1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Very Sope is here, senior political correspondent. Very good afternoon, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Right now, I'm dying to know what you 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: think of a four year term because I'm all for it. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: I think we need to look a bit more longer 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: term when we're planning. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'd be all for it if I didn't think 7 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: about the unbridled power of the Labor Party in the 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 2: last three years they were in office. But you know 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: the thing is, I remember voting in nineteen ninety on 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: a four year term and there was an eighty two 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: percent turnout for that referendum and sixty nine percent voted 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: to keep it at three years. The one before that 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: was a long time before nineteen sixty seven turnout was 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: seventy percent. Sixty eight percent voted to keep it the 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: same at three years. So there doesn't seem to be 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: the appetite. Although what I would argue is the three 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: year parliamentary term leads to what we see now the 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: boom bust election cycles, because first year is getting used 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: to being in power, second year, as see, third year 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: is winning re election. Yeah, so it's it's it is 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: boom bust and it doesn't give you much time to 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: develop decent policy. You mentioned in your introduction about infrastructure. 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: You know, you've got to have you've got to have 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: more solidity when it comes to policy through government and 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: four years would do that. But you know it would 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: take it'd be an entrench vote in Parliament as well. Yes, 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: it would be a binding referendum. But entrenchment means that 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: seventy five percent of Parliament would have to agree to 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: change the amount of time. But politicians, of course they're 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: going to vote for four years of rather nice for them. 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, exactly, and I think they'd get that, all 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: agree on that quite happily. Yes, seventy five quite quickly. Yeah, okay, interesting, 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: but it's a very complicated how this actually, how it 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: works and what needs to happen, according to David Seymour 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: before it even gets there. So we'll talk to David 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Seama after five about that. But Lux's of Vietnam. He's 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: talking about the risks in the region. 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. There was one point he made and I've heard 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: it being made before, and I think he's absolutely right. 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: He said, it's become starkly apparent that we're in a 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: world where rules are being subsumed by power as the 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: key determinant of advancing states interests. Now, the media that 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: were with them asten whether he is referring to China there, 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: I would think he was probably referring to the United States, 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: whereas the rule base has gone with the US and 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: Trump is ruling in his own way. But look, he 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: gave a speech in Vietnam. He talked about sending one 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: of our naval frigates that will put the woolies up 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 2: the Chinese. Of course, car going to the South China Sea. 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: The thing is, we'd probably take it there, sink it 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: and make a new island. They hate new islands in 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: the South. 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you know, I don't think that'll 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: be that'll be threatening to the Chinese. But nevertheless, he 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: was talking about going to Vietnam and maybe doing some 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: naval excess in the area. It would be in the 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: South China Sea, but it would be away from the 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: strait the Taiwan straight, I would think, and. 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: The controversial islands that they protect so closely. Yes, now, 60 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: this is the video has been doing the rounds. It's 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Ai generated video of Donald Trump the gars of Riviera. 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Oh honestly, you'll remember earlier this month, during a joint 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: press conference with Netanyahu at the White House, Trump made 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: the surprising announcement that the US will take over the 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Gaza Strip, own it, and undertake economic development there and 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: create it, create unlimited numbers of jobs and housing. I mean, 67 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: you've only even look at the Gaza Strip to see 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: how bad it is at the moment. But look, he 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: doubled down on that within He posted this video himself 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: on Instagram and on another platform as well. But here's 71 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: the music that goes with the video, bringing. 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: The light to see no more tunnels, no more fear 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: to right shop, Guzzer number one, chop guzza number one. 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean, can you believe that the President of the 75 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: United States would post that? And there are visuals that 76 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: go with it. They've got this guy gantuan state statue 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump in gold on the Gaza Strup. I mean, 78 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: he probably really thinks that. Look, he could make a 79 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: difference in the Gaza. Forget the Palestinians that just moved 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: them out at the moment, almost two and a half 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: million of them. Where do you put them? Well, he 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: says they're gonna and Turkey. You know, they're all happy 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: to have them. I mean that it's apostos. 84 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: The video itself was made. Someone else must have made 85 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: it on air. You can because you can go on 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: AI and make videos now I've only just learned about 87 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: this in the last week, and you. 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: Could say you're making them now. Periods. 89 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Well, you could put in like and it makes things 90 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: more and more extreme. So you could say, I want 91 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: a video of I don't know, Let's say Peter Dunn. 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: You know how, we would have his funny hair combed 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: over and he'd have his bow ties. Yes, So it'd 94 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: have a video, an aid video of Peter Dne. And 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: then you could say more Peter Dunn, and the bow 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: tie would be twice the size and the hair would 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: be twice as big, and you could say more and 98 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: more and more, and it creates these things, and by 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: the end of it, you've got your Trump Gaza Revere. 100 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: And you've got the president taking it seriously and posting 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: I mean, how could you do that if you're a 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 2: president and you see tens of thousands of people having 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: been killed in the Gaza strip and post something that's 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: as frivolous as this, I mean, it does raise questions 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: about leadership. Then I'm the last one to talk about Trump. 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: No, that's true, Barry, thank you very much. Nine minutes 107 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: away from five. That's Bearing Soper Scene, their political correspondent 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: here at news Talk semb For more from Hither Duplessy 109 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, listen live to News Talk SEB from four 110 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio