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Speaker 1: Hello, I am Paula Bennet and welcome to my new

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Speaker 1: Zealand Herald podcast, Ask Me Anything Now. One thing I've

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Speaker 1: bluten in life is it's never too late to do

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Speaker 1: something new. So on this podcast, I've talked to people

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Speaker 1: from all walks of life to hear how they got

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Speaker 1: to where they are, get some advice and guidance on

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Speaker 1: some of life's biggest questions. My guest today has been

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Speaker 1: on our entertainment scene for a long long time, but

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Speaker 1: is still so young. But it's because she started her

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Speaker 1: first acting job at just twelve years old. She's been

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Speaker 1: on many local Telly shows about as a true wisty

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, The Outrageous Fortune and West Side stand

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Speaker 1: out as favorites for me. I was even lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to meet her and week with her and give us

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Speaker 1: a clue. Her new show, Double Parked Season two is

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Speaker 1: out now on three and three Now.

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Speaker 2: And Tonia Prepple, welcome and thank you.

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Speaker 1: Love to see you again. After that crazy charades show.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 1: But I thought you did such a great job because

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Speaker 1: you had to do like ten a day or something,

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Speaker 1: and I obviously only did one and after that, I

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Speaker 1: was exhausted and it was so hot, and you just

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Speaker 1: had to sort of keep up that level of energy

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Speaker 1: for like twelve hours. It was quite funny because people,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had wonderful people like you, and some

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Speaker 1: of them wore just said to come in and guy,

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Speaker 1: it's just what I'm doing, and then get so competitive

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Speaker 1: so quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean you do.

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Speaker 1: You get sort of filled with the desire to win

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Speaker 1: and triumph, which is wonderful.

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Speaker 2: And I definitely was that. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, easy, quick fine questions. If you'd go to the

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Speaker 1: pub or for a drink with any celebrity, who would

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Speaker 2: Or probably Phoebe waller Bridge. Do you know her? She's

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Speaker 2: the creator of Fleabag.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So she's a writer and actress and Killing Eve

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Speaker 1: she was, yeah, yeah, creator of that, and she's just

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Speaker 1: like so I totally have a crush on her, Like

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Speaker 1: And I feel like we'd be friends, you know, Like

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Speaker 1: I feel like if we just had the chance to

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Speaker 1: hang out, we'd be friends. What would you drink be?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think choice Nkronia. Yeah, do love her? Do love

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Speaker 1: a Nigarrony?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Nice? Nice?

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Speaker 1: And a favorite bar pub restaurant anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, where would I like to go? Oh I

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Speaker 1: want to go to like the Histon, Bloomintholes, the Fat

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Speaker 1: Duck and England. That sounds amazing. I think you can

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Speaker 1: lick the walls or something like. It's, you know, a

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Speaker 2: Wow, mind you.

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Speaker 1: We were just before you came in here in the studio,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about feeding children. Okay, that changes your

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Speaker 1: dietary quite a bit, doesn't Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although they probably would quite like to lick the walls.

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Speaker 1: They would exactly what made me think about it?

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is great grace for kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they would, they would. Okay, we're going to

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Speaker 1: chat about the second season of Double Pack shortly, but

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Speaker 1: first let's talk a bit more about you, because as

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Speaker 1: we've already, I mean, I've literally got photos of me

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Speaker 1: with you because I was just so excited because my

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Speaker 2: Your true Westias.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that were yeah, that was that was your

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Speaker 1: and they would play Gutther Black for me, you know,

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Speaker 1: like they kind of almost saw me as, yes, you're

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Speaker 1: part of the West Yeah, but you're another member of

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Speaker 1: But I mean it was it must have been intense.

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Speaker 1: And you did I mean, how many seasons was Outrageous? Six?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then six worth west Side? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's a big chunk of your acting career, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was huge. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I started when I was twenty on Outrageous and I

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And they made you look so much younger, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just saw you so young and with no may

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Speaker 1: Caffe and yeah, I used to have fifteen minute makeup calls,

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Speaker 1: that would have been fun. It was great and could

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Speaker 1: you embrace your character? And it's quite a you know.

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Speaker 1: as well in we both did this woman's event for

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Speaker 1: also loved about the show was that it was body positive.

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Speaker 1: They wanted you to be real and who you were,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what the expectations are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Like it was body positive and

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Speaker 1: body positive and that bodies were not talked about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just was not on. It was not up for discussion.

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Speaker 1: No one ever talked about it. It wasn't like you

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Speaker 2: It just was not part of it, you know.

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Speaker 1: It was it was neutral, which I think is you

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Speaker 1: not talk about bodies, you know, like, how do you

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Speaker 1: help your daughter feel positive in her body. Don't talk

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Speaker 1: about everybody, you know, it's just that should be something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were a child actor. Did you call

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Speaker 1: I guess it.

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Speaker 1: And like I read about that first job at twelve

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Speaker 2: It's such a classic New Zealand story. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, my best friend at primary school, her their

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Speaker 1: and I was like yes, absolutely, had no idea what

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Speaker 1: A lot of actors come from acting, Yes, absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: but no, most of my families are lawyers or academics,

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Speaker 1: You know, like look at place each sport, does you

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Speaker 1: And then following that path, I suppose because you had

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Speaker 2: In my career is over.

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Speaker 1: But then sort of well, the big sort of next

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Speaker 1: from that point I've been able to really fullge your path.

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Speaker 1: So when did you study because you've done you did

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Speaker 1: study law for a little while.

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Speaker 1: And then you've studied acting numerous times, have you? But

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Speaker 1: much as I can. So I so after I finished school,

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Speaker 1: So I switched the credits to an arts degree. And eventually,

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Speaker 1: what I want to do because I know it is

442
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: good for them. But yeah, it's it's there's Yeah, there's

443
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,199
Speaker 1: lots of things about this business that you know, the

444
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 1: uncertainty of it and the freelance nature of it, which

445
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 1: is challenging but also beneficial to family.

446
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 2: Like we never can never really plan because we.

447
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,239
Speaker 1: Never know, Like at the moment, I'm waiting to hear

448
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm going to be cast in this

449
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 1: show in Australia, and if i am, then we're going

450
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 1: to go like in two weeks, but if I'm not,

451
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,119
Speaker 1: then will stay.

452
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's strange.

453
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 1: But the positive impact of that is that there is

454
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 1: more flexibility, so Dan can decide not to take on

455
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 1: something if I've got something on, and we can any

456
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: understands your life, You understand each other's lives, yea, and

457
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,719
Speaker 1: so in that context it's yeah, yeah, and we can

458
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 1: all pack up and go together. Like yeah, we all

459
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,479
Speaker 1: went to Melbourne a few years two years ago for

460
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: me to do a show and he was able to

461
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 1: just write from there, so that was that's great. I

462
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 1: think it'll be really hard if we're going to talk

463
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 1: about double Packed in the second half of Little Bit

464
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 1: More and not getting type pats. But in Double Packed,

465
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: we've got babies we do. Did did it make you

466
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: more or less inclined? Him another child? Did it? You know?

467
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: Like just being around those little places of smelling, the smelling,

468
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,479
Speaker 1: you forget this, You forget the smell so quick. I know.

469
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: I know it's not fear. Yeah, I know, and then

470
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 2: you end up. I'm okay because I'm a grandmother, so

471
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: it's you're right for me to have. You got babies.

472
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're all a bit older, but I

473
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: sniff other people's babies and I just say to them

474
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: it's perfectly okay because I'm a grandmother. Yeah, Like it's

475
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: not creepy. Yeah, yeah, definitely not. Yeah, you're allowed to

476
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 1: sniff a baby. Yeah, surely, it's just an accepted And

477
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: how was it then working with babies? It was, Oh,

478
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: it was great. They were so cute. I mean to

479
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: be honest, I was a little bit like, oh God,

480
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: how's this going to go? Because I've worked with a

481
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: I always get cast as pregnant people who have babies.

482
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: So I've worked with heaps of babies over my career,

483
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: and it's usually pretty challenging for obvious reasons because they're

484
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 1: babies and often are upset because they have a saw

485
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 1: timmy or just don't feel like doing it or tired,

486
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, all of the things. They can only be

487
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: on set again for good reason for a very short

488
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: amount of time because baby label laws.

489
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: Are quite strict, as they should be.

490
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was a little bit nervous about it, like,

491
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: oh god, it just makes things a lot harder.

492
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: But these babies, they were great.

493
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: So we had two newborns and then two they are

494
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: about four months old because the season tracks about the

495
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: first four months of your life, and one was even

496
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: cast and usual of wow, but they were pretty chills like,

497
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: which is just such a crapshoot.

498
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: Isn't it about how how baby? But they're little, they'll

499
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 2: sleep anywhere, Let's be honest.

500
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: When they they don't even know though, Like I mean,

501
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: mine cried, cried a lot, but they sort of just did.

502
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: I think we just got really lucky. But yeah, didn't

503
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: make me want to have babies more or less.

504
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we feel pretty good with two.

505
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: We feel like again.

506
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: For the lives that we want to have in the

507
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: careers that we want to have. Too. Feels like a

508
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: good number. It's a carful. It's a carful. Yeah, that's right.

509
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: You can keep your car.

510
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't have to buy a seven seed.

511
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to take break here, and when we

512
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: come back, we will be chanting about not getting tight cast,

513
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: to brucify and always learning. I am back with Antonio

514
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: Prebople advice time, and I want to chat to you

515
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: about not getting typecast and the importance of always learning.

516
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: And we've already sort of touched on it, really, but

517
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, you've talked about going and doing a week

518
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: in course this weekend. I mean, is it just that

519
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: that's striving to be better? That listening to the experts.

520
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean what drives that. Yeah, I want to be

521
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: as best as I can be at the thing I love,

522
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: and with acting, the wonderful thing about it is there's

523
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: no limit to how good you can be, and hopefully

524
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: the older you get, just the better you can get.

525
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's tricky with in comparison to saving athlete,

526
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: you really pique at a certain aged level, and then

527
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: as your physical self declines, your career unfortunately declines and

528
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: you have to start a new chapter. But for acting,

529
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: there really shouldn't be any endo it until you start.

530
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: Losing your faculties when you're really really old.

531
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: But really otherwise you're just you know, it's understanding yourself,

532
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: it's understanding the world around you. It's gaining more experience

533
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: and more tools. So you should just ideally get better

534
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: and better and better. And that's what I want to do.

535
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm so aware of how much better I could be.

536
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: But we look at some of those, you know, women

537
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: that we could name, like Dame Judy Dentt and like

538
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: Meryl stre and you know, you just look at them

539
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: and what they can do and what they can do

540
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: and some respects when it's getting better, you know, like, well,

541
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't know it's fair to say, because there's been

542
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: so many amazing roles in their careers, but you know,

543
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: you can certainly see the maturity the wound there was though,

544
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: that kind of almost a shelf life, you know for it,

545
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: because you've tuned forty recently, right, Yeah, yeah, love a milestone,

546
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah love miss love a mile stone. Just rab it

547
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: because the alternative not reaching one is worse. So I

548
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: always think celebrated absolutely. I love that you went out

549
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: and seed you a forty two. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

550
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I know we don't do it sometimes sometimes. Yeah, people

551
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: are still a bit funny, aren't they about someone out

552
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: their age, particularly women? Maybe, Yeah, and you can understand

553
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: why because it has been a very ageist industry and world.

554
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: And yeah, probably still has twisted next, yeah it is,

555
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: and and so in that context it has. Do you

556
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: think it is changing? I mean you can see some

557
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: great roles. I mean Robin talked about almost having to

558
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: write her own yeah, you know, for after the party

559
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: because you just sort of, you know, could see what

560
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: was sort of happening there. Yes, yeah, I think unfortunately

561
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: it is still really prevalent. I mean, after the party

562
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: only came out last year. So the fact that Robin

563
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: was saying she had to write her own role means that, yes,

564
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: still even now it is it is really difficult. I

565
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: definitely notice a huge reduction in the number of auditions

566
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: that I get in comparison to when I was in

567
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: my twenties, because if you just think about most TV shows,

568
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: most movies that you watch, they're generally about people in

569
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: their twenties or thirties.

570
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, he can be fifty, he can be.

571
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: Fifty, he can be twenty years older than his wife. Yeah,

572
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's still going on. I think it

573
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: is changed, absolutely and it is less acceptable for a

574
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: man to be twenty years older than his wife, but

575
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: it's absolutely still happening. So we just have to keep

576
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: campaigning for it and making our own shows. And because like,

577
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: why is a woman in her forties or fifties or

578
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: sixties or seventies or eighties any less interesting? I mean,

579
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: they'd be more interesting. They've got a lot more to tell.

580
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: And I think our viewing and we are an aging

581
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: population as well, so you know, one of the.

582
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: It's not devastating.

583
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: That's such a dramatic expression I was going to use,

584
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: but you know, I've ticked from the twenty five to

585
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: fifty four age group. I now have to tick the

586
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: other box. I don't count. I don't count because you know,

587
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: we're not the biggest consumers, and we're not they're not

588
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: interested in it, and they're in our ratings and they're

589
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: not interested in our and it's just like I'm spending

590
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: more money now than Yeah, I am in society more

591
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: than I ever have. Funny though, there is that kind

592
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: of tapping of aging. Yeah, there is.

593
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: I so do what you mean?

594
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, just turning forty. I recently checked the new box,

595
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: like I think it was, like, you say, are thirty

596
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: to thirty nine? I was like, oh no, I'm in.

597
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: A new category now.

598
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: So that's a lot someone who's categorized me.

599
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 2: And out of the mainstream.

600
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, in this chunk now, that's how it goes. So

601
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: then needs to talk about double packs? Your Madeline have

602
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: been friends, yes for a long time. Yeah, yeah, And

603
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: so the opportunity came up. And I mean, and it

604
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: is about lesbian couple. But isn't it great that I

605
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: mean it's mainstreamers. I don't but that's not the premise

606
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: of the show. Absolutely, I totally agree, And I think

607
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: that's why this show in its own way is sort

608
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: of quietly revolutionary, because it was made specifically to be

609
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: a to have broad appeal, to be entertaining on a

610
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: main broadcast network. And the central couple is queer, but

611
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they are lesbians is not what the

612
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: show is about, and their sexuality is never in question,

613
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: Like we have had, you know, lead characters who are

614
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: queer on TV before and the movie is, but a

615
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of the time, their sexuality is the thing that's

616
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: being questioned, you know, are they act, are they actually queer?

617
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Are they having or are they going to have an

618
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: affair or a straight person? But whereas with this their

619
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: sexuality is a given, and it's also not what the

620
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: show was about. It's about a relationship and how two

621
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: people navigate brotherhood. Society really has changed, Yeah, I think

622
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: it has. I still think there's a way to go though,

623
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're moving in the right direction for four. Yeah, yeah,

624
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: I wonder I worry less about now the sexuality, if

625
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: you like, and more the genders. Yes, absolutely, and how

626
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: people navigate their way through that and we all get

627
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: our heads around it into a respectful way that yes,

628
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: treats everyone as as they should be treated.

629
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, But.

630
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: I I mean I was on plane last night and

631
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, and I sort of had these you know

632
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: guys my age really, so I shouldn't say older guys,

633
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: but you know guys my age. And one of them went, hey,

634
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: is this you? And you had my podcast? And I

635
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: said yeah. I said what are you going to listen?

636
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: Because download now before we go out. And I said,

637
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: what are you gonna listen to? Her goes, I listen

638
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: to Ryan Bridge. I said, cool, listen to Ryan. Yeah,

639
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: it's a good one, you know. Anyway, about twenty five

640
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: minutes in, he literally he laughs out loud and he

641
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: takes his earphones out and you go and I said,

642
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: what are you laughing at? And he goes, oh, you

643
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: said to Ryan? Are you more conservative? And Ryan went,

644
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: for God's sake, I sleep with men, you know, I think,

645
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: so he was repeating it.

646
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

647
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: The guy in the middle seat goes, oh, is Ryan gay?

648
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: And then someone else went, I didn't know Ryan is gay?

649
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: And then someone else went who cares?

650
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: And I care?

651
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just kind of loved this random conversation. Yes, yes,

652
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: and so, which I guess shows that it is still

653
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: a thing. You know that people are still like, oh

654
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: oh oh is he gay? You know, it's still not

655
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: completely normalized. Ye, but thankfully I think we are moving

656
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: in the right Yeah. And the end that Ryan can

657
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: talk publicly about it. Yeah, because remember in the past,

658
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: so particularly with men leading men or a leading journalist,

659
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: they could not have met their sexuality, which is just

660
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: so it's awful, wasn't it. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

661
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: mean he would say that he almost feels privileged, but

662
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: he shouldn't.

663
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: That hand in this time and this time.

664
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we look at the past and you know,

665
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: some of that that heaven. Okay, so let's talk about

666
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: not being typecast. Okay, of course you've done everything. Yeah, hey,

667
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: like which is so fantastic and so do you think

668
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: about that?

669
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: So this is comedy, This is quite different.

670
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Yes, has been something that's kind of dramatic and intense,

671
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: like we side or it's quite different than almost you know,

672
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: your character grew considerably and outrageous, but it didn't start

673
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: as a well you were a main character, don't get

674
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: me wrong, but do you know what I mean, Like

675
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: you became more prominent yes, throughout the seasons really yeah,

676
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: so do you think about.

677
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: That diversification of not type casting.

678
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, and I think I have been lucky

679
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: to avoid it, because, particularly with outrageous Watune west Side,

680
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: that was really against my type. You know, those two

681
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: characters are really not really me, and it's not really

682
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: how I come across, because often you are type cast

683
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: by your kind of natural vibe and what you naturally

684
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: look like, whereas I know that I don't come across

685
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: like a wisty you know, like that. Those both those

686
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: characters are quite different from my essence, I suppose, and

687
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: so I think, because those are still the two characters

688
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: that I'm kind of best known for, I think I'm

689
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: not I haven't been type cast because I'm able to,

690
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: I guess, show people the breadth of what I can do.

691
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: And I also personally love the transformational process of playing

692
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: a character that's to you.

693
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I find it so.

694
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about acting is figuring out

695
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: the character. You know, who is this person? Why do

696
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: they do what they do, how do they move, how

697
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: do they talk. I'm with readA, for example. She was

698
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: a real transformation for me, like me a while to

699
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: find her, actually, but she really speaks differently to me.

700
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: She holds her body differently, she moves through the world

701
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: physically even quite different to me.

702
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: But I love that. I love that. Well, that's acting,

703
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: isn't it.

704
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. But some people sort of I think

705
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: there's not not no one where is right or wrong,

706
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: but some people kind of stick to their essence and

707
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: they bring that and it's beautiful and it's authentic. Like

708
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson is often the guy that people not like.

709
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: He's in every movie. He's Jack Nicholson and he's absolutely brilliant.

710
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: But then there are others you Grant, yeah, Hugh Grant exactly,

711
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: and you would never say that's a negative against them

712
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: because they're brilliant. But it's just kind of a different,

713
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: different way of approaching things. But yeah, I personally love Yeah.

714
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny because you quite I hadn't thought of

715
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: it until you were talking just then. But you know,

716
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: there are some actors that would you walk into the

717
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: pub and I would think, oh, there's there's Rita, you know, yes,

718
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: but if you walked into the pub, I would think, oh,

719
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: there's an Antonio. I wouldn't say you even though you.

720
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: Completely were her. But yeah, I don't think.

721
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: You are here.

722
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: It totally makes sense.

723
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a big difference between me and Rita, whereas,

724
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: for example, my character in Double Parked is the most

725
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: similar to me that I've ever played, And when I've

726
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: got the audition brief, it literally felt like that was

727
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: like has this been based on me? Like down to

728
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: things like you know, her dad is a lawyer? My

729
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: dad's a lawyer, and she knows she's a lawyer. I

730
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: went to law school, but just everything about her. So

731
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm playing the closest to me that I ever have

732
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, which is great as well.

733
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah it would be.

734
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: And working with a friend, right, yeah, yeah, not only

735
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: as an actor, but being directed by a friend as well,

736
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: because medal And directs the show as well.

737
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

738
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: It's a dream, isn't it to get to a point

739
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: where you can work with your friends. Yeah?

740
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Exactly, absolutely.

741
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about the industry changing, but I

742
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: mean you're in your prime.

743
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: This is your prime. You won Best Actress at.

744
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: The NCTV Awards that I see for your role on

745
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Double park That must have been about it was. It

746
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: was really special because often with comedies, they don't get

747
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: recognized for awards so much like it's usually dramas that

748
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: pick up the gongs and you can sort of understand why.

749
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: So I wasn't really expecting it that it was. And

750
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: you've all, I mean you talked about auditioning in Australia.

751
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Is overseas still an option? La, do you feel the pool?

752
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: I sort of do a bit more and more as

753
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: the kids get older, So yeah, Freddie's five and guses three,

754
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: and up until this point in their lives, it's just

755
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: felt like, oh my gosh, no, like that would be

756
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: a nightmare. And there have been like a couple of

757
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: opportunities that have come up overseas, but I've just been like, no,

758
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: it's it's too hard, and you've got a way up

759
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: professional development with your family commitments and you know what

760
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: will work for all of you as a unit. But

761
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: as they're getting older and things are a bit easier, Yeah,

762
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I am thinking about that again and Australia definitely, Yeah,

763
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: and that feels Australia.

764
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: Working in Australia feels a lot easier. Yeah.

765
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: You can get literally pop backwards and pop backwards, and

766
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: we know quite a few people there now, so we

767
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: could sort of fit into that environment quite yeatly. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

768
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: you can kind of slot on. So you must feel

769
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: like you're at a great place in your life. I mean,

770
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: here you are, you're forty, you're married, You've got your children,

771
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: your careers, and a trajectory that's going up. You have

772
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: got massive local opportunities, and then you're able to sort

773
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: of think about that bigger and brighter and the horizon,

774
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: and so that's a.

775
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: Really special place to be. Do you feel thank you? Oh,

776
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: that's really lovely of you to say. Yeah, I think

777
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: I mainly do.

778
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I feel. I feel so lucky with my family situation.

779
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: You know that I have these two wonderful children, and

780
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: that my husband is someone who I deeply love and

781
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: who we have a very happy life together. You know,

782
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: we have a really great relationship and I love I

783
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: love that, and I feel really really lucky that.

784
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, our domestic life is so wonderful.

785
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: And professionally, yeah, I probably don't feel as like, yes,

786
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm on this upwards, tragic, clear upwards trajectory, just because

787
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: I at.

788
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: The moment I don't know what my next job is, like.

789
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Maybe this one in Australia will happen, but if not,

790
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't.

791
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: Know what it is.

792
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: So I'm better at the uncertainty now because I know

793
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: that something will happen.

794
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: But I guess I don't.

795
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: I don't feel like great, I'm set, you know, I'm

796
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: just gonna keep riding this wave. I sort of feel

797
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: like I have to really keep doing my best all

798
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: the time. Would you hope that you boys go into acting?

799
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Would you recommend it to people? I really would just

800
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: want them to do what interests them. So I'm not

801
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, oh god, I'd never recommend

802
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: them getting into acting, or i'd really kind of discourage

803
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: them not to. But for me, I would support them

804
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: and whatever they wanted to do. So if it's acting, wonderful,

805
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: and if it's but the highs and lows, do you

806
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: think it's a certain personality that can handle it, because

807
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: often now actors are quite dramatic. Yeah, and so sensitive sensitive?

808
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think sensitivity comes with the territory. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

809
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: because you can't have to be to be good at it,

810
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, you have to have a thin skin

811
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: for your work, but somehow a thick skin.

812
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: For the rejection. Yeah, yep, it is. It is really hard.

813
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: I mean There's something that I've found works as an

814
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: anchor for me over the years, as not letting it

815
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: be your identity, like being it, which is tricky because

816
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: you're when you love something so much and you're so

817
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: passionate about it, it very easily can become your full identity.

818
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: Who are you?

819
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm an actress, but I now I really try to

820
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: have some separation in that, like it's my job and

821
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: it's my career and it's my calling.

822
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: I love doing it.

823
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: But if I'm not doing it, it doesn't mean that

824
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I have no value as myself, Like I still exist

825
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: without it, which.

826
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: Is not easy.

827
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: But and I think, yeah, for younger people starting out,

828
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: it is not easy, but I think you know, the

829
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: people that stick at it, it's meaningful to them. And

830
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, in life we just may as well pursue

831
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: what is meaningful. Yes, as far as we know, we

832
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: own it all once and then that can you say

833
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: that the rejection's not you, it's just you weren't quite

834
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: right for the part, or someone else was. I mean,

835
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: can you you know, because I'm quite good at that? Yeah, right,

836
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: you know you've got a problem. Well, actually you don't

837
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: know me. You might not like something I've done. It

838
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: was said, and you're perfectly entitled to eve an opinion

839
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: on that, but I'm not going to actually take it

840
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: personally because you don't know me as a person.

841
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's I.

842
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: Was my quick because I was told I was allowed

843
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: to ask a question. It was going to be that, like,

844
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: how do you manage the feedback that you get about you?

845
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: Like the both are positive and the negative, because I

846
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: imagine being a former politician because at least with my work,

847
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: people are judging my work, but they're judging yeah that

848
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: you and and feel they can and feel they got

849
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: a right to say that, like how can I I'm not.

850
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: So at the end of the podcast now we're doing it.

851
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: Now, that astly fine because because it flows nicely in

852
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: there and it's look, you can pretend it never does

853
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: and of course that's not true.

854
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, of course that's not true.

855
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: There are times when you know, I call it the

856
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: duvet over the head, you know, abotologen and feedal position

857
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: and I'll see you tomorrow, which I've even done.

858
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, or I go, you know,

859
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: does hurt?

860
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: It does hurt. Yeah, So there's got to be times

861
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: and that can be because you're overtired, it's been a

862
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: bit relentless. It's you know, like something's kind of taken

863
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: off and then it is. But lots of it's ridiculous,

864
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: like it's body shaming, or it's God, really that's still happening, yeah,

865
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: or it's you know kids, sorry, so that stuff, Well,

866
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I see, I can, I can, I can because that's

867
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: just so ridiculous. Yes, you know what I mean, like,

868
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's on them, it's.

869
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: On them, It's it's an indictment on them.

870
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: You can almost feel sorry for them, to be quite honest, Yeah,

871
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: because I just sort of think, wow, what a small

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Speaker 1: seed life, Yes, that you feel you need to personally

873
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: attack you know what I look like? Yeah yeah yeah yeah,

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00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: So I am quite good at compartmentalizing that.

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Speaker 2: That's great. Do you have to work on that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. So was it harder when you first got

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00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: into politics. Definitely, And the weight side was really hard.

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00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like it's such a vulnerable topic. Yeah,

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00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: and you know, some days you don't feel great about yourself, right,

880
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: and so it was this human Yeah, it's just like this,

881
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: you know, the sort of constant but The other thing

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Speaker 1: I think that you've always got to remember is I

883
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Speaker 1: would say ninety nine out of one hundred are positive.

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Speaker 1: You know, like, let's remember the people that go out

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Speaker 1: of Well. I say, when I lie in bed at

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Speaker 1: night and I've had and I've heard from twenty people,

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Speaker 1: I choose whether I listened to the nineteen that were

888
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: positive or the one that was negative. And that took

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00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: me some time. But I get to choose who's in

890
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: my head at night. Great, Yeah, that's really that's sometimes

891
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: I have demntra that, yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, ongoing practice,

892
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: yaues we have a negativity bias. Yeah, we take on

893
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: evil men that shouted at me from the car next door.

894
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: You know that you don't you don't get to live

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Speaker 1: in my head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, good advice.

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. So what's the best

898
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Speaker 1: advice you think that you've had?

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I liked thinking about this question.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've had so much of it, so

901
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: it was kind of hard to choose one. But I

902
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: think ultimately I want to come back to the thing

903
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: that has sort of been in my head for most

904
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Speaker 1: of my life, which is treat others how you want

905
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: to be treated. Because I think almost almost everything, if

906
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: not everything, in life comes back to interpersonal relationships and

907
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: the quality of them and how you feel about them,

908
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: the richness of them, the depth of them, how you

909
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: feel about your place within the relationships you have, and

910
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: the best way to ensure that they are the best

911
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: they can be is to treat people with kindness and

912
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Speaker 1: respect and compassion and generosity, all the ways that we

913
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Speaker 1: hope we would be treated. So, yeah, that's that's an anchor,

914
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Speaker 1: a really simple anchor that I try to live by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if we all did that, wouldn't it just

917
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Speaker 1: be just such a better world? I know? Yeah, so

918
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Speaker 1: much better? You know. Yeah, And even when you're a

919
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Speaker 1: bit snappy or you know you're tired and you've done that,

920
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Speaker 1: and it's just like even explaining that to someone in

921
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Speaker 1: three words, you have to go into a link having

922
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Speaker 1: a bad day today because the.

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Speaker 2: Kids wouldn't Yeah, that's right.

924
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: And then apologizing, right, Yeah, if you do behave in

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00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: a way that you would not like to be someone

926
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: to behave towards you, then you can own it and

927
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: apologize and that goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: Why did I just sorry? Bad day? Too much going

929
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Speaker 2: on in my head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great, like I snapped yes, and then people

931
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Speaker 1: know that it's not them, it's you know, it's you

932
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Speaker 1: as well, you know, having a moment. Yeah, yeah, that's right,

933
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Speaker 1: and you can repair that relationship and hopefully we'll be

934
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Speaker 1: okay moving forward. Okay, all right, I've just thoroughly enjoyed

935
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Speaker 1: chanting to you. It's been amazing, and Tony, thank you

936
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Speaker 1: for coming in. For those who want to see more

937
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: of you, they need to go to see double part.

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Speaker 1: They do, they sure do.

939
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Speaker 2: It's on now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you haven't caught the first season, go

941
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Speaker 1: and watch that on three now plus.

942
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Speaker 2: So go and have a look there.

943
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: And but we've got season two out now and we're

944
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Speaker 1: going through that journey of the babies and and gosh,

945
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Speaker 1: what a.

946
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Speaker 2: Juggle letter is. So it'll be lots of fun to watch.

947
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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to it.

948
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Speaker 1: And that's it for another episode of Asking Me Anything.

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Speaker 1: If you've enjoyed this episode, please follow Ask Anything on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts. While you are there,

951
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: check out some of the past ones. There's plenty industries

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Speaker 1: from and some fabulous people. I'll be back week Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but in the meantime, I'm Paula Bena. Ask me anything, Goodbye,