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Speaker 2: Hello you, good people, Welcome to the Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: podcast for Tuesday, Big Day to Day. Many said to

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Speaker 2: shoot off for another appointment, but we had some great

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Speaker 2: chat about protest numbers, how many people actually attend protests,

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Speaker 2: and who counts those people? And how do you count

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Speaker 2: penguins as well? A gentleman whose job it was to

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Speaker 2: count penguins. That's what we love about talkback. Then we

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Speaker 2: also cut through some of the heat and had some

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Speaker 2: great convos on the hikoy after two o'clock, a lot

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Speaker 2: of love for a Kune. It was on the back

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Speaker 2: of the Desert Road being closed for two months over summer,

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Speaker 2: but my, oh my, the amount of people that rang

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Speaker 2: through and said, take the alternative Highway. Aha, Kune is

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Speaker 2: amazing National park. Give them some love, get some carrots.

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Speaker 2: Then we talked about the o Mad diet, speaking of carrots,

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Speaker 2: eating just one meal a day. Bruce Springsteen loves it,

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Speaker 2: Chris Martin loves it, so Cliff Richard loves it. So

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Speaker 2: we had some fascinating chat about INTI minute fasting and

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Speaker 2: how can I put this lightly? The freaks out there

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Speaker 2: that can fast for more than one day, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you do it anyway. That was Tuesday. We'll

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Speaker 2: do it all again tomorrow, Hnday, Wednesday. We'll catch you

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Speaker 2: then your.

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Speaker 1: New home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons on News Talk Sabbe, good.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon to you. Hope you're doing well on this Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: big day today in a big afternoon after three o'clock Maddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right after three o'clock. The big issue that

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Speaker 3: a everyone's facing at the moment is fasting because it

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Speaker 3: turned out that Bruce Springsteen is on eating once a

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Speaker 3: day and my new best mate Chris Martin from Coldplayers

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Speaker 3: are only eating once a day as well. So we

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Speaker 3: want to talk about diets. Does fasting work? Are you

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Speaker 3: doing it? I tried it for a year and ended

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Speaker 3: up eating so much at lunchtime that I started putting

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Speaker 2: So I didn't work for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to know what people think actually

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Speaker 3: works as a diet, because I think that probably just

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Speaker 3: eating whole foods and eating normally and just making changes.

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Speaker 3: Someone said, if you're going to start a diet, if

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Speaker 3: you can't keep it up for the rest of your life,

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Speaker 3: then there's no point.

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Speaker 2: It's good advice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you choose a diet that is going to

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Speaker 3: keep you healthy for your whole life.

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Speaker 2: What have you chosen?

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Speaker 3: Well, as I said, I was just probably at the moment,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to eat whole foods. So you just eat

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Speaker 3: whole foods three times a day and try not to

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Speaker 3: eat too much. That's basically what I'm trying to do.

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Speaker 2: You've nailed it. That's the chat after.

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Speaker 3: It's not very glamorous.

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Speaker 2: That's the chat after three o'clock. And there's some good

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Speaker 2: science behind fasting. So looking forward to that after two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Desert Road will be shut for around two months four repairs.

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Speaker 2: They're going to shut it down early feb on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would it killed them to start like a week

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Speaker 3: people are finish the holidays. We work very hard in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand and holidays are important. So you're stealing maybe

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Speaker 3: but that's not going to change. Yeah, three months started

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let us have our holiday for goodness sake. That

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Speaker 2: the Hekoy are arriving at Parliament. They're join in. About

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Speaker 2: two hundred flags. Ethan Minera, Wellington News Talk ZB reporter

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Speaker 2: is there, Ethan, good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Can I go what's happening at the protests at the moment? Ethan?

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Speaker 4: What the protest is absolutely heaving. I cannot adequately describe

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Speaker 4: as I could see flags everywhere. Please, there's released some

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Speaker 4: flags aussing, whiter are chanting. It's still all go down

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Speaker 3: And what's the mood like, Yeah, it's really positive.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just you know, people chanting, people singing,

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Speaker 4: They are listening to speeches. Now some people have piped

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Speaker 4: But overwhelmingly positive. There's been no aggression, none of that.

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Speaker 4: A couple of incidents of people fainting in the crowd

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Speaker 2: Any sign of any politicians at the stage shethan.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't really move through the crowd that well.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's just so busy. Yeah. Any word on whether

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Speaker 4: Not that I've heard. I don't know. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: There's been some some things that I can't repeat in radio,

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Speaker 4: some very creative signs with some profane messages. But I'm

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Speaker 3: I don't think he would mind a hostile reception. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you say there's thirty five thousand people. Is that an

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just some numbers that have come through from police.

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Speaker 5: Now, there have been messages.

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Speaker 4: You know, no one can really judge the scale of

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Speaker 4: it's just filling the streets surrounding. People can't really move

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Speaker 4: all that well. But yeah, it's just you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't get here. It sung of lags. But as far

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to stick around at Parliament

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Speaker 2: Grounds for some time? Ethan? There was suggestion they would

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One speaker I just heard saying that they're about halfway

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Speaker 4: through the speeches. My understanding is that after that they've

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Speaker 4: been going to go back to white Ungy Park for

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Speaker 4: a week constant and to wrap things up those food

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Speaker 4: stools there. That's where they started marching Broms. It's across town,

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Speaker 4: so I understand the pekoy back to White Tingney Park

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Speaker 4: for some concert. San Walker's been playing today, he's here,

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Speaker 4: he's been singing, So hopefully this has been more of

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Speaker 3: There are two life crosses now that have mentioned that

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Speaker 3: there are dogs and attendants. Is there a significant amount

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Speaker 4: And it's even quite surprised by the amount of dogs.

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Speaker 4: I mean that, as I said, it's so tightly packed

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Speaker 4: mixed of dogs as well. There's been some stuffies that

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Speaker 4: gave one are we pats? But yeah, you're plenty of dogs,

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Speaker 3: And did the dogs and the babies get counted in

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Speaker 4: I'd have.

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Speaker 2: Definitely count the dogs. You know, it's important part of

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Speaker 3: It's funny that we always get these counts of protests

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Speaker 3: and it's always a police officer and they're put on

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Speaker 3: this spot and they're like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, numb Ethan. Thank you very much mate. We'll probably

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Speaker 2: catch up with you a little bit later this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Stay well, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, great, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: There is Ethan and Eera news dogs. There be Wellington reporter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wait one undred and eighteen eighty. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about the protests for a little bit here this morning.

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Speaker 3: What what do you think the protest is sitting out

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Speaker 3: to it? And we also want to talk about protests

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand, what protests work and what protests don't

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Speaker 3: in terms of this country historically. And we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk to Barry Soper about this after after one point

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see how this protest eventuates throughout the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: but protests in general. Keen on your thoughts on this one, Matt.

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Speaker 2: But I've got to say, I mean, so far this

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Speaker 2: particular protest march, this hecoy the only real disruption they've caused.

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm sure people will prove me wrong, but

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Speaker 2: was on the Harbor Bridge. But I've got to say,

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Speaker 2: when protests start to interrupt the daily lives of middle

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, that's a bad way to operate as a protest.

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Speaker 2: I think about the Climate March protesting and the people

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Speaker 2: gluing their hands to rhads. I mean, when you look

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Speaker 2: at this protest, I don't know if that's achieved that yet,

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Speaker 2: but what's your taken? I mean, does a protest like

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Speaker 2: from that police officer who knows how many people are

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Speaker 2: down there at Parliament Grounds right now, But does this

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Speaker 2: achieve what they think it's going to achieve?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll benually. I think I think a school

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Speaker 3: people are at home from school to aren't there in

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Speaker 3: a central Wellington school? I remember that? So I mean

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Speaker 3: that is some kind of interruption, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 2: the number to call, nine two ninety two. Love to

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Speaker 2: hear from you on this one. It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you

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Speaker 3: So yeah news talk zbit hundre at eighteen ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the protest at Parliament the moment and

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Speaker 3: I've got a wider issue here and it's protest size

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Speaker 3: numbers and crowd sized numbers in New Zealand. Do we

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Speaker 3: need to because what happens is we just asked someone

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Speaker 3: will just ask a police officer, and a police officer

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Speaker 3: isn't trained in guessing how big crowds are. And anyone

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Speaker 3: It's you divide it up into how many people can

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Speaker 3: It's very hard. Do we need to have do we

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Speaker 3: and is it important how big the crowd is? I mean,

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Speaker 2: How many people? And of course it's a question I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose would you do that job?

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Speaker 2: I could see you when a chopper just flying over

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then and maybe you don't have the official count.

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Speaker 3: And then you ask the questions, can you count children?

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Speaker 3: Because can you count people that didn't have a choice

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Speaker 3: whether they went? Do you count dogs? There's a number

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Speaker 2: Well, of course you can, no good boys. I mean,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Just on their question, does it really matter

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I mean as a percentage of population.

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Speaker 3: And how does it works? I guess the bigger the crowd,

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Speaker 3: mean do they want to have a is the protest

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but there's no science to say to

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Speaker 2: Paul, afternoon, mate, what guys, how are you ye? Mate?

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Speaker 2: What's your take on this?

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Speaker 8: I can tell you that Eiden Park has electronic gate

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Speaker 8: three times, right, it's counting them as as three individuals

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Speaker 8: So it doesn't take them off that total. So if

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Speaker 9: Out or you know, bo or whoever, has to be

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Speaker 8: Front of house or back house. They're going in out

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Speaker 8: ten times in them as ten individuals, not one individual

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Speaker 3: so they had I'm not sure how many they had,

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Speaker 2: I bet it was.

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Speaker 8: A needle intack and needles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you've got people moving in and out. It's

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Speaker 8: So I wonder if there's any that they still have

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Speaker 3: Well, at that one, you didn't want to be the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 10: Perhaps we can argue that the crime wave and sense

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Speaker 10: have finally come to a need police Minister Marke Mitchell

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Speaker 10: as well as what are the areas that you are

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Speaker 6: Basically the same things that we came into government's. It's

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Speaker 10: The ram raid issue which plagued just literally daily for

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Speaker 8: Or am I wrong?

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Speaker 11: No, that's you're right.

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Speaker 6: And look the reality of isis tribes they're going to

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Speaker 2: Twenty six past one hour in your call Tavi, a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you guys were talking before about the amount

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Speaker 5: that's kind of pointless in a protest. The idea of

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Speaker 5: would disagree with apartheid or no, there should be no

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Speaker 5: mining there, whatever it is, you need to get that across.

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Speaker 5: What's been disappointing about this current protest is you've got

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Speaker 5: news update before that, it looks like Seymour or anyone

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Speaker 5: from actual proponents that the girl won't be coming up

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Speaker 5: said they were told they were not welcome to come

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Speaker 5: about stopping it. It is not about having a conversation

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess whether there will, whether David Seymour

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and that would be quite well. I mean

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Speaker 5: it would kind of be pointless because they're speaking to

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Speaker 5: the whole thing here is I believe majority of New

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Speaker 5: Zealanders don't know what in the Treaty Principles Bill and

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Speaker 5: most people probably can't even name when the original Treaty

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Speaker 5: principles were signed off. Do you guys know given that

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Speaker 5: you're working the news, Well.

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Speaker 3: There was nineteen seventy five when the original principles were

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Speaker 5: Started, Yeah, and then signed off under Longi's government. But yes,

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Speaker 5: And so that's why it's been a bit disappointing on

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Speaker 5: this is that, Noel, there's a big side that don't

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Speaker 5: want to hear this read. They don't want it to

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Speaker 5: go through. But let's just have the conversation because those

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Speaker 5: and we'll go Actually, no, we don't need that Principal's

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but anyone can have any protests they want on anything.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to justify their protest as long as

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Speaker 3: That isn't that isn't violent.

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Speaker 5: That's true. John Minto lives in our city. So we've

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Speaker 5: saved every second week.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever joined a protest?

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Speaker 5: Eric, Absolutely, I've been on protest. I've been on a

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Speaker 5: You know, I went and listen to the protesters when

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Speaker 5: Most people wouldn't engage with them. I went down to

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Speaker 5: COVID you have to listen to them. And that's what

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Speaker 5: I want to hear from this lot is. I want

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Speaker 5: that you're not happy with something. Tell me why win

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron, thank you very much. Oh one hundred and eighty.

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Speaker 2: Ten eighty is the number of call. Got the headlines

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Speaker 2: coming up, so we'll come back to more of your

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Speaker 12: It is one nine.

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Speaker 13: You talk, there'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

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Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. About thirty five thousand

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Speaker 13: people have joined the hikoi that's ended on Parliament's lawn,

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Speaker 13: protesting the Treaty Principles. Will Protesters cloaked in the colors

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Speaker 13: of ten rang Tanga a spill into the surrounding streets

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Speaker 13: while Wayata and the sound of fireworks filled the air.

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Speaker 13: Organizer Edu Kappa Kinges addressed the crowd, saying thy've committed

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Speaker 13: to a journey of liberation.

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Speaker 4: Here we are where are here?

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Speaker 3: The Bills author.

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Speaker 13: David Seymour has made a brief appearance on Parliament's fore court,

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Speaker 13: standing behind police officers and flanked by his Act caucus.

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Speaker 13: He was loudly booed when he waved at the crowd

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Speaker 13: before the group went back inside. In other news, the

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Speaker 13: desert road is shutting between Too Dangi and wy you

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Speaker 13: do for repairs for about two months from January sixth

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Speaker 13: until the end of February. The coaching change the All

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Speaker 13: Blacks must make. See Chris Ratu's full column. At En

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Speaker 13: said Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Oh weite hundred eighty ten eighty. We're talking about the

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Speaker 3: protest at Parliament and Allen, you've got some thoughts on counting.

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Speaker 14: Yes, so on counting.

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Speaker 15: I used to count penguin colonies and the recognized way

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Speaker 15: is minimum three people and system one spot and you

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Speaker 15: sit there with pen and paper in cam groups.

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Speaker 14: This is good.

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Speaker 15: You'll be surprised they are very close to the same

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Speaker 15: figure at the end of the daw in this case

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Speaker 15: should put a drive up and take a picture. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: I mean you'd quickly developed and start counting, get have.

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Speaker 14: It with it and there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's an interesting thing how widely varied the

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Speaker 3: reporting are and our current method of finding out how

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Speaker 3: many people are at any event in New Zealand is

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Speaker 3: to ask just the police, the nearest policeman, and the

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Speaker 3: policeman stands there and goes a reckon ten.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, they estimate, but very simple. Just put a

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Speaker 15: grown up and take a picture, and you quickly developed

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Speaker 15: the pitcher. You just take screenshot, you sit down and

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Speaker 15: start counting, and it doesn't take that long. It was

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Speaker 15: quite fast.

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Speaker 2: How often do you get out and count penguins?

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Speaker 16: Ellen, Oh, I used to know it.

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Speaker 14: I don't live it anymore now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, someone's saying that five people with square meter

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Speaker 3: is average role of thumb. So thirty five thousand people

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Speaker 3: need seven thousand square meters of land one hundred meters

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Speaker 3: time seventy meters, which is not a huge space.

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Speaker 15: But if you actually put a droll up and shot up,

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Speaker 15: you'd even pick up surrounding streets. Yeah, and you just

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Speaker 15: go along and you start spot counting and you just

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Speaker 15: count the heads as very fast. It might take an

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Speaker 15: hour and a half of you to have a pretty

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Speaker 15: good air quick figure for an open part.

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Speaker 3: I guess with humans it becomes and protests that comes

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Speaker 3: a little bit more complicated because do you go the

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Speaker 3: peak or how many different people were there throughout the

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Speaker 3: time of it, So you could say, well, over the

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Speaker 3: day we had this many people, but at the peak

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Speaker 3: when you put your drone up, you go, well, this

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Speaker 3: is about the peak time, put your drone up and

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Speaker 3: go at peak it was this many people.

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Speaker 15: Yes, absolutely, So it's not a hard short we.

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Speaker 3: Just don't have anyone in charge that it doesn't seem

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Speaker 3: to be a priority and it might actually seem like

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Speaker 3: a trivial point. But for me, I'm always I'm always

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Speaker 3: flabbergasted by how different the counts are from anything that

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Speaker 3: happens in New Zealand. They can range from a quarter

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Speaker 3: you know, some people are saying a quarter of what

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Speaker 3: other people are saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we need to get Allen down there. Alan,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, mate, being how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on the protest?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, morning afternoon, Tyler. Yeah, well I put it this way,

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Speaker 12: I'm not there. Oh, I'm twenty eight sent Scottish and

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Speaker 12: four percent Irish YEP and two percent English.

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Speaker 14: In sixty six.

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Speaker 12: If you say to me, I'm disappointed, how I never

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Speaker 12: hear the conversation how this this there is two treaties

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Speaker 12: and then to one in English and the one in Mary.

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Speaker 12: They both mean two different different things, and not just

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Speaker 12: by a little bit. I mean they both talk about sovereignty.

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Speaker 12: One season sovereignty see that the other seas that it's not.

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Speaker 12: And I think Seymour has jumped a gun on it

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Speaker 12: a bit. You know, I can see why there is

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Speaker 12: a lot of anger from Maori because I know for

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Speaker 12: a fact that Mali see to T t T or

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Speaker 12: white tonguey is the one that was understood and signed

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Speaker 12: by the indigenous people of this country one hundred and

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Speaker 12: eighty years ago. And I think we need to have

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Speaker 12: that conversation first before we go anywhere there pulling out

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Speaker 12: you know, right this is the one the other side

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Speaker 12: of that too. You know, you've got the English language

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Speaker 12: not being an official national language here just at the

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Speaker 12: facto and Mary being a first thing which here in

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Speaker 12: our official national language.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it? And I think I think they recently made

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Speaker 3: English and official language. But if they did, if we

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Speaker 3: if they decided on which particular treaty was the one

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Speaker 3: they wanted to go with, would you then be happy

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Speaker 3: with that being locked in place as it is and

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Speaker 3: not being interpreted further from there.

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Speaker 12: Definitely? Definitely. But then you're also going to have the

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Speaker 12: other side of it, which you noticed all the old

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Speaker 12: older folks there.

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Speaker 3: I know, yep, they're still there.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you have all the older folks there flying the

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Speaker 12: Fokaputunga League, the Declaration of Independence signed by we and

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Speaker 12: King George back in eighteen thirty five. So yeah, then't

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Speaker 12: going to be having those ones going hey, hang on,

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Speaker 12: there's no treatis I mean nothing, this was signed before

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Speaker 12: and this is a declaration of independence. So I think

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Speaker 12: either way you go, you're always going to have those

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Speaker 12: go hey, but wait, I just want to say, for

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Speaker 12: the last hundred eight years, we've led the world and

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Speaker 12: showing how we can live together. He used, there's been

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Speaker 12: some neggel here and there, but I think we need

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Speaker 12: to we just need to not to dig up the

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Speaker 12: past like that. Listen, if you just need to carry on,

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Speaker 12: leave it alone. Were we lead the way, Look at

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Speaker 12: look at talis on. Look, you're going to look at

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Speaker 12: other places. You've only got to go and see that

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Speaker 12: we don't want it here. And we've we've done all right. Yep,

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Speaker 12: we've done all right for the last hundred eight years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, being you're a good man. Thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for giving us a buzz. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: And we're going to talk to Barry Soaper next about

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Speaker 3: the history of protest in New Zealand. He's live at Parliament.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

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Speaker 1: madd Even Tyler Adams Afternoon News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDB. We're just wanting to get ahold of

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Speaker 2: Barry Soaper, our senior political correspondence will have a chat

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Speaker 2: term soon, but we're going to pick up this conversation

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Speaker 2: again in the meantime. I one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is the number to call. So we have been talking

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Speaker 2: about the protest, but there's banging a lot of discussion

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Speaker 2: around how do we count how many people are at

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Speaker 2: an event or a protest? Matt five people with square meata.

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Speaker 2: You're kidding, it's not a friggin good time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually questioning that. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: how you count people, and when I said that, outline

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Speaker 3: as could you fit five people and.

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Speaker 2: A square meter? Yeah, yeah, that's pretty tight, that's pretty cozy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we might have been talking about penguins there, especially

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Speaker 3: if people are sitting down and moving around. Yeah, I

581
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Speaker 3: think I think there's a good point there. I might

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Speaker 3: have been jumping the gun a little bit there with

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Speaker 3: five people b square meter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I think we might have been been Were

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Speaker 2: we chatting to you before?

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Speaker 12: Here your hand?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, No, we can sing.

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Speaker 12: I can sing a song for you.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: How about what you do?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Give us a line?

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Speaker 9: It best I can?

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Speaker 2: All right, go well, mate, go well, Ben just can't

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Speaker 2: stay away, Kenny. Guys. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 2: the protest per se, But to a point the earlier

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Speaker 2: caller mate about having a debate, I think we should

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Speaker 2: have a debate. It makes me sad to see the

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Speaker 2: situation that's happening now. Are we mature enough to have

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Speaker 2: a debate before it gets to legislation? That is the

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Speaker 2: big question. It's a good text.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but I mean when it comes down

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Speaker 3: to a protest. I mean, protests aren't generally speaking debates,

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Speaker 3: are they. They're normally people going out and having the

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Speaker 3: essay as loudly as they possibly can. So the actual

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Speaker 3: protest that's happening right now, you know, I guess David

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Speaker 3: Seymour could come out and talk to them, but I

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Speaker 3: imagine he wouldn't be listened to. But I mean, how

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Speaker 3: many how many protests have you ever seen where there's

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Speaker 3: been a debate between two sides. That's not really a protest.

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Speaker 3: Work protests more about you getting as many people as

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Speaker 3: you can together to show your support for your side.

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Speaker 2: Right, things up made by noise.

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Speaker 3: The debate should happen in parliament.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Robbie, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 9: I'm great?

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Speaker 17: How are we going?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good to chat with you. So you are on a

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Speaker 2: Maria committee?

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Speaker 18: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: I am?

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Speaker 17: And there's a shout out to Timuri. We have a

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Speaker 17: few of our fano have gone down there and so

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Speaker 17: I support the COPA but more than that, I support

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Speaker 17: the discussion. I think, as one of your text messages

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Speaker 17: came through, it's quite a shame that we can't have

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Speaker 17: a chat about it. The American Constitution has.

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Speaker 4: A number of amendments.

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Speaker 17: And so while our document, our treaty, is a founding document,

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Speaker 17: it wasn't a long time ago. And I think there's

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Speaker 17: probably things on both sides that we'd like to come

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Speaker 17: back and maybe revisit. And it doesn't even have to

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Speaker 17: change it. And if you have a look at what

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Speaker 17: Seymour's will do, he's.

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Speaker 18: Not changing it.

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Speaker 17: In nineteen eighty nine, David longiy Christian the White Tongue

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Speaker 17: Tribunal and he put some changes in probable don't remember that.

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Speaker 17: So the treaty do you boys?

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Speaker 4: Do you boys?

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Speaker 19: Off?

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Speaker 20: Off the top of your head?

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Speaker 17: You know the three articles of the treaty?

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Speaker 3: No, not off the top of my head.

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Speaker 17: No, yeah, No, ninety nine percent of New Zealand don't.

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Speaker 17: So it's this discussion. At least got wee New Zealanders

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Speaker 17: familiar with the three articles? Wouldn't there be a good thing?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And how do you feel just on what the treaty

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Speaker 2: principal bill contains, Robbie, how do you feel about the

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Speaker 2: way those principles have been drafted up?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I understand where they're coming from. And I think let's

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Speaker 17: have the discussion. Let's at least ay they're not that radical.

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Speaker 16: That that they're that bad that we don't we can't.

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Speaker 17: At least say yeah, let's discuss equality for all New Zealanders. Well,

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Speaker 17: and the treaty that the wierd The treaty wasn't about

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Speaker 17: the equites of all New Zealands. It was about the crown.

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Speaker 17: And here we essentially contract. And I think you then,

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Speaker 17: if you've got on and visited a Maria, everyone Tree

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Speaker 17: is equally on a Maria. I don't think we have

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Speaker 17: to as pakias as at a t tennity. I don't

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Speaker 17: think we need to be scared that Mary are going

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Speaker 17: to take over and we're going to lose our houses

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Speaker 17: and we're going to lose this. We're going to lose that.

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Speaker 21: That's that's not That's not what it's it's about.

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Speaker 17: And so to me, it's about the conversation. I don't

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Speaker 17: think David Seema's Simol's done, Bill it's that radical. Really,

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Speaker 17: it's quite generic.

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Speaker 21: But at least have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: So why do you think it's had such a huge reaction,

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Speaker 3: and you know there's been an outpouring of anger against it.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think that it is if if you

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Speaker 3: don't see it as being particularly controversial.

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Speaker 5: Because I think it's what's happening in the world at

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Speaker 5: the moment.

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Speaker 21: It's right versus left, it's conservative versus non conservative. I

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Speaker 21: think that this and I've heard that this is equally

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Speaker 21: a protest against a right wing government. Is this some

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Speaker 21: backlash to what happened in the United States? Who knows

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Speaker 21: what I think. But this is the nature of how

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Speaker 21: most political situations go throughout the world. You know, Donald

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Speaker 21: Trump gets in, people are then bagging him just because

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Speaker 21: he's right wing. And we sort of with Boris Johnson,

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Speaker 21: and we've seen it with lots of different political movements,

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Speaker 21: Trudeau and Canada and the left, the West particularly has

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Speaker 21: become I hate to say it, boy was, but quite

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Speaker 21: left in the media and the institutions which teaching and

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Speaker 21: they throw this stuff down at their students and so

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Speaker 21: people grow up with it.

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Speaker 9: What I hear the other day, I said.

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Speaker 21: You know, when you're twenty, you're left and when you're

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Speaker 21: fifty you go right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 3: It does tend to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. So where for you, Robbie, and you

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Speaker 2: mentioned there, We're going to talk about it. We're going

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Speaker 2: to have this debate and I imagine over the next

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Speaker 2: six months while it's in Select Committee, hopefully that happens

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Speaker 2: and we're mature enough to do that. But where is

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Speaker 2: the appropriate place to have those discussions to keep it

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Speaker 2: above board?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think I think it's Parliament is where it starts.

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Speaker 21: And unfortunately the party may have It's not the first time.

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Speaker 21: I mean, it was quite an aggressive Harker wasn't towards

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Speaker 21: David Seymour, and it was very aggressive, almost on assault

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Speaker 21: with what they did. And I've got no problem with

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Speaker 21: what happened in the Harker. I think it's got New

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Speaker 21: Zealand on the on the map, and we've got people

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Speaker 21: around the world talking about it. I've got no problem

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Speaker 21: but to shout him down as Willie Jackson did and

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Speaker 21: called him a liar and those sorts of things in it.

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Speaker 21: I thought that the Speaker of the House did a

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Speaker 21: great job, right he kicked Willie out and and he said, right,

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Speaker 21: it's suspend. That's the only thing you could do. I'll

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Speaker 21: be interested to see what happens the next time it

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Speaker 21: comes up for reading. What's going to happen is he

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Speaker 21: And that's the thing is, it's just you know, it's

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Speaker 21: not like the flag. I mean, you know John Key's

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Speaker 21: flag situation that was kind of dumb, wasn't it. I

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Speaker 21: mean it's changed the flag, I mean that was This

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Speaker 21: is much more important. But also I think it's it's

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Speaker 21: just not that radical. And as I say, the bottom

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Speaker 21: line for me is if New Zealand has become to

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Speaker 21: understand what turnity means or what the articles mean, what

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Speaker 21: a fantastic thing. And so from Parliament, to our institution,

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Speaker 21: through to our schools, our Pamariki and Makapuna, coming through

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Speaker 21: with an understanding that we never had.

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Speaker 8: What a good thing.

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Speaker 22: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you so much for your call, Robbie, oh

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Speaker 3: givting a lot of support in the text machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely great call. Right after the break, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a chat with Barry Sober. It is eleven to.

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Speaker 3: Two, Mattith, Tyler Adams taking your calls.

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Speaker 4: On eight.

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Speaker 1: And Tyler Adams afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 2: News Talks thereb so joining us now is Barry Soaper

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Speaker 2: News News Talks, theirb senior political correspondent. He's at Parliament

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Speaker 2: yet a Barrie, Good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 3: So Barry. This has been described by some as a

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Speaker 3: historic protest. Where does it sit in the history of

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Speaker 3: protest in New Zealand for you?

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, I think, will you look back to

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Speaker 19: what last big pro here on the fore court for

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Speaker 19: the four horn of Parliament with the COVID protest is

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Speaker 19: much larger than this one. That's not to take anything

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Speaker 19: away from this protest. But out the front, shoulder to shoulder,

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Speaker 19: to battle my way through to get into the beehive.

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Speaker 19: And I must say that the crowd was very polite

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Speaker 19: as I was coming through and they did make way

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Speaker 19: for me. But look, this is a protest. This is

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Speaker 19: a political protest. Let's not beat around the bush about it.

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Speaker 19: The multi party organized that they'll be looking for votes

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Speaker 19: out of this and for the sign up of membership

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Speaker 19: David Seymour's treaty principal. That's not going to do him

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Speaker 19: any harm at all, because you know, it'll be now

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Speaker 19: six months of Select Committee hearings and they have opened today,

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Speaker 19: so that'll be the next chapter the next six month,

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Speaker 19: and then the bill will die a natural death. But

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Speaker 19: by that time one can only hope had a very

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Speaker 19: good debate about it, because that's what this should be

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Speaker 19: all about.

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Speaker 3: Do you think if David Seymour would get up and

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Speaker 3: talk to this particular protest. Do you think he'd be

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Speaker 3: allowed to speak?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I think.

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Speaker 19: Look, given the mood of the protests, it seems good.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 19: I have rubbed shoulders literally with a lot of them

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Speaker 19: down on the poor cord there, and you know, I.

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Speaker 9: Think pretty ordered.

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Speaker 19: The Wellington weather has in fact held up for them,

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Speaker 19: including the wind the flags. There are many, many moldy

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Speaker 19: flags around the place and they're blowing in the breeze

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Speaker 19: and that'll make the protests even more effective looking when

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Speaker 19: these pictures go out, no doubt around the world. So look,

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Speaker 19: it's a protest that seems a good nature. I was

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Speaker 19: walking up Willis Street and along Lampton Key the Golden Mile,

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Speaker 19: and the many many people were leaving, many with children

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Speaker 19: and prans, all turned up. They made their point. I

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Speaker 19: would think give them a look at this crowd, they'll

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Speaker 19: probably at some stage pack up and go home.

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Speaker 2: There's been speculation Barry, considering the headlines and the energy

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Speaker 2: that this protest is attracting, that Christopher Luxen and the

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Speaker 2: National Party might change their tune over the next six months.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's any possibility of that?

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Speaker 19: Although I think the National Party hasn't played this one

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Speaker 19: very well at all. I've absolutely painted themselves into a corner.

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Speaker 19: But then who knows what public opinion will do to

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Speaker 19: sway people's mind, And that's what David Timour. The next

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Speaker 19: six months you'll hear a more reason debate, hopefully on

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Speaker 19: the treaty principal spill and you know who knows. But

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Speaker 19: I would say that really Chris Malukson has cooked his

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Speaker 19: goose on this one. And I saw one of the

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Speaker 19: one of the protests placards saying KKK Chris is and

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Speaker 19: it's all in case Chris's coalition KO. So that's what

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Speaker 19: Rafori waited to. I doubt it was maybe referring to

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Speaker 19: when he said that they've got a KKK swipe card

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Speaker 19: to the bee Hut.

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Speaker 3: Now have we got any idea how popular the Treaty's

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Speaker 3: principal bill is across wide in New Zealand.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know that's a good point because all the

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Speaker 19: oxygen has been taken up with the protesters themselves. So

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Speaker 19: I think it's like watching Coronation Street. A lot of

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Speaker 19: people aren't prepared to say they support it, whereas in

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Speaker 19: fact I think a large number do equally. I think

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Speaker 19: there's a large number that oppose it. But the treaty,

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Speaker 19: if you read the principles and you read the treaty itself,

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Speaker 19: which is what I've done, nothing significantly is going to change.

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Speaker 19: But anything that's perceived as an attack on the treaty

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Speaker 19: is perceived as an attack on mold you do. And

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Speaker 19: that's what worries these protesters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Berry, thank you very much for them and to

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Speaker 2: chat with us. It's up again soon.

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Speaker 9: Alright.

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Speaker 2: That is Barry Soper News talk zby Senior Political Correspondence. Right,

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Speaker 2: that is where we'll leave it for this hour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And up next we want to talk

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Speaker 3: about the Desert Road being shut for three months over

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Speaker 3: the holidays.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: number to call. Nineteen nine too, it's a text number.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Matt and Tyler Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Who's I feels like good, Rudius, just take.

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Speaker 1: Conversation talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

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Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons. You for twenty twenty four used talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 2: Good A welcome back into the show. Seven past two.

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Speaker 3: If anything comes up in Wellington that the protests then

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Speaker 3: will update you on that. But right now, Tyler's got

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Speaker 3: to be in a bonnet and his bonnet over the

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Speaker 3: Dessert Road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have a chat about the Dessert Road. So

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Speaker 2: this is State Highway One between two Rangy and wayou Dou.

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Speaker 2: The Desert Road as it's known, will be shut for

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Speaker 2: aroount two months for repairs. So the NZTA Waka kor

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Speaker 2: Tanki spokesperson said it was one of the most challenging

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Speaker 2: sections of a i quote huge maintenance program on State

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Speaker 2: Highway One. But they're going to close it down from

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Speaker 2: January the sex bang in the middle of holiday season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, we you know that that's not

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Speaker 3: quite It's just on the end of the absolute busiest

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Speaker 3: Holliway holiday season time. But a lot of people will

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Speaker 3: be wanting to travel down that road at that point.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, holidays are as important as anything and

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Speaker 3: getting in the way and frustrating people in their holidays

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Speaker 3: is not great.

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Speaker 2: They love a good road works over summer, and the

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Speaker 2: rationale for this particular section of the highway is they

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Speaker 2: need the road at a certain temperature thirteen degrees house. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so I understand that, but let's shift at to February

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Speaker 2: when most people are back at the office, because that's

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Speaker 2: a critical highway.

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Speaker 3: Can someone explain to me why we can't do three

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Speaker 3: shifts and when we're working on roads run at twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours? Yeah, why we can't do And I know

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Speaker 3: you know that they're under a junta, but famously in

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Speaker 3: Singapore when they're rebuilding Singapore, they went shifts eight hour shifts,

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Speaker 3: three in a row.

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Speaker 2: They get stuff done.

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Speaker 3: Can't we just get it done really really quickly, start

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Speaker 3: a bit later in jan and just unleashed resources to

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Speaker 3: get it done in a one week period when it's

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Speaker 3: when it's quiet for business and travel and you know,

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Speaker 3: and transport, but also doesn't mess with people's holidays. Is

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Speaker 3: there a reason someone can tell me, oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty, why can't we run three shifts on roadworks?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all four night cruise. I mean I won't

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Speaker 2: be there being part of the night crew.

873
00:42:11,293 --> 00:42:13,213
Speaker 3: All these things. I'm sure there's a reason, but it

874
00:42:13,293 --> 00:42:16,653
Speaker 3: seems to me that we take so very long to

875
00:42:16,813 --> 00:42:17,292
Speaker 3: do things.

876
00:42:17,733 --> 00:42:20,453
Speaker 2: This is going to be a massive interruption for truckies

877
00:42:20,613 --> 00:42:24,373
Speaker 2: and freight companies, so Dave Hoskin. Transport manager Daryl Hoskin

878
00:42:24,613 --> 00:42:27,333
Speaker 2: says he was surprised by the announcement of a lot

879
00:42:27,413 --> 00:42:30,453
Speaker 2: of the yards. He says, and swaps are done in towport,

880
00:42:30,653 --> 00:42:33,253
Speaker 2: so transport companies will be stuck with an hour to

881
00:42:33,293 --> 00:42:35,172
Speaker 2: an hour and a half of extra travel, he said.

882
00:42:35,173 --> 00:42:39,453
Speaker 2: Obviously that will add to the cost diesel wages and mileage.

883
00:42:40,133 --> 00:42:42,133
Speaker 2: Just on the thirteen degree celsius. How the heck do

884
00:42:42,213 --> 00:42:43,573
Speaker 2: they repair roads in Alaska?

885
00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:46,413
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know. I guess maybe they're differently

886
00:42:46,493 --> 00:42:47,413
Speaker 3: calibrated roads.

887
00:42:47,533 --> 00:42:51,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, chicks are coming through on nine two nine two off.

888
00:42:51,493 --> 00:42:54,893
Speaker 2: For beep's sake. Another road closed. Do you realize Tokuaa

889
00:42:55,213 --> 00:42:57,573
Speaker 2: to Toport is closed too. We have to go through

890
00:42:58,573 --> 00:43:00,813
Speaker 2: from muzz So when this desit.

891
00:43:00,693 --> 00:43:03,093
Speaker 3: Road is closed, Say you're coming back from holiday, how

892
00:43:03,133 --> 00:43:04,652
Speaker 3: long is that going to add? It's going to add

893
00:43:04,653 --> 00:43:06,613
Speaker 3: another two hours at least to your travel.

894
00:43:06,773 --> 00:43:09,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, selfishly, this is going to affect us, me,

895
00:43:09,533 --> 00:43:11,772
Speaker 2: may even the dog. Because we're making the trip from

896
00:43:11,893 --> 00:43:14,893
Speaker 2: here to Wellington for the ferry in one go. So

897
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:17,413
Speaker 2: ordinarily it's about seven and a half hours. Now that's

898
00:43:17,453 --> 00:43:18,573
Speaker 2: closer to nine it's.

899
00:43:18,453 --> 00:43:21,413
Speaker 3: A big trip. Yeah. Well, I wonder, I wonder if

900
00:43:21,413 --> 00:43:23,653
Speaker 3: the priority is do they go that holidays aren't a

901
00:43:24,533 --> 00:43:29,533
Speaker 3: priority for people, that the roads are only for you know,

902
00:43:30,413 --> 00:43:35,772
Speaker 3: for business, for commercial activities, whereas you know, I would

903
00:43:35,813 --> 00:43:38,693
Speaker 3: say that I would say holidays are hugely important for Kiwis.

904
00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:41,373
Speaker 3: We work very hard, we work very hard in our holidays.

905
00:43:41,453 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 3: We need to calibrate things such that it's an easy

906
00:43:46,133 --> 00:43:46,493
Speaker 3: path for.

907
00:43:46,573 --> 00:43:48,973
Speaker 2: Us to go out on our holidays, holidays over roads.

908
00:43:49,253 --> 00:43:52,252
Speaker 2: Do you know what's just occurred to me? January six, Yeah,

909
00:43:52,653 --> 00:43:54,253
Speaker 2: a lot of people will start back at work at

910
00:43:54,253 --> 00:43:58,573
Speaker 2: about the eighth. Yeah, so they're starting that road work

911
00:43:58,773 --> 00:44:00,933
Speaker 2: just as people are finishing up their holiday. There's going

912
00:44:01,013 --> 00:44:03,692
Speaker 2: to be massive traffic in the first place, and then

913
00:44:03,733 --> 00:44:06,253
Speaker 2: you run into this road closure, it's going to be chaos.

914
00:44:06,493 --> 00:44:10,053
Speaker 3: Well, I guess like January is the Monday. Oh yes,

915
00:44:10,133 --> 00:44:13,173
Speaker 3: so that's the that's the that's the Monday. So I

916
00:44:13,213 --> 00:44:16,813
Speaker 3: guess they're they're being considerate to the point where they

917
00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:20,133
Speaker 3: go well up to that Monday. Then you know from

918
00:44:20,413 --> 00:44:22,773
Speaker 3: that that Friday, the third is when people will be

919
00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:26,252
Speaker 3: absolutely rinsing it back home. But still you can't start

920
00:44:26,293 --> 00:44:27,573
Speaker 3: it on the thirteenth.

921
00:44:27,613 --> 00:44:31,173
Speaker 2: And just or the or the twentieth, Yeah, or February,

922
00:44:31,373 --> 00:44:33,693
Speaker 2: you've still got some warm months. Then, oh, eight hundred

923
00:44:33,773 --> 00:44:35,652
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. I'll tell you what, man, A lot

924
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:38,253
Speaker 2: of teachs are coming through about night cruise, so I'm

925
00:44:38,333 --> 00:44:40,652
Speaker 2: keen to know what's wrong with night cruise. I think

926
00:44:40,693 --> 00:44:43,493
Speaker 2: that's a sensible idea, genuinely.

927
00:44:43,333 --> 00:44:45,692
Speaker 3: Three three shifts, get it done as fast as you can,

928
00:44:45,773 --> 00:44:47,172
Speaker 3: and then move on to the next job. And it's

929
00:44:47,173 --> 00:44:48,853
Speaker 3: just fixed the country really really quickly.

930
00:44:49,013 --> 00:44:53,493
Speaker 2: Right, let's get into this. It is eleven past two, your.

931
00:44:53,533 --> 00:44:58,133
Speaker 1: New home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams Afternoon Call. Oh,

932
00:44:58,213 --> 00:44:59,573
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

933
00:44:59,773 --> 00:45:03,933
Speaker 2: News Talk said, good afternoon. We're talking about the Desert Road.

934
00:45:04,133 --> 00:45:06,453
Speaker 2: N ZTA is going to be closing a section of

935
00:45:06,493 --> 00:45:08,933
Speaker 2: the Desert Road from jan six, So we've asked the

936
00:45:09,013 --> 00:45:11,653
Speaker 2: question is that the wrong move? Should they delay it?

937
00:45:11,893 --> 00:45:14,652
Speaker 2: But also we want to know about night cruise. Oh,

938
00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:16,413
Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to call.

939
00:45:16,533 --> 00:45:19,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, why can't we just work twenty four hours a day, Yeah,

940
00:45:19,733 --> 00:45:22,893
Speaker 3: on the cruise and fly everyone in and get one

941
00:45:22,933 --> 00:45:25,173
Speaker 3: bit done and then fly everyone into another bit. So

942
00:45:25,293 --> 00:45:27,413
Speaker 3: you can crew it all d but I'm sure the

943
00:45:27,453 --> 00:45:29,013
Speaker 3: reason there's a reason why that doesn't work.

944
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:30,933
Speaker 2: How are you how do you feel about it?

945
00:45:31,933 --> 00:45:35,533
Speaker 23: Well, I've got another stint on it. And my dad

946
00:45:35,613 --> 00:45:38,013
Speaker 23: had a trucking business for twenty five years than he

947
00:45:38,213 --> 00:45:40,973
Speaker 23: used to. When it was the Desert Road was they

948
00:45:41,053 --> 00:45:45,053
Speaker 23: went down through National Park through Abacuni and I've done

949
00:45:45,093 --> 00:45:47,773
Speaker 23: that several times. It's actually not a lot of knowledge,

950
00:45:47,813 --> 00:45:52,093
Speaker 23: a lot of difference in distone. But also think about

951
00:45:52,173 --> 00:45:55,053
Speaker 23: Aracuni has been pretty badly hit just lately.

952
00:45:55,413 --> 00:45:57,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a great idea.

953
00:45:57,893 --> 00:45:59,893
Speaker 23: People are going a ticky tour, they'll spend a bit

954
00:45:59,933 --> 00:46:02,533
Speaker 23: of money and next thing, and it's actually it isn't

955
00:46:02,573 --> 00:46:05,333
Speaker 23: actually any further, not a lot further to go down

956
00:46:05,413 --> 00:46:07,493
Speaker 23: through there and go down the desert road.

957
00:46:08,613 --> 00:46:10,133
Speaker 3: Would that include Tikawiti as well?

958
00:46:11,013 --> 00:46:13,573
Speaker 23: Oh no, no, no gosh. Do you need to get

959
00:46:13,573 --> 00:46:17,613
Speaker 23: out of Woking and go through you go down to Reggie,

960
00:46:18,573 --> 00:46:23,133
Speaker 23: right it to Reggie, go down to National Park, through

961
00:46:23,253 --> 00:46:26,933
Speaker 23: Overcuney and back in at the other end of way. Yeah,

962
00:46:26,973 --> 00:46:30,773
Speaker 23: so you're not it's actually not actually a lot they

963
00:46:30,853 --> 00:46:33,693
Speaker 23: go inficked. A lot of truckies go that way because

964
00:46:33,813 --> 00:46:35,333
Speaker 23: of the snow and these in the winter.

965
00:46:36,133 --> 00:46:39,413
Speaker 3: Well, someone's saying here it will add an hour and

966
00:46:39,493 --> 00:46:40,973
Speaker 3: a half to two hours to the drive.

967
00:46:41,813 --> 00:46:42,493
Speaker 23: Who's saying that?

968
00:46:43,693 --> 00:46:45,733
Speaker 3: This person here in this bit of paper, where is

969
00:46:45,733 --> 00:46:46,493
Speaker 3: it saying.

970
00:46:46,293 --> 00:46:48,732
Speaker 12: The hour's sick?

971
00:46:48,813 --> 00:46:49,173
Speaker 8: Rubbish?

972
00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:51,853
Speaker 3: Well, I mean maybe at that time of year at will,

973
00:46:52,053 --> 00:46:55,853
Speaker 3: when you've when you're redirecting tens of thousands of people

974
00:46:55,933 --> 00:46:57,172
Speaker 3: coming back from holidays through there.

975
00:46:58,133 --> 00:47:00,573
Speaker 23: Yeah, but it's actually a good road. It's the better

976
00:47:00,653 --> 00:47:02,773
Speaker 23: road than the desert road, I believe it or not.

977
00:47:03,533 --> 00:47:05,853
Speaker 23: So why why why do you think all the truckies

978
00:47:05,933 --> 00:47:07,613
Speaker 23: go through there? Whin it's winter, A lot of them

979
00:47:07,693 --> 00:47:09,373
Speaker 23: come through that and go there because.

980
00:47:10,133 --> 00:47:13,292
Speaker 2: Yeah, well just on that it was so the person

981
00:47:13,373 --> 00:47:15,813
Speaker 2: that said that, his name's Darryl Hoskin and he is

982
00:47:15,933 --> 00:47:18,493
Speaker 2: the manager of Dave Hoskin Transport, so he is a

983
00:47:18,533 --> 00:47:21,013
Speaker 2: truckie or runs trucking company.

984
00:47:21,613 --> 00:47:26,773
Speaker 23: He healed them. And you know what, I've driven up

985
00:47:26,893 --> 00:47:29,333
Speaker 23: many a time as part of my eria down there,

986
00:47:29,373 --> 00:47:30,893
Speaker 23: and it's actually not a lot further.

987
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,133
Speaker 3: So if you had the choice, would you take that

988
00:47:33,813 --> 00:47:35,053
Speaker 3: route instead of the desert road?

989
00:47:35,893 --> 00:47:36,053
Speaker 9: Yeah?

990
00:47:36,133 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 3: Quite up, But I don't right, well I do I

991
00:47:39,653 --> 00:47:43,013
Speaker 3: do like your idea of channeling some people through to

992
00:47:43,213 --> 00:47:46,853
Speaker 3: put some economic activity into or cooney because they are

993
00:47:46,893 --> 00:47:48,133
Speaker 3: having a rough time around there.

994
00:47:48,293 --> 00:47:48,453
Speaker 22: I do.

995
00:47:48,613 --> 00:47:49,173
Speaker 24: I do like that.

996
00:47:49,493 --> 00:47:51,893
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's like Cafe three.

997
00:47:51,933 --> 00:47:55,053
Speaker 23: These people can stop off and go through a Trent

998
00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:57,413
Speaker 23: three the thing if they want go and here coming

999
00:47:57,493 --> 00:47:58,973
Speaker 23: to eat and keep that place going.

1000
00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:01,093
Speaker 2: It's a great place. So I lived there for a season.

1001
00:48:01,133 --> 00:48:03,933
Speaker 2: I worked up Mount up Who and I'm sure it's

1002
00:48:04,053 --> 00:48:06,172
Speaker 2: changed now, but maybe it's done me a favor because

1003
00:48:06,173 --> 00:48:08,013
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to go through it when I

1004
00:48:08,053 --> 00:48:08,853
Speaker 2: was up here.

1005
00:48:09,013 --> 00:48:10,733
Speaker 4: So absolutely, but.

1006
00:48:11,333 --> 00:48:14,133
Speaker 23: It's not actually lock there. It's to night drive and

1007
00:48:14,413 --> 00:48:16,853
Speaker 23: it can have a break, stop off and have a

1008
00:48:16,893 --> 00:48:18,013
Speaker 23: coffee and carry on.

1009
00:48:18,453 --> 00:48:21,093
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, thanks for that deep thanks for

1010
00:48:22,133 --> 00:48:25,053
Speaker 3: cooling down the anger studio here.

1011
00:48:25,173 --> 00:48:27,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. Great. How are you mate?

1012
00:48:28,293 --> 00:48:28,493
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1013
00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:28,893
Speaker 3: Good mate?

1014
00:48:28,933 --> 00:48:29,133
Speaker 9: How are you?

1015
00:48:29,333 --> 00:48:29,533
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1016
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:29,732
Speaker 5: Good?

1017
00:48:29,893 --> 00:48:31,373
Speaker 3: You want to talk about working overnight?

1018
00:48:32,693 --> 00:48:37,213
Speaker 25: Yeah, I'm I don't know whether I'm just being horrible

1019
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:41,493
Speaker 25: or what, but I think that the roading companies now

1020
00:48:41,533 --> 00:48:45,453
Speaker 25: are sort of privatized, and I just wonder whether there's

1021
00:48:45,493 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 25: a bit of I don't want to pay the extra

1022
00:48:48,013 --> 00:48:49,493
Speaker 25: money that they're going to have to pay those guys

1023
00:48:49,533 --> 00:48:52,893
Speaker 25: to work overnight, right, whether their costs, whether their costs

1024
00:48:52,973 --> 00:48:55,733
Speaker 25: as a company go up in the way of wages

1025
00:48:55,773 --> 00:48:59,853
Speaker 25: and stuff, which I imagine they would, and they don't

1026
00:48:59,893 --> 00:49:01,613
Speaker 25: want to do that, so they just take the long

1027
00:49:01,733 --> 00:49:04,973
Speaker 25: route with everybody working the straight shifts on the daytime.

1028
00:49:05,573 --> 00:49:08,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, because in terms of budgets, you'd think that even

1029
00:49:08,413 --> 00:49:11,533
Speaker 3: if there was an expense for having people working overnights,

1030
00:49:11,533 --> 00:49:15,693
Speaker 3: getting things done quicker overall, in terms of your wider

1031
00:49:16,533 --> 00:49:20,373
Speaker 3: infrastructure and the wider administrations for it, getting it just

1032
00:49:20,493 --> 00:49:21,613
Speaker 3: done would be the way to go.

1033
00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:25,093
Speaker 25: That's that's the common sense for out. But it's not

1034
00:49:25,173 --> 00:49:29,573
Speaker 25: about saving money for those big guys. It's about saving money.

1035
00:49:30,053 --> 00:49:31,493
Speaker 25: I mean, you've got to pay the CEO at the

1036
00:49:31,573 --> 00:49:31,973
Speaker 25: end of the year.

1037
00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:35,733
Speaker 2: Made I mean, yeah, yeah, just on the way that

1038
00:49:35,813 --> 00:49:36,453
Speaker 2: they're operating.

1039
00:49:36,853 --> 00:49:39,933
Speaker 25: I'm just yeah, yeah, But that was just my thought.

1040
00:49:40,013 --> 00:49:41,772
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, enough to break. Thanks for that, Craig.

1041
00:49:42,413 --> 00:49:44,772
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1042
00:49:44,813 --> 00:49:47,933
Speaker 2: to call. We'll pick this back up shortly. Oh, someone's

1043
00:49:48,013 --> 00:49:51,453
Speaker 2: done some calculations on what the distance is, so too

1044
00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:54,733
Speaker 2: Dangy to yu Ku via Desit road is sixty two

1045
00:49:54,853 --> 00:49:58,293
Speaker 2: point four k forty six minutes via Oakuni one hundred

1046
00:49:58,333 --> 00:50:01,292
Speaker 2: and twelve k one hour and nineteen minutes an extra

1047
00:50:01,413 --> 00:50:02,053
Speaker 2: half hour or so.

1048
00:50:02,773 --> 00:50:05,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean you're trying to put a whole

1049
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:10,133
Speaker 3: lot of traffic through a smaller funnel. Yeah, so I

1050
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:12,692
Speaker 3: imagine they'll be delays added to that. On jan six

1051
00:50:12,893 --> 00:50:15,693
Speaker 3: good point, right, give us a buzz. It is nineteen

1052
00:50:15,733 --> 00:50:16,172
Speaker 3: past two.

1053
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:24,613
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1054
00:50:24,693 --> 00:50:26,493
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk zb.

1055
00:50:26,533 --> 00:50:31,692
Speaker 3: SO Waka Kotahi NZTR closing the Desert Road for two

1056
00:50:31,813 --> 00:50:34,653
Speaker 3: months from January sixth, and I was saying, would it

1057
00:50:34,693 --> 00:50:36,413
Speaker 3: kill them to start that a week or two later

1058
00:50:36,653 --> 00:50:40,373
Speaker 3: so we didn't ruin people's drive home. There's been some

1059
00:50:40,453 --> 00:50:43,053
Speaker 3: suggestion that the other route up through National Park is

1060
00:50:43,533 --> 00:50:45,373
Speaker 3: sweet ass, and there's a lot of people saying no,

1061
00:50:45,493 --> 00:50:48,933
Speaker 3: it'll be horrible. And we're also discussing the other question

1062
00:50:49,133 --> 00:50:52,533
Speaker 3: is why can't we work cruise twenty four hours a

1063
00:50:52,613 --> 00:50:54,373
Speaker 3: day and three shifts and just get things done a

1064
00:50:54,413 --> 00:50:56,013
Speaker 3: lot quicker so they don't have to close the road

1065
00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:56,573
Speaker 3: for two months.

1066
00:50:56,693 --> 00:50:59,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, Murray, what's your take on the roadworks?

1067
00:51:01,373 --> 00:51:06,333
Speaker 9: These contract infirms I'm not telling you everything about what's

1068
00:51:06,413 --> 00:51:10,493
Speaker 9: going on with Yeah, they'll be tar ceiling and things

1069
00:51:10,613 --> 00:51:14,853
Speaker 9: like that. Remember the old TI trucks used to see

1070
00:51:14,933 --> 00:51:24,973
Speaker 9: them coming out there, see them coming along with all

1071
00:51:25,013 --> 00:51:29,613
Speaker 9: of steam coming out with top. Yeah, well, I'd like

1072
00:51:29,773 --> 00:51:36,653
Speaker 9: to know the difference in temperature between this emotion slot

1073
00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:39,733
Speaker 9: in the car, right.

1074
00:51:39,613 --> 00:51:41,373
Speaker 3: Because they're saying that the reason why they have to

1075
00:51:41,453 --> 00:51:44,533
Speaker 3: do it at that time of year is because they

1076
00:51:44,613 --> 00:51:48,133
Speaker 3: need it to be thirteen degrees at all times or

1077
00:51:48,133 --> 00:51:49,133
Speaker 3: rest it doesn't work.

1078
00:51:50,893 --> 00:51:57,773
Speaker 9: Yeah, but the old stuff, we're so hot that they

1079
00:51:57,853 --> 00:51:59,933
Speaker 9: didn't move at the temperature of the road too much.

1080
00:52:00,413 --> 00:52:00,573
Speaker 15: Right.

1081
00:52:00,773 --> 00:52:02,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not too sure.

1082
00:52:02,293 --> 00:52:04,533
Speaker 9: Of untrue somewhere.

1083
00:52:04,813 --> 00:52:06,853
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean I'm not sure. I mean,

1084
00:52:06,853 --> 00:52:08,213
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's going to be steaming at

1085
00:52:08,213 --> 00:52:12,172
Speaker 3: the back of their machinery when they're closing the desert road.

1086
00:52:12,973 --> 00:52:14,893
Speaker 3: But I definitely do remember it's steaming out the back

1087
00:52:14,973 --> 00:52:17,093
Speaker 3: of a bunch of trucks when I was a kid.

1088
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:20,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sparrow, what do you reckon on this closure?

1089
00:52:21,173 --> 00:52:23,933
Speaker 9: Good boys, that you're looking good, Tyler, you could have

1090
00:52:23,973 --> 00:52:29,413
Speaker 9: made more of an effort, but that's right. So Tyler,

1091
00:52:29,493 --> 00:52:31,413
Speaker 9: have you actually have a driven National Park.

1092
00:52:31,733 --> 00:52:34,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, I live there, Sparrow. I work just season up

1093
00:52:34,533 --> 00:52:35,973
Speaker 2: at Yeah.

1094
00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:38,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, beautiful and people are on holiday. They just need

1095
00:52:38,933 --> 00:52:41,133
Speaker 9: to take it chill drive down there.

1096
00:52:41,213 --> 00:52:41,413
Speaker 12: Yep.

1097
00:52:41,493 --> 00:52:43,893
Speaker 9: It might take an extra half an hour forty five minutes,

1098
00:52:43,933 --> 00:52:47,093
Speaker 9: but how long would they be stuck waiting for roadworks,

1099
00:52:47,453 --> 00:52:51,453
Speaker 9: getting their calves covered in tar, kids getting hot and

1100
00:52:51,533 --> 00:52:54,853
Speaker 9: sweaty in the back seat. It's a it's a better

1101
00:52:54,973 --> 00:52:57,212
Speaker 9: idea to just shut the road, get it done.

1102
00:52:57,813 --> 00:53:00,933
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, someone there quite a few people texting through

1103
00:53:01,013 --> 00:53:02,773
Speaker 3: saying that the road the other way is crap and

1104
00:53:03,493 --> 00:53:05,813
Speaker 3: there's no passing lanes at all, so there'll be a

1105
00:53:05,893 --> 00:53:06,653
Speaker 3: huge bottleneck.

1106
00:53:07,733 --> 00:53:10,252
Speaker 9: Let just take time. Everyone's in too much of a rush.

1107
00:53:11,693 --> 00:53:13,653
Speaker 3: When don't don't you want to take your time and

1108
00:53:13,693 --> 00:53:16,613
Speaker 3: spend your time with the family back at where you

1109
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:19,853
Speaker 3: were on holiday rather than sitting in the car in

1110
00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:22,013
Speaker 3: the heat with your kids screaming and yelling at you

1111
00:53:22,093 --> 00:53:22,853
Speaker 3: from the pecksie.

1112
00:53:24,013 --> 00:53:25,772
Speaker 9: Well, you see, if you take National Park you won't.

1113
00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:29,212
Speaker 9: But and to be fair, it would be quite nice

1114
00:53:29,293 --> 00:53:31,013
Speaker 9: just to spend time driving, really.

1115
00:53:33,653 --> 00:53:35,773
Speaker 2: Spare When was the last time you're onoah cooney? What's

1116
00:53:35,813 --> 00:53:37,213
Speaker 2: it like now? Is it's I mean it's had some

1117
00:53:37,333 --> 00:53:37,813
Speaker 2: hard years.

1118
00:53:39,013 --> 00:53:39,212
Speaker 26: Yeah.

1119
00:53:39,373 --> 00:53:43,013
Speaker 9: Look it's looking a bit sad. Really it needs some

1120
00:53:43,173 --> 00:53:46,772
Speaker 9: life bottom to it, and I do believe that. Yeah,

1121
00:53:46,893 --> 00:53:48,693
Speaker 9: this will actually give them a bit of a boost.

1122
00:53:48,773 --> 00:53:51,093
Speaker 9: You know, it'll get businesses up. And I mean you've

1123
00:53:51,133 --> 00:53:54,933
Speaker 9: got that greater clear shop. Hopefully they'll open that up.

1124
00:53:55,453 --> 00:53:56,933
Speaker 9: There's going to be a whole heap of traffic because

1125
00:53:56,973 --> 00:54:00,253
Speaker 9: normally it's only during the during the summer months of

1126
00:54:00,493 --> 00:54:02,893
Speaker 9: open massive clears.

1127
00:54:03,053 --> 00:54:06,293
Speaker 2: Oh though, God, you're selling it.

1128
00:54:06,533 --> 00:54:09,893
Speaker 3: There's there's also that great park for the kids. I'm

1129
00:54:09,933 --> 00:54:11,573
Speaker 3: trying to remember the details of it, but I've spent

1130
00:54:11,653 --> 00:54:13,253
Speaker 3: some time in it. I think it's near the Carrot.

1131
00:54:13,533 --> 00:54:15,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do some good carrots. Does the powder Horn

1132
00:54:15,573 --> 00:54:17,053
Speaker 2: opens out hoping during summer?

1133
00:54:18,413 --> 00:54:19,573
Speaker 8: I think so.

1134
00:54:20,213 --> 00:54:22,613
Speaker 9: Look, they'd be mad if these bother us didn't open,

1135
00:54:22,653 --> 00:54:25,733
Speaker 9: if they knew this was happening. It'll be a great

1136
00:54:25,813 --> 00:54:27,093
Speaker 9: cash injection for them.

1137
00:54:27,773 --> 00:54:30,013
Speaker 3: Oh boy, the powder Horn is such a cool place

1138
00:54:30,093 --> 00:54:32,053
Speaker 3: to stay. I stayed there a couple of years ago.

1139
00:54:32,253 --> 00:54:34,893
Speaker 3: And on the bottom level you've got that giant sparple.

1140
00:54:35,013 --> 00:54:36,652
Speaker 2: Yes, that is so many good days.

1141
00:54:36,733 --> 00:54:38,933
Speaker 3: What is it called the grotto or is it called

1142
00:54:38,973 --> 00:54:40,613
Speaker 3: the something that there's a word for it down in

1143
00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:44,053
Speaker 3: the air. About that that is that is very very

1144
00:54:44,173 --> 00:54:46,173
Speaker 3: very cool. It's very twin peaks. For people that are

1145
00:54:46,453 --> 00:54:49,413
Speaker 3: fans of that David Lynch show from the nineties.

1146
00:54:49,573 --> 00:54:52,293
Speaker 2: I spent many hours in that grotto. Bran, how are

1147
00:54:52,333 --> 00:54:53,732
Speaker 2: you good?

1148
00:54:53,813 --> 00:54:54,253
Speaker 7: Yourself?

1149
00:54:54,573 --> 00:54:54,973
Speaker 2: Very good?

1150
00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:58,253
Speaker 7: A lot of the guys have taken the sundery of

1151
00:54:58,373 --> 00:55:01,773
Speaker 7: the the Dominiqu's truck driver and we've always used the

1152
00:55:01,853 --> 00:55:03,652
Speaker 7: Teminui way because it's always quicker.

1153
00:55:05,413 --> 00:55:06,533
Speaker 3: It was always quick going down.

1154
00:55:07,173 --> 00:55:09,133
Speaker 7: There was always quicker to get in going down through

1155
00:55:09,453 --> 00:55:10,692
Speaker 7: Telper Way, so the one.

1156
00:55:12,493 --> 00:55:14,253
Speaker 3: So you don't think there's any problem at all closing

1157
00:55:14,293 --> 00:55:17,053
Speaker 3: it on jen Sex. You think that everyone will have

1158
00:55:17,093 --> 00:55:18,172
Speaker 3: a bit of time going the other way.

1159
00:55:19,173 --> 00:55:21,573
Speaker 7: Well, I mean they're going to go that way anyway,

1160
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:24,173
Speaker 7: so they're going to turn it off at you're going

1161
00:55:24,213 --> 00:55:27,333
Speaker 7: to go down, you'll turn right at the National Park,

1162
00:55:27,773 --> 00:55:29,533
Speaker 7: pass the shadow and come back down over the top

1163
00:55:29,533 --> 00:55:32,453
Speaker 7: of touring. If you want to go through Capo, Yeah.

1164
00:55:32,533 --> 00:55:35,573
Speaker 2: Not fast if you get to Wellington though, is it yep?

1165
00:55:35,933 --> 00:55:38,573
Speaker 7: Is that there was There's two of us left and

1166
00:55:38,613 --> 00:55:40,212
Speaker 7: I went down the State of one and he went

1167
00:55:40,253 --> 00:55:45,333
Speaker 7: down three and four and and he was basically in

1168
00:55:45,373 --> 00:55:47,253
Speaker 7: there in front of me, and I had a horstair

1169
00:55:47,333 --> 00:55:51,053
Speaker 7: truck and what he did, yeah, and he was he

1170
00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:54,133
Speaker 7: was away in front of me and we hit the

1171
00:55:54,133 --> 00:55:56,853
Speaker 7: bottom of the bomb base at the same time. I

1172
00:55:56,973 --> 00:56:02,533
Speaker 7: went to and he went one. And we're carrying the

1173
00:56:02,573 --> 00:56:02,973
Speaker 7: same way.

1174
00:56:03,133 --> 00:56:04,772
Speaker 16: So yeah, oh well, well.

1175
00:56:04,693 --> 00:56:06,413
Speaker 2: There you go. I don't know, I'm going to look

1176
00:56:06,453 --> 00:56:08,573
Speaker 2: that up on Google Map, but i'll tell you for

1177
00:56:08,613 --> 00:56:13,172
Speaker 2: a brim quick text here, Hi, just regarding the desert road,

1178
00:56:13,173 --> 00:56:15,493
Speaker 2: they're saying two months, but you know it's probably going

1179
00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:17,853
Speaker 2: to be a lot longer the way things get done

1180
00:56:17,893 --> 00:56:20,013
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and then they'll be there'll be a

1181
00:56:20,053 --> 00:56:22,813
Speaker 2: weather event and rain, so i'd say four months. How

1182
00:56:22,853 --> 00:56:23,773
Speaker 2: will they go down the country?

1183
00:56:23,973 --> 00:56:25,893
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say, because another text here

1184
00:56:25,893 --> 00:56:28,053
Speaker 3: has said read the article properly. They have to keep

1185
00:56:28,093 --> 00:56:29,413
Speaker 3: it at thirteen degrees, so it needs to be in

1186
00:56:29,453 --> 00:56:31,933
Speaker 3: the high of summer. And I understand that. I understand

1187
00:56:31,973 --> 00:56:34,573
Speaker 3: the thirteen degrees thing, but I want to know why

1188
00:56:34,733 --> 00:56:38,652
Speaker 3: we can't run twenty four hour shifts and get it done.

1189
00:56:38,733 --> 00:56:41,253
Speaker 3: Does it get Will the road surface get below thirteen

1190
00:56:41,253 --> 00:56:45,533
Speaker 3: degrees at night on the desert road in January. In February,

1191
00:56:45,733 --> 00:56:48,172
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think so. Yeah, but I could

1192
00:56:48,253 --> 00:56:50,773
Speaker 3: be wrong. But just in general, I want to know

1193
00:56:50,853 --> 00:56:53,893
Speaker 3: why you can't run three shifts and run twenty four

1194
00:56:53,933 --> 00:56:55,013
Speaker 3: hours Singapore styles.

1195
00:56:55,173 --> 00:56:57,133
Speaker 2: If you're on a road crew, give us a buzz i.

1196
00:56:57,213 --> 00:56:59,292
Speaker 2: Wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1197
00:56:59,293 --> 00:57:01,213
Speaker 2: to call. It is twenty eight pass two.

1198
00:57:04,293 --> 00:57:07,692
Speaker 13: News talk sai'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

1199
00:57:07,813 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. Parliament's lawn is overflowing

1200
00:57:11,653 --> 00:57:14,693
Speaker 13: with people with more than thirty five thousand joining the

1201
00:57:14,813 --> 00:57:19,173
Speaker 13: National Heikoi protesting the Treaty Principal's Bill to party Madi

1202
00:57:19,293 --> 00:57:23,053
Speaker 13: MP Hano Rafiti Maypi. Clark has addressed the crowd the

1203
00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:26,093
Speaker 13: back of her suspension from Parliament. It was after she

1204
00:57:26,213 --> 00:57:28,853
Speaker 13: led a hakker in Parliament last week as the bill

1205
00:57:28,933 --> 00:57:30,133
Speaker 13: passed its first reading.

1206
00:57:30,333 --> 00:57:34,573
Speaker 3: The world of the watching um Selu Marlin.

1207
00:57:35,213 --> 00:57:39,933
Speaker 9: Whatever we do next, all Indians people are relying on us.

1208
00:57:40,653 --> 00:57:44,053
Speaker 13: Meanwhile, the Speaker's given MPs involved in last week's harker

1209
00:57:44,133 --> 00:57:47,973
Speaker 13: during the Treaty Principle's reading until Thursday to plead their

1210
00:57:48,053 --> 00:57:52,973
Speaker 13: case over allegedly breaching Parliament's rules. Jerry Brownley's confirmed several

1211
00:57:53,053 --> 00:57:56,973
Speaker 13: privileges complaints have been brought against MPs he didn't name.

1212
00:57:58,093 --> 00:58:01,253
Speaker 13: Antivak's campaigner, Liz Gungn has failed to get her conviction

1213
00:58:01,413 --> 00:58:04,693
Speaker 13: thrown out for assaulting an Auckland Airport worker who tried

1214
00:58:04,773 --> 00:58:08,533
Speaker 13: to stop her filming. The Department of Conservations aware of

1215
00:58:08,573 --> 00:58:11,613
Speaker 13: a shark attack near the Chatam Islands this morning. Saint

1216
00:58:11,653 --> 00:58:14,733
Speaker 13: John says it responded just after eleven am. It's believed

1217
00:58:14,893 --> 00:58:19,853
Speaker 13: there are injuries. Napier Port says, earnings rebound. We'll continue

1218
00:58:19,893 --> 00:58:23,493
Speaker 13: in twenty twenty five. Find out more at enzid Herald Premium.

1219
00:58:23,813 --> 00:58:25,933
Speaker 13: Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

1220
00:58:25,613 --> 00:58:27,173
Speaker 2: Twenty eight to three. Thank you railling.

1221
00:58:27,253 --> 00:58:29,093
Speaker 3: So the number is more than thirty five thousand for

1222
00:58:29,213 --> 00:58:32,813
Speaker 3: the protests at Parliament today? How do they get that number?

1223
00:58:32,893 --> 00:58:33,693
Speaker 2: That's some quick counting.

1224
00:58:33,733 --> 00:58:35,973
Speaker 3: Where does that number come from? Is that the official number?

1225
00:58:36,453 --> 00:58:38,453
Speaker 3: I'm seeing it around here. Someone here is on saying

1226
00:58:38,493 --> 00:58:42,013
Speaker 3: seventy thousand, someone on line saying fifteen thousand here. So

1227
00:58:42,453 --> 00:58:46,653
Speaker 3: we just don't have we need official department of counting

1228
00:58:46,733 --> 00:58:47,933
Speaker 3: numbers of people in places.

1229
00:58:48,093 --> 00:58:50,013
Speaker 2: That's our homework tonight We're going to grab a picture

1230
00:58:50,013 --> 00:58:52,733
Speaker 2: of that drone footage and we're going to painstakingly count

1231
00:58:52,973 --> 00:58:54,653
Speaker 2: every one of those protests and dogs.

1232
00:58:54,773 --> 00:58:58,733
Speaker 3: Let's start a new ministry of counting, put redirect billion

1233
00:58:58,773 --> 00:59:01,053
Speaker 3: dollars towards it and so we can get some accurate numbers.

1234
00:59:01,133 --> 00:59:03,813
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll give you an answer on that tomorrow, rest assured. Right,

1235
00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:07,013
Speaker 2: going back to the Desert Road closure from June the

1236
00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:09,933
Speaker 2: sixth to Mark the sixth, and a lot of people

1237
00:59:09,973 --> 00:59:12,373
Speaker 2: are talking about this alternative road. But we've also asked

1238
00:59:12,413 --> 00:59:14,773
Speaker 2: the question, why don't we have night crews in New

1239
00:59:14,853 --> 00:59:18,493
Speaker 2: Zealand like they do in Singapore. Singaporeans get stuff done.

1240
00:59:18,573 --> 00:59:21,493
Speaker 2: This text is it can be done at night, even

1241
00:59:21,573 --> 00:59:23,653
Speaker 2: if they only did the road prep at night and

1242
00:59:23,733 --> 00:59:27,413
Speaker 2: sealed during the day. Downtown Graymouth has been resealed and

1243
00:59:27,493 --> 00:59:29,253
Speaker 2: they've been working nights only, so go figure.

1244
00:59:29,573 --> 00:59:36,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so Greytown's Greymouth's probably got slightly less. Yeah, so,

1245
00:59:36,613 --> 00:59:38,653
Speaker 3: I mean it would be totally different situation there in

1246
00:59:38,773 --> 00:59:41,853
Speaker 3: terms of what temperature they need to work out, right, Yeah,

1247
00:59:42,013 --> 00:59:44,093
Speaker 3: So apparently in this one it needs to be thirteen

1248
00:59:44,133 --> 00:59:46,533
Speaker 3: degrees the whole time. No lower than thirteen degrees the

1249
00:59:46,573 --> 00:59:47,293
Speaker 3: whole time they're doing it.

1250
00:59:47,453 --> 00:59:50,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, a minimum ground temperature of thirteen degrees celsius to

1251
00:59:50,453 --> 00:59:51,733
Speaker 2: carry out pavement works.

1252
00:59:52,173 --> 00:59:54,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and so that's why it has to be

1253
00:59:54,653 --> 00:59:55,813
Speaker 3: done right in the middle of the holidays.

1254
00:59:55,893 --> 00:59:58,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Malcolm, how are you hello? How are you going?

1255
00:59:58,413 --> 00:59:58,973
Speaker 12: Good?

1256
01:00:00,093 --> 01:00:00,293
Speaker 18: Yep?

1257
01:00:00,413 --> 01:00:04,053
Speaker 26: Definitely the Rakuni Way is a good option. We traveled

1258
01:00:04,613 --> 01:00:07,453
Speaker 26: up that way eight times a year and a couple

1259
01:00:07,493 --> 01:00:10,813
Speaker 26: of times they'll come back for okuney and it's definitely

1260
01:00:10,813 --> 01:00:13,213
Speaker 26: a good spot. There was a bloody a very good

1261
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:15,613
Speaker 26: fish and chip shop in there as well, which was

1262
01:00:16,173 --> 01:00:18,493
Speaker 26: quite good. We went there a month or so ago.

1263
01:00:18,573 --> 01:00:23,173
Speaker 3: They're going to have a good summer, a very good Yeah.

1264
01:00:23,653 --> 01:00:25,373
Speaker 27: And the other thing with the.

1265
01:00:27,373 --> 01:00:29,813
Speaker 26: Night shift thing, I don't I'm not a fan of

1266
01:00:29,933 --> 01:00:32,613
Speaker 26: working not that I've have done it, but working at night,

1267
01:00:32,653 --> 01:00:36,413
Speaker 26: I think the efficiency must really drop down. But in

1268
01:00:36,573 --> 01:00:39,053
Speaker 26: saying that, if you're working on the roads, you've got

1269
01:00:39,133 --> 01:00:41,573
Speaker 26: from five o'clock in the morning till probably ten o'clock

1270
01:00:41,613 --> 01:00:44,493
Speaker 26: at night, where it's pretty much you can see bearing

1271
01:00:44,573 --> 01:00:46,373
Speaker 26: them on. You know that the guys would be off

1272
01:00:46,493 --> 01:00:49,213
Speaker 26: site nine o'clock, back to their workplace and back home.

1273
01:00:49,933 --> 01:00:51,893
Speaker 26: They stopped working on the road at say nine o'clock.

1274
01:00:51,973 --> 01:00:55,693
Speaker 26: That's all daylight hours, so definitely two shifts you can

1275
01:00:56,213 --> 01:00:56,693
Speaker 26: do today.

1276
01:00:57,693 --> 01:01:00,533
Speaker 3: Yeah. I used to work as a shift worker overnight

1277
01:01:00,813 --> 01:01:03,573
Speaker 3: and I'd get a lot of work done. But boy boy,

1278
01:01:03,693 --> 01:01:06,093
Speaker 3: it really really messes with your life. Yeah, it does

1279
01:01:06,533 --> 01:01:09,453
Speaker 3: become you become a different human being from from the

1280
01:01:09,533 --> 01:01:10,973
Speaker 3: rest of the human beings in the world. But there's

1281
01:01:10,973 --> 01:01:13,093
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there that do do shift

1282
01:01:13,133 --> 01:01:14,013
Speaker 3: work and work overnight.

1283
01:01:14,213 --> 01:01:17,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, Malcolm, thank you very much. Andrew, you've got a

1284
01:01:17,053 --> 01:01:18,093
Speaker 2: theory on the road closure.

1285
01:01:19,053 --> 01:01:20,653
Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, guys, how are you doing all right?

1286
01:01:20,773 --> 01:01:21,293
Speaker 18: You're good.

1287
01:01:22,133 --> 01:01:23,813
Speaker 11: I think I think a lot of it is about

1288
01:01:23,853 --> 01:01:25,973
Speaker 11: the cost of traffic management these days, and the cost

1289
01:01:26,013 --> 01:01:28,733
Speaker 11: of moving road cones around, and because you know, we've

1290
01:01:28,733 --> 01:01:31,733
Speaker 11: all gone road cone crazy in the country and the

1291
01:01:31,893 --> 01:01:34,293
Speaker 11: tri the tripping over the trucks that delivered the road

1292
01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:37,093
Speaker 11: cones half the time. So yeah, I think that's my

1293
01:01:37,173 --> 01:01:40,813
Speaker 11: it's my theory on it, of course totally substantiated. But

1294
01:01:41,293 --> 01:01:42,973
Speaker 11: on the other side of it, oh, Akoon's going to

1295
01:01:43,013 --> 01:01:44,533
Speaker 11: go off as and it's going to be like radiator

1296
01:01:44,573 --> 01:01:45,933
Speaker 11: springs in the cars movement.

1297
01:01:46,613 --> 01:01:49,693
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that very thing that's radiator springs

1298
01:01:50,573 --> 01:01:52,933
Speaker 3: in that sad moment when they change the change the

1299
01:01:53,013 --> 01:01:55,493
Speaker 3: motorway and it gets all quiet. So it's going to

1300
01:01:55,493 --> 01:01:57,333
Speaker 3: be it's going to be like the reverse Radiator Spring.

1301
01:01:58,253 --> 01:01:58,893
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so.

1302
01:01:59,013 --> 01:02:00,493
Speaker 11: I think so. And also, you know, they've got a

1303
01:02:00,533 --> 01:02:03,373
Speaker 11: wonderful children's playground there. Community there have built to a

1304
01:02:03,453 --> 01:02:06,173
Speaker 11: fabulous playground for the kids, So I mean it's even

1305
01:02:06,173 --> 01:02:08,013
Speaker 11: fun for the adults as well. That's beautiful and there

1306
01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:10,013
Speaker 11: actually you stopped there, Yeah.

1307
01:02:09,813 --> 01:02:12,133
Speaker 3: Can you describe that playground because I remember visiting that

1308
01:02:12,133 --> 01:02:13,613
Speaker 3: playground run so and I bought it up before and

1309
01:02:13,693 --> 01:02:15,893
Speaker 3: I said, they've got a great playground there, but then

1310
01:02:15,893 --> 01:02:20,013
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember any details of the playground. That's what's

1311
01:02:20,053 --> 01:02:22,653
Speaker 3: specifically great about it is a bunch of vegetable type

1312
01:02:23,853 --> 01:02:24,853
Speaker 3: themed playground.

1313
01:02:24,933 --> 01:02:25,373
Speaker 18: Is that what it is?

1314
01:02:26,093 --> 01:02:28,413
Speaker 11: Yeah, it is, it is, and it's got loads of

1315
01:02:28,493 --> 01:02:30,893
Speaker 11: interesting features to it that is a lot of fun

1316
01:02:30,973 --> 01:02:33,413
Speaker 11: for the kids and adults alike as well, so you know,

1317
01:02:33,573 --> 01:02:37,773
Speaker 11: and it follows this lovely little stream little spring. Yeah,

1318
01:02:37,973 --> 01:02:42,853
Speaker 11: that's right, Radiator Spring Stream and yeah, but hey, we're

1319
01:02:42,853 --> 01:02:45,533
Speaker 11: forgetting about you know. The highlight of that road trip

1320
01:02:45,693 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 11: is hor Pito Motors or Smash Palace where all the

1321
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:50,293
Speaker 11: old cars are stored.

1322
01:02:50,573 --> 01:02:53,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's on that road.

1323
01:02:53,733 --> 01:02:56,613
Speaker 11: That is that's if it's open. Yeah, that is.

1324
01:02:56,893 --> 01:02:59,733
Speaker 3: That is so incredibly cool that that spot when you

1325
01:02:59,813 --> 01:03:02,013
Speaker 3: go around and you see the times of the cars,

1326
01:03:02,413 --> 01:03:04,413
Speaker 3: so the cars that have been done by and it's

1327
01:03:04,493 --> 01:03:06,893
Speaker 3: it's incredible. Also great movie Smith's Palace.

1328
01:03:07,573 --> 01:03:08,013
Speaker 18: Yeah it is.

1329
01:03:08,093 --> 01:03:10,693
Speaker 11: And that whole area, that whole area of air is

1330
01:03:10,733 --> 01:03:13,013
Speaker 11: pretty cool. So you just take your time and enjoy

1331
01:03:13,093 --> 01:03:15,573
Speaker 11: your travel through there. If you're going that way. It's

1332
01:03:15,613 --> 01:03:17,093
Speaker 11: not much, like I said, it's not much further than

1333
01:03:17,133 --> 01:03:18,173
Speaker 11: going down the desert road.

1334
01:03:18,533 --> 01:03:22,493
Speaker 3: To be fair about the sort of passing lane situation,

1335
01:03:22,653 --> 01:03:24,453
Speaker 3: do you think it will get clogged when they shove

1336
01:03:24,533 --> 01:03:25,973
Speaker 3: everyone through there in the middle of the holidays.

1337
01:03:27,213 --> 01:03:29,533
Speaker 11: I'm sure everyone will get stuck behind the trucks, no

1338
01:03:29,933 --> 01:03:33,133
Speaker 11: doubt about that. So yeah, just you just have to

1339
01:03:33,173 --> 01:03:35,933
Speaker 11: be patient really and pick your times to overtake if

1340
01:03:35,933 --> 01:03:37,693
Speaker 11: you're going to because you're probably not going to bother

1341
01:03:37,813 --> 01:03:39,933
Speaker 11: to be fair, because it might be too dangerous with

1342
01:03:40,093 --> 01:03:41,733
Speaker 11: all the traffic on it, because it's going to be

1343
01:03:41,893 --> 01:03:44,973
Speaker 11: it's going to be busy. Yeah, so yeah, just take

1344
01:03:45,013 --> 01:03:48,053
Speaker 11: your time really, and about sitting there too quickly.

1345
01:03:48,173 --> 01:03:49,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So just sit in the zone, put

1346
01:03:49,973 --> 01:03:53,133
Speaker 3: some some music on, stop off at the playground, get

1347
01:03:53,173 --> 01:03:57,213
Speaker 3: some fish and chips, enjoy the scenery. That's all great,

1348
01:03:57,253 --> 01:03:59,013
Speaker 3: unless you've got three kids in the back that are

1349
01:03:59,373 --> 01:04:00,173
Speaker 3: going mental.

1350
01:04:00,693 --> 01:04:02,973
Speaker 2: When we started this conversation, I didn't think it would

1351
01:04:02,973 --> 01:04:05,253
Speaker 2: be a tourism campaign for Oha Cooney. I'm loving out,

1352
01:04:05,253 --> 01:04:05,813
Speaker 2: I'm here for it.

1353
01:04:05,893 --> 01:04:08,693
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, well, I mean I've flipped arden, don't

1354
01:04:08,693 --> 01:04:12,493
Speaker 3: this actually because the argument that's come through that funneling

1355
01:04:12,573 --> 01:04:14,933
Speaker 3: some traffic through Oacuni and it's tough times and all

1356
01:04:14,933 --> 01:04:17,213
Speaker 3: the beautiful stuff there and I love that area is

1357
01:04:17,413 --> 01:04:19,413
Speaker 3: actually flipping me a little bit.

1358
01:04:19,493 --> 01:04:19,973
Speaker 2: Yeah me too.

1359
01:04:20,173 --> 01:04:22,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we arguing a non issue here, Tyler.

1360
01:04:22,653 --> 01:04:25,173
Speaker 2: Oh it undred and eighty ten eighty Do we need

1361
01:04:25,253 --> 01:04:27,733
Speaker 2: to all be diverted to Ohacuney love to hear from you.

1362
01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:29,653
Speaker 2: Nine two nine two is the text number. It is

1363
01:04:29,773 --> 01:04:30,533
Speaker 2: twenty two to three.

1364
01:04:32,453 --> 01:04:33,253
Speaker 24: Have a chat with the.

1365
01:04:33,293 --> 01:04:34,813
Speaker 3: Boys on eight hundred and eighty.

1366
01:04:36,093 --> 01:04:40,173
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four news Talk said,

1367
01:04:40,213 --> 01:04:41,053
Speaker 1: be it's.

1368
01:04:40,933 --> 01:04:42,813
Speaker 2: Twenty to three. We've been having a chat about the

1369
01:04:42,973 --> 01:04:46,693
Speaker 2: road closure of the Desert Road from jan the six

1370
01:04:46,813 --> 01:04:49,093
Speaker 2: to March the sixth. But a lot of people are

1371
01:04:49,133 --> 01:04:51,413
Speaker 2: calling up saying the alternative A route is the way

1372
01:04:51,453 --> 01:04:51,613
Speaker 2: to go.

1373
01:04:51,973 --> 01:04:54,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're loving the idea of or Kenny getting

1374
01:04:54,533 --> 01:04:57,693
Speaker 3: some business because they've had some tough times. But still

1375
01:04:57,773 --> 01:05:00,973
Speaker 3: no one's really answered. My key question is why we

1376
01:05:01,133 --> 01:05:03,293
Speaker 3: can't and not just in this situation, because I understand

1377
01:05:03,293 --> 01:05:05,213
Speaker 3: there's the thirteen degrees that it has to stay at

1378
01:05:05,293 --> 01:05:07,093
Speaker 3: and maybe that doesn't happen at night, although you think

1379
01:05:07,133 --> 01:05:09,853
Speaker 3: it wouldn't Jan on the Desert Road, But why we

1380
01:05:10,013 --> 01:05:14,853
Speaker 3: can't run roadworks and shifts three shifts so it's working

1381
01:05:14,933 --> 01:05:18,053
Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day. I still haven't got the answer.

1382
01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,893
Speaker 3: And maybe it's something to do with staffing issues. Maybe

1383
01:05:20,933 --> 01:05:23,213
Speaker 3: it's something to do with labor law. I'm not sure,

1384
01:05:23,813 --> 01:05:26,613
Speaker 3: but they did it in Singapore, and I have the

1385
01:05:26,693 --> 01:05:28,493
Speaker 3: caveat on that. I know that Singapore is running a

1386
01:05:28,493 --> 01:05:31,213
Speaker 3: sho term. The government can do whatever they want. They

1387
01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:31,933
Speaker 3: just tell you to do.

1388
01:05:32,573 --> 01:05:37,893
Speaker 2: Dave might have an answer, you know, Davey good. Now

1389
01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:40,733
Speaker 2: you're a truckie and you've worked on the roads as well.

1390
01:05:42,013 --> 01:05:44,373
Speaker 16: Yeah, I've done not a massive amount, but I did

1391
01:05:44,493 --> 01:05:47,413
Speaker 16: some several construction with subdivisions and that. So we did

1392
01:05:47,453 --> 01:05:50,853
Speaker 16: a bunch of roading and we're down.

1393
01:05:50,213 --> 01:05:55,133
Speaker 5: In Wanaka area and I've just sealed a round the

1394
01:05:55,173 --> 01:05:57,933
Speaker 5: roundabout in town and they did that.

1395
01:05:58,053 --> 01:06:02,373
Speaker 16: All at night from six am. So clearly you can.

1396
01:06:02,733 --> 01:06:05,293
Speaker 16: And we also did. We did the ceiling in May.

1397
01:06:06,213 --> 01:06:07,893
Speaker 16: Well you got to take your day, but you can

1398
01:06:07,933 --> 01:06:13,213
Speaker 16: silve still feel of May in central Targo. So yeah,

1399
01:06:13,213 --> 01:06:14,733
Speaker 16: I think they'd totally be able to do it. And

1400
01:06:14,813 --> 01:06:17,333
Speaker 16: if they if they um shut the road at say

1401
01:06:17,413 --> 01:06:20,253
Speaker 16: five pm, they don't have the four and a half

1402
01:06:20,293 --> 01:06:24,573
Speaker 16: thousand light to get the ceiling done, But it all

1403
01:06:24,653 --> 01:06:29,053
Speaker 16: depends out. You know, they're actually forming up the gravel

1404
01:06:29,093 --> 01:06:31,053
Speaker 16: part of the road and doing all that, and it'd

1405
01:06:31,093 --> 01:06:35,453
Speaker 16: be pretty pretty damp hard without decent daylight. You need

1406
01:06:35,533 --> 01:06:37,613
Speaker 16: a lot of the generative, right.

1407
01:06:38,173 --> 01:06:40,133
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's that's the point that I hadn't thought of.

1408
01:06:40,693 --> 01:06:43,733
Speaker 3: So you and you need incredible visibility to be able

1409
01:06:43,773 --> 01:06:44,053
Speaker 3: to do it.

1410
01:06:46,573 --> 01:06:49,813
Speaker 16: Sorry say again, So that's something I hadn't thought of.

1411
01:06:49,893 --> 01:06:51,893
Speaker 3: So at night, if you're ceiling roads, then they need

1412
01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:55,373
Speaker 3: quite a it'll be a huge expense in terms of

1413
01:06:55,453 --> 01:06:58,893
Speaker 3: generators and lighting. The situation that's maybe a factor I

1414
01:06:58,933 --> 01:06:59,413
Speaker 3: haven't thought of.

1415
01:07:00,413 --> 01:07:03,133
Speaker 16: Yeah, that would be and you're just you know, you're

1416
01:07:03,173 --> 01:07:06,213
Speaker 16: doing a lot of stuff visionally, you're also doing you know,

1417
01:07:06,573 --> 01:07:11,773
Speaker 16: levels with various things, possibly GPS and whatever. You say, Yeah,

1418
01:07:11,813 --> 01:07:16,853
Speaker 16: it would be a whole lot harder. Say yeah, but

1419
01:07:16,973 --> 01:07:19,693
Speaker 16: you could possibly do two shifts, two twelve hour shifts

1420
01:07:19,733 --> 01:07:23,213
Speaker 16: and do the main the surf on the day, you know,

1421
01:07:23,413 --> 01:07:25,613
Speaker 16: just to get it done quicker. But that doesn't really

1422
01:07:25,693 --> 01:07:27,453
Speaker 16: help them. It's up to the search.

1423
01:07:27,973 --> 01:07:30,573
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, that's my point. It's like, you start, if

1424
01:07:30,653 --> 01:07:32,733
Speaker 3: you if you work out a way. I feel like

1425
01:07:32,733 --> 01:07:35,493
Speaker 3: I'm repeating myself and I'm not getting any closer to

1426
01:07:35,573 --> 01:07:39,413
Speaker 3: the answer for me anyway. But if you started later,

1427
01:07:39,693 --> 01:07:41,933
Speaker 3: then you wouldn't be interrupting people on their travel, and

1428
01:07:42,133 --> 01:07:44,893
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be interrupting people your truck drivers and everyone

1429
01:07:44,933 --> 01:07:47,293
Speaker 3: that's going about their business as well. If it's going

1430
01:07:47,373 --> 01:07:50,173
Speaker 3: to take three weeks from jan six to the end

1431
01:07:50,413 --> 01:07:54,293
Speaker 3: of March, I mean the end of February, go hard,

1432
01:07:54,733 --> 01:07:57,813
Speaker 3: do three shifts, work twenty four hours day and get

1433
01:07:57,813 --> 01:08:00,093
Speaker 3: it done. But someone's saying here, you're saying that they

1434
01:08:00,133 --> 01:08:01,853
Speaker 3: can't do it at night because of the light. Someone

1435
01:08:01,973 --> 01:08:05,053
Speaker 3: here's text through on nineteen ninety two that in the

1436
01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:07,493
Speaker 3: in Oz now that in some parts of Australia are

1437
01:08:07,493 --> 01:08:09,613
Speaker 3: going twenty four hours on the roads when they're getting

1438
01:08:09,613 --> 01:08:09,893
Speaker 3: it done.

1439
01:08:10,253 --> 01:08:11,933
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you work

1440
01:08:12,013 --> 01:08:14,333
Speaker 2: on the roads or you're part of a construction firm,

1441
01:08:14,493 --> 01:08:16,853
Speaker 2: love to hear from you on this one. Donald, what's

1442
01:08:16,893 --> 01:08:17,932
Speaker 2: your view on the road closure?

1443
01:08:18,813 --> 01:08:21,772
Speaker 28: Gooday, plubbly interesting. My dad was in camp and Waura

1444
01:08:21,813 --> 01:08:23,773
Speaker 28: in the forties and he reckoned the Desert Road was

1445
01:08:23,813 --> 01:08:25,652
Speaker 28: just a track those days. It was not the main

1446
01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:28,053
Speaker 28: road before nineteen forty. He went to walk and you

1447
01:08:28,093 --> 01:08:30,333
Speaker 28: went by a new Plymouth and the Desert Road wasn't

1448
01:08:30,372 --> 01:08:32,973
Speaker 28: opened as the main highway till well after nineteen The

1449
01:08:33,053 --> 01:08:36,532
Speaker 28: water we say. I used the Western Highway about nineteen

1450
01:08:36,652 --> 01:08:38,852
Speaker 28: ninety on a trip up there through our RACOONI and

1451
01:08:38,893 --> 01:08:41,812
Speaker 28: that and I my unfortunate of mechanical breakdown. My Mark

1452
01:08:41,893 --> 01:08:44,572
Speaker 28: W z for stripped the fiber timing wheel three k's

1453
01:08:44,612 --> 01:08:47,293
Speaker 28: north of Horripiza auto Wreckers where.

1454
01:08:47,173 --> 01:08:50,412
Speaker 29: A vice railway via set me on the side of

1455
01:08:50,452 --> 01:08:52,812
Speaker 29: the road and nobody would stop from Mustard yellow Mark

1456
01:08:52,893 --> 01:08:55,452
Speaker 29: for z F with no hubcaps because I looked at Absolution,

1457
01:08:55,973 --> 01:08:57,732
Speaker 29: and I was beautifully dressed up the camera mamb my

1458
01:08:57,812 --> 01:08:59,532
Speaker 29: neck and walk shorts, and I was realful light a.

1459
01:08:59,853 --> 01:09:01,333
Speaker 4: I was in the four of Thesy.

1460
01:09:01,412 --> 01:09:03,812
Speaker 28: Some Asian stopped there going to Parmis and they told

1461
01:09:03,853 --> 01:09:05,532
Speaker 28: me he took me back to Ouracuni in the camp.

1462
01:09:05,612 --> 01:09:08,173
Speaker 28: I happily told my Mark for Zephyr and I have

1463
01:09:08,372 --> 01:09:10,652
Speaker 28: struck there five days waiting for a five time and

1464
01:09:10,692 --> 01:09:12,532
Speaker 28: we'll have to come down from Auckland and got the

1465
01:09:12,612 --> 01:09:14,852
Speaker 28: thing going. You know, that's the last time I used it.

1466
01:09:15,572 --> 01:09:16,932
Speaker 19: But Western Highway is okay.

1467
01:09:16,933 --> 01:09:18,253
Speaker 9: I sort of a bit of jogging around.

1468
01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:18,853
Speaker 24: Ay.

1469
01:09:18,893 --> 01:09:21,012
Speaker 28: There's a very sharp bend in the middle of the town.

1470
01:09:21,293 --> 01:09:23,013
Speaker 28: I reckon someone will roll the truck on it. In

1471
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:24,933
Speaker 28: the middle of the main streets. Somewhere there's a very

1472
01:09:25,013 --> 01:09:27,772
Speaker 28: sharp bend. Actually from memory, but I'm going back to

1473
01:09:27,772 --> 01:09:30,892
Speaker 28: about nineteen ninety ninety one. So we'll have to take easy.

1474
01:09:30,973 --> 01:09:33,173
Speaker 28: It'll make the town. It's quite a pretty little town.

1475
01:09:33,412 --> 01:09:35,173
Speaker 28: But in Febry it's stinking hot of you know what

1476
01:09:35,253 --> 01:09:38,213
Speaker 28: I mean, you know, But no, the road, it'll be great.

1477
01:09:38,333 --> 01:09:40,372
Speaker 28: I had not actually been over the Desert Road, believer,

1478
01:09:40,532 --> 01:09:42,053
Speaker 28: not since I was last up that way, which is

1479
01:09:42,173 --> 01:09:44,973
Speaker 28: nineteen ninety seven, and I've come across over at ten

1480
01:09:45,053 --> 01:09:47,452
Speaker 28: and eleven at night coming back from holidays in Auckland

1481
01:09:47,532 --> 01:09:49,093
Speaker 28: and that, but I have not actually been over that

1482
01:09:49,253 --> 01:09:51,532
Speaker 28: road since nineteen ninety seven. It's the last time I

1483
01:09:51,572 --> 01:09:53,652
Speaker 28: was in Auckland yet. Previously that i'd go up annually

1484
01:09:53,692 --> 01:09:56,412
Speaker 28: in that you know, hope do something. I don't know

1485
01:09:56,452 --> 01:09:58,333
Speaker 28: what they planned, sob was going to be quite major

1486
01:09:58,692 --> 01:10:00,972
Speaker 28: for some just by the way. For some crazy reason,

1487
01:10:01,013 --> 01:10:02,973
Speaker 28: I've got reluctant to go north of Bulls because I

1488
01:10:03,452 --> 01:10:05,412
Speaker 28: like a town. You'll be ten days, like between Levin

1489
01:10:05,452 --> 01:10:07,133
Speaker 28: and Wellington's got a breakdownhe was up there.

1490
01:10:07,173 --> 01:10:08,092
Speaker 7: You're stuck by yourself.

1491
01:10:08,452 --> 01:10:10,612
Speaker 28: But I'll have to bite the bullets and just cruise

1492
01:10:10,692 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 28: up there soon because it was twenty seven years since

1493
01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:14,293
Speaker 28: I've been to Tip and I barely want to see people,

1494
01:10:14,333 --> 01:10:16,812
Speaker 28: you know, and I've got more monetarised.

1495
01:10:16,293 --> 01:10:17,772
Speaker 12: By the way now I do have a Mark four

1496
01:10:17,812 --> 01:10:19,293
Speaker 12: and I've got some other ones that's are new.

1497
01:10:19,452 --> 01:10:23,692
Speaker 3: So yeah, something you know, well, Avad Donald, you know,

1498
01:10:23,973 --> 01:10:27,412
Speaker 3: you run a good internal calendar. You've got good memories

1499
01:10:27,452 --> 01:10:29,412
Speaker 3: of the years and when and what you were driving.

1500
01:10:29,452 --> 01:10:32,333
Speaker 3: It's it's quite impressive when we change from because you

1501
01:10:32,372 --> 01:10:35,213
Speaker 3: don't hear that much talk about the Zephyr. That used

1502
01:10:35,213 --> 01:10:38,213
Speaker 3: to be considered the sort of the quintessential New Zealand car,

1503
01:10:38,293 --> 01:10:40,452
Speaker 3: didn't it. You'd hear that the Zephyr, but you don't

1504
01:10:40,492 --> 01:10:42,532
Speaker 3: really see too many Zephas on the road anymore.

1505
01:10:42,692 --> 01:10:45,253
Speaker 2: No, it'd be worth big money now, wouldn't they.

1506
01:10:45,572 --> 01:10:47,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just so. I was just actually, well you

1507
01:10:47,452 --> 01:10:48,933
Speaker 3: were talking. I was trying to talk and look up

1508
01:10:48,973 --> 01:10:51,973
Speaker 3: how much you get for a nineteen seventy Ford ze

1509
01:10:52,372 --> 01:10:56,012
Speaker 3: Zephyr and that doesn't say it's an auction.

1510
01:10:56,293 --> 01:10:58,973
Speaker 2: But yeah, beautiful cars though, aren't they.

1511
01:10:59,053 --> 01:11:01,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point, at some point we stopped talking

1512
01:11:02,013 --> 01:11:03,452
Speaker 3: about Zipher's as much as we used to.

1513
01:11:03,732 --> 01:11:05,612
Speaker 2: Bring back the Zephyr. Ray. How you doing?

1514
01:11:06,772 --> 01:11:09,213
Speaker 27: Yeah, you fell sort of. If you knew you're going

1515
01:11:09,293 --> 01:11:11,412
Speaker 27: to talk about this, you should have checked up our

1516
01:11:11,572 --> 01:11:15,133
Speaker 27: conversation with Walker Court honey, Yeah, over your hours so

1517
01:11:15,293 --> 01:11:16,812
Speaker 27: that you would have got all the answers.

1518
01:11:17,412 --> 01:11:19,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not answering our calls, mate, we're trying to

1519
01:11:19,532 --> 01:11:22,013
Speaker 3: get hold of they're not answering our calls.

1520
01:11:23,093 --> 01:11:25,293
Speaker 27: From A Tucker Hill's been worked on every night for

1521
01:11:25,372 --> 01:11:28,013
Speaker 27: the last four or five weeks and they still got

1522
01:11:28,013 --> 01:11:30,652
Speaker 27: another three or four weeks ago and he's taking the

1523
01:11:30,732 --> 01:11:33,173
Speaker 27: right till Christmas. So you don't have to look a

1524
01:11:33,253 --> 01:11:35,973
Speaker 27: single poorn. Mates, there's still work going on. It's on

1525
01:11:36,133 --> 01:11:36,932
Speaker 27: our roads at night.

1526
01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, as is it going to twenty four hour shift though?

1527
01:11:40,372 --> 01:11:42,173
Speaker 3: Is what I'm talking about, not just like are they

1528
01:11:42,293 --> 01:11:43,812
Speaker 3: just working at night? Are they working all day and

1529
01:11:43,853 --> 01:11:44,253
Speaker 3: then night?

1530
01:11:44,732 --> 01:11:47,852
Speaker 27: The lights there's still a couple of lights set up

1531
01:11:47,893 --> 01:11:50,532
Speaker 27: on there during the day because they're part of the

1532
01:11:50,652 --> 01:11:53,492
Speaker 27: road slump, so it's down the one lane.

1533
01:11:53,372 --> 01:11:54,213
Speaker 9: On the light system.

1534
01:11:55,253 --> 01:11:57,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're working. Are they're working in the day

1535
01:11:57,412 --> 01:11:57,852
Speaker 3: and the night?

1536
01:11:59,133 --> 01:11:59,333
Speaker 30: Yeah?

1537
01:11:59,692 --> 01:12:02,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, there no excuse. Okay, So if so,

1538
01:12:02,772 --> 01:12:05,452
Speaker 3: if they can do it, then why aren't they doing it?

1539
01:12:06,173 --> 01:12:07,052
Speaker 3: That's my question.

1540
01:12:08,372 --> 01:12:11,333
Speaker 2: Our preach. You work in civil construction, can you give

1541
01:12:11,412 --> 01:12:11,852
Speaker 2: us an answer?

1542
01:12:13,173 --> 01:12:14,053
Speaker 31: Say, Matte, how are you guys?

1543
01:12:14,173 --> 01:12:14,372
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1544
01:12:14,412 --> 01:12:14,572
Speaker 3: Good?

1545
01:12:16,093 --> 01:12:16,293
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1546
01:12:16,372 --> 01:12:18,692
Speaker 31: So I'm actually a SA engineered by trade, and just

1547
01:12:18,732 --> 01:12:20,532
Speaker 31: a few things I wanted to bring up with a

1548
01:12:20,612 --> 01:12:23,852
Speaker 31: big thing and this is an engineer's approval. So normally

1549
01:12:23,933 --> 01:12:25,412
Speaker 31: to get an engineer out on site, you need to

1550
01:12:25,452 --> 01:12:27,572
Speaker 31: get them five to ten working days notice to just

1551
01:12:27,853 --> 01:12:28,452
Speaker 31: get them there.

1552
01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:31,732
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, that's a big one.

1553
01:12:31,812 --> 01:12:34,932
Speaker 32: And then I just wanted to say also for working

1554
01:12:34,973 --> 01:12:37,213
Speaker 32: in our cruise, there's a night shift allowance, so it

1555
01:12:37,293 --> 01:12:40,972
Speaker 32: can be anywhere between forty to sixty dollars. And then

1556
01:12:41,133 --> 01:12:43,133
Speaker 32: so let's say, if you've got twenty guys working, it's

1557
01:12:43,173 --> 01:12:45,052
Speaker 32: quite a bit more money than you we're paying.

1558
01:12:44,933 --> 01:12:47,652
Speaker 3: For days, you know, yeah, right, But I mean I

1559
01:12:47,692 --> 01:12:49,893
Speaker 3: guess if you if you've got an important road that

1560
01:12:49,973 --> 01:12:51,772
Speaker 3: a lot of people going down, wouldn't it be worth

1561
01:12:51,812 --> 01:12:55,612
Speaker 3: that price? And you know that the increased price of

1562
01:12:55,732 --> 01:12:59,412
Speaker 3: something going for one week as opposed to three weeks.

1563
01:13:00,732 --> 01:13:03,372
Speaker 16: I mean definitely roads, the national student roads and national

1564
01:13:03,412 --> 01:13:05,053
Speaker 16: certent efforts, do you want to speed them up?

1565
01:13:05,093 --> 01:13:07,133
Speaker 33: But you know left have it by the road.

1566
01:13:08,612 --> 01:13:08,812
Speaker 3: Yes.

1567
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:11,372
Speaker 31: But then on the other side, us contractors also want

1568
01:13:11,412 --> 01:13:12,692
Speaker 31: to make a bit of money and try and make

1569
01:13:12,732 --> 01:13:13,413
Speaker 31: it spend.

1570
01:13:13,293 --> 01:13:18,532
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, and so and I guess you

1571
01:13:19,013 --> 01:13:21,133
Speaker 3: want to be employed for a certain amount of time.

1572
01:13:21,572 --> 01:13:24,093
Speaker 3: There's there's a concept that I was reading about, and

1573
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:27,093
Speaker 3: it's got a name for it. It's a theorem that

1574
01:13:27,452 --> 01:13:29,692
Speaker 3: however much time you have, you will fill that amount

1575
01:13:29,732 --> 01:13:32,892
Speaker 3: of time. Yeah, So you know, if you have three weeks.

1576
01:13:32,933 --> 01:13:36,133
Speaker 3: You'll take three weeks or twice as long. Yea, so so,

1577
01:13:36,532 --> 01:13:38,812
Speaker 3: And they haven't actually exactly worked out why it is,

1578
01:13:39,492 --> 01:13:41,692
Speaker 3: but that the time you have, even if you double

1579
01:13:41,732 --> 01:13:43,213
Speaker 3: it at the start, you will still fill it.

1580
01:13:43,492 --> 01:13:45,852
Speaker 2: Is that procrastination. That's what it comes down to, is it?

1581
01:13:46,053 --> 01:13:47,732
Speaker 3: No, No, it's I'll find out what the name of

1582
01:13:47,772 --> 01:13:50,173
Speaker 3: the theory is. But it's it's interesting because they've looked

1583
01:13:50,173 --> 01:13:52,052
Speaker 3: into it and they've tried to investigate why it happens,

1584
01:13:52,093 --> 01:13:53,612
Speaker 3: and it's hard to actually put your finger on why

1585
01:13:53,692 --> 01:13:54,092
Speaker 3: that happens.

1586
01:13:54,492 --> 01:13:56,412
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the number

1587
01:13:56,452 --> 01:13:58,052
Speaker 2: to call. Will have time for a couple more calls

1588
01:13:58,093 --> 01:13:59,812
Speaker 2: before we wrap this one up, but it is ten

1589
01:13:59,893 --> 01:14:00,412
Speaker 2: to three.

1590
01:14:02,053 --> 01:14:04,452
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1591
01:14:04,532 --> 01:14:10,652
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Adams afternoons twenty twenty four. You talk'd.

1592
01:14:11,692 --> 01:14:13,692
Speaker 2: Take to three Malcolm. What do you think about this

1593
01:14:13,812 --> 01:14:14,333
Speaker 2: road closure?

1594
01:14:15,173 --> 01:14:15,333
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1595
01:14:15,412 --> 01:14:18,772
Speaker 30: Hi, man, I don't know what actually everybody's on about.

1596
01:14:19,612 --> 01:14:24,812
Speaker 30: We've had night construction here in Taranaki for yonks. They work,

1597
01:14:24,893 --> 01:14:28,492
Speaker 30: they shut the road, the main stay Highway three at

1598
01:14:29,173 --> 01:14:33,772
Speaker 30: say Midhurst going towards New Plymouth and it comes out

1599
01:14:33,933 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 30: again at the detour comes out again at Inglewood, but

1600
01:14:37,492 --> 01:14:40,932
Speaker 30: they work all night. The lights gone at seven They

1601
01:14:41,333 --> 01:14:46,092
Speaker 30: start at seven pm at night and the closure comes

1602
01:14:46,173 --> 01:14:49,973
Speaker 30: off again at seven am and they've got lights and

1603
01:14:50,053 --> 01:14:52,612
Speaker 30: they've got they don ceiling. It's a load of crap

1604
01:14:52,692 --> 01:14:55,173
Speaker 30: that they can't do tar ceiling at night.

1605
01:14:55,772 --> 01:14:56,213
Speaker 9: They do it.

1606
01:14:56,812 --> 01:14:58,772
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, it's good to hear Malcolm. Well, I understand here.

1607
01:14:58,812 --> 01:15:01,652
Speaker 3: There's going to be talking to Waka Kotahi on her

1608
01:15:01,772 --> 01:15:04,013
Speaker 3: show later on, so they'll get to the answer whether

1609
01:15:04,013 --> 01:15:06,012
Speaker 3: they're going to attempt to do it twenty four hours

1610
01:15:06,053 --> 01:15:06,772
Speaker 3: on the desert road.

1611
01:15:06,893 --> 01:15:09,333
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll get an answer on that. Toby, you're a

1612
01:15:09,412 --> 01:15:11,052
Speaker 2: lucky last. We've got sixty seconds.

1613
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:16,132
Speaker 34: Nice hey, just back to that. It's called schoolboys syndrome

1614
01:15:16,372 --> 01:15:18,973
Speaker 34: where you fill the time you're allocated. Just by the

1615
01:15:19,053 --> 01:15:21,932
Speaker 34: way we learn about it space that comes back to exam.

1616
01:15:22,053 --> 01:15:24,333
Speaker 34: So yeah, I've been doing I work down in Wellington

1617
01:15:24,772 --> 01:15:27,133
Speaker 34: and yet is absolutely you can definitely do it in

1618
01:15:27,213 --> 01:15:28,973
Speaker 34: the twenty four hour shifts. So I think it'll be

1619
01:15:28,973 --> 01:15:31,852
Speaker 34: a lack of management. It's just getting the management from

1620
01:15:31,893 --> 01:15:35,213
Speaker 34: the tier one contractors is you've got every chance in

1621
01:15:35,253 --> 01:15:37,372
Speaker 34: the world and getting subcontractors come and do the work

1622
01:15:37,893 --> 01:15:40,652
Speaker 34: in this current market and either that all the temperatures

1623
01:15:40,772 --> 01:15:42,772
Speaker 34: is my only guess for why they don't want to

1624
01:15:42,772 --> 01:15:42,893
Speaker 34: do it.

1625
01:15:43,093 --> 01:15:43,692
Speaker 16: Just just a risk.

1626
01:15:43,772 --> 01:15:45,773
Speaker 12: You might get sixty.

1627
01:15:45,492 --> 01:15:47,372
Speaker 34: Percent of the nights might be good for ceiling, but

1628
01:15:47,452 --> 01:15:49,732
Speaker 34: those are the forty percent the cost the risk might

1629
01:15:49,812 --> 01:15:52,692
Speaker 34: be too much for them to just to weigh up. Basically,

1630
01:15:52,812 --> 01:15:54,612
Speaker 34: so that's the reason I can think.

1631
01:15:55,173 --> 01:15:57,852
Speaker 3: Okay, well, thanks so much for you for your call, Toby,

1632
01:15:58,293 --> 01:16:02,012
Speaker 3: you called a school boys schoolboys law. I'm talking about

1633
01:16:02,093 --> 01:16:05,173
Speaker 3: hof Status law, which Hofstad's law states that the project

1634
01:16:05,173 --> 01:16:07,532
Speaker 3: always takes longer than expected even when the law is

1635
01:16:07,572 --> 01:16:10,173
Speaker 3: taken Toto accounts put time estimates for how long a

1636
01:16:10,213 --> 01:16:12,812
Speaker 3: project will take to complete alway is full short of

1637
01:16:12,893 --> 01:16:15,732
Speaker 3: the actual time required to complete it. The law holds

1638
01:16:15,772 --> 01:16:18,212
Speaker 3: through even when the time allotted is increased to compensate

1639
01:16:18,253 --> 01:16:21,093
Speaker 3: for the human tendency towards underestimation. In other words, the

1640
01:16:21,213 --> 01:16:23,572
Speaker 3: law still proves true even when you factor in the

1641
01:16:23,612 --> 01:16:27,052
Speaker 3: possibility that you may need more time to complete the project.

1642
01:16:27,612 --> 01:16:28,213
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

1643
01:16:28,412 --> 01:16:30,452
Speaker 3: Holfted As law has frequently evoked in the context of

1644
01:16:30,492 --> 01:16:33,973
Speaker 3: it and software development is particularly relevant. Time management productivity

1645
01:16:34,213 --> 01:16:36,892
Speaker 3: project management and DevOps. So that's interesting. So even if

1646
01:16:36,933 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 3: you take it into account, it still takes longer than

1647
01:16:39,412 --> 01:16:39,933
Speaker 3: you expect it.

1648
01:16:40,093 --> 01:16:41,732
Speaker 2: So it's not going to take two months, it's going

1649
01:16:41,812 --> 01:16:42,372
Speaker 2: to take longer.

1650
01:16:42,612 --> 01:16:44,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, well potentially, yeah.

1651
01:16:44,293 --> 01:16:46,692
Speaker 2: Right, that is where we'll leave it, because after three

1652
01:16:46,732 --> 01:16:48,732
Speaker 2: o'clock we want to talk about fasting. On the back

1653
01:16:48,812 --> 01:16:52,012
Speaker 2: of Bruce Springsteen and Matt's new make Chris Marson having

1654
01:16:52,133 --> 01:16:54,932
Speaker 2: one meal a day, they rave about it. So keen

1655
01:16:55,013 --> 01:16:57,412
Speaker 2: on your thoughts about fasting very shortly. Oh eight one

1656
01:16:57,452 --> 01:17:00,213
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1657
01:17:00,293 --> 01:17:02,812
Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Very very

1658
01:17:02,973 --> 01:17:05,812
Speaker 2: very good afternoon to you new sport, and weather on

1659
01:17:06,053 --> 01:17:11,972
Speaker 2: its way will catch you soon, get to you, come.

1660
01:17:12,452 --> 01:17:16,452
Speaker 22: Back your town to set you on your feet again.

1661
01:17:18,692 --> 01:17:24,213
Speaker 22: Maybe you get replace man spending like me to be

1662
01:17:24,492 --> 01:17:30,572
Speaker 22: found my room to ain't gotta pass.

1663
01:17:30,933 --> 01:17:32,612
Speaker 3: Been totting this idea.

1664
01:17:46,173 --> 01:17:51,293
Speaker 22: Still cattle in this room, were the dogs out?

1665
01:17:51,532 --> 01:17:55,253
Speaker 9: Decided out the cat.

1666
01:17:58,652 --> 01:18:07,933
Speaker 22: Boat aloud as the hundred and.

1667
01:18:08,013 --> 01:18:41,012
Speaker 1: By your new home for instateful edit a teening talk.

1668
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:45,293
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk

1669
01:18:45,412 --> 01:18:47,333
Speaker 1: Sebby Good afternoon.

1670
01:18:47,452 --> 01:18:50,452
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show. Seven past three, final hour

1671
01:18:50,572 --> 01:18:53,452
Speaker 2: for us. For today, Let's have a chat about fasting.

1672
01:18:53,612 --> 01:18:56,532
Speaker 2: Is it healthy to eat just once a day? Bruce

1673
01:18:56,612 --> 01:19:00,333
Speaker 2: Springsteen thinks so. So he's still going hard at seventy five.

1674
01:19:00,412 --> 01:19:03,093
Speaker 2: He's played more than one hundred shows in twenty twenty

1675
01:19:03,173 --> 01:19:07,812
Speaker 2: three and twenty twenty four combined. He sits routinely the

1676
01:19:07,973 --> 01:19:10,412
Speaker 2: top three hours, and he has shows booked through to

1677
01:19:10,492 --> 01:19:13,012
Speaker 2: next July. So how does he fuel himself through such

1678
01:19:13,013 --> 01:19:15,372
Speaker 2: a grueling routine? He says, I quote, I have a

1679
01:19:15,412 --> 01:19:17,572
Speaker 2: bit of fruit in the morning, then he'll have dinner

1680
01:19:17,973 --> 01:19:21,333
Speaker 2: that has kept me lean and mean. So this diet

1681
01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:25,612
Speaker 2: eating one meal a day is sometimes called the omad diet.

1682
01:19:26,173 --> 01:19:29,772
Speaker 2: It is catching on in celebrity circles. Chris Martin is

1683
01:19:29,812 --> 01:19:33,013
Speaker 2: another who swears by him but one meal a day.

1684
01:19:33,213 --> 01:19:38,132
Speaker 2: According to doctor Carolyn Obvian, a obesity specialist at Brigham

1685
01:19:38,173 --> 01:19:40,412
Speaker 2: and Women's Hospital in Boston, says it is not a

1686
01:19:40,532 --> 01:19:41,132
Speaker 2: good idea.

1687
01:19:41,412 --> 01:19:42,652
Speaker 3: What sir rational around that?

1688
01:19:43,492 --> 01:19:46,932
Speaker 2: She says that she is a proponent of intermittent fasting

1689
01:19:46,973 --> 01:19:49,612
Speaker 2: in general and recommends it to many of her patients

1690
01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:52,333
Speaker 2: with obesity, But one meal a day she thinks is

1691
01:19:52,412 --> 01:19:53,213
Speaker 2: slightly too far.

1692
01:19:53,452 --> 01:19:55,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the thing is with any diet like that,

1693
01:19:55,133 --> 01:19:57,093
Speaker 3: and good on Bruce Springsteen seems to be working for him.

1694
01:19:57,133 --> 01:19:58,692
Speaker 3: He's in good shape for his age. Although when he

1695
01:19:58,772 --> 01:20:02,213
Speaker 3: was singing at one of those Karmela rallies he was there,

1696
01:20:02,372 --> 01:20:05,532
Speaker 3: it was I've been to Bruce Springs Bruce Springsteen live

1697
01:20:05,572 --> 01:20:07,972
Speaker 3: before and he sounded great, but he didn't sound great

1698
01:20:07,973 --> 01:20:10,372
Speaker 3: at that re for some reason. But yeah, I mean,

1699
01:20:10,412 --> 01:20:11,933
Speaker 3: the problem with it is whether you can keep it

1700
01:20:12,013 --> 01:20:12,333
Speaker 3: up or not.

1701
01:20:12,572 --> 01:20:12,692
Speaker 4: Right.

1702
01:20:12,853 --> 01:20:15,492
Speaker 3: So someone said to me, if you're going to start

1703
01:20:15,532 --> 01:20:17,892
Speaker 3: a diet, then ask yourself, can you keep that going

1704
01:20:17,933 --> 01:20:20,932
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life? And I've tried into

1705
01:20:20,973 --> 01:20:24,732
Speaker 3: mint it fasting, and look, I'm not at my peak weight.

1706
01:20:24,812 --> 01:20:27,293
Speaker 3: I'm at the whatever end of the yo yos. That's

1707
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:30,732
Speaker 3: ten kg's above where I need to be. But I

1708
01:20:30,893 --> 01:20:33,812
Speaker 3: just find anything that that. So what I did was

1709
01:20:33,933 --> 01:20:37,772
Speaker 3: I was not eating. I was eating my final meal

1710
01:20:38,013 --> 01:20:41,932
Speaker 3: at about before seven o'clock at night and not having

1711
01:20:41,973 --> 01:20:44,253
Speaker 3: my next meal to lunch the next day. But I

1712
01:20:44,372 --> 01:20:46,213
Speaker 3: just found out. But by the time I got to lunch,

1713
01:20:46,253 --> 01:20:49,053
Speaker 3: I just was so ravenous. I just slammed so much

1714
01:20:49,133 --> 01:20:52,133
Speaker 3: food at lunch that it would offset the advantage, because

1715
01:20:52,133 --> 01:20:55,692
Speaker 3: I guess the advantage of not eating is you're burning

1716
01:20:55,732 --> 01:20:57,972
Speaker 3: the calories while you're doing stuff. And we have quite

1717
01:20:57,973 --> 01:21:00,013
Speaker 3: a sedentary life now compared to what it used to be,

1718
01:21:00,133 --> 01:21:02,612
Speaker 3: and we have much bigger servings than we used to have.

1719
01:21:02,732 --> 01:21:05,892
Speaker 3: And there's lots of problems with you know, corn syrup

1720
01:21:05,933 --> 01:21:08,572
Speaker 3: and all the different sugars and our meals and our

1721
01:21:08,652 --> 01:21:12,293
Speaker 3: food now. But I just think that my problem with fasting.

1722
01:21:12,372 --> 01:21:14,652
Speaker 3: I love to hear from people on eight hundred and

1723
01:21:14,732 --> 01:21:18,293
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty around it is just any diet that

1724
01:21:18,412 --> 01:21:23,772
Speaker 3: involves that much willpower is doomed to fail. So is

1725
01:21:23,893 --> 01:21:28,013
Speaker 3: the best diet just eating smaller amounts? And a lot

1726
01:21:28,013 --> 01:21:31,293
Speaker 3: of people talk about whole foods, But what is the

1727
01:21:31,372 --> 01:21:35,293
Speaker 3: diet that works? And because interimute fasting I've tried, I've

1728
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:36,892
Speaker 3: tried a lot of different things and it just blows

1729
01:21:36,973 --> 01:21:38,253
Speaker 3: up in my face and I have an equal and

1730
01:21:38,293 --> 01:21:39,333
Speaker 3: opposite reaction.

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01:21:39,492 --> 01:21:41,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you when I tried that didn't work

1732
01:21:41,732 --> 01:21:44,572
Speaker 2: well at all. The Keto diet it was massive about

1733
01:21:44,572 --> 01:21:46,732
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, so maybe my partner may've

1734
01:21:46,812 --> 01:21:49,772
Speaker 2: tried it. That is pretty much zero carbs.

1735
01:21:50,013 --> 01:21:50,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll tell you what.

1736
01:21:51,133 --> 01:21:53,612
Speaker 2: All the joy was just sucked out of our lives. Honestly,

1737
01:21:53,732 --> 01:21:55,852
Speaker 2: it was. I just thought this is horrible, did it

1738
01:21:55,933 --> 01:21:58,452
Speaker 2: for about two weeks and thinking I am so miserable,

1739
01:21:58,692 --> 01:21:59,372
Speaker 2: so miserable.

1740
01:21:59,452 --> 01:22:01,333
Speaker 3: I tried the Carnival diet for a while. I'm pretty

1741
01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:04,973
Speaker 3: sure I got scurvy. So is that the problem? It's

1742
01:22:05,053 --> 01:22:08,452
Speaker 3: just trying diets and trying things and fasting and all

1743
01:22:08,452 --> 01:22:10,532
Speaker 3: these kind of things. You're always trying something rather than

1744
01:22:10,612 --> 01:22:13,532
Speaker 3: doing what you actually need to do is three meals

1745
01:22:13,572 --> 01:22:16,732
Speaker 3: a day, smaller helpings, healthy whole foods.

1746
01:22:16,853 --> 01:22:17,053
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1747
01:22:17,853 --> 01:22:21,452
Speaker 3: Is it just eating like you should, like normal, you know,

1748
01:22:21,652 --> 01:22:23,573
Speaker 3: rather than trying to come up with some kind of crazy.

1749
01:22:23,333 --> 01:22:25,372
Speaker 2: Thing overthinking it? Is that what you do now? You

1750
01:22:25,572 --> 01:22:27,732
Speaker 2: try and keep it simple as long as it's real food.

1751
01:22:28,013 --> 01:22:29,932
Speaker 2: You have your three meals a day. You're feeling pretty

1752
01:22:29,933 --> 01:22:30,452
Speaker 2: good these days.

1753
01:22:30,572 --> 01:22:30,732
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1754
01:22:30,772 --> 01:22:32,652
Speaker 3: Well, whatever I'm doing is not working, That's what I'm saying.

1755
01:22:32,893 --> 01:22:36,333
Speaker 2: So, oh, eight hundred eighty, ten eighty the phone lines

1756
01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:38,532
Speaker 2: have let up. Let's get into it. It is ten

1757
01:22:38,612 --> 01:22:41,772
Speaker 2: past three, thirteen past three.

1758
01:22:42,372 --> 01:22:44,732
Speaker 3: So Bruce Benstein, the boss, has said he's eating once

1759
01:22:44,772 --> 01:22:48,012
Speaker 3: a day and he's finding all the energy he needs

1760
01:22:48,213 --> 01:22:49,692
Speaker 3: and he's looking pretty good. You got to say for

1761
01:22:49,732 --> 01:22:52,772
Speaker 3: his age. I believe he's seventy five. Yeah, but does

1762
01:22:52,812 --> 01:22:54,612
Speaker 3: it work for you? It hasn't worked for me. We're

1763
01:22:54,652 --> 01:22:57,412
Speaker 3: talking about diets here. There's a text come through a

1764
01:22:57,452 --> 01:22:59,612
Speaker 3: nine two nine two. Why don't you people just move?

1765
01:23:00,133 --> 01:23:02,293
Speaker 3: If you're a fat bastard, just get off your ass

1766
01:23:02,412 --> 01:23:05,412
Speaker 3: fastness for slabs that just can't put the doughnut down,

1767
01:23:05,572 --> 01:23:08,572
Speaker 3: Billy commonly put it, best move more eat less. You're

1768
01:23:08,572 --> 01:23:12,173
Speaker 3: fair bastards. So I mean, that's that's a simplistic view

1769
01:23:12,253 --> 01:23:13,692
Speaker 3: that's come through from being fair.

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01:23:13,732 --> 01:23:16,013
Speaker 2: Advice though, Emma, how are you?

1771
01:23:17,333 --> 01:23:17,732
Speaker 9: I'm good?

1772
01:23:17,812 --> 01:23:18,133
Speaker 19: How are you?

1773
01:23:18,253 --> 01:23:18,492
Speaker 14: Guys?

1774
01:23:18,652 --> 01:23:19,652
Speaker 23: Great shows, I believe.

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01:23:19,812 --> 01:23:22,333
Speaker 3: Oh thank you so much. Emma. So you're a fan

1776
01:23:22,412 --> 01:23:24,053
Speaker 3: of intermittent fasting or nay?

1777
01:23:24,732 --> 01:23:26,293
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, absolutely So.

1778
01:23:26,812 --> 01:23:28,852
Speaker 35: I've been doing it for about two and a half years.

1779
01:23:28,893 --> 01:23:30,973
Speaker 35: But I'm a functional health coach as well, so I

1780
01:23:31,053 --> 01:23:32,532
Speaker 35: as had it for my clients, but.

1781
01:23:33,013 --> 01:23:35,413
Speaker 23: I'm doing it more for the health benefits.

1782
01:23:35,532 --> 01:23:39,812
Speaker 35: So the reason I've started doing it is because it

1783
01:23:39,973 --> 01:23:42,732
Speaker 35: basically gets rid of the cellular debris that you have

1784
01:23:42,893 --> 01:23:45,652
Speaker 35: in your body that you don't need. So pretty infected,

1785
01:23:45,732 --> 01:23:48,532
Speaker 35: pre cancerous, you know, the crap that your body doesn't

1786
01:23:48,612 --> 01:23:51,493
Speaker 35: need to get rid of it through this process called autophogy,

1787
01:23:51,572 --> 01:23:55,412
Speaker 35: and that kind of kicks in about our fastem and

1788
01:23:55,612 --> 01:23:59,532
Speaker 35: then it just means that you also, because you're resting

1789
01:23:59,572 --> 01:24:03,572
Speaker 35: and digesting your body, your body is much more efficient

1790
01:24:03,772 --> 01:24:07,133
Speaker 35: to process the food when you are eating it, and

1791
01:24:07,652 --> 01:24:09,932
Speaker 35: it gives me so much more energy. So I used

1792
01:24:09,973 --> 01:24:12,213
Speaker 35: to kind of get the two pm slump, you know,

1793
01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:15,532
Speaker 35: and reach the coffee, and now I've just got energy

1794
01:24:15,652 --> 01:24:19,173
Speaker 35: all day, which is amazing, particularly when you're running around

1795
01:24:19,213 --> 01:24:24,812
Speaker 35: after kids and stuff. But also for promoting longevity, so

1796
01:24:24,933 --> 01:24:28,692
Speaker 35: it promotes it prevents neurodegeneration, so it stops that brain

1797
01:24:28,732 --> 01:24:33,533
Speaker 35: from shrinking and has been said to prevent dementia and Alzheimer's.

1798
01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:36,652
Speaker 35: So I think the weight loss side of things, you know,

1799
01:24:36,853 --> 01:24:39,293
Speaker 35: if you need to lose weight, it's an added benefit,

1800
01:24:39,452 --> 01:24:43,892
Speaker 35: but the benefits for longevity for me and my clients

1801
01:24:43,933 --> 01:24:46,012
Speaker 35: I think is just so awesome.

1802
01:24:46,213 --> 01:24:47,372
Speaker 9: So it's no brainer.

1803
01:24:47,612 --> 01:24:49,412
Speaker 35: And like, I don't do it during the weekend, so

1804
01:24:49,452 --> 01:24:51,772
Speaker 35: I go out, you know for brunch or whatever on

1805
01:24:51,812 --> 01:24:54,612
Speaker 35: a Saturday or Sunday. I'll just eat normally. But during

1806
01:24:54,692 --> 01:24:55,012
Speaker 35: the week.

1807
01:24:56,013 --> 01:24:56,612
Speaker 12: It's awesome.

1808
01:24:57,253 --> 01:25:00,732
Speaker 3: And yeah, bodies have evolved, haven't they to go without

1809
01:25:00,772 --> 01:25:03,852
Speaker 3: food for a long times, hours several Times's only very

1810
01:25:04,173 --> 01:25:06,772
Speaker 3: recently that humans have been able to just grab food

1811
01:25:07,253 --> 01:25:10,093
Speaker 3: anytime they want. And so what you're saying is if

1812
01:25:10,133 --> 01:25:13,333
Speaker 3: you're just eating the whole time, your body really needs

1813
01:25:13,652 --> 01:25:15,412
Speaker 3: never gets the chance to deal with it at a

1814
01:25:15,492 --> 01:25:16,173
Speaker 3: cellular level.

1815
01:25:17,253 --> 01:25:17,612
Speaker 23: Totally.

1816
01:25:17,853 --> 01:25:18,053
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1817
01:25:18,452 --> 01:25:22,812
Speaker 35: And the other thing is is it's no, that's just

1818
01:25:22,853 --> 01:25:23,652
Speaker 35: gone out of my head.

1819
01:25:24,732 --> 01:25:25,852
Speaker 3: What Emma, what?

1820
01:25:25,893 --> 01:25:25,933
Speaker 20: What?

1821
01:25:26,173 --> 01:25:26,213
Speaker 13: What?

1822
01:25:26,412 --> 01:25:28,692
Speaker 3: What is your what is your regime? Your internet for

1823
01:25:29,213 --> 01:25:32,532
Speaker 3: your intimate at fasting regime? Because Bruce Springsteen's come out

1824
01:25:32,572 --> 01:25:34,892
Speaker 3: this week and said that he's only eating once a day,

1825
01:25:35,013 --> 01:25:35,732
Speaker 3: Is that what you're doing?

1826
01:25:36,093 --> 01:25:36,333
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1827
01:25:36,853 --> 01:25:39,973
Speaker 35: No, So I'm like, I eat dinner and then I

1828
01:25:40,053 --> 01:25:43,293
Speaker 35: don't eat till lunch time. You're not, and then you

1829
01:25:43,452 --> 01:25:45,532
Speaker 35: kind of you just eat normally when you're you know,

1830
01:25:45,652 --> 01:25:48,612
Speaker 35: back on your eating window. But what I found is

1831
01:25:48,652 --> 01:25:51,173
Speaker 35: when I first started doing intimate and fasting.

1832
01:25:51,173 --> 01:25:51,892
Speaker 9: I was starving.

1833
01:25:51,973 --> 01:25:54,013
Speaker 23: I used to wake up starving for breakfast.

1834
01:25:54,173 --> 01:25:56,772
Speaker 35: And now you know, after two and a half years,

1835
01:25:56,853 --> 01:25:59,732
Speaker 35: I don't get hungry at all until I'm ready to eat.

1836
01:26:00,133 --> 01:26:02,572
Speaker 35: Then I have a normal lunch and I might have,

1837
01:26:03,293 --> 01:26:05,492
Speaker 35: you know, a little snack in the afternoon and then

1838
01:26:05,572 --> 01:26:06,772
Speaker 35: dinner and it's enough.

1839
01:26:07,492 --> 01:26:10,852
Speaker 2: So you mentioned clients before. Are you a nutritionist or

1840
01:26:10,933 --> 01:26:11,932
Speaker 2: you work in health.

1841
01:26:11,772 --> 01:26:16,053
Speaker 35: How Yeah, I'm a functional health coach, so I help

1842
01:26:16,133 --> 01:26:20,253
Speaker 35: people rabbit hole. They wrote card symptoms. And the other

1843
01:26:20,333 --> 01:26:23,612
Speaker 35: thing that's really cool about intermident fasting is as we age,

1844
01:26:23,692 --> 01:26:25,852
Speaker 35: we get a lot more insulin resistant and a lot

1845
01:26:25,933 --> 01:26:30,253
Speaker 35: more people these days are getting type two diabetes, and

1846
01:26:30,492 --> 01:26:34,492
Speaker 35: intermittent fasting helps regulate your insulin levels as well, so

1847
01:26:34,612 --> 01:26:37,612
Speaker 35: there's a benefit there too as we age to prevent

1848
01:26:37,692 --> 01:26:39,412
Speaker 35: that insulin issue.

1849
01:26:40,133 --> 01:26:43,452
Speaker 3: The problem for me, though, Emma, was that when I

1850
01:26:43,652 --> 01:26:46,013
Speaker 3: was doing this, and I'm actually getting inspired and now

1851
01:26:46,053 --> 01:26:47,452
Speaker 3: listening to you to get back to it, but was

1852
01:26:47,532 --> 01:26:50,932
Speaker 3: that when I did actually eat, I was so ravenous

1853
01:26:51,133 --> 01:26:54,772
Speaker 3: at lunchtime that I would just packing so much food

1854
01:26:54,853 --> 01:26:58,212
Speaker 3: that it seemed to me that I was over calorate,

1855
01:26:58,612 --> 01:26:59,572
Speaker 3: getting too many calories.

1856
01:26:59,612 --> 01:27:04,173
Speaker 35: Anyway, what I find with my clients is that can

1857
01:27:04,293 --> 01:27:06,293
Speaker 35: happen in the first couple of weeks and it's just

1858
01:27:06,412 --> 01:27:09,213
Speaker 35: your body kind of balancing out. But it's just kind

1859
01:27:09,253 --> 01:27:13,812
Speaker 35: of setting boundaries for yourself around eating as normally as possible,

1860
01:27:13,853 --> 01:27:15,932
Speaker 35: because obviously you're not going to get the benefits if

1861
01:27:15,973 --> 01:27:19,133
Speaker 35: you are taking it all in. So I find that

1862
01:27:19,333 --> 01:27:22,173
Speaker 35: people do tend to as they carry on with it,

1863
01:27:23,253 --> 01:27:25,412
Speaker 35: they tend to eat less or just eat normally.

1864
01:27:25,812 --> 01:27:27,173
Speaker 23: Yeah, but it does.

1865
01:27:28,093 --> 01:27:31,612
Speaker 35: I mean, it's a lifestyle. Also. The other thing is

1866
01:27:31,772 --> 01:27:34,213
Speaker 35: it's not a diet for me. It's not a diet

1867
01:27:34,333 --> 01:27:36,532
Speaker 35: for my clients. It's a way of life, and it's

1868
01:27:37,053 --> 01:27:40,052
Speaker 35: just promoting you know, you to be happy and healthy

1869
01:27:40,093 --> 01:27:40,812
Speaker 35: into your IP.

1870
01:27:41,452 --> 01:27:41,652
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1871
01:27:41,692 --> 01:27:44,253
Speaker 3: So what you're saying there I was saying before as well,

1872
01:27:44,372 --> 01:27:46,972
Speaker 3: is if you're going to start something, then it's it's

1873
01:27:47,013 --> 01:27:49,013
Speaker 3: a diet that you're going to do forever. So you're

1874
01:27:49,053 --> 01:27:51,892
Speaker 3: not starting something to lose weight and try and cut

1875
01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:53,732
Speaker 3: ten kgs and then you'll go back to normal. But

1876
01:27:53,772 --> 01:27:56,532
Speaker 3: you've got to say, well, this is me now I'm

1877
01:27:56,612 --> 01:28:00,892
Speaker 3: eating I'm only having two meals a day forever.

1878
01:28:02,213 --> 01:28:02,412
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1879
01:28:02,492 --> 01:28:04,973
Speaker 35: Yeah, And I mean, and it's not for everyone. So

1880
01:28:05,253 --> 01:28:06,492
Speaker 35: you know, some people try it.

1881
01:28:06,532 --> 01:28:07,372
Speaker 9: And it's not for them.

1882
01:28:08,093 --> 01:28:11,612
Speaker 35: You know, you wouldn't go on onto intermittent fasting if

1883
01:28:11,652 --> 01:28:13,772
Speaker 35: you did have insolent issues, and obviously you've got to

1884
01:28:13,853 --> 01:28:15,972
Speaker 35: check with your doctor and stuff to make sure it's

1885
01:28:16,053 --> 01:28:19,213
Speaker 35: the right thing. But you know, for most people it

1886
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:22,293
Speaker 35: can be really beneficial for health outcomes.

1887
01:28:22,973 --> 01:28:24,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call Emma.

1888
01:28:25,053 --> 01:28:27,213
Speaker 3: Of course, doctor Michael Morley who was one of the

1889
01:28:27,812 --> 01:28:30,732
Speaker 3: biggest proponents of intimate fasting, and I interview him a

1890
01:28:30,732 --> 01:28:33,093
Speaker 3: few years ago. Of course he died this year, didn't

1891
01:28:33,093 --> 01:28:35,293
Speaker 3: he He did, Yeah, went off for a walk. Wasn't

1892
01:28:35,333 --> 01:28:37,772
Speaker 3: related to the interimedate fasting. No, it was related to

1893
01:28:37,853 --> 01:28:39,692
Speaker 3: leaving his phone at home and something happened anyway.

1894
01:28:39,772 --> 01:28:42,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, very so believed, very tragic. Quick text to the

1895
01:28:42,612 --> 01:28:44,412
Speaker 2: break then we'll pick up the phone. Calls again. Get

1896
01:28:44,452 --> 01:28:48,213
Speaker 2: a guys, great topic. I've been doing intermittent fasting for

1897
01:28:48,412 --> 01:28:52,452
Speaker 2: five years, doing twenty to twenty two hours weekdays and

1898
01:28:52,572 --> 01:28:56,852
Speaker 2: sixteen to eighteen weekends. Lost ten kilo full of energy

1899
01:28:57,173 --> 01:28:58,652
Speaker 2: laser sharp focus from Nick.

1900
01:28:58,772 --> 01:28:58,932
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1901
01:28:58,973 --> 01:29:01,213
Speaker 3: I mean, probably the easiest way to do it is

1902
01:29:01,293 --> 01:29:03,052
Speaker 3: if you do it over to night, so you're asleep

1903
01:29:03,133 --> 01:29:04,892
Speaker 3: for a lot of it. So if you finish at

1904
01:29:05,572 --> 01:29:08,253
Speaker 3: you know, eating at seven, then you don't need to larn,

1905
01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:11,452
Speaker 3: which then you can get in three plus two plus

1906
01:29:11,572 --> 01:29:13,013
Speaker 3: twelve seventeen hours just like that.

1907
01:29:13,293 --> 01:29:13,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that right.

1908
01:29:14,412 --> 01:29:16,253
Speaker 3: I think we're mastering. Might even be nineteen hours there,

1909
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:17,852
Speaker 3: I'll work out. I'll get a pen of paper out.

1910
01:29:17,933 --> 01:29:20,692
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've done INTI

1911
01:29:20,692 --> 01:29:22,973
Speaker 2: minute fasting, love to hear from you, or if you

1912
01:29:23,053 --> 01:29:26,053
Speaker 2: are a proponent about one meal a day, I love

1913
01:29:26,093 --> 01:29:27,692
Speaker 2: to hear from you as well. Nine two nine two

1914
01:29:27,812 --> 01:29:28,452
Speaker 2: is a text number.

1915
01:29:28,652 --> 01:29:29,412
Speaker 3: It was seventeen hours.

1916
01:29:29,452 --> 01:29:31,612
Speaker 2: He I was right, seventeen bang on, it is twenty

1917
01:29:31,652 --> 01:29:32,133
Speaker 2: past three.

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01:29:37,692 --> 01:29:41,372
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1919
01:29:41,452 --> 01:29:43,052
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

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01:29:43,933 --> 01:29:46,612
Speaker 3: So we're talking about Bruce Springsteen, the boss. He's only

1921
01:29:46,652 --> 01:29:48,693
Speaker 3: in one meal a day, and he says it's amazing,

1922
01:29:48,893 --> 01:29:51,452
Speaker 3: giving him the energy to stay on tour at his age.

1923
01:29:51,893 --> 01:29:53,852
Speaker 3: Text through on nine two nine two. Try telling people

1924
01:29:53,853 --> 01:29:56,412
Speaker 3: in poverished countries it's all good to eat one meal

1925
01:29:56,412 --> 01:29:58,973
Speaker 3: a day. You will live for ages. Never heard so

1926
01:29:59,093 --> 01:30:02,692
Speaker 3: much twiddle from a non health professional. So I just

1927
01:30:02,732 --> 01:30:06,093
Speaker 3: sent that person. If you're listening, this article here from

1928
01:30:06,133 --> 01:30:08,732
Speaker 3: John Hopkins University is some pretty good science behind it.

1929
01:30:08,812 --> 01:30:11,692
Speaker 3: And also, yeah, I won't try should we let's not

1930
01:30:11,893 --> 01:30:13,492
Speaker 3: ring up? Should we ring in? A popous country and

1931
01:30:13,532 --> 01:30:14,572
Speaker 3: tell them to have one meal a day.

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01:30:15,213 --> 01:30:16,492
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound a great idea.

1933
01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:19,293
Speaker 3: I don't think I think that's a relevant text.

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01:30:19,333 --> 01:30:19,652
Speaker 9: Anyway.

1935
01:30:19,973 --> 01:30:22,093
Speaker 2: What else have we got, John, you've been doing it

1936
01:30:22,173 --> 01:30:22,772
Speaker 2: for three years?

1937
01:30:24,173 --> 01:30:29,053
Speaker 14: Yeah, it works really well for me. Don't run out

1938
01:30:29,093 --> 01:30:36,013
Speaker 14: of energy I've got and helps us really good. You

1939
01:30:36,133 --> 01:30:38,052
Speaker 14: got to get us once you're.

1940
01:30:39,572 --> 01:30:41,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, and John, what's what's your program?

1941
01:30:43,652 --> 01:30:44,652
Speaker 14: I just see once a day?

1942
01:30:44,973 --> 01:30:45,532
Speaker 3: Just once a day?

1943
01:30:45,532 --> 01:30:45,852
Speaker 5: And what what?

1944
01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:46,372
Speaker 14: What?

1945
01:30:46,652 --> 01:30:47,532
Speaker 3: What time of day is that?

1946
01:30:49,412 --> 01:30:50,892
Speaker 14: Excuseually? Got one two o'clock?

1947
01:30:51,893 --> 01:30:54,333
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow? And so and so when you first started

1948
01:30:54,372 --> 01:30:57,173
Speaker 3: doing it, did you did you struggle? How how quickly

1949
01:30:57,253 --> 01:31:00,173
Speaker 3: did you get in line where you could actually do it?

1950
01:31:00,452 --> 01:31:02,893
Speaker 3: Was was when the will will came in to be

1951
01:31:02,973 --> 01:31:03,692
Speaker 3: able to pull that off?

1952
01:31:05,532 --> 01:31:09,053
Speaker 14: Ah, to be honest, avoid being able to go.

1953
01:31:11,053 --> 01:31:11,293
Speaker 9: Food.

1954
01:31:11,372 --> 01:31:12,333
Speaker 14: Some people can't.

1955
01:31:13,812 --> 01:31:15,492
Speaker 5: Help too bad.

1956
01:31:17,412 --> 01:31:21,012
Speaker 27: Yeah, no, no, yeah, I think it will trigger well

1957
01:31:21,572 --> 01:31:26,852
Speaker 27: and my house genuinely, John, generally I'm sixty three.

1958
01:31:27,372 --> 01:31:29,652
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you're doing well generally. Are you saying

1959
01:31:29,692 --> 01:31:31,452
Speaker 2: with one meal a day that you still don't get

1960
01:31:31,532 --> 01:31:33,933
Speaker 2: hunger pangs at nighttime before you go to bed or

1961
01:31:33,973 --> 01:31:34,612
Speaker 2: maybe in the morning.

1962
01:31:35,853 --> 01:31:40,692
Speaker 14: No? Not now, No, you know, look to go out

1963
01:31:40,732 --> 01:31:42,652
Speaker 14: and want to go to whatever.

1964
01:31:42,732 --> 01:31:43,013
Speaker 30: I like.

1965
01:31:43,093 --> 01:31:45,093
Speaker 14: You know you don't. I don't think you want to

1966
01:31:45,093 --> 01:31:48,692
Speaker 14: be super. I feel like having something to just do.

1967
01:31:49,053 --> 01:31:52,133
Speaker 14: But you know, nineteen the time is one one the

1968
01:31:52,253 --> 01:31:52,652
Speaker 14: other day.

1969
01:31:53,013 --> 01:31:54,612
Speaker 3: I think that's a that's a really good point because

1970
01:31:54,612 --> 01:31:57,333
Speaker 3: people do these things and then they make one mistake

1971
01:31:57,372 --> 01:32:00,333
Speaker 3: in it and then they go, you know, they make

1972
01:32:00,452 --> 01:32:02,612
Speaker 3: one variation and then they throw the whole thing out

1973
01:32:02,612 --> 01:32:04,932
Speaker 3: and go, I'm not doing it anymore because I haven't.

1974
01:32:05,173 --> 01:32:07,213
Speaker 3: I haven't kept it going. But it should just be

1975
01:32:07,293 --> 01:32:09,013
Speaker 3: a thing. If you decide to do it, will you

1976
01:32:09,093 --> 01:32:10,933
Speaker 3: do it while you're doing it? And if you have

1977
01:32:11,053 --> 01:32:12,932
Speaker 3: a meal on one day and the wrong time, then

1978
01:32:12,973 --> 01:32:14,253
Speaker 3: that's fine. Then you just go back to it.

1979
01:32:14,772 --> 01:32:18,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, John, thank you, Yeah, you go. Thanks mate.

1980
01:32:19,333 --> 01:32:19,652
Speaker 29: Mark.

1981
01:32:19,893 --> 01:32:23,013
Speaker 2: You're the same age as met you reckon, and you've

1982
01:32:23,053 --> 01:32:24,333
Speaker 2: gone through quite a transformation.

1983
01:32:25,253 --> 01:32:25,972
Speaker 9: Yeah what are you met?

1984
01:32:26,013 --> 01:32:27,013
Speaker 12: Fifty four to fifty three?

1985
01:32:27,293 --> 01:32:30,612
Speaker 3: No, no, but around that but younger than that. But yeah,

1986
01:32:30,692 --> 01:32:32,893
Speaker 3: and as the transformation around your belly.

1987
01:32:33,893 --> 01:32:37,293
Speaker 18: Nah, Well what happened was over about an eighty month

1988
01:32:37,372 --> 01:32:39,932
Speaker 18: period up until July this year. I blew up from

1989
01:32:40,013 --> 01:32:45,013
Speaker 18: like eighty six kg where I've been forever to ninety seven, right,

1990
01:32:45,213 --> 01:32:46,333
Speaker 18: and I'm like, I was just.

1991
01:32:46,812 --> 01:32:47,973
Speaker 9: I'm just unbelievable.

1992
01:32:48,492 --> 01:32:50,412
Speaker 3: So I got a bit crook.

1993
01:32:50,572 --> 01:32:53,892
Speaker 18: In July, actually got the mayocarditis, which was a bit freaky.

1994
01:32:54,452 --> 01:32:56,772
Speaker 18: And on the back end of that they said to me, look,

1995
01:32:56,772 --> 01:32:58,652
Speaker 18: you're only allowed to walk four hundred meters a day

1996
01:32:59,893 --> 01:33:02,492
Speaker 18: for a month. You're not allowed to do anything. You're

1997
01:33:02,492 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 18: allowed to push yourself.

1998
01:33:03,532 --> 01:33:04,772
Speaker 24: So I started with that.

1999
01:33:05,333 --> 01:33:07,013
Speaker 18: All I used to do is I'd drive through I

2000
01:33:07,093 --> 01:33:09,013
Speaker 18: live in Cambridge, I drive through it Hamilton to Port

2001
01:33:09,093 --> 01:33:11,133
Speaker 18: Stadium and I'd walk around the four hundred meter track

2002
01:33:11,532 --> 01:33:12,253
Speaker 18: really strictly.

2003
01:33:13,013 --> 01:33:14,492
Speaker 15: And I started off doing it.

2004
01:33:14,532 --> 01:33:15,692
Speaker 4: I lapp in about four.

2005
01:33:15,612 --> 01:33:18,293
Speaker 18: Minutes thirty and then I started to power up and

2006
01:33:18,452 --> 01:33:20,612
Speaker 18: pushed my legs, push my legs, got it down to

2007
01:33:20,772 --> 01:33:23,612
Speaker 18: under four minutes, then pushed it up to eight hundred,

2008
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:28,052
Speaker 18: then twelve, sixteen hundred. Now I'm up to five k's

2009
01:33:28,093 --> 01:33:32,892
Speaker 18: a day. So this is four months later and I'm

2010
01:33:33,692 --> 01:33:37,053
Speaker 18: eighty nine point six. So I was a fortnight ago,

2011
01:33:38,812 --> 01:33:43,412
Speaker 18: eighty eight point seven yesterday. So what I've done is

2012
01:33:43,412 --> 01:33:48,132
Speaker 18: a at all the crap. No Lolly's Frickin' lolly lollies.

2013
01:33:48,293 --> 01:33:50,012
Speaker 16: Lolly's lollies are.

2014
01:33:50,173 --> 01:33:54,492
Speaker 18: Really bad, like gummy beer, all that crap that you're like, oh, oh,

2015
01:33:54,572 --> 01:33:56,333
Speaker 18: you know, because you mumbled leg you have it, so

2016
01:33:56,412 --> 01:33:57,892
Speaker 18: you can have it really bad.

2017
01:33:58,133 --> 01:33:58,612
Speaker 5: Don't do it.

2018
01:33:58,973 --> 01:34:02,732
Speaker 18: Don't eat pies, don't eat anything processed. Stick to natural foods.

2019
01:34:02,772 --> 01:34:05,772
Speaker 18: Put butter on bread. I do this butter on bread

2020
01:34:06,093 --> 01:34:09,253
Speaker 18: because margarine's only one element removed from motor fuel.

2021
01:34:09,893 --> 01:34:14,892
Speaker 15: So yeah, I butter on bread, lettuce, cheese, ham.

2022
01:34:16,893 --> 01:34:17,293
Speaker 18: Mustard.

2023
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:18,812
Speaker 2: Sounds pretty good.

2024
01:34:18,812 --> 01:34:19,213
Speaker 24: What about it?

2025
01:34:19,452 --> 01:34:21,293
Speaker 2: Shows you?

2026
01:34:21,452 --> 01:34:21,612
Speaker 9: Look.

2027
01:34:21,652 --> 01:34:24,973
Speaker 18: But I'll make them with I make them individually, and

2028
01:34:25,093 --> 01:34:27,932
Speaker 18: I'll use the beans, the you know, the what he's

2029
01:34:27,973 --> 01:34:31,052
Speaker 18: hot beans, those mild hottened things. I use those instead

2030
01:34:31,053 --> 01:34:35,933
Speaker 18: of the mince. And I've had benefits from that, so

2031
01:34:36,053 --> 01:34:38,253
Speaker 18: I don't use the mints, use the beans.

2032
01:34:39,572 --> 01:34:39,812
Speaker 7: Think.

2033
01:34:40,213 --> 01:34:41,812
Speaker 18: Just think about it and say to yourself. They love

2034
01:34:41,893 --> 01:34:45,692
Speaker 18: fat man to say to yourself before you consume it.

2035
01:34:46,053 --> 01:34:48,253
Speaker 18: And you've got you've got what you've got to work.

2036
01:34:48,532 --> 01:34:51,053
Speaker 18: I started out, I ended up about sixteen and a

2037
01:34:51,093 --> 01:34:56,052
Speaker 18: half seventeen minutes intensive walking. We're eighteen. That would bugger

2038
01:34:56,173 --> 01:34:59,572
Speaker 18: me because you're all strict way on the track that

2039
01:34:59,692 --> 01:35:03,012
Speaker 18: your legs. Everything's kept in beautiful form, and it actually

2040
01:35:03,093 --> 01:35:06,013
Speaker 18: hurts because it's it's it's really even and you get

2041
01:35:06,053 --> 01:35:08,293
Speaker 18: the response mechanism from from the from the track.

2042
01:35:09,293 --> 01:35:12,452
Speaker 12: That worked for me, and it helped to feel like I'm.

2043
01:35:12,333 --> 01:35:14,692
Speaker 18: Gaining stability under myself and I could feel my breath

2044
01:35:14,772 --> 01:35:17,133
Speaker 18: coming back. And now I'm to the point where I'm

2045
01:35:17,173 --> 01:35:21,572
Speaker 18: allowed to push myself a little bit, not going pushing

2046
01:35:21,612 --> 01:35:24,092
Speaker 18: marathons like I think. This is an eighteen month journey

2047
01:35:24,173 --> 01:35:26,692
Speaker 18: for me from where i was in July with the

2048
01:35:26,933 --> 01:35:29,772
Speaker 18: heart and thing that I've got to take my time

2049
01:35:29,933 --> 01:35:33,692
Speaker 18: slowly to build up that capital in the bank for

2050
01:35:33,812 --> 01:35:37,572
Speaker 18: myself and also get that habit change as well. So

2051
01:35:38,213 --> 01:35:39,852
Speaker 18: this year I've gotten rid of a lot of things

2052
01:35:39,893 --> 01:35:42,253
Speaker 18: that I'd normally do in summer because I said to myself,

2053
01:35:42,293 --> 01:35:44,293
Speaker 18: not doing gardening. I'm just going to focus on my

2054
01:35:44,412 --> 01:35:45,572
Speaker 18: exercise every day.

2055
01:35:46,893 --> 01:35:49,412
Speaker 3: Got on your mark. And that's interesting we say about

2056
01:35:49,853 --> 01:35:52,253
Speaker 3: concentrating on your eating because another thing that's really really

2057
01:35:52,293 --> 01:35:55,293
Speaker 3: good as mindful leading. So instead of just throwing food

2058
01:35:55,372 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 3: down your throat when you start to eat, if you

2059
01:35:57,333 --> 01:35:59,652
Speaker 3: slow down and you try and think about every mouthful,

2060
01:35:59,732 --> 01:36:02,932
Speaker 3: think about everything you put into your mouth, that's that's

2061
01:36:02,973 --> 01:36:05,692
Speaker 3: a huge way to stop eating so much, and I've

2062
01:36:05,692 --> 01:36:07,133
Speaker 3: got to get back to doing that because that was

2063
01:36:07,173 --> 01:36:09,013
Speaker 3: the thing that worked the best for me back back

2064
01:36:09,053 --> 01:36:09,412
Speaker 3: in the day.

2065
01:36:09,532 --> 01:36:11,572
Speaker 2: Game Changer, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

2066
01:36:11,572 --> 01:36:13,692
Speaker 2: the number to call love to hear from you if

2067
01:36:13,732 --> 01:36:17,572
Speaker 2: you're into intimate fasting. All this o mad diets this.

2068
01:36:17,692 --> 01:36:20,213
Speaker 3: Texas says, I'm into intermittent fasting. When I'm at home,

2069
01:36:20,293 --> 01:36:22,452
Speaker 3: I only eat every three to four minutes. Then I

2070
01:36:22,492 --> 01:36:24,772
Speaker 3: scroll YouTube look at hot chicks, some of which I

2071
01:36:24,812 --> 01:36:27,133
Speaker 3: show to my wife, some I don't. So that's adds

2072
01:36:27,133 --> 01:36:28,093
Speaker 3: to the conversation as well.

2073
01:36:28,133 --> 01:36:29,892
Speaker 2: It sounds like a good time. It is twenty nine

2074
01:36:29,933 --> 01:36:30,412
Speaker 2: past three.

2075
01:36:33,372 --> 01:36:37,013
Speaker 13: You talk saidby headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no

2076
01:36:37,213 --> 01:36:40,892
Speaker 13: trouble with a blue bubble. Parliament's grounds are clearing after

2077
01:36:41,013 --> 01:36:45,652
Speaker 13: marches into Hikoi moret Teti handed over a petition signed

2078
01:36:45,732 --> 01:36:49,652
Speaker 13: by over two hundred thousand people. An estimated thirty five

2079
01:36:49,732 --> 01:36:54,293
Speaker 13: thousand people flooded central Wellington today protesting the Treaty Principles Bill,

2080
01:36:54,612 --> 01:36:58,093
Speaker 13: which passed its first reading last week. Tabati Marti and

2081
01:36:58,173 --> 01:37:01,372
Speaker 13: Peta Kuta Ferris says this is the response to an

2082
01:37:01,452 --> 01:37:05,412
Speaker 13: anti Mardi government which Mary have come too far to accept.

2083
01:37:05,572 --> 01:37:07,972
Speaker 28: I know this whole heckoy has been about our children,

2084
01:37:08,053 --> 01:37:11,053
Speaker 28: our grandchildren and our old people, and I see them

2085
01:37:11,133 --> 01:37:11,692
Speaker 28: all here today.

2086
01:37:12,013 --> 01:37:13,172
Speaker 2: So kuckaha.

2087
01:37:13,652 --> 01:37:16,852
Speaker 13: The Speaker has asked opposition MPs who joined last week's

2088
01:37:16,893 --> 01:37:20,173
Speaker 13: hucker during the reading of the bill in Parliament to

2089
01:37:20,333 --> 01:37:23,412
Speaker 13: respond to him this week before he decides whether to

2090
01:37:23,492 --> 01:37:27,772
Speaker 13: refer them to the Privileges Committee. Stuff is reporting a

2091
01:37:27,812 --> 01:37:31,372
Speaker 13: commercial diver has died after a shark attack near the

2092
01:37:31,452 --> 01:37:34,692
Speaker 13: Chatham Islands this morning, after being brought to White Tonguey

2093
01:37:34,772 --> 01:37:39,812
Speaker 13: Wolf with severe injuries. Olympic Growing champion Eric Murray's spoken

2094
01:37:39,893 --> 01:37:43,852
Speaker 13: at the Coronial inquest into the death of cyclist Olivia Podmore,

2095
01:37:43,893 --> 01:37:47,492
Speaker 13: who he meantaught could Donald Trump rarely stay in the

2096
01:37:47,572 --> 01:37:51,493
Speaker 13: White House beyond his next term? Like he keeps suggesting.

2097
01:37:51,893 --> 01:37:54,812
Speaker 13: You can find out more at enzid Herald Premium. Back

2098
01:37:54,893 --> 01:37:56,572
Speaker 13: now to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2099
01:37:56,772 --> 01:37:58,572
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We're talking about this so

2100
01:37:58,732 --> 01:38:01,973
Speaker 2: mad Diert, Bruce Springsteen and Chris Martin, among others, are

2101
01:38:02,093 --> 01:38:05,133
Speaker 2: raving about it. It's when you have one meal a day.

2102
01:38:05,253 --> 01:38:08,652
Speaker 2: Quick text here, boys, I've been o madding weekdays for

2103
01:38:08,732 --> 01:38:12,892
Speaker 2: three years, super focused throughout the day. Lows have lost

2104
01:38:12,973 --> 01:38:14,933
Speaker 2: a lot of weight. Takes a while to get used to,

2105
01:38:15,213 --> 01:38:17,492
Speaker 2: but your stomach definitely will treat myself to a nice

2106
01:38:17,572 --> 01:38:19,253
Speaker 2: lunch and dinner at the weekends as I've earned it.

2107
01:38:19,532 --> 01:38:21,772
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, good on you. Well, because apparently according to

2108
01:38:21,853 --> 01:38:24,412
Speaker 3: this text here one two nine two, sir Cliff Richard

2109
01:38:24,492 --> 01:38:26,492
Speaker 3: is on the one meal a day as well. So

2110
01:38:26,612 --> 01:38:28,492
Speaker 3: all the big names just eating one meal a day.

2111
01:38:28,652 --> 01:38:32,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, you're into intimittent fasting as well.

2112
01:38:33,893 --> 01:38:35,772
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been doing it for a couple of years now,

2113
01:38:36,093 --> 01:38:40,172
Speaker 9: and and I cut out carbohydrates. I cut out potato

2114
01:38:40,333 --> 01:38:44,612
Speaker 9: and bread and pasta and all that sort of stuff,

2115
01:38:44,812 --> 01:38:46,372
Speaker 9: and I've done pretty well.

2116
01:38:47,213 --> 01:38:48,052
Speaker 2: How much of your lost?

2117
01:38:50,492 --> 01:38:55,133
Speaker 3: Wow? Wow? And so you're saying, and you're saying, and

2118
01:38:55,173 --> 01:38:57,812
Speaker 3: you've cut carbs out as well, do you have enough energy?

2119
01:38:59,812 --> 01:38:59,852
Speaker 5: You?

2120
01:39:00,013 --> 01:39:01,732
Speaker 9: Actually, I don't know why. I don't know how it works.

2121
01:39:01,772 --> 01:39:04,652
Speaker 9: You end up with more energy, and I don't feel angry,

2122
01:39:05,253 --> 01:39:08,772
Speaker 9: and I find it very easy to go through an

2123
01:39:08,812 --> 01:39:11,692
Speaker 9: evening and not worry about having a meal, even when

2124
01:39:11,772 --> 01:39:13,253
Speaker 9: my other half is making one to her.

2125
01:39:13,692 --> 01:39:14,492
Speaker 3: Yeah right, So.

2126
01:39:16,253 --> 01:39:18,133
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I don't have any problem with it.

2127
01:39:18,173 --> 01:39:21,652
Speaker 9: I don't feel hungry, and I just feel as I'm

2128
01:39:21,692 --> 01:39:24,812
Speaker 9: doing a lot, doing a lot better for myself, you know.

2129
01:39:25,293 --> 01:39:30,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go through a lot, do you throw them

2130
01:39:30,692 --> 01:39:32,532
Speaker 3: out when you get down to a new level or

2131
01:39:32,893 --> 01:39:35,652
Speaker 3: because I've done that before, I've got a gone to

2132
01:39:35,732 --> 01:39:37,612
Speaker 3: a low level, I go that I'm here now, and

2133
01:39:37,692 --> 01:39:40,293
Speaker 3: then on the way back up, I have to get

2134
01:39:40,333 --> 01:39:42,133
Speaker 3: back into the large and then the extra large.

2135
01:39:43,093 --> 01:39:46,133
Speaker 9: I've got a wardrobe from from very large to where

2136
01:39:46,173 --> 01:39:46,692
Speaker 9: I am now.

2137
01:39:47,933 --> 01:39:50,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hopefully don't go back to that. It's interesting

2138
01:39:50,293 --> 01:39:52,933
Speaker 3: what you say about the energy, but I think what

2139
01:39:53,133 --> 01:39:57,133
Speaker 3: makes us feel tired, like constantly digesting food as well

2140
01:39:57,692 --> 01:40:00,173
Speaker 3: takes takes energy and slows us down when we're actually

2141
01:40:00,253 --> 01:40:01,933
Speaker 3: digesting the food. And I think that's part of the

2142
01:40:01,973 --> 01:40:04,732
Speaker 3: reason when you're when you're not eating as often intermed

2143
01:40:04,812 --> 01:40:07,133
Speaker 3: it fasting as you do, get those extra energy levels

2144
01:40:07,133 --> 01:40:09,093
Speaker 3: because you're not having to constantly recess the food.

2145
01:40:10,133 --> 01:40:12,372
Speaker 9: I think carbohydrates definitely make you sluggish.

2146
01:40:12,652 --> 01:40:16,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, so without that energy, Poul, forgive my my ignorance,

2147
01:40:16,973 --> 01:40:19,293
Speaker 2: but what are you running on if you're having no carbs?

2148
01:40:19,812 --> 01:40:21,652
Speaker 2: What is actually fueling that energy?

2149
01:40:22,652 --> 01:40:28,213
Speaker 9: Protein, eggs, chicken, stuff like that what do you do

2150
01:40:28,372 --> 01:40:33,333
Speaker 9: for for a job, Paul, I'm sort of singer retired.

2151
01:40:33,532 --> 01:40:35,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean a lot of people are pointing

2152
01:40:36,013 --> 01:40:38,692
Speaker 3: out here on the text machine of nine two nine

2153
01:40:38,732 --> 01:40:41,012
Speaker 3: two that it's all very well for people like myself

2154
01:40:41,093 --> 01:40:43,652
Speaker 3: that sit on their ass talking all day to be

2155
01:40:43,772 --> 01:40:46,053
Speaker 3: talking about intimate fasting. But if you're doing if you're

2156
01:40:46,053 --> 01:40:48,532
Speaker 3: a trad and you're you know, you're out there doing

2157
01:40:48,572 --> 01:40:52,093
Speaker 3: a very physical job, it's it's it's quite tough to

2158
01:40:52,253 --> 01:40:52,892
Speaker 3: not be eating.

2159
01:40:53,133 --> 01:40:55,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, he care af All we do.

2160
01:40:55,532 --> 01:40:58,972
Speaker 9: Is intimacy fast and cut out carbohydrates. They will still,

2161
01:40:59,133 --> 01:41:01,933
Speaker 9: regardless of how physical their job is, they will have

2162
01:41:02,093 --> 01:41:04,133
Speaker 9: enough energy and not feel hungry.

2163
01:41:04,333 --> 01:41:07,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because you know, most trade's need to get

2164
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Speaker 3: buy in a pie, a v a vape and maybe

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Speaker 3: a gem donut.

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Speaker 2: That's a good day.

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01:41:15,412 --> 01:41:16,532
Speaker 3: Just that's the Trady diet.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly, Paul, because you mentioned though carbs, which is

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01:41:19,253 --> 01:41:21,893
Speaker 2: effectively keito, right, And I mentioned before me and my

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01:41:22,053 --> 01:41:25,093
Speaker 2: partner tried qito and I felt terrible. I felt like

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01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:26,772
Speaker 2: the joy had been sucked out of my life. But

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01:41:26,853 --> 01:41:29,333
Speaker 2: I honestly felt so title the time. Did I not

2173
01:41:29,532 --> 01:41:30,612
Speaker 2: just not do it for long enough?

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Speaker 9: You didn't you didn't get past that period of you

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01:41:35,452 --> 01:41:38,213
Speaker 9: You get to a point with Keto where you just

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01:41:38,293 --> 01:41:39,892
Speaker 9: sort of end up on a kind of a high,

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01:41:40,053 --> 01:41:43,532
Speaker 9: you know, yeah, right, and you just feel great. And

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01:41:43,652 --> 01:41:46,053
Speaker 9: then because you feel great, you're even more committed to

2179
01:41:46,173 --> 01:41:48,892
Speaker 9: doing it, you know, and then after a period of time,

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01:41:48,933 --> 01:41:49,532
Speaker 9: it becomes.

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01:41:49,333 --> 01:41:49,892
Speaker 24: A way of light.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I mean, should I really like mess potatoes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing in this text to here. I know,

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01:42:00,253 --> 01:42:02,333
Speaker 3: two big of this stuff. I like food too much.

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01:42:02,812 --> 01:42:05,892
Speaker 3: And that's fine. If you just love food and you're

2186
01:42:05,893 --> 01:42:07,932
Speaker 3: happy with the way it is, then you be you. Yeah,

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01:42:08,853 --> 01:42:11,772
Speaker 3: that's fine. And also you get some people that just

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01:42:11,772 --> 01:42:13,412
Speaker 3: seemed to be able to pilot through the system and

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01:42:13,452 --> 01:42:14,452
Speaker 3: they're sweet ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know.

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01:42:15,333 --> 01:42:18,133
Speaker 3: But me, boy, oh boy, I'm a yo yo. I'm

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01:42:18,452 --> 01:42:21,252
Speaker 3: I'm yo yoing about fifteen kg's up and down constantly.

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01:42:21,652 --> 01:42:24,732
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:42:24,853 --> 01:42:26,612
Speaker 2: It is twenty three minutes to four.

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01:42:28,173 --> 01:42:28,692
Speaker 14: He's done.

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01:42:28,772 --> 01:42:32,452
Speaker 1: New take on talk bag man Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

2197
01:42:32,652 --> 01:42:35,972
Speaker 1: have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talks.

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Speaker 24: There'd be.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking about look a lot of people. You've

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01:42:41,612 --> 01:42:44,093
Speaker 3: got Chris Martin, a lot of rock stars. You've got

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01:42:44,173 --> 01:42:48,772
Speaker 3: Bruce Springsteen, We've got some other guy. I've forgot Cliff Richard.

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01:42:48,853 --> 01:42:51,333
Speaker 3: I need him once a day. And also remember reading

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01:42:51,492 --> 01:42:53,333
Speaker 3: about I know he's not the healthiest looking guy, but

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01:42:53,452 --> 01:42:55,532
Speaker 3: Keith Richards, I on, he EAT's about every two days

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01:42:55,612 --> 01:42:58,772
Speaker 3: and it's a shepherd's pie. Some pep someone s here saying,

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01:42:58,812 --> 01:43:01,372
Speaker 3: all your people on diets is too lazy to excise.

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01:43:01,452 --> 01:43:04,612
Speaker 3: Look at the weight they can lose when you walk

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01:43:04,732 --> 01:43:06,532
Speaker 3: or run it off. I don't know about that. I

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01:43:06,652 --> 01:43:08,572
Speaker 3: reckon you have to run and walk a long long

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01:43:08,652 --> 01:43:10,572
Speaker 3: way to get off the amount of food that you're

2211
01:43:11,013 --> 01:43:13,133
Speaker 3: putting in there. I think to lose weight, you need

2212
01:43:13,213 --> 01:43:16,053
Speaker 3: to do exercise and you need to eat less. I

2213
01:43:16,133 --> 01:43:22,092
Speaker 3: think that's that's that's it's the eighty twenty Yeah, something

2214
01:43:22,173 --> 01:43:24,333
Speaker 3: like that between between the effect on you.

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01:43:24,532 --> 01:43:26,093
Speaker 2: I tried to put it to the test where I

2216
01:43:26,173 --> 01:43:28,492
Speaker 2: went for a hike for a week and was eating

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01:43:28,572 --> 01:43:31,892
Speaker 2: pretty well. I thought, right, I'm walking eight hours a day,

2218
01:43:32,053 --> 01:43:34,053
Speaker 2: how much weight am I going to lose over the week?

2219
01:43:34,492 --> 01:43:37,333
Speaker 2: And I lost less than a kilo. Yeah, so and

2220
01:43:37,452 --> 01:43:39,133
Speaker 2: that's a lot of walking eight hours a day for

2221
01:43:39,213 --> 01:43:39,452
Speaker 2: a week.

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01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:41,732
Speaker 3: Well, look at me. I mean I ran, I went

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01:43:41,772 --> 01:43:44,692
Speaker 3: for a half hour run today, but then I just

2224
01:43:45,133 --> 01:43:46,772
Speaker 3: what was I eating there? I was eating some cake there,

2225
01:43:46,812 --> 01:43:49,013
Speaker 3: So that that's on me. There was a text here

2226
01:43:49,133 --> 01:43:50,772
Speaker 3: that I've just sort of missed, but it was talking

2227
01:43:50,812 --> 01:43:55,012
Speaker 3: about all you people, was it. It was basically saying

2228
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:56,812
Speaker 3: there so many texts coming through and so many calls

2229
01:43:56,853 --> 01:43:59,372
Speaker 3: coming through, but it was sort of saying, we don't

2230
01:43:59,412 --> 01:44:01,213
Speaker 3: need any of these kind of diets. Look at our

2231
01:44:01,253 --> 01:44:04,892
Speaker 3: grandparents because they were they were so thin. But that's

2232
01:44:05,053 --> 01:44:06,933
Speaker 3: that's the thing. The food was different and it was

2233
01:44:06,973 --> 01:44:09,372
Speaker 3: harder to get and people were just more active back

2234
01:44:09,412 --> 01:44:10,933
Speaker 3: in the day. I mean, I was even reading this

2235
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:14,372
Speaker 3: article about how having a remote control is really affecting

2236
01:44:14,412 --> 01:44:17,213
Speaker 3: people because people just sit still and they watch TV

2237
01:44:17,293 --> 01:44:19,372
Speaker 3: and they go into a sedentary state. They don't even

2238
01:44:19,372 --> 01:44:21,333
Speaker 3: get up to change their channels. For the longest time,

2239
01:44:21,412 --> 01:44:22,973
Speaker 3: for our parents, they at least had to get up

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01:44:23,013 --> 01:44:25,452
Speaker 3: and change the channel. And now people are just sitting

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01:44:25,492 --> 01:44:29,333
Speaker 3: watching Netflix on their laptops and just getting in a

2242
01:44:29,452 --> 01:44:32,253
Speaker 3: complete vegetative state for hours and hours in the evening.

2243
01:44:32,853 --> 01:44:36,492
Speaker 2: Andy, you've lost a lot of weights with what is

2244
01:44:36,532 --> 01:44:37,452
Speaker 2: it inter minute fasting.

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01:44:39,452 --> 01:44:42,452
Speaker 20: No, it's got an interesting journey actually. So at the

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01:44:42,452 --> 01:44:46,213
Speaker 20: beginning of the year, I decided to do the calorie counting.

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01:44:47,572 --> 01:44:51,572
Speaker 20: Thanks and oh yeah, it's about one hundred kilos. The

2248
01:44:51,652 --> 01:44:54,572
Speaker 20: Samsung and the iPhones like a healthcare on them. If

2249
01:44:54,572 --> 01:44:57,773
Speaker 20: you could punch themat putting your mouth in, it calculates

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Speaker 20: it all. So I decided if I hob it around

2251
01:45:00,412 --> 01:45:03,532
Speaker 20: sixteen hundred to two thousand calories a day, I should

2252
01:45:03,612 --> 01:45:05,053
Speaker 20: drop a little bit of weight for a man of

2253
01:45:05,133 --> 01:45:07,572
Speaker 20: my orage. Because you bought me users it had a

2254
01:45:07,612 --> 01:45:11,812
Speaker 20: thousand just the brain and the bubble was just normally breathing. Anyway,

2255
01:45:11,853 --> 01:45:13,333
Speaker 20: I had a long story short. I went from one

2256
01:45:13,372 --> 01:45:16,572
Speaker 20: hundred kilos and I was exercising up down to ninety three.

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01:45:17,293 --> 01:45:19,893
Speaker 20: Took a few months to get there, and then just

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01:45:19,973 --> 01:45:22,052
Speaker 20: recently I ended up in the hospital for a month

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01:45:23,053 --> 01:45:26,013
Speaker 20: and I was getting three meals a day in hospital

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01:45:26,412 --> 01:45:28,253
Speaker 20: and I was there for a month and lost ten kilo.

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01:45:28,853 --> 01:45:32,452
Speaker 20: Oh wow, and yeah, and they were giving me three

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01:45:32,492 --> 01:45:34,772
Speaker 20: meals a day, and what it was was now worked

2263
01:45:34,812 --> 01:45:38,213
Speaker 20: out as portions. I was yeah, right in the morning

2264
01:45:38,253 --> 01:45:40,293
Speaker 20: to give you breakfast and to be a small bowl

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01:45:40,372 --> 01:45:43,133
Speaker 20: of cereal or porridge, piece of fruit, and some toast

2266
01:45:43,213 --> 01:45:46,372
Speaker 20: of bread. I wasn't eating bread, okay. Then lunch was

2267
01:45:46,412 --> 01:45:49,412
Speaker 20: either a sandwich or a potata and a piece of fruit,

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01:45:49,692 --> 01:45:52,612
Speaker 20: and then dinner was a protein like a meat or

2269
01:45:52,652 --> 01:45:55,492
Speaker 20: some form a casserole or whatever, and two veges and

2270
01:45:55,572 --> 01:45:57,812
Speaker 20: one would be like a potato mashed potatoes like a

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01:45:57,893 --> 01:45:58,492
Speaker 20: carp and then.

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Speaker 8: A green bench.

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Speaker 20: And I was basically repeated every day and I wasn't

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01:46:02,053 --> 01:46:04,452
Speaker 20: doing anything. I lost ten kilows but in the hospital

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01:46:04,492 --> 01:46:04,852
Speaker 20: for a month.

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01:46:05,492 --> 01:46:07,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of seems like some mess of this

2277
01:46:07,213 --> 01:46:10,293
Speaker 3: list going in the that there's less going on. So

2278
01:46:10,973 --> 01:46:11,492
Speaker 3: are you okay?

2279
01:46:11,612 --> 01:46:11,732
Speaker 6: Now?

2280
01:46:11,812 --> 01:46:15,452
Speaker 3: After you is everything sorted out from that was putting

2281
01:46:15,532 --> 01:46:17,812
Speaker 3: the situation that put you in hospital?

2282
01:46:17,933 --> 01:46:23,852
Speaker 32: You sorted now wellated half so yeah, I guess half

2283
01:46:23,933 --> 01:46:24,213
Speaker 32: your work.

2284
01:46:24,253 --> 01:46:27,092
Speaker 3: Sorry, oh your thumb.

2285
01:46:28,893 --> 01:46:32,972
Speaker 20: To the super bargan.

2286
01:46:33,213 --> 01:46:36,612
Speaker 3: Oh boy, yeah, yeah that is.

2287
01:46:40,532 --> 01:46:41,253
Speaker 9: But yeah, I went from.

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01:46:41,173 --> 01:46:43,253
Speaker 20: Ninety three eighty three and now I've been out of

2289
01:46:43,253 --> 01:46:46,852
Speaker 20: the hospital about six weeks, but I'm holding around eighty eight.

2290
01:46:48,372 --> 01:46:50,732
Speaker 20: I'm going to m can.

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01:46:52,772 --> 01:46:55,412
Speaker 3: It feels good when you get into the EMSH. I'm

2292
01:46:55,452 --> 01:46:58,052
Speaker 3: comfortable in the MS. I'm currently in the large putting

2293
01:46:58,093 --> 01:47:01,133
Speaker 3: the pushing the extra large to your call.

2294
01:47:01,213 --> 01:47:03,492
Speaker 2: Andy, Yeah, thanks Andy, buying some T shirts the other

2295
01:47:03,572 --> 01:47:05,133
Speaker 2: day that I needed. I thought I was still an

2296
01:47:05,253 --> 01:47:08,253
Speaker 2: m but they're super tight, so I can't actually wear himself.

2297
01:47:08,333 --> 01:47:11,612
Speaker 2: Anyone's after some T shirts. I've got plenty there. I

2298
01:47:11,732 --> 01:47:12,812
Speaker 2: got this text here on nine two.

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01:47:12,812 --> 01:47:15,612
Speaker 3: I've eaten my fifth pie today, down from ten pis

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01:47:15,772 --> 01:47:17,812
Speaker 3: cheers from Mike, but we don't have any details about

2301
01:47:18,853 --> 01:47:21,293
Speaker 3: whether the ten pires a day or five piles a day.

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01:47:21,612 --> 01:47:23,892
Speaker 3: Dieters working for Mike Paul.

2303
01:47:24,333 --> 01:47:25,732
Speaker 2: What was the key to your weight loss?

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01:47:27,173 --> 01:47:27,612
Speaker 14: Hi, guys.

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01:47:27,652 --> 01:47:30,092
Speaker 36: So mine's again a bit of a different sort of journey.

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01:47:30,333 --> 01:47:33,933
Speaker 36: And I was sort of hovering around the sort of

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01:47:34,013 --> 01:47:37,013
Speaker 36: one hundred and twenty kg's for a while and I thought, oh,

2308
01:47:37,053 --> 01:47:39,173
Speaker 36: this is just felt slaggish and all the rest of it.

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01:47:39,893 --> 01:47:41,892
Speaker 36: And I've always liked my food, you know, I always

2310
01:47:41,933 --> 01:47:46,412
Speaker 36: liked the sort of the savories and the sweets. But anyway,

2311
01:47:46,973 --> 01:47:50,372
Speaker 36: what I thought I would just try is as water,

2312
01:47:50,612 --> 01:47:52,333
Speaker 36: and I had a hydration to the way there where

2313
01:47:52,333 --> 01:47:55,132
Speaker 36: I just drank lots of water and I've lost twenty

2314
01:47:55,492 --> 01:47:59,053
Speaker 36: three kg's over what I've read about a year and

2315
01:47:59,093 --> 01:48:03,213
Speaker 36: a half. Yep, and it's just made my skin better.

2316
01:48:03,253 --> 01:48:06,013
Speaker 36: But I'm looking and feting so good, more energy, and

2317
01:48:06,333 --> 01:48:09,452
Speaker 36: I think what's happened is the water volume. You know,

2318
01:48:09,772 --> 01:48:12,572
Speaker 36: I don't drink sort of I don't drink in big

2319
01:48:12,652 --> 01:48:14,412
Speaker 36: amounts to sort of sep water during the day, but

2320
01:48:14,532 --> 01:48:16,093
Speaker 36: it ends up being about three liters or two and

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01:48:16,093 --> 01:48:19,372
Speaker 36: a half to three liters a day, and I think

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01:48:19,412 --> 01:48:21,492
Speaker 36: what it does is depressous food a bit. So I'm

2323
01:48:21,492 --> 01:48:22,973
Speaker 36: sort of in the same sort of food that I

2324
01:48:23,133 --> 01:48:26,092
Speaker 36: was eating, but a lot of this. But I've always,

2325
01:48:26,093 --> 01:48:27,492
Speaker 36: you know, I've always had a good balanced diet with

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01:48:27,652 --> 01:48:29,293
Speaker 36: you know, meat and bite I love my beacon bites.

2327
01:48:29,452 --> 01:48:31,812
Speaker 36: But it's just the sort of weaknesses of going to

2328
01:48:31,893 --> 01:48:36,652
Speaker 36: the local serviceation bakery at lunchtime of work and you know.

2329
01:48:37,973 --> 01:48:40,892
Speaker 36: But yeah, so I'm really feeling really good, and I've

2330
01:48:40,893 --> 01:48:42,812
Speaker 36: got about six kges to go to my goal weight

2331
01:48:42,893 --> 01:48:45,253
Speaker 36: and there'll be you know, the loaders. I've been for

2332
01:48:45,333 --> 01:48:50,133
Speaker 36: probably fifteen years, and yeah, it's been really amazing journey.

2333
01:48:50,173 --> 01:48:52,572
Speaker 36: Even you my friends sort of just keep commenting about

2334
01:48:52,572 --> 01:48:55,492
Speaker 36: how well you look, and it's just quite a compliment,

2335
01:48:55,532 --> 01:48:57,653
Speaker 36: even though I haven't followed any diets.

2336
01:48:57,492 --> 01:48:59,732
Speaker 16: Or looked at any research or googled.

2337
01:48:59,893 --> 01:49:01,293
Speaker 14: You know, diets.

2338
01:49:01,572 --> 01:49:03,732
Speaker 36: I did try it fast thing a few years back

2339
01:49:04,013 --> 01:49:06,812
Speaker 36: with a make of mine and he was fasting one

2340
01:49:06,893 --> 01:49:09,652
Speaker 36: day a week and what I founders still a four

2341
01:49:09,692 --> 01:49:12,133
Speaker 36: o'clock in the afternoon. I was so hungry that I

2342
01:49:12,173 --> 01:49:14,613
Speaker 36: would get into some bad habits again in the evening.

2343
01:49:14,452 --> 01:49:14,612
Speaker 30: You know.

2344
01:49:16,372 --> 01:49:18,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you could, if you could decide

2345
01:49:18,452 --> 01:49:20,372
Speaker 3: that whenever you were going to the fridge, because part

2346
01:49:20,412 --> 01:49:22,013
Speaker 3: of the problem that we have is we eat when

2347
01:49:22,053 --> 01:49:24,452
Speaker 3: we're bored. So you go to do something, or you

2348
01:49:24,612 --> 01:49:26,412
Speaker 3: eat because there's a break in something you're doing. You

2349
01:49:26,492 --> 01:49:28,812
Speaker 3: just go and eat something. But if you could actually

2350
01:49:28,933 --> 01:49:30,612
Speaker 3: make it that you replace that with go and have

2351
01:49:30,652 --> 01:49:34,173
Speaker 3: a glass of water, then I mean basic physics. You've

2352
01:49:34,253 --> 01:49:37,092
Speaker 3: got water coming on board instead of calories, you're gonna

2353
01:49:38,133 --> 01:49:39,053
Speaker 3: you're gonna lose some weight.

2354
01:49:39,173 --> 01:49:40,812
Speaker 2: But does it go back to your mind for eating?

2355
01:49:41,013 --> 01:49:43,173
Speaker 2: Is that kind of what it's about that I bought

2356
01:49:43,213 --> 01:49:46,612
Speaker 2: a meat like nobody else. Yeah, just because I'm feeling

2357
01:49:46,692 --> 01:49:48,973
Speaker 2: a bit antsy and bored, I'll just open up the

2358
01:49:49,013 --> 01:49:49,932
Speaker 2: fridge and have some cheese.

2359
01:49:50,093 --> 01:49:52,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, cheese is the worst. That's what

2360
01:49:52,692 --> 01:49:54,732
Speaker 3: I'm always doing. I'm always finding myself over at the

2361
01:49:54,772 --> 01:49:57,572
Speaker 3: fridge and We've got the bag of grated cheese, and

2362
01:49:57,652 --> 01:50:00,293
Speaker 3: I'm just in there, and my partners always going, what

2363
01:50:00,333 --> 01:50:01,732
Speaker 3: are you doing over there? I say nothing, But what

2364
01:50:01,812 --> 01:50:04,333
Speaker 3: I'm doing is getting a handful of cheese and shoving

2365
01:50:04,333 --> 01:50:04,772
Speaker 3: it into.

2366
01:50:04,612 --> 01:50:06,492
Speaker 2: My mouth, squeezing it into a nice ball.

2367
01:50:06,572 --> 01:50:09,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because there's nothing a particular reason, just because

2368
01:50:10,173 --> 01:50:12,412
Speaker 3: you know, I've been watching some TV or something, and

2369
01:50:12,412 --> 01:50:14,452
Speaker 3: then I'll go and shove some cheese in my face

2370
01:50:14,492 --> 01:50:16,772
Speaker 3: and then I'll sit down and then thirty seconds later

2371
01:50:16,812 --> 01:50:17,932
Speaker 3: I'm back out with the cheese.

2372
01:50:18,173 --> 01:50:18,333
Speaker 30: Uh.

2373
01:50:19,213 --> 01:50:20,172
Speaker 2: Ross, you're fasting?

2374
01:50:21,452 --> 01:50:29,652
Speaker 33: Yeah, Hello, sharing my experience. I walk every morning at

2375
01:50:29,692 --> 01:50:32,092
Speaker 33: five o'clock for an hour and then sort of brisk walking,

2376
01:50:32,812 --> 01:50:38,692
Speaker 33: and then breakfast is green Kiwi and a banana and

2377
01:50:38,973 --> 01:50:41,772
Speaker 33: maybe a drink of water or a cup of tea,

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Speaker 33: and then lunch I have about one o'clock that's played

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Speaker 33: Newsley and the drip Mink and then a meal of

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Speaker 33: subset a middle of the evening about for upper five six.

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Speaker 5: And I've lost.

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Speaker 33: I was one hundred and ten three months ago, and

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01:51:01,933 --> 01:51:03,692
Speaker 33: that out of eighty still going down.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of ways in three months.

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Speaker 3: Ross, it is yes, do you think you can keep

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Speaker 3: that up for a diet like that up forever? Because

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Speaker 3: it sounds like you're having to use a little bit

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Speaker 3: of willpower to keep that going.

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01:51:19,093 --> 01:51:21,892
Speaker 33: A lot of will powers a problem when your body

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01:51:21,933 --> 01:51:25,333
Speaker 33: gets tuned. If I only drink when I get when.

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01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:29,652
Speaker 3: I feel thirsty, yeah, well, I mean, I mean speaking

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01:51:29,692 --> 01:51:32,772
Speaker 3: of drink. The drinking of the alcohol is a huge

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01:51:32,812 --> 01:51:36,013
Speaker 3: problem of people putting on weight for a number of reasons. One,

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01:51:36,372 --> 01:51:38,572
Speaker 3: you put on weight from the alcohol and the sugar

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01:51:38,652 --> 01:51:43,213
Speaker 3: in it. Secondly, if you're hungover, than any potential diet

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01:51:43,293 --> 01:51:46,893
Speaker 3: that you're running will immediately go out the window. And

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01:51:46,973 --> 01:51:50,333
Speaker 3: there's no one more ravenous for junk food than someone

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01:51:50,372 --> 01:51:51,013
Speaker 3: want to hang over.

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Speaker 2: Heck you, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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01:51:53,532 --> 01:51:55,452
Speaker 2: the number to call have time for a couple more?

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01:51:55,612 --> 01:51:56,892
Speaker 2: It is eleven to four.

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01:51:58,612 --> 01:52:01,492
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big.

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01:52:01,372 --> 01:52:03,293
Speaker 3: Trends, and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: That and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: used talk said, be would there be Thomas?

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Speaker 2: You're intimatedtent fasting?

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01:52:12,853 --> 01:52:15,253
Speaker 24: Yeah, for just number two years now?

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01:52:15,452 --> 01:52:16,173
Speaker 2: And how's it going?

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01:52:17,372 --> 01:52:17,492
Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 12: Beautiful?

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Speaker 24: How much I can't have anything well, from what I

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01:52:22,973 --> 01:52:28,412
Speaker 24: have listened to so far, people seem to restrict everything

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01:52:28,492 --> 01:52:32,612
Speaker 24: at once. What I did was, let's say, cut out

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01:52:32,652 --> 01:52:36,452
Speaker 24: your sugar and coffee for ustar and have the milk

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01:52:36,492 --> 01:52:38,772
Speaker 24: and coffee. And you do that for probably a couple

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01:52:38,812 --> 01:52:40,572
Speaker 24: of months, and then you get used to that, and

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01:52:40,612 --> 01:52:44,173
Speaker 24: then you cut the cut of milk out of the coffee. Right.

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01:52:44,532 --> 01:52:49,692
Speaker 24: Four steps. And to answer your question on where you

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01:52:49,812 --> 01:52:51,612
Speaker 24: get your caps from menu, if you were to do

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01:52:51,692 --> 01:52:54,772
Speaker 24: indim and fasting, let's say eating fruits, veggies, et cetera,

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01:52:54,853 --> 01:52:57,652
Speaker 24: Well there was carps in fruits veggies. Your protein gets

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01:52:57,692 --> 01:53:00,372
Speaker 24: converted to carps. If you need your brain needs a

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01:53:00,412 --> 01:53:01,772
Speaker 24: lot of carps. I mean a lot of a lot

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01:53:01,772 --> 01:53:06,372
Speaker 24: of glucose to run. So you definitely get your well

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01:53:06,452 --> 01:53:10,013
Speaker 24: the body won't disappoint your brain, right mm hmm, So

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01:53:10,253 --> 01:53:13,692
Speaker 24: definitely you get your ATPs or whatever glucose or whatever

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01:53:14,173 --> 01:53:17,612
Speaker 24: out of what you eat. I've listened to a lot

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Speaker 24: of science related articles and and and and podcasts and

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01:53:21,692 --> 01:53:27,812
Speaker 24: all that which pushes you to eat more fat. That's

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01:53:28,093 --> 01:53:32,013
Speaker 24: what they say. You eat more fat, less sugar, no

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01:53:32,173 --> 01:53:32,932
Speaker 24: sugar whatsoever.

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01:53:32,973 --> 01:53:37,372
Speaker 2: If you can and foe, yeah, well, thank you very much. Thomas.

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01:53:37,572 --> 01:53:38,692
Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm going to do now. I'm going

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01:53:38,772 --> 01:53:41,093
Speaker 3: to do it because recently there was a video up

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01:53:41,133 --> 01:53:43,333
Speaker 3: that went up with me telling my Coldplay story, and

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01:53:44,053 --> 01:53:45,812
Speaker 3: whilst I was listening to the words, I was mainly

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01:53:45,893 --> 01:53:48,452
Speaker 3: looking at me going geez mate, when did you get

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01:53:48,772 --> 01:53:51,732
Speaker 3: so porky? So I'm going to jump on the I'm

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01:53:51,732 --> 01:53:57,892
Speaker 3: gonna inspired by Bruce Springsteen and Chris Martin and sir who.

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01:53:57,893 --> 01:53:58,932
Speaker 2: Was Cliff Ridge?

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01:53:59,013 --> 01:54:02,213
Speaker 3: Who's Cliff Ridge? All with the one other day. I

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01:54:02,293 --> 01:54:05,213
Speaker 3: want to get back into the intimate fasting. So tomorrow

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01:54:05,213 --> 01:54:08,093
Speaker 3: I'll report back my what my weight was. I'll start

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01:54:08,133 --> 01:54:11,093
Speaker 3: you to mend it fasting, and let's see if I

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01:54:11,173 --> 01:54:14,932
Speaker 3: can get myself healthy, more energetic and less porky.

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01:54:15,213 --> 01:54:16,253
Speaker 2: Oh, this is gonna be good.

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01:54:16,293 --> 01:54:17,972
Speaker 3: I'll report back to you see how it goes.

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01:54:18,013 --> 01:54:19,532
Speaker 2: Are you gonna get a nutritionus you reckon?

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01:54:19,812 --> 01:54:19,972
Speaker 18: Nah?

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01:54:20,853 --> 01:54:22,532
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just gonna do that. I'm just gonna

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01:54:22,532 --> 01:54:24,972
Speaker 3: inter minute fast. I'm gonna I'm gonna have my last

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01:54:25,053 --> 01:54:27,652
Speaker 3: meal before seven o'clock and I'll have my first meal

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01:54:27,692 --> 01:54:30,293
Speaker 3: at lunch, and that'll be it, and see how it goes.

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01:54:30,532 --> 01:54:33,613
Speaker 3: You'll probably you'll hear a sprightly bouncy, more energetic person,

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01:54:34,053 --> 01:54:38,293
Speaker 3: or you'll hear an angry, bitter, hungry, calorie to frive person.

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01:54:38,373 --> 01:54:39,333
Speaker 3: And you can judge for yourself.

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01:54:39,373 --> 01:54:40,693
Speaker 2: Do you want to set a target for how much

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01:54:40,733 --> 01:54:41,533
Speaker 2: weight you think you'll lose?

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01:54:41,653 --> 01:54:44,413
Speaker 3: Well, let's see. I reckon looking at me now, I

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01:54:44,493 --> 01:54:46,052
Speaker 3: could do with losing fifteen.

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01:54:46,373 --> 01:54:47,653
Speaker 2: Whoa, that's a big number.

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01:54:47,653 --> 01:54:49,733
Speaker 3: Ok ge. Yeah, well, I don't know. I've got to

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01:54:49,853 --> 01:54:51,653
Speaker 3: weigh myself, I'll say, and see what I weigh and

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01:54:51,693 --> 01:54:52,573
Speaker 3: see what I'm going to remove.

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01:54:52,693 --> 01:54:54,413
Speaker 2: You're on your own, man, I'm not joining you on that.

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01:54:54,493 --> 01:54:56,092
Speaker 2: I'm eating my Kentucky Fried chicken.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So maybe I'll do a weekly way in on

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, looking for it.

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01:55:01,333 --> 01:55:03,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do a Friday way in and then and

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01:55:03,893 --> 01:55:05,373
Speaker 3: see where we go. To keep me honest, people can

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01:55:05,453 --> 01:55:07,933
Speaker 3: keep me honest on nine two nine two. Yeah, and

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01:55:08,013 --> 01:55:09,293
Speaker 3: if you see me on the street, call me a

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01:55:09,333 --> 01:55:10,573
Speaker 3: porker and that will help.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Hey, thank you very much for today. That

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Speaker 2: is us. We'll do it all again tomorrow.

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01:55:17,933 --> 01:55:19,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hey, give him a taste to keep me

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01:55:19,413 --> 01:55:19,613
Speaker 3: from me?

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01:55:19,693 --> 01:55:47,092
Speaker 23: Hey, to be tired, tell.

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01:55:47,013 --> 01:55:51,613
Speaker 9: Me a little man, man, man, I gotta go well, man,

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01:55:52,013 --> 01:55:53,453
Speaker 9: do to be tired.

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01:55:56,013 --> 01:55:59,053
Speaker 13: I don't want to man, gonna take the man.

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01:55:59,053 --> 01:55:59,653
Speaker 9: I gotta.

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01:56:01,133 --> 01:56:10,132
Speaker 3: To be Lastings Good down to Pizza

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