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Speaker 1: You're trust at Home for News for Its entertainment's opinion

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Speaker 1: and Mike the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate,

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Speaker 1: your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news togs,

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Speaker 1: d Be Jomingham, welcome today.

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Speaker 2: The health Minister and his ideas to meet targets. We've

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Speaker 2: got a new study that shows the kid's vaute. We've

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Speaker 2: got massive trouble, new numbers that show how much coal

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Speaker 2: we're burning to keep the lights on. Hamish Kerr who

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Speaker 2: jumps over bars really well stopped by for a word.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold does the States? Tim and Katie do the

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Speaker 2: week and we had to Australia with Kieran then building

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Speaker 2: asking welcome to Friday, seven past six. Question for you,

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Speaker 2: is it possible one of the great mistakes of the

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Speaker 2: modern era has been made around our cities these and

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Speaker 2: I think are increasing times or areas of life in

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Speaker 2: which the theory, the promise, the dream is not only

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Speaker 2: not coming to pass, but it's possible it never will.

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Speaker 2: See the EB industry globally as in a major state

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Speaker 2: of flux at the moment. Any number of large producers

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Speaker 2: have not only promised to stop selling engines, by twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty ish, they now rely well, they've now realized, of

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Speaker 2: course that's not real, so they've had to back track.

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Speaker 2: But they've also realized that all the money they didn't

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Speaker 2: spend on the next generation of engines has been lost

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Speaker 2: and they now have to fill the gap renewables. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about this this morning. They're in a similar place.

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Speaker 2: Larry Allison this week told investors AI is so crazy

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Speaker 2: when it comes to power consumption. There at Oracle now

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Speaker 2: building a data center that will be run by three

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Speaker 2: small nuclear reactors. Now the world largely doesn't have such

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Speaker 2: reactors right now, and it certainly doesn't have the renewable

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Speaker 2: capability to run such data centers. And then to downtown

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Reform of city centers was predicated on several theories. Essentially, essentially,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to save the planet while living like Europe.

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Speaker 2: What we've ended up with is Downtown Auckland, Downtown TOWERNGA,

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Speaker 2: Downtown Wellington, all, if not destroyed, certainly in a state

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Speaker 2: no one's proud of. As the bike lane's, bus lanes,

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Speaker 2: lack of parking is taking its toll. The businesses have closed,

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Speaker 2: the people have gone home, never to come back, The

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Speaker 2: mulls are popped up in suburbia and the CBD has

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Speaker 2: shot to pieces. We weren't like Europe. We aren't Europe

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Speaker 2: never will be. Do we live in an age where

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Speaker 2: the concept of the illusion of what could be, driven

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Speaker 2: by the bandwagon of the day, something the idea logs

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Speaker 2: leap on board with no real insight as to what

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Speaker 2: might actually be required for it to come to pass,

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Speaker 2: driven of course by good intention but appalling planning urged

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Speaker 2: on by NGOs and the like. You need a buzz

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Speaker 2: phrase or an agenda to keep them well, keep pushing

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Speaker 2: to maintain relevance of indeed not funding people who want

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Speaker 2: to be on the perceived right side of the hot

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Speaker 2: new trend. And it all comes at a huge cost

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Speaker 2: these downtown areas of tomorrow. Just when is tomorrow? When

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Speaker 2: is Wellington going to be the pedestrian magnet, the cobbled hub?

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Speaker 2: When does Auckland wear itself out with all the new

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Speaker 2: outlets opening in Queen Street. When does twong A cut

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Speaker 2: its umpteenth ribbon on the mecha that is the revitalized

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Speaker 2: CBD drawing fans from near and far. Or was it

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Speaker 2: simply a good picture on a whiteboard that will never

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Speaker 2: in fact happen.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: God truth this morning that if you get a shed

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Speaker 2: load of money and you already own some cars and

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Speaker 2: some houses, you can buy a good time in space.

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Speaker 3: Don't get hold we all have a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: Perfect world.

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Speaker 2: If you can't afford a spacewalk and you're still stuck

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Speaker 2: on Ryan here, you might have sympathy for the bloke

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Speaker 2: who runs it and the issues he's got with the

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Speaker 2: piss hits.

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Speaker 4: How do we stop these people engaging, you know, getting

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Speaker 4: drunk at airports, particularly when this as this summer, we've

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Speaker 4: had a huge spike up in air traffic control release.

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Speaker 4: They're getting on board with too much alcohol in their system.

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Speaker 4: If we identify them as being drunk on board, we

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Speaker 4: won't serve them alcohol.

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Speaker 2: While we're broadly in that part of the world, the

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Speaker 2: central bankers might be their second cash right cant But

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Speaker 2: we now have a question mark as to what comes next.

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Speaker 5: And yes, okay, there's a question mark around the growth

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Speaker 5: recovery in the Arizona. But actually what I think what

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Speaker 5: the mark is really really looking forward to now is

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Speaker 5: the course through to the end of the year, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's a little less a little less certain.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 2: And then, like Shane Ready parol Kia, he's got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of problems with the health system, but he has,

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Speaker 2: like Shane, a plan.

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Speaker 3: The ants may be in a critical condition.

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Speaker 6: But it's vital.

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Speaker 3: Science are strong, and we need to have the courage to.

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Speaker 2: Deliver long term reform, major surgery, not sticking clasters.

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Speaker 3: He's a genius, isn't he.

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Speaker 2: Shane is with us, by the way, After seven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: then an American Americas in the attorney generals come forth

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Speaker 2: with reassurances about the DOJ.

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Speaker 3: And the election.

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Speaker 7: There is not one rule for friends and another for foes,

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Speaker 7: one rule for the powerful and another for the powerless,

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Speaker 7: one rule for the rich and another for the poor.

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Speaker 7: One rule for Democrats and another for Republicans.

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Speaker 3: He isn't to Springfield, is he?

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Speaker 2: Now? Speaking of Springfield, Ohio? Nathan Clark's son was killed

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Speaker 2: in the road accident. Try to happen to be a

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Speaker 2: Haitian immigrant that turned sensationally political at the highest of liberlsism.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure hero were so. Once again, there's been the

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Speaker 2: simple plea.

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Speaker 8: My son, Aiden Clark, was not murdered. He was accidentally

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Speaker 8: killed by an immigrant from Haiti. This tragedy has felt

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Speaker 8: all over this community, the state, and even the nation.

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Speaker 8: But don't spin this towards hate and that.

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Speaker 3: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety quickly on the ECB, they led their growth

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Speaker 2: rate for that particular part of the world from zero

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Speaker 2: point nine to zero point eight. Are not committed to

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Speaker 2: a path forward, so they don't know where they're at

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Speaker 2: on that. Microsoft, by the way, in the world of

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Speaker 2: gaming Xbox, they're laying off six hundred and fifty jobs.

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Speaker 2: I thought Xbox was hot. Clearly not so. Six hundred

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Speaker 3: Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: ZIP speaking of Kieran his health system, big call from

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party. They've confirmed overnight that they will be

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Speaker 2: implementing a bang on junk food advertising. You will not

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Speaker 2: be able to advertise fish and chips, burgers, KFC or

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Speaker 2: any of the sort before nine o'clock at night as

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Speaker 2: of October of next year. So that's about childhood obesity.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it'll have major implications revenue wise for a

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Speaker 3: Six stream of speaks JMI.

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Speaker 2: Well Friday morning, Andrew Callah, good morning, very good morning, man.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk of indexes or in disease or so what

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Speaker 3: Lots of numbers, lots of numbers.

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Speaker 9: So look, it seems to me, Mike that central bankers

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Speaker 9: you're just talking about this all around the world are

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Speaker 9: read on inflation anywhere is important. So we only get

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Speaker 9: that full CPI print every three months, we get quarterly.

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Speaker 10: But now we do get these this partial data.

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Speaker 9: On a monthly basis in the form of what are

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Speaker 9: roughly forty five percent of the CPI basket, very much

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Speaker 9: sort of buyas towards the tradable inflation products, not the

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Speaker 9: we've had July we've had August, so we've got two

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Speaker 10: Partial data, so we're starting to get a reasonable picture.

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Speaker 9: If we look at August, food prices are up zero

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Speaker 9: no food inflation. And food is about twenty percent of

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Speaker 9: If you look at all of them, these prices rose

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Speaker 9: zero point three percent for the month. Now, the overall theme,

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Speaker 9: theme is one of an inflation path that continues to moderate.

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Speaker 9: They're forecasting now that inflation for the third quarter will

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Speaker 10: So that's what they've got to satisfying themselves on that.

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Speaker 9: But at the moment, conditions to me seem very consistent

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Speaker 10: They've got to get it.

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Speaker 2: Low exactly, and part of that mix, of course is

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Speaker 2: spending and generally speaking was still a bit flat.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, so inflation is moderating the total electronic card

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Speaker 9: really spending gratular money. For the month of August, total

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Speaker 9: electronic car transaction fell zero point two percent, then down

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Speaker 9: zero point nine percent year, and you remember they're not

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Speaker 10: Spending went up a little bit.

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Speaker 9: Retail spending increased zero point two, the core stuff zero

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Speaker 10: The total number brings in services and non.

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Speaker 9: Retail as well, but it's fair to say that household

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Speaker 9: spending as well. It's muted, it's subdued. You put your

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Speaker 9: own soggy adjective in there. August August actually also brought

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Speaker 9: July thirty one. That did put a little bit of

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Speaker 9: extra money in people's pockets, but we didn't really see it. Look,

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Speaker 9: durable spending picked up slightly, but it's still well below

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Speaker 9: the monthly levels we.

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Speaker 10: Saw back in twenty twenty two twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 9: Apparel picked up as well, but it's coming from very

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Speaker 9: weak levels. Hospitality spending was down, motor vehicle spending was down.

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Speaker 9: Still pretty good evidence that households continuing to prioritize spending. Look,

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Speaker 2: Well, today is your day. We have for you the

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Speaker 11: We're finished now, so there's not I can say it.

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Speaker 11: We always used to plan things to happen on these

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Speaker 10: Which nearly always did, which always did.

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Speaker 2: And here is the beauty of having worked together for

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Speaker 12: And you reach a point where if we're three on

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let him run with that, and then I'll

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Speaker 12: Oh James that's going to infuriate James, and I know

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Speaker 10: So there's a kind of short read each other.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you don't have to script it because it happens automatically.

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Speaker 6: It's like being married, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's well worth watching the whole video down on

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Speaker 2: By the way, my favorite stat and we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: It is beautiful days. It of.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I've got to stop making the kids breakfast and

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Speaker 2: How many bands have had a final final comeback? I

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I'll be surprised to take the bet.

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Speaker 2: I think we've seen this before, Mike, renewables are not

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Speaker 2: Of course they refer to him as the voice, and

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Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about it this way, but at the

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent correct, he was, of course the voice

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Speaker 2: of Darth Vade. Who wasn't the act of the actor

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Speaker 2: was a guy called David perhaps, not that you ever

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Speaker 2: knew that, because he was obviously in costume. Anyway, James L.

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Speaker 2: Jones to voice Darth Vader got paid guess what, seven

446
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Speaker 2: thousand bucks. He thought at the time it was a

447
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Speaker 2: fair price.

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Speaker 13: Sixteen two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace

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Speaker 13: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Richard, I are very good morning to you. What do you, Mike?

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Speaker 3: Very pretty pictures, were they?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: But before that, sixty seven million debate watches in this country,

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Speaker 12: So that's approaching Seinfeld finale numbers back in the day.

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Speaker 12: Because we don't know who were in that number of

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Speaker 12: how many cats and dogs were watching.

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 12: However, Yes, space history made today with the first all

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Speaker 12: civilian space walk. This was funded by a tech billionaire,

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Speaker 12: Jared Isaacman, who has declined to say but this space

461
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Speaker 12: tourism cost, but the mission on an Elon Musk SpaceX

462
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Speaker 12: capsule is likely to have talied into the hundreds of

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Speaker 12: millions of dollars. Isaacman went up as part of a

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Speaker 12: four person Polaris mission. The other three on board were

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Speaker 12: a retired Air Force colonel and two women, including a

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Speaker 12: SpaceX engineer, Sarah Gillis, who also went out on the spacewalk.

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Speaker 12: She left the spacecraft for about seven minutes. Isaac was

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Speaker 12: out there for ten. The space pod does not have

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Speaker 12: a pressurized airlocks, so all four had to wear their

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Speaker 12: trimmed down new spacesuits and all were exposed to vacuum

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Speaker 12: conditions and.

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Speaker 14: The hatch is open.

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Speaker 12: Before he left, Isaacman, who went into space once before,

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Speaker 12: said of his latest space jort.

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Speaker 8: And we're doing things that haven't been done in half

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Speaker 8: a century, and the idea hopefully as we learn a

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Speaker 8: lot from it.

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Speaker 12: Well, it has been a while since the last man

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Speaker 12: flight to this orbital altitude that was fourteen hundred kilometers

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Speaker 12: up from the Earth. Last time humans were up this

481
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Speaker 12: high was the last Apollo mission mission in nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 12: We're talking three times higher than the International Space Station.

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Speaker 12: The Dragon capsule now has been repressurized. Leak tests have

484
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Speaker 12: been done before they resumed normal operations, But when they

485
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Speaker 12: went back into the capsule, the returning SpaceX engineer Sarah

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Speaker 12: Gillis said she could see bulges on the hatch. Wouldn't

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Speaker 12: worry about that, said her colleagues on the ground, Just

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Speaker 12: you know, push them back in there. Meantime, if others

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Speaker 12: out there have several hundred million dollars for a seven

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Speaker 12: minute spacewalk, just messages you know at elon Musk.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, so kel. How about are the fires?

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Speaker 12: Oh gosh, the mountain areas around Los Angeles are being

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Speaker 12: hit by the worst bushfires we've had in years and years.

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Speaker 12: Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated, including a

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Speaker 12: number of my friends. The first fire that erupted is

496
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Speaker 12: only eighteen percent contained at the minute. They have thirty

497
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Speaker 12: one hundred firefighters attacking on that line, twenty one helicopters

498
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Speaker 12: dropping water and fire retardant on the flames there. So

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Speaker 12: far it is proving extremely difficult to make much progress

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Speaker 12: because the weather has been very, very hot and windy.

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Speaker 12: Dozens of homes have been lost, thirteen people injured, says

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Speaker 12: one evacuee. Of the circumstances there.

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Speaker 3: We packed up the kids and got out of there.

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Speaker 3: Not a couple hours later we heard our house. It's

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Speaker 3: just leveled.

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Speaker 10: Horrible.

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Speaker 12: These are areas where I go hiking as well.

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Speaker 1: It is just so distressing.

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Speaker 12: The groundcoverers can grow back in maybe two or three years,

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Speaker 12: the trees maybe twenty years, maybe never for some species.

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Speaker 3: As one man, I'm angry, I'm set, yeah, b too,

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Speaker 3: really distraught over this.

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Speaker 12: The biggest flower was arson. It was begun they say,

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Speaker 12: by a thirty four year old man, justin Holstenberg. We

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Speaker 12: don't know yet how they track down this suspect. The

516
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Speaker 12: man is being held on eighty thousand dollars bail. To

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Speaker 12: my mind, that is simply not enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but good week.

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Speaker 2: He Richard Arnold stateside just before we leave there by

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Speaker 2: the way, the California Attorney General, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a thing. Guy called Bonta. Doesn't really matter. It was anyway,

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Speaker 2: cautioned executives. That's a big tech you know, the usual suspects.

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Speaker 2: He wrote to Alphabet Meta, Microsoft, OpenAI, read it TikTok

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Speaker 2: x YouTube. Basically, it came out of Taylor Swift, who

525
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Speaker 2: was busy criticizing the AI generated thing that the Trump

526
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Speaker 2: camp ran that suggested she was somehow endorsing him. So

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Speaker 2: he's quoting sections of California law that prohibit interference with

528
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Speaker 2: voting rights by misleading people about voting place and time

529
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Speaker 2: and using intimidate tactics all that sort. So basically he's

530
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Speaker 2: yet again reminding big tech to try and behave themselves. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: there are forty two state attorneys general who want a

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Speaker 2: Surgeon general warning on social media apps. And this came

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Speaker 2: the Surgeon General himself wrote a scathing op ed in

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Speaker 2: The New York Times back in June. Dura drew a

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Speaker 2: direct comparison between the apps to cancer causing cigarettes. Twenty

536
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Speaker 2: nineteen American Medical Association studies showed teens who spent three

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Speaker 2: hours a day on social media double their risk of depression.

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Speaker 2: So all of these attorneys general, of course it's bipartisan,

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Speaker 2: have all written they say they want some sort of

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Speaker 2: warning on because such as the danger and then we

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Speaker 2: come and let me come back to it in just

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. This weird business, or is it

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Speaker 2: of Springfield eleven Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Veda Retirement Communities News.

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Speaker 2: Tom said, be no, it's away from seven to Urik

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Speaker 2: Hiller is the other one in America who made news

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Speaker 2: this weekend. Dolphins, Miami Dolphins. Of course in the NFL

548
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Speaker 2: they play the Bills today. Funnily enough, anyway, he got

549
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Speaker 2: pulled out of his car. He has some regrets, so

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Speaker 2: we've got the full detail here what happened, and this

551
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Speaker 2: is the body cam thing. The best point he made

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Speaker 2: was one that his regret as he didn't wind down

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Speaker 2: the window. They pulled him over, They said open your window.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do it, so that's on him. So they

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Speaker 2: then opened his door and dragged him out in the

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Speaker 2: rest's history. What he couldn't believe, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: anyone can in America, is how these guys keep pulling

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Speaker 2: guys out of cars, then sitting on them while filming them,

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Speaker 2: and knowing they are filming, knowing.

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Speaker 3: That this was going to blow up.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, he's called and his lawyers have called for

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Speaker 2: the individual to be sacked, so we'll see whether that happens.

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Speaker 2: Just back to Springfield, Ohio. Here's what's wrong with one

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Speaker 2: the nutters, but two also the mainstream media. So obviously

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Speaker 2: there are no cats and dogs being eaten by Haitians, right,

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Speaker 2: But where that started was twofold. The main one was

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Speaker 2: there was a woman who was found with a cat.

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Speaker 2: Now the mainstream media covered that yesterday, but they stopped

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Speaker 2: the story when they said she wasn't Haitian. She still

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Speaker 2: had a cat. So that's where a story comes from.

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Speaker 2: Second part, Springfield has a population of fifty six and

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Speaker 2: this is where the base of the story starts. So

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Speaker 2: you start with a true story and then it explodes

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Speaker 2: out to the weird world of the nutjobs. Springfield has

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Speaker 2: a population, who knew, of fifty six to fifty seven

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Speaker 2: thousand people. It's a tiny place. There are fifteen thousand

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Speaker 2: new arrivals from Haiti, so the population suddenly exponentially has

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Speaker 2: exploded with Haitians. Now everyone seems to agree that that's

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Speaker 2: not good for the community. It puts stress on resources.

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Speaker 2: There's nowhere for them to go, and a small town

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Speaker 2: of fifty six to fifty seven thousand people with suddenly

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Speaker 2: fifteen thousand arriving. It's not Los Angeles, it's not New York.

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Speaker 2: It's Springfield. Fifty six to fifty seven thousand people suddenly

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Speaker 2: got fifteen thousand Haitians arriving. What else is going to happen?

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Speaker 2: But angst and upset from the answer. So that's a

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Speaker 2: genuine problem and a genuine story, and that's part of

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Speaker 2: the immigration story in America, and that's why it is

588
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Speaker 2: the number one issue during the election campaign. So that's real.

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Speaker 2: Then enter the nutters who then talk about the dogs

590
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Speaker 2: and the cats, and there was some video of some

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Speaker 2: weirdos saying there were ducks being pulled out of the

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Speaker 2: pond and the park and all, and then it goes nuts.

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Speaker 2: But at its essence, as is so often the case,

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Speaker 2: is actually a real problem that once the nutters get

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Speaker 2: hold of it is never really addressed.

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Speaker 3: And then that is the shame.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs, it's the fizz with business favor.

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Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Right, set jetting, no, not jet setting. Set jetting biggest

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Speaker 2: travel trend at the moment. Apparently it's going on holiday

602
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Speaker 2: to visit famous landmarks and sets and backdrops for TV shows.

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Speaker 2: Very big impact in European tourism in the UK. Last year,

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Speaker 2: London estimated to have brought in over twenty six million

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Speaker 2: dollars through various TV tours, which include the Pile Row

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Speaker 2: Tour of London by Black Cab, You've got The Killing

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Speaker 2: of your Self guided audio too, You've got the ted

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Speaker 2: Lasso Tour of Richmond.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: One of the biggest places to see an increase Draighton

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Speaker 2: House in Northamptonshire. What was Drayton House in Saltburn? And

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Speaker 2: since that movie's release, visitor numbers are up six hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: It's also been revealed seventy percent of UK tourists have

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Speaker 2: gone on a trip in the last decade to visit

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Speaker 2: a film location or TV set, seventy percent Outside of

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Speaker 2: the UK. Nothing's bigger than Game of Thrones. There are

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Speaker 2: more than one hundred and seven themed Game of Thrones

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Speaker 2: tours in Europe generated about one hundred million dollars in revenue.

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Speaker 2: Dubrovnik easily benefited the most tours based on the show,

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Speaker 2: contributed ninety eight point eight percent of the country's total

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Speaker 2: income from TV tourism. They then did a top six

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Speaker 2: list of the most influential shows as far as TV

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Speaker 2: slash film tourism goes. They are let's as always start

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Speaker 2: at sex because we don't want to give away the

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Speaker 2: big one peaky bind us. Who would have called that?

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Speaker 2: If I said to you, what's the sixth biggest TV two?

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Speaker 2: Who would have gone peaky blindness?

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Speaker 3: No One. Bridgeton is Bridgeston?

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Speaker 2: About the set? I don't even know that I'd recognize

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Speaker 2: the set of bridget and Emily in Paris. I assume

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Speaker 2: it's in Paris, down to aavy for obvious reasons. Beautiful house, Outlander,

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Speaker 2: Scottish Islands. And of course number one is a Game

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Speaker 2: of Thrones.

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Speaker 15: I remember Hobbiton doesn't get on there anywhere, hobbit No,

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Speaker 15: this is in uk ah okay.

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Speaker 2: Because they said what was the number they said for

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Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings. It was some ridiculous number that

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Speaker 2: came to this country based in some way, shape or

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Speaker 2: form on this Middle Earth idea.

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Speaker 3: So it does work.

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Speaker 2: It is really right Shane Retty, how close to fixing

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Speaker 2: the health system is he? We'll ask him directly after

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Speaker 2: the news, which is next.

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Speaker 3: The breakfast show?

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Speaker 1: You can trust the mic Hosking breakfast with the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: f base cut from a different clath News togs EDB seven.

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Speaker 2: So the Health Minister filled in the blanks yesterday as

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Speaker 2: to how he's going to deliver the targets he set

649
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Speaker 2: out for the system back in March. More workers Bad's

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Speaker 2: theaters are on the way. Community and fusion centers are

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Speaker 2: also planned, allowing chemotherapy to take place closer to home.

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Speaker 2: Shane Retty is with this a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Now, good mind, Mike good.

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Speaker 3: A couple of.

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Speaker 2: Things in the news this morning. The GP Owners' Association

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Speaker 2: are going to the ComCom They're arguing Health New Zealand

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Speaker 2: dictates contracts. Do they have a case do you reckon

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Speaker 2: or not? Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I missed with them yesterday and we chatted about this. Look,

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Speaker 14: the Commerce Commission will determine that that this has been

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Speaker 14: standard policy for a number of years. Is nothing new

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Speaker 14: to happen. Negotiating around this year has happened, So we'll

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Speaker 14: see what the Commerce Commission makes of it. Well, I

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Speaker 14: won't sort of interfere in that process, but we had

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Speaker 14: a good discussion around that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Is there any way around it? I mean that the

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Speaker 2: public health. It's where there is no competition. You hand

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Speaker 2: out the money. The money is the money, isn't it.

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Speaker 14: There is competition the marketplace. People choose who they want

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Speaker 14: to have a general practitioner, and there are other alternative

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Speaker 14: models to general practice. So there is a market for

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Speaker 14: primary care. But the issue here is whether the contracting

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Speaker 14: has effectively been in good faith or they're fundamentally told

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Speaker 14: this is what it is, and so that's what they're

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Speaker 14: taking to Commerce Commission.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that concerned me this week was the Indian

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Speaker 2: High Commission in Wellington who was warning nurses about coming

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand and they shouldn't unless they've got a

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Speaker 2: genuine job offer. And this debtails into more staff. How

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Speaker 2: is it there issuing warnings when we need nurses but

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Speaker 2: we're not hiring nurses and we're inundated with people from

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Speaker 2: overseas who can't.

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Speaker 3: Get a job.

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Speaker 14: Look, that's partly true, and I did see this well,

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Speaker 14: but let's also remember we've got New Zealand graduates who

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Speaker 14: are still looking to find places. And I would make

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Speaker 14: the case that we do need to find a place

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Speaker 14: for our domestic pipeline, and so what we're seeing in

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Speaker 14: discussions we're having and I've been having with Nursing Council,

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Speaker 14: is the number of internationally qualified nurse application to fallen

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Speaker 14: away significantly, And so the High Commissioner has indicated to them, look,

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Speaker 14: you need to know you need to have a job offer,

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Speaker 14: got out a surety before you go through the process

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Speaker 14: and you leave home and come and do the oski

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Speaker 14: and all the things you need to do and make

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Speaker 14: sure you do have a job offer. But I would

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Speaker 14: say I am committed to making sure our graduates are

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Speaker 14: able to find a place high priority.

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Speaker 2: One of the things you said yesterday which surprised me,

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Speaker 2: is you're going to have discharge seven days a week?

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Speaker 2: Is health not seven days a week?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I know it's a surprise, isn't it. That's correct

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Speaker 14: that there are some places where they don't do seven

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Speaker 14: day discharge. So imagine this. Let's say you've got an abcess.

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Speaker 14: For example, you're getting an intravenous push of antibiotics and

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Speaker 14: you need one more on the set on Saturday. If

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Speaker 14: you're not in a dischargeable facility that can discharge on

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Speaker 14: the Saturday Saturday, you may wait for the ward round

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Speaker 14: on Monday to be discharged makes no sense time.

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Speaker 3: No, it does not.

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Speaker 2: Takatai tash Camp who I watched in the Parliament yesterday

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Speaker 2: with the stories of whiteboards and privacy and hallways, how

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Speaker 2: real is that?

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Speaker 16: Sorry?

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Speaker 14: Did you say wait?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 2: You were there, she was asking you questions in the

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Speaker 2: house that she's in the corridors, she's been covered by

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Speaker 2: white boards for privacy. Is that real or not?

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Speaker 14: I haven't seen the covering by whiteboards, but I have

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Speaker 14: seen people in corridors that is correct. And emergency departments

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Speaker 14: particularly some of those that don't have obviously don't have

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Speaker 14: enough bears or there is bed block up on the wards.

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Speaker 14: So yes, as I said to her in the house,

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Speaker 14: actually I have seen that as well.

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Speaker 3: And does that get fixed?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, several things like for example the seven day discharge.

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Speaker 14: If you can discharge a person from a warpbed, then

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Speaker 14: you can move someone from ed up into that wardbed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just for clarification, when the Prime Minister says thirty

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Speaker 2: billion ish in what we spend on health, is enough?

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Speaker 10: Is it?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 14: So this is what the commissioner has said as well.

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Speaker 14: Having the prime leaders to actually figure out what we

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Speaker 14: spend and where we spend it. Look, it will never

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Speaker 14: be enough. No country has enough in health. That's the

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Speaker 14: nature of things. But for the objectives that we have

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Speaker 14: and the task that we have in the fiscal conser

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Speaker 14: straints that we have, as you've heard the Commissioner say,

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Speaker 14: there was enough for us to deliver a high quality service.

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Speaker 14: We would always want to do more. Everyone wants to

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Speaker 14: do more, but deliver a high quality service. The funding

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Speaker 14: is the highest funding we've had ever in health. Actually,

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Speaker 14: I wish.

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Speaker 2: You a good weekend, appreciate your time. As alway, Shane Rettick,

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Speaker 2: who's the Health Minister, eleven past seven pascaling related new

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Speaker 2: research out of Australia on the links between vaping as

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Speaker 2: a teenager and going on to be a smoker. Survey

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Speaker 2: of more than fiveenty twelve to seventeen year olds, if

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Speaker 2: you vape, your five times more likely to end up smoking.

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Speaker 2: First of its kind study in Australia, says your professor,

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Speaker 2: Becky Freeman, study supervisor at the University of Sydney is

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Speaker 2: with us. Becky morning, good morning.

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Speaker 3: I seen years ago.

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Speaker 2: That replacing vaping or tobacco with vaping was going to

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Speaker 2: lead to this, and I'm no genius. Why didn't more

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Speaker 2: people see it.

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Speaker 17: You know, I think that people were just overly focused

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Speaker 17: on that this was going to be some sort of

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Speaker 17: you know, miracle cure for people who were smokers to

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Speaker 17: switch to vaping and didn't consider that these products would

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Speaker 17: be marketed to kids, come and flavors that appeal to kids,

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Speaker 17: and be so widely available and easily accessible.

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Speaker 2: Do you still subscribe in any way, shape or form

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Speaker 2: to the sociation tool argument or not?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 17: Look, I think there should be a pathway for that

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Speaker 17: very small number of smokers who've tried everything they can

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Speaker 17: to quit and under the care and support of a

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Speaker 17: health professional, can use these products to fully quit. But

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Speaker 17: that does not mean they should be available in you know,

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Speaker 17: lolly flavors and sold that petrol stations to twelve year old.

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Speaker 2: And the number of kids who do it recreationally as

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Speaker 2: a percentage, do we have any idea?

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Speaker 17: Look, young kids are not are not quitting smoking. You know,

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Speaker 17: when you're fourteen years old and you see a product

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Speaker 17: on a shelf that comes in a unicorn sparkly package

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Speaker 17: and is sold in apple mint flavor, you're not using

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Speaker 17: that to quit smoking. You're using that because you're curious

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Speaker 17: and the industry has targeted you, indeed, and.

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Speaker 2: We looked to Australia from New Zealand they were going

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Speaker 2: to crack down on this with some rules and they

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Speaker 2: backed out of this. Has this been a disappointment and

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Speaker 2: that will long term cause more problems, do you think

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 17: Well, what we have in Australia now is all e

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Speaker 17: cigarettes must be sold in pharmacies from behind the counter.

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Speaker 17: So we had been pushing for a prescription only system

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Speaker 17: from pharmacies that you had to have a prescription from

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Speaker 17: a doctor. That did get watered down to now you

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Speaker 17: can just purchase it from behind the counter. So it

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Speaker 17: is a bit disappointing, but we are very grateful that

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Speaker 17: they will no longer be so available to kids. And

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Speaker 17: of course the vapes and pharmacies are only going to

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Speaker 17: come in tobacco and mint flavor. They're no longer these

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Speaker 17: disposable products that were so cheap and so readily available

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Speaker 17: to kids. So it's an entirely different product and approach.

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Speaker 2: Becky, appreciate you getting up early in Australia for us.

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Speaker 2: Becky Freeman, University of Sydney's supervisor, thirteen minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: Osky the problems we could see coming in, yet we

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Speaker 2: did nothing about it. That reference to the India if

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Speaker 2: you missed that story, by the way, it should have

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Speaker 2: got more coverage. But India, the High Commission here was

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Speaker 2: warning nurses because I remember a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 2: I started asking questions around this. They had a job fear.

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Speaker 2: I think it was an auckland and hundreds literally hundreds

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Speaker 2: of nurses unemployed turned up looking for work. And you

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Speaker 2: think yourself, how the hell did they get into the country.

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Speaker 2: And they got into the country by a visa. Because

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Speaker 2: you go in India or wherever you happen to be

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Speaker 2: and you go, well, why are they looking for a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand job wise? Oh, nurses terrific. I'll apply for

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Speaker 2: a visa. Sure enough, you get a visa, you turn up,

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Speaker 2: you look for the jobs. There are none because no

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Speaker 2: one's hiring. How does that work? Number of Indian nurses

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Speaker 2: are facing difficulties in securing jobs, no kidding, even though

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Speaker 2: they may have successfully completed the competency Assessment program, the

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Speaker 2: CAP and registration with the New Zealand Nursing Council. It's

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Speaker 2: also advisable, says the Commission, to get the genuineness of

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Speaker 2: the employer checked by the High Commission.

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Speaker 3: That's reputational. I would have thought.

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Speaker 2: Also warn nurses to refrain from paying agents who promise

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Speaker 2: guaranteed jobs. Indian nurses and their spouses are requested not

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Speaker 2: to leave their current jobs until the job process with

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Speaker 2: the prospective employer in New Zealand has been formalized. How

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Speaker 2: bad does that make us look?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: studio for you shortly now seventeen Part seven. Good news,

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Speaker 2: Amazon MGM are coming to make some movies. The Ricking

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Speaker 2: Ball is what it's called. It's got Jason Mama Da

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Speaker 2: Batista teams and fourteen hundred jobs are expected the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Film Commission ahead of International Attraction of Marketing. Philippa

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Speaker 2: Mossman is with us on this Philip Morning.

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Speaker 18: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: This feels a bit but it feels a bit funny

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Speaker 2: to me because I've been around long enough to remember

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Speaker 2: the day when we did this every second Tuesday in

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Speaker 2: Wellington and it was the greatest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: What the hell has happened to the film industry that

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Speaker 2: this is suddenly news.

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Speaker 18: Look, this is a big deal. We've been very busy

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Speaker 18: in recent years. We've got lots of productions that we

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Speaker 18: can talk to I can talk to you about this morning.

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Speaker 18: But it's a really big deal when any international production

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Speaker 18: has secured for New Zealand. You know, it's a big

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Speaker 18: spinner and a bit of employer and it's celebrated.

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Speaker 3: Oh couldn't agree more and I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: Have we have we fallen off the radar a bit

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Speaker 2: with COVID and strikes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 18: No, I not really look the stripe the US stripes

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Speaker 18: were really problematic everywhere in the world. For obviously entirely shutdown.

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Speaker 18: But you know, working through that long winter, we rebounded

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Speaker 18: pretty quickly New Zealand and we're currently very buoyant. We've

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Speaker 18: had productions here in the last couple of years from Disney,

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Speaker 18: twentieth Century, Warners, lines Gate, you know, the list goes

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Speaker 18: Non Paramount TV here at Warrington, Blumouse, Warners, Netflix, Apple TV.

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Speaker 18: You know, lots of production has been going on.

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Speaker 3: The text deals still work for.

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Speaker 18: Us, the incentives yet this is a cash rebait. They do. Look,

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Speaker 18: when you think about this international production, from the studios perspective,

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Speaker 18: from the international executives perspective, before they greet any movie

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Speaker 18: or TV shows green, they're figuring out all the essential elements,

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Speaker 18: you know, the riot of the director, of the cast,

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Speaker 18: the budget, where are we going to shoot? And people

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Speaker 18: probably know it's in decades and Hollywood movies were shot

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Speaker 18: mostly in Hollywood, and the reason for that is because

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Speaker 18: other countries offer incentives. Fifteen years ago, the studio would

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Speaker 18: budget a couple of places in the US and maybe

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Speaker 18: can that. And now when they're thinking where in the

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Speaker 18: they might look at fifteen ten ateen different places. So

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Speaker 18: For over one hundred places in the world offering incentives programs,

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Speaker 18: You know, I spent on humans, on jobs and on businesses.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I'm very exciting, still going well, Philip, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Philip A. Mossman who's with the New Zealand Film Commission.

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Speaker 2: The media covered the one hundred thousand people on the

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Speaker 2: suddenly seemingly out of no where, we had the sort

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Speaker 2: of the best high jumper in the world. He was

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Speaker 2: going to be competing this weekend in Belgium apparently, but

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Speaker 2: he said, no, bugger, I need to come and see Mike.

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Speaker 3: So he has and he's with us.

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Speaker 2: Very very good morning to you, the boy Mite. I'm

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Speaker 2: very well and congratulations too on all that's happened to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm endlessly and I suspect most people are endlessly fascinated

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Speaker 2: by the high jump, because we all did.

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Speaker 3: It at school sports.

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Speaker 2: And we started out with the scissors, didn't we, And

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Speaker 2: then at some point we realized there was no going

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Speaker 2: any further for us. But you presumably went nut, I

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Speaker 2: can do more.

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Speaker 19: I'm definitely the primary school kid who just kept on going.

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Speaker 2: And here was it an attraction to you as a sport.

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Speaker 19: Not really, you know. I did athletics at a club

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Speaker 19: at a young age, and high jump was always the

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Speaker 19: event that I was best at, for sure. But I

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Speaker 19: think the thing for me was that every year I

1014
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Speaker 19: just got a little bit more serious as I wanted

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Speaker 19: to jump higher. So every year I was said, like, okay,

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Speaker 19: I'm going to jump a new personal best and jump

1017
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Speaker 19: ten centimes high this year, and to do that, I

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Speaker 19: kind of just had to be a little bit more

1019
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Speaker 19: serious about it. So I think over the years I've

1020
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Speaker 19: sort of just slowly gotten more and more into it,

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Speaker 19: and then and then obviously the last few years I've

1022
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Speaker 19: been pretty serious.

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Speaker 2: But I can't remember the name of the term. So

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Speaker 2: do you start with the scissors? What's the one where

1025
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Speaker 2: you roll forward over?

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Speaker 19: That would be called the western.

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Speaker 3: Role, the western roll.

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Speaker 2: So occasionally we got into the Western role because the

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Speaker 2: height was too high for the scissors.

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Speaker 19: How to showing your age, mate?

1031
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Speaker 2: How do you transfer? At what point is day one

1032
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Speaker 2: of the Fosbury Flop?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

1034
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Speaker 19: It depends on a lot of things, Like I think

1035
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Speaker 19: that we all try to do it at some point

1036
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Speaker 19: when we were really young and don't really do it properly.

1037
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Speaker 19: But for me, it was when I was about eleven.

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Speaker 19: I went down to my local athletics club and signed

1039
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Speaker 19: up and there was a coach there who was able

1040
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Speaker 19: to help me do the technique properly and ever since then,

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Speaker 19: that's the main.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember your first one? I?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I do. Actually I was in year four. It

1044
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Speaker 19: was actually in the school hall at Mongofo Primary School

1045
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Speaker 19: and I went over two meters sorry too, I went

1046
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Speaker 19: over one meter ten and hit my nose against my

1047
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Speaker 19: knee as I was falling over and I got a

1048
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Speaker 19: blood nose and I cried. I cried, and that was

1049
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Speaker 19: my first experience of high.

1050
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Speaker 2: Jump and next stop a gold medal at the Olympics.

1051
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Speaker 2: It's not fair at ay. So how professional is the

1052
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Speaker 2: sport in terms of a living that you can make,

1053
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Speaker 2: a tour that you can participate in.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's I mean, look, it's definitely a hard grind,

1055
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Speaker 19: that's for sure. You don't you don't get into track

1056
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Speaker 19: and field thinking that you're going to make millions. But

1057
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Speaker 19: at the same time, when you do sort of start

1058
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Speaker 19: getting up into the top ranks, there are opportunities. We

1059
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Speaker 19: obviously earned quite a lot of prize money, you know,

1060
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Speaker 19: private sponsorship, overseas sponsorship, and then also government funding. So yeah,

1061
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Speaker 19: we sort of juggle a few different income streams to

1062
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Speaker 19: make games meets.

1063
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Speaker 3: Where is it big globally?

1064
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Speaker 19: It's big in Europe, so that's where we do most

1065
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Speaker 19: of our competing for high jump, particularly it's quite big

1066
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Speaker 19: in Germany and actually through Eastern Europe. I sort of

1067
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Speaker 19: spend quite a bit of time in the Czech Republic

1068
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Speaker 19: and Slovaki year and various little places like that, So

1069
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Speaker 19: it's yeah, it's it's it's definitely takes you to some

1070
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Speaker 19: interesting places. But there's some people are pretty keen on it.

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Speaker 2: You're a tall guy, Is that a prerequisite?

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Speaker 19: Not really, Like I wouldn't say that there's any short

1073
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Speaker 19: high jumpers, Like if you're sort of under six foot,

1074
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Speaker 19: you'll probably probably need to go find another event to

1075
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Speaker 19: be good at. But yeah, I would definitely be one

1076
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Speaker 19: of the taller guys. What are your six what I'm

1077
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Speaker 19: six sex? What are your weigh I'm about eighty Well

1078
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Speaker 19: at the Olympics I was about eighty two.

1079
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Speaker 3: Is that about right?

1080
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Speaker 19: So yeah, I mean, look, it's it's always a constant debate, right,

1081
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Speaker 19: Like I'm one of the heavier high jumpers for sure.

1082
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 19: A lot of the other guys would be. You know,

1083
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Speaker 19: there's a guy that I'm really good friends with, the

1084
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Speaker 19: Korean who's he'd be probably a couple of centimeters shorter

1085
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Speaker 19: than me, so maybe one ninety five and weighs sixty

1086
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Speaker 19: seven kgs. So yeah, that's my way. There's some very

1087
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Speaker 19: different athletes out there. But I think for me, you know,

1088
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Speaker 19: the body that I have really works for my technique.

1089
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: So what is it? You need?

1090
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Speaker 2: My way of power? So if you're if you're slight,

1091
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Speaker 2: how do you generate the power through your legs to

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Speaker 2: get up?

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Speaker 19: So if you're really slight, so if you're like a

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Speaker 19: sixty seven kg Gunda guy, you have to run really

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Speaker 19: fast and in order to you know, to generate that

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Speaker 19: speed and then converted into upwards momentum. Whereas someone like

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Speaker 19: me being a little bit heavier, I use my strength,

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Speaker 19: so I don't run quite as fast, but when I

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Speaker 19: come into take off, that's when I really generate a

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Speaker 19: lot of power.

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Speaker 2: Where's the magic at the takeoff point? So I became

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Speaker 2: mismerized by this. At the takeoff point, you're up and

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Speaker 2: it's all timing at that point. It's not necessarily it's

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Speaker 2: the timing when you go back arch, flick your legs.

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Speaker 2: That's that's everything, isn't it.

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Speaker 19: It is everything once it gets to there. But I

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Speaker 19: would say the most important thing for me is actually

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Speaker 19: the curve.

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Speaker 3: So that's sort of the as you run it.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's about the third stride to the last stride,

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Speaker 19: which is my seventh stride.

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Speaker 3: Do you know where?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do know, Yeah, and that's why some of

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Speaker 2: them pull out and just run underneath or yeah, it

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00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: doesn't even look like it's going to happen.

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Speaker 19: Yeah yeah, I mean you don't. You don't want to

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Speaker 19: get into the habit of pulling out of jumps. And

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Speaker 19: it's not something that we probably do all the time,

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Speaker 19: but it's definitely you know, you can put your foot

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Speaker 19: down and and kind of suspect that you're going to

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Speaker 19: have to try and really do something in the air,

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Speaker 19: but you can also you can chuck your foot down,

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Speaker 19: and I did in the final put my foot down

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Speaker 19: and just go, yep, we're in the right place.

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Speaker 2: Does it when you're when you're over the back backwards

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00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: arching about to kick, does it feel right?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean that part of the jump is probably

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Speaker 19: the most standardized. Like it's it's not something that we

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00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 19: really react to or anything. It's not like we feel

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Speaker 19: like we're over the bar and then and then cuck

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00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 19: our legs. It's just part of the timing.

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Speaker 2: Of Wow, that's amazing, isn't it. Has it changed dramatically

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Speaker 2: since you've been doing it in any way?

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Speaker 19: Not really? And I think it's funny. Actually, I came

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00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 19: into the sport, or sort of grew up in the

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Speaker 19: sport where there was a lot of guys jumping two

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00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 19: meters forty, And since I've actually come into it, no

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00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 19: one's jumped to forty for about ten years now. Yeah,

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00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 19: So so you could say or something, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 19: I you know, I want to expect, you know, I

1143
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Speaker 19: suspect the best for those guys. But there was this

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Speaker 19: time where there was just some amazing jumpers, and I

1145
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 19: think now is the time to really sort of cack

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Speaker 19: on again.

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Speaker 2: And so we're a peak human. Do you reckon? What's

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00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: what's the top number? What's your best?

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00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 19: So my best is two thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Which is the interesting thing. You don't you can win

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00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: a gold not necessarily jumping too third. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to jump too thirty six to win a gold because

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Speaker 2: it was an attrition thing at the Games, which I

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00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: find fascinating. So you keep going basically until the other

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00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: guy falls over and can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a brutal sport, that's

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00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 19: for sure. I mean, you can you can be absolutely

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Speaker 19: dominating the start of the competition and clearing all the

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00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 19: bars first attempt and just looking like your mar's over.

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00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 19: But ultimately it's it's the last jump that counts, and

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00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 19: that's the That's the scary thing is you know, you

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Speaker 19: do all this power work and then two three hours later,

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Speaker 19: how do you how to kind of get up for it?

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00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: It's two thirty six it or ish for anybody and

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Speaker 2: we peak human sober.

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Speaker 19: So the world record is two forty five, which was

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Speaker 19: done about twenty five years ago now, so.

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Speaker 3: There's something about it that's suspiciously.

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Speaker 19: It's quite a Yeah, it's quite a big record, but

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Speaker 19: I think I think that it's possible, like it's definitely

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Speaker 19: going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Some What would you need to do?

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Speaker 11: For me?

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Speaker 19: It's just about getting stronger and faster, and that's something

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Speaker 19: that we really worked on this year, probably the most

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00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 19: we've done of that in my whole career, and that's

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Speaker 19: why I've done so well. And so I think that,

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Speaker 19: you know, if I have another four years of that,

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Speaker 19: then there's no reason why I wouldn't be getting better.

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Speaker 3: Age. Where does that put them?

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00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 19: Yeah, well I'm not getting younger, that's for sure.

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Speaker 16: Correct.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think for me so I'm twenty eight now

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00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 19: thirty two would probably be probably be it the back

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Speaker 19: for me, not the back. A lot of guys have

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Speaker 19: back of shoes for mancy ankle. We put about ten

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00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 19: times our body weight through our ankle when we take off,

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Speaker 19: so you can imagine that that it does take a

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 19: wee bit of a beating shoes.

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Speaker 2: So are you carrying injuries at any given time or

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00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: you're pretty clean?

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Speaker 19: I mean define injuries right like I think stuff that hurts.

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Speaker 19: I think I think that every athlete goes into major

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Speaker 19: events with stuff that hurts. And that's something that we

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Speaker 19: we deal with constantly. And the way I kind of

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Speaker 19: look at it is if you you know, if you're

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Speaker 19: if you're not hurting, you probably haven't trained hard enough.

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Speaker 3: Good on you. I like the attitude.

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Speaker 2: Most important questionable why do you wear baggy shorts when

1202
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: you're going over the back and it's so tight. Why

1203
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: are the baggy shorts there?

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Speaker 19: I have never had a bar come down because shorts,

1205
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 19: and I have never seen it happen. So the time

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Speaker 19: it does happen, I will, I will, I will come

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Speaker 19: back to you and I will say I don't like it,

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Speaker 19: but yeah, that's definitely. For me, it's honest, you're.

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Speaker 3: Good on you.

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Speaker 2: Are you living your dream?

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Speaker 19: Yes, absolutely, it's it's been a whirlwind and I'm just

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Speaker 19: so so grateful for the opportunities that gives.

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Speaker 2: Me, and of course for the country. It's fantastic because

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Speaker 2: when kids see because as I see it, all everyone's

1215
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: done school sports. They didn't do high jump well, generally,

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00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: didn't do the shot put well. Most of us had

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Speaker 2: to crack at.

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Speaker 3: The long jump.

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00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 2: A bit of running was good. When they see you,

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00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: they see anything's possible, presumably.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, and I think I think that's my kind of messages.

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Speaker 19: As for me, I didn't have anyone to look up to.

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Speaker 19: You know, the first time I jumped to thirty was

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Speaker 19: was or the first time I experienced anyone jumping too

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Speaker 19: thirty was me jumping it. The first time I held

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Speaker 19: an Olympic gold medal, it was my medal. And so

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Speaker 19: you know, just go out there and strive your own

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Speaker 19: own you know what, have your dreamers, go and go

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Speaker 19: and find that path.

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Speaker 3: And just go for it.

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Speaker 2: Terrific to meet you, mate, Go well, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you you in La Yes, absolutely, Okay, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you after that. Another gold hopefully no pressure. Thirteen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from a Hamish.

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Speaker 2: It is ten minutes away from a nice reactions, spoke

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Speaker 2: so well, great interviewers. Well yeah, a lovely interview with

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Speaker 2: Hamish Mike. Thanks so often we don't hear any follow

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Speaker 2: up to special events. Interesting to learn more about the

1241
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Speaker 2: high jump. I couldn't agree more. Aren't we all or

1242
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Speaker 2: am I just a weirdo?

1243
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Speaker 3: Yet again?

1244
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: Aren't we all fascinated with things that we can can't do?

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Speaker 3: See?

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00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: The shot put is a power thing. It's a weight thing.

1247
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: You've got to be a big person. If you're not

1248
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: a big person, you're never going to excel at the shotput.

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: We can aspire, potentially surely to the high jump. We're

1250
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: good at the long jump. Anyone can run along really fast,

1251
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: hit the bar jump. Don't have to be an Olympic champion.

1252
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: But we've got the potential to jump. We've got the

1253
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Speaker 2: potential to run four hundred meters round the track. This

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: is all school sports, right, But the high jump was

1255
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: that illusory thing whereby for a while, Yes you can

1256
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: when it's low enough, we all jump over, and then

1257
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: it gets a little bit higher and you may start

1258
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: dropping out, and then you fancy yourself and the scissors

1259
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: are working, and then you do the role. I'm disappointed

1260
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Speaker 2: to hear the roles not as big as it was

1261
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: when he ran down my age.

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Speaker 3: Obviously I was not disappointed.

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Speaker 16: I was.

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Speaker 15: I found it very amusing that he said that you were.

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 15: I think I'm paraffe uphrasing, but like an old coat

1266
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 15: basically to have done that technique at all.

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: Like he had obviously read about it in a book. Yes,

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00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: before he hit an exactly like when they did it

1269
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: in Egypt. Apparently that's what you used to do. But

1270
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: the so did you not? Did you not flop?

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Speaker 20: No?

1272
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 11: One?

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Speaker 3: Frosbury flopped?

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Speaker 2: I flopped all bollocks, I did not.

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: I did? You did not?

1276
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 15: I flopped and and I could do it, and then

1277
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 15: I got it wrong a couple of times and landed

1278
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 15: on the bar.

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00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah that hurts.

1280
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 15: That's got that sure, That really hurts, and it gets

1281
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 15: in your head.

1282
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: And you're done for. And that's what the sports. That's

1283
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: the problem with the sports or psychological When you look

1284
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: at the bar, how high did you go? Roughly do

1285
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: you go as was the bar below your head.

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00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 15: Or it would have been slightly higher than the mat,

1287
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 15: getting as high as the mat.

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: So you Frosby flopped over two and a half feet,

1289
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: that's that's not that's just falling back, maybe even been lower,

1290
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: that's not real, and still managed to knock for bar off.

1291
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: For goodness sake.

1292
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: Great higher jumper who I saw at the Commonwealth Games

1293
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: in Auckland a few years ago was that Roger And

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: it was Roger to Poony, Roger to Purney. You're talking

1295
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: about Roger to Purney, Mike. First time I ever did

1296
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: the Western role was at Mount Rothwell Grammar in nineteen

1297
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: seventy and a sawdust pit. I broke my arm and

1298
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: had to do my school certificate examination writing lift handed.

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Speaker 15: And to think they don't do that technique anymore.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what happened there. Eight minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking break best with the Jaguar nas News.

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Speaker 2: Talk edb by Mike Hamish. Top bloke couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: It's what I think, in general, not always, but in general,

1304
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: sport teaches you you'd end up being a half decent

1305
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: human being as far as I can work out, Mike,

1306
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: how about we accept the problem and start to invest

1307
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: in nuclear and just look up what's his name, Larry Ellison, who,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I think ended up being an owner

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Speaker 2: of Paramount, which is related certainly to Channel ten on

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Speaker 2: Australia because he was one of the bidders who bought something.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the company's famous company,

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Speaker 2: but they happen to own Paramount anyway, it's a major

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Speaker 2: media player art Anyway, he was on an earnings call

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Speaker 2: this week and he was talking about data centers and

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Speaker 2: how we don't have power to run data centers. So

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Speaker 2: he's building three small nuclear reactors, not him personally because

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Speaker 2: he probably doesn't know how. And then you think, are

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Speaker 2: these little reactors real? And as it turns out, they are,

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Speaker 2: but not really. There are three of them in the world,

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Speaker 2: and at least one of them is in Russia, the

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Speaker 2: other ones in China, so it's got that vibe about it,

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Speaker 2: so it's not really commercialized to this particular point. But

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Speaker 2: I think this is where we're going, and Britain certainly

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Speaker 2: been looking at them. They're getting smaller and smaller and

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Speaker 2: smaller and therefore more and more useful, because the argument

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Speaker 2: run nuclear power for a country like ours was it

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Speaker 2: was way too expensive and we didn't have a big

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Speaker 2: enough population. If we joined with Australia we might be

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Speaker 2: able to do it. But with technology these days, if

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Speaker 2: Oracle can run their business on a small nuclear reactor,

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Speaker 2: then potentially long term we are, which then brings up

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Speaker 2: the debate do we want to have the debate or

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Speaker 2: is it forever buried?

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with our Veta Retirement Communities, Life your Way News

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Speaker 1: togsa'd be. I've been a bird.

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Speaker 19: Of no trust ever since the day you left.

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Speaker 8: Been so long I could almost forgive, but not yet.

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Speaker 12: The airborn with figures, your voice turned inside my head.

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Speaker 17: Forgotten songs on an old cassette will come on.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I like it, but it's close.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking that's it's It's got a vibe about it.

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Speaker 2: So this is Mercury riv who is Jonathan Donahue album

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Speaker 2: is called Born Horses Uh. He's inspired this time by

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Speaker 2: Robert Creeley, who taught at the State University of New

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Speaker 2: York at Buffalo, where the band formed. He was major

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Speaker 2: influence on the album. Apparently he ponders his unknowable mind.

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Speaker 10: I looked because.

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Speaker 2: Don Hue gliding from thought to thought like a trapeze

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Speaker 2: artist over a deconstructed landscape of smoky trumpets and bustling drops.

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Speaker 2: The press relieve.

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Speaker 3: Artist did right like.

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Speaker 13: The game.

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Speaker 15: I didn't tell us how long it was still long,

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Speaker 15: want to forget it, but.

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Speaker 2: Not yet been so long since you played an ald

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Speaker 2: Man life.

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Speaker 16: If we've gotten so you do like it now?

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Speaker 3: Actually?

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Speaker 2: Actually I think I do eight tracks. See that's pitiful,

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Speaker 2: isn't it?

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Speaker 3: That is pitiful?

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine The Week in Review with two degrees, fighting

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Speaker 1: for fear for Kiwi business.

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Speaker 2: It is past eight. Tim Wilson's with us along with

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Speaker 2: Kate Hawksby.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk Tim. School sports highlights. Where were you good?

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Speaker 3: What do you do at school? I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: there was.

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Speaker 20: There was a time of absolute glory the B team

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Speaker 20: for following your high school hockey.

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Speaker 3: When we bust across to PARMI.

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Speaker 6: I was subbed off after thirty.

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Speaker 3: Minutes because I was so useless. But bit a squash,

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Speaker 3: bit a squash, I think, okay.

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Speaker 20: I used to go down to this, well, the thing

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Speaker 20: was down the squash club that's used to keep mc dury's.

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Speaker 20: So I go and play a game of squash or two,

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Speaker 20: open up my locker, roll myself a SIGI and contemplate such.

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Speaker 2: Really a Hamish cur type moment there was it that.

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Speaker 21: Was such a lovely interview.

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Speaker 3: Hamush Cur was so great.

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Speaker 2: Isn't a delightful guy? And do you know do you

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Speaker 2: know why he's delightful? Why he's from christ.

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Speaker 3: J All right, that explains it. Listen to.

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Speaker 2: Actually he's born and done and studied in Parmeerston North.

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Speaker 2: He's done some agricultural stuff and he's not using it

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Speaker 2: anytime soon, so he's got a back up long term.

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Speaker 3: But it does.

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Speaker 2: We've all am I right, Katie and saying we've all

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Speaker 2: a done school sports, but be fascinated ourselves with the

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Speaker 2: high jump because none of us can do it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 21: It was such a competitive thing because if you were

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Speaker 21: little and sprightly, which I imagine you where and I

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Speaker 21: was pretty, you know, like a string bean and probably

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Speaker 21: tim too, you kind of begged yourself to get a

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Speaker 21: bit of momentum and fling your body across it.

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Speaker 3: So I used to be really disappointed.

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Speaker 21: If I didn't, it was like, wait, what why didn't

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Speaker 21: my body get across this?

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Speaker 3: But did Mike, Mike, did you do the high jump?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We all did the high jump because it was compulsory,

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Speaker 2: so so school sports was compulsory.

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Speaker 3: And though right, yeah, you did, well you did.

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Speaker 21: No, No, you in particular wouldn't like did.

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Speaker 20: You he's got he's got hang on this guy a

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Speaker 20: step back at but he's got little legs, so he's

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Speaker 20: going to have more of a run up.

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Speaker 3: Well, did you hear?

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Speaker 2: Hamish's answer was if you are slight like I am,

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Speaker 2: you needed more speed, so yes, you need to come

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Speaker 2: from a long distance. It was it was like my

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Speaker 2: cricket career. One of the most embarrassing moments of my

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Speaker 2: sporting life was when I was playing cricket at Hagley

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Speaker 2: Park in the Sir Richard Hadley team captained by Sir

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Speaker 2: Richard Hadley, and he came up to me and I'll

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Speaker 2: never forget it. And I was not an unreasonable cricketer

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Speaker 2: like I was. You know, I could you you would

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Speaker 2: look at me, go he's played some cricket anyway. He

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Speaker 2: comes up to me and he goes left arm, medium

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Speaker 2: pace as though that's something that I would be doing,

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Speaker 2: and I said, sure, sir, rich and that's been left

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Speaker 2: arm medium pace anyway, because I got carried away with myself.

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Speaker 2: I took it back in the run up just a

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Speaker 2: little bit further than was necessary to try and turn

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Speaker 2: myself into a Richard Hadley or Dennis Lily. And so

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Speaker 2: I came in from the long basically from the boundary,

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Speaker 2: and so as I built.

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Speaker 12: So built up.

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Speaker 2: Really annoying kids. You can imagine where the ball went,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't on the pitch, it was nowhere near anybody.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing was just so embarrassing. And I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure I dislocated my shoulder.

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Speaker 6: And that was the beginning of your shoulder issues.

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Speaker 2: And that was pretty much the beginning of my shoulder issues.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Nine months crouched him a couple of things. I want

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Speaker 2: to test out this morning, So the space walks, the talk, right,

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Speaker 2: how much would a space walk need to be for

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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: you Tim to pay it and go, yep, I'll do

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Speaker 2: that because that's an interesting thing to do, or would

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Speaker 2: you never do it?

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight dollars fifty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you don't really care. It needs to be

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Speaker 2: like it needs to be nothing. I don't think i'd

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Speaker 2: even go if.

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Speaker 3: It was free.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, it's what about what about the high altitude skydiving?

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Speaker 20: You have you considered that there was a bloke who

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Speaker 20: didn't while back out of a plane in a space suit,

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Speaker 20: you fall for thirty nine ks. This bloke Ossie broke

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Speaker 20: Mac one point twenty five, so fastest falling person.

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Speaker 3: Would you do that?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: No, see no, I don't jump off the table at home,

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Speaker 2: far less do a parachute jump, jump, will do any

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Speaker 2: of those sort of things?

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Speaker 3: Mac too?

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Speaker 2: I wonder if you do?

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Speaker 3: You feel it as you go through the MAC? Well?

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Speaker 20: Would you in your spacesuit though, that's the question, or

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Speaker 20: would it just be see you'd want to be you

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Speaker 20: want to take your helmet off as your break in

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Speaker 20: the MAC, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Well flick your visor up and just see what the wind?

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Speaker 2: See what the wind feels like?

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Speaker 21: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoy it, like I thoroughly enjoyed hammishear. I

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Speaker 2: think I think people like that. There's something about sports

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Speaker 2: in the CADI. What is it about sport that turns

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Speaker 2: people into decent human beings?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: I just think they're well rounded. They've usually they've usually

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Speaker 21: got good families who've backed them up, and they've usually

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Speaker 21: had a weekends, you know, weekends filled with sport, and

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Speaker 21: they've made good connections. And it's good community sport. I mean,

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Speaker 21: that's why they encourage you at a very young age

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Speaker 21: to get your kids into as much of it as possible,

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Speaker 21: which is actually quite pricey these days though by the

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Speaker 21: time you pay all the club fees and all the

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Speaker 21: uniforms and all the gear. I do think that's an issue.

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Speaker 21: But if you can get your kids into as much

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Speaker 21: sport as possible within reasons, it sort of rounds them out.

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Speaker 21: I don't know, it's good for them.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. It's the team.

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Speaker 20: It's the team issue, isn't it Actually? Well, but it's

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Speaker 20: also like I can't do this on my own. I

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Speaker 20: have to have people to help me. I think our

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Speaker 20: society has just become fragmented and individualistics. Sports the antidote

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Speaker 20: to that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it isn't It isn't funny you should say that

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: because Martin Crow, who I remember talking to because I

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Speaker 2: was always interested in him. Here he was a singular character,

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Speaker 2: but he played in the team sport but cricket's one

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Speaker 2: of those games, for example, that you can be a

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Speaker 2: singular character and start in end of your own right

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Speaker 2: while being in a team as well. And he and

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Speaker 2: he was one of those. He didn't ask me.

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Speaker 6: He was still.

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Speaker 3: He didn't ask me.

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Speaker 6: He'd been talking to Sir Richard exactly.

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Speaker 2: He didn't ask It was a brief break. I've got

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Speaker 2: another question for the we've done that. We've agreed we

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Speaker 2: wouldn't go on a space walk. Another question in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, carle

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Speaker 3: Talk Zip seventeen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight, The Week in Review with two degrees bringing smart

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Speaker 1: business solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sam says, you pay a thousand bucks. The point

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Speaker 2: I was trying to make is unless you can get

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Speaker 2: me up there that everyone seems to agree. The look

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Speaker 2: back down to Earth is the thing. So you go

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Speaker 2: back and go, wow, that's where I live. So but

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Speaker 2: the point is, you got it takes so long to

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Speaker 2: get there, and really how long what if you step out?

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Speaker 2: How long do you look back down at Earth going oh,

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Speaker 2: that's really cool before you go?

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Speaker 3: Right time to go? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 20: Can't be bothered with the commutes, can't be fast.

1526
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: It's just just send me, send me a picture exactly.

1527
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1528
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 20: Hey, hey, I just want to say a great comment

1529
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 20: I thought at five to seven this morning about about

1530
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 20: Trump and immigration and Springfield.

1531
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 6: Yes, there is an issue here. There's clearly an issue here.

1532
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 20: Same with there's a place called Aurora where they've got

1533
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 20: Venezuelan gangs, extortion, beatings, child prostitution in housing projects.

1534
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 3: There is an issue. He's just he just fumbled.

1535
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just him, it's it's the nut jobs

1536
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: who surround him. And if you just got rid of

1537
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: the weirdos and you dealt with the issue, then then

1538
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: you might deal with the issue as opposed to getting

1539
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 2: waylaid with all of the other stuff. Second question, Okay,

1540
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: the nine month cruise. Most interesting article I read this

1541
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 2: week was the Serenade of the Seas, which is just

1542
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: returned from nine month cruising. And they talk to the

1543
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 2: people on the cruise. Do most of the people think

1544
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: they had a great time and would do it again,

1545
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: or to most of the people never want to get

1546
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: on a ship again.

1547
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 21: Well, they're probably anyone who goes on a nine month

1548
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 21: cruise is obviously a hardened cruiser, so they probably loved it.

1549
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: They hated it, did they, but almost universally they hated it.

1550
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: They came back and they said, a couple of things happened.

1551
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: One see, there's the other one, which is around the world.

1552
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: One that you buy a cabin and you pop on

1553
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: and off as you see please, and that's what happens.

1554
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 2: This one was a nine month cruise. You're on there

1555
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: for nine months. They all missed their family, they all

1556
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: missed stuff that was going on on land that they

1557
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: never got to experience. And they were going, oh damn,

1558
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: I was missing that one.

1559
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 3: What a shame.

1560
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 2: And they got bored witless basically, and it was too

1561
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: long and they felt trapped.

1562
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean I could have told you that before

1563
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 21: you went on board.

1564
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 3: I mean that just seems so obvious.

1565
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 21: I don't know who would be.

1566
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: So you know that's why nine.

1567
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: Months, Yeah, that seems well, because that's what happens. What

1568
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: you do is you go, well, here's a ten day cruise. Hey,

1569
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: how about a twenty.

1570
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 3: One day cruise.

1571
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, thirty two days around Scandinavia, And

1572
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: before you know, you're on a nine month cruise.

1573
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: That's how that was. Nine months is long about a

1574
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy day cruise.

1575
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 21: It's too much because if you just said a baby

1576
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 21: that long and I can tell you it's a long

1577
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 21: long time, having done it three times, it's nine months

1578
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 21: is a long time.

1579
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: Ask any pregnant woman.

1580
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: Could you argue that having a baby is not the

1581
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: same as going on a cruise?

1582
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 12: Well, I don't know.

1583
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 21: Both sound pretty, you know, taking.

1584
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: On a lot unusual, having nothing like it. You're not

1585
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: comparing apples and orange just here, and you're stating a

1586
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 3: baby baby. You're creating life. It's beautiful, it's a wonderful journey.

1587
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 3: But with you and your bride, why.

1588
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 21: Are you worried about That's okay, it's good for you

1589
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 21: to say that because you're not actually carrying the baby

1590
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 21: there to a thiever, yeah yeah.

1591
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 3: Well oh.

1592
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 6: You're you're a man.

1593
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 3: You can't talk about the boundary. Don't start, don't start

1594
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 3: with it down, don't start with this. You can't comment.

1595
01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 6: Listen, Thank you very much.

1596
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: Twenty two.

1597
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 3: I am sorry, Caddy. I just say I am I.

1598
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 21: I just say I am a little bit concerned that

1599
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 21: you're you're lining up a pretty terrifying retirement for us,

1600
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,879
Speaker 21: because what you have so fart seduced this week.

1601
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 3: Is space a nine month spacewalk or moving.

1602
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 21: To a house and above a racetrack that has cars

1603
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 21: in the lounge.

1604
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: Above it's on a racetrack, which does lead me to

1605
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 2: twenty two Monaco Drive. So it's a beautiful house, have

1606
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: you seen it, Tim?

1607
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 20: Yes, it's it's not quite for us because if you've

1608
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 20: got a car in the lounge, the philistines will jump,

1609
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 20: We'll grab the keys.

1610
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 6: They'll be doing donuts in the living room. Forget about it.

1611
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: Problem being.

1612
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 21: If you're living on a race track, what about them?

1613
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 9: You've got rear.

1614
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 21: All day.

1615
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 3: No, that's you on the race track.

1616
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 20: I've got to semi if you like that, I've got

1617
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 20: to semi detached on Dominion Road.

1618
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 6: That will just suit you.

1619
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 3: Guys, do you reckon?

1620
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you do when you reach

1621
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: your point, Tim, where your dreams are being scuttled right

1622
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: in front of you?

1623
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 3: Right?

1624
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 21: Oh, come on, these are crazy dreams.

1625
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 7: You got it.

1626
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 3: This is crazy stuff you get. So you know what

1627
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 3: you're get new dreams. Go and get some new dreams.

1628
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: Where do you get new dreams from? The new dream Shop.

1629
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: Do you get down to the new dream.

1630
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 21: Shop somewhere either than a raceway or a cruise ship

1631
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 21: or a space brocket.

1632
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 2: Okay, countdown this abount of fun here. So there's no space,

1633
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: there's no rocket, there's no.

1634
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 10: Look.

1635
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: I've got it. I've got it.

1636
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 6: Crocheting.

1637
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 20: This is what this is for you. And you're sitting

1638
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 20: there quietly, You're thinking about things, You're talking about the

1639
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 20: stuff that's interesting.

1640
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 6: You're making nice little outfits.

1641
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: It is time to end this segment. Fourthwith kayhowksby it

1642
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: is a twenty two.

1643
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: The Hosky rests with.

1644
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: Twenty five. Way as I ever finally hear this is

1645
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: the Chemists ware House Spring Frenzy sale. That's on our

1646
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: up to half price, by the way off there every

1647
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: day low prices on the big brand vitamins and cosmetics.

1648
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: So Chemists where the home of course the biggest range

1649
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: of Sandersen and Caruso's vitamins now up to half price.

1650
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't stop. There's Sentrum and Inner Health vitamins up to

1651
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,839
Speaker 2: half price. Your brows the chemist Warehouse range of Radiance

1652
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: in Thompson's vitamins up to half price. Shop your favorite

1653
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: Bioglan and me today. Vitamins you've guessed it up to

1654
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: heart price, and don't forget the cosmetics. Got the MCA Beauty,

1655
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: got the Romel, got the Mabeline, got the Revolution cosmetics,

1656
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: all up to half price. Now the perfect time to

1657
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: stock up on those vitamins and cosmetics and to make

1658
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: the most of the incredible Chemist Warehouse Spring Frenzy sale.

1659
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: It ends twenty five September, So move it hid and store,

1660
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: do it online, but stop paying too much with Chemist Warehouse.

1661
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:36,879
Speaker 3: Hosking.

1662
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: Kamela is in North Carolina. It feels like she's on

1663
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: a roll.

1664
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 3: Do't Carolina? Today?

1665
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: I then ask you, are you ready to make your

1666
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: voices heard?

1667
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,959
Speaker 12: Do we believe in freedom?

1668
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 13: Do we believe in opportunity?

1669
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 8: Do we believe in the promise of Americas?

1670
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 20: And are we ready to fight for it?

1671
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: And when we fight we.

1672
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 3: Blessing.

1673
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: Here's what she's doing right one she's feeling good from

1674
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: the other night. Of course, they got a bigger crowd,

1675
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: they get a noisier crowd. I mean, yes, it's the

1676
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: same line every time. But maybe I'm right, Maybe they're

1677
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: going to vote on the vibes and that's all they need.

1678
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: But she feels good, sounds good, looks good at this

1679
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: present point in time. Mind you, there's two months ago.

1680
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: Using a couple of moments, then let's cross the Tasman

1681
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: Kieren Gilbert's our man at Sky News after the news here,

1682
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 2: which is next.

1683
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the

1684
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from

1685
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: a different cloth.

1686
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 3: News talks Edben.

1687
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: Mike accommodation was sure to in Cromwell, so stayed at

1688
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: Highland Motorsport Park, had my mother with us, a great

1689
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: result I thought for a place to stay.

1690
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: However, it has to be.

1691
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,839
Speaker 2: Said it's not for everyone, as I was regularly reminded

1692
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: when wanting some piece to watch and laps from the balcony.

1693
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: The good news for Katie though, is that it's quite

1694
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: outside the track opening hour, so you see there's a

1695
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 2: little bit of something there for everybody. Twenty three minutes

1696
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: away from.

1697
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 13: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1698
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 13: mind for New Zealand business.

1699
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: You're Revealberasco and news back letters for a Friday Morning

1700
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: money mate, Mike morning, do explain this to me. I

1701
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: was trying my hardest to get my head around it.

1702
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: So changes to well home care and residential so we're

1703
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: talking aged care. Do people end up paying more or

1704
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 2: is the government coughing more as well.

1705
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 16: No, people are going to pay more. And the only

1706
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 16: way you could do this is if you had the

1707
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 16: two major parties agreed to some reform here. And we've got,

1708
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 16: like many nations around the world, what's called a demographic

1709
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 16: time bomb. Our population is aging. Something had to be done, Mike,

1710
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 16: and to put the age care sector on a sustainable footing,

1711
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 16: and I think they're right, the major parties to get

1712
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 16: this done. It's a modest increase in what people are paying.

1713
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 16: But yes, some assets and what people might have hoped

1714
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 16: might be their legacy for their kids and grandkids. They'll

1715
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 16: have to just eat away at that a little to

1716
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 16: ensure their care in their older years.

1717
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: So if you're on what we would call the super

1718
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: and nothing else, are you paying for something or does

1719
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: the state cover that? And as it means tested for

1720
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: in other words, the wealthier you are, the more you pay.

1721
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 16: Absolutely it is. Yeah, it's going to kick in at

1722
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 16: thirty thousand dollars a year, which is basically the rate

1723
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 16: of our basic pension. So if you're on the basic pension,

1724
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 16: you won't pay anything. Anything above that you do, but

1725
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 16: gradually scaled up. There is a cap though, as to

1726
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 16: what the most an individual can pay for their care

1727
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 16: of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year. So

1728
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 16: that's if you're a multi millionaire, you won't you'll obviously

1729
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 16: have to contribute the entire amount for your care. But

1730
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 16: if you're not, if you're a part pension or a pensioner,

1731
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 16: it'll be a more modest amount. But as I say,

1732
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 16: that gradually scales up over the income spectrum.

1733
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so at three point thirty three dollars thirty for

1734
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: every dollar paid for residential care versus seven eighty for

1735
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: every dollar paid for home care, are they trying to

1736
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: keep you at home and not overwhelm the aged care

1737
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: residential care sector.

1738
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 16: There is part of that, absolutely, Plus it's also to

1739
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 16: accommodate people who want so many people. I know, I'm

1740
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 16: speaking from experience. My father we're going through this experience

1741
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 16: right now, and he's very keen to stay at home

1742
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 16: as long as he can. But that gets to a point,

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Speaker 16: and I know many of your listeners would know from

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Speaker 16: loved ones that it gets to a point where it's

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Speaker 16: just too difficult to ensure the care, so then at

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Speaker 16: that point they've got to move. But yes, I think

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Speaker 16: that's right.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 16: It's not only just to encourage people to stay home,

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Speaker 16: but to accommodate that wish. But having said that, this

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Speaker 16: is a rare thing in Australian politics right now, Mike,

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Speaker 16: to see a compromise of this sort, We've got an

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Speaker 16: election within eight to nine months. I was a bit

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Speaker 16: surprised to see it. Glad to see it though.

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Speaker 2: Does it take the sting out of the political problem?

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01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: In other words, people go, I may not like it,

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Speaker 2: but given everyone agrees with it, what.

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Speaker 3: Can I do?

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Speaker 16: It absolutely does, And I think what you've got here

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Speaker 16: as well is a pragmatism from the opposition leader. He

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Speaker 16: is saying, if we win the next election unlikely, but

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Speaker 16: the one after, that's a red hot chance. This problem's

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 16: not going anywhere, and they're going to have to find

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Speaker 16: billions of savings. Not because when I said that people

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Speaker 16: are going to pay more, yes they will, but it

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Speaker 16: is also a saving on the budget as well, of

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Speaker 16: upwards of five billion a year, So yes, it's it

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Speaker 16: is actually trimming this ballooning cost making it more sustainable,

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Speaker 16: and I think you having that day bipartisan support across

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Speaker 16: the political aisle definitely takes the sting out.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to put you on the spot, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for doing this, but I was watching Australian Parliament.

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Speaker 2: The opposition the collisions Defense spokesman young Man looked like

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Speaker 2: he'd been in the military. Who is he?

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Speaker 16: Andrew Hasty is his name. He served in the Special Forces,

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Speaker 16: a decorated soldier.

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Speaker 2: So he was talking yesterday and the only reason asked

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Speaker 2: that is that I'm assuming there's some sort of bipartisanship

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Speaker 2: about what happened with the with Miles yesterday.

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Speaker 3: In these medals and the Breton.

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Speaker 16: Report, there's an element of bipartisanship. I wouldn't say it's

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Speaker 16: across in the totality of this issue. But let's first

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Speaker 16: of all talk about what Hasty was. He did get

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Speaker 16: emotional because what yesterday was about was accountability for the

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Speaker 16: commanders in Afghanistan where those alleged war crimes took place

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Speaker 16: many years ago, and it is many years ago now

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Speaker 16: well over a decade, and the process since Brereton has

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Speaker 16: been eight years. So the argument here is it's taking

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Speaker 16: too long for those Special Forces soldiers who a cloud

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Speaker 16: hanging over them. Yesterday wasn't about the individuals accused of

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Speaker 16: a perpetrating a war crime. Yesterday was about accountability for

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Speaker 16: the commanders. They never had citations removed those top brass

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Speaker 16: well yesterday they did. They are going to have them removed,

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Speaker 16: it was announced yesterday, But we won't know who they are.

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Speaker 16: These individuals aren't the ones accused of doing these things themselves,

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Speaker 16: but there is an accountability and a chain of command

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Speaker 16: in the military and it was argued that they should

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Speaker 16: be held accountable in some form as well, and finally

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Speaker 16: that was announced yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then we come to Facebook, and I think

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Speaker 2: every western country in the world has got a problem

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Speaker 2: with big tech at the moment. But Facebook goes and

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Speaker 2: scrapes the details of every single Australian photos and posts

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Speaker 2: to train their AI and they do that because there

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Speaker 2: are no laws in Australia to prevent you from doing it,

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Speaker 2: despite the fact there are laws and places like Europe

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Speaker 2: that you can't. So that's in front of the center inquiry.

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Speaker 2: Are people ropable or is that just good old big

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Speaker 2: tech doing what they do no.

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Speaker 16: I think they are ropeable. Certainly parliamentarians are and this

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Speaker 16: was something that was exposed this week by the Senate process,

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Speaker 16: the Inquiries committees, having Meta and Facebook before them. Initially

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Speaker 16: they denied that this was the case until one of

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Speaker 16: the senators said, actually that's not true and ping them

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Speaker 16: live during our committee hearing. So I think, yep, people

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Speaker 16: are ropable. Hopefully this does lead to tougher laws because

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Speaker 16: this is quite frankly right now the Wild West. When

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Speaker 16: it comes to the jurisdiction overseeing Facebook, big tech and

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Speaker 16: so on, they need to be rained in on a

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Speaker 16: range of issues. This is one of them.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen Karanaza. Earlier on this morning, I was quoting

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Speaker 2: some of the ratings out of Australia. You guys ran

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Speaker 2: the debate the other day No. Seven nine and the

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Speaker 2: ABC did I mean well, in exists of two million

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Speaker 2: people in Australia watched that debate. That's at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: in the morning your time, So you were spot on

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Speaker 2: the other day. It's real, it's alive and people are

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Speaker 2: fully engaged, don't.

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Speaker 16: They They are. Absolutely Our numbers were through the roof

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Speaker 16: as well. There's no doubt people were super engaged, want

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Speaker 16: to know what's going on, want to know whether Donald

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Speaker 16: Trump's making a return, And this was a compelling bit

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Speaker 16: of television, no doubt about it. And I thought it

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Speaker 16: was the contrast was so stark. I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 16: have been talking about it for days now, but the

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Speaker 16: preparation that Harris had clearly put in showed versus the

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Speaker 16: free wheeling Trump. How that plays out in the polls?

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Speaker 3: Who knows exactly?

1839
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Speaker 2: Good on you mate, us to catch appreciative very much,

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Speaker 2: Kieren Gilberts of Sky News.

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Speaker 3: Out of Australia.

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Speaker 1: It is eight forty five the Mike Asking Breakfast Full

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Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Howard By News Talks, a'd be twelve away from nine.

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Speaker 2: I alluded earlier on but the problems faced in our

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01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: education system are very similar in Australia, so they're rejigging

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01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: in New South Wales anyway, a major, major robahaul of

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Speaker 2: the curriculum and for all the people who text me

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01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: and go, one of the reasons they're leaving Years Island

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01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: is because of all the verification of the place. Well

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01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: high school students will be taught about Indigenous Australian's experience

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01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: of colonialization as part of the new curriculum. So take

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Speaker 2: that and smoke it. Biggest overhaul in the state's history

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01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 2: syllabus in a decade compulsory study of the Holocaust, a

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Speaker 2: revised year seven to ten history syllabus. They're changing up

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: geography and visual arts Revised HSC maths in English explicitly

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: articulates the knowledge students will need to learn in each

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Speaker 2: year of schooling. In other words, you're going to mark,

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Speaker 2: You're going to be held to account.

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Speaker 11: Do you know it?

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Speaker 3: Do you not know it?

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Speaker 2: Our syllabus is a steeped and evidence not ideology. So

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Speaker 2: they're doing the same thing that we are, which is good.

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Speaker 2: So we all seem to have come to the same

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Speaker 2: realization at the same time. Civics and citizenship have been mandated.

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Speaker 2: Now that's interesting because I was always a massive fan

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Speaker 2: still am of civics in general. And the unfortunate part

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Speaker 2: of the argument is he goes civics is always been

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Speaker 2: taught in American schools, and once you learn about civics,

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Speaker 2: you want to participate in the democratic process. And of course, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: despite the fact they learn about civics in America, very

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Speaker 2: few people in America participate in the democratic process, so

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Speaker 2: it sort of beats itself up. But anyway that's been mandated.

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Speaker 2: They look at the development of Australian democracy, separation of powers,

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Speaker 2: features at the constitution, referenda, voting in elections, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Under the previous curriculum you could study that, but you

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Speaker 2: had to be taking commerce. And if you didn't take commerce,

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Speaker 2: you never studied it. Those are the sort of the

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Speaker 2: interesting and important bits and pieces there are probably going

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Speaker 2: to apply to your later life than some of the

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Speaker 2: more esthoteric stuff you have taken. Think, what the hell

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Speaker 2: am I studying this for? Mike Shane, Retty's so logical

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Speaker 2: and right to consider using private hospitals to take pressure

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Speaker 2: off waiting lists. Now you can ask Erica Stanford Immigration

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Speaker 2: and Education if she is willing to use private schools

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01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: to solve overcrowded public schools makes sense utilizing capacity that

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Speaker 2: already exists. That is not a bad question. And if

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Speaker 2: I remember, I shall pose it ten to nine.

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Speaker 1: On my cost, will breakfast with a Veta retirement. Communities

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Speaker 1: US dogs had.

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Speaker 2: Been seven away from nine. You've got to celebrate the

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Speaker 2: numbers that came out yesterday. Surely about the cost of living.

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Speaker 2: The food price Index is up zero point four percent

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Speaker 2: for the year, so food's going nowhere. Chocolate is Chocolate's

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01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: grotesquely expensive because they've got cocoa problems. I read an

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Speaker 2: article the other day. I can't remember whether I mentioned it,

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Speaker 2: but they for the first time, I think it was

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Speaker 2: in Switzerland, could have been in Sweden. They're now making

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Speaker 2: or able to make chocolate out of the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So up until now, the husk tossed out, the in

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Speaker 2: it's tossed out. They use the cocoa, that's the end

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Speaker 2: of that. Whereas now they can do they can compress

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Speaker 2: through the scientific method that they've invented, the whole thing.

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: So you take the whole cocoa plant and compress it

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Speaker 2: to the point that it eventually makes chuck.

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Speaker 15: I saw another article this morning that they are making

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Speaker 15: fake chocolate like in a lab, you know, like fake meat.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what chocolate? Let's chocolate the because that'll

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Speaker 2: be crap and will never go anywhere. They're about to

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Speaker 2: put the meat people. I'll have something on Monday. Actually,

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Speaker 2: the meat people are about to make a steak, like

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Speaker 2: a proper steak, A what do you call it? A

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Speaker 2: sinew steak. It's got sinew and.

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Speaker 3: Crap all through it.

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Speaker 2: The bets I don't like exactly fresh fruit and vegetables,

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Speaker 2: they're down twelve percent. You're noticing that. I am orange

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Speaker 2: juice shortage, and so at our place, we're growing oranges

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and grapefruit and good crops and am

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Speaker 2: currently pressing them cold pressing them into juice. So if

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Speaker 2: you want some, it's eight hundred dollars a liter and

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Speaker 2: sam'su man, give them a call.

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Speaker 15: I'm not allowed at the grapefruit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because your heart it's disappointing. You don't know what

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Speaker 2: you're missing. Well, you probably do, do you. We've really

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01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: been a mess effect grape there's grapefruit. What I've discovered,

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Speaker 2: We've got three sorts of grapefruit. There's grapefruit and grapefruit.

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Speaker 2: There's yeh, Grandad's grapefruit that's delicious squashed. There's the ruby

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Speaker 2: red grapefruit that's even more delicious squashed. And then there's

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Speaker 2: a pale yellow skinned grapefruit which is white ish flesh.

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Speaker 2: You got to mix that up with the other great

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Speaker 2: fruit because that by itself is quite bitter.

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Speaker 15: This is what I'm worried about You're gonna mix it up,

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Speaker 15: and then you're gonna offer me a glass of juice,

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Speaker 15: and then you're gonna kill me.

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Speaker 3: Mike's secrets.

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Speaker 2: Mike's secret is so anyway, your fruit and vigies are down,

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01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: your chocolate's up, your olive oils up. There's notes that

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01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,839
Speaker 2: you can't you can't not do olive oil. But overall

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01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: the price of stuff seems to have settled down nicely.

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Speaker 3: Five Away from.

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Speaker 1: Mine trending now the home of big brand cosmetics.

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01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: The debate, all the usual stuff online that's come out

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Speaker 2: of the debate, the weird stuff. Springfield, cats, dogs. This

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01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: guy's going viral for quoting the debate in different Simpsons characters.

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Speaker 10: I have a your concept of a plan.

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01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: Wayne Springfield. They're eating the dogs, the people that came

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Speaker 2: in here, You itting the cats, do youting the pits

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01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: the people that live here.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Now she wants your new transgender operations on a legal

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Speaker 8: aliens of prison.

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Speaker 9: Oh, I get involved with the Tally bear and then

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Speaker 9: I read that she was black eid away, It's okay

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Speaker 9: with me.

1955
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Speaker 3: Execution after bath.

1956
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 10: It's like four sentences like runs but run.

1957
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Had I tollap door don't do it.

1958
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 17: Our country is going to hell.

1959
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1960
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: I invited a duel to keep David. It seems funny

1961
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: now at the time I thought it was this real anyway,

1962
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: then you got a techno song for the weekend.

1963
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 18: Eating the cats eat the cat, Eat the cat.

1964
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 10: They're eating the dogs.

1965
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 18: They're eating the cats, eat the cat, Eat the cat.

1966
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 3: They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats eat the cat.

1967
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: The moment I think she won the debate was when

1968
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: he said that and she just laughed as and like

1969
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: she was just genuinely laughing. It wasn't like Charcole Horror.

1970
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: It was just like this is too good.

1971
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 15: I quite like that when she would just put her

1972
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 15: chin on her hand like she was just enjoying the

1973
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 15: shows care It's just like Trump, you set fire to.

1974
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: Himself anyway, as a Bajan this weekend for the IF one,

1975
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: so that's super exciting. Might be some news on Liam

1976
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: Lawson to look forward to supercars. We'll be watching a

1977
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: little bit. We're watching a bit of that's actually speaking

1978
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: of doing a Hamish curve sports people. I like next

1979
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: week we're going to and he's in the middle of

1980
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: the Irish Open at the moment, so we'll wait till

1981
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 2: that's over. But Ryan Fox is back on the program

1982
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 2: and a sort of a year ending you know chat,

1983
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: So we'll look forward to your company on Monday Happy

1984
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: Days

1985
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast listen live to

1986
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

1987
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,720
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