1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:12,693 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks be follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,973 --> 00:00:18,773 Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealander, and welcome to Matt and Tyler 4 00:00:18,813 --> 00:00:22,813 Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number one nine eight for Thursday, the 5 00:00:22,933 --> 00:00:25,373 Speaker 2: fourth of September. Once again we went ounce the topic 6 00:00:25,372 --> 00:00:26,973 Speaker 2: and didn't get to it. The topic. We were going 7 00:00:27,053 --> 00:00:32,053 Speaker 2: to talk about things in life that things girl want 8 00:00:32,093 --> 00:00:35,773 Speaker 2: to get bad. No, things in life that you learned 9 00:00:35,773 --> 00:00:38,132 Speaker 2: that you wish you'd learn younger because they made your 10 00:00:38,133 --> 00:00:39,772 Speaker 2: life so much better. I've worded that poorly, but that 11 00:00:39,853 --> 00:00:41,053 Speaker 2: was kind of the topic. We didn't get to it 12 00:00:41,053 --> 00:00:43,213 Speaker 2: do it because we went too hard on festival, so 13 00:00:43,253 --> 00:00:45,172 Speaker 2: many people ring about how hard it us to do festival. 14 00:00:45,253 --> 00:00:49,412 Speaker 2: Some really interesting stories there about the complexities and the 15 00:00:49,452 --> 00:00:53,612 Speaker 2: insanity of council and police regulations, anti fun police are 16 00:00:53,653 --> 00:00:57,133 Speaker 2: and trying to put something on and then boy oh boy, 17 00:00:57,213 --> 00:01:00,293 Speaker 2: all that parking or that driving chat. So many gray 18 00:01:00,293 --> 00:01:02,853 Speaker 2: areas on the road non stop on the phone line, 19 00:01:03,053 --> 00:01:05,973 Speaker 2: so many gray areas on the bloody roads. Yep, and 20 00:01:06,013 --> 00:01:07,813 Speaker 2: some good numpty chat as well, so you look out 21 00:01:07,813 --> 00:01:12,653 Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, that's right. Tyler has some very soft 22 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,653 Speaker 2: turns of phrase link and poop. 23 00:01:14,853 --> 00:01:16,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nannie Heimer. 24 00:01:17,173 --> 00:01:18,613 Speaker 2: Cotton headed, Nannie Muggins. 25 00:01:18,613 --> 00:01:20,812 Speaker 4: I'm going to use that right that one down download, 26 00:01:21,173 --> 00:01:22,853 Speaker 4: subscribe and give us a review. 27 00:01:23,053 --> 00:01:24,652 Speaker 2: And give them a taste to key we sent busy. 28 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:25,812 Speaker 5: I'll let you listen to the pod. 29 00:01:25,973 --> 00:01:27,533 Speaker 2: We love you big. 30 00:01:27,453 --> 00:01:32,372 Speaker 1: Stories, the leg issues, the big trends and everything in between. 31 00:01:32,733 --> 00:01:36,373 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news Talk said. 32 00:01:36,212 --> 00:01:40,333 Speaker 4: The good day to you. Welcome into Thursday show. It 33 00:01:40,413 --> 00:01:42,813 Speaker 4: is seven pass one, so good to have you with 34 00:01:42,893 --> 00:01:44,133 Speaker 4: us as always, good man. 35 00:01:44,173 --> 00:01:46,212 Speaker 2: Can it Tyler get everyone, thanks so much for tuning 36 00:01:46,253 --> 00:01:48,613 Speaker 2: in to the show. We've cobbled together and excellent a 37 00:01:48,653 --> 00:01:52,333 Speaker 2: few hours of talkback for you. Now. The show at 38 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:55,453 Speaker 2: the moment is known as Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons, 39 00:01:55,453 --> 00:01:57,333 Speaker 2: but I want to put it to the listenership on 40 00:01:57,413 --> 00:01:59,013 Speaker 2: nine two nine two that we changed the name of 41 00:01:59,013 --> 00:02:03,172 Speaker 2: the show to Matt Heath and Tyler Swift Afternoons because, 42 00:02:03,213 --> 00:02:06,173 Speaker 2: as I've say to you before, Tyler, some gentlemen came 43 00:02:06,253 --> 00:02:09,613 Speaker 2: up to me and said, what's with all Tyler Swifty 44 00:02:09,773 --> 00:02:11,933 Speaker 2: topics on the show In the last two weeks You've 45 00:02:11,933 --> 00:02:15,413 Speaker 2: been too You had the engagement ring yesterday that were exciting. 46 00:02:15,453 --> 00:02:19,013 Speaker 2: That was a Tyler Swift topic and on the day 47 00:02:19,013 --> 00:02:21,373 Speaker 2: of the engagement you had that. Do we have too 48 00:02:21,453 --> 00:02:23,573 Speaker 2: much Taylor Swift and the media? 49 00:02:23,653 --> 00:02:23,852 Speaker 6: Yeah? 50 00:02:25,213 --> 00:02:28,133 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, nine two nine two. It does roll off 51 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:31,453 Speaker 4: the tongue, doesn't it. Met Heath and Taylor Swift too, 52 00:02:31,453 --> 00:02:32,093 Speaker 4: if you're into that. 53 00:02:32,933 --> 00:02:34,213 Speaker 2: And Taylor Swift afternoons. 54 00:02:34,893 --> 00:02:37,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I think there could be 55 00:02:37,373 --> 00:02:37,653 Speaker 3: a goal. 56 00:02:37,653 --> 00:02:39,853 Speaker 2: We'll send that to the bosses. Well, I'll tell you 57 00:02:39,893 --> 00:02:42,773 Speaker 2: up the votes and if you know more in favorite 58 00:02:42,813 --> 00:02:45,972 Speaker 2: than not, then we'll change the name across all the branding. Yeah. 59 00:02:46,053 --> 00:02:48,573 Speaker 4: All I can say, mate, though, is thank you very 60 00:02:48,653 --> 00:02:50,893 Speaker 4: much for taking the heat for my love of Taylor Swift. 61 00:02:51,493 --> 00:02:53,173 Speaker 4: It's it's the least you could do to be to 62 00:02:53,252 --> 00:02:53,933 Speaker 4: be frank. 63 00:02:53,972 --> 00:02:57,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're semi anonymous. Is anonymous as a purely radio guy, 64 00:02:57,493 --> 00:02:58,053 Speaker 2: aren't you? Yeah? 65 00:02:58,093 --> 00:02:59,293 Speaker 3: I am, which works well for me. 66 00:02:59,733 --> 00:03:02,933 Speaker 4: Right, just before we get into today's show, So Father's Day, 67 00:03:02,972 --> 00:03:06,893 Speaker 4: it's only three days away, and we know there'll be 68 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:09,373 Speaker 4: a lot of people listening at the moment, and you've 69 00:03:09,453 --> 00:03:11,213 Speaker 4: left it to the last minutes. It don't worry, Matt 70 00:03:11,252 --> 00:03:13,173 Speaker 4: has got you sorted. We've got a few downloads of 71 00:03:13,173 --> 00:03:16,013 Speaker 4: his number one best selling audiobook, A Life Less Punishing 72 00:03:16,053 --> 00:03:18,773 Speaker 4: Thirteen Reasons to Love the Life You've Got to give Away, 73 00:03:18,893 --> 00:03:20,933 Speaker 4: read by the man himself. He put a lot of 74 00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:24,133 Speaker 4: hours into that and your dad will be absolutely chuffed 75 00:03:24,133 --> 00:03:26,453 Speaker 4: if you win a copy of this. So it's currently 76 00:03:26,493 --> 00:03:30,853 Speaker 4: available everywhere you get your audio books, Apple, Spotify, Google Play, Audible, 77 00:03:31,013 --> 00:03:33,053 Speaker 4: all of them. But we will give you a chance 78 00:03:33,093 --> 00:03:37,293 Speaker 4: after two pm and three pm today and tomorrow. Just 79 00:03:37,293 --> 00:03:38,613 Speaker 4: stay tuned and we'll tell you how to get in 80 00:03:38,613 --> 00:03:38,973 Speaker 4: that draw. 81 00:03:39,213 --> 00:03:42,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you know I've given it to my 82 00:03:42,253 --> 00:03:45,373 Speaker 2: father before. Yeah, lucky man. Did he pay for it? 83 00:03:45,453 --> 00:03:47,373 Speaker 2: He didn't like it. He didn't like it. No, it did, actually, 84 00:03:47,413 --> 00:03:49,533 Speaker 2: and he paid money for it. He paid money for 85 00:03:50,013 --> 00:03:53,773 Speaker 2: the for the PA they know, the audiobook version, but 86 00:03:53,813 --> 00:03:54,533 Speaker 2: not the paper there. 87 00:03:54,373 --> 00:03:57,173 Speaker 4: Fair enough to yeah, yeah, yeah, no nepotism. Right after 88 00:03:57,333 --> 00:04:00,093 Speaker 4: three o'clock, This is going to be an interesting discussion. 89 00:04:00,133 --> 00:04:02,732 Speaker 4: What improved your quality of life so much that you'd 90 00:04:02,733 --> 00:04:03,893 Speaker 4: wish you'd done it sooner? 91 00:04:04,533 --> 00:04:07,133 Speaker 2: Yeah? This is blown up on the internet as a question. 92 00:04:07,253 --> 00:04:09,773 Speaker 2: It's everywhere across social media and there's a lot of 93 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:12,293 Speaker 2: different answers out there. But you know, it's kind of 94 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:15,533 Speaker 2: a version of you know, what would I do now 95 00:04:16,093 --> 00:04:21,093 Speaker 2: if I was when I was younger? You know that 96 00:04:21,173 --> 00:04:22,253 Speaker 2: song yeah love me song? 97 00:04:22,373 --> 00:04:22,573 Speaker 6: Yeah? 98 00:04:22,653 --> 00:04:24,813 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's kind of that that because you know, 99 00:04:25,253 --> 00:04:26,773 Speaker 2: you get a bit older, you get into your thirties, 100 00:04:26,813 --> 00:04:29,933 Speaker 2: your forties, and your fifties and your sixties and seventies, 101 00:04:29,933 --> 00:04:31,733 Speaker 2: and you look back and go, gosh, if I'd known 102 00:04:31,773 --> 00:04:33,773 Speaker 2: that when I was twenty five, my life would have 103 00:04:33,813 --> 00:04:35,253 Speaker 2: been a lot easier. If I'd known that when I 104 00:04:35,253 --> 00:04:36,773 Speaker 2: was eighteen, my life would have been a lot easier. 105 00:04:36,853 --> 00:04:38,533 Speaker 3: Yeap, that is going to be a great chet After 106 00:04:38,613 --> 00:04:39,253 Speaker 3: three o'clock. 107 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:42,373 Speaker 4: After two o'clock, we want to talk about gray areas 108 00:04:42,373 --> 00:04:44,173 Speaker 4: of law when it comes to driving. This is after 109 00:04:44,213 --> 00:04:47,373 Speaker 4: an article and many people have come across this recently. 110 00:04:47,413 --> 00:04:50,013 Speaker 4: So you're driving up a suburban street and the road narrows. 111 00:04:50,053 --> 00:04:52,813 Speaker 4: You got cars parked on either side, You're going in 112 00:04:52,853 --> 00:04:55,013 Speaker 4: one direction, you see someone coming in the other direction, 113 00:04:55,093 --> 00:04:56,533 Speaker 4: and you hit that part. 114 00:04:56,373 --> 00:04:59,013 Speaker 3: Of the road at the same time. Who gives way? 115 00:04:59,413 --> 00:05:02,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of gray areas like that. Look, 116 00:05:02,133 --> 00:05:04,013 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that don't know the road code. 117 00:05:04,013 --> 00:05:05,973 Speaker 2: At all across the board. You see that every day. 118 00:05:06,013 --> 00:05:08,933 Speaker 2: That's me. But there's also some gray areas. You know, 119 00:05:08,933 --> 00:05:10,973 Speaker 2: there's so many variables out on the road, this thing, 120 00:05:11,173 --> 00:05:14,133 Speaker 2: some things that aren't set in stone. Yeah, looking forward 121 00:05:14,133 --> 00:05:14,293 Speaker 2: to it. 122 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:17,813 Speaker 4: I mean someone text and before about an obscure law 123 00:05:17,813 --> 00:05:19,893 Speaker 4: when it comes to pedestrian crossings that I had no 124 00:05:19,973 --> 00:05:20,493 Speaker 4: idea about. 125 00:05:20,613 --> 00:05:23,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, before pedestrian crossing on the road, there is a 126 00:05:23,133 --> 00:05:26,213 Speaker 2: big white diamond. If an approaching car is already in 127 00:05:26,253 --> 00:05:29,213 Speaker 2: between that diamond and the crossing, then the pedestrian should 128 00:05:29,253 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 2: give way to the car. I mean, as a driver, 129 00:05:31,453 --> 00:05:33,253 Speaker 2: you don't want to enforce that one by plowing through 130 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:34,013 Speaker 2: people crossing. 131 00:05:34,173 --> 00:05:34,413 Speaker 7: Yeah. 132 00:05:34,813 --> 00:05:38,333 Speaker 2: Actually, look I was already between the diamond and the crossing, 133 00:05:38,373 --> 00:05:39,533 Speaker 2: so I'm not going to break here. 134 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:42,053 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, how well would that go in court? But 135 00:05:42,093 --> 00:05:44,893 Speaker 4: that is after two o'clock and just before we get 136 00:05:44,933 --> 00:05:48,693 Speaker 4: to the topic right now. So a couple of ideas 137 00:05:48,693 --> 00:05:50,693 Speaker 4: for the new name for the show, Matt Heath and 138 00:05:50,773 --> 00:05:51,613 Speaker 4: Shifty Swifty. 139 00:05:52,653 --> 00:05:54,213 Speaker 2: You're happy with Shifty Swifty. 140 00:05:53,973 --> 00:05:57,733 Speaker 3: I'll take it the Matt Damon and the Taylor Swift Show. 141 00:05:57,773 --> 00:06:00,253 Speaker 2: I think what they mean is it Mer Booeman and 142 00:06:01,013 --> 00:06:04,333 Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift show from the Team America situation. That's 143 00:06:04,373 --> 00:06:06,413 Speaker 2: not a bit. Yeah, we all on board, but we're 144 00:06:06,413 --> 00:06:08,013 Speaker 2: not looking to change my name in it. We just 145 00:06:08,053 --> 00:06:11,053 Speaker 2: sort of of trying to look at acknowledging your love 146 00:06:11,293 --> 00:06:14,373 Speaker 2: of Taylor Swift by calling it the Tyler Swift and 147 00:06:14,373 --> 00:06:15,293 Speaker 2: Matt each. 148 00:06:15,053 --> 00:06:18,293 Speaker 4: Everything will be considered right on to the discussion. Now, 149 00:06:18,293 --> 00:06:20,133 Speaker 4: this will be a good one. The government is promising 150 00:06:20,173 --> 00:06:23,813 Speaker 4: to change or make some significant significant changes rather to 151 00:06:23,853 --> 00:06:26,573 Speaker 4: special licensing rules to make it easier for organizers to 152 00:06:26,773 --> 00:06:29,933 Speaker 4: run events. So it builds on last week's alcohol law 153 00:06:30,093 --> 00:06:32,373 Speaker 4: changes that made it simpler for ministers to declare one 154 00:06:32,373 --> 00:06:35,333 Speaker 4: off special trading hours for pubs and clubs who screen 155 00:06:35,373 --> 00:06:38,893 Speaker 4: major sport and cultural events. So the new changes effectively 156 00:06:39,053 --> 00:06:43,453 Speaker 4: simplify what was a very complex process around special licensing 157 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:47,693 Speaker 4: applications to ensure consistent decision making throughout the country. 158 00:06:47,853 --> 00:06:49,813 Speaker 2: So you're happy with these measures, you think it should 159 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:53,693 Speaker 2: go further. I personally believe that councils and government should, 160 00:06:53,733 --> 00:06:56,253 Speaker 2: instead of making it difficult for events to go head 161 00:06:56,293 --> 00:07:00,173 Speaker 2: should be absolutely rolling out the red, blue, and green 162 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,413 Speaker 2: and whatever cover carpet to make sure that these things happen. 163 00:07:03,453 --> 00:07:05,533 Speaker 2: Because they're so good for society, they're so good for 164 00:07:05,533 --> 00:07:08,573 Speaker 2: the community, and they're so good for local economies. So 165 00:07:08,693 --> 00:07:13,373 Speaker 2: if your rules are so outside of what's logical to 166 00:07:13,413 --> 00:07:17,253 Speaker 2: most kiwis and are so convoluted and the wheel has 167 00:07:17,293 --> 00:07:18,933 Speaker 2: to be invented every time someone tries to put on 168 00:07:18,973 --> 00:07:22,333 Speaker 2: an event then and events get shut down because of that, 169 00:07:22,413 --> 00:07:24,533 Speaker 2: then you are not doing your job. You're doing the 170 00:07:24,573 --> 00:07:28,093 Speaker 2: exact reverse of your job. And look, as I've said 171 00:07:28,093 --> 00:07:30,813 Speaker 2: at number of times that it feels like the people 172 00:07:30,853 --> 00:07:34,693 Speaker 2: that make these rules are anti anti everyday people and 173 00:07:34,693 --> 00:07:37,773 Speaker 2: what they want to do anti fun. Yeah, anti fun, 174 00:07:37,853 --> 00:07:40,133 Speaker 2: anti fun. So oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 175 00:07:40,173 --> 00:07:43,533 Speaker 2: If you've tried to set up an event and you've 176 00:07:43,573 --> 00:07:46,013 Speaker 2: either succeeded or failed, what were the roadblocks that you 177 00:07:46,133 --> 00:07:48,733 Speaker 2: came up against? We know the god awful road management 178 00:07:48,773 --> 00:07:52,293 Speaker 2: plans obviously going through the special licensing committees. Does the 179 00:07:52,373 --> 00:07:54,653 Speaker 2: council and the government just need to get out of 180 00:07:54,653 --> 00:07:59,213 Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, And look what insane conditions have you 181 00:07:59,373 --> 00:08:03,173 Speaker 2: seen at events that have been imposed on events? Crazy 182 00:08:03,373 --> 00:08:06,813 Speaker 2: setups that you've seen because we've all been to things 183 00:08:06,813 --> 00:08:09,053 Speaker 2: and go, this is just making it so much more 184 00:08:09,093 --> 00:08:10,973 Speaker 2: difficult for us to have a good time. Yeah, and 185 00:08:11,653 --> 00:08:13,933 Speaker 2: often the event managers, you know, and the people putting 186 00:08:13,933 --> 00:08:15,413 Speaker 2: on the event get blamed for this and it turns 187 00:08:15,413 --> 00:08:21,813 Speaker 2: out it's just you know, multi council cross insanity, Yeah, 188 00:08:21,893 --> 00:08:25,173 Speaker 2: with people just making up rules because they enjoy the 189 00:08:25,213 --> 00:08:27,053 Speaker 2: feeling of imposing power on other people. 190 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:29,973 Speaker 4: Get an Oh, hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 191 00:08:29,973 --> 00:08:31,653 Speaker 4: to call coming up. We're going to have a chat 192 00:08:31,653 --> 00:08:34,293 Speaker 4: with Brent Eckles, one of our most well known and 193 00:08:34,333 --> 00:08:37,933 Speaker 4: successful event promoters. He is coming up very shortly, but 194 00:08:38,053 --> 00:08:40,773 Speaker 4: taking your calls on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 195 00:08:40,813 --> 00:08:43,132 Speaker 2: It is fourteen past one. Quite like the suggestion of 196 00:08:43,173 --> 00:08:45,813 Speaker 2: famous are the Beavis and but Ed show. How'll you 197 00:08:45,892 --> 00:08:46,293 Speaker 2: work with that? 198 00:08:46,413 --> 00:08:46,653 Speaker 8: Yeah? 199 00:08:46,653 --> 00:08:47,132 Speaker 2: That's good. 200 00:08:48,173 --> 00:08:51,573 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 201 00:08:51,892 --> 00:08:52,852 Speaker 1: everything in between. 202 00:08:53,093 --> 00:08:56,012 Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks. 203 00:08:56,012 --> 00:08:56,333 Speaker 6: That'd be. 204 00:08:58,132 --> 00:09:00,333 Speaker 4: Very good afternoon to you. So the government is promising 205 00:09:00,372 --> 00:09:02,893 Speaker 4: big changes to special licensing rules to make it easier 206 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:06,613 Speaker 4: for organizers to run the events. If you're affected by this, 207 00:09:06,732 --> 00:09:09,052 Speaker 4: love to hear from you or what row blocks did 208 00:09:09,093 --> 00:09:11,973 Speaker 4: you face when trying to run an event? But one 209 00:09:11,973 --> 00:09:15,013 Speaker 4: of our most successful and well known promoters and Australasia 210 00:09:15,132 --> 00:09:17,813 Speaker 4: is Brent Equals and Brent is on the line. 211 00:09:17,852 --> 00:09:18,573 Speaker 2: Now very good. 212 00:09:18,453 --> 00:09:20,813 Speaker 6: Afternoon, Well, good afternoon to you. 213 00:09:21,372 --> 00:09:24,132 Speaker 2: Good mate. Now, have you in the past had to 214 00:09:24,173 --> 00:09:27,132 Speaker 2: give up on gigs and events because of the licensing 215 00:09:27,173 --> 00:09:27,893 Speaker 2: red tape? 216 00:09:30,053 --> 00:09:33,573 Speaker 9: Well, I don't know about give up, but it can 217 00:09:33,612 --> 00:09:36,973 Speaker 9: make it very very tricky and it can be you know, 218 00:09:37,053 --> 00:09:39,573 Speaker 9: disappointing for the punters when they when they can't do 219 00:09:39,653 --> 00:09:42,493 Speaker 9: what you want to do and have a act like 220 00:09:43,372 --> 00:09:45,372 Speaker 9: act like they wouldn't a normal life and be able 221 00:09:45,372 --> 00:09:47,613 Speaker 9: to get a drink or a couple of drinks which 222 00:09:47,653 --> 00:09:50,252 Speaker 9: will shout for their mates, and it makes it difficult. 223 00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:52,573 Speaker 6: So we like to have gigs that run smoothly. 224 00:09:53,252 --> 00:09:56,053 Speaker 9: Most of us are very responsible, so we just feel 225 00:09:56,093 --> 00:09:57,852 Speaker 9: that every time we have. 226 00:09:57,813 --> 00:09:59,652 Speaker 6: To go to a special license there should. 227 00:09:59,372 --> 00:10:03,093 Speaker 9: Be some you know, some easy and easier way through, 228 00:10:03,653 --> 00:10:04,013 Speaker 9: I guess. 229 00:10:04,973 --> 00:10:07,612 Speaker 2: So do you like what you've seen from these changes? 230 00:10:07,612 --> 00:10:09,893 Speaker 2: What but to good? And do they go far enough? 231 00:10:10,933 --> 00:10:11,093 Speaker 6: Well? 232 00:10:11,132 --> 00:10:13,573 Speaker 9: The thing is that you know the Associate myst of 233 00:10:13,653 --> 00:10:17,053 Speaker 9: Justice and Nicole McKee is she's a good listener and 234 00:10:17,093 --> 00:10:19,893 Speaker 9: she's an advocate of us, so she's she has started 235 00:10:19,933 --> 00:10:22,933 Speaker 9: this process of undoing the red tape, which is kind 236 00:10:22,933 --> 00:10:25,933 Speaker 9: of a really good step in the process that she's 237 00:10:26,012 --> 00:10:29,533 Speaker 9: listening and she agrees with us that it's just crazy. 238 00:10:29,653 --> 00:10:31,213 Speaker 6: So this is the first step. 239 00:10:31,252 --> 00:10:33,333 Speaker 9: It's not the ultimate answer, but it's the first step, 240 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,213 Speaker 9: and it's we're going to get into a good position. 241 00:10:35,333 --> 00:10:36,093 Speaker 6: I can just feel it. 242 00:10:36,492 --> 00:10:38,893 Speaker 2: So how can can you see how it would if 243 00:10:38,892 --> 00:10:41,853 Speaker 2: the nationally applied framework which they're suggesting, so you don't 244 00:10:41,852 --> 00:10:45,173 Speaker 2: have to reinvent the wheel every time, How would that 245 00:10:45,293 --> 00:10:47,612 Speaker 2: change the way you go about managing events? 246 00:10:48,413 --> 00:10:50,732 Speaker 9: Well, maybe it's because it's based on We'll say, for me, 247 00:10:51,132 --> 00:10:54,013 Speaker 9: for example, if equals Entertainment is running an event, we 248 00:10:54,132 --> 00:10:58,093 Speaker 9: have a reputation that is reflected in the process. So 249 00:10:58,413 --> 00:11:00,413 Speaker 9: it's you know, if we've been good at what we 250 00:11:00,492 --> 00:11:03,413 Speaker 9: do and we say we we say that we're going 251 00:11:03,453 --> 00:11:05,172 Speaker 9: to do something and actually do it, then we have 252 00:11:05,213 --> 00:11:07,693 Speaker 9: an easier road through then perhaps someone who's doing it 253 00:11:07,693 --> 00:11:09,453 Speaker 9: for the first time. And I think that's kind of 254 00:11:09,492 --> 00:11:12,492 Speaker 9: the basis of what this is all about. And it's 255 00:11:12,533 --> 00:11:15,093 Speaker 9: also recognizing that kiwis like to drink. 256 00:11:15,453 --> 00:11:16,453 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a fact. 257 00:11:16,492 --> 00:11:21,773 Speaker 9: I mean, alcohol is as in our community. So you 258 00:11:21,813 --> 00:11:23,893 Speaker 9: start making rules and where do you end up. You 259 00:11:23,973 --> 00:11:26,053 Speaker 9: end up with prohibition and that's not going to work. 260 00:11:26,573 --> 00:11:28,653 Speaker 9: I mean, trying to stop people drinking is not going 261 00:11:28,732 --> 00:11:31,133 Speaker 9: to work. And it seems that there are people in 262 00:11:31,252 --> 00:11:34,533 Speaker 9: responsible positions who just are trying to make that happen 263 00:11:34,612 --> 00:11:35,732 Speaker 9: and it's just not going to fly. 264 00:11:36,453 --> 00:11:39,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that have you thought because I've said this 265 00:11:39,813 --> 00:11:41,492 Speaker 2: and I want to if I'm over eggining egging it, 266 00:11:41,573 --> 00:11:43,693 Speaker 2: But it seems that a lot of these rules are 267 00:11:43,732 --> 00:11:48,853 Speaker 2: made by insane activists who are pushing an agenda that's 268 00:11:48,852 --> 00:11:52,533 Speaker 2: outside what most kiwis would think. They the way they 269 00:11:52,533 --> 00:11:56,172 Speaker 2: want their events to be run, and which begs the 270 00:11:56,213 --> 00:11:58,293 Speaker 2: sort of question, who's making the national rules are going 271 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:00,253 Speaker 2: to be the same people that make the national rules 272 00:12:00,293 --> 00:12:03,133 Speaker 2: as have made these insane, insane rules. 273 00:12:04,173 --> 00:12:07,813 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's sort of simple. The try agency 274 00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:11,253 Speaker 9: has been Alcohol Harmed Police and Health. There are people 275 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:14,933 Speaker 9: in those organizations. I respect what they do, but they 276 00:12:15,132 --> 00:12:19,292 Speaker 9: are just don't get it, don't understand events and consider 277 00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:21,852 Speaker 9: events that's dangerous. So they try to do everything they 278 00:12:21,892 --> 00:12:24,573 Speaker 9: can to make it difficult and hard to run, and 279 00:12:24,973 --> 00:12:27,372 Speaker 9: that's really unfair. I think the idea is that's going 280 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:28,693 Speaker 9: to they're going to move away from that. 281 00:12:30,453 --> 00:12:33,492 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just yeah, sorry, god. 282 00:12:33,573 --> 00:12:35,132 Speaker 4: Well I was just going to say so so dicky 283 00:12:35,252 --> 00:12:38,173 Speaker 4: rules like we've seen the likes of Electric Care, for example, 284 00:12:38,173 --> 00:12:41,652 Speaker 4: they kicked off on this one about one drink minimum rules. 285 00:12:42,573 --> 00:12:44,133 Speaker 4: When you're at a first of all, it's a day 286 00:12:44,132 --> 00:12:46,973 Speaker 4: long thing. You're there to enjoy yourself and have maximum 287 00:12:47,012 --> 00:12:49,533 Speaker 4: sorry maximum a one drink per person. Is that the 288 00:12:49,573 --> 00:12:51,892 Speaker 4: sort of dicky rules that hopefully will be affected by 289 00:12:51,933 --> 00:12:53,053 Speaker 4: some of these these changes. 290 00:12:53,933 --> 00:12:56,053 Speaker 9: Well, yes it will be because if you have me 291 00:12:56,093 --> 00:12:58,412 Speaker 9: speak on this before, there are so many security and 292 00:12:58,773 --> 00:13:02,653 Speaker 9: alcohol prevention people at those gigs more than anywhere. Why 293 00:13:02,693 --> 00:13:05,012 Speaker 9: would you Why would you constrain a gig like that? 294 00:13:05,132 --> 00:13:07,333 Speaker 9: What if I said to you, guys, can I buy 295 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:08,973 Speaker 9: you a drink? You said, yeah, bread, Oh should I 296 00:13:09,012 --> 00:13:11,973 Speaker 9: can't only buy one? So I'll go back three times? 297 00:13:11,973 --> 00:13:15,613 Speaker 6: Should I? What is going on here? It's just really 298 00:13:15,852 --> 00:13:16,492 Speaker 6: it's crazy. 299 00:13:16,612 --> 00:13:18,333 Speaker 2: I mean, and I've said this to year before when 300 00:13:18,372 --> 00:13:20,413 Speaker 2: we've interview in the past, and yet those people on 301 00:13:20,453 --> 00:13:22,493 Speaker 2: the way home can go to a bottle store and 302 00:13:22,533 --> 00:13:26,013 Speaker 2: buy fifteen bottles of one, one, two fives of gin. 303 00:13:26,693 --> 00:13:29,053 Speaker 2: You know, of course they can and when they're not, 304 00:13:29,773 --> 00:13:34,093 Speaker 2: you know, regulated by security in a safe environment. Well, 305 00:13:34,093 --> 00:13:37,253 Speaker 2: this make a real difference for medium and large festivals 306 00:13:37,252 --> 00:13:39,573 Speaker 2: because can you can you see yourself or people in 307 00:13:39,612 --> 00:13:43,252 Speaker 2: the industry doing more, say four hundred to one, nine 308 00:13:43,333 --> 00:13:45,373 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety nine person gigs, because that's whore you 309 00:13:45,372 --> 00:13:46,573 Speaker 2: have to go to the major planning. 310 00:13:47,492 --> 00:13:48,772 Speaker 6: Yes, that's what they're saying. 311 00:13:48,773 --> 00:13:51,012 Speaker 9: You don't have to go to all the major event 312 00:13:51,053 --> 00:13:54,173 Speaker 9: planning when you go up there less than two thousand. Well, 313 00:13:54,173 --> 00:13:56,492 Speaker 9: you still have to be responsible. You can't just go 314 00:13:56,213 --> 00:13:58,973 Speaker 9: you go helpful leather. But you know, it just means 315 00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:00,732 Speaker 9: it won't be as hard. And if it's very sensible, 316 00:14:00,732 --> 00:14:03,573 Speaker 9: because it means the smaller wineries or the smaller outdoor gigs, 317 00:14:03,653 --> 00:14:05,693 Speaker 9: the boot seat things don't have to go because you 318 00:14:05,732 --> 00:14:09,532 Speaker 9: can't it's cost way too much money. So that's very sensible. 319 00:14:09,533 --> 00:14:12,172 Speaker 9: It's a smart move. I think it's all going in 320 00:14:12,213 --> 00:14:12,813 Speaker 9: the right direction. 321 00:14:12,973 --> 00:14:14,252 Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Do you think it's going in the 322 00:14:14,293 --> 00:14:16,012 Speaker 2: right direction? But do you think it goes far enough? 323 00:14:17,612 --> 00:14:19,853 Speaker 9: Well, it's very if you read the professionalase, it's very 324 00:14:19,853 --> 00:14:22,133 Speaker 9: open ended. Yeah, So we just need to keep we 325 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:24,493 Speaker 9: need to keep going. And one of the things they say, 326 00:14:24,573 --> 00:14:27,733 Speaker 9: is is that you know, simple, stable and practical rules. Well, 327 00:14:27,733 --> 00:14:31,253 Speaker 9: I agree that's practical, simple, like kwis what. 328 00:14:31,773 --> 00:14:37,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And Preen Nichols, you know we've we've been 329 00:14:37,133 --> 00:14:40,533 Speaker 2: in business together in the past and and you're one 330 00:14:40,573 --> 00:14:42,013 Speaker 2: of the best in the business. And I know you're 331 00:14:42,013 --> 00:14:44,173 Speaker 2: at the top of this game, so I know you 332 00:14:44,213 --> 00:14:48,013 Speaker 2: love events. But from a societal level, how valuable for 333 00:14:48,053 --> 00:14:50,693 Speaker 2: the community are concerts gags? Events? And what do we 334 00:14:50,773 --> 00:14:52,573 Speaker 2: lose out when they become too hard to put on? 335 00:14:53,653 --> 00:14:53,853 Speaker 6: Yeah? 336 00:14:53,973 --> 00:14:56,053 Speaker 9: I think for the psyching of the of the community, 337 00:14:56,053 --> 00:14:59,333 Speaker 9: they're really good. For the psyche of the constituents that 338 00:14:59,373 --> 00:15:01,412 Speaker 9: you know that they're voting in the government, they're also 339 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:03,973 Speaker 9: very very good. They take you to a place that 340 00:15:04,053 --> 00:15:05,573 Speaker 9: you know you can forget your woes and have a 341 00:15:05,573 --> 00:15:08,133 Speaker 9: good time with your mates and watch a great show 342 00:15:08,173 --> 00:15:10,253 Speaker 9: and whatever level you want to watch it on. But 343 00:15:10,693 --> 00:15:13,213 Speaker 9: I think it's judging by the amount of tickets that 344 00:15:13,253 --> 00:15:16,093 Speaker 9: we sell, people want to go to concerts. There's no 345 00:15:16,133 --> 00:15:18,613 Speaker 9: doubt about it. And I think moving on to something 346 00:15:18,653 --> 00:15:22,093 Speaker 9: else that this major events find they're talking about long 347 00:15:22,173 --> 00:15:24,453 Speaker 9: over d but boys a huge buzz in the industry 348 00:15:24,453 --> 00:15:24,693 Speaker 9: about it. 349 00:15:24,773 --> 00:15:26,453 Speaker 6: Right now, come alive. 350 00:15:26,933 --> 00:15:31,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Brent, fantastic to chat to you as always, 351 00:15:31,573 --> 00:15:33,412 Speaker 3: and it sounds like good news and a step in 352 00:15:33,453 --> 00:15:34,973 Speaker 3: the right direction to really appreciate you. 353 00:15:35,013 --> 00:15:35,373 Speaker 2: Coming on. 354 00:15:35,973 --> 00:15:37,533 Speaker 6: Next time I see you, I buy you a drink. 355 00:15:37,893 --> 00:15:38,573 Speaker 2: I'll buy you four. 356 00:15:39,893 --> 00:15:42,813 Speaker 3: Now we're talking. Go well mate. 357 00:15:42,813 --> 00:15:44,933 Speaker 4: That is Brent equals one of our most well known 358 00:15:45,013 --> 00:15:48,853 Speaker 4: and successful promoters. And Australasia New Zealander. Yeah, great New Zealand, 359 00:15:48,893 --> 00:15:50,813 Speaker 4: both in New Zealand and Australia. So step in the 360 00:15:50,893 --> 00:15:52,893 Speaker 4: right direction. But what do you say, oh one hundred 361 00:15:52,893 --> 00:15:54,853 Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty, if you've tried to put on 362 00:15:54,973 --> 00:15:57,373 Speaker 4: an event, any sort of event, what with the roadblocks 363 00:15:57,413 --> 00:16:00,453 Speaker 4: you've faced and what was some of the ridiculous rules 364 00:16:00,453 --> 00:16:01,373 Speaker 4: that were imposed on you? 365 00:16:01,653 --> 00:16:04,573 Speaker 2: Or are you terrified of your fellow New Zealander and 366 00:16:04,613 --> 00:16:07,053 Speaker 2: you think that they need to be clamped down on 367 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:11,253 Speaker 2: and controlled with an event and that the transport management 368 00:16:11,293 --> 00:16:15,253 Speaker 2: should get harsher and harsher, more road cones and less 369 00:16:15,253 --> 00:16:17,533 Speaker 2: ability to buy drinks when you're watching a band. 370 00:16:17,613 --> 00:16:19,853 Speaker 3: If that's you, by all means, come on through. It 371 00:16:19,933 --> 00:16:22,013 Speaker 3: is twenty four past one leading question. 372 00:16:26,493 --> 00:16:28,933 Speaker 5: A thirteen year unbeaten run. 373 00:16:29,053 --> 00:16:31,373 Speaker 10: Las Oh my goodness. 374 00:16:31,373 --> 00:16:37,412 Speaker 5: Fifty consecutive test matches and South Africa want to end it? 375 00:16:40,213 --> 00:16:42,773 Speaker 2: Shorny Paritoga and the Right Way. 376 00:16:42,773 --> 00:16:46,172 Speaker 1: Borner live commentary if the Rugby Championship continues. 377 00:16:46,453 --> 00:16:48,973 Speaker 5: All Lakes v. 378 00:16:49,213 --> 00:16:53,773 Speaker 1: South Africa live at even Park from six pm Saturday, year. 379 00:16:55,933 --> 00:16:59,053 Speaker 5: With Access Solutions on News Talks'd. 380 00:16:58,573 --> 00:17:02,293 Speaker 2: Be your black Lead. 381 00:17:07,013 --> 00:17:11,373 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight on 382 00:17:11,493 --> 00:17:12,573 Speaker 1: News Talk ZB. 383 00:17:12,573 --> 00:17:14,693 Speaker 4: Twenty seven past one. So the government has promised to 384 00:17:14,693 --> 00:17:17,413 Speaker 4: make some big changes to set up and make it 385 00:17:17,453 --> 00:17:20,413 Speaker 4: easier to set up at all events. Rather for organizers, 386 00:17:20,453 --> 00:17:22,173 Speaker 4: if you're in the game, what roadblocks have you come 387 00:17:22,253 --> 00:17:22,813 Speaker 4: up against? 388 00:17:23,053 --> 00:17:24,773 Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty Yeah, and buying 389 00:17:24,813 --> 00:17:26,253 Speaker 2: in the game. It might just be going along to 390 00:17:26,413 --> 00:17:30,013 Speaker 2: an event or a concert at gig or whatever and 391 00:17:30,253 --> 00:17:35,333 Speaker 2: just notice what seemed to be illogical and overly punitive 392 00:17:35,453 --> 00:17:39,812 Speaker 2: rules around drinking, entry management, traffic management, the whole thing. 393 00:17:39,813 --> 00:17:42,052 Speaker 2: Because I think we've all seen that kind of stuff 394 00:17:42,493 --> 00:17:46,173 Speaker 2: and the event organizers take take the heat for that. 395 00:17:46,693 --> 00:17:49,373 Speaker 2: This Stexas says, as Brent still playing the drums, we 396 00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:52,813 Speaker 2: just talked to Brent Eckles before Brent Eckles from Eckles 397 00:17:53,853 --> 00:17:57,893 Speaker 2: Manager Entertainment, Great New Zealander and of course we didn't mention, 398 00:17:57,973 --> 00:18:00,373 Speaker 2: but he was a drummer for Space Waltz, Yes Out 399 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:03,813 Speaker 2: on the Streid, Great song Citizen Band and of course 400 00:18:03,853 --> 00:18:07,213 Speaker 2: the Angels Australian rock is the Angels talented man. I'm 401 00:18:07,253 --> 00:18:10,173 Speaker 2: not sure if Instill playing the drums very good drummer, 402 00:18:10,293 --> 00:18:13,013 Speaker 2: but a son, Matt Ecles incredible drummer, one of the 403 00:18:13,053 --> 00:18:15,173 Speaker 2: best drummers I've ever seen in my life, and he's 404 00:18:15,173 --> 00:18:17,333 Speaker 2: had a very successful drumming career around the world. And 405 00:18:17,373 --> 00:18:19,812 Speaker 2: he is playing drums for Splittings in that reunion that's 406 00:18:19,813 --> 00:18:20,413 Speaker 2: happening down. 407 00:18:20,253 --> 00:18:23,693 Speaker 3: There, having fantastic talented, talented me The Skins are in 408 00:18:23,733 --> 00:18:24,293 Speaker 3: that family. 409 00:18:24,413 --> 00:18:24,693 Speaker 5: Love it. 410 00:18:24,693 --> 00:18:26,493 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 411 00:18:26,493 --> 00:18:27,893 Speaker 3: to call get a Steve. 412 00:18:29,733 --> 00:18:30,213 Speaker 7: Hell Yeah. 413 00:18:30,453 --> 00:18:32,893 Speaker 11: I just want to mention the fact of the Sevens 414 00:18:33,093 --> 00:18:34,613 Speaker 11: used to be one of the Sevens that used to. 415 00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:38,053 Speaker 12: Be really, really good, and I'm not sure who destroyed it, 416 00:18:38,053 --> 00:18:40,253 Speaker 12: but between the council and the police. 417 00:18:40,053 --> 00:18:43,813 Speaker 13: They had enough epiphany that said that was there was too. 418 00:18:43,733 --> 00:18:45,613 Speaker 12: Much drinking and all that sort of carry on, and 419 00:18:46,133 --> 00:18:47,933 Speaker 12: it was the best party I've ever been to and 420 00:18:47,973 --> 00:18:50,133 Speaker 12: I'm pretty sure there'll be a thousands of other people 421 00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:50,853 Speaker 12: who agree with me. 422 00:18:51,093 --> 00:18:52,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one of them. 423 00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:53,773 Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly. 424 00:18:53,813 --> 00:18:55,093 Speaker 12: It was awesome and then all of a sudden the 425 00:18:55,253 --> 00:18:56,973 Speaker 12: police said, you know, we've all been down to one 426 00:18:57,053 --> 00:18:59,973 Speaker 12: drink per of whatever. It was painful, and they just 427 00:19:00,093 --> 00:19:01,373 Speaker 12: slowly but surely they. 428 00:19:01,213 --> 00:19:03,373 Speaker 10: Brought us out of plet us out of a city. 429 00:19:03,853 --> 00:19:05,453 Speaker 7: The other thing will be they had. 430 00:19:05,333 --> 00:19:09,013 Speaker 12: Fifty arrests over a three day period of total of 431 00:19:09,013 --> 00:19:13,333 Speaker 12: seventy five thousand roughly. Yeah, the statistic's going to really help. 432 00:19:14,293 --> 00:19:17,013 Speaker 2: What it is is the sort of arrogance that the 433 00:19:17,173 --> 00:19:19,773 Speaker 2: audience that's turning up to these things isn't the audience 434 00:19:19,813 --> 00:19:21,653 Speaker 2: you want. I think I've seen that with cricket in 435 00:19:21,653 --> 00:19:25,053 Speaker 2: New Zealand. They decided that groups of young men going 436 00:19:25,093 --> 00:19:26,693 Speaker 2: along to the cricket and having a drink wasn't the 437 00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:30,133 Speaker 2: audience they wanted. They wanted, they wanted to change that. 438 00:19:30,213 --> 00:19:33,173 Speaker 2: They wanted families wanted all this. And if you've got 439 00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:35,253 Speaker 2: an audience, you've got to be careful because it's very 440 00:19:35,253 --> 00:19:37,333 Speaker 2: hard to get an audience if you've got a crowd 441 00:19:37,333 --> 00:19:38,573 Speaker 2: of people that want to go. And that was a 442 00:19:38,573 --> 00:19:40,853 Speaker 2: lot of young people wanted to go to the Sevens 443 00:19:40,853 --> 00:19:42,253 Speaker 2: and have a good time and dress up and have 444 00:19:42,293 --> 00:19:46,093 Speaker 2: a party, and Wellington would absolutely buzz over that weekend. 445 00:19:46,413 --> 00:19:48,373 Speaker 2: But they were like, no, these aren't the people that 446 00:19:48,413 --> 00:19:50,213 Speaker 2: we want to go. We want to change this up, 447 00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:54,053 Speaker 2: we want we don't like this. It seems too crazy, 448 00:19:54,893 --> 00:19:57,213 Speaker 2: it seems too anarchistic. And then they shut it down. 449 00:19:57,493 --> 00:19:59,893 Speaker 2: And then they shut it down, the rules down, and 450 00:19:59,933 --> 00:20:03,133 Speaker 2: then the Sevens is gone and we'll never get it back, 451 00:20:03,613 --> 00:20:06,973 Speaker 2: and Wellington is a lesser place for it because once 452 00:20:07,013 --> 00:20:09,493 Speaker 2: a year the city used to just light up. I 453 00:20:09,573 --> 00:20:10,573 Speaker 2: used to go down there every. 454 00:20:10,493 --> 00:20:11,893 Speaker 3: Year, one of the best events in the year. 455 00:20:12,013 --> 00:20:14,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd go around the city everywhere, down by the water, 456 00:20:14,853 --> 00:20:18,413 Speaker 2: on that punishing bridge, everywhere you went, Yeah, on the concourse. 457 00:20:18,573 --> 00:20:22,493 Speaker 2: It was such a vible weekend. And gone. They destroyed it. 458 00:20:22,813 --> 00:20:25,253 Speaker 2: They absolutely destroyed it. And I wonder if any of 459 00:20:25,293 --> 00:20:27,013 Speaker 2: them if ever looked in the mirror and gone, well, 460 00:20:27,253 --> 00:20:30,933 Speaker 2: good on us, we ruined that and thing. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 461 00:20:30,933 --> 00:20:31,653 Speaker 2: I'm renting. 462 00:20:32,533 --> 00:20:35,093 Speaker 4: Well, Steve, I think you'd chare you know a lot 463 00:20:35,093 --> 00:20:36,613 Speaker 4: of what Matt said in that rent? 464 00:20:38,333 --> 00:20:38,813 Speaker 13: Thank you? 465 00:20:38,933 --> 00:20:42,253 Speaker 3: Yeah all right, yr, Yeah, but you're being y yeah, 466 00:20:42,253 --> 00:20:44,613 Speaker 3: because it is when they and we all remember it, 467 00:20:44,653 --> 00:20:48,133 Speaker 3: and they said we want to make it a family atmosphere, 468 00:20:48,253 --> 00:20:48,653 Speaker 3: and of. 469 00:20:48,533 --> 00:20:51,853 Speaker 4: Course everybody who was there for the party and drunk 470 00:20:51,893 --> 00:20:53,532 Speaker 4: people spend a lot of money, all right, they were 471 00:20:53,573 --> 00:20:56,853 Speaker 4: spending so much cash and Wellington bars and then they 472 00:20:56,893 --> 00:20:59,373 Speaker 4: spend the whole week in their hotels, they go and 473 00:20:59,413 --> 00:21:02,733 Speaker 4: buy stuff and retail shops and then like that, sorry, 474 00:21:02,813 --> 00:21:04,533 Speaker 4: we don't want to be a part of this idea 475 00:21:04,573 --> 00:21:05,853 Speaker 4: that we can't have a few drinks. 476 00:21:05,893 --> 00:21:08,613 Speaker 2: So then it was dead. Yeah, unreal. Yeah, well, I 477 00:21:08,653 --> 00:21:11,173 Speaker 2: mean and you think of all the events that just 478 00:21:11,213 --> 00:21:14,813 Speaker 2: haven't happened. Yeah, because people in advance of it went well, 479 00:21:15,453 --> 00:21:17,013 Speaker 2: the rules that they put on. The sevens are going 480 00:21:17,013 --> 00:21:18,773 Speaker 2: to put on stuff. There's great things that could have 481 00:21:18,813 --> 00:21:20,333 Speaker 2: had none of the cities ann and Wellington that have 482 00:21:20,573 --> 00:21:21,093 Speaker 2: never happened. 483 00:21:21,173 --> 00:21:22,173 Speaker 3: Yeah. 484 00:21:22,213 --> 00:21:24,413 Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 485 00:21:24,453 --> 00:21:26,933 Speaker 4: to call if you've recently tried to set up an event. 486 00:21:26,973 --> 00:21:29,173 Speaker 4: What sort of roadblocks did you come up against? And 487 00:21:29,213 --> 00:21:31,693 Speaker 4: are you hoping the council and government will get out 488 00:21:31,733 --> 00:21:33,013 Speaker 4: of the way a little bit with these. 489 00:21:32,853 --> 00:21:33,933 Speaker 2: New changes it. 490 00:21:35,373 --> 00:21:37,453 Speaker 4: They really need now you go, I was just going 491 00:21:37,493 --> 00:21:41,453 Speaker 4: to say it is twenty eight to two, plenty of 492 00:21:41,453 --> 00:21:43,572 Speaker 4: Texas coming through A nine two ninety two. We'll get 493 00:21:43,613 --> 00:21:46,173 Speaker 4: to a few of those shortly headlines with Susie coming up. 494 00:21:48,373 --> 00:21:50,693 Speaker 5: Jus talks it'd be headlines. 495 00:21:50,293 --> 00:21:53,453 Speaker 14: With blue bubble taxis. That's no trouble with a blue bubble. 496 00:21:53,853 --> 00:21:57,413 Speaker 14: Another day on the picket line for striking nurses walking 497 00:21:57,413 --> 00:22:00,173 Speaker 14: off the job for the second time this week. They 498 00:22:00,213 --> 00:22:04,813 Speaker 14: are demanding safer staffing levels. Meanwhile, Health Minister Simeon Brown 499 00:22:04,933 --> 00:22:08,293 Speaker 14: is pushing to solve an ongoing dispute with senior doctors 500 00:22:08,773 --> 00:22:12,173 Speaker 14: over their latest payoffer. He's written to Health New Zealand 501 00:22:12,213 --> 00:22:16,413 Speaker 14: and the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists calling on both 502 00:22:16,533 --> 00:22:21,733 Speaker 14: parties to urgently enter binding arbitration. Tougher rules for immigrants 503 00:22:21,893 --> 00:22:25,093 Speaker 14: breaking New Zealand law. Visa holders who have been here 504 00:22:25,173 --> 00:22:28,613 Speaker 14: less than twenty years will soon be eligible for deportation 505 00:22:28,853 --> 00:22:31,733 Speaker 14: if they commit a serious crime. That is up from 506 00:22:31,773 --> 00:22:35,693 Speaker 14: the existing ten years. David Seymour is leading the chorus 507 00:22:35,733 --> 00:22:40,773 Speaker 14: against proposed planning changes in Auckland. He is concerned intensification 508 00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:44,653 Speaker 14: will take place in areas without the required infrastructure to 509 00:22:44,693 --> 00:22:48,333 Speaker 14: back it up. One of Wellington's Top Craft Breweries has 510 00:22:48,373 --> 00:22:51,453 Speaker 14: thrown a safety net to another at an effort to 511 00:22:51,493 --> 00:22:55,453 Speaker 14: turn the capital around. Garage Project is taking over Fortune 512 00:22:55,493 --> 00:23:00,213 Speaker 14: Favours Central City BREWBA after the company reported a forty 513 00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:04,413 Speaker 14: five percent downturn in revenue. One slip from a race 514 00:23:04,533 --> 00:23:07,413 Speaker 14: horse could change the face of racing for one region. 515 00:23:07,773 --> 00:23:10,613 Speaker 14: Find out more at in zed Herald Premium. Now back 516 00:23:10,653 --> 00:23:12,653 Speaker 14: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 517 00:23:12,253 --> 00:23:13,533 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. 518 00:23:13,573 --> 00:23:13,653 Speaker 6: So. 519 00:23:13,733 --> 00:23:16,213 Speaker 4: The government is promising changes to rules to make it 520 00:23:16,253 --> 00:23:20,973 Speaker 4: easier for organizers to run events, Associate Justice Minister Nicole mckeeth. 521 00:23:21,013 --> 00:23:23,373 Speaker 4: She says that feedback is open. They do want to 522 00:23:23,413 --> 00:23:26,853 Speaker 4: hear from organizers about what needs to change to make 523 00:23:26,893 --> 00:23:29,813 Speaker 4: it easier to run these events, festivals and other So 524 00:23:29,893 --> 00:23:31,733 Speaker 4: keen to hear from you, Oh eight hundred eighty ten 525 00:23:31,813 --> 00:23:33,413 Speaker 4: eighty what needs to change? 526 00:23:33,573 --> 00:23:36,933 Speaker 2: Yeah? And what crazy stuff have you seen at events 527 00:23:36,973 --> 00:23:41,573 Speaker 2: that you went that's stupid? Or do you think it 528 00:23:41,613 --> 00:23:43,373 Speaker 2: should be cracked down on more and you're happy or 529 00:23:43,373 --> 00:23:45,453 Speaker 2: you're happy with the way it is. Afternoon Cricket is 530 00:23:45,453 --> 00:23:47,093 Speaker 2: a good example, says the texture of how the fun 531 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:49,173 Speaker 2: police have killed the atmosphere. We took our kids to 532 00:23:49,213 --> 00:23:51,573 Speaker 2: a cricket game in Alexandra. We have three young boys 533 00:23:51,613 --> 00:23:53,853 Speaker 2: and thought we would take a can of lemonade and 534 00:23:53,893 --> 00:23:55,773 Speaker 2: for them. On the gate. We were searched and told 535 00:23:55,813 --> 00:23:58,333 Speaker 2: we cannot take cans in. Then you go on and 536 00:23:58,373 --> 00:24:01,653 Speaker 2: it costs you a kidney to buy anything there. So 537 00:24:01,853 --> 00:24:04,733 Speaker 2: why by the going some events have made rules that 538 00:24:04,773 --> 00:24:07,253 Speaker 2: price themselves out of the market. Have a great day, Cam, 539 00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:09,893 Speaker 2: Thank you for your text. This Texas says we canceled 540 00:24:09,933 --> 00:24:13,773 Speaker 2: a twelve hundred patron gig on Wahiki Island due for 541 00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:16,613 Speaker 2: the long weekend in February. The council wanted us to 542 00:24:16,653 --> 00:24:20,173 Speaker 2: pay them twenty thousand for a migratory Oh god, a 543 00:24:20,213 --> 00:24:24,453 Speaker 2: migratory bird report. Cheap because our gig went from dusk 544 00:24:24,533 --> 00:24:28,733 Speaker 2: at nine till eleven pm, finishing eleven pm. How weak 545 00:24:28,813 --> 00:24:29,773 Speaker 2: do you think birds are? 546 00:24:30,373 --> 00:24:32,933 Speaker 3: They'll stay away? I mean birds are okay, they'll fly 547 00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:33,533 Speaker 3: somewhere else. 548 00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:36,773 Speaker 2: Humans first, well, said Matt. I honestly couldn't put it 549 00:24:36,773 --> 00:24:39,933 Speaker 2: better myself. SEVENS was shut down after that, damn John 550 00:24:40,013 --> 00:24:42,253 Speaker 2: Campbell program. Yeah, I wonder if John Campbell's ever looked 551 00:24:42,253 --> 00:24:45,093 Speaker 2: in the mirror. You know, his campaign against the Sevens 552 00:24:45,093 --> 00:24:48,373 Speaker 2: and just his team cutting together the worst things they 553 00:24:48,413 --> 00:24:51,893 Speaker 2: could to make it look terrible. And you know, sometimes, 554 00:24:51,933 --> 00:24:53,453 Speaker 2: because I know he's a sports fan, I wonder if 555 00:24:53,493 --> 00:24:55,812 Speaker 2: he if at just in moments of reflection go I 556 00:24:55,973 --> 00:24:58,093 Speaker 2: was a big part of getting the sevens shut down. 557 00:24:58,133 --> 00:24:58,773 Speaker 3: I hope he did. 558 00:24:58,933 --> 00:24:59,973 Speaker 2: Pete, welcome to the show. 559 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:02,573 Speaker 15: How are you going atil? 560 00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:04,813 Speaker 2: Very good? What's your thoughts? 561 00:25:05,493 --> 00:25:10,013 Speaker 15: No, I reckone. They ruined the seamon is such a 562 00:25:10,013 --> 00:25:12,173 Speaker 15: good event and never thought was on my bucket list. 563 00:25:12,213 --> 00:25:13,733 Speaker 15: They took me on away from it because I didn't 564 00:25:13,733 --> 00:25:17,133 Speaker 15: get there there on time. But you know, all these 565 00:25:17,173 --> 00:25:19,213 Speaker 15: health and safety world to have a ruin, I've gone 566 00:25:19,293 --> 00:25:22,013 Speaker 15: over come from here in New Plymouth. Here we had 567 00:25:22,013 --> 00:25:25,893 Speaker 15: the bulge there. You think that you've got old games 568 00:25:25,893 --> 00:25:28,253 Speaker 15: that you said, the Mary Ward a very good job. 569 00:25:29,333 --> 00:25:29,973 Speaker 7: So you go around. 570 00:25:30,013 --> 00:25:31,893 Speaker 15: They used to walk around the walking talkies. They had 571 00:25:31,933 --> 00:25:36,053 Speaker 15: communications with the police or the government's trying to tell 572 00:25:36,133 --> 00:25:39,693 Speaker 15: us they're trying to cut down money on police. Been 573 00:25:39,733 --> 00:25:43,773 Speaker 15: on Tuesday, and if you want your cities to do well, 574 00:25:44,653 --> 00:25:47,973 Speaker 15: you should be encouraging and things. Who said they come 575 00:25:48,013 --> 00:25:51,573 Speaker 15: to your studies, hotels, everybody that does very well out 576 00:25:51,573 --> 00:25:53,133 Speaker 15: of these events, like they said they killed them all 577 00:25:53,173 --> 00:25:55,773 Speaker 15: you guys said before they ruined it whither there's gonna 578 00:25:55,773 --> 00:25:57,733 Speaker 15: be a few people steering on the seat or whatever, 579 00:25:58,493 --> 00:26:00,573 Speaker 15: the streets or whatever. But that's what the police was 580 00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:04,093 Speaker 15: to do. There's not many air grows, so what they 581 00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:06,653 Speaker 15: most people when they gave a constant I've seen them 582 00:26:06,653 --> 00:26:08,293 Speaker 15: myself in the mental a lot of concerts and stuff, 583 00:26:08,893 --> 00:26:11,453 Speaker 15: both drunken people. They are happy they're not there, of course, 584 00:26:11,493 --> 00:26:16,052 Speaker 15: egg row. No, the people are there, of course, that's all. 585 00:26:16,093 --> 00:26:19,013 Speaker 15: That's the points of some sub place, non duty. But 586 00:26:19,093 --> 00:26:21,173 Speaker 15: they have a petty wagon park at the hill, like 587 00:26:21,293 --> 00:26:23,773 Speaker 15: hearing the balls where they might be. But the old 588 00:26:23,773 --> 00:26:26,053 Speaker 15: one gets drunked, is touck them on the petty wagon. 589 00:26:26,173 --> 00:26:28,293 Speaker 15: Tuck him on the selves one night and so oh 590 00:26:28,413 --> 00:26:32,053 Speaker 15: you've you've good to see you. You've changed your ways 591 00:26:32,053 --> 00:26:33,573 Speaker 15: of think and let them go. That's all you have 592 00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:36,493 Speaker 15: to do, and just care it pushed. These events are 593 00:26:36,653 --> 00:26:38,613 Speaker 15: very good for your promises. 594 00:26:39,013 --> 00:26:43,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent. We 595 00:26:43,293 --> 00:26:45,253 Speaker 2: want to we want to roll out the red carpet 596 00:26:45,333 --> 00:26:46,893 Speaker 2: for for for these events. Yeah. 597 00:26:47,933 --> 00:26:52,293 Speaker 4: Nine two is the text number plenty coming through like 598 00:26:52,413 --> 00:26:56,293 Speaker 4: this one. Getay boys, what this will mean, the is 599 00:26:56,373 --> 00:26:58,933 Speaker 4: that people just smuggle their own booze and drugs into 600 00:26:59,053 --> 00:27:02,013 Speaker 4: these festivals. The idea of a one drink maximum is 601 00:27:02,213 --> 00:27:05,853 Speaker 4: such a punishing rule. It's bad for the festival organizers. 602 00:27:05,933 --> 00:27:08,733 Speaker 4: It's bad for us as punters. The only and I 603 00:27:08,813 --> 00:27:11,293 Speaker 4: still go to these festivals is to support those guys. 604 00:27:11,413 --> 00:27:14,853 Speaker 2: But it is a terrible, terrible rule. This Texas makes 605 00:27:14,893 --> 00:27:17,293 Speaker 2: an interesting point, and I think this has been raised 606 00:27:17,373 --> 00:27:20,613 Speaker 2: quite a lot, but the severe alcohol rules just makes 607 00:27:21,333 --> 00:27:23,933 Speaker 2: the kids smuggle drugs or other things into festivals as 608 00:27:23,973 --> 00:27:26,093 Speaker 2: it's too hard to get a drink in them. Yeah, 609 00:27:26,173 --> 00:27:29,773 Speaker 2: I mean that's true. And you know that has been 610 00:27:30,053 --> 00:27:36,173 Speaker 2: the outcome of the increased pressure on alcohol sales and 611 00:27:36,653 --> 00:27:38,493 Speaker 2: shutting them down at events. Is it's just put pushed 612 00:27:38,573 --> 00:27:40,893 Speaker 2: kids to illegal substances. 613 00:27:41,053 --> 00:27:41,213 Speaker 6: Yep. 614 00:27:42,453 --> 00:27:46,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, in my opinion, they can be a 615 00:27:46,893 --> 00:27:48,613 Speaker 2: lot more dangerous because you know, they haven't been put 616 00:27:48,653 --> 00:27:50,813 Speaker 2: together in a factory, they haven't been regulated, they haven't 617 00:27:51,093 --> 00:27:54,812 Speaker 2: they can be anything to the point now where at 618 00:27:54,893 --> 00:27:59,013 Speaker 2: festivals there's stations to check people's drugs. Meanwhile, they could 619 00:27:59,013 --> 00:27:59,533 Speaker 2: just have a drink. 620 00:27:59,693 --> 00:28:02,813 Speaker 4: Exactly, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 621 00:28:02,893 --> 00:28:05,253 Speaker 4: to call what needs to change when it comes to 622 00:28:05,493 --> 00:28:08,213 Speaker 4: setting up a festival, and if you've been to one recently, 623 00:28:08,413 --> 00:28:09,813 Speaker 4: what stupid rules. 624 00:28:09,613 --> 00:28:12,533 Speaker 2: Do you see that absolutely needs some government attention. The 625 00:28:12,653 --> 00:28:14,573 Speaker 2: Texas says they really need to triple the amount of 626 00:28:14,613 --> 00:28:17,653 Speaker 2: road cones. Imagine how safe having three billion road cones 627 00:28:17,693 --> 00:28:18,853 Speaker 2: and one stretch of road would be? 628 00:28:19,253 --> 00:28:23,613 Speaker 5: Very a fresh take on took back. 629 00:28:23,813 --> 00:28:27,213 Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons have your say 630 00:28:27,333 --> 00:28:30,613 Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks that'd be so. 631 00:28:30,733 --> 00:28:33,213 Speaker 4: The government is promising changes to make it easier for 632 00:28:33,373 --> 00:28:37,053 Speaker 4: organizers to run festivals and events. What stupid rules have 633 00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:38,933 Speaker 4: you come across if you have attended one of these 634 00:28:38,933 --> 00:28:42,053 Speaker 4: eventsal festivals? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty sues, 635 00:28:42,373 --> 00:28:43,413 Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. 636 00:28:44,133 --> 00:28:47,773 Speaker 16: Hi boys. I thought you might remember. In January twenty 637 00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:52,533 Speaker 16: twenty three, UB forty had a concert in Nelson and 638 00:28:52,653 --> 00:28:58,333 Speaker 16: I think Dragon went as well, and the organizers had 639 00:28:58,573 --> 00:29:02,293 Speaker 16: applied for the wrong license, which meant because they were 640 00:29:02,373 --> 00:29:05,893 Speaker 16: selling alcohol, they decided, like I'm sure it was the 641 00:29:06,013 --> 00:29:09,053 Speaker 16: day before or on the day that they weren't going 642 00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:11,373 Speaker 16: to let people in under sixteen years. 643 00:29:11,173 --> 00:29:12,573 Speaker 2: Of age that's right. 644 00:29:12,693 --> 00:29:18,533 Speaker 16: Now they went through and refunded those ones. But I mean, 645 00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:23,813 Speaker 16: that's just there was so ridiculous, and somebody from the 646 00:29:23,933 --> 00:29:26,493 Speaker 16: council or the police would have signed off on that 647 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,613 Speaker 16: application anyway. You think they would have said to them, 648 00:29:29,653 --> 00:29:32,613 Speaker 16: I'm of them as a major event. You think they 649 00:29:32,653 --> 00:29:34,493 Speaker 16: would have said to them, hey, guys, are you sure 650 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:37,173 Speaker 16: this is the right? Yeah, you know what I'm seeing? 651 00:29:37,453 --> 00:29:40,853 Speaker 2: And it's so silly because at a if you go 652 00:29:40,973 --> 00:29:44,533 Speaker 2: to see the all blacks, right, so on Saturday, there'll 653 00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:46,573 Speaker 2: be all blacks at any park and adults will be 654 00:29:46,613 --> 00:29:48,293 Speaker 2: able to drink and kids will be there and there 655 00:29:48,293 --> 00:29:52,693 Speaker 2: won't be a single problem. So there's a precedent that's 656 00:29:52,813 --> 00:29:54,813 Speaker 2: just so clear and obvious. So ever who said that 657 00:29:54,893 --> 00:29:56,853 Speaker 2: couldn't go ahead. And the same thing happened to Lane 658 00:29:56,893 --> 00:30:00,653 Speaker 2: Way in Auckland. So they initially said yes, and the 659 00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:03,653 Speaker 2: year before they'd allowed sixteen to eighteen year olds in there, 660 00:30:03,693 --> 00:30:07,893 Speaker 2: and just before the festival they said no, sixteen to 661 00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:10,293 Speaker 2: sixteen and seventeen year olds will not be allowed in here. 662 00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:11,813 Speaker 2: They we're never going to be allowed to drink in there, 663 00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:13,573 Speaker 2: but they won't be allowed in here at all. And 664 00:30:13,653 --> 00:30:16,613 Speaker 2: then we'll monitor to see how it goes. Quite apart 665 00:30:16,613 --> 00:30:18,693 Speaker 2: from the fact the Lane Wave Festival the year before 666 00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:20,733 Speaker 2: there had been no problems and it had been that way, 667 00:30:21,133 --> 00:30:23,413 Speaker 2: so it was just it was a view to make 668 00:30:23,453 --> 00:30:27,013 Speaker 2: it more difficult. And I believe it comes from anti 669 00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:31,453 Speaker 2: alcohol activists who have a way of looking to view 670 00:30:31,453 --> 00:30:33,653 Speaker 2: the world that's different from the rest of us. Most 671 00:30:33,693 --> 00:30:36,533 Speaker 2: of us New Zealanders suits the other years. 672 00:30:36,693 --> 00:30:38,813 Speaker 16: And I agree you've just reminded me. I went to 673 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:42,933 Speaker 16: the Abs at Eden Park with a big group of 674 00:30:43,013 --> 00:30:47,053 Speaker 16: people and we went there to get a drink, you know, 675 00:30:47,173 --> 00:30:50,413 Speaker 16: after halftime or whatever it was, and they said, oh, sorry, 676 00:30:51,293 --> 00:30:53,533 Speaker 16: we have to shut the bar an hour before the 677 00:30:53,693 --> 00:30:56,973 Speaker 16: end of the venue as the events that ride, and 678 00:30:57,573 --> 00:30:58,773 Speaker 16: so we couldn't get a drink. 679 00:30:59,373 --> 00:31:00,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's over. 680 00:31:01,373 --> 00:31:03,453 Speaker 16: I know they do that at the cricket as well. 681 00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:08,973 Speaker 16: I mean this, I don't get that. We're all adults. 682 00:31:09,653 --> 00:31:12,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you think some common sense just looking at 683 00:31:12,133 --> 00:31:14,293 Speaker 4: that story you mentioned there with the UB forty concert 684 00:31:14,333 --> 00:31:17,053 Speaker 4: in Nelson, so it was two hours before the festival 685 00:31:17,173 --> 00:31:19,213 Speaker 4: was to go ahead. If you're part of that, and 686 00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:23,293 Speaker 4: it's these guys have just got no idea about what's 687 00:31:23,373 --> 00:31:25,413 Speaker 4: going on. In the real world to look at that, 688 00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:27,533 Speaker 4: and yes it was an oversight by the organizers, but 689 00:31:27,653 --> 00:31:30,693 Speaker 4: to just say, hey, look, no problem to UB forty 690 00:31:30,773 --> 00:31:32,293 Speaker 4: concerts in Rutherford Park. 691 00:31:32,373 --> 00:31:35,293 Speaker 2: It's during the dates. It is a family event. Every 692 00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:38,733 Speaker 2: sporting event that ever happens allowed adults and children in there, 693 00:31:38,813 --> 00:31:40,413 Speaker 2: and the adults have been out to drink, so this 694 00:31:40,573 --> 00:31:42,773 Speaker 2: is not out of the ordinary. Let's just go ahead 695 00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:47,613 Speaker 2: with that, wouldn't it be nice? Yeah? Yeah, all right, 696 00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:50,373 Speaker 2: you go, well, thank you very much, Thank you see later. 697 00:31:50,493 --> 00:31:52,733 Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 698 00:31:52,773 --> 00:31:55,013 Speaker 4: call if you've recently been to a festival and. 699 00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:57,533 Speaker 3: Seen some stupid rules. Love to hear from you. 700 00:31:58,173 --> 00:32:00,453 Speaker 4: It seems a lot as based around alcohol, because it 701 00:32:00,493 --> 00:32:03,253 Speaker 4: does seem to be this anti alcohol brigade in the background. 702 00:32:03,453 --> 00:32:05,213 Speaker 2: This is the one that really annoys me, and it's 703 00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:08,933 Speaker 2: it's treating adults like babies. So because some people have 704 00:32:09,053 --> 00:32:12,573 Speaker 2: done some bad stuff somewhere on some area in town, 705 00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:15,733 Speaker 2: the people that are going along to an event which 706 00:32:15,853 --> 00:32:19,533 Speaker 2: they've paid money to and their inside security and they're 707 00:32:19,533 --> 00:32:21,693 Speaker 2: being served to get crazy rules like this one here. 708 00:32:21,693 --> 00:32:24,733 Speaker 2: Classic example is the summer concert full of US forty 709 00:32:24,773 --> 00:32:27,253 Speaker 2: to six year olds and they crack open your cans 710 00:32:27,573 --> 00:32:31,213 Speaker 2: so they start going flat from the get go. Bloody, ridiculous. 711 00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:33,413 Speaker 2: The beers are expensive enough. I'm not trying to take 712 00:32:33,453 --> 00:32:36,893 Speaker 2: any home. Cheers, guys, Zane spot On treated like an 713 00:32:36,933 --> 00:32:43,333 Speaker 2: absolute kid to day intrusted, infantilization, infantilization of society where 714 00:32:43,373 --> 00:32:45,893 Speaker 2: you treat everyone like a baby. And the general rule 715 00:32:46,053 --> 00:32:49,973 Speaker 2: from counsels and government is you, guys are not capable 716 00:32:50,013 --> 00:32:53,773 Speaker 2: of making good decisions. You're not capable of looking after yourself. 717 00:32:53,853 --> 00:32:56,093 Speaker 2: As this Texas says the event chat as a quintessential 718 00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:58,693 Speaker 2: example of the tail wagging the dog. We have regulated 719 00:32:58,773 --> 00:33:00,813 Speaker 2: for the few, not the majority who go and have 720 00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:01,973 Speaker 2: a responsible good time. 721 00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:04,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, so feedback is open. What changes would you like 722 00:33:05,013 --> 00:33:07,573 Speaker 4: the government to implement when it comes to setting up 723 00:33:07,573 --> 00:33:10,573 Speaker 4: events and making it easier to run festivals? Give us 724 00:33:10,573 --> 00:33:12,413 Speaker 4: a call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties number to 725 00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:13,213 Speaker 4: call twelve to two. 726 00:33:14,453 --> 00:33:17,613 Speaker 1: Matd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh eight 727 00:33:17,733 --> 00:33:18,813 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. 728 00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:22,053 Speaker 5: It's Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. 729 00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:25,493 Speaker 4: News Talk ZB News Talk z B and we are 730 00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:28,493 Speaker 4: talking about stupid rules at events. Eight hundred and eighty 731 00:33:28,533 --> 00:33:30,413 Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call if you've come 732 00:33:30,453 --> 00:33:31,573 Speaker 4: across those lovedy hear from a. 733 00:33:31,573 --> 00:33:33,613 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like they might be help at hand 734 00:33:34,173 --> 00:33:37,573 Speaker 2: with these new regulations coming through from Associate Justice Minister 735 00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:41,053 Speaker 2: Nicole McKee. All Right, New Zealand is the land of no, 736 00:33:41,213 --> 00:33:43,773 Speaker 2: says this Texter. I call it the New Zealand complex. 737 00:33:43,853 --> 00:33:45,733 Speaker 2: Someone may get hurt, so we have to hide it 738 00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:47,973 Speaker 2: away at all costs so nobody gets hit. It's another 739 00:33:47,973 --> 00:33:51,093 Speaker 2: example dogs. We often hide them behind high walls. Then 740 00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:53,533 Speaker 2: they aren't socialized and they don't know how to behave 741 00:33:53,613 --> 00:33:57,133 Speaker 2: people around people overseas, they go into restaurants. Yeah, it's 742 00:33:57,133 --> 00:34:00,333 Speaker 2: the infantalization I call it of the nation. 743 00:34:00,893 --> 00:34:02,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, New Kim, how are you? 744 00:34:03,813 --> 00:34:07,373 Speaker 17: Oh good? Thank you good? Now the s we're for 745 00:34:08,373 --> 00:34:10,732 Speaker 17: one of the Puncture, one of the Sevens games down 746 00:34:10,853 --> 00:34:13,573 Speaker 17: there about I don't know, five or six years ago. 747 00:34:13,692 --> 00:34:17,893 Speaker 17: And so before they closed it, uh but I'll say 748 00:34:17,893 --> 00:34:20,373 Speaker 17: you is likely said they started to trick us like kids. 749 00:34:20,453 --> 00:34:23,013 Speaker 17: And there was I reckon one of the just the 750 00:34:23,093 --> 00:34:26,853 Speaker 17: best festival in the world, a crick and sevens, you know, 751 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,173 Speaker 17: and it was such a great day. It was no 752 00:34:29,373 --> 00:34:33,533 Speaker 17: handsholds yet there handful idiot. But apart from that, that 753 00:34:33,733 --> 00:34:35,973 Speaker 17: was one of the greatest semons in the world. I 754 00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:37,773 Speaker 17: don't reckon they still could be. 755 00:34:38,813 --> 00:34:41,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was that was part of the fun though, right. 756 00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:42,733 Speaker 4: You knew that people went there for a bit of 757 00:34:42,773 --> 00:34:46,493 Speaker 4: a party and they drunk, you know, a fear whack. 758 00:34:46,573 --> 00:34:47,453 Speaker 2: But that was part of it. 759 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:50,173 Speaker 4: And you know, this whole idea that they started to 760 00:34:50,173 --> 00:34:52,652 Speaker 4: get a bit precious that there's a few rest when 761 00:34:52,693 --> 00:34:55,613 Speaker 4: you've got thirty thousand people coming to Wellington Stadium and 762 00:34:55,733 --> 00:34:57,893 Speaker 4: spending all that money in the city. I mean, that's 763 00:34:57,933 --> 00:35:01,653 Speaker 4: part and pastor of having a vibrant, energetic festivals. 764 00:35:01,653 --> 00:35:03,373 Speaker 2: People are going to have a good time and have drinks. 765 00:35:04,413 --> 00:35:04,813 Speaker 16: That's right. 766 00:35:04,933 --> 00:35:07,053 Speaker 17: That was that was our wish had away. We had 767 00:35:07,093 --> 00:35:10,133 Speaker 17: a rampall, so a feen of us went down from 768 00:35:10,213 --> 00:35:13,213 Speaker 17: Awkwards and the whole region. A lot of great threekirs 769 00:35:13,253 --> 00:35:15,973 Speaker 17: you know, so coat, yeah. 770 00:35:16,413 --> 00:35:18,853 Speaker 4: Yep, good on you new Kim, And sadly, I don't 771 00:35:18,853 --> 00:35:20,293 Speaker 4: know if we're getting the sevens back ever. 772 00:35:20,653 --> 00:35:22,813 Speaker 2: Well This Texas says the death of the Sevens was 773 00:35:22,853 --> 00:35:26,692 Speaker 2: the first puncture in the absolute deflation of Wellington. As 774 00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:28,693 Speaker 2: a side note, after a long day of gathering a 775 00:35:28,733 --> 00:35:30,453 Speaker 2: large head of steam, a bunch of us jumped off 776 00:35:30,493 --> 00:35:33,853 Speaker 2: the punishing bridge into the lagoon, dried off, carried on 777 00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:37,093 Speaker 2: into towns and days. Yeah, Nikko, it's. 778 00:35:36,973 --> 00:35:39,213 Speaker 3: Such a great event, and so said what happened to it? 779 00:35:39,293 --> 00:35:40,413 Speaker 3: But yeah, good fun. 780 00:35:40,613 --> 00:35:43,373 Speaker 2: Well we've shall we keep this going because we've got 781 00:35:43,373 --> 00:35:44,933 Speaker 2: we've got a lot of calls to get through one 782 00:35:45,013 --> 00:35:48,053 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. We've also got a bunch 783 00:35:48,093 --> 00:35:50,453 Speaker 2: of texts coming through. So should we keep us going 784 00:35:50,533 --> 00:35:52,133 Speaker 2: to talk till till two thirty? 785 00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:54,413 Speaker 4: Yep, absolutely, we've got full boards at the moment. If 786 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:55,973 Speaker 4: you can't get through, give us a buzz i. 787 00:35:56,013 --> 00:35:56,133 Speaker 6: Eight. 788 00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:58,253 Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call. 789 00:35:58,613 --> 00:36:02,773 Speaker 4: If you are in the events festival industry love to 790 00:36:02,813 --> 00:36:04,973 Speaker 4: hear from you, what roadblocks have you come up against 791 00:36:05,173 --> 00:36:06,973 Speaker 4: and if you've recently been to a festival, what were 792 00:36:07,013 --> 00:36:10,333 Speaker 4: the stupid rules that you faced? Feedback is open. The 793 00:36:10,373 --> 00:36:12,293 Speaker 4: government are looking to make changes, so they keen to 794 00:36:12,373 --> 00:36:14,933 Speaker 4: hear from you, and we are too. Nineteen nine two 795 00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:15,493 Speaker 4: is the text. 796 00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:18,893 Speaker 2: Number afternoon read the events rules. Many pointless restrictions get 797 00:36:18,933 --> 00:36:22,413 Speaker 2: put in place, but we're hopelesully badly behaved around alcohol. 798 00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:25,693 Speaker 2: I recently went to Hellfest in France. Sixty five thousand 799 00:36:25,693 --> 00:36:28,292 Speaker 2: people at a rock and heavy metal festival, sixteen hours 800 00:36:28,293 --> 00:36:30,172 Speaker 2: a day for four days, no little, no drunkn there's 801 00:36:30,213 --> 00:36:33,493 Speaker 2: no fighting. You would see worse at a Warriors game 802 00:36:33,653 --> 00:36:37,373 Speaker 2: every week. But I think that poor behavior by Kiwis 803 00:36:37,853 --> 00:36:41,013 Speaker 2: is part of as the result of the infantilization of us. 804 00:36:41,293 --> 00:36:44,533 Speaker 2: You treat people like children and then they start drinking 805 00:36:44,693 --> 00:36:47,053 Speaker 2: and binge drinking because they don't know how many drinks 806 00:36:47,053 --> 00:36:48,573 Speaker 2: they're going to get. It could be shut down at 807 00:36:48,573 --> 00:36:51,653 Speaker 2: any point. The whole thing gets so shut down that 808 00:36:51,813 --> 00:36:54,333 Speaker 2: people just start behaving like children because you treat them 809 00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:54,813 Speaker 2: like children. 810 00:36:54,893 --> 00:36:57,293 Speaker 4: That's why we pre low right before these big events, 811 00:36:57,333 --> 00:36:59,453 Speaker 4: and also why a lot of people try to smuggle 812 00:36:59,533 --> 00:37:02,173 Speaker 4: booze into the likes of the cricket and also the 813 00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:02,973 Speaker 4: rugby as well. 814 00:37:03,693 --> 00:37:04,413 Speaker 3: But give us a call. 815 00:37:04,493 --> 00:37:06,813 Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 816 00:37:06,973 --> 00:37:09,653 Speaker 4: number to call. Nine to nine two is the text number. 817 00:37:10,253 --> 00:37:12,973 Speaker 4: And just quickly before we hit the news, there's quite 818 00:37:12,973 --> 00:37:15,212 Speaker 4: a few texts coming through about new names for the show. 819 00:37:15,293 --> 00:37:16,413 Speaker 2: I quite like this one. 820 00:37:17,333 --> 00:37:23,293 Speaker 4: Matt Heath and the Trailer Park TIMU show. I don't 821 00:37:23,293 --> 00:37:24,813 Speaker 4: know if it's that clever, but I really like that 822 00:37:24,893 --> 00:37:25,853 Speaker 4: show Trailer Park Boys. 823 00:37:25,973 --> 00:37:28,213 Speaker 2: Hey, Matt and Tyler, if my behavior is not illegal, 824 00:37:28,293 --> 00:37:29,893 Speaker 2: you don't have the right to tell me what I 825 00:37:30,053 --> 00:37:32,293 Speaker 2: can and can't do. And if my behavior is illegal, 826 00:37:32,373 --> 00:37:36,013 Speaker 2: call the cops. Otherwise is TFU It's from Rob. Yeah, 827 00:37:36,093 --> 00:37:37,453 Speaker 2: good on your Rob. Yeah. I mean that's the thing 828 00:37:37,493 --> 00:37:39,093 Speaker 2: I often think about that. It's a strange thing when 829 00:37:39,093 --> 00:37:41,732 Speaker 2: they sting people for being intoxicated. Right, that's a state 830 00:37:41,773 --> 00:37:43,933 Speaker 2: of mind. You can't control someone's state of mind. Yeah. 831 00:37:44,133 --> 00:37:47,573 Speaker 2: So if they're intoxicator but not doing anything wrong, they're 832 00:37:47,693 --> 00:37:50,613 Speaker 2: just walking around being a bit of a friendly person. Yeah, 833 00:37:50,853 --> 00:37:53,533 Speaker 2: then it's a really odd moral decision that we make 834 00:37:53,693 --> 00:37:55,733 Speaker 2: that they are doing something wrong. That's just what's in 835 00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:58,732 Speaker 2: their head. They're not coming to any crimes, then let 836 00:37:58,853 --> 00:37:59,133 Speaker 2: them be. 837 00:37:59,373 --> 00:38:02,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said, right, New Sport and weather is coming up. 838 00:38:02,973 --> 00:38:04,053 Speaker 2: But we are carrying this on. 839 00:38:04,213 --> 00:38:06,652 Speaker 4: If you can't get through, keep trying. Oh, eight hundred 840 00:38:06,653 --> 00:38:08,573 Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number of four you're 841 00:38:08,573 --> 00:38:08,933 Speaker 4: listening to. 842 00:38:09,053 --> 00:38:11,172 Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler. Stay right here. 843 00:38:11,253 --> 00:38:12,373 Speaker 3: We'll be back very shortly. 844 00:38:12,533 --> 00:38:15,493 Speaker 4: Four minutes to too great to have your company as always, 845 00:38:32,453 --> 00:38:34,773 Speaker 4: who loves. 846 00:38:35,133 --> 00:38:36,293 Speaker 5: Who the most? 847 00:38:45,693 --> 00:38:48,973 Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon It's Matt Heath and Taylor 848 00:38:49,053 --> 00:38:51,333 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons us talks. 849 00:38:51,373 --> 00:38:54,493 Speaker 4: It'd be for a good afternoon tune seven past too. 850 00:38:54,573 --> 00:38:56,773 Speaker 4: Welcome back into the program. Just before we get back 851 00:38:56,813 --> 00:39:00,093 Speaker 4: to the discussion. So Father's Day, can you believe it's 852 00:39:00,293 --> 00:39:02,573 Speaker 4: just three days away? And if you've left it to 853 00:39:02,653 --> 00:39:04,813 Speaker 4: the last minute, Matt has got you sorted. We've got 854 00:39:04,853 --> 00:39:07,652 Speaker 4: a few downloads of his number one best selling audio book, 855 00:39:07,973 --> 00:39:10,732 Speaker 4: al Is Punishing Thirteen Reasons to Love the Life You've 856 00:39:10,773 --> 00:39:11,453 Speaker 4: Got to give Away. 857 00:39:11,533 --> 00:39:13,333 Speaker 3: It's read by the man himself, and. 858 00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:16,453 Speaker 4: Your dad will be absolutely chuffed, and it's currently available 859 00:39:16,533 --> 00:39:19,573 Speaker 4: everywhere you get your audiobooks from Apple, Spotify, Google Play, 860 00:39:19,773 --> 00:39:23,212 Speaker 4: all Audible, all of them. So to get in the drawer, 861 00:39:23,453 --> 00:39:26,293 Speaker 4: all you got to do is just text Punishing to 862 00:39:26,933 --> 00:39:30,013 Speaker 4: nine two ninety two along with your full name, and 863 00:39:30,293 --> 00:39:32,933 Speaker 4: Matt will pick a couple of winners. So nine ninety 864 00:39:32,933 --> 00:39:35,373 Speaker 4: two text Punishing and your full name to go in 865 00:39:35,453 --> 00:39:37,493 Speaker 4: the drawer for a copy of that audio book, and 866 00:39:37,533 --> 00:39:39,413 Speaker 4: we'll give you another chance after three o'clock as well. 867 00:39:39,653 --> 00:39:41,733 Speaker 2: All right, okay, then all right. 868 00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:44,533 Speaker 4: All right, so let's get back into this. So the 869 00:39:44,613 --> 00:39:47,733 Speaker 4: government is promising big changes to licensing rules to make 870 00:39:47,733 --> 00:39:50,253 Speaker 4: it easier for organizers to run events, but they are 871 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:52,693 Speaker 4: looking for feedback as well. So if you're in the 872 00:39:53,173 --> 00:39:56,373 Speaker 4: event industry, what changes are needed, and if you've recently 873 00:39:56,453 --> 00:39:59,172 Speaker 4: been to a festival, what stupid rules have you seen 874 00:39:59,253 --> 00:40:02,053 Speaker 4: that needs to be addressed by the government or maybe 875 00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:03,093 Speaker 4: even the Council itself. 876 00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:05,133 Speaker 3: Oh eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 877 00:40:05,213 --> 00:40:06,053 Speaker 3: to call and. 878 00:40:06,173 --> 00:40:09,373 Speaker 2: Side topic because some people around into on the streets 879 00:40:09,373 --> 00:40:11,373 Speaker 2: suggested that we change the name of the show to 880 00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:15,573 Speaker 2: the Matt Heath and Tyler Swift Show due Doo Tyler's 881 00:40:15,853 --> 00:40:18,693 Speaker 2: repeated Taylor Swift topics that we do. She's good, didn't she? 882 00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:21,853 Speaker 2: A few people have been suggesting your names to the show. Hi, guys, 883 00:40:21,933 --> 00:40:23,453 Speaker 2: love the show and have been listening since the start. 884 00:40:23,693 --> 00:40:25,613 Speaker 2: Read the name. There are a few for you to consider. 885 00:40:26,053 --> 00:40:29,213 Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler unfiltered. Oh nice, I like that classy 886 00:40:29,413 --> 00:40:32,493 Speaker 2: double shot with Matt and Tyler. Oh, the Matt and 887 00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:36,893 Speaker 2: Tyler Mix, the Afternoon Lunch Brunt, No, the after Lunch Bunch, No, 888 00:40:37,013 --> 00:40:38,133 Speaker 2: the after lunch Brunch. 889 00:40:38,053 --> 00:40:40,973 Speaker 3: The after lunch brunch. Give that man a job that 890 00:40:41,093 --> 00:40:42,733 Speaker 3: is vantesta. We'll get him on the payroll. 891 00:40:42,893 --> 00:40:45,373 Speaker 2: All right, back to the topic in hand, This whole 892 00:40:45,373 --> 00:40:48,453 Speaker 2: conversation is evil, Like, seriously, come on, boys, will you 893 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:51,053 Speaker 2: take responsibility if someone dies at one of your out 894 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,093 Speaker 2: control festivals you want to run? To be fair, I 895 00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:55,413 Speaker 2: don't want to run those festivals. Running a festival is 896 00:40:55,413 --> 00:40:57,933 Speaker 2: an incredibly stressful occupation, and the people that do it 897 00:40:58,013 --> 00:40:59,973 Speaker 2: do it so well. The bread Echos of the worlds, 898 00:41:00,213 --> 00:41:03,333 Speaker 2: the Ducos of this world, you know, the electric avenues, 899 00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:07,213 Speaker 2: all those things. They are incredibly complicated events that are 900 00:41:07,293 --> 00:41:10,653 Speaker 2: run so very well to spite what the councils and 901 00:41:10,893 --> 00:41:14,652 Speaker 2: regulations do to them. But to continue the text, I've 902 00:41:14,693 --> 00:41:17,493 Speaker 2: been sidetracked on one word. Out of control fistles you 903 00:41:17,533 --> 00:41:20,013 Speaker 2: want to run. I don't think she really anyway, So anyway, 904 00:41:20,013 --> 00:41:23,013 Speaker 2: carry out to continue. The rules are made by smarter 905 00:41:23,093 --> 00:41:26,413 Speaker 2: people than you. You don't know everything. Bad things happen 906 00:41:26,453 --> 00:41:30,413 Speaker 2: when people drink. Slash live near a park, Oh, drink, 907 00:41:30,533 --> 00:41:32,692 Speaker 2: I live near a park. I see drunk people every night, 908 00:41:32,973 --> 00:41:36,133 Speaker 2: drinking on the picnic tables, leave their cans and chips 909 00:41:36,173 --> 00:41:39,093 Speaker 2: behind A one hundred thousand person festival full of drunks, 910 00:41:39,173 --> 00:41:43,653 Speaker 2: no thanks and grow up. That's interesting because so this 911 00:41:43,813 --> 00:41:47,653 Speaker 2: person's example of terrible behavior is leaving the cans and 912 00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:51,453 Speaker 2: chips behind and look absolutely put a big believer in 913 00:41:51,533 --> 00:41:54,253 Speaker 2: being a tidy Kiwi. Put your cans and your chips 914 00:41:54,373 --> 00:41:55,893 Speaker 2: and the recycling and the rubbish absolutely. 915 00:41:55,973 --> 00:41:57,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look after this beautiful country. 916 00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:00,053 Speaker 2: This text could have come up with a better example 917 00:42:00,093 --> 00:42:02,933 Speaker 2: of terrible behavior than leaving their cans and chips behind. 918 00:42:03,093 --> 00:42:05,172 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got to say the part that's stuck out 919 00:42:05,213 --> 00:42:07,333 Speaker 4: for me was that there were people smarter than you 920 00:42:07,613 --> 00:42:09,053 Speaker 4: coming up with these sort of rules. 921 00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:10,252 Speaker 2: Is that really true? 922 00:42:10,373 --> 00:42:12,333 Speaker 4: Or are these people that have just been so knocked 923 00:42:12,413 --> 00:42:15,133 Speaker 4: down by life, They had such traumatic upbringings that that 924 00:42:15,493 --> 00:42:18,652 Speaker 4: love decided nobody can have any fun and they've somehow 925 00:42:18,733 --> 00:42:20,893 Speaker 4: managed to get themselves in a position where they shut 926 00:42:20,973 --> 00:42:21,493 Speaker 4: down everything. 927 00:42:21,573 --> 00:42:23,533 Speaker 2: Well, there's plenty of smart people that use their intelligence 928 00:42:23,573 --> 00:42:26,413 Speaker 2: in the wrong direction, don't they. Yeah. So, if you 929 00:42:26,693 --> 00:42:31,813 Speaker 2: are an anti alcohol activist who is enforcing rules that 930 00:42:31,893 --> 00:42:34,973 Speaker 2: are outside of what your average key we would think 931 00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:39,212 Speaker 2: were fair and balanced and inlign with society, and you're 932 00:42:39,253 --> 00:42:43,853 Speaker 2: doing it in a very intelligent and measured and brilliant way, 933 00:42:44,613 --> 00:42:47,133 Speaker 2: you're still directing it in the wrong direction, right. 934 00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:49,252 Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, nicely said. 935 00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:51,133 Speaker 2: And our powerful fire hose is no good if you 936 00:42:51,253 --> 00:42:53,773 Speaker 2: use it too, I don't know, spray little kids off bikes. 937 00:42:55,093 --> 00:42:57,213 Speaker 4: That's probably a better example. It's a good analogy. Oh, 938 00:42:57,253 --> 00:42:59,613 Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 939 00:42:59,693 --> 00:43:01,973 Speaker 2: New Zealanders turned into a no first society and it's 940 00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:04,293 Speaker 2: infiltrated every part of everything we do and it's a 941 00:43:04,493 --> 00:43:08,613 Speaker 2: huge shame. Yeah, Kim, welcome to the show. 942 00:43:09,133 --> 00:43:10,853 Speaker 5: How are you good? 943 00:43:10,973 --> 00:43:11,212 Speaker 8: Thanks? 944 00:43:11,293 --> 00:43:14,493 Speaker 2: Jents, how are you brilliant? So you've been promoting a 945 00:43:14,533 --> 00:43:15,613 Speaker 2: new festival. 946 00:43:16,813 --> 00:43:17,413 Speaker 13: Yes, I have. 947 00:43:17,693 --> 00:43:20,333 Speaker 18: It's called Sonic Waves and it's down in Fogha Matar 948 00:43:20,733 --> 00:43:21,172 Speaker 18: at New. 949 00:43:21,133 --> 00:43:23,173 Speaker 2: Year's Nice Sonic Waves. 950 00:43:24,773 --> 00:43:27,733 Speaker 18: But we're a little bit different. We're are sixteen and 951 00:43:27,893 --> 00:43:30,573 Speaker 18: we're alcohol free, all. 952 00:43:30,573 --> 00:43:33,253 Speaker 2: Right, okay? And is this your first? Is this your 953 00:43:33,253 --> 00:43:35,093 Speaker 2: first time with it? Camera? 954 00:43:35,213 --> 00:43:35,333 Speaker 6: Is it? 955 00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:39,013 Speaker 2: Has it been on before for all of those years? 956 00:43:39,133 --> 00:43:43,893 Speaker 18: But getting to the getting through the council red tape 957 00:43:44,253 --> 00:43:48,172 Speaker 18: and the police is it is major. It's a long 958 00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:52,653 Speaker 18: long process, even for an alcohol free even nearly three years. 959 00:43:53,093 --> 00:43:55,453 Speaker 2: Wow, even with an alcohol free event. 960 00:43:56,893 --> 00:44:01,692 Speaker 18: Yeah, so the police trying to stipulate that I run 961 00:44:01,813 --> 00:44:07,573 Speaker 18: security like it's a licensed event, which is not so, 962 00:44:07,933 --> 00:44:12,573 Speaker 18: and I understand their concerns, but all these things just 963 00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:16,253 Speaker 18: take a lot of time and essentially cost a lot 964 00:44:16,293 --> 00:44:16,613 Speaker 18: of money. 965 00:44:16,973 --> 00:44:20,133 Speaker 2: Can you describe what the Can you describe the gig 966 00:44:20,213 --> 00:44:22,933 Speaker 2: for us, Kim? What kind of entertainment's there? What size 967 00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:25,413 Speaker 2: is it? Whereabouts exactly? What kind of venue? 968 00:44:26,773 --> 00:44:26,973 Speaker 5: Yeah? 969 00:44:27,133 --> 00:44:27,653 Speaker 6: I can do that. 970 00:44:29,493 --> 00:44:32,933 Speaker 18: So it's called Sonic Waves. It's at the Fine Rugby 971 00:44:33,013 --> 00:44:37,013 Speaker 18: Grounds two nights. It's on the thirtieth and thirty first 972 00:44:37,493 --> 00:44:43,333 Speaker 18: of December. So what we're what we're catering for, is 973 00:44:43,413 --> 00:44:46,893 Speaker 18: there a truckload of grams or use to go? There 974 00:44:47,813 --> 00:44:51,293 Speaker 18: was absolutely nothing to do and just roam around the streets. 975 00:44:52,693 --> 00:44:57,652 Speaker 18: So we've got a capacity for six thousand people. Wow, 976 00:44:58,053 --> 00:45:04,133 Speaker 18: and fully controlled and secure, fully fenced environment. One of 977 00:45:04,213 --> 00:45:07,573 Speaker 18: our headliners is Savage, We've got Sweet mixed kids were 978 00:45:07,693 --> 00:45:13,172 Speaker 18: just sign or artists from other countries. So what we're 979 00:45:13,213 --> 00:45:17,373 Speaker 18: doing is just providing some quality entertainment for the youth 980 00:45:18,133 --> 00:45:21,653 Speaker 18: to get off the street and come and be entertained 981 00:45:21,693 --> 00:45:23,453 Speaker 18: in a secure environment. 982 00:45:23,813 --> 00:45:26,493 Speaker 2: Good on you, Kim. That sounds like a fantastic idea. 983 00:45:26,773 --> 00:45:29,293 Speaker 2: Why did you decide to do it alcohol free? Because 984 00:45:29,293 --> 00:45:31,173 Speaker 2: you could have done it that it was you know, 985 00:45:31,253 --> 00:45:34,093 Speaker 2: alcohol was sold to adults, but young people could come 986 00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:36,693 Speaker 2: in and wouldn't have be allowed to alcohol. Why did 987 00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:38,093 Speaker 2: you decide to do it just alcohol free? 988 00:45:39,573 --> 00:45:42,573 Speaker 18: Yeah, that's a good question. And the reason is because 989 00:45:42,853 --> 00:45:47,213 Speaker 18: I believe the police would have hanged hamstrung me further 990 00:45:48,133 --> 00:45:50,772 Speaker 18: and we would probably still not be putting this event 991 00:45:50,893 --> 00:45:53,373 Speaker 18: on now, even after all this time. 992 00:45:53,653 --> 00:45:56,253 Speaker 4: Which sounds like, you know, it's a good strategy, but 993 00:45:56,293 --> 00:45:58,253 Speaker 4: a strategy you shouldn't have to implement. Why did it 994 00:45:58,333 --> 00:46:01,133 Speaker 4: take three years? What's the process you have to go 995 00:46:01,293 --> 00:46:02,613 Speaker 4: through and what does it take so long? 996 00:46:04,013 --> 00:46:09,093 Speaker 18: So by the time you apply for resources or you 997 00:46:09,213 --> 00:46:12,093 Speaker 18: have meetings around the resource consent, then you get a planner. 998 00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:16,613 Speaker 18: Then you've got to get all sorts of consultants and 999 00:46:16,813 --> 00:46:22,333 Speaker 18: engineers to comment and draw up documents about your event 1000 00:46:22,653 --> 00:46:26,733 Speaker 18: and how it's going to affect the environment, all sorts 1001 00:46:26,773 --> 00:46:30,053 Speaker 18: of things. And you know, our events is particularly small 1002 00:46:30,173 --> 00:46:32,613 Speaker 18: when you are looking at some of these other huge events. 1003 00:46:33,653 --> 00:46:37,653 Speaker 18: So unfortunately I missed you're talking to Brent Eckles before, 1004 00:46:37,773 --> 00:46:44,293 Speaker 18: but you know he's a very experienced campaigner and everything 1005 00:46:44,413 --> 00:46:50,692 Speaker 18: he says is true. Yeah, it's very very hard. 1006 00:46:51,133 --> 00:46:51,333 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1007 00:46:51,413 --> 00:46:53,333 Speaker 2: Have you yet to put together a traffic management plan 1008 00:46:53,813 --> 00:46:54,613 Speaker 2: as well? 1009 00:46:55,973 --> 00:46:59,693 Speaker 18: Yeah, full security plan, full event management plan, full traffic 1010 00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:03,293 Speaker 18: management plan, acoustic management plan, and the list just go 1011 00:47:03,493 --> 00:47:03,853 Speaker 18: on and on. 1012 00:47:04,493 --> 00:47:05,973 Speaker 2: And how much do you think it would have cost, 1013 00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:08,813 Speaker 2: you know, not just in time but in money to 1014 00:47:08,893 --> 00:47:10,133 Speaker 2: get to the point where you are where you can 1015 00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:11,133 Speaker 2: actually go ahead this year. 1016 00:47:13,453 --> 00:47:15,373 Speaker 18: I don't want to stay the actual number, but it's 1017 00:47:15,413 --> 00:47:17,692 Speaker 18: a lot of money, a lot, and it's a lot 1018 00:47:17,733 --> 00:47:18,373 Speaker 18: more than your think. 1019 00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:21,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And how can people get tickets? 1020 00:47:23,733 --> 00:47:26,933 Speaker 18: You can go to Sonic Waves, dot co, dot m 1021 00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:31,773 Speaker 18: dead and the informations there and we are hopefully dropping 1022 00:47:31,893 --> 00:47:36,333 Speaker 18: the final lineup tomorrow afternoon. 1023 00:47:37,053 --> 00:47:40,293 Speaker 2: Do you think these new regulations that come through that I, 1024 00:47:40,613 --> 00:47:43,053 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully it gets worked out. And this is 1025 00:47:43,093 --> 00:47:44,573 Speaker 2: sort of what the're suggesting, that there would just be 1026 00:47:44,773 --> 00:47:47,973 Speaker 2: a blanket set of rules in a nationwide that you 1027 00:47:48,173 --> 00:47:51,573 Speaker 2: can sort of look at the look at the rule 1028 00:47:51,613 --> 00:47:53,493 Speaker 2: book and put it together to put together a festival. 1029 00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:54,413 Speaker 2: Do you think that would have helped you? 1030 00:47:56,333 --> 00:47:59,053 Speaker 18: I definitely think so that when I talk to other 1031 00:47:59,133 --> 00:48:02,293 Speaker 18: promoters and people in the industry, having all the separate 1032 00:48:02,773 --> 00:48:10,173 Speaker 18: liquor licensing agencies and the police. Basically you're letting it. 1033 00:48:10,493 --> 00:48:11,413 Speaker 19: As I heard you say. 1034 00:48:11,293 --> 00:48:17,293 Speaker 18: Before, people that are almost anti alcohol are governing how 1035 00:48:17,413 --> 00:48:20,573 Speaker 18: these events are run and how they're put on. Yeah, 1036 00:48:20,973 --> 00:48:24,253 Speaker 18: and when and when we're talking about people, you know, 1037 00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:28,373 Speaker 18: our age a fine vintage. Most of us are pretty 1038 00:48:28,373 --> 00:48:32,573 Speaker 18: well behaved. And if you look at the percentages people 1039 00:48:32,613 --> 00:48:35,853 Speaker 18: that go to these larger, large events and cause trouble 1040 00:48:35,933 --> 00:48:38,053 Speaker 18: or may get arrested or what have you, it's it's 1041 00:48:38,093 --> 00:48:42,093 Speaker 18: a very small minority. It is in the grand scheme 1042 00:48:42,133 --> 00:48:44,732 Speaker 18: of things, and if you want to try to stop those, 1043 00:48:44,893 --> 00:48:50,453 Speaker 18: you're also stopping all the revenue streams that come with events. 1044 00:48:50,653 --> 00:48:53,333 Speaker 18: And and that's just not for the promoter, but it's 1045 00:48:53,453 --> 00:48:57,413 Speaker 18: also for everyone in that area, everyone who works at 1046 00:48:57,453 --> 00:49:00,692 Speaker 18: those events. You know, there's a lot. It's just such 1047 00:49:00,693 --> 00:49:03,613 Speaker 18: a big knock on effect. And that's that's why if 1048 00:49:03,653 --> 00:49:07,853 Speaker 18: you look at Eden Park, how they're now, you know, 1049 00:49:08,013 --> 00:49:12,173 Speaker 18: trying to put more concerts on and bring more revenue 1050 00:49:12,293 --> 00:49:13,373 Speaker 18: into Auckland City. 1051 00:49:13,733 --> 00:49:16,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I live near Eding Park and it 1052 00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:19,493 Speaker 2: absolutely buzzes when there's when there's an event on at 1053 00:49:19,613 --> 00:49:22,413 Speaker 2: Eden Park. The restaurants around there. This particular restaurant that 1054 00:49:22,773 --> 00:49:25,133 Speaker 2: I know that's been struggling, that just packed all the 1055 00:49:25,173 --> 00:49:26,933 Speaker 2: bars right up through Kingsland and all the way out 1056 00:49:26,973 --> 00:49:31,893 Speaker 2: to Dominion Road and wider. Are just absolutely buzzing when 1057 00:49:31,893 --> 00:49:34,413 Speaker 2: there's a big event on and and it just brings 1058 00:49:34,533 --> 00:49:38,373 Speaker 2: the brings things alive and that needs to be celebrated 1059 00:49:38,893 --> 00:49:41,533 Speaker 2: as opposed to just zeroing in on the worst possible 1060 00:49:41,613 --> 00:49:43,893 Speaker 2: case scenario that you can imagine to shut down these 1061 00:49:43,973 --> 00:49:47,053 Speaker 2: things that are such a great social events and economic 1062 00:49:47,133 --> 00:49:49,813 Speaker 2: events and great for morale for a town as well. 1063 00:49:49,853 --> 00:49:52,853 Speaker 2: So come good on you for persevering and getting this 1064 00:49:53,213 --> 00:49:56,013 Speaker 2: Sonic Waves up and going, and I wish you all 1065 00:49:56,013 --> 00:49:56,493 Speaker 2: the best with that. 1066 00:49:57,813 --> 00:49:58,093 Speaker 18: Thank you. 1067 00:49:58,453 --> 00:50:00,533 Speaker 4: Yep, go well Kim. And you're getting a lot of 1068 00:50:00,533 --> 00:50:02,453 Speaker 4: support on the text machine as well. Great to hear 1069 00:50:02,573 --> 00:50:05,293 Speaker 4: something coming back to Funga Matah for the youth. Yiha 1070 00:50:05,453 --> 00:50:07,093 Speaker 4: looking forward to that concert. So if you want to 1071 00:50:07,333 --> 00:50:09,693 Speaker 4: go and support what can doing Sonic Waves dot co 1072 00:50:09,893 --> 00:50:12,893 Speaker 4: dot Nz good Man. But three years get listen to 1073 00:50:12,973 --> 00:50:16,053 Speaker 4: those reports he had to fill out our punishing. 1074 00:50:15,893 --> 00:50:19,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd want the police and the council 1075 00:50:19,453 --> 00:50:22,732 Speaker 2: to be making it as easy as possible. So come 1076 00:50:22,813 --> 00:50:24,893 Speaker 2: from the point of view that we want events to happen, 1077 00:50:24,933 --> 00:50:26,573 Speaker 2: and we want them to work, and we want them 1078 00:50:26,573 --> 00:50:28,693 Speaker 2: to be successful, and we want people to drink at 1079 00:50:28,733 --> 00:50:30,373 Speaker 2: them because that's what kiwis want to do and that 1080 00:50:30,453 --> 00:50:33,213 Speaker 2: should be the base standard that everyone comes to it, 1081 00:50:33,253 --> 00:50:35,013 Speaker 2: and then the councils should be there to go, Okay, 1082 00:50:35,293 --> 00:50:37,213 Speaker 2: how can we get this done. We'll do the paperwork 1083 00:50:37,253 --> 00:50:39,413 Speaker 2: for you because it is great. We'll get this done 1084 00:50:39,493 --> 00:50:40,933 Speaker 2: for you. The police will be like, oh, this is 1085 00:50:40,933 --> 00:50:43,293 Speaker 2: what we can do to help. That's the way it 1086 00:50:43,333 --> 00:50:45,013 Speaker 2: should be. Yeah, it shouldn't be a whole lot of 1087 00:50:45,053 --> 00:50:49,613 Speaker 2: roadblocks that someone has to basically sacrifice their sanity to 1088 00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:50,732 Speaker 2: get it done. 1089 00:50:50,853 --> 00:50:52,853 Speaker 4: Solving problems, not causing them. Oh eight one hundred and 1090 00:50:52,853 --> 00:50:55,373 Speaker 4: eighty ten to eight SEU. So what roadblocks did you 1091 00:50:55,453 --> 00:50:57,413 Speaker 4: face trying to set up a festival? What did you 1092 00:50:57,533 --> 00:50:59,773 Speaker 4: have to go through? The government is wanting to make 1093 00:50:59,813 --> 00:51:03,212 Speaker 4: it easier to set up a festival or event, really 1094 00:51:03,293 --> 00:51:03,973 Speaker 4: keen to hear from you. 1095 00:51:04,133 --> 00:51:05,853 Speaker 3: What changes do you want to see? Nine two nine 1096 00:51:05,893 --> 00:51:06,493 Speaker 3: two is the text. 1097 00:51:06,413 --> 00:51:08,213 Speaker 2: Number, Sanny. I'm in my late fifties. We used to 1098 00:51:08,213 --> 00:51:10,172 Speaker 2: be able to take chili bins with food and drinks 1099 00:51:10,213 --> 00:51:13,613 Speaker 2: and to eating park for the cricket was as much trouble, 1100 00:51:13,693 --> 00:51:16,093 Speaker 2: but not on a social media so I few saw 1101 00:51:16,173 --> 00:51:16,653 Speaker 2: it sandy. 1102 00:51:17,013 --> 00:51:18,893 Speaker 3: They were good times, you know. When they started to 1103 00:51:18,973 --> 00:51:21,493 Speaker 3: ban that, that was just such heartbreak. 1104 00:51:21,653 --> 00:51:23,533 Speaker 2: Well you can still take I think it's a bottle 1105 00:51:23,573 --> 00:51:27,093 Speaker 2: of champagne and maybe two bottles of champagne into lords 1106 00:51:27,133 --> 00:51:28,813 Speaker 2: if you want to watch the cricket good times. And 1107 00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:31,853 Speaker 2: I think it's a bottle of spirits and I think 1108 00:51:31,933 --> 00:51:34,493 Speaker 2: it's like half d bears. 1109 00:51:34,893 --> 00:51:36,773 Speaker 3: That will get you going, that will keep you going. 1110 00:51:36,813 --> 00:51:38,093 Speaker 3: And it is nineteen past two. 1111 00:51:39,733 --> 00:51:44,333 Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call, 1112 00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:47,173 Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk said. 1113 00:51:47,053 --> 00:51:51,293 Speaker 4: Be it's twenty two parts two. The government wants to 1114 00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:54,453 Speaker 4: make it easier for organized to sit organizers rather to 1115 00:51:54,493 --> 00:51:57,732 Speaker 4: set up events and festivals. So can you hear from 1116 00:51:57,773 --> 00:51:59,853 Speaker 4: you what would make your life easier if you've tried 1117 00:51:59,893 --> 00:52:00,893 Speaker 4: to set up one of these events. 1118 00:52:01,053 --> 00:52:03,172 Speaker 2: Having worked at festivals and seeing all the background work, 1119 00:52:03,253 --> 00:52:06,173 Speaker 2: it's a huge, huge effort to put a gig on 1120 00:52:06,253 --> 00:52:09,212 Speaker 2: along with paperwork, council rulings, police way management, et cetera. 1121 00:52:09,293 --> 00:52:13,053 Speaker 2: It's a huge amount of time money and if it Yeah, 1122 00:52:13,453 --> 00:52:18,053 Speaker 2: this person says, go welcome. Bureaucracy is killing this country. 1123 00:52:18,293 --> 00:52:21,973 Speaker 2: It's around the Sonic Waves festival, Sonic Waves, dot CO, 1124 00:52:22,053 --> 00:52:26,293 Speaker 2: dot and Z. Councils and police should be able to 1125 00:52:26,533 --> 00:52:29,213 Speaker 2: template application. Yeah, I mean that's what it should be like. 1126 00:52:29,253 --> 00:52:31,413 Speaker 2: There shouldn't be any There should just be of things 1127 00:52:31,453 --> 00:52:34,533 Speaker 2: that you have to do within reason and you know 1128 00:52:34,653 --> 00:52:37,493 Speaker 2: what you've got to get done so your vessel can 1129 00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:39,213 Speaker 2: go on. It shouldn't be some people coming in and 1130 00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:42,733 Speaker 2: making up new things and new ways to try and 1131 00:52:43,293 --> 00:52:44,893 Speaker 2: shut down. Key is having fun? 1132 00:52:45,093 --> 00:52:47,773 Speaker 4: No committees, just tick a box? Does it meet all 1133 00:52:47,813 --> 00:52:48,613 Speaker 4: the expectations? 1134 00:52:48,733 --> 00:52:48,893 Speaker 2: Yip? 1135 00:52:48,933 --> 00:52:51,692 Speaker 4: Happy days? Tich, well, don't have a great event. Hope 1136 00:52:51,733 --> 00:52:53,053 Speaker 4: it goes well, even better than that. 1137 00:52:53,133 --> 00:52:56,413 Speaker 2: Here's the template. The council's here to help you, so 1138 00:52:56,813 --> 00:53:00,213 Speaker 2: we'll here some resources to help you fill out these 1139 00:53:00,253 --> 00:53:02,453 Speaker 2: forms and anything you need to make this go ahead, 1140 00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:04,533 Speaker 2: and we'll try and limit that and do that going. 1141 00:53:04,653 --> 00:53:07,293 Speaker 2: And then the police come and said, absolutely, we love festivals. 1142 00:53:07,333 --> 00:53:08,293 Speaker 2: What can we do to help. 1143 00:53:08,373 --> 00:53:10,652 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be nice? 1144 00:53:10,693 --> 00:53:13,652 Speaker 2: And these great things go ahead, and then the world 1145 00:53:13,693 --> 00:53:15,213 Speaker 2: becomes a bit of place go for the economy and 1146 00:53:15,293 --> 00:53:19,853 Speaker 2: great for society as our whole. Karen, welcome to the show. 1147 00:53:20,733 --> 00:53:22,413 Speaker 7: Hey lens, how are we very good? 1148 00:53:24,773 --> 00:53:24,933 Speaker 14: Yeah? 1149 00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:29,093 Speaker 7: Hey, I just want to share an experience. Thank you, 1150 00:53:29,213 --> 00:53:33,813 Speaker 7: Bulls Game and Taranicki Yero Stadium. Once went in with 1151 00:53:33,933 --> 00:53:36,013 Speaker 7: the wife, two kids, and our two month old baby. 1152 00:53:36,933 --> 00:53:38,692 Speaker 7: The wife was breastfeeding, so they had one of those 1153 00:53:38,733 --> 00:53:41,493 Speaker 7: frank green stainless steel drink bottles with her. If you're 1154 00:53:41,493 --> 00:53:43,533 Speaker 7: second one all the time, and I'll try to take 1155 00:53:43,573 --> 00:53:47,053 Speaker 7: it off, he wouldn't. We're in, and then we even 1156 00:53:47,133 --> 00:53:49,172 Speaker 7: were Then they tried to go through the nappy bag 1157 00:53:50,373 --> 00:53:53,133 Speaker 7: found a baby's bottle that we had in. There were 1158 00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:56,853 Speaker 7: among the had boiled. Oh my god, looking at us 1159 00:53:56,973 --> 00:53:59,732 Speaker 7: well fat like pretty much asking us to tip it out. 1160 00:53:59,853 --> 00:54:04,373 Speaker 3: Oh you're hurting capers. That's a power trip and a half. 1161 00:54:05,413 --> 00:54:07,453 Speaker 2: I don't know, surely, that's just you've just come across 1162 00:54:07,533 --> 00:54:09,333 Speaker 2: the dumbest person in the history of the world. 1163 00:54:10,053 --> 00:54:14,253 Speaker 7: No, that was the rent of security guard goys. But 1164 00:54:14,893 --> 00:54:17,133 Speaker 7: so I don't have a bar, but I'm pretty much 1165 00:54:17,333 --> 00:54:18,893 Speaker 7: time we're to go, and we just walked through and 1166 00:54:18,973 --> 00:54:20,853 Speaker 7: they were busy enough that they couldn't do anything about it. 1167 00:54:22,093 --> 00:54:24,772 Speaker 7: But when we left, we came out and there would 1168 00:54:24,813 --> 00:54:26,933 Speaker 7: have been about fifty of these Frank green Stone of 1169 00:54:26,973 --> 00:54:29,533 Speaker 7: steel drink bottles on the table on the other side 1170 00:54:29,573 --> 00:54:29,933 Speaker 7: of the gate. 1171 00:54:30,533 --> 00:54:31,172 Speaker 8: Oh my god. 1172 00:54:31,253 --> 00:54:31,453 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1173 00:54:32,213 --> 00:54:34,493 Speaker 2: Well, I've told this story before on this show. But 1174 00:54:34,733 --> 00:54:36,533 Speaker 2: I was at an event and I went to buy 1175 00:54:37,253 --> 00:54:39,813 Speaker 2: four waters. So I went to buy four waters because 1176 00:54:39,853 --> 00:54:41,213 Speaker 2: I was working with some people in the waters and 1177 00:54:41,253 --> 00:54:43,933 Speaker 2: they said, it's a it's a one drink limit limit. 1178 00:54:44,013 --> 00:54:44,212 Speaker 6: Mate. 1179 00:54:45,293 --> 00:54:47,533 Speaker 2: It's like they're waters, one drink limit, mate, move along, 1180 00:54:47,613 --> 00:54:48,252 Speaker 2: one drink limit. 1181 00:54:48,373 --> 00:54:50,853 Speaker 3: You've had enough water, sun, go eat a pie and 1182 00:54:51,013 --> 00:54:51,453 Speaker 3: come back and. 1183 00:54:51,453 --> 00:54:52,013 Speaker 17: Have some more water. 1184 00:54:52,893 --> 00:54:54,613 Speaker 7: Let's the other side of it. The waters in there 1185 00:54:54,613 --> 00:54:56,853 Speaker 7: were bloody like eight bucks for a fifty cent bottle. 1186 00:54:57,053 --> 00:54:59,653 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, madness. 1187 00:54:59,813 --> 00:55:02,053 Speaker 4: It is madness. And mate, I'm glad you just pushed 1188 00:55:02,093 --> 00:55:04,293 Speaker 4: through and says no bugg of this. You guys are crazy. 1189 00:55:04,373 --> 00:55:06,413 Speaker 4: We're going through and you're not stopping me. Well more 1190 00:55:06,413 --> 00:55:06,933 Speaker 4: people need. 1191 00:55:06,853 --> 00:55:11,333 Speaker 2: To do that, because you know, it's the mums with 1192 00:55:11,453 --> 00:55:13,933 Speaker 2: the newborn babies that calls all the trouble at these gigs. Yeah, 1193 00:55:14,413 --> 00:55:15,413 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your call. 1194 00:55:15,493 --> 00:55:17,613 Speaker 4: Kiaren great cal thank you very much. I wait one 1195 00:55:17,693 --> 00:55:20,253 Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've recently been to a festival, 1196 00:55:20,293 --> 00:55:22,893 Speaker 4: what were some of the stupid rules you saw where 1197 00:55:22,893 --> 00:55:25,933 Speaker 4: you like Kieren, where they pretty much given you, gave 1198 00:55:25,973 --> 00:55:27,413 Speaker 4: you the full pet down and maybe get out the 1199 00:55:27,453 --> 00:55:28,573 Speaker 4: rubber gloves for a festival. 1200 00:55:28,613 --> 00:55:30,253 Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, hey boys. We tried to 1201 00:55:30,333 --> 00:55:34,293 Speaker 2: take four hundred and forty mire beers into Lords for 1202 00:55:34,373 --> 00:55:37,373 Speaker 2: the cricket that's the famous home of cricket in London. Lords. 1203 00:55:37,733 --> 00:55:39,933 Speaker 2: They only allowed us to take in four each, but 1204 00:55:40,053 --> 00:55:41,693 Speaker 2: pop the extra beers and the fridge for us to 1205 00:55:41,733 --> 00:55:45,493 Speaker 2: click when we left. Bloody lovely, Oh be like Lords. Actually, 1206 00:55:45,533 --> 00:55:48,613 Speaker 2: I'll look into what the restrictions of alcohol that you 1207 00:55:48,653 --> 00:55:51,813 Speaker 2: can take into Lords and come back to you with that. 1208 00:55:52,173 --> 00:55:52,333 Speaker 21: Yep. 1209 00:55:52,573 --> 00:55:55,053 Speaker 4: It is twenty six past two. Oh eight hundred eighty 1210 00:55:55,093 --> 00:55:57,693 Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call back in the mint. 1211 00:56:01,773 --> 00:56:05,413 Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty 1212 00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:07,373 Speaker 1: ten eighty on us talk ZB. 1213 00:56:07,293 --> 00:56:08,172 Speaker 3: Twenty nine past two. 1214 00:56:08,333 --> 00:56:11,253 Speaker 2: We're talking about crazy restrictions for events in our country 1215 00:56:11,613 --> 00:56:15,933 Speaker 2: because of associates. Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced reforms at 1216 00:56:16,293 --> 00:56:19,893 Speaker 2: the New Zealand Association's annual conference. They look pretty good. 1217 00:56:19,893 --> 00:56:23,373 Speaker 2: We'll see how they pan out. But there are places 1218 00:56:23,373 --> 00:56:25,733 Speaker 2: in the world that are much more sane when it 1219 00:56:25,813 --> 00:56:29,773 Speaker 2: comes to what you can do at grounds. Take Lords 1220 00:56:29,813 --> 00:56:32,293 Speaker 2: the Home of Cricket in London. So this is what 1221 00:56:32,333 --> 00:56:34,133 Speaker 2: you're allowed to bring into the ground. Okay, So if 1222 00:56:34,133 --> 00:56:35,853 Speaker 2: you're going along, you're allowed to bring one bottle of 1223 00:56:35,933 --> 00:56:39,133 Speaker 2: wine or champagne nice which is seven hundred and fifty 1224 00:56:39,173 --> 00:56:43,613 Speaker 2: meals yep. Or four cans or bottles of beer or 1225 00:56:43,733 --> 00:56:48,213 Speaker 2: cider max. Five hundred mili each yep. Four cans of 1226 00:56:48,253 --> 00:56:51,493 Speaker 2: pre mix to paradiefs well max. Three hundred and thirty mils. 1227 00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:55,373 Speaker 2: You're not allowed to bring in a bottle of gin vodka. 1228 00:56:55,453 --> 00:56:57,853 Speaker 4: Probably makes sense, but that is, I mean the other 1229 00:56:57,973 --> 00:57:00,133 Speaker 4: rules we should be getting behind. So one bottle of 1230 00:57:00,213 --> 00:57:03,493 Speaker 4: wine or shampas four tour boys five hundred mil. You 1231 00:57:03,533 --> 00:57:06,013 Speaker 4: can do a lot with that, and then four cans 1232 00:57:06,053 --> 00:57:06,933 Speaker 4: off what was the last one? 1233 00:57:07,493 --> 00:57:12,133 Speaker 2: The pre mix primis a PIFs, A couple of Jack Daniels. 1234 00:57:14,213 --> 00:57:17,733 Speaker 3: Good place be more like Lord's, right, I think we 1235 00:57:17,853 --> 00:57:20,213 Speaker 3: got time to have and we chatworth Rob. 1236 00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:23,453 Speaker 7: Get a rob, Yeah, Hi, how are you hate? 1237 00:57:23,533 --> 00:57:25,613 Speaker 13: Just to go back to that Nelson one, would you 1238 00:57:25,693 --> 00:57:30,413 Speaker 13: be forty? And I think it was Dragon. You're absolutely right. 1239 00:57:30,733 --> 00:57:34,573 Speaker 13: And when you say that there is activists controlling the situation. 1240 00:57:34,853 --> 00:57:37,453 Speaker 13: So I can only talk for the Nelson situation because 1241 00:57:37,453 --> 00:57:41,253 Speaker 13: I know people in mospot here. But you've got three 1242 00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,373 Speaker 13: people that you deal with when you go to get 1243 00:57:43,413 --> 00:57:47,413 Speaker 13: it render your liqual license or for that situation. One 1244 00:57:47,573 --> 00:57:53,173 Speaker 13: is the counsel, one is the police, and one is 1245 00:57:53,253 --> 00:57:57,973 Speaker 13: the health depart Okay, And you'll remember, not only did 1246 00:57:58,173 --> 00:58:02,573 Speaker 13: Nelson have that problem or with that event, they also 1247 00:58:02,733 --> 00:58:06,693 Speaker 13: decided that Nelson City Council decided to ban liquor advertising 1248 00:58:06,773 --> 00:58:08,613 Speaker 13: at sex and Able and then they were that they 1249 00:58:08,613 --> 00:58:11,733 Speaker 13: wouldn't give any more cricket games, and there was a 1250 00:58:11,813 --> 00:58:17,053 Speaker 13: high doing and throwing and that that changed. The person 1251 00:58:17,133 --> 00:58:20,013 Speaker 13: at the health department in Nelson's is a woman who 1252 00:58:20,053 --> 00:58:27,013 Speaker 13: won't be named. She says she doesn't drink. So when 1253 00:58:27,053 --> 00:58:31,053 Speaker 13: you get a person who doesn't think any alcohol and then. 1254 00:58:31,093 --> 00:58:33,133 Speaker 2: They should be doing the job, they shouldn't be doing 1255 00:58:33,133 --> 00:58:34,813 Speaker 2: the job. The person that's doing that job should be 1256 00:58:35,093 --> 00:58:38,813 Speaker 2: aligned with what most Kiwis are thinking in life. 1257 00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:43,573 Speaker 13: Exactly my point that they're not suitable for the position. 1258 00:58:43,933 --> 00:58:49,333 Speaker 13: Because they can't take a neutral position on it, all right, 1259 00:58:49,613 --> 00:58:52,773 Speaker 13: And that is the situation. And also then you go 1260 00:58:53,653 --> 00:58:56,533 Speaker 13: the police are very pragmatic here. They look at it 1261 00:58:56,573 --> 00:58:58,653 Speaker 13: from a point of view. You know, if you're a 1262 00:58:58,773 --> 00:59:00,693 Speaker 13: restaurant or a bar, they look at it with us. 1263 00:59:00,693 --> 00:59:01,973 Speaker 13: This place got a lot of trouble. 1264 00:59:02,013 --> 00:59:03,133 Speaker 11: There are lots of fire, so. 1265 00:59:03,213 --> 00:59:06,533 Speaker 13: Many people get thrown out, et cetera, et cetera. We 1266 00:59:06,653 --> 00:59:09,453 Speaker 13: called anyone serving anyone drunk. They just look at it 1267 00:59:09,493 --> 00:59:14,453 Speaker 13: from the statistics type of thing. But you often find 1268 00:59:14,573 --> 00:59:19,653 Speaker 13: within the councils themselves, the bureaucrats can be like plumbing, unparking, 1269 00:59:19,773 --> 00:59:23,653 Speaker 13: meat a wardens, and all of them need to do 1270 00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:26,813 Speaker 13: custom service training. The friendliest people in the council, and 1271 00:59:26,893 --> 00:59:29,133 Speaker 13: I'm sure you agree that people that answer the phones. 1272 00:59:29,893 --> 00:59:32,293 Speaker 13: As soon as you start peeling back the onion skin 1273 00:59:32,413 --> 00:59:37,893 Speaker 13: and going down to resource consents or water or wherever, 1274 00:59:38,693 --> 00:59:41,813 Speaker 13: it appears that none of them have actually had any 1275 00:59:41,933 --> 00:59:45,613 Speaker 13: customer service training. Just like you said before, how can 1276 00:59:45,693 --> 00:59:47,493 Speaker 13: we make this work? What do we need to do 1277 00:59:47,613 --> 00:59:49,533 Speaker 13: to make this work? You know, how can we get 1278 00:59:49,573 --> 00:59:53,373 Speaker 13: this thing happening? That mindset does not exist. But then 1279 00:59:53,773 --> 00:59:55,733 Speaker 13: I would say most councils in New Zealand. 1280 00:59:55,853 --> 00:59:58,173 Speaker 4: There's a problem there with those licensing committees, isn't it. 1281 00:59:58,213 --> 01:00:00,253 Speaker 4: I mean, it seems to me they're appointed by the council. 1282 01:00:00,333 --> 01:00:02,173 Speaker 4: It should be open to vote from the public, so 1283 01:00:02,253 --> 01:00:05,333 Speaker 4: you put people in there who actually understand about events 1284 01:00:05,373 --> 01:00:07,973 Speaker 4: and festivals and having fun and what the community needs. 1285 01:00:08,373 --> 01:00:10,653 Speaker 4: Said of some numpties who are bored in retirement and 1286 01:00:10,693 --> 01:00:12,093 Speaker 4: they get voted in by the council. 1287 01:00:12,093 --> 01:00:15,493 Speaker 2: Being the president of an AMP committee the last few years, 1288 01:00:15,613 --> 01:00:18,293 Speaker 2: things are just ridiculous. The local council and Cannibury wanted 1289 01:00:18,333 --> 01:00:21,253 Speaker 2: to charge one thousand dollars per bouncy castle to inspect 1290 01:00:21,253 --> 01:00:23,893 Speaker 2: them before the AMP show. Also, obtaining a lock of 1291 01:00:23,973 --> 01:00:27,573 Speaker 2: license for six hours is nearly a waste of time. 1292 01:00:28,173 --> 01:00:33,733 Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, unreal, Yeah, exactly what Rob said. The councils, 1293 01:00:34,373 --> 01:00:38,973 Speaker 2: the police, everyone involved should be looking to do everything 1294 01:00:39,013 --> 01:00:42,853 Speaker 2: they can to make festivals happen, make them as easy 1295 01:00:42,893 --> 01:00:45,933 Speaker 2: as possible. Should They should have resources to put them 1296 01:00:45,933 --> 01:00:49,213 Speaker 2: ahead and put them make sure they go ahead and 1297 01:00:50,013 --> 01:00:52,573 Speaker 2: it just roll out the red carpet to make them happen, 1298 01:00:52,693 --> 01:00:54,853 Speaker 2: rather than putting up roadbox to make it difficult. Because 1299 01:00:54,933 --> 01:00:56,693 Speaker 2: events so good for the community and so good for the. 1300 01:00:56,733 --> 01:01:00,413 Speaker 4: Society, nicely said, a great discussion and it seems like 1301 01:01:00,493 --> 01:01:02,773 Speaker 4: a step in the right direction from the government. But 1302 01:01:02,933 --> 01:01:04,973 Speaker 4: maybe more to come on that. So thank you very 1303 01:01:05,053 --> 01:01:06,773 Speaker 4: much to everyone who called in text on that one. 1304 01:01:07,093 --> 01:01:09,573 Speaker 4: Coming up after the head lines, Let's have a chat 1305 01:01:09,613 --> 01:01:13,333 Speaker 4: about gray areas of the road code. Big story on 1306 01:01:13,653 --> 01:01:15,893 Speaker 4: what happens if you're driving down the street there's park 1307 01:01:15,973 --> 01:01:18,533 Speaker 4: cars on either side, you're in one direction, somebody else 1308 01:01:18,653 --> 01:01:20,533 Speaker 4: is in the other direction. You had it at the 1309 01:01:20,573 --> 01:01:23,493 Speaker 4: same time. Who gives way? But it's not the only 1310 01:01:23,613 --> 01:01:25,613 Speaker 4: gray area of the road code. So we can hear 1311 01:01:25,613 --> 01:01:28,333 Speaker 4: from you on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twenty 1312 01:01:28,373 --> 01:01:29,013 Speaker 4: six to three. 1313 01:01:31,933 --> 01:01:35,293 Speaker 14: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's 1314 01:01:35,373 --> 01:01:38,973 Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. Details have been revealed 1315 01:01:39,013 --> 01:01:44,133 Speaker 14: from the initial investigation into former Deputy Police Commissioner Jevin mcskimming. 1316 01:01:44,653 --> 01:01:48,413 Speaker 14: It's been revealed he was suspended before Christmas after an 1317 01:01:48,453 --> 01:01:53,973 Speaker 14: allegation of sexual misconduct by a former female police employee. However, 1318 01:01:54,173 --> 01:01:57,533 Speaker 14: police say there is insufficient evidence to prosecute the fifty 1319 01:01:57,613 --> 01:02:01,613 Speaker 14: two year old. Thousands of nurses are continuing pushback on 1320 01:02:01,813 --> 01:02:06,053 Speaker 14: unsafe staffing levels at hospitals around the country, walking off 1321 01:02:06,133 --> 01:02:09,693 Speaker 14: the job for a second day. The Green Energy Project 1322 01:02:09,853 --> 01:02:13,253 Speaker 14: has been announced to explore the geothermal power of the 1323 01:02:13,413 --> 01:02:17,893 Speaker 14: Central Coport Volcanic Zone. Resources Minister Shane Jones says it 1324 01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:22,733 Speaker 14: has potential to improve New Zealand's energy security. Welkan company 1325 01:02:22,853 --> 01:02:26,573 Speaker 14: Kyland's scaffolding has been ordered to pay eight thousand, five 1326 01:02:26,773 --> 01:02:31,413 Speaker 14: hundred dollars in reparations after scaffolding collapsed onto a busy 1327 01:02:31,573 --> 01:02:35,453 Speaker 14: road last year. A person is seriously injured following a 1328 01:02:35,573 --> 01:02:38,693 Speaker 14: two vehicle crash south off Dunedin at about one point 1329 01:02:38,693 --> 01:02:42,853 Speaker 14: thirty this afternoon. State Highway One between Law and Riverside 1330 01:02:42,933 --> 01:02:47,093 Speaker 14: Roads is expected to be closed for several hours. Big profits, 1331 01:02:47,253 --> 01:02:50,133 Speaker 14: minimal tax. New report on how to make Google and 1332 01:02:50,293 --> 01:02:53,653 Speaker 14: Facebook pay fair share of tax. You can read more 1333 01:02:53,733 --> 01:02:56,773 Speaker 14: at NZ Herald Premium. Now back to Matt and Tyler. 1334 01:02:56,933 --> 01:02:57,853 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. 1335 01:02:58,013 --> 01:02:58,453 Speaker 2: Susie. 1336 01:02:58,813 --> 01:03:01,173 Speaker 3: So picture this, and many of us have faced this. 1337 01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:03,493 Speaker 4: You're driving up a suburban street when the road narrows, 1338 01:03:03,533 --> 01:03:06,493 Speaker 4: with cars parked on both sides, leaving just enough space 1339 01:03:06,813 --> 01:03:08,493 Speaker 4: for one vehicle to pass through at a time. Up 1340 01:03:08,573 --> 01:03:10,373 Speaker 4: her head, you can see another driver he's coming from 1341 01:03:10,413 --> 01:03:12,933 Speaker 4: the opposite direction, or she and you both slow down 1342 01:03:13,093 --> 01:03:15,573 Speaker 4: unsure of who should move first. There's no sign, there's 1343 01:03:15,613 --> 01:03:19,333 Speaker 4: no lane markings and no obvious rule, so who gives way? 1344 01:03:19,613 --> 01:03:22,773 Speaker 4: Great story on the Herald, and with the number of 1345 01:03:23,893 --> 01:03:26,293 Speaker 4: townhouses going up, I think it is a situation. Many 1346 01:03:26,373 --> 01:03:29,013 Speaker 4: around the country have faced narrow streets. You both come 1347 01:03:29,093 --> 01:03:33,693 Speaker 4: up into that situation and courtesy sometimes goes out the window. 1348 01:03:34,293 --> 01:03:37,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because there's some people. 1349 01:03:37,333 --> 01:03:39,653 Speaker 2: I mean, the side topic on this is people when 1350 01:03:39,653 --> 01:03:41,853 Speaker 2: you let them through who don't wave say thank you. 1351 01:03:42,053 --> 01:03:42,373 Speaker 3: Hate that. 1352 01:03:42,733 --> 01:03:44,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've had to grow up as a 1353 01:03:44,813 --> 01:03:47,173 Speaker 2: human and now I don't get angry about it, but 1354 01:03:47,253 --> 01:03:49,453 Speaker 2: used annoy me so much. You let people through, or 1355 01:03:49,493 --> 01:03:51,253 Speaker 2: you let one person through and the person just behind 1356 01:03:51,293 --> 01:03:53,573 Speaker 2: them accelerates and takes the piss bad piece. The other 1357 01:03:53,653 --> 01:03:56,413 Speaker 2: thing is you don't know how many people the person 1358 01:03:56,453 --> 01:03:57,973 Speaker 2: has let through before you come up to them. So 1359 01:03:58,053 --> 01:04:00,413 Speaker 2: they might have on a long street, and there's a 1360 01:04:00,453 --> 01:04:02,173 Speaker 2: bunch of these in Auckland, long narrow streets, so that 1361 01:04:02,253 --> 01:04:03,853 Speaker 2: someone might have let two people in on their way 1362 01:04:03,893 --> 01:04:05,733 Speaker 2: down this road. Yeah, by the time they get to you, 1363 01:04:05,813 --> 01:04:07,693 Speaker 2: they're like, na, nah, you're the third, but you don't 1364 01:04:07,733 --> 01:04:11,053 Speaker 2: know that you get annoyed at them. So it's a 1365 01:04:11,133 --> 01:04:16,013 Speaker 2: tough one because it's you know, it's easy on a 1366 01:04:16,933 --> 01:04:19,453 Speaker 2: slope street because you know that if you're coming down, 1367 01:04:19,493 --> 01:04:20,373 Speaker 2: you give way to coming up. 1368 01:04:20,573 --> 01:04:23,493 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because I always think it is quite often 1369 01:04:23,573 --> 01:04:25,173 Speaker 4: a lot. I have this almost every day when I 1370 01:04:25,253 --> 01:04:27,733 Speaker 4: go home. There's one street in particular and there's cars 1371 01:04:27,773 --> 01:04:30,413 Speaker 4: parked on both sides. But if there is a gap 1372 01:04:30,573 --> 01:04:32,893 Speaker 4: on my side or the other driver's side, so you 1373 01:04:32,973 --> 01:04:35,013 Speaker 4: get the cars parked up, but there's a little gap there. 1374 01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:37,853 Speaker 4: If that gap is on their side, they need to 1375 01:04:37,893 --> 01:04:39,893 Speaker 4: give away to me because they can just swoop in 1376 01:04:40,013 --> 01:04:42,293 Speaker 4: there and I can go past. But if the gap 1377 01:04:42,413 --> 01:04:44,093 Speaker 4: is on my side, then I give way to them. 1378 01:04:44,213 --> 01:04:47,093 Speaker 4: And it's also distance. If they hit that point before 1379 01:04:47,173 --> 01:04:49,653 Speaker 4: I do, then I'll get to give way. I pull 1380 01:04:49,973 --> 01:04:51,933 Speaker 4: to the side, so I'm not going to start gunning 1381 01:04:51,973 --> 01:04:53,413 Speaker 4: and up to try and beat them to that point. 1382 01:04:53,733 --> 01:04:55,453 Speaker 4: I just do what I think is the right thing. 1383 01:04:55,573 --> 01:04:57,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Something that speeds up so they 1384 01:04:58,333 --> 01:04:59,053 Speaker 2: get the right of way. 1385 01:04:59,293 --> 01:05:01,133 Speaker 4: And that has happened to me that I've pulled over 1386 01:05:01,293 --> 01:05:03,213 Speaker 4: and let a whole bunch of cars come through, and 1387 01:05:03,293 --> 01:05:06,253 Speaker 4: then I see this nothing come screaming down to get 1388 01:05:06,293 --> 01:05:06,893 Speaker 4: through as well. 1389 01:05:07,493 --> 01:05:09,533 Speaker 3: And on occasion, and I'm not proud of myself when 1390 01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,333 Speaker 3: I do this, But then when that person comes in, 1391 01:05:11,373 --> 01:05:13,013 Speaker 3: I'll just swing out into the middle of the road 1392 01:05:13,093 --> 01:05:15,653 Speaker 3: say excuse me, excuse me, mate, you're not coming through. 1393 01:05:15,973 --> 01:05:17,613 Speaker 2: When did you start using the word numpty? 1394 01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:18,653 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1395 01:05:18,773 --> 01:05:20,053 Speaker 3: I've thought out quite a lot today. 1396 01:05:20,453 --> 01:05:23,533 Speaker 2: I've got a lot. This numpty. It's very it's very mild. 1397 01:05:23,773 --> 01:05:27,413 Speaker 3: It's a very nid Flanders kind of kind of slang, 1398 01:05:27,573 --> 01:05:27,853 Speaker 3: isn't it. 1399 01:05:28,173 --> 01:05:30,453 Speaker 2: It's a very mild insult. Of course, it's quite I 1400 01:05:30,653 --> 01:05:30,813 Speaker 2: like it. 1401 01:05:31,173 --> 01:05:33,013 Speaker 3: You like it, You'll keep using it. I'll throw a 1402 01:05:33,093 --> 01:05:34,013 Speaker 3: muppet from time to time. 1403 01:05:34,333 --> 01:05:36,893 Speaker 2: It's old school. It's not too abusive. It's like this 1404 01:05:37,093 --> 01:05:40,773 Speaker 2: numpty that's naughty. Yeah you, I mean, you could use 1405 01:05:40,853 --> 01:05:42,373 Speaker 2: much worse words for that. 1406 01:05:42,573 --> 01:05:43,933 Speaker 3: Do you like numpty nine two nine? 1407 01:05:43,933 --> 01:05:46,373 Speaker 2: Too? But there are a lot of gray areas, you know, 1408 01:05:46,493 --> 01:05:48,853 Speaker 2: as I was saying before when we were talking about 1409 01:05:48,893 --> 01:05:52,053 Speaker 2: doing this subject, there are things in the road code 1410 01:05:52,093 --> 01:05:54,813 Speaker 2: that people don't know, yes, right, And then there are 1411 01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:57,933 Speaker 2: things that aren't in the road code. There's these gray 1412 01:05:58,053 --> 01:06:01,853 Speaker 2: areas of driving that you come across regularly, YEA and so, 1413 01:06:02,693 --> 01:06:04,333 Speaker 2: And there's some things in the road code that that 1414 01:06:04,613 --> 01:06:06,813 Speaker 2: just aren't widely known by people. I mean, you read 1415 01:06:06,813 --> 01:06:08,413 Speaker 2: the rod cone when you first pass your license, and 1416 01:06:08,493 --> 01:06:10,773 Speaker 2: you never see it again until maybe you're testing your 1417 01:06:10,813 --> 01:06:12,853 Speaker 2: kid YEA, get their driver's license hundred percent. 1418 01:06:13,013 --> 01:06:14,533 Speaker 3: So what are they those gray areas? 1419 01:06:14,653 --> 01:06:16,493 Speaker 2: So e one hundred and eighty ten eighty, what's your 1420 01:06:16,533 --> 01:06:19,253 Speaker 2: strategy on those streets where they're two narrow and you 1421 01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:20,933 Speaker 2: have to give away for someone? Or when do you 1422 01:06:21,013 --> 01:06:26,053 Speaker 2: give away? And also what are these gray areas of driving? Yeah, 1423 01:06:26,293 --> 01:06:28,173 Speaker 2: you know, gray areas of road rules. 1424 01:06:28,253 --> 01:06:30,173 Speaker 4: The phones have let up and the texts are coming 1425 01:06:30,213 --> 01:06:31,973 Speaker 4: through thick and fast. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten 1426 01:06:32,013 --> 01:06:35,093 Speaker 4: eighties number call beg very shortly. It is eighteen to three. 1427 01:06:35,373 --> 01:06:36,133 Speaker 5: Yeah, numberties. 1428 01:06:37,293 --> 01:06:40,653 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 1429 01:06:41,013 --> 01:06:41,973 Speaker 1: everything in between. 1430 01:06:42,213 --> 01:06:45,093 Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks. 1431 01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:46,053 Speaker 2: That'd be afternoon. 1432 01:06:46,093 --> 01:06:48,933 Speaker 4: We're talking about gray areas of the road code or 1433 01:06:49,013 --> 01:06:51,093 Speaker 4: perhaps laws that are misunderstood. 1434 01:06:51,093 --> 01:06:52,893 Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 1435 01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:55,733 Speaker 2: call regarding approaching a pedestrian cross and what you said 1436 01:06:55,773 --> 01:06:57,853 Speaker 2: about the diamond is completely wrong. You need to read 1437 01:06:57,893 --> 01:06:59,933 Speaker 2: the road code and correct your listeners before you cause 1438 01:06:59,973 --> 01:07:03,373 Speaker 2: a death. That is the most hysterical text we've ever got. Traumatic. 1439 01:07:03,693 --> 01:07:07,973 Speaker 2: I'll read it again regarding approaching you're in crossing. What 1440 01:07:08,053 --> 01:07:10,493 Speaker 2: you see about the diamond, it's can't plenty wrong. You 1441 01:07:10,613 --> 01:07:12,973 Speaker 2: need to read the road going and correct gulists before 1442 01:07:13,013 --> 01:07:15,813 Speaker 2: your cause it. They have a cup of tea love. 1443 01:07:16,013 --> 01:07:16,213 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1444 01:07:16,373 --> 01:07:19,733 Speaker 2: Anyway, that what that was was someone was saying, whereas 1445 01:07:19,973 --> 01:07:22,053 Speaker 2: well were It wasn't actually us that was saying. We 1446 01:07:22,173 --> 01:07:24,253 Speaker 2: read it out, well, we'll look it up. Someone was 1447 01:07:24,253 --> 01:07:26,533 Speaker 2: saying that if you can't believe this person sent that 1448 01:07:26,653 --> 01:07:29,773 Speaker 2: text that what the person was saying that is, if 1449 01:07:29,853 --> 01:07:34,293 Speaker 2: you have passed the diamond before the pedestrian crossing, then 1450 01:07:34,493 --> 01:07:36,493 Speaker 2: the car has right of way. Yes, but what I 1451 01:07:36,613 --> 01:07:40,293 Speaker 2: said was never enforced the right of way on a pedestrian. Yeah, 1452 01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:42,813 Speaker 2: because you know, even if you do, they have the 1453 01:07:42,933 --> 01:07:44,893 Speaker 2: right of the way. If you're on the pedestrian crossing, 1454 01:07:45,213 --> 01:07:46,213 Speaker 2: you let them go across. 1455 01:07:46,693 --> 01:07:46,853 Speaker 6: You know. 1456 01:07:47,733 --> 01:07:50,893 Speaker 2: Always for me, if a pedestrian is either waiting at 1457 01:07:50,893 --> 01:07:53,173 Speaker 2: the pedestrian crossing or has their foot on the pedestrian crossing, 1458 01:07:53,933 --> 01:07:55,213 Speaker 2: then the pedestrian has the right of way. 1459 01:07:55,253 --> 01:07:56,093 Speaker 3: Ye just let them through. 1460 01:07:56,293 --> 01:07:56,813 Speaker 2: Let them through. 1461 01:07:56,933 --> 01:08:02,853 Speaker 4: You don't want I had a pedestrian before. Someone is 1462 01:08:02,893 --> 01:08:05,133 Speaker 4: the text number. We're getting plenty coming through. 1463 01:08:05,253 --> 01:08:07,533 Speaker 2: Hey guys, my parent partner hates the no way a 1464 01:08:07,693 --> 01:08:10,133 Speaker 2: holes often flips the bird as they pass. It's now 1465 01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:13,053 Speaker 2: affecting me a street as a shocker for part cars narrowing. 1466 01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:16,333 Speaker 2: That's from and Nicky Scott, welcome to the show. 1467 01:08:17,492 --> 01:08:18,253 Speaker 7: Gooday guys. 1468 01:08:19,253 --> 01:08:22,893 Speaker 21: Yeah, the narrow roads are being a truck driver and 1469 01:08:23,133 --> 01:08:26,253 Speaker 21: living in and around Wellington and now in christ Church. 1470 01:08:28,333 --> 01:08:30,732 Speaker 21: Just simple easy answer as if there's space to pull 1471 01:08:30,772 --> 01:08:33,133 Speaker 21: off to the side and I makest out the park cars, 1472 01:08:33,213 --> 01:08:35,652 Speaker 21: do so and just use the give way rull. Otherwise 1473 01:08:35,772 --> 01:08:38,852 Speaker 21: you go one car at a time and use that 1474 01:08:38,973 --> 01:08:41,133 Speaker 21: give way rull, you know, give way to your right. 1475 01:08:42,173 --> 01:08:46,452 Speaker 21: A simple easy answer for that one. And like I'm 1476 01:08:46,612 --> 01:08:49,333 Speaker 21: just in the process of going for my truck and 1477 01:08:49,412 --> 01:08:53,452 Speaker 21: trailer license at the moment, I'm going through the fourth 1478 01:08:54,053 --> 01:08:57,973 Speaker 21: time through the road code. Okay, the specialty Christians. But 1479 01:08:58,133 --> 01:09:01,653 Speaker 21: one of the previous questions I came up against online 1480 01:09:02,532 --> 01:09:02,972 Speaker 21: use today. 1481 01:09:02,973 --> 01:09:03,732 Speaker 7: I think it was. 1482 01:09:05,732 --> 01:09:07,652 Speaker 21: Around if there was money owing on. 1483 01:09:07,692 --> 01:09:09,333 Speaker 18: A vehicle, what should you do? 1484 01:09:10,093 --> 01:09:10,892 Speaker 8: It's nothing to. 1485 01:09:11,013 --> 01:09:12,213 Speaker 21: Do with the road code. 1486 01:09:13,133 --> 01:09:14,972 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in the road code. 1487 01:09:16,293 --> 01:09:18,492 Speaker 21: There was a question that I got asked as a 1488 01:09:18,572 --> 01:09:22,652 Speaker 21: Fraigus question for a road a learner's license roadmade. 1489 01:09:23,532 --> 01:09:25,732 Speaker 2: That's a waste of time. Yeah, that's that's a totally 1490 01:09:25,732 --> 01:09:26,293 Speaker 2: different issue. 1491 01:09:29,293 --> 01:09:32,492 Speaker 21: Yeah, and then you're just talking about pedestrian crossings. One 1492 01:09:32,532 --> 01:09:36,213 Speaker 21: of the questions that I had today was, even though 1493 01:09:36,253 --> 01:09:39,492 Speaker 21: a pedestrian cross is crossing out a red light, should 1494 01:09:39,532 --> 01:09:40,452 Speaker 21: you give way to them? 1495 01:09:40,652 --> 01:09:41,173 Speaker 6: Yes or no? 1496 01:09:41,492 --> 01:09:47,293 Speaker 21: And the answer is yes, the red light, the walking 1497 01:09:47,412 --> 01:09:51,133 Speaker 21: men light is showing and that's crossed started crossing the road. 1498 01:09:51,652 --> 01:09:54,612 Speaker 21: The correct answer for that, according to the online testing 1499 01:09:54,652 --> 01:09:58,333 Speaker 21: that I'm doing using the road code, is yes, you 1500 01:09:58,372 --> 01:09:59,492 Speaker 21: should stop and give way. 1501 01:09:59,692 --> 01:10:01,972 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that kind of makes sense though, doesn't it, Scott, 1502 01:10:02,133 --> 01:10:09,972 Speaker 2: because you know, and soft whereas your truck is hard. 1503 01:10:10,692 --> 01:10:12,532 Speaker 2: But I mean, but that that red fleshing right, is 1504 01:10:13,093 --> 01:10:15,372 Speaker 2: just telling pedestrian get across quickly. 1505 01:10:17,133 --> 01:10:19,012 Speaker 21: Technically of saying don't cross the road. 1506 01:10:19,133 --> 01:10:23,452 Speaker 2: So you know, you're not talking about the flashing red, 1507 01:10:23,492 --> 01:10:26,012 Speaker 2: You're talking about a solid red. Yeah. 1508 01:10:26,173 --> 01:10:30,133 Speaker 21: So the question was when when the red man is solid, yeah, 1509 01:10:30,933 --> 01:10:33,333 Speaker 21: read light are solid for the pedestrian at the crossing 1510 01:10:33,452 --> 01:10:36,853 Speaker 21: and crossing the road, should you give way to the pedestrian? 1511 01:10:37,253 --> 01:10:38,812 Speaker 18: And the answer is his of course. 1512 01:10:38,652 --> 01:10:41,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there are foolish There are a foolish pedestrian, 1513 01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:45,372 Speaker 2: but they get right away by virtue of always coming 1514 01:10:45,452 --> 01:10:47,253 Speaker 2: out second on the. 1515 01:10:48,053 --> 01:10:52,293 Speaker 21: But also also in my driving experience there is probably 1516 01:10:52,412 --> 01:10:54,572 Speaker 21: ninety nine percent of New Zealanders should read the road 1517 01:10:54,612 --> 01:10:58,932 Speaker 21: code every week because nobody ever and nobody ever indicates anymore. 1518 01:10:59,572 --> 01:11:02,732 Speaker 21: And on emerging lane coming off like the on ramps 1519 01:11:02,812 --> 01:11:05,572 Speaker 21: or off ramps off the motorway, nobody these days, no 1520 01:11:05,652 --> 01:11:07,412 Speaker 21: how knows how to drive all the way. 1521 01:11:07,293 --> 01:11:08,293 Speaker 22: To the end and merge. 1522 01:11:08,372 --> 01:11:10,933 Speaker 21: Then at the end of the moving lane emerged like 1523 01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:13,012 Speaker 21: a zip kid. So we're the end of the barrier. 1524 01:11:13,133 --> 01:11:14,372 Speaker 21: Isn't shoot straight across? 1525 01:11:14,692 --> 01:11:18,333 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely that that's a bigginning. Now you're driving around 1526 01:11:18,333 --> 01:11:19,732 Speaker 2: in a truck, so you'd be able to see into 1527 01:11:19,732 --> 01:11:21,893 Speaker 2: people's cars quite a light. I mean this morning, I 1528 01:11:21,973 --> 01:11:23,692 Speaker 2: was talking about it before I saw someone that was 1529 01:11:23,732 --> 01:11:27,412 Speaker 2: pulling out of a gym car park across the pavement 1530 01:11:27,492 --> 01:11:30,372 Speaker 2: onto the road nearly hit my dog. On her phone. 1531 01:11:30,572 --> 01:11:32,772 Speaker 2: She was actually staring down at her phone as she 1532 01:11:32,933 --> 01:11:35,333 Speaker 2: drove onto a street. So when you're driving around in 1533 01:11:35,372 --> 01:11:38,133 Speaker 2: your truck, you'd see do you see more and more 1534 01:11:38,133 --> 01:11:40,852 Speaker 2: people just actually driving around along looking at their phones. 1535 01:11:42,013 --> 01:11:42,213 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1536 01:11:42,293 --> 01:11:43,492 Speaker 18: You see people on their phones. 1537 01:11:43,572 --> 01:11:46,093 Speaker 21: You see people putting on makeup, you see people doing 1538 01:11:46,133 --> 01:11:46,812 Speaker 21: all sorts of weird. 1539 01:11:46,732 --> 01:11:47,452 Speaker 18: In one of the things. 1540 01:11:47,652 --> 01:11:51,652 Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean yeah, you can see intimate eggs and 1541 01:11:51,812 --> 01:11:55,333 Speaker 21: certain cities as well. You just see the weird and 1542 01:11:55,412 --> 01:11:56,612 Speaker 21: wonderful when you're in a truck. 1543 01:11:57,013 --> 01:12:00,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's concerning because I like to drive around 1544 01:12:00,812 --> 01:12:02,572 Speaker 2: with no pants on, so I didn't know that people 1545 01:12:02,572 --> 01:12:03,013 Speaker 2: could see me. 1546 01:12:03,133 --> 01:12:05,852 Speaker 3: Scott's been looking at you your business all this time, mate. 1547 01:12:07,133 --> 01:12:10,972 Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, stay safe out there, Scott. 1548 01:12:11,053 --> 01:12:11,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. 1549 01:12:11,812 --> 01:12:13,213 Speaker 4: Hey, without a word of a lie. I saw this 1550 01:12:13,293 --> 01:12:15,253 Speaker 4: the other day on the motorway, just you're talking about 1551 01:12:15,253 --> 01:12:18,133 Speaker 4: the phone, and it was traffic. You know, traffic was 1552 01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:20,333 Speaker 4: pretty slow, so not much going on. But I saw 1553 01:12:20,412 --> 01:12:22,772 Speaker 4: someone watching an episode of Friends on their phone. They 1554 01:12:22,853 --> 01:12:25,372 Speaker 4: just had the we phone on the dashboard and we're 1555 01:12:25,372 --> 01:12:28,612 Speaker 4: watching TV, and I thought, ah, you are kidding me. 1556 01:12:29,093 --> 01:12:30,852 Speaker 4: So they going to hit one eye on the episode 1557 01:12:30,893 --> 01:12:32,412 Speaker 4: of Friends. And one A on the road and I 1558 01:12:32,492 --> 01:12:34,772 Speaker 4: thought this is too much. 1559 01:12:34,853 --> 01:12:38,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, episode of Friends, will We'll wait? The show ended 1560 01:12:38,692 --> 01:12:41,333 Speaker 2: in the nineties. Exactly, you can. I'm pretty sure it 1561 01:12:41,412 --> 01:12:43,133 Speaker 2: into the nineties. You can just watch that when you get. 1562 01:12:43,053 --> 01:12:44,852 Speaker 3: Home media reruns to go to later on. 1563 01:12:45,093 --> 01:12:48,172 Speaker 2: It's not emergency information about an alien invasion? 1564 01:12:48,732 --> 01:12:50,412 Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and 1565 01:12:50,492 --> 01:12:52,972 Speaker 4: number to call? What are the gray years of the road? 1566 01:12:53,093 --> 01:12:55,732 Speaker 4: Rules that need to be called out? Or what have 1567 01:12:55,853 --> 01:12:58,173 Speaker 4: you come up against? Love to hear from you? Nineteen 1568 01:12:58,253 --> 01:12:59,452 Speaker 4: ninety two is the text number? 1569 01:12:59,612 --> 01:13:01,253 Speaker 2: Oh no, I got it wrong? 1570 01:13:01,812 --> 01:13:02,333 Speaker 3: What happens? 1571 01:13:02,772 --> 01:13:04,812 Speaker 2: And the final episode of Friends with the sext of 1572 01:13:04,933 --> 01:13:08,372 Speaker 2: May two thousand and four, how dare you shame? The 1573 01:13:08,412 --> 01:13:09,812 Speaker 2: stick said? Why is Colin on the phone? 1574 01:13:10,133 --> 01:13:10,333 Speaker 6: Did I? 1575 01:13:10,452 --> 01:13:12,652 Speaker 2: Did I tell that story? Poorly? That wasn't my dog 1576 01:13:12,692 --> 01:13:14,213 Speaker 2: Colin that was on the phone when the woman was 1577 01:13:14,492 --> 01:13:17,093 Speaker 2: filling out Colin was on the lead. The woman was 1578 01:13:17,133 --> 01:13:17,532 Speaker 2: on the phone. 1579 01:13:17,652 --> 01:13:18,972 Speaker 3: Clearly Colin wasn't on the phone. 1580 01:13:19,053 --> 01:13:21,133 Speaker 2: If Colin wants to jump on the phone on our 1581 01:13:21,173 --> 01:13:23,093 Speaker 2: walks and then my dog's more than welcome to. 1582 01:13:23,213 --> 01:13:23,852 Speaker 3: He's a good boy. 1583 01:13:24,692 --> 01:13:25,572 Speaker 2: I'll get in my headset. 1584 01:13:26,013 --> 01:13:29,372 Speaker 1: It is nine to three, the issues that affect you 1585 01:13:29,772 --> 01:13:31,972 Speaker 1: and a bit of fun along the way Matt Heath 1586 01:13:32,013 --> 01:13:35,452 Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB. 1587 01:13:35,772 --> 01:13:37,973 Speaker 4: News Talks It be it is six two three and 1588 01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:41,213 Speaker 4: we're talking about the gray areas of our road rules. 1589 01:13:41,253 --> 01:13:42,892 Speaker 3: Plenty out there. It seems like one hundred and eight 1590 01:13:43,013 --> 01:13:43,852 Speaker 3: ten eighties number to coop. 1591 01:13:43,933 --> 01:13:46,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we were talking before about the diamond that's 1592 01:13:46,013 --> 01:13:48,492 Speaker 2: painted on the road before a pedestrian crossing, because someone 1593 01:13:48,612 --> 01:13:50,532 Speaker 2: said that reading out of texts that had it wrong 1594 01:13:50,853 --> 01:13:54,412 Speaker 2: could lead to people, Oh, dremante dramatic. It was a 1595 01:13:54,492 --> 01:14:01,092 Speaker 2: dramatic text from that numpty that cotton headed Ninny Muggins. 1596 01:14:01,333 --> 01:14:02,293 Speaker 3: Nice, that's a good one. 1597 01:14:02,412 --> 01:14:04,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good Let's make a night of that. 1598 01:14:04,532 --> 01:14:06,732 Speaker 2: That's from the movie Elf. Put that in your repertoire 1599 01:14:06,772 --> 01:14:08,893 Speaker 2: of soft insults, Tyler, I have. I've just written that 1600 01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:10,772 Speaker 2: one down. Here we go. The diamonds painted on the 1601 01:14:10,853 --> 01:14:13,053 Speaker 2: road might not mean what you think they mean. This 1602 01:14:13,213 --> 01:14:17,052 Speaker 2: is from an article from twenty twenty four. On Sunday, 1603 01:14:17,053 --> 01:14:19,892 Speaker 2: Wellington cyclist James Sullivan was almost hit by a countdown 1604 01:14:19,933 --> 01:14:22,652 Speaker 2: delivery truck after he stopped for a pedestrian carrying a 1605 01:14:22,772 --> 01:14:25,852 Speaker 2: baby across the road. He recorded the footage on his 1606 01:14:25,973 --> 01:14:29,372 Speaker 2: bike cameras showing the delivery truck was centimeters from his 1607 01:14:29,452 --> 01:14:31,692 Speaker 2: bike when it passed him. In response, several readers and 1608 01:14:31,853 --> 01:14:34,372 Speaker 2: social media users raised the point that both Sullivan and 1609 01:14:34,412 --> 01:14:36,412 Speaker 2: the truck had gone past the diamond painted on the 1610 01:14:36,492 --> 01:14:41,692 Speaker 2: road in their incorrect interpretation of the road code code. 1611 01:14:41,812 --> 01:14:45,092 Speaker 2: This article in this paper needs an editor. The vehicles 1612 01:14:45,133 --> 01:14:47,213 Speaker 2: did not have to stop for the pedestrian once they 1613 01:14:47,253 --> 01:14:50,772 Speaker 2: had passed the diamond. This is not the case. According 1614 01:14:50,812 --> 01:14:53,652 Speaker 2: to the road code and guidance from Waka Kotahi in 1615 01:14:53,812 --> 01:14:56,532 Speaker 2: z Transport Agency, drivers must always be ready to stop 1616 01:14:56,532 --> 01:14:59,652 Speaker 2: at a pedestrian crossing. The diamonds do not come into 1617 01:14:59,692 --> 01:15:03,253 Speaker 2: it like a triangle on the road for a giveway sign. 1618 01:15:03,333 --> 01:15:05,293 Speaker 2: A diamond on the road for a pedestrian crossing is 1619 01:15:05,333 --> 01:15:07,892 Speaker 2: a warning. It means a pedestrian crossing is coming up 1620 01:15:08,372 --> 01:15:10,612 Speaker 2: and you should be aware of surroundings. I mean it 1621 01:15:10,652 --> 01:15:13,293 Speaker 2: would be insane for someone even if the rule was 1622 01:15:13,372 --> 01:15:15,932 Speaker 2: different from that you're trying and force it. I mean, 1623 01:15:15,973 --> 01:15:18,652 Speaker 2: if you're coming up to a zebra crossing or a 1624 01:15:18,692 --> 01:15:21,053 Speaker 2: pedestrian crossing. I mean, I remember once a cop came 1625 01:15:21,093 --> 01:15:22,293 Speaker 2: to our school and told me off for calling it 1626 01:15:22,293 --> 01:15:24,372 Speaker 2: at zebra crossing when I was five. You said you're 1627 01:15:24,412 --> 01:15:26,612 Speaker 2: too old to be calling it a pedestrian a zebra crossing. 1628 01:15:26,612 --> 01:15:28,333 Speaker 2: As a pedestrian crossing, you know, there's a different issue. 1629 01:15:29,412 --> 01:15:31,293 Speaker 2: If you're coming up to it, you're looking and going 1630 01:15:31,452 --> 01:15:33,692 Speaker 2: as there, you're looking to stop at a pedestrian crossing 1631 01:15:33,692 --> 01:15:35,772 Speaker 2: one hundred percent, you're looking even you're even looking at 1632 01:15:35,812 --> 01:15:38,492 Speaker 2: pedestrians are close and looking and hunting that they're going 1633 01:15:38,532 --> 01:15:41,492 Speaker 2: to come across. Yeah, you know, well, once they're on there, 1634 01:15:42,053 --> 01:15:44,173 Speaker 2: you're not enforcing any issue. No one's looking at their 1635 01:15:44,253 --> 01:15:45,973 Speaker 2: road rual book and saying, oh, I'm in the right 1636 01:15:46,053 --> 01:15:47,572 Speaker 2: arway here. I'm just going to keep going to mow 1637 01:15:47,652 --> 01:15:49,892 Speaker 2: this person down. Of course they're not right. 1638 01:15:49,893 --> 01:15:52,572 Speaker 4: We're going to carry this on after three o'clock. So 1639 01:15:52,732 --> 01:15:55,173 Speaker 4: plenty of great texts coming through on nine two ninety two. 1640 01:15:55,412 --> 01:15:56,932 Speaker 4: But can you hear from you on O eight hundred 1641 01:15:56,933 --> 01:15:58,573 Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty. 1642 01:15:58,652 --> 01:16:00,932 Speaker 2: And also we've got Steve coming up from Hawks Bay 1643 01:16:01,053 --> 01:16:02,412 Speaker 2: wants to talk about the Numpty issue. 1644 01:16:02,612 --> 01:16:04,852 Speaker 4: That's what everybody wants to know right that is coming 1645 01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:06,892 Speaker 4: up New Sport of Weather on its way. You're listening 1646 01:16:06,933 --> 01:16:10,012 Speaker 4: to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon, Loot the past. 1647 01:16:09,853 --> 01:16:16,933 Speaker 2: Be the pasts, wavers, your new homes are instateful and 1648 01:16:17,333 --> 01:16:18,213 Speaker 2: entertaining talk. 1649 01:16:18,492 --> 01:16:23,933 Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyler Adams Afternoons on news Talk Sevy for. 1650 01:16:23,973 --> 01:16:24,612 Speaker 3: A good afternoons. 1651 01:16:24,652 --> 01:16:27,412 Speaker 4: You welcome back into the program seven pass three, just 1652 01:16:27,532 --> 01:16:30,213 Speaker 4: before we get back into the discussion about great areas 1653 01:16:30,253 --> 01:16:33,652 Speaker 4: of our road rules. Father's Day is of course on Sunday, 1654 01:16:33,732 --> 01:16:36,652 Speaker 4: fast approaching, and if you've left it to the last minute, 1655 01:16:36,692 --> 01:16:38,532 Speaker 4: you don't have to worry because Matt's got your sworded. 1656 01:16:38,572 --> 01:16:40,612 Speaker 4: We've got a few downloads of his number one best 1657 01:16:40,612 --> 01:16:43,652 Speaker 4: selling audiobook, A Life Less Punishing thirteen Reasons to Love 1658 01:16:43,732 --> 01:16:47,052 Speaker 4: the Life You've got. It's read by the man himself 1659 01:16:47,093 --> 01:16:50,012 Speaker 4: and it's currently available everywhere you get your audio books 1660 01:16:50,053 --> 01:16:54,253 Speaker 4: from Apple, Spotify, Google Play, Audible, et cetera. So if 1661 01:16:54,293 --> 01:16:56,972 Speaker 4: you've been a bit tardy and you've left it right 1662 01:16:57,053 --> 01:16:59,013 Speaker 4: to the last minute, your dad will be chuffed with 1663 01:16:59,053 --> 01:17:01,013 Speaker 4: one of these. So to get in the drawer, just 1664 01:17:01,173 --> 01:17:04,652 Speaker 4: text Punishing and your full name to nine to ninety 1665 01:17:04,652 --> 01:17:06,933 Speaker 4: two and Matt will pick a couple of winners. But 1666 01:17:07,013 --> 01:17:10,572 Speaker 4: that will be a nice eight for Father's Day, yeah right. 1667 01:17:10,772 --> 01:17:13,212 Speaker 2: Or if you just want to sniffle it for yourself. 1668 01:17:13,333 --> 01:17:14,532 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean we. 1669 01:17:14,572 --> 01:17:17,692 Speaker 4: Know exactly good points nine two ninety two just takes 1670 01:17:17,732 --> 01:17:19,133 Speaker 4: punishing and your full name. 1671 01:17:19,572 --> 01:17:20,652 Speaker 3: So back to this discussion. 1672 01:17:20,692 --> 01:17:23,372 Speaker 4: We started off mentioning who gives way to who when 1673 01:17:23,532 --> 01:17:26,333 Speaker 4: you meet another driver on a narrow road, But it's 1674 01:17:26,412 --> 01:17:27,333 Speaker 4: become much. 1675 01:17:27,213 --> 01:17:29,932 Speaker 3: Wider than that. Great areas of the road rule. 1676 01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:31,732 Speaker 4: That is just one of them, but there are so 1677 01:17:31,853 --> 01:17:34,013 Speaker 4: many coming through on nine two ninety two, and we 1678 01:17:34,093 --> 01:17:35,333 Speaker 4: want to hear from you on oh, eight hundred and 1679 01:17:35,372 --> 01:17:36,253 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty as well. 1680 01:17:36,612 --> 01:17:40,253 Speaker 2: This Texas is can you drink while you're driving? And look, 1681 01:17:40,293 --> 01:17:42,253 Speaker 2: that sounds like a silly question, but if actually think 1682 01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:44,973 Speaker 2: about a bit deeper, of course you can drink a 1683 01:17:46,293 --> 01:17:50,492 Speaker 2: softwaink you drinking you're driving? Yes, but surely if you 1684 01:17:50,572 --> 01:17:52,652 Speaker 2: remain under the alcohol limit, it's not a great look 1685 01:17:52,933 --> 01:17:56,333 Speaker 2: and it may, you know, excite the entrance interest of 1686 01:17:56,372 --> 01:17:59,253 Speaker 2: the police. But surely if you're under the limit, then 1687 01:17:59,293 --> 01:18:02,372 Speaker 2: you could drink a alcoholic drink while you're driving the car, 1688 01:18:02,452 --> 01:18:04,213 Speaker 2: as long as you didn't drink to the point of 1689 01:18:04,372 --> 01:18:05,372 Speaker 2: being over the limit. 1690 01:18:05,532 --> 01:18:07,852 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is that a loophole that 1691 01:18:07,973 --> 01:18:09,932 Speaker 4: if you've had a big date at the ski field 1692 01:18:09,973 --> 01:18:11,852 Speaker 4: and you decide to crack a beer on the drive home, 1693 01:18:12,053 --> 01:18:13,692 Speaker 4: and it's your only beer of the day, and it's 1694 01:18:13,732 --> 01:18:17,093 Speaker 4: the only beer you're going to have, then you're under 1695 01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:17,532 Speaker 4: the limit. 1696 01:18:18,173 --> 01:18:20,612 Speaker 3: That's the gray area. I'm sure that's that's the case. 1697 01:18:20,812 --> 01:18:23,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Well, would make sense because if you're 1698 01:18:23,253 --> 01:18:25,213 Speaker 2: not if you're not drunk, then you're not breaking the law. 1699 01:18:25,692 --> 01:18:25,892 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1700 01:18:26,213 --> 01:18:28,012 Speaker 2: But I mean if you go driving past the cops 1701 01:18:28,053 --> 01:18:30,173 Speaker 2: and you're got. 1702 01:18:29,692 --> 01:18:31,333 Speaker 3: A heinie in your in your gob. 1703 01:18:31,293 --> 01:18:34,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got it. You've got an espresso martini in 1704 01:18:34,692 --> 01:18:38,053 Speaker 2: your hand, that would be impressive. Then they're probably gonna 1705 01:18:38,133 --> 01:18:39,452 Speaker 2: they're probably gonna to have a chat to you. 1706 01:18:39,612 --> 01:18:42,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number 1707 01:18:42,452 --> 01:18:42,812 Speaker 3: to call. 1708 01:18:42,933 --> 01:18:45,052 Speaker 2: Oh, Steve, you want to talk about the numpty issue. 1709 01:18:45,772 --> 01:18:48,532 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll just answer your first question. Just you're drinking. 1710 01:18:48,933 --> 01:18:51,293 Speaker 10: So that's that's an American thing. If you've got an 1711 01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:53,692 Speaker 10: open vessel in your vehicle while you're driving, it doesn't 1712 01:18:53,692 --> 01:18:55,772 Speaker 10: matter if it's a passenger in the back seat or anywhere. 1713 01:18:56,013 --> 01:18:58,852 Speaker 10: You get done to DUI but if you deal no 1714 01:18:58,973 --> 01:19:01,253 Speaker 10: problems at all, you can drive home with a heinie 1715 01:19:01,253 --> 01:19:03,652 Speaker 10: in your hands. As long as you're not over the 1716 01:19:03,692 --> 01:19:07,772 Speaker 10: limit and you haven't blown over two fifty, Yeah, you're 1717 01:19:07,812 --> 01:19:08,173 Speaker 10: good to go. 1718 01:19:09,093 --> 01:19:12,213 Speaker 2: Which which which makes sense because because you're not committing 1719 01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:14,612 Speaker 2: a crime, because because it's silly, because because if you 1720 01:19:14,652 --> 01:19:16,372 Speaker 2: could have had the one beer as you were leaning 1721 01:19:16,412 --> 01:19:18,932 Speaker 2: against the car before you get in. Exactly, it's it's 1722 01:19:19,013 --> 01:19:21,492 Speaker 2: the state of abriation and they've decided the limit of that. 1723 01:19:21,692 --> 01:19:23,572 Speaker 6: So so yeah, it's probably not. 1724 01:19:23,572 --> 01:19:25,772 Speaker 10: The safest thing to do, Like driving your phone in 1725 01:19:25,812 --> 01:19:27,452 Speaker 10: your handles space, it's probably not much difference. 1726 01:19:27,652 --> 01:19:31,253 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't I don't think there's 1727 01:19:31,253 --> 01:19:33,333 Speaker 2: something about that doesn't feel right. But you know you 1728 01:19:33,532 --> 01:19:35,772 Speaker 2: did you You've done it a few times, Steve. It's enjoyable, 1729 01:19:36,053 --> 01:19:36,333 Speaker 2: I feel. 1730 01:19:36,372 --> 01:19:38,173 Speaker 10: And I ran the booze I ran the booze bus 1731 01:19:38,293 --> 01:19:42,013 Speaker 10: and Thomas and North. You know, I think it's all 1732 01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:42,852 Speaker 10: about drink driving. 1733 01:19:43,333 --> 01:19:45,532 Speaker 2: Did you did anyone anyone ever pull up to the 1734 01:19:45,572 --> 01:19:47,333 Speaker 2: booze bus under the limit drinking and beer? 1735 01:19:48,692 --> 01:19:52,692 Speaker 10: I can't remember. Actually, the best story I've got Well, 1736 01:19:52,973 --> 01:19:56,013 Speaker 10: if you've got time, this is a classic, right, so 1737 01:19:56,492 --> 01:19:58,173 Speaker 10: I was very young in the job. Is that pun 1738 01:19:58,253 --> 01:20:01,333 Speaker 10: or tevan rocked up at about eleven o'clock was closing time, 1739 01:20:01,412 --> 01:20:03,213 Speaker 10: and there must have been one hundred cars in there, 1740 01:20:03,213 --> 01:20:04,452 Speaker 10: and I thought, man, I'm going to get a drink 1741 01:20:04,492 --> 01:20:06,933 Speaker 10: driver for sure. This is awesome. Guy stumbled out of 1742 01:20:06,973 --> 01:20:08,293 Speaker 10: the pub. This is a true story, by the way, 1743 01:20:08,973 --> 01:20:11,013 Speaker 10: and he drops his keys and he finally gets the car, 1744 01:20:11,053 --> 01:20:13,412 Speaker 10: and he finally gets his car, and I'm just rubbing 1745 01:20:13,492 --> 01:20:16,692 Speaker 10: my hands, going, oh, this is good. It's like going fishing, mate, 1746 01:20:17,333 --> 01:20:19,452 Speaker 10: And he speeds up the road. He jumps to the 1747 01:20:19,532 --> 01:20:22,852 Speaker 10: carry rockets off and hell so I'm tearing up the 1748 01:20:22,973 --> 01:20:25,093 Speaker 10: road after him, and I catch him about two k's later, 1749 01:20:25,253 --> 01:20:27,972 Speaker 10: and I put enough. I get back to the tapoona 1750 01:20:27,973 --> 01:20:29,933 Speaker 10: t heaven and there was not a car left in 1751 01:20:29,973 --> 01:20:30,253 Speaker 10: the car. 1752 01:20:31,652 --> 01:20:31,892 Speaker 13: Ah. 1753 01:20:32,253 --> 01:20:36,333 Speaker 3: He was the wee decoy, the rabbit. They called it 1754 01:20:36,452 --> 01:20:36,932 Speaker 3: the rabbit. 1755 01:20:37,933 --> 01:20:40,532 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the. 1756 01:20:40,612 --> 01:20:42,692 Speaker 2: Dark side of the designated driver, isn't it. 1757 01:20:42,812 --> 01:20:46,612 Speaker 3: WoT You've got a smile though, don't you, designated rabbit? 1758 01:20:47,093 --> 01:20:47,293 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1759 01:20:47,612 --> 01:20:51,612 Speaker 2: So he did an impressive drunk persons impression, got in 1760 01:20:51,692 --> 01:20:54,213 Speaker 2: the car, threw away the. 1761 01:20:54,213 --> 01:20:58,052 Speaker 10: Policeman because the obviously saw me parked up down the road. Yeah, 1762 01:20:58,572 --> 01:21:00,893 Speaker 10: we got on stated it and they got away with it. 1763 01:21:01,053 --> 01:21:02,973 Speaker 10: And obviously the no one crashed that night, so it 1764 01:21:03,053 --> 01:21:05,213 Speaker 10: was a good, good result all around. But what I 1765 01:21:05,253 --> 01:21:08,293 Speaker 10: was ringing about because one of my boys were nicknamed 1766 01:21:08,492 --> 01:21:11,333 Speaker 10: Numpty on the boost bus and he was a classic. 1767 01:21:11,412 --> 01:21:14,012 Speaker 10: He one day was a public holiday and he didn't 1768 01:21:14,053 --> 01:21:16,053 Speaker 10: turn up to work and we bring him where the 1769 01:21:16,093 --> 01:21:18,452 Speaker 10: hell are you? And he goes, oh, I didn't think 1770 01:21:18,532 --> 01:21:23,932 Speaker 10: we had to work on a public holiday. And then 1771 01:21:23,973 --> 01:21:26,333 Speaker 10: it gets worse, and so we're round one and he 1772 01:21:26,452 --> 01:21:28,973 Speaker 10: and you know, we get a lot of chases, right, 1773 01:21:29,053 --> 01:21:32,173 Speaker 10: and we're chasing some I don't know, a stolen car 1774 01:21:32,293 --> 01:21:35,333 Speaker 10: or something or drunk driver around the streets and everyone's 1775 01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:37,772 Speaker 10: coming in from We had about five or six cars 1776 01:21:37,812 --> 01:21:40,532 Speaker 10: out chasing trying to catch this guy. And we finally 1777 01:21:40,612 --> 01:21:42,092 Speaker 10: catch him and we all go back to the station 1778 01:21:42,253 --> 01:21:44,812 Speaker 10: and there's Numpty back at the station. I said, mate, 1779 01:21:44,812 --> 01:21:46,293 Speaker 10: why didn't you enjoy it? When did you join in? 1780 01:21:46,412 --> 01:21:46,852 Speaker 7: Where were you? 1781 01:21:47,452 --> 01:21:47,612 Speaker 18: Well? 1782 01:21:47,692 --> 01:21:49,692 Speaker 10: I didn't want to get lost, so I just drove 1783 01:21:49,933 --> 01:21:52,133 Speaker 10: one block around the police station and just went around 1784 01:21:52,133 --> 01:21:56,652 Speaker 10: in a circle all night. I kid you not, this 1785 01:21:56,893 --> 01:21:58,692 Speaker 10: is a policemen. He went through Police College. 1786 01:21:58,732 --> 01:22:02,053 Speaker 2: And there's so many people. There's so many people that 1787 01:22:02,173 --> 01:22:04,652 Speaker 2: don't get through police College. So many people that don't 1788 01:22:04,652 --> 01:22:06,572 Speaker 2: even get into police College. It's one in ten that 1789 01:22:06,692 --> 01:22:08,052 Speaker 2: even get in litt alone pass. 1790 01:22:08,492 --> 01:22:08,812 Speaker 13: Do you know what? 1791 01:22:08,973 --> 01:22:10,173 Speaker 7: He was book smart? 1792 01:22:10,253 --> 01:22:11,012 Speaker 5: He was box smart. 1793 01:22:11,173 --> 01:22:12,012 Speaker 10: He works for the council. 1794 01:22:12,093 --> 01:22:14,293 Speaker 3: Now, I was going to ask whatever to Numpty? Now 1795 01:22:14,412 --> 01:22:15,293 Speaker 3: is he still called numbty? 1796 01:22:16,372 --> 01:22:16,692 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1797 01:22:17,053 --> 01:22:20,893 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, he called it affectionately, but I mean you 1798 01:22:21,013 --> 01:22:23,772 Speaker 10: go even said one day when I got a tick through, 1799 01:22:23,893 --> 01:22:26,372 Speaker 10: is he chewing your ear Off's Numpty chewing yeary off? 1800 01:22:26,412 --> 01:22:28,732 Speaker 10: And he picks up my phone and goes, do they 1801 01:22:28,812 --> 01:22:29,812 Speaker 10: still call me Numpty? 1802 01:22:32,452 --> 01:22:33,173 Speaker 2: Great story? 1803 01:22:34,253 --> 01:22:34,452 Speaker 17: Great? 1804 01:22:34,492 --> 01:22:35,253 Speaker 3: He's in the Yeah. 1805 01:22:35,333 --> 01:22:35,853 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1806 01:22:35,973 --> 01:22:37,532 Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 1807 01:22:37,612 --> 01:22:40,612 Speaker 4: number to call great areas on the road code. There's 1808 01:22:40,652 --> 01:22:42,253 Speaker 4: so many ticks coming through on nine to two, nine 1809 01:22:42,293 --> 01:22:42,772 Speaker 4: to two as well. 1810 01:22:43,572 --> 01:22:46,532 Speaker 2: If you're over, take a deep breath and blow as 1811 01:22:46,572 --> 01:22:48,333 Speaker 2: hard as you can. It's the idiots that blow as 1812 01:22:48,372 --> 01:22:50,852 Speaker 2: gently as possible that always felt. No, there's no. 1813 01:22:51,013 --> 01:22:51,333 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1814 01:22:51,452 --> 01:22:53,652 Speaker 4: That sounds like an old wife star. I don't know 1815 01:22:53,692 --> 01:22:55,933 Speaker 4: if you can outbreathe the breathalyzer. 1816 01:22:56,173 --> 01:22:58,412 Speaker 2: No, I think I think the best approach is to 1817 01:22:59,093 --> 01:23:00,012 Speaker 2: probably not drive drunk. 1818 01:23:00,293 --> 01:23:01,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was that was rule. 1819 01:23:02,293 --> 01:23:03,572 Speaker 2: But that's the best way not to get panned for 1820 01:23:03,692 --> 01:23:04,173 Speaker 2: drink driving. 1821 01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:04,852 Speaker 3: That's how you beat it. 1822 01:23:06,253 --> 01:23:08,412 Speaker 2: Hey, lads, you're not allowed to drive while speaking on 1823 01:23:08,492 --> 01:23:10,492 Speaker 2: the phone, But what if I drive with the banana 1824 01:23:10,572 --> 01:23:13,572 Speaker 2: to my ear and starts talking to that? Is that illegal? 1825 01:23:13,732 --> 01:23:17,372 Speaker 2: What's the difference between that and a phone? No, that's interesting. 1826 01:23:17,692 --> 01:23:18,333 Speaker 3: It's a good point. 1827 01:23:18,372 --> 01:23:20,652 Speaker 2: It's a good question. But I mean, that's the thing. 1828 01:23:20,692 --> 01:23:20,852 Speaker 16: I mean. 1829 01:23:20,853 --> 01:23:23,213 Speaker 2: I also think like drink eating a really hot pie. 1830 01:23:23,452 --> 01:23:26,412 Speaker 2: There used to be these spinach and cheese pies, so 1831 01:23:26,492 --> 01:23:28,133 Speaker 2: you get from posibly pies. Yeah, it was the only 1832 01:23:28,213 --> 01:23:31,092 Speaker 2: vegetarian pile alight. But the first bite it would always 1833 01:23:31,732 --> 01:23:34,932 Speaker 2: unleash like a waterfall of boiling hot water. That would 1834 01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:38,132 Speaker 2: cause you to scream in agony. Yeah, that's right, driving 1835 01:23:38,173 --> 01:23:40,253 Speaker 2: and anyone in them, Yeah, you know, I nearly it 1836 01:23:40,452 --> 01:23:42,772 Speaker 2: nearly caused an accident a bit, far far worse than 1837 01:23:42,812 --> 01:23:43,452 Speaker 2: talking on the phone. 1838 01:23:43,692 --> 01:23:46,212 Speaker 3: Wasn't there an ad where it was about driver distraction? 1839 01:23:46,333 --> 01:23:48,293 Speaker 4: And there was one feller in the air that was 1840 01:23:48,333 --> 01:23:50,732 Speaker 4: eating his pie boon to hands and then he drove 1841 01:23:50,772 --> 01:23:51,932 Speaker 4: off the side of the rown into a fence. 1842 01:23:51,973 --> 01:23:55,532 Speaker 2: I could see that aning I just drove over three crossings. 1843 01:23:55,612 --> 01:23:57,572 Speaker 2: The diamond is at least twenty meters away from the crossing. 1844 01:23:57,652 --> 01:23:59,732 Speaker 2: So yes, it's a warning of a crossing. Yeah, I 1845 01:23:59,772 --> 01:24:01,732 Speaker 2: mean I think we all we all kind of knew that. 1846 01:24:01,812 --> 01:24:04,133 Speaker 2: It was just someone that got excited and thought that 1847 01:24:04,772 --> 01:24:06,973 Speaker 2: if you get it, if you're past the diamond, you 1848 01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:09,132 Speaker 2: can put your foot down and playoff through the pedestrian. 1849 01:24:09,213 --> 01:24:10,933 Speaker 3: Yes, no one's going to get that smug just to 1850 01:24:11,093 --> 01:24:11,812 Speaker 3: mow down somebody. 1851 01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:13,933 Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to 1852 01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:16,572 Speaker 4: call the gray areas of our road rules. 1853 01:24:16,652 --> 01:24:17,293 Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. 1854 01:24:17,412 --> 01:24:19,333 Speaker 2: It is quarter past three US Talks. 1855 01:24:19,333 --> 01:24:21,452 Speaker 4: It'd be very good afternoon to you're talking about the 1856 01:24:21,492 --> 01:24:24,492 Speaker 4: gray areas of the road code where people might not 1857 01:24:24,572 --> 01:24:26,973 Speaker 4: be familiar with the law or there might not be 1858 01:24:27,173 --> 01:24:30,093 Speaker 4: any rules that actually apply. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 1859 01:24:30,213 --> 01:24:32,772 Speaker 4: ten eighty. It started off with something that a lot 1860 01:24:32,772 --> 01:24:35,333 Speaker 4: of people have faced. You come to a narrow road, 1861 01:24:36,093 --> 01:24:38,452 Speaker 4: cars parked on both sides, and you meet someone in 1862 01:24:38,492 --> 01:24:40,572 Speaker 4: the middle who gives way, and it turns out there's 1863 01:24:40,612 --> 01:24:43,692 Speaker 4: no actual official rules. It's based on courtesy, But can 1864 01:24:43,732 --> 01:24:45,133 Speaker 4: you hear from you on I eight hundred and eighty 1865 01:24:45,213 --> 01:24:46,213 Speaker 4: ten eighty. 1866 01:24:46,133 --> 01:24:48,572 Speaker 2: Maybe, because it'll be hard to make a rule because 1867 01:24:48,572 --> 01:24:51,052 Speaker 2: it'd be quite complicated. Say well, if you are closer 1868 01:24:51,133 --> 01:24:53,333 Speaker 2: to a gap where you can pull over to let 1869 01:24:53,412 --> 01:24:56,053 Speaker 2: the person through, then you let them go through it. 1870 01:24:56,093 --> 01:24:57,892 Speaker 2: You know, we have to be a very hard thing 1871 01:24:58,452 --> 01:25:00,452 Speaker 2: to work out. But what happens in an accident? 1872 01:25:00,452 --> 01:25:02,492 Speaker 4: I've always thought about that because it's calm close to 1873 01:25:02,572 --> 01:25:05,172 Speaker 4: losing my wing mirror a couple of times in that scenario. 1874 01:25:05,333 --> 01:25:07,452 Speaker 2: But if I lose my wing in terms of who 1875 01:25:07,973 --> 01:25:10,892 Speaker 2: takes capability and as far as insurance is concerned or something. 1876 01:25:11,053 --> 01:25:13,213 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So what happens in that scenario where you 1877 01:25:13,293 --> 01:25:16,172 Speaker 4: call the police and say we were both yeah, gunning 1878 01:25:16,253 --> 01:25:17,812 Speaker 4: for it, Yeah we could make it work. 1879 01:25:18,013 --> 01:25:20,452 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you you know, got angry and ended up 1880 01:25:20,452 --> 01:25:23,213 Speaker 2: in a game of sort of half chicken. Yeah, yeah, 1881 01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:26,333 Speaker 2: that would that would be interesting if. 1882 01:25:26,253 --> 01:25:27,492 Speaker 3: You've ever been in that situation. 1883 01:25:27,853 --> 01:25:29,333 Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a situation where you've got 1884 01:25:29,372 --> 01:25:31,333 Speaker 2: both gone through and then one of you said to 1885 01:25:31,372 --> 01:25:34,892 Speaker 2: reverse yep, right, and was that you No, you don't 1886 01:25:34,893 --> 01:25:37,333 Speaker 2: have my ground. I held my ground and we were 1887 01:25:37,372 --> 01:25:40,093 Speaker 2: both really angry. And again I didn't feel good about 1888 01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:42,692 Speaker 2: myself after this, but I just refused and then ended 1889 01:25:42,772 --> 01:25:43,692 Speaker 2: up getting out of the car. 1890 01:25:43,812 --> 01:25:45,572 Speaker 4: He got out of the car. But then in the 1891 01:25:45,812 --> 01:25:48,372 Speaker 4: end the people are honking behind us. Sorted that out. 1892 01:25:48,412 --> 01:25:50,412 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's not a situation you really want to 1893 01:25:50,452 --> 01:25:50,852 Speaker 3: get into. 1894 01:25:52,053 --> 01:25:54,692 Speaker 2: Isn't that silly? How angry we get on the roads? 1895 01:25:54,772 --> 01:25:56,973 Speaker 3: Come on, I look back at that just as I 1896 01:25:57,053 --> 01:25:59,572 Speaker 3: was saying that, man, man, you're a numpty tiler. Why 1897 01:25:59,652 --> 01:26:01,093 Speaker 3: did you just get to that point? Should it just 1898 01:26:01,213 --> 01:26:03,293 Speaker 3: reversed and let them through? It's not the end of 1899 01:26:03,333 --> 01:26:03,612 Speaker 3: the world. 1900 01:26:03,772 --> 01:26:05,972 Speaker 2: Hey, lads, can you drink zero alcohol bea while driving? 1901 01:26:06,053 --> 01:26:07,933 Speaker 2: Cheers Shane. Yeah you can smash them back because you 1902 01:26:07,973 --> 01:26:10,253 Speaker 2: can any of you from slamming soda. 1903 01:26:10,372 --> 01:26:12,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, go hard on those ross. 1904 01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:14,772 Speaker 23: How are you good things? Mate? 1905 01:26:14,772 --> 01:26:16,692 Speaker 3: And you yeah very well. So you want to talk 1906 01:26:16,692 --> 01:26:17,652 Speaker 3: about who gives way to who? 1907 01:26:18,572 --> 01:26:19,093 Speaker 23: That's right? 1908 01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:19,532 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1909 01:26:20,013 --> 01:26:23,013 Speaker 23: How how it actually works of living Willington And I'll 1910 01:26:23,053 --> 01:26:26,452 Speaker 23: be also, I've been a driver trainer. How it works 1911 01:26:26,492 --> 01:26:29,333 Speaker 23: for the narrow roads with cars parked on the side 1912 01:26:29,372 --> 01:26:32,972 Speaker 23: of the road. Say I'm for example, say I'm driving 1913 01:26:33,093 --> 01:26:35,812 Speaker 23: north and there's a park car on my side of 1914 01:26:35,853 --> 01:26:37,972 Speaker 23: the road that I've got to go round, and there's 1915 01:26:37,973 --> 01:26:41,732 Speaker 23: a car coming south, I have to actually give way 1916 01:26:41,812 --> 01:26:45,892 Speaker 23: to the car coming south because there is what's called 1917 01:26:45,933 --> 01:26:50,812 Speaker 23: an imaginary center line, right, and I across that center 1918 01:26:50,933 --> 01:26:54,093 Speaker 23: line in in front of it of the car that's 1919 01:26:54,133 --> 01:26:57,293 Speaker 23: coming south and I haven't, I can be charged with 1920 01:26:57,492 --> 01:26:59,053 Speaker 23: driving on the wrong side of the road. 1921 01:26:59,893 --> 01:27:02,372 Speaker 2: Right, So the center line. If this car is parked 1922 01:27:02,372 --> 01:27:05,133 Speaker 2: along one side of the road, that center line is 1923 01:27:05,213 --> 01:27:07,692 Speaker 2: not affected by the cars obviously, that's just down the 1924 01:27:07,772 --> 01:27:08,972 Speaker 2: center of the actual road. 1925 01:27:09,612 --> 01:27:10,093 Speaker 23: That's right. 1926 01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:12,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That does make sense. 1927 01:27:12,772 --> 01:27:16,572 Speaker 23: Now, if you've got so you've got a guy who 1928 01:27:16,732 --> 01:27:19,093 Speaker 23: wants to play chicken with you, then he wants to 1929 01:27:19,173 --> 01:27:25,133 Speaker 23: come through first, it's still maybe and for example, maybe 1930 01:27:25,213 --> 01:27:27,852 Speaker 23: you get to the car that you want to go 1931 01:27:28,013 --> 01:27:34,452 Speaker 23: around first. That still that rule still applies. If if 1932 01:27:34,772 --> 01:27:40,253 Speaker 23: he plays chicken with you and he hits you, you're 1933 01:27:40,293 --> 01:27:42,372 Speaker 23: still at fault for cross and that center line. 1934 01:27:43,173 --> 01:27:46,452 Speaker 2: What if both of you have crossed the center line ross, 1935 01:27:46,492 --> 01:27:47,892 Speaker 2: Where do you end up in that scenario? 1936 01:27:49,213 --> 01:27:52,213 Speaker 23: Well, then then it's up to a discretion really on 1937 01:27:52,452 --> 01:27:55,612 Speaker 23: who who was going to give way to whom? 1938 01:27:55,893 --> 01:27:59,692 Speaker 2: M yeah, yeah, what advice do you give to when 1939 01:27:59,692 --> 01:28:03,213 Speaker 2: you're teaching kids to drive, because imagine around Wellington it's 1940 01:28:03,772 --> 01:28:05,732 Speaker 2: this is quite a big issue with the narrow streets. 1941 01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:09,173 Speaker 2: There some very complicated streets there. What advice do you 1942 01:28:09,253 --> 01:28:12,093 Speaker 2: give them, you know, for gray area things like this. 1943 01:28:15,612 --> 01:28:19,253 Speaker 23: Well, basically a good example of us is especially with 1944 01:28:19,333 --> 01:28:23,253 Speaker 23: the willingtoon bus drivers. If I've got big busses and 1945 01:28:23,572 --> 01:28:26,652 Speaker 23: they seem to think because A're bigger than you, they 1946 01:28:26,812 --> 01:28:32,572 Speaker 23: have the right away, generally I would turn around and say, 1947 01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:38,492 Speaker 23: just pull, just use your courtesy, even though you've got 1948 01:28:38,532 --> 01:28:41,412 Speaker 23: the right away, let them go, just let. 1949 01:28:41,372 --> 01:28:42,132 Speaker 7: Them go first. 1950 01:28:42,612 --> 01:28:46,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well courtesy, isn't it like? 1951 01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:48,452 Speaker 4: And I get that, but I suppose what goes wrong 1952 01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:51,933 Speaker 4: with that old who gives way situation is try to 1953 01:28:52,013 --> 01:28:54,812 Speaker 4: be courteous and snow skin off my nose. Just let 1954 01:28:54,853 --> 01:28:56,772 Speaker 4: people pass if they've got if they are more of 1955 01:28:56,772 --> 01:29:00,572 Speaker 4: a hurry, which they usually are, but then you feel 1956 01:29:00,612 --> 01:29:02,652 Speaker 4: like you're doing a good deed, and then they don't wave, 1957 01:29:02,732 --> 01:29:06,012 Speaker 4: so that annoys me, and then again someone starts racing 1958 01:29:06,133 --> 01:29:08,572 Speaker 4: up ross to try and squeeze in there. At that 1959 01:29:08,692 --> 01:29:11,253 Speaker 4: point I'd lose it and say not, you've taken the pass. 1960 01:29:11,572 --> 01:29:13,612 Speaker 4: I've tried to be courteous, tried to do the right 1961 01:29:13,692 --> 01:29:16,692 Speaker 4: thing here, but you are letting the side down. That's 1962 01:29:16,732 --> 01:29:17,652 Speaker 4: where it all goes wrong for me. 1963 01:29:17,772 --> 01:29:18,012 Speaker 8: Ross. 1964 01:29:18,853 --> 01:29:21,812 Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, and I agree. I agree. I mean, you know, 1965 01:29:22,572 --> 01:29:24,293 Speaker 23: you could sit on the side of the road and 1966 01:29:24,412 --> 01:29:28,973 Speaker 23: let all the cars first, you know, you know, I mean, 1967 01:29:29,213 --> 01:29:34,732 Speaker 23: as long as you know you let the car that's 1968 01:29:35,133 --> 01:29:38,053 Speaker 23: nearest to you, the front car, you let that through. 1969 01:29:38,133 --> 01:29:40,973 Speaker 23: And if there's a couple of cars behind you, let 1970 01:29:41,053 --> 01:29:43,812 Speaker 23: them follow through too. If it's a get then you 1971 01:29:44,013 --> 01:29:46,572 Speaker 23: take you take off, You go around and make that 1972 01:29:46,692 --> 01:29:50,572 Speaker 23: other person slow down and liet you three. 1973 01:29:50,812 --> 01:29:52,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank if you cool, Ross, thank you for 1974 01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:57,412 Speaker 2: your expertise. Yeah. I mean, Tyler, it makes you angry. 1975 01:29:57,933 --> 01:29:59,732 Speaker 2: But at what point do you become a vigilante? Is 1976 01:29:59,732 --> 01:30:02,452 Speaker 2: that what you're saying? Yeah, so there's three And then 1977 01:30:02,532 --> 01:30:04,973 Speaker 2: suddenly Tyler becomes full batman and goes, I don't care 1978 01:30:05,013 --> 01:30:07,133 Speaker 2: what happens. I've got the right away. I'm coming through 1979 01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:07,572 Speaker 2: at pace. 1980 01:30:07,772 --> 01:30:10,412 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly it. And then it becomes who DearS win? 1981 01:30:10,492 --> 01:30:11,732 Speaker 4: So I start off saying I'm going to be a 1982 01:30:11,772 --> 01:30:14,053 Speaker 4: good citizen here, and you know, come on, through, even 1983 01:30:14,093 --> 01:30:16,053 Speaker 4: though you should have given the given way to me, 1984 01:30:16,213 --> 01:30:18,412 Speaker 4: come on through. And then there comes a point where 1985 01:30:18,452 --> 01:30:20,372 Speaker 4: then I start feeling like these people are walking over 1986 01:30:20,452 --> 01:30:22,652 Speaker 4: me now, so I'm going to turn and mister. 1987 01:30:22,572 --> 01:30:25,253 Speaker 2: Vitel, for that last person that takes advantage. They might 1988 01:30:25,293 --> 01:30:26,973 Speaker 2: not know how many other people have gone past. They 1989 01:30:27,093 --> 01:30:28,893 Speaker 2: just having to be the fifth person. That's just to 1990 01:30:28,933 --> 01:30:31,572 Speaker 2: be in a little bit cheeky. And then Tyler goes 1991 01:30:31,732 --> 01:30:36,293 Speaker 2: full batmobile and drives over your car. What about buses 1992 01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:38,532 Speaker 2: pulling out because I always let busses pull out, Yeah, 1993 01:30:38,532 --> 01:30:40,692 Speaker 2: one d percent always let them out, pull out, definitely, 1994 01:30:40,812 --> 01:30:42,893 Speaker 2: and nearly all of them give me the you know, 1995 01:30:42,973 --> 01:30:44,732 Speaker 2: the flashing emergency lights of thank you. 1996 01:30:44,893 --> 01:30:46,772 Speaker 4: And aren't they good on doing that? That's why you 1997 01:30:46,853 --> 01:30:48,572 Speaker 4: let them out because they're always so courteous. 1998 01:30:48,572 --> 01:30:50,572 Speaker 3: They always give the wee hazard light flash. 1999 01:30:50,893 --> 01:30:51,492 Speaker 5: But I love that. 2000 01:30:51,772 --> 01:30:53,532 Speaker 2: But then every now and then one doesn't, so I 2001 01:30:53,692 --> 01:30:56,133 Speaker 2: just go full vigilante and just drive into the back 2002 01:30:56,173 --> 01:30:56,412 Speaker 2: of them. 2003 01:30:57,612 --> 01:30:59,852 Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is another to cool. 2004 01:31:00,093 --> 01:31:01,772 Speaker 3: It is twenty four past three. 2005 01:31:05,572 --> 01:31:08,293 Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons cool. 2006 01:31:09,853 --> 01:31:12,692 Speaker 3: On News Talks'd be twenty seven past three, So we 2007 01:31:12,812 --> 01:31:15,172 Speaker 3: talk about gray areas of the road rules. 2008 01:31:15,652 --> 01:31:17,572 Speaker 2: Driver a brand new Bentley and let the other driver 2009 01:31:17,692 --> 01:31:20,372 Speaker 2: decide if the lawyers can beat yours if there is 2010 01:31:20,412 --> 01:31:22,772 Speaker 2: a crash. I wonder if people with flash of cars 2011 01:31:24,572 --> 01:31:27,452 Speaker 2: are treated with more respect, you know, right through the 2012 01:31:27,572 --> 01:31:30,412 Speaker 2: punishing COVID lockdowns. I'd come into work every day and 2013 01:31:30,452 --> 01:31:34,213 Speaker 2: I'd park beside my Costkings vehicle at the time. I 2014 01:31:34,213 --> 01:31:37,333 Speaker 2: think it was a Rolls Royce Wraith Yep. Nice and 2015 01:31:37,973 --> 01:31:41,333 Speaker 2: there was just more pressure in the parking because you know, 2016 01:31:41,692 --> 01:31:42,333 Speaker 2: why did you do it? 2017 01:31:42,572 --> 01:31:42,692 Speaker 6: Well? 2018 01:31:42,732 --> 01:31:45,253 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, I was parking beside your car, Tyler, 2019 01:31:45,732 --> 01:31:49,012 Speaker 2: then scrape it up. No worries that that's what's happened 2020 01:31:49,013 --> 01:31:52,053 Speaker 2: to it. The truth comes down, now, wouldn't that. But 2021 01:31:52,333 --> 01:31:56,572 Speaker 2: it flows out when the car you're pulling up beside, 2022 01:31:56,692 --> 01:31:59,013 Speaker 2: or you know, you just think that the stakes are 2023 01:31:59,053 --> 01:32:01,412 Speaker 2: just a bit higher. Yeah, but do you think about that? 2024 01:32:01,652 --> 01:32:04,612 Speaker 4: Or I would argue that if a Bentley's coming towards me, 2025 01:32:04,692 --> 01:32:07,452 Speaker 4: I think, buggy, you you've got a Bentley. I'm not 2026 01:32:07,532 --> 01:32:09,572 Speaker 4: gonna I'm not going to yield to you, even if 2027 01:32:09,612 --> 01:32:11,093 Speaker 4: it cost me a fortune and bankrupts me. 2028 01:32:11,572 --> 01:32:16,812 Speaker 2: Well, Israel Adisagia. He drives a McLaren Yeah around Auckland. 2029 01:32:17,013 --> 01:32:18,372 Speaker 2: Very cool car, very cool. 2030 01:32:18,452 --> 01:32:18,652 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2031 01:32:18,692 --> 01:32:19,492 Speaker 3: I wouldn't hit that guy. 2032 01:32:19,492 --> 01:32:21,372 Speaker 2: I've seen him a few times because it would. 2033 01:32:21,173 --> 01:32:23,173 Speaker 3: Cost me money, just because that's quite a good fighter. 2034 01:32:23,213 --> 01:32:24,133 Speaker 2: That's a double threat, isn't it. 2035 01:32:24,293 --> 01:32:25,812 Speaker 3: That is a double threat. I don't want to be 2036 01:32:25,853 --> 01:32:26,812 Speaker 3: knocked out by that fellow. 2037 01:32:27,173 --> 01:32:30,412 Speaker 2: But you know, I've driven past him before and you're 2038 01:32:30,452 --> 01:32:32,412 Speaker 2: just a little bit more careful with a car that's 2039 01:32:32,452 --> 01:32:33,972 Speaker 2: worth three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 2040 01:32:34,053 --> 01:32:36,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, funny that, yeah, John, How are you. 2041 01:32:38,893 --> 01:32:38,973 Speaker 19: Hi? 2042 01:32:39,093 --> 01:32:39,333 Speaker 8: Guys? 2043 01:32:39,492 --> 01:32:39,652 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2044 01:32:39,732 --> 01:32:39,892 Speaker 6: Good. 2045 01:32:40,893 --> 01:32:44,412 Speaker 24: Just going back to that that giving way when cars 2046 01:32:44,412 --> 01:32:47,093 Speaker 24: are packed on either side of the road. I get 2047 01:32:47,133 --> 01:32:51,572 Speaker 24: infuriated because I drive home on two roads where cars 2048 01:32:51,612 --> 01:32:54,333 Speaker 24: are parked on either side. I live in Auckland, and 2049 01:32:54,452 --> 01:32:56,932 Speaker 24: that's crowded. Yeah, but there is no need for anyone 2050 01:32:57,013 --> 01:32:59,652 Speaker 24: to give way, right. There is plenty of room on 2051 01:32:59,692 --> 01:33:02,612 Speaker 24: the road, but people insist on driving with the middle 2052 01:33:02,652 --> 01:33:04,692 Speaker 24: of their bonnet down the center line, giving a two 2053 01:33:04,772 --> 01:33:07,372 Speaker 24: meter gap between the cars parked on the side of 2054 01:33:07,412 --> 01:33:07,732 Speaker 24: the road. 2055 01:33:07,853 --> 01:33:09,053 Speaker 7: And if people just. 2056 01:33:09,133 --> 01:33:13,013 Speaker 24: Had an awareness of space and had this, I don't know, 2057 01:33:13,973 --> 01:33:17,612 Speaker 24: you know, just how wide is your vehicle. How close 2058 01:33:17,652 --> 01:33:19,173 Speaker 24: can you get? You can do it when you park. 2059 01:33:19,412 --> 01:33:21,173 Speaker 24: You don't have to do that at fifty k's. You 2060 01:33:21,253 --> 01:33:23,812 Speaker 24: can do that thirty k's and it keeps everything moving. 2061 01:33:23,893 --> 01:33:26,972 Speaker 24: And I just just go, come on this room. There's 2062 01:33:27,013 --> 01:33:28,732 Speaker 24: plenty of room. You don't need to drive there. 2063 01:33:28,772 --> 01:33:29,973 Speaker 7: And that that drives me. 2064 01:33:30,093 --> 01:33:32,492 Speaker 2: Nuts, I think, right, John, I think I think a 2065 01:33:32,532 --> 01:33:35,333 Speaker 2: lot of the worst driving is overly timid driving. Yeah, 2066 01:33:36,412 --> 01:33:39,333 Speaker 2: like people people that don't really know so they sort 2067 01:33:39,372 --> 01:33:40,852 Speaker 2: of they sort of numpedy around. 2068 01:33:41,812 --> 01:33:48,012 Speaker 24: And look, that's in my vocabulary. Everyone's a numbty. I'm 2069 01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:50,092 Speaker 24: quite good at talking to the windscreen when I'm driving. 2070 01:33:51,173 --> 01:33:54,213 Speaker 24: Wind screen and I have quite a good conversation. Yeah, 2071 01:33:54,652 --> 01:33:58,692 Speaker 24: And you know, and also something else, I discovered that 2072 01:33:59,173 --> 01:34:01,812 Speaker 24: when we get in our cars, our personal space gets 2073 01:34:01,893 --> 01:34:04,612 Speaker 24: a whole lot bigger. Right, So we have our personal 2074 01:34:04,652 --> 01:34:06,572 Speaker 24: space we don't like people getting with and you know, 2075 01:34:06,572 --> 01:34:09,052 Speaker 24: when we're having a conversation, we probably say meter apart, 2076 01:34:09,372 --> 01:34:11,213 Speaker 24: and all of a sudden it gets bigger than around 2077 01:34:11,253 --> 01:34:14,732 Speaker 24: our car. And you know, and that's I think that's 2078 01:34:14,772 --> 01:34:17,053 Speaker 24: why we have a tendency to get angry on the road. 2079 01:34:17,333 --> 01:34:20,852 Speaker 24: We feel our personal space has been invited, invaded. But look, 2080 01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:23,973 Speaker 24: as I've got older, I let people. I let them go, 2081 01:34:24,532 --> 01:34:26,452 Speaker 24: and you know what, what goes around comes around. I 2082 01:34:26,492 --> 01:34:29,932 Speaker 24: really believe that, and people let me. But I've got 2083 01:34:29,973 --> 01:34:32,652 Speaker 24: a certain thing for people like you saying flash cars 2084 01:34:32,652 --> 01:34:34,532 Speaker 24: and that sort of thing. And I thought, I bet 2085 01:34:34,612 --> 01:34:37,492 Speaker 24: he won't let me in if it's a Toyota or Honda. 2086 01:34:37,532 --> 01:34:38,173 Speaker 7: They're going to let me. 2087 01:34:38,532 --> 01:34:41,013 Speaker 24: If it's a Porsche, I ain't getting in there. 2088 01:34:41,133 --> 01:34:41,612 Speaker 3: Every time. 2089 01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:45,933 Speaker 2: I think there's been a study that's showing that. I 2090 01:34:45,973 --> 01:34:48,612 Speaker 2: think I read a study at some point that that's 2091 01:34:48,612 --> 01:34:51,612 Speaker 2: showing that. But yeah, I'm with John. I let people 2092 01:34:52,013 --> 01:34:53,572 Speaker 2: pass because it's the right thing to do. 2093 01:34:54,093 --> 01:34:54,532 Speaker 6: And you don't. 2094 01:34:54,612 --> 01:34:56,732 Speaker 2: You don't need to expect thank you for it. You 2095 01:34:56,772 --> 01:34:59,612 Speaker 2: didn't do it for the for the wave. You know, 2096 01:35:00,013 --> 01:35:01,812 Speaker 2: you didn't do it that. And look, you don't know 2097 01:35:02,213 --> 01:35:04,652 Speaker 2: why they didn't wave. Maybe they don't have hands, you know, 2098 01:35:04,692 --> 01:35:07,652 Speaker 2: maybe they've only got one hand. I mean, I do 2099 01:35:07,772 --> 01:35:09,293 Speaker 2: do it for the way, but if they've got no hands, 2100 01:35:09,333 --> 01:35:10,932 Speaker 2: then I got you're furious at someone for the rest 2101 01:35:10,933 --> 01:35:12,452 Speaker 2: of the day because they didn't wave. 2102 01:35:12,612 --> 01:35:15,052 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they might have not had heads turns. 2103 01:35:14,893 --> 01:35:16,572 Speaker 2: Out on turns out the dude only had one hand. 2104 01:35:16,732 --> 01:35:17,333 Speaker 2: We couldn't wave. 2105 01:35:17,532 --> 01:35:19,572 Speaker 4: I feel really bad now, all right, we've got the 2106 01:35:19,652 --> 01:35:21,812 Speaker 4: headlines coming up. Then we're taking more of your calls 2107 01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:24,452 Speaker 4: on gray areas of our road rules if you want 2108 01:35:24,452 --> 01:35:26,372 Speaker 4: to send a tax ninety two nine two. But headlines 2109 01:35:26,412 --> 01:35:27,213 Speaker 4: with Susie coming up. 2110 01:35:27,532 --> 01:35:29,692 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good from being even Carlos sins as 2111 01:35:29,772 --> 01:35:33,932 Speaker 2: trouble with spatial awareness just us Liam Lawson. Carlos, you've 2112 01:35:34,013 --> 01:35:37,532 Speaker 2: lost if you're listening. If you're listening, you've lost a 2113 01:35:37,572 --> 01:35:39,532 Speaker 2: lot of respect from me with your winging and blaming 2114 01:35:39,612 --> 01:35:43,412 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson for that. All right, be better, Yeah, be better, Carlos. 2115 01:35:45,612 --> 01:35:48,612 Speaker 5: You talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis. 2116 01:35:48,652 --> 01:35:52,013 Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Senior Labor MP 2117 01:35:52,173 --> 01:35:55,772 Speaker 14: Willie Jackson says the party is for everyone after what 2118 01:35:55,973 --> 01:35:59,092 Speaker 14: he agreed was a racist attack from a Tea party. 2119 01:35:59,173 --> 01:36:03,092 Speaker 14: Multi MP Tackle tar Ferris posted a photo on social 2120 01:36:03,213 --> 01:36:08,452 Speaker 14: media of labor volunteers of different ethnicities sign waving the 2121 01:36:08,532 --> 01:36:12,213 Speaker 14: Tamaki Mikado by election, saying they are campaigning to take 2122 01:36:12,253 --> 01:36:16,892 Speaker 14: a Maori seat from Maldi. ACC's leadership is acknowledging it's 2123 01:36:16,973 --> 01:36:20,812 Speaker 14: fall and short for staff following a workplace culture review. 2124 01:36:21,333 --> 01:36:24,572 Speaker 14: Its findings from staff interviews found a lack of past 2125 01:36:24,612 --> 01:36:30,173 Speaker 14: accountability and low trust trust in internal complaints processes. Fire 2126 01:36:30,293 --> 01:36:34,532 Speaker 14: Doors at two of the country's largest construction projects are 2127 01:36:34,612 --> 01:36:38,732 Speaker 14: being tested for asbestos. Fletcher Building is testing fire doors 2128 01:36:38,772 --> 01:36:43,092 Speaker 14: at Auckland's yet to open International Convention Center, and christ 2129 01:36:43,253 --> 01:36:46,652 Speaker 14: Urt City Council is doing the same at Kakaha Stadium. 2130 01:36:47,173 --> 01:36:51,132 Speaker 14: Police are appealing for witnesses of a serious crash in Wonica. 2131 01:36:51,612 --> 01:36:55,253 Speaker 14: Emergency services were called to the collision on Cardrona Valley 2132 01:36:55,333 --> 01:36:59,572 Speaker 14: Road about four pm yesterday. Alis Soper on why early 2133 01:36:59,732 --> 01:37:03,333 Speaker 14: jitters don't spell doom for the black Ferns can see 2134 01:37:03,372 --> 01:37:03,932 Speaker 14: her full. 2135 01:37:03,812 --> 01:37:05,372 Speaker 2: Column at Nziedhral Premium. 2136 01:37:05,812 --> 01:37:07,253 Speaker 14: Now back to Matt and Tyler. 2137 01:37:07,532 --> 01:37:09,932 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Susie. We're talking about great areas 2138 01:37:10,053 --> 01:37:13,572 Speaker 4: of the row rule, and so many ticks are coming through. 2139 01:37:13,652 --> 01:37:15,052 Speaker 4: On nine two ninety two. 2140 01:37:15,692 --> 01:37:19,852 Speaker 2: Absolute anti success rhetoric. I drive a twenty twenty four 2141 01:37:19,933 --> 01:37:22,732 Speaker 2: Aston Martin DBX, nice and I drive in a very 2142 01:37:22,812 --> 01:37:26,293 Speaker 2: friendly manner, says The stixer is the DBX. It's sort 2143 01:37:26,333 --> 01:37:30,013 Speaker 2: of a a look at that. Yeah, the DBX, how 2144 01:37:30,013 --> 01:37:31,532 Speaker 2: would you describe it? It kind of looks like a 2145 01:37:31,612 --> 01:37:34,652 Speaker 2: super flash forward focus but large. 2146 01:37:34,933 --> 01:37:39,372 Speaker 4: Yeah, low to the ground slug, Yeah yeah, good, good 2147 01:37:39,372 --> 01:37:41,732 Speaker 4: on you. Yeah, well done that driver, Well done. 2148 01:37:41,853 --> 01:37:42,173 Speaker 23: Here you go. 2149 01:37:42,692 --> 01:37:44,253 Speaker 3: I want to have a drive one of these beer boys. 2150 01:37:44,293 --> 01:37:47,372 Speaker 2: Now, I'd like to get a Eston muttin dB twelve. 2151 01:37:48,133 --> 01:37:51,293 Speaker 2: The dB twelve, it's being of batmobiles. Get that in black. 2152 01:37:51,412 --> 01:37:53,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh Jesus, that's sexy. 2153 01:37:53,973 --> 01:37:57,053 Speaker 2: In fact, I've said to my kids that that's how 2154 01:37:57,093 --> 01:37:59,253 Speaker 2: they need to repay me back for bringing me up, 2155 01:37:59,372 --> 01:38:00,173 Speaker 2: is to be successful. 2156 01:38:00,572 --> 01:38:00,972 Speaker 6: And then. 2157 01:38:02,652 --> 01:38:04,133 Speaker 2: That's what yami kids, Eston Martin. 2158 01:38:04,173 --> 01:38:05,973 Speaker 4: I'm just having a look at a couple on trade me. 2159 01:38:06,133 --> 01:38:08,052 Speaker 4: So there's one going for four hundred and fifteen thousand 2160 01:38:08,093 --> 01:38:09,732 Speaker 4: dollars on this one. 2161 01:38:09,812 --> 01:38:12,652 Speaker 2: This one's a good deal. Four hundred ninety eight thousand dollars. Yeah, 2162 01:38:12,692 --> 01:38:14,213 Speaker 2: there you go. We'll put a bit. 2163 01:38:14,213 --> 01:38:14,492 Speaker 6: In for you. 2164 01:38:15,253 --> 01:38:18,452 Speaker 2: Sacrifices as I sacrifices I've made for my kids. At 2165 01:38:18,532 --> 01:38:22,053 Speaker 2: least they could do exactly one of them's eighteen. I 2166 01:38:22,173 --> 01:38:23,292 Speaker 2: expect that BOS twenty. 2167 01:38:23,093 --> 01:38:25,333 Speaker 4: First spoken, Well, all right, one hundred and eighty ten 2168 01:38:25,372 --> 01:38:26,572 Speaker 4: eighty to number a call, get. 2169 01:38:26,452 --> 01:38:29,932 Speaker 7: A pool, Good a fellows, how are. 2170 01:38:29,933 --> 01:38:32,053 Speaker 3: You very good? What's your gray area that you think 2171 01:38:32,053 --> 01:38:32,892 Speaker 3: people should know about. 2172 01:38:34,093 --> 01:38:37,732 Speaker 20: Oh mate, this one's a river, So you can't pick 2173 01:38:37,812 --> 01:38:40,053 Speaker 20: up your phone when you're driving and talk on it. Right, 2174 01:38:43,053 --> 01:38:45,572 Speaker 20: But if you've got to breathallize interlocker in your vehicle 2175 01:38:45,612 --> 01:38:48,253 Speaker 20: that goes off every ten minutes when you're driving, you've 2176 01:38:48,293 --> 01:38:49,652 Speaker 20: got to pick that up and blowing it. 2177 01:38:51,452 --> 01:38:54,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that'd be interesting. Can you be pinged for 2178 01:38:54,253 --> 01:38:57,333 Speaker 2: blowing and your breathalyzer? It's a good point. There is 2179 01:38:57,372 --> 01:38:59,333 Speaker 2: a distraction. How often does that go off, Paul? 2180 01:38:59,572 --> 01:39:00,293 Speaker 5: Did you say. 2181 01:39:01,973 --> 01:39:02,932 Speaker 15: Every ten minutes? 2182 01:39:03,213 --> 01:39:06,013 Speaker 19: Really from a friend's point of view, Yeah, I. 2183 01:39:06,133 --> 01:39:08,572 Speaker 2: Thought they were just for startup, but is that in 2184 01:39:08,652 --> 01:39:10,932 Speaker 2: this case you start slamming a bottle of vodka while 2185 01:39:10,933 --> 01:39:11,852 Speaker 2: you're driving along the road. 2186 01:39:13,053 --> 01:39:16,053 Speaker 20: Well, as you mentioned earlier on, it's it's okay to 2187 01:39:16,133 --> 01:39:19,253 Speaker 20: grab a grab a road as such and get on 2188 01:39:19,372 --> 01:39:21,772 Speaker 20: with it, but not when you've got one of these on. 2189 01:39:21,933 --> 01:39:23,053 Speaker 10: No, so you've got to. 2190 01:39:23,053 --> 01:39:25,972 Speaker 20: Blow to start your vehicle. Yeah, and then it goes 2191 01:39:26,013 --> 01:39:30,492 Speaker 20: off around every ten minutes. Yeah, and you've got to 2192 01:39:30,532 --> 01:39:33,732 Speaker 20: keep blowing it and be clear otherwise your toast and 2193 01:39:33,812 --> 01:39:37,412 Speaker 20: it's another ninety bucks to unlock it, and then you 2194 01:39:37,572 --> 01:39:40,132 Speaker 20: are interlock time starts from scratch. 2195 01:39:40,652 --> 01:39:43,772 Speaker 2: Wow, so you're add and talking on a banana at 2196 01:39:43,772 --> 01:39:45,532 Speaker 2: the same time, and things get very great. 2197 01:39:45,973 --> 01:39:48,133 Speaker 3: That's a straight tasering holding. 2198 01:39:47,853 --> 01:39:49,452 Speaker 2: A banana to your ear and pretending to talk into 2199 01:39:49,452 --> 01:39:51,692 Speaker 2: a phone. And someone who said just before that's an 2200 01:39:51,692 --> 01:39:53,852 Speaker 2: interesting one. Thanks to you, call Paul. So what happens? 2201 01:39:53,893 --> 01:39:55,492 Speaker 2: It must watch? Does it give you a countdown? 2202 01:39:56,053 --> 01:39:58,133 Speaker 4: You've got twenty seconds to blow into this or else 2203 01:39:58,133 --> 01:39:59,293 Speaker 4: we're going to shut your vehicle down. 2204 01:40:00,732 --> 01:40:02,612 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I said, someone saying that's the girls version 2205 01:40:02,652 --> 01:40:04,293 Speaker 2: of the Eston Martin that the guy, So that guy's 2206 01:40:04,372 --> 01:40:07,812 Speaker 2: rung in and said he was driving that anyway. 2207 01:40:08,333 --> 01:40:10,652 Speaker 3: Currently my costin drives a DBX as well, So maybe 2208 01:40:10,853 --> 01:40:11,972 Speaker 3: that was that a text from Mike? 2209 01:40:12,093 --> 01:40:12,213 Speaker 8: Was it? 2210 01:40:12,652 --> 01:40:12,932 Speaker 2: Maybe? 2211 01:40:13,173 --> 01:40:13,372 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2212 01:40:13,612 --> 01:40:15,173 Speaker 2: Would he be courteous on the road. I think he'd 2213 01:40:15,213 --> 01:40:17,973 Speaker 2: be pretty courteous on the road. Yeah, I don't know. 2214 01:40:18,133 --> 01:40:21,852 Speaker 2: You park next to him? Yeah, I've never seen him 2215 01:40:22,093 --> 01:40:24,572 Speaker 2: be uncurteous, but he's a good driver. He's in before 2216 01:40:24,612 --> 01:40:27,492 Speaker 2: I arrive and out seconds after a show, so I 2217 01:40:27,532 --> 01:40:28,652 Speaker 2: don't really see him on the roads. 2218 01:40:29,492 --> 01:40:31,572 Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 2219 01:40:31,652 --> 01:40:33,812 Speaker 4: Nine two ninety two is the text number. What are 2220 01:40:33,812 --> 01:40:37,532 Speaker 4: the great areas of the road rules? This one here 2221 01:40:37,612 --> 01:40:40,692 Speaker 4: is interesting. What is it worth Ford Ranger drivers? Is 2222 01:40:40,772 --> 01:40:42,772 Speaker 4: there a sticker on the sun visor telling them they 2223 01:40:42,772 --> 01:40:45,372 Speaker 4: don't have to give way when the ad comes on 2224 01:40:45,452 --> 01:40:48,013 Speaker 4: the telly with the guy saying ranger every time they 2225 01:40:48,093 --> 01:40:50,852 Speaker 4: see one. I substitute it with a word that rhymes 2226 01:40:50,933 --> 01:40:52,692 Speaker 4: with bankers. Seems appropriate from Henry. 2227 01:40:52,812 --> 01:40:54,173 Speaker 2: See, I've got a theory in this because we hear 2228 01:40:54,213 --> 01:40:56,652 Speaker 2: a lot about anti a lot of anti Ford Ranger 2229 01:40:56,732 --> 01:40:59,093 Speaker 2: rhetoric these days. But I think it's just because it's 2230 01:40:59,173 --> 01:41:00,932 Speaker 2: been the number one car for so long. I don't 2231 01:41:00,933 --> 01:41:02,572 Speaker 2: know if it still is, but so long, there's so 2232 01:41:02,732 --> 01:41:07,492 Speaker 2: many Ford Rangers on the road that just by pure 2233 01:41:07,612 --> 01:41:11,412 Speaker 2: I mean it'sartistic anomy. They're involved in more dicky to behavior. Yeah, 2234 01:41:11,772 --> 01:41:13,412 Speaker 2: just because you see so many of them there everywhere, 2235 01:41:13,692 --> 01:41:17,732 Speaker 2: the head ratio, I mean, the ranger, ad ranger, rang, rang, Rangel, 2236 01:41:17,812 --> 01:41:20,053 Speaker 2: they're everywhere. It's pure mathematics, though, isn't it. 2237 01:41:20,133 --> 01:41:21,652 Speaker 4: Because there's a number of dick kids on the road 2238 01:41:21,853 --> 01:41:23,532 Speaker 4: and there's a lot of ranges, so that it would 2239 01:41:23,532 --> 01:41:25,652 Speaker 4: equate to there's going to be some dickids driving ranges. 2240 01:41:25,812 --> 01:41:27,973 Speaker 2: You guys, are wrong, says amb But I drive a 2241 01:41:28,053 --> 01:41:30,652 Speaker 2: range driver and always give way to others or merge 2242 01:41:30,692 --> 01:41:32,452 Speaker 2: like a zip. I do agree with the current caller 2243 01:41:32,492 --> 01:41:35,492 Speaker 2: about people giving way unnecessarily on two way roads. It's 2244 01:41:35,532 --> 01:41:38,732 Speaker 2: a problem I love in christ Church and a lot 2245 01:41:38,732 --> 01:41:40,612 Speaker 2: of people seem to lack spatial awareness. 2246 01:41:40,732 --> 01:41:43,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough to beautiful cars, range rovers oh e 2247 01:41:43,093 --> 01:41:44,852 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number to 2248 01:41:44,893 --> 01:41:46,492 Speaker 4: call coming up. There seems to be a lot of 2249 01:41:46,532 --> 01:41:49,253 Speaker 4: heat for the way that contabrians are driving. There's another 2250 01:41:49,333 --> 01:41:51,772 Speaker 4: text here that really lays into christ Church drivers, so 2251 01:41:51,812 --> 01:41:54,372 Speaker 4: we'll get to that next. It is twenty to four. 2252 01:41:54,572 --> 01:41:58,772 Speaker 2: Ah christ Chitch drivers the angriest drivers in New Zealand. 2253 01:41:58,853 --> 01:42:00,852 Speaker 2: Do I seem like an angry driver to year? 2254 01:42:00,933 --> 01:42:01,093 Speaker 8: Yes? 2255 01:42:01,133 --> 01:42:03,692 Speaker 2: You do well then yes, but in my life and 2256 01:42:03,893 --> 01:42:06,572 Speaker 2: look this is this is sort of just anecdotal, but 2257 01:42:07,013 --> 01:42:11,412 Speaker 2: the two biggest road range cidents of been and the 2258 01:42:11,452 --> 01:42:13,372 Speaker 2: receiving end on have both been in christ Church. We 2259 01:42:13,492 --> 01:42:14,492 Speaker 2: just don't like to muck around. 2260 01:42:16,772 --> 01:42:20,333 Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred 2261 01:42:20,333 --> 01:42:22,892 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Taylor Adams 2262 01:42:23,053 --> 01:42:24,452 Speaker 1: Afternoons News talks. 2263 01:42:24,652 --> 01:42:26,972 Speaker 4: Be very good afternoon to you. We are talking about 2264 01:42:26,973 --> 01:42:30,572 Speaker 4: the gray areas of the road rules. Oh eight hundred 2265 01:42:30,612 --> 01:42:33,253 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call now, menship before. 2266 01:42:33,253 --> 01:42:35,812 Speaker 4: There's been so many tips coming through there. There's quite 2267 01:42:35,853 --> 01:42:39,772 Speaker 4: a bit of pushback on the way that contabrians drive here. 2268 01:42:39,853 --> 01:42:42,772 Speaker 4: It is drivers that don't merge like a zip, guys, 2269 01:42:42,893 --> 01:42:45,492 Speaker 4: I e go one for one. At the most infuriating 2270 01:42:45,572 --> 01:42:50,173 Speaker 4: to me, christ chitch drivers are absolutely appalling. It is 2271 01:42:50,213 --> 01:42:52,572 Speaker 4: actually the law that you're meant to merge like a zip. 2272 01:42:53,692 --> 01:42:55,933 Speaker 4: Some people treat it as a suggestion. Look forward to 2273 01:42:56,053 --> 01:42:59,612 Speaker 4: hearing your thoughts. Yes, christ chitch drivers are some of 2274 01:42:59,612 --> 01:43:00,452 Speaker 4: the worst in the country. 2275 01:43:00,452 --> 01:43:01,092 Speaker 2: From Nick. 2276 01:43:03,253 --> 01:43:06,972 Speaker 3: Nick Nick nickou doesn't say, just says thanks from Nick 2277 01:43:07,213 --> 01:43:09,612 Speaker 3: Nick from christ Church. Yeah, isn't there a quite a 2278 01:43:09,612 --> 01:43:10,732 Speaker 3: well known nick from christ Church? 2279 01:43:11,013 --> 01:43:11,492 Speaker 2: I think so? 2280 01:43:11,812 --> 01:43:14,492 Speaker 3: Yeah, this one here is a good one. 2281 01:43:14,532 --> 01:43:16,492 Speaker 2: The biggest thing that frustrates me is when people stop 2282 01:43:16,572 --> 01:43:18,372 Speaker 2: in the middle of the road to let another car 2283 01:43:18,532 --> 01:43:21,293 Speaker 2: out when there's nothing behind them at all. 2284 01:43:21,812 --> 01:43:21,972 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2285 01:43:22,053 --> 01:43:24,013 Speaker 2: That's a weird one, isn't it. There's also this thing 2286 01:43:24,093 --> 01:43:25,652 Speaker 2: that happens on the roads that kind of bugs me 2287 01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:28,532 Speaker 2: when people be overly friendly to the point where it's confusing. 2288 01:43:28,812 --> 01:43:31,013 Speaker 2: They've got absolute right of way and they signal you 2289 01:43:31,133 --> 01:43:33,852 Speaker 2: to go, and you're like, no, this is confusing because 2290 01:43:33,853 --> 01:43:35,213 Speaker 2: I know that you've got right of way, so I 2291 01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:37,053 Speaker 2: can't really go, and you end up in this kind 2292 01:43:37,053 --> 01:43:40,852 Speaker 2: of jettery standoff and then you're both signaling to each other. 2293 01:43:41,213 --> 01:43:44,012 Speaker 2: And it's often someone that doesn't know the rules around 2294 01:43:44,253 --> 01:43:47,372 Speaker 2: stop signs and give way signs, and they're like, oh, 2295 01:43:47,492 --> 01:43:49,213 Speaker 2: you just go, and you're like, no, but I can't. 2296 01:43:49,652 --> 01:43:51,492 Speaker 2: I can't pull out because you might just remember it 2297 01:43:51,612 --> 01:43:53,772 Speaker 2: last minute the road rules and pull out exactly. So 2298 01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:56,333 Speaker 2: sometimes it's good just to stick to the rules as 2299 01:43:56,492 --> 01:43:57,132 Speaker 2: they are. 2300 01:43:57,253 --> 01:43:59,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, because what do they say, be predictable, not polite, 2301 01:43:59,812 --> 01:44:01,492 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of truth to that on our roads. 2302 01:44:02,213 --> 01:44:03,093 Speaker 2: Joe, how are you? 2303 01:44:04,173 --> 01:44:05,133 Speaker 22: Hey, you guys, how's it going? 2304 01:44:05,652 --> 01:44:07,213 Speaker 2: Very good? What's your gray area? 2305 01:44:08,692 --> 01:44:12,772 Speaker 22: My great area is just before you get onto the motorway, 2306 01:44:12,853 --> 01:44:15,772 Speaker 22: there's like them two to three four lanes sometimes, but 2307 01:44:16,213 --> 01:44:18,213 Speaker 22: there are those traffic lights that they have, but the 2308 01:44:18,333 --> 01:44:21,933 Speaker 22: sign seeds one vehicle peer green each lane, So we 2309 01:44:22,013 --> 01:44:25,213 Speaker 22: all understand that green light things go belight, you need stop. 2310 01:44:25,452 --> 01:44:29,053 Speaker 22: But due to the sign. I'm for one. I've got 2311 01:44:29,053 --> 01:44:31,253 Speaker 22: it on the fence because the sign seeds one vehicle 2312 01:44:31,253 --> 01:44:35,293 Speaker 22: called pere green each lane, and sometimes there's like five lights. 2313 01:44:36,093 --> 01:44:38,692 Speaker 22: So does that mean five cars for each lane can 2314 01:44:38,772 --> 01:44:39,932 Speaker 22: go on the green signal? 2315 01:44:40,412 --> 01:44:43,492 Speaker 4: Or I've always read it as one for one because 2316 01:44:43,492 --> 01:44:45,772 Speaker 4: the old green light going onto the motorway doesn't stay 2317 01:44:45,933 --> 01:44:46,692 Speaker 4: green for long. 2318 01:44:46,772 --> 01:44:47,572 Speaker 2: But I get your points. 2319 01:44:47,572 --> 01:44:49,692 Speaker 4: There's a lot of people just try and squeeze two 2320 01:44:49,772 --> 01:44:54,333 Speaker 4: cars through or three cars through. And I would never 2321 01:44:54,412 --> 01:44:57,812 Speaker 4: do that myself, but I'm not gonna get angry at 2322 01:44:57,853 --> 01:44:59,452 Speaker 4: somebody that does that, you know what I mean. If 2323 01:44:59,492 --> 01:45:02,133 Speaker 4: they want to sneak through and they're not causing any 2324 01:45:02,412 --> 01:45:05,213 Speaker 4: any you know, craziness on the road, go for it. 2325 01:45:06,333 --> 01:45:09,053 Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm all for it. But yeah, they know a 2326 01:45:09,093 --> 01:45:11,973 Speaker 22: few people. There's few people with the odd finger, you 2327 01:45:12,053 --> 01:45:12,852 Speaker 22: know when from one. 2328 01:45:15,893 --> 01:45:17,612 Speaker 13: So yeah, yeah, it. 2329 01:45:17,692 --> 01:45:20,253 Speaker 4: Does confuse a lot of people, the old green light 2330 01:45:20,333 --> 01:45:22,852 Speaker 4: going into the motorway. Yeah, but doesn't it normally say 2331 01:45:23,093 --> 01:45:24,372 Speaker 4: one one at a time? 2332 01:45:24,692 --> 01:45:24,852 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2333 01:45:24,973 --> 01:45:26,892 Speaker 4: I thought it was one per lane. So you got 2334 01:45:26,933 --> 01:45:29,932 Speaker 4: two lanes going into it, you've got the two green lights. Yeah, yeah, 2335 01:45:29,973 --> 01:45:31,093 Speaker 4: so it's one per lane, isn't it. 2336 01:45:31,692 --> 01:45:31,852 Speaker 17: Yeah? 2337 01:45:31,893 --> 01:45:34,293 Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, that's how I was taking it. 2338 01:45:34,333 --> 01:45:35,852 Speaker 2: Maybe I've been breaking the law all the time. I 2339 01:45:35,893 --> 01:45:37,253 Speaker 2: mean the idea is just to break it up so 2340 01:45:37,333 --> 01:45:39,253 Speaker 2: there's there's gaps in the traffic, right, yes. 2341 01:45:39,213 --> 01:45:42,333 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Oh eight hundred and eighteen eighty is the 2342 01:45:42,492 --> 01:45:44,572 Speaker 4: number to call Mac. 2343 01:45:45,692 --> 01:45:46,053 Speaker 2: How are you? 2344 01:45:46,213 --> 01:45:46,372 Speaker 20: Yeah? 2345 01:45:46,452 --> 01:45:51,972 Speaker 8: Good? Matt and Tyler. Interesting topic. I'd have to ask 2346 01:45:52,053 --> 01:45:56,093 Speaker 8: you both, where does common sense coming to everything you've said? 2347 01:45:56,612 --> 01:45:59,652 Speaker 8: And I don't have to say that's seriously lacking. If 2348 01:45:59,732 --> 01:46:03,732 Speaker 8: you're going down a narrow road or up a narrow road, 2349 01:46:04,612 --> 01:46:06,772 Speaker 8: then you have to be aware of the vehicle coming 2350 01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:11,812 Speaker 8: towards you, and surely, goodness you would have a common 2351 01:46:11,893 --> 01:46:14,892 Speaker 8: sense to take a ways of action to get out 2352 01:46:14,933 --> 01:46:17,053 Speaker 8: of the way of that vehicle to allow to come 2353 01:46:17,133 --> 01:46:21,933 Speaker 8: down if you through. And this is probably one of 2354 01:46:21,973 --> 01:46:24,532 Speaker 8: the biggest problems we have at the moment in New Zealand. 2355 01:46:25,612 --> 01:46:29,053 Speaker 8: Everyone wants to have their own right away. Well, you know, 2356 01:46:29,333 --> 01:46:32,532 Speaker 8: it's Life's not like that. You have to look at 2357 01:46:32,572 --> 01:46:37,812 Speaker 8: the situation assess where can you let well, what can 2358 01:46:37,893 --> 01:46:43,532 Speaker 8: you do in a single lane situation or type parking 2359 01:46:43,652 --> 01:46:45,652 Speaker 8: situation and let someone go through? 2360 01:46:46,893 --> 01:46:47,093 Speaker 6: You know? 2361 01:46:47,492 --> 01:46:47,852 Speaker 10: It just. 2362 01:46:49,973 --> 01:46:53,053 Speaker 8: I think it's one of those things that we all 2363 01:46:53,173 --> 01:46:56,732 Speaker 8: need to take on board. Take a deep breath and 2364 01:46:57,293 --> 01:46:58,412 Speaker 8: just let things happen. 2365 01:46:58,812 --> 01:47:01,133 Speaker 2: Good on your mac. I guess that said. I guess 2366 01:47:01,173 --> 01:47:03,652 Speaker 2: that's why we're talking about it. Yeah, that's what do 2367 01:47:03,732 --> 01:47:05,772 Speaker 2: you do in that situation. I'm a person that tends 2368 01:47:05,812 --> 01:47:08,293 Speaker 2: to let people through, yep. But then what happens if 2369 01:47:08,412 --> 01:47:11,213 Speaker 2: you've got your pregnant partner in your car exactly and 2370 01:47:11,293 --> 01:47:13,612 Speaker 2: then you're just trying to drive the Friendly Way and 2371 01:47:13,692 --> 01:47:18,173 Speaker 2: you're letting five of Tyler's numpties through and you have 2372 01:47:18,253 --> 01:47:20,173 Speaker 2: to you have to force the issue. Yeah, you have 2373 01:47:20,253 --> 01:47:22,173 Speaker 2: to go, well, look, I need to get through here. 2374 01:47:22,732 --> 01:47:24,812 Speaker 2: I can't. It's not the day to drive the Friendly Way. 2375 01:47:25,013 --> 01:47:25,213 Speaker 13: Yep. 2376 01:47:25,372 --> 01:47:26,812 Speaker 2: I get I go to get this. I've got to 2377 01:47:26,812 --> 01:47:28,652 Speaker 2: get this person to the hospital. I've gotta get I 2378 01:47:28,772 --> 01:47:29,972 Speaker 2: gotta get my message to the hospital. 2379 01:47:30,013 --> 01:47:32,093 Speaker 4: So you have this baby, I gotta got to get 2380 01:47:32,133 --> 01:47:34,652 Speaker 4: on the horn and get aggressive. Thank you very much 2381 01:47:34,812 --> 01:47:35,213 Speaker 4: for that. 2382 01:47:35,452 --> 01:47:37,692 Speaker 3: Will take one more call before we're going to place 2383 01:47:37,812 --> 01:47:38,573 Speaker 3: some messages. 2384 01:47:39,452 --> 01:47:41,572 Speaker 2: Andrew, how are you. 2385 01:47:44,253 --> 01:47:46,333 Speaker 11: I've got a good story from my wife, who used 2386 01:47:46,333 --> 01:47:49,333 Speaker 11: to be a driving instructive and now she's my office lady. 2387 01:47:50,893 --> 01:47:54,933 Speaker 11: She was at a interstinction where the main road was. 2388 01:47:55,692 --> 01:47:59,293 Speaker 11: She was being controlled by a sign or a giveaway sign, 2389 01:47:59,452 --> 01:48:03,053 Speaker 11: as was the opposite spacing traffic on the main road 2390 01:48:03,173 --> 01:48:06,053 Speaker 11: going straight through, which happens to have what they call 2391 01:48:06,133 --> 01:48:09,253 Speaker 11: a flushed median for riding down the middle of the 2392 01:48:09,333 --> 01:48:11,852 Speaker 11: road so they can send right into the side street 2393 01:48:11,893 --> 01:48:13,692 Speaker 11: that she was trying to pull out of. Well, her 2394 01:48:13,772 --> 01:48:19,412 Speaker 11: student was and there was no one turning right, but 2395 01:48:19,652 --> 01:48:23,812 Speaker 11: a police officer who was going straight through between these 2396 01:48:23,853 --> 01:48:28,612 Speaker 11: two opposing the ways of science, whichever they were, came 2397 01:48:28,652 --> 01:48:30,772 Speaker 11: to a complete stop and try to wave to her 2398 01:48:30,893 --> 01:48:35,772 Speaker 11: student in and just keeps telling your students, do not move, 2399 01:48:36,853 --> 01:48:40,892 Speaker 11: got on your wa you cannot take that gap because 2400 01:48:40,893 --> 01:48:44,772 Speaker 11: if you do that during your driver's test, you will 2401 01:48:44,812 --> 01:48:49,732 Speaker 11: be failed. And the cop just sat there forever, trying 2402 01:48:49,812 --> 01:48:52,852 Speaker 11: to think he was being courteous, trying to wave this 2403 01:48:53,053 --> 01:48:54,733 Speaker 11: young kid into the fluid. 2404 01:48:55,933 --> 01:48:59,412 Speaker 19: Was not interesting traffic. And my wife's like, I think 2405 01:48:59,452 --> 01:49:01,013 Speaker 19: she had brake pedals as well. I think she just 2406 01:49:01,093 --> 01:49:04,932 Speaker 19: kept we are not going. 2407 01:49:05,492 --> 01:49:09,852 Speaker 2: Where where have those driving car has gone? That used 2408 01:49:09,853 --> 01:49:10,852 Speaker 2: to have two steering wheels? 2409 01:49:11,772 --> 01:49:14,092 Speaker 19: That, yeah, I don't think they've ever I don't remember 2410 01:49:14,173 --> 01:49:15,133 Speaker 19: ever seeing those here. 2411 01:49:15,213 --> 01:49:17,052 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm on TV. 2412 01:49:17,532 --> 01:49:21,932 Speaker 19: Pedals engineered by a specialist up the line and they 2413 01:49:22,013 --> 01:49:25,093 Speaker 19: were incredible, whereas the first step her son, who was 2414 01:49:25,133 --> 01:49:28,972 Speaker 19: a mechanic, installed those here that she imported from the UK. 2415 01:49:29,173 --> 01:49:32,253 Speaker 2: But I could, God, if I was a driving instructor 2416 01:49:32,293 --> 01:49:34,892 Speaker 2: road what those pedals says for sure. Hey, I've got 2417 01:49:34,933 --> 01:49:36,932 Speaker 2: a question for you, Andrew. You said she was your 2418 01:49:37,013 --> 01:49:42,572 Speaker 2: driving instructor, and now she's okay, right right? I thought 2419 01:49:42,612 --> 01:49:45,293 Speaker 2: I thought, I thought love love might have happened behind 2420 01:49:45,372 --> 01:49:46,813 Speaker 2: the learner. 2421 01:49:48,213 --> 01:49:49,973 Speaker 19: On the road and it was off the road, so 2422 01:49:50,133 --> 01:49:51,972 Speaker 19: she just started focusing on my business. 2423 01:49:52,372 --> 01:49:54,612 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that is I mean, even if a 2424 01:49:54,692 --> 01:49:56,973 Speaker 4: police officer does that, Andrew and goes back to be 2425 01:49:57,093 --> 01:49:59,852 Speaker 4: predictable not polite. The old cop was a lovely cop 2426 01:49:59,893 --> 01:50:01,253 Speaker 4: by the sounds of it, and said, this is a 2427 01:50:01,333 --> 01:50:02,973 Speaker 4: new driver. I'll just stop in the middle of the 2428 01:50:03,053 --> 01:50:03,892 Speaker 4: road and let them through. 2429 01:50:04,213 --> 01:50:05,892 Speaker 2: But no, I don't do that. But that's a good 2430 01:50:05,933 --> 01:50:07,412 Speaker 2: one that you just said that. I've never heard that 2431 01:50:07,452 --> 01:50:10,053 Speaker 2: same before. Be predicted, not polite. That's the thing I 2432 01:50:10,133 --> 01:50:12,173 Speaker 2: was talking about before. It's so annoying when someone's being 2433 01:50:12,333 --> 01:50:15,052 Speaker 2: overly polite, but you know that they're in the wrong 2434 01:50:15,213 --> 01:50:17,213 Speaker 2: and the system would work if they just followed the 2435 01:50:17,293 --> 01:50:19,412 Speaker 2: rules and we could all just do it. Yeah, but 2436 01:50:19,532 --> 01:50:21,572 Speaker 2: you're sitting there and there going come through, and it's 2437 01:50:21,612 --> 01:50:23,492 Speaker 2: like I'm not you know, I'm on a stop. You're 2438 01:50:23,532 --> 01:50:24,333 Speaker 2: on a good way go. 2439 01:50:24,572 --> 01:50:26,452 Speaker 4: And you can't get that angry because they've been so 2440 01:50:26,732 --> 01:50:29,412 Speaker 4: nice about it. But just do the right thing, do 2441 01:50:29,572 --> 01:50:32,053 Speaker 4: what you're meant to do on the road instead of 2442 01:50:32,093 --> 01:50:34,612 Speaker 4: being so bloody courteous. Catch is a weird thing to say. 2443 01:50:34,772 --> 01:50:38,452 Speaker 2: You can't be flashing the middle finger around for someone 2444 01:50:38,532 --> 01:50:40,692 Speaker 2: that's just being overly curtis exactly courteous. 2445 01:50:41,173 --> 01:50:43,293 Speaker 4: It is nine to four, eight hundred and eighty ten 2446 01:50:43,333 --> 01:50:45,532 Speaker 4: eighty's number to call back very shortly. You're listening to 2447 01:50:45,572 --> 01:50:46,453 Speaker 4: Matton Tyler. 2448 01:50:47,333 --> 01:50:50,692 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 2449 01:50:51,053 --> 01:50:52,012 Speaker 1: everything in between. 2450 01:50:52,253 --> 01:50:55,173 Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons used talks. 2451 01:50:55,173 --> 01:50:58,532 Speaker 4: It be news talks here, b We've been talking about 2452 01:50:59,013 --> 01:51:00,892 Speaker 4: the gray areas of the road rules, and the text 2453 01:51:00,933 --> 01:51:02,733 Speaker 4: machine has absolutely exploded. 2454 01:51:02,973 --> 01:51:05,093 Speaker 2: A nine two nine two is that number? Driving with 2455 01:51:05,213 --> 01:51:09,052 Speaker 2: a dog on driver's lap? What about driving wearing large 2456 01:51:09,133 --> 01:51:12,532 Speaker 2: head shades, blocking pro filled vision? It's talking about gray 2457 01:51:12,572 --> 01:51:15,293 Speaker 2: areas of driving. Someone was talking about you're not allowed 2458 01:51:15,293 --> 01:51:16,973 Speaker 2: to drive down the road talking on a phone, but 2459 01:51:17,053 --> 01:51:18,732 Speaker 2: can you drive down the road talking on a banana. 2460 01:51:18,772 --> 01:51:21,892 Speaker 2: It's a massive loophole, massive loophole. I mean, I don't 2461 01:51:21,933 --> 01:51:23,973 Speaker 2: know if there's a rising tide of people that need 2462 01:51:24,053 --> 01:51:25,892 Speaker 2: to be talking to bananas on the way down the road. 2463 01:51:26,213 --> 01:51:27,692 Speaker 2: But if you want to, I think you can. But 2464 01:51:28,173 --> 01:51:29,333 Speaker 2: it is odd that that's legal. 2465 01:51:29,612 --> 01:51:29,812 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2466 01:51:30,013 --> 01:51:31,852 Speaker 3: The dog on the lap though, that is it's a 2467 01:51:31,893 --> 01:51:32,412 Speaker 3: bold choice. 2468 01:51:32,452 --> 01:51:34,093 Speaker 2: When has a banana become a phone if you start 2469 01:51:34,133 --> 01:51:39,532 Speaker 2: putting a headset into it. Yeah, Wellington drivers seem to 2470 01:51:39,612 --> 01:51:43,372 Speaker 2: treat all rules as open interpretation. They are all on 2471 01:51:43,612 --> 01:51:46,572 Speaker 2: the opium and pipe in Wellington. That's from Luca good times. 2472 01:51:46,612 --> 01:51:48,173 Speaker 2: A lot of people in the old school opium pipe 2473 01:51:48,253 --> 01:51:50,213 Speaker 2: having fun on the opiay, this is talking about those 2474 01:51:50,492 --> 01:51:52,972 Speaker 2: inhibitors Alkoho inhibitis and cars. You have to five minutes 2475 01:51:53,013 --> 01:51:54,973 Speaker 2: to blow on the inhibitor while driving to give you 2476 01:51:55,013 --> 01:51:56,852 Speaker 2: the time to pull over safely if you need to. 2477 01:51:57,333 --> 01:51:59,372 Speaker 2: If you turn the vehicle off before blowing, it's a 2478 01:51:59,452 --> 01:52:01,333 Speaker 2: breach and you get a month added to your time. 2479 01:52:01,772 --> 01:52:04,973 Speaker 2: Speaking for a friend. So that was that personal ring 2480 01:52:05,053 --> 01:52:07,293 Speaker 2: up performance heads and some of those inimitators you have 2481 01:52:07,372 --> 01:52:10,293 Speaker 2: to inhibitors have to blow every ten minutes yep, And 2482 01:52:10,452 --> 01:52:13,412 Speaker 2: he was he was asking, well, what's the difference between 2483 01:52:13,452 --> 01:52:16,213 Speaker 2: talking on your phone and blowing into an inhibitor. Sounds 2484 01:52:16,253 --> 01:52:18,012 Speaker 2: like you've got the opportunity to pull over and blow 2485 01:52:18,053 --> 01:52:18,293 Speaker 2: into it. 2486 01:52:18,452 --> 01:52:19,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense. 2487 01:52:19,532 --> 01:52:21,652 Speaker 4: And this one says, can you please tell your listeners 2488 01:52:21,732 --> 01:52:25,013 Speaker 4: that when they turn, they need to stay in the 2489 01:52:25,133 --> 01:52:28,372 Speaker 4: nearest lane. They don't get to choose because they are turning. 2490 01:52:28,452 --> 01:52:31,053 Speaker 4: If there are two lanes, I can turn right at 2491 01:52:31,093 --> 01:52:34,093 Speaker 4: the same time as oncoming turning left. 2492 01:52:34,853 --> 01:52:36,372 Speaker 2: Well that's just made the water. I don't even know 2493 01:52:36,372 --> 01:52:36,692 Speaker 2: what you're talking. 2494 01:52:36,853 --> 01:52:37,013 Speaker 13: Yeah. 2495 01:52:37,053 --> 01:52:38,492 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good. And we're running out of time 2496 01:52:38,532 --> 01:52:41,133 Speaker 2: on the show. Thank you so much for listening everyone. 2497 01:52:42,333 --> 01:52:44,133 Speaker 2: We've had some great calls and text Matt and Tyler 2498 01:52:44,133 --> 01:52:47,213 Speaker 2: full show podcast will be out in about an hour. 2499 01:52:47,612 --> 01:52:49,612 Speaker 2: The Powerful Heather two per clans up next. But Tyler, 2500 01:52:49,652 --> 01:52:51,372 Speaker 2: why am I playing this song from MGMT? 2501 01:52:52,093 --> 01:52:52,852 Speaker 3: It's called kids? 2502 01:52:52,933 --> 01:52:54,372 Speaker 2: But I actually got no idea. 2503 01:52:54,532 --> 01:52:55,572 Speaker 6: What. Wow. 2504 01:52:55,612 --> 01:52:57,492 Speaker 2: We were talking about how events are going to be 2505 01:52:57,532 --> 01:52:59,973 Speaker 2: easy to put on New Zealand and I saw MT 2506 01:53:00,173 --> 01:53:02,372 Speaker 2: at a couple of really good festivals of my time. 2507 01:53:02,492 --> 01:53:05,692 Speaker 3: Hice, you got me with that world done, mate, totally 2508 01:53:06,013 --> 01:53:07,092 Speaker 3: fear that's. 2509 01:53:06,933 --> 01:53:08,933 Speaker 2: From my own personal experiences. Way you could got it, 2510 01:53:08,973 --> 01:53:11,412 Speaker 2: but you're giving them too easily. Yeah, love it, Nike, 2511 01:53:11,532 --> 01:53:14,653 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. See you tomorrow afternoon. 2512 01:53:14,853 --> 01:53:16,412 Speaker 2: Give me a taste of Kiwi from US blesse. 2513 01:53:16,492 --> 01:53:18,812 Speaker 5: Yeah it's Matt Heath and Tyler Adam. 2514 01:53:19,372 --> 01:53:21,933 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b Listen live on 2515 01:53:22,093 --> 01:53:25,052 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2516 01:53:25,133 --> 01:53:27,653 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio