1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: The problem with committing to things that may well come 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: back to haunt you is down the track. At some 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: point the mistake starts to hit you in the face 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: of bit and some hard decisions are required. Now my 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: sense of it, as we've become too reliant on pine 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: trees to meet Paris as in the a court. Now 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the sheep farmers you might have noticed this week, have 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: worked that out as the protests around land conversion are 9 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: once again been reignited, with posters up around the countryside, 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: put up by the meat and wilfolk, with the line 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: on the posters saying I am not the problem. Since 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. Here's some fun facts for you. Since 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, we've gone from seventy million sheep to 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: twenty five. In the last seven years a quarter of 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: a million hectes have been swapped from sheep to trees. This, 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: of course, was always going to happen. What's the easiest way? 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what's the easiest way to meet a target 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: on carbon trees? Cutting and slashing, whether it's farm production 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: or the economy in general, was never going to be palatable. 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: So trees were easy. But you might have noticed a 21 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: couple of major things have happened. One, Paris looks increasingly 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: shaking in terms of people meeting targets, indeed people even 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: being interested in meeting targets. And two, stuff grown on 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: the land with legs is fetching very, very very good 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: money all over the world. At the moment, as far 26 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: as us earning a living goes, we have never made 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: more from farming. Carbon offsetting, which is what planting trees 28 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: is called, has restrictions. In other countries. They only let 29 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: you do it to a limited degree. Here you can 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: do it as much as you want, but I bet 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: you anything you want. Other countries aren't as reliant on 32 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: sheep and cows as we are. We used to have tourism, 33 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: as you've just heard, We used to have tourism back 34 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: us up. But last week's numbers tell a very sad story. 35 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Dairy twenty billion, tourism twelve awful comes in at nine. 36 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: For God's sake, tourism used to buy for first place. 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Hence the government, as we've just mentioned, through another thirteen 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: millionaire it yesterday to try and attract these seventy thousand people. 39 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Trees also kill communities. Farming as life a forest isn't 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: as laudable as Paris was all those years ago. If 41 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: we had thought about it, if we'd been less evangelical, 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: we might have stopped to think just what it was 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: we were asking of a small economy. And the simple 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: truth is we were asking so much. A quick short 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: cut like trees was always going to be adopted with alacrity. 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Saving the planet as people get tossed off the land 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: is not an equation we should be proud of. As 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the protest poster says with a photo of the sheep 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: on it, I am not the problem and they're right. 50 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: The Zalads are. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks at B from six am weekdays, 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio