WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: August 11, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.055 You're listening to the Resident build Up Podcast with Peter 0:00:10.135 --> 0:00:12.055 Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay. 0:00:13.615 --> 0:00:18.335 Even when the grass is overgrown in the yard, and 0:00:18.575 --> 0:00:22.975 even when the dog is too old to bark, and 0:00:23.055 --> 0:00:26.775 when you're sitting at the table trying to start. 0:00:28.335 --> 0:00:34.455 Scissor home, even when we leave a band, even when 0:00:34.575 --> 0:00:36.175 you're there alone. 0:00:43.695 --> 0:00:52.335 You know, houses a home, even when those ghost even 0:00:52.415 --> 0:00:55.855 when you got around from the world you love your most. 0:00:57.255 --> 0:00:59.375 Stream, those broken paints. 0:00:59.095 --> 0:01:04.215 Feeling from the wood, locals wisper when they're going to leave, 0:01:04.295 --> 0:01:11.135 the neighbors, even when we're n. 0:01:12.735 --> 0:01:15.055 Even when you're the long. 0:01:23.575 --> 0:01:25.815 Well, A very good morning and welcome along to the 0:01:25.855 --> 0:01:29.255 Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me, Peter wolf Camp, 0:01:29.295 --> 0:01:33.695 the Resident Builder, and this is your opportunity to ask questions, 0:01:33.695 --> 0:01:38.415 to discuss, to debate, to challenge, to ah just have 0:01:38.455 --> 0:01:41.495 a good old fashioned chin wag about all things building 0:01:41.575 --> 0:01:46.135 and construction. So if you've got a practical question of 0:01:46.295 --> 0:01:48.695 a nature of you know, doors that won't open and 0:01:49.855 --> 0:01:54.375 floors that might squeak, or petitions that are not particularly upright, 0:01:54.575 --> 0:01:56.495 these sorts of things, we can talk about that. If 0:01:56.495 --> 0:02:00.535 you've got a question around building and compliance and regulations, 0:02:00.895 --> 0:02:03.415 all of these sorts of things that are part of 0:02:03.455 --> 0:02:07.175 the building environment as well. We can certainly chat. If 0:02:07.215 --> 0:02:10.415 perhaps you've wandered along as I do, to a hardware 0:02:10.455 --> 0:02:13.575 store and I'm perusing the aisles thinking now which one 0:02:13.615 --> 0:02:15.855 of these is better than which one of those? Then 0:02:15.975 --> 0:02:19.495 we can talk products and I you know, things that 0:02:19.535 --> 0:02:22.015 you need to build with or to do projects with. 0:02:22.255 --> 0:02:24.535 We can do that on this program as well. We 0:02:24.535 --> 0:02:27.375 can talk about those things as well. This gives me 0:02:27.415 --> 0:02:30.775 flashbacks to last week, our first caller talking about table 0:02:30.815 --> 0:02:34.335 saws and choosing tools and that sort of thing. Moren't 0:02:34.335 --> 0:02:37.055 happy actually chat about tools and bits and pieces. I 0:02:37.095 --> 0:02:40.615 had my table saw out yesterday, yesday day before, no 0:02:40.735 --> 0:02:46.655 day before, just making something in the shed, which was 0:02:46.695 --> 0:02:50.775 actually enormously satisfying, like a little bit of shed time, 0:02:50.815 --> 0:02:53.135 a little bit of workshop time in effect, a little 0:02:53.135 --> 0:02:57.095 bit of me time, was delightful. So and also an opportunity. 0:02:57.375 --> 0:03:00.335 I'm a late convert to the whole track saw thing. 0:03:01.335 --> 0:03:03.695 Plenty of trades out there, plenty of people will have 0:03:03.815 --> 0:03:08.095 a track saw. I've always had circular saws, I've always 0:03:08.135 --> 0:03:10.735 had table saw I've always had a bit of aluminium 0:03:10.735 --> 0:03:13.135 that I can clamp down as a straight edge, and 0:03:13.455 --> 0:03:15.455 that's a sort of de facto track saw, but they 0:03:15.455 --> 0:03:17.295 are a little bit flash than that. Anyway, I ended 0:03:17.335 --> 0:03:19.695 up with one a little while ago that Royobi guys 0:03:19.735 --> 0:03:22.815 dropped one off, and I was using that for the 0:03:22.815 --> 0:03:25.295 first time for quite a while in the workshop. It 0:03:25.375 --> 0:03:28.655 was actually very good. I can see why everyone's got 0:03:28.655 --> 0:03:31.415 them on site. So little track saw and what do 0:03:31.495 --> 0:03:36.775 I make? I swapped over printers and so had I 0:03:36.855 --> 0:03:38.895 used to have a little platform underneath the printer where 0:03:38.935 --> 0:03:41.295 I could store the paper. Anyway, I swapped over to 0:03:41.335 --> 0:03:44.335 a printer that does a three one that I used 0:03:44.375 --> 0:03:46.295 to take to work with me, which meant that the 0:03:46.335 --> 0:03:48.255 box that I had was too small. Sorry for the 0:03:48.255 --> 0:03:50.615 long introduction to this, but it kind of makes sense. 0:03:50.695 --> 0:03:53.615 So I thought, right, I'll give that one away and 0:03:53.775 --> 0:03:55.855 it's being used by someone else now. And then I 0:03:55.895 --> 0:03:58.495 needed another little platform that I can put the paper 0:03:58.495 --> 0:04:00.975 in underneath there because my office isn't bring enough blah 0:04:01.015 --> 0:04:02.975 blah blah. And then I thought, I'll make a little 0:04:02.975 --> 0:04:04.575 shelf in it too, and then I can put paperwork 0:04:04.575 --> 0:04:06.295 on top of it. And then I had a foss 0:04:06.455 --> 0:04:09.535 around in the shed found I think it was actually 0:04:09.535 --> 0:04:11.935 an old plywood top from a set of trestle tables 0:04:11.935 --> 0:04:14.895 that I'd fossicked away in the back there, So set 0:04:14.935 --> 0:04:17.015 that through the sword, dimensioned it up, cut it up 0:04:17.015 --> 0:04:21.375 with the little ryobi track, saw sanded it, put it 0:04:21.415 --> 0:04:24.615 all together, gave it a first code of razine clear 0:04:24.695 --> 0:04:28.615 polyurethane yesterday, do some filling last night. I'll give another 0:04:28.615 --> 0:04:30.815 coat of polyurethane and that can go into the workshop 0:04:31.535 --> 0:04:34.895 with me into the office rather after it's had it 0:04:35.015 --> 0:04:36.255 seventy two hours of curing. 0:04:36.375 --> 0:04:36.775 There you go. 0:04:36.935 --> 0:04:39.775 That was a little project that we got underway, right, 0:04:39.895 --> 0:04:43.175 all things building construction. Can I also say I drove 0:04:43.815 --> 0:04:46.415 this morning to work, as I do every Sunday, obviously, 0:04:48.375 --> 0:04:50.615 and on a street leading to where I live, which 0:04:50.615 --> 0:04:53.455 happens to be in Devenport on the shore, and they're 0:04:53.455 --> 0:04:55.775 doing a lot of work on Lake Road, and so 0:04:55.815 --> 0:04:58.335 they've got lots and lots of road cones. This isn't 0:04:58.335 --> 0:05:01.695 a rant about road cones. This is a rampant about 0:05:01.735 --> 0:05:04.495 the muppets that like to knock them over at night time. 0:05:06.495 --> 0:05:09.815 I mean, seriously, what sort of And to be fair, 0:05:09.855 --> 0:05:11.815 I spent a fair amount of time driving in today 0:05:11.855 --> 0:05:14.055 thinking about that, because I was slightly interfered. It's just 0:05:14.095 --> 0:05:17.655 one of those idiot moves. Oh why go and knock 0:05:17.695 --> 0:05:21.295 them over? Someone's got to come out put them all 0:05:21.335 --> 0:05:23.775 back up again. Everyone has to navigate their way through 0:05:24.175 --> 0:05:27.535 a whole set of scattered road cones on what's already 0:05:27.575 --> 0:05:30.655 a relatively narrow access way, given that there's so much 0:05:30.695 --> 0:05:33.615 work happening on the street. What sort of move is that? 0:05:33.615 --> 0:05:35.655 And then I was trying to figure out actually a 0:05:35.695 --> 0:05:39.455 way of describing said people without getting a BSA complaint, 0:05:39.495 --> 0:05:42.335 because typically we have really blunt and direct ways of 0:05:42.375 --> 0:05:44.855 describing such people on building sites, but that language is 0:05:44.895 --> 0:05:47.775 not appropriate here. So I'm still struggling actually to think 0:05:47.815 --> 0:05:49.535 of a better word than well, I think of lots 0:05:49.535 --> 0:05:51.695 of better words. I just can't say them on the 0:05:51.775 --> 0:05:54.735 radio anyway. Don't be a dick and do that. Oh, 0:05:54.815 --> 0:05:56.895 eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 0:05:57.255 --> 0:05:58.055 Let's get into it. 0:05:58.375 --> 0:06:01.015 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is 0:06:01.055 --> 0:06:03.855 the text number. That's z BZB from your mobile phone. 0:06:03.935 --> 0:06:05.855 If you would like to text, you are more than 0:06:05.895 --> 0:06:07.935 welcome to do that. And if you'd like to see 0:06:07.975 --> 0:06:10.015 me an email, you can do that as well. Pete 0:06:10.095 --> 0:06:14.135 at newstalksb dot Co dot N said, we are keeping 0:06:14.175 --> 0:06:17.775 an eye on the high jump, which, to be fair, 0:06:17.935 --> 0:06:21.055 was looking a little bit nerve wracking for Kerr, the 0:06:21.095 --> 0:06:24.815 New Zealand high jumper. But he has cleared the last barrier, 0:06:24.855 --> 0:06:28.335 so I think he's cleared two point three one and 0:06:28.375 --> 0:06:31.135 they've now set the barrier at two point three seven, 0:06:31.455 --> 0:06:33.415 which is kind of a door plus an extra bit. 0:06:34.415 --> 0:06:36.095 That's how I always think about it, because you look 0:06:36.095 --> 0:06:37.935 at this and you go, how hig are they actually jumping? 0:06:37.935 --> 0:06:40.655 And they think, well, a standard doors are nineteen to 0:06:40.655 --> 0:06:43.655 eighty leaf, So then you add a gap underneath it, 0:06:43.935 --> 0:06:48.615 and let's say twenty mil for the jamliner, so you're 0:06:48.615 --> 0:06:52.015 at two meters and then add about a foot there 0:06:52.015 --> 0:06:54.215 you go, how's that for mixing up my measurements. I'll 0:06:54.215 --> 0:06:55.975 go two meters because I know what height to door 0:06:56.015 --> 0:06:57.335 is and they're going to add a foot in there 0:06:57.375 --> 0:07:00.495 because somehow I grew up with feet and inches. That's 0:07:00.535 --> 0:07:03.055 a long way. That's a long way to launch your 0:07:03.095 --> 0:07:06.935 body up and over and not clip anything. So anyway, 0:07:06.935 --> 0:07:08.975 he's doing all right. We'll keep you up to date 0:07:09.015 --> 0:07:10.975 with that, and certainly if he's in the hunt for gold. 0:07:11.335 --> 0:07:13.855 We will definitely will keep you up to date. Oh, 0:07:13.855 --> 0:07:16.535 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty right, lots to talk about. 0:07:16.895 --> 0:07:19.015 Lots of people coming on the show later on as well. 0:07:19.815 --> 0:07:23.175 Our good mate Bryce from Razine he's going to come on. 0:07:23.255 --> 0:07:27.135 So any specific painting questions you might have, you can 0:07:27.175 --> 0:07:29.735 fire those through on the text machine. That's nine to two, 0:07:30.015 --> 0:07:33.855 nine to two, so zbzb from for the text. Bryce 0:07:33.855 --> 0:07:36.415 will be with us seven twenty five, and then after 0:07:36.495 --> 0:07:38.255 eight o'clock we're going to have a quick catch up 0:07:38.295 --> 0:07:41.615 with Amanda Stains. Now she is the CEO I think 0:07:41.895 --> 0:07:44.975 for the Keystone Trust. I'll tell you about the Stone 0:07:44.975 --> 0:07:47.655 Trust a little bit later. And last week on the 0:07:47.655 --> 0:07:50.855 program I mentioned ventilation. I've made a note we will 0:07:50.895 --> 0:07:53.735 definitely talk a little bit about ventilation. But let's rip 0:07:53.735 --> 0:07:56.415 into it because we've got calls a waiting. It is 0:07:56.935 --> 0:07:59.415 fifteen minutes after six and a very good morning to you. 0:07:59.535 --> 0:07:59.775 Ian. 0:08:03.895 --> 0:08:05.055 Hang on, hang on. 0:08:06.775 --> 0:08:08.015 Right, Ian, go for it. 0:08:08.735 --> 0:08:09.415 That sounds better. 0:08:09.535 --> 0:08:09.735 Yeah. 0:08:09.775 --> 0:08:11.295 Look, I've got a spa bath and the scud of 0:08:11.335 --> 0:08:13.855 motor and a pump tucked away nicely underneath. And I 0:08:13.975 --> 0:08:16.695 win that was being built maybe ten years ago. 0:08:16.735 --> 0:08:16.935 Now. 0:08:17.175 --> 0:08:18.535 I said to the builder, Hey, how do I get 0:08:18.535 --> 0:08:20.615 to that? He said, I look, just zip out this 0:08:20.775 --> 0:08:23.775 panel here. It's about a one point five by five 0:08:24.095 --> 0:08:27.215 mil panel of tiles. It's got a silicon seal around it. 0:08:27.295 --> 0:08:31.815 So at Jude formed the pump stopped well back. So 0:08:31.895 --> 0:08:34.615 I got this knife and zipped around the silicon seala, 0:08:34.815 --> 0:08:37.495 and of course it didn't come out, stayed there like 0:08:37.575 --> 0:08:40.655 where it was. And as far as I can tell 0:08:40.975 --> 0:08:44.135 by running a knife along the edges, there's some vertical 0:08:44.415 --> 0:08:46.535 timber behind it, which looks like the supports for the 0:08:46.655 --> 0:08:50.495 bath itself. And I would bet that some Numpton has 0:08:50.495 --> 0:08:55.975 put the magical jib screws through the jib boarder and 0:08:56.455 --> 0:08:58.455 tied it onto the timber before they put the tiles 0:08:58.455 --> 0:09:00.895 on it, not knowing all about the subtlety of the 0:09:01.055 --> 0:09:03.815 silicon sealer. So the question I've got this hall of a. 0:09:04.255 --> 0:09:06.015 Right, What I was going to ask is that you've 0:09:06.055 --> 0:09:08.895 cut around and broken the bond of the ceilant. That's 0:09:08.935 --> 0:09:11.215 not to say there might not be a little bit 0:09:11.295 --> 0:09:15.655 more of a just like a vacuum that's effectively holding 0:09:15.655 --> 0:09:18.135 it on. What are you using to pry that panel 0:09:18.175 --> 0:09:18.495 off with? 0:09:20.095 --> 0:09:23.175 I've got a putty knife which I've sort of get 0:09:23.175 --> 0:09:24.775 in it. It can go right in and places, so 0:09:24.815 --> 0:09:28.055 it goes and maybe feel interest and you try and 0:09:28.135 --> 0:09:29.895 give us an everage, but it doesn't want to go. 0:09:30.015 --> 0:09:32.215 It's it's a little bit more fixed at the ends 0:09:32.215 --> 0:09:36.695 where there's no timber, but we need the timbering. It 0:09:36.695 --> 0:09:38.335 doesn't want to move at all. 0:09:38.455 --> 0:09:42.215 Right, you don't have a mate who's got those suction 0:09:42.495 --> 0:09:45.375 cups that glaziers use by any chance. 0:09:45.455 --> 0:09:47.175 No, that's a thought. That's a thought. You could have 0:09:47.215 --> 0:09:47.975 a look or something like that. 0:09:49.455 --> 0:09:52.735 Now that'll work, okay, if you can sort of get 0:09:52.775 --> 0:09:55.775 a decent seal around them. The problem with the tiles 0:09:55.975 --> 0:09:58.695 is that they will inevitably have grout lines, so you 0:09:58.775 --> 0:10:01.175 may not get as good a vacuum seal on there 0:10:01.215 --> 0:10:03.935 as you'd like. But it's I'm just thinking about giving 0:10:04.015 --> 0:10:06.615 yourself something a little bit more leverage before or you 0:10:06.615 --> 0:10:09.575 start breaking that panel out completely. 0:10:10.295 --> 0:10:12.255 Okay, Well, that's good thoughts. I mean, I guess that 0:10:12.375 --> 0:10:15.295 was my question really was, what's what's a recommended method 0:10:15.695 --> 0:10:17.575 for breaking the tires out nicely and neatly? 0:10:17.615 --> 0:10:19.775 As I say, look, you won't. 0:10:19.615 --> 0:10:22.055 Be able to save the tiles, right, or if you do, 0:10:22.495 --> 0:10:26.695 I've got Yeah, okay, I would look to be fair 0:10:26.775 --> 0:10:29.495 hammer and an old chisel, you know, and just work 0:10:29.535 --> 0:10:32.655 your way in from one side trying. Once you've broken 0:10:32.695 --> 0:10:35.215 away chip chipped a corner off, you can sort of 0:10:35.295 --> 0:10:38.255 drive in between the tile and the substrate and just 0:10:38.295 --> 0:10:43.135 cut through the adhesive. But before I suppose i'd get 0:10:43.175 --> 0:10:45.695 in there with a even like with a pry bar. 0:10:47.415 --> 0:10:50.775 So when you cut through the silicon sealant, do you 0:10:50.775 --> 0:10:54.015 feel that the night the blade goes all the way 0:10:54.055 --> 0:10:57.175 through and into sort of you know, a void behind 0:10:57.735 --> 0:10:58.735 like you can't. 0:11:00.015 --> 0:11:01.295 Yeah, I can put it most of the way along. 0:11:01.335 --> 0:11:03.455 I can put it in. It's spit tight in places, 0:11:03.455 --> 0:11:05.975 but most of the way along I can get it in 0:11:06.935 --> 0:11:08.455 the length of the wood to the length of the blade, 0:11:08.455 --> 0:11:11.175 you know. So I've gone at another forty fifty sixty MILS. 0:11:11.535 --> 0:11:14.775 Other tool that might be quite useful, because to be fair, 0:11:14.975 --> 0:11:16.815 it's always a good idea if you've got an excuse 0:11:16.855 --> 0:11:19.495 to buy more tools. Is a multi tool with a 0:11:19.495 --> 0:11:20.415 cutting blade on it. 0:11:21.575 --> 0:11:23.295 Yeah, I've got one of those. I thought I might 0:11:23.335 --> 0:11:25.495 have a play down the and one of my options 0:11:25.655 --> 0:11:29.615 was to sort of go down there's one. There's a 0:11:29.615 --> 0:11:32.535 couple of there's two tiles eye basic this thing, and 0:11:32.815 --> 0:11:36.015 maybe six or eight tiles wide. I thought I might 0:11:36.055 --> 0:11:39.695 try and go down the go outline of a couple 0:11:39.695 --> 0:11:42.375 of the tiles which have no timber behind them. Yes, 0:11:43.295 --> 0:11:45.375 and then if I can get through the ground, i'd 0:11:45.375 --> 0:11:47.055 go straight through. I have to cut the GiB as 0:11:47.055 --> 0:11:50.535 well behind it and take out a whole tile section 0:11:50.575 --> 0:11:53.055 which would give me a handworth to get in behind. 0:11:53.655 --> 0:11:55.775 And whether I can fix the motor from there, I 0:11:55.775 --> 0:11:58.815 don't know, but I might be then able to perhaps 0:11:58.855 --> 0:12:00.935 turn the renovator around the other way with an angle 0:12:00.975 --> 0:12:03.335 blade and attack any screws that the holding a jib 0:12:03.335 --> 0:12:05.895 onto the timber you're onto it. Go for that sort 0:12:05.895 --> 0:12:08.615 of option. Option A. Yeah, A bit of a mess 0:12:08.615 --> 0:12:11.855 effects up, but that's possible. Tars and the problem I've 0:12:11.855 --> 0:12:12.335 got some more. 0:12:12.615 --> 0:12:15.015 Yeah, and look if you ended up having to make 0:12:15.095 --> 0:12:16.735 just a panel and fixing that neatly. 0:12:16.855 --> 0:12:17.055 Is it? 0:12:17.175 --> 0:12:19.295 Is it obvious with the motorers? Like is it the 0:12:19.335 --> 0:12:21.055 first thing you see when you approach the spar or 0:12:21.135 --> 0:12:21.255 is it? 0:12:22.015 --> 0:12:24.015 I know, I know exactly where the motor is. It's 0:12:24.015 --> 0:12:26.935 just around the corner, right. I don't know why. I 0:12:26.935 --> 0:12:32.735 don't know why the tile panel then' one whatever. 0:12:34.255 --> 0:12:36.055 But I think you're on the right track, and I 0:12:36.095 --> 0:12:38.535 would definitely open up that gap with the multi tool, 0:12:39.255 --> 0:12:40.975 And then, like you say, if you take a panel out, 0:12:40.975 --> 0:12:42.775 then you could also use the multi tool to get 0:12:42.815 --> 0:12:47.335 in behind and separate the substrate the lining from the 0:12:47.375 --> 0:12:50.815 stadi just for some reason they have actually been fastened together. 0:12:51.455 --> 0:12:53.295 So the other thought I had was sort of attack 0:12:53.415 --> 0:12:57.455 some tiles directly where quote the screws should be and 0:12:57.575 --> 0:12:59.255 just under the screws. I'm not sure which is the 0:12:59.255 --> 0:13:01.015 best way to go there with us, just to attempt 0:13:01.055 --> 0:13:02.335 to get the whole thing out as a whole with 0:13:02.695 --> 0:13:06.255 damaged tiles, or take out a section without dammating a title. 0:13:06.495 --> 0:13:08.015 I think if I was going to cut through, i'd 0:13:08.055 --> 0:13:11.175 probably try and cut through around the perimeter of a 0:13:11.255 --> 0:13:14.415 tile where you think there is no timber behind it, 0:13:14.735 --> 0:13:16.335 so that in the end you could lift out one 0:13:16.375 --> 0:13:17.975 piece and then you can get in there and have 0:13:17.975 --> 0:13:21.255 a look around. Yep, yeah, all right, mate, all the 0:13:21.335 --> 0:13:24.375 very best. That sounds like a good Sunday. Take care, 0:13:26.775 --> 0:13:28.935 Maybe wait a little bit later before you start those 0:13:29.255 --> 0:13:34.615 renovator tools. They are quite noisy. Yeah, they can be 0:13:34.695 --> 0:13:38.655 quite noisy. We're hearing protection. Oh Waite hundred eighty ten 0:13:38.695 --> 0:13:40.695 eighty the number to call Dave. A very good morning 0:13:40.695 --> 0:13:45.175 to you. This is weird, this is weird. My finger's 0:13:45.215 --> 0:13:48.775 not working. Hang on there we go, got you now, 0:13:49.295 --> 0:13:52.815 Hello Dave, how are good? Thank you? 0:13:52.815 --> 0:13:53.575 And how are you? 0:13:54.775 --> 0:13:55.015 Yeah? 0:13:55.055 --> 0:13:55.615 Not for bad? 0:13:56.455 --> 0:13:58.895 Yeah, So I don't want to bore you as too 0:13:58.975 --> 0:14:02.295 many details, but we've got me more partner for a 0:14:02.575 --> 0:14:05.735 new build place. It wasn't off the plans because it 0:14:05.775 --> 0:14:09.895 was kind of like half built. Yeah, ended up sort 0:14:09.895 --> 0:14:13.015 of signing the sound purchase. But once it was finished, 0:14:13.335 --> 0:14:15.895 there was a lot of issues that we found in 0:14:15.935 --> 0:14:21.175 the pre sediment inspection, like just workmanship issues, and there's 0:14:21.215 --> 0:14:25.975 a lot of problems with it where the developer's not 0:14:26.015 --> 0:14:29.335 really being very good at fixing them within that twelve 0:14:29.375 --> 0:14:33.735 month period. Anyway, We've had a lot of back and 0:14:33.855 --> 0:14:38.535 forth and gotten in real estate agencies involved, and nothing's 0:14:38.575 --> 0:14:43.655 really working. So I've Filder playing with the dispute tribunal 0:14:43.655 --> 0:14:47.415 and there's a bunch of things like paint quality and 0:14:47.495 --> 0:14:49.695 like jip stopping quality and all that sort of thing. 0:14:49.775 --> 0:14:53.895 But my question is is so the house has got 0:14:54.655 --> 0:14:57.535 off It was specified in the spec sheet and in 0:14:57.695 --> 0:15:01.335 the renderings in the building consent plans that they would 0:15:01.415 --> 0:15:06.695 put aluminium lovers on the two front facing windows of property. 0:15:06.895 --> 0:15:07.015 Yes. 0:15:08.495 --> 0:15:13.095 The second thing is that it's kind of built into 0:15:13.175 --> 0:15:16.615 a slope section, so they've done a lot of retaining 0:15:16.975 --> 0:15:20.215 block wall, retaining at the bottom of the house built it, 0:15:21.775 --> 0:15:24.895 and on the spec sheet, on the spec sheet it 0:15:24.975 --> 0:15:29.095 specified that the block wall would be plasted with a 0:15:29.175 --> 0:15:32.495 razine brought up I think it was called in Tigre 0:15:32.695 --> 0:15:38.655 or something, And it doesn't specify the actual product and 0:15:38.775 --> 0:15:41.495 the consent plans, but it does and the rendering have 0:15:42.415 --> 0:15:47.175 clearly has like some sort of you know, plaster finish 0:15:47.335 --> 0:15:48.695 on the block. 0:15:48.495 --> 0:15:51.455 Wall on the exterior of the block wall, and I 0:15:51.535 --> 0:15:54.135 presume on the block wall above ground level. 0:15:56.335 --> 0:16:00.095 Yeah, that's correct. Yes, because the blockwall kind of is 0:16:01.015 --> 0:16:03.655 all over the ground floor of the house. It makes 0:16:03.695 --> 0:16:06.575 it like a three story house. The block wall kind 0:16:06.615 --> 0:16:11.055 of like supporting that the bottom part of the house. 0:16:12.495 --> 0:16:14.895 So my question has is those two things, like the 0:16:14.975 --> 0:16:20.215 louvers and the finish of the of the block workers. 0:16:20.255 --> 0:16:26.895 It's basically just bear at the moment and do you 0:16:26.975 --> 0:16:31.375 have any elite to stand on when they've specified in 0:16:31.415 --> 0:16:33.775 the specially and the building consent plans that it would 0:16:33.815 --> 0:16:35.575 be plastered. 0:16:35.975 --> 0:16:40.215 Yes, yeah, I think that you should have a reasonable claim. 0:16:40.375 --> 0:16:44.615 So the way I've always come to see building consents 0:16:44.695 --> 0:16:48.855 these days is are they are effectively a contract. Right, 0:16:49.255 --> 0:16:52.135 So what's on the building consent is what has to 0:16:52.215 --> 0:16:57.935 be built, and you can change it, but then you 0:16:58.015 --> 0:17:03.775 have to track that change as well. I If, for example, 0:17:03.815 --> 0:17:07.735 something that is removed or substituted and it will an 0:17:07.815 --> 0:17:10.415 item that is part of the building consent, then that 0:17:10.535 --> 0:17:14.175 should be changed with either a minor variation or an amendment, 0:17:14.455 --> 0:17:17.255 and you can track all of those changes. I presume 0:17:17.295 --> 0:17:23.175 the house has a Code Compliance Certificate. Yes it does, okay, 0:17:23.215 --> 0:17:25.175 all right, so it's had its final inspection and it's 0:17:25.175 --> 0:17:30.815 had its CCC. The fact that like the render on 0:17:30.855 --> 0:17:35.015 the exterior of the block work is probably their sense. 0:17:35.175 --> 0:17:36.775 I mean, I think it's a good idea and it 0:17:36.815 --> 0:17:38.775 allows you to paint it and that will allow you 0:17:38.815 --> 0:17:42.255 to make it more weather proof, but it's probably not 0:17:42.455 --> 0:17:46.615 integral to the overall performance of the building, so that 0:17:46.735 --> 0:17:49.255 might be a little bit of a challenging one that 0:17:49.335 --> 0:17:52.895 becomes a contract issue there. Well, I'm interested to hear 0:17:52.935 --> 0:17:56.495 that they didn't install the aluminum lovers on the front 0:17:56.535 --> 0:17:59.335 because I suspect that that's part of their resource consent 0:17:59.855 --> 0:18:05.535 and that will be about either privacy or potentially it'll 0:18:05.535 --> 0:18:08.415 be about shape, and so it'll be part of the 0:18:08.415 --> 0:18:11.095 design of the building. So the fact that they are 0:18:11.135 --> 0:18:15.255 not installed and they were clearly on the on the plans, 0:18:16.935 --> 0:18:18.815 in some ways I'm a little bit surprised that the 0:18:18.935 --> 0:18:21.815 final inspection didn't pick that up right, Like I wouldn't 0:18:21.815 --> 0:18:25.215 have thought the building should get a cc if something's missing. 0:18:26.455 --> 0:18:27.095 It's funny you. 0:18:27.015 --> 0:18:30.335 Say that because the resource consent isn't actually fully signed 0:18:30.335 --> 0:18:30.735 off yet. 0:18:31.175 --> 0:18:39.215 Ah okay, then can you get a CCC without the 0:18:39.255 --> 0:18:40.935 resource consent being signed off? 0:18:41.815 --> 0:18:43.415 Apparently, says I've seen it. 0:18:43.855 --> 0:18:46.935 Yeah, no, you're right, I think you can. But yes, 0:18:47.015 --> 0:18:50.615 the resource consent should be signed off. And maybe that's 0:18:50.655 --> 0:18:53.095 the thing they haven't done. That it's on the resource 0:18:53.135 --> 0:18:56.655 consent and it hasn't been done. And hopefully and maybe 0:18:56.695 --> 0:18:59.015 the developers thinking, oh if I just ignore a little 0:18:59.055 --> 0:19:01.495 go away and it won't which is good. So that 0:19:01.855 --> 0:19:05.175 that's a really strong position for you to be in 0:19:05.535 --> 0:19:08.775 the fact that the resource consent has not been signed off. 0:19:09.175 --> 0:19:14.575 The other thing is that when was the construction finished? 0:19:17.295 --> 0:19:22.015 Rough maybe like no October or November. 0:19:21.775 --> 0:19:24.535 Okay, last year, all right, now somewhere along the line, 0:19:24.535 --> 0:19:26.535 and you'll go through the property or through the file 0:19:26.695 --> 0:19:29.775 and you'll see the name of the LBP that's been 0:19:29.775 --> 0:19:32.215 assigned to it, particularly in terms of the actual main 0:19:32.295 --> 0:19:37.655 contractor or the person responsible for the structural work. So 0:19:37.695 --> 0:19:40.855 there'll be an LBP. This is the sort of thing 0:19:40.975 --> 0:19:44.895 if you find you're not getting a professional response from 0:19:44.895 --> 0:19:48.695 the LBP is to go to the disciplinary board, so 0:19:48.775 --> 0:19:52.895 the Licensed Building Practitioner Disciplinary Board, because there is now 0:19:52.935 --> 0:19:59.015 a code of Ethics for lbps, right, and that's around 0:19:59.135 --> 0:20:04.895 you know, informing people working professionally, having good communication, those 0:20:04.895 --> 0:20:06.815 sorts of things. So have a look for that online, 0:20:06.855 --> 0:20:10.055 go to LBP Code of Ethics and it'll bring up 0:20:10.095 --> 0:20:13.895 all of that information for you. That would be a 0:20:15.135 --> 0:20:16.415 that gives you a bit of leverage. 0:20:17.455 --> 0:20:20.095 Where would you find them the number of CCC. 0:20:20.575 --> 0:20:24.375 Oh, yeah, if you go yes on the CCC application form, 0:20:24.895 --> 0:20:31.895 it should have record of works from people like yeah, 0:20:31.935 --> 0:20:35.735 it'll have the LBP details on there. And remember and 0:20:35.815 --> 0:20:40.735 that LBP may not necessarily be the developer. It may 0:20:40.775 --> 0:20:45.095 not necessarily be the main contractor. But if as an LBP, 0:20:45.375 --> 0:20:47.535 like I'm an LBP, if I put my name to it, 0:20:47.575 --> 0:20:51.015 I'm responsible for it, right and and so you can 0:20:51.175 --> 0:20:51.975 leverage off that. 0:20:53.655 --> 0:20:54.255 Right, Okay. 0:20:54.455 --> 0:20:58.775 Yeah, And I think going to the dispute tribunal in 0:20:58.815 --> 0:21:01.295 the way that you're intending is probably a good idea. 0:21:01.375 --> 0:21:02.495 It does get. 0:21:02.255 --> 0:21:07.415 Tricky around, you know, workmanship, because there is a guide 0:21:07.495 --> 0:21:11.335 to tolerances and a guide to defects. So make sure 0:21:11.335 --> 0:21:15.175 that you are that you know what the rules are 0:21:15.415 --> 0:21:18.295 and what the standards are, and that the work does 0:21:18.415 --> 0:21:24.095 actually is less than what was reasonably expected. And I 0:21:24.095 --> 0:21:26.775 only say that because I know someone who's involved in 0:21:26.895 --> 0:21:32.095 a case recently where their work was actually okay and 0:21:32.175 --> 0:21:34.615 met the standards. In fact was better than okay. It 0:21:34.695 --> 0:21:37.175 was just they were dealing with a client who was 0:21:39.535 --> 0:21:44.055