1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Credible, compelling the Breakfast show, you can't bess it's hither 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: embraced the impossible news togs dead. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Be morning and welcome to the show. Coming up today, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Andrew cost has given his side of the store and 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: he's trying to dump Mark Mitchell, and we're going to 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: speak to Mark after seven. We have yet more confidence 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: in next year being the year of the economic recovery 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: asb on that. What does the Netflix Warner Brothers deal 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: mean for your Netflix prices? Richard Arnold does the US 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: and Steve Price does Australia. Hey, do you know what 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: it was okay for the Prime Minister to go to 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: the IQA opening on Thursday? And it was actually okay 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: for you to be excited about the store opening if 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: you were. Because the reason I'm telling you this is 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: because today, yet again, there is a newspaper columnist cringing 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: at the fact that we fizz that hard for a 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: flat pack stores opening. And hopefully Luxon didn't go on 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: social media over the weekend or he might have read 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: just how embarrassing it was that he turned up there 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: to open the thing, and yes, look we did get 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: a bit mental over it, didn't we. I mean, there 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: may have been too many live blogs and too many 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: journalists there, but actually it was exactly the right place 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: for the Prime Minister to be because Ikea is an 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: example of exactly what Chris Luxen's government is trying to do, 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: which is to bring in overseas investment, create jobs in 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: New Zealand and get consumers spending again to lift the 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: economic recovery. Prime Minister's opening things is not embarrassing as 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: a rule. John Key opened the building I'm in right 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: now about a decade ago when he was Prime Minister, 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: and frankly, I suspect that the level of excitement generated 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: by IKEA's opening is not so much because we love 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: a flat pack, but actually because we know how rare 35 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: and opening by a global retailer is in this country, 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: because we have written the rules to make this incredibly 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: difficult in the form of the RMA. I was reminded 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: over the weekend what I had to go through to 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 2: get consent here, including having to give the local EWE 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: permission to go to access the site any time they liked. 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Having representatives of seven different Monifenua Group's prey at the site, 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: at the pre start meeting, at the commencement of earthworks, 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: and just before the complete of bulk earthworks. Because yeah, 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: prayers are really important. It took the company seven years 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: to open this shop. Now, fortunately, happy days, they are 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: Amazon for a rework that we might actually learn the 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: detail of as early as tomorrow. But for now, the 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: only thing worse than being a little too excited is 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: pornering scorn on those who are excited with good reason. 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds right, a. 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: Group of men have attached more than twenty people attacked 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: rather more than twenty people with pepper spray at Heathrow Airport. 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: A number of people having been assaulted within the multi 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: story car park at Terminal three. That what have been used, 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: they believe was a form of pepper spray by a 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: group of men who then left the scene. 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: This guy saw it go down. 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: Then they bolted, and they went through a side door 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: and up some stairs, and at that point people started 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: coughing at a time at first, and then suddenly I 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: sort of looked around and everyone in the room was coughing, 62 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: including me. 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: The eldest of Trump's children has been in Doha and 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: spoke of the fact that Donald could walk away from 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: a peace deal in Ukraine. 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 5: I'd ask, is Russia Ukraine a top three issue for 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 5: anyone in the room. 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 6: Nothing. 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 5: And what's unique about my father is you don't know 70 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: what he's going to do, so that forces everyone to 71 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: actually deal in an intellectually honest capacity. 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's annual stakeholder letter says Donald Trump's tariffs will 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: continue to make things work worse next year for the US, 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: and they're causing a lot of people to think that 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: there could be a bit of a recession. 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 7: Companies are making profits, stock markets are high, and that 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 7: can easily continue. There are a little small negatives, you know, 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 7: like jobs are weakening, but just a little bit. Inflation 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 7: is there and maybe not going down now. 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Because Mike will tell you this, I'm going to tell 81 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: you this too. The F one season is done for 82 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: step and one. The final race. Lando Norris did enough 83 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: by getting on the podium and to win the drivers 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Championship with McLaren boss Zach Brown paying tribute to both 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: of his drivers. 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 8: Oscar and Lando. 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: We're perfect, unbelievable teammates. Team did a great job and 88 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: to beat Max. 89 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 8: There's no easy feet but we did it. 90 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: And we hear from the champ himself. 91 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 9: My best performance is this year came when I needed 92 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 9: them the most, the second half of the season, when 93 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 9: I was a little bit on the back foot. That's 94 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 9: that's when I did my best and it's when I 95 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 9: showed the most of me and I managed to get 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 9: the cup. I needed to perform and do what I 97 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 9: needed to do today. 98 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: And finally and look, you de side for yourself. But 99 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I feel like this should be getting a lot more attention. 100 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: The UN has made a stark announcement this morning. They 101 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: said that the drone strike from Russia on Chernobyl now 102 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: means that the protective shield built around the nuclear disaster 103 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: site is no longer strong enough to confine radiation coming 104 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: from the site. It's no big deal now A big 105 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: renovation is needed, apparently to ensure the site's safety and 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: clean up radioactive waste from the strike. Like I said, 107 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: got a bit, don't worry about it, not a big deal, 108 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: and that is news the world in ninety seconds. Now listen, 109 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: Kiyo Starmer. If you thought his position was precarious, it 110 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: gets more and more precarious by the by the week, 111 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: it would appear there's more pressure on him because one 112 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: of the biggest unions in the UK is now considering 113 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: splitting away from Labor. This is the Unite Union, and 114 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: senior officials are reportedly and talks about whether to call 115 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: an emergency conference to vote on formal disaffiliation from the 116 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: Labor Party. And it's basically because of Kios Starmer. And 117 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: if you know that, you know the history of the 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: unions and the modern you know the current situation with 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: unions and the Labor Party. Breaking apart is a very 120 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: difficult thing for these guys to do and only done 121 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: in the most serious of situations, so it must be one. 122 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: So also say there is intense frustration with Kiis Starmer 123 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: and some Labor MPs believe Unite support can only be 124 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: won back with a change of party leader. Water Surprise 125 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: thirteen Pas six, the. 126 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power by 127 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: News talks. 128 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 10: That'd be. 129 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: Hey, if you're like me and you're hanging out for 130 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six to actually be the year of recovery. 131 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: Good news asb has just joined the queue of people 132 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: or banks who say yep, where we're in for it. 133 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a chat to Nick Toughley asb's chief 134 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: economist after half past. It's quarter past six right now, 135 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: and Greeg Smith of Generators with us. Hello, Greg, Hello Heather. Okay, 136 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: So finally we've got this Netflix Warner Brothers deal announced. 137 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 11: What do you reckon? 138 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean, is this going to get over the line? 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 12: Gods showtime isn't it? And you know, I think the 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 12: regulars are going to have this sort of work cut out. 141 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 12: But you what have we got the buying them for 142 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 12: seventy two billion. They've bet at rivals, Comcast, impairments, Skydounce, 143 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 12: the movie studio had actually put itself up for sale. 144 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 13: So what do they get. 145 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 12: The get Harry Potter and Game of Thrones and all 146 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 12: those amazing franchises. They also get HBO Max, a streaming service, 147 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 12: and that's going to be pretty interesting one for regulars. 148 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 12: It'll take Netflix as total subscribers to four hundred and 149 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 12: fifty million worldwide. There's a few things to get this 150 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 12: over the line. 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 13: They reckon. 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 12: They can squeeze out two to three billion in cost savings, 153 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 12: not surprising the unions. They're not happy, girl. They want 154 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 12: the merger block that we can destroy jobs. Cinema owners 155 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 12: of course, they're worried too. They think it's an unprecedented 156 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 12: threat to theatus. I mean, we've had that anyway, haven't we. 157 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 12: But your Netflix are trying to calm the farm. They're 158 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 12: promising that Warner Brothers films are still going to hit 159 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 12: the cinemas and the studio can still keep selling shows 160 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 12: to other broadcasters. But yeah, I think there's a few 161 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 12: big questions here, particularly monopoly concerns here. They we've got 162 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 12: the number one streamer swallowing a major arrival and a 163 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 12: top studio, So yeah, what's that going to mean for consumers? 164 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 12: Do we hodantly get more choice but pay higher prices? 165 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 12: The Trump administration they've weighed in as well. They've said 166 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 12: that they've got healthy skepticism towards the deal. So yeah, 167 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 12: it's not a sure thing. This just gets over the line. Obviously, 168 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 12: implications for us in New Zealand as well. We don't 169 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 12: have HBO Max as such, but we do get that 170 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 12: content if you're a Sky TV subscriber. So that deal 171 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 12: expires next year and benu to see how Netflix reacts, 172 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 12: you know, will they keep things as they are or 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 12: they bring that sort of content in house as well, 174 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 12: So time will tell in any case. Looking at on 175 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 12: the investor reaction, one brother shears are up six percent, 176 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 12: netflix three percent lower preps on the short term concern 177 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 12: that's overpaid. In any event, this could change the entire 178 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 12: script for the industry. 179 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Toheaver, yeah, it is fascinating. 180 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 14: Stuff. 181 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: Doesn't talk me through the inflation and what you reckon 182 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: the Fed's going to do in the US. 183 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, it looks like they're going to cut eighty seven 184 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 12: percent probability now according to markets, it's a dramatic jump 185 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 12: from a few weeks ago. So we had their favorite 186 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 12: inflation gauge out on Friday. This is the personal consumption 187 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 12: expensures in the exit the headline leve all moved that 188 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 12: to two point eight percent. That's the highest since April. 189 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 12: But in terms of what they actually care about, that's 190 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 12: core PC. That called to two point eight percent as well, 191 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 12: and that was low in the markets expected a month 192 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 12: or month it was point three percent for headline, point 193 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 12: two percent for core, so Ji was a big mover 194 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 12: stripped that out. Things weren't looking so bad last major 195 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 12: inflationary before Wednesday's meeting, so a rate cut looks lockdown 196 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 12: also comes as well, hether with US consumers I suppose, 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 12: having weathered the storm of high rates pretty well. So 198 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 12: the report showed that personal consumption outlays they rose seventy 199 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 12: billion income rows zero point four percent. And there's also 200 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 12: another release which showed that confidence is lifting, So University 201 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,479 Speaker 12: of Michigan Centerment Index that came in better than expected. 202 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 12: I suppose the government shut down that ending probably helped 203 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 12: also lower inflation expectations, lower sleeves levels since January four 204 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 12: point one percent on a one uview, three point two 205 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 12: percent on a five year outlook. So those pesky tariffs 206 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 12: have you to have an impact on prices in the 207 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 12: way many had fared. And that's a tick in the 208 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 12: box for the feed heather. So yeah, rake caut Wednesday 209 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 12: by Loocks good. 210 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: Stuff, food plight prices headed down in the right direction yet. 211 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 12: Yeah talking in flat shops have been worried about food 212 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 12: prices for a long time, have we, But they're certainly 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 12: abating globally. They fell again November according to the UN's 214 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 12: Food and Culture Organization, so one point two percent lower 215 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 12: than October, a mess of twenty two percent below. It's 216 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 12: March twenty two peak after the Ukraine invasion, so almost 217 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 12: everything fell dairy, meat, sugar, vegetables, only cereals. 218 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 8: They are up. 219 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 12: Sugar down six percent, that's the lowest it's late twenty twenty. 220 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 12: Things to strong harvests in Brazil and entire Land. We 221 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 12: know that dairy prices have been softening. Yes, they foil 222 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 12: three point one percent. That's the fifth consecutive fall, So 223 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 12: strong milk production here and in the EU. Meat prices 224 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 12: they age down point eight percent. Vegetables lower, cereals they 225 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 12: did rise, but breakfast lovers shouldn't fret too much. We've 226 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 12: got a huge wheat crop in Argentina and Ossie's on 227 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 12: track for its second largest wheat harvest as well. So yeah, 228 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 12: bear weather, prove supply chains and rising production. That's driving 229 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 12: down global food inflation and the big halves, of course 230 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 12: they're helping. Cereals are picking up a little bit. But 231 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 12: we've got other commodities of course, like copper that's still 232 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 12: pretty strong. Remind us of story that inflation isn't uniformly downwards, 233 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 12: but looking pretty good. 234 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: All right, give us the numbers. 235 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 13: So the Dow was up. 236 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 12: Point two percent, full seven nine five four five rounded 237 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 12: up point two percent, sixty eight seventy nes deck up 238 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 12: point three percent, and two three five seven eight so 239 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 12: light thats inflation numbers. Foot see that was down point 240 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 12: eight percent in the UK, the Nickey down one point 241 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 12: one percent, A six two hundred uo point two percent 242 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 12: index fifty we were down point two percent, thirteen four 243 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 12: eighty three. Gold that was down ten dollars four thousand, 244 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 12: one hundred and ninety seven. Announced oil up forty one cents, 245 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 12: sixty spots spot oa in the currency markets fifty seven 246 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 12: point eight against the US was the Kiwi that was 247 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 12: absolutely eighty seven even against Ozzie that was down point 248 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 12: two percent. British pound forty three point three upsolutely Japanese 249 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 12: en a six point seven that was up point four 250 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 12: percent this week here locally, we've got visit arrivals, got 251 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 12: some manufacturing data for November and spending. We've got a 252 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 12: games Hellenstein's West Peck and Frontier I'm sure trying to 253 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 12: trade data, US job openings, and we've got the RBA 254 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 12: rate decision as well as the feed earnings. We've got 255 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 12: plenty of big tech names coming out Oracle, Adobe and Broadcom. 256 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff great, Thanks very much, Enjoy the rest 257 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: of your day. That's Greg Smith to generate. And by 258 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: the way, the Netflix deal that Greg was just talking about, 259 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a chat to Joe Flund of the 260 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal just to unpack what is going on 261 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: there and you know the chances that it will actually 262 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: get to pass. He's with us Quarterbus seven or so 263 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: six twenty two. 264 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Love Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio Power 265 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: by the News Talks. 266 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 10: It'd be. 267 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: Listen. I sort of made mention of this at the 268 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: very start of the program, the RMA reform, and sounds 269 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: like we're going to get the RMA reform detail coming 270 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: out tomorrow. The journals are going to be pulled into 271 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: a lock up. It's a journo's and stakeholders. It's about 272 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: three hundred people. There's basically they're treating this like a 273 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: budget lockup. 274 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 15: You know. 275 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: They get all the people in the room and then 276 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: they feed them crummy food and they try to kind 277 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: of get them to absorb as much as they can 278 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: before so they start running their mouths off on radio 279 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: and television, print and stuff. I get they're gonna do 280 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: the same thing for the RMA tomorrow and then after 281 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: that shortly after that in the afternoon. I would imagine 282 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: early afternoon we'll get the details and we'll finally know 283 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do with this terrible piece of legislation. Anyway, 284 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: our prime ministers with us later on might ask him 285 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: about that six twenty five, right, big week last week 286 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: for Pete. Do you know what? We got the gremlins? 287 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: It's not me, but we got the gremlins. 288 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 14: Mate. 289 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 8: This one isn't actually me either, is the what is it? 290 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 8: It's too complicated to go into everything. It's not either 291 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 8: of us. 292 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, he's trending now. It was a big week last 293 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: week for Pete meigs Seth with the microscope on his 294 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: attacks right on the alleged drug smugglers out of Venezuela. 295 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Higgs Seth was accused of war crimes for firing on 296 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: shipwrecked survivors to kill them, and then the Senator Mark 297 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: Kelly said he's a twelve year old playing army well. 298 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: Higgs Seth said that he doesn't remember the incident specifically 299 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: because of quote the fog of war, and reports say 300 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: the president is distancing himself from his Secretary of State 301 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: so s n L of course didn't. Saturday Night Live 302 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: didn't miss a chance to poke fun at him with 303 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: Colin Joss playing HeiG Seth during a press conference. 304 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 11: Now listen up, as you probably read in some gay newspaper, 305 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 11: we're now at war with Venezuela. 306 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 8: Have you got questions for me? 307 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 11: Fine? And I'm a random fishing boat and fire away. 308 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 11: Is there any truth to the allegations that you ordered 309 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 11: a second strike to kill the survivors? 310 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 13: Uh? 311 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 11: First of all, that kind of cruel, heartless act has 312 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 11: no place in operation. Kill everybody second. I wasn't even 313 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 11: in the room when it happened. Okay, I was so 314 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 11: jacked up after the first strike I had to make 315 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 11: an emergency call to my sponsor. I'm sorry, a guy 316 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 11: a net at an anonymous meeting. If I was just 317 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 11: playing army, were there be eighty dead fishermen of NARCO 318 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 11: terrorists inventing Wheeler right now? 319 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 8: Next question, I don't know. 320 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we would probably take a pollum with a SNL. 321 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: It's funny. I'll tell you what. Richard Arnold is going 322 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: to do the US for us shortly. There is obviously 323 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: heaps of pressure on Hikesith as a result of this, 324 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: So he'll talk us through those details and look, don't 325 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: stress out. But way MO doesn't recognize kids and school buses. 326 00:14:53,000 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 16: So totally fine, no fluff, just facts and vs. 327 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 10: Debate. 328 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: Head the duplessy Allent on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with 329 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy 330 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: three news talks. 331 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 17: Head, be well, your most right, Richard Arnold's going to 332 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 17: be with us shortly right now, twenty three away from seven. 333 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: Now, there is increasing confidence the next year really will 334 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: be better economically. I know we've been saying this for ages, 335 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: but it's going to be next year. Asb's latest corterly 336 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: economic forecast is out there, calling clear signs of recovery 337 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: in twenty six consumers spending up big ticket purchases, returning 338 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: interest rates easing off. Nick Tuffley is asb's chief economist 339 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: and with. 340 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 12: Us morning, Nick, good morning. 341 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: I can give it to me out of one hundred 342 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: hour confident are you in this? 343 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 14: Oh, let's say about about about an eighty Look you 344 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 14: never you never say never, but were the seeds of 345 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 14: there look like they are starting to really come through, 346 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 14: and we know there are a few things that will 347 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 14: give a bit more momentum next year as well. 348 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: So what are you picking two and a half the 349 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: next year? 350 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 14: Well, we've got growth picking up and heading over two 351 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 14: and a half percent for a period. And let's face 352 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 14: it that after the last three years of the economy 353 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 14: literally going nowhere, we've got a lot of spare capacity. 354 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 14: We do need the economy to actually grow faster than 355 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 14: what we call it. So it's sort of usual speed 356 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 14: limit of somewhere around about two percent. 357 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Now do you I mean, we're saying it's going to 358 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: be two percent. Two and a half percent is one thing, 359 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: but are we actually going to feel it or is 360 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: it going to be you know, because at the moment 361 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: we're not feeling it in the cities while they're feeling 362 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: it in the regions. Are we all going to feel it? 363 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 14: I think we'll feel it a lot more evenly, look 364 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 14: at it still has been quite patchy, just even in 365 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 14: retail spending where we've seen some really strong growth. It's 366 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 14: been in some of the big ticket, big ticket items. 367 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 14: But we are starting to see a turnaround in the 368 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 14: construction sector, particularly the residential is turned the corner after 369 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 14: falling quite a bit and Look, there is a lot 370 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 14: more cash that we will see more visibly coming through. 371 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 14: So we still have you know, a bit under half 372 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 14: of people on a mortgage and effect waiting to benefit 373 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 14: from the really low rates. And there is a lot 374 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 14: of cash that people have been earning in the dairy, 375 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 14: red meat, kiwi fruit sectors. There's some examples, and we'll 376 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 14: see more of that flow through to the regions around 377 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 14: the country. 378 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: Look at that half who are yet to refix on 379 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 2: the lower rates. When do they like, when is this 380 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: happening for them? 381 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, it has started to really sort of build up 382 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 14: now and when expect that by the middle parts of 383 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 14: next year a lot of the benefit will have started 384 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 14: to flow through. It's just because so many people are 385 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 14: picking a floating rate or a six month rate or 386 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 14: a one year rate over the last year or so, 387 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 14: that's kind of slowed down ironically the benefit for the economy. 388 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 14: But obviously it's given people a window to fix it 389 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 14: a much lower rate. 390 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, HSBC, I had a chat to them on riter 391 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: they're picking us round actually the same as you two 392 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: and a half beating Australia at two point one. Would 393 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: you say that's about right? We're going to out before Australia. 394 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 14: We've got a good chance. And hey, look we've got 395 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 14: some figures where we're hitting like about two point seven 396 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 14: percent on an annual average, just to sort of like 397 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 14: emphasis or a little bit ahead of Australia. But look, 398 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 14: we're in a bit of an upswing after a pretty 399 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 14: tough time Australia has they sort of chugged along. But 400 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 14: the biggest problem at the moment, and I've got interest 401 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 14: rates at probably a restrictive level, is the biggest problem 402 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 14: is that inflation has been creeping up again and their 403 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 14: economy did sail on through things a lot better than ours. 404 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 14: We have to we have to sort of really acknowledge that. 405 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah too. Right, Hey listen, Nick, it's good to talk 406 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: to you. Thank you so much. Enjoy the rest of 407 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: your morning. Nick Tuley, ASP's chief economist. Listen, if you 408 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: were listening to Drive on Friday, you will have not 409 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: been surprised by what Andrew Costa said on Q and 410 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: A on Sunday, because I told you this is what 411 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: was going to happen, right that he was going to 412 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: go out there and he was going to say he 413 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: didn't do anything with Mark Mitchell's and emails, didn't interfere 414 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: at all, didn't have anything to do with him. On 415 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: top of that, the other allegation that he's made, which 416 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: is of the more serious ones, is that he reckons 417 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: that Mark Mitchell and Chris Hipkins, both of them police 418 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: ministers in order following each other successive police ministers, they 419 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: both knew about the GEVIMC skimming allegations earlier than they 420 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: say they did, and that he briefed them earlier. So 421 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: he reckons he brief Chippy all the way back in 422 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: twenty two, and he reckons he briefed Mark Mitchell much 423 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: earlier last year. That Mark Mitchell saying, which is about 424 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: the sixth of November not credible, says Andrew Costa, that 425 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: he was briefing him just in the last week of 426 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: his employment as the police commissioner. Anyway, Mark Mitchell is 427 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: going to be with us on this, and actually there's 428 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: questions about Mark Mitchell's timeline. I don't think serious, but 429 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run you through them anyway, and then we'll 430 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: talk to Mitch after seven Right now nineteen to two, The. 431 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by News. 432 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 18: Talks at be Now. 433 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: If you've been looking to move into a retirement village, 434 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: you might be wondering if you can bring your beloved 435 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: pet with you. 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Are Vida dot co dot NZ. 453 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Heather duplessy Ella. 454 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: Oh good grief, Heather. Your rapid roundup of the world 455 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: events just about had me throw my phone out the window. 456 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: You do realize half the country is up and just 457 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: watching the Formula one that was on early in the night. 458 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: It's fair point. It's on at two o'clock. Just made it, 459 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: by the way, and the phone safe. You're welcome. Spoiler it, okay, 460 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: So Robert wants a spoiler alert, so here's the spoiler it. 461 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: So for the next ten seconds, just la la la 462 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: la la la la la la. Okay. Liam Lawson eighteenth 463 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: and I'm telling you this because this is the final 464 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: F one race of the year. So that's the bow 465 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: on the thing and finished and done. He was hit 466 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: by a five second penalty, so no chance of a 467 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: time was actually apparently, I mean I'm saying apparently because 468 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: I don't watch the F one, you know, it's a 469 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: very particular person who does, Mike, So apparently he was 470 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 2: racing quite well and then the thing happened, and then 471 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: that happened, and yeah, so now we're over it, and 472 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: the spoiler alert has finished. 473 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 10: Quarter two International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance, peace 474 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 10: of mind for New Zealand business should say. 475 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: Of course commentary Boxes of us after eight o'clock right now, 476 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, US correspondent to Richard, very good morning here. Yeah, 477 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: so more details about the second strike with hegset Yeah. 478 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 19: It's ongoing. Hegscheth has skirted questions about releasing the video 479 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 19: of that controversial second boat strike off Venezuela. Critics have 480 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 19: caught that second strike against the two survivors of the 481 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 19: initial attack troubling, potentially a war crime. Hegseeth Now is 482 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 19: avoiding a clear response to questions about whether and second 483 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 19: strike video should be made public. Here's what he's. 484 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: Saying, reviewing the process and we'll see. 485 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 19: I'll see that is different from what Trump was saying 486 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 19: about this just last week. 487 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 5: I don't know what they have, but whatever they have 488 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 5: would certainly release no problem. 489 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 19: Well, Higgsayth now is doubling down on his assertion that 490 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 19: the second strike was legal and necessary. Here's what he 491 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 19: is saying. 492 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 8: I fully support that strike. 493 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 20: I would have made the same call myself. 494 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 19: It has also emerged in recent hours that this boat 495 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 19: was not even headed towards the US of A. It 496 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 19: was traveling southward Suriname, where it's believes that drugs would 497 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 19: eventually be headed to Europe or Africa, So it was 498 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 19: this a valid so called war target for the United States. 499 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 19: Republican Senator Tom Cotton argues that in his thinking. 500 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 15: It was any boat loaded with drugs that is crewed 501 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 15: by associates and members of foreign terrorist organizations that are 502 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 15: trying to kill American kids, I think is a valid target. 503 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 19: Many Democrats disagree, and even some Republicans like Senator Around Paula, 504 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 19: calling the entire operation of Venezuela illegal. Meantime, we're hearing 505 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 19: more about the twelve hours of testimony that this Admiral 506 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 19: Mitch Bradley gave him closed door sessions to lawmakers. He 507 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 19: says that US Intel had confirmed the identities of all 508 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 19: eleven people on the drug boat, so that's something we 509 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 19: hadn't heard before. The admiral says his orders from Hegseth 510 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 19: were to kill individuals on the approved target list. He 511 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 19: told lawmakers that while the first strike disabled the boat, 512 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 19: the two survivors were able to flip over part of 513 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 19: the wreckage, and that some bags of cocaine had not 514 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 19: been ejected by the first strike. The US attack teams 515 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 19: saw the survivors taking off their shirts to check they 516 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 19: had no wounds, and they say there was another larger 517 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 19: boat spotted in the area that the targeted boat was 518 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 19: supposed to link up with, but the admiral said the 519 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 19: larger boat was not on the approved U S target list. Meantime, 520 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 19: another Trump aid is in the spotlight right now. There 521 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 19: is growing talk that Homeland Security Chief Christie Nome could 522 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 19: be fired and replaced by outgoing Governor Glenn Youngkin. Nome 523 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 19: is dating former Trump aid Corey Lewandowski, and there is 524 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 19: concern about Lewandowski's growing role at that agency. Nome has 525 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 19: been trying to stay in Trump's good books by heaping 526 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 19: flattery on him, saying at a recent cabinet session that 527 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 19: this was a mild hurricane season and telling Trump quote, 528 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 19: you kept the hurricanes away. We appreciate that. 529 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well anybody would, now I can't. I mean, 530 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: it seems to me it's obviously a problem if WEIMO 531 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: doesn't recognize kids and school buses. 532 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, it seems to be WEIMO is having this 533 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 19: new issue. The self driving taxi started service in San Francisco, 534 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 19: then they expanded onto La into Phoenix and to Austin 535 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 19: in Texas. So it's a couple of thousand of these 536 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 19: things on the streets right now, and they plan to 537 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 19: move into many US cities in the months ahead. Now, 538 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 19: this problem, these robo taxis have been scooting past school 539 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 19: buses when the buses have stopped to load and unload 540 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 19: the school kids. The law here is when the school 541 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 19: buses stopped, they put out the sign. Other drivers then 542 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 19: must halt as well so they don't accidentally run over 543 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 19: the kids. Well, the Weimos have not been doing this. 544 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 19: They just right on by. There have been nineteen documented 545 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 19: cases of this in Texas. It's happened also in Arizona. 546 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 19: So now Weimo has ordered a massive recall of the 547 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 19: software on these cars. That recall will get underway this week. 548 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 19: WEAMO official v Sha Nihilani saying, however, I. 549 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: Don't think people should expect perfection. What's really important, though, 550 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: is that we're learning from all the different scenarios that 551 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: we encounter. Perfection. 552 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 19: Avoiding school kids seems like a key safety concerned, doesn't it. 553 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 19: So far no one has been killed. 554 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so far, yeah, Hey, thank you very much. Richard 555 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: really appreciated. Richard Arnold, US correspondent. Heither we're waiting to 556 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: hear how much Nikola Willis has borrowed this year. Will 557 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: she break her twenty twenty four record high amounts? Hmm, Yeah, 558 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: So this is going to be a thing. I don't 559 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: know if you're aware of this. Matthew Houghton spoke about 560 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: it last week in his column, but it's certainly got 561 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: a bit of attention from Frano Sullivan over the weekend 562 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: and her weekend column as well. Taxpayer's Union a kicking 563 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: off sometime this week, a campaign zeroing in on Nikola 564 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: Willis in much the same way as they zeroed in 565 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: on Grant Robertson for his big spending when he was 566 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: the Finance minister. It's friendly fire because the Taxpayers Union, 567 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: of they sit more on the right way if you're 568 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: looking at the spectrum to the right, so they're going 569 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: to come after one of their own basically in this 570 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: and friendly fire always hurts a lot more, doesn't it 571 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: then when it's you know, the kind of the usual 572 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: suspects having a crack at you, like Craig Greennie and 573 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: the Labor Party, et cetera. Anyway, talk to the Prime 574 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: Minister about it when he's with us after seven o'clock. Also, 575 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: the cops, I mean, life is just not getting much 576 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: easier for them. There is more trouble for the police 577 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: and the formal warnings. I don't know if you've kept 578 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: across this, but for the last four years there's been 579 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: real concern about the formal warnings. This is the if 580 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: the cops come around to here and they think that 581 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 2: you've been up to something no good, and then they 582 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: can't be bother taking ye to court. They'll just give 583 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: you a formal warning. It goes on the system and 584 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: you're kind of logged as having done the thing. Well, 585 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: it turns out now you actually have to accept complete responsibility, 586 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: like you have to say, yep, they did bad, and 587 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: then they give you the formal warning if you even 588 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: contested at all, If you're like, nah, I didn't really 589 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: do that, they can't give you a formal warning and 590 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: to have to have evidence as well to prove it, 591 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 2: so that doesn't seem like they've been doing that. Thousands 592 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: of formal warnings and it can mark up your life 593 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: job wise, So thousands of formal warnings are going to 594 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: be wiped. We'll talk to defense lawyer John Monroe about 595 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: what a stuff up this actually is. After seven nine 596 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: Away from seven. 597 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic asking Breakfast, we're the 598 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: defender and news togs dead b. 599 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 6: Hither. 600 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: I actually don't trust any of the players and the 601 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 2: mcskimming cost to saga. All are running around trying to 602 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: justify themselves. Have to be blind not to see us 603 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: through it. Well, all I've got a reason to do 604 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: what they're doing right, and it generally comes down to politics. Anyway. 605 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Mike Mitchell about it and then the 606 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: Prime Minister later on. There is now a case I 607 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen this, but there's a case 608 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: of an AI generated picture causing some proper disruption in 609 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: the UK. So they had a bit of a quake 610 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: last week across Lancashire in the Southern Lake district, and 611 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: shortly afterwards the officials over there were drawn, had had 612 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: their attention drawn to the damage on a bridge in 613 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: Lancaster and there was a photograph that was doing the 614 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: rounds of this particular bridge with all the brickwork coming 615 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: down and the railing down, and you could not drive 616 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: a train over that knowing it would be safe, so basic, 617 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: it looked reasonably major. So as a result, they called 618 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: off the rail service as they shut them down for 619 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 2: an hour and a half, sent the dudes out there 620 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: looked on the bridge trying to figure out if it's 621 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: totally fine, not a brick out of place, complete hoax. 622 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: So that's cool from the AI. Isn't at five away 623 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: from seven all the. 624 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: Ins and the outs. It's the bears with business fiber 625 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: take your business productivity to the next level. 626 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: So the results from Beavana in Wellington show that New 627 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: Zealand can really put on a good event and businesses 628 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: in the economy benefit exponentially from it. We are looking 629 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: at Wellington specifically here because this is the Wellington on 630 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: a Plate and the Beavana festivals, and they apparently brought 631 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: in ten million dollars for what is loosely described as 632 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: the culinary capital. Now that came from ticket sales, the 633 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: ten million ticket sales, food sales, accommodation costs and other 634 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: retail spending. But here's the really encouraging part. So out 635 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: of town visitor spending was up forty four percent in 636 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: September at venues that had been involved in the festivals. 637 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: Especially those that were involved in the finals and some 638 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: of the food competitions, proving that if you provide quality, 639 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: even in downtimes, you will do well. Now that's Mike's 640 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: argument obviously, and in particular it was the burger. It 641 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: was the burgers. So they did the Burger Festival in August. 642 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: People who were in the Burger Festival and did well there, 643 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Hunters went to try the mountains, came from out of town. 644 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: Try the mountain in September and if you have, you've 645 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: had the burgers there, highly recommend. Now, this is the 646 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: problem with the Costa with Mark Mitchell's timeline, right, So 647 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: Costa claims that Mark Mitchell knew about Jemick Skimmings affair 648 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: earlier than Mitch's admitting. Mitch says that he found out 649 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: on six November last year. Costa says it was earlier 650 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: this year. But now there are questions about even what 651 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: Mark is saying, which is six November, because the IPCA 652 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: told the Public Service Commission, who were the public you know, 653 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: the bosses of the public servants. IPCA told the Public 654 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: Service Commission on the fourteenth of October, who immediately told 655 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell. So Mark Mitchell might have known about it 656 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: three weeks earlier than what he's saying. We'll have a 657 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: chat to him. It was all getting very complicated. A 658 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: but still he said, she said, isn't it anyway? Talked 659 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: to Mark Mitchell about that shortly News Talk ZB. 660 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't Heather Duplessy Allen on the Mike, 661 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life your Way, News togs, 662 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: there'd be good. 663 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: Morning to you. Former Police Commissioner Andrew cost has finally 664 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: given his version of events in an interview on Q 665 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: and A. He says he never interfered with emails going 666 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: into Police Minister Mark Mitchell's office, and he says both 667 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell and former police Minister Chris Hopkins knew about 668 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: the allegations earlier than they were admitting, and Mark Mitchell, 669 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: the police Minister's with us right now, high. 670 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 21: Mitch Hey, good warning, Heather. 671 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: Andrew Costa says he did not interfere with the women's 672 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: emails coming into your office. Is he wrong? 673 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 21: Police have confirmed that that protocol wasn't put in place, 674 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 21: and it was put in place by the Commissioner's office, 675 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 21: and it's unfathomable to think that he didn't know about that. 676 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: So it wasn't put in place by him. It was 677 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: put in place by somebody else in his office, right 678 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: in his office. 679 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 22: Correct. 680 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: Why is it impossible to believe that he didn't know 681 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: about that? 682 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 21: Well, it's his office and the most senior people in 683 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 21: the organization and he's somehow and they were diverting email 684 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 21: traffic from the minister and he didn't know about it. 685 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 21: It just doesn't seem credible. 686 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, do you know about everything that happens in 687 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: your office? 688 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 21: I like to think that I do. I like to 689 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 21: think that if there's any serious matters, and certainly if 690 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 21: there was a if anyone in my office was doing 691 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 21: anything that related to the Commissioner's office, and I'd expect 692 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 21: to be fully briefed on it, know about it, and sign. 693 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 23: Off on it. 694 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 695 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: Now he also says that he told you earlier last 696 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: year than you're saying you were told you say, six 697 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: of November, he says earlier. Is he wrong? 698 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 21: There is just there's just absolute utter nonsense. So let 699 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 21: me put some context around this for you. Is that 700 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 21: the first time that I became aware of Miss c 701 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 21: that she even existed, was on the sixth of November, 702 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 21: when Andrew Costa didn't voluntarily come and brief me, he 703 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 21: was told by the PSC to come and brief me 704 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 21: on the situation between mc skimming and Miss C, which 705 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 21: he did. I won't tell you what my response to 706 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 21: him when he briefed me, but I did not buy 707 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 21: or swallow the narrative that was given to me that 708 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 21: Mick Skimming was a victim. I immediately called a meeting 709 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 21: with PSC and the solst of the General the following 710 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 21: day to bring forward my concerns around the welfare of 711 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 21: Miss C. I am a father of two daughters and 712 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 21: I have been a local MP for fifteen years and 713 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 21: part of my role is protecting people against the power 714 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 21: of the state when they put up against it, and this, 715 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 21: to me was a clear example of that, and I 716 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 21: pushed as far and when as hard as I could 717 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 21: as a minister to make sure that Miss C was 718 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 21: actually being looked after. 719 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: What made you skeptical about the yarn? The version of 720 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: the yarn he was telling you. 721 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 21: Well, it's I didn't You've got a so you've got 722 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 21: a deputy commission that centered into extra mariital affair where 723 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 21: there's a big age difference where there's a massive power 724 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 21: and balance where he created a job for a young woman, 725 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 21: then she gets discarded and then she's sort of bucking 726 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 21: up against the power of the state. I mean, how 727 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 21: could they not see what the issues lying there were? 728 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 21: But it's quite simply the narrative was poor jebbam at 729 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 21: skimming had an extra marital affair. Now this young lady 730 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 21: is harassing him. Well, why how did she get to 731 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 21: that position? Why was there a degradation in her mental health? 732 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 21: I mean, why did they not ask these simple questions? 733 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 21: And like I said to my father, I've been involved 734 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 21: in public safety and protecting those and looking after those 735 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 21: that can't protect themselves for most of my adult life. 736 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: Listen it. 737 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 21: How could they not see it? 738 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: Your timeline, though, has been questioned because when the PSA, 739 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: when the IPCA talks to the PSA about it, the 740 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: PSA gets in touch with your office and tells you, guys, 741 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: this is happening. That was October fourteen earlier than you say. 742 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 21: Yeah, that wasn't time, That wasn't any information in relation 743 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 21: to skimming on with se at all. That was quite 744 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 21: simply saying that there's a probity check underway on the 745 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 21: appointment of a temporary Commissioner and the ipcid flag to 746 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 21: the PSC, which is the right thing to do during 747 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 21: a probity check that they had some information there that 748 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 21: they were assessing and they come back to the PSC 749 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 21: and inform them of any further action, if any was 750 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 21: going to be taken. And the PSC informed me of that, 751 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 21: which is the correct thing to do. But I didn't 752 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 21: have any I didn't know the nature of the complaint. 753 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 21: I didn't know any of the details around it. The 754 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 21: PSC came back to the IPCA, came back to the 755 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 21: PSC on the sixth of November and said there is 756 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 21: now an investigation underway. And the PSC then did the 757 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 21: right thing. They came to me. They went to Andrew 758 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 21: Costa and they told Andrew Costa, you need to go 759 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 21: and brief the minister. Costa didn't come forward voluntarily to 760 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 21: brief me. He was instructed by PC to brief me. 761 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 21: And that is when I found that, so just let 762 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 21: me finish. That's when I found out about the existence 763 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 21: of the C and that's when I found out about 764 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 21: the relationship between skimming and miss C. And the following 765 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 21: day is when I called a meeting with PSC and 766 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 21: Solicitor General to bring forward my concern. 767 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: All right, Rich, listen, thank you so much, good time, 768 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: We have to leave it there, just out of time. 769 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: That's March's Police Minister, twelve past seven together for the 770 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: Unfortunately it's doo key coming from police for police. It's 771 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: now been revealed that thousands of formal warnings are set 772 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: to be wipe from police records because officers haven't followed 773 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: proper protocol for years now. Formal warnings are basically used 774 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: to avoid going to court, but there is a record. 775 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: John Monroe's a defense lawyer and with us. 776 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 22: Morning, John, Good morning. 777 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 2: Are you surprised to hear that as many as sixty 778 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: seven percent of these maybe no non compliant and may 779 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: have to be wiped? 780 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 22: I'm very surprised. Why surprised? Well, it's a pretty simple process. 781 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 22: It's similar workin to the diversion process, which we already 782 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 22: have as well. But it's simply taking an allegation to 783 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 22: a person and making it sure they accept it before 784 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 22: and accept responsibility for it before they've give them the warning. 785 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 22: And it sounds to me that that's what hasn't been done. 786 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 22: I'm not entirely sure, but by reading between the lines, 787 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 22: I think that's what's been done correctly, is that they 788 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 22: haven't got acceptance from all of these people prior to 789 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 22: giving them a formal warning. 790 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: How many do you think might have been issued here? 791 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, we know it's thousands, but thousands 792 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: is a very big range. 793 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 22: Looks it's a difficult one to put a figure on it. 794 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 22: But it's a very common practice and which's been ongoing 795 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 22: for some time, similar to the diversion scheme, and a 796 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 22: lot of low order offenses are dealt with in this 797 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 22: way so they don't have to go through and clog 798 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 22: up the courts. 799 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: What's your advice to people if they get if the 800 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: cops say to them they might give them a formal warning. 801 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 22: Resist, No, No, It really depends on the situation. But 802 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 22: if you have had a situation where they're giving you 803 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 22: a formal warning and you accept it, much like diversion, 804 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 22: then I tell them to accept it and it's much 805 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 22: better than going through the court system and having a 806 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 22: conviction on your record. But of course I've had situations 807 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 22: also where the police want to give them a warning 808 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 22: and say, look, it's all fine at all, go away 809 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 22: and you'll get a warning, but they don't accept responsibility, 810 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 22: and I say, no, we're not going to accept it 811 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 22: and either take it through the court so we can 812 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 22: prove his innocence and show that he's innocent, or go away. 813 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: Basically, John, thanks very much, really appreciate it. As John 814 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: Monroe defense lawyer. We'll talk to the Prime Minister who's 815 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: going to be with us in about twenty minutes or 816 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: so about that. Right now, fourteen past seven, ever, already 817 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: get in complaints about that RMME reform I've been telling 818 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: you about this morning hasn't even been unveiled. Dead lawyers 819 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: are now complaining they are not going to have enough 820 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: time to make submissions because the RMA detail is going 821 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: to be given to us tomorrow. Now, generally what happens 822 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: is once you've got the detail, you've got about six weeks, 823 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: and in that six weeks you've got to do your 824 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 2: written submission. And written submissions are reasonably involved, they take 825 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: a fair bit of work. You've got to get the 826 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: lawyers in, and the lawyers are not happy because if 827 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: we start the clock from tomorrow, six weeks is up 828 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: when sort of mid mid to late ish January, and yes, 829 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: still going to be in Parlaanui. Aren't you at the batch? 830 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: So you're going to be sitting there doing it. Sitting 831 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: there and yet with the cricket on in your shorts 832 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: doing your submission on the RMA doesn't sound like a 833 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 2: fun summer holiday anyway. Well ask Look, well we're having 834 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: a discussion, aren't we, about whether our summer holidays are 835 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: too long? And this would suggest maybe they are. We'll 836 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: see if the Prime ministerore do or one off and 837 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: extend it. So with us shortly quarter. 838 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: Past the Hi asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio 839 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at be. 840 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: Heather Whise the media taking costs lined with this mess 841 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 2: and not the ministers you included You know what, Mark, 842 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think the media are but 843 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: we'll deal with that, and me included. I think we'll 844 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 2: deal with that in just the tickets eighteen past seven now, 845 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: massive news out of Hollywood in just the last few days. 846 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: Netflix has agreed to acquire Warner Brothers Studios that includes 847 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: HBO Max in a deal that's worth about one hundred 848 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: and twenty five billion New Zealand dollars if it goes through. 849 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 2: It's subject to regulatory approval, and if it goes through, 850 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: it's going to make Netflix the biggest screen powerhouse on 851 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: the planet. Joe Flint is the media and entertainment reporter 852 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: for The Wall Street Journal and with Morning Joe, Are there? Okay, Joe, 853 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 2: I'm here right, Thank you? Is this if this goes through, 854 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: is this that the streaming walls are over? Netflix is 855 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: the king? 856 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 18: Well it's funny because yeah, generally Wall Street and Hollywood 857 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 18: already felt Netflix was the king. So yes, if this 858 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 18: goes through, not only are they the king, but they've 859 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 18: probably extended their reign by one hundred years or so. Yeah, 860 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 18: it's a huge deal, huge implications in Hollywood, Wall Street 861 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 18: for consumers. Obviously, as you mentioned, there will be a 862 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 18: pretty tough regulatory battle for them, but they feel very 863 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 18: confident that they will ultimately get this deal through Washington. 864 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: Do you think the response from Netflix is now that 865 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: they've got all the really good stuff on their like 866 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 2: Succession and White Lotus and whatever, that they push their 867 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 2: price up. 868 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 18: Well, of course they will argue that ultimately this will 869 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 18: be good for consumers because they've indicated that they want 870 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 18: to keep HBO going as a separate brand. And they 871 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 18: will bundle it with Netflix and that will lower the 872 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 18: costs for consumers. But of course that's the kind of 873 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 18: thing you say when you're trying to curry favor to 874 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 18: get a deal through. But ultimately, I've yet to see 875 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 18: the merger that really, ultimately is all that beneficial to consumers. 876 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 6: So you know, wait and see. 877 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 18: But they're saying all the right things now. 878 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and doesn't impact the way that they play out 879 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 2: the Warner stuff in the theaters, because that's not really 880 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: neat a Netflix's wheelhouse, is it. 881 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: No. 882 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 18: Netflix has been adamantly against the theatrical business. Now, they 883 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 18: will tell you it's not that they're anti movie theaters. 884 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 6: It's that their. 885 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 18: Anti long gaps of time between when a movie is 886 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 18: in a theater before it hits the streaming marketplace, and 887 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 18: that they're perfectly fine with putting movies in theaters, but 888 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 18: they want them on their service, you know, pretty close 889 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 18: to the same time. But they have said that they 890 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 18: will honor Warner Brothers existing theatrical agreements. And again, what 891 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 18: that means going forward when it's up to them to 892 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 18: greenlight movies and make movies, will see what happens there. 893 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe thanks so much, mate, Joe Flint. Wall Street Journal, 894 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: Media and Entertainment Report is going to have implications obviously 895 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 2: back home here because the guys who have the HBO content, 896 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: the Warner content is Neon Sky TV so all, and 897 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 2: they've got all the good stuff, the Game of Thrownes, 898 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: the White Lotus, the Sopranos, the Succession, the Last of Us, 899 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: all of that stuff all's going to come off there 900 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 2: presumably and go on to Netflix. And I don't know, 901 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: do you keep your Neon account if that stuff's off 902 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: and it's over at Netflix. 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Lance glass half full way of looking at 930 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: it seven twenty four. Now, with that Q and a interview, 931 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: Andrew Costa can probably say that he's calm down. The 932 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 2: hysteria a little bit. By giving his version of events 933 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: would does make it all seem slightly less scandalous, doesn't it. 934 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think though, that this has restored 935 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: him to being the good guy in the story, if 936 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: that's what he was wanting. Because he had no smoking gun, 937 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 2: there was no single piece of evidence to prove his story, 938 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: no piece of evidence to implicate everyone else, even though 939 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: he tried to implicate everyone else. All he gave us 940 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 2: was a he said, she said? At best, he said 941 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: he told the police Minister Chris Hopkins and the now 942 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: police Minister Mark Mitchell yonks Ago. They said he didn't. 943 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: It's up to you to decide who you believe. 944 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 6: Now. 945 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: The problem I got a text before saying that we're 946 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: all buying into Costa's narrative. Not so much. Costa's problem 947 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 2: is that he's too clever for his own good. Thinks 948 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 2: he's being really clever with his words often isn't. Just 949 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: look at the text message he sent the people looking 950 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: at appointing mc skimming to the Commissioner's job. When they 951 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: asked whether any outstanding allegations or investigations, his text basically 952 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: telling them not to worry was so cleverly and carefully 953 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: worded it had the effect of misleading him, of misleading them. Now, 954 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: short of some new revelation, I'd say that this is 955 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: the end of Costa's redemption attempt. It's two weeks before Chris. 956 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: Most of us are now more worried about buying and 957 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: wrapping gifts and getting away on holiday than we are 958 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 2: about spending time weighing up who's more likely to be 959 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: telling the truth here. No one's going to go into 960 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: bat for Costa, neither Labor nor National because he's trying 961 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: to implicate both of them in it, Mitchell and Hipkins, 962 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: And who wants to be on the side of the 963 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 2: guy who was on the side of the guy who 964 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 2: had kiddy porn on his computer. Now, sure, by giving 965 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 2: us his side of the story, he's made it less 966 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 2: bad for himself. It was a lot more scandalous when 967 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: we thought Costa was hiding emails from Mark Mitchell. It's 968 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: a lot less scandalous when we hear it with someone 969 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: else in his office and he didn't know about it. 970 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: So he's made himself slightly less of a villain. But 971 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: has he made people feel sorry for him and want 972 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: him back in the public service. I don't think so, 973 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 2: Heather do to see Ellen King, ja oh do I 974 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: want to yep? Listen. I'm gonna have to tell you 975 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: Lando Norris right, because Lando Norris is one. It's his 976 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 2: first F one championship. Actually very interesting family. So I'm 977 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: going to tell you about that when I get a 978 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: chance in the next half hour before the commentary box. 979 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: After eight, King Charles and the Queen have unveiled their 980 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 2: Christmas card for twenty twenty five. It's informal. It was 981 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 2: taken on the occasion I think of their wedding anniversary, 982 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: twentieth wedding anniversary. Just to pict it just looks like 983 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: an elderly couple strolling through a beautiful garden. She's he's 984 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: got a beautiful pin stripe suit on. She's got a 985 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 2: little white dress. Not little, obviously it's appropriate for her age. 986 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: It's a white dress, got her arm linked through his, 987 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: and they're smiling for the camera, beautiful gardens behind them. 988 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 8: Just sort of a selfie, is it? 989 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: It's yeah, what is the selfie taken by somebody that's 990 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: not quite that informal. It's not our level of informal. 991 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 2: It seys on the inside, wishing you a very happy 992 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: Christmas in New Year. Can I just say, controversially, I'm 993 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: still a merry Christmas girl. You do me, yep, do 994 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: the merry, don't worry about the happy. He's his next. 995 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: Tough on power, sharp on inside, Heather Dupa see Allen 996 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: on the mic, asking breakfast with the Defender, embraced the 997 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: impossible news togs. 998 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 2: They'd be all right, we've got the commentary box with 999 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: us after eight o'clock, but of course twenty three away 1000 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: from mate Christopher Luxen, Prime minister in studio with us. 1001 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 17: Chris, Hello, good morning here. They good to see you're 1002 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 17: working costumes on holiday. They're hustling still, it's look great. 1003 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 2: We need to talk about long summer holidays and we're 1004 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: definitely going to get to that. I just need to 1005 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: talk about Andrew Cross. Did you watch the Q and 1006 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: A interview? 1007 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 17: No, I didn't, but I did see some of the 1008 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 17: media reporting on it, and yeah, I think the bottom 1009 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 17: line is lok. The IPCA came through a pretty clear 1010 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 17: finding which was a pretty appalling behavior. I think he's 1011 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 17: done the right thing. 1012 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: Do you think I mean it is a bit of 1013 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 2: a he said? She said with the allegations that he's 1014 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 2: leveled it at Mark Mitchell and Chris Hopkins, But I 1015 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 2: wonder if he made a point where he felt things 1016 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: were a little unfair where the IPCA report didn't find 1017 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: a cover up or corruption, and yet ministers went out 1018 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 2: and basically said that. 1019 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 17: Yeah, I think, I mean, there's no doubt there was 1020 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 17: no mention of corruption at all. I might be really clear. 1021 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: About that because that's a really legal, legally. 1022 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 17: To find word. I think the reality was it was 1023 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 17: pretty appalling what happened, and there was an abject failure 1024 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 17: of leadership at the top, and the IPCA was pretty 1025 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 17: crystal clear around that. That was pretty confronting, pretty shocking, appalling, 1026 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 17: I think for the government to receive, but also for 1027 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 17: the public to hear about as well. 1028 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: Did you go and talk to humanisters about why they 1029 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: were going so hard and why they took what was 1030 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: not a cover up finding, not a corruption finding and 1031 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 2: then escalated it to that. 1032 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 17: Well, as I said, you know, Mark immediately withdrew those remarks, 1033 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 17: butt Mitchell's addressed that. I mean the issue settled for me. 1034 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 17: I mean, the big thing for me is just remember 1035 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 17: there's a young woman at the heart of this there's 1036 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 17: actually someone who's done some serious wrongdoing, and it's actually 1037 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 17: really important that we face up to that and we 1038 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 17: bring that out and we put some light on it, 1039 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 17: and we call it for what it is and are 1040 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 17: transparent about it. And now we've got to do two things. 1041 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 17: We've got to move on very clearly with the police 1042 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 17: Commissioner today to make sure we reinstate high levels of 1043 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 17: trust and integrity and standards are important and he understands 1044 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 17: that and he's doing a good job around that. And 1045 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 17: the second thing is we've got to make sure that 1046 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 17: we put this in places inspect to general for police. 1047 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 17: I have an inspected General as Minister of Intelligence, you 1048 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 17: know that oversights the intelligence agencies. We do something similar 1049 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 17: in defense. That's the strongest possible statutory mechanism we can find. 1050 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 2: What about cost to himself? Does he have a future 1051 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: in the public service? Do you think? I mean, there's 1052 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 2: obviously him trying to redeem himself here. 1053 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1054 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 17: Look I don't know. I mean, yeah, by his own admission, 1055 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 17: he just got his judgments wrong, right. 1056 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: So you're open to having him back. 1057 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 17: No, No, I'm not saying it's not something I've consider 1058 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 17: it because the bottom line is what I'm focused on 1059 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 17: is actually you know that there's no doubt about it. 1060 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 17: Police have taken a hit in terms of trust and reputation. 1061 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 17: I feel badly for the fifteen thousand men and women 1062 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 17: are actually the police force have been tarnished by the 1063 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 17: behavior of a few. I don't think that's very fair 1064 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 17: and as a result, I want to make sure that 1065 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 17: they sort it out. 1066 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 2: You haven't promised him any future jobs over here? No, okay, 1067 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: now what are we going to do about these police 1068 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 2: formal warnings? 1069 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1070 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 17: Look, I mean that's a good example where you've seen 1071 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 17: a new police commissioner come out and actually, you know, 1072 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 17: talk to these issues. And it's important that the systems 1073 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 17: obviously capturing them. But it's pretty sloppy. 1074 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: Do they need to stop issuing them? 1075 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 17: Well again they they need to obviously complete paperwork and 1076 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 17: do it the right way. Otherwise and that's about standing. 1077 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 2: You can see how this is open to abuse. Say 1078 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 2: like if you were a copper and you go up 1079 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: to somebody and you say, I'm going to give you 1080 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 2: a formal warning and the person says, like, I don't 1081 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 2: accept that I've done anything wrong. They could just issue 1082 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: the formal warning anyway how we've ended up in the situation. 1083 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1084 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 17: Look, I mean, yeah, we had an issue you know, 1085 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 17: a month or so ago around you know, people not 1086 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 17: doing police officers not filling in drunk driving. Yeah, forms 1087 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 17: as well, you know all process, probably false registration of 1088 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 17: drunk driving stopovers. So I mean, look, all of this 1089 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 17: stuff just says to me. You know, it's great, it's 1090 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 17: good that there's actually been talked about. It's good that 1091 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 17: it's out there. But you know, the challenge for the 1092 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 17: police commissioner has been the job eleven months, frankly, and 1093 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 17: I think has done a very good job of placing 1094 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 17: his executive and sitting standards a team. 1095 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: He's doing please college, all that good stuff. He's doing 1096 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: the new broom thing. But do you think we need 1097 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 2: to get rid of the formal warnings? 1098 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 17: No, necessarily. I just think they need to be you know, 1099 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 17: process needs to be properly followed as it has been. 1100 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: You worried about this taxpayer's union campaign that's going to 1101 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 2: be launched against Nichola Willis. 1102 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 17: I haven't seen it. I would find it very unusual 1103 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 17: that a taxpayers union would want to advocate for a 1104 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 17: labor led government with a radical economic agender, a taxi 1105 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 17: speed or more. Wouldn't you? 1106 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: I love that from you. I don't think that's what 1107 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: they're doing. What they're doing is they're saying she's spending 1108 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 2: too much, taking on too much. She's out sped ending 1109 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: Grant Robertson. That's remarkable. 1110 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 17: No, Look, she's doing a fantastic job. I mean, she 1111 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 17: has inherited a hell of a mess, the worst recession 1112 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 17: in thirty five years. 1113 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 2: Why not tidy big COVID. 1114 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 17: Hang of she is tidying it up, and we are 1115 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 17: tidying it up. You know, you look at if you 1116 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 17: go back and yeah, it's interesting. I've heard you say, 1117 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 17: oh you just get rid of the Pacific people sort 1118 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 17: of classic. 1119 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 2: Or whatever is my problem. 1120 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 17: But on the other hand, then yeah, we've got some 1121 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 17: pretty We've got to find billions of dollars. And you know, 1122 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 17: let's just look at it. If you look at the 1123 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 17: growth and government spending, there are actually half of it's 1124 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 17: tied into health and welfare, welfare and superannuation. Actually twenty 1125 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 17: five percent of it's actually in health, and the other 1126 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 17: balance is actually in education, where we've put a bunch 1127 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 17: of investment in, and also in financial. 1128 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: Proven up though, I mean cut the women's men a 1129 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 2: few million. That's rubbish. Now that's the third year interest, 1130 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 2: you know, the free year that we pay for the students. 1131 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 17: If you're mucking around with single millions of dollars or 1132 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 17: tens of millions of dollars we're talking about and I 1133 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 17: love that, But save the pennies you gave us, Chris, 1134 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 17: Let's be clear, you gave us a huge amount of grief. 1135 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 17: You know about pay equity, right, we supported that program 1136 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 17: at three billion dollars, name checking me, Pipkins there went 1137 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 17: bananas and actually went into the cabinet and actually blew 1138 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 17: it out. The thirteen billion. There's ten billion dollars worth 1139 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 17: of difference. And when we face up and say, look 1140 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 17: the system's unworkable and unaffordable, what happens? You go bananas 1141 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 17: alas on it. 1142 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 2: That's such a croc. I did not. I thought it 1143 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 2: was the right thing to do. No, listen, seriously, you 1144 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 2: thought it. 1145 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 17: Was it right to spend another ten billion dollars over 1146 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 17: what was planned and that's the compensation. 1147 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: I thought you guys did was the right thing to do. 1148 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 5: It was. 1149 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 17: I'm illustrating that that's the stuff you've got to do. 1150 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 17: But eastually you also will say to me, oh, I 1151 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 17: don't believe in actually lifting the superannuation age from sixty five. 1152 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 2: To sixty seven. 1153 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 17: Well in there fifty percent of your costs and superannuation 1154 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 17: and welfare. 1155 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a very long con a very long argument. 1156 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 17: I can hash back on you on that one, because 1157 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 17: I think you should reconsider that. No, you should, because 1158 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 17: I will. Here's two thousand and one. They lifted it 1159 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 17: to sixty five, and that twenty five years. The every 1160 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 17: Shuzell and mail is living four years longer. So why 1161 00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 17: can't we left it two years? 1162 00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 12: Chris? 1163 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm happy for you lift the pension age, but I 1164 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: want to see you tidy up the finances first, right, 1165 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 2: and cut the nonsense. Cut the women's ministry. We don't 1166 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: need it. Women are going toe to toe with the 1167 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 2: boys at the moment. Cut things like paying free education 1168 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: for third years tertiary students. They don't need it. 1169 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 13: Now. 1170 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 2: When you tidy all that up, then I'll go sweet 1171 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,399 Speaker 2: aut sixty seven. 1172 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 17: But if you're in our position, there's sort of three 1173 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 17: courses of action, right, So I mean, first we can 1174 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 17: carry on with the spare more tax more, borrow more 1175 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 17: of labor, and that just punches the problem out to 1176 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 17: our kids and our grandkids not going to work equally. 1177 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 17: What you're sort of advocating for, you know, and is 1178 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 17: that you can go for a super hard austerity and 1179 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 17: actually that causes huge amounts of pain and suffering to 1180 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 17: you know, lower middle income working news islenders. What we're 1181 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 17: doing is actually finding the middleway through, which is say, look, 1182 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 17: actually we've taken forty four billion dollars where the savings 1183 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 17: out of the back office. We've made serious investments and 1184 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 17: you know, nurses, doctors, education, corrections, all of that good stuff. 1185 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 17: But it's no different from what Key had. If you 1186 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 17: think about Key in twenty ten, at the end of 1187 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 17: that cycle, you know, you had expenditure of or crown 1188 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 17: core current expenditure at thirty four percent of GDP. We're 1189 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,479 Speaker 17: at thirty three percent today. It was year and year 1190 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 17: out discipline. 1191 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: Ran zero budgets, right, Nicola, And you have not run 1192 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 2: any zero budgets. You've increased on Grant Robertson's spending. And 1193 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 2: while I take your point that austerity is hard, so 1194 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 2: is debt, which is going basically tell me about it. 1195 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 17: I divide a nine to ten billion dollar interest bill 1196 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 17: the other day, and that's five hospitals. 1197 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 2: Take it to forty five billion dollars worth of yourselves. 1198 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 17: But what we're doing is actually making sure that we 1199 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 17: actually over a number of years, you do this over 1200 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 17: a number of years, as Key in English did. It 1201 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 17: was discipline over a number of years to make sure 1202 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 17: that you actually get yourself back. 1203 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: For getting ahead of our skis. Because this is really 1204 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: next week's chap once the Taxpayers Union come out. 1205 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 17: Listen, I don't think, I mean, I wouldn't understand why 1206 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 17: they'd want to come out, given they wouldn't want to 1207 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 17: advocate for a labor led government and the madness and 1208 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 17: the radical, radical economic agenda. 1209 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 2: Did you see this chap Toss Brumley complaining that our 1210 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 2: summer holidays are too long? And do you agree with him? Well, 1211 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 2: I got to be honest. For Poe Mike Hosking being 1212 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 2: holiday for seven weeks. 1213 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 17: Four months a year, I think that is isn't it 1214 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 17: like three hours a day? 1215 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 2: Lawyers are complaining that that that the RMA reform in 1216 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 2: the six weeks that they need for written submissions is 1217 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 2: over summer and it's just not long enough. Would you 1218 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: extend it for them because they need to know. 1219 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 17: No, I mean that's a decision for the Select Committee. 1220 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 17: But no, we don't people. Yeah, none. You can get 1221 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 17: your submissions in over Summer's fine. 1222 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 2: Do you think our summer holidays are too long? And 1223 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 2: it worked in the States? 1224 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 17: Well, look, I mean I just I spent most of 1225 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 17: my career working overseas for sixteen years, as you know, 1226 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 17: and in the US you maybe get two weeks and 1227 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 17: you'll leave holiday a year and Christmas is a couple 1228 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 17: of days off and then you're back at it again 1229 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 17: and your financial year ends always December thirty one. So 1230 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 17: I've always been used to going back to work on 1231 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 17: the third or fourth of January, and that's probably what 1232 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 17: I'll do this year. 1233 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it's it's taking a bit of getting used. 1234 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 8: To, is it. 1235 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 17: Well, it's just like, yeah, we've got a lot to 1236 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 17: sort out, we've got a lot to do, and we've 1237 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 17: got to keep moving. 1238 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 2: Hey, just before you go, how good was that ASB 1239 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: prediction for next year? 1240 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1241 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 17: Really encouraging. I mean there's actually been a number of 1242 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 17: really good things coming through and it's lovely to hear 1243 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 17: the media talking about them finally, which is great, and 1244 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 17: so we you look at the business confidence, you look 1245 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 17: at farmer confidence, you look at you know, tourism outlook 1246 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 17: for the summer. What's happening. So it's coming. I know 1247 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 17: it's been tough and it's been difficult, but in a 1248 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 17: two year period to actually wrestle your way out of 1249 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 17: the mess that we're in the cool thing. And this 1250 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 17: is Nerdville for you. But I was really happy with 1251 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 17: the trade balance is for the first time come back 1252 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 17: from eighteen billion deficit, that we're now exporting more stuff 1253 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 17: to the world than we're importing from the world. And 1254 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 17: that's a good sign. 1255 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 2: Look, I'm happy to call that. That is quite nerdy, 1256 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 2: but then again, that's the job. Chris listen, thanks for 1257 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 2: coming in. I really appreciate it. And urderous. Today it's 1258 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 2: Chris Lux and the Prime Minister. It's thirteen away from eight. 1259 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast a full show podcast on iHeartRadio 1260 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 1: powered by the News Talks. 1261 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 10: It'd be. 1262 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: Hither. The difference between Willis and Robertson is that Willis 1263 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 2: actually gets results to show for her spend what a 1264 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: grant deliver. Hither, the spending is not the issue, it's 1265 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 2: what you spend. It on for example, spending money to 1266 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 2: fix a leaking roof is wise rather than buying a 1267 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 2: big TV screen. Peter, Look, I think that is an 1268 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 2: that is a one hundred percent fair irrelevant, isn't it? 1269 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 2: Because I mean, go back and read any of the 1270 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 2: books that are out at the moment. The unauthorized biography 1271 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 2: of Justinda just Indo, his own biography grants autobiography. And 1272 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 2: when you go back and read the numbers in terms 1273 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 2: of the money that they will blow, it's just mind 1274 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 2: blowing that we allowed ourselves to kind of be okay 1275 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 2: with that, and then when you think about the results 1276 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 2: that we've gotten nothing for it, it's quite wild. Heather, 1277 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 2: a dollar is still a dollar, so you know you've 1278 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 2: got to start by saving one dollar. Like Heather said, 1279 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 2: look after the pennies and the pounds. WI look after 1280 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 2: themselves here the lux and needs to be assertive like that. 1281 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 2: With Hosking, that was a great interview. Actually I have 1282 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 2: to agree with that. 1283 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 12: He did. 1284 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: He did come out punching, didn't he, which was quite 1285 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: nice from him. Now I need to talk to you 1286 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 2: about Lando Norris because of course, as we say, he's 1287 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: won the f one. Interesting family. Dad is a chap 1288 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 2: called Adam Norris. If he's an entre If you're into business, 1289 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: you might actually have come across him before. In terms 1290 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 2: of reading about him. He's an entrepreneur. He's regularly cited 1291 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: as one of Britain's wealthiest men. His net worth is 1292 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 2: estimated to be somewhere in the vicinity of like north 1293 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 2: of two hundred million pounds, so he's got a fair 1294 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 2: chunk of change. Their bank accounts a little full. He 1295 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 2: made his money by building up one of the UK's 1296 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 2: most successful pension companies, Hargraves lands Down took a public 1297 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 2: retired at thirty six. How about that a retired at 1298 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: thirty six and then he founded Pure Electric, which is 1299 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: now the world's number one electric scooter brands. The chances 1300 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 2: are you got a Pure Electric somewhere around you and 1301 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 2: he's responsible for it. Anyway, he's the one who basically 1302 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 2: he wanted to drive himself, didn't have a chance to drive. 1303 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 2: God his sons into driving. There was two of them, 1304 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: Oliver and Lando, and then Oliver dropped out. He's the 1305 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 2: elder one dropped out because his little brother was beating 1306 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: him all the time. So you would now the people 1307 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 2: who moan about Lando Norris moan that of course rich 1308 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 2: daddy got him everything he needed right new tires, exclusive 1309 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 2: track time, a manager and a trainer since the age 1310 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: of twelve. But having the best equipment doesn't make you 1311 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 2: the best, does it. And one of his junior rivals, 1312 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: this is Lando Norris's junior rival, says he worked really 1313 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 2: hard and his work ethic was amazing and that probably 1314 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 2: is the secret, isn't it. You can have all of 1315 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 2: the equipment, Dad, can be as rich as you like, 1316 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 2: but if you don't put the hard yards in, you're 1317 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 2: going to go nowhere. Eight away from. 1318 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: Mate, Heather Dullen on the My Asking Breakfast with Bailey's 1319 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: real Estate news talks, they'd be. 1320 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that we need to make key we say a 1321 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: compulsory it's going to be a life changer all round. Back, 1322 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more. And also the price, Yeah, 1323 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 2: it does need to a it needs to be compulsory 1324 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 2: as what the Australians are doing. But also see the 1325 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: National Party is quite clearly going to go quite hard 1326 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 2: on lifting the old retirement age to sixty seven at 1327 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 2: the next election. Hither what do you think about cost 1328 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 2: of taking up a phil Q and a. I thought 1329 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 2: that was a good call. You think it was a 1330 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 2: good call. It was, like somebody said to me over 1331 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: the weekend, it was like a return to the good 1332 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: old days of you know, the way that that current 1333 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 2: Affairs used to be where you could really dig into things. 1334 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we can we can have a chat about 1335 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: whether we think the interview was structured in the right 1336 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 2: way and whether we spent too long trying to trying 1337 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: to prove a I just wanted to know what his 1338 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 2: version of events was like. I didn't need to prove 1339 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 2: a corruption. I didn't need to see anyone prove that 1340 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 2: it was corruption and sort of stitch them up on Telly. 1341 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 2: So that was kind of a missed opportunity. I wanted 1342 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 2: to know more about the detail from him of what 1343 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 2: he thought happened. But nah, an hour on it fair enough. 1344 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 2: You didn't have to watch it if you didn't want to, 1345 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 2: and then all the nerds could watch it. Do you 1346 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 2: want to hear My favorite social media post of the weekend. 1347 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 2: So Matthew Howson goes on Facebook and he posts a 1348 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 2: video of the Prime Minister at Ike is opening and 1349 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 2: because it's Matthew, he's mean to the Prime minister, and 1350 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 2: he says in his caption, this is so embarrassing and provincial. 1351 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 2: It's a new shop, no more, no less. And then 1352 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 2: Linda Clark, former broadcaster now lawyer, responds and adds her 1353 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: comment to the bottom and she goes totally embarrassing. And 1354 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 2: then Kathy Odgys enters the Kathy's no one to you, 1355 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 2: but I know who she is. Kathy's got a sharp wit. 1356 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 2: Kathy comes in, she goes, Linda Clark, you represent a 1357 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 2: Jevin mcskimming. I'd sit this one out. That's right, good 1358 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 2: from Kathy. Also, I wouldn't be posting on Facebook right 1359 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 2: now about anything embarrassing Linda if I was you, So 1360 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: maybe take that piece of advice for free commentary box 1361 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 2: with us. Next, we'll definitely talk about Lando and Liam. 1362 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 2: News Talks eb. 1363 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Opinionative, informed, unapologetic. Heather Duplessy Allen on the Mic Hosking 1364 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate differently since 1365 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. News Talks headb s Room. 1366 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 10: It is no wrong. 1367 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 24: No one can na brilliant dummy by catching goals, miss penalties, 1368 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 24: a red card and a clutch of yellows. Full blooded 1369 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 24: passion and a literal smorgasport of talking points. 1370 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 8: That's over of the game here at Hagley. Might as 1371 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 8: well call it come on, there we go. That've called it, 1372 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 8: there you go, I've shaken hands. 1373 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 6: That done. 1374 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 8: They're out of here and in this game as a drawer, Smith. 1375 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 2: Takes it on. Can he win around six. 1376 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 4: Heads? 1377 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 21: He's public captain. 1378 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Gland of Norris crosses. 1379 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 12: The line and for the first time in his racing career, 1380 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 12: here's Formula one ship here. 1381 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 6: Into the world. 1382 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks with spears finance smart, I said, 1383 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: and equipment finance for Kiwi businesses is. 1384 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 2: A passed eight. And Andrew Seville and Jason pineer with 1385 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: us Morning lads. Save you enjoyed the f one. 1386 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 13: He was very good. I actually thought, talking to Mike 1387 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 13: last week, I thought, but Stappn would do it. But 1388 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 13: he won the race obviously, but just too many points 1389 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 13: to claw back. So well done to Lando Norris. It's 1390 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 13: been a at times titchy sort of season. Has It 1391 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 13: has been dramatic season, great finish to the season. Been 1392 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 13: a lot of debate about where this McLaren team was 1393 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 13: hitting with both of these star drivers, but no no, Nora, 1394 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 13: some I think deserves it. What did he win seven 1395 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 13: races during the season something like that, and great for 1396 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 13: McLaren to be not only Constructors champion but drivers have 1397 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 13: have the World Drivers Champion as well the team given 1398 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 13: its strong New Zealand links. 1399 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Piney, what's your take on Norris as a driver? 1400 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 2: I think this is his first championship, isn't it? So 1401 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 2: is it the first of many? Or is it just 1402 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 2: me that's just one of them? 1403 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 23: Hard to know? Hard to know. 1404 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 20: I don't think anyone would suggest that he's going to 1405 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 20: be the step and look he might be. 1406 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 23: I mean the Stepen is one of the last four World. 1407 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 20: Championships and widely regarded as one of the greatest drivers 1408 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 20: ever to get behind the wheel. I guess we'll find out. 1409 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 20: It was interesting from Norris, wasn't it that he didn't 1410 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 20: have to win the race? All he had to do 1411 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 20: was finish in the top three. And that must be 1412 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 20: a little bit hard to navigate in your mind where 1413 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 20: you used to trying to win races knowing that you 1414 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 20: don't have to so you just have to stay out 1415 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 20: of trouble. Look you, as you say he won seven races, 1416 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 20: this year the step in one eight, so they give 1417 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 20: that there's an indication of how close they were. I 1418 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 20: think Piastre might have won seven as well. So yeah, 1419 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 20: for the for the staff and all he could do 1420 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 20: was was try to win and bunch the field behind him, 1421 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 20: try and cause some chaos. 1422 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 23: Didn't happen, So yeah, weld on Tolando Norris. 1423 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 20: For yeah, getting getting it down to the last to 1424 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 20: the last race. 1425 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 13: Was a promoter's train, you know, I don't I don't 1426 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 13: think we're seeing the start of a dominant run. 1427 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 12: Heather. 1428 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 13: They've got a whole new setups next year, new cars, 1429 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 13: so that'll be tricky for all the drivers. But yeah, 1430 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 13: like the staffing is a once in a generation talent, 1431 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 13: and he was. He's been in a very good car 1432 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 13: that has been set up solely for him. Yeah, I'd 1433 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 13: be surprised if Norris goes on to win several. 1434 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Championship now, sev It's hard. I mean, Liam Lawson came 1435 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 2: into eighteenth and obviously he got the five second penalty, 1436 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 2: which doesn't help the situation. But it's hard to describe 1437 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 2: this as like a fantastic season for him, is it? 1438 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 10: Here? 1439 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 13: Well, the start of it was very, very difficult for him, 1440 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 13: wasn't it being dumped from red Ball? I mean, such 1441 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 13: a cut throat sport mentally, very very tricky. I think 1442 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 13: he to everybody that's that he's more than capable of 1443 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 13: driving in Formula one. Let's not forget that the the 1444 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 13: Racing Balls car is not supposed to be up the 1445 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 13: top the top five, top six. 1446 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 18: It's a it's a midfield set up. It's a midfield car. 1447 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 13: So I think Lawson's done very well given what was 1448 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 13: thrown at them early on, and given what he's had 1449 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 13: to contend with. And yes, he's had some races where 1450 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 13: he's had a praying or he's had time penalties, but 1451 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 13: in other races he's done well in scoring points, and 1452 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 13: it would be it would have been a massive relief 1453 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 13: the last few weeks. I'm sure he would have known 1454 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 13: before we did that he secured a drive for next year. 1455 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 13: So I think, all in all, not a bad season 1456 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 13: for Liam Lawson. Let's not forget here that he is 1457 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 13: still driving in Formula one. 1458 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean yeah, that that actually is a very 1459 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 2: fair point worth making now, Piney, I don't want to 1460 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 2: start your week on above note, but what the hell 1461 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,959 Speaker 2: Phoenix Auckland FC five zip. 1462 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 23: Yeah, another one, another one. 1463 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 20: I think I said to you on Friday that the 1464 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 20: Phoenix had a great opportunity to win this one, and 1465 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 20: you know, I think I say they're ahead of every Darby. 1466 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 20: Of course they do. They go in a in a 1467 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 20: state of mind where they could win the game. But look, 1468 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 20: this game changed on the red card just after halftime, 1469 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 20: correctly given by the way, I'm not disputing the red 1470 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 20: card at all. To Mandraker James. Another brilliant day though 1471 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 20: out oft Go Media Stadium here the you know, in 1472 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 20: the Sunshine twenty three, twenty four thousand, lots of talking 1473 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 20: points in the game. But yeah, Wellington Wellington players must 1474 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 20: wonder if they're ever going to win one of these 1475 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 20: things because Auckland f C just have this insatiable appetite 1476 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 20: for beating the Phoenix, yeah, you know, and and an 1477 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 20: ability to do it. You know, Alex druthe for Paul 1478 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 20: to go back to make it one all and you thought, 1479 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 20: may hey, maybe there's a there's. 1480 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 23: An upset on the cards here. 1481 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 20: But Auckland f C just did what Auckland f C 1482 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 20: doing And I actually thought on Saturday they showed, they 1483 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 20: showed the form that we got used to last year 1484 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 20: when they kind of swept. 1485 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 23: All before them. I think I didn't they sat all yeah. 1486 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 13: Yeah, those imagisation of the of the fans and the 1487 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 13: crowd and the atmosphere, it's just fantastic, right. A League 1488 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 13: officials must be sitting back and didn't know wherever their 1489 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 13: officers are and go gee, thank god we get Auckland. 1490 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 13: They've seen of the competition because they've got the best 1491 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 13: crowds and surely the best atmosphere in the whole league, 1492 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 13: haven't they. Apart from a derby game in Australia. 1493 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, the only one that rivals at save is the 1494 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 20: Sydney Derby, which has always been big. But yeah, I 1495 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 20: think the New Zealand Derby is elevating the A League 1496 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 20: and and look at some Yeah you wonder why it 1497 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 20: took so long, but what is it? 1498 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 2: A terrific what is happening here in New Zealand that 1499 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 2: the crowd is just loving it so much in the fans? 1500 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Why is this working so well here? 1501 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 20: I think it's because Auckland's wanted it for so long, 1502 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 20: and for so long there's been a there's been a 1503 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 20: very very strong football fan base in Auckland without a 1504 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 20: team to support apart from the Phoenix when they bring 1505 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 20: a home game War two to Auckland every year. Now 1506 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 20: that you can go every other week, I think that 1507 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 20: you know they've been mobilized to this passionate fan base. 1508 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 20: And hither the other thing is, once you go along 1509 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 20: to a game, you want to know when the next 1510 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 20: one is. It's such a great day out, and the 1511 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 20: Aukland FC marketing team and the on the on the 1512 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 20: day entertainment team needs to take a huge pad on 1513 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 20: the back as well, because it's not just the football, 1514 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 20: it's the giant slide, it's the entertainment for the kids, 1515 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 20: it's everything that's wrapped around the experience. 1516 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 2: That's a fair point. All right, we'll take a break, 1517 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 2: come back. Definitely have to talk about the ashes. What 1518 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 2: the hell's going wrong with the bass Ball? Fourteen past eight. 1519 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: The Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, parlet 1520 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 1: By News. 1521 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 6: Talks a b. 1522 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Eight seventeen, The Monday Morning Commentary barks with Spears Finance, 1523 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Smart Asset and equipment finance for Kiwi businesses. 1524 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 2: All right, poney, what is going wrong with basball? 1525 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 23: I just think Australia are a better team than England. 1526 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 20: I yes, the approaches is controversy in terms of just 1527 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 20: going for it, but I think there was more caution 1528 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 20: at the Gabba than there was in Perth. 1529 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 23: But I just think Australia a bitter team. 1530 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 20: You look across the two teams, just okay, if you 1531 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 20: pick a combined eleven, there's more Australians in that team 1532 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 20: than there are English players. Look at some the Ashes 1533 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 20: could be done by Christmas, right, Adelaide before Christmas and 1534 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 20: the Boxing Day Test and Sydney. But you know Australia 1535 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 20: can go to Adelaide when that and the Ashes are 1536 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 20: sewing up. 1537 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 23: Yeah. 1538 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 20: I look, Mitchell Stark's doing brilliant things with bad haand ball. 1539 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 20: They're just a better team, you know. 1540 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 23: And it's going to be a long way, don't They. 1541 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 13: Have two fast bowlers to come back, Cummings and hazel Wood. 1542 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,560 Speaker 20: Yeah, so they're depleted and Nathan Lindon didn't play in 1543 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 20: this Test, so yeah, you know they're depleted, and yet 1544 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 20: they're still winning relatively comfortably inside four days. 1545 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1546 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:46,679 Speaker 13: Talking about great atmospheres, hither that the English fans certainly 1547 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 13: add a ton, right if they even despite the fact 1548 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 13: that cricketers aren't. 1549 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,560 Speaker 6: Playing for it. 1550 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 13: While getting well beaten. They had a huge atmosphere, you know, 1551 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 13: a huge. 1552 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 18: Gem electricity to these sorts of games. 1553 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 13: It's fantastic. Did you see those images from the weekend? 1554 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 13: There was about one hundred and fifty guys dressed as 1555 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 13: Stormtroopers and then Darth Vader arrived and the three guys 1556 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 13: on trumpets they were playing the Star Wars scene was 1557 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 13: just absolutely superb. 1558 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 2: It didn't make an efforts. Yeah, but with regards to 1559 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 2: our crew, I wonder. 1560 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 13: What Mike want to although they take a step left 1561 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,600 Speaker 13: with him to fit into a Darth Vader cost Oh. 1562 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 2: Man, you are going to be in so much trouble. 1563 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 2: They're going to clip this sound. They're going to play 1564 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 2: this to him in January, and it's just going to 1565 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 2: start you off on a sour nodal year. Listen, what 1566 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 2: do you reckon? Stave? What what do you reckon? Is 1567 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 2: more prestigious the FIFA Peace Prize or the Nobel Peace Prize. 1568 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 13: Well, let's take a stamp in the dark and probably 1569 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 13: say the Nobel Peace Prize cheers. 1570 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 2: And did these guys just concoct this for trump? 1571 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 18: Yes? 1572 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 20: Yes, Honestly, I have never seen such a such a vile, 1573 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 20: self serving suck up as I have. 1574 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 23: On Saturday morning when. 1575 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 20: Yeah, or as as Donald Trump was calling him Johnny 1576 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:16,600 Speaker 20: and Fantino, I just thought it was it was just 1577 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 20: it was just nauseating, and it's and it's you know, 1578 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 20: and it's horrible sickopantic nature. 1579 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 10: You know. 1580 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 2: We didn't want to get that, honestly, Piney, would you 1581 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: want that to be your trophy though, because it's eddious, 1582 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry to do this, but if you hold 1583 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 2: it upside down, it looks like a testicle. 1584 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, And if you have it the right way up, 1585 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 20: it looks like severed Hans. I'm not sure that's you 1586 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 20: want to be getting for peace either. So I look 1587 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 20: at and the medal and the certificate. I mean, honestly, 1588 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 20: we're all there to see who our teams are playing 1589 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 20: at the World Cup, and we have to sit through 1590 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 20: that nonsense. 1591 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 23: It was just a point. 1592 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh, they just really honestly, they're encourrigible. 1593 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,599 Speaker 13: Okay, now listen, do you hear that last year at 1594 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 13: the Club World Cup in America, which was sort of 1595 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 13: the stage for the World Cup, Trump said, oh, I 1596 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 13: like that trophy I'm going to keep that f sid 1597 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,519 Speaker 13: pardon and he kept the trophy and it's in the 1598 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 13: Oval office and they had to make a new one 1599 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 13: three days before they presented it to the winner. 1600 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 8: Honestly, look of it. 1601 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 2: So then they realized, Okay, the man loves a trophy, 1602 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 2: get him one now. Idio say in Ketzia, who was 1603 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 2: the chap who has broken our one hundred meter record 1604 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 2: and now he's gone and defected to Australia. Sav is 1605 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 2: this the balls up that it looks like. 1606 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 13: He's been in and out of sprinting for a while. 1607 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 13: I remember he went to American college to try and 1608 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 13: make it in American football. 1609 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 6: He's come back. 1610 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 13: I don't know. I don't know where Eddie's career is 1611 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 13: headed and will he do well under Australia possibly? What 1612 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 13: about Sam Ruth? 1613 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 20: Heather, have you have you picked up on this young 1614 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 20: middle distance runner Sam Ruth over the weekend? 1615 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 2: Are you doing this thing where it doesn't matter that 1616 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 2: we've lost one chap because we've got another chap and 1617 01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 2: he'll do it instead. 1618 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 20: Well, I mean, look at Sam Ruth is running faster 1619 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 20: at the age of sixteen than Peter Snell, John Walker, 1620 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 20: Rod Dixon or Nick Willis. 1621 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 23: Did he over the weekend? 1622 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 20: Yeah, absolutely obliterated both the eight hundred and fifteen hundred 1623 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 20: meter secondary school records eight seconds he took off the 1624 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 20: fifteen hundred meter record. 1625 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 23: The kid is an absolute freak. 1626 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 16: He is. 1627 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 20: He's the youngest person ever in the world to run 1628 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 20: a sub formIn at mile. Honestly, EDDIOSI and Keith and Kittya. Yes, 1629 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 20: it's sad to see him go. But Sam Ruth maybe 1630 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 20: about it yet. 1631 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think just back to just back Deddy quickly. 1632 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 13: I think, look a lot was pumped into at early age, 1633 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 13: as in as in funding and resourcing. I think to 1634 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,200 Speaker 13: run for New Zealand, and then he decides to skip 1635 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 13: off to the state. So I think that may have 1636 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 13: left a bad house our taste in some mouths. 1637 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 14: I'm not on. 1638 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're doing that thing. You've got to be loyal, 1639 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,440 Speaker 2: I understand it. Listen, thanks so much, guys, really appreciated. 1640 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 2: Andrew Saville and Jason Pine Our commentary Box eight twenty two. 1641 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Heather do Putty Ellen on the Mike, asking break with 1642 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: al Vida, retirement, communities, news togs. 1643 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 2: Dead b Jeez, you don't need me to tell you 1644 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,600 Speaker 2: This summer in New Zealand doesn't follow the rules, does it. 1645 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 2: One minute you're on smooth tarmac, and the next you're 1646 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 2: bouncing over corrugated gravels, soft sand or a coastal track 1647 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 2: that barely counts as a road. That's the beauty of 1648 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: a Kiwi summer, and that's where the Defender feels right 1649 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 2: at home. Terrain response adjusts instantly to whatever is under 1650 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 2: the tires, and the traction system keeps you steady, whether 1651 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 2: you're heading to the batch or the beach, or somewhere 1652 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,759 Speaker 2: you only find by chance. Inside though it's premium and modern, 1653 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 2: it's cool, comfortable and quiet, proper luxury. And they're outside 1654 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 2: unmistakable strength, built for long days and late night drives 1655 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 2: and undeniable presence. You need space for the kids, the surfboards, 1656 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 2: the chilibins, whatever, no problem. Defender does adventure and everyday 1657 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: life in the same breath. It makes summer feel effortless, 1658 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 2: whether you're exploring somewhere wild or just taking the long 1659 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 2: way home. And in a country built on exploration, summer 1660 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 2: isn't just a season. It's a way of life, isn't it. 1661 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 2: Defender is built for it, So visit your local retailer today. 1662 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 2: Heather d for see Allen hither I could have done 1663 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 2: without the super loud saxophonists during the non playing time 1664 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,799 Speaker 2: at the Auckland fcv Phoenix game. Otherwise, an awesome impact 1665 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 2: entertainment package from Auckland f C. Great atmosphere to be 1666 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 2: amongst Teresa. You say it's a great atmosphere and then 1667 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 2: you're complaining about the atmosphere. I'm starting to realize we 1668 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 2: really are. We're a bad crowd. A we are a 1669 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 2: bad crowd. We don't like people dancing in front of us. 1670 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,640 Speaker 2: We don't like the saxophonists next to us. Somebody was 1671 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 2: complaining a couple of hours ago because they're Scottish and 1672 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 2: they were at an NPC match and they were told 1673 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 2: to quiet in and down it was too loud around people. 1674 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 2: You've been waiting for this. Happy Days. Katie Perry has 1675 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 2: now hard launched Justin the hard launch Justin Trudeau on 1676 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 2: the Instagram posted a string of photographs and videos of 1677 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 2: their trip to Japan. Is the smiling at the camera 1678 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 2: and their heads are touching each other, eating sushi tokyo 1679 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 2: times on tour and more. We already knew they were 1680 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 2: going out because we saw the restaurant photograph ages ago. 1681 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,919 Speaker 2: But you know it's not official till it's Instagram official, 1682 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 2: and it's now official, So yay for us and all 1683 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 2: the gross photos. We now have to look at news 1684 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 2: dogs at be. 1685 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,719 Speaker 1: Credible, compelling. The Breakfast show, you can't bess. It's hither 1686 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, 1687 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: Life your Way, news togs head b Listen. 1688 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 2: I've got to tell you shortly about something I don't 1689 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 2: think it's tax related, might affect you, which I don't 1690 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 2: think has got sufficient publicity. Actually over the weekend we'll 1691 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 2: get to that. And just to tack hither on the 1692 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 2: boring crowds. I was at the ASB Classic tennis last 1693 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 2: year supporting my favorite play with the German flag. A 1694 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 2: large security man turned up and threatened to throw me 1695 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: out if I didn't put it back in my bag. 1696 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 2: I went to the Aussie Open two weeks later, tons 1697 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 2: of flag stress. Up's atmosphere such fun. The ASB Classic 1698 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 2: has no atmosphere. By comparison, Alex Eeger, you're just further 1699 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 2: cementing my thesis on crowds. In New Zealand twenty three 1700 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 2: away from. 1701 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 10: Nine International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of 1702 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 10: mind for New Zealand Business. 1703 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 2: Steve Price of the correspondence with US right now morning, 1704 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 2: Steve Good, I Heather, So a couple of days to 1705 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 2: go and we've got the social media bankkicking in. 1706 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is for anyone under sixteen. They'll be turned 1707 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 6: off on their social media accounts for the actual providers. 1708 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 6: That's the theory, but a lot of the excuse me, 1709 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 6: a lot of the parents that are a little skeptical. 1710 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 6: So there's a polland Cinnemony Herald this morning saying seventy 1711 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 6: percent of voters backed the ban, but only thirty five 1712 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,799 Speaker 6: percent of confident that the platforms will actually effectively manage 1713 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 6: to bock their children. Resolve Political monitor did this pole 1714 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 6: for the Herald. Fifty three percent said that they would 1715 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 6: pick and choose what their kids could access and they 1716 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 6: would review parental controls. Thirteen percent plan to take no action. 1717 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 6: So this is going to be really interesting because I mean, 1718 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 6: I think most of us would say social media can 1719 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 6: cause great harm. We've had awful examples of that and 1720 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,599 Speaker 6: it would be better if children under sixteen. In fact, 1721 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 6: I would say children under eighteen, you know, used it less. 1722 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 6: But parents themselves realize that this is going to be 1723 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 6: really hard. I mean, how do you tell a fifteen 1724 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 6: year old that suddenly they're not allowed with the looming 1725 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 6: summer school holidays coming to go on Snapchat? I mean, 1726 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 6: as a parent, I think it would be really difficult 1727 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 6: to enforce. And the government seems confident this is the 1728 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 6: best thing they've ever done in the world, but I 1729 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 6: just think in practical terms, it's going to be very difficult. 1730 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, there's even evidence that kids are 1731 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 6: using photographs of celebrities to pretend that that's who they are, ah, 1732 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 6: so they can keep their accounts. I mean, I guess 1733 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 6: the evidence is going to be and how the whole 1734 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 6: thing does work eventually, But we'll see. 1735 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see facing has started to kick them off. 1736 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean meet you know, with Facebook and Instagram started 1737 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 2: kicking them off already last week. And have we had 1738 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 2: howls of outrage from the kids yet? 1739 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 6: And so that means to me that they're going to 1740 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 6: get around it somehow. 1741 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might well be right now. Yeah, this business 1742 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 2: with the expenses scandal is getting pretty It's getting pretty 1743 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 2: full on, isn't it. 1744 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, and interesting. This is the minister in charge of 1745 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 6: promoting the new laws on social media Antika Wells. It 1746 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 6: can be revealed into Sidney Morning Herald now that during 1747 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,599 Speaker 6: the twenty twenty two twenty three Test cricket series against 1748 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 6: South Africa, the minister charge taxpayers for a family reunion 1749 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 6: flight so that her husband could come down to the 1750 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 6: Boxing Day Test in Melbourne. The flights cost eighteen hundred 1751 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 6: and eighty five dollars. She got three three free corporate 1752 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 6: tickets from Cricket Australia to go to the match, and 1753 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,879 Speaker 6: in twenty three twenty four the match against Pakistan Australia 1754 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 6: was playing, she got one free ticket and the husband 1755 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 6: still flew down to Melbourne. Now she's not technically breaking 1756 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 6: the laws. There are reunion rules around this that you 1757 01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,879 Speaker 6: can have three flights a year if you're going somewhere 1758 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 6: other than Canberra to be with your partner. But this 1759 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 6: is the same minister who took two staff to New 1760 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 6: York to attend a meeting of the UN to spruit 1761 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,320 Speaker 6: the new social media laws, and the air is there 1762 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 6: were eye wateringly expensive, over ninety thousand dollars for three 1763 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 6: of them to go to New York and back. Now 1764 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 6: many people suspect she's probably sitting in first class. We 1765 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 6: may never know, but these things are never a good look, 1766 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 6: particularly when you've got a country where there's a cost 1767 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 6: of living crisis. People can't afford to pay their electricity bills, 1768 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 6: and you've got ministers flying around the world in business 1769 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 6: class and then getting their husband to fly down to 1770 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,560 Speaker 6: Melbourne to go to the boxing day tests. It's not 1771 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 6: a good look for Anika Wills. If she wasn't promoting 1772 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 6: the social media changes this Wednesday, I suspect she might 1773 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,040 Speaker 6: have lost her job. 1774 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,679 Speaker 2: Now, I mean, Steve, as you say, these other rules 1775 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,640 Speaker 2: and there's no indication that she's broken the rules. So 1776 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 2: had she done it at a time when the country 1777 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,439 Speaker 2: was more flush and people were more flushed, have been fine. 1778 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 6: Probably. Although don't like politicians getting freebies, whether it's tickets 1779 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 6: to the cricket or whether it's air fares. It's just 1780 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 6: not something. I mean, she says, Look, I've broken no rules, 1781 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 6: and no you haven't. Well, maybe we need to change 1782 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 6: the rules. I mean, why would taxpayers have to pay 1783 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 6: for her husband who lives in Brisbane to fly to 1784 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 6: Melbourne to go to the Boxing day Test. If he 1785 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 6: wants to go to the Boxing Day Test, let him 1786 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 6: pay for himself. 1787 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1788 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. Now, the lads in 1789 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 2: the producing team here tell me that you're going to 1790 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 2: be a bit dark on the Oscar p Yestree situation. 1791 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 6: Well, I've almost given up, and I think Oscar had 1792 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,839 Speaker 6: two The team McLaren wanted Norris to win, and Lando 1793 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 6: has become the world champion. I think the delicious moment 1794 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 6: was lap one, turn nine Oscar passed Norris. I think 1795 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,240 Speaker 6: Oscar has finished third in qualifying, so he had Norris 1796 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 6: and to Staping ahead of him, and all he wanted 1797 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,559 Speaker 6: to do I think to show the world was that 1798 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,720 Speaker 6: he's a better driver than Lando Norris, and he is 1799 01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 6: led the world championship for most of the season. We 1800 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 6: might go back to Monz or I don't want to 1801 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 6: be too technical about all of this, but back in Monza, 1802 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 6: Piastre was forced to let Norris go past as part 1803 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,960 Speaker 6: of team rules, and that cost Oscar three points, and 1804 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:16,040 Speaker 6: of course those three points went to went to Orlando 1805 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,679 Speaker 6: and he won the world title by two points. So 1806 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 6: you can make up your own mind. I mean he's 1807 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,760 Speaker 6: a better driver. They had two great cars all year. 1808 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 6: The Stappen's are superstar. He's won five world titles and 1809 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,960 Speaker 6: you know, if Norris, if Piastri couldn't win either, I 1810 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,600 Speaker 6: would have liked to have seemed to stab him. But 1811 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 6: I just don't like Lando. He's a privilege pratt to be. 1812 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Honest, good on, Yes, Steve appreciated Steve price Osi corresponding, 1813 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,200 Speaker 2: Were we just talking about this? Weren't we just talking 1814 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 2: about the fact that he is incredibly privileged because it 1815 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 2: comes from a rich family. But it still takes some skill, 1816 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,439 Speaker 2: doesn't it. Seventeen away from nine? Now, this is the 1817 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 2: thing that I don't think is getting enough media attention. 1818 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,679 Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, it's being covered by the Herald, 1819 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,080 Speaker 2: so janetub Traney has covered it off for the for 1820 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 2: the weekend here. If you are reading the Herald, you'll 1821 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 2: be across it. But I think it affects more people 1822 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,719 Speaker 2: than kind of the attention it's getting. At the moment, 1823 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 2: Ird is proposing to close in on companies that lend 1824 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 2: to their shareholders, right, which is so what happens in 1825 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 2: some cases is the company doesn't pay the shareholder a 1826 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 2: wage or a salary or a dividend, It just pays 1827 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 2: a loan and that kind of gets around some of 1828 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 2: the tax stuff, you know, like just tax just gets 1829 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 2: around some of the tax and IID kind of sees 1830 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 2: what's going on here, and so they have proposed that 1831 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 2: they want to start treating the company loans to shareholders 1832 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 2: as income and start taxing it. And the reason they 1833 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 2: want to do that is because number one, they think 1834 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 2: that these companies are doing it in order to pay 1835 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 2: it to avoid paying the full tax, but also because 1836 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 2: they think that there are some cases where a company's 1837 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 2: about to go and go into liquidation and then the 1838 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 2: shareholders are drawing out loans so they can get their 1839 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 2: money out beforehand, you know what I mean. So I 1840 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean, so look on the face of it, you'd 1841 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 2: have to say, well, if this kind of makes things 1842 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 2: a little bit fairer, you know, fearer. But the problem, 1843 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 2: of course is this is a country of small businesses. 1844 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 2: SMEs and semes are the ones who are doing this, 1845 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 2: and there is a whopping twenty nine billion dollars that 1846 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 2: shareholders o companies, So a lot of people are doing 1847 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 2: this and a lot of companies are doing this, and 1848 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 2: ID has done this on the quiet and then seems 1849 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 2: to have kind of retrospectively ish done it. So they 1850 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,000 Speaker 2: want to be able to apply this new change to 1851 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,640 Speaker 2: loans from December four. What's December before? Was that last Thursday. 1852 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 2: So we're talking on Monday about something that's now going 1853 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 2: to apply from last Thursday. So I don't know, you 1854 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 2: could see that this is going to get people a 1855 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 2: little bit worked up. I'd imagine the Taxpayers Union is 1856 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 2: going to go hard on this. Keep an eye out 1857 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 2: for that quarter to nine. 1858 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,719 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1859 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 1: by News Talks at b here. 1860 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 2: The IDA is going hard to get money. They've just 1861 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 2: gone back on me, gone back on three years of 1862 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 2: my tax returns and asking questions even though I have 1863 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 2: an accountant AJ they are. They're going hard on the 1864 01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,160 Speaker 2: taxes everywhere, right, So they're going harder, I mean on 1865 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,559 Speaker 2: any bit of money that you might be you might 1866 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 2: oh IID that come and sniffing for it, like the 1867 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 2: student loans. And I'm loving this. Like I said to 1868 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, before you look after the pennies and 1869 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 2: the pounds take care of themselves. Has always been a 1870 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,639 Speaker 2: disgrace that we've had outstanding tax bills, outstanding student loans, 1871 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 2: just all this stuff kind of floating ring. Don't worry, 1872 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 2: we're flush. We've got so much money it doesn't really matter. 1873 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,720 Speaker 2: Well we're not, and so we may as well get 1874 01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 2: it back. Now I've got a question for you. Okay, 1875 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 2: do you reckon if you've got a smart watch? Has 1876 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 2: this made your life better or worse? Is this good 1877 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,240 Speaker 2: for you? Because there is a researcher who's had a 1878 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,360 Speaker 2: look at the impact of wearing a smart watch. If 1879 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,559 Speaker 2: you don't have a smart watch, right, what it does 1880 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,520 Speaker 2: is it does everything. So it measures the new additions 1881 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 2: like measure your temperature, measure your heart rate, like if 1882 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,559 Speaker 2: you haven't if you have that what is it called 1883 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 2: arterial fibrillation or whatever it is, the cardiovascular surgeon is 1884 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,320 Speaker 2: going to have a freak out right now my pronunciation. 1885 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 2: But the AF, if you've got the hay af where 1886 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,759 Speaker 2: your heart's kind of doing the funny thing, it measures it. 1887 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 2: It tells you all about that. 1888 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 8: Forget the Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra will actually do your 1889 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 8: blood pressure. 1890 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so so yeah, did you get that? As 1891 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 2: that was that a plug? For a free product right there. 1892 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, I'm actually reviewing the Honor watch for at 1893 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 8: the moment. 1894 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,800 Speaker 2: Listen to you, this guy. I should never talk about 1895 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 2: anything tech around Glen, because of just chippin and start 1896 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 2: making me look Excay, there's just. 1897 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,200 Speaker 8: A little plug for my tech reviews. Else. 1898 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,120 Speaker 2: So he does the tech reviews and so maybe you 1899 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 2: can answer the question, Glen. So it does the blood pressure, 1900 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,600 Speaker 2: does the heart rate? Does how much your sleep? And 1901 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,560 Speaker 2: does all this stuff? Does everything? Does it tells you 1902 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 2: if you're sixy six? Yeah, it tells you if you're 1903 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 2: stressed whatever. And this research has had to look at it, 1904 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,679 Speaker 2: and she reckons it very small like cohort of cardiovascular pation, 1905 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 2: so very small group and not at all the general 1906 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 2: public right beause these people who are freaked out about 1907 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,799 Speaker 2: their hearts. She reckons it drives up anxiety. She reckons 1908 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 2: twenty percent of those who've been given the old smart 1909 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,839 Speaker 2: watch to monitor their hearthouse start getting freaked out by it. 1910 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,679 Speaker 2: So they see it as they see something that worries 1911 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,800 Speaker 2: them on their watch, So then they become worried, which 1912 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 2: then pushes up their heart rate, which then records another 1913 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 2: bad numbers. That become worried against it becomes a self 1914 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,160 Speaker 2: fulfilling prophecy. So she reckons and a bunch of people reckon. Actually, 1915 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 2: these things are not good for you. They are actually 1916 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 2: making you. They're making you stress out about just normal 1917 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 2: functions like sleep. On the other hand, on the other hand, 1918 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 2: I find it's quite helpful to know that you are 1919 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 2: waking up about a thousand times in the night to 1920 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 2: go go do your eez or whatever, and you are 1921 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,000 Speaker 2: losing an hour sleep. Thereby you go to our go 1922 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 2: to sleep an hour early. 1923 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:23,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. I actually cured my snoring partly by using 1924 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 8: a smart watch, how well, because it could tell me 1925 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 8: when I was snoring, actually recorded when I was snoring, 1926 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,559 Speaker 8: and I could play it back and hear how. 1927 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 2: Horrible it was, so you didn't believe your wife. 1928 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 8: Well, and then and then when I saw it, like actually, 1929 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 8: in you know, minutes and hours, how much time I 1930 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 8: spent snoring, I thought I'd better do something about this. 1931 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Okay, And what he did about it as an installment 1932 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,719 Speaker 2: for another day. What smart watch was that? Please? Ants 1933 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 2: An's glean. 1934 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,160 Speaker 8: So many smart watches, it's one of them. 1935 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 2: There you go. I'm firmly on the side of it 1936 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 2: improves your life. You just you turn off your anxiety. 1937 01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,520 Speaker 2: Eight away from nine. 1938 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Allen on the my casking Breakfast, We're the Defender and 1939 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 1: use togs headb. 1940 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 2: Looks like Nigel Farage might be in a little bit 1941 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 2: of trouble over and the UK's has just dropped as 1942 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 2: an exclusive on the Telegraph. He's been reported to police 1943 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 2: by a former member of his campaign team overclaims of 1944 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 2: falsified election expenses. This is when he was running four Yeah, 1945 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 2: he was running in Clacton and apparently officially Reform came 1946 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 2: within four hundred pounds of the legal spending limit, which 1947 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 2: is about twenty oh it's about twenty thousand pounds and 1948 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 2: a bit of change anyway, he came very close. But 1949 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,960 Speaker 2: this chap reckons that that excludes some costs including leaflets, 1950 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 2: banner's utility bills and the refurbishment of a blue and 1951 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 2: teal Reform themed bar in the campaign office, but also 1952 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 2: failed to declare the loan of an armored land rover, 1953 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,519 Speaker 2: which you think would kind of be obvious, like the 1954 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 2: dude's driving around in a land rover and it's not 1955 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 2: in the expenses anyway. If it's true, it's a breach 1956 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 2: of electoral law, and it'll be the first kind of 1957 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,839 Speaker 2: would I say, first takedown attempt, not the first takedown 1958 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 2: attempt on farage, but might actually sting five to. 1959 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 1: Nine trending now warehouse the real house of fragrances. 1960 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know if anything that Trump puts in 1961 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,000 Speaker 2: place surprises anyone anymore. 1962 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 23: But there is this. 1963 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 2: So earlier this year, the media asked why Trump's White 1964 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,720 Speaker 2: House wasn't making a big deal about June tenth, which 1965 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 2: is the federal holiday. 1966 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,200 Speaker 23: Of course, does the president. 1967 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Plant to commemorate the holiday today. 1968 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 8: Or a melody coming on it? 1969 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 15: I'm not tracking his signature on a proclamation today. 1970 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 2: I know this is a federal holiday. I want to 1971 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,559 Speaker 2: thank all of you for showing up to work. 1972 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 5: We are certainly here. 1973 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,479 Speaker 2: We're working twenty four to seven right now, Nick, you 1974 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 2: go ahead. 1975 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 22: Actually that was my question. 1976 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 21: Will you plan to mark Juneteenth in any way, either 1977 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 21: today or with an event later. 1978 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 12: On maybe next week? 1979 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 5: Sure? 1980 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,640 Speaker 2: I just answered that question for you. 1981 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 18: Go ahead. 1982 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 2: So in the US there are certain days you can 1983 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 2: get into national parks for free, and it won't surprise 1984 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,040 Speaker 2: you then to learn that Trump has removed Martin Luther 1985 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 2: King Day, King Junior Day and June tenth from those 1986 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,040 Speaker 2: free days. But don't worry, because they're not The American 1987 01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,720 Speaker 2: public's not going to miss out on two days. They 1988 01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 2: are going to get one day back in and that's 1989 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,759 Speaker 2: Trump's Birthday. So no more Juneteenth or Marta King Junior 1990 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 2: Martin Luther King Junior Day. But you can go to 1991 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 2: the parks for free on Donald Trump's birthday, because that's 1992 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,600 Speaker 2: the kind of place the US now wild. Heather, I 1993 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 2: went on a hike and one of the guys had 1994 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 2: a smart watch, and every time he had a fag, 1995 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,599 Speaker 2: his heart rate went up and he had to stop, 1996 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,760 Speaker 2: and it took us forever to complete the hike. I 1997 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 2: thought that story was going to end, and then he 1998 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 2: had to stop with the fags because he realized what 1999 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 2: it was. But evidently not hither. My husband has a 2000 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,080 Speaker 2: smart watch is the worst thing ever. He's like a 2001 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,520 Speaker 2: bloody teenage girl checking every blim and notification. 2002 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 23: You know what that is. 2003 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Though I'm prepared to diagnose this, I reckon husbands look 2004 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,679 Speaker 2: for anything to distract so they are in the real world, 2005 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 2: but they want to not be there with you at 2006 01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 2: the minute, because then there might be chores to do, 2007 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 2: so they like what that's what's going on. 2008 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 8: He might have just been looking at the time, wondering 2009 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 8: how long this was going to go on. 2010 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 2: It was just like, she's still cleaning. Hold on, she's 2011 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,120 Speaker 2: still cleaning. Now, hang on, she's still cleaning. If I 2012 01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 2: just keep looking at this was should we finish cleaning 2013 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,640 Speaker 2: soon and I won't have to alridy ho? There we go, 2014 01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 2: one down. Hosking's having a lovely day today on holiday. 2015 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 2: I probably just woke up now. Maybe see you tomorrow. 2016 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 2017 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,240 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 2018 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.