1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now, ASB started slashing its mortgage interest rates, one of 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: three banks, just minutes after the Reserve Bank dropped the 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: official cash rate by a quarter of a percent this afternoon. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: It's been a big day for ASB. Earlier this morning 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: it announced its run of record profits is over and 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: your profit dropped seven percent from last year's record high. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: It's now down to one point five five nine billion 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: dollars in the year to the end of June. Victoria 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: Short is asb's chief executive. Hey Vittoria, Hey Heather, were 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: you surprised by the cut today? 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: Well, actually, our ASP economics team we're picking a twenty 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: five basis point. CAT acknowledged it was going to be 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: finally balanced, but it is what they were picking. So 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: I think it's good news for New Zealand. 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Did you not, though, find yourself doing this because I 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: did and thinking, yeah, it should be a caut Everything 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: shows it should be a cut. But Adrian's got an ego. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 2: I think we looked at the fundamentals around you know, 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: we go back to why have the interest rates been 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: held high? To get inflation under control? And that's been 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: number one priority for all of us. So you know, 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: we've seen inflation coming down. The big question is is 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: it going to be coming down sustainably to a low 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: enough level. And that seems to be occurring, which is great. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: But there's one call out that I think was important 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: in the sort of judgment, and that's material weakening of 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: the domestic economic activity. So I think they are you know, 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: they're calling that out as one of the reasons for 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: the cat So we can't walk past that. 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: No, that's fair enough. I see you guys cut your 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: rates obviously immediately, which is great, but why are they 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: only taking effect next week? 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a little bit of time. We've got 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: sort of some legal processes, which means that we have 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: to adjust terms and conditions and make sure we get 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: all of our disclosures are ready to go, and so 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: that's why there's a little bit of a lag between 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: the announcement and when they are effective. 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Is it a relief to you? I mean, obviously, you 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: guys have this high interest rate environment has been heading 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: your profits. So are you relieved? 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: So? I think it's a really good thing for New 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: Zealand households and New Zealand businesses. So we've already been 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: reducing our fixed home loan rates. We started doing that 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: last year, so we've reduced them already by sixty basis points. 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: So this is really a continuation for us. But I 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: think what it's signaling for the country is that inflation 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: is getting under control and therefore the ocr can start 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: to come down, and that's a really important signal. 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Are you of the view that we need to also 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: temper oury expectations though? Is everybody's going to get super 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: excited about this, but actually it's going to take us 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: a while to build ourselves back up. 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, you know, to your point, it is going 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: to take time for this to really flow through the economy. 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: We are thinking that twenty twenty five is going to 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: be a really different year. We are expecting that credit 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: growth to build for businesses. We are expecting there to 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: be upward pressure on homelan prices as a result. So 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: we do think it's going to build over time, and 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: we don't think this is the last cart either. 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: What are you expecting before the end of the year 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: another twenty five basis points? 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, so at this stage where we're still calibrating, will 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: definitely depend on the data and how we see the 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: data evolving. On inflation and also you know, economic activity. 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: But we have about another fifty basis points that we 68 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 2: think could come out before Christmas. 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Now, Victoria, listen, you got the ComCom report coming out 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: next week, the banking report. Are you guys going to 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: get hammered in this? 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Well? I think the interesting question is how different is 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: the final report going to be from the draft report? 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: And I guess the only person who can answer that 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: is really the head of ComCom. 76 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: What have you heard. 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Nothing from ComCom? So you know we'll all be revealed 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: next week? 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Are you going to get hammered by the government with 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: its rural banking report? 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to to sort of answering some 82 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: of the questions that have been asked about the rules sector, 83 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: but also about business lending too. So, just like the 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: market study, I think it's a really good opportunity to get, 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: you know, the right questions on the table and really 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: get into them. 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, why do you want to answer those questions? 88 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: Is it because people have got themselves worked up unfairly 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: about you guys? 90 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: Look, I think there's a lot of things that I 91 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: hear that I've got a view on, and so it's 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: going to be a good chance to actually share those views. 93 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: And that's the whole point of it. 94 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: As a KEI, we do you support the capitalization of kiwibank. 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Ah. I don't think Kybank's a good topic for me. 96 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: So that's something that's the best left with those who 97 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: are in charge of that decision. 98 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Fair point. Hey, listen, I've got to ask you. I mean, 99 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: this is a key and I'm sorry, and nobody likes 100 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: talking about their pay but I've got to ask you 101 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: about it. How did you go over toy from two 102 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: million to five million in the space of a year. 103 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, this year in terms of my rem, it's 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: a highly unusual rem. It includes payments related to multiple 105 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: years since twenty nineteen. But what you're really getting at 106 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: is that, you know, I recognize this that executive rem 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: is controversial and particularly in this environment. So it's set 108 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: by the board and it's based on the market benchmark, 109 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's really the approach to the 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: board takes. 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Not at all what I was getting at. I was 112 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: just trying to get a tip from you on on how. 113 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: To do it. Well, it's like I say, it's multi 114 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: it's a strange year and it's multiple years starting from 115 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, so the ten consent through some data if 116 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: you're interested. 117 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and who am I kidding? I'm not up five 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: million dollars in the media. Geez, Victoria, Thank you very much. 119 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Vittoria short asb's chief executive. For more from Heather duplessy 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: Ellen Drive Listen live and news Talk said Be from 121 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.