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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from US. Talks edby viewing up the house, sorting

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Speaker 1: Peter wolf Camp called eight hundred eighty ten eighty used

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Speaker 2: The house sizzle even when it's dug, even when the

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Speaker 2: grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when a

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Speaker 3: Too old to barn.

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Speaker 4: And when you're sitting at the table trying not to

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Speaker 4: stove house scissor even when we are ben ball, even

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Speaker 4: when you're therellone houses a home, even when these ghost

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Speaker 4: even when you got.

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Speaker 2: Around from the world you love your most screamed those

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Speaker 2: broken paints, feeling from the wood locals bastball when they're

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Speaker 2: going to leave in the neighbor.

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Speaker 4: The house is a home, even when wilband home, even

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Speaker 4: when you're in there alone, it's.

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Speaker 3: A home.

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Speaker 5: A hang on, no, no, no, heaven. How about that? Sorry, folks,

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Speaker 5: let me start again. My mistake radio. Actually, yeah, there

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Speaker 5: we go, rightio. Sorry about that technical mistake on my part.

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Speaker 5: The fader was down there you go. Hey, good morning,

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Speaker 5: welcome along to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp.

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Speaker 5: This is the resident builder on Sunday, and we are

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Speaker 5: into a couple of hours of open line conversation about

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Speaker 5: all things building and construction. So if you've got some

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Speaker 5: questions of a building nature, you should call me right now. Inevitably,

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Speaker 5: as I mentioned a few times, we do get a

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Speaker 5: little bit busy later on the show and don't always

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Speaker 5: get to all of the callers. So if you've got

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Speaker 5: a question and you're up and about, maybe you've you've

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Speaker 5: already had the toast and the tea and that sort

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Speaker 5: of thing, or perhaps you just tucked up still in bed.

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Speaker 5: It is kind of the middle of winter, doesn't It

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Speaker 5: feels reasonably sort of settled in this part of the

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Speaker 5: country at the moment. But if you're up at about

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Speaker 5: and you're listening to the show and you think, yee,

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Speaker 5: I wish I knew kind of what to do about.

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Speaker 5: You know, someone who's text me before when it rains

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Speaker 5: a little area just by the back door that gets

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Speaker 5: wet right the back door's undercover, so I suspect that

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Speaker 5: the moisture is coming up through the slab. What do

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Speaker 5: I do about that? Or another email that I got

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Speaker 5: during the course of the week, it was someone who's going, hey, look,

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Speaker 5: I was told that I didn't need a building consent

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Speaker 5: for this particular type of work. Turns out I did.

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Speaker 5: What can I do about it?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: I have to say on that matter, it's been sort

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Speaker 5: of a project of mine for the last little while

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Speaker 5: to try and get a building consent that was issued

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Speaker 5: in two thousand and two. The work was completed, the

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Speaker 5: inspection in two thousand and twelve found that there was

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Speaker 5: some work that was not properly done, that required more work,

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Speaker 5: which required a new building consent that got done, That

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Speaker 5: consent got signed off. Excuse me, my client got me

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Speaker 5: which got a building consent. Well, had a building consent

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Speaker 5: and got signed off and a CCC was issued. But

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Speaker 5: that has been quite the process, and it wasn't just

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Speaker 5: there's been the engagement of building surveys to do a

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Speaker 5: essentially a performance review of the exterior cladding, to satisfy

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Speaker 5: that very early consent, which means that when someone looks

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Speaker 5: they'll see that every consent that was issued, every building

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Speaker 5: so that that text that came through with that email

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Speaker 5: honorable Chris Pink, who's been a guest on this show

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Speaker 5: standards are too high. They've added significant costs to buildings.

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Speaker 5: We should look at winding that. And that was kind

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Speaker 5: of the first one of the first announcements. Look, we're

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Speaker 5: back h one fascinating debate. We've talked about it a

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Speaker 5: been much shouting at televisions, radios, stomping of feet, banging

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Speaker 5: the way in which it's been presented. And so often

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Speaker 5: the reporting will be along lines of insulation standards are

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Speaker 5: going to be reduced, right, which is not actually true.

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Speaker 5: Insallation standards, the actual performance criteria for the house are

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Speaker 5: If you use the schedule method six point six. To

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Speaker 5: Happy to talk about this, I think it's really important,

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Speaker 5: more nuanced way of actually figuring out what's going on

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Speaker 5: then someone else did a heating assessment on it their results,

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Speaker 5: it just raises so many questions. One is how do

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Speaker 5: that looking at a real world example, how does this

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Speaker 5: that in fact, the heating requirement is considerably less. Again,

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Speaker 5: Chappy rings up and goes, what do you know about

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Speaker 5: I said, what do you mean? I don't know him?

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Speaker 5: You just I don't know. To be fair, I don't

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Speaker 5: even know who he got my number. He listens to

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Speaker 5: the show and somehow you got my number, Good on you,

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Speaker 5: and he goes the auctions later on today. Can you

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Speaker 5: tell me anything about it as it happens? I could,

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Speaker 5: And the only reason I could is because I know

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Speaker 5: him and go, here's the address. What do you know

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Speaker 5: Radio folks, thank you very much for listening. Let's get

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Speaker 5: There is lots to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering

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Speaker 5: That'd be I'm slightly baffled by this text. To be fair,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't suggest so the changes that you're proposing to

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Speaker 5: that are shown on the existing building consent. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 5: They'll look at it, they can stamp it, sign it,

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, good advice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, good advice. I've got the drafts from its

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Speaker 5: And look, it's not too different to you know people going, oh, well, look,

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Speaker 6: But do it now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. The only thing is that I want to put

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Speaker 5: do it now, buddy, all the best, Okay, take care

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Speaker 5: of Thank you, sir, Steve your news talks. He'd be

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Speaker 5: He'd be coming up six thirty Colin, Good morning.

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Speaker 5: Very well? Thank you Colin yourself.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll run out of doubt one day. Next seat,

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Speaker 8: In the kitchen, Tita, I have got some crack in

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Speaker 5: I wonder why that's peeling off. Well, because you haven't

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Speaker 8: Actually I'm going to get a a twadem and tun

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Speaker 5: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 5: If it's already in for consent, get the consent and

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Speaker 5: Off with a Hisstener Raw this morning. If you've got

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Speaker 5: a question of a building nature. You should call me

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Speaker 5: right now. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

433
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Speaker 5: that number to call. Owen's text through as well. Just

434
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Speaker 5: with regard to Colin talking about you know what could

435
00:25:31,935 --> 00:25:35,495
Speaker 5: cause cracking in the paint work of the ceiling, has

436
00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:39,335
Speaker 5: suggested that painting an enamel over and acrylic may result

437
00:25:39,335 --> 00:25:43,575
Speaker 5: in cracking too because of generally the inflexibility of the

438
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Speaker 5: enamel on the expanding and contracting a crilic Thank you

439
00:25:47,735 --> 00:25:51,015
Speaker 5: very much for that one. Yeah, it is quite And

440
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Speaker 5: I made the comment about a legislation or rules building

441
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Speaker 5: code rules around whether or not you needed more than

442
00:25:59,455 --> 00:26:02,695
Speaker 5: one door between a toilet and the kitchen. It's just

443
00:26:02,775 --> 00:26:05,695
Speaker 5: it's one of those old rules that sort of floated around. Anyway,

444
00:26:05,735 --> 00:26:08,615
Speaker 5: Someone's text, hey where can I send you a pack? Well,

445
00:26:08,655 --> 00:26:09,775
Speaker 5: if you want to send a pick, you have to

446
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Speaker 5: email it to me. That's Pete at newstalksb dot co

447
00:26:12,535 --> 00:26:17,815
Speaker 5: dot nz. And one we have one bathroom in our house.

448
00:26:17,855 --> 00:26:20,495
Speaker 5: It's literally seven steps away from the kitchen bench and

449
00:26:20,695 --> 00:26:23,935
Speaker 5: there is only one door. Just trying thing about my

450
00:26:24,015 --> 00:26:26,175
Speaker 5: own house. And we got some doors into the hallway

451
00:26:26,215 --> 00:26:28,735
Speaker 5: which are typically always open, and then one door to

452
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Speaker 5: the bathroom which is off the hallway, typical old villa.

453
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Speaker 5: So if the doors are open, which they are most

454
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Speaker 5: of the time, and it's only one one door between

455
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Speaker 5: the kitchen, maybe it's a distance thing as well. It

456
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Speaker 5: just it stuck with me. I remember discussing it. To

457
00:26:45,415 --> 00:26:47,975
Speaker 5: be fair, it could have been twenty or thirty years ago,

458
00:26:48,015 --> 00:26:51,415
Speaker 5: but anyway, right, and someone takes through. I get this

459
00:26:51,455 --> 00:26:55,175
Speaker 5: all the time. It's hilarious song, so depressing it really

460
00:26:55,175 --> 00:26:57,295
Speaker 5: gets a bad start to the show. I'll tell you

461
00:26:57,295 --> 00:27:01,495
Speaker 5: what in kindness, I'll say this. I did last year

462
00:27:01,535 --> 00:27:03,495
Speaker 5: on the anniversary of the show. Decided to change the

463
00:27:03,535 --> 00:27:05,855
Speaker 5: song and I came up with something else, and then

464
00:27:05,855 --> 00:27:08,975
Speaker 5: everyone went, we liked the song, We like the song

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Speaker 5: back please So oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

466
00:27:12,815 --> 00:27:15,815
Speaker 5: is the number to call New Texas. Just come in morning, Pete.

467
00:27:15,855 --> 00:27:19,175
Speaker 5: What happens if the council has no limb or any

468
00:27:19,215 --> 00:27:21,935
Speaker 5: other records of our house? Is there anywhere else to

469
00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:26,335
Speaker 5: find information for consents? Et cetera. We recently bought a

470
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Speaker 5: house in the Rangutiki district and council and they say

471
00:27:30,495 --> 00:27:32,815
Speaker 5: that they had a fire sometime ago and all of

472
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Speaker 5: the records were lost. Apparently it's a common thing. I

473
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Speaker 5: tell you, what's a common thing. And I'm amazed that

474
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Speaker 5: there are any records left. But I have heard we

475
00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:48,295
Speaker 5: had a fire and all the records were lost. I

476
00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:50,695
Speaker 5: was going to say hundreds of times. No, not hundreds

477
00:27:50,735 --> 00:27:54,255
Speaker 5: of times, but I've heard it from almost every single

478
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Speaker 5: council in the country over the last umpteen years. We

479
00:28:00,935 --> 00:28:03,815
Speaker 5: had a fire and all the records were lost. I've

480
00:28:03,855 --> 00:28:08,255
Speaker 5: heard that over and over and over again. I don't

481
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Speaker 5: think that council buildings are that likely to burn down

482
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Speaker 5: and destroy all of the council records for building consents

483
00:28:15,415 --> 00:28:18,895
Speaker 5: and building permits and all the rest of it. I

484
00:28:18,935 --> 00:28:22,055
Speaker 5: think that councils just lose stuff. So look, in the

485
00:28:22,095 --> 00:28:24,935
Speaker 5: event that council don't have anything on the limb, you

486
00:28:25,015 --> 00:28:28,255
Speaker 5: could ask for the property file, which is slightly different

487
00:28:28,295 --> 00:28:32,295
Speaker 5: to the limb, and that literally is anything that they've

488
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Speaker 5: got on file about the building. But it is also

489
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Speaker 5: not uncommon for older buildings that there are simply no.

490
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Speaker 6: Records.

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Speaker 5: And I've had exactly the same I requested the property

492
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Speaker 5: file for a property and I did it online, paid

493
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Speaker 5: my money. It was like seventy six dollars or something

494
00:28:53,735 --> 00:28:55,975
Speaker 5: like that paid for it, and about two or three

495
00:28:56,055 --> 00:28:59,815
Speaker 5: days later I got a phone call from someone working

496
00:28:59,815 --> 00:29:02,935
Speaker 5: at that particular council saying, hey, look, we know that

497
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Speaker 5: you've made this request, but to be fair, we've got nothing.

498
00:29:06,975 --> 00:29:10,935
Speaker 5: We got nothing, so you know, send us an email

499
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Speaker 5: and we'll refund your money. There you go. Oh eight

500
00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:20,015
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty eighty is the number. Call Call

501
00:29:20,055 --> 00:29:24,135
Speaker 5: seems to have dropped off. That's a right if you've

502
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Speaker 5: got a question about building or about building consents and

503
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Speaker 5: rules regulations. And I am quite keen to discuss the

504
00:29:32,175 --> 00:29:37,455
Speaker 5: whole heating assessment tool thing, just based on my own

505
00:29:37,495 --> 00:29:41,975
Speaker 5: experience of using it recently and then looking at and

506
00:29:42,015 --> 00:29:46,975
Speaker 5: I've got them up on my laptop A. This is

507
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Speaker 5: all part of the Healthy Home Standards right, So as

508
00:29:49,135 --> 00:29:53,415
Speaker 5: a landlord, now there's no more time to get yourself

509
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Speaker 5: sorted in terms of complying with Healthy Home standards. As

510
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Speaker 5: of the first of July, so six days ago, all

511
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Speaker 5: New Zealand residential rental properties must have a must be

512
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Speaker 5: Healthy Homes compliant right. There are no more exceptions, there's

513
00:30:10,535 --> 00:30:12,775
Speaker 5: no more delays, there's no more I'll get round to

514
00:30:12,815 --> 00:30:16,455
Speaker 5: it tomorrow. It's all just got to happen. And so

515
00:30:17,495 --> 00:30:21,335
Speaker 5: everyone who has a residential rental property will need to

516
00:30:21,335 --> 00:30:25,775
Speaker 5: do a heating assessment to prove that the building can

517
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Speaker 5: get to twenty degrees on the coldest day of the year,

518
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Speaker 5: and that varies across the country depending on what climatic

519
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Speaker 5: zone you're in. And then obviously what it takes to

520
00:30:35,015 --> 00:30:39,695
Speaker 5: get to twenty degrees in terms of this calculation depends

521
00:30:39,775 --> 00:30:42,815
Speaker 5: on what the building is made of. Is there a

522
00:30:42,855 --> 00:30:45,575
Speaker 5: lots of insulation, not much insulation, et cetera, et cetera.

523
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Speaker 5: And so you use the tool, it's the government's tool.

524
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Speaker 5: It's on the Tendency Services website. You use the tool,

525
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Speaker 5: you enter in the data and it spits out a number.

526
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Speaker 5: So one report, this is bearing in mind, this is

527
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Speaker 5: exactly the same building right that we're looking at here.

528
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Speaker 5: One report and I'm reading it right now, ends up

529
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Speaker 5: with a heating recommendation of So the building you require

530
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Speaker 5: four point five kilowats of heating capacity to heat the

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Speaker 5: living room. Heating needs to provide this heating capacity with

532
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Speaker 5: an outdoor temperature of one degree. So that's the assumption

533
00:31:23,535 --> 00:31:26,855
Speaker 5: in Auckland that it might be one degree outside when

534
00:31:26,895 --> 00:31:28,695
Speaker 5: it's one degree outside. You've got to be able to

535
00:31:28,735 --> 00:31:31,335
Speaker 5: get that room to twenty degrees and in order to

536
00:31:31,415 --> 00:31:35,055
Speaker 5: do that, you've got to have four point five kilowatts

537
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Speaker 5: of heating. Then exactly the same building, another report done

538
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Speaker 5: by another assessor generates a number that says you need

539
00:31:43,695 --> 00:31:49,575
Speaker 5: three kilowatts of heating, just quite a bit different. Then

540
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Speaker 5: I did calculations based on how I think the building

541
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Speaker 5: actually performs using the tool, and I got one point two.

542
00:31:56,775 --> 00:31:59,335
Speaker 5: Then we went out and got a professional to do

543
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Speaker 5: a model of the building, a theoretical model of the

544
00:32:02,335 --> 00:32:05,375
Speaker 5: building to see what heating requirement there was actually going

545
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Speaker 5: to be. Came back at zero point five to seven killowatts.

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Speaker 5: Think about what's required to heat to four point five

547
00:32:16,055 --> 00:32:22,535
Speaker 5: versus zero point five to seven. It is significant difference, right,

548
00:32:22,895 --> 00:32:26,495
Speaker 5: and what you need to do. I e. In one case,

549
00:32:26,575 --> 00:32:29,775
Speaker 5: you must install a heat pump, which means penetrating the

550
00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:33,415
Speaker 5: exterior cladding, doing lots of electrical work, making sure that

551
00:32:33,415 --> 00:32:35,935
Speaker 5: you've got a drainage pathway from the indoor unit to

552
00:32:35,975 --> 00:32:38,935
Speaker 5: the outside. For the comments eight, you've got to have

553
00:32:38,975 --> 00:32:41,575
Speaker 5: somewhere to sit that outdoor unit, which in an apartment

554
00:32:41,575 --> 00:32:45,615
Speaker 5: could be a little bit challenging, and you know all

555
00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:48,735
Speaker 5: of the cost involved to do something that in the end,

556
00:32:49,135 --> 00:32:52,295
Speaker 5: in my opinion, you don't actually need. So give us

557
00:32:52,295 --> 00:32:53,975
Speaker 5: a call on that if you'd like. Oh, eight hundred

558
00:32:54,095 --> 00:32:56,215
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. James. Good

559
00:32:56,255 --> 00:32:56,735
Speaker 5: morning to.

560
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Speaker 9: You, Jane.

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Speaker 11: That's good things, just kind of all. My mother's on

562
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Speaker 11: her own. She's got a naked aker land and he's

563
00:33:11,575 --> 00:33:15,335
Speaker 11: beside her. Baker Land has been subdivided, and they've got

564
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Speaker 11: the neighbor has built a big his house is slightly raised,

565
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Speaker 11: and he's built a long cronky drive from the road

566
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Speaker 11: up to his house in the in the fall of

567
00:33:28,815 --> 00:33:35,135
Speaker 11: the of the driveways going towards my mother's house, and

568
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Speaker 11: it's flooding. She's never had that film before and so

569
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Speaker 11: I had to talk to him and then I said,

570
00:33:42,575 --> 00:33:45,895
Speaker 11: you need to such that drive. The fool is wrong

571
00:33:46,415 --> 00:33:50,375
Speaker 11: and he said that costs me quite a bit. And

572
00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:54,055
Speaker 11: I said, well, well, He said, how vert if I

573
00:33:54,135 --> 00:33:59,015
Speaker 11: put a sum the so caol and your parents just

574
00:33:59,095 --> 00:34:03,175
Speaker 11: through the fence into the appearance place. And I said, no,

575
00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:07,655
Speaker 11: you can't do that, I thought the council. He said, oh,

576
00:34:07,895 --> 00:34:10,695
Speaker 11: you get them, get her to agree. She's in her eighties.

577
00:34:10,735 --> 00:34:14,095
Speaker 11: And I said no, I said, you can't do that.

578
00:34:14,335 --> 00:34:19,175
Speaker 11: So I don't think you can, kiddy, Hell no, yeah,

579
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Speaker 11: oh sort of, because that would come under lund too.

580
00:34:23,615 --> 00:34:24,015
Speaker 10: I mean.

581
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Speaker 11: You have told the house, wouldn't you.

582
00:34:27,655 --> 00:34:28,575
Speaker 10: No, you don't.

583
00:34:29,055 --> 00:34:33,855
Speaker 5: You don't allow the neighbor who's basically lazy and maybe

584
00:34:33,895 --> 00:34:37,695
Speaker 5: a little bit of a bully to do that, right,

585
00:34:37,855 --> 00:34:42,855
Speaker 5: So that that and also that type of drainage would

586
00:34:42,935 --> 00:34:45,175
Speaker 5: require a consent. You never get consent for it, right,

587
00:34:47,895 --> 00:34:51,175
Speaker 5: So this this development that's going on next door obviously

588
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:52,135
Speaker 5: is consented.

589
00:34:54,175 --> 00:35:00,615
Speaker 11: He felt, well, yeah, that's quite long. She's her the

590
00:35:00,735 --> 00:35:05,895
Speaker 11: back of her sections panic and and his house is

591
00:35:06,015 --> 00:35:09,055
Speaker 11: right the end of the pedic in a very long driveway.

592
00:35:09,255 --> 00:35:14,415
Speaker 11: So the water comes raw and down, Yeah, raised coming

593
00:35:14,495 --> 00:35:19,215
Speaker 11: down because the foolall is going to my mother's place.

594
00:35:19,615 --> 00:35:20,135
Speaker 11: She's well in.

595
00:35:21,775 --> 00:35:23,015
Speaker 7: And what is flooding in ord?

596
00:35:24,055 --> 00:35:25,935
Speaker 11: And I said, yeah, you're going to have to change

597
00:35:26,095 --> 00:35:26,535
Speaker 11: four of it?

598
00:35:26,815 --> 00:35:30,615
Speaker 5: So yeah, so he could you know, in terms of

599
00:35:31,335 --> 00:35:34,135
Speaker 5: actually fixing it, what he could do is add a curb, right,

600
00:35:34,655 --> 00:35:36,935
Speaker 5: so it might fall to one side, but then he

601
00:35:37,095 --> 00:35:41,575
Speaker 5: catches it in with a curb and then directs that down.

602
00:35:41,655 --> 00:35:43,935
Speaker 5: But then he's got to collect that somewhere as well,

603
00:35:44,295 --> 00:35:47,655
Speaker 5: right and dispose of it, and all of that is

604
00:35:47,815 --> 00:35:50,935
Speaker 5: required by law. So that's why I asked if he's

605
00:35:50,935 --> 00:35:53,495
Speaker 5: got a building consent, I would say that on the

606
00:35:53,535 --> 00:35:57,215
Speaker 5: building consent, it will show us a particular design for

607
00:35:57,335 --> 00:36:03,455
Speaker 5: the driveway. And I wonder whether what he's done is

608
00:36:03,735 --> 00:36:07,295
Speaker 5: not complied with the design for the drive way. He's

609
00:36:07,375 --> 00:36:11,135
Speaker 5: just gone ahead whack something in in the hope that

610
00:36:11,215 --> 00:36:14,535
Speaker 5: no one's going to complain, but obviously it is causing flooding.

611
00:36:14,775 --> 00:36:19,735
Speaker 5: So one option would be to go to him and say,

612
00:36:19,935 --> 00:36:22,775
Speaker 5: can you show me the design for the driveway please,

613
00:36:23,335 --> 00:36:24,535
Speaker 5: and then have a look at it, and if it

614
00:36:24,575 --> 00:36:27,495
Speaker 5: doesn't match up, you know that like if he's saying,

615
00:36:27,535 --> 00:36:29,535
Speaker 5: it's not my problem, I've just put the driveway, and

616
00:36:29,615 --> 00:36:31,495
Speaker 5: then you could say, well, look we do have a

617
00:36:31,575 --> 00:36:35,495
Speaker 5: problem because we're flooding or my mum's flooding, and so

618
00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:38,855
Speaker 5: I'm not convinced that the driveway is built as per

619
00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:46,615
Speaker 5: the consent. Yeah, So and then you know, if he's

620
00:36:46,695 --> 00:36:50,735
Speaker 5: reluctant to play ball again, I'd probably get in touch

621
00:36:50,775 --> 00:36:54,015
Speaker 5: with counsel. If he's doing a subdivision, there'll be both

622
00:36:54,175 --> 00:36:56,335
Speaker 5: a resource consent and a building consent.

623
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Speaker 11: The house is already established. But yeah, and already is stablished.

624
00:37:06,295 --> 00:37:09,815
Speaker 11: It's don't come a year and year and her maybe

625
00:37:09,855 --> 00:37:12,935
Speaker 11: two years done, but with an increasing rain with it.

626
00:37:13,135 --> 00:37:17,135
Speaker 11: But just notice got worse and then it's just a

627
00:37:17,335 --> 00:37:19,175
Speaker 11: fund of the bed that's all coming.

628
00:37:19,335 --> 00:37:23,335
Speaker 5: So on the adjoining property. On the adjoining property, James is,

629
00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:25,375
Speaker 5: there's still just one dwelling.

630
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:32,255
Speaker 11: These three in the driveway. That in the driveway feeds

631
00:37:32,415 --> 00:37:37,535
Speaker 11: two houses on the So the the driveway runs right

632
00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:42,975
Speaker 11: along the Yeah, it's coming under the fence and flooding

633
00:37:43,015 --> 00:37:43,535
Speaker 11: into the water.

634
00:37:43,775 --> 00:37:48,375
Speaker 5: And I'd be happy to bet dollars to donuts that

635
00:37:48,735 --> 00:37:52,855
Speaker 5: the driveway design probably shows either a swale or a

636
00:37:53,015 --> 00:37:56,335
Speaker 5: curb as catchment and then that should be directed to

637
00:37:56,535 --> 00:38:00,175
Speaker 5: some controlled storm water. If he hasn't done that, it's

638
00:38:00,295 --> 00:38:05,135
Speaker 5: it's absolutely his problem, right you just it's a requirement

639
00:38:05,255 --> 00:38:07,655
Speaker 5: under the property law that you have to control stormwater

640
00:38:07,775 --> 00:38:10,775
Speaker 5: discharge from your property. He's not doing that, and he's

641
00:38:10,815 --> 00:38:13,335
Speaker 5: in a breach. So the other person to talk to

642
00:38:13,495 --> 00:38:19,095
Speaker 5: James would be go to counsel and ask to speak

643
00:38:19,175 --> 00:38:23,295
Speaker 5: to the resource Consents compliance monitoring officer and ask them

644
00:38:23,375 --> 00:38:23,895
Speaker 5: to go out.

645
00:38:23,775 --> 00:38:25,655
Speaker 6: And have a look, yes.

646
00:38:26,975 --> 00:38:29,575
Speaker 11: Next week, so very much that no trouble.

647
00:38:29,335 --> 00:38:32,655
Speaker 5: Back, all the best, take care see then frustrating A.

648
00:38:32,895 --> 00:38:34,735
Speaker 5: I mean, because it's to be blunt. It's not that

649
00:38:34,895 --> 00:38:38,975
Speaker 5: hard to do a driveway where you are catching the

650
00:38:39,295 --> 00:38:41,895
Speaker 5: water that falls onto the driveway. It's a hard surface,

651
00:38:41,975 --> 00:38:45,775
Speaker 5: it's impermeable, it's going to sheet off somewhere. So most

652
00:38:45,935 --> 00:38:48,775
Speaker 5: driveways will have either a bit of a dish running

653
00:38:48,815 --> 00:38:51,695
Speaker 5: down one side which will catch the water directed into

654
00:38:52,215 --> 00:38:54,495
Speaker 5: a catch pit or to a channel grate and then

655
00:38:54,615 --> 00:38:57,815
Speaker 5: discharge it into stormwater. But just sloping the driveway so

656
00:38:57,895 --> 00:39:01,135
Speaker 5: it falls to your neighbors is simply not acceptable.

657
00:39:01,535 --> 00:39:04,255
Speaker 1: Take short break back in a moth helping you get

658
00:39:04,335 --> 00:39:08,375
Speaker 1: those diway projects done to the resident builder with Peter

659
00:39:08,455 --> 00:39:09,415
Speaker 1: Wolfcat call.

660
00:39:11,055 --> 00:39:14,215
Speaker 5: Talk news sport and with the top of the air

661
00:39:14,295 --> 00:39:16,415
Speaker 5: coming up shortly but Gerald, good morning.

662
00:39:17,455 --> 00:39:21,415
Speaker 12: Good morning, Yeah, listen to to program and a lot.

663
00:39:22,255 --> 00:39:28,815
Speaker 12: I've got a problem an older cottage with a corrugated

664
00:39:28,895 --> 00:39:33,255
Speaker 12: iron roof. The organized now the leadhead nails are going

665
00:39:33,855 --> 00:39:35,735
Speaker 12: ted leadheads in it, which I wanted to get rid of.

666
00:39:37,535 --> 00:39:40,895
Speaker 12: They've gone getting rush marks around them, so we pulled

667
00:39:40,935 --> 00:39:43,255
Speaker 12: them out and there's a little bit of rusty. He

668
00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:48,535
Speaker 12: needs treating, and I was advised to put the screws

669
00:39:48,615 --> 00:39:52,455
Speaker 12: in the proper screws with brother to get some big

670
00:39:53,095 --> 00:39:55,695
Speaker 12: get some big washes that you buy that go around

671
00:39:55,735 --> 00:40:00,615
Speaker 12: them to increase the area. Ye, what do we how

672
00:40:00,655 --> 00:40:04,815
Speaker 12: do we treat that? Okay, I can divert the water

673
00:40:04,975 --> 00:40:06,815
Speaker 12: off the roof for a while enough.

674
00:40:07,015 --> 00:40:10,415
Speaker 6: Yeah sure, yeah, that's what shape.

675
00:40:11,495 --> 00:40:15,295
Speaker 5: Okay, Look, I think the idea would be I agree

676
00:40:15,335 --> 00:40:17,975
Speaker 5: with you pulling the old lead heads out. And there's

677
00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,935
Speaker 5: a bit of a trick to doing that without damaging

678
00:40:20,015 --> 00:40:22,175
Speaker 5: the corrigo die. So if you can take the lead

679
00:40:22,215 --> 00:40:24,135
Speaker 5: heads out, and ideally you want to try and pull

680
00:40:24,215 --> 00:40:27,615
Speaker 5: those out as straight up as possible, right so that

681
00:40:27,815 --> 00:40:30,695
Speaker 5: stops it making a bigger hole through the top of

682
00:40:30,735 --> 00:40:33,815
Speaker 5: the corrugate. So get the lead heads out. In most

683
00:40:33,935 --> 00:40:36,135
Speaker 5: cases you'll find that if you get them out neatly,

684
00:40:36,455 --> 00:40:39,375
Speaker 5: the screw that you use with a neoprene washer on

685
00:40:39,455 --> 00:40:41,735
Speaker 5: it will be enough to cover the hole. And in

686
00:40:41,855 --> 00:40:44,695
Speaker 5: the occasional one where it doesn't, I would you could

687
00:40:44,695 --> 00:40:46,895
Speaker 5: add a larger washer if you want to, or just

688
00:40:46,975 --> 00:40:49,735
Speaker 5: put a dob of silicon in there. When you've pulled

689
00:40:49,735 --> 00:40:51,935
Speaker 5: the nail out I would be inclined to treat the

690
00:40:52,015 --> 00:40:55,575
Speaker 5: area with a bit of rust converter and then some

691
00:40:55,895 --> 00:40:59,295
Speaker 5: russ killed primer, and then eventually you'll put a new

692
00:40:59,335 --> 00:41:03,015
Speaker 5: acrylic coat over the top. It's job done, So that's

693
00:41:03,055 --> 00:41:05,815
Speaker 5: how I would approach it. But the key is getting

694
00:41:05,855 --> 00:41:08,815
Speaker 5: the nail out straight up and not making that whole

695
00:41:08,895 --> 00:41:11,775
Speaker 5: much bigger radio. Thanks for that, Gerald, all the very best.

696
00:41:11,895 --> 00:41:15,135
Speaker 5: We are back straight after news, sport and weather measure

697
00:41:15,175 --> 00:41:19,135
Speaker 5: twice God was but maybe called Pete first video WOLFCAF

698
00:41:19,335 --> 00:41:25,455
Speaker 5: the resident builder news talk, sa'd be radio. That must

699
00:41:25,495 --> 00:41:27,775
Speaker 5: be my turn. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

700
00:41:27,935 --> 00:41:31,095
Speaker 5: is the number to call. I don't know why someone's

701
00:41:31,095 --> 00:41:32,775
Speaker 5: texting me about the All Blacks, but.

702
00:41:32,895 --> 00:41:34,335
Speaker 10: Hey, um.

703
00:41:36,415 --> 00:41:39,935
Speaker 5: Can Oh here's sorry, just a completely random text. This's fascinating.

704
00:41:40,255 --> 00:41:42,855
Speaker 5: Can you recommend a silicon spray to squirt on galvanized

705
00:41:42,895 --> 00:41:46,335
Speaker 5: chicken wire prevent to that is, preventing the starlings from

706
00:41:46,415 --> 00:41:48,655
Speaker 5: nesting in the corners of the spouting and under the eaves.

707
00:41:48,695 --> 00:41:52,255
Speaker 5: The chicken wire will eventually rust being near the coast,

708
00:41:52,295 --> 00:41:54,095
Speaker 5: but we want to slow it down if possible. The

709
00:41:54,175 --> 00:41:56,575
Speaker 5: roof and spouting a powder coated metal and are seven

710
00:41:56,655 --> 00:41:59,255
Speaker 5: years old. Okay, that's not where I thought it was

711
00:41:59,295 --> 00:42:01,415
Speaker 5: going to go. I would suggest that you rip out

712
00:42:01,535 --> 00:42:07,135
Speaker 5: that galvanized chicken wire and replace it with plastics, right,

713
00:42:07,855 --> 00:42:11,335
Speaker 5: because that won't rust and almost anything that you could

714
00:42:11,335 --> 00:42:13,175
Speaker 5: spray on, you're still going to miss a spot and

715
00:42:13,295 --> 00:42:14,175
Speaker 5: you're going to get the rust.

716
00:42:14,215 --> 00:42:14,695
Speaker 9: So I do that.

717
00:42:15,735 --> 00:42:17,455
Speaker 5: The reason that I perked up with that one is

718
00:42:18,855 --> 00:42:21,415
Speaker 5: a place that I look after suddenly has had birds

719
00:42:21,535 --> 00:42:25,295
Speaker 5: roosting in the veranda roof. And the reason I know

720
00:42:25,375 --> 00:42:28,175
Speaker 5: that is because there's droppings all over the veranda and

721
00:42:28,255 --> 00:42:30,375
Speaker 5: the handrail. And I was there the other day and

722
00:42:30,455 --> 00:42:32,175
Speaker 5: I washed all of that down and I went back

723
00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:34,295
Speaker 5: a couple of days later and it's all covered in

724
00:42:34,335 --> 00:42:37,455
Speaker 5: bird pil again. So I'm going to try I've never

725
00:42:37,535 --> 00:42:40,575
Speaker 5: tried the stuff before, the sort of no bird's gel

726
00:42:40,895 --> 00:42:44,175
Speaker 5: that you can squirt into these areas and it dissuades

727
00:42:44,255 --> 00:42:46,655
Speaker 5: them from hanging around there. But I've got to wash

728
00:42:46,695 --> 00:42:49,735
Speaker 5: it first. So that means today possibly I'll go and

729
00:42:49,815 --> 00:42:52,535
Speaker 5: do some water blasting, ah, clean all that up, and

730
00:42:52,615 --> 00:42:54,975
Speaker 5: then apply that gel. If you've had luck with the

731
00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:59,575
Speaker 5: gel and you've got a moment, just let me quick

732
00:42:59,655 --> 00:43:02,655
Speaker 5: Text nine to two. Does it actually work? Oh wait,

733
00:43:02,655 --> 00:43:05,375
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty ten eighty, let's get amongst the calls,

734
00:43:05,415 --> 00:43:07,815
Speaker 5: the conversation, Judy, good morning to you.

735
00:43:09,575 --> 00:43:10,335
Speaker 13: Hi there people.

736
00:43:12,295 --> 00:43:16,735
Speaker 14: I just need some advice. I've got a unit, it's

737
00:43:17,215 --> 00:43:20,895
Speaker 14: a cross cross lease, and I need some advice on

738
00:43:21,015 --> 00:43:25,055
Speaker 14: a party wall. The next door neighbors have placed their

739
00:43:25,215 --> 00:43:30,255
Speaker 14: garden on this party wall, and I'm finding there's mold

740
00:43:30,655 --> 00:43:32,615
Speaker 14: coming through into my bedroom.

741
00:43:32,975 --> 00:43:33,135
Speaker 7: Yep.

742
00:43:34,295 --> 00:43:35,255
Speaker 15: Is this the cause?

743
00:43:35,375 --> 00:43:36,055
Speaker 9: Do you think.

744
00:43:37,495 --> 00:43:40,215
Speaker 5: Possibly? When you say they've placed the garden against it,

745
00:43:40,335 --> 00:43:42,415
Speaker 5: have they like built a planter box and then filled

746
00:43:42,455 --> 00:43:45,255
Speaker 5: it with soil and that's against the cladding above the

747
00:43:45,375 --> 00:43:45,975
Speaker 5: floor level.

748
00:43:47,295 --> 00:43:52,175
Speaker 14: No, it's it's two units. My unit that's lower than

749
00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:56,135
Speaker 14: their unit, and I've put a fence in between the

750
00:43:56,215 --> 00:43:59,575
Speaker 14: two units. If you can sort of get the idea

751
00:43:59,895 --> 00:44:05,375
Speaker 14: and dub that filled all their section up against the

752
00:44:05,495 --> 00:44:08,855
Speaker 14: party wall. So it's probably about four feet deep.

753
00:44:10,775 --> 00:44:14,775
Speaker 5: And the party wall that you describe, is that part

754
00:44:14,855 --> 00:44:18,535
Speaker 5: of that is exterior and it backs onto your habitable space.

755
00:44:19,455 --> 00:44:20,175
Speaker 14: Yes, that's right.

756
00:44:20,655 --> 00:44:23,295
Speaker 5: And then they've backfilled against that, so there's soil where

757
00:44:23,335 --> 00:44:28,175
Speaker 5: there wasn't soil before. Yes, And the leaking has come

758
00:44:28,255 --> 00:44:29,935
Speaker 5: about after they've done that.

759
00:44:31,095 --> 00:44:31,575
Speaker 15: I think.

760
00:44:31,735 --> 00:44:37,135
Speaker 14: So it happened before I actually came here. I haven't

761
00:44:37,255 --> 00:44:42,855
Speaker 14: noticed it until probably a couple of years, and now

762
00:44:43,055 --> 00:44:46,175
Speaker 14: that is causing a lot of Well, I think it

763
00:44:46,335 --> 00:44:49,615
Speaker 14: is there's mold in that corner where the party wall is.

764
00:44:51,415 --> 00:44:54,935
Speaker 5: I think it's not an unreasonable assumption to make. I mean,

765
00:44:54,975 --> 00:44:58,135
Speaker 5: if the building when it was designed had you know,

766
00:44:58,295 --> 00:45:00,575
Speaker 5: the wall was there and lots of fresh air on

767
00:45:00,575 --> 00:45:03,935
Speaker 5: one side of it, and now there isn't any fresh

768
00:45:03,975 --> 00:45:06,055
Speaker 5: air and there's lots of soil pushed up against it,

769
00:45:06,455 --> 00:45:10,175
Speaker 5: is going to hold moisture. And if there was either

770
00:45:10,335 --> 00:45:14,055
Speaker 5: no or inadequate waterproofing against that wall, then yes, you

771
00:45:14,095 --> 00:45:16,255
Speaker 5: can imagine the water is held there by the soil

772
00:45:16,335 --> 00:45:20,255
Speaker 5: it's being deposited, and then that's literally just soaking through

773
00:45:20,335 --> 00:45:22,895
Speaker 5: the block work and then it will saturate the space,

774
00:45:22,975 --> 00:45:25,855
Speaker 5: and even if it's not a leak, it will introduce

775
00:45:25,935 --> 00:45:28,495
Speaker 5: so much moisture that it will give the right conditions

776
00:45:28,575 --> 00:45:31,615
Speaker 5: for mold to grow. So I think you're probably onto

777
00:45:31,695 --> 00:45:39,495
Speaker 5: something given that it's a cross lease title, unless in

778
00:45:39,735 --> 00:45:42,735
Speaker 5: the cross lease agreement there is such a thing as

779
00:45:42,935 --> 00:45:48,575
Speaker 5: exclusive rights to a certain area. Yes, there is, ah Okay,

780
00:45:48,855 --> 00:45:52,175
Speaker 5: that's interesting. I'm just wondering whether that might mean that

781
00:45:52,295 --> 00:45:55,655
Speaker 5: it's a little bit more challenging for you to intervene

782
00:45:55,695 --> 00:45:57,735
Speaker 5: and to go to the neighbor and say, look, I

783
00:45:57,855 --> 00:46:00,575
Speaker 5: need you to remove this because it's causing issues with

784
00:46:00,735 --> 00:46:01,535
Speaker 5: my building.

785
00:46:02,695 --> 00:46:06,895
Speaker 14: Yes, the exclusive rights are that I can actually go

786
00:46:07,135 --> 00:46:09,535
Speaker 14: on to their property on that side and they can

787
00:46:09,615 --> 00:46:12,175
Speaker 14: come onto mine. But now there's a fence in between

788
00:46:12,255 --> 00:46:16,855
Speaker 14: the two and the back filled the garden. That can't happen, right,

789
00:46:17,975 --> 00:46:20,575
Speaker 14: Not that I want to anyway, but I just know

790
00:46:20,735 --> 00:46:23,775
Speaker 14: what it is I can do to get this removed

791
00:46:23,815 --> 00:46:24,815
Speaker 14: off the party wall.

792
00:46:25,255 --> 00:46:28,175
Speaker 5: Look, I think from what you have described, it's not

793
00:46:29,415 --> 00:46:33,815
Speaker 5: unreasonable to say, hey, look, particularly if your floor level

794
00:46:33,975 --> 00:46:37,175
Speaker 5: is lower than the ground level that they've created. It

795
00:46:37,375 --> 00:46:40,215
Speaker 5: wasn't the original ground level. They've created it by backfilling it,

796
00:46:40,815 --> 00:46:43,655
Speaker 5: and they've put soil up against what's the wall. Is

797
00:46:43,695 --> 00:46:46,295
Speaker 5: it just a concrete block wall, standard concrete block wall.

798
00:46:46,775 --> 00:46:50,255
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's the nineteen seventies units that's got there, just

799
00:46:50,335 --> 00:46:51,055
Speaker 14: the block wall.

800
00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:51,575
Speaker 6: Yeah.

801
00:46:51,735 --> 00:46:54,655
Speaker 5: And so there's no waterproofing membrane against that block wall.

802
00:46:54,695 --> 00:46:57,455
Speaker 5: There's probably no drainage at the bottom of that block wall.

803
00:46:58,295 --> 00:46:58,975
Speaker 14: That's correct.

804
00:46:59,135 --> 00:47:02,175
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, look, I think that's most likely the cause.

805
00:47:04,015 --> 00:47:10,295
Speaker 5: So I mean, theoretically they could excavate all of that

806
00:47:10,455 --> 00:47:16,335
Speaker 5: material out, thoroughly waterproof the wall, add drainage, and backfill

807
00:47:16,415 --> 00:47:18,975
Speaker 5: it and not have that cause a problem to you.

808
00:47:19,935 --> 00:47:22,335
Speaker 14: I have asked them, and I have got quotes which

809
00:47:22,335 --> 00:47:25,335
Speaker 14: I've given them. Of course they are refusing to pay,

810
00:47:25,935 --> 00:47:26,855
Speaker 14: but I just point of.

811
00:47:26,895 --> 00:47:28,375
Speaker 16: What my rights are.

812
00:47:30,215 --> 00:47:33,135
Speaker 5: I think the strongest point would be that when the

813
00:47:33,215 --> 00:47:37,295
Speaker 5: building was constructed, the ground level was lower, and that

814
00:47:37,415 --> 00:47:40,455
Speaker 5: they have altered or someone has altered, whether it was

815
00:47:40,535 --> 00:47:43,215
Speaker 5: their or the previous owner, it kind of doesn't matter.

816
00:47:43,415 --> 00:47:47,575
Speaker 5: It's their responsibility. I think that he was never intended

817
00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:50,495
Speaker 5: to be a retaining wall, which is what it's become. Right,

818
00:47:51,095 --> 00:47:53,415
Speaker 5: So a block wall is a block wall, and a

819
00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:55,575
Speaker 5: retaining wall might be made out of block, but it

820
00:47:55,655 --> 00:47:59,375
Speaker 5: doesn't make it a retaining wall. And because it was

821
00:47:59,495 --> 00:48:03,615
Speaker 5: never designed to be a retaining wall, it's causing moisture

822
00:48:03,775 --> 00:48:08,375
Speaker 5: or moisture is accumulating there, and so I think I

823
00:48:08,455 --> 00:48:10,295
Speaker 5: would think that you do have a right to say

824
00:48:10,415 --> 00:48:13,295
Speaker 5: it needs to be removed because it was not there originally,

825
00:48:13,495 --> 00:48:17,455
Speaker 5: and by making a change and not allowing for drainage

826
00:48:17,455 --> 00:48:23,975
Speaker 5: and waterproofing. Your building is suffering as a result, it is.

827
00:48:24,295 --> 00:48:26,375
Speaker 14: How can I enforce that If they're not willing to

828
00:48:26,455 --> 00:48:27,735
Speaker 14: actually do anything.

829
00:48:28,735 --> 00:48:32,895
Speaker 5: I suspect it becomes a matter for lawyers in terms

830
00:48:32,935 --> 00:48:35,455
Speaker 5: of enforcing your rights under the Property Act.

831
00:48:36,895 --> 00:48:41,015
Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, all right, So you just think I need

832
00:48:41,095 --> 00:48:43,855
Speaker 14: to go forward with a lawyer to actually get this.

833
00:48:44,135 --> 00:48:50,135
Speaker 5: I think if they're going to be unreasonable, then yes, probably. Okay,

834
00:48:51,015 --> 00:48:52,655
Speaker 5: you've got to do something that's enforceable.

835
00:48:53,575 --> 00:48:54,295
Speaker 14: Yes, that's right.

836
00:48:55,415 --> 00:48:57,135
Speaker 5: Okay, sorry to hear that.

837
00:48:57,935 --> 00:48:59,055
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a bad one, but.

838
00:49:00,415 --> 00:49:02,335
Speaker 5: I think you're on the right track. Good luck with that.

839
00:49:03,815 --> 00:49:06,135
Speaker 5: Take care of all of this study, Bye bye. Actually

840
00:49:06,415 --> 00:49:10,935
Speaker 5: talking about cross leases next week on the program, Ben Thompson,

841
00:49:10,975 --> 00:49:13,655
Speaker 5: who is a lawyer who specializes in cross lease. And

842
00:49:13,695 --> 00:49:17,615
Speaker 5: when I say specializes, like when I talked to him

843
00:49:17,615 --> 00:49:19,295
Speaker 5: a little while ago before he came on the show

844
00:49:19,295 --> 00:49:22,655
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks months ago, he'd just been presenting

845
00:49:22,735 --> 00:49:25,815
Speaker 5: to the Law Society about cross leases. Anyway, we had

846
00:49:25,815 --> 00:49:28,335
Speaker 5: a great session with him last time he was on,

847
00:49:28,655 --> 00:49:30,895
Speaker 5: and I've reached out to him to say, look, could

848
00:49:30,935 --> 00:49:33,135
Speaker 5: you join us again next Sunday on the program, so

849
00:49:33,255 --> 00:49:37,295
Speaker 5: after eight o'clock next week and can we take some questions.

850
00:49:37,495 --> 00:49:41,415
Speaker 5: So next week, if you've got a specific question about

851
00:49:41,575 --> 00:49:45,335
Speaker 5: cross leases, we can get some answers from a lawyer

852
00:49:45,335 --> 00:49:47,535
Speaker 5: who specializes, and that Ben will be with me on

853
00:49:47,655 --> 00:49:50,775
Speaker 5: the show next Sunday. Really looking forward to that. Coming

854
00:49:50,855 --> 00:49:54,215
Speaker 5: upteen minutes after seven round quarter to eight, we're going

855
00:49:54,295 --> 00:49:59,135
Speaker 5: to catch up with Mike Olds from Razine Construction. Good

856
00:49:59,215 --> 00:50:03,135
Speaker 5: timing because earlier this week, I think it was it

857
00:50:03,215 --> 00:50:05,775
Speaker 5: was Wednesday morning and I was at my desk doing

858
00:50:05,775 --> 00:50:07,455
Speaker 5: I've got a pap work in the phone rings and

859
00:50:07,495 --> 00:50:10,375
Speaker 5: it was like a number that i'd recognize, and the

860
00:50:10,415 --> 00:50:12,535
Speaker 5: guy goes, oh, hi, it's I won't say his name,

861
00:50:13,535 --> 00:50:16,455
Speaker 5: and I thought I would reach out because I listened

862
00:50:16,455 --> 00:50:20,495
Speaker 5: to the show, and I'm like, okay, just to be blunt,

863
00:50:20,575 --> 00:50:23,855
Speaker 5: my number is not easy to find for a reason. Anyway,

864
00:50:24,295 --> 00:50:27,295
Speaker 5: he called and said, look, I'm interested in a property

865
00:50:27,895 --> 00:50:29,775
Speaker 5: that's up for sale and it's got rock coat on

866
00:50:30,055 --> 00:50:34,535
Speaker 5: the exterior, which is a Razine Construction system's render on

867
00:50:34,655 --> 00:50:36,895
Speaker 5: the exterior. Can you tell me much about it? And

868
00:50:36,935 --> 00:50:39,535
Speaker 5: I said, well, look, yeah, I think so because these

869
00:50:39,615 --> 00:50:42,015
Speaker 5: things have got records, right, because I know the people

870
00:50:42,255 --> 00:50:45,775
Speaker 5: at Razine Construction, and they'll probably have some records of

871
00:50:45,815 --> 00:50:49,895
Speaker 5: the job. It's a two thy twelve constructed house by

872
00:50:49,975 --> 00:50:54,495
Speaker 5: well known builder in a relatively new subdivision. So I

873
00:50:54,615 --> 00:50:59,335
Speaker 5: contacted the mic at Razine Construction, said, look, this chepie's

874
00:50:59,535 --> 00:51:01,735
Speaker 5: phoned me and I'll help him out. Can you have

875
00:51:01,815 --> 00:51:04,655
Speaker 5: a look on your records, and within minutes he was

876
00:51:04,735 --> 00:51:07,935
Speaker 5: able to bring up who the contractor was when the

877
00:51:08,055 --> 00:51:11,735
Speaker 5: job was done, what the building consent was records of

878
00:51:11,855 --> 00:51:14,455
Speaker 5: all of the inspections done not by counsel but by

879
00:51:14,575 --> 00:51:18,095
Speaker 5: their own team, right, so their own people go and

880
00:51:18,295 --> 00:51:22,655
Speaker 5: inspect the work, Photographs of it under construction, so showing

881
00:51:22,735 --> 00:51:27,335
Speaker 5: the fixing, showing the flashings, showing the sealant, showing ground clearances,

882
00:51:27,615 --> 00:51:30,815
Speaker 5: showing the ventilation, all of that sort of thing, and

883
00:51:30,935 --> 00:51:33,095
Speaker 5: then a certificate to say that the building has been

884
00:51:33,175 --> 00:51:36,455
Speaker 5: completed and all of that is kept. And what really

885
00:51:36,495 --> 00:51:39,615
Speaker 5: impressed me about that is I'm struggling to think of

886
00:51:39,695 --> 00:51:44,655
Speaker 5: another cladding system in the country that would have that

887
00:51:44,815 --> 00:51:48,655
Speaker 5: level of detail about it. And if we're moving towards

888
00:51:48,695 --> 00:51:51,215
Speaker 5: self certification, if we're moving towards being able to build

889
00:51:51,215 --> 00:51:55,015
Speaker 5: Grannie flats without having council do the inspections. I think

890
00:51:55,175 --> 00:51:58,575
Speaker 5: that's an example of what companies should be providing if

891
00:51:58,655 --> 00:52:01,015
Speaker 5: your product's going to be used in a situation where

892
00:52:01,055 --> 00:52:04,655
Speaker 5: it doesn't get or doesn't require a building consent. Takes

893
00:52:04,695 --> 00:52:05,535
Speaker 5: some comments on that too.

894
00:52:06,335 --> 00:52:08,455
Speaker 6: Morning to you, sir, Good morning.

895
00:52:08,535 --> 00:52:09,655
Speaker 9: How are you good, buddy?

896
00:52:09,695 --> 00:52:11,175
Speaker 10: In yourself good?

897
00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:14,815
Speaker 17: I've been the last few wns. I've been running around

898
00:52:14,895 --> 00:52:19,975
Speaker 17: the city in him open here looking for stuff to pull.

899
00:52:21,295 --> 00:52:27,255
Speaker 17: We've got going to put in this plank flooring, and

900
00:52:28,055 --> 00:52:30,175
Speaker 17: the hyprin one we're going to.

901
00:52:30,215 --> 00:52:30,975
Speaker 10: Put in, and.

902
00:52:32,615 --> 00:52:38,575
Speaker 17: Some of the floorboards. The flooring in the kitchen is

903
00:52:38,975 --> 00:52:41,775
Speaker 17: just flaking air that chipboard.

904
00:52:41,855 --> 00:52:42,215
Speaker 7: When you.

905
00:52:43,975 --> 00:52:49,135
Speaker 17: And I've been eblewhere to get this something to level

906
00:52:49,215 --> 00:52:54,095
Speaker 17: the floor off? I asked him about you know this

907
00:52:55,175 --> 00:53:01,815
Speaker 17: floor leveler, and I can't use it on wooden floors,

908
00:53:02,295 --> 00:53:04,975
Speaker 17: don't matter which one it is, the multi purpose one

909
00:53:05,015 --> 00:53:08,535
Speaker 17: of that do if you can't use them on wooden fools.

910
00:53:09,255 --> 00:53:13,255
Speaker 17: So I want to use the build this book for

911
00:53:14,095 --> 00:53:15,615
Speaker 17: Can I use that instead?

912
00:53:18,135 --> 00:53:20,175
Speaker 5: I think, well, I suppose one of the concerns is

913
00:53:20,255 --> 00:53:22,855
Speaker 5: that nothing It's it's going to be really hard for

914
00:53:22,975 --> 00:53:27,215
Speaker 5: something to stick to the timber floor, right, it won't

915
00:53:27,375 --> 00:53:31,575
Speaker 5: bond and then potentially you put your new laminate floor,

916
00:53:31,615 --> 00:53:34,535
Speaker 5: your hybrid floor over the top, and then the material

917
00:53:34,655 --> 00:53:38,495
Speaker 5: underneath that you've used for leveling delaminates and starts to rumble,

918
00:53:38,775 --> 00:53:49,615
Speaker 5: right that that's what the concern would be. I I'm

919
00:53:49,655 --> 00:53:53,735
Speaker 5: wondering whether, like how how out of level is it?

920
00:53:55,735 --> 00:53:56,415
Speaker 17: What would say.

921
00:53:58,815 --> 00:54:00,375
Speaker 5: How out of level is the floor?

922
00:54:01,095 --> 00:54:05,735
Speaker 17: Like obviously having all but there's just a few dips,

923
00:54:05,815 --> 00:54:09,335
Speaker 17: you know, it's the chip board is coming out, you know,

924
00:54:10,895 --> 00:54:16,055
Speaker 17: faking then yeah, sure, and we're going to put that

925
00:54:16,935 --> 00:54:20,775
Speaker 17: underfilled under rod as well, because quite but one's got

926
00:54:20,815 --> 00:54:24,775
Speaker 17: that rubbish stuff underneath on it or really and we're

927
00:54:24,815 --> 00:54:26,775
Speaker 17: going to put that in the kitchen?

928
00:54:27,095 --> 00:54:29,015
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, we're going to.

929
00:54:29,055 --> 00:54:30,255
Speaker 17: Put that kind fill.

930
00:54:30,935 --> 00:54:35,775
Speaker 5: I wonder whether you know this is your house right

931
00:54:36,335 --> 00:54:39,495
Speaker 5: that you're doing it, So let's say it doesn't work,

932
00:54:40,615 --> 00:54:45,255
Speaker 5: it's only you to blame, Okay. So I'm just looking

933
00:54:45,255 --> 00:54:49,375
Speaker 5: at this like, if you're working for someone, you'd arguably

934
00:54:49,415 --> 00:54:51,335
Speaker 5: want to do it absolutely right because you don't want

935
00:54:51,375 --> 00:54:53,415
Speaker 5: to someone to call it up and say it didn't work.

936
00:54:53,455 --> 00:54:57,175
Speaker 5: But in this instance, because if you're skimming I don't know,

937
00:54:57,255 --> 00:55:00,175
Speaker 5: five or six millimeters of if LC over the top

938
00:55:00,255 --> 00:55:02,575
Speaker 5: of that. What you might look for is to see

939
00:55:02,615 --> 00:55:05,375
Speaker 5: whether there's like a primer and adhesion primer that you

940
00:55:05,455 --> 00:55:08,175
Speaker 5: could apply to the particle board that will help the

941
00:55:08,375 --> 00:55:11,735
Speaker 5: floor leveling compound to bind to it. I'll be interest

942
00:55:12,335 --> 00:55:15,495
Speaker 5: because I do know a couple of flooring guys who

943
00:55:15,615 --> 00:55:19,255
Speaker 5: might have a product that will stick to timber, and

944
00:55:19,495 --> 00:55:24,255
Speaker 5: possibly the laminate or the hybrid flooring manufacturer or supplier

945
00:55:24,695 --> 00:55:26,575
Speaker 5: might be able to recommend because it can't be an

946
00:55:26,695 --> 00:55:29,575
Speaker 5: uncommon problem, right, Timber floors can be as out of

947
00:55:29,695 --> 00:55:34,215
Speaker 5: levels as a concrete slab, so there may well be

948
00:55:34,295 --> 00:55:37,255
Speaker 5: a product product If there isn't and you used FLC

949
00:55:37,575 --> 00:55:41,255
Speaker 5: and you used it sparingly and only the worst few areas,

950
00:55:42,015 --> 00:55:45,735
Speaker 5: if there was a problem with it later on, well yeah, I've.

951
00:55:45,655 --> 00:55:51,655
Speaker 17: Been aund everywhere and a wrong m Yeah, we've got it.

952
00:55:51,855 --> 00:55:57,655
Speaker 17: You know, a multipurpose one. Windy at the Nakoy had

953
00:55:57,695 --> 00:56:00,415
Speaker 17: a look on the computer and said it said, no,

954
00:56:00,575 --> 00:56:07,015
Speaker 17: it can't be used on board warden flooring, So why

955
00:56:07,215 --> 00:56:10,255
Speaker 17: use a multi purpose? One will make a multi that's right.

956
00:56:11,735 --> 00:56:12,495
Speaker 5: If it's only.

957
00:56:19,255 --> 00:56:21,575
Speaker 17: Must papers means you can use it anyway.

958
00:56:26,215 --> 00:56:26,615
Speaker 10: I mean.

959
00:56:28,895 --> 00:56:30,535
Speaker 17: Yeah, So.

960
00:56:32,015 --> 00:56:32,415
Speaker 10: And there we go.

961
00:56:33,655 --> 00:56:36,055
Speaker 5: Here we go rd X K sixty five.

962
00:56:37,855 --> 00:56:39,695
Speaker 13: R X A r D e x.

963
00:56:41,455 --> 00:56:46,815
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, formulated to adhere to timber and flexible enough

964
00:56:46,855 --> 00:56:50,255
Speaker 5: to accommodate timber movement. You do a primer and then

965
00:56:50,335 --> 00:56:53,215
Speaker 5: you do an Ardix floor leveling compound. There you go,

966
00:56:53,575 --> 00:56:54,295
Speaker 5: problem solved.

967
00:56:55,215 --> 00:56:58,775
Speaker 3: Ardix A R D e x who makes it?

968
00:56:59,215 --> 00:57:00,855
Speaker 5: Ardix do that's the company?

969
00:57:01,295 --> 00:57:05,895
Speaker 9: So A R D e X O A d X.

970
00:57:06,415 --> 00:57:06,615
Speaker 7: Yeah.

971
00:57:07,575 --> 00:57:12,175
Speaker 5: Well, just just jump online see if you can find

972
00:57:12,335 --> 00:57:14,775
Speaker 5: a local supply. It might be a specialist store, it

973
00:57:14,855 --> 00:57:20,215
Speaker 5: might be a tiling shop or possibly just sooner you're called.

974
00:57:20,295 --> 00:57:22,735
Speaker 17: I've been to all those places, you know they deal

975
00:57:22,815 --> 00:57:24,495
Speaker 17: and floor and they can tell me.

976
00:57:24,895 --> 00:57:28,495
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, look Ardis, I mean I know the brand.

977
00:57:28,535 --> 00:57:31,415
Speaker 5: I've used their products over the years. Just get in

978
00:57:31,455 --> 00:57:35,055
Speaker 5: contact with them and and it's a Ardix K sixty

979
00:57:35,175 --> 00:57:39,135
Speaker 5: five will probably help you out there, all right, make

980
00:57:39,215 --> 00:57:42,855
Speaker 5: all the very best problem take care about it. Take care,

981
00:57:43,255 --> 00:57:45,255
Speaker 5: uh andy, just hold the line, but it will come

982
00:57:45,335 --> 00:57:48,735
Speaker 5: to you in just a moment. It is twenty three

983
00:57:48,815 --> 00:57:50,055
Speaker 5: minutes after seven.

984
00:57:50,655 --> 00:57:53,575
Speaker 3: Doing other house storting. The garden asked Pete for ahead.

985
00:57:53,855 --> 00:58:00,815
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfkere calls you and a.

986
00:58:00,855 --> 00:58:05,335
Speaker 5: Couple of texts as well a craggy This is frustrating. Hey, pek,

987
00:58:05,375 --> 00:58:09,175
Speaker 5: my neighbor has dire did new spouting from the three

988
00:58:09,255 --> 00:58:12,135
Speaker 5: story townhouse or three story house onto the carport roof

989
00:58:12,215 --> 00:58:14,295
Speaker 5: onto the lawn into a ditch that he dug next

990
00:58:14,335 --> 00:58:18,015
Speaker 5: to our joint fence. The paving area is gushing rain

991
00:58:18,095 --> 00:58:21,895
Speaker 5: water from the carports, spouting lawn floods next to this

992
00:58:22,095 --> 00:58:24,495
Speaker 5: joint fence, So the fence between the two properties where

993
00:58:24,495 --> 00:58:26,695
Speaker 5: he's dug a ditch for the spouting water from his roof.

994
00:58:27,335 --> 00:58:29,495
Speaker 5: I've spoken to him many times for quite a while now,

995
00:58:29,495 --> 00:58:32,695
Speaker 5: and he does nothing. I told the Wellington Council and

996
00:58:32,775 --> 00:58:35,055
Speaker 5: they've told me it's a civil matter and I'll need

997
00:58:35,135 --> 00:58:37,335
Speaker 5: to take him to the tribunal or to court. I

998
00:58:37,415 --> 00:58:41,735
Speaker 5: can't afford that I agree with your sentiments. I mean,

999
00:58:42,055 --> 00:58:44,255
Speaker 5: the fact is the neighbor needs to control the stormwater

1000
00:58:44,375 --> 00:58:47,455
Speaker 5: right and it's absolutely their responsibility and obligation to do

1001
00:58:47,575 --> 00:58:52,135
Speaker 5: exactly that in terms of enforcing it. If the building

1002
00:58:53,815 --> 00:58:58,175
Speaker 5: is older and might not have a building consent, then

1003
00:58:58,615 --> 00:59:00,855
Speaker 5: it's hard to go back to the council and go hey,

1004
00:59:00,895 --> 00:59:03,535
Speaker 5: look it's a problem with the building consent. The conditions

1005
00:59:03,535 --> 00:59:07,135
Speaker 5: of the building consent haven't been met, so I'd look

1006
00:59:07,175 --> 00:59:10,815
Speaker 5: into that first. Actually, is it relatively new? Does it

1007
00:59:10,895 --> 00:59:13,815
Speaker 5: have a building consent? The building consent will detail how

1008
00:59:14,415 --> 00:59:19,695
Speaker 5: the storm water is mitigated or controlled, and if they

1009
00:59:19,735 --> 00:59:24,615
Speaker 5: haven't done those controls then it is a council issue. Thereafter, Yeah,

1010
00:59:24,655 --> 00:59:27,495
Speaker 5: you probably have to go to the tribunal, but getting

1011
00:59:27,575 --> 00:59:30,535
Speaker 5: enforcement on that sort of thing is difficult and if

1012
00:59:30,575 --> 00:59:33,495
Speaker 5: people don't want to do the right thing. Interestingly enough, though,

1013
00:59:33,575 --> 00:59:39,735
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking about this water care in Auckland, who

1014
00:59:39,775 --> 00:59:41,215
Speaker 5: to be blunts seemed to be doing a hell of

1015
00:59:41,255 --> 00:59:45,935
Speaker 5: a lot better job than Wellington Water does have actually

1016
00:59:46,175 --> 00:59:50,055
Speaker 5: taken the initiative of sending people out to pick up

1017
00:59:50,135 --> 00:59:53,255
Speaker 5: on these sorts of things. So a downpipe that discharges

1018
00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:57,375
Speaker 5: onto the ground or onto a pathway with no obvious controls,

1019
00:59:58,335 --> 01:00:00,815
Speaker 5: they'll literally go up, knock on the door and go, hey,

1020
01:00:01,335 --> 01:00:02,935
Speaker 5: we've noticed that you're going to have a bit of

1021
01:00:02,975 --> 01:00:05,695
Speaker 5: a problem here, or even if you don't, your neighbors

1022
01:00:05,775 --> 01:00:08,895
Speaker 5: probably will. What are you going to do about it?

1023
01:00:09,175 --> 01:00:11,735
Speaker 5: So they're being proactive, which I think is great to

1024
01:00:11,815 --> 01:00:15,455
Speaker 5: be fair, because you know, in these times, with the

1025
01:00:15,535 --> 01:00:19,375
Speaker 5: amount of water that we're getting. It's increasingly a problem

1026
01:00:19,455 --> 01:00:23,455
Speaker 5: if you and I, as individual homeowners don't take responsibility

1027
01:00:23,535 --> 01:00:26,935
Speaker 5: for the water that we are collecting. Oh eight one

1028
01:00:26,975 --> 01:00:28,855
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call glen us.

1029
01:00:28,895 --> 01:00:31,735
Speaker 15: Hello, Oh how are you? I've lost my boys?

1030
01:00:31,815 --> 01:00:35,375
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm sure sure you found it again just a

1031
01:00:35,415 --> 01:00:35,815
Speaker 5: little bit.

1032
01:00:37,175 --> 01:00:39,975
Speaker 15: And my birthday to day too, so that's oh, happy birthday.

1033
01:00:40,375 --> 01:00:43,455
Speaker 15: I know what a data happen in. I've got a

1034
01:00:43,535 --> 01:00:46,655
Speaker 15: Healthy homes form sure. In two thousand and nine, they

1035
01:00:46,815 --> 01:00:50,815
Speaker 15: insulated this seading with fluff. The thickness is two point

1036
01:00:50,975 --> 01:00:55,735
Speaker 15: nine and it's got pulleys to acrylic carpet on the floor.

1037
01:00:55,815 --> 01:00:58,615
Speaker 15: You can't go under the house, and that is one

1038
01:00:58,735 --> 01:01:03,855
Speaker 15: point one point three meters. Now this carpet on the

1039
01:01:03,895 --> 01:01:06,015
Speaker 15: floor is and he's sitting on the concrete on the

1040
01:01:06,135 --> 01:01:09,175
Speaker 15: concrete underneath. Because I've got an open planned lounge and

1041
01:01:09,295 --> 01:01:13,055
Speaker 15: kitchen here upstairs, there's a got a fan heater. That said,

1042
01:01:13,375 --> 01:01:15,775
Speaker 15: my bedroom's got a heater. The spare room hasn't got

1043
01:01:15,815 --> 01:01:18,695
Speaker 15: a heater. They put like a heat pump in, but

1044
01:01:18,815 --> 01:01:21,095
Speaker 15: it's got air conditioner written on it right by the

1045
01:01:21,175 --> 01:01:25,175
Speaker 15: front door. Basically, the house is still cold. It's pubably

1046
01:01:25,175 --> 01:01:29,095
Speaker 15: because it's concrete. I'm not used to concrete houses. Now,

1047
01:01:29,135 --> 01:01:32,695
Speaker 15: my power was rising up like a warmer than what

1048
01:01:32,815 --> 01:01:35,855
Speaker 15: the house is at the moment. I don't know what

1049
01:01:36,055 --> 01:01:40,895
Speaker 15: to do. It's more's paying power for nothing, you know.

1050
01:01:42,255 --> 01:01:44,415
Speaker 5: Look, this is one of the challenges with the heating

1051
01:01:44,535 --> 01:01:47,655
Speaker 5: requirement for the Healthy Home standards is that you know,

1052
01:01:48,135 --> 01:01:52,215
Speaker 5: in order to comply, the landlord will need to put

1053
01:01:52,295 --> 01:01:54,655
Speaker 5: in a fixed form of heating that can get your

1054
01:01:54,775 --> 01:01:57,935
Speaker 5: room to or that the living room only the living room.

1055
01:01:58,255 --> 01:02:00,935
Speaker 5: But if the living room has a staircase or is

1056
01:02:01,175 --> 01:02:04,695
Speaker 5: open plan, then it ends up being quite a large area.

1057
01:02:06,015 --> 01:02:08,055
Speaker 15: To thirty feet long from the front door to the

1058
01:02:08,135 --> 01:02:09,055
Speaker 15: ranch ludders here.

1059
01:02:09,495 --> 01:02:11,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is the house to story.

1060
01:02:12,055 --> 01:02:14,975
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's one of those then no, but joined on

1061
01:02:15,095 --> 01:02:15,535
Speaker 15: to people.

1062
01:02:15,735 --> 01:02:17,895
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then see for that. If you're doing a

1063
01:02:17,975 --> 01:02:21,175
Speaker 5: Healthy Homes assessment on the heating, you need to calculate

1064
01:02:21,255 --> 01:02:24,055
Speaker 5: the floor space of the living area, and if that

1065
01:02:24,215 --> 01:02:26,455
Speaker 5: includes the dining area in the kitchen, that's got to

1066
01:02:26,495 --> 01:02:29,535
Speaker 5: be included in it. And then because it's open plan

1067
01:02:29,815 --> 01:02:32,615
Speaker 5: with a staircase, you have to calculate the space of

1068
01:02:32,695 --> 01:02:36,135
Speaker 5: the staircase and the upstairs landing until you get to

1069
01:02:36,255 --> 01:02:38,815
Speaker 5: the doors right to any of the rooms upstairs, So

1070
01:02:39,415 --> 01:02:41,615
Speaker 5: that ends up being quite a large space. If there's

1071
01:02:41,735 --> 01:02:46,735
Speaker 5: also relatively low levels of insulation, then what tends to

1072
01:02:46,775 --> 01:02:49,655
Speaker 5: happen is your heating requirement will will go up quite

1073
01:02:49,695 --> 01:02:55,535
Speaker 5: a lot. So I wonder whether you're the tenant not the.

1074
01:02:57,295 --> 01:02:57,695
Speaker 15: Years here.

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01:02:57,695 --> 01:02:59,935
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're the tenant. So what you could do

1076
01:03:00,135 --> 01:03:04,935
Speaker 5: is ask the landlord to provide an updated heating.

1077
01:03:05,295 --> 01:03:08,175
Speaker 16: Calculation in front of me at the moment.

1078
01:03:08,335 --> 01:03:10,775
Speaker 5: Okay, and what does it give you?

1079
01:03:11,815 --> 01:03:14,135
Speaker 15: Nine when they put the insulation in. But this is

1080
01:03:14,615 --> 01:03:17,655
Speaker 15: it was stated on the thirties, but the insulation was

1081
01:03:17,695 --> 01:03:20,495
Speaker 15: put in on two thousand and nine in the ceiling.

1082
01:03:20,335 --> 01:03:23,415
Speaker 5: Which is fine. But remember the Healthy Homes legislation didn't

1083
01:03:23,455 --> 01:03:25,175
Speaker 5: exist in two thousand and nine, right.

1084
01:03:25,215 --> 01:03:27,935
Speaker 15: So well that's what they've got written down here. Yeah,

1085
01:03:28,135 --> 01:03:31,735
Speaker 15: they say it fits regulation to the house. But because

1086
01:03:31,775 --> 01:03:33,815
Speaker 15: it's so big, it's probably why it's so cold.

1087
01:03:33,975 --> 01:03:34,135
Speaker 17: You know.

1088
01:03:34,935 --> 01:03:38,895
Speaker 5: What I suspect is that the if you did a

1089
01:03:39,415 --> 01:03:43,615
Speaker 5: proper calculation of the heating requirement, what form of heating

1090
01:03:43,655 --> 01:03:47,455
Speaker 5: you've got is probably insufficient and needs to be topped up.

1091
01:03:47,655 --> 01:03:50,455
Speaker 5: And that's I think an obligation on the landlord to

1092
01:03:50,575 --> 01:03:53,335
Speaker 5: do that in order to stay compliant.

1093
01:03:54,255 --> 01:03:56,495
Speaker 15: Yeah, they put the machine of the heat pump in

1094
01:03:56,575 --> 01:03:59,295
Speaker 15: the backyard behind me and full of weeds in the garden,

1095
01:03:59,855 --> 01:04:01,735
Speaker 15: so having it in the front of the house. They've

1096
01:04:01,775 --> 01:04:03,095
Speaker 15: got it at the back of the house.

1097
01:04:03,255 --> 01:04:05,815
Speaker 5: But it doesn't really matter where it is as long

1098
01:04:05,855 --> 01:04:09,455
Speaker 5: as Yeah, but they do need to ventilate, so if

1099
01:04:09,455 --> 01:04:11,095
Speaker 5: the weeds are growing up in front of it, maybe

1100
01:04:11,135 --> 01:04:14,695
Speaker 5: you need to just cut the weeds back a little bit. Yeah,

1101
01:04:15,255 --> 01:04:18,095
Speaker 5: all right, So it'll be about the heating requirements, and

1102
01:04:18,455 --> 01:04:20,735
Speaker 5: I wonder whether they haven't done a great job of

1103
01:04:20,855 --> 01:04:25,255
Speaker 5: the requirements and therefore you're not able to generate the heat.

1104
01:04:25,375 --> 01:04:28,255
Speaker 5: The problem is, and this is often talked about I

1105
01:04:28,295 --> 01:04:31,575
Speaker 5: guess for tenants and landlords, is you can put the

1106
01:04:31,615 --> 01:04:36,095
Speaker 5: heat and requirement in, but to run it requires power.

1107
01:04:36,415 --> 01:04:39,295
Speaker 5: Power is expensive, and so people not to run it.

1108
01:04:40,055 --> 01:04:41,415
Speaker 5: So you can put it in and people won't turn

1109
01:04:41,455 --> 01:04:46,175
Speaker 5: it on. That's what happens too. Robin, greetings to you,

1110
01:04:47,335 --> 01:04:48,975
Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning, Robin.

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01:04:50,575 --> 01:04:54,975
Speaker 16: I've got a query regarding the insulation of my house,

1112
01:04:55,295 --> 01:04:59,975
Speaker 16: sure which I bought in nineteen eighty six, and it

1113
01:05:00,095 --> 01:05:05,735
Speaker 16: was the nineteen seventy five brickhouse New World at the time.

1114
01:05:06,375 --> 01:05:06,535
Speaker 7: Yep.

1115
01:05:06,735 --> 01:05:12,455
Speaker 16: And the insulation of pink bats, which has been very good.

1116
01:05:13,175 --> 01:05:18,495
Speaker 16: Now I'm just wondering whether there's any point in putting

1117
01:05:19,135 --> 01:05:23,055
Speaker 16: a loose layer of a number of more pink bats

1118
01:05:23,375 --> 01:05:28,215
Speaker 16: over the top. I have got two heat pumps, one

1119
01:05:28,295 --> 01:05:33,855
Speaker 16: in the lounge and one up the front hall, which

1120
01:05:33,895 --> 01:05:38,255
Speaker 16: are very effective. No problem with those, but I'm just

1121
01:05:38,415 --> 01:05:43,375
Speaker 16: wondering whether I go to the expense of putting.

1122
01:05:43,495 --> 01:05:45,255
Speaker 5: More insulation into the roof.

1123
01:05:45,895 --> 01:05:47,015
Speaker 16: That's the roof.

1124
01:05:47,415 --> 01:05:51,295
Speaker 5: I would heartily recommend that you do exactly that. So

1125
01:05:51,535 --> 01:05:55,255
Speaker 5: if the insulation was installed all those years ago, and

1126
01:05:55,695 --> 01:05:58,695
Speaker 5: the pink bats and it's nothing. It's not derogatory about

1127
01:05:58,695 --> 01:06:02,655
Speaker 5: the pink bats, but they do sag over time. They settle, right,

1128
01:06:03,175 --> 01:06:07,575
Speaker 5: so the actual insulation value decreases over time. Because they settle,

1129
01:06:07,695 --> 01:06:10,295
Speaker 5: they don't have as much loft. So leave it in

1130
01:06:10,375 --> 01:06:15,015
Speaker 5: there and get an insulation installer to do another layer

1131
01:06:15,255 --> 01:06:18,655
Speaker 5: of insulation over the top of it, and ideally over

1132
01:06:18,735 --> 01:06:20,735
Speaker 5: the top of all of the timber that's in there,

1133
01:06:20,855 --> 01:06:24,655
Speaker 5: so the bottom court of the trusses and as far

1134
01:06:24,855 --> 01:06:27,775
Speaker 5: out to the top plate around the perimeter as they

1135
01:06:27,855 --> 01:06:31,695
Speaker 5: possibly can do have that installed. That will make a

1136
01:06:31,895 --> 01:06:37,255
Speaker 5: significant difference to keeping the heat into the house. Okay, yep,

1137
01:06:37,495 --> 01:06:38,575
Speaker 5: definitely a good idea.

1138
01:06:39,575 --> 01:06:42,015
Speaker 3: Alrighty all, bestie.

1139
01:06:41,735 --> 01:06:42,815
Speaker 5: Robin, you take care.

1140
01:06:44,975 --> 01:06:45,215
Speaker 7: Bye.

1141
01:06:46,295 --> 01:06:48,575
Speaker 5: We'll come back with Jeremy in just a moment. If

1142
01:06:48,575 --> 01:06:50,975
Speaker 5: you've got a question, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1143
01:06:51,015 --> 01:06:51,375
Speaker 5: the number.

1144
01:06:51,615 --> 01:06:54,455
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

1145
01:06:54,535 --> 01:06:56,615
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

1146
01:06:56,695 --> 01:07:01,695
Speaker 1: wolf capercall on eighty the resident builder on youth Dogs'

1147
01:07:01,815 --> 01:07:03,655
Speaker 1: b Right, Oh.

1148
01:07:03,815 --> 01:07:06,975
Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty, then number to call peak

1149
01:07:07,055 --> 01:07:11,495
Speaker 5: the coller with the heat pump problem. I'm exactly sure

1150
01:07:11,535 --> 01:07:13,975
Speaker 5: whether it is actually a heat pump. Should ask the

1151
01:07:14,055 --> 01:07:16,615
Speaker 5: landlord when it was last service, and if she keeps

1152
01:07:16,655 --> 01:07:19,055
Speaker 5: the filters clean, that does make a big difference. Yeah,

1153
01:07:19,095 --> 01:07:23,095
Speaker 5: you're absolutely right, Michael. It's on my list for a

1154
01:07:23,135 --> 01:07:26,575
Speaker 5: couple of places I look after to have the servicing done.

1155
01:07:27,655 --> 01:07:29,615
Speaker 5: It'll probably extend the life of the heat pump, and

1156
01:07:29,695 --> 01:07:32,495
Speaker 5: certainly they perform a lot better if you clean them

1157
01:07:32,535 --> 01:07:36,455
Speaker 5: and look after them. Jeremy, Hello, good morning, Peter. How

1158
01:07:36,495 --> 01:07:38,415
Speaker 5: are we very well? What's up?

1159
01:07:38,415 --> 01:07:38,695
Speaker 7: Good man?

1160
01:07:38,855 --> 01:07:43,935
Speaker 13: Good so at the moment, good rental properly in that.

1161
01:07:44,655 --> 01:07:50,495
Speaker 13: Oh and the nineteen sixties build frickin' tile, like really

1162
01:07:50,535 --> 01:07:54,175
Speaker 13: good home in general on piles and the back patio.

1163
01:07:55,815 --> 01:08:00,055
Speaker 13: It's just like cobbles laid on soil and sand. I've

1164
01:08:00,095 --> 01:08:04,495
Speaker 13: been like that for like years, you know, but it

1165
01:08:04,695 --> 01:08:09,215
Speaker 13: just it's always so damp and just you know, just wet.

1166
01:08:09,935 --> 01:08:19,895
Speaker 13: And so I've hide one of those chained trench and yeah,

1167
01:08:19,935 --> 01:08:27,375
Speaker 13: bro and trench the back, the back, the whole in

1168
01:08:27,495 --> 01:08:30,775
Speaker 13: for the house at back fence, laid on one ten

1169
01:08:30,935 --> 01:08:37,175
Speaker 13: overcall and chucked and some I forget the grade, but

1170
01:08:37,775 --> 01:08:42,135
Speaker 13: Scoria basse so about two hundred yeah, about two hundred

1171
01:08:43,255 --> 01:08:46,975
Speaker 13: worth a Scoria laid the overcare and then put scorer

1172
01:08:47,055 --> 01:08:52,575
Speaker 13: on top. Now there's no suspits or or or drainage

1173
01:08:53,295 --> 01:08:59,055
Speaker 13: like that I can feed into. Now, can I obviously

1174
01:08:59,335 --> 01:09:02,415
Speaker 13: obviously it's got to have fall, But can I create

1175
01:09:02,655 --> 01:09:08,335
Speaker 13: some sort of like scorier kind of kind of drainage

1176
01:09:08,415 --> 01:09:09,175
Speaker 13: pit at all?

1177
01:09:09,735 --> 01:09:11,535
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I've got to say that the best

1178
01:09:11,575 --> 01:09:14,695
Speaker 5: solution would be to try and find stormwater, your own

1179
01:09:14,815 --> 01:09:19,215
Speaker 5: storm water and tee into it, which technically I think

1180
01:09:19,295 --> 01:09:21,655
Speaker 5: would require it consent but anyway, we'll put that to

1181
01:09:21,735 --> 01:09:24,055
Speaker 5: one side for now. So ideally, what you want to

1182
01:09:24,055 --> 01:09:28,175
Speaker 5: do is have that drainage coil dropping into a catch pit,

1183
01:09:29,335 --> 01:09:31,695
Speaker 5: which will allow the sediment to sink to the bottom

1184
01:09:31,775 --> 01:09:34,175
Speaker 5: and only clean water to go into the storm water.

1185
01:09:34,295 --> 01:09:34,415
Speaker 7: Light.

1186
01:09:34,895 --> 01:09:38,055
Speaker 5: So that's that's your gold plated solution. Let's say you

1187
01:09:38,175 --> 01:09:41,295
Speaker 5: can't do that, or it's you know, the stormwater's miles

1188
01:09:41,335 --> 01:09:43,495
Speaker 5: away or something like that. I guess what you could

1189
01:09:43,535 --> 01:09:48,615
Speaker 5: do is do a soakage pit. I would suggest that

1190
01:09:48,695 --> 01:09:51,095
Speaker 5: you try and move that away from the boundary so

1191
01:09:51,215 --> 01:09:54,455
Speaker 5: that if it did get inundated, it doesn't impact on

1192
01:09:54,535 --> 01:09:56,415
Speaker 5: the neighbor. And we've been talking about that where people

1193
01:09:56,495 --> 01:09:58,975
Speaker 5: don't control this stormwater and it impacts the neighbor. So

1194
01:10:00,695 --> 01:10:04,935
Speaker 5: and one of the keys to doing those soakage pits

1195
01:10:05,135 --> 01:10:08,535
Speaker 5: is to so dig you know, a decent sized hole,

1196
01:10:08,615 --> 01:10:10,735
Speaker 5: and we're talking like, you know, met deep met a

1197
01:10:10,815 --> 01:10:13,855
Speaker 5: square sort of thing, take all of the material out

1198
01:10:14,175 --> 01:10:19,455
Speaker 5: line that with geotextile cloth, right, which is like a

1199
01:10:19,615 --> 01:10:23,495
Speaker 5: matting that you'd put under driveways and behind retaining walls

1200
01:10:23,495 --> 01:10:26,415
Speaker 5: and those sorts of things, and then fill that with scoria.

1201
01:10:26,575 --> 01:10:29,455
Speaker 5: And when I've done them, I actually take like a

1202
01:10:29,535 --> 01:10:32,695
Speaker 5: couple of meters of that drainage coil or black snake,

1203
01:10:32,775 --> 01:10:35,495
Speaker 5: whatever one you're using, and I loop that in there.

1204
01:10:35,615 --> 01:10:39,015
Speaker 5: So I've got like a volume that can't be crushed

1205
01:10:39,135 --> 01:10:42,255
Speaker 5: if you imagine, right, Because what typically often happens is

1206
01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:45,335
Speaker 5: you'll run your drainage coil into the scoria, but then

1207
01:10:45,375 --> 01:10:47,335
Speaker 5: it kind of just hits the scoria, right. What you

1208
01:10:47,455 --> 01:10:50,535
Speaker 5: want is for it to have some space to percolate

1209
01:10:50,615 --> 01:10:52,935
Speaker 5: out through the scoria. So I do a big loop

1210
01:10:53,775 --> 01:10:57,575
Speaker 5: of drainage coil in there and then fill it with scoria,

1211
01:10:58,135 --> 01:11:01,775
Speaker 5: fold the bittom cloth or the geotextile cloth over the top,

1212
01:11:01,895 --> 01:11:04,735
Speaker 5: and then put your soil back over there. And that

1213
01:11:05,255 --> 01:11:07,575
Speaker 5: if you're in the right sort of environment where you

1214
01:11:07,615 --> 01:11:10,615
Speaker 5: don't have heavy clays and that sort of thing, the water,

1215
01:11:11,335 --> 01:11:15,095
Speaker 5: because you're only collecting groundwater, will drain away and percolate

1216
01:11:15,215 --> 01:11:19,695
Speaker 5: back into there. Yeah, but ideally you'd want that to

1217
01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:23,175
Speaker 5: be a reasonable way away from the neighbor. And you know,

1218
01:11:23,295 --> 01:11:25,735
Speaker 5: if you're really in heavy, heavy clays, then in the

1219
01:11:25,855 --> 01:11:27,415
Speaker 5: end the clay is just going to hold it and

1220
01:11:27,495 --> 01:11:30,055
Speaker 5: it's going to fill up with water and not actually

1221
01:11:30,135 --> 01:11:32,095
Speaker 5: go anywhere. So you've got to be a bit reasonable

1222
01:11:32,095 --> 01:11:33,335
Speaker 5: about where you can actually put it.

1223
01:11:34,455 --> 01:11:37,935
Speaker 13: Yes, sweet, I mean like it's not like weat weat wheat.

1224
01:11:38,095 --> 01:11:42,215
Speaker 13: It's like essentially it's we're actually copecting the drainage from

1225
01:11:42,255 --> 01:11:45,295
Speaker 13: the neighbor. So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of

1226
01:11:45,335 --> 01:11:46,655
Speaker 13: we just kind of want.

1227
01:11:46,575 --> 01:11:47,375
Speaker 7: To dry it out.

1228
01:11:48,735 --> 01:11:51,775
Speaker 5: So and look, even the fact that you're collecting some

1229
01:11:51,895 --> 01:11:53,975
Speaker 5: of that water and running it through a length of

1230
01:11:54,135 --> 01:11:59,015
Speaker 5: the drainage coil will help with the moisture that's held

1231
01:11:59,055 --> 01:12:01,335
Speaker 5: in the in the soil around the patio on that

1232
01:12:01,415 --> 01:12:04,335
Speaker 5: sort of thing. So just just having the field drains themselves,

1233
01:12:04,415 --> 01:12:06,135
Speaker 5: the French drains themselves, will help.

1234
01:12:07,415 --> 01:12:11,335
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean French, it's just right out already, you know.

1235
01:12:12,815 --> 01:12:17,095
Speaker 5: So yeah, direck that into a into a soakage pit.

1236
01:12:17,335 --> 01:12:20,215
Speaker 5: But the key to the soakage pit is having that

1237
01:12:20,375 --> 01:12:23,495
Speaker 5: geotextile cloth. Right, the old ones that I've dug up,

1238
01:12:23,775 --> 01:12:25,655
Speaker 5: where they've just dug a hole put scoria in it,

1239
01:12:25,815 --> 01:12:28,175
Speaker 5: they end up just filling with sediment and then they

1240
01:12:28,255 --> 01:12:31,135
Speaker 5: don't work. So the is the key.

1241
01:12:31,415 --> 01:12:38,335
Speaker 13: Yeah, Now, when when when I relay the patio tiles

1242
01:12:38,615 --> 01:12:44,415
Speaker 13: like by three two fifty, just old like terracotta looking one. Now,

1243
01:12:44,535 --> 01:12:47,335
Speaker 13: can I should I should I run like a sand

1244
01:12:47,455 --> 01:12:53,375
Speaker 13: or some sort of like gap over the scoria between

1245
01:12:53,415 --> 01:12:57,575
Speaker 13: the cobbles and the soil, or and it'll still.

1246
01:12:57,415 --> 01:13:01,335
Speaker 5: Move around a little bit if you can be bothered.

1247
01:13:02,935 --> 01:13:05,735
Speaker 5: I would actually do that scene. I'd do a scene

1248
01:13:05,775 --> 01:13:10,135
Speaker 5: in cement mix like a slurry. So compact. Yeah, compact

1249
01:13:10,175 --> 01:13:14,415
Speaker 5: the base down really well and then literally bed your

1250
01:13:14,935 --> 01:13:19,095
Speaker 5: pavers down into a sand and cement mortar bed and

1251
01:13:19,335 --> 01:13:22,135
Speaker 5: that will keep it level for a lot longer than

1252
01:13:22,255 --> 01:13:24,415
Speaker 5: just putting it down onto the sand over the top

1253
01:13:24,455 --> 01:13:24,935
Speaker 5: of the scory.

1254
01:13:25,855 --> 01:13:28,335
Speaker 13: Yes, and what the natural is, the natural moisture will

1255
01:13:28,415 --> 01:13:30,935
Speaker 13: just harden the cement in the sand and.

1256
01:13:31,415 --> 01:13:33,655
Speaker 5: It'll just bond. Or what you can do is do

1257
01:13:33,735 --> 01:13:35,815
Speaker 5: the sand and cement and then just before you lay

1258
01:13:35,855 --> 01:13:38,455
Speaker 5: the tile, just take a little handful of cement and

1259
01:13:38,655 --> 01:13:41,535
Speaker 5: scatter it over the top and you'll see it change

1260
01:13:41,575 --> 01:13:43,575
Speaker 5: color because it'll hit the moisture. And then when you

1261
01:13:43,695 --> 01:13:46,335
Speaker 5: bed the tile down over the top, it'll it'll help bond.

1262
01:13:47,375 --> 01:13:49,815
Speaker 13: Gotcha, what's the ratio to sand cement?

1263
01:13:50,015 --> 01:13:53,495
Speaker 5: Six to one six one six scoops of sand one

1264
01:13:53,655 --> 01:13:55,415
Speaker 5: of cement. That'll be a nice strong mix.

1265
01:13:55,495 --> 01:13:56,055
Speaker 7: And the where you go.

1266
01:13:58,455 --> 01:13:58,815
Speaker 10: Take care.

1267
01:13:59,655 --> 01:14:02,335
Speaker 5: Actually, that'll that ratio is exactly what I'll be using

1268
01:14:02,375 --> 01:14:05,215
Speaker 5: tomorrow when I mix up some concrete for the fence posts.

1269
01:14:05,255 --> 01:14:08,455
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna go. I don't know, the bags

1270
01:14:08,455 --> 01:14:10,295
Speaker 5: are great, but I kind of like old school, so

1271
01:14:11,415 --> 01:14:13,815
Speaker 5: I'll go and get some builders mix. I'll get a

1272
01:14:13,855 --> 01:14:16,895
Speaker 5: bag of cement, the mixer out, or not even the mixer.

1273
01:14:16,975 --> 01:14:18,975
Speaker 5: I'll just do it in the wheelbarrow and then six

1274
01:14:19,055 --> 01:14:21,615
Speaker 5: to one, nice strong mix, not too much water.

1275
01:14:22,735 --> 01:14:23,095
Speaker 18: Bingo.

1276
01:14:23,375 --> 01:14:25,895
Speaker 5: Job done. That's tomorrow sorted. Right, We're gonna take a break.

1277
01:14:25,895 --> 01:14:28,535
Speaker 5: We're gonna talk to Mike Olds from Razine Construction straight

1278
01:14:28,575 --> 01:14:29,095
Speaker 5: after the break.

1279
01:14:29,855 --> 01:14:31,935
Speaker 3: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1280
01:14:32,175 --> 01:14:35,495
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1281
01:14:35,735 --> 01:14:36,495
Speaker 1: on News Talks.

1282
01:14:36,495 --> 01:14:39,895
Speaker 5: HEB you and News Talks heb so interesting sort of

1283
01:14:39,935 --> 01:14:44,295
Speaker 5: situation for me this week where just doing some paperwork

1284
01:14:44,335 --> 01:14:48,175
Speaker 5: at home, phone rings number that I didn't know, not

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Speaker 5: a hidden name, but just a number that I didn't know,

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Speaker 5: and talk to a delightful gentleman in christ Church who said, look,

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Speaker 5: I'm reaching out because I listened to the show. I've

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Speaker 5: heard you talk about different claddings and I'm looking at

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Speaker 5: a house. In fact, I'm looking at a house that

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Speaker 5: I might buy this afternoon. The auctions twelve o'clock. We're

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Speaker 5: talking at like eight thirty in the morning. And it's

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Speaker 5: got rock coat as the exterior render. Basically all of

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Speaker 5: the house bar a little bit of weatherboard, was all

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Speaker 5: done with that. Do you know much about it? And

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Speaker 5: I said, well, yeah, I do. I know the guys

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Speaker 5: quite well. But also if you tell me the address,

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Speaker 5: I can go to Razine Construction, who supervise these jobs,

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Speaker 5: provide the product, and they've got records of it. And

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Speaker 5: so that's exactly what I did, quite genuinely. What I

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Speaker 5: was surprised about was the level of detail held by

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Speaker 5: the manufacturer, let's say Razine Construction, about each individual job

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Speaker 5: that they do. Because the only way you can do

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Speaker 5: rock coat is by using a licensed applicator. They then

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Speaker 5: have phenomenally detailed processes to record every step of that job. Flashings, installation,

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Speaker 5: cavity batons, type for fixings, whether or not they've sealed

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Speaker 5: the cuts, all of these sorts of things is all recorded.

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Speaker 5: That was all available so I could phone this gentleman

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Speaker 5: back later in the day and so, yeah, I've seen

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Speaker 5: the records don't have a problem with it. So a

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Speaker 5: person who runs all of this is Mike Olds, and Mike,

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Speaker 5: thanks for your time on Wednesday, So.

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Speaker 8: You know what I was.

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Speaker 5: It's not completely surprising, but I was still quite impressed,

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Speaker 5: to be honest, about the level of detail that you

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Speaker 5: guys at Reseen Construction hold about every single clouding job

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Speaker 5: that you do. And this is obviously something that you've

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Speaker 5: built up over time. So that's the process, and every

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Speaker 5: single job gets recorded.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Pete. And it was a sort of perfect

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Speaker 6: scenario when the person that contacted you wanted to know

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Speaker 6: some information that normally, as I think we spoke the

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Speaker 6: vendor would normally have a lot of information. Yeah, for

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Speaker 6: potential for our purchases and this particular project in christ Church. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you gave us the address and if it's one of

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Speaker 6: our systems. I mean a lot of people, a lot

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Speaker 6: of projects would potentially have a specification on a project,

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Speaker 6: but sometimes that specification doesn't get achieved. So we do

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Speaker 6: we do it again. Pine calls and people saying I've

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Speaker 6: got your clouding system on our home, but I want

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Speaker 6: to see if it's in the system, and if it's

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Speaker 6: not in the system, we can generally say that possibly

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Speaker 6: the even the specification has been changed and it's unbeknown

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Speaker 6: to the original owners or even potential purchases. But part

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Speaker 6: of our process and it started way back and I

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Speaker 6: think two thousand and five we really got into this,

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Speaker 6: and it involves a substrate review on all residential projects

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Speaker 6: where we go and check the cavity bats, the flashings

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Speaker 6: and this photographic evidence. There's a checklist that we go

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Speaker 6: through and then we go through and do a final

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Speaker 6: review in terms of workmanship detailing other sub trades. The

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Speaker 6: first one is probably the most important in terms of

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Speaker 6: the substrate stall that deals with other sub trades and

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Speaker 6: pipe penetrations, electrical penetrations, root flashing connections where we connect

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Speaker 6: with other other trades as well. But as you generally

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Speaker 6: find where there's connections with other trades, they don't they

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Speaker 6: do their trade and we do our trade. That there's

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Speaker 6: there is definite crossovers and that's that's some of our

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Speaker 6: biggest focus focus areas. But it stays on that file

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Speaker 6: on that particular project, goes through for the for the

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Speaker 6: life of the project and it's always available. We also

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Speaker 6: it also flows through in terms of the warranties, so

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Speaker 6: that whole documentation package. Then we send that out to

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Speaker 6: the clients. Then in seven seven years we actually touch

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01:18:53,255 --> 01:18:56,175
Speaker 6: base with that particular residence are known. If it's the

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Speaker 6: same home for the original owner, we send them some

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01:18:59,455 --> 01:19:05,095
Speaker 6: messaging around starting to budget for general maintenance purposes. We're

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01:19:05,095 --> 01:19:07,295
Speaker 6: looking at repaints and all all that sort of good stuff.

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Speaker 6: So we sort of customers for life, is probably the

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Speaker 6: best way to describe it. And it gives us because

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Speaker 6: you never remember everything.

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Speaker 7: You know, you should look back at a job you.

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Speaker 6: Did fifteen twenty years ago and trying to recall a

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Speaker 6: who did the job, and b what was a color,

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Speaker 6: what was the finish, all of those sorts of things

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Speaker 6: just coming very very handy down the track, and you've

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Speaker 6: got a really really good record.

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Speaker 5: And it was the level of detail that in the

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Speaker 5: recording that really again really impressed me in the sense

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Speaker 5: that you know, there's a tremendous surety for a homeowner

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Speaker 5: many years later. So this is a person this house

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Speaker 5: was built in twenty twelve, all of those records existed.

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Speaker 5: This person's interested to know, you know, who did the work,

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Speaker 5: was it done well? Is there a record of the

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Speaker 5: actual the installation and you know, how do I know

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Speaker 5: that the flashings were installed all of these sorts of

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Speaker 5: things and you can find it. And the other thing

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Speaker 5: I guess that I'm thinking about is that you know,

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Speaker 5: potentially we're going to move to bards, a situation where

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Speaker 5: more dwellings can be built without necessarily requiring a council consent.

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Speaker 5: Therefore you're not having council inspectors. And if you're going

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Speaker 5: to own one of those properties, how do you know

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Speaker 5: that the work has been done well? And that level

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Speaker 5: of reporting and review is kind of like a template

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Speaker 5: for what we might see in the future for all

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Speaker 5: sorts of building performance systems.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I absolutely absolutely think this is this is the

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Speaker 6: this is the bar for, particularly for supplies and a

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Speaker 6: market to go yeah and say this is this is

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Speaker 6: the expectation, because I don't think it's reasonable for for

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Speaker 6: manufacturers by and large to say we understand that the

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Speaker 6: materials have been supplied and installed in accordance, because we

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Speaker 6: generally get the first phone call if there is ever

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Speaker 6: an issue, and if you're just reliant on just supply

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Speaker 6: and not taking into regard the skill and the competencies

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Speaker 6: of the people that are installing your products.

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Speaker 7: Then, yeah, it up a really big gap.

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Speaker 6: And I think this is something that's just so normal

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Speaker 6: for our business and our contractors, our LBP contractor network,

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Speaker 6: that it's a great practice and process for them as well.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've got it to the stage.

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Speaker 6: We've actually got it to the stage now where all

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Speaker 6: the LVP contractors can undertake and do these reviews with

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Speaker 6: the digital information photography, all the checks and balances themselves

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01:21:33,175 --> 01:21:35,495
Speaker 6: on single story dwellings. You know, they go through and

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Speaker 6: do that when we get into the more complex projects

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Speaker 6: we get involved. So yeah, it's pretty comprehensive and it's

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Speaker 6: a good backup and it saves a lot of racking

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Speaker 6: the brain in terms of memories of what what actually

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Speaker 6: happened and who did what.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 6: They also they also put notes on the project files

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Speaker 6: just in terms of conversations that have been held about

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Speaker 6: someone said this or someone said that. You know, there's

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Speaker 6: a there's a number of things, so I can avoid

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Speaker 6: those types of you know, a few years time.

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Speaker 7: So it's really really works.

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Speaker 5: Really appreciate your time this morning, we're going to rush

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01:22:09,255 --> 01:22:12,575
Speaker 5: for the news. Good luck with the golf today. He's

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01:22:12,615 --> 01:22:15,295
Speaker 5: not playing, he's looking after his boys playing. We'll come

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01:22:15,375 --> 01:22:17,415
Speaker 5: back and talk a little bit more about all things

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Speaker 5: building in construction straight after the news, sport and weather

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Speaker 5: here at News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

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Speaker 1: Filder with Peter WOLFCAF call OH eight hundred eighty eighty

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Speaker 1: Youth Talks EDB.

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Speaker 5: A righty Oh, welcome back to the show. Oh eight

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Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will

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01:22:34,975 --> 01:22:37,895
Speaker 5: take your building questions right through till eight thirty. Then

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Speaker 5: we're into the garden with the red climb past as

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Speaker 5: always at around eight thirty this morning. Just a heads

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Speaker 5: up too next week on the show at this time

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Speaker 5: Ben Thompson, who is a lawyer who specializes in cross

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Speaker 5: leases and property law in general, but cross leases very particularly,

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Speaker 5: will be available and we're going to we've had a

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Speaker 5: conversation with him before just kind of general stuff about

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Speaker 5: cross leases. But we'll cover the same topic next week

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Speaker 5: on the show. But you can text a new questions,

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Speaker 5: so if you've got specific questions about your cross lease

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01:23:10,375 --> 01:23:13,895
Speaker 5: or a cross lease that you're involved with, then fire

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01:23:13,935 --> 01:23:15,975
Speaker 5: them through. We'll do that next Sunday on the show.

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Speaker 5: And my thanks again to Mike OL's from Razine Construction

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Speaker 5: Systems for making himself available just before again, following on

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Speaker 5: from this completely random conversation I had with someone the

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Speaker 5: other day, rang me and said, look, I'm interested in

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Speaker 5: this property. I'm about to buy it. They're an older

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Speaker 5: couple looking for a retirement sort of property, low maintenance,

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Speaker 5: single level, all of those sorts of things, and said,

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Speaker 5: do you know much about the clouding system? And so

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Speaker 5: when I rang Mike, all of the records was there.

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Speaker 5: And what struck me, particularly at a time where there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of discussion now about government allowing up to

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Speaker 5: seventy square meters of building to be granny flats to

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01:23:54,695 --> 01:24:00,215
Speaker 5: be constructed without necessarily requiring a building consent, which means,

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01:24:00,615 --> 01:24:02,375
Speaker 5: how do you know you've got a good building right?

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01:24:02,415 --> 01:24:05,535
Speaker 5: Because typically the default position has been well, because you

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01:24:05,615 --> 01:24:08,695
Speaker 5: get a building can and because a council inspector comes

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01:24:08,735 --> 01:24:11,935
Speaker 5: out and has a look at it, you feel confident

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Speaker 5: that the building, once it's got its final inspection, got

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Speaker 5: a code of compliance, is going to be okay. It's

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Speaker 5: going to comply with the code. So if we're not

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Speaker 5: going to have counsel there as the gatekeeper, let's say

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Speaker 5: to compliance, how do you know it's going to comply?

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Speaker 5: And then it shifts the responsibility, let's say, on to

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01:24:31,335 --> 01:24:36,735
Speaker 5: individual contractors or suppliers of materials to say, look, I

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Speaker 5: think it's it's okay.

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Speaker 10: How do you know.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's where you need good systems and checks and

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Speaker 5: reviews and paperwork basically to ensure that compliance. And these

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01:24:47,095 --> 01:24:49,895
Speaker 5: guys are they've been doing it for twenty years, so

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Speaker 5: good on them. I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 5: Apparently someone else text through and said, look, we do

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Speaker 5: a similar sort of system and we've got these certified

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01:25:00,055 --> 01:25:03,935
Speaker 5: contractors to do the work. So a lot of these

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01:25:03,975 --> 01:25:05,855
Speaker 5: products and I went to buy something, I don't know,

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01:25:05,855 --> 01:25:08,295
Speaker 5: a little waterproofing product and they said, ah, you are

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01:25:08,335 --> 01:25:10,375
Speaker 5: licensed applicator and I said, no, I'm not, and they said,

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Speaker 5: we're not going to sell it to you. That's fine,

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01:25:14,655 --> 01:25:17,015
Speaker 5: It's absolutely fine. You know, if you're going to have

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Speaker 5: a product that is going to be critical to the

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01:25:19,735 --> 01:25:23,415
Speaker 5: building performance, some of those products will then only be

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Speaker 5: sold to people who are licensed to install them. And

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Speaker 5: I think that's a sensible safeguard. Quick text as well,

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Speaker 5: can you please ask your rock coat specialist what painting

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01:25:33,575 --> 01:25:37,695
Speaker 5: systems required for upkeep? How often should it be repainted? Typically?

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01:25:38,095 --> 01:25:41,975
Speaker 5: You know houses should be washed every year anyway. And

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01:25:42,535 --> 01:25:46,215
Speaker 5: in terms of recoat for razine construction or for rock coat,

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Speaker 5: I think the recommendation is sort of six to seven years,

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Speaker 5: and it'll be razine X two hundred for the top coat. Oh,

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Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's get amongst it, Roger,

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01:25:56,055 --> 01:25:57,055
Speaker 5: good morning.

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Speaker 18: Morning, morning, thanks, no problem. On the topic of birds,

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Speaker 18: yes under eaves, Yes, I've got a large covered deck.

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Speaker 18: When we moved into the house, there was a couple

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Speaker 18: of pairs of birds that were determined to put their

1495
01:26:13,375 --> 01:26:17,935
Speaker 18: nests there. After knocking the nests down a few times,

1496
01:26:18,015 --> 01:26:22,855
Speaker 18: realized that wasn't working. Long story short, I climbed up

1497
01:26:22,895 --> 01:26:25,855
Speaker 18: a ladder and the one I put a round a

1498
01:26:25,975 --> 01:26:28,255
Speaker 18: tennis ball another one I stuck a lemon and filled

1499
01:26:28,255 --> 01:26:31,895
Speaker 18: the nest up with a foreign body who sat back

1500
01:26:32,415 --> 01:26:35,935
Speaker 18: and watched the birds come back, and they were not happy.

1501
01:26:36,135 --> 01:26:38,655
Speaker 18: They perched on top of them for a little while

1502
01:26:38,975 --> 01:26:46,335
Speaker 18: and made a lot of very upset noise. Basically, I'm

1503
01:26:46,335 --> 01:26:49,015
Speaker 18: glad I didn't speak bird, because it sounded like they

1504
01:26:49,095 --> 01:26:51,575
Speaker 18: were swearing in about live different dialects.

1505
01:26:52,015 --> 01:26:52,375
Speaker 10: Oh yeah.

1506
01:26:52,375 --> 01:26:56,455
Speaker 18: They were not happy. Yes, oh yes, that result. They

1507
01:26:58,215 --> 01:27:02,655
Speaker 18: didn't come back. They abandoned the location as an unsuitable neighborhood.

1508
01:27:03,095 --> 01:27:06,895
Speaker 18: Following year, one of them tried again. I did this thing,

1509
01:27:07,815 --> 01:27:10,775
Speaker 18: and same result, and six years I've never had a

1510
01:27:10,855 --> 01:27:12,495
Speaker 18: bird under any of the eaves here.

1511
01:27:12,815 --> 01:27:16,175
Speaker 5: Interesting, okay, because this was something. I went and washed

1512
01:27:16,375 --> 01:27:19,975
Speaker 5: the deck down last week and in lo and behold

1513
01:27:20,015 --> 01:27:21,855
Speaker 5: them back there again the other day and I'm like,

1514
01:27:22,015 --> 01:27:24,775
Speaker 5: what the you know, it's all the bird poops back again.

1515
01:27:24,815 --> 01:27:26,335
Speaker 5: And then I look up and I think, oh, look

1516
01:27:26,335 --> 01:27:28,335
Speaker 5: at the little buggers. They're good on them. They got

1517
01:27:28,415 --> 01:27:30,215
Speaker 5: to find a home. Everybody's got to live somewhere. They're

1518
01:27:30,255 --> 01:27:31,815
Speaker 5: just not going to live at that place.

1519
01:27:32,255 --> 01:27:33,415
Speaker 9: So yeah, well you can.

1520
01:27:33,455 --> 01:27:36,295
Speaker 18: Keep knocking the nest down and they'll keep coming back.

1521
01:27:36,375 --> 01:27:38,895
Speaker 18: So I just made it so they decided themselves not

1522
01:27:39,095 --> 01:27:41,975
Speaker 18: to come here. I've told this to friends.

1523
01:27:42,215 --> 01:27:44,455
Speaker 9: They sort of like, yeah, give it a try.

1524
01:27:44,655 --> 01:27:47,015
Speaker 18: They did saw them a while later and they go, yeah,

1525
01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:47,815
Speaker 18: no more birds.

1526
01:27:48,735 --> 01:27:52,455
Speaker 5: Good stuff. I'm going to have a crack at using

1527
01:27:52,535 --> 01:27:56,095
Speaker 5: one of these gels that apparently dissuade the birds from

1528
01:27:56,215 --> 01:27:58,335
Speaker 5: coming back. So I've got to clean the area thoroughly

1529
01:27:58,455 --> 01:28:00,175
Speaker 5: knock the nest out, clean the area. So I'm can

1530
01:28:00,215 --> 01:28:03,535
Speaker 5: to do a bit of water blasting and then I

1531
01:28:04,015 --> 01:28:05,975
Speaker 5: will try this gel and we'll see how that goes.

1532
01:28:06,575 --> 01:28:08,935
Speaker 5: Appreciate the call, Roger, and thank you. We're on the

1533
01:28:08,935 --> 01:28:11,335
Speaker 5: same page and you're right the determination of birds to

1534
01:28:11,415 --> 01:28:14,695
Speaker 5: come back, and it took me about three years to

1535
01:28:15,335 --> 01:28:18,775
Speaker 5: beat them at my own place where they were hopping

1536
01:28:18,815 --> 01:28:22,375
Speaker 5: into the spouting on the bullnose veranda and then ducking

1537
01:28:22,415 --> 01:28:26,215
Speaker 5: their heads underneath the corrugated iron, jumping up over the

1538
01:28:26,295 --> 01:28:28,895
Speaker 5: facerboard and into a little gap that was there, a

1539
01:28:28,935 --> 01:28:31,895
Speaker 5: little safite that ran around there, and they were roosting

1540
01:28:32,055 --> 01:28:36,215
Speaker 5: in there, but they were very, very determined. Appreciate the call, Roger.

1541
01:28:36,255 --> 01:28:38,055
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Steve. Good morning.

1542
01:28:39,855 --> 01:28:44,255
Speaker 10: Can I Steve Phillip? Oh yeah, get hey, yeah, look

1543
01:28:44,295 --> 01:28:49,255
Speaker 10: I just got a question. Can I talk about a

1544
01:28:49,375 --> 01:28:50,575
Speaker 10: cross Lea's situation?

1545
01:28:51,135 --> 01:28:51,335
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1546
01:28:51,375 --> 01:28:56,455
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, okay, right, right, look, got this project and

1547
01:28:56,655 --> 01:28:59,255
Speaker 10: because I'm very interested in the hearing from.

1548
01:28:59,615 --> 01:29:02,495
Speaker 5: Is it ben at A the next week on the show.

1549
01:29:03,775 --> 01:29:08,615
Speaker 10: Is his last name Thompson? It is yep? Okay, good hey, listen,

1550
01:29:08,975 --> 01:29:12,215
Speaker 10: because we've got this situation where we've got a house

1551
01:29:12,695 --> 01:29:15,655
Speaker 10: that's going to be demoed. It's a plaster house and

1552
01:29:15,735 --> 01:29:19,975
Speaker 10: then rebuilt, right, And so the house is being designed

1553
01:29:20,535 --> 01:29:22,455
Speaker 10: and it's on the southern side. It's on a cross

1554
01:29:22,535 --> 01:29:26,655
Speaker 10: lease house section with the front house being a villa

1555
01:29:26,775 --> 01:29:30,935
Speaker 10: on the front. Now, the people on the front, the

1556
01:29:31,015 --> 01:29:33,975
Speaker 10: cross lease neighbors have to sign off on the new

1557
01:29:34,055 --> 01:29:37,415
Speaker 10: plans for the rebuilt of the house because of the

1558
01:29:37,575 --> 01:29:42,455
Speaker 10: you know what's required, and they are not wanting the

1559
01:29:42,575 --> 01:29:47,255
Speaker 10: rare property to have any windows on the northern face

1560
01:29:47,335 --> 01:29:52,775
Speaker 10: that's facing their house, right. And now, from my understanding,

1561
01:29:52,935 --> 01:29:56,735
Speaker 10: you can't object unreasonably. You have to be reasonable in

1562
01:29:56,815 --> 01:30:02,015
Speaker 10: your objections, right, And so they're only their concern is

1563
01:30:02,055 --> 01:30:06,215
Speaker 10: that they think the neighbors in the new house would

1564
01:30:06,335 --> 01:30:08,895
Speaker 10: windows on At the moment, the house doesn't have that.

1565
01:30:09,015 --> 01:30:11,575
Speaker 10: It's more of a single level and a large roof.

1566
01:30:11,695 --> 01:30:13,695
Speaker 10: So all they're looking at the moment as a roof

1567
01:30:13,855 --> 01:30:16,295
Speaker 10: no windows. The new house will be a double level,

1568
01:30:16,615 --> 01:30:18,975
Speaker 10: it will have windows, and it'll have windows on the

1569
01:30:19,175 --> 01:30:22,255
Speaker 10: on that on the northern face that will peer into

1570
01:30:22,335 --> 01:30:25,175
Speaker 10: their backyard. But it's on the southern side, so the

1571
01:30:25,295 --> 01:30:28,895
Speaker 10: light's not being blocked at all, and the house hasn't

1572
01:30:28,895 --> 01:30:30,775
Speaker 10: even close to them, so it complies with all the

1573
01:30:30,855 --> 01:30:34,895
Speaker 10: other rigs. The only objection is that they don't want

1574
01:30:34,935 --> 01:30:39,335
Speaker 10: any windows. They don't want any glass facing their backyard,

1575
01:30:39,775 --> 01:30:41,255
Speaker 10: and I would have thought that.

1576
01:30:41,295 --> 01:30:43,735
Speaker 5: Would be the questions. Is that reasonable?

1577
01:30:45,135 --> 01:30:48,415
Speaker 10: Yeah, you could understand if the house is blocking out

1578
01:30:48,495 --> 01:30:53,495
Speaker 10: some sure, nor it's on the southern side and the

1579
01:30:53,575 --> 01:30:55,615
Speaker 10: house is a fair ways back. It's actually ten meters

1580
01:30:55,655 --> 01:30:58,655
Speaker 10: back from the boundary, so it's not even close. Biness factors,

1581
01:30:59,175 --> 01:31:01,895
Speaker 10: They've just got this be in their bonnet. They've got

1582
01:31:02,055 --> 01:31:03,735
Speaker 10: their backyard.

1583
01:31:03,375 --> 01:31:06,215
Speaker 5: At the moment, they don't have any I guess uish

1584
01:31:06,615 --> 01:31:10,175
Speaker 5: is going to be around. How do you enforce reasonableness?

1585
01:31:12,255 --> 01:31:13,295
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I like that.

1586
01:31:13,615 --> 01:31:16,735
Speaker 5: Yeah, but look, I'm happy to keep a note of this,

1587
01:31:16,975 --> 01:31:19,455
Speaker 5: and look, if you'd like to text through again next

1588
01:31:19,775 --> 01:31:23,295
Speaker 5: Sunday when Ben's actually available, that that would be a

1589
01:31:23,375 --> 01:31:27,695
Speaker 5: great question. But yeah, trying to enforce reasonableness. Gee, that's

1590
01:31:28,855 --> 01:31:29,935
Speaker 5: it's a tricky one, isn't it.

1591
01:31:29,975 --> 01:31:30,135
Speaker 17: You know.

1592
01:31:30,215 --> 01:31:32,535
Speaker 5: I mean we've all met people who are just downright

1593
01:31:32,775 --> 01:31:35,135
Speaker 5: ornery and just won't be reasonable.

1594
01:31:36,055 --> 01:31:37,215
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're all.

1595
01:31:39,135 --> 01:31:41,335
Speaker 10: We should be allowed to have your sunlight, right, you

1596
01:31:41,375 --> 01:31:43,415
Speaker 10: should be able to have your your son, your neighbor

1597
01:31:43,455 --> 01:31:45,575
Speaker 10: shouldn't be able to tell you just because they're worried

1598
01:31:45,615 --> 01:31:49,575
Speaker 10: about it. A few people peering out windows and look.

1599
01:31:49,695 --> 01:31:51,615
Speaker 5: I guess you know, listening to what you're saying. If

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01:31:51,655 --> 01:31:53,815
Speaker 5: it's ten meters away, then you could also do some

1601
01:31:53,935 --> 01:31:56,255
Speaker 5: planting on the boundary. It's not like it's one meter

1602
01:31:56,375 --> 01:31:58,855
Speaker 5: away and three meters up in the air and looking

1603
01:31:58,895 --> 01:32:03,015
Speaker 5: straight into there. So it would seem that there is

1604
01:32:03,135 --> 01:32:06,135
Speaker 5: some way of being a little bit reasonable around that.

1605
01:32:06,935 --> 01:32:10,935
Speaker 5: Really appreciate that. We'll put that to Ben Thompson who

1606
01:32:11,215 --> 01:32:14,775
Speaker 5: is from Pigeon Judge Lawyers and a specialist in Crossley,

1607
01:32:14,855 --> 01:32:16,855
Speaker 5: so he's going to be available to answer some questions

1608
01:32:16,935 --> 01:32:19,695
Speaker 5: text questions next week on the show. Really looking forward

1609
01:32:19,735 --> 01:32:21,855
Speaker 5: to that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, would

1610
01:32:21,855 --> 01:32:23,895
Speaker 5: take a short break. We'll be back with Peter after

1611
01:32:23,935 --> 01:32:24,255
Speaker 5: the break.

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01:32:24,735 --> 01:32:28,415
Speaker 1: Measa twice God was, but maybe called Pete first, feed

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Speaker 1: your wolfcab the Resident Builder News Talk.

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1616
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1631
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1632
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Speaker 5: ingenuity that we all love. You do It, that's Dui Kitchens.

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Speaker 5: You do It dot co dot NZ news Talk said,

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01:33:49,575 --> 01:33:55,215
Speaker 5: b as it happens, I actually put in a U

1637
01:33:55,415 --> 01:34:00,375
Speaker 5: do It. We did one shivers what I mean. Twenty fourteen,

1638
01:34:00,495 --> 01:34:03,455
Speaker 5: I was working for a client who had purchased a property.

1639
01:34:03,655 --> 01:34:07,295
Speaker 5: The kitchen was slightly outdated. They wanted to do something

1640
01:34:07,855 --> 01:34:11,175
Speaker 5: quickly to get it ready for them to move into,

1641
01:34:11,535 --> 01:34:15,015
Speaker 5: and I said to them, well, we'll give this you

1642
01:34:15,135 --> 01:34:17,975
Speaker 5: do it a call and a try. So I ended

1643
01:34:18,055 --> 01:34:21,215
Speaker 5: up taking the measurements myself of the kitchen, chatting with

1644
01:34:21,295 --> 01:34:23,815
Speaker 5: the owner about what they wanted, ordered it. We put

1645
01:34:23,815 --> 01:34:27,375
Speaker 5: it in ourselves. Worked very well, I have to say,

1646
01:34:27,495 --> 01:34:30,015
Speaker 5: And funnily enough, I've been back at that house doing

1647
01:34:30,095 --> 01:34:33,095
Speaker 5: some more just regular maintenance work recently. Kitchen still they're

1648
01:34:33,095 --> 01:34:35,775
Speaker 5: still working fine. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1649
01:34:35,895 --> 01:34:38,335
Speaker 5: is the number to call, just my own experience of it.

1650
01:34:38,655 --> 01:34:39,855
Speaker 5: Hey Peter, good morning to.

1651
01:34:39,855 --> 01:34:41,895
Speaker 19: You, and good morning do you, Peter.

1652
01:34:42,095 --> 01:34:42,335
Speaker 5: Great.

1653
01:34:42,495 --> 01:34:46,015
Speaker 19: So we've got a small house that's been converted into

1654
01:34:46,135 --> 01:34:51,255
Speaker 19: a retail shop on the main road. The question I've

1655
01:34:51,295 --> 01:34:54,415
Speaker 19: got is does a Healthy Homes rules mean that we

1656
01:34:54,495 --> 01:34:56,855
Speaker 19: need to supply a heat pump in that situation or

1657
01:34:56,895 --> 01:35:00,135
Speaker 19: does it just apply to accommodation.

1658
01:35:00,935 --> 01:35:03,615
Speaker 5: I would think it's only accommodation because essentially what it's

1659
01:35:03,655 --> 01:35:07,575
Speaker 5: about is the Healthy Homes requirements relate to It's part

1660
01:35:07,615 --> 01:35:11,735
Speaker 5: of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Act. So if it's not

1661
01:35:11,895 --> 01:35:17,575
Speaker 5: a residential tenancy, then it basically it's irrelevant. Right, So

1662
01:35:17,655 --> 01:35:21,215
Speaker 5: if you're using what was a residential property for a

1663
01:35:21,335 --> 01:35:24,415
Speaker 5: commercial purpose a shop or an office or something like that,

1664
01:35:24,615 --> 01:35:28,335
Speaker 5: then no, I don't see how if there's no tenancy

1665
01:35:28,375 --> 01:35:30,895
Speaker 5: agreement in place, then I guess you don't need to

1666
01:35:30,935 --> 01:35:32,335
Speaker 5: apply with the Healthy Home standards.

1667
01:35:33,295 --> 01:35:33,975
Speaker 7: That's what I thought.

1668
01:35:34,135 --> 01:35:36,775
Speaker 19: But someone suggested to me that the rules might have

1669
01:35:36,895 --> 01:35:40,855
Speaker 19: changed from one July. No, no, that Google I couldn't

1670
01:35:40,855 --> 01:35:41,295
Speaker 19: find anything.

1671
01:35:41,335 --> 01:35:41,535
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1672
01:35:41,575 --> 01:35:44,495
Speaker 5: No, what happened on the first of July is that

1673
01:35:45,015 --> 01:35:47,455
Speaker 5: this is a piece of legislation that's had a really

1674
01:35:47,575 --> 01:35:51,295
Speaker 5: long gestation, right, so it was signalled gosh, I think

1675
01:35:51,375 --> 01:35:54,975
Speaker 5: as far back as twenty seventeen. Then there was a

1676
01:35:55,055 --> 01:35:58,535
Speaker 5: whole series of deadlines. Certain types of dwellings needed to

1677
01:35:58,615 --> 01:36:02,015
Speaker 5: comply by certain dates, and then there were always exemptions. So,

1678
01:36:02,255 --> 01:36:04,415
Speaker 5: for example, if you had a sitting tenant in a

1679
01:36:04,495 --> 01:36:07,255
Speaker 5: property and maybe they'd been there for five years, right,

1680
01:36:08,215 --> 01:36:12,335
Speaker 5: you didn't need to comply with the regulations until they

1681
01:36:12,495 --> 01:36:15,735
Speaker 5: moved out or until they renewed their tendancy. And if

1682
01:36:15,775 --> 01:36:18,495
Speaker 5: they just went onto a periodic, they wouldn't renew it, right.

1683
01:36:18,615 --> 01:36:23,735
Speaker 5: So so in effect. You might have had a long

1684
01:36:23,895 --> 01:36:28,135
Speaker 5: term tenant in a residential property up until the first

1685
01:36:28,215 --> 01:36:31,935
Speaker 5: of July, so six days ago that that building didn't

1686
01:36:31,975 --> 01:36:34,815
Speaker 5: need to comply because the tenant never moved out. That

1687
01:36:35,015 --> 01:36:38,295
Speaker 5: exemption has ended, right, So from the first of July,

1688
01:36:38,615 --> 01:36:44,335
Speaker 5: every single residential property, including state houses, all need to

1689
01:36:44,415 --> 01:36:48,815
Speaker 5: comply with the healthy home standards from now. That's that's

1690
01:36:48,855 --> 01:36:52,175
Speaker 5: the change that you might have been talking about. Great listen,

1691
01:36:52,335 --> 01:36:55,055
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Pleasure all the best, pleasure to

1692
01:36:55,175 --> 01:37:00,775
Speaker 5: take care your new stork seed b oh, good point.

1693
01:37:01,295 --> 01:37:04,095
Speaker 5: Just quick text. We were talking with Robin who's in

1694
01:37:04,135 --> 01:37:08,535
Speaker 5: an older sort of nineteen seventy house had some insulation,

1695
01:37:08,695 --> 01:37:12,095
Speaker 5: but insulation standards there were pretty poor, to be blunt

1696
01:37:13,935 --> 01:37:16,375
Speaker 5: to the lady who was asking about putting up bats

1697
01:37:16,415 --> 01:37:19,215
Speaker 5: on top of old bats, or more insulation over the

1698
01:37:19,295 --> 01:37:21,375
Speaker 5: existing one in her ceiling if she has a community

1699
01:37:21,415 --> 01:37:24,015
Speaker 5: services card. There are all sorts of government grants for

1700
01:37:24,055 --> 01:37:26,295
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, and the cost is actually really cheap,

1701
01:37:26,335 --> 01:37:28,415
Speaker 5: and there are many companies that do it, and believe me,

1702
01:37:28,495 --> 01:37:33,375
Speaker 5: it's definitely worthwhile. Plus they'll also do underfloor installation if possible,

1703
01:37:33,735 --> 01:37:37,335
Speaker 5: and the vapor barrier onto the floor from Ron, Thanks

1704
01:37:37,455 --> 01:37:40,135
Speaker 5: very much, and you're absolutely right. There's quite a lot

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Speaker 5: of support available if you're in the right category for that.

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01:37:46,735 --> 01:37:51,215
Speaker 5: And you've got a hats off Taika, who run the

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01:37:51,495 --> 01:37:55,215
Speaker 5: Warmer Homes program. The actual number of dwellings, and I

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01:37:55,375 --> 01:37:57,695
Speaker 5: was surprised by this because I talk about this quite

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01:37:57,735 --> 01:38:01,215
Speaker 5: a lot at different seminars and presentations and that sort

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01:38:01,255 --> 01:38:03,535
Speaker 5: of thing, and I had always assumed that there was

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Speaker 5: a significant like hundreds of thousands of New Zealand homes

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Speaker 5: that are either completely uninsulated or poorly insulated. Talking with

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Speaker 5: ECA who measure this, they actually think that the number

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Speaker 5: of houses that are really poorly insulated is possibly down

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Speaker 5: in the one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand dwellings.

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01:38:24,895 --> 01:38:28,415
Speaker 5: Now there's about two million dwellings in New Zealand, there's

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Speaker 5: about five hundred it's almost six hundred thousand rental properties

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Speaker 5: in New Zealand. So if we're down to a nub

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01:38:35,375 --> 01:38:39,375
Speaker 5: of about somewhere, be nice if it was zero. But realistically,

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01:38:39,975 --> 01:38:43,055
Speaker 5: there has been actually great progress for most of our

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Speaker 5: housing stock to add some insulation where it's practical to

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01:38:47,415 --> 01:38:49,575
Speaker 5: do so, and that I think is a really really

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01:38:49,735 --> 01:38:52,455
Speaker 5: good thing. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number

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Speaker 5: to call. Last call for the morning Peter, Hello there.

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Speaker 9: Hello, just spring up. Really on a tight budget, yes,

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01:39:01,375 --> 01:39:09,015
Speaker 9: really on a Tiday's budget. What happened was ah two

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01:39:09,135 --> 01:39:13,295
Speaker 9: messive holes in the war. What I did was, being

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01:39:13,415 --> 01:39:16,255
Speaker 9: on the type budget, I had a block of wood.

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Speaker 7: I placed the.

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Speaker 9: Wooden in the in the middle of the hole. And

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01:39:21,215 --> 01:39:26,135
Speaker 9: what I did was I nailed the wood in the

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Speaker 9: whole winded. I placed a piece of two year car

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Speaker 9: well paper. Well, you know, for exactly the same color

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Speaker 9: as the war.

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Speaker 7: It didn't.

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Speaker 9: I placed bother because look, I'm on the type budget.

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01:39:44,015 --> 01:39:48,935
Speaker 9: Flower in water and looks the flower up. It worked.

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01:39:49,215 --> 01:39:51,135
Speaker 9: It worked, honestly it worked.

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Speaker 5: Is it your own place, Peter, or is it a

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01:39:53,615 --> 01:39:54,575
Speaker 5: rented place that you're in.

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Speaker 9: Well, apparently I got the job done. Landlord came to

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01:40:00,975 --> 01:40:04,215
Speaker 9: day and he didn't know anything about it.

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Speaker 5: You cod mate, if it works for you, it works

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01:40:09,855 --> 01:40:13,255
Speaker 5: for you, and maybe later on the landlord, I want

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01:40:13,295 --> 01:40:16,335
Speaker 5: to take the flower out and put in some plaster

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01:40:16,495 --> 01:40:19,655
Speaker 5: or some jib compound or something like that. Appreciate the call.

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01:40:19,975 --> 01:40:22,375
Speaker 5: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:40:22,495 --> 01:40:25,015
Speaker 5: call for rid climb pass because he is standing by.

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Speaker 5: And just another quick reminder, So next week at this

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01:40:28,615 --> 01:40:31,815
Speaker 5: time from eight to eight thirty, we'll have Ben Thompson,

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01:40:32,135 --> 01:40:35,015
Speaker 5: who's a lawyer who specializes in Crossley's I'm already getting

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01:40:35,015 --> 01:40:37,855
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of texts. You'll need to text in

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01:40:38,095 --> 01:40:41,135
Speaker 5: next week if you've got a specific question. And I

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01:40:41,215 --> 01:40:43,935
Speaker 5: think it's going to be a very very busy half

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01:40:44,015 --> 01:40:46,335
Speaker 5: hour on the show. So looking forward to that next week,

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Speaker 5: looking forward to talking with Rut as well. And love

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01:40:49,295 --> 01:40:51,655
Speaker 5: the text that came in just a moment ago, so

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Speaker 5: says the texter from last week's show with Rud. I've

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Speaker 5: made a RUU box. Now could I ask where would

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01:40:58,815 --> 01:41:00,855
Speaker 5: be the best place to put it? We will answer

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01:41:00,895 --> 01:41:03,775
Speaker 5: that question and many more than just a moment back

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Speaker 5: with Rut.

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Speaker 3: After the breaking Upper House Dawning the Garden asked Pete

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Speaker 3: for a hand The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.

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Speaker 1: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks EDB

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Speaker 1: for more from The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Listen

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