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Speaker 1: The new Saudi back down three sixty looks real, as

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Speaker 1: I've just been saying, NRL allegedly facing losing at least

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Speaker 1: ten key players, Rugby Australia looking to block any Wallaby's

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Speaker 1: of the jump. Jim Dollans and Australian sports journalists back

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Speaker 1: with us. Jim Morning Today, Mike, how much fizz has

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Speaker 1: there been around us in the last few months? Are

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Speaker 1: people taking this seriously or are we just stort of

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Speaker 1: waking up to this now?

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Speaker 2: It pubbles to the surface a lot and then sort

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Speaker 2: of goes back yesterday. It's certainly with the starting date

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Speaker 2: apparently locked in for next year, it certainly did come

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Speaker 2: back to the surface with the talk of ten blayers

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Speaker 2: from the NRL, and somebody went on the record, Clinton Schaffofski,

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Speaker 2: who's a player manager. He's a former player, played for

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Speaker 2: a number of clubs, Canberra and Paramatta and also played

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Speaker 2: state of origin for Queensland. He has confirmed that he

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Speaker 2: has spoken to people from three sixty, which no one

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Speaker 2: else has said so far, and he also manages the

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Speaker 2: three players who the most mentioned, Zach Lomas, also Melbourne's

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Speaker 2: Ryan Pappenhausen and Jai Gray from South Sydney Now Zach Lomax.

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Speaker 2: There's been all sorts of rumors saying that he played

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Speaker 2: his last game for Paramatter as he was very keen

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Speaker 2: despite being contracted until the end of twenty twenty eight. Well,

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Speaker 2: Zach put paid to that last night at the Dallyms

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Speaker 2: when he said, no, my focus is on Paramatta next year.

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Speaker 2: It's not right that I'm going right.

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Speaker 1: So what we know allegedly is this thing begins October two,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, so we're less technically a year ago.

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Speaker 1: They actually haven't got a player, have they. There's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of heat we're talking to. There's no one

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Speaker 1: signed and said I'm.

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Speaker 2: Off no, and no coaches that don't have any venues yet.

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Speaker 2: There's been some thrown up and there's plenty of talk

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Speaker 2: to his money coming from all around the world, but

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Speaker 2: no one's actually put their hand up said yes, I'm

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Speaker 2: investing in this. Right.

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Speaker 1: So when I read about the Australian rugby, people going well,

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Speaker 1: you can't be a Wallaby if you're going to do this.

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Speaker 1: So this is kind of the shadow boxing. Will say this,

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Speaker 1: and you do that and we'll see where it shakes down.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Australian rugby is in a very strong position

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Speaker 2: because of the home World Cup in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Strange timing trying to do it a year out from

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Speaker 2: a Rugby World Cup. If this was happening a year

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Speaker 2: after the Rugby World Cup, I think a lot more

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Speaker 2: around Alumbells would be ringing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does it appeal to you, Jim? I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: these so based in London, Miami, Tokyo to buy a

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Speaker 1: Boston Cape Town, Lisbon, Madrid. Who cares? Like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: why am I watching that?

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Speaker 2: What for? And it's just like the Rugby World Sevens

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Speaker 2: that we already have. So there's some talk of the

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Speaker 2: Saudi involvement, maybe pitch for Saudi or Katsa to host

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Speaker 2: the future Rugby World Cup. And this could be a

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Speaker 2: very big bargaining chip because they've saw what happened with

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Speaker 2: golf and yeah, it's that say, the players can live

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Speaker 2: wherever they want as long as they play and what

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Speaker 2: will eventually firstly be six to eight week tournament and

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Speaker 2: then after that it will run for a couple of months.

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Speaker 2: But like the Seventh Circus so and there's no talk

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Speaker 2: of anywhere in South Africa Australia or New Zealand, which

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Speaker 2: would pretty much be rugby heartlands you would need to win.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and we've already got too much rugby, haven't we.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, well not enough for these people. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's very costly exercise and yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: see where the positives are yet.

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Speaker 1: What Okay, So reputation on the line this morning, Jim,

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Speaker 1: I ring you August September next year? Is this real?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to start? And in the ensuing period

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six have they signed some gobs making

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Speaker 1: names and we're all going, oh my god, look at this.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so. They wouldn't need to get so

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Speaker 2: many players out of their contracts because in Australia rugby

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Speaker 2: league and rugby contracts run from November one to October

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Speaker 2: thirty one, so they would or even the players are

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Speaker 2: off contract next year in the NRL and rugby would

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Speaker 2: still be under contract when its ornament starts the year

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Speaker 2: from today.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, or I might go, well, appreciate you getting up

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Speaker 1: early in the morning, Jim Dolan out of Australia, So

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Speaker 1: just if you're interested, so this time next year it

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Speaker 1: starts teams for female teams twenty twenty seven. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Real Rugby Cup year twelve event competition runs from April

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Speaker 1: to September, include semis and a final. Men's competition will

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Speaker 1: expand to eight teams by twenty twenty eight. Competition will

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Speaker 1: include sixteen events from April to September. The franchise locations,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, their sort of glamour Northern Hemisphere type spots.

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Speaker 1: I guess teams will be registered to the United Arab

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Speaker 1: Emirates Rugby Federation. Players will be granted full release to

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Speaker 1: play international rugby. But that's the problem. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: can't be a Wallaby. You can be released to do

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Speaker 1: what The players will own their IP, not be owned

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Speaker 1: by their team or R three sixty. A player draft

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Speaker 1: July of next year will take place. All players will

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Speaker 1: be able to choose their country of residents, won't be

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Speaker 1: asked to reside in their franchise location. So I suppose

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Speaker 1: we'll see where that goes. For more from the Mic

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