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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local

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Speaker 2: experts across residential, commercial.

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Speaker 1: And rural news talks head.

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Speaker 3: Be well, you're cooking to our carn money coming into

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Speaker 3: the country. Capital of ideas got floated over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: The price about groceries is no longer going up? Can

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Speaker 3: you believe that gun crime is going up? So we'll

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Speaker 3: talk to the coppers. We've got to burn mowing debate

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Speaker 3: in hot of Fenowa are the lads and the commentary bocks,

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Speaker 3: after which Darnald' steep price. They do the international honors

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Speaker 3: today as well. I still welcome to the brand new

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Speaker 3: week seven past six. Sounds good on paper or indeed

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Speaker 3: in front of you fans, but we need more detail,

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Speaker 3: don't we, on the so called future Fund than the

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Speaker 3: one hundred billion it will raise and the tax and

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Speaker 3: centivization that will be needed to get the money in

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Speaker 3: here in the first place. It's the new New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First policy. They celebrated their thirty first get together over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. As I'm sure you're well aware, Peter's got

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Speaker 3: a reasonable amount of coverage. Didn't have too much of

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Speaker 3: the old days about it where the television cameras wander

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Speaker 3: around looking for weirdo's to say funny things. Think about

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Speaker 3: the government as it tends to give you an element

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Speaker 3: of credibility, and I think that's what we're seeing. In fact,

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Speaker 3: you could argue after thirty one odd years, New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First is having its best days ever. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: they've been in power numerous times, but so far touch

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Speaker 3: Wood this time seems actually to be going smoothly. We've

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Speaker 3: had nothing of the previous friction. It is indeed early days.

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Speaker 3: Of course, that's currently helped by the fact that government

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Speaker 3: looks set to hold on for a good crack at

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Speaker 3: another term. Indeed, the so called green shoots we're seeing

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Speaker 3: year or into twenty twenty six of decent growth and

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Speaker 3: whether it will come the election year optimism that will

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Speaker 3: see your return for another three years. Peter's previously and

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Speaker 3: most certainly this time, is proving to be an outstanding

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Speaker 3: foreign minister as well and helped in those small part.

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Speaker 3: But the fact the previous one was historically useless but

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Speaker 3: this future fund he talks of, this is a key ingredient,

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Speaker 3: the ability for foreign investors to truly be part of

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Speaker 3: the country. And to do that you need to be

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Speaker 3: able to buy a house. They can't buy a house

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Speaker 3: because of New Zealand First's policy that doesn't allow it,

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Speaker 3: which seems dichotomus does it not national compromise. You might

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Speaker 3: remember in coalition talks carved out foreign houses as those

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Speaker 3: over two million bucks still not good enough for New

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Speaker 3: Zealand First. So it's a failed idea, probably the biggest

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Speaker 3: mistake actually National made giving it away. You need foreigners

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Speaker 3: that partners need in debated these days. We need them

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Speaker 3: for labor as well as money, as well as culture

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Speaker 3: as well as population growth. To help that, they need

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Speaker 3: to feel like this is a place they can call home.

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Speaker 3: The easiest way to achieve that is to allow them

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Speaker 3: to set up shop in a house unconvinced. The policy

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Speaker 3: will eventually be tipped over, but until it is, you

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Speaker 3: can talk about future funds all you want. You can

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Speaker 3: talk about foreign investment all you want, but the door

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Speaker 3: has to be open, not partially open, not open with caveats.

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Speaker 3: We aren't a big enough deal globally to be forcing

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Speaker 3: such a large compromise.

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Speaker 1: Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: But going on north of the border of humistic. Yesterday

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Speaker 3: Scotland's First Minister, Alex Samon died.

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Speaker 4: Respect for democratic legitimate democratic.

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Speaker 1: Inspiracials leads to good outcomes.

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Speaker 4: Disrespecting it in one way or another and offering surprisingly

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Speaker 4: can lead to bad outcomes for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Well, shortly after that he collapsed, there were mixed views

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Speaker 1: He did a lot for Scotland. He was a scot

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Speaker 5: He was a very good politician, yes, very clever, but

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Speaker 5: no man.

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't agree with his politics at all.

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Speaker 1: He obviously lived for it, he had a passion for it.

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Speaker 3: Also, I'm Scotland growing angst with London, with the Lib

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Speaker 3: of Government's upcoming budget and who Swiny will or will

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Speaker 7: They'll obviously be officials and invoys and official and they

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Speaker 7: can engage with my officials. But for my part as

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Speaker 7: first instead of Scotland, I'll be dealing directly with the

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Speaker 3: Part of the youngstersiety. The idea of the government might

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Speaker 8: It was specifically in the manifesto a reference to employee

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Speaker 8: but you have to wait for the detail of a budget.

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Speaker 3: Space News Elon had a busy weekend as robo taxi

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Speaker 3: thing went down like a cup of cold sick. But

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Speaker 3: as rocket landed brilliantly on its fifth test trial.

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Speaker 1: It using jack.

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Speaker 3: Not really insane, quite cooler. Have you haven't seen the video?

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Speaker 6: Look it up.

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Speaker 3: Then we can't forget about the warnett Yah who's still

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Speaker 3: not for turning. He's telling the un now to get

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Speaker 3: their peacekeepers out of the way.

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Speaker 7: Mister Secretary General, get the uniform forces out of homes way.

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Speaker 1: It should be run right now, immediately.

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Speaker 3: Finally, Crocs for Dogs. You heard it right. Crocs have

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Speaker 3: teamed up with bark Barker, a business to create pet

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Speaker 3: of Croctober. Between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty one, Americans

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Speaker 3: Americans alone, the spending on their pets increase seventy eight percent.

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Speaker 3: What sort of number is that well. Total expenditure on

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Speaker 3: pets last year was two hundred and forty billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: The and pet crocs are one of the most highly

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Speaker 3: requested products in brand history. And you got to keep

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Speaker 3: the customer satisfycent and let us use the world in

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Speaker 3: Alex Simon, sadly, at just sixty nine, helped the devolved

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Speaker 3: Scottish government for seven years from two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 3: from twenty seven to twenty fourteen he got into real

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Speaker 3: political talk show host on RT, which you can't get

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Speaker 3: From our Central Bank watched South Korea's Central Bank twenty

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Speaker 3: having funds management Gret Smith morning to you. Where is

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Speaker 10: That's where they are currently. So yeah, great session on Friday,

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Speaker 10: not going to have his fleet of self driving cars

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Speaker 3: Stand by, We'll catch up next week. Appreciate it. Greg Smith,

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Speaker 1: Pascal Manufacturing.

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Speaker 3: It's up, but still at forty six point ninety need

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Speaker 3: I'd be I've got some good forestry news. In a

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Speaker 3: couple of moments, Mike, I was at Winston's speech, and

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Speaker 3: NBA preseason Chris Miles, former coach and color commentator Sam

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Speaker 3: Mitchell the calling a game Warriors Kings. They're discussing the

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Speaker 3: Sam Mitchell says, the sport clearly doesn't value coaches enough.

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Speaker 6: I'm surprised coaches get a paycheck for this show. You know,

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Speaker 7: You know, the last time I looked at my check,

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Speaker 7: it's pretty close.

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Speaker 1: So hey, I'm taking donations. Why don't you come up

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Speaker 1: off some of that money you got? Since you're over

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Speaker 1: there bragging about it, I'm not bragging about I mean, yeah, oh,

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Speaker 7: Did you rent your beach house house down in Florida

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Speaker 1: Do I need to go?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 7: How about your townelhousehold over Bucket?

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Speaker 13: Hey, it was goldwy say you want to call me?

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Speaker 7: I'll I mean, come on, I think we're even broken hungry.

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Speaker 1: Let's just see it.

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Speaker 7: You know, I know I know what you have and

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Speaker 14: You need to I think we have snitches on this

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Speaker 6: We have Mitchell.

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Speaker 7: Do I need to keep going on further more and more?

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Speaker 7: Do I need to give out that dress because you're

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Speaker 3: If you thought that was a Jackie Mitchell might come

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Speaker 16: For you're as rich in history of championships and now

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Speaker 7: You that's your house, Pristal, Oh, that's sure riddle property.

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Speaker 1: How oh there we go?

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Speaker 3: we'll stand by to see whether that happens.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Food the claim this morning is and we'll get into

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Speaker 3: Reading over the weekend. Are very pleased to be able

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Speaker 3: very good morning to you. This ongoing thing that I

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Speaker 17: I think that's an important discussion because there's so many

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Speaker 3: Yeah, difficult with that is that people don't here's the

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Speaker 3: first text, Mike. I'm astonished that it's noted that food

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Speaker 3: what people see, isn't it what was in their basket,

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Speaker 17: That is correct, and that's why the comparison that we

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Speaker 17: overall that was one point two for food stuffs, that

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Speaker 17: And also you've got to weight the volume somehow to

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Speaker 3: Which is the really interesting thing since we've last had

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Speaker 17: In terms of supply, yes, it is. So we're getting

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Speaker 17: Look, there is a lot of pressure on cost globally.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then we come to the merger. It's off,

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Speaker 3: what are you going to do?

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Speaker 17: Look, that was one of our best plans in terms

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Speaker 17: of how we further reduce cost and reduce food price.

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Speaker 17: There was huge benefit in the removal of duplication in

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Speaker 17: that proposal. We don't know the reasons yet why the

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Speaker 17: Commerce Commission have declined it. We don't get that till

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Speaker 17: the twenty third of October. We'll review that properly and

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Speaker 17: based on what we see there, will de side on

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Speaker 17: a next step and whether we feel there are reasons

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Speaker 17: there why we failed the legal test or if there isn't,

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Speaker 17: then we have the option to appeal.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk about it soon. I'm sure Chris

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Speaker 3: preciate it. Chris Quinn, who's the Foodstaff's New Zealand managing director.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen and it's away from seven off tasking full time

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Speaker 3: forty seven apiece. Increasingly it's not just swing state talk.

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Speaker 3: It's a swing state and the swing state. It's Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Poll out this morning. It's worth nineteen electoral college votes,

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Speaker 3: poll out this morning in forty seven each other poll

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Speaker 3: out over the weekend, which was interesting New York Times

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Speaker 3: seeing a college poll. Seventy four percent of black voters

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Speaker 3: aregain to vote for Harris, and you go, well, that

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Speaker 3: sounds like a good number.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 3: Because Biden got ninety. The gap between ninety and seventy

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Speaker 3: four is large enough for the Democrats to become increasingly

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Speaker 3: worried she will lose the election because of it. Eighteen

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, coward

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Speaker 2: By News Talks.

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Speaker 3: AP Morning Mike Love You Show, just back from Australia

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Speaker 3: went to an Italian restaurant owners said their homeland have

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Speaker 3: had their worst ever harvest of olives, hence the high price.

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Speaker 3: It's Italy and it's Spain. It's so grouse, of course,

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Speaker 3: so you one hundred percent right, so olive oil through

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Speaker 3: the roof. But then again, these are the status numbers

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Speaker 3: that came out on Friday for food, fresh fruit and vegetables,

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Speaker 3: and nobody texts about this when they're up eight point

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Speaker 3: three percent everyone's going. Have you seen the price of

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Speaker 3: fruit and vegetables when they're down eight point three percent,

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Speaker 3: which is what they are, Fresh fruit and vegetables are

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Speaker 3: down on average eight point three percent. You've never had

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Speaker 3: a cheaper onion dollars sixty eight on average. Haven't been

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Speaker 3: that chip since twenty twelve. So get amongst six forty

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Speaker 3: five international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 3: mind for New Zealand Business Stage Sibers Monday morning, Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 3: how are you doing well?

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Speaker 12: Heny?

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Speaker 3: SpaceX looks good. It's a good video.

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Speaker 18: This was amazing, even in this modern age of spaceships

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Speaker 18: and rocketry. SpaceX, of course, Elon Musk's company managed to

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Speaker 18: recapture its huge Starship rocket booster during an unmanned test

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Speaker 18: flight this morning, something that has never been done before.

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Speaker 18: It was kind of hard to believe what was going on.

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Speaker 18: They launched the starship from their They launched site on

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Speaker 18: the Texas Gulf coast, and three minutes and forty seconds

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Speaker 18: after left off, the booster fell away, then flipped around

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Speaker 18: and headed back to Earth. This is equipment about twenty

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Speaker 18: three stories high one hundred and twenty one meters and

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Speaker 18: it was sent into this re entry. Meanwhile, the upper

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Speaker 18: stage looped around the planet, been made a control splashed

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Speaker 18: down in the water. It came through intense heat of

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Speaker 18: reentry near least three thousand degrees in pretty good condition,

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Speaker 18: they're saying, protected by some newly improved heat shield tiles

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Speaker 18: because they had some problems last go. But that wasn't

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Speaker 18: the main show. The main focus was this super heavy

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Speaker 18: rocket booster that was headed back towards the launch pad itself.

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Speaker 18: The idea was to try to catch this thing using

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Speaker 18: giant mechanical pincer arms that were attached to the launch

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Speaker 18: tower itself. They're calling these things chopsticks. So this gargantuan

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Speaker 18: booster headed towards the ground of wabbling a bit and

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Speaker 18: seeming like it might be off course at moments. Then

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Speaker 18: some rocket jets were fired and it settled right in

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Speaker 18: between these huge mechanical arms. And this was the moment.

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Speaker 1: Macabella had pa well.

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Speaker 18: You can hardly hear the controllers with all the cheering

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Speaker 18: that's going on here.

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Speaker 9: Absolute we have successfully lag seem happy, sir, back.

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Speaker 1: A lunch you want trying to go.

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Speaker 18: Oh well, it didn't come down once the booster was

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Speaker 18: locked in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sin, we are.

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Speaker 14: Steadying loud on the books.

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Speaker 1: This is a dang for the engineering history books.

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Speaker 14: I am, I am like shaking.

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Speaker 18: So the implications of this clear. It's moved towards reusability,

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Speaker 18: as they call it, rapid reusability and more because this

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Speaker 18: is the most powerful rocket ever produced, twice the liftoff

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Speaker 18: thrust of the Apollo Erasatin fives, and both stages are

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Speaker 18: meant to be reusable. That is, not only to cut

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Speaker 18: the cost, but also to open up the possibility since

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Speaker 18: the idea is that the starship could touch down at

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Speaker 18: landing sites on Earth and beyond. So the thinking is

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Speaker 18: they could use the system to power their way to

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Speaker 18: and at Mars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seems to do rockets better than he does cars anyway.

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Speaker 3: Another rally, another gun.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, just over three weeks to election day, as you've

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Speaker 18: been saying, and Trump has been out west holding a

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Speaker 18: rally in California, this time because no chance of winning

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Speaker 18: in California. But this was a dig at Harris and

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Speaker 18: a money raising stop as he appeared at a ranch

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Speaker 18: in Coachilla where a Las Vegas man has been arrested

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Speaker 18: carrying a shotgun and a loaded handgun and a high

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Speaker 18: capacity magazine. This bok was forty nine. We don't have

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Speaker 18: a lot of detail about him as yet, but this follows,

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Speaker 18: of course, the two assassination bids on Trump. There was

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Speaker 18: some heckling at the Trump rally, and Trump sought to

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Speaker 18: ridicule one female heckler with an apparent call to violence himself.

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Speaker 18: He said, this, mummy, she.

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Speaker 15: Is that you darning?

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Speaker 19: And did she? Yes?

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Speaker 18: Her father and mother would knock the hell out of her,

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Speaker 18: suggests Trump. There for the rest of it, it was

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Speaker 18: California bashing and various Kamala Harris jibs along the way,

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Speaker 18: said Trump.

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Speaker 19: He supported an army of illegal alien gang members and

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Speaker 19: migrant criminals from the dungeons.

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Speaker 2: Of the third world.

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Speaker 19: They come from the dungeons of the third world. Anyone

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Speaker 19: who orchestrated an invasion of America cannot lead America. Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 19: her reign of terror ends the day I take office

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Speaker 19: is finished.

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Speaker 18: So what is it the invasion from the dungeons of

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Speaker 18: Hell in a Kamala Harris reign of terror?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three weeks ago, folks.

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Speaker 18: Harris meantime, has put out her medical records showing she

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Speaker 18: is healthy and challenging the seventy eight year old Trump

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Speaker 18: for keeping all of his medical stuff locked away. While

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Speaker 18: on that point you mentioned the slip in the polls

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Speaker 18: and Harris's support among some African American males former President

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Speaker 18: Barack Obama, who's addressing some of that.

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Speaker 2: Thinking about now or even supporting someone who has a history.

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Speaker 18: So latest polls, we've seen all the polling for months

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Speaker 18: showing this races neck and neck with battleground states, all

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Speaker 18: within the margins of era. Latest from NBC shows that

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Speaker 18: Harris has lost her five point advantage in overall popularity

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Speaker 18: since the Harris Trump debate. Now as you indicate a

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Speaker 18: dead heat, so a US country divide, she's a race.

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Speaker 3: See Wednesday, Richard Donold state side for you. Speaking of Trump.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I read a review over the weekend

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Speaker 3: on The Apprentice got three stars as the Australian media

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Speaker 3: impersonating Donald Trump as a losing proposition. But Sebastians stand

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Speaker 3: nails that this is the program. This is the movie

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Speaker 3: that we featured on the program last week. Looks okay.

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Speaker 3: Trailer looks okay to me. It's out now if you

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Speaker 3: want to go see it. Night Away from seven.

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Speaker 2: The mist breakfast with Veeta, Retirement, Communities news, tops.

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Speaker 3: Edb plain news. Airbus challenging but not impossible. That's their

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Speaker 3: delibery target. September. It fell from from fifty five to fifty.

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Speaker 3: They've still got supply chain issues, they've still got production challenges,

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Speaker 3: reduced annual delivery, blah blah blah. So getting a plane

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Speaker 3: made is hard work these days. Then you come to Boeing.

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Speaker 3: No one's doing it worse than Boeing at the moment.

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Speaker 3: So they've got people on strike. They offered them thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: We've been following the story for the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: They offered them thirty percent. They announced over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: By the way, they're delaying the launch of the Triple

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Speaker 3: seven X, which is the wide body, until twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: They've got a strike on which is a month old.

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Speaker 3: The Triple seven X is already sixty years behind, so

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Speaker 3: it's a mess anyway. So the union turned down thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: So over the weekend Boeing said, well, we're going to

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Speaker 3: lay seventeen thousand people off. So you turn down thirty percent,

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Speaker 3: you go on strike only to watch seventeen thousand of

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Speaker 3: your mates lose their job. What's the point in that?

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Speaker 3: And it's costing the strike five billion dollars in the

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Speaker 3: last month. Incredible, a five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business favor.

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Speaker 2: Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for you. Is it time to talk about Christmas world?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And no so far this month aye October. Mariah Carey

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Speaker 3: has said it is too early to start playing Christmas songs,

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Speaker 3: and she's correct. But what about the shops and the

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Speaker 3: Christmas products came out in the warehouse. They've already got

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Speaker 3: the Christmas range countdown Woolworths. You're seeing the advent calendars

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Speaker 3: already now. According to brand tracking platform Tracksuit, we're a

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Speaker 3: bit split in terms of Christmas advertising. So what we

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Speaker 3: got is forty nine percent of us thinks I think

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Speaker 3: brands should hold out until at least November to launch

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Speaker 3: the Christmas ad. So let's call that virtually half the country.

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Speaker 3: Thirty six percent say Christmas in October or earlier is acceptable.

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Speaker 3: So forty nine to thirty six. I'd say it's a

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Speaker 3: wind to us because I'm on the forty nine anyway,

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Speaker 3: Most of the people are going to of those thirty

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Speaker 3: six of the early planners, because twenty two percent of

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Speaker 3: us say that we start thinking and planning for Christmas

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Speaker 3: six months in the bunch. Now, that's not the same

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Speaker 3: as seeing an advent calendar, seeing something on sale in

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Speaker 3: July and going, oh, yeah, dorisl like that. I just

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Speaker 3: might slip that aside. I did that last week. I

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Speaker 3: got a thing. I can't say because the person will

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Speaker 3: be listening and they'll go, oh, that's for me. But

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Speaker 3: I got a thing last week. I said, now, that

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Speaker 3: are the extra large box of more teasers.

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Speaker 10: And I was it.

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Speaker 3: But I got a thing last week. I thought, no,

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Speaker 3: that's a good gift.

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Speaker 6: You see.

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Speaker 3: So, but I don't want to see the advertising or

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Speaker 3: the songs. So you can be you can be sort

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Speaker 3: of across that spectrum. I'm across a number of spectrums.

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Speaker 3: That's not the first time you'll hear that. Oliver Hart,

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Speaker 3: which from the New Zealand Initiative. Shortly, what was Seymour

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Speaker 3: on about, what are we talking about when it comes

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Speaker 3: to foreign investment? What needs to change? What are these rules?

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Speaker 3: And then separate to that, what was Winston talking about

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. We're going to talk about both those

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Speaker 3: things after the news.

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Speaker 1: Which is next.

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Speaker 2: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 2: like the asking breakfast.

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Speaker 1: With the range rover, the law designed to intrigue and

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Speaker 1: use tog sad B.

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Speaker 3: On seven past seven, So foreign investment talk. Over the

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Speaker 3: weekend Saturday, David Seymour an Act announced reform that will

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Speaker 3: make it easier for foreigners to buy local companies and

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Speaker 3: properties than yesterday. New Zealand first announced the Future Investment

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Speaker 3: Fund idea that they will take to the next election

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand Initiatives executive Director Oliver Hart, which with

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Speaker 3: us on all of this, Oliber morning to you, Good morning, wife,

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Speaker 3: Seymour said over the weekend we're thirty eight out of

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Speaker 3: thirty eight with reputation. We sort of thumb our nose

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Speaker 3: to the world.

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Speaker 1: Is he right?

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Speaker 20: Oh, he's absolutely right. And we've known this for many years.

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Speaker 20: New Zealand has always been one of the hardest places

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Speaker 20: for international investors to come and invest, and we've been

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Speaker 20: ranked in these rankings really at the bottom really for

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Speaker 20: decades and that's why that part of globalization has always

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Speaker 20: bypassed New Zealand. Actually, the share of FDI in our

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Speaker 20: GDPs law than it used to be twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 20: whereas most other countries have advanced. Or David Seymour's absolutely

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Speaker 20: spot on.

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Speaker 3: What's our problem where wes in a.

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Speaker 20: Not necessarily zonophobic, but we just don't like foreign capital.

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Speaker 20: We just make it way too hard for foreign capital

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Speaker 20: to come to New Zealand and be deployed here. We

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Speaker 20: check them, we put them through a massive bureaucratic process.

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Speaker 20: And you know what, New Zealand's a nice to have

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Speaker 20: for these international investors. They look at or bureaucracy and say, actually,

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Speaker 20: is it really worth playing in New Zealand or should

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Speaker 20: we just go somewhere else? And then they typically look

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Speaker 20: at that and invest elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Have we got two completely different things over the week

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Speaker 3: in one from Seymour two from Peter's or are they

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Speaker 3: sorted the same thing?

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Speaker 20: Well, they are related. I mean the significance about Peter's investment,

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Speaker 20: especially in the context of Seymour's, is that New Zealand

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Speaker 20: first for a long time was one of the road

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Speaker 20: blocks to reforms. They didn't want to reform the obseas

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Speaker 20: investment at Seymour now says we have cabinet approval. That

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Speaker 20: means New Zealand verst is in. And then just top

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Speaker 20: it up when St Peter's announced that actually they would

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Speaker 20: like to go at one step further and even have

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Speaker 20: a future fund based on international investment. So that's a

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Speaker 20: very clear signal that New Zealand First has changed their

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Speaker 20: minds and so can only be good news.

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Speaker 3: Can New Zealand First change their mind on that while

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Speaker 3: still blocking foreigners buying houses.

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Speaker 20: Actually none of the investments are about houses. This is

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Speaker 20: really about business investment and both Winston Peters and David

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Speaker 20: Seymour have made it clear that they want to get

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Speaker 20: capital into the economy with the goal of making us

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Speaker 20: more productive. That's not about houses at the moment. It's

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Speaker 20: really about genuine business investment to lift our productivity here.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're an equity fund, sure and hundreds of

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars, I get that. But what if you're

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Speaker 3: in a business investment man who wants to bring in

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Speaker 3: thirty forty million dollars into the country, and you like

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Speaker 3: New Zealand you think, actually it wouldn't mind buying a

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Speaker 3: house and you can't.

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Speaker 20: That of course is an inconsistency. And actually we've said

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Speaker 20: that before the last selection, when those plans were discussed,

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Speaker 20: I think actually we cannot do the two things together.

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Speaker 20: We should actually say we make it easy for you

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Speaker 20: to come and invest in a business, and by the way,

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Speaker 20: of course, we also make it easy for you to

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Speaker 20: buy a house. I would even go a step further.

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Speaker 20: I would say, and then we make it easy for

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Speaker 20: you to get visa for your staff. And we actually

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Speaker 20: roll out the red carpet to make it all happen,

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Speaker 20: because it has to be a packet. If you go

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Speaker 20: to the most successful countries in the world when it

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Speaker 20: comes to foreign acted investment, like Ireland, like Singapore, that's

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Speaker 20: exactly what they do with There are dedicated agencies making

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Speaker 20: it at easy as possible for these international investors to come.

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Speaker 3: Always enjoy your company, Oliver, appreciate. Oliver heartwhich out of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Initiative Winston Peters in about half an hour's

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Speaker 3: time ten minutes past seven, tasking for all the positive

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Speaker 3: news we've had about crime and statistics lately. A little

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Speaker 3: bit of a setback for Auckland anyway, eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy nine gun related events is this year. Only two

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Speaker 3: percent of those involved legal weapons. The rest were illegal

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Speaker 3: and not just illegal weapons, but gun crime generally is up.

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Speaker 3: The Assistant Commission of four Auckland, Sam hoyles with us

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Speaker 3: on this same morning, Mike, are things going wrong?

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Speaker 21: No, Look, any gun violence in our communities are acceptable.

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Speaker 14: And look, these.

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Speaker 21: These crime states represent everything around gun offending, from bigultory

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Speaker 21: offenses that want into really serious stuff at the other

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Speaker 21: any increases of bad things. Some of it is a

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Speaker 21: product of our effort. We've all seen the pictures at

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Speaker 21: the end of a termination of a job on gangs

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Speaker 21: or organized crime members and the stacks of guns, money,

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Speaker 21: and mess. The more that we do, the more guns

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Speaker 21: we're going to find. So it's a mixture of what's

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Speaker 21: going on in the environments, the mixture of very in

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Speaker 21: this space as well against organized crime.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is it all gangs or virtually all gangs?

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Speaker 21: A lot of it is, but it's not all gangs,

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Speaker 21: as it covers the whole game, but from teenagers playing

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Speaker 21: with imitation weapons or esoft weapons through to the really

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Speaker 21: high end stuff. So we're seeing it right across the spectrum.

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Speaker 3: Okay, does this have anything or will it have anything

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Speaker 3: to do with the gun reform and the debate we're

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Speaker 3: having in this country at the moment. Do you have

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Speaker 3: fears around any of that that it's going to get

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Speaker 3: worse or better or it's not going to make any difference.

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Speaker 21: Look, we're being clear with this government in previous governments

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Speaker 21: that we think the France industry is important. It's been

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Speaker 21: implemented now that helps us crack the life of these guns.

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Speaker 21: So when we find them at gang pads, we know

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Speaker 21: we will know in the future who last and awfully

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Speaker 21: hell of that weapon, where it should be, which the

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Speaker 21: imported at the life of that weapon in New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: That helps us with series and patterns and understands how

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Speaker 21: they're sourcing these weapons.

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Speaker 3: All right, so appreciate your insite. Sam Hoyle, who's the

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Speaker 3: Police Assistant Commissioner for Auckland. Twelve minutes past seven MOSC

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Speaker 3: Elbows and Trouble poll out this morning. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: Steve about it later. News poll for the Australian fifty

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Speaker 3: one forty nine and he doesn't have the fifty one

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Speaker 3: so that's the first time the two party preferred has

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Speaker 3: gone against him since the election, so he's in real trouble.

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Speaker 3: That's before you get to starm a new Pole on

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Speaker 3: him this morning. He's so far under water you need

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Speaker 3: a submersible to go see the number minus thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: When we left Friday it was minus thirty five. New

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Speaker 3: Pole has him at minus thirty eight if you missed Friday. Also,

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Speaker 3: there was a local poll out the Carrier Pole which

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Speaker 3: has got National on thirty five, which is down a bit.

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Speaker 3: Labour is up a bit on thirty, So thirty five

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Speaker 3: plays thirty. The Greens unmoved act up a bit to

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Speaker 3: almost ten. New Zealand first up a bit. By the

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Speaker 3: time you've got to act up a bit in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: first up a bit, it sort of offsets the fact

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Speaker 3: that National it down a bit outside their claiming. And

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Speaker 3: this is where I'm highly skeptical of a lot of

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Speaker 3: these poles outside of Parliament. Top who exactly is suddenly

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Speaker 3: on two and a half percent? Now where did that

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Speaker 3: come from? Thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: The like, asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 2: by News Talk said, b.

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Speaker 3: I think lux has got the best attitude to poles generally,

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Speaker 3: which is he doesn't care and as long as he

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Speaker 3: keeps saying that and getting on with the job, he

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Speaker 3: will be better off. Morning Mike Oliver Hart, which is

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand initiative. A smart people always worth watching

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Speaker 3: what they have to say. Jonathan couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen minutes past seven right. A little bit of controversy

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Speaker 3: around this year's cruise season. A couple of issues. One,

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Speaker 3: port calls are expected to be down twenty percent. Two

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Speaker 3: the levees are eating these Newish levees or more levees

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Speaker 3: are eating into the company's bottom lines. To the tune

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Speaker 3: this season of about three million diamond Princess floated into

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Speaker 3: Wellington yesterday. If you want to have a lookout and

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Speaker 3: christ heading that way today. New Zealand Cruise Association boss

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Speaker 3: Jackie Lloyd's with us. Jackie Morning, Good morning. Why are

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Speaker 3: we twenty percent down?

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Speaker 5: Mainly increase cost to operate. So what we've seen over

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Speaker 5: the last year is increases and port fees, increases in

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Speaker 5: government levies, increases in regulation. But also we need to

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Speaker 5: throw across the top of that geopolitical concern. So at

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Speaker 5: the moment the Red Sea, no ships can access through

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Speaker 5: that way. So it's a very long and expensive way

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Speaker 5: to get to New Zealand at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So tourism's mid at eighty five percent generally of

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Speaker 3: what it was pre COVID is what you've just explained

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Speaker 3: why cruising's down or is cruising suffering the same issues

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Speaker 3: tourism broadly suffering.

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Speaker 5: Our issues are mainly the ones I'm talking about globally

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Speaker 5: cruises growing a great gumps and unfortunately New Zealand is

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Speaker 5: the only region globally that's actually seen the reduction. So

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Speaker 5: we're expecting about a twenty percent reduction in port cause

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Speaker 5: and passenger numbers this year.

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Speaker 3: Are our fuse out of line with the rest of

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Speaker 3: the world in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 5: We talking to croiselines and I was just speaking to

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Speaker 5: a handful of them last last month. They have said

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Speaker 5: New Zealand has always been expensive, but this season we

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Speaker 5: are the most expensive region in the world that they're visiting.

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Speaker 5: And that is concerning because you're looking at an industry

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Speaker 5: that of course is you know, looking at their bottom

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Speaker 5: lines and making decisions on where they deployed due to costs,

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Speaker 5: and that deployment decisions are being made to go elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: And who are these people putting these foots on and

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Speaker 3: what's their justification?

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Speaker 5: A lot of it's costs recovery. So particularly after COVID

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Speaker 5: obviously we know the border was shut and we did

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Speaker 5: have a reduction in arrivals and a lot of people

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Speaker 5: doing jobs that our guests need to look to recover

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Speaker 5: those costs in future. So it's increased costs around the ports.

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Speaker 5: We've seen an increase in customs levies which starts on

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Speaker 5: the first of December. That's going up by about our

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Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty six percent, and it had additional

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Speaker 5: even dollars per person.

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Speaker 3: Seeing this, I mean because I understand, like, if you're

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Speaker 3: the customs to partner, you go, oh yeah, let's sting

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Speaker 3: the cruise ships.

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Speaker 6: They're all rich.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, doesn't somebody at you, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Tourism go hold on here, this is going

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Speaker 3: to damage us.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think it's more from a government levee. If

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Speaker 5: you level sorry, if you look at each individual costs

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Speaker 5: on their own, they make sense, but once you start

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Speaker 5: layering them together, it's actually quite a hefty chunk of change.

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Speaker 5: And I'd have to be honest too, it's not just

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Speaker 5: the cruise industry that's seeing this, it's the entire tourism industry.

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Speaker 5: You look at the increase in their international visitor levy increase,

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Speaker 5: and these are fees. They make sense to an extent,

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Speaker 5: but you pile them together, it becomes a very expensive

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Speaker 5: destination to visit.

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Speaker 3: Good on you, Jackie, appreciate. Do we hand out the

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Speaker 3: bullet when we shoot ourselves on the foot? Do you

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Speaker 3: get that from the government as well or do you

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Speaker 3: have to bring your own gun for that particular exercise?

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Speaker 3: God Christal Blux and I'll talk to them about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of which, tourism numbers as I alluded to and

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Speaker 3: will come in a moment to the business of the

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Speaker 3: immigration and that's a complete disaster. But we're seeing some

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Speaker 3: numbers from China up. We're seeing some numbers from Australia.

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Speaker 3: This is tourism up. But we're still stuck at eighty

878
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Speaker 3: five percent of what we were so for the year

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00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: at three point two to three million people coming to

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Speaker 3: the country year on year. The biggest change is China, Australia.

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00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: What can I tell that's about it? Really? Korea, Japan,

882
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: Taiwan's sort of up, but we're mired. We're stuck shooting

883
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Speaker 3: ourselves on the foot. And what's more, the people who

884
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Speaker 3: do come, we charge them more. How weird is that?

885
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Speaker 3: But anyway, it's not as bad as people leaving the country,

886
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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of those as well. So more

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Speaker 3: more numbers, more records, and the wrong sort of records.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid to tell your stats department and form us

913
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: that a record eighty one thousand, two hundred New Zealanders

914
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Speaker 3: left the country in the past year. That's like all

915
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Speaker 3: of Palmerston North just up and off the entire everyone

916
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: in Palmston North gone. Never before have we scarped in

917
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: such large groups. Here's my fear. As well as record

918
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: numbers leaving, smaller and smaller numbers are actually arriving. So

919
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: a several fold issue. I would have thought. Firstly, you

920
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Speaker 3: might expect post COVID a good number of locals to bail,

921
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: but it's years after COVID now and still they go,

922
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Speaker 3: and they go for reasons that are well understood. Currently.

923
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Speaker 3: Basically we're a bit crap and if you're young, there's

924
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: a big, wide world out there. In a lot of interesting,

925
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Speaker 3: potentially more upbeat places to be. Then you've got the arrivals.

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Speaker 3: Although immigration is good and we need it, a couple

927
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: of things are happening there. Firstly, too many of the

928
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: wrong people have arrived because we had our settings all wrong.

929
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Speaker 3: They came from comparatively few countries as well, ie China,

930
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: India and the Philippines. Then those numbers are now slowing dramatically,

931
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 3: which means as arrivals fall, those leaving stay at record levels,

932
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Speaker 3: net gains will eventually reach zero or worse go backwards.

933
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Speaker 3: So we're going backwards. This is bad economically and it's

934
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: bad reputationally. My great fear as overall the young people bailing. See,

935
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Speaker 3: I still love this country, and I love it because

936
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Speaker 3: I've been around long enough to have seen it when

937
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Speaker 3: it was hot, when it was a rocks, when it

938
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Speaker 3: was a magnet. But if you're young, and I look

939
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Speaker 3: at our kids, their perception of New Zealand has been

940
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Speaker 3: shaped by COVID lockdowns and rules and bands and economic carnage.

941
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Speaker 3: Ask any teacher about the behavior, the outlook, the attitude

942
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Speaker 3: of the lockdown generation. It breaks your heart. They have

943
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: never seen a booming New Zealand. So who can blame

944
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: them for getting out, who can blame the laid off,

945
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Speaker 3: for example, the mill worker from the middle of the

946
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: North Island for suddenly heading to Australia. Things, of course

947
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: will come right. There are signs already the turnaround is on.

948
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Speaker 3: But what you don't want in immigration as too many foreigners,

949
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: foreign as tipping the balance based on the fact that

950
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Speaker 3: the locals hate the place and got out. Immigration should

951
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: be about growth, not replacing those who have left husky quaking,

952
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: of which Portugal and here's an idea will never go

953
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: down this track, but they're having a crack. The government

954
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: is going to slash taxes for people thirty five and

955
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Speaker 3: under because you've got a lot of young people moving

956
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: because they're low paid, very low paid. In fact, the

957
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: average salary is under twenty euros and they pay twenty

958
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: six percent by way of a tax rate. So the

959
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Speaker 3: new plan will be if you're under thirty five, you

960
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: can earn up to twenty eight thousand euros and pay

961
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Speaker 3: nothing on that. So, in other words, they're going to

962
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: give that a crack. Meantime, the aforementioned Kia Starma in Britain.

963
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: Part of the reason he's underwater to the tune of

964
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Speaker 3: minus thirty eight is that and listen to this. This

965
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: is everything that's wrong. If you can look around the

966
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: world at the moment, there's a theme developing. Look at

967
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: the labor government in New Zealand useless got thrown out

968
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Speaker 3: of office. Look at the labor government in Australia, hopeless

969
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 3: being caned, and if they went to the election today

970
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: they would lose one term government. Look at Kio Starmer.

971
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: He only celebrated, if that's the word, one hundred days

972
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Speaker 3: on Saturday, and he's buggered the place already. You've never

973
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: seen a guy cock the place up faster than Kiyo Starmer.

974
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Speaker 3: He's given the train guards six hundred bucks a week

975
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: if if they work a five day week. This is

976
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Speaker 3: called an overtime deal. Normally they work four days a week.

977
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Speaker 3: And this was designed to stop staff going on strike

978
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Speaker 3: every Saturday this month, which they had threatened to do.

979
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Speaker 3: And typically if you work more than a four day week,

980
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Speaker 3: you paid time and a half for the Saturday. Plus

981
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: they got a nine and a half percent pay rise

982
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Speaker 3: as well. And you wonder why people are a bit

983
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Speaker 3: aggrieved at that stand by Winston Peter's moments away, the.

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Speaker 2: rural news togs had been Monday.

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Speaker 3: One, in commentary by Chens said we'll go he held

988
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Speaker 3: after eight pay three minutes away from back to the

989
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: idea of more foreign investments into this country, particularly for infrastructure.

990
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: It's a policy New Zealand first we'll take to the

991
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Speaker 3: next election. Apparently Leader Winston Peter says, well us, very

992
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: good morning to you, good night. It's not something you

993
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: could roll out now, seeing it's a half sensible idea.

994
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 17: That's not bad coming from you. Look that is that

995
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 17: if it's worked in time one, it's worked in Singapore,

996
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 17: has worked in Ireland, and worked in places like Iceland

997
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 17: and Order countries, of course it'll work here. It is

998
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 17: so sad that we we used to think that way,

999
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 17: have stopped doing it and as a consequence we're paying

1000
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 17: a huge price for a lack of investment and a

1001
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 17: lack of infrastructure in our country.

1002
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Speaker 3: How does this stubtail in with what David Seymour was

1003
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: talking about over the weekend foreign money coming in for

1004
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: businesses et cetera. I mean They're all related, aren't they.

1005
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: We need to open ourselves up more to the world.

1006
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 17: Well, I couldn't quite follow what he was saying on

1007
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 17: that because we hadn't seen that policy, And what he

1008
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 17: seemed to be saying is a little change the emphasis.

1009
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 17: So if you there's no reason why you can't come,

1010
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 17: you should be allowed to come up, rather another way

1011
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 17: around putting the barriers up person making exemptions. I think

1012
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 17: that's what he was saying in that document. But our

1013
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 17: approach has been to say, look, if it's worked seriously

1014
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 17: overseas and we differently need the money because we've sailed

1015
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 17: to put a we've failed to put away a savings

1016
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 17: fun we've failed to save in the past, and give

1017
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Speaker 17: us the capacity to do what Singapore has done because

1018
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 17: of a sovereign fund or Norway has done. Then we

1019
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 17: need to find the money and humble ourselves and get

1020
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 17: it and get our economy back in the States should

1021
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 17: be where we can be, but at the very front

1022
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Speaker 17: of the world's economic performance countries.

1023
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: From Luxan's travels and your travels as foreign minister, you

1024
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: would have no doubt there is one money out there

1025
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: to be spent and to money that would come here

1026
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: if we were more open to it.

1027
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 17: Oh, most definitely, You're right on both counts. But they

1028
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 17: want the question to answered why would we come to

1029
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 17: New Zealand And we have, over a long period of time,

1030
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 17: failed to answer that question. I can pull Ruth Richardson

1031
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 17: circa ninety ninety one going off shore. Those are the

1032
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 17: whole ot of business people. And though she's going to

1033
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 17: fail for certain because she can't answer the question why

1034
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 17: would I pick New Zealand over another country? And we

1035
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 17: have failed to answer that question for decade after decade,

1036
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 17: he's disappointing. We need to answer that question.

1037
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 14: Now.

1038
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: What is the answer?

1039
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 17: Well, because it's worth of it. We've been centivised it.

1040
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 17: You're going to get guarantees that you will get advantage

1041
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 17: by investing in New Zealand. Why Well, I think that's

1042
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 17: important because if we've got nothing there, we haven't got

1043
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 17: business workforce, a workforce like we need. If we get

1044
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 17: that workforce being paid wages, and then all of a

1045
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 17: suddenly our comedy is going to be strengthened by the

1046
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 17: intervention of foreign money. I'm not talking about global foreign ownership.

1047
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 17: I'm talking about a willing investor to our mutual advantage.

1048
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: So like a PPP. Yes, right, so the government's already

1049
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: talking about that. But back to my original question, why

1050
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: are we doing it right here? Right now? I mean,

1051
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: why do you have to wait until twenty twenty six

1052
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: in Seymour's needs talking about passing the legislation by the

1053
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: end of twenty twenty five. Why don't we just do

1054
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: it because you all seem aligned on the idea, why

1055
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: don't we just do it now?

1056
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 11: Yes?

1057
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 17: Well, not so many years and I've heard this sort

1058
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 17: of what I call neo eclectic view that tax policy

1059
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 17: should be neutral, that you cannot pick winners, when every

1060
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 17: other smart country has been doing precisely that. That's what

1061
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 17: our problem is. They're paralyzed by their education.

1062
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: What tax, what tax treatment or incentivization need to be

1063
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: implemented to get the money here?

1064
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 17: Well, you're going to say, if you come to this country,

1065
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 17: then you're going to get an advartace to do as

1066
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 17: will match most of the best in the world. Your

1067
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 17: taxation will be substantially lower than it would have been

1068
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 17: in another country, and therefore this will be a wise

1069
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 17: country to invest in. I did it Singapore? Did it? Taiwan?

1070
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Speaker 17: Did it Taiwan? Look there's variations on a theme. Taiwan

1071
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 17: had seven, ten and even forty year tax breaks to

1072
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 17: get something started in the second highest population density country

1073
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Speaker 17: in the world with no resources.

1074
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Speaker 3: When at some point, and it's not with equity firms,

1075
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Speaker 3: but it might be with a bloke from wherever who

1076
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Speaker 3: wants to invest ten twenty million dollars into this country

1077
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Speaker 3: to start a business and employ some people. But at

1078
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: some point you're going to have to deal with your

1079
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't like foreigners buying houses thing, aren't you?

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00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 12: Well?

1081
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 17: Sor is going to come in with the lousy twenty

1082
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 17: minute now, I think we're not going to be cutting

1083
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 17: ice for him, But if he's in with a whole

1084
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 17: or she's in with a whole lot of money beyond that,

1085
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Speaker 17: we'd consider it, because you know, the first thing they're

1086
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Speaker 17: going to do is spend about five or six million

1087
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 17: on twenty five million dollar investment on a treatman goneves

1088
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Speaker 17: on the house, and then one quarter gone straight up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good enough, Okay, all right, you're open that

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Speaker 3: you are open to the idea. But because here's my point.

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Speaker 3: My point is that if you want to invest in.

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Speaker 17: As a center for the right investor, will consider anything.

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Speaker 3: So because my point is if you're going to invest

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Speaker 3: some serious money in the country, you want to be

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Speaker 3: part of that country. And if you want to be

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Speaker 3: part of the country, you got to own a house

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Speaker 3: or a hotel, yeah, or whatever. But I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: you're the one who's prevented that from happening. So you're

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Speaker 3: at least suggesting your under the idea that you can

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Speaker 3: change your mind.

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Speaker 17: Now I'm not the one that's spending that happening. I'm

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Speaker 17: the one that's bending an offshore ownership and mostly absentee

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Speaker 17: houses in remire and leafy summers have walked on by

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Speaker 17: people who are buying houses, and there's gonna as a

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Speaker 17: bolthole to something to go wrong somewhere else. You know

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Speaker 17: all about this. Look look at John Key's a previous house.

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Speaker 17: Is it its occupied?

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Speaker 14: No, it's not. So here we go again. No, no, no,

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Speaker 14: we don't get it right.

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Speaker 3: Round up, it's only Monday. I'm just saying that if

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Speaker 3: you want to bring people into the country, eventually they're

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Speaker 3: going to want to have a.

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Speaker 14: House, and that.

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Speaker 17: The right person with the right investment will get.

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Speaker 12: The right place.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So what is the right investment then.

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, I'm not so arrogant. It's just the

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Speaker 17: right a polossey. I want to have a look at

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Speaker 17: the liberal investment required. But let me tell you this,

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Speaker 17: the world is a wash with money. They're looking for

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Speaker 17: a safe place and a secure place for the reason

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Speaker 17: why it's advantageous to company New Zealand to invest here,

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Speaker 17: and we won't provide that answer.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, buying a house.

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Speaker 17: It's got the right investor here. Who's going to argue

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Speaker 17: about them buying a home? No, no, but it's going

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Speaker 17: to drive that diet. The price house surprises up. When

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Speaker 17: we had under member or National, the same money was

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Speaker 17: being rotated through the same bank account as each time

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Speaker 17: they came in and got permission to invest, they would

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Speaker 17: switched to onto the next bankccount when O and over

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Speaker 17: and over again, and it made us look stupid naive

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Speaker 17: And we've done that thing too many times.

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Speaker 3: Shot me to look at you over the weekend, how

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Speaker 3: just into price go by.

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Speaker 1: The way.

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Speaker 17: I was friends to minutes to have.

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Speaker 14: She gave a very good species.

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Speaker 17: I'm so disappointed that she never got the cover to

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Speaker 17: deserve because it was a state of the art speech

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Speaker 17: in terms of what we believe in and she's saying, look,

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Speaker 17: we don't want workers and we want real delivery for

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Speaker 17: real problems. And it's not to do with race. She's

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Speaker 17: half Aboriginals, he's half Irish. You know, we're all half

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00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 17: something and we like us and that's why we had

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00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 17: a We don't betray and ensnare and stare hatefully at

1147
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 17: our past in terms of our other blood or other DNA.

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00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 17: Some of us are Scottish, some of the scenario of Scottish.

1149
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 17: Nobody's perfect, but the reality is we're one Weber, one

1150
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 17: people and I've got this person and but that achieved

1151
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Speaker 17: ready to come to expect that message because it's not

1152
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 17: just for this country. But they were the ones that

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Speaker 17: defeated the Voice, which was going to have a very

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Speaker 17: lead group of Aboriginals running the country or running policy

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Speaker 17: in our there who had no reference to the Audrey

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Speaker 17: Aboriginal just like elitist Mara in New Zealand, and they

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Speaker 17: needed to be stopped in their tracks.

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Speaker 3: My observation of your work over the weekend was that

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Speaker 3: of all the times you've dealt with parties and being

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Speaker 3: in government in the thirty one years, you celebrated your

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00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: current arrangement. White might early days might be the most

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Speaker 3: productive and professional and therefore potentially successful. So far, what

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00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: would your read be?

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Speaker 17: I think, to be fair, both had three years working

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00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 17: with Allan Clark and dare I say, Heather Simpson, And

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 17: there were people who kept their word. Whatever you think,

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00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 17: like the bat or don't like that Alan Clark, she

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00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 17: did take Mahanna and kept it give her worked for

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00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 17: three years and I admire that. But on them in

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Speaker 17: terms of productive side, I think it could be well, right,

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Speaker 17: we've got to make the scholars and worked in the

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Speaker 17: interests of this country, and you know this country is

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Speaker 17: in such a serious need of being turned around for

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00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 17: this sort of personal sideshow that's often his politics, right,

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Speaker 17: But I think about I regret that some of these

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Speaker 17: journals and somebody in the Herald today actually know her

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Speaker 17: and skip hurt aboutical day and I thought, how did

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Speaker 17: he make that stupid statement? You know, just around five minutes,

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00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 17: but he makes a cynical statement about the future. He's

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00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 17: got no idea what the future is going to be

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Speaker 17: in Outdoor is to be successful and the government going

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Speaker 17: forward in twenty twenty six as well.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the time as always, which simplet it is the

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Speaker 3: leader of New Zealand first fourteen too.

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Speaker 2: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 3: I'll put it to lux And tomorrow. But did we

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Speaker 3: get an answer on anything we did in the ind

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Speaker 3: as to why they can't do all this stuff?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Why does everything take so long? So when Seymour says

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Speaker 3: we'll change the Foreign Investment Act and we'll get that

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00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 3: done by the end of next year, is there any

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Speaker 3: urgency about this government at all? It's a weird old business,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. And you'll that I did not ask Winston

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Speaker 3: Peters about the protests over the weekend. The reason I

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Speaker 3: didn't ask Winston Peters about the protest over the weekend

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Speaker 3: as I'm trying my best to separate myself out from

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Speaker 3: the rest of the media, whom I'm increasingly embarrassed by.

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Speaker 3: If two hundred and fifty people had turned up yesterday

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Speaker 3: and rampaged through the doors, screaming and yelling and causing

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Speaker 3: apposite as one one outlet put it, chaos, I went, oh, yes, chaos.

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Speaker 3: What sort of chaos were Were there two or was

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Speaker 3: there only one person? I sort of couldn't work out

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Speaker 3: was that I think there was certainly no more than two.

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Speaker 3: One was a rabid woman and one was a person

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Speaker 3: behind a mask. I couldn't work out we're there four

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Speaker 3: there were four people. Four people does not chaos make

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Speaker 3: nor is it a news story. And every time the

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Speaker 3: media is accused of being out of touch, this is

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Speaker 3: a very good example. Four people is not news in

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Speaker 3: an event that should get proper coverage and wasn't getting

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Speaker 3: proper coverage the moment four people turned up because suddenly

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Speaker 3: four people became the news. And until the media understand that,

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Speaker 3: they will never understand why the bulk of New Zealand

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00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 3: don't like them the way they used to. Nine Away

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Speaker 3: from eight The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villain news.

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Speaker 3: To be shiving away from eight Another scrap for regional

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. The well the cors been made in Horror

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Speaker 3: f anyway that you've got to make your own booms.

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00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: Now it's going to save the council two hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars a year, but it's leaving parts of

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: the town apparently in a bit of a tip. The

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Speaker 3: Horror Finnawa District Council of Sam Jennings with us.

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Speaker 14: Sam.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, morning Mike. How are you going very well? Indeed,

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Speaker 3: how controversial was the decision itself?

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Speaker 22: Well, the decision itself was pretty pretty quiet. It was

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Speaker 22: made as part of the long term plan and we

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Speaker 22: had about four hundred people make submissions. About three hundred

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Speaker 22: and fifty or eighty eight percent were in favor of

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Speaker 22: the Council's moved to make some cuts and indeed try

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Speaker 22: and make some more cuts. But that's all blown up

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Speaker 22: on social media just recently, I guess because of the spring.

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Speaker 3: Growth social media. Eh, so you're telling me a submission

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00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: eighty eight percent wanted you to cut the mowing of

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Speaker 3: the booms.

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, and among other things, we had some really tough

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Speaker 22: decisions around potentially closing and reducing hours of facilities like

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Speaker 22: libraries and pools, selling carbon credits, increasing fees, that kind

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Speaker 22: of thing. So, yeah, there was a range of range

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Speaker 22: of cuts and increases proposed.

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Speaker 3: Do you still supply rubbish bins?

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Speaker 14: No, we so that that is outsourced to a to

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Speaker 14: the private market.

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Speaker 3: So in a part, do you have a rubbish bin

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00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: that's cleared at all or not?

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes we do.

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Speaker 3: We still have because they don't collect rubbish in Auckland

1251
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: anymore and they don't supply rubbish bins and the whole

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Speaker 3: thing is a complete cluster. So at least you're better

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Speaker 3: off than us. It's two hundred and forty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: as a thing for a horror FANUA council. That is

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Speaker 3: that a worthwhile saving? I mean, is that what percentage

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Speaker 3: of a budget?

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Speaker 11: Is that?

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Speaker 22: So that was about half a percent of rates, So yeah,

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Speaker 22: it is certainly a decent amount of money. But in combination,

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Speaker 22: we were steering down the barrel of a twenty four

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Speaker 22: percent rate increase, driven mostly by insurance interest cost appreciation,

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Speaker 22: but we got that down to sixteen point six percent.

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Speaker 22: And you know, we have done some things like we're

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Speaker 22: closing cent facilities on a Sunday and there's been a

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Speaker 22: seven percent reduction in our workforce, so about a million

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Speaker 22: dollars saving and employee costs. So there's been some pretty

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Speaker 22: tough decisions to be honest.

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Speaker 3: Good what's your debt?

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Speaker 22: So we're one of the one of probably one of

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Speaker 22: the worst in terms of debt debt capacity, and yeah,

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Speaker 22: we look we're really pretty constrained. We've we've invested a

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Speaker 22: lot in water supply and waste water. One of the

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Speaker 22: few councils that discharged to land and not into water WASYS.

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Speaker 22: So we've got some big debt numbers, but we're also

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Speaker 22: in a significant growth phase, so seeing a lot of development.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, Sam, good and so I appreciate

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Speaker 3: it very much. Sam Jennings horrorfor who are district councilor

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Speaker 3: I've never understood why if you have a house and

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00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: you have a boom outside, if you mowing your own lawns,

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Speaker 3: why you're not mowing the boom. It seems the weirdest

1281
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: thing unless you got a house that has no lawn

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Speaker 3: at all and you're responsible for the boom outside. And

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Speaker 3: I just can't imagine there are that many houses around

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00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: with literally no lawn but a boom outside, and suddenly

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: you got to try and find somebody to do your launa,

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00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: buy yourself a weed whacker or a lawnner. It's a

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Speaker 3: strange thing that people get upset about. Three nil are

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Speaker 3: we gripped by the America's cup Yet the lack of

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Speaker 3: wind is proving to be a bit of an issue,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. And Bathurst yesterday as good as I got. Yes,

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Speaker 15: Bright Caros have made it.

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Speaker 3: See Bummings in PC semi.

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01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 16: Final, Tenbury total and utter domination amongst the vines in Blenham.

1305
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 15: New Zealand's end the year on the high thirty nine

1306
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 15: to fourteen over front.

1307
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 11: They have controlled Race three from League one through six

1308
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 11: on the back of an aggressive start.

1309
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Speaker 3: Just round up Hemorhates Team New Zealand will.

1310
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 13: Now move to a three mil lead and the Louis

1311
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 13: Witton thirty sevens America's Cup.

1312
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Speaker 14: Match is.

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Speaker 2: The Monday morning commentary barks on the My Casting Breakfast

1314
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

1315
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: over fifty years.

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Speaker 3: Andrew sevil go I have help both with us lads.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, morning, morning mate. I spent a bit of

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: time this week guy, trying to find you on the telly.

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Speaker 1: Are you on?

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Speaker 3: Are you on channel sixty two or sixty three? Sixty

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01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: two sixty two because YEA three seems to be there.

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01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: Is sixty three the Australian channel and sixty two is

1323
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Speaker 3: the New Zealand slash Australian channel.

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 11: Sixty two so track Side one is on is the

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Speaker 11: main big races of the weekend, and sixty two or

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Speaker 11: sixty three rather track Side two is probably what your

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Speaker 11: term the secondary races. And we also have track Site

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Speaker 11: Premiere which you can find on scott You can also

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 11: find on TVNZ plus Trackside and that has longer build

1330
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 11: ups to races and.

1331
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: More longer build ups to races. When I went to

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 3: sixty two, all I got with the dogs? Do you

1333
01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: do the dogs?

1334
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 11: What day were you watching?

1335
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: Let's call it? Let's call it Thursday, Thursday or Wednesday?

1336
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 11: Maybe you should watch the weekend.

1337
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: Sort of in the afternoons about one one thirty sort of.

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01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: I had it since as sort of as a losers time.

1339
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: It's it's people who are losing, they've got nothing better.

1340
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 19: To do with it.

1341
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 14: Were there are a lot of people at the dark

1342
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 14: as much.

1343
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: No one at the dogs, Andrew, there was no one there.

1344
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: There was some guy.

1345
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 14: I thought guy was on channel like one hundred and

1346
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 14: ten just passed when cats go wrong?

1347
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 19: No.

1348
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: Sixty two there was one guy. There was six dogs

1349
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: out of control and one guy trying to round them

1350
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: up and put them in boxes is all I could see.

1351
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 11: There was excellent racing on the weekend.

1352
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 20: Know I have you know.

1353
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 11: A group one in New Zealand, a group runs across

1354
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 11: the ditch. If you had to watch it on Saturday, Mike,

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01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 11: I think.

1356
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: Well, here's my problem.

1357
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: I was.

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: I was busy on Saturday. That's the that's the other.

1359
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: And yesterday, of course ANDREI I was flat out with

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01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: which was seene sational as a race.

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01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 14: Hey, just back to the races. We'll go out on it.

1362
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 14: We'll go out on a team trip one weekend, Mike.

1363
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 14: We'll go we'll go around a couple of public bars, right,

1364
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 14: smoky hazy public bars, and we'll see guy on the TV.

1365
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Speaker 3: Then Okay, we'll go and report back.

1366
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 17: We'll walk.

1367
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 14: You may have to take up vaping or cigarette smoking,

1368
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 14: but I'm sure you can handle that.

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01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: Okay, nowhere is it all?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, I only saw little chunks of bath. This

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01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 14: was it that exciting?

1373
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 3: It was because I'm I'm sorry.

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Speaker 12: Guy.

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Speaker 3: Did you get your hit up above the rail from

1376
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 3: the third to have a look at it? Did you?

1377
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Speaker 11: What was exciting about Baist?

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01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: What was exciting about it was one they were setting.

1379
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 3: They were setting qualifying times at the end of a race.

1380
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: You think about that, when you go for a qualifying lap,

1381
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: you get a single lap to go as fast as

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01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: you can, no one else on the trap. After seven

1383
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: hours behind the wheel, you're still going as fast, if

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01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: not faster.

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Speaker 1: That skill it don't.

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Speaker 14: Don't give me wrong.

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Speaker 11: There's skill, absolutely the skill in it. But from a

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Speaker 11: from a viewer's point of view, was it really an

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Speaker 11: exciting race?

1390
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: Yes it was?

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 11: Yes, Yes, there was skill.

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01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: There was a yellow, there was a safety car. Safety

1393
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: car after one thirty condensed the field, So the final

1394
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: thirty lefs or so was half a.

1395
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 11: Second one safety car, which made it exciting.

1396
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: You want carnage?

1397
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: Is that?

1398
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: Is that your marker of motorsport.

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Speaker 23: Is it?

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Speaker 3: How many yellow so you get sixteen safety cars? That's

1401
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 3: a good race, is it?

1402
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 11: I want variation, I want to go, I want from

1403
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 11: The coverage was outstanding and it always is and that's

1404
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 11: what kept it interesting.

1405
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 14: The access to take from remarkle apart from when castick

1406
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 14: you went to the pets or a code driver. Did

1407
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 14: they even lose the lead from start to finish?

1408
01:04:59,040 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 19: No?

1409
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: No, And exactly that was the other thing. Guy from

1410
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: a sporting point of view, is Kastiki at the start

1411
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 3: of the season, you remember, it wasn't even there. So

1412
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: this is a guy who for reasons we still don't know,

1413
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: walked away from his team, broke his contract, got into

1414
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: all sorts of trouble, has come back, has never been

1415
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: the same since until yesterday.

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Speaker 11: It's a great story, doesn't make an exciting race. I'll

1417
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 11: stick to this.

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01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 14: This isn't it amazing watching the helmet cam vision, which

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01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 14: if amazing, I think, but you get the full realization.

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 14: Number one, how fast they're going. Secondly, how much of

1421
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 14: an incline that mountain and going down the other side

1422
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 14: of the decline is massive? Isn't it's huge?

1423
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: Exactly, there's Bathhurst is brilliant. The race is brilliant, The

1424
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: whole the history behind it is brilliant, et cetera, et cetera,

1425
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 3: et cetera. Do you have any numbers, Andrew on the

1426
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: America's Cup? Do you have any indication of how many

1427
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: people are watching this or no?

1428
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 14: No, No, I've checked a few numbers on YouTube, but

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 14: that's not the total.

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: Well, how many people watch it on YouTube? I watched

1431
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: the word smoker on YouTube.

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 22: Well it looked like two or three hundred thousand on YouTube.

1433
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 3: Well that's pretty that's pretty good for YouTube, isn't it.

1434
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 14: Well not globally, is it?

1435
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 7: Oh?

1436
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, globally. So YouTube is all over the world, right,

1437
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: not just YouTube dot, not just.

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01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 14: In New Zealand. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, global too, the

1439
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 14: www dot whatever, that's global too, Mike. But no, I

1440
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 14: would imagine there's more interests in the finals now that

1441
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 14: for New Zealand as certainly, but not the type of

1442
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 14: interest if the racing was here obviously.

1443
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: Now that's an interesting point. More in the moment, Andrew

1444
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: seibl guy hebelt thirteen past.

1445
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1446
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:44,920
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1447
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: It be News Talks sixteen past eight.

1448
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

1449
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

1450
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: over fifty years.

1451
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: Andrew Sebral Guy helt guy from the mail bag this morning?

1452
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: Can you please guy, what are the chances of number

1453
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: two perennial and Race six at Tamworth? Good question.

1454
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 11: I haven't done my Tamworth for me.

1455
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 14: Come back to you.

1456
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what the point of having you on

1457
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: the show is.

1458
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 11: It is it?

1459
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 14: Is it Tamworth or Tamworth.

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01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 3: Tam with yeah, I mean Worth spelt, but tam with nada.

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Speaker 14: I can't. I can't wait for our trip to the

1462
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 14: public Bar.

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01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be good times.

1464
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 14: It's going to be a couple of.

1465
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: Do you know my wife she heard you say chicken

1466
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Schnitty's when you're on your trip to Australia the other

1467
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: week and she cooked me that that weekend, a chicken schnitzel.

1468
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 3: She went out and get a special chicken schnitzel because

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01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 3: she went absolutely superb.

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 14: And what did you have with that? Did you have

1471
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 14: a little bit of gravy on top or not?

1472
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Speaker 3: I had I had. I had a I had some

1473
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: pooty archy, and I had some kimchi sprinkles. Yeah, because

1474
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: you put that on everything. Absolutely.

1475
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 11: Did you have three like Andrew Wood?

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: I had one?

1477
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 14: What was the other? Was it a vegetable?

1478
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 12: You had?

1479
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: What was that kim chi sprinkles?

1480
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 10: Oh?

1481
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 14: No, sorry, now you mentioned something.

1482
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: I was likechy or.

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01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeh for rearchy? Oh yeah, put it on. It will

1484
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: be amazed. Nanna Dahl Andrew where's he said? And he's retired, retiring?

1485
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: Where's he said?

1486
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 12: Ah?

1487
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 14: I don't think the greatest of the greatest ever on

1488
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 14: clay clearly, greatest ev all round, probably not, but the

1489
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 14: way he played tennis was revolutionary. Just the physical the

1490
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 14: physical nature of his game pretty much has ruined his

1491
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 14: body in the end. Is I'm surprised he has even

1492
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 14: made it through to thirty eight. I'll never forget seeing

1493
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 14: him in Auckland for the first time. I think it

1494
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 14: was two thousand and four. He came here as a teenager.

1495
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 14: He made the final. It's a shame he didn't win

1496
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 14: because that would have been his first ever ATP or

1497
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 14: top tour win. But you knew back then this wiry

1498
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 14: Spaniard with a huge left arm was going to be better.

1499
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 3: You see wiry. He went through that that I suddenly

1500
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: got really big face, didn't he?

1501
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 14: Well he was, he was wiry when he turned up here.

1502
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 14: He had sort of the bandana to sleep with shirt,

1503
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 14: the baggy shorts. He was pretty hip and cool, but

1504
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 14: he wasn't that big. He had a he had a

1505
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 14: strong left arn arm on him, but generally he wasn't big.

1506
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 3: So did Roscoe Tanna then, having said that, he looks wrecked,

1507
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: doesn't he. He's one of those guys who looks worse

1508
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 3: than he is whatever age he is. He looks disheveled

1509
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: and broken down and like it's threshed him.

1510
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 14: Yes, he's unlike who still looks the same right exactly.

1511
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 11: He's looking like that for a while and this has

1512
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 11: been coming for a while. Really, he would be I

1513
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 11: think he'd be second in terms of asking answering your

1514
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 11: original question, I think he'd be sickond Djokovic is the greatest,

1515
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 11: the greatest. Where do you like him or not?

1516
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 12: He is?

1517
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 11: Well, he's still going exactly, and I think Nadale is

1518
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 11: not too far behind him, and Feda is probably, if

1519
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 11: not level with Nadale, just behind him.

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01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't put Lindal, I'd put Linda right up there.

1521
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 11: I think these three and this is this is tennis

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Speaker 11: has been just incredible in the last twenty years and

1523
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 11: the fact that we've got to witness it, and I

1524
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 11: think it's a bit of a worry that these three

1525
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 11: are pretty much all leaving at the same time. And yes,

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 11: there are good players coming through Alkahrez So.

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Speaker 14: It's a massive worry guy, Isn't it like when William's

1528
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 14: sisters left women's tennis the US. There is some good players,

1529
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 14: but no one knows who they are exactly exactly.

1530
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 3: Alkhaz and Center are not Nadal Confederer.

1531
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 11: No, No, by no means the Black can rivalry either.

1532
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 11: The greatest thing.

1533
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: About that, the Black capsist thing in India is this

1534
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 3: of interest in generally, are we going to get caned?

1535
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 11: Well, I think they're going to get caned, absolutely, but

1536
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 11: it is I mean, I'm a cricket fan, so it

1537
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 11: is of interest. It's always an interest in the black

1538
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 11: Caps get to play in India. It doesn't happen that

1539
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 11: much in terms of Test matches, but I think they

1540
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 11: are going to be some distance behind the hosts, that's

1541
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 11: for sure. I think there's I mean, I keep saying it.

1542
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 11: They are a big problems and there are going to

1543
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 11: be big problems with that team, I think for a while.

1544
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 11: Yet it's going to be a hate using this term

1545
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 11: in a rebuilding phase for a while. We've had a

1546
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 11: very very good Blacket Black Cats team for almost ten years,

1547
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 11: probably not quite there, and a few of those good

1548
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 11: players have leased or fell out of form or retired,

1549
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 11: and so I just don't think it's going to be

1550
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 11: as good as a team as we've seen, and it

1551
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 11: might take another few years them to get back to

1552
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 11: any sort of level like it s.

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: Do you want a bit of fun today? You always

1554
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: look look up? Nope, No, look up Jimmy but you

1555
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 3: know Jimmy.

1556
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 14: Butler, Jimmy Butler the basketballer.

1557
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 3: Yep, look up the video of his wine cellar?

1558
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 12: Right?

1559
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: Does it?

1560
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 14: And how does it compare to yours? Or the shoe coverared?

1561
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 3: It's like nothing you've ever seen. It's it's you're genuinely

1562
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: torn between is it a bit of wine collection or

1563
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: is it a bit of piece of architecture as a room?

1564
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 3: It's wow, like nothing you've ever seen.

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 11: In fact, of Monday, you watched any of that series

1566
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 11: on Netflix. That's just it's like it's called Starting five.

1567
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not bad.

1568
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 3: Nothing beats Quarterback to my view so far.

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Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I mean, well, the last dance

1570
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 14: was right at the top, isn't it.

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think.

1572
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 14: Did you watch You've Reminted a Bess yesterday?

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 3: No, of course not. But I sort of came in

1575
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 3: and out. I keep the screens and the various places

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01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: on so I can move through and sort of not

1577
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 3: slow down. But still, if it was.

1578
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 11: As exciting as you said it was, you would have

1579
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 11: watched the whole Did you.

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Speaker 14: Watch it on your new screen, the new correct?

1581
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 3: Yep, watch it on a new screen, old screen, big screen,

1582
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,839
Speaker 3: all the screens. Sam tells me my new screen apparently

1583
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 3: can be split into four screens. I I don't know

1584
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 3: how that works. And you're certainly not coming around to

1585
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: my house.

1586
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 14: Maybe if you've got maybe, if you've got a heck

1587
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 14: saw in your garage? Have you seen it yet?

1588
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: You do turn up so rarely these days. I've given.

1589
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 11: You could have track side one permanently on one of

1590
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 11: the parts that you might one of the screen.

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Speaker 3: Could I no, no, I'm not going to do that,

1592
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: but thanks guy, Guy have Elt and Andrew Saville twenty three.

1593
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Speaker 1: The mic Cosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate.

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Speaker 3: You talk now for Bailey's real Estate being altogether better

1595
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: means being your trusted partner in every corner of the

1596
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Speaker 3: property sector. So they've worked super hard to build this

1597
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Speaker 3: trust back by proven results of commitment to doing things

1598
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Speaker 3: differently across the residential, commercial, of course, rural and property

1599
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Speaker 3: services proudly one hundred percent key, we owned and locally operated.

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Speaker 3: That's what we love. With the national network of more

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Speaker 3: than two thousand real estate professionals in one hundred branches

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Speaker 3: all over this beautiful country, they've got the boots on

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Speaker 3: the ground across the country. So they've made it their

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Speaker 3: business to add value to yours with integrity and a

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Speaker 3: depth of knowledge, no matter where in New Zealand you are. Bailey's.

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Speaker 3: They've been a leader in real estate innovation since nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy three. They've focused on people centric solutions while providing

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Speaker 3: unmatched expertise and relentless prefer rationalism and wrap around support

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Speaker 3: that nets optimal results time after time. It's the Bailey's difference,

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Speaker 3: Basically altogether better for all New Zealanders with no plans

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Speaker 3: to stop either. Why would you win? You the best

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Speaker 3: of the best for goodness sake Baileys dot Co dot

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Speaker 3: m Z licensed under the Area eight of two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight, asking Mike, you got to take most titles

1615
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Speaker 3: into account, not just Grand slams my view Novak one,

1616
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Speaker 3: Federer two, Nadhal three. Where does Borg and Lendel fitted

1617
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Speaker 3: or where do Borg and lend All fitting stand by,

1618
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Speaker 3: We'll go to Australia. It's poll DA and Australia. Steve Price,

1619
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: He's up after the news, which is next here at

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Speaker 3: News Talks be.

1621
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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews.

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Speaker 2: The mic asking breakfast with the range Rover vi LA

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Speaker 2: designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 3: EDB nobody Mike is mentioning agacy or sampras. No, that's

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Speaker 3: why it's a great debate, of course, Mike TV and

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Speaker 3: z pol tonight. I hope you're right on that. Who

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 3: doesn't love a good by the way? I note this

1628
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 3: morning and yet another round of hiring lawyers for no

1629
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: particular reason. The better New Zealand trust. Who are they? Well,

1630
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 3: they're pro ev people. They're taking Simeon Brown, Transport Minister

1631
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 3: to court because Simeon Brown lowered the tailpipe CO two

1632
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: emissions for car imports. We cover this relatively extensively on

1633
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 3: the program. In totality, it was costing the country too much.

1634
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: The newer the car brought into the country. In other words,

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 3: the less emissions, the more expensive the car. Bacaine. The

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 3: government said, we don't want cars more expensive in this

1637
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Speaker 3: country anyway. He didn't consult widely enough. I don't know

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: what a court's supposed to do with that, but let

1639
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: me come back to that later on twenty two minutes

1640
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 3: away from nine.

1641
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1642
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: for New Zealand Business to.

1643
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: Steve Price, Happy new week to you.

1644
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Speaker 21: You do Michael?

1645
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 3: And how many Mondays do you? Reckon Albanez he has

1646
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 3: to get up and go. Things aren't going too well

1647
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 3: before we get it's a bit sick of it.

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 12: I think he's sick of it already. I mean you

1649
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 12: can tell it in his body language. I reckon, you

1650
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 12: talk it. Excuse me, you talk it At the latest

1651
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 12: newsport and in the Australian newspaper this morning. It's got

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 12: the Coalition in front for the first time since the

1653
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 12: twenty twenty two election. They're now leading Labor fifty one

1654
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 12: to forty nine. That would not be a good headline

1655
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 12: to wake up to for the PM. As you remark,

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01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 12: the reason this has happened, it seems, is that, as

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01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 12: you know, we have this crazy electoral system where preferences

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 12: flow to the major parties. It looks like some of

1659
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 12: the minor parties, like One Nation, they're now changing their

1660
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 12: preferences and putting them up there. For Peter Dutton, Labor

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 12: Party is not getting as many preferences from the Greens

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 12: that they would normally get, so the primary votes are

1663
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 12: about the same. Labours at thirty one now. When they

1664
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 12: went to the last election, that primary vote was thirty

1665
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 12: two and a half, so they've gone backwards. By the

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 12: coalition's primary vote hasn't changed. It's at thirty eight percent,

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01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 12: two points higher than the last election. So it's very

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01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,879
Speaker 12: very interesting. We now, of course, are going to probably

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 12: see an election in May next year. The two point

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01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 12: shift in two party preferred as I said, it shows

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 12: Pauline Hansen's One Nation going to seven and the Greens

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01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 12: now their supports at twelve percent. How it is at twelve.

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01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 12: I've got no idea, but this is a very bad

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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 12: pole for Anthony ALBANIZI.

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Speaker 3: And the Fairs. From the side of the tasment, it

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: looks like he deserves it. He looks a mess. Is

1677
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 3: that a fair observation?

1678
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Speaker 12: Body languages? I said it's not good, is it? I

1679
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 12: mean he doesn't look strong and Australians like to elect

1680
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 12: someone they believe is going to be a strong leader.

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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 12: Anthony Albanize last week was in lao As as he

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01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 12: should be. Peter Dutton was back here campaigning as he

1683
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 12: has been for the last few months now. Yesterday, where

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01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 12: do you think Peter don't turned up to do his camp?

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Speaker 3: He was at Bathurst.

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Speaker 12: On the grid at Bathurst he spent the whole day

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01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 12: watching the race, which is sort of Bogan Heaven for

1688
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 12: Australian's bathist. It's a great event and fifty thousand people there.

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01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 12: He was seen on the grid before the race started.

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 12: National anthem has sung. He was singing it Anthony Albernezy. Meanwhile,

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01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 12: he was at a major football stadium in Sydney celebrating

1692
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 12: Greek Easter or Greek Orthodox with a Greek Orthodox preacher.

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 12: You could not get a bigger contrast between the two exactly.

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01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: So when are we're having the election next year as

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01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 3: late as possible.

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Speaker 12: Yes, because they've now put out the sitting dates for

1697
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 12: next year, and there is a date in the Federal

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 12: Parliament for a budget in March, which would mean you

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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 12: wouldn't go to it. You wouldn't think you'd go to

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01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 12: an election before that budget's handed down because you've got

1701
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 12: the opportunity in government to hand out money. So you're

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 12: going to be having to what they're hoping for labor

1703
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 12: is an interest rate cut sometime in February probably next year.

1704
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 12: Then you have a budget which you'll dole out door

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01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 12: to people, and then you go to an election in May.

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 12: And that's as long as they can go. He can't

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Speaker 12: go any later than May next year.

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Speaker 3: Okay. When you went to Greece recently, and this is

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: as regards Charles, who's d you at your place any

1710
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 3: day now? When you went to Greece, did you take

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: your own doctors in your own blood or did you

1712
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: just take some luggage just a doctor I.

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01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 12: Didn't take any blood because he could have sort of

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01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 12: that out if it was a problem. Now, are you

1715
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 12: still annoyed that King Charles.

1716
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: I am coming to see you, Yes I am, because

1717
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: I love Charles and I was at the coronation and

1718
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: I thought that was a thing that we'd bonded over.

1719
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 3: And he just can't even be bothered turning up here.

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 12: Well, forty one years ago I spent a month on

1721
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 12: the road with him and Lady Diana, so I know

1722
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 12: I got to know him quite well as well. Now

1723
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 12: I think he should immediately rethink what he's doing here.

1724
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 12: He should come to New Zealand and cut out Sydney

1725
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 12: from his Australian visit. Because it was revealed in the

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01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 12: Sunday Papers yesterday that he arrives King Charles arrives Friday

1727
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 12: night and he has a night of a day of

1728
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 12: rest Saturday. Then he's in Sydney on Sunday, Canberra on Monday.

1729
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 12: But guess what, all of our great premiers, including I

1730
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 12: might say a Liberal premier, have decided they're too busy

1731
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 12: to attend a reception in Canberra Monday Night hosted by

1732
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 12: King Charles, featuring a lot of famous Australian sportspeople, charity workers,

1733
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 12: people who do great things for the nation. Just Inda

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Speaker 12: Allen said, oh, I've got Cabinet on that day. I

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Speaker 12: don't think I'll be able to get up to Canberra.

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Speaker 12: Canberra is forty minutes by air from here, and she's

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Speaker 12: decided it's more important to talk to her cabinet about

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01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 12: how she sent Victoria broke than going and seeing It'll.

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Speaker 3: Be a Republican, won't she?

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Speaker 12: Oh? One hundred percent, so is Anthony Albanezi. I mean,

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Speaker 12: you know, bending ane to King Charles by elbow is

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01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 12: probably going to make him feel as sick as reading

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01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 12: this morning's news Polt quite frankly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame. And then he's got to go

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Speaker 3: to Sarmara of course. By the way, let me give

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Speaker 3: you these numbers I read over the weekend about Victoria

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: and rental stock in Victoria and whether you would agree

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01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 3: with this or would have answered the question the number

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Speaker 3: back to rentals and Victoria has fallen by twenty two

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Speaker 3: thousand properties this year. Everyone's selling up. It's a result

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Speaker 3: of higher rental standards increased land taxes, so it's a

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01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: tight market for rentals. Sharpest fall in rental stock since

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Speaker 3: record keeping began in nineteen ninety nine. Only ever recorded

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Speaker 3: two quarters of rental bond falls, and both occurred in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, So they buggered the rental market. Is

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Speaker 3: that your assessment of what's going on in your hometown?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, completely blown it up. I mean, you go for

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01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 12: a walk in any of the inner Melbourne suburbs and

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01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 12: you'll see for sale signs on every apartment. What do

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Speaker 12: they have in common? Most of them are one betters

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Speaker 12: And the reason that people are selling them is because

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01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 12: they have slept land tax on all of these places.

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Speaker 12: No one wants to play the land tax, so landlords

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Speaker 12: are going or bug of that. Yeah, I'll sell up

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01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 12: in Melo and then I'll buy a two bedroom unit

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Speaker 12: cheaper in Queensland, rent it out up there, and I

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Speaker 12: don't have all these taxes on the properties that I own.

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Speaker 12: They have completely stuffed the real estate market in the

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Speaker 12: state they run, and so.

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Speaker 3: The government don't recognize this as being a problem.

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Speaker 12: I need the money. They can't rethink Thatuys, it's a

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 12: problem because they need the money. Without the money, we'd

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Speaker 12: be even more broke than we already are.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that if you know the answer. But

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Speaker 3: I have followed with a great deal of fascination this

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Speaker 3: business of extracting Australians out of Lebanon and none of

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Speaker 3: them turn up for the flight. Why are people insistent

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Speaker 3: on staying in Lebanon?

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Speaker 12: Do you know the pooll of Lebanon is too strong

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Speaker 12: for a lot of them? A lot of these people.

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Speaker 12: We had massive immigration, as you know, from Lebanon under

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01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 12: Paul Keeping in the eighties when the Civil War was

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 12: at its peak. We've got a massive Lebanese community, particularly

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Speaker 12: in Sydney Southwest. People get to retirement age and they go, Okay,

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Speaker 12: I'm going to get a pension from Australia and go

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Speaker 12: back and live in my village in Lebanon. That's why

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Speaker 12: they're not getting on a plane, because they don't want

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Speaker 12: to come back to you.

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Speaker 3: Unreal All right, make go We'll see Wednesday. Step Price

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Speaker 3: out of Australia six forty five, make it eight forty five.

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Speaker 2: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 2: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be Mike big problem with the car emissions targets

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01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 3: where they were unrealistic, more stringent than Europe. We don't

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: make our own cars. We have to take whether the

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01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: countries trying to make we wouldn't have been able to

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 3: get any kind of stock exactly. So what Simon Brown

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 3: did this is going back to the Better New Zealand Trust.

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Speaker 3: What sim and Brand did was take a sensible everyone's

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Speaker 3: got their own. There's so few people in this country

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Speaker 3: just can't let the country get on with it. They've

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Speaker 3: got their own and the Better New Zealand Trust. They're

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Speaker 3: all pro evs and until we get you spanning you

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 3: into an EV, they're not happy. So Simmy and Brown went, well,

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 3: under these rules, the cost of a car is going

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01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 3: to go through the roof. We don't want the cost

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01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 3: of car going through the roof. So I'm going to

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01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 3: make a sensible decision and I'm going to change the rules.

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01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: Now they don't like that, and they claim that he

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01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 3: talked to four motor in groups, none of which agreed

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01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: with them. So because they didn't agree with them, if

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01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 3: they talk to them, they would have said something different.

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 3: But they forget even then talking to them. So you

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01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: go along to bet in New Zealand Trust and you go,

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01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 3: so what do you reckon I should do? They go, no, No,

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01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: you should stick by the rules and everyone should buy

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Speaker 3: an Evy. Okay, fine, thanks very much. I've had my

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01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 3: consultation I'm going to go ahead and do what I

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 3: want to do. Do you know why he's going to

1820
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 3: do that? Because he's the government. And what's the point

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 3: of hiring a lawyer and wandering off the course to

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01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: have a judge going, I wonder what's happened to here?

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Speaker 3: And then maybe the judge even if the judge goes, well,

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: absolutely right. This is This is part thirteen of the

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Speaker 3: Clean Vehicles Standard at the Lands Transport Act, which is

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01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 3: to quote unquote to achieve a rapid reduction in carbon

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: dioxide emissions from light vehicles and ported into New Zealand

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Speaker 3: to assist New Zealand and meeting his twenty fifty tit

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Speaker 3: in the mission to the judgment, Well tell you how

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01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: fabulous you win. Then what happens nothing because the government

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01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 3: can do whatever they want, stop hiring lawyers.

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Speaker 6: And Stevenson go on to be a judge after book.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't bad, was it? Actually it wasn't Now and

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Speaker 3: now I think about that. Ten minutes away from nine

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Speaker 3: the my hosting.

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Speaker 1: Racist with Alveda Retirement Communities.

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Speaker 3: News, let me ask you this question, Hitler Line over

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01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 3: the weekend war in inverted brackets war as banks compete

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01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: for lowest home loan rates. So if there's a war,

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01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 3: what's the Commonist Commission and the government doing involved in

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01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 3: the banking sector telling us there is no competition in

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01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 3: the banking sector. If there's no competition in the banking sector,

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01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: how can you have a war? War generally into crates

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: this competition, And according to this particular story, there is

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01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: a war between banks competing, competing another word for competition,

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01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: competing for the lowest homelan rates. So there's people out

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01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: there busily spooking for your business at the moment. Is

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01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 3: that or is that not competition? For goodness sake, seven

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01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: away from.

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Speaker 2: Nine trending now with chemist wars savings every day.

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Speaker 3: I MdeR this particular discussion reluctantly because these people are

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Speaker 3: beneath me, and I don't like to sully myself with

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: up and comers. But nevertheless, I have to return, unfortunately

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Speaker 3: to the afternoon program. I mean, beneath you in so

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01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: many ways, precise the whole thing. Anyway, I returned to this,

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Speaker 3: this this fledgling afternoon show that we've got going here

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01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 3: at news Talks, they'd be with Taylor and Matt and

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: is it Tyler, is it?

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Speaker 11: Sorry?

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01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: My apologies, Tyler and Matt, so anyway.

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Speaker 12: Just call them the Afternoon Show.

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Speaker 3: The Afternoon Show anyway. So I was complaining about the

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Speaker 3: grubbiness of the way they operate and the disgusting mess

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Speaker 3: that they make and leave down in the studio. Now,

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Speaker 3: I would have thought that would have been plenty when

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Speaker 3: Mike Costing speaks, I've lent them my studio for goodness sake,

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01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: I've lent them the Hosking Sweet to welcome them to

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Speaker 3: the stadium, the studio, sorry, might be to the studio.

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Speaker 3: It's quite last year. It's the same thing. And to say,

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Speaker 3: come on, guys, you be the little afternoon show that could.

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Speaker 3: And I sort of wanted to encourage them, and all

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Speaker 3: they do drop food all the way over the floor.

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Speaker 6: And then this, how dear Mike to suggest that I'm eating.

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Speaker 13: I don't know where he got that from. I don't

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 13: know who's even front around broadcast. With fourteen years experience,

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 13: I'm not going to be eating in the studio. I'm

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Speaker 13: certainly not going to be eating when I'm broadcasting fourteen years.

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01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 3: Oh what a beginner. Anyway, So he's eating pie and

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01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: dropping it all over the floor, and that had to

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01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 3: get vacuumed up, because if you think this place can

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01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: employs clean as over the weekend, you get another thing coming.

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Speaker 3: And then my other complaint, which was the sticky, disgusting

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,520
Speaker 3: little mess that was left in the rubbishment.

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Speaker 1: So Mike has our numbers.

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Speaker 6: But you did not to throw you under the bus there, Tyler.

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Speaker 6: But you did say.

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Speaker 23: Yesterday I'm going to leave the stinky old can of tuna.

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Speaker 23: You opened a can of tunia tuna, you emptied it

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Speaker 23: into the into my costkingspin, and you threw it in

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 23: the end, you said, And I thought, what was you word?

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Speaker 6: To suck on that husking? I think that's what you said.

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Speaker 13: I was assured by the bosses at ZB that there

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01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 13: would be night cleaners coming and clean up that.

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01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 3: Little did I know that night cleaner is actually my

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Speaker 3: Costkain exactly. And then if that wasn't bad enough, and

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Speaker 3: I get it, they're you know, they're trying to you know,

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Speaker 3: they're puffing their chest up and they're taking me on.

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 23: But then this, and I know he prides himself on it,

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Speaker 23: on his tidiness, and he has a vacuum cleaner here.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking over at this dice in here.

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Speaker 23: But when I get my kids to vacuum, right, I

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01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 23: say to them, it's not done until you put the

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Speaker 23: vacuum cleaner away. You can't vacuum and then just sit

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Speaker 23: on the couch and leave the vacuum kein out there.

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Speaker 23: What can you see over there, Tyler? That is a

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01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 23: vacuum cleaner that's out. It hasn't been put away.

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Speaker 13: The court hasn't even been retracted yet.

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Speaker 1: No, it's lavish.

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Speaker 23: It's all very well to be best in class, sitting

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Speaker 23: up the front, putting your hand up and saying, how

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Speaker 23: tighty you are great, appreciate the vacuum cleaning, but put

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Speaker 23: the vacuum cleaner away when you're finished.

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Speaker 3: What they don't understand, because they're thick, is that's an

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Speaker 3: early edition. First of all. It's an art installation, is

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Speaker 3: what I'm building up to. It's an art installation. It's

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Speaker 3: one of the early models of Dyson.

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Speaker 6: It's not used.

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Speaker 3: It's there to be looked at.

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Speaker 6: You hope they didn't try and use it. They probably did.

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Speaker 3: The proper vacuum. It's priceless, exactly. It's an original. It's

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01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 3: like an iPhone one. It's like the proper vacuum is

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01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 3: out in the producers area, hanging neatly and tidily on

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01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 3: its hook, the way it should be. So not only

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01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: don't they know that I've got a proper vacuum, they

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Speaker 3: looked at my spear vacuum, my art installation vacuum and

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 3: just poop poop that as well.

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Speaker 14: I think we need to look at where were they

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Speaker 14: when that art installation last week that got thrown away

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Speaker 14: because they thought it was rubbish?

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Speaker 3: Exactly we were, Matt and Tyler. Where were they exactly? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: So inauspicious start to the afternoon. Sigmuent I would argue,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I'm a patient man, so we'll see

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Speaker 3: how it goes. Back tomorrow morning from six as always,

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Speaker 3: Happy Days.

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