willing to 0:48:26.455 --> 0:48:27.735 actually do anything. 0:48:28.735 --> 0:48:32.895 I suspect it becomes a matter for lawyers in terms 0:48:32.935 --> 0:48:35.455 of enforcing your rights under the Property Act. 0:48:36.895 --> 0:48:41.015 Okay, yeah, all right, So you just think I need 0:48:41.095 --> 0:48:43.855 to go forward with a lawyer to actually get this. 0:48:44.135 --> 0:48:50.135 I think if they're going to be unreasonable, then yes, probably. Okay, 0:48:51.015 --> 0:48:52.655 you've got to do something that's enforceable. 0:48:53.575 --> 0:48:54.295 Yes, that's right. 0:48:55.415 --> 0:48:57.135 Okay, sorry to hear that. 0:48:57.935 --> 0:48:59.055 Yeah, it's a bad one, but. 0:49:00.415 --> 0:49:02.335 I think you're on the right track. Good luck with that. 0:49:03.815 --> 0:49:06.135 Take care of all of this study, Bye bye. Actually 0:49:06.415 --> 0:49:10.935 talking about cross leases next week on the program, Ben Thompson, 0:49:10.975 --> 0:49:13.655 who is a lawyer who specializes in cross lease. And 0:49:13.695 --> 0:49:17.615 when I say specializes, like when I talked to him 0:49:17.615 --> 0:49:19.295 a little while ago before he came on the show 0:49:19.295 --> 0:49:22.655 a couple of weeks months ago, he'd just been presenting 0:49:22.735 --> 0:49:25.815 to the Law Society about cross leases. Anyway, we had 0:49:25.815 --> 0:49:28.335 a great session with him last time he was on, 0:49:28.655 --> 0:49:30.895 and I've reached out to him to say, look, could 0:49:30.935 --> 0:49:33.135 you join us again next Sunday on the program, so 0:49:33.255 --> 0:49:37.295 after eight o'clock next week and can we take some questions. 0:49:37.495 --> 0:49:41.415 So next week, if you've got a specific question about 0:49:41.575 --> 0:49:45.335 cross leases, we can get some answers from a lawyer 0:49:45.335 --> 0:49:47.535 who specializes, and that Ben will be with me on 0:49:47.655 --> 0:49:50.775 the show next Sunday. Really looking forward to that. Coming 0:49:50.855 --> 0:49:54.215 upteen minutes after seven round quarter to eight, we're going 0:49:54.295 --> 0:49:59.135 to catch up with Mike Olds from Razine Construction. Good 0:49:59.215 --> 0:50:03.135 timing because earlier this week, I think it was it 0:50:03.215 --> 0:50:05.775 was Wednesday morning and I was at my desk doing 0:50:05.775 --> 0:50:07.455 I've got a pap work in the phone rings and 0:50:07.495 --> 0:50:10.375 it was like a number that i'd recognize, and the 0:50:10.415 --> 0:50:12.535 guy goes, oh, hi, it's I won't say his name, 0:50:13.535 --> 0:50:16.455 and I thought I would reach out because I listened 0:50:16.455 --> 0:50:20.495 to the show, and I'm like, okay, just to be blunt, 0:50:20.575 --> 0:50:23.855 my number is not easy to find for a reason. Anyway, 0:50:24.295 --> 0:50:27.295 he called and said, look, I'm interested in a property 0:50:27.895 --> 0:50:29.775 that's up for sale and it's got rock coat on 0:50:30.055 --> 0:50:34.535 the exterior, which is a Razine Construction system's render on 0:50:34.655 --> 0:50:36.895 the exterior. Can you tell me much about it? And 0:50:36.935 --> 0:50:39.535 I said, well, look, yeah, I think so because these 0:50:39.615 --> 0:50:42.015 things have got records, right, because I know the people 0:50:42.255 --> 0:50:45.775 at Razine Construction, and they'll probably have some records of 0:50:45.815 --> 0:50:49.895 the job. It's a two thy twelve constructed house by 0:50:49.975 --> 0:50:54.495 well known builder in a relatively new subdivision. So I 0:50:54.615 --> 0:50:59.335 contacted the mic at Razine Construction, said, look, this chepie's 0:50:59.535 --> 0:51:01.735 phoned me and I'll help him out. Can you have 0:51:01.815 --> 0:51:04.655 a look on your records, and within minutes he was 0:51:04.735 --> 0:51:07.935 able to bring up who the contractor was when the 0:51:08.055 --> 0:51:11.735 job was done, what the building consent was records of 0:51:11.855 --> 0:51:14.455 all of the inspections done not by counsel but by 0:51:14.575 --> 0:51:18.095 their own team, right, so their own people go and 0:51:18.295 --> 0:51:22.655 inspect the work, Photographs of it under construction, so showing 0:51:22.735 --> 0:51:27.335 the fixing, showing the flashings, showing the sealant, showing ground clearances, 0:51:27.615 --> 0:51:30.815 showing the ventilation, all of that sort of thing, and 0:51:30.935 --> 0:51:33.095 then a certificate to say that the building has been 0:51:33.175 --> 0:51:36.455 completed and all of that is kept. And what really 0:51:36.495 --> 0:51:39.615 impressed me about that is I'm struggling to think of 0:51:39.695 --> 0:51:44.655 another cladding system in the country that would have that 0:51:44.815 --> 0:51:48.655 level of detail about it. And if we're moving towards 0:51:48.695 --> 0:51:51.215 self certification, if we're moving towards being able to build 0:51:51.215 --> 0:51:55.015 Grannie flats without having council do the inspections. I think 0:51:55.175 --> 0:51:58.575 that's an example of what companies should be providing if 0:51:58.655 --> 0:52:01.015 your product's going to be used in a situation where 0:52:01.055 --> 0:52:04.655 it doesn't get or doesn't require a building consent. Takes 0:52:04.695 --> 0:52:05.535 some comments on that too. 0:52:06.335 --> 0:52:08.455 Morning to you, sir, Good morning. 0:52:08.535 --> 0:52:09.655 How are you good, buddy? 0:52:09.695 --> 0:52:11.175 In yourself good? 0:52:11.375 --> 0:52:14.815 I've been the last few wns. I've been running around 0:52:14.895 --> 0:52:19.975 the city in him open here looking for stuff to pull. 0:52:21.295 --> 0:52:27.255 We've got going to put in this plank flooring, and 0:52:28.055 --> 0:52:30.175 the hyprin one we're going to. 0:52:30.215 --> 0:52:30.975 Put in, and. 0:52:32.615 --> 0:52:38.575 Some of the floorboards. The flooring in the kitchen is 0:52:38.975 --> 0:52:41.775 just flaking air that chipboard. 0:52:41.855 --> 0:52:42.215 When you. 0:52:43.975 --> 0:52:49.135 And I've been eblewhere to get this something to level 0:52:49.215 --> 0:52:54.095 the floor off? I asked him about you know this 0:52:55.175 --> 0:53:01.815 floor leveler, and I can't use it on wooden floors, 0:53:02.295 --> 0:53:04.975 don't matter which one it is, the multi purpose one 0:53:05.015 --> 0:53:08.535 of that do if you can't use them on wooden fools. 0:53:09.255 --> 0:53:13.255 So I want to use the build this book for 0:53:14.095 --> 0:53:15.615 Can I use that instead? 0:53:18.135 --> 0:53:20.175 I think, well, I suppose one of the concerns is 0:53:20.255 --> 0:53:22.855 that nothing It's it's going to be really hard for 0:53:22.975 --> 0:53:27.215 something to stick to the timber floor, right, it won't 0:53:27.375 --> 0:53:31.575 bond and then potentially you put your new laminate floor, 0:53:31.615 --> 0:53:34.535 your hybrid floor over the top, and then the material 0:53:34.655 --> 0:53:38.495 underneath that you've used for leveling delaminates and starts to rumble, 0:53:38.775 --> 0:53:49.615 right that that's what the concern would be. I I'm 0:53:49.655 --> 0:53:53.735 wondering whether, like how how out of level is it? 0:53:55.735 --> 0:53:56.415 What would say. 0:53:58.815 --> 0:54:00.375 How out of level is the floor? 0:54:01.095 --> 0:54:05.735 Like obviously having all but there's just a few dips, 0:54:05.815 --> 0:54:09.335 you know, it's the chip board is coming out, you know, 0:54:10.895 --> 0:54:16.055 faking then yeah, sure, and we're going to put that 0:54:16.935 --> 0:54:20.775 underfilled under rod as well, because quite but one's got 0:54:20.815 --> 0:54:24.775 that rubbish stuff underneath on it or really and we're 0:54:24.815 --> 0:54:26.775 going to put that in the kitchen? 0:54:27.095 --> 0:54:29.015 Yeah, sure, we're going to. 0:54:29.055 --> 0:54:30.255 Put that kind fill. 0:54:30.935 --> 0:54:35.775 I wonder whether you know this is your house right 0:54:36.335 --> 0:54:39.495 that you're doing it, So let's say it doesn't work, 0:54:40.615 --> 0:54:45.255 it's only you to blame, Okay. So I'm just looking 0:54:45.255 --> 0:54:49.375 at this like, if you're working for someone, you'd arguably 0:54:49.415 --> 0:54:51.335 want to do it absolutely right because you don't want 0:54:51.375 --> 0:54:53.415 to someone to call it up and say it didn't work. 0:54:53.455 --> 0:54:57.175 But in this instance, because if you're skimming I don't know, 0:54:57.255 --> 0:55:00.175 five or six millimeters of if LC over the top 0:55:00.255 --> 0:55:02.575 of that. What you might look for is to see 0:55:02.615 --> 0:55:05.375 whether there's like a primer and adhesion primer that you 0:55:05.455 --> 0:55:08.175 could apply to the particle board that will help the 0:55:08.375 --> 0:55:11.735 floor leveling compound to bind to it. I'll be interest 0:55:12.335 --> 0:55:15.495 because I do know a couple of flooring guys who 0:55:15.615 --> 0:55:19.255 might have a product that will stick to timber, and 0:55:19.495 --> 0:55:24.255 possibly the laminate or the hybrid flooring manufacturer or supplier 0:55:24.695 --> 0:55:26.575 might be able to recommend because it can't be an 0:55:26.695 --> 0:55:29.575 uncommon problem, right, Timber floors can be as out of 0:55:29.695 --> 0:55:34.215 levels as a concrete slab, so there may well be 0:55:34.295 --> 0:55:37.255 a product product If there isn't and you used FLC 0:55:37.575 --> 0:55:41.255 and you used it sparingly and only the worst few areas, 0:55:42.015 --> 0:55:45.735 if there was a problem with it later on, well yeah, I've. 0:55:45.655 --> 0:55:51.655 Been aund everywhere and a wrong m Yeah, we've got it. 0:55:51.855 --> 0:55:57.655 You know, a multipurpose one. Windy at the Nakoy had 0:55:57.695 --> 0:56:00.415 a look on the computer and said it said, no, 0:56:00.575 --> 0:56:07.015 it can't be used on board warden flooring, So why 0:56:07.215 --> 0:56:10.255 use a multi purpose? One will make a multi that's right. 0:56:11.735 --> 0:56:12.495 If it's only. 0:56:19.255 --> 0:56:21.575 Must papers means you can use it anyway. 0:56:26.215 --> 0:56:26.615 I mean. 0:56:28.895 --> 0:56:30.535 Yeah, So. 0:56:32.015 --> 0:56:32.415 And there we go. 0:56:33.655 --> 0:56:36.055 Here we go rd X K sixty five. 0:56:37.855 --> 0:56:39.695 R X A r D e x. 0:56:41.455 --> 0:56:46.815 Oh, yeah, formulated to adhere to timber and flexible enough 0:56:46.855 --> 0:56:50.255 to accommodate timber movement. You do a primer and then 0:56:50.335 --> 0:56:53.215 you do an Ardix floor leveling compound. There you go, 0:56:53.575 --> 0:56:54.295 problem solved. 0:56:55.215 --> 0:56:58.775 Ardix A R D e x who makes it? 0:56:59.215 --> 0:57:00.855 Ardix do that's the company? 0:57:01.295 --> 0:57:05.895 So A R D e X O A d X. 0:57:06.415 --> 0:57:06.615 Yeah. 0:57:07.575 --> 0:57:12.175 Well, just just jump online see if you can find 0:57:12.335 --> 0:57:14.775 a local supply. It might be a specialist store, it 0:57:14.855 --> 0:57:20.215 might be a tiling shop or possibly just sooner you're called. 0:57:20.295 --> 0:57:22.735 I've been to all those places, you know they deal 0:57:22.815 --> 0:57:24.495 and floor and they can tell me. 0:57:24.895 --> 0:57:28.495 Yeah, no, look Ardis, I mean I know the brand. 0:57:28.535 --> 0:57:31.415 I've used their products over the years. Just get in 0:57:31.455 --> 0:57:35.055 contact with them and and it's a Ardix K sixty 0:57:35.175 --> 0:57:39.135 five will probably help you out there, all right, make 0:57:39.215 --> 0:57:42.855 all the very best problem take care about it. Take care, 0:57:43.255 --> 0:57:45.255 uh andy, just hold the line, but it will come 0:57:45.335 --> 0:57:48.735 to you in just a moment. It is twenty three 0:57:48.815 --> 0:57:50.055 minutes after seven. 0:57:50.655 --> 0:57:53.575 Doing other house storting. The garden asked Pete for ahead. 0:57:53.855 --> 0:58:00.815 The resident builder with Peter Wolfkere calls you and a. 0:58:00.855 --> 0:58:05.335 Couple of texts as well a craggy This is frustrating. Hey, pek, 0:58:05.375 --> 0:58:09.175 my neighbor has dire did new spouting from the three 0:58:09.255 --> 0:58:12.135 story townhouse or three story house onto the carport roof 0:58:12.215 --> 0:58:14.295 onto the lawn into a ditch that he dug next 0:58:14.335 --> 0:58:18.015 to our joint fence. The paving area is gushing rain 0:58:18.095 --> 0:58:21.895 water from the carports, spouting lawn floods next to this 0:58:22.095 --> 0:58:24.495 joint fence, So the fence between the two properties where 0:58:24.495 --> 0:58:26.695 he's dug a ditch for the spouting water from his roof. 0:58:27.335 --> 0:58:29.495 I've spoken to him many times for quite a while now, 0:58:29.495 --> 0:58:32.695 and he does nothing. I told the Wellington Council and 0:58:32.775 --> 0:58:35.055 they've told me it's a civil matter and I'll need 0:58:35.135 --> 0:58:37.335 to take him to the tribunal or to court. I 0:58:37.415 --> 0:58:41.735 can't afford that I agree with your sentiments. I mean, 0:58:42.055 --> 0:58:44.255 the fact is the neighbor needs to control the stormwater 0:58:44.375 --> 0:58:47.455 right and it's absolutely their responsibility and obligation to do 0:58:47.575 --> 0:58:52.135 exactly that in terms of enforcing it. If the building 0:58:53.815 --> 0:58:58.175 is older and might not have a building consent, then 0:58:58.615 --> 0:59:00.855 it's hard to go back to the council and go hey, 0:59:00.895 --> 0:59:03.535 look it's a problem with the building consent. The conditions 0:59:03.535 --> 0:59:07.135 of the building consent haven't been met, so I'd look 0:59:07.175 --> 0:59:10.815 into that first. Actually, is it relatively new? Does it 0:59:10.895 --> 0:59:13.815 have a building consent? The building consent will detail how 0:59:14.415 --> 0:59:19.695 the storm water is mitigated or controlled, and if they 0:59:19.735 --> 0:59:24.615 haven't done those controls then it is a council issue. Thereafter, Yeah, 0:59:24.655 --> 0:59:27.495 you probably have to go to the tribunal, but getting 0:59:27.575 --> 0:59:30.535 enforcement on that sort of thing is difficult and if 0:59:30.575 --> 0:59:33.495 people don't want to do the right thing. Interestingly enough, though, 0:59:33.575 --> 0:59:39.735 I'm just thinking about this water care in Auckland, who 0:59:39.775 --> 0:59:41.215 to be blunts seemed to be doing a hell of 0:59:41.255 --> 0:59:45.935 a lot better job than Wellington Water does have actually 0:59:46.175 --> 0:59:50.055 taken the initiative of sending people out to pick up 0:59:50.135 --> 0:59:53.255 on these sorts of things. So a downpipe that discharges 0:59:53.415 --> 0:59:57.375 onto the ground or onto a pathway with no obvious controls, 0:59:58.335 --> 1:00:00.815 they'll literally go up, knock on the door and go, hey, 1:00:01.335 --> 1:00:02.935 we've noticed that you're going to have a bit of 1:00:02.975 --> 1:00:05.695 a problem here, or even if you don't, your neighbors 1:00:05.775 --> 1:00:08.895 probably will. What are you going to do about it? 1:00:09.175 --> 1:00:11.735 So they're being proactive, which I think is great to 1:00:11.815 --> 1:00:15.455 be fair, because you know, in these times, with the 1:00:15.535 --> 1:00:19.375 amount of water that we're getting. It's increasingly a problem 1:00:19.455 --> 1:00:23.455 if you and I, as individual homeowners don't take responsibility 1:00:23.535 --> 1:00:26.935 for the water that we are collecting. Oh eight one 1:00:26.975 --> 1:00:28.855 hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call glen us. 1:00:28.895 --> 1:00:31.735 Hello, Oh how are you? I've lost my boys? 1:00:31.815 --> 1:00:35.375 Sorry, I'm sure sure you found it again just a 1:00:35.415 --> 1:00:35.815 little bit. 1:00:37.175 --> 1:00:39.975 And my birthday to day too, so that's oh, happy birthday. 1:00:40.375 --> 1:00:43.455 I know what a data happen in. I've got a 1:00:43.535 --> 1:00:46.655 Healthy homes form sure. In two thousand and nine, they 1:00:46.815 --> 1:00:50.815 insulated this seading with fluff. The thickness is two point 1:00:50.975 --> 1:00:55.735 nine and it's got pulleys to acrylic carpet on the floor. 1:00:55.815 --> 1:00:58.615 You can't go under the house, and that is one 1:00:58.735 --> 1:01:03.855 point one point three meters. Now this carpet on the 1:01:03.895 --> 1:01:06.015 floor is and he's sitting on the concrete on the 1:01:06.135 --> 1:01:09.175 concrete underneath. Because I've got an open planned lounge and 1:01:09.295 --> 1:01:13.055 kitchen here upstairs, there's a got a fan heater. That said, 1:01:13.375 --> 1:01:15.775 my bedroom's got a heater. The spare room hasn't got 1:01:15.815 --> 1:01:18.695 a heater. They put like a heat pump in, but 1:01:18.815 --> 1:01:21.095 it's got air conditioner written on it right by the 1:01:21.175 --> 1:01:25.175 front door. Basically, the house is still cold. It's pubably 1:01:25.175 --> 1:01:29.095 because it's concrete. I'm not used to concrete houses. Now, 1:01:29.135 --> 1:01:32.695 my power was rising up like a warmer than what 1:01:32.815 --> 1:01:35.855 the house is at the moment. I don't know what 1:01:36.055 --> 1:01:40.895 to do. It's more's paying power for nothing, you know. 1:01:42.255 --> 1:01:44.415 Look, this is one of the challenges with the heating 1:01:44.535 --> 1:01:47.655 requirement for the Healthy Home standards is that you know, 1:01:48.135 --> 1:01:52.215 in order to comply, the landlord will need to put 1:01:52.295 --> 1:01:54.655 in a fixed form of heating that can get your 1:01:54.775 --> 1:01:57.935 room to or that the living room only the living room. 1:01:58.255 --> 1:02:00.935 But if the living room has a staircase or is 1:02:01.175 --> 1:02:04.695 open plan, then it ends up being quite a large area. 1:02:06.015 --> 1:02:08.055 To thirty feet long from the front door to the 1:02:08.135 --> 1:02:09.055 ranch ludders here. 1:02:09.495 --> 1:02:11.095 Yeah, but it is the house to story. 1:02:12.055 --> 1:02:14.975 Yeah, it's one of those then no, but joined on 1:02:15.095 --> 1:02:15.535 to people. 1:02:15.735 --> 1:02:17.895 Yeah, but then see for that. If you're doing a 1:02:17.975 --> 1:02:21.175 Healthy Homes assessment on the heating, you need to calculate 1:02:21.255 --> 1:02:24.055 the floor space of the living area, and if that 1:02:24.215 --> 1:02:26.455 includes the dining area in the kitchen, that's got to 1:02:26.495 --> 1:02:29.535 be included in it. And then because it's open plan 1:02:29.815 --> 1:02:32.615 with a staircase, you have to calculate the space of 1:02:32.695 --> 1:02:36.135 the staircase and the upstairs landing until you get to 1:02:36.255 --> 1:02:38.815 the doors right to any of the rooms upstairs, So 1:02:39.415 --> 1:02:41.615 that ends up being quite a large space. If there's 1:02:41.735 --> 1:02:46.735 also relatively low levels of insulation, then what tends to 1:02:46.775 --> 1:02:49.655 happen is your heating requirement will will go up quite 1:02:49.695 --> 1:02:55.535 a lot. So I wonder whether you're the tenant not the. 1:02:57.295 --> 1:02:57.695 Years here. 1:02:57.695 --> 1:02:59.935 Okay, so you're the tenant. So what you could do 1:03:00.135 --> 1:03:04.935 is ask the landlord to provide an updated heating. 1:03:05.295 --> 1:03:08.175 Calculation in front of me at the moment. 1:03:08.335 --> 1:03:10.775 Okay, and what does it give you? 1:03:11.815 --> 1:03:14.135 Nine when they put the insulation in. But this is 1:03:14.615 --> 1:03:17.655 it was stated on the thirties, but the insulation was 1:03:17.695 --> 1:03:20.495 put in on two thousand and nine in the ceiling. 1:03:20.335 --> 1:03:23.415 Which is fine. But remember the Healthy Homes legislation didn't 1:03:23.455 --> 1:03:25.175 exist in two thousand and nine, right. 1:03:25.215 --> 1:03:27.935 So well that's what they've got written down here. Yeah, 1:03:28.135 --> 1:03:31.735 they say it fits regulation to the house. But because 1:03:31.775 --> 1:03:33.815 it's so big, it's probably why it's so cold. 1:03:33.975 --> 1:03:34.135 You know. 1:03:34.935 --> 1:03:38.895 What I suspect is that the if you did a 1:03:39.415 --> 1:03:43.615 proper calculation of the heating requirement, what form of heating 1:03:43.655 --> 1:03:47.455 you've got is probably insufficient and needs to be topped up. 1:03:47.655 --> 1:03:50.455 And that's I think an obligation on the landlord to 1:03:50.575 --> 1:03:53.335 do that in order to stay compliant. 1:03:54.255 --> 1:03:56.495 Yeah, they put the machine of the heat pump in 1:03:56.575 --> 1:03:59.295 the backyard behind me and full of weeds in the garden, 1:03:59.855 --> 1:04:01.735 so having it in the front of the house. They've 1:04:01.775 --> 1:04:03.095 got it at the back of the house. 1:04:03.255 --> 1:04:05.815 But it doesn't really matter where it is as long 1:04:05.855 --> 1:04:09.455 as Yeah, but they do need to ventilate, so if 1:04:09.455 --> 1:04:11.095 the weeds are growing up in front of it, maybe 1:04:11.135 --> 1:04:14.695 you need to just cut the weeds back a little bit. Yeah, 1:04:15.255 --> 1:04:18.095 all right, So it'll be about the heating requirements, and 1:04:18.455 --> 1:04:20.735 I wonder whether they haven't done a great job of 1:04:20.855 --> 1:04:25.255 the requirements and therefore you're not able to generate the heat. 1:04:25.375 --> 1:04:28.255 The problem is, and this is often talked about I 1:04:28.295 --> 1:04:31.575 guess for tenants and landlords, is you can put the 1:04:31.615 --> 1:04:36.095 heat and requirement in, but to run it requires power. 1:04:36.415 --> 1:04:39.295 Power is expensive, and so people not to run it. 1:04:40.055 --> 1:04:41.415 So you can put it in and people won't turn 1:04:41.455 --> 1:04:46.175 it on. That's what happens too. Robin, greetings to you, 1:04:47.335 --> 1:04:48.975 Good morning, Good morning, Robin. 1:04:50.575 --> 1:04:54.975 I've got a query regarding the insulation of my house, 1:04:55.295 --> 1:04:59.975 sure which I bought in nineteen eighty six, and it 1:05:00.095 --> 1:05:05.735 was the nineteen seventy five brickhouse New World at the time. 1:05:06.375 --> 1:05:06.535 Yep. 1:05:06.735 --> 1:05:12.455 And the insulation of pink bats, which has been very good. 1:05:13.175 --> 1:05:18.495 Now I'm just wondering whether there's any point in putting 1:05:19.135 --> 1:05:23.055 a loose layer of a number of more pink bats 1:05:23.375 --> 1:05:28.215 over the top. I have got two heat pumps, one 1:05:28.295 --> 1:05:33.855 in the lounge and one up the front hall, which 1:05:33.895 --> 1:05:38.255 are very effective. No problem with those, but I'm just 1:05:38.415 --> 1:05:43.375 wondering whether I go to the expense of putting. 1:05:43.495 --> 1:05:45.255 More insulation into the roof. 1:05:45.895 --> 1:05:47.015 That's the roof. 1:05:47.415 --> 1:05:51.295 I would heartily recommend that you do exactly that. So 1:05:51.535 --> 1:05:55.255 if the insulation was installed all those years ago, and 1:05:55.695 --> 1:05:58.695 the pink bats and it's nothing. It's not derogatory about 1:05:58.695 --> 1:06:02.655 the pink bats, but they do sag over time. They settle, right, 1:06:03.175 --> 1:06:07.575 so the actual insulation value decreases over time. Because they settle, 1:06:07.695 --> 1:06:10.295 they don't have as much loft. So leave it in 1:06:10.375 --> 1:06:15.015 there and get an insulation installer to do another layer 1:06:15.255 --> 1:06:18.655 of insulation over the top of it, and ideally over 1:06:18.735 --> 1:06:20.735 the top of all of the timber that's in there, 1:06:20.855 --> 1:06:24.655 so the bottom court of the trusses and as far 1:06:24.855 --> 1:06:27.775 out to the top plate around the perimeter as they 1:06:27.855 --> 1:06:31.695 possibly can do have that installed. That will make a 1:06:31.895 --> 1:06:37.255 significant difference to keeping the heat into the house. Okay, yep, 1:06:37.495 --> 1:06:38.575 definitely a good idea. 1:06:39.575 --> 1:06:42.015 Alrighty all, bestie. 1:06:41.735 --> 1:06:42.815 Robin, you take care. 1:06:44.975 --> 1:06:45.215 Bye. 1:06:46.295 --> 1:06:48.575 We'll come back with Jeremy in just a moment. If 1:06:48.575 --> 1:06:50.975 you've got a question, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 1:06:51.015 --> 1:06:51.375 the number. 1:06:51.615 --> 1:06:54.455 Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering 1:06:54.535 --> 1:06:56.615 how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter 1:06:56.695 --> 1:07:01.695 wolf capercall on eighty the resident builder on youth Dogs' 1:07:01.815 --> 1:07:03.655 b Right, Oh. 1:07:03.815 --> 1:07:06.975 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty, then number to call peak 1:07:07.055 --> 1:07:11.495 the coller with the heat pump problem. I'm exactly sure 1:07:11.535 --> 1:07:13.975 whether it is actually a heat pump. Should ask the 1:07:14.055 --> 1:07:16.615 landlord when it was last service, and if she keeps 1:07:16.655 --> 1:07:19.055 the filters clean, that does make a big difference. Yeah, 1:07:19.095 --> 1:07:23.095 you're absolutely right, Michael. It's on my list for a 1:07:23.135 --> 1:07:26.575 couple of places I look after to have the servicing done. 1:07:27.655 --> 1:07:29.615 It'll probably extend the life of the heat pump, and 1:07:29.695 --> 1:07:32.495 certainly they perform a lot better if you clean them 1:07:32.535 --> 1:07:36.455 and look after them. Jeremy, Hello, good morning, Peter. How 1:07:36.495 --> 1:07:38.415 are we very well? What's up? 1:07:38.415 --> 1:07:38.695 Good man? 1:07:38.855 --> 1:07:43.935 Good so at the moment, good rental properly in that. 1:07:44.655 --> 1:07:50.495 Oh and the nineteen sixties build frickin' tile, like really 1:07:50.535 --> 1:07:54.175 good home in general on piles and the back patio. 1:07:55.815 --> 1:08:00.055 It's just like cobbles laid on soil and sand. I've 1:08:00.095 --> 1:08:04.495 been like that for like years, you know, but it 1:08:04.695 --> 1:08:09.215 just it's always so damp and just you know, just wet. 1:08:09.935 --> 1:08:19.895 And so I've hide one of those chained trench and yeah, 1:08:19.935 --> 1:08:27.375 bro and trench the back, the back, the whole in 1:08:27.495 --> 1:08:30.775 for the house at back fence, laid on one ten 1:08:30.935 --> 1:08:37.175 overcall and chucked and some I forget the grade, but 1:08:37.775 --> 1:08:42.135 Scoria basse so about two hundred yeah, about two hundred 1:08:43.255 --> 1:08:46.975 worth a Scoria laid the overcare and then put scorer 1:08:47.055 --> 1:08:52.575 on top. Now there's no suspits or or or drainage 1:08:53.295 --> 1:08:59.055 like that I can feed into. Now, can I obviously 1:08:59.335 --> 1:09:02.415 obviously it's got to have fall, But can I create 1:09:02.655 --> 1:09:08.335 some sort of like scorier kind of kind of drainage 1:09:08.415 --> 1:09:09.175 pit at all? 1:09:09.735 --> 1:09:11.535 I mean, look, I've got to say that the best 1:09:11.575 --> 1:09:14.695 solution would be to try and find stormwater, your own 1:09:14.815 --> 1:09:19.215 storm water and tee into it, which technically I think 1:09:19.295 --> 1:09:21.655 would require it consent but anyway, we'll put that to 1:09:21.735 --> 1:09:24.055 one side for now. So ideally, what you want to 1:09:24.055 --> 1:09:28.175 do is have that drainage coil dropping into a catch pit, 1:09:29.335 --> 1:09:31.695 which will allow the sediment to sink to the bottom 1:09:31.775 --> 1:09:34.175 and only clean water to go into the storm water. 1:09:34.295 --> 1:09:34.415 Light. 1:09:34.895 --> 1:09:38.055 So that's that's your gold plated solution. Let's say you 1:09:38.175 --> 1:09:41.295 can't do that, or it's you know, the stormwater's miles 1:09:41.335 --> 1:09:43.495 away or something like that. I guess what you could 1:09:43.535 --> 1:09:48.615 do is do a soakage pit. I would suggest that 1:09:48.695 --> 1:09:51.095 you try and move that away from the boundary so 1:09:51.215 --> 1:09:54.455 that if it did get inundated, it doesn't impact on 1:09:54.535 --> 1:09:56.415 the neighbor. And we've been talking about that where people 1:09:56.495 --> 1:09:58.975 don't control this stormwater and it impacts the neighbor. So 1:10:00.695 --> 1:10:04.935 and one of the keys to doing those soakage pits 1:10:05.135 --> 1:10:08.535 is to so dig you know, a decent sized hole, 1:10:08.615 --> 1:10:10.735 and we're talking like, you know, met deep met a 1:10:10.815 --> 1:10:13.855 square sort of thing, take all of the material out 1:10:14.175 --> 1:10:19.455 line that with geotextile cloth, right, which is like a 1:10:19.615 --> 1:10:23.495 matting that you'd put under driveways and behind retaining walls 1:10:23.495 --> 1:10:26.415 and those sorts of things, and then fill that with scoria. 1:10:26.575 --> 1:10:29.455 And when I've done them, I actually take like a 1:10:29.535 --> 1:10:32.695 couple of meters of that drainage coil or black snake, 1:10:32.775 --> 1:10:35.495 whatever one you're using, and I loop that in there. 1:10:35.615 --> 1:10:39.015 So I've got like a volume that can't be crushed 1:10:39.135 --> 1:10:42.255 if you imagine, right, Because what typically often happens is 1:10:42.375 --> 1:10:45.335 you'll run your drainage coil into the scoria, but then 1:10:45.375 --> 1:10:47.335 it kind of just hits the scoria, right. What you 1:10:47.455 --> 1:10:50.535 want is for it to have some space to percolate 1:10:50.615 --> 1:10:52.935 out through the scoria. So I do a big loop 1:10:53.775 --> 1:10:57.575 of drainage coil in there and then fill it with scoria, 1:10:58.135 --> 1:11:01.775 fold the bittom cloth or the geotextile cloth over the top, 1:11:01.895 --> 1:11:04.735 and then put your soil back over there. And that 1:11:05.255 --> 1:11:07.575 if you're in the right sort of environment where you 1:11:07.615 --> 1:11:10.615 don't have heavy clays and that sort of thing, the water, 1:11:11.335 --> 1:11:15.095 because you're only collecting groundwater, will drain away and percolate 1:11:15.215 --> 1:11:19.695 back into there. Yeah, but ideally you'd want that to 1:11:19.775 --> 1:11:23.175 be a reasonable way away from the neighbor. And you know, 1:11:23.295 --> 1:11:25.735 if you're really in heavy, heavy clays, then in the 1:11:25.855 --> 1:11:27.415 end the clay is just going to hold it and 1:11:27.495 --> 1:11:30.055 it's going to fill up with water and not actually 1:11:30.135 --> 1:11:32.095 go anywhere. So you've got to be a bit reasonable 1:11:32.095 --> 1:11:33.335 about where you can actually put it. 1:11:34.455 --> 1:11:37.935 Yes, sweet, I mean like it's not like weat weat wheat. 1:11:38.095 --> 1:11:42.215 It's like essentially it's we're actually copecting the drainage from 1:11:42.255 --> 1:11:45.295 the neighbor. So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of 1:11:45.335 --> 1:11:46.655 we just kind of want. 1:11:46.575 --> 1:11:47.375 To dry it out. 1:11:48.735 --> 1:11:51.775 So and look, even the fact that you're collecting some 1:11:51.895 --> 1:11:53.975 of that water and running it through a length of 1:11:54.135 --> 1:11:59.015 the drainage coil will help with the moisture that's held 1:11:59.055 --> 1:12:01.335 in the in the soil around the patio on that 1:12:01.415 --> 1:12:04.335 sort of thing. So just just having the field drains themselves, 1:12:04.415 --> 1:12:06.135 the French drains themselves, will help. 1:12:07.415 --> 1:12:11.335 Yeah, I mean French, it's just right out already, you know. 1:12:12.815 --> 1:12:17.095 So yeah, direck that into a into a soakage pit. 1:12:17.335 --> 1:12:20.215 But the key to the soakage pit is having that 1:12:20.375 --> 1:12:23.495 geotextile cloth. Right, the old ones that I've dug up, 1:12:23.775 --> 1:12:25.655 where they've just dug a hole put scoria in it, 1:12:25.815 --> 1:12:28.175 they end up just filling with sediment and then they 1:12:28.255 --> 1:12:31.135 don't work. So the is the key. 1:12:31.415 --> 1:12:38.335 Yeah, Now, when when when I relay the patio tiles 1:12:38.615 --> 1:12:44.415 like by three two fifty, just old like terracotta looking one. Now, 1:12:44.535 --> 1:12:47.335 can I should I should I run like a sand 1:12:47.455 --> 1:12:53.375 or some sort of like gap over the scoria between 1:12:53.415 --> 1:12:57.575 the cobbles and the soil, or and it'll still. 1:12:57.415 --> 1:13:01.335 Move around a little bit if you can be bothered. 1:13:02.935 --> 1:13:05.735 I would actually do that scene. I'd do a scene 1:13:05.775 --> 1:13:10.135 in cement mix like a slurry. So compact. Yeah, compact 1:13:10.175 --> 1:13:14.415 the base down really well and then literally bed your 1:13:14.935 --> 1:13:19.095 pavers down into a sand and cement mortar bed and 1:13:19.335 --> 1:13:22.135 that will keep it level for a lot longer than 1:13:22.255 --> 1:13:24.415 just putting it down onto the sand over the top 1:13:24.455 --> 1:13:24.935 of the scory. 1:13:25.855 --> 1:13:28.335 Yes, and what the natural is, the natural moisture will 1:13:28.415 --> 1:13:30.935 just harden the cement in the sand and. 1:13:31.415 --> 1:13:33.655 It'll just bond. Or what you can do is do 1:13:33.735 --> 1:13:35.815 the sand and cement and then just before you lay 1:13:35.855 --> 1:13:38.455 the tile, just take a little handful of cement and 1:13:38.655 --> 1:13:41.535 scatter it over the top and you'll see it change 1:13:41.575 --> 1:13:43.575 color because it'll hit the moisture. And then when you 1:13:43.695 --> 1:13:46.335 bed the tile down over the top, it'll it'll help bond. 1:13:47.375 --> 1:13:49.815 Gotcha, what's the ratio to sand cement? 1:13:50.015 --> 1:13:53.495 Six to one six one six scoops of sand one 1:13:53.655 --> 1:13:55.415 of cement. That'll be a nice strong mix. 1:13:55.495 --> 1:13:56.055 And the where you go. 1:13:58.455 --> 1:13:58.815 Take care. 1:13:59.655 --> 1:14:02.335 Actually, that'll that ratio is exactly what I'll be using 1:14:02.375 --> 1:14:05.215 tomorrow when I mix up some concrete for the fence posts. 1:14:05.255 --> 1:14:08.455 So I'm just gonna go. I don't know, the bags 1:14:08.455 --> 1:14:10.295 are great, but I kind of like old school, so 1:14:11.415 --> 1:14:13.815 I'll go and get some builders mix. I'll get a 1:14:13.855 --> 1:14:16.895 bag of cement, the mixer out, or not even the mixer. 1:14:16.975 --> 1:14:18.975 I'll just do it in the wheelbarrow and then six 1:14:19.055 --> 1:14:21.615 to one, nice strong mix, not too much water. 1:14:22.735 --> 1:14:23.095 Bingo. 1:14:23.375 --> 1:14:25.895 Job done. That's tomorrow sorted. Right, We're gonna take a break. 1:14:25.895 --> 1:14:28.535 We're gonna talk to Mike Olds from Razine Construction straight 1:14:28.575 --> 1:14:29.095 after the break. 1:14:29.855 --> 1:14:31.935 Squeaky door or squeaky floor. 1:14:32.175 --> 1:14:35.495 Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder 1:14:35.735 --> 1:14:36.495 on News Talks. 1:14:36.495 --> 1:14:39.895 HEB you and News Talks heb so interesting sort of 1:14:39.935 --> 1:14:44.295 situation for me this week where just doing some paperwork 1:14:44.335 --> 1:14:48.175 at home, phone rings number that I didn't know, not 1:14:48.295 --> 1:14:50.615 a hidden name, but just a number that I didn't know, 1:14:51.735 --> 1:14:56.055 and talk to a delightful gentleman in christ Church who said, look, 1:14:56.335 --> 1:14:59.375 I'm reaching out because I listened to the show. I've 1:14:59.415 --> 1:15:02.375 heard you talk about different claddings and I'm looking at 1:15:02.375 --> 1:15:04.015 a house. In fact, I'm looking at a house that 1:15:04.095 --> 1:15:07.135 I might buy this afternoon. The auctions twelve o'clock. We're 1:15:07.135 --> 1:15:09.855 talking at like eight thirty in the morning. And it's 1:15:09.935 --> 1:15:14.535 got rock coat as the exterior render. Basically all of 1:15:14.575 --> 1:15:17.295 the house bar a little bit of weatherboard, was all 1:15:17.375 --> 1:15:18.975 done with that. Do you know much about it? And 1:15:19.055 --> 1:15:21.695 I said, well, yeah, I do. I know the guys 1:15:21.775 --> 1:15:24.295 quite well. But also if you tell me the address, 1:15:25.575 --> 1:15:29.575 I can go to Razine Construction, who supervise these jobs, 1:15:29.695 --> 1:15:32.335 provide the product, and they've got records of it. And 1:15:32.655 --> 1:15:36.455 so that's exactly what I did, quite genuinely. What I 1:15:36.615 --> 1:15:41.055 was surprised about was the level of detail held by 1:15:41.215 --> 1:15:48.215 the manufacturer, let's say Razine Construction, about each individual job 1:15:48.535 --> 1:15:51.175 that they do. Because the only way you can do 1:15:52.455 --> 1:15:55.975 rock coat is by using a licensed applicator. They then 1:15:56.135 --> 1:16:04.935 have phenomenally detailed processes to record every step of that job. Flashings, installation, 1:16:05.215 --> 1:16:08.455 cavity batons, type for fixings, whether or not they've sealed 1:16:09.015 --> 1:16:11.575 the cuts, all of these sorts of things is all recorded. 1:16:11.655 --> 1:16:14.575 That was all available so I could phone this gentleman 1:16:14.655 --> 1:16:17.735 back later in the day and so, yeah, I've seen 1:16:17.775 --> 1:16:20.255 the records don't have a problem with it. So a 1:16:20.335 --> 1:16:22.815 person who runs all of this is Mike Olds, and Mike, 1:16:22.895 --> 1:16:25.055 thanks for your time on Wednesday, So. 1:16:26.615 --> 1:16:27.335 You know what I was. 1:16:28.935 --> 1:16:31.695 It's not completely surprising, but I was still quite impressed, 1:16:31.735 --> 1:16:34.695 to be honest, about the level of detail that you 1:16:34.855 --> 1:16:38.895 guys at Reseen Construction hold about every single clouding job 1:16:38.975 --> 1:16:41.735 that you do. And this is obviously something that you've 1:16:41.735 --> 1:16:45.495 built up over time. So that's the process, and every 1:16:45.575 --> 1:16:46.935 single job gets recorded. 1:16:48.055 --> 1:16:51.215 Yeah, absolutely, Pete. And it was a sort of perfect 1:16:51.255 --> 1:16:55.735 scenario when the person that contacted you wanted to know 1:16:55.895 --> 1:16:58.415 some information that normally, as I think we spoke the 1:16:58.975 --> 1:17:01.095 vendor would normally have a lot of information. Yeah, for 1:17:01.255 --> 1:17:07.615 potential for our purchases and this particular project in christ Church. Yeah, 1:17:07.695 --> 1:17:10.215 you gave us the address and if it's one of 1:17:10.255 --> 1:17:12.495 our systems. I mean a lot of people, a lot 1:17:12.535 --> 1:17:15.655 of projects would potentially have a specification on a project, 1:17:15.935 --> 1:17:18.615 but sometimes that specification doesn't get achieved. So we do 1:17:18.975 --> 1:17:21.615 we do it again. Pine calls and people saying I've 1:17:21.655 --> 1:17:25.255 got your clouding system on our home, but I want 1:17:25.295 --> 1:17:26.975 to see if it's in the system, and if it's 1:17:26.975 --> 1:17:28.695 not in the system, we can generally say that possibly 1:17:28.775 --> 1:17:31.615 the even the specification has been changed and it's unbeknown 1:17:31.815 --> 1:17:36.935 to the original owners or even potential purchases. But part 1:17:36.975 --> 1:17:40.255 of our process and it started way back and I 1:17:40.335 --> 1:17:43.255 think two thousand and five we really got into this, 1:17:43.855 --> 1:17:49.415 and it involves a substrate review on all residential projects 1:17:50.215 --> 1:17:52.575 where we go and check the cavity bats, the flashings 1:17:52.855 --> 1:17:56.535 and this photographic evidence. There's a checklist that we go 1:17:56.815 --> 1:17:59.215 through and then we go through and do a final 1:17:59.295 --> 1:18:03.055 review in terms of workmanship detailing other sub trades. The 1:18:03.175 --> 1:18:05.455 first one is probably the most important in terms of 1:18:05.495 --> 1:18:08.895 the substrate stall that deals with other sub trades and 1:18:09.295 --> 1:18:14.615 pipe penetrations, electrical penetrations, root flashing connections where we connect 1:18:14.655 --> 1:18:17.495 with other other trades as well. But as you generally 1:18:17.575 --> 1:18:22.015 find where there's connections with other trades, they don't they 1:18:22.095 --> 1:18:24.015 do their trade and we do our trade. That there's 1:18:24.215 --> 1:18:27.175 there is definite crossovers and that's that's some of our 1:18:27.215 --> 1:18:32.095 biggest focus focus areas. But it stays on that file 1:18:32.415 --> 1:18:36.495 on that particular project, goes through for the for the 1:18:36.575 --> 1:18:40.855 life of the project and it's always available. We also 1:18:41.495 --> 1:18:44.135 it also flows through in terms of the warranties, so 1:18:44.295 --> 1:18:49.055 that whole documentation package. Then we send that out to 1:18:49.135 --> 1:18:53.175 the clients. Then in seven seven years we actually touch 1:18:53.255 --> 1:18:56.175 base with that particular residence are known. If it's the 1:18:56.215 --> 1:18:59.295 same home for the original owner, we send them some 1:18:59.455 --> 1:19:05.095 messaging around starting to budget for general maintenance purposes. We're 1:19:05.095 --> 1:19:07.295 looking at repaints and all all that sort of good stuff. 1:19:07.575 --> 1:19:11.055 So we sort of customers for life, is probably the 1:19:11.095 --> 1:19:13.775 best way to describe it. And it gives us because 1:19:13.815 --> 1:19:14.895 you never remember everything. 1:19:15.135 --> 1:19:16.935 You know, you should look back at a job you. 1:19:16.975 --> 1:19:20.535 Did fifteen twenty years ago and trying to recall a 1:19:20.655 --> 1:19:23.295 who did the job, and b what was a color, 1:19:23.335 --> 1:19:25.735 what was the finish, all of those sorts of things 1:19:25.855 --> 1:19:28.815 just coming very very handy down the track, and you've 1:19:28.815 --> 1:19:29.975 got a really really good record. 1:19:30.815 --> 1:19:33.375 And it was the level of detail that in the 1:19:33.535 --> 1:19:37.895 recording that really again really impressed me in the sense 1:19:37.975 --> 1:19:41.575 that you know, there's a tremendous surety for a homeowner 1:19:41.815 --> 1:19:44.175 many years later. So this is a person this house 1:19:44.255 --> 1:19:48.055 was built in twenty twelve, all of those records existed. 1:19:49.175 --> 1:19:52.455 This person's interested to know, you know, who did the work, 1:19:52.735 --> 1:19:55.415 was it done well? Is there a record of the 1:19:55.695 --> 1:19:58.055 actual the installation and you know, how do I know 1:19:58.175 --> 1:20:00.055 that the flashings were installed all of these sorts of 1:20:00.095 --> 1:20:02.495 things and you can find it. And the other thing 1:20:02.575 --> 1:20:04.895 I guess that I'm thinking about is that you know, 1:20:04.975 --> 1:20:07.415 potentially we're going to move to bards, a situation where 1:20:07.495 --> 1:20:11.415 more dwellings can be built without necessarily requiring a council consent. 1:20:11.535 --> 1:20:14.655 Therefore you're not having council inspectors. And if you're going 1:20:14.735 --> 1:20:17.375 to own one of those properties, how do you know 1:20:17.575 --> 1:20:19.615 that the work has been done well? And that level 1:20:19.695 --> 1:20:22.695 of reporting and review is kind of like a template 1:20:22.815 --> 1:20:24.855 for what we might see in the future for all 1:20:24.935 --> 1:20:26.935 sorts of building performance systems. 1:20:28.135 --> 1:20:30.815 Yeah, I absolutely absolutely think this is this is the 1:20:31.215 --> 1:20:34.135 this is the bar for, particularly for supplies and a 1:20:34.375 --> 1:20:37.855 market to go yeah and say this is this is 1:20:37.855 --> 1:20:42.055 the expectation, because I don't think it's reasonable for for 1:20:42.855 --> 1:20:46.655 manufacturers by and large to say we understand that the 1:20:46.815 --> 1:20:49.455 materials have been supplied and installed in accordance, because we 1:20:49.575 --> 1:20:51.455 generally get the first phone call if there is ever 1:20:51.495 --> 1:20:57.335 an issue, and if you're just reliant on just supply 1:20:58.095 --> 1:21:01.575 and not taking into regard the skill and the competencies 1:21:01.735 --> 1:21:04.215 of the people that are installing your products. 1:21:04.695 --> 1:21:10.455 Then, yeah, it up a really big gap. 1:21:10.535 --> 1:21:13.015 And I think this is something that's just so normal 1:21:13.055 --> 1:21:16.895 for our business and our contractors, our LBP contractor network, 1:21:17.295 --> 1:21:19.935 that it's a great practice and process for them as well. 1:21:20.175 --> 1:21:21.495 You know, we've got it to the stage. 1:21:21.735 --> 1:21:24.775 We've actually got it to the stage now where all 1:21:24.855 --> 1:21:28.535 the LVP contractors can undertake and do these reviews with 1:21:28.655 --> 1:21:33.135 the digital information photography, all the checks and balances themselves 1:21:33.175 --> 1:21:35.495 on single story dwellings. You know, they go through and 1:21:35.615 --> 1:21:37.775 do that when we get into the more complex projects 1:21:38.055 --> 1:21:42.175 we get involved. So yeah, it's pretty comprehensive and it's 1:21:42.215 --> 1:21:45.175 a good backup and it saves a lot of racking 1:21:45.255 --> 1:21:47.735 the brain in terms of memories of what what actually 1:21:47.775 --> 1:21:48.655 happened and who did what. 1:21:48.935 --> 1:21:49.135 You know. 1:21:50.135 --> 1:21:52.535 They also they also put notes on the project files 1:21:52.935 --> 1:21:55.015 just in terms of conversations that have been held about 1:21:55.615 --> 1:21:57.535 someone said this or someone said that. You know, there's 1:21:57.535 --> 1:21:59.295 a there's a number of things, so I can avoid 1:21:59.335 --> 1:22:04.415 those types of you know, a few years time. 1:22:04.615 --> 1:22:06.295 So it's really really works. 1:22:07.335 --> 1:22:09.215 Really appreciate your time this morning, we're going to rush 1:22:09.255 --> 1:22:12.575 for the news. Good luck with the golf today. He's 1:22:12.615 --> 1:22:15.295 not playing, he's looking after his boys playing. We'll come 1:22:15.375 --> 1:22:17.415 back and talk a little bit more about all things 1:22:17.495 --> 1:22:20.495 building in construction straight after the news, sport and weather 1:22:20.575 --> 1:22:21.655 here at News Talks EDB. 1:22:22.255 --> 1:22:26.135 Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident 1:22:26.175 --> 1:22:29.535 Filder with Peter WOLFCAF call OH eight hundred eighty eighty 1:22:29.655 --> 1:22:30.575 Youth Talks EDB. 1:22:30.775 --> 1:22:32.975 A righty Oh, welcome back to the show. Oh eight 1:22:33.055 --> 1:22:34.935 hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will 1:22:34.975 --> 1:22:37.895 take your building questions right through till eight thirty. Then 1:22:37.935 --> 1:22:39.975 we're into the garden with the red climb past as 1:22:40.095 --> 1:22:43.695 always at around eight thirty this morning. Just a heads 1:22:43.775 --> 1:22:45.655 up too next week on the show at this time 1:22:46.415 --> 1:22:49.575 Ben Thompson, who is a lawyer who specializes in cross 1:22:49.735 --> 1:22:54.735 leases and property law in general, but cross leases very particularly, 1:22:55.735 --> 1:22:58.255 will be available and we're going to we've had a 1:22:58.295 --> 1:23:01.095 conversation with him before just kind of general stuff about 1:23:01.135 --> 1:23:04.455 cross leases. But we'll cover the same topic next week 1:23:04.535 --> 1:23:07.575 on the show. But you can text a new questions, 1:23:07.575 --> 1:23:10.295 so if you've got specific questions about your cross lease 1:23:10.375 --> 1:23:13.895 or a cross lease that you're involved with, then fire 1:23:13.935 --> 1:23:15.975 them through. We'll do that next Sunday on the show. 1:23:16.575 --> 1:23:19.335 And my thanks again to Mike OL's from Razine Construction 1:23:19.455 --> 1:23:23.335 Systems for making himself available just before again, following on 1:23:23.495 --> 1:23:27.375 from this completely random conversation I had with someone the 1:23:27.455 --> 1:23:30.535 other day, rang me and said, look, I'm interested in 1:23:30.615 --> 1:23:32.775 this property. I'm about to buy it. They're an older 1:23:32.855 --> 1:23:36.895 couple looking for a retirement sort of property, low maintenance, 1:23:36.975 --> 1:23:39.375 single level, all of those sorts of things, and said, 1:23:39.495 --> 1:23:41.455 do you know much about the clouding system? And so 1:23:41.575 --> 1:23:44.095 when I rang Mike, all of the records was there. 1:23:44.215 --> 1:23:47.975 And what struck me, particularly at a time where there's 1:23:47.975 --> 1:23:51.455 a lot of discussion now about government allowing up to 1:23:51.535 --> 1:23:54.615 seventy square meters of building to be granny flats to 1:23:54.695 --> 1:24:00.215 be constructed without necessarily requiring a building consent, which means, 1:24:00.615 --> 1:24:02.375 how do you know you've got a good building right? 1:24:02.415 --> 1:24:05.535 Because typically the default position has been well, because you 1:24:05.615 --> 1:24:08.695 get a building can and because a council inspector comes 1:24:08.735 --> 1:24:11.935 out and has a look at it, you feel confident 1:24:12.015 --> 1:24:14.855 that the building, once it's got its final inspection, got 1:24:14.895 --> 1:24:17.575 a code of compliance, is going to be okay. It's 1:24:17.615 --> 1:24:20.415 going to comply with the code. So if we're not 1:24:20.575 --> 1:24:23.895 going to have counsel there as the gatekeeper, let's say 1:24:23.975 --> 1:24:26.015 to compliance, how do you know it's going to comply? 1:24:26.215 --> 1:24:30.495 And then it shifts the responsibility, let's say, on to 1:24:31.335 --> 1:24:36.735 individual contractors or suppliers of materials to say, look, I 1:24:36.855 --> 1:24:37.935 think it's it's okay. 1:24:38.135 --> 1:24:38.575 How do you know. 1:24:38.815 --> 1:24:41.615 Well, that's where you need good systems and checks and 1:24:41.775 --> 1:24:47.015 reviews and paperwork basically to ensure that compliance. And these 1:24:47.095 --> 1:24:49.895 guys are they've been doing it for twenty years, so 1:24:50.015 --> 1:24:52.215 good on them. I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1:24:52.255 --> 1:24:55.935 Apparently someone else text through and said, look, we do 1:24:56.015 --> 1:25:00.015 a similar sort of system and we've got these certified 1:25:00.055 --> 1:25:03.935 contractors to do the work. So a lot of these 1:25:03.975 --> 1:25:05.855 products and I went to buy something, I don't know, 1:25:05.855 --> 1:25:08.295 a little waterproofing product and they said, ah, you are 1:25:08.335 --> 1:25:10.375 licensed applicator and I said, no, I'm not, and they said, 1:25:10.455 --> 1:25:13.455 we're not going to sell it to you. That's fine, 1:25:14.655 --> 1:25:17.015 It's absolutely fine. You know, if you're going to have 1:25:17.255 --> 1:25:19.695 a product that is going to be critical to the 1:25:19.735 --> 1:25:23.415 building performance, some of those products will then only be 1:25:23.535 --> 1:25:26.335 sold to people who are licensed to install them. And 1:25:26.415 --> 1:25:30.455 I think that's a sensible safeguard. Quick text as well, 1:25:30.495 --> 1:25:33.495 can you please ask your rock coat specialist what painting 1:25:33.575 --> 1:25:37.695 systems required for upkeep? How often should it be repainted? Typically? 1:25:38.095 --> 1:25:41.975 You know houses should be washed every year anyway. And 1:25:42.535 --> 1:25:46.215 in terms of recoat for razine construction or for rock coat, 1:25:47.215 --> 1:25:49.655 I think the recommendation is sort of six to seven years, 1:25:49.975 --> 1:25:53.135 and it'll be razine X two hundred for the top coat. Oh, 1:25:53.175 --> 1:25:55.935 eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's get amongst it, Roger, 1:25:56.055 --> 1:25:57.055 good morning. 1:25:58.375 --> 1:26:03.575 Morning, morning, thanks, no problem. On the topic of birds, 1:26:03.855 --> 1:26:07.335 yes under eaves, Yes, I've got a large covered deck. 1:26:07.455 --> 1:26:10.535 When we moved into the house, there was a couple 1:26:10.575 --> 1:26:13.295 of pairs of birds that were determined to put their 1:26:13.375 --> 1:26:17.935 nests there. After knocking the nests down a few times, 1:26:18.015 --> 1:26:22.855 realized that wasn't working. Long story short, I climbed up 1:26:22.895 --> 1:26:25.855 a ladder and the one I put a round a 1:26:25.975 --> 1:26:28.255 tennis ball another one I stuck a lemon and filled 1:26:28.255 --> 1:26:31.895 the nest up with a foreign body who sat back 1:26:32.415 --> 1:26:35.935 and watched the birds come back, and they were not happy. 1:26:36.135 --> 1:26:38.655 They perched on top of them for a little while 1:26:38.975 --> 1:26:46.335 and made a lot of very upset noise. Basically, I'm 1:26:46.335 --> 1:26:49.015 glad I didn't speak bird, because it sounded like they 1:26:49.095 --> 1:26:51.575 were swearing in about live different dialects. 1:26:52.015 --> 1:26:52.375 Oh yeah. 1:26:52.375 --> 1:26:56.455 They were not happy. Yes, oh yes, that result. They 1:26:58.215 --> 1:27:02.655 didn't come back. They abandoned the location as an unsuitable neighborhood. 1:27:03.095 --> 1:27:06.895 Following year, one of them tried again. I did this thing, 1:27:07.815 --> 1:27:10.775 and same result, and six years I've never had a 1:27:10.855 --> 1:27:12.495 bird under any of the eaves here. 1:27:12.815 --> 1:27:16.175 Interesting, okay, because this was something. I went and washed 1:27:16.375 --> 1:27:19.975 the deck down last week and in lo and behold 1:27:20.015 --> 1:27:21.855 them back there again the other day and I'm like, 1:27:22.015 --> 1:27:24.775 what the you know, it's all the bird poops back again. 1:27:24.815 --> 1:27:26.335 And then I look up and I think, oh, look 1:27:26.335 --> 1:27:28.335 at the little buggers. They're good on them. They got 1:27:28.415 --> 1:27:30.215 to find a home. Everybody's got to live somewhere. They're 1:27:30.255 --> 1:27:31.815 just not going to live at that place. 1:27:32.255 --> 1:27:33.415 So yeah, well you can. 1:27:33.455 --> 1:27:36.295 Keep knocking the nest down and they'll keep coming back. 1:27:36.375 --> 1:27:38.895 So I just made it so they decided themselves not 1:27:39.095 --> 1:27:41.975 to come here. I've told this to friends. 1:27:42.215 --> 1:27:44.455 They sort of like, yeah, give it a try. 1:27:44.655 --> 1:27:47.015 They did saw them a while later and they go, yeah, 1:27:47.095 --> 1:27:47.815 no more birds. 1:27:48.735 --> 1:27:52.455 Good stuff. I'm going to have a crack at using 1:27:52.535 --> 1:27:56.095 one of these gels that apparently dissuade the birds from 1:27:56.215 --> 1:27:58.335 coming back. So I've got to clean the area thoroughly 1:27:58.455 --> 1:28:00.175 knock the nest out, clean the area. So I'm can 1:28:00.215 --> 1:28:03.535 to do a bit of water blasting and then I 1:28:04.015 --> 1:28:05.975 will try this gel and we'll see how that goes. 1:28:06.575 --> 1:28:08.935 Appreciate the call, Roger, and thank you. We're on the 1:28:08.935 --> 1:28:11.335 same page and you're right the determination of birds to 1:28:11.415 --> 1:28:14.695 come back, and it took me about three years to 1:28:15.335 --> 1:28:18.775 beat them at my own place where they were hopping 1:28:18.815 --> 1:28:22.375 into the spouting on the bullnose veranda and then ducking 1:28:22.415 --> 1:28:26.215 their heads underneath the corrugated iron, jumping up over the 1:28:26.295 --> 1:28:28.895 facerboard and into a little gap that was there, a 1:28:28.935 --> 1:28:31.895 little safite that ran around there, and they were roosting 1:28:32.055 --> 1:28:36.215 in there, but they were very, very determined. Appreciate the call, Roger. 1:28:36.255 --> 1:28:38.055 Thank you very much. Steve. Good morning. 1:28:39.855 --> 1:28:44.255 Can I Steve Phillip? Oh yeah, get hey, yeah, look 1:28:44.295 --> 1:28:49.255 I just got a question. Can I talk about a 1:28:49.375 --> 1:28:50.575 cross Lea's situation? 1:28:51.135 --> 1:28:51.335 Yeah? 1:28:51.375 --> 1:28:56.455 Yeah, absolutely, okay, right, right, look, got this project and 1:28:56.655 --> 1:28:59.255 because I'm very interested in the hearing from. 1:28:59.615 --> 1:29:02.495 Is it ben at A the next week on the show. 1:29:03.775 --> 1:29:08.615 Is his last name Thompson? It is yep? Okay, good hey, listen, 1:29:08.975 --> 1:29:12.215 because we've got this situation where we've got a house 1:29:12.695 --> 1:29:15.655 that's going to be demoed. It's a plaster house and 1:29:15.735 --> 1:29:19.975 then rebuilt, right, And so the house is being designed 1:29:20.535 --> 1:29:22.455 and it's on the southern side. It's on a cross 1:29:22.535 --> 1:29:26.655 lease house section with the front house being a villa 1:29:26.775 --> 1:29:30.935 on the front. Now, the people on the front, the 1:29:31.015 --> 1:29:33.975 cross lease neighbors have to sign off on the new 1:29:34.055 --> 1:29:37.415 plans for the rebuilt of the house because of the 1:29:37.575 --> 1:29:42.455 you know what's required, and they are not wanting the 1:29:42.575 --> 1:29:47.255 rare property to have any windows on the northern face 1:29:47.335 --> 1:29:52.775 that's facing their house, right. And now, from my understanding, 1:29:52.935 --> 1:29:56.735 you can't object unreasonably. You have to be reasonable in 1:29:56.815 --> 1:30:02.015 your objections, right, And so they're only their concern is 1:30:02.055 --> 1:30:06.215 that they think the neighbors in the new house would 1:30:06.335 --> 1:30:08.895 windows on At the moment, the house doesn't have that. 1:30:09.015 --> 1:30:11.575 It's more of a single level and a large roof. 1:30:11.695 --> 1:30:13.695 So all they're looking at the moment as a roof 1:30:13.855 --> 1:30:16.295 no windows. The new house will be a double level, 1:30:16.615 --> 1:30:18.975 it will have windows, and it'll have windows on the 1:30:19.175 --> 1:30:22.255 on that on the northern face that will peer into 1:30:22.335 --> 1:30:25.175 their backyard. But it's on the southern side, so the 1:30:25.295 --> 1:30:28.895 light's not being blocked at all, and the house hasn't 1:30:28.895 --> 1:30:30.775 even close to them, so it complies with all the 1:30:30.855 --> 1:30:34.895 other rigs. The only objection is that they don't want 1:30:34.935 --> 1:30:39.335 any windows. They don't want any glass facing their backyard, 1:30:39.775 --> 1:30:41.255 and I would have thought that. 1:30:41.295 --> 1:30:43.735 Would be the questions. Is that reasonable? 1:30:45.135 --> 1:30:48.415 Yeah, you could understand if the house is blocking out 1:30:48.495 --> 1:30:53.495 some sure, nor it's on the southern side and the 1:30:53.575 --> 1:30:55.615 house is a fair ways back. It's actually ten meters 1:30:55.655 --> 1:30:58.655 back from the boundary, so it's not even close. Biness factors, 1:30:59.175 --> 1:31:01.895 They've just got this be in their bonnet. They've got 1:31:02.055 --> 1:31:03.735 their backyard. 1:31:03.375 --> 1:31:06.215 At the moment, they don't have any I guess uish 1:31:06.615 --> 1:31:10.175 is going to be around. How do you enforce reasonableness? 1:31:12.255 --> 1:31:13.295 Yeah, that's what I like that. 1:31:13.615 --> 1:31:16.735 Yeah, but look, I'm happy to keep a note of this, 1:31:16.975 --> 1:31:19.455 and look, if you'd like to text through again next 1:31:19.775 --> 1:31:23.295 Sunday when Ben's actually available, that that would be a 1:31:23.375 --> 1:31:27.695 great question. But yeah, trying to enforce reasonableness. Gee, that's 1:31:28.855 --> 1:31:29.935 it's a tricky one, isn't it. 1:31:29.975 --> 1:31:30.135 You know. 1:31:30.215 --> 1:31:32.535 I mean we've all met people who are just downright 1:31:32.775 --> 1:31:35.135 ornery and just won't be reasonable. 1:31:36.055 --> 1:31:37.215 Yeah, yeah, we're all. 1:31:39.135 --> 1:31:41.335 We should be allowed to have your sunlight, right, you 1:31:41.375 --> 1:31:43.415 should be able to have your your son, your neighbor 1:31:43.455 --> 1:31:45.575 shouldn't be able to tell you just because they're worried 1:31:45.615 --> 1:31:49.575 about it. A few people peering out windows and look. 1:31:49.695 --> 1:31:51.615 I guess you know, listening to what you're saying. If 1:31:51.655 --> 1:31:53.815 it's ten meters away, then you could also do some 1:31:53.935 --> 1:31:56.255 planting on the boundary. It's not like it's one meter 1:31:56.375 --> 1:31:58.855 away and three meters up in the air and looking 1:31:58.895 --> 1:32:03.015 straight into there. So it would seem that there is 1:32:03.135 --> 1:32:06.135 some way of being a little bit reasonable around that. 1:32:06.935 --> 1:32:10.935 Really appreciate that. We'll put that to Ben Thompson who 1:32:11.215 --> 1:32:14.775 is from Pigeon Judge Lawyers and a specialist in Crossley, 1:32:14.855 --> 1:32:16.855 so he's going to be available to answer some questions 1:32:16.935 --> 1:32:19.695 text questions next week on the show. Really looking forward 1:32:19.735 --> 1:32:21.855 to that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, would 1:32:21.855 --> 1:32:23.895 take a short break. 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Worked very well, I have to say, 1:34:27.495 --> 1:34:30.015 And funnily enough, I've been back at that house doing 1:34:30.095 --> 1:34:33.095 some more just regular maintenance work recently. Kitchen still they're 1:34:33.095 --> 1:34:35.775 still working fine. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1:34:35.895 --> 1:34:38.335 is the number to call, just my own experience of it. 1:34:38.655 --> 1:34:39.855 Hey Peter, good morning to. 1:34:39.855 --> 1:34:41.895 You, and good morning do you, Peter. 1:34:42.095 --> 1:34:42.335 Great. 1:34:42.495 --> 1:34:46.015 So we've got a small house that's been converted into 1:34:46.135 --> 1:34:51.255 a retail shop on the main road. The question I've 1:34:51.295 --> 1:34:54.415 got is does a Healthy Homes rules mean that we 1:34:54.495 --> 1:34:56.855 need to supply a heat pump in that situation or 1:34:56.895 --> 1:35:00.135 does it just apply to accommodation. 1:35:00.935 --> 1:35:03.615 I would think it's only accommodation because essentially what it's 1:35:03.655 --> 1:35:07.575 about is the Healthy Homes requirements relate to It's part 1:35:07.615 --> 1:35:11.735 of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Act. So if it's not 1:35:11.895 --> 1:35:17.575 a residential tenancy, then it basically it's irrelevant. Right, So 1:35:17.655 --> 1:35:21.215 if you're using what was a residential property for a 1:35:21.335 --> 1:35:24.415 commercial purpose a shop or an office or something like that, 1:35:24.615 --> 1:35:28.335 then no, I don't see how if there's no tenancy 1:35:28.375 --> 1:35:30.895 agreement in place, then I guess you don't need to 1:35:30.935 --> 1:35:32.335 apply with the Healthy Home standards. 1:35:33.295 --> 1:35:33.975 That's what I thought. 1:35:34.135 --> 1:35:36.775 But someone suggested to me that the rules might have 1:35:36.895 --> 1:35:40.855 changed from one July. No, no, that Google I couldn't 1:35:40.855 --> 1:35:41.295 find anything. 1:35:41.335 --> 1:35:41.535 Yeah. 1:35:41.575 --> 1:35:44.495 No, what happened on the first of July is that 1:35:45.015 --> 1:35:47.455 this is a piece of legislation that's had a really 1:35:47.575 --> 1:35:51.295 long gestation, right, so it was signalled gosh, I think 1:35:51.375 --> 1:35:54.975 as far back as twenty seventeen. Then there was a 1:35:55.055 --> 1:35:58.535 whole series of deadlines. Certain types of dwellings needed to 1:35:58.615 --> 1:36:02.015 comply by certain dates, and then there were always exemptions. So, 1:36:02.255 --> 1:36:04.415 for example, if you had a sitting tenant in a 1:36:04.495 --> 1:36:07.255 property and maybe they'd been there for five years, right, 1:36:08.215 --> 1:36:12.335 you didn't need to comply with the regulations until they 1:36:12.495 --> 1:36:15.735 moved out or until they renewed their tendancy. And if 1:36:15.775 --> 1:36:18.495 they just went onto a periodic, they wouldn't renew it, right. 1:36:18.615 --> 1:36:23.735 So so in effect. You might have had a long 1:36:23.895 --> 1:36:28.135 term tenant in a residential property up until the first 1:36:28.215 --> 1:36:31.935 of July, so six days ago that that building didn't 1:36:31.975 --> 1:36:34.815 need to comply because the tenant never moved out. That 1:36:35.015 --> 1:36:38.295 exemption has ended, right, So from the first of July, 1:36:38.615 --> 1:36:44.335 every single residential property, including state houses, all need to 1:36:44.415 --> 1:36:48.815 comply with the healthy home standards from now. That's that's 1:36:48.855 --> 1:36:52.175 the change that you might have been talking about. Great listen, 1:36:52.335 --> 1:36:55.055 Thank you very much, Pleasure all the best, pleasure to 1:36:55.175 --> 1:37:00.775 take care your new stork seed b oh, good point. 1:37:01.295 --> 1:37:04.095 Just quick text. We were talking with Robin who's in 1:37:04.135 --> 1:37:08.535 an older sort of nineteen seventy house had some insulation, 1:37:08.695 --> 1:37:12.095 but insulation standards there were pretty poor, to be blunt 1:37:13.935 --> 1:37:16.375 to the lady who was asking about putting up bats 1:37:16.415 --> 1:37:19.215 on top of old bats, or more insulation over the 1:37:19.295 --> 1:37:21.375 existing one in her ceiling if she has a community 1:37:21.415 --> 1:37:24.015 services card. There are all sorts of government grants for 1:37:24.055 --> 1:37:26.295 that kind of stuff, and the cost is actually really cheap, 1:37:26.335 --> 1:37:28.415 and there are many companies that do it, and believe me, 1:37:28.495 --> 1:37:33.375 it's definitely worthwhile. Plus they'll also do underfloor installation if possible, 1:37:33.735 --> 1:37:37.335 and the vapor barrier onto the floor from Ron, Thanks 1:37:37.455 --> 1:37:40.135 very much, and you're absolutely right. There's quite a lot 1:37:40.215 --> 1:37:45.255 of support available if you're in the right category for that. 1:37:46.735 --> 1:37:51.215 And you've got a hats off Taika, who run the 1:37:51.495 --> 1:37:55.215 Warmer Homes program. The actual number of dwellings, and I 1:37:55.375 --> 1:37:57.695 was surprised by this because I talk about this quite 1:37:57.735 --> 1:38:01.215 a lot at different seminars and presentations and that sort 1:38:01.255 --> 1:38:03.535 of thing, and I had always assumed that there was 1:38:04.015 --> 1:38:07.855 a significant like hundreds of thousands of New Zealand homes 1:38:07.895 --> 1:38:13.215 that are either completely uninsulated or poorly insulated. Talking with 1:38:13.375 --> 1:38:16.895 ECA who measure this, they actually think that the number 1:38:16.935 --> 1:38:21.135 of houses that are really poorly insulated is possibly down 1:38:21.215 --> 1:38:24.855 in the one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand dwellings. 1:38:24.895 --> 1:38:28.415 Now there's about two million dwellings in New Zealand, there's 1:38:28.455 --> 1:38:32.615 about five hundred it's almost six hundred thousand rental properties 1:38:32.655 --> 1:38:35.175 in New Zealand. So if we're down to a nub 1:38:35.375 --> 1:38:39.375 of about somewhere, be nice if it was zero. But realistically, 1:38:39.975 --> 1:38:43.055 there has been actually great progress for most of our 1:38:43.135 --> 1:38:47.335 housing stock to add some insulation where it's practical to 1:38:47.415 --> 1:38:49.575 do so, and that I think is a really really 1:38:49.735 --> 1:38:52.455 good thing. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number 1:38:52.455 --> 1:38:54.455 to call. Last call for the morning Peter, Hello there. 1:38:55.735 --> 1:39:01.015 Hello, just spring up. Really on a tight budget, yes, 1:39:01.375 --> 1:39:09.015 really on a Tiday's budget. What happened was ah two 1:39:09.135 --> 1:39:13.295 messive holes in the war. What I did was, being 1:39:13.415 --> 1:39:16.255 on the type budget, I had a block of wood. 1:39:17.255 --> 1:39:17.895 I placed the. 1:39:17.935 --> 1:39:21.095 Wooden in the in the middle of the hole. And 1:39:21.215 --> 1:39:26.135 what I did was I nailed the wood in the 1:39:26.295 --> 1:39:31.615 whole winded. I placed a piece of two year car 1:39:31.975 --> 1:39:37.495 well paper. Well, you know, for exactly the same color 1:39:37.735 --> 1:39:38.415 as the war. 1:39:39.335 --> 1:39:39.775 It didn't. 1:39:39.935 --> 1:39:43.015 I placed bother because look, I'm on the type budget. 1:39:44.015 --> 1:39:48.935 Flower in water and looks the flower up. It worked. 1:39:49.215 --> 1:39:51.135 It worked, honestly it worked. 1:39:51.935 --> 1:39:53.535 Is it your own place, Peter, or is it a 1:39:53.615 --> 1:39:54.575 rented place that you're in. 1:39:56.335 --> 1:40:00.495 Well, apparently I got the job done. Landlord came to 1:40:00.975 --> 1:40:04.215 day and he didn't know anything about it. 1:40:06.455 --> 1:40:09.815 You cod mate, if it works for you, it works 1:40:09.855 --> 1:40:13.255 for you, and maybe later on the landlord, I want 1:40:13.295 --> 1:40:16.335 to take the flower out and put in some plaster 1:40:16.495 --> 1:40:19.655 or some jib compound or something like that. Appreciate the call. 1:40:19.975 --> 1:40:22.375 Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to 1:40:22.495 --> 1:40:25.015 call for rid climb pass because he is standing by. 1:40:25.615 --> 1:40:28.415 And just another quick reminder, So next week at this 1:40:28.615 --> 1:40:31.815 time from eight to eight thirty, we'll have Ben Thompson, 1:40:32.135 --> 1:40:35.015 who's a lawyer who specializes in Crossley's I'm already getting 1:40:35.015 --> 1:40:37.855 a whole bunch of texts. You'll need to text in 1:40:38.095 --> 1:40:41.135 next week if you've got a specific question. And I 1:40:41.215 --> 1:40:43.935 think it's going to be a very very busy half 1:40:44.015 --> 1:40:46.335 hour on the show. So looking forward to that next week, 1:40:46.575 --> 1:40:49.175 looking forward to talking with Rut as well. And love 1:40:49.295 --> 1:40:51.655 the text that came in just a moment ago, so 1:40:52.015 --> 1:40:55.455 says the texter from last week's show with Rud. I've 1:40:55.615 --> 1:40:58.815 made a RUU box. Now could I ask where would 1:40:58.815 --> 1:41:00.855 be the best place to put it? We will answer 1:41:00.895 --> 1:41:03.775 that question and many more than just a moment back 1:41:03.855 --> 1:41:04.175 with Rut. 1:41:04.295 --> 1:41:08.575 After the breaking Upper House Dawning the Garden asked Pete 1:41:08.655 --> 1:41:11.655 for a hand The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. 1:41:11.775 --> 1:41:14.575 Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks EDB 1:41:15.535 --> 1:41:18.455 for more from The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Listen 1:41:18.575 --> 1:41:21.295 live to News Talks EDB on Sunday mornings from six, 1:41:21.695 --> 1:41:23.735 or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.