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Speaker 2: That'd be good morning six after five on your Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: Coming up before six, we'll speak to a GP about

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Speaker 2: Labour's low interest loans Gavin Gray in the UK. For US,

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Speaker 2: the F one is on in Kuta and the water

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Speaker 2: bill for councils is in. It's big, it's massive, but

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Speaker 2: is it bigger than three waters? That's the question this morning.

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Speaker 2: The agenda Monday, the first of December. Pinch and a

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Speaker 2: punch Israel netnya who's asking the president there for a pardon.

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Speaker 2: This is for his corruption cases. Yes, there are a

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Speaker 2: few of them. He's spent five years in court. Bribery, fraud,

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Speaker 2: breach of trust, you name it. He denies all of them.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of pressure now on the office of

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Speaker 3: the President. And we have a statement from a President

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Speaker 3: Hartzog's office in which they see that this partner request

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Speaker 3: is extraordinary, it has significant implications and they're promising to

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Speaker 3: consider it. The sponsor unsincerely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's extraordinary for a couple of reasons. I'll get

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Speaker 2: to those in a second, let's go to Venezuela. Though

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Speaker 2: they are very upset. Manduro is very upset. Trump says

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Speaker 2: the airspace above Venezuela is basically closed, should be considered closed.

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Speaker 2: The Foreign Ministry is calling it illegal and unjustified. The

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Speaker 2: US has been sharpening its strategy in the recent region

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Speaker 4: There's clearly an attempt by the administration to project American

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Speaker 4: power through the Western hemisphere. That's not new historically, but

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Speaker 4: they're backing all of these populist right wing leaders for Brazil, Argentina.

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Speaker 4: The present intervened in the election today in Honduras saying

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Speaker 2: And finally, this morning, Potato Heart Potato. The Wiggles are

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 2: which is highly unusual. They have given presidential pardons in

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Speaker 2: a person has actually been convicted. Preemptive pardon and especially

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Speaker 2: there's no direct comparison there. It's not apples with apples,

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Speaker 5: But your rate bill will come down by by thirty

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Speaker 2: Good morning, morning Riot. So the freedom camping rules, the

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Speaker 9: Well, look they're kicking today Ryan, and the district council

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Speaker 2: Got a new measles case?

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Speaker 11: There yeah, one new case in the capital. A handful

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Speaker 12: Aaron Hendry, he's the charity founder. He says, Look, the

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Speaker 12: number of children is especially concerning for them, seventeen percent

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Speaker 12: a tum and some of the extreme cases of them

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Speaker 12: sleeping on the.

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Speaker 13: Street or CouchSurfing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, all right. How's the weather showers can ring.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fine today over a lot of

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Speaker 2: rain yesterday, neighbor, wasn't it? Yeah? Did you go to

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Speaker 2: the Santa Parade? No, of course I did, out of

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Speaker 2: the front row.

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Speaker 12: No, but I did. I thought, oh, well, got those

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Speaker 12: kids because they were dancing and no.

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Speaker 2: They were having good time. But what a nightmare getting

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Speaker 2: home after all that rain.

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Speaker 14: I know.

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Speaker 2: RG all right, thanks Neva, and it is eighteen minutes

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Speaker 2: Quarter to six on news talks in b ceasefire and Gaza,

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Speaker 2: but not in the UK for their supporters, it seems.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray, a UK europe correspondent with us Kevin, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good evening.

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Speaker 8: To you hither Ryan, Yes, more demonstrations in support of

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Speaker 8: Gaza here, despite the campaign and the ceasefire that has

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Speaker 8: already existed now for several weeks. A group called Defend

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Speaker 8: our Juries organized demonstrations in ten different locations and major cities,

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Speaker 8: among them London, Bristol, Manchester, Birmingham throughout England, with the

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Speaker 8: organizers saying they're protesting against the government's complicity in genocide

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Speaker 8: and against the ban on Palestine Action. Now, Palestine Action

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Speaker 8: was a group that the government decided was categorized as

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Speaker 8: a terrorist organization, and that meant that being a member

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Speaker 8: of or showing support for can lead you spending some

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Speaker 8: considerable time in jail. In Bristol, thirty one were arrested, Manchester,

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Speaker 8: thirty four Birmingham, twenty five, ten in Norwich and more

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Speaker 8: arrested in London two. All this, though, comes at a

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Speaker 8: time when there's currently a court case going on over

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Speaker 8: allegations six members of Palestine Action broke into an Israeli

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Speaker 8: defense firm's UK site and started damaging property inside, and

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Speaker 8: allegations that two police officers were attacked by a sledgehammer,

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Speaker 8: one on her back, which left her unable to get

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Speaker 8: dressed or go to work for several months afterwards.

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Speaker 2: That's terrible. Now to more heavy news. The Austrian nuns.

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Speaker 2: We've been taught the runaway nuns. We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: them for a couple of months now, and there's a

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Speaker 2: wee update.

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Speaker 8: There is Indeed, yes, the runaway nuns, aren't they. Marv's

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Speaker 8: eighty eight year old sister Bernadette, eighty six year old

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Speaker 8: sister Regina, and eighty two year old sister Rita were

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Speaker 8: kicked out of their convent nest Salzburg in Austria when

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Speaker 8: the church said, look, it's no longer a safe building

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Speaker 8: and we think you need to go to a home

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Speaker 8: with assisted living. Well, the nuns went on the run.

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Speaker 8: They left there and managed to get back to the convent,

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Speaker 8: and with the help of their former pupils, because they've

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Speaker 8: all been teachers, and indeed some locksmiths who volunteered, they

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Speaker 8: managed to break back into the convent and said this

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Speaker 8: is where we want to spend the rest of our lives.

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Speaker 8: The church shot back with all yeah, but you might

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Speaker 8: fall on the steep staircase, and the nuns said, we

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Speaker 8: don't care. We'd be happier falling here than we would

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Speaker 8: staying in some sort of a care home. Well, finally

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Speaker 8: the church authorities have said okay, you can stay. However,

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Speaker 8: they have said only if you stop posting on social media.

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Speaker 8: And it's through social media that this group of three

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Speaker 8: nuns have managed to attain such popularity and indeed such support.

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Speaker 8: Rather interestingly, though, it must be said Ryan that in

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Speaker 8: all this support that they are getting. There is as

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Speaker 8: well that general feeling that the church perhaps shouldn't meddle

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Speaker 8: with things that are quite happy as they.

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Speaker 2: Are absolutely givin thank you, Gevin Groaning are UK europe correspondent.

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Speaker 2: It is twelve to six Brian Bridge Labour's promising to

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Speaker 2: offer low interest lines for doctors and nurse practitioners to

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Speaker 2: sit up or buy into a gpre practice. This is

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Speaker 2: from next year, providing there when the election. Of course,

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Speaker 2: up to fifty lines a year focused on communities with

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Speaker 2: no GPS or closed books. According to Hipkins.

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Speaker 3: It'll give doctors and registered health professionals are helping hand

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Speaker 3: and setting up new medical practices.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Angus Chambers is chair of gen Pro joining me

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Speaker 2: this morning, good morning, good morning. Is this a good

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Speaker 2: Is this a necessary or needed policy?

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Speaker 14: Well, we definitely think it's not the merit. I mean

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Speaker 14: it's not going to change the world massively, but it

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Speaker 14: certainly is going to help in some of the areas

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Speaker 14: that we think are quite important.

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Speaker 2: Is getting lending a big problem, Well, look yes it is.

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Speaker 14: I mean there's two sides to it. The prices for

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Speaker 14: general practice has had considerable upper pressure because of the

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Speaker 14: entry of corporates into the market, and they've certainly pushed

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Speaker 14: the price up. And then at the same time, the

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Speaker 14: people who are generally buying practices not always, but they're

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Speaker 14: in this position where they're starting their career. They may

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Speaker 14: easily have mortgages, I'll often have student loans. They've got children,

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Speaker 14: a difficult time to be borrowing considerable amounts of money.

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Speaker 14: So yeah, those two things combined mean it's become more

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Speaker 14: difficult to see those people enter into the general practice teams.

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Speaker 2: Is that a problem? Like, is there something wrong with

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Speaker 2: corporates owning GP practices?

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Speaker 14: Well, I guess that there is some concerns about that,

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Speaker 14: and if you look at the geopolies we have in

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Speaker 14: supermarkets and other areas banks, you start to see that

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Speaker 14: this consumer doesn't really benefit in that in the long term,

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Speaker 14: and I think we are heading towards that. There's some

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Speaker 14: pretty good evidence that there's an inexorable creep of corporates

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Speaker 14: buying practices and less gps owning them. So I think, yes,

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Speaker 14: that that is a problem. The other side of it

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Speaker 14: is our operators due to a great service for their communities,

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Speaker 14: and I think we see some better constitutive care. If

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Speaker 14: you buy into a practice, you tend to stay there

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Speaker 14: for a long time in other ways again, and that

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Speaker 14: actually promotes that kind of relationship thing which is so

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Speaker 14: vital for good outcomes and primary care.

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Speaker 2: Does this you said the prices are the big problem,

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Speaker 2: and the corporate's coming and pushing up the prices. This

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Speaker 2: doesn't bring down the prices, does it? In fact of anything?

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Speaker 2: Does this not encourage price inflation?

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Speaker 14: Look, I think is there already?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 14: I think it just means that there's a bit that

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Speaker 14: you're better able to these people will be better able

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Speaker 14: to keep compete. So I don't think we'll see the

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Speaker 14: prices go up, but I think it will make it

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Speaker 14: easier for those gps and there's practitioners who want to

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Speaker 14: buy to get into the market. We have certainly seen

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Speaker 14: anecdotal evidence of people having to walk away because they

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Speaker 14: can't compete. So yeah, we think that's helpful.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough? Does it? What do you think

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Speaker 2: they're going to do? Labor on the staffing issue, because

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Speaker 2: that's the other big problem of course, isn't it is

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Speaker 2: actually getting gps in the door to do the work

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Speaker 2: we need them to do.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, lookin we've got a long way to go. On that.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I think this will also help a bit

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Speaker 14: because getting people into practic ownership, you might call them

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Speaker 14: slightly golden handcuffs. It gets people in there and retains them.

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Speaker 14: But yeah, there's a long way to go on the staffing.

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Speaker 14: So you know, we've had quite a few initiatives over

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Speaker 14: the last couple of three years of more training places

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Speaker 14: for general practitioners. You know, we're looking at the medical school,

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Speaker 14: but you know that's going to be a long time

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Speaker 14: before it produces adopters. So the staffing issue is still

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Speaker 14: really problematic, and in the end, retaining our existing staff

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Speaker 14: is one of the best strategies we've got to that

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Speaker 14: and that unfortunately comes back to the funding issues that

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Speaker 14: we've have been raised many times in the area.

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Speaker 2: And Gus appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. Angus Chambers,

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Speaker 2: who is chair of gen Pro. It's eight to six

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Speaker 2: news talks.

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Speaker 2: great to have your company this morning. Mike's in the studio. Mike,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Greetings, rye, and everything's giving up as we

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Speaker 2: head into December. The air conon here is broken. I've

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Speaker 2: given up. No, you hate you would never the clock's

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Speaker 2: given up. That's broken.

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Speaker 13: It's a miracle. It's a miracle.

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Speaker 2: We're still on still on here?

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Speaker 8: Do you know?

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Speaker 13: Let me tell you the story, and the management will

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Speaker 13: hate me telling the story. You know the lights in here?

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Speaker 13: Do you know how many days it took to replace them? No,

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Speaker 13: one hundred and ninety five.

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Speaker 2: You can't make that better? And is this with you?

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Speaker 2: Your com me cracking the whip.

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Speaker 13: If I hadn't been complaining, we'd have taken eight hundred

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Speaker 13: and fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: It would never have happened.

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Speaker 13: It's unbelievable. Are you interested in the if one or not?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 13: Well, we spoke about this on Friday, I remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 13: not really that interested?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I sort of. So Lawson started in twelve.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, he's currently twelfth. But it's don't pay any attention

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Speaker 13: to that, because they've got what's interesting about this. Here's

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Speaker 13: a fun fact for you.

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Speaker 2: Give it to me because they How.

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Speaker 13: Much time have I got? Because the clocks, I don't know,

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Speaker 13: you're got a minute twenty Okay? So because they built

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Speaker 13: this track. So the problem with F One for people

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Speaker 13: watching this this morning is it's a boring race, so

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Speaker 13: it's not actually worth watching.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad we've admitted that.

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Speaker 13: No, No, it's a boring race because of the track.

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Speaker 13: And the track is such a spectacular track because it's

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Speaker 13: built with oil money in the Middle East. They've made

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Speaker 13: just a glorious track. But the problem is that there's

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Speaker 13: two perfect there's no overtaking, and there's three corners that

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Speaker 13: are so fast that they've limited and this is the

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Speaker 13: only race that happens this year. They've limited the number

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Speaker 13: of laps you can do on a set of tires

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Speaker 13: to twenty five laps, because if you go any further

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Speaker 13: than twenty five, probably won't stand behind the tire anymore.

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Speaker 13: Because the pressure on the tire going around the corner

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Speaker 13: is eleven twelve or thirteen or twelve thirteen forty whatever

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Speaker 13: they are. You're going so fast around the corner the

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Speaker 13: tires can't cope with it.

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Speaker 2: After twenty five they would blow up, they'd explode, and

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Speaker 2: your car would crash exactly.

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Speaker 13: So the thing that makes it semi interesting is that

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Speaker 13: you're forced to pit at least twice, so in pitting

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Speaker 13: at least twice.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting about someone pitting, well, because anything can happen,

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Speaker 2: because then you've got to take off.

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Speaker 13: You've got to go slow, you got to get you know, that's.

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Speaker 2: About lame, Isn't that? The exciting bet is watching them

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Speaker 2: stop and start again?

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Speaker 13: Well yeah, I suppose all right, all run into each

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Speaker 13: other a couple of running into each other. But anyway,

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Speaker 13: so that's.

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