1
00:00:06,855 --> 00:00:10,055
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up Podcast with Peter

2
00:00:10,135 --> 00:00:12,055
Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay.

3
00:00:13,615 --> 00:00:18,335
Speaker 2: Even when the grass is overgrown in the yard, and

4
00:00:18,575 --> 00:00:22,975
Speaker 2: even when the dog is too old to bark, and

5
00:00:23,055 --> 00:00:26,775
Speaker 2: when you're sitting at the table trying to start.

6
00:00:28,335 --> 00:00:34,455
Speaker 3: Scissor home, even when we leave a band, even when

7
00:00:34,575 --> 00:00:36,175
Speaker 3: you're there alone.

8
00:00:43,695 --> 00:00:52,335
Speaker 2: You know, houses a home, even when those ghost even

9
00:00:52,415 --> 00:00:55,855
Speaker 2: when you got around from the world you love your most.

10
00:00:57,255 --> 00:00:59,375
Speaker 3: Stream, those broken paints.

11
00:00:59,095 --> 00:01:04,215
Speaker 2: Feeling from the wood, locals wisper when they're going to leave,

12
00:01:04,295 --> 00:01:11,135
Speaker 2: the neighbors, even when we're n.

13
00:01:12,735 --> 00:01:15,055
Speaker 3: Even when you're the long.

14
00:01:23,575 --> 00:01:25,815
Speaker 4: Well, A very good morning and welcome along to the

15
00:01:25,855 --> 00:01:29,255
Speaker 4: Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me, Peter wolf Camp,

16
00:01:29,295 --> 00:01:33,695
Speaker 4: the Resident Builder, and this is your opportunity to ask questions,

17
00:01:33,695 --> 00:01:38,415
Speaker 4: to discuss, to debate, to challenge, to ah just have

18
00:01:38,455 --> 00:01:41,495
Speaker 4: a good old fashioned chin wag about all things building

19
00:01:41,575 --> 00:01:46,135
Speaker 4: and construction. So if you've got a practical question of

20
00:01:46,295 --> 00:01:48,695
Speaker 4: a nature of you know, doors that won't open and

21
00:01:49,855 --> 00:01:54,375
Speaker 4: floors that might squeak, or petitions that are not particularly upright,

22
00:01:54,575 --> 00:01:56,495
Speaker 4: these sorts of things, we can talk about that. If

23
00:01:56,495 --> 00:02:00,535
Speaker 4: you've got a question around building and compliance and regulations,

24
00:02:00,895 --> 00:02:03,415
Speaker 4: all of these sorts of things that are part of

25
00:02:03,455 --> 00:02:07,175
Speaker 4: the building environment as well. We can certainly chat. If

26
00:02:07,215 --> 00:02:10,415
Speaker 4: perhaps you've wandered along as I do, to a hardware

27
00:02:10,455 --> 00:02:13,575
Speaker 4: store and I'm perusing the aisles thinking now which one

28
00:02:13,615 --> 00:02:15,855
Speaker 4: of these is better than which one of those? Then

29
00:02:15,975 --> 00:02:19,495
Speaker 4: we can talk products and I you know, things that

30
00:02:19,535 --> 00:02:22,015
Speaker 4: you need to build with or to do projects with.

31
00:02:22,255 --> 00:02:24,535
Speaker 4: We can do that on this program as well. We

32
00:02:24,535 --> 00:02:27,375
Speaker 4: can talk about those things as well. This gives me

33
00:02:27,415 --> 00:02:30,775
Speaker 4: flashbacks to last week, our first caller talking about table

34
00:02:30,815 --> 00:02:34,335
Speaker 4: saws and choosing tools and that sort of thing. Moren't

35
00:02:34,335 --> 00:02:37,055
Speaker 4: happy actually chat about tools and bits and pieces. I

36
00:02:37,095 --> 00:02:40,615
Speaker 4: had my table saw out yesterday, yesday day before, no

37
00:02:40,735 --> 00:02:46,655
Speaker 4: day before, just making something in the shed, which was

38
00:02:46,695 --> 00:02:50,775
Speaker 4: actually enormously satisfying, like a little bit of shed time,

39
00:02:50,815 --> 00:02:53,135
Speaker 4: a little bit of workshop time in effect, a little

40
00:02:53,135 --> 00:02:57,095
Speaker 4: bit of me time, was delightful. So and also an opportunity.

41
00:02:57,375 --> 00:03:00,335
Speaker 4: I'm a late convert to the whole track saw thing.

42
00:03:01,335 --> 00:03:03,695
Speaker 4: Plenty of trades out there, plenty of people will have

43
00:03:03,815 --> 00:03:08,095
Speaker 4: a track saw. I've always had circular saws, I've always

44
00:03:08,135 --> 00:03:10,735
Speaker 4: had table saw I've always had a bit of aluminium

45
00:03:10,735 --> 00:03:13,135
Speaker 4: that I can clamp down as a straight edge, and

46
00:03:13,455 --> 00:03:15,455
Speaker 4: that's a sort of de facto track saw, but they

47
00:03:15,455 --> 00:03:17,295
Speaker 4: are a little bit flash than that. Anyway, I ended

48
00:03:17,335 --> 00:03:19,695
Speaker 4: up with one a little while ago that Royobi guys

49
00:03:19,735 --> 00:03:22,815
Speaker 4: dropped one off, and I was using that for the

50
00:03:22,815 --> 00:03:25,295
Speaker 4: first time for quite a while in the workshop. It

51
00:03:25,375 --> 00:03:28,655
Speaker 4: was actually very good. I can see why everyone's got

52
00:03:28,655 --> 00:03:31,415
Speaker 4: them on site. So little track saw and what do

53
00:03:31,495 --> 00:03:36,775
Speaker 4: I make? I swapped over printers and so had I

54
00:03:36,855 --> 00:03:38,895
Speaker 4: used to have a little platform underneath the printer where

55
00:03:38,935 --> 00:03:41,295
Speaker 4: I could store the paper. Anyway, I swapped over to

56
00:03:41,335 --> 00:03:44,335
Speaker 4: a printer that does a three one that I used

57
00:03:44,375 --> 00:03:46,295
Speaker 4: to take to work with me, which meant that the

58
00:03:46,335 --> 00:03:48,255
Speaker 4: box that I had was too small. Sorry for the

59
00:03:48,255 --> 00:03:50,615
Speaker 4: long introduction to this, but it kind of makes sense.

60
00:03:50,695 --> 00:03:53,615
Speaker 4: So I thought, right, I'll give that one away and

61
00:03:53,775 --> 00:03:55,855
Speaker 4: it's being used by someone else now. And then I

62
00:03:55,895 --> 00:03:58,495
Speaker 4: needed another little platform that I can put the paper

63
00:03:58,495 --> 00:04:00,975
Speaker 4: in underneath there because my office isn't bring enough blah

64
00:04:01,015 --> 00:04:02,975
Speaker 4: blah blah. And then I thought, I'll make a little

65
00:04:02,975 --> 00:04:04,575
Speaker 4: shelf in it too, and then I can put paperwork

66
00:04:04,575 --> 00:04:06,295
Speaker 4: on top of it. And then I had a foss

67
00:04:06,455 --> 00:04:09,535
Speaker 4: around in the shed found I think it was actually

68
00:04:09,535 --> 00:04:11,935
Speaker 4: an old plywood top from a set of trestle tables

69
00:04:11,935 --> 00:04:14,895
Speaker 4: that I'd fossicked away in the back there, So set

70
00:04:14,935 --> 00:04:17,015
Speaker 4: that through the sword, dimensioned it up, cut it up

71
00:04:17,015 --> 00:04:21,375
Speaker 4: with the little ryobi track, saw sanded it, put it

72
00:04:21,415 --> 00:04:24,615
Speaker 4: all together, gave it a first code of razine clear

73
00:04:24,695 --> 00:04:28,615
Speaker 4: polyurethane yesterday, do some filling last night. I'll give another

74
00:04:28,615 --> 00:04:30,815
Speaker 4: coat of polyurethane and that can go into the workshop

75
00:04:31,535 --> 00:04:34,895
Speaker 4: with me into the office rather after it's had it

76
00:04:35,015 --> 00:04:36,255
Speaker 4: seventy two hours of curing.

77
00:04:36,375 --> 00:04:36,775
Speaker 3: There you go.

78
00:04:36,935 --> 00:04:39,775
Speaker 4: That was a little project that we got underway, right,

79
00:04:39,895 --> 00:04:43,175
Speaker 4: all things building construction. Can I also say I drove

80
00:04:43,815 --> 00:04:46,415
Speaker 4: this morning to work, as I do every Sunday, obviously,

81
00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:50,615
Speaker 4: and on a street leading to where I live, which

82
00:04:50,615 --> 00:04:53,455
Speaker 4: happens to be in Devenport on the shore, and they're

83
00:04:53,455 --> 00:04:55,775
Speaker 4: doing a lot of work on Lake Road, and so

84
00:04:55,815 --> 00:04:58,335
Speaker 4: they've got lots and lots of road cones. This isn't

85
00:04:58,335 --> 00:05:01,695
Speaker 4: a rant about road cones. This is a rampant about

86
00:05:01,735 --> 00:05:04,495
Speaker 4: the muppets that like to knock them over at night time.

87
00:05:06,495 --> 00:05:09,815
Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, what sort of And to be fair,

88
00:05:09,855 --> 00:05:11,815
Speaker 4: I spent a fair amount of time driving in today

89
00:05:11,855 --> 00:05:14,055
Speaker 4: thinking about that, because I was slightly interfered. It's just

90
00:05:14,095 --> 00:05:17,655
Speaker 4: one of those idiot moves. Oh why go and knock

91
00:05:17,695 --> 00:05:21,295
Speaker 4: them over? Someone's got to come out put them all

92
00:05:21,335 --> 00:05:23,775
Speaker 4: back up again. Everyone has to navigate their way through

93
00:05:24,175 --> 00:05:27,535
Speaker 4: a whole set of scattered road cones on what's already

94
00:05:27,575 --> 00:05:30,655
Speaker 4: a relatively narrow access way, given that there's so much

95
00:05:30,695 --> 00:05:33,615
Speaker 4: work happening on the street. What sort of move is that?

96
00:05:33,615 --> 00:05:35,655
Speaker 4: And then I was trying to figure out actually a

97
00:05:35,695 --> 00:05:39,455
Speaker 4: way of describing said people without getting a BSA complaint,

98
00:05:39,495 --> 00:05:42,335
Speaker 4: because typically we have really blunt and direct ways of

99
00:05:42,375 --> 00:05:44,855
Speaker 4: describing such people on building sites, but that language is

100
00:05:44,895 --> 00:05:47,775
Speaker 4: not appropriate here. So I'm still struggling actually to think

101
00:05:47,815 --> 00:05:49,535
Speaker 4: of a better word than well, I think of lots

102
00:05:49,535 --> 00:05:51,695
Speaker 4: of better words. I just can't say them on the

103
00:05:51,775 --> 00:05:54,735
Speaker 4: radio anyway. Don't be a dick and do that. Oh,

104
00:05:54,815 --> 00:05:56,895
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

105
00:05:57,255 --> 00:05:58,055
Speaker 3: Let's get into it.

106
00:05:58,375 --> 00:06:01,015
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is

107
00:06:01,055 --> 00:06:03,855
Speaker 4: the text number. That's z BZB from your mobile phone.

108
00:06:03,935 --> 00:06:05,855
Speaker 4: If you would like to text, you are more than

109
00:06:05,895 --> 00:06:07,935
Speaker 4: welcome to do that. And if you'd like to see

110
00:06:07,975 --> 00:06:10,015
Speaker 4: me an email, you can do that as well. Pete

111
00:06:10,095 --> 00:06:14,135
Speaker 4: at newstalksb dot Co dot N said, we are keeping

112
00:06:14,175 --> 00:06:17,775
Speaker 4: an eye on the high jump, which, to be fair,

113
00:06:17,935 --> 00:06:21,055
Speaker 4: was looking a little bit nerve wracking for Kerr, the

114
00:06:21,095 --> 00:06:24,815
Speaker 4: New Zealand high jumper. But he has cleared the last barrier,

115
00:06:24,855 --> 00:06:28,335
Speaker 4: so I think he's cleared two point three one and

116
00:06:28,375 --> 00:06:31,135
Speaker 4: they've now set the barrier at two point three seven,

117
00:06:31,455 --> 00:06:33,415
Speaker 4: which is kind of a door plus an extra bit.

118
00:06:34,415 --> 00:06:36,095
Speaker 4: That's how I always think about it, because you look

119
00:06:36,095 --> 00:06:37,935
Speaker 4: at this and you go, how hig are they actually jumping?

120
00:06:37,935 --> 00:06:40,655
Speaker 4: And they think, well, a standard doors are nineteen to

121
00:06:40,655 --> 00:06:43,655
Speaker 4: eighty leaf, So then you add a gap underneath it,

122
00:06:43,935 --> 00:06:48,615
Speaker 4: and let's say twenty mil for the jamliner, so you're

123
00:06:48,615 --> 00:06:52,015
Speaker 4: at two meters and then add about a foot there

124
00:06:52,015 --> 00:06:54,215
Speaker 4: you go, how's that for mixing up my measurements. I'll

125
00:06:54,215 --> 00:06:55,975
Speaker 4: go two meters because I know what height to door

126
00:06:56,015 --> 00:06:57,335
Speaker 4: is and they're going to add a foot in there

127
00:06:57,375 --> 00:07:00,495
Speaker 4: because somehow I grew up with feet and inches. That's

128
00:07:00,535 --> 00:07:03,055
Speaker 4: a long way. That's a long way to launch your

129
00:07:03,095 --> 00:07:06,935
Speaker 4: body up and over and not clip anything. So anyway,

130
00:07:06,935 --> 00:07:08,975
Speaker 4: he's doing all right. We'll keep you up to date

131
00:07:09,015 --> 00:07:10,975
Speaker 4: with that, and certainly if he's in the hunt for gold.

132
00:07:11,335 --> 00:07:13,855
Speaker 4: We will definitely will keep you up to date. Oh,

133
00:07:13,855 --> 00:07:16,535
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty right, lots to talk about.

134
00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:19,015
Speaker 4: Lots of people coming on the show later on as well.

135
00:07:19,815 --> 00:07:23,175
Speaker 4: Our good mate Bryce from Razine he's going to come on.

136
00:07:23,255 --> 00:07:27,135
Speaker 4: So any specific painting questions you might have, you can

137
00:07:27,175 --> 00:07:29,735
Speaker 4: fire those through on the text machine. That's nine to two,

138
00:07:30,015 --> 00:07:33,855
Speaker 4: nine to two, so zbzb from for the text. Bryce

139
00:07:33,855 --> 00:07:36,415
Speaker 4: will be with us seven twenty five, and then after

140
00:07:36,495 --> 00:07:38,255
Speaker 4: eight o'clock we're going to have a quick catch up

141
00:07:38,295 --> 00:07:41,615
Speaker 4: with Amanda Stains. Now she is the CEO I think

142
00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,975
Speaker 4: for the Keystone Trust. I'll tell you about the Stone

143
00:07:44,975 --> 00:07:47,655
Speaker 4: Trust a little bit later. And last week on the

144
00:07:47,655 --> 00:07:50,855
Speaker 4: program I mentioned ventilation. I've made a note we will

145
00:07:50,895 --> 00:07:53,735
Speaker 4: definitely talk a little bit about ventilation. But let's rip

146
00:07:53,735 --> 00:07:56,415
Speaker 4: into it because we've got calls a waiting. It is

147
00:07:56,935 --> 00:07:59,415
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes after six and a very good morning to you.

148
00:07:59,535 --> 00:07:59,775
Speaker 3: Ian.

149
00:08:03,895 --> 00:08:05,055
Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on.

150
00:08:06,775 --> 00:08:08,015
Speaker 3: Right, Ian, go for it.

151
00:08:08,735 --> 00:08:09,415
Speaker 5: That sounds better.

152
00:08:09,535 --> 00:08:09,735
Speaker 3: Yeah.

153
00:08:09,775 --> 00:08:11,295
Speaker 5: Look, I've got a spa bath and the scud of

154
00:08:11,335 --> 00:08:13,855
Speaker 5: motor and a pump tucked away nicely underneath. And I

155
00:08:13,975 --> 00:08:16,695
Speaker 5: win that was being built maybe ten years ago.

156
00:08:16,735 --> 00:08:16,935
Speaker 6: Now.

157
00:08:17,175 --> 00:08:18,535
Speaker 5: I said to the builder, Hey, how do I get

158
00:08:18,535 --> 00:08:20,615
Speaker 5: to that? He said, I look, just zip out this

159
00:08:20,775 --> 00:08:23,775
Speaker 5: panel here. It's about a one point five by five

160
00:08:24,095 --> 00:08:27,215
Speaker 5: mil panel of tiles. It's got a silicon seal around it.

161
00:08:27,295 --> 00:08:31,815
Speaker 5: So at Jude formed the pump stopped well back. So

162
00:08:31,895 --> 00:08:34,615
Speaker 5: I got this knife and zipped around the silicon seala,

163
00:08:34,815 --> 00:08:37,495
Speaker 5: and of course it didn't come out, stayed there like

164
00:08:37,575 --> 00:08:40,655
Speaker 5: where it was. And as far as I can tell

165
00:08:40,975 --> 00:08:44,135
Speaker 5: by running a knife along the edges, there's some vertical

166
00:08:44,415 --> 00:08:46,535
Speaker 5: timber behind it, which looks like the supports for the

167
00:08:46,655 --> 00:08:50,495
Speaker 5: bath itself. And I would bet that some Numpton has

168
00:08:50,495 --> 00:08:55,975
Speaker 5: put the magical jib screws through the jib boarder and

169
00:08:56,455 --> 00:08:58,455
Speaker 5: tied it onto the timber before they put the tiles

170
00:08:58,455 --> 00:09:00,895
Speaker 5: on it, not knowing all about the subtlety of the

171
00:09:01,055 --> 00:09:03,815
Speaker 5: silicon sealer. So the question I've got this hall of a.

172
00:09:04,255 --> 00:09:06,015
Speaker 4: Right, What I was going to ask is that you've

173
00:09:06,055 --> 00:09:08,895
Speaker 4: cut around and broken the bond of the ceilant. That's

174
00:09:08,935 --> 00:09:11,215
Speaker 4: not to say there might not be a little bit

175
00:09:11,295 --> 00:09:15,655
Speaker 4: more of a just like a vacuum that's effectively holding

176
00:09:15,655 --> 00:09:18,135
Speaker 4: it on. What are you using to pry that panel

177
00:09:18,175 --> 00:09:18,495
Speaker 4: off with?

178
00:09:20,095 --> 00:09:23,175
Speaker 5: I've got a putty knife which I've sort of get

179
00:09:23,175 --> 00:09:24,775
Speaker 5: in it. It can go right in and places, so

180
00:09:24,815 --> 00:09:28,055
Speaker 5: it goes and maybe feel interest and you try and

181
00:09:28,135 --> 00:09:29,895
Speaker 5: give us an everage, but it doesn't want to go.

182
00:09:30,015 --> 00:09:32,215
Speaker 5: It's it's a little bit more fixed at the ends

183
00:09:32,215 --> 00:09:36,695
Speaker 5: where there's no timber, but we need the timbering. It

184
00:09:36,695 --> 00:09:38,335
Speaker 5: doesn't want to move at all.

185
00:09:38,455 --> 00:09:42,215
Speaker 4: Right, you don't have a mate who's got those suction

186
00:09:42,495 --> 00:09:45,375
Speaker 4: cups that glaziers use by any chance.

187
00:09:45,455 --> 00:09:47,175
Speaker 5: No, that's a thought. That's a thought. You could have

188
00:09:47,215 --> 00:09:47,975
Speaker 5: a look or something like that.

189
00:09:49,455 --> 00:09:52,735
Speaker 4: Now that'll work, okay, if you can sort of get

190
00:09:52,775 --> 00:09:55,775
Speaker 4: a decent seal around them. The problem with the tiles

191
00:09:55,975 --> 00:09:58,695
Speaker 4: is that they will inevitably have grout lines, so you

192
00:09:58,775 --> 00:10:01,175
Speaker 4: may not get as good a vacuum seal on there

193
00:10:01,215 --> 00:10:03,935
Speaker 4: as you'd like. But it's I'm just thinking about giving

194
00:10:04,015 --> 00:10:06,615
Speaker 4: yourself something a little bit more leverage before or you

195
00:10:06,615 --> 00:10:09,575
Speaker 4: start breaking that panel out completely.

196
00:10:10,295 --> 00:10:12,255
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that's good thoughts. I mean, I guess that

197
00:10:12,375 --> 00:10:15,295
Speaker 5: was my question really was, what's what's a recommended method

198
00:10:15,695 --> 00:10:17,575
Speaker 5: for breaking the tires out nicely and neatly?

199
00:10:17,615 --> 00:10:19,775
Speaker 7: As I say, look, you won't.

200
00:10:19,615 --> 00:10:22,055
Speaker 4: Be able to save the tiles, right, or if you do,

201
00:10:22,495 --> 00:10:26,695
Speaker 4: I've got Yeah, okay, I would look to be fair

202
00:10:26,775 --> 00:10:29,495
Speaker 4: hammer and an old chisel, you know, and just work

203
00:10:29,535 --> 00:10:32,655
Speaker 4: your way in from one side trying. Once you've broken

204
00:10:32,695 --> 00:10:35,215
Speaker 4: away chip chipped a corner off, you can sort of

205
00:10:35,295 --> 00:10:38,255
Speaker 4: drive in between the tile and the substrate and just

206
00:10:38,295 --> 00:10:43,135
Speaker 4: cut through the adhesive. But before I suppose i'd get

207
00:10:43,175 --> 00:10:45,695
Speaker 4: in there with a even like with a pry bar.

208
00:10:47,415 --> 00:10:50,775
Speaker 4: So when you cut through the silicon sealant, do you

209
00:10:50,775 --> 00:10:54,015
Speaker 4: feel that the night the blade goes all the way

210
00:10:54,055 --> 00:10:57,175
Speaker 4: through and into sort of you know, a void behind

211
00:10:57,735 --> 00:10:58,735
Speaker 4: like you can't.

212
00:11:00,015 --> 00:11:01,295
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can put it most of the way along.

213
00:11:01,335 --> 00:11:03,455
Speaker 5: I can put it in. It's spit tight in places,

214
00:11:03,455 --> 00:11:05,975
Speaker 5: but most of the way along I can get it in

215
00:11:06,935 --> 00:11:08,455
Speaker 5: the length of the wood to the length of the blade,

216
00:11:08,455 --> 00:11:11,175
Speaker 5: you know. So I've gone at another forty fifty sixty MILS.

217
00:11:11,535 --> 00:11:14,775
Speaker 4: Other tool that might be quite useful, because to be fair,

218
00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:16,815
Speaker 4: it's always a good idea if you've got an excuse

219
00:11:16,855 --> 00:11:19,495
Speaker 4: to buy more tools. Is a multi tool with a

220
00:11:19,495 --> 00:11:20,415
Speaker 4: cutting blade on it.

221
00:11:21,575 --> 00:11:23,295
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got one of those. I thought I might

222
00:11:23,335 --> 00:11:25,495
Speaker 5: have a play down the and one of my options

223
00:11:25,655 --> 00:11:29,615
Speaker 5: was to sort of go down there's one. There's a

224
00:11:29,615 --> 00:11:32,535
Speaker 5: couple of there's two tiles eye basic this thing, and

225
00:11:32,815 --> 00:11:36,015
Speaker 5: maybe six or eight tiles wide. I thought I might

226
00:11:36,055 --> 00:11:39,695
Speaker 5: try and go down the go outline of a couple

227
00:11:39,695 --> 00:11:42,375
Speaker 5: of the tiles which have no timber behind them. Yes,

228
00:11:43,295 --> 00:11:45,375
Speaker 5: and then if I can get through the ground, i'd

229
00:11:45,375 --> 00:11:47,055
Speaker 5: go straight through. I have to cut the GiB as

230
00:11:47,055 --> 00:11:50,535
Speaker 5: well behind it and take out a whole tile section

231
00:11:50,575 --> 00:11:53,055
Speaker 5: which would give me a handworth to get in behind.

232
00:11:53,655 --> 00:11:55,775
Speaker 5: And whether I can fix the motor from there, I

233
00:11:55,775 --> 00:11:58,815
Speaker 5: don't know, but I might be then able to perhaps

234
00:11:58,855 --> 00:12:00,935
Speaker 5: turn the renovator around the other way with an angle

235
00:12:00,975 --> 00:12:03,335
Speaker 5: blade and attack any screws that the holding a jib

236
00:12:03,335 --> 00:12:05,895
Speaker 5: onto the timber you're onto it. Go for that sort

237
00:12:05,895 --> 00:12:08,615
Speaker 5: of option. Option A. Yeah, A bit of a mess

238
00:12:08,615 --> 00:12:11,855
Speaker 5: effects up, but that's possible. Tars and the problem I've

239
00:12:11,855 --> 00:12:12,335
Speaker 5: got some more.

240
00:12:12,615 --> 00:12:15,015
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look if you ended up having to make

241
00:12:15,095 --> 00:12:16,735
Speaker 4: just a panel and fixing that neatly.

242
00:12:16,855 --> 00:12:17,055
Speaker 3: Is it?

243
00:12:17,175 --> 00:12:19,295
Speaker 4: Is it obvious with the motorers? Like is it the

244
00:12:19,335 --> 00:12:21,055
Speaker 4: first thing you see when you approach the spar or

245
00:12:21,135 --> 00:12:21,255
Speaker 4: is it?

246
00:12:22,015 --> 00:12:24,015
Speaker 5: I know, I know exactly where the motor is. It's

247
00:12:24,015 --> 00:12:26,935
Speaker 5: just around the corner, right. I don't know why. I

248
00:12:26,935 --> 00:12:32,735
Speaker 5: don't know why the tile panel then' one whatever.

249
00:12:34,255 --> 00:12:36,055
Speaker 4: But I think you're on the right track, and I

250
00:12:36,095 --> 00:12:38,535
Speaker 4: would definitely open up that gap with the multi tool,

251
00:12:39,255 --> 00:12:40,975
Speaker 4: And then, like you say, if you take a panel out,

252
00:12:40,975 --> 00:12:42,775
Speaker 4: then you could also use the multi tool to get

253
00:12:42,815 --> 00:12:47,335
Speaker 4: in behind and separate the substrate the lining from the

254
00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:50,815
Speaker 4: stadi just for some reason they have actually been fastened together.

255
00:12:51,455 --> 00:12:53,295
Speaker 5: So the other thought I had was sort of attack

256
00:12:53,415 --> 00:12:57,455
Speaker 5: some tiles directly where quote the screws should be and

257
00:12:57,575 --> 00:12:59,255
Speaker 5: just under the screws. I'm not sure which is the

258
00:12:59,255 --> 00:13:01,015
Speaker 5: best way to go there with us, just to attempt

259
00:13:01,055 --> 00:13:02,335
Speaker 5: to get the whole thing out as a whole with

260
00:13:02,695 --> 00:13:06,255
Speaker 5: damaged tiles, or take out a section without dammating a title.

261
00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:08,015
Speaker 4: I think if I was going to cut through, i'd

262
00:13:08,055 --> 00:13:11,175
Speaker 4: probably try and cut through around the perimeter of a

263
00:13:11,255 --> 00:13:14,415
Speaker 4: tile where you think there is no timber behind it,

264
00:13:14,735 --> 00:13:16,335
Speaker 4: so that in the end you could lift out one

265
00:13:16,375 --> 00:13:17,975
Speaker 4: piece and then you can get in there and have

266
00:13:17,975 --> 00:13:21,255
Speaker 4: a look around. Yep, yeah, all right, mate, all the

267
00:13:21,335 --> 00:13:24,375
Speaker 4: very best. That sounds like a good Sunday. Take care,

268
00:13:26,775 --> 00:13:28,935
Speaker 4: Maybe wait a little bit later before you start those

269
00:13:29,255 --> 00:13:34,615
Speaker 4: renovator tools. They are quite noisy. Yeah, they can be

270
00:13:34,695 --> 00:13:38,655
Speaker 4: quite noisy. We're hearing protection. Oh Waite hundred eighty ten

271
00:13:38,695 --> 00:13:40,695
Speaker 4: eighty the number to call Dave. A very good morning

272
00:13:40,695 --> 00:13:45,175
Speaker 4: to you. This is weird, this is weird. My finger's

273
00:13:45,215 --> 00:13:48,775
Speaker 4: not working. Hang on there we go, got you now,

274
00:13:49,295 --> 00:13:52,815
Speaker 4: Hello Dave, how are good? Thank you?

275
00:13:52,815 --> 00:13:53,575
Speaker 3: And how are you?

276
00:13:54,775 --> 00:13:55,015
Speaker 8: Yeah?

277
00:13:55,055 --> 00:13:55,615
Speaker 9: Not for bad?

278
00:13:56,455 --> 00:13:58,895
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I don't want to bore you as too

279
00:13:58,975 --> 00:14:02,295
Speaker 8: many details, but we've got me more partner for a

280
00:14:02,575 --> 00:14:05,735
Speaker 8: new build place. It wasn't off the plans because it

281
00:14:05,775 --> 00:14:09,895
Speaker 8: was kind of like half built. Yeah, ended up sort

282
00:14:09,895 --> 00:14:13,015
Speaker 8: of signing the sound purchase. But once it was finished,

283
00:14:13,335 --> 00:14:15,895
Speaker 8: there was a lot of issues that we found in

284
00:14:15,935 --> 00:14:21,175
Speaker 8: the pre sediment inspection, like just workmanship issues, and there's

285
00:14:21,215 --> 00:14:25,975
Speaker 8: a lot of problems with it where the developer's not

286
00:14:26,015 --> 00:14:29,335
Speaker 8: really being very good at fixing them within that twelve

287
00:14:29,375 --> 00:14:33,735
Speaker 8: month period. Anyway, We've had a lot of back and

288
00:14:33,855 --> 00:14:38,535
Speaker 8: forth and gotten in real estate agencies involved, and nothing's

289
00:14:38,575 --> 00:14:43,655
Speaker 8: really working. So I've Filder playing with the dispute tribunal

290
00:14:43,655 --> 00:14:47,415
Speaker 8: and there's a bunch of things like paint quality and

291
00:14:47,495 --> 00:14:49,695
Speaker 8: like jip stopping quality and all that sort of thing.

292
00:14:49,775 --> 00:14:53,895
Speaker 8: But my question is is so the house has got

293
00:14:54,655 --> 00:14:57,535
Speaker 8: off It was specified in the spec sheet and in

294
00:14:57,695 --> 00:15:01,335
Speaker 8: the renderings in the building consent plans that they would

295
00:15:01,415 --> 00:15:06,695
Speaker 8: put aluminium lovers on the two front facing windows of property.

296
00:15:06,895 --> 00:15:07,015
Speaker 6: Yes.

297
00:15:08,495 --> 00:15:13,095
Speaker 8: The second thing is that it's kind of built into

298
00:15:13,175 --> 00:15:16,615
Speaker 8: a slope section, so they've done a lot of retaining

299
00:15:16,975 --> 00:15:20,215
Speaker 8: block wall, retaining at the bottom of the house built it,

300
00:15:21,775 --> 00:15:24,895
Speaker 8: and on the spec sheet, on the spec sheet it

301
00:15:24,975 --> 00:15:29,095
Speaker 8: specified that the block wall would be plasted with a

302
00:15:29,175 --> 00:15:32,495
Speaker 8: razine brought up I think it was called in Tigre

303
00:15:32,695 --> 00:15:38,655
Speaker 8: or something, And it doesn't specify the actual product and

304
00:15:38,775 --> 00:15:41,495
Speaker 8: the consent plans, but it does and the rendering have

305
00:15:42,415 --> 00:15:47,175
Speaker 8: clearly has like some sort of you know, plaster finish

306
00:15:47,335 --> 00:15:48,695
Speaker 8: on the block.

307
00:15:48,495 --> 00:15:51,455
Speaker 4: Wall on the exterior of the block wall, and I

308
00:15:51,535 --> 00:15:54,135
Speaker 4: presume on the block wall above ground level.

309
00:15:56,335 --> 00:16:00,095
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's correct. Yes, because the blockwall kind of is

310
00:16:01,015 --> 00:16:03,655
Speaker 8: all over the ground floor of the house. It makes

311
00:16:03,695 --> 00:16:06,575
Speaker 8: it like a three story house. The block wall kind

312
00:16:06,615 --> 00:16:11,055
Speaker 8: of like supporting that the bottom part of the house.

313
00:16:12,495 --> 00:16:14,895
Speaker 8: So my question has is those two things, like the

314
00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:20,215
Speaker 8: louvers and the finish of the of the block workers.

315
00:16:20,255 --> 00:16:26,895
Speaker 8: It's basically just bear at the moment and do you

316
00:16:26,975 --> 00:16:31,375
Speaker 8: have any elite to stand on when they've specified in

317
00:16:31,415 --> 00:16:33,775
Speaker 8: the specially and the building consent plans that it would

318
00:16:33,815 --> 00:16:35,575
Speaker 8: be plastered.

319
00:16:35,975 --> 00:16:40,215
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think that you should have a reasonable claim.

320
00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:44,615
Speaker 4: So the way I've always come to see building consents

321
00:16:44,695 --> 00:16:48,855
Speaker 4: these days is are they are effectively a contract. Right,

322
00:16:49,255 --> 00:16:52,135
Speaker 4: So what's on the building consent is what has to

323
00:16:52,215 --> 00:16:57,935
Speaker 4: be built, and you can change it, but then you

324
00:16:58,015 --> 00:17:03,775
Speaker 4: have to track that change as well. I If, for example,

325
00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:07,735
Speaker 4: something that is removed or substituted and it will an

326
00:17:07,815 --> 00:17:10,415
Speaker 4: item that is part of the building consent, then that

327
00:17:10,535 --> 00:17:14,175
Speaker 4: should be changed with either a minor variation or an amendment,

328
00:17:14,455 --> 00:17:17,255
Speaker 4: and you can track all of those changes. I presume

329
00:17:17,295 --> 00:17:23,175
Speaker 4: the house has a Code Compliance Certificate. Yes it does, okay,

330
00:17:23,215 --> 00:17:25,175
Speaker 4: all right, so it's had its final inspection and it's

331
00:17:25,175 --> 00:17:30,815
Speaker 4: had its CCC. The fact that like the render on

332
00:17:30,855 --> 00:17:35,015
Speaker 4: the exterior of the block work is probably their sense.

333
00:17:35,175 --> 00:17:36,775
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a good idea and it

334
00:17:36,815 --> 00:17:38,775
Speaker 4: allows you to paint it and that will allow you

335
00:17:38,815 --> 00:17:42,255
Speaker 4: to make it more weather proof, but it's probably not

336
00:17:42,455 --> 00:17:46,615
Speaker 4: integral to the overall performance of the building, so that

337
00:17:46,735 --> 00:17:49,255
Speaker 4: might be a little bit of a challenging one that

338
00:17:49,335 --> 00:17:52,895
Speaker 4: becomes a contract issue there. Well, I'm interested to hear

339
00:17:52,935 --> 00:17:56,495
Speaker 4: that they didn't install the aluminum lovers on the front

340
00:17:56,535 --> 00:17:59,335
Speaker 4: because I suspect that that's part of their resource consent

341
00:17:59,855 --> 00:18:05,535
Speaker 4: and that will be about either privacy or potentially it'll

342
00:18:05,535 --> 00:18:08,415
Speaker 4: be about shape, and so it'll be part of the

343
00:18:08,415 --> 00:18:11,095
Speaker 4: design of the building. So the fact that they are

344
00:18:11,135 --> 00:18:15,255
Speaker 4: not installed and they were clearly on the on the plans,

345
00:18:16,935 --> 00:18:18,815
Speaker 4: in some ways I'm a little bit surprised that the

346
00:18:18,935 --> 00:18:21,815
Speaker 4: final inspection didn't pick that up right, Like I wouldn't

347
00:18:21,815 --> 00:18:25,215
Speaker 4: have thought the building should get a cc if something's missing.

348
00:18:26,455 --> 00:18:27,095
Speaker 6: It's funny you.

349
00:18:27,015 --> 00:18:30,335
Speaker 10: Say that because the resource consent isn't actually fully signed

350
00:18:30,335 --> 00:18:30,735
Speaker 10: off yet.

351
00:18:31,175 --> 00:18:39,215
Speaker 4: Ah okay, then can you get a CCC without the

352
00:18:39,255 --> 00:18:40,935
Speaker 4: resource consent being signed off?

353
00:18:41,815 --> 00:18:43,415
Speaker 6: Apparently, says I've seen it.

354
00:18:43,855 --> 00:18:46,935
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right, I think you can. But yes,

355
00:18:47,015 --> 00:18:50,615
Speaker 4: the resource consent should be signed off. And maybe that's

356
00:18:50,655 --> 00:18:53,095
Speaker 4: the thing they haven't done. That it's on the resource

357
00:18:53,135 --> 00:18:56,655
Speaker 4: consent and it hasn't been done. And hopefully and maybe

358
00:18:56,695 --> 00:18:59,015
Speaker 4: the developers thinking, oh if I just ignore a little

359
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:01,495
Speaker 4: go away and it won't which is good. So that

360
00:19:01,855 --> 00:19:05,175
Speaker 4: that's a really strong position for you to be in

361
00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:08,775
Speaker 4: the fact that the resource consent has not been signed off.

362
00:19:09,175 --> 00:19:14,575
Speaker 4: The other thing is that when was the construction finished?

363
00:19:17,295 --> 00:19:22,015
Speaker 10: Rough maybe like no October or November.

364
00:19:21,775 --> 00:19:24,535
Speaker 4: Okay, last year, all right, now somewhere along the line,

365
00:19:24,535 --> 00:19:26,535
Speaker 4: and you'll go through the property or through the file

366
00:19:26,695 --> 00:19:29,775
Speaker 4: and you'll see the name of the LBP that's been

367
00:19:29,775 --> 00:19:32,215
Speaker 4: assigned to it, particularly in terms of the actual main

368
00:19:32,295 --> 00:19:37,655
Speaker 4: contractor or the person responsible for the structural work. So

369
00:19:37,695 --> 00:19:40,855
Speaker 4: there'll be an LBP. This is the sort of thing

370
00:19:40,975 --> 00:19:44,895
Speaker 4: if you find you're not getting a professional response from

371
00:19:44,895 --> 00:19:48,695
Speaker 4: the LBP is to go to the disciplinary board, so

372
00:19:48,775 --> 00:19:52,895
Speaker 4: the Licensed Building Practitioner Disciplinary Board, because there is now

373
00:19:52,935 --> 00:19:59,015
Speaker 4: a code of Ethics for lbps, right, and that's around

374
00:19:59,135 --> 00:20:04,895
Speaker 4: you know, informing people working professionally, having good communication, those

375
00:20:04,895 --> 00:20:06,815
Speaker 4: sorts of things. So have a look for that online,

376
00:20:06,855 --> 00:20:10,055
Speaker 4: go to LBP Code of Ethics and it'll bring up

377
00:20:10,095 --> 00:20:13,895
Speaker 4: all of that information for you. That would be a

378
00:20:15,135 --> 00:20:16,415
Speaker 4: that gives you a bit of leverage.

379
00:20:17,455 --> 00:20:20,095
Speaker 10: Where would you find them the number of CCC.

380
00:20:20,575 --> 00:20:24,375
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, if you go yes on the CCC application form,

381
00:20:24,895 --> 00:20:31,895
Speaker 4: it should have record of works from people like yeah,

382
00:20:31,935 --> 00:20:35,735
Speaker 4: it'll have the LBP details on there. And remember and

383
00:20:35,815 --> 00:20:40,735
Speaker 4: that LBP may not necessarily be the developer. It may

384
00:20:40,775 --> 00:20:45,095
Speaker 4: not necessarily be the main contractor. But if as an LBP,

385
00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:47,535
Speaker 4: like I'm an LBP, if I put my name to it,

386
00:20:47,575 --> 00:20:51,015
Speaker 4: I'm responsible for it, right and and so you can

387
00:20:51,175 --> 00:20:51,975
Speaker 4: leverage off that.

388
00:20:53,655 --> 00:20:54,255
Speaker 10: Right, Okay.

389
00:20:54,455 --> 00:20:58,775
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think going to the dispute tribunal in

390
00:20:58,815 --> 00:21:01,295
Speaker 4: the way that you're intending is probably a good idea.

391
00:21:01,375 --> 00:21:02,495
Speaker 3: It does get.

392
00:21:02,255 --> 00:21:07,415
Speaker 4: Tricky around, you know, workmanship, because there is a guide

393
00:21:07,495 --> 00:21:11,335
Speaker 4: to tolerances and a guide to defects. So make sure

394
00:21:11,335 --> 00:21:15,175
Speaker 4: that you are that you know what the rules are

395
00:21:15,415 --> 00:21:18,295
Speaker 4: and what the standards are, and that the work does

396
00:21:18,415 --> 00:21:24,095
Speaker 4: actually is less than what was reasonably expected. And I

397
00:21:24,095 --> 00:21:26,775
Speaker 4: only say that because I know someone who's involved in

398
00:21:26,895 --> 00:21:32,095
Speaker 4: a case recently where their work was actually okay and

399
00:21:32,175 --> 00:21:34,615
Speaker 4: met the standards. In fact was better than okay. It

400
00:21:34,695 --> 00:21:37,175
Speaker 4: was just they were dealing with a client who was

401
00:21:39,535 --> 00:21:44,055
Speaker 4: to be blunt, illogical, right, and unrealistic. So you know,

402
00:21:44,535 --> 00:21:46,695
Speaker 4: you don't sound like that person. But it's always good

403
00:21:46,695 --> 00:21:49,455
Speaker 4: if you're going to go into a dispute around standards,

404
00:21:49,615 --> 00:21:51,335
Speaker 4: that you know what the standards are and you can

405
00:21:51,375 --> 00:21:54,855
Speaker 4: clearly identify and highlight the fact that the work does

406
00:21:54,895 --> 00:21:56,095
Speaker 4: not meet those standards.

407
00:21:57,415 --> 00:21:59,775
Speaker 10: This is an example you can see that joins in

408
00:21:59,815 --> 00:22:04,215
Speaker 10: the ceiling ye in the main living area pretty clearly.

409
00:22:04,415 --> 00:22:04,655
Speaker 6: Yep.

410
00:22:06,815 --> 00:22:09,135
Speaker 4: And that's the sort of thing that in a new build,

411
00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:12,735
Speaker 4: you know. I mean again, if you know what you're

412
00:22:12,735 --> 00:22:15,895
Speaker 4: looking for, you probably find it in anyone's work right

413
00:22:16,015 --> 00:22:18,615
Speaker 4: somewhere along the line. But if you walk in and

414
00:22:18,655 --> 00:22:22,095
Speaker 4: it stands out like the proverbial, then that's not acceptable.

415
00:22:22,135 --> 00:22:27,215
Speaker 4: That's poor workmanship or poor painting, or a combination of both. Yeah,

416
00:22:27,775 --> 00:22:29,255
Speaker 4: good luck and let us know how you get on.

417
00:22:29,335 --> 00:22:32,895
Speaker 4: But check out the LBP Code of Ethics. Okay, cool,

418
00:22:32,895 --> 00:22:35,255
Speaker 4: all right, all the best, take care. Not a great

419
00:22:35,295 --> 00:22:37,935
Speaker 4: situation to be in. It must be kind of disheartening

420
00:22:38,055 --> 00:22:40,135
Speaker 4: to be fair. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

421
00:22:40,135 --> 00:22:41,575
Speaker 4: We a bit behind on the brakes. It is six

422
00:22:41,695 --> 00:22:45,095
Speaker 4: twenty nine. Good news. Hamish Kerr in the high jump

423
00:22:45,135 --> 00:22:48,615
Speaker 4: has just cleared two thirty six, so he's still in

424
00:22:48,655 --> 00:22:50,935
Speaker 4: the leading pack. So he's just cleared two thirty six,

425
00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:57,455
Speaker 4: which is pretty impressive. Back in the mouth you and

426
00:22:57,535 --> 00:23:01,095
Speaker 4: news talk se'd be keeping one eye on the high jump,

427
00:23:01,095 --> 00:23:03,415
Speaker 4: which is pretty exciting at the moment. So two meters

428
00:23:03,535 --> 00:23:06,095
Speaker 4: thirty six, take your take measure out. Run that up

429
00:23:06,095 --> 00:23:09,575
Speaker 4: the that's almost as tall to be fair, that's like

430
00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:12,615
Speaker 4: just tucking underneath the scotia of a standard new bill.

431
00:23:12,975 --> 00:23:15,015
Speaker 4: Talking about new bills with Dave just a moment ago.

432
00:23:15,215 --> 00:23:17,015
Speaker 4: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

433
00:23:17,055 --> 00:23:18,855
Speaker 4: to call Marty. Thank you very much for your text.

434
00:23:18,895 --> 00:23:23,495
Speaker 4: But a wonderful word. Wonderful word, unrepeatable on radio, but

435
00:23:23,815 --> 00:23:26,695
Speaker 4: it does go. It's a perfect word for describing those

436
00:23:26,735 --> 00:23:29,255
Speaker 4: people that I made the comment earlier this morning driving

437
00:23:29,295 --> 00:23:31,895
Speaker 4: in there's a lot of roadworks in Cones that are

438
00:23:32,015 --> 00:23:35,815
Speaker 4: up on the road into where I live, and overnight

439
00:23:35,895 --> 00:23:38,095
Speaker 4: someone has thought that it's entertaining to go and knock

440
00:23:38,135 --> 00:23:40,055
Speaker 4: down probably I don't know, thirty percent of them or

441
00:23:40,095 --> 00:23:42,415
Speaker 4: something like that. So I was trying to come up

442
00:23:42,455 --> 00:23:45,215
Speaker 4: with an appropriate term for people who get their jollies

443
00:23:45,255 --> 00:23:47,855
Speaker 4: from doing such an idiotic thing. I wait, one hundred

444
00:23:47,935 --> 00:23:50,735
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Jim A

445
00:23:50,935 --> 00:23:56,695
Speaker 4: very good morning to you. Hey there, Jim, Yes, good morning,

446
00:23:56,815 --> 00:23:57,815
Speaker 4: Good morning, Jim.

447
00:23:58,535 --> 00:24:03,415
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's I've got a little heck up. We bought

448
00:24:03,415 --> 00:24:08,015
Speaker 9: a house eight years ago. Who was We're the third owner.

449
00:24:08,175 --> 00:24:10,655
Speaker 9: It would be three four years old. At the time.

450
00:24:11,615 --> 00:24:14,935
Speaker 9: The section was fenced. There was no garage on the section.

451
00:24:15,135 --> 00:24:19,175
Speaker 9: So we got a built, a garage built. We've just

452
00:24:19,295 --> 00:24:23,895
Speaker 9: discovered that the one of the boundary fences, unfortunately next

453
00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:26,455
Speaker 9: door to the garage, is not in the right place.

454
00:24:26,495 --> 00:24:34,335
Speaker 9: So consequently the the the right way should it actually

455
00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:39,735
Speaker 9: comes into the garage about probably about one hundred mills

456
00:24:40,095 --> 00:24:48,295
Speaker 9: right yep? So what where where where do we stand

457
00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:52,255
Speaker 9: with that? You know, everybody signed off for it, but

458
00:24:52,575 --> 00:24:55,415
Speaker 9: now we discover that no one wants to know anything

459
00:24:55,455 --> 00:24:58,135
Speaker 9: about it. I don't know who actually built the fence.

460
00:24:59,455 --> 00:25:04,095
Speaker 9: It wouldn't have been the actual house builder. But yeah,

461
00:25:04,935 --> 00:25:07,575
Speaker 9: the council signed up the garage.

462
00:25:08,495 --> 00:25:12,175
Speaker 4: Hang on, so council signed off the garage. So the

463
00:25:12,215 --> 00:25:16,815
Speaker 4: garage has got a building consent, yes, and the building

464
00:25:16,815 --> 00:25:20,055
Speaker 4: consent was signed off by the council. And so yeah,

465
00:25:20,095 --> 00:25:24,535
Speaker 4: because and when was the garage built? Twelve years ago roughly?

466
00:25:25,975 --> 00:25:29,575
Speaker 9: And eight years ago actually eight years ago now.

467
00:25:29,855 --> 00:25:38,855
Speaker 4: Okay, sixteen Yeah, quite genuinely, I'm a little surprised at

468
00:25:38,895 --> 00:25:42,095
Speaker 4: the fact that the garage was able to be located

469
00:25:42,175 --> 00:25:47,615
Speaker 4: without a surveyor's certificate. Right, So typically these days, back

470
00:25:47,615 --> 00:25:50,855
Speaker 4: in the day, like when I first started building, you'd go, hey,

471
00:25:50,855 --> 00:25:53,775
Speaker 4: look here's where I think the boundary is. This is

472
00:25:53,815 --> 00:25:56,735
Speaker 4: where the building consent shows the new build to go.

473
00:25:57,255 --> 00:26:00,775
Speaker 4: I've run a string line down the boundary and I've

474
00:26:00,855 --> 00:26:03,735
Speaker 4: said it. I tell you what can I just get

475
00:26:03,775 --> 00:26:08,135
Speaker 4: you to hold because it's very in the Olympics right now?

476
00:26:10,015 --> 00:26:13,455
Speaker 1: A chance for gold Live commentary of Paris twenty twenty

477
00:26:13,455 --> 00:26:14,975
Speaker 1: four on you still zvy.

478
00:26:23,655 --> 00:26:28,375
Speaker 11: Shelby McEwen is going to be the first to try.

479
00:26:29,335 --> 00:26:31,735
Speaker 11: He came into the competition with a PB of two

480
00:26:31,815 --> 00:26:39,015
Speaker 11: thirty three. This a full five centimeters higher for Shelby McEwen,

481
00:26:39,095 --> 00:26:41,975
Speaker 11: but he does have momentum on his side. His last

482
00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:44,935
Speaker 11: two jumps have been clearances at two thirty four and

483
00:26:44,975 --> 00:26:49,655
Speaker 11: two thirty six. What about two thirty eight. We're getting

484
00:26:49,895 --> 00:26:59,335
Speaker 11: right up there now McEwen the American left hand side.

485
00:26:59,455 --> 00:27:01,455
Speaker 11: He took off a long way from the bar and

486
00:27:01,535 --> 00:27:04,935
Speaker 11: hit it on the way up. So I miss for

487
00:27:04,975 --> 00:27:11,735
Speaker 11: Shelby McEwen at two thirty eight. If Hamish Kerr can

488
00:27:12,415 --> 00:27:16,135
Speaker 11: clear this, he puts himself in a tremendous position for gold.

489
00:27:16,655 --> 00:27:21,175
Speaker 11: He already knows that he is the gold medallist. If

490
00:27:21,735 --> 00:27:29,375
Speaker 11: Shelby McEwen cannot clear two thirty eight, it's done. On

491
00:27:29,455 --> 00:27:32,975
Speaker 11: countback of missus. Hamish kurmiss twice at two thirty one,

492
00:27:33,015 --> 00:27:35,655
Speaker 11: but cleared first time at two thirty four and first

493
00:27:35,695 --> 00:27:40,735
Speaker 11: time at two thirty six. Shelby McEwen was clear up

494
00:27:40,815 --> 00:27:45,375
Speaker 11: until two thirty four, when he needed three attempts before

495
00:27:45,415 --> 00:27:48,055
Speaker 11: going clear at two thirty six. So as things stand,

496
00:27:48,455 --> 00:28:00,215
Speaker 11: Hamish Curve is in the gold medal position. He's asking

497
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:07,415
Speaker 11: for assistance from the crowd. Now is Hamish Kur Never

498
00:28:07,495 --> 00:28:13,015
Speaker 11: before has he cleared this height. He said in the

499
00:28:13,095 --> 00:28:15,815
Speaker 11: lead up to these Olympic Games that he believed he

500
00:28:15,895 --> 00:28:19,615
Speaker 11: had a two point forty in his locker. What about

501
00:28:19,655 --> 00:28:23,575
Speaker 11: a two thirty eight first attempt for Hamoush Kurr right handed.

502
00:28:23,335 --> 00:28:25,295
Speaker 3: Approach and no, it never looked good.

503
00:28:26,655 --> 00:28:28,535
Speaker 11: I think he can tell what Hamish curR he gets

504
00:28:28,615 --> 00:28:31,535
Speaker 11: right to the end of his approach, and then we'll

505
00:28:31,615 --> 00:28:32,095
Speaker 11: keep you up.

506
00:28:32,135 --> 00:28:36,535
Speaker 4: Today's eight with the high jumps of Hamishkur, who successfully

507
00:28:36,535 --> 00:28:40,615
Speaker 4: cleared two point three six meters and that puts him

508
00:28:40,615 --> 00:28:42,775
Speaker 4: in a leading position, is now having a go at

509
00:28:42,775 --> 00:28:45,615
Speaker 4: two point three eight. He didn't make that. That's a

510
00:28:45,615 --> 00:28:48,335
Speaker 4: hell of a long way to jump, but neither no

511
00:28:48,335 --> 00:28:51,695
Speaker 4: one else has either, So it's still looking like he's

512
00:28:51,895 --> 00:28:53,855
Speaker 4: a genuine chance for a gold medal. We will keep

513
00:28:53,895 --> 00:28:55,695
Speaker 4: you up to date with that. Let's go back to

514
00:28:55,895 --> 00:29:00,415
Speaker 4: Jim So Jim, I like, I'm a little bit surprised

515
00:29:00,655 --> 00:29:04,335
Speaker 4: that a building that was built twelve years ago, because

516
00:29:04,335 --> 00:29:06,775
Speaker 4: that's not that long ago or eight year years ago,

517
00:29:08,015 --> 00:29:12,215
Speaker 4: wasn't required to have a sighting certificate? Right that that

518
00:29:12,335 --> 00:29:14,695
Speaker 4: somewhere along the line. Typically the first thing the building

519
00:29:14,695 --> 00:29:18,175
Speaker 4: inspector will do on the first inspection, which will be

520
00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:21,175
Speaker 4: the footings. They'll come out and go, okay, can you

521
00:29:21,255 --> 00:29:23,335
Speaker 4: show me where the boundary is or can you show

522
00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:27,615
Speaker 4: me a sighting certificate from a surveyor that shows that

523
00:29:27,655 --> 00:29:29,655
Speaker 4: it's in the correct place, Because and I assume that

524
00:29:29,655 --> 00:29:33,935
Speaker 4: the plans show a theoretical boundary and then the building

525
00:29:34,015 --> 00:29:36,615
Speaker 4: offset from the boundary by a certain distance.

526
00:29:36,295 --> 00:29:41,255
Speaker 9: Right the plans that I've got now, which I didn't

527
00:29:41,295 --> 00:29:46,055
Speaker 9: have at the time because we were here. Yes, I

528
00:29:46,775 --> 00:29:48,895
Speaker 9: does show and this has only been brought to my

529
00:29:48,975 --> 00:29:52,135
Speaker 9: attention now, it does show that the fence comes on

530
00:29:52,215 --> 00:29:54,615
Speaker 9: an angle. It's a bit of a strange thing. It

531
00:29:54,655 --> 00:29:57,735
Speaker 9: comes on an angle and then goes back again. Now,

532
00:29:58,335 --> 00:30:01,855
Speaker 9: to be honest, there is one surveyp at one end

533
00:30:01,855 --> 00:30:04,175
Speaker 9: of the fence, and I think what they've done is

534
00:30:04,255 --> 00:30:06,615
Speaker 9: looked at that and said, oh, well the fence the

535
00:30:06,695 --> 00:30:09,255
Speaker 9: other peak must be down the other end, but I've

536
00:30:09,295 --> 00:30:12,495
Speaker 9: not gone looking for it because it's definitely not there.

537
00:30:13,295 --> 00:30:14,375
Speaker 9: And here.

538
00:30:15,775 --> 00:30:24,255
Speaker 4: Okay, I well, I would say that the fact that

539
00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:26,255
Speaker 4: you know, like if you said to me, look, i've

540
00:30:26,255 --> 00:30:28,175
Speaker 4: got this garage. It was built in the nineteen fifties,

541
00:30:28,175 --> 00:30:32,175
Speaker 4: then I'd go, yeah, okay, that's just unfortunate. But the

542
00:30:32,215 --> 00:30:34,975
Speaker 4: fact that it had a building consent, it was signed

543
00:30:34,975 --> 00:30:37,175
Speaker 4: off by the council, and now it turns out that

544
00:30:37,215 --> 00:30:40,895
Speaker 4: it's in the wrong place, I think you've got a

545
00:30:40,975 --> 00:30:45,775
Speaker 4: reasonable claim at council for not doing their job right.

546
00:30:47,295 --> 00:30:50,575
Speaker 4: So and to be fair, every now and then council

547
00:30:50,775 --> 00:30:53,255
Speaker 4: don't do it right. There was a very well known

548
00:30:53,335 --> 00:30:56,775
Speaker 4: case of a house in South Auckland in a subdivision

549
00:30:57,015 --> 00:30:59,175
Speaker 4: which was supposed to be a meter from the boundary

550
00:30:59,175 --> 00:31:02,015
Speaker 4: and ended up being on the boundary, and someone somehow

551
00:31:02,175 --> 00:31:05,895
Speaker 4: missed that in the setout. So I think in this case,

552
00:31:06,655 --> 00:31:10,375
Speaker 4: and the issue is now that someone wants that land

553
00:31:10,415 --> 00:31:13,135
Speaker 4: that you thought was yours but isn't actually yours, and

554
00:31:13,175 --> 00:31:16,255
Speaker 4: they want to use it, like, who knows what's the issue.

555
00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:21,015
Speaker 9: I've actually talked to the neighbor. Yeah, they're quite happy

556
00:31:21,095 --> 00:31:24,615
Speaker 9: to say, just get it serveted off, and you know,

557
00:31:24,615 --> 00:31:26,815
Speaker 9: I leave the fence where it is. I don't want

558
00:31:27,455 --> 00:31:31,015
Speaker 9: the meter or land back again. That's it's been like

559
00:31:31,095 --> 00:31:33,695
Speaker 9: that as long as i'velent here, which is a lot

560
00:31:33,775 --> 00:31:37,535
Speaker 9: longer than me, so that quite happy to do it.

561
00:31:37,615 --> 00:31:39,335
Speaker 9: But it means that we would have to get the

562
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:43,255
Speaker 9: whole place resurveyed, which you would have an idea how

563
00:31:43,295 --> 00:31:45,815
Speaker 9: I've been told what roughly it would cost.

564
00:31:46,575 --> 00:31:48,535
Speaker 4: Maybe twenty grand something like that.

565
00:31:48,695 --> 00:31:50,375
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, plus.

566
00:31:50,135 --> 00:31:53,455
Speaker 4: Plus you would probably need to buy that piece of

567
00:31:53,535 --> 00:31:55,695
Speaker 4: land now, whether you buy it for a dollar or whatever,

568
00:31:56,215 --> 00:31:59,655
Speaker 4: but to actually make it yours, because you know, at

569
00:31:59,655 --> 00:32:01,695
Speaker 4: this stage, if you and your neighbor agree that it's

570
00:32:01,735 --> 00:32:04,895
Speaker 4: no issue, that's great until one of you changes, right,

571
00:32:05,015 --> 00:32:07,855
Speaker 4: and then if the neighbors ols and somebody else decides

572
00:32:07,855 --> 00:32:10,855
Speaker 4: that in fact they don't want the infringement, they could

573
00:32:10,895 --> 00:32:12,935
Speaker 4: come to you and say it's on my land, you've

574
00:32:12,975 --> 00:32:15,495
Speaker 4: got to move it. And obviously that means demolishing the

575
00:32:15,495 --> 00:32:22,215
Speaker 4: garage and starting over again. Look maybe, and it's probably

576
00:32:22,215 --> 00:32:23,615
Speaker 4: the sort of thing that if you're going to go

577
00:32:23,655 --> 00:32:26,535
Speaker 4: into battle with the council, you probably need to contract

578
00:32:26,535 --> 00:32:29,695
Speaker 4: a lawyer to do that. And you'd go to the

579
00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:32,015
Speaker 4: lawyer and go, look, I want you to make a

580
00:32:32,055 --> 00:32:36,695
Speaker 4: claim to counsel that they are stuffed up basically, and

581
00:32:36,775 --> 00:32:40,655
Speaker 4: that their contribution could be to do a resurvey to

582
00:32:40,775 --> 00:32:45,735
Speaker 4: allow you to legalize the location of the building by

583
00:32:45,815 --> 00:32:50,095
Speaker 4: redoing the the boundary. That's probably going to be the

584
00:32:50,095 --> 00:32:55,535
Speaker 4: best situation. Otherwise, I think you probably in the end,

585
00:32:55,575 --> 00:32:59,375
Speaker 4: the fact that nobody somebody missed out the survey, somebody

586
00:32:59,415 --> 00:33:02,255
Speaker 4: didn't determine the boundary properly in the building got built,

587
00:33:04,215 --> 00:33:06,735
Speaker 4: doesn't mean the building can stay there. Would think that

588
00:33:06,775 --> 00:33:09,935
Speaker 4: the building would probably still need to come down if somebody,

589
00:33:10,375 --> 00:33:13,055
Speaker 4: the neighbor insisted they wanted their piece of land back.

590
00:33:13,695 --> 00:33:16,375
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we've had a talk to them

591
00:33:16,415 --> 00:33:18,975
Speaker 9: and they couldn't, you know.

592
00:33:19,895 --> 00:33:23,615
Speaker 4: Which is great, and now would be the time to go.

593
00:33:23,895 --> 00:33:27,455
Speaker 4: Let's formalize that. Let's have you know, let's resurvey the property,

594
00:33:27,935 --> 00:33:31,095
Speaker 4: determine the size of it, decide that this is the

595
00:33:31,135 --> 00:33:34,295
Speaker 4: new boundary, make an arrangement with the two of us.

596
00:33:34,415 --> 00:33:36,255
Speaker 4: But look, by the time you do the survey and

597
00:33:36,335 --> 00:33:38,095
Speaker 4: update the title and all the rest of it. You're

598
00:33:38,135 --> 00:33:41,735
Speaker 4: in the thousands of dollars. And you know, like I say,

599
00:33:41,855 --> 00:33:45,135
Speaker 4: if it was way back, I'd say, it's one of

600
00:33:45,175 --> 00:33:49,255
Speaker 4: those things that happened back then. But today I in

601
00:33:49,655 --> 00:33:51,655
Speaker 4: an eight year old building. There should have been a

602
00:33:51,695 --> 00:33:55,575
Speaker 4: survey certificate and the council inspector should have checked its

603
00:33:55,655 --> 00:33:59,615
Speaker 4: location in relation to the boundary and signed And by

604
00:33:59,655 --> 00:34:02,015
Speaker 4: signing off on the building, they've signed off on the location.

605
00:34:02,335 --> 00:34:04,695
Speaker 4: And it sounds like they've stuffed that up. Good luck

606
00:34:04,695 --> 00:34:06,815
Speaker 4: with all of that, Jim let us. Oh how you

607
00:34:06,895 --> 00:34:09,055
Speaker 4: get on? That's a hell of a thing. Oh, eight

608
00:34:09,175 --> 00:34:11,295
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

609
00:34:11,415 --> 00:34:13,375
Speaker 4: You can text as well, nine two nine two if

610
00:34:13,375 --> 00:34:16,495
Speaker 4: you'd like, semi a text all things building and construction.

611
00:34:16,695 --> 00:34:19,495
Speaker 4: But right now we'll take a short break. We'll come

612
00:34:19,535 --> 00:34:22,535
Speaker 4: back in just a moment. No break, right, We're going

613
00:34:22,615 --> 00:34:25,695
Speaker 4: to wait for just a little bit longer. It's quite

614
00:34:25,775 --> 00:34:29,815
Speaker 4: exciting at the Olympics right now. Another a reasonable chance

615
00:34:29,895 --> 00:34:31,735
Speaker 4: of another gold medal on top of what has been

616
00:34:31,775 --> 00:34:37,055
Speaker 4: an outstanding overnight performance for New Zealanders. Obviously, Lisa Carrington

617
00:34:37,895 --> 00:34:41,095
Speaker 4: in the k one and dear co in the golf

618
00:34:41,175 --> 00:34:44,815
Speaker 4: as well, both coming away with gold medals, increasing our

619
00:34:44,855 --> 00:34:48,575
Speaker 4: telly quite significantly. So we'll come back and have a

620
00:34:48,615 --> 00:34:51,015
Speaker 4: wee look at the Olympics in just a moment. If

621
00:34:51,055 --> 00:34:53,975
Speaker 4: you've got a question of a building nature, oh eight,

622
00:34:54,215 --> 00:34:57,535
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

623
00:34:59,535 --> 00:35:02,535
Speaker 4: Actually that's I was relating it initially to the height

624
00:35:02,535 --> 00:35:04,295
Speaker 4: of a door. I'm just trying to in my mind

625
00:35:04,375 --> 00:35:08,135
Speaker 4: think about what it's like to leap over two point

626
00:35:08,135 --> 00:35:11,495
Speaker 4: three six meters. And someone has pointed out and I

627
00:35:11,575 --> 00:35:13,415
Speaker 4: mentioned this as well on the text, Well, when you

628
00:35:13,455 --> 00:35:16,295
Speaker 4: think about a two point four stud, two point three

629
00:35:16,455 --> 00:35:20,695
Speaker 4: six is just forty milimeters less than that. So if

630
00:35:20,735 --> 00:35:24,495
Speaker 4: you've got a standard forty mili bit of coving, then

631
00:35:24,815 --> 00:35:26,455
Speaker 4: that's as high as you're jumping. So if you're in

632
00:35:26,495 --> 00:35:30,095
Speaker 4: a standard house these days, two point four meters, that's

633
00:35:30,375 --> 00:35:34,775
Speaker 4: leaping almost over that wall plate craky. It is a

634
00:35:34,815 --> 00:35:37,855
Speaker 4: staggering achievement, isn't it. You and newstalks'd be we're talking

635
00:35:37,935 --> 00:35:42,495
Speaker 4: all things building and construction. We are going to go

636
00:35:42,695 --> 00:35:43,535
Speaker 4: live to Paris.

637
00:35:48,975 --> 00:35:53,055
Speaker 11: Hang on just a moment, Maybe we are in a

638
00:35:53,095 --> 00:36:07,895
Speaker 11: situation where a jump off or be required, So they're

639
00:36:07,935 --> 00:36:10,815
Speaker 11: showing them, showing them in the joint gold medal position.

640
00:36:14,495 --> 00:36:15,495
Speaker 3: Two missus.

641
00:36:16,975 --> 00:36:19,935
Speaker 11: At an earlier height for McEwen, two misses at an

642
00:36:19,975 --> 00:36:21,055
Speaker 11: earlier height for Kerr.

643
00:36:22,895 --> 00:36:24,175
Speaker 3: McEwen's misses were at.

644
00:36:24,055 --> 00:36:31,415
Speaker 11: Two thirty four, Kerrs were at two thirty one. Can

645
00:36:31,455 --> 00:36:34,095
Speaker 11: Hamer's Kerr put it beyond doubt by clearing two thirty

646
00:36:34,135 --> 00:36:41,175
Speaker 11: eight three years ago we had joint gold medallists. Are

647
00:36:41,215 --> 00:36:53,295
Speaker 11: we headed down that track again? A jump for gold

648
00:36:53,335 --> 00:37:02,175
Speaker 11: though for Hamous care at two thirty eight, the biggest

649
00:37:02,255 --> 00:37:08,055
Speaker 11: jump of his career for Hamous kur If he goes

650
00:37:08,095 --> 00:37:12,375
Speaker 11: clear at two thirty eight, he wins the Olympic gold.

651
00:37:14,895 --> 00:37:15,815
Speaker 3: A miss.

652
00:37:16,975 --> 00:37:23,375
Speaker 11: And we leave ourselves in the hands of the officials.

653
00:37:27,135 --> 00:37:33,215
Speaker 11: Hamus Kerr gets the crowd going. His whole career has

654
00:37:33,295 --> 00:37:39,015
Speaker 11: led to this moment, this one moment on a Parisian night,

655
00:37:39,495 --> 00:37:45,215
Speaker 11: and he dives under the bar Hamous Kurr, so it's

656
00:37:45,255 --> 00:37:51,495
Speaker 11: not going to count. It's a miss, and now we wait.

657
00:37:53,775 --> 00:37:59,015
Speaker 11: Nobody seems to know what the situation is. They're showing

658
00:37:59,055 --> 00:38:03,895
Speaker 11: Hamish Kerr and Shelby McEwen as joint gold medalists at

659
00:38:03,935 --> 00:38:04,775
Speaker 11: the moment.

660
00:38:06,535 --> 00:38:07,335
Speaker 3: They come together.

661
00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:14,935
Speaker 11: Remember three years ago they shared the gold medal by

662
00:38:15,095 --> 00:38:22,735
Speaker 11: Sheem and Tim Berry up and I think they're going

663
00:38:22,775 --> 00:38:28,415
Speaker 11: to jump. Shelby McEwan seems to be indicating that we're

664
00:38:28,415 --> 00:38:29,295
Speaker 11: going to jump off.

665
00:38:29,135 --> 00:38:46,575
Speaker 12: For it back down.

666
00:38:40,295 --> 00:38:45,215
Speaker 11: So they are going to keep going. So apologies for

667
00:38:45,255 --> 00:38:50,735
Speaker 11: any confusion around a premature gold. Famous care is going

668
00:38:50,815 --> 00:38:59,935
Speaker 11: to have to do a bit more work. So back

669
00:38:59,935 --> 00:39:02,255
Speaker 11: out they come and we check.

670
00:39:04,295 --> 00:39:04,695
Speaker 3: The height.

671
00:39:05,375 --> 00:39:07,415
Speaker 11: Does it stay at two thirty eight or do they

672
00:39:07,415 --> 00:39:14,095
Speaker 11: bring it down? Well, they're showing now two forty on

673
00:39:14,135 --> 00:39:28,655
Speaker 11: the barge.

674
00:39:23,455 --> 00:39:27,135
Speaker 3: Just trying to decipher what is going on here.

675
00:39:27,175 --> 00:39:30,455
Speaker 11: Both mckiwen and Hamish Kurr have missed twice at two

676
00:39:30,495 --> 00:39:33,735
Speaker 11: thirty eight. I missed three times rather at two thirty eight,

677
00:39:36,735 --> 00:39:43,535
Speaker 11: and so where do we put the bar now? Lots

678
00:39:43,535 --> 00:39:50,175
Speaker 11: of activity in the jumping area.

679
00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:52,855
Speaker 3: McEwan's going to be first to go.

680
00:39:57,855 --> 00:40:00,735
Speaker 11: Now two thirty eight, it would appear, although the graphic

681
00:40:00,775 --> 00:40:08,655
Speaker 11: has quickly disappeared, it is at two thirty eight, so

682
00:40:08,695 --> 00:40:16,095
Speaker 11: they'll continue to jump at two thirty eight.

683
00:40:17,135 --> 00:40:18,815
Speaker 3: McEwen will be first to go.

684
00:40:21,015 --> 00:40:26,055
Speaker 11: With what is now his fourth attempt at this height.

685
00:40:27,615 --> 00:40:31,895
Speaker 11: Shall we McEwen from the left hand side two thirty

686
00:40:31,895 --> 00:40:34,255
Speaker 11: eight on the bar, and he can't get it done.

687
00:40:34,335 --> 00:40:40,375
Speaker 11: On the way up he crashes into the bar, So

688
00:40:40,735 --> 00:40:56,935
Speaker 11: a fourth miss at two thirty eight, and so presumably

689
00:40:56,975 --> 00:41:04,495
Speaker 11: now we're at sudden death a clearance provided the other

690
00:41:04,535 --> 00:41:09,655
Speaker 11: competitor doesn't clear, and you win. So Hamish Kerr has

691
00:41:09,695 --> 00:41:18,095
Speaker 11: I guess the advantage of going second.

692
00:41:28,935 --> 00:41:32,775
Speaker 3: Hamus Kurr just going through some.

693
00:41:35,655 --> 00:41:39,695
Speaker 11: Final preparations relacing the shoes, making sure there's absolutely no

694
00:41:39,775 --> 00:41:46,695
Speaker 11: possibility of any part of its clothing impeding what could

695
00:41:46,695 --> 00:41:50,935
Speaker 11: be a gold medal jump. So two thirty eight on

696
00:41:51,055 --> 00:41:55,415
Speaker 11: the bar. As we're in a jump off for gold

697
00:41:55,455 --> 00:42:07,735
Speaker 11: here mckiwan has missed in his first jump in the

698
00:42:07,855 --> 00:42:10,375
Speaker 11: jump off at two thirty eight.

699
00:42:11,215 --> 00:42:12,015
Speaker 3: Hamish cur.

700
00:42:14,495 --> 00:42:17,895
Speaker 11: Is next again addresses what would be a new personal best.

701
00:42:18,135 --> 00:42:21,855
Speaker 11: Here is cur and he flicks the bar with his back,

702
00:42:24,495 --> 00:42:30,375
Speaker 11: so a miss for kur at two thirty eight.

703
00:42:31,855 --> 00:42:33,055
Speaker 3: So they'll go again.

704
00:42:34,295 --> 00:42:48,735
Speaker 11: At the same height and Shelby McEwen is next. So

705
00:42:48,815 --> 00:42:53,295
Speaker 11: three years ago the gold medal was shared between Bashim

706
00:42:54,175 --> 00:42:58,855
Speaker 11: and Tambury, but McEwen and Kerr in no such mood

707
00:42:59,575 --> 00:43:01,775
Speaker 11: here in powis it was very different games of course

708
00:43:01,855 --> 00:43:04,615
Speaker 11: three years ago, so they bring it down to two

709
00:43:04,655 --> 00:43:09,615
Speaker 11: thirty six now, So it comes down to two thirty six.

710
00:43:12,255 --> 00:43:17,375
Speaker 11: Both McEwen and Kerr successful at two thirty six in

711
00:43:17,535 --> 00:43:20,535
Speaker 11: ordinary competition, but the pressure and the stakes are a

712
00:43:20,575 --> 00:43:27,255
Speaker 11: lot higher now. Hamus Kerr lying on his back, staring

713
00:43:27,335 --> 00:43:28,615
Speaker 11: up into the Paris night.

714
00:43:30,215 --> 00:43:35,015
Speaker 3: Shelby McEwen ready to have a look at two.

715
00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:47,615
Speaker 11: Thirty six, sudden death high drama high jump. McEwen at

716
00:43:47,655 --> 00:44:13,375
Speaker 11: two thirty six, asking for assistance from the crowd. Here

717
00:44:13,455 --> 00:44:18,535
Speaker 11: is McEwen, Can he put the pressure squarely on Hamish

718
00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:20,295
Speaker 11: Cur by clearing two thirty six.

719
00:44:20,375 --> 00:44:24,055
Speaker 3: Here from the left hand side.

720
00:44:24,215 --> 00:44:28,335
Speaker 11: Here is McEwen and he clips the bar and so

721
00:44:28,495 --> 00:44:34,575
Speaker 11: now Hamish cur with a jump at two thirty six

722
00:44:34,615 --> 00:44:51,935
Speaker 11: for gold. A Kewan misses at two thirty six. Presumably

723
00:44:52,615 --> 00:44:55,175
Speaker 11: if Kurr was to miss at two thirty six, they'd

724
00:44:55,215 --> 00:44:55,655
Speaker 11: go down to.

725
00:44:55,615 --> 00:44:56,655
Speaker 3: Two thirty four again.

726
00:44:57,375 --> 00:45:01,135
Speaker 11: But Hamish Kerr knows this is within his capability. He's

727
00:45:01,215 --> 00:45:06,175
Speaker 11: jumped two thirty six before before tonight did it again

728
00:45:06,495 --> 00:45:14,415
Speaker 11: night a jump for the Olympic gold medal for Hamosh

729
00:45:14,455 --> 00:45:23,735
Speaker 11: cur of New Zealand. Final few words of encouragement and

730
00:45:23,775 --> 00:45:33,255
Speaker 11: advice from coach James Sanderland's all eyes in this enormous

731
00:45:33,295 --> 00:45:37,895
Speaker 11: arena are on Kiwi Hamish cur.

732
00:45:45,375 --> 00:45:45,535
Speaker 3: On.

733
00:45:45,575 --> 00:45:50,975
Speaker 11: This the biggest stage of all, the biggest moment of

734
00:45:51,055 --> 00:45:58,855
Speaker 11: his high jumping career. Two thirty six for gold curve

735
00:45:58,895 --> 00:46:02,415
Speaker 11: from the right hand side, and he can't clear it.

736
00:46:03,935 --> 00:46:09,575
Speaker 11: He can't clear it, and so we drop again?

737
00:46:09,655 --> 00:46:23,055
Speaker 3: Do we drop again? So isn't this a funny old sport?

738
00:46:24,815 --> 00:46:27,775
Speaker 11: Hamus Kirk clear at two thirty six in normal competition

739
00:46:27,855 --> 00:46:29,895
Speaker 11: as was, She'll be McEwen.

740
00:46:33,535 --> 00:46:34,975
Speaker 3: Where are we going with the bar? Now?

741
00:46:37,175 --> 00:46:43,855
Speaker 11: Two thirty four again, it'll be McEwan to jump first.

742
00:46:53,015 --> 00:46:55,015
Speaker 3: I'm sure these two didn't expect to.

743
00:46:54,975 --> 00:47:00,695
Speaker 11: Have to jump this many jumps, this late into the night.

744
00:47:00,735 --> 00:47:03,215
Speaker 11: We're approaching nine o'clock in the evening.

745
00:47:11,135 --> 00:47:16,575
Speaker 3: Amous Kerr wanders over to the middle of the.

746
00:47:15,295 --> 00:47:26,695
Speaker 11: Arena, the high jump area, quick swig of his drink bottle.

747
00:47:28,375 --> 00:47:30,615
Speaker 11: He knows that he can clear two thirty four. He

748
00:47:30,695 --> 00:47:36,735
Speaker 11: knows it, but so tutors shellby McEwen. He knows it.

749
00:47:36,855 --> 00:47:41,815
Speaker 11: What high drama here in the high jump? So we

750
00:47:41,855 --> 00:47:46,255
Speaker 11: look at the countbacks shall be McEwen missed twice at

751
00:47:46,255 --> 00:47:48,855
Speaker 11: two thirty four. Those were his only missers up until

752
00:47:48,855 --> 00:47:51,535
Speaker 11: he missed all three times at two thirty eight, so

753
00:47:51,615 --> 00:47:56,055
Speaker 11: two misses for McEwen. Similarly, Kerr missed twice at two

754
00:47:56,095 --> 00:47:59,695
Speaker 11: thirty one. Those were his only two misses. So clearly

755
00:47:59,695 --> 00:48:02,095
Speaker 11: the height at which you miss doesn't matter in a countback,

756
00:48:02,375 --> 00:48:08,375
Speaker 11: it's just that you missed. So two misses for McEwen

757
00:48:08,695 --> 00:48:13,935
Speaker 11: to misses for Kerr. Neither could clear two thirty eight,

758
00:48:15,295 --> 00:48:18,495
Speaker 11: so into a jump off we go two thirty six.

759
00:48:19,575 --> 00:48:22,215
Speaker 3: Both missed. We're now at two thirty four.

760
00:48:24,455 --> 00:48:37,935
Speaker 11: A jumper piece at this height, this would be where

761
00:48:37,935 --> 00:48:40,015
Speaker 11: it would be really handy to be miked up with

762
00:48:40,055 --> 00:48:49,375
Speaker 11: the officials, as we're really only going from the pictures

763
00:48:49,375 --> 00:48:55,695
Speaker 11: we're seeing on the screen. But as I understand it,

764
00:48:55,815 --> 00:49:03,735
Speaker 11: the bar is at two thirty four and Kerr and

765
00:49:03,815 --> 00:49:12,855
Speaker 11: McEwen will have one jump each at it. M kewan

766
00:49:12,935 --> 00:49:22,415
Speaker 11: goes for a fresh water. He's wandering around as we

767
00:49:24,935 --> 00:49:38,695
Speaker 11: just wait, We just wait. Something we didn't expect at

768
00:49:38,695 --> 00:49:43,975
Speaker 11: this stage at seven o'clock. We might take a break

769
00:49:44,015 --> 00:49:51,495
Speaker 11: shortly or shall we stay with it? Seems to be

770
00:49:51,535 --> 00:49:59,015
Speaker 11: a short delay in proceedings. The reason we're breaking is

771
00:49:59,015 --> 00:50:02,215
Speaker 11: because the four by four hundred meter final is about

772
00:50:02,215 --> 00:50:05,495
Speaker 11: to get underway. So just checking that we can take

773
00:50:05,495 --> 00:50:10,255
Speaker 11: a break for this, I think we probably can be

774
00:50:10,415 --> 00:50:14,775
Speaker 11: good with that mark to take a break, Let's stay

775
00:50:14,815 --> 00:50:22,775
Speaker 11: with it. Let's stay with it. So at the moment,

776
00:50:23,015 --> 00:50:27,095
Speaker 11: Hamish Kerr and Shelby McEwen just have to wait for

777
00:50:27,135 --> 00:50:29,495
Speaker 11: the four by four hundred meter relay to play out.

778
00:50:29,535 --> 00:50:36,815
Speaker 11: This adds further drama too, and already emotion packed high

779
00:50:36,895 --> 00:50:40,775
Speaker 11: jump competition, we've got the men's four by four hundred

780
00:50:40,775 --> 00:50:45,695
Speaker 11: me to relay final about to get underweight. That'll take

781
00:50:46,215 --> 00:50:49,655
Speaker 11: three or four minutes, three or four minutes of waiting

782
00:50:49,735 --> 00:50:58,815
Speaker 11: time for Hamish Kurr and Shelby McEwen. Don't worry, you

783
00:50:58,855 --> 00:51:04,455
Speaker 11: won't miss anything. We'll make sure that you're with us.

784
00:51:04,455 --> 00:51:07,215
Speaker 11: When these two have their ten to two thirty four

785
00:51:09,095 --> 00:51:11,295
Speaker 11: silence around de France for the start of the four

786
00:51:11,295 --> 00:51:16,615
Speaker 11: by four hundred meter relay, Shelby McEwan looks across and

787
00:51:18,175 --> 00:51:20,615
Speaker 11: I guess shows a little bit of interest in his team,

788
00:51:21,655 --> 00:51:22,415
Speaker 11: the United.

789
00:51:22,135 --> 00:51:23,975
Speaker 3: States of America. He gets up and has a look.

790
00:51:31,415 --> 00:51:33,815
Speaker 11: So three minutes worth of this four by four hundred

791
00:51:33,815 --> 00:51:37,455
Speaker 11: meter relay, we're back after this with the conclusion of

792
00:51:37,495 --> 00:51:47,175
Speaker 11: the men's high jump, and we are back as Shelby

793
00:51:47,255 --> 00:51:54,415
Speaker 11: McEwen was applauding and encouraging his four by four hundred

794
00:51:54,455 --> 00:52:00,695
Speaker 11: meter relate countrymen, but he is now going to have

795
00:52:00,735 --> 00:52:04,335
Speaker 11: his attempt. Here is Shelby McEwen.

796
00:52:05,495 --> 00:52:10,695
Speaker 3: At two thirty to put pressure on Hamish Cur.

797
00:52:12,295 --> 00:52:19,255
Speaker 11: McEwen two thirty four has PB before today, approaches from

798
00:52:19,255 --> 00:52:22,175
Speaker 11: the left hand side of the American and misses at.

799
00:52:22,015 --> 00:52:22,895
Speaker 3: Two thirty four.

800
00:52:27,015 --> 00:52:33,575
Speaker 11: So what an opportunity now for Hamish Cur. A clarance

801
00:52:33,615 --> 00:52:36,375
Speaker 11: at two thirty four and the gold medal is his

802
00:52:40,095 --> 00:52:42,615
Speaker 11: surely not in the way that he expected or any

803
00:52:42,695 --> 00:52:51,775
Speaker 11: of us did. So three misses at two thirty eight

804
00:52:53,135 --> 00:52:56,415
Speaker 11: for McEwen, another miss at two thirty eight, another miss

805
00:52:56,455 --> 00:52:58,975
Speaker 11: at two thirty six, and a miss at two thirty four.

806
00:52:59,375 --> 00:53:06,095
Speaker 11: As we work our way back down, Hamish Cur looks

807
00:53:06,135 --> 00:53:12,015
Speaker 11: at two thirty four on the bar as the four

808
00:53:12,015 --> 00:53:17,895
Speaker 11: by four hundred meter relay passes by again. Well, Shelby

809
00:53:17,975 --> 00:53:21,855
Speaker 11: McEwan had his jump during the relay. Hamish Kurgi just

810
00:53:23,095 --> 00:53:35,215
Speaker 11: sorting his foot wear out. He's on the other side

811
00:53:35,255 --> 00:53:37,695
Speaker 11: of the running track, Hamish curse, so he is going

812
00:53:37,695 --> 00:53:41,095
Speaker 11: to have to wait for the conclusion of the four

813
00:53:41,135 --> 00:53:45,255
Speaker 11: by four hundred meter relay, which is currently into its

814
00:53:45,295 --> 00:53:48,095
Speaker 11: third leg as the.

815
00:53:47,215 --> 00:53:50,095
Speaker 3: Runners pass by the high jump area.

816
00:53:54,775 --> 00:53:58,015
Speaker 11: One more lap of the four by four hundred or

817
00:53:58,055 --> 00:54:01,775
Speaker 11: will Hamish curR have his opportunity now that they've passed by.

818
00:54:02,455 --> 00:54:04,815
Speaker 3: Let's see.

819
00:54:05,655 --> 00:54:10,535
Speaker 11: He is I think going to address this attempt now.

820
00:54:21,775 --> 00:54:25,135
Speaker 11: In fact, the relayers done and dusted, so now we

821
00:54:25,255 --> 00:54:34,775
Speaker 11: can get under way. Massive moment in the track and

822
00:54:34,815 --> 00:54:41,735
Speaker 11: field career of New Zealand's Hamish curve two meters thirty

823
00:54:41,815 --> 00:54:50,695
Speaker 11: four on the bar, the calm serenity masking a deep

824
00:54:51,535 --> 00:54:59,455
Speaker 11: resilience and commitment to hours and weeks and years of training.

825
00:54:59,495 --> 00:55:00,455
Speaker 11: Hamer's curve for the.

826
00:55:00,375 --> 00:55:04,175
Speaker 3: Gold middle Kiwi's can fly.

827
00:55:05,655 --> 00:55:12,735
Speaker 11: And cur scales his everest and his high jump Olympic champion,

828
00:55:14,895 --> 00:55:19,535
Speaker 11: and he is away. Hamous cur sprinting around this arena

829
00:55:20,535 --> 00:55:22,055
Speaker 11: arms wide.

830
00:55:22,775 --> 00:55:24,935
Speaker 3: He is an Olympic champion.

831
00:55:26,295 --> 00:55:31,695
Speaker 11: In the most dramatic of high jump finals, Hamous curve

832
00:55:31,815 --> 00:55:37,055
Speaker 11: brings it home for New Zealand's What a moment. For

833
00:55:37,175 --> 00:55:42,135
Speaker 11: the first time ever, New Zealand has a high jump

834
00:55:42,295 --> 00:55:47,815
Speaker 11: champion at an Olympic Games, and it couldn't happen to

835
00:55:47,895 --> 00:55:52,535
Speaker 11: a bitter bloke. Hamous Curb by way of a jump

836
00:55:52,575 --> 00:55:57,935
Speaker 11: off with Shelby McKellen of the United States, has got

837
00:55:57,935 --> 00:56:01,415
Speaker 11: it done and will stand on the top step of

838
00:56:01,415 --> 00:56:08,335
Speaker 11: the podium. Remarkable, remarkable from Hamoerus cur What a moment

839
00:56:08,415 --> 00:56:13,495
Speaker 11: for him. He embraces the other competitors. Marco Tamburry a

840
00:56:13,535 --> 00:56:15,935
Speaker 11: gold medalist three years ago.

841
00:56:16,295 --> 00:56:20,095
Speaker 4: What a fantastic event. And then the in your head

842
00:56:20,335 --> 00:56:22,935
Speaker 4: waiting for the relay to finish as well keeping your

843
00:56:22,935 --> 00:56:27,815
Speaker 4: composure and then jumping two point three four meters for

844
00:56:27,895 --> 00:56:36,135
Speaker 4: an Olympic gold medal. Fantastic. More in news and sport. Well,

845
00:56:36,135 --> 00:56:37,575
Speaker 4: to be fair, I don't think I'm ever going to

846
00:56:37,575 --> 00:56:40,175
Speaker 4: look at a two point four stud in the same

847
00:56:40,175 --> 00:56:43,575
Speaker 4: way in my life. Again, that was remarkable. So having

848
00:56:43,655 --> 00:56:46,055
Speaker 4: stood any number of frames over many, many years, and

849
00:56:46,095 --> 00:56:48,855
Speaker 4: typically our New Zealand construction, it's two point four meters

850
00:56:48,895 --> 00:56:51,175
Speaker 4: as a stard height. So if you're wandering around you're

851
00:56:51,175 --> 00:56:53,375
Speaker 4: looking at your ceiling right now, you're thinking about Hamish

852
00:56:53,415 --> 00:56:57,495
Speaker 4: cur leaping almost that height. So to win gold medal

853
00:56:57,535 --> 00:57:01,175
Speaker 4: in a very very exciting manner and kind of not

854
00:57:01,295 --> 00:57:04,095
Speaker 4: quite fascical but the fact that their run up leads

855
00:57:04,095 --> 00:57:05,655
Speaker 4: across the track and they had to wait for a

856
00:57:05,695 --> 00:57:09,575
Speaker 4: little while while the men's four by four hundred meter

857
00:57:09,895 --> 00:57:13,015
Speaker 4: final was taking place. And then to keep your head,

858
00:57:13,775 --> 00:57:16,815
Speaker 4: you know, to keep your mind on the task while

859
00:57:16,855 --> 00:57:19,495
Speaker 4: all of this other activity is going on. And then

860
00:57:19,575 --> 00:57:21,815
Speaker 4: to have achieved two point three meters, but to win

861
00:57:21,855 --> 00:57:25,055
Speaker 4: the gold by jumping two point three to four is remarkable.

862
00:57:25,095 --> 00:57:28,615
Speaker 4: We will go to the metal ceremony that'll be in

863
00:57:28,655 --> 00:57:31,375
Speaker 4: about an hour's time. So anyway, it's been a very

864
00:57:31,495 --> 00:57:33,535
Speaker 4: very exciting morning and a great morning for New Zealand

865
00:57:33,615 --> 00:57:37,055
Speaker 4: sport as well at the Olympics, with obviously overnight Lisa

866
00:57:37,135 --> 00:57:40,215
Speaker 4: Carrington gold medal in the K one to five hundred,

867
00:57:41,175 --> 00:57:44,975
Speaker 4: Lydia Co in the golf and now Hamish curR in

868
00:57:45,015 --> 00:57:48,095
Speaker 4: the high jump as well, so three gold medals overnight.

869
00:57:48,975 --> 00:57:51,575
Speaker 4: And thank you very much for persevering with us. It's

870
00:57:51,615 --> 00:57:53,855
Speaker 4: exciting to catch up with a sort of news, right.

871
00:57:53,935 --> 00:57:57,775
Speaker 4: We are talking building construction and stard Heights. Eight hundred

872
00:57:57,815 --> 00:57:59,735
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If you've

873
00:57:59,735 --> 00:58:02,055
Speaker 4: got a building question, you can call us now. If

874
00:58:02,095 --> 00:58:06,735
Speaker 4: you have a specific painting question, then Bryce mc our

875
00:58:06,815 --> 00:58:09,895
Speaker 4: painting expert will be with us in about ten minutes actually,

876
00:58:10,495 --> 00:58:13,015
Speaker 4: so if you've got a specific painting question, text them

877
00:58:13,015 --> 00:58:16,815
Speaker 4: through to nine to nine two and Jerry the most

878
00:58:16,855 --> 00:58:18,975
Speaker 4: patient man I know. Thank you for waiting in a

879
00:58:19,055 --> 00:58:20,135
Speaker 4: very good morning to you, Jerry.

880
00:58:21,535 --> 00:58:25,455
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, good morning. Yes, I was very exciting just

881
00:58:25,615 --> 00:58:29,535
Speaker 7: to hear that metal victory by Hamish.

882
00:58:29,695 --> 00:58:33,455
Speaker 4: What I find, apart from the fact that I find

883
00:58:33,455 --> 00:58:36,215
Speaker 4: it difficult to comprehend what it must be like to

884
00:58:36,255 --> 00:58:39,455
Speaker 4: be able to leap that high in that particular event,

885
00:58:39,495 --> 00:58:42,615
Speaker 4: for all of that other activity because there were races

886
00:58:42,655 --> 00:58:44,935
Speaker 4: on the track, right, there's athletic events on the track,

887
00:58:45,255 --> 00:58:47,135
Speaker 4: so you kind of have to wait for other people

888
00:58:47,135 --> 00:58:49,855
Speaker 4: to do their thing and then you can do your thing.

889
00:58:49,935 --> 00:58:54,615
Speaker 4: So keeping your head straight is phenomenal anyway, right, Oh, what.

890
00:58:55,175 --> 00:58:55,975
Speaker 3: Can we watch?

891
00:58:56,055 --> 00:58:58,655
Speaker 4: We talk about Let's talk the basements.

892
00:58:59,135 --> 00:59:03,055
Speaker 7: Yes, I've wondered about this question for many many years. Sure,

893
00:59:03,175 --> 00:59:07,375
Speaker 7: I lived overseas in America and all the places that

894
00:59:07,455 --> 00:59:10,535
Speaker 7: I lived in we always had a basement. And now

895
00:59:11,015 --> 00:59:12,815
Speaker 7: that I'm living here in New Zealand for the past

896
00:59:12,815 --> 00:59:16,735
Speaker 7: ten years, I have never encountered anybody and any home

897
00:59:17,015 --> 00:59:21,095
Speaker 7: or any dwelling that has a basement. Is there something

898
00:59:21,215 --> 00:59:26,055
Speaker 7: in the New Zealand soil, Is there something in the

899
00:59:26,095 --> 00:59:30,455
Speaker 7: New Zealand soil, or just the way you know, I

900
00:59:30,735 --> 00:59:33,895
Speaker 7: just don't understand why there are no basements now in

901
00:59:33,935 --> 00:59:36,255
Speaker 7: the New Zealand housing business.

902
00:59:37,335 --> 00:59:39,255
Speaker 4: Now, let's just be a bit clear on this, because

903
00:59:39,295 --> 00:59:42,895
Speaker 4: people do have basements, right in the sense that if

904
00:59:42,895 --> 00:59:45,175
Speaker 4: you're a two storied house and maybe you're built into

905
00:59:45,215 --> 00:59:48,535
Speaker 4: a bank, you'll excavate, you'll do a retaining wall, and

906
00:59:48,615 --> 00:59:51,855
Speaker 4: that it's not quite a basement. So when you're talking basement,

907
00:59:51,895 --> 00:59:53,935
Speaker 4: you're talking about a house that when you look at

908
00:59:53,975 --> 00:59:56,295
Speaker 4: it from the street, you know, the ground floor might

909
00:59:56,335 --> 00:59:58,535
Speaker 4: be a meter off the ground, let's say, But when

910
00:59:58,575 --> 01:00:00,695
Speaker 4: you go inside the house, you can go down and

911
01:00:00,735 --> 01:00:05,015
Speaker 4: you'll have a cellar. So my family's from the Netherlands,

912
01:00:05,015 --> 01:00:06,815
Speaker 4: and when I go back and at some of my

913
01:00:06,855 --> 01:00:09,575
Speaker 4: aunties and uncles, they will often have what they call

914
01:00:09,615 --> 01:00:12,775
Speaker 4: a calder a cellar, right, And this might be in

915
01:00:12,815 --> 01:00:15,615
Speaker 4: a relatively small house and you go downstairs and it's

916
01:00:15,695 --> 01:00:19,935
Speaker 4: kind of a cool storage space. And having spent a

917
01:00:19,935 --> 01:00:21,375
Speaker 4: little bit of time in the States as well, I

918
01:00:21,375 --> 01:00:24,895
Speaker 4: know exactly what you mean that you'll do a basement, right,

919
01:00:24,935 --> 01:00:28,975
Speaker 4: it'll be often for storage or utilities and that sort

920
01:00:29,015 --> 01:00:32,855
Speaker 4: of thing. And like you, I've often wondered why we

921
01:00:32,935 --> 01:00:36,535
Speaker 4: don't build like that in New Zealand as well. And

922
01:00:36,895 --> 01:00:40,455
Speaker 4: I think if I had the opportunity and I know,

923
01:00:40,815 --> 01:00:43,295
Speaker 4: heighten relation to boundary and site coverage and all those

924
01:00:43,295 --> 01:00:47,375
Speaker 4: sorts of things, if I wanted like a single level dwelling,

925
01:00:47,455 --> 01:00:49,495
Speaker 4: and I had the opportunity of let's say, having that

926
01:00:49,575 --> 01:00:52,055
Speaker 4: floor AT's say a meter off the ground, I would

927
01:00:52,055 --> 01:00:57,055
Speaker 4: probably seriously consider doing a basement exactly like that. So yeah,

928
01:00:57,135 --> 01:00:59,535
Speaker 4: I do wonder. I don't know what it is, whether

929
01:00:59,575 --> 01:01:03,335
Speaker 4: it's our designers are not familiar with it. There's no

930
01:01:03,535 --> 01:01:06,855
Speaker 4: reason that. I mean, I've done plenty of basement developments

931
01:01:06,855 --> 01:01:09,895
Speaker 4: where we've dealt with issues, you know, often around moisture,

932
01:01:09,975 --> 01:01:12,495
Speaker 4: for example, because what you don't want is for that

933
01:01:12,615 --> 01:01:15,855
Speaker 4: to become a swimming pool or a tank underneath the house.

934
01:01:15,895 --> 01:01:19,135
Speaker 4: But you can deal with that. So no, it's a

935
01:01:19,175 --> 01:01:19,775
Speaker 4: mystery to me.

936
01:01:21,615 --> 01:01:26,495
Speaker 7: But there's nothing wrong with the actual soil composition in

937
01:01:26,535 --> 01:01:27,535
Speaker 7: New Zealand.

938
01:01:28,015 --> 01:01:30,815
Speaker 4: I can't imagine. So I mean, you know, I mean

939
01:01:30,855 --> 01:01:34,775
Speaker 4: you think about Wisconsin for it, name just you know,

940
01:01:34,895 --> 01:01:37,855
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there are thousands of houses in Wisconsin

941
01:01:37,975 --> 01:01:40,775
Speaker 4: where with basements, right, and it will freeze and you'll

942
01:01:40,815 --> 01:01:43,335
Speaker 4: get two or three meters of snow in winter. We

943
01:01:43,375 --> 01:01:46,575
Speaker 4: had friends who were living just outside of Boston, for example,

944
01:01:46,855 --> 01:01:48,895
Speaker 4: and they would get two or three meters of snow

945
01:01:49,015 --> 01:01:51,655
Speaker 4: in the winter, and they probably had a basement, and

946
01:01:51,695 --> 01:01:53,855
Speaker 4: I'm sure the basement was designed to cope with that

947
01:01:54,695 --> 01:01:57,495
Speaker 4: in areas perhaps where I mean, you obviously wouldn't want

948
01:01:57,535 --> 01:01:59,335
Speaker 4: to do it in areas that are prone to flooding.

949
01:02:00,375 --> 01:02:03,095
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking where I live, we could easily do

950
01:02:03,135 --> 01:02:08,215
Speaker 4: a basement. So yeah, no, I really don't. It's a

951
01:02:08,255 --> 01:02:09,215
Speaker 4: mystery to me as well.

952
01:02:09,175 --> 01:02:15,615
Speaker 7: Jerry, So just quickly, in Australia the same pattern basically

953
01:02:15,855 --> 01:02:18,575
Speaker 7: is the same as in New Zealand. Very I just

954
01:02:18,975 --> 01:02:21,015
Speaker 7: I don't understand why that would be as well.

955
01:02:21,895 --> 01:02:24,615
Speaker 4: And the other thing that amuses me about it is that,

956
01:02:24,895 --> 01:02:27,855
Speaker 4: you know, for most of us, a serious issue is

957
01:02:27,855 --> 01:02:30,615
Speaker 4: because we're consumerists, right, we end up with a whole

958
01:02:30,695 --> 01:02:33,535
Speaker 4: lot of stuff, and so one of the great challenges

959
01:02:33,575 --> 01:02:35,655
Speaker 4: with most people's houses is where do I put all

960
01:02:35,655 --> 01:02:38,535
Speaker 4: my stuff? So why wouldn't you do a basement? You know?

961
01:02:38,615 --> 01:02:40,695
Speaker 4: If you had, let's say, a house with a floor

962
01:02:40,775 --> 01:02:44,215
Speaker 4: plan of one hundred and fifty square meters, right, single

963
01:02:44,215 --> 01:02:46,215
Speaker 4: story dwelling one hundred and fifty square meters, and you

964
01:02:46,255 --> 01:02:49,295
Speaker 4: had a sixty square meter basement down below that you

965
01:02:49,295 --> 01:02:52,335
Speaker 4: could use for storage, that would be amazing.

966
01:02:54,055 --> 01:02:56,935
Speaker 7: All right, Peter, I'll just don't know. On a humorous note,

967
01:02:57,335 --> 01:02:59,455
Speaker 7: I used to enjoy I used to enjoy listening to

968
01:02:59,495 --> 01:03:05,095
Speaker 7: the song Clap for the wolf Man. So no, no,

969
01:03:05,215 --> 01:03:08,695
Speaker 7: I'm clapping for wolf camp man.

970
01:03:09,775 --> 01:03:11,735
Speaker 4: I'm going to look that up. I've never heard of it,

971
01:03:11,815 --> 01:03:19,055
Speaker 4: Clap for the wolf Man. Alrighty, that could be my

972
01:03:19,095 --> 01:03:21,935
Speaker 4: new intro song. You might have started something, Jerry. I

973
01:03:21,975 --> 01:03:24,415
Speaker 4: really appreciate your time. You have a great day. Take

974
01:03:24,455 --> 01:03:29,255
Speaker 4: care by I mean, this is the great thing about traveling,

975
01:03:29,295 --> 01:03:31,095
Speaker 4: I guess, and the great thing about being able to

976
01:03:31,135 --> 01:03:34,255
Speaker 4: move around is to see how other people build as well.

977
01:03:34,295 --> 01:03:38,095
Speaker 4: And for those of you who might have been anywhere

978
01:03:38,095 --> 01:03:40,175
Speaker 4: in Europe almost but I can remember going to my

979
01:03:40,255 --> 01:03:43,535
Speaker 4: aunt Ince to her house, and it was a relatively

980
01:03:44,095 --> 01:03:48,095
Speaker 4: compact house, as many Dutch houses are stand alone, so

981
01:03:48,215 --> 01:03:51,495
Speaker 4: small plot of land, relatively small house, too storied, and

982
01:03:51,535 --> 01:03:54,215
Speaker 4: then just underneath the stairs was another little set of

983
01:03:54,255 --> 01:03:57,095
Speaker 4: stairs that went down to the calder. There's probably only

984
01:03:57,415 --> 01:04:00,335
Speaker 4: four meters square something like that, but that's where you

985
01:04:00,495 --> 01:04:05,935
Speaker 4: store vegetables, produce extra food, a little bits and pieces.

986
01:04:06,775 --> 01:04:10,095
Speaker 4: I often do wonder why we don't do basements as

987
01:04:10,095 --> 01:04:13,615
Speaker 4: in sellars when we're constructing in New Zealand, partly for

988
01:04:13,695 --> 01:04:17,415
Speaker 4: storage and partly for well all ways for storage utilities

989
01:04:17,455 --> 01:04:21,215
Speaker 4: as well. Imagine if you could put your heating system

990
01:04:21,295 --> 01:04:24,855
Speaker 4: somewhere that's accessible, or your ventilation system, or your hot

991
01:04:24,895 --> 01:04:28,975
Speaker 4: water system, even your distribution board, all of these sorts

992
01:04:29,015 --> 01:04:33,495
Speaker 4: of things in an area that you could readily get

993
01:04:33,535 --> 01:04:37,095
Speaker 4: access to anyway. It's an interesting thought. Oh eight one

994
01:04:37,135 --> 01:04:38,935
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty, ten eighty, we'll take a short break.

995
01:04:38,975 --> 01:04:40,695
Speaker 4: We'll be back with more of your calls and just

996
01:04:41,655 --> 01:04:43,375
Speaker 4: your news storks. The'd be and it's a great pleasure

997
01:04:43,375 --> 01:04:46,215
Speaker 4: to welcome back to the program our painting expert Bryce

998
01:04:46,295 --> 01:04:48,775
Speaker 4: McDermott from Razine. Good morning, Bryce.

999
01:04:49,135 --> 01:04:52,095
Speaker 7: Good morning, How are you very well, very very.

1000
01:04:51,895 --> 01:04:54,255
Speaker 4: Well and quite excited to be fair to watch that

1001
01:04:54,815 --> 01:04:57,855
Speaker 4: or to hear the Olympic coverage. So it's been a

1002
01:04:57,895 --> 01:05:00,415
Speaker 4: golden kind of day at the Olympics for New Zealand.

1003
01:05:01,295 --> 01:05:03,855
Speaker 6: It's just a pity that the Albis couldn't.

1004
01:05:06,415 --> 01:05:10,535
Speaker 4: I didn't well, I wasn't going to mention it either, right, hey, look,

1005
01:05:10,535 --> 01:05:12,735
Speaker 4: I tell you what can we start with? And it

1006
01:05:12,815 --> 01:05:16,855
Speaker 4: was one of our first callers today, Dave, who is

1007
01:05:17,375 --> 01:05:21,095
Speaker 4: has has bought a new build and is a bit

1008
01:05:21,095 --> 01:05:24,615
Speaker 4: disappointed by some of the standard of the finishing inside.

1009
01:05:24,615 --> 01:05:27,175
Speaker 4: And one of the things he commented on was paint work.

1010
01:05:27,495 --> 01:05:29,535
Speaker 4: And I said to him, look, you've got to understand

1011
01:05:29,615 --> 01:05:34,135
Speaker 4: there is a guide to tolerances. Right, So in terms

1012
01:05:34,175 --> 01:05:36,375
Speaker 4: of like you would often I would imagine in your

1013
01:05:36,415 --> 01:05:39,215
Speaker 4: professional role get called out to jobs where someone goes,

1014
01:05:39,495 --> 01:05:41,255
Speaker 4: I don't think the painter has done a good job,

1015
01:05:41,375 --> 01:05:43,055
Speaker 4: or I don't think the paint is any good, or

1016
01:05:43,055 --> 01:05:48,215
Speaker 4: something like that. So what's the actual kind of official

1017
01:05:48,455 --> 01:05:52,055
Speaker 4: tolerance guide Where can people find that? If you know,

1018
01:05:52,135 --> 01:05:54,695
Speaker 4: someone calls you and says, look, i've had this painter

1019
01:05:54,855 --> 01:05:56,615
Speaker 4: and I don't think it's very good, come and have

1020
01:05:56,615 --> 01:05:59,975
Speaker 4: a look at it. What criteria do you use and

1021
01:05:59,975 --> 01:06:04,015
Speaker 4: what criteria are there for judging the quality of paint work?

1022
01:06:05,295 --> 01:06:08,735
Speaker 6: Well to take off the you know, the the actual

1023
01:06:09,295 --> 01:06:14,335
Speaker 6: paint itself, it's not really you know, paint issue is

1024
01:06:14,815 --> 01:06:20,255
Speaker 6: so it's a normally issue. Yeah, So you know, I

1025
01:06:20,375 --> 01:06:23,815
Speaker 6: generally refer people back to the master Painters on their website.

1026
01:06:23,855 --> 01:06:27,975
Speaker 6: There is a level of inspection information that you can

1027
01:06:28,095 --> 01:06:34,615
Speaker 6: you can actually use to have a look, but it

1028
01:06:34,695 --> 01:06:37,295
Speaker 6: just tells you, you know, how to basically inspect a

1029
01:06:37,295 --> 01:06:39,495
Speaker 6: paint surface and things like that, like if you're looking

1030
01:06:39,495 --> 01:06:41,775
Speaker 6: at a wall, for instance, you stand a meter back

1031
01:06:41,895 --> 01:06:45,175
Speaker 6: and have a look and see if there's any glaring

1032
01:06:45,215 --> 01:06:48,975
Speaker 6: defects or anything like that. Yeah, you know, not stand

1033
01:06:49,255 --> 01:06:51,295
Speaker 6: like two or three inches away from the surface or

1034
01:06:51,335 --> 01:06:53,215
Speaker 6: lie down on the floor look at the skooting and

1035
01:06:53,255 --> 01:06:57,215
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I would generally refer people back

1036
01:06:57,255 --> 01:07:00,975
Speaker 6: to that in the first instance, basically because you know,

1037
01:07:01,135 --> 01:07:03,895
Speaker 6: it's the painter is only as good as the man

1038
01:07:04,215 --> 01:07:07,895
Speaker 6: who is putting it on. And I say that was

1039
01:07:08,055 --> 01:07:09,095
Speaker 6: the greatest of care.

1040
01:07:11,175 --> 01:07:14,015
Speaker 4: So there is a reasonableness, isn't there? And you're right,

1041
01:07:14,055 --> 01:07:16,935
Speaker 4: and I'm sure we've all encountered the gross respect clients

1042
01:07:16,975 --> 01:07:20,815
Speaker 4: that go, hey, look here I am, I'm standing ten

1043
01:07:21,215 --> 01:07:24,175
Speaker 4: centimeters away from the surface and I've noticed that there's

1044
01:07:24,175 --> 01:07:26,295
Speaker 4: an imperfection in the paint work. And you go, well,

1045
01:07:26,295 --> 01:07:28,695
Speaker 4: hang on, that's not a reasonable standard. So there is

1046
01:07:28,735 --> 01:07:32,695
Speaker 4: there's a guide to tolerances, okay, and that's interesting. You

1047
01:07:32,735 --> 01:07:36,775
Speaker 4: mentioned master painters, So for someone who's concerned about the

1048
01:07:36,855 --> 01:07:38,615
Speaker 4: quality of their work, they could go to that and

1049
01:07:38,735 --> 01:07:42,095
Speaker 4: use some of that documentation as a guide, I guess,

1050
01:07:42,175 --> 01:07:42,855
Speaker 4: or as a reference.

1051
01:07:43,615 --> 01:07:46,775
Speaker 6: Yep. Yeah, it's just keeping it neutral in the first place,

1052
01:07:46,775 --> 01:07:48,695
Speaker 6: and everybody knows where they stand.

1053
01:07:48,935 --> 01:07:53,175
Speaker 4: Well, that's good. So we had a text along similar line.

1054
01:07:53,215 --> 01:07:55,255
Speaker 4: So that's good that we've covered that off, right. Yah,

1055
01:07:55,335 --> 01:07:58,015
Speaker 4: let's rip into a couple of text for you, Bryce. Hey, Pete,

1056
01:07:58,015 --> 01:08:01,335
Speaker 4: I've got some damp wooden treated fence palings that I

1057
01:08:01,335 --> 01:08:03,975
Speaker 4: want to paint. How dry do they have to do

1058
01:08:04,175 --> 01:08:05,935
Speaker 4: they have to be before I can paint them?

1059
01:08:05,975 --> 01:08:10,895
Speaker 6: From Well, they're generally full of treatment as well, right,

1060
01:08:11,295 --> 01:08:13,775
Speaker 6: because because they come If you look at the way

1061
01:08:13,895 --> 01:08:17,015
Speaker 6: palings are delivered, they're bundled up on a pallet and

1062
01:08:17,095 --> 01:08:20,575
Speaker 6: strapped in big bundles, so they don't really get to

1063
01:08:20,575 --> 01:08:24,655
Speaker 6: get a chance to dry. So you know, nail them

1064
01:08:24,655 --> 01:08:26,775
Speaker 6: all up, stick them on the fence, and you know,

1065
01:08:26,895 --> 01:08:29,055
Speaker 6: give it a week or two. I don't think that

1066
01:08:29,055 --> 01:08:31,975
Speaker 6: that would be unreasonable. It just depends on the amount

1067
01:08:31,975 --> 01:08:35,455
Speaker 6: of moisture and the timber, okay, and the treatment itself,

1068
01:08:35,975 --> 01:08:38,415
Speaker 6: you know, just just let the wind and stuff like

1069
01:08:38,415 --> 01:08:39,135
Speaker 6: that get to it.

1070
01:08:40,455 --> 01:08:43,095
Speaker 4: Certainly, don't be putting them up and painting them the

1071
01:08:43,135 --> 01:08:43,615
Speaker 4: next day.

1072
01:08:44,295 --> 01:08:47,055
Speaker 6: No, just just give them, just give them a chance

1073
01:08:47,135 --> 01:08:49,655
Speaker 6: to sort of, you know, because if they're in the

1074
01:08:49,655 --> 01:08:52,015
Speaker 6: middle of the palette or the stack of timber, they

1075
01:08:52,055 --> 01:08:54,175
Speaker 6: can actually be quite moldy as well, depending on the

1076
01:08:54,215 --> 01:08:55,175
Speaker 6: time of storage.

1077
01:08:55,695 --> 01:09:00,055
Speaker 4: Right right now, this is an interesting one. Greetings. I've

1078
01:09:00,095 --> 01:09:03,735
Speaker 4: recently purchased a house which is clad and batten and

1079
01:09:03,775 --> 01:09:08,175
Speaker 4: boored macrocarpa. It's approximate twenty five years old. It's in

1080
01:09:08,255 --> 01:09:11,455
Speaker 4: good condition. It was water blasted prior to sail, so

1081
01:09:11,535 --> 01:09:14,775
Speaker 4: it's a golden color. Should I stain it with something

1082
01:09:15,175 --> 01:09:18,175
Speaker 4: or let it gray off again? From Paul?

1083
01:09:18,775 --> 01:09:23,415
Speaker 6: Wow, well, yeah, it can be stained. I would look

1084
01:09:23,455 --> 01:09:28,535
Speaker 6: at something in our Woodsmen range the Woodsmen stains, remembering

1085
01:09:28,575 --> 01:09:30,575
Speaker 6: of course that you know, once you stained something, you

1086
01:09:30,615 --> 01:09:35,495
Speaker 6: know you will be looking at you know, every two years,

1087
01:09:35,495 --> 01:09:38,295
Speaker 6: you'll be you know, doing some maintenance coats as well. Yes,

1088
01:09:39,335 --> 01:09:42,135
Speaker 6: generally up to the individual taste as to how you

1089
01:09:42,175 --> 01:09:43,935
Speaker 6: want the timber to look, you know, if it grays

1090
01:09:43,975 --> 01:09:45,335
Speaker 6: off nicely. Some people like that.

1091
01:09:45,415 --> 01:09:52,935
Speaker 4: Look, I'm slightly amazed that at twenty five year old

1092
01:09:52,935 --> 01:09:57,175
Speaker 4: macrocarpa that's been left untreated, let's say, has lasted as well.

1093
01:09:57,215 --> 01:09:59,935
Speaker 4: I mean, it's fantastic that it has. I would certainly

1094
01:10:00,015 --> 01:10:02,615
Speaker 4: recommend putting some sort of treatment over and the thought

1095
01:10:02,655 --> 01:10:06,535
Speaker 4: of somebody water blasting beer timber if they haven't done it, well, gosh,

1096
01:10:06,535 --> 01:10:08,175
Speaker 4: that's a recipe for disaster as well.

1097
01:10:08,895 --> 01:10:15,295
Speaker 6: Right, it has to be done very very I built

1098
01:10:15,335 --> 01:10:20,095
Speaker 6: a retaining wall once out of macrocarpa, simply because it's

1099
01:10:20,135 --> 01:10:22,695
Speaker 6: the person I was building the retaining wall for didn't

1100
01:10:22,695 --> 01:10:25,015
Speaker 6: want treated timber, and macrocarpa does the job.

1101
01:10:25,415 --> 01:10:29,935
Speaker 4: Yes. Funnily enough, I was tidying up around a raised

1102
01:10:30,015 --> 01:10:34,175
Speaker 4: vegetable garden that I built four years ago yesterday, and

1103
01:10:34,255 --> 01:10:36,375
Speaker 4: I did that in macrocarp for sleepers. I mean, look,

1104
01:10:36,375 --> 01:10:38,775
Speaker 4: it's still in great condition. It's weathered off, but that's

1105
01:10:38,815 --> 01:10:41,295
Speaker 4: exactly what I thought. But it's also you know, six

1106
01:10:41,375 --> 01:10:43,735
Speaker 4: by four sleepers, so it's going to take a while

1107
01:10:43,775 --> 01:10:44,655
Speaker 4: for that to decay.

1108
01:10:45,215 --> 01:10:45,575
Speaker 3: Right heah.

1109
01:10:46,095 --> 01:10:48,775
Speaker 4: Another quick question, Hi there, I've got an aluminium garage

1110
01:10:48,815 --> 01:10:51,095
Speaker 4: door to paint that's very worn it's hard to find

1111
01:10:51,135 --> 01:10:53,375
Speaker 4: the right description, but you know how aluminium can go

1112
01:10:53,855 --> 01:10:56,655
Speaker 4: after the standing. What primate do I need? This is

1113
01:10:56,655 --> 01:11:01,255
Speaker 4: from Vaughn so an old existing aluminium door that they

1114
01:11:01,255 --> 01:11:08,535
Speaker 4: want to repaintmde Gart door nice garage, Doore aluminium garage.

1115
01:11:08,615 --> 01:11:11,735
Speaker 6: Yeah, I presume there's no coating left on it. If

1116
01:11:11,775 --> 01:11:14,975
Speaker 6: that's the case, yep, I would you know, obviously clean

1117
01:11:15,015 --> 01:11:16,975
Speaker 6: down the door, don't stand it too much, but you know,

1118
01:11:17,095 --> 01:11:20,415
Speaker 6: get it, you know, stand and ready for coating and

1119
01:11:20,455 --> 01:11:23,575
Speaker 6: then put a full coat of what we call armor

1120
01:11:23,775 --> 01:11:27,455
Speaker 6: x GP primer yep, which is like a very very

1121
01:11:28,135 --> 01:11:31,495
Speaker 6: sick and good multi purpose primer and it text like

1122
01:11:31,535 --> 01:11:35,495
Speaker 6: anything to elimn and then you can, you know, you

1123
01:11:35,495 --> 01:11:38,215
Speaker 6: can put an acrylic coating like Summit roof over the

1124
01:11:38,215 --> 01:11:41,215
Speaker 6: top of it, or you could even use an amcrel

1125
01:11:41,495 --> 01:11:43,415
Speaker 6: or something like that, you know, the water worning ammel,

1126
01:11:44,295 --> 01:11:45,935
Speaker 6: depending on the gloss level that you want.

1127
01:11:47,615 --> 01:11:50,135
Speaker 4: Excellent. Okay, So, and what was that armor.

1128
01:11:49,975 --> 01:11:53,135
Speaker 6: Tex armor x GP primer.

1129
01:11:53,855 --> 01:11:56,135
Speaker 4: It's GP primer. I'm writing that down. I've got a

1130
01:11:56,215 --> 01:11:59,895
Speaker 4: job for that too. Awesome as always, thank you. Well

1131
01:12:00,375 --> 01:12:03,335
Speaker 4: we'll move on because we've got more Olympic coverage as well. Bryce,

1132
01:12:03,415 --> 01:12:06,495
Speaker 4: thank you again for your advice and for anyone who's

1133
01:12:06,495 --> 01:12:08,895
Speaker 4: got painting questions, go and see the team in the

1134
01:12:08,975 --> 01:12:11,375
Speaker 4: Razine Color Shop and they will give you all of

1135
01:12:11,415 --> 01:12:14,575
Speaker 4: that expert advice and great product. Thanks very much, Bryce,

1136
01:12:14,855 --> 01:12:17,135
Speaker 4: have a good day, Take care, all the best, bobbe

1137
01:12:17,295 --> 01:12:19,375
Speaker 4: your News Talks c B will take more of your calls.

1138
01:12:19,415 --> 01:12:23,375
Speaker 4: Building issues, building questions, building topics. We're talking all things

1139
01:12:23,375 --> 01:12:26,575
Speaker 4: building in construction this morning on the program, while keeping

1140
01:12:26,575 --> 01:12:29,855
Speaker 4: an eye I on the Olympics, and we're hoping to

1141
01:12:29,895 --> 01:12:33,535
Speaker 4: go to the gold medal ceremony for Hamish Kerr, who

1142
01:12:33,615 --> 01:12:38,135
Speaker 4: leapt an impressive two point three six meters. He cleared that,

1143
01:12:38,215 --> 01:12:40,495
Speaker 4: but he actually won the gold medal by jumping two

1144
01:12:40,535 --> 01:12:44,255
Speaker 4: point three to four meters, so that's quite impressive. Right,

1145
01:12:44,295 --> 01:12:46,015
Speaker 4: we'll take short break. We'll come back with more of

1146
01:12:46,055 --> 01:12:47,935
Speaker 4: your calls. Tanya, it will be with you in just

1147
01:12:47,935 --> 01:12:50,735
Speaker 4: a moment. Your News Talks the b and keen to

1148
01:12:50,775 --> 01:12:51,575
Speaker 4: get underway again.

1149
01:12:52,335 --> 01:12:52,975
Speaker 3: A couple of.

1150
01:12:52,855 --> 01:12:56,695
Speaker 4: Interesting texts with regard to Jerry's comments about his sort

1151
01:12:56,735 --> 01:13:00,455
Speaker 4: of bewilderment as to why we don't do basements and

1152
01:13:00,495 --> 01:13:03,255
Speaker 4: when I say basements, I'm not talking about sort of

1153
01:13:04,535 --> 01:13:07,975
Speaker 4: kind of accidental basements that are not uncommon here. Let's

1154
01:13:07,975 --> 01:13:10,095
Speaker 4: say you've got a nineteen seventies house and it might

1155
01:13:10,135 --> 01:13:11,935
Speaker 4: have a garage at the bottom and then the houses

1156
01:13:11,975 --> 01:13:14,375
Speaker 4: on top that sort of thing. This is kind of

1157
01:13:14,535 --> 01:13:18,935
Speaker 4: more deliberate I American style basements. A couple of texts

1158
01:13:18,975 --> 01:13:21,815
Speaker 4: have come in around that foundations have to be set

1159
01:13:21,815 --> 01:13:24,855
Speaker 4: below the permafrost depth level. That's the reason for the

1160
01:13:24,855 --> 01:13:29,295
Speaker 4: basements in the USA and Canada. I appreciate that. Hey, Pete,

1161
01:13:29,295 --> 01:13:32,695
Speaker 4: my family and Wellington here in New Zealand have a basement.

1162
01:13:32,695 --> 01:13:35,535
Speaker 4: In a family in Auckland also a large basement, quite large,

1163
01:13:35,575 --> 01:13:39,255
Speaker 4: cool and great for storage. And then again in cooler countries,

1164
01:13:39,575 --> 01:13:42,495
Speaker 4: in cooler climates the boilers. They need to put the

1165
01:13:42,535 --> 01:13:45,935
Speaker 4: boilers somewhere, and that's where piping would freeze if it

1166
01:13:46,015 --> 01:13:50,335
Speaker 4: was in an open underfloor area, so hence the basement.

1167
01:13:50,615 --> 01:13:53,855
Speaker 4: So there is a practical climatic reason for having them.

1168
01:13:53,855 --> 01:13:57,335
Speaker 4: But I would have thought, and I had this discussion

1169
01:13:57,375 --> 01:14:01,175
Speaker 4: with some architectural designers and architects a little while ago.

1170
01:14:01,255 --> 01:14:04,815
Speaker 4: Around most of us have just got a lot of stuff,

1171
01:14:05,415 --> 01:14:08,735
Speaker 4: and yet when we're building, we don't think of places

1172
01:14:08,775 --> 01:14:13,735
Speaker 4: to put stuff. I think about all the new builds

1173
01:14:13,735 --> 01:14:15,615
Speaker 4: that you see, hardly any of them actually use the

1174
01:14:15,655 --> 01:14:17,215
Speaker 4: garage for a car, and so the car is en

1175
01:14:17,295 --> 01:14:19,415
Speaker 4: up out on the road and the garage is full

1176
01:14:19,415 --> 01:14:21,455
Speaker 4: of stuff. And I'm exactly the same at my place

1177
01:14:21,495 --> 01:14:27,695
Speaker 4: and got a garage. It's never seen a car inside it.

1178
01:14:27,735 --> 01:14:31,415
Speaker 4: Maybe basements, if you've done a basement, let us know.

1179
01:14:31,535 --> 01:14:34,655
Speaker 4: Send me a text nine nine two D be right.

1180
01:14:34,775 --> 01:14:37,015
Speaker 4: Oh Toya, very good morning to you. How are you?

1181
01:14:37,055 --> 01:14:37,695
Speaker 4: Thanks for wedding.

1182
01:14:42,055 --> 01:14:45,575
Speaker 13: Just a quick question. We're looking at our comar to

1183
01:14:45,655 --> 01:14:50,815
Speaker 13: a housing yep, and yesterday we went to build Built

1184
01:14:50,895 --> 01:14:52,775
Speaker 13: Smart transportable building.

1185
01:14:53,455 --> 01:14:55,815
Speaker 14: Now I just had a look at their brochure.

1186
01:14:56,495 --> 01:15:03,975
Speaker 13: Does the builders come under Master Builders Associations? What transportable

1187
01:15:04,055 --> 01:15:05,015
Speaker 13: homes come under?

1188
01:15:06,455 --> 01:15:09,775
Speaker 4: Oh? I see what you're saying. Yeah, I'm not sure

1189
01:15:09,775 --> 01:15:13,375
Speaker 4: that any of the off site manufacturers sort of transportable homes,

1190
01:15:13,415 --> 01:15:18,815
Speaker 4: tiny homes, And there's no reason that they wouldn't be

1191
01:15:18,935 --> 01:15:24,255
Speaker 4: part of Master Builders. You know, in the end, Master

1192
01:15:24,295 --> 01:15:29,855
Speaker 4: Builders is sentially a subscription service, right, so you have

1193
01:15:29,935 --> 01:15:32,975
Speaker 4: to prove some competency and then you can join. So

1194
01:15:33,095 --> 01:15:36,655
Speaker 4: there would be no reason that an off site manufacturer

1195
01:15:36,775 --> 01:15:40,055
Speaker 4: doing tiny homes couldn't be part of Master Builders, but

1196
01:15:40,135 --> 01:15:46,215
Speaker 4: I don't know if many of them are so. Ye,

1197
01:15:46,615 --> 01:15:49,055
Speaker 4: what you're sort of saying is, is there an association

1198
01:15:49,295 --> 01:15:54,935
Speaker 4: like a tiny homes manufacturers association that has a membership

1199
01:15:55,055 --> 01:15:57,735
Speaker 4: and that in order to become a member you have

1200
01:15:57,815 --> 01:16:01,935
Speaker 4: to prove a certain level of competency or experience or

1201
01:16:02,495 --> 01:16:07,935
Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know that there is. Certainly

1202
01:16:07,975 --> 01:16:15,575
Speaker 4: the variation in the quality of tiny homes constructors is vast,

1203
01:16:15,775 --> 01:16:25,375
Speaker 4: would be the most kind and polite way of putting its. Great. Yeah,

1204
01:16:25,455 --> 01:16:28,495
Speaker 4: interesting you mentioned it because I've been chatting with some

1205
01:16:28,575 --> 01:16:31,775
Speaker 4: guys up in the Far North at panel Lock Homes

1206
01:16:32,295 --> 01:16:35,655
Speaker 4: and they're doing housing, so they do housing in their

1207
01:16:35,695 --> 01:16:38,775
Speaker 4: factory which is then transportable. But these are not tiny homes.

1208
01:16:38,775 --> 01:16:42,175
Speaker 4: These are you know, houses of seventy eighty square meters

1209
01:16:42,255 --> 01:16:46,775
Speaker 4: right that are being done with off site manufacturing and

1210
01:16:46,855 --> 01:16:49,535
Speaker 4: using like the J and L product, which is the

1211
01:16:49,615 --> 01:16:53,535
Speaker 4: triboard for the actual construction of the houses, and then

1212
01:16:53,615 --> 01:16:58,975
Speaker 4: being moved on to I guess ewe Land And maybe

1213
01:16:58,975 --> 01:17:01,495
Speaker 4: some of that will be for Commarta, some might just

1214
01:17:01,575 --> 01:17:04,535
Speaker 4: be for general far Now living and that sort of thing.

1215
01:17:04,575 --> 01:17:08,095
Speaker 4: But it's it's a fascinating place. And I actually I

1216
01:17:08,095 --> 01:17:11,375
Speaker 4: was at a presentation the other day that this was

1217
01:17:11,495 --> 01:17:13,695
Speaker 4: raised as well, and in fact I went past the

1218
01:17:13,735 --> 01:17:17,455
Speaker 4: development this big why prayer of trust? I think are

1219
01:17:17,495 --> 01:17:20,855
Speaker 4: doing a big development out near Middlemoor Hospital and part

1220
01:17:20,895 --> 01:17:22,975
Speaker 4: of that will be commard to a housing So it's

1221
01:17:23,375 --> 01:17:27,335
Speaker 4: it's an interesting new description of housing.

1222
01:17:27,935 --> 01:17:33,335
Speaker 13: M So you know only they've got it are with

1223
01:17:34,255 --> 01:17:35,375
Speaker 13: a circle around it?

1224
01:17:35,455 --> 01:17:38,375
Speaker 14: Does that mean registered? What does that actually want?

1225
01:17:38,415 --> 01:17:40,695
Speaker 4: Are with a circle around it around it?

1226
01:17:40,935 --> 01:17:44,535
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's built smart. Then it's got this little R

1227
01:17:45,015 --> 01:17:49,095
Speaker 13: with a circle around it. It doesn't say in their

1228
01:17:49,175 --> 01:17:52,015
Speaker 13: broch and what it actually means it and I thought

1229
01:17:52,055 --> 01:17:56,055
Speaker 13: it must mean register. But register would I mean?

1230
01:17:56,135 --> 01:17:57,975
Speaker 4: In the end, if you were going to go to

1231
01:17:58,055 --> 01:18:00,255
Speaker 4: this company or any other company and the work is

1232
01:18:00,295 --> 01:18:04,575
Speaker 4: going to be consented, which I presume you probably would do,

1233
01:18:04,935 --> 01:18:11,415
Speaker 4: then that because building work that's consented is restricted building work,

1234
01:18:11,415 --> 01:18:13,615
Speaker 4: which means that it can only be done or supervised

1235
01:18:13,655 --> 01:18:16,735
Speaker 4: by a licensed building practitioner. So at least you'll have

1236
01:18:16,815 --> 01:18:19,935
Speaker 4: that surety around the work being done by an LBP,

1237
01:18:20,615 --> 01:18:23,055
Speaker 4: which means you'll also get a record of works. And

1238
01:18:23,175 --> 01:18:26,935
Speaker 4: because it's consented you'll also get a code compliance certificate

1239
01:18:26,975 --> 01:18:29,215
Speaker 4: at the end of the project. So I think if

1240
01:18:29,255 --> 01:18:32,895
Speaker 4: you've got all of those things together, you can be

1241
01:18:33,055 --> 01:18:35,815
Speaker 4: reasonably confident about the quality of the work.

1242
01:18:38,495 --> 01:18:41,335
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, that sounds that sounds good.

1243
01:18:42,015 --> 01:18:47,575
Speaker 4: Sounds like an exciting project, it idea. Yeah, nice to

1244
01:18:47,655 --> 01:18:53,735
Speaker 4: chat with you, Yes, okay, all the very best youa

1245
01:18:53,855 --> 01:18:57,575
Speaker 4: take care, beautiful call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1246
01:18:57,615 --> 01:18:59,775
Speaker 4: If you've got a question of a building, nature will

1247
01:18:59,775 --> 01:19:02,295
Speaker 4: take your calls. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Will

1248
01:19:02,295 --> 01:19:03,855
Speaker 4: take a short break, will be back with Jen in

1249
01:19:03,855 --> 01:19:08,295
Speaker 4: just a moment. We will be crossing live to Paris

1250
01:19:08,335 --> 01:19:13,055
Speaker 4: for the gold medal awarding, the ceremony with Hamish Cure

1251
01:19:13,175 --> 01:19:16,015
Speaker 4: after his called middle leap in the high jump, So

1252
01:19:16,055 --> 01:19:18,935
Speaker 4: they'll be coming up shortly. Hey Jin, good morning to you.

1253
01:19:19,495 --> 01:19:27,335
Speaker 14: Good morning, good morning, good morning. Hello. Yes, yes, well

1254
01:19:27,375 --> 01:19:31,695
Speaker 14: I actually grew up in Britain during the Blitz and

1255
01:19:31,735 --> 01:19:35,455
Speaker 14: we were we were digging underneath, you know, to keep safe.

1256
01:19:35,495 --> 01:19:38,815
Speaker 14: But here in New Zealand, this is where the danger

1257
01:19:39,015 --> 01:19:42,655
Speaker 14: is for earthquakes. So don't you think that the reason

1258
01:19:43,095 --> 01:19:46,415
Speaker 14: which we are not finding too many basements in New

1259
01:19:46,495 --> 01:19:49,255
Speaker 14: Zealand is because of the risk of earthquakes.

1260
01:19:51,215 --> 01:19:53,615
Speaker 4: Look, it's it's a fair comment to make, and certainly

1261
01:19:53,735 --> 01:19:57,015
Speaker 4: I can appreciate that. Yeah, there would have been a

1262
01:19:57,135 --> 01:20:00,535
Speaker 4: usefulness to them back at in those times in terms

1263
01:20:00,575 --> 01:20:06,815
Speaker 4: of the blitz. Again, like, if you were to do

1264
01:20:07,135 --> 01:20:11,615
Speaker 4: a basement and it's concrete and it's reinforced and it's

1265
01:20:12,255 --> 01:20:15,495
Speaker 4: underneath the house, I would have thought that you'd actually

1266
01:20:15,495 --> 01:20:20,975
Speaker 4: be reasonably safe in that during an earthquake. I'm not

1267
01:20:21,015 --> 01:20:24,015
Speaker 4: sure that that is earthquake, you know. I mean, obviously

1268
01:20:24,015 --> 01:20:27,175
Speaker 4: we do have a higher risk of seismic activity in

1269
01:20:27,735 --> 01:20:30,975
Speaker 4: large parts of New Zealand, and so maybe that is

1270
01:20:31,015 --> 01:20:33,095
Speaker 4: an issue. But I would have thought that that could

1271
01:20:33,095 --> 01:20:36,135
Speaker 4: be designed for as well. If people did insist on

1272
01:20:36,175 --> 01:20:38,535
Speaker 4: having a basement, it could be achievable.

1273
01:20:40,895 --> 01:20:45,535
Speaker 14: But the uncertainty is there. Yeah, if you put a

1274
01:20:45,535 --> 01:20:48,455
Speaker 14: lot of money into a building and then if it's

1275
01:20:48,495 --> 01:20:52,975
Speaker 14: suddenly you get an earthquake, which is unpredictable in every way.

1276
01:20:53,855 --> 01:20:57,455
Speaker 14: If you're in, if you're on that, whatever, the thought like,

1277
01:20:58,575 --> 01:21:02,015
Speaker 14: then well you would you would like to risk all

1278
01:21:02,055 --> 01:21:03,335
Speaker 14: the money on that, would you know?

1279
01:21:03,535 --> 01:21:07,495
Speaker 4: But then I'm thinking about that, thinking, well, then you know,

1280
01:21:07,535 --> 01:21:10,015
Speaker 4: the greater risk would be that we've got lots, you know,

1281
01:21:10,055 --> 01:21:14,615
Speaker 4: increasingly in terms of our residential housing, a lot of

1282
01:21:14,655 --> 01:21:17,175
Speaker 4: the sort of info and development stuff is now going

1283
01:21:17,175 --> 01:21:20,015
Speaker 4: to three stories. So I would have thought that our

1284
01:21:20,055 --> 01:21:23,455
Speaker 4: three story building has a greater risk of let's say,

1285
01:21:23,575 --> 01:21:27,375
Speaker 4: harm when it comes to a seismic event than a basement,

1286
01:21:27,655 --> 01:21:30,455
Speaker 4: you know what I mean that if we can design

1287
01:21:30,495 --> 01:21:31,815
Speaker 4: for that, and if you look at the amount of

1288
01:21:31,815 --> 01:21:35,215
Speaker 4: bracing that goes into a new build these days, certainly

1289
01:21:35,255 --> 01:21:38,535
Speaker 4: the intention is that they stay up long enough for

1290
01:21:38,615 --> 01:21:42,135
Speaker 4: people to escape safely. That's the whole intent of the

1291
01:21:42,255 --> 01:21:47,815
Speaker 4: seismic engineering of them. But that would be a greater risk.

1292
01:21:51,455 --> 01:21:56,815
Speaker 14: But I'm completely thinking about abasement. Sure, if you want

1293
01:21:56,855 --> 01:22:00,055
Speaker 14: to in New Zealand, it's a different schedule fish than

1294
01:22:00,095 --> 01:22:05,935
Speaker 14: the other side of the world. Mainly anyway, Anyway, that

1295
01:22:06,055 --> 01:22:10,335
Speaker 14: was just not point because having having experienced the other

1296
01:22:10,655 --> 01:22:16,015
Speaker 14: that you dive underneath society. Indeed, I've many times dived

1297
01:22:16,095 --> 01:22:18,215
Speaker 14: under a table and got the worse end of the stick.

1298
01:22:19,735 --> 01:22:21,015
Speaker 6: See we've only got a minute.

1299
01:22:21,015 --> 01:22:24,175
Speaker 4: But Jenna, is it still something that you you obviously

1300
01:22:24,215 --> 01:22:28,255
Speaker 4: still think about those times and I'm guessing you, I mean,

1301
01:22:29,095 --> 01:22:33,135
Speaker 4: both my parents lived through the Second World War and

1302
01:22:34,135 --> 01:22:35,975
Speaker 4: you know, I know kind of what age they are

1303
01:22:36,055 --> 01:22:39,335
Speaker 4: and memory fades, but this is obviously something that's still

1304
01:22:40,135 --> 01:22:42,935
Speaker 4: front of mind for you though, that experience of surviving

1305
01:22:43,815 --> 01:22:46,815
Speaker 4: that time. And were you in London or where were

1306
01:22:46,855 --> 01:22:47,655
Speaker 4: you during the blitz?

1307
01:22:48,095 --> 01:22:51,095
Speaker 14: I was in Birmingham, in Birmingham which was heavily bomb

1308
01:22:51,575 --> 01:22:53,535
Speaker 14: they bombed the spit fire effect.

1309
01:22:53,375 --> 01:22:57,215
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, ah.

1310
01:22:58,895 --> 01:23:00,815
Speaker 14: Anyway, it was just a point.

1311
01:23:01,135 --> 01:23:02,135
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's.

1312
01:23:02,015 --> 01:23:05,575
Speaker 4: A it's a great point. Really appreciate it. Lovely to

1313
01:23:05,655 --> 01:23:09,255
Speaker 4: chat with you, Jen, Thank you all right, all the

1314
01:23:09,255 --> 01:23:13,855
Speaker 4: best to you by by then. Remarkable memories. Ah, yes,

1315
01:23:13,935 --> 01:23:16,975
Speaker 4: so that the small so earlier call it Toya was

1316
01:23:17,055 --> 01:23:19,815
Speaker 4: talking about a company that they were looking at doing

1317
01:23:19,895 --> 01:23:23,495
Speaker 4: some tiny homes or transportables. Actually I've had a look

1318
01:23:23,495 --> 01:23:25,535
Speaker 4: on their website. It's more about transportables.

1319
01:23:26,815 --> 01:23:27,095
Speaker 9: You can.

1320
01:23:28,335 --> 01:23:32,095
Speaker 4: Here's a thought, and I've had a number of discussions

1321
01:23:32,135 --> 01:23:36,815
Speaker 4: during the week with people around Submissions are open at

1322
01:23:36,815 --> 01:23:39,575
Speaker 4: the moment for people to invite comment. In fact, I

1323
01:23:39,615 --> 01:23:43,335
Speaker 4: think it closes tomorrow around the idea of being able

1324
01:23:43,335 --> 01:23:46,575
Speaker 4: to build to sixty square meters without necessarily requiring a

1325
01:23:46,575 --> 01:23:50,495
Speaker 4: building consent, and this has been put forward by the

1326
01:23:50,495 --> 01:23:53,735
Speaker 4: government as a way of increasing supply and affordability right

1327
01:23:53,815 --> 01:23:57,255
Speaker 4: and removing some of the red tape that tends to

1328
01:23:57,535 --> 01:24:00,335
Speaker 4: either add cost and certainly adds time to these sorts

1329
01:24:00,335 --> 01:24:04,135
Speaker 4: of builds. And I do wonder whether the way forward

1330
01:24:04,175 --> 01:24:07,535
Speaker 4: will be that companies that are already have processes and

1331
01:24:07,615 --> 01:24:11,615
Speaker 4: systems in place for off site manufacture of buildings, we'll

1332
01:24:11,655 --> 01:24:13,855
Speaker 4: be able to continue to do those buildings, but may

1333
01:24:13,895 --> 01:24:16,935
Speaker 4: not necessarily need to go through the consenting process. That

1334
01:24:16,975 --> 01:24:21,455
Speaker 4: would seem to me to be a relatively straightforward process

1335
01:24:22,135 --> 01:24:24,135
Speaker 4: at the moment. One of the things that's been considered

1336
01:24:24,295 --> 01:24:28,535
Speaker 4: is that a trusted professional, which I presume might be

1337
01:24:28,575 --> 01:24:32,175
Speaker 4: an LBP or a registered engineer, would have involvement in

1338
01:24:32,215 --> 01:24:35,735
Speaker 4: the process and be able to build. But there's still

1339
01:24:35,775 --> 01:24:40,855
Speaker 4: some fish shocks in that in terms of ensuring compliance,

1340
01:24:40,975 --> 01:24:44,535
Speaker 4: ensuring that standards remain high, that buildings are fit for purpose,

1341
01:24:45,015 --> 01:24:47,375
Speaker 4: if we go into it without having the need for

1342
01:24:47,375 --> 01:24:51,015
Speaker 4: a consent. Right, we are going to go to Paris

1343
01:24:51,495 --> 01:24:55,255
Speaker 4: and catch up with the gold medal ceremony. I'm just

1344
01:24:55,335 --> 01:24:59,175
Speaker 4: keeping an eye on the gold medal ceremony so when

1345
01:24:59,175 --> 01:25:01,815
Speaker 4: that comes up. This is Hamish Kerr, who left an

1346
01:25:01,855 --> 01:25:05,935
Speaker 4: impressive two point three six meters during the competition, and

1347
01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:09,735
Speaker 4: then because they both ended up McEwen from the USA

1348
01:25:09,935 --> 01:25:13,655
Speaker 4: was the other jumper. They both got to two point

1349
01:25:13,655 --> 01:25:16,775
Speaker 4: three six, but then they were equal and so they

1350
01:25:17,375 --> 01:25:19,775
Speaker 4: raised the bar. They both failed. Then they put it

1351
01:25:19,775 --> 01:25:22,575
Speaker 4: to two point three six, which they both achieved. Then

1352
01:25:22,775 --> 01:25:25,135
Speaker 4: they couldn't jump that. Then they dropped it to two

1353
01:25:25,175 --> 01:25:30,335
Speaker 4: point three four, at which point Hamish Kerr let cleared

1354
01:25:30,335 --> 01:25:34,775
Speaker 4: the bar. McEwen from the USA did not. Hence Hamish

1355
01:25:34,815 --> 01:25:38,055
Speaker 4: Kurr is now the Olympic gold medalist in the high jump.

1356
01:25:38,695 --> 01:25:40,695
Speaker 4: So we will cross live and catch up with that.

1357
01:25:41,615 --> 01:25:45,055
Speaker 4: Just before the break, we were also talking with Toya

1358
01:25:45,135 --> 01:25:48,695
Speaker 4: about the build Smart which happens to be a transportable

1359
01:25:48,735 --> 01:25:51,775
Speaker 4: buildings company, and so she said, oh, what about the

1360
01:25:51,815 --> 01:25:53,775
Speaker 4: little R. So the R, of course is just it's

1361
01:25:53,815 --> 01:25:56,815
Speaker 4: a registered trademark. So they've gone out and registered the

1362
01:25:56,895 --> 01:25:59,615
Speaker 4: name build Smart good on them, which gives them the

1363
01:25:59,695 --> 01:26:01,975
Speaker 4: right to use it and means that other people can't.

1364
01:26:03,415 --> 01:26:05,935
Speaker 4: Just with regard to that and submissions like I mentioned

1365
01:26:06,015 --> 01:26:11,175
Speaker 4: Klose tomorrow, I understand this is discussion documents around the

1366
01:26:11,215 --> 01:26:15,255
Speaker 4: government's proposal to allow buildings of up to sixty square meter,

1367
01:26:15,415 --> 01:26:19,375
Speaker 4: so granny flats to be built without necessarily requiring a

1368
01:26:19,615 --> 01:26:23,655
Speaker 4: building consent, How will that be managed, how we ensure quality,

1369
01:26:24,215 --> 01:26:27,055
Speaker 4: all sorts of groups. I know Hamish Firth, who's a

1370
01:26:27,095 --> 01:26:29,935
Speaker 4: planner who's been part of this program from time to time.

1371
01:26:30,455 --> 01:26:34,335
Speaker 4: They've made submissions on it. I was talking to the

1372
01:26:34,375 --> 01:26:36,735
Speaker 4: head of the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys actually

1373
01:26:36,815 --> 01:26:39,295
Speaker 4: during the week as well. They are going to put

1374
01:26:39,335 --> 01:26:43,855
Speaker 4: in a submission as well with suggestions. So all of

1375
01:26:43,895 --> 01:26:45,735
Speaker 4: this is up for grabs, and I think there's even

1376
01:26:45,855 --> 01:26:49,255
Speaker 4: there's submissions going in around things like rolling back the

1377
01:26:49,495 --> 01:26:52,855
Speaker 4: H one changes as well, that relates to insulation and

1378
01:26:53,015 --> 01:26:57,015
Speaker 4: energy efficiency in our building. So lots and lots of discussion,

1379
01:26:57,015 --> 01:26:59,095
Speaker 4: lots and lots of politics around it. But I do

1380
01:26:59,135 --> 01:27:01,615
Speaker 4: wonder whether if we are going to move to a

1381
01:27:01,615 --> 01:27:04,935
Speaker 4: space where, let's say, if you've got the land and

1382
01:27:04,975 --> 01:27:07,295
Speaker 4: if you've got the distance from the boundaries and so on,

1383
01:27:07,335 --> 01:27:11,615
Speaker 4: that you could build a sixty square meter granny flat

1384
01:27:12,095 --> 01:27:16,735
Speaker 4: without necessarily requiring it consent, whether the simplest pathway is

1385
01:27:16,775 --> 01:27:19,855
Speaker 4: to have most of those buildings being built by off

1386
01:27:19,895 --> 01:27:27,695
Speaker 4: site manufacturers who already have processes. And I suppose a

1387
01:27:27,735 --> 01:27:32,095
Speaker 4: compliance pathway as part of their build process. It's not

1388
01:27:32,175 --> 01:27:34,655
Speaker 4: a because they're doing them one after the other after

1389
01:27:34,655 --> 01:27:38,455
Speaker 4: the other after the other. They're not having to rethink it.

1390
01:27:38,655 --> 01:27:40,855
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking about the practicality. If someone said to me,

1391
01:27:41,015 --> 01:27:43,375
Speaker 4: could you come and build a sixty square meter granny

1392
01:27:43,415 --> 01:27:46,415
Speaker 4: flat for me? I want it to be you know,

1393
01:27:46,855 --> 01:27:49,335
Speaker 4: this long and this high, and you know a trust

1394
01:27:49,415 --> 01:27:51,255
Speaker 4: roof and all the rest of it. Could I do

1395
01:27:51,335 --> 01:27:56,615
Speaker 4: that without a set of plans? Maybe? But only just

1396
01:27:56,735 --> 01:28:00,055
Speaker 4: I mean typically we rely on plans to give some

1397
01:28:00,135 --> 01:28:02,615
Speaker 4: guidance around details. You know, where would I go to

1398
01:28:02,655 --> 01:28:05,695
Speaker 4: find out the span tables and the choice set out?

1399
01:28:05,775 --> 01:28:09,855
Speaker 4: And how do I calculate my insulation standards to ensure

1400
01:28:09,855 --> 01:28:12,575
Speaker 4: that it's compliant. Because even if something doesn't require a

1401
01:28:12,575 --> 01:28:15,615
Speaker 4: building consent, it still needs to be compliant with the

1402
01:28:15,655 --> 01:28:19,615
Speaker 4: building code. So in my thinking, it would be a

1403
01:28:19,695 --> 01:28:22,535
Speaker 4: real straightforward pathway to go. Hey, look, if we're going

1404
01:28:22,575 --> 01:28:25,455
Speaker 4: to offsite manufacturers who are doing these buildings day in

1405
01:28:25,455 --> 01:28:28,335
Speaker 4: and day out, they've already got all of their processes

1406
01:28:28,375 --> 01:28:31,295
Speaker 4: in place in terms of insuring compliance with the code.

1407
01:28:32,175 --> 01:28:35,895
Speaker 4: They can monitor their standards, they know that the building's

1408
01:28:36,215 --> 01:28:39,935
Speaker 4: fit for purpose, maybe that's where they are the first

1409
01:28:39,935 --> 01:28:44,255
Speaker 4: ones that are allowed to go. Yep, we can not

1410
01:28:44,655 --> 01:28:47,695
Speaker 4: necessarily get a building consent for this work, and we

1411
01:28:47,735 --> 01:28:50,135
Speaker 4: know that it's going to be to code. That's a

1412
01:28:50,215 --> 01:28:52,775
Speaker 4: thought anyway. You may have your own thoughts on that

1413
01:28:52,935 --> 01:28:55,175
Speaker 4: as well. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We'll take

1414
01:28:55,175 --> 01:28:58,255
Speaker 4: calls again after news, sport and weather, and we'll take

1415
01:28:58,295 --> 01:29:01,775
Speaker 4: calls after the metal ceremony which we're waiting for. So

1416
01:29:01,815 --> 01:29:04,415
Speaker 4: if you're thinking, criky, hey you've missed the news, guys,

1417
01:29:04,415 --> 01:29:06,255
Speaker 4: you're right. We have missed the news, but don't worry.

1418
01:29:06,375 --> 01:29:08,135
Speaker 4: We will come to the news. But we do want

1419
01:29:08,175 --> 01:29:11,815
Speaker 4: to go live to Paris for the gold medal ceremony

1420
01:29:11,895 --> 01:29:15,335
Speaker 4: with Hamish cur The other topic, and I may have

1421
01:29:15,375 --> 01:29:17,175
Speaker 4: to dash from this, but I'll get started on it.

1422
01:29:17,535 --> 01:29:20,855
Speaker 4: I mentioned last week that I'd had a very in

1423
01:29:20,895 --> 01:29:24,695
Speaker 4: depth and fruitful discussion with someone who's an expert in ventilation,

1424
01:29:25,615 --> 01:29:28,775
Speaker 4: and in fact, after that I then needed to call

1425
01:29:28,775 --> 01:29:32,935
Speaker 4: on her expertise. Where the classic situation with a building,

1426
01:29:33,495 --> 01:29:38,215
Speaker 4: nineteen sixties building, it's a rental property, it's healthy homes

1427
01:29:38,215 --> 01:29:40,895
Speaker 4: compliant in the sense that it's got extraction in the bathroom,

1428
01:29:40,895 --> 01:29:43,855
Speaker 4: it's got extraction in the kitchen area, it's got a

1429
01:29:43,855 --> 01:29:46,615
Speaker 4: fixed form of heating that will heat the living areas,

1430
01:29:46,655 --> 01:29:49,055
Speaker 4: it's got insulation in the ceiling, it's got insulation in

1431
01:29:49,095 --> 01:29:53,175
Speaker 4: the underfloor, and it's got mold. And I'm going, so,

1432
01:29:53,615 --> 01:29:55,455
Speaker 4: how is it that a building with all of those

1433
01:29:55,495 --> 01:29:58,095
Speaker 4: things still ends up having, in the middle of winter

1434
01:29:58,215 --> 01:30:02,015
Speaker 4: a persistent issue with mold. So I've given a storm

1435
01:30:02,015 --> 01:30:03,575
Speaker 4: who will come on this show in a couple of

1436
01:30:03,615 --> 01:30:06,855
Speaker 4: weeks time, those details, and then asked her to sort

1437
01:30:06,895 --> 01:30:09,255
Speaker 4: of do an analysis of what's going on in the building.

1438
01:30:09,255 --> 01:30:11,455
Speaker 4: And I'm happy to share that with you when she

1439
01:30:11,615 --> 01:30:15,655
Speaker 4: joins us on the program as well. So that whole

1440
01:30:15,695 --> 01:30:18,775
Speaker 4: thing's actually this is another interesting thing with where building's

1441
01:30:18,815 --> 01:30:20,815
Speaker 4: at at the moment. There is now the beginning of

1442
01:30:20,855 --> 01:30:26,975
Speaker 4: a I suppose an industry inclusive lobby group, let's say,

1443
01:30:27,135 --> 01:30:31,175
Speaker 4: around ventilation. There's been so many stories over the last

1444
01:30:31,295 --> 01:30:34,295
Speaker 4: couple of months where people are going, oh, look, we're

1445
01:30:34,295 --> 01:30:37,735
Speaker 4: putting too much insulation into our houses. That's why they're overheating,

1446
01:30:37,855 --> 01:30:42,615
Speaker 4: which is untrue, unscientific, and untrue. Right, houses don't overheat

1447
01:30:42,655 --> 01:30:45,455
Speaker 4: because you put insulation in them. They overheat because they're

1448
01:30:45,495 --> 01:30:49,255
Speaker 4: poorly designed, they overheat because they've got a lack of ventilation.

1449
01:30:50,535 --> 01:30:54,975
Speaker 4: That's what causes overheating. It's not insulation does not cause overheating,

1450
01:30:55,535 --> 01:31:01,455
Speaker 4: might contribute theoretically because no, actually no, leave that alone.

1451
01:31:01,815 --> 01:31:05,415
Speaker 4: So ventilations are pretty key issue, particularly and I was

1452
01:31:05,455 --> 01:31:08,135
Speaker 4: wondering on a new build the other day that had

1453
01:31:08,255 --> 01:31:12,135
Speaker 4: rigid air barrier, had good quality, really good quality joinery,

1454
01:31:13,015 --> 01:31:15,975
Speaker 4: it had had air cells around all of the joinery,

1455
01:31:16,095 --> 01:31:20,215
Speaker 4: rigid air barrier, good quality joinery, high spec double glazing

1456
01:31:20,375 --> 01:31:24,455
Speaker 4: in it. That building's going to be not quite air type,

1457
01:31:24,455 --> 01:31:28,415
Speaker 4: but you know, getting closer and closer towards being considerably

1458
01:31:28,495 --> 01:31:31,455
Speaker 4: more air tight than buildings would have been in the past.

1459
01:31:32,135 --> 01:31:36,495
Speaker 4: So ventilation will become an even bigger issue for those

1460
01:31:36,535 --> 01:31:39,695
Speaker 4: sorts of buildings. So anyway, the ventilation I think it's

1461
01:31:40,175 --> 01:31:45,295
Speaker 4: collab will will be a sort of cross industry body

1462
01:31:45,695 --> 01:31:49,495
Speaker 4: that will promote better ventilation in our buildings, which I

1463
01:31:49,495 --> 01:31:51,855
Speaker 4: think will be exciting as well. O WA eight one

1464
01:31:51,935 --> 01:31:53,775
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty, like I say, will be

1465
01:31:53,895 --> 01:31:56,415
Speaker 4: the number to call. We'll have time for some of

1466
01:31:56,495 --> 01:31:59,775
Speaker 4: your calls after new sport and weather. But as I said,

1467
01:31:59,775 --> 01:32:03,375
Speaker 4: we are going to go to Paris for the Olympic

1468
01:32:03,535 --> 01:32:06,695
Speaker 4: gold medal ceremony. This is Hamish cur in the high jump.

1469
01:32:07,015 --> 01:32:10,095
Speaker 4: Once we finish news, Sport and Weather, I'm also going

1470
01:32:10,135 --> 01:32:12,575
Speaker 4: to spend a bit of time chatting with Amanda Stains

1471
01:32:12,655 --> 01:32:16,495
Speaker 4: from the Keystone Trust. I was introduced to them at

1472
01:32:16,495 --> 01:32:19,575
Speaker 4: a conference a couple of months ago. They are a

1473
01:32:19,575 --> 01:32:25,135
Speaker 4: trust that provides scholarship and mentoring to young people to

1474
01:32:25,295 --> 01:32:27,175
Speaker 4: give them a bit of a hand up to get

1475
01:32:27,215 --> 01:32:33,295
Speaker 4: involved in the property and construction industry. It's not really

1476
01:32:33,415 --> 01:32:36,695
Speaker 4: like apprenticeships, but it will support people in that It's

1477
01:32:36,695 --> 01:32:39,255
Speaker 4: one of those things that in many cases there may

1478
01:32:39,295 --> 01:32:42,095
Speaker 4: well be students who don't have much money that it

1479
01:32:42,135 --> 01:32:45,175
Speaker 4: may not have the family support or the industry connections,

1480
01:32:45,175 --> 01:32:48,855
Speaker 4: and then getting into property or construction might be a

1481
01:32:48,895 --> 01:32:53,055
Speaker 4: little bit difficult how to get a terret tertiary education

1482
01:32:53,175 --> 01:32:55,855
Speaker 4: carve out of career. So we're talking with Amanda Stains

1483
01:32:55,895 --> 01:32:59,695
Speaker 4: from the Keystone Trust after the break as well. Here

1484
01:32:59,695 --> 01:33:01,895
Speaker 4: we go to Paris for the gold medal ceremony.

1485
01:33:03,455 --> 01:33:04,495
Speaker 3: Direct moment.

1486
01:33:06,655 --> 01:33:12,215
Speaker 11: An Olympic high jump medal ceremony featuring a kiwi. The

1487
01:33:12,375 --> 01:33:14,975
Speaker 11: ninth time we're going to hear the New Zealand national

1488
01:33:14,975 --> 01:33:17,815
Speaker 11: anthem at these Olympic Games. Never before have there been

1489
01:33:18,175 --> 01:33:23,295
Speaker 11: that many to enjoy. And hamous Kerr and the most

1490
01:33:23,415 --> 01:33:28,175
Speaker 11: dramatic of circumstances, still struggling to comprehend what we saw

1491
01:33:28,495 --> 01:33:31,495
Speaker 11: an hour or so ago when he won a jump

1492
01:33:31,535 --> 01:33:43,455
Speaker 11: off against Shelby McEwen to win gold silver in London

1493
01:33:43,495 --> 01:33:47,335
Speaker 11: and rio gold shared in Tokyo. And now a bronze

1494
01:33:47,335 --> 01:33:56,535
Speaker 11: medal for Mutaza Bashima of Kata, the broad smile for

1495
01:33:56,615 --> 01:34:02,615
Speaker 11: Bashem Watt, an ambassador he's been for high jump for

1496
01:34:02,775 --> 01:34:17,975
Speaker 11: Olympic Games. Four Olympic medals for Muta's Eser Bashim checks

1497
01:34:17,975 --> 01:34:20,495
Speaker 11: the medal out. We've got a couple of these, he says,

1498
01:34:20,655 --> 01:34:27,495
Speaker 11: different colors. Here is the American Shelby McEwan, a surprise

1499
01:34:27,615 --> 01:34:30,775
Speaker 11: silver medallist. I think for many people, there weren't too

1500
01:34:30,775 --> 01:34:35,135
Speaker 11: many tousing his credentials before this competition. But here he

1501
01:34:35,255 --> 01:34:39,095
Speaker 11: is a silver medalist, a PB today of two thirty six,

1502
01:34:40,975 --> 01:34:53,055
Speaker 11: in second place in the highjup competition. But here's your moment,

1503
01:34:53,375 --> 01:34:54,535
Speaker 11: New Zealand, your moment.

1504
01:34:54,535 --> 01:35:21,535
Speaker 3: Hamish Kur medalists the words I'm sure he's dreamed of hearing.

1505
01:35:23,015 --> 01:35:30,455
Speaker 11: Gold medalist and Olympic champion everything his heart desired. Hamosh

1506
01:35:30,495 --> 01:35:34,215
Speaker 11: cur on the top step of the podium with a

1507
01:35:34,255 --> 01:35:41,535
Speaker 11: glittering gold medal around his neck and never as a

1508
01:35:41,615 --> 01:35:44,375
Speaker 11: high jump gold medal being one and more dramatic fashion

1509
01:35:45,455 --> 01:35:50,295
Speaker 11: than Hamish Curves at Paris twenty twenty four, closes his eyes,

1510
01:35:50,455 --> 01:35:53,215
Speaker 11: a deep breath and prepares for the national anthem of

1511
01:35:53,255 --> 01:35:53,775
Speaker 11: New Zealand.

1512
01:35:55,215 --> 01:35:58,535
Speaker 12: If you can stand of New Zealand.

1513
01:37:03,255 --> 01:37:07,335
Speaker 11: Ghost bumps for breakfast on your Sunday morning and a

1514
01:37:07,335 --> 01:37:13,055
Speaker 11: stirring rendition of New Zealand's national anthem Carrington and Co

1515
01:37:14,255 --> 01:37:22,575
Speaker 11: and Kerr can you believe that? And the three medalists

1516
01:37:22,615 --> 01:37:27,615
Speaker 11: now on the top step together, medals in mouths. The

1517
01:37:27,735 --> 01:37:33,375
Speaker 11: traditional bite on that most precious of metal and most

1518
01:37:33,375 --> 01:37:36,335
Speaker 11: precious of all is the one worn by Hamish Kerr

1519
01:37:36,375 --> 01:37:41,295
Speaker 11: of New Zealand, Gold medalist, Olympic champion.

1520
01:37:43,335 --> 01:37:46,935
Speaker 4: Your news talk ZIB, Let's go to news. Well, it's

1521
01:37:46,975 --> 01:37:49,695
Speaker 4: been an exciting morning given that we've been able to

1522
01:37:49,695 --> 01:37:52,575
Speaker 4: cross life to Paris for the gold medal ceremony with

1523
01:37:52,615 --> 01:37:57,695
Speaker 4: Hamish Kerr. Of course, overnight Lisa Carrington and Lydia Coe

1524
01:37:57,735 --> 01:38:01,015
Speaker 4: both achieving gold medals as well. So it's it has

1525
01:38:01,055 --> 01:38:04,735
Speaker 4: it's been a fantastic sporting event. We won't mention the

1526
01:38:04,775 --> 01:38:07,695
Speaker 4: all blacks perhaps, And I got that because I've just

1527
01:38:07,735 --> 01:38:10,695
Speaker 4: texted Amanda, who is our next guest on the program,

1528
01:38:11,255 --> 01:38:13,135
Speaker 4: and she raised that. So I'm going to blame you,

1529
01:38:13,175 --> 01:38:15,615
Speaker 4: Amanda for raising the all blacks at the stage. Amanda,

1530
01:38:15,735 --> 01:38:18,255
Speaker 4: are very very good morning and welcome to the program.

1531
01:38:19,535 --> 01:38:21,935
Speaker 15: Good morning. Oh that is so mean. Now I'm going

1532
01:38:21,975 --> 01:38:26,735
Speaker 15: to have the entire nation not at all.

1533
01:38:25,495 --> 01:38:27,975
Speaker 4: Not at all, Amanda.

1534
01:38:27,575 --> 01:38:28,775
Speaker 3: I was at.

1535
01:38:30,175 --> 01:38:33,015
Speaker 4: A construction event a little while ago, and a couple

1536
01:38:33,055 --> 01:38:35,815
Speaker 4: of young people got up to talk about their experience

1537
01:38:35,975 --> 01:38:40,935
Speaker 4: of entering into the construction sector and carving a career

1538
01:38:40,975 --> 01:38:43,535
Speaker 4: and something that perhaps in a sector that they'd not

1539
01:38:43,655 --> 01:38:47,455
Speaker 4: been introduced to through their families or family connections. And

1540
01:38:47,535 --> 01:38:49,775
Speaker 4: then the reason that they were there is because they

1541
01:38:49,815 --> 01:38:53,695
Speaker 4: were supported by the Keystone Trust. So tell us about

1542
01:38:53,695 --> 01:38:55,815
Speaker 4: the trust and your role with the trust and what

1543
01:38:55,895 --> 01:38:58,535
Speaker 4: does the Keystone Trust do for young people?

1544
01:39:00,095 --> 01:39:03,575
Speaker 15: Thank you, that's really generous for you to ask. Keystone

1545
01:39:03,615 --> 01:39:06,535
Speaker 15: Trust established thirty years ago. We're having our birth day

1546
01:39:06,535 --> 01:39:09,015
Speaker 15: this year in October, which is really really quite special.

1547
01:39:09,375 --> 01:39:12,535
Speaker 15: So this all goes back to a gentleman called Graham

1548
01:39:12,575 --> 01:39:16,615
Speaker 15: Briggins who was a property developer in Wellington. However, he

1549
01:39:16,655 --> 01:39:20,175
Speaker 15: began his life as a young lad in Timaru. Parents

1550
01:39:20,215 --> 01:39:25,535
Speaker 15: were two Salvation Army officers and so for him, unfortunately

1551
01:39:25,575 --> 01:39:28,655
Speaker 15: going on to tertiary education was not part of the plan,

1552
01:39:28,935 --> 01:39:32,895
Speaker 15: but he really really wanted to. However, he found his

1553
01:39:32,975 --> 01:39:36,055
Speaker 15: way into property, started off life as a car park

1554
01:39:36,055 --> 01:39:39,935
Speaker 15: attendant actually, and by the time of his very untimely

1555
01:39:40,015 --> 01:39:43,895
Speaker 15: death in nineteen ninety four of February, he had two

1556
01:39:44,135 --> 01:39:48,015
Speaker 15: property development companies listed on the New Zealand Stock Exchange.

1557
01:39:48,095 --> 01:39:52,695
Speaker 15: His widow Binti, and a couple of his colleagues and

1558
01:39:52,775 --> 01:39:56,775
Speaker 15: friends decided that that was not going to be the

1559
01:39:56,775 --> 01:40:01,095
Speaker 15: be all and end all of Graham's life, so February

1560
01:40:01,095 --> 01:40:04,335
Speaker 15: he passed away. By October they had set up the

1561
01:40:04,415 --> 01:40:08,895
Speaker 15: Graham Brigands Property Truck and in nineteen ninety five they

1562
01:40:09,375 --> 01:40:14,415
Speaker 15: offered their first two scholarships for tertiary education to two

1563
01:40:14,455 --> 01:40:20,215
Speaker 15: students from Fongerdae. Today, thirty years on, three hundred and

1564
01:40:20,215 --> 01:40:25,855
Speaker 15: four scholarships later, we are currently with sixty students all

1565
01:40:25,895 --> 01:40:30,055
Speaker 15: around the motives and we have sixty four incredible industry

1566
01:40:30,135 --> 01:40:34,335
Speaker 15: sponsors who support these students, so first I can work

1567
01:40:34,375 --> 01:40:37,855
Speaker 15: out my only in my research. We are the only

1568
01:40:37,935 --> 01:40:40,815
Speaker 15: trust that is set up to provide scholarships to young

1569
01:40:40,815 --> 01:40:44,655
Speaker 15: people with financial and circumstantial issues. You know, life comes

1570
01:40:44,695 --> 01:40:47,295
Speaker 15: with all sorts of baggage at times. But who have

1571
01:40:47,335 --> 01:40:51,255
Speaker 15: an absoute passion for property and construction and one to

1572
01:40:51,295 --> 01:40:54,615
Speaker 15: study at a tertiary level. So we provide them with

1573
01:40:54,775 --> 01:40:58,295
Speaker 15: a three year scholarship. It's about sixteen and a half

1574
01:40:58,375 --> 01:41:00,575
Speaker 15: thousand dollars. And talk to any of our alumni and

1575
01:41:00,615 --> 01:41:03,895
Speaker 15: may us go, that's amazing, But I think what they

1576
01:41:04,015 --> 01:41:09,135
Speaker 15: say on top of that is an experienced mentor. We

1577
01:41:09,175 --> 01:41:13,255
Speaker 15: train the mentors from those sixty four sponsor companies to

1578
01:41:13,335 --> 01:41:17,495
Speaker 15: support our year two students. You can imagine the network

1579
01:41:17,815 --> 01:41:21,095
Speaker 15: that they walk into. You know, they've got companies and

1580
01:41:21,135 --> 01:41:24,335
Speaker 15: theirs which just follow them for the rest of their lives.

1581
01:41:24,495 --> 01:41:28,695
Speaker 15: Well being support because we have a student liaison manager

1582
01:41:28,735 --> 01:41:31,375
Speaker 15: who now works with us and helps our students in

1583
01:41:31,495 --> 01:41:34,815
Speaker 15: terms of just how do you manage a time? How

1584
01:41:34,815 --> 01:41:37,655
Speaker 15: do you get things organized? Because life gets in the way.

1585
01:41:38,015 --> 01:41:41,815
Speaker 15: But it's those industry connections, it's the internship opportunities they

1586
01:41:41,895 --> 01:41:44,855
Speaker 15: really kick start their careers and then we help them

1587
01:41:44,895 --> 01:41:47,135
Speaker 15: into their first job. You know, we're now coming into

1588
01:41:47,135 --> 01:41:51,015
Speaker 15: that point for our final year students that we assist

1589
01:41:51,055 --> 01:41:54,615
Speaker 15: them into employment, which is really tough because properly and

1590
01:41:54,695 --> 01:41:57,815
Speaker 15: construction sectors feeling a little bit, you know, a bit

1591
01:41:57,895 --> 01:42:02,455
Speaker 15: fragile at the moment. But it takes the fact that

1592
01:42:02,495 --> 01:42:05,655
Speaker 15: our students come along with a gold seal. You know,

1593
01:42:06,695 --> 01:42:09,455
Speaker 15: our students and our alumni of which there are now

1594
01:42:09,575 --> 01:42:13,655
Speaker 15: over two hundred around the country and internationally. They like

1595
01:42:13,815 --> 01:42:17,175
Speaker 15: working for our sponsors because they're all part of the family.

1596
01:42:17,655 --> 01:42:21,135
Speaker 15: It's all being they knew that these companies and these

1597
01:42:21,175 --> 01:42:23,215
Speaker 15: people had their back while they were a student, and

1598
01:42:23,255 --> 01:42:26,095
Speaker 15: now it's their turn to turn around and support them

1599
01:42:26,335 --> 01:42:30,775
Speaker 15: and be their amazing employee. Our students learn what the

1600
01:42:30,895 --> 01:42:34,175
Speaker 15: sector means because when you go to UNI as you

1601
01:42:34,175 --> 01:42:37,495
Speaker 15: can appreciate or to a tertiary provider, you learn your

1602
01:42:37,575 --> 01:42:41,335
Speaker 15: respective node and discipline. But when you get out into

1603
01:42:41,415 --> 01:42:45,175
Speaker 15: the business world, you have to understand everybody else's business.

1604
01:42:45,455 --> 01:42:48,095
Speaker 15: You need to be understand what makes their business tick

1605
01:42:48,175 --> 01:42:49,895
Speaker 15: and what they need to get out of a project.

1606
01:42:50,255 --> 01:42:52,895
Speaker 15: So for us, we're able to introduce a student who

1607
01:42:52,975 --> 01:42:56,215
Speaker 15: might be studying engineering to someone who's doing surveying, to

1608
01:42:56,255 --> 01:43:00,775
Speaker 15: someone who's doing construction management, someone who's the architect, someone

1609
01:43:00,815 --> 01:43:05,415
Speaker 15: who's the construction company. So they can actually go, ah,

1610
01:43:05,495 --> 01:43:07,975
Speaker 15: so if I'm working with a quantity surveyor, this is

1611
01:43:07,975 --> 01:43:10,175
Speaker 15: what their role is. This is what they need to

1612
01:43:10,175 --> 01:43:12,455
Speaker 15: get out of this project to make it a success

1613
01:43:12,615 --> 01:43:14,935
Speaker 15: for the project and also for them in their company.

1614
01:43:15,295 --> 01:43:18,975
Speaker 15: So if you can actually have a much more collaborative relationship,

1615
01:43:19,255 --> 01:43:22,295
Speaker 15: you go to have a much more relaxed conversation when

1616
01:43:22,295 --> 01:43:25,015
Speaker 15: they get a little bit tetchy because you know, they

1617
01:43:25,055 --> 01:43:26,975
Speaker 15: do a little bit when it comes to construction projects.

1618
01:43:27,015 --> 01:43:30,695
Speaker 4: Yeah, it can be a but combative can't It sometimes can.

1619
01:43:30,615 --> 01:43:33,095
Speaker 15: Be, which is why what is amazing is we have

1620
01:43:33,175 --> 01:43:38,455
Speaker 15: got some incredible legal sponsors. In fact, one which has

1621
01:43:38,495 --> 01:43:41,615
Speaker 15: been with us for thirty years is Bell Gully and

1622
01:43:41,775 --> 01:43:44,535
Speaker 15: they have been promoting us and working with us as

1623
01:43:44,535 --> 01:43:49,855
Speaker 15: a pro bono sponsor since nineteen ninety four. Bailey's have

1624
01:43:49,975 --> 01:43:56,535
Speaker 15: been with us since nineteen ninety four, Stride Property in

1625
01:43:56,575 --> 01:44:01,975
Speaker 15: the various guises now Stride with us after thirty years.

1626
01:44:02,335 --> 01:44:04,775
Speaker 15: That I think just goes to show how they believe

1627
01:44:05,495 --> 01:44:08,975
Speaker 15: in the coppopper of this trust and they believe in

1628
01:44:09,015 --> 01:44:13,095
Speaker 15: our students and they love being part of their success, and.

1629
01:44:13,015 --> 01:44:17,455
Speaker 4: I understand that at the moment, applications for scholarships are open.

1630
01:44:17,655 --> 01:44:21,775
Speaker 4: So who's eligible and how do you apply? I'm just

1631
01:44:21,815 --> 01:44:24,015
Speaker 4: thinking about people listening to the show who might have

1632
01:44:24,495 --> 01:44:27,055
Speaker 4: a nephew or a niece, or their own children or

1633
01:44:27,095 --> 01:44:32,455
Speaker 4: a grandchild or family friend who has perhaps shown that

1634
01:44:32,535 --> 01:44:35,615
Speaker 4: interest in the construction and property sector, but maybe has

1635
01:44:35,655 --> 01:44:38,775
Speaker 4: grown up in an environment where that's not what is

1636
01:44:39,335 --> 01:44:42,055
Speaker 4: talked about at the dinner table and so on. Wants

1637
01:44:42,055 --> 01:44:44,215
Speaker 4: to get there, but doesn't quite have the means to

1638
01:44:44,215 --> 01:44:45,575
Speaker 4: get there. So how do people apply?

1639
01:44:45,735 --> 01:44:45,935
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1640
01:44:46,495 --> 01:44:50,095
Speaker 15: Yeah, we find from the vast majority of our students

1641
01:44:50,575 --> 01:44:54,095
Speaker 15: they've talked with somebody, maybe it's the careers advisor, maybe

1642
01:44:54,135 --> 01:44:56,855
Speaker 15: somebody in their family who's gone, what do you think

1643
01:44:56,855 --> 01:44:59,295
Speaker 15: about this, and they've explored it and seen that has

1644
01:44:59,295 --> 01:45:03,375
Speaker 15: been a credible opportunity. So yes, we are currently taking

1645
01:45:03,415 --> 01:45:07,575
Speaker 15: applications to the first of all s Timber for our

1646
01:45:07,615 --> 01:45:13,215
Speaker 15: school leaver scholarships. Applications need to They'll be online through

1647
01:45:13,215 --> 01:45:17,015
Speaker 15: our website dub dub dub dot Keystone Trust dot org

1648
01:45:17,215 --> 01:45:18,055
Speaker 15: dot MZ.

1649
01:45:19,375 --> 01:45:23,215
Speaker 4: To be Keystone Trust dot org dot NZ Perfect please

1650
01:45:23,255 --> 01:45:23,575
Speaker 4: thank you.

1651
01:45:23,695 --> 01:45:29,415
Speaker 15: Yes, New Zealand citizen or a permanent resident facing financial challenges,

1652
01:45:29,575 --> 01:45:33,615
Speaker 15: difficult circumstances. As I say, often those two things come together.

1653
01:45:34,135 --> 01:45:36,895
Speaker 15: Minimum of university entrants. You need to be able to

1654
01:45:36,935 --> 01:45:39,415
Speaker 15: prove to us that you can study at a tertiary level.

1655
01:45:39,855 --> 01:45:42,815
Speaker 15: You need really good written and verbal communication skills because

1656
01:45:42,895 --> 01:45:45,975
Speaker 15: as we all know, in this industry, it's all about communication.

1657
01:45:46,855 --> 01:45:50,495
Speaker 15: You've got to be able to engage with people, be

1658
01:45:50,615 --> 01:45:53,055
Speaker 15: able to talk what's happening to you. You need to

1659
01:45:53,055 --> 01:45:56,135
Speaker 15: have the intention of enrolling at a university for next

1660
01:45:56,215 --> 01:46:00,055
Speaker 15: year in a property or construction related degree yep. And

1661
01:46:00,255 --> 01:46:04,295
Speaker 15: you need tertiary focused and a passion real passions, be

1662
01:46:04,415 --> 01:46:08,135
Speaker 15: chosen course in future career. You talk with people, go

1663
01:46:08,175 --> 01:46:10,815
Speaker 15: and get some information because all of that needs to

1664
01:46:10,855 --> 01:46:14,695
Speaker 15: go into your application form so that we can get

1665
01:46:14,695 --> 01:46:18,335
Speaker 15: a sense of who you are and then we will

1666
01:46:18,335 --> 01:46:20,695
Speaker 15: be able to have a much more informed conversation with

1667
01:46:20,735 --> 01:46:24,415
Speaker 15: you if you get to the application stage. So we

1668
01:46:24,495 --> 01:46:28,815
Speaker 15: are offering this year thirteen Study Awards, which is for

1669
01:46:29,015 --> 01:46:32,655
Speaker 15: school leaders, and we also have the C three School

1670
01:46:32,735 --> 01:46:35,415
Speaker 15: Leaver Scholarship which is for a school leader who is

1671
01:46:35,455 --> 01:46:40,815
Speaker 15: studying at either aut massive or unit Tech for a

1672
01:46:40,855 --> 01:46:42,535
Speaker 15: degree in construction.

1673
01:46:43,135 --> 01:46:46,415
Speaker 4: Fantastic. I'd encourage people to go to the website, and

1674
01:46:46,455 --> 01:46:49,415
Speaker 4: also I have to say I'm delighted to having a

1675
01:46:49,415 --> 01:46:51,215
Speaker 4: look through some of the people that support you and

1676
01:46:51,255 --> 01:46:53,615
Speaker 4: the companies that support you, to recognize some names of

1677
01:46:53,655 --> 01:46:55,495
Speaker 4: people that I work with and have worked with. So

1678
01:46:55,575 --> 01:47:00,135
Speaker 4: that's fantastic. But it's a great and inspirational website. If

1679
01:47:00,175 --> 01:47:02,975
Speaker 4: you want to help out, you can, and if you

1680
01:47:03,135 --> 01:47:06,175
Speaker 4: know someone who might fit the criteria, then go to

1681
01:47:06,495 --> 01:47:10,655
Speaker 4: Keystone Trust dot org dot NZ and go from their Amanda,

1682
01:47:10,735 --> 01:47:12,415
Speaker 4: thank you so much for your time this morning.

1683
01:47:13,295 --> 01:47:15,735
Speaker 15: Oh thank you my pleasure to talk with you. Lovely

1684
01:47:15,775 --> 01:47:17,055
Speaker 15: at don't trust.

1685
01:47:16,895 --> 01:47:19,015
Speaker 4: All the very best. Take care by a good.

1686
01:47:22,295 --> 01:47:24,255
Speaker 15: Zib right yo.

1687
01:47:24,415 --> 01:47:27,655
Speaker 4: Thinking about renovating your kitchen, here's an interesting development. This

1688
01:47:27,775 --> 01:47:30,535
Speaker 4: year sees a new type of kitchen bench top ento

1689
01:47:30,615 --> 01:47:34,895
Speaker 4: the market called Imperio. Made of a new layered compound.

1690
01:47:34,975 --> 01:47:38,815
Speaker 4: Imperio offers the texture and durability of stone without the

1691
01:47:38,855 --> 01:47:46,615
Speaker 4: presence of toxic chemicals like silica. It's incredibly tough, single singeproof, scratchproof, crackproof,

1692
01:47:46,735 --> 01:47:49,935
Speaker 4: moisture proof, and heat resistant up to two hundred and

1693
01:47:50,055 --> 01:47:53,975
Speaker 4: twenty degrees. Imperio is offered exclusively in New Zealand by

1694
01:47:54,015 --> 01:47:56,815
Speaker 4: the O'Brien Group, a family owned business who have been

1695
01:47:56,855 --> 01:48:01,055
Speaker 4: fitting out Kiwi kitchens since nineteen seventy two. They describe

1696
01:48:01,095 --> 01:48:05,215
Speaker 4: Imperio as a surface for life, an ultra durable bench

1697
01:48:05,255 --> 01:48:07,775
Speaker 4: top designed to stand up to a lifetime of use.

1698
01:48:08,295 --> 01:48:11,415
Speaker 4: Impera looks the part as well. Available in a range

1699
01:48:11,415 --> 01:48:15,135
Speaker 4: of designs, it provides a natural quality finish, making for

1700
01:48:15,215 --> 01:48:18,375
Speaker 4: a stylish centerpiece for any home. Best of all, it's

1701
01:48:18,455 --> 01:48:21,175
Speaker 4: highly affordable option to fit your budget. See it for

1702
01:48:21,215 --> 01:48:24,175
Speaker 4: yourself at imperio dot co dot nz.

1703
01:48:25,415 --> 01:48:25,935
Speaker 9: Zed by.

1704
01:48:27,415 --> 01:48:29,495
Speaker 4: Your news talk Sai'd be just about time to jump

1705
01:48:29,535 --> 01:48:32,255
Speaker 4: into the garden with a red kline past again. If

1706
01:48:32,255 --> 01:48:35,615
Speaker 4: you were tuned in listening with my conversation with Amanda,

1707
01:48:36,095 --> 01:48:38,655
Speaker 4: have a look at the Keystone Trust. Like I said,

1708
01:48:38,655 --> 01:48:41,295
Speaker 4: I was introduced to them only a couple of months

1709
01:48:41,295 --> 01:48:45,495
Speaker 4: ago by some of the people who had gone through

1710
01:48:45,615 --> 01:48:49,295
Speaker 4: their program and were now involved in the early stages

1711
01:48:49,335 --> 01:48:53,855
Speaker 4: of a career in building surveying. So it's construction and property,

1712
01:48:54,215 --> 01:48:57,375
Speaker 4: but the fact that they get that wrap around support

1713
01:48:57,415 --> 01:49:00,375
Speaker 4: as well. It's the mentoring, it's the internship and yes,

1714
01:49:00,495 --> 01:49:04,295
Speaker 4: it's the money for the scholarships as well. It is remarkable.

1715
01:49:04,335 --> 01:49:06,015
Speaker 4: So if you know a young person who might fit

1716
01:49:06,055 --> 01:49:11,135
Speaker 4: those criteria and it's you know, the standards. You have

1717
01:49:11,215 --> 01:49:14,095
Speaker 4: to achieve a certain standard in order to apply for this.

1718
01:49:14,255 --> 01:49:17,215
Speaker 4: But it is open to people who would typically not

1719
01:49:17,335 --> 01:49:20,415
Speaker 4: get an opportunity to do tertiary education in the construction

1720
01:49:20,495 --> 01:49:22,535
Speaker 4: and property field. So have a look at it. It

1721
01:49:22,655 --> 01:49:26,975
Speaker 4: is Keystone Trust dot org dot z And as I

1722
01:49:27,015 --> 01:49:29,335
Speaker 4: mentioned to Amanda, if you scroll through and see the

1723
01:49:29,335 --> 01:49:32,775
Speaker 4: groups that support them, I'd encourage you to support the

1724
01:49:32,815 --> 01:49:35,095
Speaker 4: groups that support them as well. I think they do

1725
01:49:35,135 --> 01:49:37,975
Speaker 4: a fantastic job. And it's thirty years you know, this

1726
01:49:38,055 --> 01:49:40,495
Speaker 4: is not this is not new and they've done is

1727
01:49:40,495 --> 01:49:44,975
Speaker 4: it over three hundred scholarships so far, which is fantastic radio.

1728
01:49:45,215 --> 01:49:47,855
Speaker 4: Let's jump into the garden with a climb past. It

1729
01:49:47,975 --> 01:49:50,655
Speaker 4: is the number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1730
01:49:50,695 --> 01:49:53,735
Speaker 4: You can text any questions for it through to nine

1731
01:49:53,975 --> 01:49:54,975
Speaker 4: two nine two.

1732
01:49:55,735 --> 01:49:58,695
Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen

1733
01:49:58,775 --> 01:50:01,975
Speaker 1: live to Newstalks be on Sunday mornings from Sex or

1734
01:50:02,015 --> 01:50:03,935
Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.