1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks edb SO. 3 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:14,747 Speaker 2: It's the second last test of the year for the 4 00:00:14,747 --> 00:00:18,427 Speaker 2: All Blacks Tomorrow morning England at Twickenham. Ten past four 5 00:00:18,547 --> 00:00:20,787 Speaker 2: is kickoff time. We have a commentary for year on 6 00:00:20,827 --> 00:00:22,787 Speaker 2: News Talks edb SO. But you don't even have to 7 00:00:22,787 --> 00:00:24,507 Speaker 2: get out of bed. Just radio under the pillow, war 8 00:00:24,587 --> 00:00:26,347 Speaker 2: your device or whatever it is, just turning it into 9 00:00:26,387 --> 00:00:30,747 Speaker 2: zb or or Gold Sport or iHeartRadio. The last time 10 00:00:30,787 --> 00:00:32,667 Speaker 2: we played England was on the end of season two 11 00:00:32,827 --> 00:00:36,347 Speaker 2: last year. They're looking for the best opportunity for the 12 00:00:36,387 --> 00:00:38,907 Speaker 2: truck goal, George Ford, for the truck goal. 13 00:00:39,067 --> 00:00:39,787 Speaker 3: For the truck do. 14 00:00:43,507 --> 00:00:44,507 Speaker 2: Look away. 15 00:00:45,667 --> 00:00:47,507 Speaker 1: It is away. 16 00:00:49,467 --> 00:00:56,747 Speaker 2: When my throller at Twickenham twenty four twenty two, I'd 17 00:00:56,747 --> 00:01:01,107 Speaker 2: almost erased that from my memory, actually the dramatic finish 18 00:01:01,187 --> 00:01:03,707 Speaker 2: to that game. But yet New Zealand getting up twenty 19 00:01:03,747 --> 00:01:07,507 Speaker 2: four to twenty two at Twickenham. England haven't beaten US 20 00:01:07,507 --> 00:01:10,507 Speaker 2: at twicken them since twenty twelve. Incidentally, they haven't beaten 21 00:01:10,587 --> 00:01:13,867 Speaker 2: US anywhere since twenty nineteen. It was the Rugby World 22 00:01:13,907 --> 00:01:16,467 Speaker 2: Cup semi final in Japan. That was the last time 23 00:01:16,627 --> 00:01:20,347 Speaker 2: England beat us Let's bring in former England Hurricanes and 24 00:01:20,427 --> 00:01:23,467 Speaker 2: Crusaders lose forward Thomas Wardrop Thomas. Before we look ahead 25 00:01:23,507 --> 00:01:24,987 Speaker 2: to this game tomorrow morning, what have you made of 26 00:01:25,027 --> 00:01:28,027 Speaker 2: the All Blacks in the last two weekends during their 27 00:01:28,067 --> 00:01:30,587 Speaker 2: wins over Ireland and then Scotland. 28 00:01:31,067 --> 00:01:34,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're looking at them. Yeah, they're trying to do stuff, 29 00:01:34,787 --> 00:01:37,187 Speaker 3: but then it's sort of it's not coming off as much. 30 00:01:37,267 --> 00:01:40,227 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sort of on the fence at the moment. 31 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:44,187 Speaker 3: So this Test match tomorrow I think it's going to 32 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:47,427 Speaker 3: be a key one for them to see actually what 33 00:01:47,467 --> 00:01:50,267 Speaker 3: they're trying to do and if they can get a 34 00:01:50,267 --> 00:01:51,227 Speaker 3: win over England as well. 35 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:53,987 Speaker 2: As you say you can see what they're trying to do. 36 00:01:54,547 --> 00:01:57,587 Speaker 2: The cohesion I think has been the thing against Ireland. 37 00:01:57,827 --> 00:01:59,587 Speaker 2: It took until the last twenty minutes for them to 38 00:01:59,587 --> 00:02:02,867 Speaker 2: come together. Last week against Scotland, the yellow cards didn't help, 39 00:02:02,907 --> 00:02:05,987 Speaker 2: but there was a period after halftime where where they 40 00:02:06,107 --> 00:02:08,547 Speaker 2: just get the ball in Scotland came back into the game. 41 00:02:09,027 --> 00:02:10,587 Speaker 2: Do you feel as though this All Black side has 42 00:02:10,627 --> 00:02:15,027 Speaker 2: got a sixty seventy even eighteen minute performance in them. 43 00:02:15,307 --> 00:02:17,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they do. And also I think they 44 00:02:17,627 --> 00:02:20,747 Speaker 3: just need to the side of who the who's this 45 00:02:21,067 --> 00:02:23,347 Speaker 3: best fiftem as well and what they're trying to achieve 46 00:02:23,387 --> 00:02:25,227 Speaker 3: is I think there's a lot of top and Johno. 47 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:27,547 Speaker 3: There's injuries and stuff like that, but I think he 48 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:29,827 Speaker 3: sort of Hilly Parcter was there for a little bit, 49 00:02:30,107 --> 00:02:32,347 Speaker 3: he's out, but now he's back in and what was 50 00:02:32,387 --> 00:02:34,467 Speaker 3: the TZ I thought pad really well? Then he is 51 00:02:34,507 --> 00:02:37,187 Speaker 3: on the fence and Simon Parker's in and I think 52 00:02:37,267 --> 00:02:40,267 Speaker 3: as a player, I think just having these mixed messages 53 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:43,667 Speaker 3: is probably not great, but yeah, we'll be understeing how 54 00:02:43,707 --> 00:02:44,427 Speaker 3: it goes in the end. 55 00:02:44,787 --> 00:02:48,467 Speaker 2: Another guy who's who's involved in the loose forwards and 56 00:02:48,467 --> 00:02:50,307 Speaker 2: he's actually had a decent run in the side in 57 00:02:50,387 --> 00:02:53,827 Speaker 2: recent times as Peterkey. He's been in the number eight jersey. 58 00:02:53,827 --> 00:02:55,947 Speaker 2: This will be his fourth Test in a row in 59 00:02:55,987 --> 00:02:57,507 Speaker 2: that in that jersey. You've said a bit of him 60 00:02:57,507 --> 00:03:00,187 Speaker 2: obviously for the Hurricanes as well. How have you evaluated 61 00:03:00,187 --> 00:03:02,587 Speaker 2: how Peter Likekey has been playing in the last little while. 62 00:03:02,867 --> 00:03:04,787 Speaker 3: Oh no, Yeah, I think he's won really well. And 63 00:03:04,827 --> 00:03:07,387 Speaker 3: that's the thing. He's sort of this a tast a 64 00:03:07,427 --> 00:03:09,587 Speaker 3: bit of time, but I can see these building some 65 00:03:09,627 --> 00:03:12,147 Speaker 3: combinations and I think that loose wards, that's what it's about. 66 00:03:12,187 --> 00:03:13,987 Speaker 3: And I think it's probably a bit hard on him 67 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:17,707 Speaker 3: with Parker probably coming in this week. I think wallas 68 00:03:18,387 --> 00:03:22,147 Speaker 3: Ardi and Peter Or I think worked really well the 69 00:03:22,227 --> 00:03:24,387 Speaker 3: last few weeks and I think they're building real nicely. 70 00:03:24,787 --> 00:03:27,187 Speaker 3: So now they've probably dynamics changed a little bit, but 71 00:03:27,227 --> 00:03:29,907 Speaker 3: I think generally, I think that's the thing. He's throwing 72 00:03:29,987 --> 00:03:31,867 Speaker 3: his body around it on the second half. I think 73 00:03:31,907 --> 00:03:35,187 Speaker 3: he some of the tackles he was making real physical 74 00:03:35,227 --> 00:03:38,027 Speaker 3: and standing up and this the things. He's still young 75 00:03:38,107 --> 00:03:41,067 Speaker 3: and he's still going to grow and mature into a 76 00:03:41,107 --> 00:03:42,867 Speaker 3: bloody good All Black, but he's Yeah, I think he's 77 00:03:42,907 --> 00:03:43,787 Speaker 3: going really well at the moment. 78 00:03:44,027 --> 00:03:46,787 Speaker 2: Just on the decision to bring Simon Parker into the side. 79 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,747 Speaker 2: He didn't. He wasn't in the match day twenty three 80 00:03:49,827 --> 00:03:53,067 Speaker 2: last week, and presumably they were they were resting him 81 00:03:53,147 --> 00:03:56,347 Speaker 2: or saving him for this week. And as you say, 82 00:03:56,387 --> 00:03:58,827 Speaker 2: Wallace a Titi goes onto the bench, I guess the 83 00:03:58,827 --> 00:04:00,507 Speaker 2: All Blacks would say, Okay, well we need that big 84 00:04:00,547 --> 00:04:02,787 Speaker 2: body out there. We need a big Simon Parker against 85 00:04:02,787 --> 00:04:05,787 Speaker 2: guys like Sam Underhill and Ben Earl and Guy Pepper, 86 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:08,667 Speaker 2: Who are England's lousies? Do you subscribe to that that 87 00:04:08,707 --> 00:04:10,347 Speaker 2: you need that big body out there? 88 00:04:11,187 --> 00:04:13,787 Speaker 3: I think against England, I don't think you do, because 89 00:04:14,067 --> 00:04:17,187 Speaker 3: I think Ben Ill, I know Sam Under was very 90 00:04:17,267 --> 00:04:20,187 Speaker 3: very strong tackler and very physical and stuff like that. 91 00:04:20,347 --> 00:04:25,747 Speaker 3: I think sometimes speed ability, ball skills and everything, sometimes 92 00:04:25,787 --> 00:04:27,547 Speaker 3: you can get around in England guys. And that's what 93 00:04:27,907 --> 00:04:29,387 Speaker 3: That's what I was sort of hoping for, that they 94 00:04:29,387 --> 00:04:32,267 Speaker 3: could probably just stick with them and try the game plan. 95 00:04:32,307 --> 00:04:34,387 Speaker 3: If if they can go wide to wide or go 96 00:04:34,467 --> 00:04:37,147 Speaker 3: through the middle, we don't need these, yeah, I think, yeah, 97 00:04:37,227 --> 00:04:40,427 Speaker 3: so called big bodies. I know he's back in the 98 00:04:40,467 --> 00:04:42,627 Speaker 3: day we need Drome account Kino and like they were 99 00:04:42,707 --> 00:04:45,667 Speaker 3: the enforces and they bought that physicality. But I think 100 00:04:46,027 --> 00:04:48,587 Speaker 3: some of these guys are different these days. So I think, yeah, 101 00:04:48,587 --> 00:04:52,147 Speaker 3: it's just I don't know. Yeah, we'll find out this 102 00:04:52,587 --> 00:04:54,547 Speaker 3: tomorrow morning if it was a good call or not, 103 00:04:54,787 --> 00:04:56,987 Speaker 3: and if they could stand up against England. 104 00:04:57,307 --> 00:04:59,467 Speaker 2: So what goes on to the bench. And there's been 105 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:02,547 Speaker 2: a lot of talk in recent times about how important 106 00:05:02,867 --> 00:05:05,747 Speaker 2: the bench is, and in many ways, I think there's 107 00:05:05,787 --> 00:05:08,067 Speaker 2: been an hour tow of that. You know, those players 108 00:05:08,067 --> 00:05:10,987 Speaker 2: who where Jerseys sixteen to twenty three are just as 109 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:14,747 Speaker 2: important as jersey's one to fifteen. But as a player, Thomas, 110 00:05:15,227 --> 00:05:18,427 Speaker 2: you know, take us inside the mindset there you always 111 00:05:18,467 --> 00:05:19,387 Speaker 2: want to start. 112 00:05:20,907 --> 00:05:22,707 Speaker 3: For me, it was always starting, and I think it's 113 00:05:22,707 --> 00:05:25,987 Speaker 3: always sort of always been hard being behind Jerry Rodney 114 00:05:25,987 --> 00:05:28,267 Speaker 3: and Chris You sort of when you've got an opportunity, 115 00:05:28,307 --> 00:05:32,027 Speaker 3: you wanted to take it and like fall stride and 116 00:05:32,627 --> 00:05:35,027 Speaker 3: take off both hands. But I think sometimes I think 117 00:05:35,147 --> 00:05:36,467 Speaker 3: back in the day, I think when you were on 118 00:05:36,507 --> 00:05:40,627 Speaker 3: the bench, you potentially could only get ten, five fifteen minutes. 119 00:05:40,827 --> 00:05:42,787 Speaker 3: I know we get a little bit longer these days 120 00:05:42,827 --> 00:05:45,427 Speaker 3: because of the games changing and they might get twenty 121 00:05:45,467 --> 00:05:48,347 Speaker 3: five to thirty minutes, but sort of been whiles back 122 00:05:48,387 --> 00:05:50,827 Speaker 3: playing year, it was sort of reserved, was sort of 123 00:05:51,347 --> 00:05:55,227 Speaker 3: you might get ten minutes at the most. So yeah, 124 00:05:55,267 --> 00:05:58,667 Speaker 3: starting was always the goal to get there and try 125 00:05:58,707 --> 00:06:01,307 Speaker 3: to prove yourself. But yeah, I think I think front 126 00:06:01,347 --> 00:06:03,587 Speaker 3: roll is a little bit different, like with Twidy Williams 127 00:06:03,587 --> 00:06:06,307 Speaker 3: coming on and stuff like that. Those big bodies, they 128 00:06:06,427 --> 00:06:08,387 Speaker 3: they make a difference. But I think loose swards and 129 00:06:08,987 --> 00:06:10,667 Speaker 3: stuff like they're trying to get into a game is 130 00:06:10,667 --> 00:06:13,707 Speaker 3: pretty hard sometimes if you only get out limited amount 131 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:14,147 Speaker 3: of minutes. 132 00:06:14,747 --> 00:06:17,627 Speaker 2: England haven't beaten the All Blacks since twenty nineteen in 133 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:21,387 Speaker 2: the Rugby World Cup semi final that year. They haven't 134 00:06:21,467 --> 00:06:24,747 Speaker 2: beaten the All Blacks at twicken Him since twenty twelve. 135 00:06:25,107 --> 00:06:26,947 Speaker 2: How desperate at England going to beat a chal cup 136 00:06:26,947 --> 00:06:27,427 Speaker 2: of victory? 137 00:06:28,147 --> 00:06:30,547 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think they're well and that's the thing they've 138 00:06:30,867 --> 00:06:32,707 Speaker 3: and I think you're watching them and stuff like that, 139 00:06:32,787 --> 00:06:36,267 Speaker 3: and they all backs will be under pressure on their 140 00:06:36,267 --> 00:06:38,947 Speaker 3: line speed. England will come with massive line speed. They'll 141 00:06:38,987 --> 00:06:41,467 Speaker 3: get in their faces, they'll celebrate all these little knock 142 00:06:41,507 --> 00:06:45,827 Speaker 3: ons like Mariotoji and been Hill. It's from the Saracens, 143 00:06:45,867 --> 00:06:48,307 Speaker 3: things like that. Any sort of pressure you put on 144 00:06:48,347 --> 00:06:50,147 Speaker 3: and you make a mistake, they'll be in their faces 145 00:06:50,187 --> 00:06:52,707 Speaker 3: and trying to put pressure as much pressure on as possible. 146 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:55,427 Speaker 3: So I think have to be wary of I think 147 00:06:55,427 --> 00:06:58,187 Speaker 3: England and I know the Four Test, but I think 148 00:06:58,227 --> 00:07:00,907 Speaker 3: this is the big one that they've been working towards. 149 00:07:00,907 --> 00:07:04,067 Speaker 3: I think Fezi was sort of a second string team 150 00:07:04,067 --> 00:07:06,547 Speaker 3: they've put out, but I think behind closed doors be 151 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:10,667 Speaker 3: working real hard for this game. On Tomorrow morning, if the. 152 00:07:10,667 --> 00:07:12,747 Speaker 2: All Blacks do win this, they're on track for a 153 00:07:12,787 --> 00:07:16,587 Speaker 2: Grand Slam and I'll likely beat Wales, so they'll probably 154 00:07:16,587 --> 00:07:19,147 Speaker 2: finish the year eleven wins, two losses. If they were 155 00:07:19,187 --> 00:07:22,027 Speaker 2: to lose this Test, it'll be three losses this year, 156 00:07:22,067 --> 00:07:24,747 Speaker 2: no Grand Slam. Does it almost feel as though I 157 00:07:24,827 --> 00:07:27,547 Speaker 2: don't know the entire year could be defined by this 158 00:07:27,627 --> 00:07:28,427 Speaker 2: one Test match. 159 00:07:29,707 --> 00:07:31,987 Speaker 3: Well, I shouldn't be, but I think it's more of 160 00:07:32,067 --> 00:07:34,147 Speaker 3: the way that babies are playing and stuff like that 161 00:07:34,187 --> 00:07:37,507 Speaker 3: at the moment. I think that's the question of as 162 00:07:38,027 --> 00:07:41,667 Speaker 3: the World Cup around the corner, is the style baby's 163 00:07:41,707 --> 00:07:44,427 Speaker 3: are painters the world class and stuff like that than 164 00:07:44,467 --> 00:07:47,107 Speaker 3: what we're used to seeing with some of the players 165 00:07:47,187 --> 00:07:48,867 Speaker 3: on top of the on top of the game and 166 00:07:48,987 --> 00:07:53,347 Speaker 3: doing special things. I think that's for me been watching it, 167 00:07:53,667 --> 00:07:56,467 Speaker 3: that's what I'll be probably judging more the results come 168 00:07:56,507 --> 00:07:57,907 Speaker 3: and go and stuff. But I think it's the way 169 00:07:57,987 --> 00:08:01,467 Speaker 3: that they're playing and entertaining and stuff like that, which 170 00:08:01,547 --> 00:08:02,547 Speaker 3: is I think is a big key. 171 00:08:03,467 --> 00:08:07,387 Speaker 2: What's twicking them like to play at It's amazing. 172 00:08:07,427 --> 00:08:10,147 Speaker 3: It's one of the craziest feelings because you get on 173 00:08:10,187 --> 00:08:13,667 Speaker 3: a bus and you arrive and everyone's everyone's around the 174 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:16,147 Speaker 3: ground because they've got the bars and everyone and the 175 00:08:16,187 --> 00:08:19,707 Speaker 3: hospitality starts early and you get off the bus. Especially 176 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:24,107 Speaker 3: for England when I was on the home team, it 177 00:08:24,187 --> 00:08:26,827 Speaker 3: was awesome because yet everyone comes out and sees her 178 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:29,427 Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah on the out on the gates and 179 00:08:29,427 --> 00:08:33,427 Speaker 3: there's probably about forty thousand people watching you, and then 180 00:08:33,547 --> 00:08:35,107 Speaker 3: sort of for the home game as well, you might 181 00:08:35,147 --> 00:08:37,467 Speaker 3: get a few good booze. But yeah, when you walk 182 00:08:37,547 --> 00:08:40,507 Speaker 3: through and the golden gate opens up and it's like 183 00:08:40,587 --> 00:08:43,587 Speaker 3: around about the bus goes down, it's yeah, it's pretty special. 184 00:08:43,627 --> 00:08:46,507 Speaker 3: It's unreal and amazingly part of it. 185 00:08:46,627 --> 00:08:48,507 Speaker 2: And what's it like underneath like as you as you're 186 00:08:48,507 --> 00:08:50,587 Speaker 2: getting ready and then when you come out, like can 187 00:08:50,627 --> 00:08:51,987 Speaker 2: you feel the history of the place. 188 00:08:52,507 --> 00:08:55,307 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, and that's the change rooms are massive 189 00:08:55,347 --> 00:08:59,147 Speaker 3: as well. They've got the old iron bars in there 190 00:08:59,147 --> 00:09:01,747 Speaker 3: as well. They use them every every now and then. 191 00:09:01,787 --> 00:09:04,707 Speaker 3: But I think it's just the the grand scale of 192 00:09:04,747 --> 00:09:07,307 Speaker 3: it all. It's just as next level and yeah, all 193 00:09:07,307 --> 00:09:10,467 Speaker 3: the history of all the players that play test matches 194 00:09:10,507 --> 00:09:13,987 Speaker 3: on the wall and all the member Vallier and stuff 195 00:09:13,987 --> 00:09:16,027 Speaker 3: all around us. Yeah, it's pretty special place to be 196 00:09:16,427 --> 00:09:17,827 Speaker 3: a part of. We love their. 197 00:09:17,747 --> 00:09:20,387 Speaker 2: Rugby over here, Thomas as, you know, what are the 198 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:23,707 Speaker 2: England rugby public like. I mean it's big football country, right, 199 00:09:23,707 --> 00:09:27,187 Speaker 2: they love their football. What are the England rugby public like? 200 00:09:28,027 --> 00:09:30,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're sort of the same as New gentlemen. They're 201 00:09:30,387 --> 00:09:34,667 Speaker 3: very passionate. They want you to always win, and but 202 00:09:34,747 --> 00:09:37,187 Speaker 3: there's a thing like all the to sell out eighty 203 00:09:37,467 --> 00:09:40,547 Speaker 3: eighty four thousand every week as crazy, so you know 204 00:09:40,627 --> 00:09:43,827 Speaker 3: there's people there that want to watch it and get 205 00:09:43,907 --> 00:09:46,587 Speaker 3: behind the team and stuff like that, so which was yeah, 206 00:09:46,627 --> 00:09:48,427 Speaker 3: but I think they're very much like New gentlemen. Are 207 00:09:48,467 --> 00:09:51,907 Speaker 3: very passionate and they want you to win, and they'll 208 00:09:51,947 --> 00:09:54,547 Speaker 3: be very critical at times as well, but that's just 209 00:09:54,667 --> 00:09:56,507 Speaker 3: part of part of because of the media side of 210 00:09:56,547 --> 00:09:57,867 Speaker 3: things as well, but that's just part of it. 211 00:09:58,347 --> 00:10:04,827 Speaker 2: Got a prediction for us as always, got probably a draw. 212 00:10:05,027 --> 00:10:06,347 Speaker 1: Well, I was in a draw. 213 00:10:06,387 --> 00:10:09,307 Speaker 2: We're actually at Twickenham in ninety seven or twenty six, 214 00:10:09,707 --> 00:10:11,747 Speaker 2: all draw or something. I remember being in a drawn 215 00:10:11,787 --> 00:10:13,507 Speaker 2: Test match, so you reckon it'll be that tight. I 216 00:10:13,547 --> 00:10:15,747 Speaker 2: mean they're normally tired, aren't they. I saw a stat 217 00:10:15,787 --> 00:10:17,907 Speaker 2: that five of the last seven between these two have 218 00:10:17,987 --> 00:10:20,707 Speaker 2: been decided by three points or less, so tight game 219 00:10:20,747 --> 00:10:21,187 Speaker 2: in coming. 220 00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:25,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're very tight and yeah, and a 221 00:10:25,267 --> 00:10:27,067 Speaker 3: goal kicking will come down and goal kicking and stuff 222 00:10:27,107 --> 00:10:30,507 Speaker 3: like it as well. But yeah, yeah, my Producdan is 223 00:10:30,507 --> 00:10:31,267 Speaker 3: gonna be very tight. 224 00:10:31,627 --> 00:10:33,587 Speaker 2: Great to get your analysis, Thomas. Thanks for joining us 225 00:10:33,587 --> 00:10:36,307 Speaker 2: this afternoon. Finding text mate, No, thank you mate, that 226 00:10:36,427 --> 00:10:39,067 Speaker 2: is Thomas Waldrom, former England loose Ford also played a 227 00:10:39,067 --> 00:10:41,987 Speaker 2: lot for the Hurricanes and for the Crusaders Canterbury as well, 228 00:10:41,987 --> 00:10:44,667 Speaker 2: but a Hawks Bay too and I feel a good 229 00:10:44,667 --> 00:10:46,267 Speaker 2: analyst of the game, Thomas Waldrop. 230 00:10:46,707 --> 00:10:49,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live 231 00:10:49,987 --> 00:10:53,427 Speaker 1: to News Talks b weekends from midday or follow the 232 00:10:53,427 --> 00:10:54,907 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio