Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up Podcast with Peter
Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay.
Speaker 2: Even when the grass is overgrown in the yard, and
Speaker 2: even when the dog is too old to bark, and
Speaker 2: when you're sitting at the table trying to start.
Speaker 3: Scissor home, even when we leave a band, even when
Speaker 3: you're there alone.
Speaker 2: You know, houses a home, even when those ghost even
Speaker 2: when you got around from the world you love your most.
Speaker 3: Stream, those broken paints.
Speaker 2: Feeling from the wood, locals wisper when they're going to leave,
Speaker 2: the neighbors, even when we're n.
Speaker 3: Even when you're the long.
Speaker 4: Well, A very good morning and welcome along to the
Speaker 4: Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me, Peter wolf Camp,
Speaker 4: the Resident Builder, and this is your opportunity to ask questions,
Speaker 4: to discuss, to debate, to challenge, to ah just have
Speaker 4: a good old fashioned chin wag about all things building
Speaker 4: and construction. So if you've got a practical question of
Speaker 4: a nature of you know, doors that won't open and
Speaker 4: floors that might squeak, or petitions that are not particularly upright,
Speaker 4: these sorts of things, we can talk about that. If
Speaker 4: you've got a question around building and compliance and regulations,
Speaker 4: all of these sorts of things that are part of
Speaker 4: the building environment as well. We can certainly chat. If
Speaker 4: perhaps you've wandered along as I do, to a hardware
Speaker 4: store and I'm perusing the aisles thinking now which one
Speaker 4: of these is better than which one of those? Then
Speaker 4: we can talk products and I you know, things that
Speaker 4: you need to build with or to do projects with.
Speaker 4: We can do that on this program as well. We
Speaker 4: can talk about those things as well. This gives me
Speaker 4: flashbacks to last week, our first caller talking about table
Speaker 4: saws and choosing tools and that sort of thing. Moren't
Speaker 4: happy actually chat about tools and bits and pieces. I
Speaker 4: had my table saw out yesterday, yesday day before, no
Speaker 4: day before, just making something in the shed, which was
Speaker 4: actually enormously satisfying, like a little bit of shed time,
Speaker 4: a little bit of workshop time in effect, a little
Speaker 4: bit of me time, was delightful. So and also an opportunity.
Speaker 4: I'm a late convert to the whole track saw thing.
Speaker 4: Plenty of trades out there, plenty of people will have
Speaker 4: a track saw. I've always had circular saws, I've always
Speaker 4: had table saw I've always had a bit of aluminium
Speaker 4: that I can clamp down as a straight edge, and
Speaker 4: that's a sort of de facto track saw, but they
Speaker 4: are a little bit flash than that. Anyway, I ended
Speaker 4: up with one a little while ago that Royobi guys
Speaker 4: dropped one off, and I was using that for the
Speaker 4: first time for quite a while in the workshop. It
Speaker 4: was actually very good. I can see why everyone's got
Speaker 4: them on site. So little track saw and what do
Speaker 4: I make? I swapped over printers and so had I
Speaker 4: used to have a little platform underneath the printer where
Speaker 4: I could store the paper. Anyway, I swapped over to
Speaker 4: a printer that does a three one that I used
Speaker 4: to take to work with me, which meant that the
Speaker 4: box that I had was too small. Sorry for the
Speaker 4: long introduction to this, but it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 4: So I thought, right, I'll give that one away and
Speaker 4: it's being used by someone else now. And then I
Speaker 4: needed another little platform that I can put the paper
Speaker 4: in underneath there because my office isn't bring enough blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. And then I thought, I'll make a little
Speaker 4: shelf in it too, and then I can put paperwork
Speaker 4: on top of it. And then I had a foss
Speaker 4: around in the shed found I think it was actually
Speaker 4: an old plywood top from a set of trestle tables
Speaker 4: that I'd fossicked away in the back there, So set
Speaker 4: that through the sword, dimensioned it up, cut it up
Speaker 4: with the little ryobi track, saw sanded it, put it
Speaker 4: all together, gave it a first code of razine clear
Speaker 4: polyurethane yesterday, do some filling last night. I'll give another
Speaker 4: coat of polyurethane and that can go into the workshop
Speaker 4: with me into the office rather after it's had it
Speaker 4: seventy two hours of curing.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 4: That was a little project that we got underway, right,
Speaker 4: all things building construction. Can I also say I drove
Speaker 4: this morning to work, as I do every Sunday, obviously,
Speaker 4: and on a street leading to where I live, which
Speaker 4: happens to be in Devenport on the shore, and they're
Speaker 4: doing a lot of work on Lake Road, and so
Speaker 4: they've got lots and lots of road cones. This isn't
Speaker 4: a rant about road cones. This is a rampant about
Speaker 4: the muppets that like to knock them over at night time.
Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, what sort of And to be fair,
Speaker 4: I spent a fair amount of time driving in today
Speaker 4: thinking about that, because I was slightly interfered. It's just
Speaker 4: one of those idiot moves. Oh why go and knock
Speaker 4: them over? Someone's got to come out put them all
Speaker 4: back up again. Everyone has to navigate their way through
Speaker 4: a whole set of scattered road cones on what's already
Speaker 4: a relatively narrow access way, given that there's so much
Speaker 4: work happening on the street. What sort of move is that?
Speaker 4: And then I was trying to figure out actually a
Speaker 4: way of describing said people without getting a BSA complaint,
Speaker 4: because typically we have really blunt and direct ways of
Speaker 4: describing such people on building sites, but that language is
Speaker 4: not appropriate here. So I'm still struggling actually to think
Speaker 4: of a better word than well, I think of lots
Speaker 4: of better words. I just can't say them on the
Speaker 4: radio anyway. Don't be a dick and do that. Oh,
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is
Speaker 4: the text number. That's z BZB from your mobile phone.
Speaker 4: If you would like to text, you are more than
Speaker 4: welcome to do that. And if you'd like to see
Speaker 4: me an email, you can do that as well. Pete
Speaker 4: at newstalksb dot Co dot N said, we are keeping
Speaker 4: an eye on the high jump, which, to be fair,
Speaker 4: was looking a little bit nerve wracking for Kerr, the
Speaker 4: New Zealand high jumper. But he has cleared the last barrier,
Speaker 4: so I think he's cleared two point three one and
Speaker 4: they've now set the barrier at two point three seven,
Speaker 4: which is kind of a door plus an extra bit.
Speaker 4: That's how I always think about it, because you look
Speaker 4: at this and you go, how hig are they actually jumping?
Speaker 4: And they think, well, a standard doors are nineteen to
Speaker 4: eighty leaf, So then you add a gap underneath it,
Speaker 4: and let's say twenty mil for the jamliner, so you're
Speaker 4: at two meters and then add about a foot there
Speaker 4: you go, how's that for mixing up my measurements. I'll
Speaker 4: go two meters because I know what height to door
Speaker 4: is and they're going to add a foot in there
Speaker 4: because somehow I grew up with feet and inches. That's
Speaker 4: a long way. That's a long way to launch your
Speaker 4: body up and over and not clip anything. So anyway,
Speaker 4: he's doing all right. We'll keep you up to date
Speaker 4: with that, and certainly if he's in the hunt for gold.
Speaker 4: We will definitely will keep you up to date. Oh,
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty right, lots to talk about.
Speaker 4: Lots of people coming on the show later on as well.
Speaker 4: Our good mate Bryce from Razine he's going to come on.
Speaker 4: So any specific painting questions you might have, you can
Speaker 4: fire those through on the text machine. That's nine to two,
Speaker 4: nine to two, so zbzb from for the text. Bryce
Speaker 4: will be with us seven twenty five, and then after
Speaker 4: eight o'clock we're going to have a quick catch up
Speaker 4: with Amanda Stains. Now she is the CEO I think
Speaker 4: for the Keystone Trust. I'll tell you about the Stone
Speaker 4: Trust a little bit later. And last week on the
Speaker 4: program I mentioned ventilation. I've made a note we will
Speaker 4: definitely talk a little bit about ventilation. But let's rip
Speaker 4: into it because we've got calls a waiting. It is
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes after six and a very good morning to you.
Speaker 3: Ian.
Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 3: Right, Ian, go for it.
Speaker 5: That sounds better.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, I've got a spa bath and the scud of
Speaker 5: motor and a pump tucked away nicely underneath. And I
Speaker 5: win that was being built maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: I said to the builder, Hey, how do I get
Speaker 5: to that? He said, I look, just zip out this
Speaker 5: panel here. It's about a one point five by five
Speaker 5: mil panel of tiles. It's got a silicon seal around it.
Speaker 5: So at Jude formed the pump stopped well back. So
Speaker 5: I got this knife and zipped around the silicon seala,
Speaker 5: and of course it didn't come out, stayed there like
Speaker 5: where it was. And as far as I can tell
Speaker 5: by running a knife along the edges, there's some vertical
Speaker 5: timber behind it, which looks like the supports for the
Speaker 5: bath itself. And I would bet that some Numpton has
Speaker 5: put the magical jib screws through the jib boarder and
Speaker 5: tied it onto the timber before they put the tiles
Speaker 5: on it, not knowing all about the subtlety of the
Speaker 5: silicon sealer. So the question I've got this hall of a.
Speaker 4: Right, What I was going to ask is that you've
Speaker 4: cut around and broken the bond of the ceilant. That's
Speaker 4: not to say there might not be a little bit
Speaker 4: more of a just like a vacuum that's effectively holding
Speaker 4: it on. What are you using to pry that panel
Speaker 4: off with?
Speaker 5: I've got a putty knife which I've sort of get
Speaker 5: in it. It can go right in and places, so
Speaker 5: it goes and maybe feel interest and you try and
Speaker 5: give us an everage, but it doesn't want to go.
Speaker 5: It's it's a little bit more fixed at the ends
Speaker 5: where there's no timber, but we need the timbering. It
Speaker 5: doesn't want to move at all.
Speaker 4: Right, you don't have a mate who's got those suction
Speaker 4: cups that glaziers use by any chance.
Speaker 5: No, that's a thought. That's a thought. You could have
Speaker 5: a look or something like that.
Speaker 4: Now that'll work, okay, if you can sort of get
Speaker 4: a decent seal around them. The problem with the tiles
Speaker 4: is that they will inevitably have grout lines, so you
Speaker 4: may not get as good a vacuum seal on there
Speaker 4: as you'd like. But it's I'm just thinking about giving
Speaker 4: yourself something a little bit more leverage before or you
Speaker 4: start breaking that panel out completely.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that's good thoughts. I mean, I guess that
Speaker 5: was my question really was, what's what's a recommended method
Speaker 5: for breaking the tires out nicely and neatly?
Speaker 7: As I say, look, you won't.
Speaker 4: Be able to save the tiles, right, or if you do,
Speaker 4: I've got Yeah, okay, I would look to be fair
Speaker 4: hammer and an old chisel, you know, and just work
Speaker 4: your way in from one side trying. Once you've broken
Speaker 4: away chip chipped a corner off, you can sort of
Speaker 4: drive in between the tile and the substrate and just
Speaker 4: cut through the adhesive. But before I suppose i'd get
Speaker 4: in there with a even like with a pry bar.
Speaker 4: So when you cut through the silicon sealant, do you
Speaker 4: feel that the night the blade goes all the way
Speaker 4: through and into sort of you know, a void behind
Speaker 4: like you can't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can put it most of the way along.
Speaker 5: I can put it in. It's spit tight in places,
Speaker 5: but most of the way along I can get it in
Speaker 5: the length of the wood to the length of the blade,
Speaker 5: you know. So I've gone at another forty fifty sixty MILS.
Speaker 4: Other tool that might be quite useful, because to be fair,
Speaker 4: it's always a good idea if you've got an excuse
Speaker 4: to buy more tools. Is a multi tool with a
Speaker 4: cutting blade on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got one of those. I thought I might
Speaker 5: have a play down the and one of my options
Speaker 5: was to sort of go down there's one. There's a
Speaker 5: couple of there's two tiles eye basic this thing, and
Speaker 5: maybe six or eight tiles wide. I thought I might
Speaker 5: try and go down the go outline of a couple
Speaker 5: of the tiles which have no timber behind them. Yes,
Speaker 5: and then if I can get through the ground, i'd
Speaker 5: go straight through. I have to cut the GiB as
Speaker 5: well behind it and take out a whole tile section
Speaker 5: which would give me a handworth to get in behind.
Speaker 5: And whether I can fix the motor from there, I
Speaker 5: don't know, but I might be then able to perhaps
Speaker 5: turn the renovator around the other way with an angle
Speaker 5: blade and attack any screws that the holding a jib
Speaker 5: onto the timber you're onto it. Go for that sort
Speaker 5: of option. Option A. Yeah, A bit of a mess
Speaker 5: effects up, but that's possible. Tars and the problem I've
Speaker 5: got some more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look if you ended up having to make
Speaker 4: just a panel and fixing that neatly.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 4: Is it obvious with the motorers? Like is it the
Speaker 4: first thing you see when you approach the spar or
Speaker 4: is it?
Speaker 5: I know, I know exactly where the motor is. It's
Speaker 5: just around the corner, right. I don't know why. I
Speaker 5: don't know why the tile panel then' one whatever.
Speaker 4: But I think you're on the right track, and I
Speaker 4: would definitely open up that gap with the multi tool,
Speaker 4: And then, like you say, if you take a panel out,
Speaker 4: then you could also use the multi tool to get
Speaker 4: in behind and separate the substrate the lining from the
Speaker 4: stadi just for some reason they have actually been fastened together.
Speaker 5: So the other thought I had was sort of attack
Speaker 5: some tiles directly where quote the screws should be and
Speaker 5: just under the screws. I'm not sure which is the
Speaker 5: best way to go there with us, just to attempt
Speaker 5: to get the whole thing out as a whole with
Speaker 5: damaged tiles, or take out a section without dammating a title.
Speaker 4: I think if I was going to cut through, i'd
Speaker 4: probably try and cut through around the perimeter of a
Speaker 4: tile where you think there is no timber behind it,
Speaker 4: so that in the end you could lift out one
Speaker 4: piece and then you can get in there and have
Speaker 4: a look around. Yep, yeah, all right, mate, all the
Speaker 4: very best. That sounds like a good Sunday. Take care,
Speaker 4: Maybe wait a little bit later before you start those
Speaker 4: renovator tools. They are quite noisy. Yeah, they can be
Speaker 4: quite noisy. We're hearing protection. Oh Waite hundred eighty ten
Speaker 4: eighty the number to call Dave. A very good morning
Speaker 4: to you. This is weird, this is weird. My finger's
Speaker 4: not working. Hang on there we go, got you now,
Speaker 4: Hello Dave, how are good? Thank you?
Speaker 3: And how are you?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Not for bad?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I don't want to bore you as too
Speaker 8: many details, but we've got me more partner for a
Speaker 8: new build place. It wasn't off the plans because it
Speaker 8: was kind of like half built. Yeah, ended up sort
Speaker 8: of signing the sound purchase. But once it was finished,
Speaker 8: there was a lot of issues that we found in
Speaker 8: the pre sediment inspection, like just workmanship issues, and there's
Speaker 8: a lot of problems with it where the developer's not
Speaker 8: really being very good at fixing them within that twelve
Speaker 8: month period. Anyway, We've had a lot of back and
Speaker 8: forth and gotten in real estate agencies involved, and nothing's
Speaker 8: really working. So I've Filder playing with the dispute tribunal
Speaker 8: and there's a bunch of things like paint quality and
Speaker 8: like jip stopping quality and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 8: But my question is is so the house has got
Speaker 8: off It was specified in the spec sheet and in
Speaker 8: the renderings in the building consent plans that they would
Speaker 8: put aluminium lovers on the two front facing windows of property.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 8: The second thing is that it's kind of built into
Speaker 8: a slope section, so they've done a lot of retaining
Speaker 8: block wall, retaining at the bottom of the house built it,
Speaker 8: and on the spec sheet, on the spec sheet it
Speaker 8: specified that the block wall would be plasted with a
Speaker 8: razine brought up I think it was called in Tigre
Speaker 8: or something, And it doesn't specify the actual product and
Speaker 8: the consent plans, but it does and the rendering have
Speaker 8: clearly has like some sort of you know, plaster finish
Speaker 8: on the block.
Speaker 4: Wall on the exterior of the block wall, and I
Speaker 4: presume on the block wall above ground level.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's correct. Yes, because the blockwall kind of is
Speaker 8: all over the ground floor of the house. It makes
Speaker 8: it like a three story house. The block wall kind
Speaker 8: of like supporting that the bottom part of the house.
Speaker 8: So my question has is those two things, like the
Speaker 8: louvers and the finish of the of the block workers.
Speaker 8: It's basically just bear at the moment and do you
Speaker 8: have any elite to stand on when they've specified in
Speaker 8: the specially and the building consent plans that it would
Speaker 8: be plastered.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think that you should have a reasonable claim.
Speaker 4: So the way I've always come to see building consents
Speaker 4: these days is are they are effectively a contract. Right,
Speaker 4: So what's on the building consent is what has to
Speaker 4: be built, and you can change it, but then you
Speaker 4: have to track that change as well. I If, for example,
Speaker 4: something that is removed or substituted and it will an
Speaker 4: item that is part of the building consent, then that
Speaker 4: should be changed with either a minor variation or an amendment,
Speaker 4: and you can track all of those changes. I presume
Speaker 4: the house has a Code Compliance Certificate. Yes it does, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, so it's had its final inspection and it's
Speaker 4: had its CCC. The fact that like the render on
Speaker 4: the exterior of the block work is probably their sense.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a good idea and it
Speaker 4: allows you to paint it and that will allow you
Speaker 4: to make it more weather proof, but it's probably not
Speaker 4: integral to the overall performance of the building, so that
Speaker 4: might be a little bit of a challenging one that
Speaker 4: becomes a contract issue there. Well, I'm interested to hear
Speaker 4: that they didn't install the aluminum lovers on the front
Speaker 4: because I suspect that that's part of their resource consent
Speaker 4: and that will be about either privacy or potentially it'll
Speaker 4: be about shape, and so it'll be part of the
Speaker 4: design of the building. So the fact that they are
Speaker 4: not installed and they were clearly on the on the plans,
Speaker 4: in some ways I'm a little bit surprised that the
Speaker 4: final inspection didn't pick that up right, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 4: have thought the building should get a cc if something's missing.
Speaker 6: It's funny you.
Speaker 10: Say that because the resource consent isn't actually fully signed
Speaker 10: off yet.
Speaker 4: Ah okay, then can you get a CCC without the
Speaker 4: resource consent being signed off?
Speaker 6: Apparently, says I've seen it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right, I think you can. But yes,
Speaker 4: the resource consent should be signed off. And maybe that's
Speaker 4: the thing they haven't done. That it's on the resource
Speaker 4: consent and it hasn't been done. And hopefully and maybe
Speaker 4: the developers thinking, oh if I just ignore a little
Speaker 4: go away and it won't which is good. So that
Speaker 4: that's a really strong position for you to be in
Speaker 4: the fact that the resource consent has not been signed off.
Speaker 4: The other thing is that when was the construction finished?
Speaker 10: Rough maybe like no October or November.
Speaker 4: Okay, last year, all right, now somewhere along the line,
Speaker 4: and you'll go through the property or through the file
Speaker 4: and you'll see the name of the LBP that's been
Speaker 4: assigned to it, particularly in terms of the actual main
Speaker 4: contractor or the person responsible for the structural work. So
Speaker 4: there'll be an LBP. This is the sort of thing
Speaker 4: if you find you're not getting a professional response from
Speaker 4: the LBP is to go to the disciplinary board, so
Speaker 4: the Licensed Building Practitioner Disciplinary Board, because there is now
Speaker 4: a code of Ethics for lbps, right, and that's around
Speaker 4: you know, informing people working professionally, having good communication, those
Speaker 4: sorts of things. So have a look for that online,
Speaker 4: go to LBP Code of Ethics and it'll bring up
Speaker 4: all of that information for you. That would be a
Speaker 4: that gives you a bit of leverage.
Speaker 10: Where would you find them the number of CCC.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, if you go yes on the CCC application form,
Speaker 4: it should have record of works from people like yeah,
Speaker 4: it'll have the LBP details on there. And remember and
Speaker 4: that LBP may not necessarily be the developer. It may
Speaker 4: not necessarily be the main contractor. But if as an LBP,
Speaker 4: like I'm an LBP, if I put my name to it,
Speaker 4: I'm responsible for it, right and and so you can
Speaker 4: leverage off that.
Speaker 10: Right, Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think going to the dispute tribunal in
Speaker 4: the way that you're intending is probably a good idea.
Speaker 3: It does get.
Speaker 4: Tricky around, you know, workmanship, because there is a guide
Speaker 4: to tolerances and a guide to defects. So make sure
Speaker 4: that you are that you know what the rules are
Speaker 4: and what the standards are, and that the work does
Speaker 4: actually is less than what was reasonably expected. And I
Speaker 4: only say that because I know someone who's involved in
Speaker 4: a case recently where their work was actually okay and
Speaker 4: met the standards. In fact was better than okay. It
Speaker 4: was just they were dealing with a client who was
Speaker 4: to be blunt, illogical, right, and unrealistic. So you know,
Speaker 4: you don't sound like that person. But it's always good
Speaker 4: if you're going to go into a dispute around standards,
Speaker 4: that you know what the standards are and you can
Speaker 4: clearly identify and highlight the fact that the work does
Speaker 4: not meet those standards.
Speaker 10: This is an example you can see that joins in
Speaker 10: the ceiling ye in the main living area pretty clearly.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: And that's the sort of thing that in a new build,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean again, if you know what you're
Speaker 4: looking for, you probably find it in anyone's work right
Speaker 4: somewhere along the line. But if you walk in and
Speaker 4: it stands out like the proverbial, then that's not acceptable.
Speaker 4: That's poor workmanship or poor painting, or a combination of both. Yeah,
Speaker 4: good luck and let us know how you get on.
Speaker 4: But check out the LBP Code of Ethics. Okay, cool,
Speaker 4: all right, all the best, take care. Not a great
Speaker 4: situation to be in. It must be kind of disheartening
Speaker 4: to be fair. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 4: We a bit behind on the brakes. It is six
Speaker 4: twenty nine. Good news. Hamish Kerr in the high jump
Speaker 4: has just cleared two thirty six, so he's still in
Speaker 4: the leading pack. So he's just cleared two thirty six,
Speaker 4: which is pretty impressive. Back in the mouth you and
Speaker 4: news talk se'd be keeping one eye on the high jump,
Speaker 4: which is pretty exciting at the moment. So two meters
Speaker 4: thirty six, take your take measure out. Run that up
Speaker 4: the that's almost as tall to be fair, that's like
Speaker 4: just tucking underneath the scotia of a standard new bill.
Speaker 4: Talking about new bills with Dave just a moment ago.
Speaker 4: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 4: to call Marty. Thank you very much for your text.
Speaker 4: But a wonderful word. Wonderful word, unrepeatable on radio, but
Speaker 4: it does go. It's a perfect word for describing those
Speaker 4: people that I made the comment earlier this morning driving
Speaker 4: in there's a lot of roadworks in Cones that are
Speaker 4: up on the road into where I live, and overnight
Speaker 4: someone has thought that it's entertaining to go and knock
Speaker 4: down probably I don't know, thirty percent of them or
Speaker 4: something like that. So I was trying to come up
Speaker 4: with an appropriate term for people who get their jollies
Speaker 4: from doing such an idiotic thing. I wait, one hundred
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Jim A
Speaker 4: very good morning to you. Hey there, Jim, Yes, good morning,
Speaker 4: Good morning, Jim.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's I've got a little heck up. We bought
Speaker 9: a house eight years ago. Who was We're the third owner.
Speaker 9: It would be three four years old. At the time.
Speaker 9: The section was fenced. There was no garage on the section.
Speaker 9: So we got a built, a garage built. We've just
Speaker 9: discovered that the one of the boundary fences, unfortunately next
Speaker 9: door to the garage, is not in the right place.
Speaker 9: So consequently the the the right way should it actually
Speaker 9: comes into the garage about probably about one hundred mills
Speaker 9: right yep? So what where where where do we stand
Speaker 9: with that? You know, everybody signed off for it, but
Speaker 9: now we discover that no one wants to know anything
Speaker 9: about it. I don't know who actually built the fence.
Speaker 9: It wouldn't have been the actual house builder. But yeah,
Speaker 9: the council signed up the garage.
Speaker 4: Hang on, so council signed off the garage. So the
Speaker 4: garage has got a building consent, yes, and the building
Speaker 4: consent was signed off by the council. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: because and when was the garage built? Twelve years ago roughly?
Speaker 9: And eight years ago actually eight years ago now.
Speaker 4: Okay, sixteen Yeah, quite genuinely, I'm a little surprised at
Speaker 4: the fact that the garage was able to be located
Speaker 4: without a surveyor's certificate. Right, So typically these days, back
Speaker 4: in the day, like when I first started building, you'd go, hey,
Speaker 4: look here's where I think the boundary is. This is
Speaker 4: where the building consent shows the new build to go.
Speaker 4: I've run a string line down the boundary and I've
Speaker 4: said it. I tell you what can I just get
Speaker 4: you to hold because it's very in the Olympics right now?
Speaker 1: A chance for gold Live commentary of Paris twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four on you still zvy.
Speaker 11: Shelby McEwen is going to be the first to try.
Speaker 11: He came into the competition with a PB of two
Speaker 11: thirty three. This a full five centimeters higher for Shelby McEwen,
Speaker 11: but he does have momentum on his side. His last
Speaker 11: two jumps have been clearances at two thirty four and
Speaker 11: two thirty six. What about two thirty eight. We're getting
Speaker 11: right up there now McEwen the American left hand side.
Speaker 11: He took off a long way from the bar and
Speaker 11: hit it on the way up. So I miss for
Speaker 11: Shelby McEwen at two thirty eight. If Hamish Kerr can
Speaker 11: clear this, he puts himself in a tremendous position for gold.
Speaker 11: He already knows that he is the gold medallist. If
Speaker 11: Shelby McEwen cannot clear two thirty eight, it's done. On
Speaker 11: countback of missus. Hamish kurmiss twice at two thirty one,
Speaker 11: but cleared first time at two thirty four and first
Speaker 11: time at two thirty six. Shelby McEwen was clear up
Speaker 11: until two thirty four, when he needed three attempts before
Speaker 11: going clear at two thirty six. So as things stand,
Speaker 11: Hamish Curve is in the gold medal position. He's asking
Speaker 11: for assistance from the crowd. Now is Hamish Kur Never
Speaker 11: before has he cleared this height. He said in the
Speaker 11: lead up to these Olympic Games that he believed he
Speaker 11: had a two point forty in his locker. What about
Speaker 11: a two thirty eight first attempt for Hamoush Kurr right handed.
Speaker 3: Approach and no, it never looked good.
Speaker 11: I think he can tell what Hamish curR he gets
Speaker 11: right to the end of his approach, and then we'll
Speaker 11: keep you up.
Speaker 4: Today's eight with the high jumps of Hamishkur, who successfully
Speaker 4: cleared two point three six meters and that puts him
Speaker 4: in a leading position, is now having a go at
Speaker 4: two point three eight. He didn't make that. That's a
Speaker 4: hell of a long way to jump, but neither no
Speaker 4: one else has either, So it's still looking like he's
Speaker 4: a genuine chance for a gold medal. We will keep
Speaker 4: you up to date with that. Let's go back to
Speaker 4: Jim So Jim, I like, I'm a little bit surprised
Speaker 4: that a building that was built twelve years ago, because
Speaker 4: that's not that long ago or eight year years ago,
Speaker 4: wasn't required to have a sighting certificate? Right that that
Speaker 4: somewhere along the line. Typically the first thing the building
Speaker 4: inspector will do on the first inspection, which will be
Speaker 4: the footings. They'll come out and go, okay, can you
Speaker 4: show me where the boundary is or can you show
Speaker 4: me a sighting certificate from a surveyor that shows that
Speaker 4: it's in the correct place, Because and I assume that
Speaker 4: the plans show a theoretical boundary and then the building
Speaker 4: offset from the boundary by a certain distance.
Speaker 9: Right the plans that I've got now, which I didn't
Speaker 9: have at the time because we were here. Yes, I
Speaker 9: does show and this has only been brought to my
Speaker 9: attention now, it does show that the fence comes on
Speaker 9: an angle. It's a bit of a strange thing. It
Speaker 9: comes on an angle and then goes back again. Now,
Speaker 9: to be honest, there is one surveyp at one end
Speaker 9: of the fence, and I think what they've done is
Speaker 9: looked at that and said, oh, well the fence the
Speaker 9: other peak must be down the other end, but I've
Speaker 9: not gone looking for it because it's definitely not there.
Speaker 9: And here.
Speaker 4: Okay, I well, I would say that the fact that
Speaker 4: you know, like if you said to me, look, i've
Speaker 4: got this garage. It was built in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 4: then I'd go, yeah, okay, that's just unfortunate. But the
Speaker 4: fact that it had a building consent, it was signed
Speaker 4: off by the council, and now it turns out that
Speaker 4: it's in the wrong place, I think you've got a
Speaker 4: reasonable claim at council for not doing their job right.
Speaker 4: So and to be fair, every now and then council
Speaker 4: don't do it right. There was a very well known
Speaker 4: case of a house in South Auckland in a subdivision
Speaker 4: which was supposed to be a meter from the boundary
Speaker 4: and ended up being on the boundary, and someone somehow
Speaker 4: missed that in the setout. So I think in this case,
Speaker 4: and the issue is now that someone wants that land
Speaker 4: that you thought was yours but isn't actually yours, and
Speaker 4: they want to use it, like, who knows what's the issue.
Speaker 9: I've actually talked to the neighbor. Yeah, they're quite happy
Speaker 9: to say, just get it serveted off, and you know,
Speaker 9: I leave the fence where it is. I don't want
Speaker 9: the meter or land back again. That's it's been like
Speaker 9: that as long as i'velent here, which is a lot
Speaker 9: longer than me, so that quite happy to do it.
Speaker 9: But it means that we would have to get the
Speaker 9: whole place resurveyed, which you would have an idea how
Speaker 9: I've been told what roughly it would cost.
Speaker 4: Maybe twenty grand something like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, plus.
Speaker 4: Plus you would probably need to buy that piece of
Speaker 4: land now, whether you buy it for a dollar or whatever,
Speaker 4: but to actually make it yours, because you know, at
Speaker 4: this stage, if you and your neighbor agree that it's
Speaker 4: no issue, that's great until one of you changes, right,
Speaker 4: and then if the neighbors ols and somebody else decides
Speaker 4: that in fact they don't want the infringement, they could
Speaker 4: come to you and say it's on my land, you've
Speaker 4: got to move it. And obviously that means demolishing the
Speaker 4: garage and starting over again. Look maybe, and it's probably
Speaker 4: the sort of thing that if you're going to go
Speaker 4: into battle with the council, you probably need to contract
Speaker 4: a lawyer to do that. And you'd go to the
Speaker 4: lawyer and go, look, I want you to make a
Speaker 4: claim to counsel that they are stuffed up basically, and
Speaker 4: that their contribution could be to do a resurvey to
Speaker 4: allow you to legalize the location of the building by
Speaker 4: redoing the the boundary. That's probably going to be the
Speaker 4: best situation. Otherwise, I think you probably in the end,
Speaker 4: the fact that nobody somebody missed out the survey, somebody
Speaker 4: didn't determine the boundary properly in the building got built,
Speaker 4: doesn't mean the building can stay there. Would think that
Speaker 4: the building would probably still need to come down if somebody,
Speaker 4: the neighbor insisted they wanted their piece of land back.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we've had a talk to them
Speaker 9: and they couldn't, you know.
Speaker 4: Which is great, and now would be the time to go.
Speaker 4: Let's formalize that. Let's have you know, let's resurvey the property,
Speaker 4: determine the size of it, decide that this is the
Speaker 4: new boundary, make an arrangement with the two of us.
Speaker 4: But look, by the time you do the survey and
Speaker 4: update the title and all the rest of it. You're
Speaker 4: in the thousands of dollars. And you know, like I say,
Speaker 4: if it was way back, I'd say, it's one of
Speaker 4: those things that happened back then. But today I in
Speaker 4: an eight year old building. There should have been a
Speaker 4: survey certificate and the council inspector should have checked its
Speaker 4: location in relation to the boundary and signed And by
Speaker 4: signing off on the building, they've signed off on the location.
Speaker 4: And it sounds like they've stuffed that up. Good luck
Speaker 4: with all of that, Jim let us. Oh how you
Speaker 4: get on? That's a hell of a thing. Oh, eight
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 4: You can text as well, nine two nine two if
Speaker 4: you'd like, semi a text all things building and construction.
Speaker 4: But right now we'll take a short break. We'll come
Speaker 4: back in just a moment. No break, right, We're going
Speaker 4: to wait for just a little bit longer. It's quite
Speaker 4: exciting at the Olympics right now. Another a reasonable chance
Speaker 4: of another gold medal on top of what has been
Speaker 4: an outstanding overnight performance for New Zealanders. Obviously, Lisa Carrington
Speaker 4: in the k one and dear co in the golf
Speaker 4: as well, both coming away with gold medals, increasing our
Speaker 4: telly quite significantly. So we'll come back and have a
Speaker 4: wee look at the Olympics in just a moment. If
Speaker 4: you've got a question of a building nature, oh eight,
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 4: Actually that's I was relating it initially to the height
Speaker 4: of a door. I'm just trying to in my mind
Speaker 4: think about what it's like to leap over two point
Speaker 4: three six meters. And someone has pointed out and I
Speaker 4: mentioned this as well on the text, Well, when you
Speaker 4: think about a two point four stud, two point three
Speaker 4: six is just forty milimeters less than that. So if
Speaker 4: you've got a standard forty mili bit of coving, then
Speaker 4: that's as high as you're jumping. So if you're in
Speaker 4: a standard house these days, two point four meters, that's
Speaker 4: leaping almost over that wall plate craky. It is a
Speaker 4: staggering achievement, isn't it. You and newstalks'd be we're talking
Speaker 4: all things building and construction. We are going to go
Speaker 4: live to Paris.
Speaker 11: Hang on just a moment, Maybe we are in a
Speaker 11: situation where a jump off or be required, So they're
Speaker 11: showing them, showing them in the joint gold medal position.
Speaker 3: Two missus.
Speaker 11: At an earlier height for McEwen, two misses at an
Speaker 11: earlier height for Kerr.
Speaker 3: McEwen's misses were at.
Speaker 11: Two thirty four, Kerrs were at two thirty one. Can
Speaker 11: Hamer's Kerr put it beyond doubt by clearing two thirty
Speaker 11: eight three years ago we had joint gold medallists. Are
Speaker 11: we headed down that track again? A jump for gold
Speaker 11: though for Hamous care at two thirty eight, the biggest
Speaker 11: jump of his career for Hamous kur If he goes
Speaker 11: clear at two thirty eight, he wins the Olympic gold.
Speaker 3: A miss.
Speaker 11: And we leave ourselves in the hands of the officials.
Speaker 11: Hamus Kerr gets the crowd going. His whole career has
Speaker 11: led to this moment, this one moment on a Parisian night,
Speaker 11: and he dives under the bar Hamous Kurr, so it's
Speaker 11: not going to count. It's a miss, and now we wait.
Speaker 11: Nobody seems to know what the situation is. They're showing
Speaker 11: Hamish Kerr and Shelby McEwen as joint gold medalists at
Speaker 11: the moment.
Speaker 3: They come together.
Speaker 11: Remember three years ago they shared the gold medal by
Speaker 11: Sheem and Tim Berry up and I think they're going
Speaker 11: to jump. Shelby McEwan seems to be indicating that we're
Speaker 11: going to jump off.
Speaker 12: For it back down.
Speaker 11: So they are going to keep going. So apologies for
Speaker 11: any confusion around a premature gold. Famous care is going
Speaker 11: to have to do a bit more work. So back
Speaker 11: out they come and we check.
Speaker 3: The height.
Speaker 11: Does it stay at two thirty eight or do they
Speaker 11: bring it down? Well, they're showing now two forty on
Speaker 11: the barge.
Speaker 3: Just trying to decipher what is going on here.
Speaker 11: Both mckiwen and Hamish Kurr have missed twice at two
Speaker 11: thirty eight. I missed three times rather at two thirty eight,
Speaker 11: and so where do we put the bar now? Lots
Speaker 11: of activity in the jumping area.
Speaker 3: McEwan's going to be first to go.
Speaker 11: Now two thirty eight, it would appear, although the graphic
Speaker 11: has quickly disappeared, it is at two thirty eight, so
Speaker 11: they'll continue to jump at two thirty eight.
Speaker 3: McEwen will be first to go.
Speaker 11: With what is now his fourth attempt at this height.
Speaker 11: Shall we McEwen from the left hand side two thirty
Speaker 11: eight on the bar, and he can't get it done.
Speaker 11: On the way up he crashes into the bar, So
Speaker 11: a fourth miss at two thirty eight, and so presumably
Speaker 11: now we're at sudden death a clearance provided the other
Speaker 11: competitor doesn't clear, and you win. So Hamish Kerr has
Speaker 11: I guess the advantage of going second.
Speaker 3: Hamus Kurr just going through some.
Speaker 11: Final preparations relacing the shoes, making sure there's absolutely no
Speaker 11: possibility of any part of its clothing impeding what could
Speaker 11: be a gold medal jump. So two thirty eight on
Speaker 11: the bar. As we're in a jump off for gold
Speaker 11: here mckiwan has missed in his first jump in the
Speaker 11: jump off at two thirty eight.
Speaker 3: Hamish cur.
Speaker 11: Is next again addresses what would be a new personal best.
Speaker 11: Here is cur and he flicks the bar with his back,
Speaker 11: so a miss for kur at two thirty eight.
Speaker 3: So they'll go again.
Speaker 11: At the same height and Shelby McEwen is next. So
Speaker 11: three years ago the gold medal was shared between Bashim
Speaker 11: and Tambury, but McEwen and Kerr in no such mood
Speaker 11: here in powis it was very different games of course
Speaker 11: three years ago, so they bring it down to two
Speaker 11: thirty six now, So it comes down to two thirty six.
Speaker 11: Both McEwen and Kerr successful at two thirty six in
Speaker 11: ordinary competition, but the pressure and the stakes are a
Speaker 11: lot higher now. Hamus Kerr lying on his back, staring
Speaker 11: up into the Paris night.
Speaker 3: Shelby McEwen ready to have a look at two.
Speaker 11: Thirty six, sudden death high drama high jump. McEwen at
Speaker 11: two thirty six, asking for assistance from the crowd. Here
Speaker 11: is McEwen, Can he put the pressure squarely on Hamish
Speaker 11: Cur by clearing two thirty six.
Speaker 3: Here from the left hand side.
Speaker 11: Here is McEwen and he clips the bar and so
Speaker 11: now Hamish cur with a jump at two thirty six
Speaker 11: for gold. A Kewan misses at two thirty six. Presumably
Speaker 11: if Kurr was to miss at two thirty six, they'd
Speaker 11: go down to.
Speaker 3: Two thirty four again.
Speaker 11: But Hamish Kerr knows this is within his capability. He's
Speaker 11: jumped two thirty six before before tonight did it again
Speaker 11: night a jump for the Olympic gold medal for Hamosh
Speaker 11: cur of New Zealand. Final few words of encouragement and
Speaker 11: advice from coach James Sanderland's all eyes in this enormous
Speaker 11: arena are on Kiwi Hamish cur.
Speaker 3: On.
Speaker 11: This the biggest stage of all, the biggest moment of
Speaker 11: his high jumping career. Two thirty six for gold curve
Speaker 11: from the right hand side, and he can't clear it.
Speaker 11: He can't clear it, and so we drop again?
Speaker 3: Do we drop again? So isn't this a funny old sport?
Speaker 11: Hamus Kirk clear at two thirty six in normal competition
Speaker 11: as was, She'll be McEwen.
Speaker 3: Where are we going with the bar? Now?
Speaker 11: Two thirty four again, it'll be McEwan to jump first.
Speaker 3: I'm sure these two didn't expect to.
Speaker 11: Have to jump this many jumps, this late into the night.
Speaker 11: We're approaching nine o'clock in the evening.
Speaker 3: Amous Kerr wanders over to the middle of the.
Speaker 11: Arena, the high jump area, quick swig of his drink bottle.
Speaker 11: He knows that he can clear two thirty four. He
Speaker 11: knows it, but so tutors shellby McEwen. He knows it.
Speaker 11: What high drama here in the high jump? So we
Speaker 11: look at the countbacks shall be McEwen missed twice at
Speaker 11: two thirty four. Those were his only missers up until
Speaker 11: he missed all three times at two thirty eight, so
Speaker 11: two misses for McEwen. Similarly, Kerr missed twice at two
Speaker 11: thirty one. Those were his only two misses. So clearly
Speaker 11: the height at which you miss doesn't matter in a countback,
Speaker 11: it's just that you missed. So two misses for McEwen
Speaker 11: to misses for Kerr. Neither could clear two thirty eight,
Speaker 11: so into a jump off we go two thirty six.
Speaker 3: Both missed. We're now at two thirty four.
Speaker 11: A jumper piece at this height, this would be where
Speaker 11: it would be really handy to be miked up with
Speaker 11: the officials, as we're really only going from the pictures
Speaker 11: we're seeing on the screen. But as I understand it,
Speaker 11: the bar is at two thirty four and Kerr and
Speaker 11: McEwen will have one jump each at it. M kewan
Speaker 11: goes for a fresh water. He's wandering around as we
Speaker 11: just wait, We just wait. Something we didn't expect at
Speaker 11: this stage at seven o'clock. We might take a break
Speaker 11: shortly or shall we stay with it? Seems to be
Speaker 11: a short delay in proceedings. The reason we're breaking is
Speaker 11: because the four by four hundred meter final is about
Speaker 11: to get underway. So just checking that we can take
Speaker 11: a break for this, I think we probably can be
Speaker 11: good with that mark to take a break, Let's stay
Speaker 11: with it. Let's stay with it. So at the moment,
Speaker 11: Hamish Kerr and Shelby McEwen just have to wait for
Speaker 11: the four by four hundred meter relay to play out.
Speaker 11: This adds further drama too, and already emotion packed high
Speaker 11: jump competition, we've got the men's four by four hundred
Speaker 11: me to relay final about to get underweight. That'll take
Speaker 11: three or four minutes, three or four minutes of waiting
Speaker 11: time for Hamish Kurr and Shelby McEwen. Don't worry, you
Speaker 11: won't miss anything. We'll make sure that you're with us.
Speaker 11: When these two have their ten to two thirty four
Speaker 11: silence around de France for the start of the four
Speaker 11: by four hundred meter relay, Shelby McEwan looks across and
Speaker 11: I guess shows a little bit of interest in his team,
Speaker 11: the United.
Speaker 3: States of America. He gets up and has a look.
Speaker 11: So three minutes worth of this four by four hundred
Speaker 11: meter relay, we're back after this with the conclusion of
Speaker 11: the men's high jump, and we are back as Shelby
Speaker 11: McEwen was applauding and encouraging his four by four hundred
Speaker 11: meter relate countrymen, but he is now going to have
Speaker 11: his attempt. Here is Shelby McEwen.
Speaker 3: At two thirty to put pressure on Hamish Cur.
Speaker 11: McEwen two thirty four has PB before today, approaches from
Speaker 11: the left hand side of the American and misses at.
Speaker 3: Two thirty four.
Speaker 11: So what an opportunity now for Hamish Cur. A clarance
Speaker 11: at two thirty four and the gold medal is his
Speaker 11: surely not in the way that he expected or any
Speaker 11: of us did. So three misses at two thirty eight
Speaker 11: for McEwen, another miss at two thirty eight, another miss
Speaker 11: at two thirty six, and a miss at two thirty four.
Speaker 11: As we work our way back down, Hamish Cur looks
Speaker 11: at two thirty four on the bar as the four
Speaker 11: by four hundred meter relay passes by again. Well, Shelby
Speaker 11: McEwan had his jump during the relay. Hamish Kurgi just
Speaker 11: sorting his foot wear out. He's on the other side
Speaker 11: of the running track, Hamish curse, so he is going
Speaker 11: to have to wait for the conclusion of the four
Speaker 11: by four hundred meter relay, which is currently into its
Speaker 11: third leg as the.
Speaker 3: Runners pass by the high jump area.
Speaker 11: One more lap of the four by four hundred or
Speaker 11: will Hamish curR have his opportunity now that they've passed by.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 11: He is I think going to address this attempt now.
Speaker 11: In fact, the relayers done and dusted, so now we
Speaker 11: can get under way. Massive moment in the track and
Speaker 11: field career of New Zealand's Hamish curve two meters thirty
Speaker 11: four on the bar, the calm serenity masking a deep
Speaker 11: resilience and commitment to hours and weeks and years of training.
Speaker 11: Hamer's curve for the.
Speaker 3: Gold middle Kiwi's can fly.
Speaker 11: And cur scales his everest and his high jump Olympic champion,
Speaker 11: and he is away. Hamous cur sprinting around this arena
Speaker 11: arms wide.
Speaker 3: He is an Olympic champion.
Speaker 11: In the most dramatic of high jump finals, Hamous curve
Speaker 11: brings it home for New Zealand's What a moment. For
Speaker 11: the first time ever, New Zealand has a high jump
Speaker 11: champion at an Olympic Games, and it couldn't happen to
Speaker 11: a bitter bloke. Hamous Curb by way of a jump
Speaker 11: off with Shelby McKellen of the United States, has got
Speaker 11: it done and will stand on the top step of
Speaker 11: the podium. Remarkable, remarkable from Hamoerus cur What a moment
Speaker 11: for him. He embraces the other competitors. Marco Tamburry a
Speaker 11: gold medalist three years ago.
Speaker 4: What a fantastic event. And then the in your head
Speaker 4: waiting for the relay to finish as well keeping your
Speaker 4: composure and then jumping two point three four meters for
Speaker 4: an Olympic gold medal. Fantastic. More in news and sport. Well,
Speaker 4: to be fair, I don't think I'm ever going to
Speaker 4: look at a two point four stud in the same
Speaker 4: way in my life. Again, that was remarkable. So having
Speaker 4: stood any number of frames over many, many years, and
Speaker 4: typically our New Zealand construction, it's two point four meters
Speaker 4: as a stard height. So if you're wandering around you're
Speaker 4: looking at your ceiling right now, you're thinking about Hamish
Speaker 4: cur leaping almost that height. So to win gold medal
Speaker 4: in a very very exciting manner and kind of not
Speaker 4: quite fascical but the fact that their run up leads
Speaker 4: across the track and they had to wait for a
Speaker 4: little while while the men's four by four hundred meter
Speaker 4: final was taking place. And then to keep your head,
Speaker 4: you know, to keep your mind on the task while
Speaker 4: all of this other activity is going on. And then
Speaker 4: to have achieved two point three meters, but to win
Speaker 4: the gold by jumping two point three to four is remarkable.
Speaker 4: We will go to the metal ceremony that'll be in
Speaker 4: about an hour's time. So anyway, it's been a very
Speaker 4: very exciting morning and a great morning for New Zealand
Speaker 4: sport as well at the Olympics, with obviously overnight Lisa
Speaker 4: Carrington gold medal in the K one to five hundred,
Speaker 4: Lydia Co in the golf and now Hamish curR in
Speaker 4: the high jump as well, so three gold medals overnight.
Speaker 4: And thank you very much for persevering with us. It's
Speaker 4: exciting to catch up with a sort of news, right.
Speaker 4: We are talking building construction and stard Heights. Eight hundred
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Speaker 4: got a building question, you can call us now. If
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Speaker 4: through to nine to nine two and Jerry the most
Speaker 4: patient man I know. Thank you for waiting in a
Speaker 4: very good morning to you, Jerry.
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, good morning. Yes, I was very exciting just
Speaker 7: to hear that metal victory by Hamish.
Speaker 4: What I find, apart from the fact that I find
Speaker 4: it difficult to comprehend what it must be like to
Speaker 4: be able to leap that high in that particular event,
Speaker 4: for all of that other activity because there were races
Speaker 4: on the track, right, there's athletic events on the track,
Speaker 4: so you kind of have to wait for other people
Speaker 4: to do their thing and then you can do your thing.
Speaker 4: So keeping your head straight is phenomenal anyway, right, Oh, what.
Speaker 3: Can we watch?
Speaker 4: We talk about Let's talk the basements.
Speaker 7: Yes, I've wondered about this question for many many years. Sure,
Speaker 7: I lived overseas in America and all the places that
Speaker 7: I lived in we always had a basement. And now
Speaker 7: that I'm living here in New Zealand for the past
Speaker 7: ten years, I have never encountered anybody and any home
Speaker 7: or any dwelling that has a basement. Is there something
Speaker 7: in the New Zealand soil, Is there something in the
Speaker 7: New Zealand soil, or just the way you know, I
Speaker 7: just don't understand why there are no basements now in
Speaker 7: the New Zealand housing business.
Speaker 4: Now, let's just be a bit clear on this, because
Speaker 4: people do have basements, right in the sense that if
Speaker 4: you're a two storied house and maybe you're built into
Speaker 4: a bank, you'll excavate, you'll do a retaining wall, and
Speaker 4: that it's not quite a basement. So when you're talking basement,
Speaker 4: you're talking about a house that when you look at
Speaker 4: it from the street, you know, the ground floor might
Speaker 4: be a meter off the ground, let's say, But when
Speaker 4: you go inside the house, you can go down and
Speaker 4: you'll have a cellar. So my family's from the Netherlands,
Speaker 4: and when I go back and at some of my
Speaker 4: aunties and uncles, they will often have what they call
Speaker 4: a calder a cellar, right, And this might be in
Speaker 4: a relatively small house and you go downstairs and it's
Speaker 4: kind of a cool storage space. And having spent a
Speaker 4: little bit of time in the States as well, I
Speaker 4: know exactly what you mean that you'll do a basement, right,
Speaker 4: it'll be often for storage or utilities and that sort
Speaker 4: of thing. And like you, I've often wondered why we
Speaker 4: don't build like that in New Zealand as well. And
Speaker 4: I think if I had the opportunity and I know,
Speaker 4: heighten relation to boundary and site coverage and all those
Speaker 4: sorts of things, if I wanted like a single level dwelling,
Speaker 4: and I had the opportunity of let's say, having that
Speaker 4: floor AT's say a meter off the ground, I would
Speaker 4: probably seriously consider doing a basement exactly like that. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I do wonder. I don't know what it is, whether
Speaker 4: it's our designers are not familiar with it. There's no
Speaker 4: reason that. I mean, I've done plenty of basement developments
Speaker 4: where we've dealt with issues, you know, often around moisture,
Speaker 4: for example, because what you don't want is for that
Speaker 4: to become a swimming pool or a tank underneath the house.
Speaker 4: But you can deal with that. So no, it's a
Speaker 4: mystery to me.
Speaker 7: But there's nothing wrong with the actual soil composition in
Speaker 7: New Zealand.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine. So I mean, you know, I mean
Speaker 4: you think about Wisconsin for it, name just you know,
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there are thousands of houses in Wisconsin
Speaker 4: where with basements, right, and it will freeze and you'll
Speaker 4: get two or three meters of snow in winter. We
Speaker 4: had friends who were living just outside of Boston, for example,
Speaker 4: and they would get two or three meters of snow
Speaker 4: in the winter, and they probably had a basement, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure the basement was designed to cope with that
Speaker 4: in areas perhaps where I mean, you obviously wouldn't want
Speaker 4: to do it in areas that are prone to flooding.
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking where I live, we could easily do
Speaker 4: a basement. So yeah, no, I really don't. It's a
Speaker 4: mystery to me as well.
Speaker 7: Jerry, So just quickly, in Australia the same pattern basically
Speaker 7: is the same as in New Zealand. Very I just
Speaker 7: I don't understand why that would be as well.
Speaker 4: And the other thing that amuses me about it is that,
Speaker 4: you know, for most of us, a serious issue is
Speaker 4: because we're consumerists, right, we end up with a whole
Speaker 4: lot of stuff, and so one of the great challenges
Speaker 4: with most people's houses is where do I put all
Speaker 4: my stuff? So why wouldn't you do a basement? You know?
Speaker 4: If you had, let's say, a house with a floor
Speaker 4: plan of one hundred and fifty square meters, right, single
Speaker 4: story dwelling one hundred and fifty square meters, and you
Speaker 4: had a sixty square meter basement down below that you
Speaker 4: could use for storage, that would be amazing.
Speaker 7: All right, Peter, I'll just don't know. On a humorous note,
Speaker 7: I used to enjoy I used to enjoy listening to
Speaker 7: the song Clap for the wolf Man. So no, no,
Speaker 7: I'm clapping for wolf camp man.
Speaker 4: I'm going to look that up. I've never heard of it,
Speaker 4: Clap for the wolf Man. Alrighty, that could be my
Speaker 4: new intro song. You might have started something, Jerry. I
Speaker 4: really appreciate your time. You have a great day. Take
Speaker 4: care by I mean, this is the great thing about traveling,
Speaker 4: I guess, and the great thing about being able to
Speaker 4: move around is to see how other people build as well.
Speaker 4: And for those of you who might have been anywhere
Speaker 4: in Europe almost but I can remember going to my
Speaker 4: aunt Ince to her house, and it was a relatively
Speaker 4: compact house, as many Dutch houses are stand alone, so
Speaker 4: small plot of land, relatively small house, too storied, and
Speaker 4: then just underneath the stairs was another little set of
Speaker 4: stairs that went down to the calder. There's probably only
Speaker 4: four meters square something like that, but that's where you
Speaker 4: store vegetables, produce extra food, a little bits and pieces.
Speaker 4: I often do wonder why we don't do basements as
Speaker 4: in sellars when we're constructing in New Zealand, partly for
Speaker 4: storage and partly for well all ways for storage utilities
Speaker 4: as well. Imagine if you could put your heating system
Speaker 4: somewhere that's accessible, or your ventilation system, or your hot
Speaker 4: water system, even your distribution board, all of these sorts
Speaker 4: of things in an area that you could readily get
Speaker 4: access to anyway. It's an interesting thought. Oh eight one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty, ten eighty, we'll take a short break.
Speaker 4: We'll be back with more of your calls and just
Speaker 4: your news storks. The'd be and it's a great pleasure
Speaker 4: to welcome back to the program our painting expert Bryce
Speaker 4: McDermott from Razine. Good morning, Bryce.
Speaker 7: Good morning, How are you very well, very very.
Speaker 4: Well and quite excited to be fair to watch that
Speaker 4: or to hear the Olympic coverage. So it's been a
Speaker 4: golden kind of day at the Olympics for New Zealand.
Speaker 6: It's just a pity that the Albis couldn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't well, I wasn't going to mention it either, right, hey, look,
Speaker 4: I tell you what can we start with? And it
Speaker 4: was one of our first callers today, Dave, who is
Speaker 4: has has bought a new build and is a bit
Speaker 4: disappointed by some of the standard of the finishing inside.
Speaker 4: And one of the things he commented on was paint work.
Speaker 4: And I said to him, look, you've got to understand
Speaker 4: there is a guide to tolerances. Right, So in terms
Speaker 4: of like you would often I would imagine in your
Speaker 4: professional role get called out to jobs where someone goes,
Speaker 4: I don't think the painter has done a good job,
Speaker 4: or I don't think the paint is any good, or
Speaker 4: something like that. So what's the actual kind of official
Speaker 4: tolerance guide Where can people find that? If you know,
Speaker 4: someone calls you and says, look, i've had this painter
Speaker 4: and I don't think it's very good, come and have
Speaker 4: a look at it. What criteria do you use and
Speaker 4: what criteria are there for judging the quality of paint work?
Speaker 6: Well to take off the you know, the the actual
Speaker 6: paint itself, it's not really you know, paint issue is
Speaker 6: so it's a normally issue. Yeah, So you know, I
Speaker 6: generally refer people back to the master Painters on their website.
Speaker 6: There is a level of inspection information that you can
Speaker 6: you can actually use to have a look, but it
Speaker 6: just tells you, you know, how to basically inspect a
Speaker 6: paint surface and things like that, like if you're looking
Speaker 6: at a wall, for instance, you stand a meter back
Speaker 6: and have a look and see if there's any glaring
Speaker 6: defects or anything like that. Yeah, you know, not stand
Speaker 6: like two or three inches away from the surface or
Speaker 6: lie down on the floor look at the skooting and
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I would generally refer people back
Speaker 6: to that in the first instance, basically because you know,
Speaker 6: it's the painter is only as good as the man
Speaker 6: who is putting it on. And I say that was
Speaker 6: the greatest of care.
Speaker 4: So there is a reasonableness, isn't there? And you're right,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure we've all encountered the gross respect clients
Speaker 4: that go, hey, look here I am, I'm standing ten
Speaker 4: centimeters away from the surface and I've noticed that there's
Speaker 4: an imperfection in the paint work. And you go, well,
Speaker 4: hang on, that's not a reasonable standard. So there is
Speaker 4: there's a guide to tolerances, okay, and that's interesting. You
Speaker 4: mentioned master painters, So for someone who's concerned about the
Speaker 4: quality of their work, they could go to that and
Speaker 4: use some of that documentation as a guide, I guess,
Speaker 4: or as a reference.
Speaker 6: Yep. Yeah, it's just keeping it neutral in the first place,
Speaker 6: and everybody knows where they stand.
Speaker 4: Well, that's good. So we had a text along similar line.
Speaker 4: So that's good that we've covered that off, right. Yah,
Speaker 4: let's rip into a couple of text for you, Bryce. Hey, Pete,
Speaker 4: I've got some damp wooden treated fence palings that I
Speaker 4: want to paint. How dry do they have to do
Speaker 4: they have to be before I can paint them?
Speaker 6: From Well, they're generally full of treatment as well, right,
Speaker 6: because because they come If you look at the way
Speaker 6: palings are delivered, they're bundled up on a pallet and
Speaker 6: strapped in big bundles, so they don't really get to
Speaker 6: get a chance to dry. So you know, nail them
Speaker 6: all up, stick them on the fence, and you know,
Speaker 6: give it a week or two. I don't think that
Speaker 6: that would be unreasonable. It just depends on the amount
Speaker 6: of moisture and the timber, okay, and the treatment itself,
Speaker 6: you know, just just let the wind and stuff like
Speaker 6: that get to it.
Speaker 4: Certainly, don't be putting them up and painting them the
Speaker 4: next day.
Speaker 6: No, just just give them, just give them a chance
Speaker 6: to sort of, you know, because if they're in the
Speaker 6: middle of the palette or the stack of timber, they
Speaker 6: can actually be quite moldy as well, depending on the
Speaker 6: time of storage.
Speaker 4: Right right now, this is an interesting one. Greetings. I've
Speaker 4: recently purchased a house which is clad and batten and
Speaker 4: boored macrocarpa. It's approximate twenty five years old. It's in
Speaker 4: good condition. It was water blasted prior to sail, so
Speaker 4: it's a golden color. Should I stain it with something
Speaker 4: or let it gray off again? From Paul?
Speaker 6: Wow, well, yeah, it can be stained. I would look
Speaker 6: at something in our Woodsmen range the Woodsmen stains, remembering
Speaker 6: of course that you know, once you stained something, you
Speaker 6: know you will be looking at you know, every two years,
Speaker 6: you'll be you know, doing some maintenance coats as well. Yes,
Speaker 6: generally up to the individual taste as to how you
Speaker 6: want the timber to look, you know, if it grays
Speaker 6: off nicely. Some people like that.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm slightly amazed that at twenty five year old
Speaker 4: macrocarpa that's been left untreated, let's say, has lasted as well.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's fantastic that it has. I would certainly
Speaker 4: recommend putting some sort of treatment over and the thought
Speaker 4: of somebody water blasting beer timber if they haven't done it, well, gosh,
Speaker 4: that's a recipe for disaster as well.
Speaker 6: Right, it has to be done very very I built
Speaker 6: a retaining wall once out of macrocarpa, simply because it's
Speaker 6: the person I was building the retaining wall for didn't
Speaker 6: want treated timber, and macrocarpa does the job.
Speaker 4: Yes. Funnily enough, I was tidying up around a raised
Speaker 4: vegetable garden that I built four years ago yesterday, and
Speaker 4: I did that in macrocarp for sleepers. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: it's still in great condition. It's weathered off, but that's
Speaker 4: exactly what I thought. But it's also you know, six
Speaker 4: by four sleepers, so it's going to take a while
Speaker 4: for that to decay.
Speaker 3: Right heah.
Speaker 4: Another quick question, Hi there, I've got an aluminium garage
Speaker 4: door to paint that's very worn it's hard to find
Speaker 4: the right description, but you know how aluminium can go
Speaker 4: after the standing. What primate do I need? This is
Speaker 4: from Vaughn so an old existing aluminium door that they
Speaker 4: want to repaintmde Gart door nice garage, Doore aluminium garage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I presume there's no coating left on it. If
Speaker 6: that's the case, yep, I would you know, obviously clean
Speaker 6: down the door, don't stand it too much, but you know,
Speaker 6: get it, you know, stand and ready for coating and
Speaker 6: then put a full coat of what we call armor
Speaker 6: x GP primer yep, which is like a very very
Speaker 6: sick and good multi purpose primer and it text like
Speaker 6: anything to elimn and then you can, you know, you
Speaker 6: can put an acrylic coating like Summit roof over the
Speaker 6: top of it, or you could even use an amcrel
Speaker 6: or something like that, you know, the water worning ammel,
Speaker 6: depending on the gloss level that you want.
Speaker 4: Excellent. Okay, So, and what was that armor.
Speaker 6: Tex armor x GP primer.
Speaker 4: It's GP primer. I'm writing that down. I've got a
Speaker 4: job for that too. Awesome as always, thank you. Well
Speaker 4: we'll move on because we've got more Olympic coverage as well. Bryce,
Speaker 4: thank you again for your advice and for anyone who's
Speaker 4: got painting questions, go and see the team in the
Speaker 4: Razine Color Shop and they will give you all of
Speaker 4: that expert advice and great product. Thanks very much, Bryce,
Speaker 4: have a good day, Take care, all the best, bobbe
Speaker 4: your News Talks c B will take more of your calls.
Speaker 4: Building issues, building questions, building topics. We're talking all things
Speaker 4: building in construction this morning on the program, while keeping
Speaker 4: an eye I on the Olympics, and we're hoping to
Speaker 4: go to the gold medal ceremony for Hamish Kerr, who
Speaker 4: leapt an impressive two point three six meters. He cleared that,
Speaker 4: but he actually won the gold medal by jumping two
Speaker 4: point three to four meters, so that's quite impressive. Right,
Speaker 4: we'll take short break. We'll come back with more of
Speaker 4: your calls. Tanya, it will be with you in just
Speaker 4: a moment. Your News Talks the b and keen to
Speaker 4: get underway again.
Speaker 3: A couple of.
Speaker 4: Interesting texts with regard to Jerry's comments about his sort
Speaker 4: of bewilderment as to why we don't do basements and
Speaker 4: when I say basements, I'm not talking about sort of
Speaker 4: kind of accidental basements that are not uncommon here. Let's
Speaker 4: say you've got a nineteen seventies house and it might
Speaker 4: have a garage at the bottom and then the houses
Speaker 4: on top that sort of thing. This is kind of
Speaker 4: more deliberate I American style basements. A couple of texts
Speaker 4: have come in around that foundations have to be set
Speaker 4: below the permafrost depth level. That's the reason for the
Speaker 4: basements in the USA and Canada. I appreciate that. Hey, Pete,
Speaker 4: my family and Wellington here in New Zealand have a basement.
Speaker 4: In a family in Auckland also a large basement, quite large,
Speaker 4: cool and great for storage. And then again in cooler countries,
Speaker 4: in cooler climates the boilers. They need to put the
Speaker 4: boilers somewhere, and that's where piping would freeze if it
Speaker 4: was in an open underfloor area, so hence the basement.
Speaker 4: So there is a practical climatic reason for having them.
Speaker 4: But I would have thought, and I had this discussion
Speaker 4: with some architectural designers and architects a little while ago.
Speaker 4: Around most of us have just got a lot of stuff,
Speaker 4: and yet when we're building, we don't think of places
Speaker 4: to put stuff. I think about all the new builds
Speaker 4: that you see, hardly any of them actually use the
Speaker 4: garage for a car, and so the car is en
Speaker 4: up out on the road and the garage is full
Speaker 4: of stuff. And I'm exactly the same at my place
Speaker 4: and got a garage. It's never seen a car inside it.
Speaker 4: Maybe basements, if you've done a basement, let us know.
Speaker 4: Send me a text nine nine two D be right.
Speaker 4: Oh Toya, very good morning to you. How are you?
Speaker 4: Thanks for wedding.
Speaker 13: Just a quick question. We're looking at our comar to
Speaker 13: a housing yep, and yesterday we went to build Built
Speaker 13: Smart transportable building.
Speaker 14: Now I just had a look at their brochure.
Speaker 13: Does the builders come under Master Builders Associations? What transportable
Speaker 13: homes come under?
Speaker 4: Oh? I see what you're saying. Yeah, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: that any of the off site manufacturers sort of transportable homes,
Speaker 4: tiny homes, And there's no reason that they wouldn't be
Speaker 4: part of Master Builders. You know, in the end, Master
Speaker 4: Builders is sentially a subscription service, right, so you have
Speaker 4: to prove some competency and then you can join. So
Speaker 4: there would be no reason that an off site manufacturer
Speaker 4: doing tiny homes couldn't be part of Master Builders, but
Speaker 4: I don't know if many of them are so. Ye,
Speaker 4: what you're sort of saying is, is there an association
Speaker 4: like a tiny homes manufacturers association that has a membership
Speaker 4: and that in order to become a member you have
Speaker 4: to prove a certain level of competency or experience or
Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know that there is. Certainly
Speaker 4: the variation in the quality of tiny homes constructors is vast,
Speaker 4: would be the most kind and polite way of putting its. Great. Yeah,
Speaker 4: interesting you mentioned it because I've been chatting with some
Speaker 4: guys up in the Far North at panel Lock Homes
Speaker 4: and they're doing housing, so they do housing in their
Speaker 4: factory which is then transportable. But these are not tiny homes.
Speaker 4: These are you know, houses of seventy eighty square meters
Speaker 4: right that are being done with off site manufacturing and
Speaker 4: using like the J and L product, which is the
Speaker 4: triboard for the actual construction of the houses, and then
Speaker 4: being moved on to I guess ewe Land And maybe
Speaker 4: some of that will be for Commarta, some might just
Speaker 4: be for general far Now living and that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: But it's it's a fascinating place. And I actually I
Speaker 4: was at a presentation the other day that this was
Speaker 4: raised as well, and in fact I went past the
Speaker 4: development this big why prayer of trust? I think are
Speaker 4: doing a big development out near Middlemoor Hospital and part
Speaker 4: of that will be commard to a housing So it's
Speaker 4: it's an interesting new description of housing.
Speaker 13: M So you know only they've got it are with
Speaker 13: a circle around it?
Speaker 14: Does that mean registered? What does that actually want?
Speaker 4: Are with a circle around it around it?
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's built smart. Then it's got this little R
Speaker 13: with a circle around it. It doesn't say in their
Speaker 13: broch and what it actually means it and I thought
Speaker 13: it must mean register. But register would I mean?
Speaker 4: In the end, if you were going to go to
Speaker 4: this company or any other company and the work is
Speaker 4: going to be consented, which I presume you probably would do,
Speaker 4: then that because building work that's consented is restricted building work,
Speaker 4: which means that it can only be done or supervised
Speaker 4: by a licensed building practitioner. So at least you'll have
Speaker 4: that surety around the work being done by an LBP,
Speaker 4: which means you'll also get a record of works. And
Speaker 4: because it's consented you'll also get a code compliance certificate
Speaker 4: at the end of the project. So I think if
Speaker 4: you've got all of those things together, you can be
Speaker 4: reasonably confident about the quality of the work.
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, that sounds that sounds good.
Speaker 4: Sounds like an exciting project, it idea. Yeah, nice to
Speaker 4: chat with you, Yes, okay, all the very best youa
Speaker 4: take care, beautiful call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 4: If you've got a question of a building, nature will
Speaker 4: take your calls. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Will
Speaker 4: take a short break, will be back with Jen in
Speaker 4: just a moment. We will be crossing live to Paris
Speaker 4: for the gold medal awarding, the ceremony with Hamish Cure
Speaker 4: after his called middle leap in the high jump, So
Speaker 4: they'll be coming up shortly. Hey Jin, good morning to you.
Speaker 14: Good morning, good morning, good morning. Hello. Yes, yes, well
Speaker 14: I actually grew up in Britain during the Blitz and
Speaker 14: we were we were digging underneath, you know, to keep safe.
Speaker 14: But here in New Zealand, this is where the danger
Speaker 14: is for earthquakes. So don't you think that the reason
Speaker 14: which we are not finding too many basements in New
Speaker 14: Zealand is because of the risk of earthquakes.
Speaker 4: Look, it's it's a fair comment to make, and certainly
Speaker 4: I can appreciate that. Yeah, there would have been a
Speaker 4: usefulness to them back at in those times in terms
Speaker 4: of the blitz. Again, like, if you were to do
Speaker 4: a basement and it's concrete and it's reinforced and it's
Speaker 4: underneath the house, I would have thought that you'd actually
Speaker 4: be reasonably safe in that during an earthquake. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure that that is earthquake, you know. I mean, obviously
Speaker 4: we do have a higher risk of seismic activity in
Speaker 4: large parts of New Zealand, and so maybe that is
Speaker 4: an issue. But I would have thought that that could
Speaker 4: be designed for as well. If people did insist on
Speaker 4: having a basement, it could be achievable.
Speaker 14: But the uncertainty is there. Yeah, if you put a
Speaker 14: lot of money into a building and then if it's
Speaker 14: suddenly you get an earthquake, which is unpredictable in every way.
Speaker 14: If you're in, if you're on that, whatever, the thought like,
Speaker 14: then well you would you would like to risk all
Speaker 14: the money on that, would you know?
Speaker 4: But then I'm thinking about that, thinking, well, then you know,
Speaker 4: the greater risk would be that we've got lots, you know,
Speaker 4: increasingly in terms of our residential housing, a lot of
Speaker 4: the sort of info and development stuff is now going
Speaker 4: to three stories. So I would have thought that our
Speaker 4: three story building has a greater risk of let's say,
Speaker 4: harm when it comes to a seismic event than a basement,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean that if we can design
Speaker 4: for that, and if you look at the amount of
Speaker 4: bracing that goes into a new build these days, certainly
Speaker 4: the intention is that they stay up long enough for
Speaker 4: people to escape safely. That's the whole intent of the
Speaker 4: seismic engineering of them. But that would be a greater risk.
Speaker 14: But I'm completely thinking about abasement. Sure, if you want
Speaker 14: to in New Zealand, it's a different schedule fish than
Speaker 14: the other side of the world. Mainly anyway, Anyway, that
Speaker 14: was just not point because having having experienced the other
Speaker 14: that you dive underneath society. Indeed, I've many times dived
Speaker 14: under a table and got the worse end of the stick.
Speaker 6: See we've only got a minute.
Speaker 4: But Jenna, is it still something that you you obviously
Speaker 4: still think about those times and I'm guessing you, I mean,
Speaker 4: both my parents lived through the Second World War and
Speaker 4: you know, I know kind of what age they are
Speaker 4: and memory fades, but this is obviously something that's still
Speaker 4: front of mind for you though, that experience of surviving
Speaker 4: that time. And were you in London or where were
Speaker 4: you during the blitz?
Speaker 14: I was in Birmingham, in Birmingham which was heavily bomb
Speaker 14: they bombed the spit fire effect.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, ah.
Speaker 14: Anyway, it was just a point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's.
Speaker 4: A it's a great point. Really appreciate it. Lovely to
Speaker 4: chat with you, Jen, Thank you all right, all the
Speaker 4: best to you by by then. Remarkable memories. Ah, yes,
Speaker 4: so that the small so earlier call it Toya was
Speaker 4: talking about a company that they were looking at doing
Speaker 4: some tiny homes or transportables. Actually I've had a look
Speaker 4: on their website. It's more about transportables.
Speaker 9: You can.
Speaker 4: Here's a thought, and I've had a number of discussions
Speaker 4: during the week with people around Submissions are open at
Speaker 4: the moment for people to invite comment. In fact, I
Speaker 4: think it closes tomorrow around the idea of being able
Speaker 4: to build to sixty square meters without necessarily requiring a
Speaker 4: building consent, and this has been put forward by the
Speaker 4: government as a way of increasing supply and affordability right
Speaker 4: and removing some of the red tape that tends to
Speaker 4: either add cost and certainly adds time to these sorts
Speaker 4: of builds. And I do wonder whether the way forward
Speaker 4: will be that companies that are already have processes and
Speaker 4: systems in place for off site manufacture of buildings, we'll
Speaker 4: be able to continue to do those buildings, but may
Speaker 4: not necessarily need to go through the consenting process. That
Speaker 4: would seem to me to be a relatively straightforward process
Speaker 4: at the moment. One of the things that's been considered
Speaker 4: is that a trusted professional, which I presume might be
Speaker 4: an LBP or a registered engineer, would have involvement in
Speaker 4: the process and be able to build. But there's still
Speaker 4: some fish shocks in that in terms of ensuring compliance,
Speaker 4: ensuring that standards remain high, that buildings are fit for purpose,
Speaker 4: if we go into it without having the need for
Speaker 4: a consent. Right, we are going to go to Paris
Speaker 4: and catch up with the gold medal ceremony. I'm just
Speaker 4: keeping an eye on the gold medal ceremony so when
Speaker 4: that comes up. This is Hamish Kerr, who left an
Speaker 4: impressive two point three six meters during the competition, and
Speaker 4: then because they both ended up McEwen from the USA
Speaker 4: was the other jumper. They both got to two point
Speaker 4: three six, but then they were equal and so they
Speaker 4: raised the bar. They both failed. Then they put it
Speaker 4: to two point three six, which they both achieved. Then
Speaker 4: they couldn't jump that. Then they dropped it to two
Speaker 4: point three four, at which point Hamish Kerr let cleared
Speaker 4: the bar. McEwen from the USA did not. Hence Hamish
Speaker 4: Kurr is now the Olympic gold medalist in the high jump.
Speaker 4: So we will cross live and catch up with that.
Speaker 4: Just before the break, we were also talking with Toya
Speaker 4: about the build Smart which happens to be a transportable
Speaker 4: buildings company, and so she said, oh, what about the
Speaker 4: little R. So the R, of course is just it's
Speaker 4: a registered trademark. So they've gone out and registered the
Speaker 4: name build Smart good on them, which gives them the
Speaker 4: right to use it and means that other people can't.
Speaker 4: Just with regard to that and submissions like I mentioned
Speaker 4: Klose tomorrow, I understand this is discussion documents around the
Speaker 4: government's proposal to allow buildings of up to sixty square meter,
Speaker 4: so granny flats to be built without necessarily requiring a
Speaker 4: building consent, How will that be managed, how we ensure quality,
Speaker 4: all sorts of groups. I know Hamish Firth, who's a
Speaker 4: planner who's been part of this program from time to time.
Speaker 4: They've made submissions on it. I was talking to the
Speaker 4: head of the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys actually
Speaker 4: during the week as well. They are going to put
Speaker 4: in a submission as well with suggestions. So all of
Speaker 4: this is up for grabs, and I think there's even
Speaker 4: there's submissions going in around things like rolling back the
Speaker 4: H one changes as well, that relates to insulation and
Speaker 4: energy efficiency in our building. So lots and lots of discussion,
Speaker 4: lots and lots of politics around it. But I do
Speaker 4: wonder whether if we are going to move to a
Speaker 4: space where, let's say, if you've got the land and
Speaker 4: if you've got the distance from the boundaries and so on,
Speaker 4: that you could build a sixty square meter granny flat
Speaker 4: without necessarily requiring it consent, whether the simplest pathway is
Speaker 4: to have most of those buildings being built by off
Speaker 4: site manufacturers who already have processes. And I suppose a
Speaker 4: compliance pathway as part of their build process. It's not
Speaker 4: a because they're doing them one after the other after
Speaker 4: the other after the other. They're not having to rethink it.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking about the practicality. If someone said to me,
Speaker 4: could you come and build a sixty square meter granny
Speaker 4: flat for me? I want it to be you know,
Speaker 4: this long and this high, and you know a trust
Speaker 4: roof and all the rest of it. Could I do
Speaker 4: that without a set of plans? Maybe? But only just
Speaker 4: I mean typically we rely on plans to give some
Speaker 4: guidance around details. You know, where would I go to
Speaker 4: find out the span tables and the choice set out?
Speaker 4: And how do I calculate my insulation standards to ensure
Speaker 4: that it's compliant. Because even if something doesn't require a
Speaker 4: building consent, it still needs to be compliant with the
Speaker 4: building code. So in my thinking, it would be a
Speaker 4: real straightforward pathway to go. Hey, look, if we're going
Speaker 4: to offsite manufacturers who are doing these buildings day in
Speaker 4: and day out, they've already got all of their processes
Speaker 4: in place in terms of insuring compliance with the code.
Speaker 4: They can monitor their standards, they know that the building's
Speaker 4: fit for purpose, maybe that's where they are the first
Speaker 4: ones that are allowed to go. Yep, we can not
Speaker 4: necessarily get a building consent for this work, and we
Speaker 4: know that it's going to be to code. That's a
Speaker 4: thought anyway. You may have your own thoughts on that
Speaker 4: as well. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We'll take
Speaker 4: calls again after news, sport and weather, and we'll take
Speaker 4: calls after the metal ceremony which we're waiting for. So
Speaker 4: if you're thinking, criky, hey you've missed the news, guys,
Speaker 4: you're right. We have missed the news, but don't worry.
Speaker 4: We will come to the news. But we do want
Speaker 4: to go live to Paris for the gold medal ceremony
Speaker 4: with Hamish cur The other topic, and I may have
Speaker 4: to dash from this, but I'll get started on it.
Speaker 4: I mentioned last week that I'd had a very in
Speaker 4: depth and fruitful discussion with someone who's an expert in ventilation,
Speaker 4: and in fact, after that I then needed to call
Speaker 4: on her expertise. Where the classic situation with a building,
Speaker 4: nineteen sixties building, it's a rental property, it's healthy homes
Speaker 4: compliant in the sense that it's got extraction in the bathroom,
Speaker 4: it's got extraction in the kitchen area, it's got a
Speaker 4: fixed form of heating that will heat the living areas,
Speaker 4: it's got insulation in the ceiling, it's got insulation in
Speaker 4: the underfloor, and it's got mold. And I'm going, so,
Speaker 4: how is it that a building with all of those
Speaker 4: things still ends up having, in the middle of winter
Speaker 4: a persistent issue with mold. So I've given a storm
Speaker 4: who will come on this show in a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks time, those details, and then asked her to sort
Speaker 4: of do an analysis of what's going on in the building.
Speaker 4: And I'm happy to share that with you when she
Speaker 4: joins us on the program as well. So that whole
Speaker 4: thing's actually this is another interesting thing with where building's
Speaker 4: at at the moment. There is now the beginning of
Speaker 4: a I suppose an industry inclusive lobby group, let's say,
Speaker 4: around ventilation. There's been so many stories over the last
Speaker 4: couple of months where people are going, oh, look, we're
Speaker 4: putting too much insulation into our houses. That's why they're overheating,
Speaker 4: which is untrue, unscientific, and untrue. Right, houses don't overheat
Speaker 4: because you put insulation in them. They overheat because they're
Speaker 4: poorly designed, they overheat because they've got a lack of ventilation.
Speaker 4: That's what causes overheating. It's not insulation does not cause overheating,
Speaker 4: might contribute theoretically because no, actually no, leave that alone.
Speaker 4: So ventilations are pretty key issue, particularly and I was
Speaker 4: wondering on a new build the other day that had
Speaker 4: rigid air barrier, had good quality, really good quality joinery,
Speaker 4: it had had air cells around all of the joinery,
Speaker 4: rigid air barrier, good quality joinery, high spec double glazing
Speaker 4: in it. That building's going to be not quite air type,
Speaker 4: but you know, getting closer and closer towards being considerably
Speaker 4: more air tight than buildings would have been in the past.
Speaker 4: So ventilation will become an even bigger issue for those
Speaker 4: sorts of buildings. So anyway, the ventilation I think it's
Speaker 4: collab will will be a sort of cross industry body
Speaker 4: that will promote better ventilation in our buildings, which I
Speaker 4: think will be exciting as well. O WA eight one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty, like I say, will be
Speaker 4: the number to call. We'll have time for some of
Speaker 4: your calls after new sport and weather. But as I said,
Speaker 4: we are going to go to Paris for the Olympic
Speaker 4: gold medal ceremony. This is Hamish cur in the high jump.
Speaker 4: Once we finish news, Sport and Weather, I'm also going
Speaker 4: to spend a bit of time chatting with Amanda Stains
Speaker 4: from the Keystone Trust. I was introduced to them at
Speaker 4: a conference a couple of months ago. They are a
Speaker 4: trust that provides scholarship and mentoring to young people to
Speaker 4: give them a bit of a hand up to get
Speaker 4: involved in the property and construction industry. It's not really
Speaker 4: like apprenticeships, but it will support people in that It's
Speaker 4: one of those things that in many cases there may
Speaker 4: well be students who don't have much money that it
Speaker 4: may not have the family support or the industry connections,
Speaker 4: and then getting into property or construction might be a
Speaker 4: little bit difficult how to get a terret tertiary education
Speaker 4: carve out of career. So we're talking with Amanda Stains
Speaker 4: from the Keystone Trust after the break as well. Here
Speaker 4: we go to Paris for the gold medal ceremony.
Speaker 3: Direct moment.
Speaker 11: An Olympic high jump medal ceremony featuring a kiwi. The
Speaker 11: ninth time we're going to hear the New Zealand national
Speaker 11: anthem at these Olympic Games. Never before have there been
Speaker 11: that many to enjoy. And hamous Kerr and the most
Speaker 11: dramatic of circumstances, still struggling to comprehend what we saw
Speaker 11: an hour or so ago when he won a jump
Speaker 11: off against Shelby McEwen to win gold silver in London
Speaker 11: and rio gold shared in Tokyo. And now a bronze
Speaker 11: medal for Mutaza Bashima of Kata, the broad smile for
Speaker 11: Bashem Watt, an ambassador he's been for high jump for
Speaker 11: Olympic Games. Four Olympic medals for Muta's Eser Bashim checks
Speaker 11: the medal out. We've got a couple of these, he says,
Speaker 11: different colors. Here is the American Shelby McEwan, a surprise
Speaker 11: silver medallist. I think for many people, there weren't too
Speaker 11: many tousing his credentials before this competition. But here he
Speaker 11: is a silver medalist, a PB today of two thirty six,
Speaker 11: in second place in the highjup competition. But here's your moment,
Speaker 11: New Zealand, your moment.
Speaker 3: Hamish Kur medalists the words I'm sure he's dreamed of hearing.
Speaker 11: Gold medalist and Olympic champion everything his heart desired. Hamosh
Speaker 11: cur on the top step of the podium with a
Speaker 11: glittering gold medal around his neck and never as a
Speaker 11: high jump gold medal being one and more dramatic fashion
Speaker 11: than Hamish Curves at Paris twenty twenty four, closes his eyes,
Speaker 11: a deep breath and prepares for the national anthem of
Speaker 11: New Zealand.
Speaker 12: If you can stand of New Zealand.
Speaker 11: Ghost bumps for breakfast on your Sunday morning and a
Speaker 11: stirring rendition of New Zealand's national anthem Carrington and Co
Speaker 11: and Kerr can you believe that? And the three medalists
Speaker 11: now on the top step together, medals in mouths. The
Speaker 11: traditional bite on that most precious of metal and most
Speaker 11: precious of all is the one worn by Hamish Kerr
Speaker 11: of New Zealand, Gold medalist, Olympic champion.
Speaker 4: Your news talk ZIB, Let's go to news. Well, it's
Speaker 4: been an exciting morning given that we've been able to
Speaker 4: cross life to Paris for the gold medal ceremony with
Speaker 4: Hamish Kerr. Of course, overnight Lisa Carrington and Lydia Coe
Speaker 4: both achieving gold medals as well. So it's it has
Speaker 4: it's been a fantastic sporting event. We won't mention the
Speaker 4: all blacks perhaps, And I got that because I've just
Speaker 4: texted Amanda, who is our next guest on the program,
Speaker 4: and she raised that. So I'm going to blame you,
Speaker 4: Amanda for raising the all blacks at the stage. Amanda,
Speaker 4: are very very good morning and welcome to the program.
Speaker 15: Good morning. Oh that is so mean. Now I'm going
Speaker 15: to have the entire nation not at all.
Speaker 4: Not at all, Amanda.
Speaker 3: I was at.
Speaker 4: A construction event a little while ago, and a couple
Speaker 4: of young people got up to talk about their experience
Speaker 4: of entering into the construction sector and carving a career
Speaker 4: and something that perhaps in a sector that they'd not
Speaker 4: been introduced to through their families or family connections. And
Speaker 4: then the reason that they were there is because they
Speaker 4: were supported by the Keystone Trust. So tell us about
Speaker 4: the trust and your role with the trust and what
Speaker 4: does the Keystone Trust do for young people?
Speaker 15: Thank you, that's really generous for you to ask. Keystone
Speaker 15: Trust established thirty years ago. We're having our birth day
Speaker 15: this year in October, which is really really quite special.
Speaker 15: So this all goes back to a gentleman called Graham
Speaker 15: Briggins who was a property developer in Wellington. However, he
Speaker 15: began his life as a young lad in Timaru. Parents
Speaker 15: were two Salvation Army officers and so for him, unfortunately
Speaker 15: going on to tertiary education was not part of the plan,
Speaker 15: but he really really wanted to. However, he found his
Speaker 15: way into property, started off life as a car park
Speaker 15: attendant actually, and by the time of his very untimely
Speaker 15: death in nineteen ninety four of February, he had two
Speaker 15: property development companies listed on the New Zealand Stock Exchange.
Speaker 15: His widow Binti, and a couple of his colleagues and
Speaker 15: friends decided that that was not going to be the
Speaker 15: be all and end all of Graham's life, so February
Speaker 15: he passed away. By October they had set up the
Speaker 15: Graham Brigands Property Truck and in nineteen ninety five they
Speaker 15: offered their first two scholarships for tertiary education to two
Speaker 15: students from Fongerdae. Today, thirty years on, three hundred and
Speaker 15: four scholarships later, we are currently with sixty students all
Speaker 15: around the motives and we have sixty four incredible industry
Speaker 15: sponsors who support these students, so first I can work
Speaker 15: out my only in my research. We are the only
Speaker 15: trust that is set up to provide scholarships to young
Speaker 15: people with financial and circumstantial issues. You know, life comes
Speaker 15: with all sorts of baggage at times. But who have
Speaker 15: an absoute passion for property and construction and one to
Speaker 15: study at a tertiary level. So we provide them with
Speaker 15: a three year scholarship. It's about sixteen and a half
Speaker 15: thousand dollars. And talk to any of our alumni and
Speaker 15: may us go, that's amazing, But I think what they
Speaker 15: say on top of that is an experienced mentor. We
Speaker 15: train the mentors from those sixty four sponsor companies to
Speaker 15: support our year two students. You can imagine the network
Speaker 15: that they walk into. You know, they've got companies and
Speaker 15: theirs which just follow them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 15: Well being support because we have a student liaison manager
Speaker 15: who now works with us and helps our students in
Speaker 15: terms of just how do you manage a time? How
Speaker 15: do you get things organized? Because life gets in the way.
Speaker 15: But it's those industry connections, it's the internship opportunities they
Speaker 15: really kick start their careers and then we help them
Speaker 15: into their first job. You know, we're now coming into
Speaker 15: that point for our final year students that we assist
Speaker 15: them into employment, which is really tough because properly and
Speaker 15: construction sectors feeling a little bit, you know, a bit
Speaker 15: fragile at the moment. But it takes the fact that
Speaker 15: our students come along with a gold seal. You know,
Speaker 15: our students and our alumni of which there are now
Speaker 15: over two hundred around the country and internationally. They like
Speaker 15: working for our sponsors because they're all part of the family.
Speaker 15: It's all being they knew that these companies and these
Speaker 15: people had their back while they were a student, and
Speaker 15: now it's their turn to turn around and support them
Speaker 15: and be their amazing employee. Our students learn what the
Speaker 15: sector means because when you go to UNI as you
Speaker 15: can appreciate or to a tertiary provider, you learn your
Speaker 15: respective node and discipline. But when you get out into
Speaker 15: the business world, you have to understand everybody else's business.
Speaker 15: You need to be understand what makes their business tick
Speaker 15: and what they need to get out of a project.
Speaker 15: So for us, we're able to introduce a student who
Speaker 15: might be studying engineering to someone who's doing surveying, to
Speaker 15: someone who's doing construction management, someone who's the architect, someone
Speaker 15: who's the construction company. So they can actually go, ah,
Speaker 15: so if I'm working with a quantity surveyor, this is
Speaker 15: what their role is. This is what they need to
Speaker 15: get out of this project to make it a success
Speaker 15: for the project and also for them in their company.
Speaker 15: So if you can actually have a much more collaborative relationship,
Speaker 15: you go to have a much more relaxed conversation when
Speaker 15: they get a little bit tetchy because you know, they
Speaker 15: do a little bit when it comes to construction projects.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it can be a but combative can't It sometimes can.
Speaker 15: Be, which is why what is amazing is we have
Speaker 15: got some incredible legal sponsors. In fact, one which has
Speaker 15: been with us for thirty years is Bell Gully and
Speaker 15: they have been promoting us and working with us as
Speaker 15: a pro bono sponsor since nineteen ninety four. Bailey's have
Speaker 15: been with us since nineteen ninety four, Stride Property in
Speaker 15: the various guises now Stride with us after thirty years.
Speaker 15: That I think just goes to show how they believe
Speaker 15: in the coppopper of this trust and they believe in
Speaker 15: our students and they love being part of their success, and.
Speaker 4: I understand that at the moment, applications for scholarships are open.
Speaker 4: So who's eligible and how do you apply? I'm just
Speaker 4: thinking about people listening to the show who might have
Speaker 4: a nephew or a niece, or their own children or
Speaker 4: a grandchild or family friend who has perhaps shown that
Speaker 4: interest in the construction and property sector, but maybe has
Speaker 4: grown up in an environment where that's not what is
Speaker 4: talked about at the dinner table and so on. Wants
Speaker 4: to get there, but doesn't quite have the means to
Speaker 4: get there. So how do people apply?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yeah, we find from the vast majority of our students
Speaker 15: they've talked with somebody, maybe it's the careers advisor, maybe
Speaker 15: somebody in their family who's gone, what do you think
Speaker 15: about this, and they've explored it and seen that has
Speaker 15: been a credible opportunity. So yes, we are currently taking
Speaker 15: applications to the first of all s Timber for our
Speaker 15: school leaver scholarships. Applications need to They'll be online through
Speaker 15: our website dub dub dub dot Keystone Trust dot org
Speaker 15: dot MZ.
Speaker 4: To be Keystone Trust dot org dot NZ Perfect please
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 15: Yes, New Zealand citizen or a permanent resident facing financial challenges,
Speaker 15: difficult circumstances. As I say, often those two things come together.
Speaker 15: Minimum of university entrants. You need to be able to
Speaker 15: prove to us that you can study at a tertiary level.
Speaker 15: You need really good written and verbal communication skills because
Speaker 15: as we all know, in this industry, it's all about communication.
Speaker 15: You've got to be able to engage with people, be
Speaker 15: able to talk what's happening to you. You need to
Speaker 15: have the intention of enrolling at a university for next
Speaker 15: year in a property or construction related degree yep. And
Speaker 15: you need tertiary focused and a passion real passions, be
Speaker 15: chosen course in future career. You talk with people, go
Speaker 15: and get some information because all of that needs to
Speaker 15: go into your application form so that we can get
Speaker 15: a sense of who you are and then we will
Speaker 15: be able to have a much more informed conversation with
Speaker 15: you if you get to the application stage. So we
Speaker 15: are offering this year thirteen Study Awards, which is for
Speaker 15: school leaders, and we also have the C three School
Speaker 15: Leaver Scholarship which is for a school leader who is
Speaker 15: studying at either aut massive or unit Tech for a
Speaker 15: degree in construction.
Speaker 4: Fantastic. I'd encourage people to go to the website, and
Speaker 4: also I have to say I'm delighted to having a
Speaker 4: look through some of the people that support you and
Speaker 4: the companies that support you, to recognize some names of
Speaker 4: people that I work with and have worked with. So
Speaker 4: that's fantastic. But it's a great and inspirational website. If
Speaker 4: you want to help out, you can, and if you
Speaker 4: know someone who might fit the criteria, then go to
Speaker 4: Keystone Trust dot org dot NZ and go from their Amanda,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for your time this morning.
Speaker 15: Oh thank you my pleasure to talk with you. Lovely
Speaker 15: at don't trust.
Speaker 4: All the very best. Take care by a good.
Speaker 15: Zib right yo.
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Speaker 9: Zed by.
Speaker 4: Your news talk Sai'd be just about time to jump
Speaker 4: into the garden with a red kline past again. If
Speaker 4: you were tuned in listening with my conversation with Amanda,
Speaker 4: have a look at the Keystone Trust. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I was introduced to them only a couple of months
Speaker 4: ago by some of the people who had gone through
Speaker 4: their program and were now involved in the early stages
Speaker 4: of a career in building surveying. So it's construction and property,
Speaker 4: but the fact that they get that wrap around support
Speaker 4: as well. It's the mentoring, it's the internship and yes,
Speaker 4: it's the money for the scholarships as well. It is remarkable.
Speaker 4: So if you know a young person who might fit
Speaker 4: those criteria and it's you know, the standards. You have
Speaker 4: to achieve a certain standard in order to apply for this.
Speaker 4: But it is open to people who would typically not
Speaker 4: get an opportunity to do tertiary education in the construction
Speaker 4: and property field. So have a look at it. It
Speaker 4: is Keystone Trust dot org dot z And as I
Speaker 4: mentioned to Amanda, if you scroll through and see the
Speaker 4: groups that support them, I'd encourage you to support the
Speaker 4: groups that support them as well. I think they do
Speaker 4: a fantastic job. And it's thirty years you know, this
Speaker 4: is not this is not new and they've done is
Speaker 4: it over three hundred scholarships so far, which is fantastic radio.
Speaker 4: Let's jump into the garden with a climb past. It
Speaker 4: is the number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 4: You can text any questions for it through to nine
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