1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Now here's something you absolutely do not need. At the 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: height of summer. People are being worn to stay out 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: of the water in Wellington, and this is because raw 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: sewage is seeping into the ocean. After a problem at 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: the city's treatment facility near the airport, the plant was 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: evacuated this morning after multiple floors were inundated with untreated wastewater. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Wellington Water Chief Executive Pat Doherty joins us Now, high Pat, Hi, 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: what happened? 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Oh, just like you said, with that heavy rain last night, 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: we had about half the flow going through the plant, 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: half going around a bypass, and then they combined to 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: go out the outfall pipe and it backed up and 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: came out into the plant onto our work site. And 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: we don't know why. It should have had more than 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: enough capacity to cope with it. I suspect there's something 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: wrong with the outfall pipe that we'll have to check. 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: A blockage or something. 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, partial blockage. We'll have to get a TV camera 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: down there to have a look. But the real problem 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: is is the damage the water has done. This huge 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: amounts of wastewater poured through the plant. We've got control 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: panels underwater, we've got electrical equipment underwater or has been underwater, 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: and we have no power because the first thing that 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: happened was all the fuses tripped out. So we've at 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: the moment got we've diverted the discharge untreated wastewater into 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: a short outfall which is only four or five meters 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 2: off the coast at Tarakina Bay, and so the first 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: thing we need we're trying to do is get the 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: discharge back into the long outfall, which is one point 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: eight killometers off the coast and screen it. We think 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: we can do that in a few days and then 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: get sludge out of our tanks before it turns ana aerobic. 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: We don't want odor problems as well. And then we've 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: got to get the wastewater out of the plant, and 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: it's so deep. We've got a scrubber room that's the 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: size and Olympic swimming pool and it's three meters deep 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: down there, so it's a lot of water we've got 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: to get out, and there's no power, so there's no ventilation, 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: which means that our guys have to be careful of 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: they're working in a confined space and we're the right 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: breathing equipment, so there's a lot to do. It's a 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: bad situation. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: So what is what is the time frame that you're 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: working with here? But like, how long is it going 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: to take you to fix this all up so you're 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: not pumping poo into the sea. 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: So we think in a few days we will be 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: able to start using the long out for and screen 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: the sewerage, which will make a big difference. 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: To screen the sewerage. 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Basically we take anything that any big bits out. 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: It's still po isn't it. I mean you're just you're 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: just taking it to one po out, aren't you. 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? And that takes us back to where Wellington was 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: forty years ago, which is far from desirable. 56 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Okay, And then how long before you So that's cool, 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's an I understand the situation. What can 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: you do? But then how long before you actually get 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: this this this plant up and running and there's no 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: more poo going into the sea. 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: Well until we get the waste water out and have 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: a look at our equipment and see how how badly 63 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: damaged it is. We won't know, but some of the 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: stuff is not available in New Zealand. It would have 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: to probably be important. We think it'll be months. 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: Months, months, does that mean that Does that mean that 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: that that people shouldn't be swimming around lyle By and 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: surfing around live By potentially for months? 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, yeah, even once we once we start using 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: the Long out For, water quality will be better. But 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: then it'll be But at the moment, we're saying stay 72 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: away from the water completely, don't don't walk along the beach, 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: don't let your dogs swim. Once we get it to 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: the long out For, I think things will ease off 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: a little bit. But we certainly wouldn't be recommending swimming 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: or fishing or shell fishing or anything like that, not 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: until we get this plant back to full capacity again. 78 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Now, look, it seems like a bit of a design fault. 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: If the thing, if if your thing fails and then 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: you flood your own system. 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: Look, we intend to do a full review to see 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: what went wrong here and did we miss any warning 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: signs and is there anything else we could have done better? 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: But if that outfall has got something in it, then 85 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: maybe we should have inspected more regularly. But yeah, there 86 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: certainly should be an overflow point that's outside of the building, 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: not inside the building. 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Lord Pat, Honestly, I'll bet you wish you 89 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: didn't take this job on some days. 90 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: It crosses my mind from time to day. 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Good luck with everything, but appreciate it. Pat Doherty, Wellington 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Water Chief Executive. Well there goes the last reason to 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: leave Wellington. I mean, look, Lyle Bay. Being able to go, 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: being able to grab your surfboard and head down for 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: a gentle little paddle of a day was like the 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: last reason you want to live there. Now there's no jobs, 97 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: just full of politicians and poe as it turns out, 98 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: So you're hi, am I to Auckland, all you Wellingtonians 99 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: if you want to, or various other parts of the 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: country that they're all awesome. 101 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 102 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: news talks. 103 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 104 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio