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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three, news tog said, been the day.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Joyce on what the inflation figure means for the

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Speaker 2: right cuts in our mortgagees. David Seymour tells us the

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Speaker 2: government's already working on next year's budget. Greg Foran tells

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Speaker 2: us what the ComCom report on the auphaned airport charges

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Speaker 2: means for the cost of a ticket Electra a Kiwi.

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Speaker 2: They stopped taking customers because the power market's a mess.

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Speaker 2: Amy Shark is in presign in a chat after late

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Speaker 2: Joe mckennon's in Rome, Rod Liddle does the UK for

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Speaker 2: us as well. Pasky, Yes, buee morning, seven past six.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to it now. In a world where many are

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Speaker 2: wondering what has changed, they can tell you something for

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Speaker 2: nothing this morning, what hasn't changed? Night follows day. The

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Speaker 2: US President, in a move I assumed design to take

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Speaker 2: the temperature down as he requested from the Oval Office

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Speaker 2: on Monday, said that his term putting a bullseye putting

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Speaker 2: a bullseye on Trump was a mistake. I didn't see

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Speaker 2: it as a mistake. Of course, what it was was

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Speaker 2: at worst a clumsy use of words. For all the

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Speaker 2: words got microscopic revision post the assassination attempt on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Of course, no one in their right mind surely would

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Speaker 2: have thought Biden was meaning bullseye as in shoot him,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to bullseye as in focus or hone in

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Speaker 2: on him. Mind you, a lot of people aren't in

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Speaker 2: their right minds these days, whether they're the ones on

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Speaker 2: the roofs with guns or on social media drumming up

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Speaker 2: as much conspiracy as they possibly can. I honestly believe

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Speaker 2: my decision many years ago to not be on social

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Speaker 2: media serve me very very well. It's a cesspit of

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Speaker 2: misery and madness. But back to reality. The speech Trump

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Speaker 2: will give tomorrow night at that convention is apparently different

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Speaker 2: to the one he thought he was going to give.

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Speaker 2: It will allegedly unite America, if not the world. The

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Speaker 2: bullets certainly didn't piers his ego. The tone from the

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Speaker 2: White House and the Democrats generally has been toned down

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Speaker 2: as per request, but given night follows day, it won't last.

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Speaker 2: None of this will last. A president from the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: That's not you, nor is a vague explanation come plea

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Speaker 2: from higher ups who try to say something useful when

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Speaker 2: something like Butler happens. America is besotted with guns, and

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Speaker 2: they shoot each other a lot, and there is no

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Speaker 2: talking them down or changing their minds or justifying their actions.

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Speaker 2: So all the President can do is say what Biden

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Speaker 2: and all the others before them said, which isn't a lot,

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Speaker 2: Which means in time the language will revert, the mood

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Speaker 2: will revert, and night will follow day. This, as they say,

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Speaker 2: is a false dawn.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: No here we wait to have been out overnight on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the Atlantic winter. We start well with

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Speaker 2: King He opened the British Parliament, gave Labour's view of

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Speaker 3: My government will seek a new partnership with both business

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Speaker 3: and working people and help the country move on from

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Speaker 3: the recent cost of living challenges by prioritizing wealth creation

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Speaker 2: How the new Prime Minister gave Labours view of the world.

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Speaker 4: Service is a stronger bond than political self interest. That

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Speaker 4: is what country first means. The only way we can

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Speaker 4: restore trust and the reason this gopment of Service was elected.

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Speaker 2: The Tories tried the old hold on.

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Speaker 5: We did a bit of this unlike that note where

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Speaker 5: we came in and it said there's no money left.

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Speaker 5: Inflation's now back down to two percent, having been eleven

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Speaker 5: unemployments around four percent, one of its lowest rates in history.

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Speaker 2: The insights, I Joe's left the basement to give a speech.

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Speaker 6: It's because of you, and I'm president of Kambela Harrison's

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Speaker 6: vice president. And by the way, she's only a great

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Speaker 6: vice president. She could be president in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Camela doesn't seem though, to have got the Biden memo

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Speaker 2: about cooling the temperature.

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Speaker 7: Hump looked for someone he knew would be a rubber

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Speaker 7: stamp for his extreme agenda.

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Speaker 8: And make no mistake, jd Vance will be loyal only

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Speaker 8: to Trump, not to our country.

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Speaker 2: Then back and Milwaukee. The convention four is full of

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Speaker 8: He's going to prevent World War three.

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Speaker 9: He's a master negotiator.

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Speaker 8: He's the only one hasn't hasn't been in Israel put

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Speaker 8: and that's what the leaders of the of the European world.

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Speaker 2: Finally, yeah, where he's still going. Finally, the trend of

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Speaker 2: ninety seconds. By the way, on the labor inauguration and

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the inflation number came in for

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Speaker 1: Six, the Myke costing breakfast.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I've lost count, but the French Prime

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Speaker 2: But our inflation was okay.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, great news there, Mike, say, you know right at

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Speaker 10: The other good news, Mic, it's also below the three

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Speaker 2: Trump's role in this and his comments about China, Taiwan

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Speaker 2: Okay, numbers please, So the down.

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Speaker 14: Your way is.

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Speaker 2: this Greg morning. Is this a win for the airline?

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Speaker 16: It's a small part of it, mate, you know, it's

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Speaker 16: We still think this more regulatory change required.

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Speaker 2: Will it come.

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Speaker 16: We're going to push and continue to push hard on this,

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Speaker 2: Do you think see Bailey's the government The Commerce Commission

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Speaker 16: Well, of course it's the first time and the Commerce

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Speaker 16: those is too much. What we're looking for is for

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Speaker 16: And it's not that we don't think so money shouldn't

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Speaker 2: Much is do you have any sympathy for them in

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Speaker 16: Basically I would agree with that mark. I don't think

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Speaker 16: But everyone's feeling it. Auckland Airport are doing what Auckland

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Speaker 2: While I've got you tourism mired at eighty percent of

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Speaker 12: Really?

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Speaker 14: I am now.

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Speaker 16: I know my team a and when you have a

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Speaker 2: Well, so I appreciate your time is always great for

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Speaker 2: in American politics. Good recommendation. Neil Having said all of that,

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Speaker 2: what was smart about Trump and what he's done the

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Speaker 2: same way did it with Pence. Pence was the religious

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Speaker 2: aspect of it. Trump's got all the votes he's going

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Speaker 2: to get. You're either voting for Trump or you're not

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Speaker 2: voting for Trump. Might have changed because of Saturday a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but generally speaking, then he needs somebody else.

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Speaker 2: That's way you get a woman. If you don't get

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Speaker 2: a woman, you get a guy who can talk to

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Speaker 2: the rust belt. Very good story on television last night

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Speaker 2: and can't remember rub which channel it was on. Probably

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Speaker 2: worth looking up, woman reporter, I think from ITV wandered

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Speaker 2: around small town Pennsylvania, the sort of thing that Bryant

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Speaker 2: used to do, the Rust Belt America. Look at the

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Speaker 2: way they live, look at their houses. Look at Butler.

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Speaker 2: You've seen Butler. You've never heard of Butler. Go look

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Speaker 2: at Butler. Look at the houses they live in, the

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Speaker 2: money they earn or don't earn, the jobs they have,

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Speaker 2: the lives they lead. And if you can get somebody

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Speaker 2: in the White House that can connect with that, that

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Speaker 2: will win you the presidency. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 17: The My Costing.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast reminds me of that saying from Bruce Springsteen, the

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Speaker 2: gap between the American dream and theor of the American reality.

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Speaker 2: That's my territory IMF. By the way, speaking of China,

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Speaker 2: they came out and upgraded their growth forecast for both

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Speaker 2: China and indeed India. And what's interesting about that those

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Speaker 2: two countries alone account now or will account for, of

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Speaker 2: the growth in the entire world. India seven percent for

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Speaker 2: the year, up from six point eight, China five percent,

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Speaker 2: up from four point six fourteen two.

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Speaker 17: International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 17: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Metalie Johnie Enna, Very good morning for you, good money mate.

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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to you since you went on holiday,

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Speaker 2: have you have I? Oh, that's right, well indeed, and

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Speaker 2: you haven't spoken to me since I went on holiday,

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Speaker 2: So it's been God, has been so long, Joe since

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Speaker 2: we've spoken. How was your holiday? Out of ten?

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Speaker 18: Way too short? I'd say seven out of ten for Croatia, Yes,

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Speaker 18: beautiful scenery, fabulous Mediterranean water or Adriatic water, very transparent,

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Speaker 18: very nice.

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Speaker 15: Food.

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Speaker 18: Was a little bit disappointing, I say, I think we're

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Speaker 18: still spoiled in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good on you, well, very pleased you had a

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Speaker 2: good time. Now, Maloney, tell me about the Poles. First

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Speaker 2: of all, she seemingly can do no wrong.

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Speaker 18: It's incredible when you think about it. I mean, she's

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Speaker 18: been in office now for a year and a half,

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Speaker 18: almost two years coming up in October, and her party,

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Speaker 18: if they had an election tomorrow, would be quite solid

487
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Speaker 18: at around twenty nine percent of the vote according to

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Speaker 18: the latest polls. The nearest rival is the center left

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Speaker 18: Democratic Party, the main opposition party, at around twenty three percent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and she I saw the eye roll. Has that

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Speaker 2: gone down well in Italy? The eye roll at NATO.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think generated a lot more interest around the

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Speaker 18: world than inside Italy. But it's something that she's known

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Speaker 18: for and when she gets bored or angry or frustrated,

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Speaker 18: she tends to roll her eyes and it was caught

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Speaker 18: on camera at the NATO summit, went viral and created

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Speaker 18: all sorts of interest around the world.

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Speaker 2: Okay, talk to me about the weather. I get a

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Speaker 2: daughter in Italy at the moment, she's saying thirty seven

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Speaker 2: thirty eight around the place, that's.

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Speaker 18: Right, and even more severe in places like Sardinia and Sicily.

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Speaker 18: Today we've had some fires. Two forty five year old

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Speaker 18: firefighters lost their lives in southern Italy trying to save

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Speaker 18: a family from a fire around the Materra area. For

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Speaker 18: elderly people have died from the intense heat wave. We've

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Speaker 18: got fourteen cities tomorrow on red alert for the heat,

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Speaker 18: which is a warning for everyone to just take a

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Speaker 18: bit more care, and particularly elderly and vulnerable people.

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Speaker 2: And what happens that there are droughts and you know,

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Speaker 2: things like that that we worry about in this country

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Speaker 2: in the summer when it doesn't rain.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: The odd thing, Mike is we've had storms and heavy

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Speaker 18: rain in the north of the country and worsening drought,

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Speaker 18: particularly in Sicily and Coldaretti. The National Farmers Organization is

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Speaker 18: warning more than thirty thousand jobs have been lost between

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Speaker 18: Sicily and the southern region of Paulia.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. I'm reading the other day Barcelona. What they're doing

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Speaker 2: is standing outside the cafes and they're spraying people with

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Speaker 2: water water guns for the tourists. They hate the tourists,

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Speaker 2: and I know that Italy is inundated with tourists at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Is there angst about the tourist sect?

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Speaker 18: There is a bit of angst. Yeah, I'm particularly with

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Speaker 18: a lack of taxis in Rome. Pockets on the subway

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Speaker 18: out of control more so than usual. One subway station

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Speaker 18: was shut down last Saturday night when two rival pickpocket

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Speaker 18: gangs started fighting with tourists. So there is this wave

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Speaker 18: of tourists that's come in. We've heard about the charge

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Speaker 18: in Venice for day trippers, and even the island of

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Speaker 18: Cupri has been overrun in recent days with Americans. Apparently.

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Speaker 2: Daughter's telling me a lot of biggers at So if

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Speaker 2: you're eating on the street, a lot of biggers they

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Speaker 2: just come up and bother you over dinner or lunch

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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I haven't found it so much around my dinner

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Speaker 18: table at a restaurant, but certainly on the street. It's

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Speaker 18: quite common now to see beggars in front of you

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Speaker 18: on the street.

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Speaker 2: All right, good to catch up, Joe, go well, we'll

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Speaker 2: catch up talk next to this. They appreciate it very much,

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Speaker 2: speaking of itly. By the way, if you've never seen it,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I've recommended it about a million times. But

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Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci did it just an astonishingly good series on

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Speaker 2: CNN about a year ago. And because it was on

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Speaker 2: c and N didn't seem to go anywhere else. So

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Speaker 2: you either got it on CNN or you didn't. It's

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Speaker 2: turned up on the Living Channel, which is channel What's

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Speaker 2: what's the Living Channel's channel seventeen? I think anyway, it's

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Speaker 2: turned up on the Living Channel on Sky.

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Speaker 20: And I really think that people are still dialing in

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Speaker 20: channel numbers and not just going to the on demand thing.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly why I said what I said, you

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Speaker 2: try and find that series on demand and you can't

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Speaker 2: because it was a C and N product that didn't

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Speaker 2: go on demand. So it is channel seven, it's channel

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Speaker 2: seventeen on my box. Just look, Sammy's nodding and he's

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Speaker 2: a what's the gen XA gen wire? A millennial?

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Speaker 11: I think.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Stanley Tucci very very good of her into food

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Speaker 2: and Italy in culture. Generally, nine minutes away from sip.

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Speaker 17: The my costume.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Tuci, I'm told is currently filming another series four National Geographic,

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Speaker 2: which will be uptime.

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Speaker 20: By the way, to go to the Skygo and just

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Speaker 20: I got as far as typing in Stanley because I

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Speaker 20: couldn't even remember what the program was called, and it

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Speaker 20: immediately came out on I yeah, Skygo, which is there

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Speaker 20: on demand service.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 20: Sorry, I'm not I can't be bothered typing in numbers

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Speaker 20: for channels.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see. So you you think typing and sky

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Speaker 2: Go or going straight to Skygo and Stanley is easier

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Speaker 2: than going one to seven.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, you can watch on your phone, watch it on

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Speaker 20: your iPad.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing we're seeing here this morning the Battle of

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Speaker 2: the generations.

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Speaker 20: Aren't we so myself in a different generation than you, please.

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Speaker 2: Defense's slightly unfortunate part, Mike. Why don't the RB and

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Speaker 2: the governess at the OCR rates after the inflation announcements

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Speaker 2: make no sense? Well, the reason is the inflation announcement

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Speaker 2: is ancient, it's months old, and the RB operate on

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Speaker 2: current data, so they set their own agenda. Basically, five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The in and the ouse. It's the fizz with business favor.

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Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So working from home forty one percent of us. This

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Speaker 2: is a new survey up this morning done by recruiter

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Speaker 2: Robert Harf. Forty one percent of as a mandated to

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Speaker 2: be in the office five days a week forty one percent.

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Speaker 2: More employers want more people back in the office full time,

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Speaker 2: so they need to offer flexibility because of their own flexibility.

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Speaker 2: The people who don't want to be in the office game,

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Speaker 2: then they resign go elsewhere. So forty one percent are

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Speaker 2: mandated to be in the office full time fifteen percent,

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Speaker 2: four days a week eighteen percent, three days a week,

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Speaker 2: eight percent, two days a week, three percent, one day

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Speaker 2: a week. About giving you too many numbers, fifteen percent,

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Speaker 2: no mandate or completely flexible. Of those mandated, twenty percent

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Speaker 2: on average say they're unsatisfying with the amount of time

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Speaker 2: that they're expected to be in the office. The most

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Speaker 2: unsatisfied group are those who are mandated to be in

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Speaker 2: the office four days a week. Thirty three percent are unsatisfied.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen percent of people mandated for five and three days

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Speaker 2: are unsatisfied. Of those who don't like being at the office,

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Speaker 2: fifty two percent say it's because of increased cost you

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Speaker 2: got to buy your own lunch.

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Speaker 13: Eh.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven percent sir, it increases stress, he e. Thirty

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Speaker 2: seven percent struggle with the work life balanced off.

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Speaker 20: For God's say, the main reason I don't like it

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Speaker 20: is because there's this guy there keeps making these weird noises.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the other number in this. Ninety seven

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Speaker 2: percent of people hate the people they work with. That's

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Speaker 2: what it boils down to. Thank God, that's double glazing

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Speaker 2: between you and I at the moment, mate, because I'd

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Speaker 2: come through there and smack you.

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Speaker 9: Things are tense this morning. It's not even seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We haven't even begun. Stephen Joyce on what all the

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Speaker 2: CPI means and whether we're going to get a cut,

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Speaker 2: and how bugger the economy is in general? Amy Shark,

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Speaker 2: you know the name Amy Shark. She's been battling away

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Speaker 2: for years to be as successful as she is today.

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Speaker 2: So she will come in with her guitar and see

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Speaker 2: as the song after.

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Speaker 1: Eight, the newspeakers and the personalities the big names talk

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Speaker 1: to like Costing breakfast with Jaguar, the art of performance

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Speaker 1: news tog said.

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Speaker 2: Be seven past seven. So what do we make of

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Speaker 2: the CPI number, inflation, Whether inflation is now t trending

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Speaker 2: towards a level whereby the Reserve Bank might have to

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Speaker 2: cut and spark and a little bit of hope, maybe

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Speaker 2: some optimism back into the economy. Zero point four percent

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Speaker 2: for the three months to June was what we got annualized.

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Speaker 2: That's three point three, which was down from four. And

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Speaker 2: now the bank's are religned and thinking that the cuts

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Speaker 2: are going to come this year, not next form of

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Speaker 2: finance Minister Stephen Joyce, is what this very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, by the way, to see more comments which

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're up on. You said yesterday. We need relief.

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Speaker 2: It's about time relief and then we get the independence

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Speaker 2: of the Reserve Bank, etcetera. Is that politics or is

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Speaker 2: that good sound the economic advice? Do you reckon well?

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Speaker 14: I think in this case probably a little bit of both.

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Speaker 14: I think we do need relief. I think the Reserve

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Speaker 14: Bank won't give the business sector as much as at

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Speaker 14: once and believes it needs, but it will start moving fairly. So.

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Speaker 2: I think the non tradable at fire point four it's

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Speaker 2: still stuck as a stuck thing, despite the fact that

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Speaker 2: came down from fire point eight. How much can they

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Speaker 2: look through or see through this stuff versus it being

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Speaker 2: a real problem.

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Speaker 14: It is the most important problem, if you like, if

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Speaker 14: you look across the data is a non tradable, nice

657
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Speaker 14: sort of goes straight to that and see, okay, what

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Speaker 14: are we doing? It was point nine for the quarter,

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Speaker 14: still a bit high, but trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 14: And I understand it was a change in approach to

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Speaker 14: something like road user charges or something which made it

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Speaker 14: a bit noisier then than otherwise would have been according

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Speaker 14: to the A and Z. Anyway, so it's probably it's

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Speaker 14: definitely trending down. Is it down far enough? This is

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Speaker 14: where I think the bank needs to look beyond the

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Speaker 14: beyond the data and actually take a very close look

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Speaker 14: at what's happening around particularly regional New Zealand, but also

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Speaker 14: in Auckland. And I think there's a real risk of overshooting.

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Speaker 14: I think they know that. But you know, the question

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Speaker 14: we're now talking about is do we get one cut

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Speaker 14: in September OCTOVID November? Probably?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's interesting to hear because the other day

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Speaker 2: was key when they you know, all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: they changed tack, didn't they. So that was that the

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Speaker 2: moment you think they got it?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think they now do get it. I mean, look,

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Speaker 14: they'll be worried, sure of going too soon and unleashing

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Speaker 14: animal spirits in the housing market, for example, but it

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Speaker 14: doesn't seem to be much in the way of animal

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Speaker 14: spirits in the housing market at the moment. And I

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Speaker 14: think what will probably happen is you'll get one cut earlier,

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Speaker 14: maybe than we were expecting up until yesterday, and then

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Speaker 14: I suspect they might hold again to see the next

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Speaker 14: round of data because the next round of data comes

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Speaker 14: in what late October? Does that go against unless something

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Speaker 14: else happens, right?

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Speaker 2: Does that they go against orthodoxy in the sense that

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Speaker 2: you don't cut once in hold, you cut, and then

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Speaker 2: you cut because you're confident you've done your job.

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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, ideally, that's that's the textbook, but this is

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Speaker 14: still you know, My point is that's still on a

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Speaker 14: night edge, right, So they know they see all the

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Speaker 14: data and it's just just about there, and then they

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Speaker 14: look the other side and they look at the real economy,

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Speaker 14: and the real economy is really struggling, and it's the

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Speaker 14: real risk that they overshoot. So that's why I think

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Speaker 14: they might do something. I mean, what do I know,

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Speaker 14: But I think they might do start and then and

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Speaker 14: then hold them because it suits the cycle as well,

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Speaker 14: because they they have they don't come back and yeah

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Speaker 14: when the data and the data isn't available to the

703
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Speaker 14: end of octabers, so what do they do to their

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Speaker 14: way to the end of October and then do something

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Speaker 14: in November, which means they're effectively doing one and holding anyway.

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Speaker 14: So I suspect we're now debating a first cut in

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Speaker 14: October November. I don't think we'll see a point five

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Speaker 14: this year, that's my view. But what we'll do is

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Speaker 14: get a downward track. It won't be enough on its own,

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Speaker 14: but it might give some people some hope, as it should,

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Speaker 14: but we're also the other thing to watch MIC is

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Speaker 14: what's happening and the rest of the economy, and I

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Speaker 14: think people want to keep a COSI on things like

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Speaker 14: the global dairy auction, for example, which is now down

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Speaker 14: three times. They'll be watching that closely because that if

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Speaker 14: that keeps dropping, then they might feel the need to

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Speaker 14: go a little bit further sooner. Because it's no doubt

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Speaker 14: about it that the rural economy is in pretty tough

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Speaker 14: shape and the only thing that's keeping it going at

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Speaker 14: the moment is dairy prices. So you don't want to

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Speaker 14: see that fall over and then you're too late cutting exactly.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your expertise, Stephen Joyce, former Finance Minister, and answer

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Speaker 2: to the question what does he know? The answers he

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Speaker 2: knows a lot and that's why to keep getting him

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Speaker 2: on the program. Eleven past seven and while we wait

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Speaker 2: paradream to work out what is next and when David

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Speaker 2: Seymore was wasting no time and his role is acting

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister this week to tell us that budget twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five is well underway, despite the fact we've only

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Speaker 2: just got past twenty twenty four couple of weeks back,

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Speaker 2: David Seamore's with us Morning Morning Mate. The fact you're

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Speaker 2: working on next year's budget having just got past this

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Speaker 2: year's budget. Is this part of the reminder that this

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Speaker 2: year it wasn't a one off in terms of savings

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Speaker 2: and cuts and there's more where that came from.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I've heard Nicholo Willis's say something like you're not

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Speaker 21: going to fix six years of trouble in one budget.

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Speaker 21: And if you just look at the basic numbers, the

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Speaker 21: government spending about one hundred and forty billion, we've said

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Speaker 21: that we're committed to only increasing by two point four

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Speaker 21: billion a year. Now, that's about one point seven percent.

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Speaker 21: You're going to see infation that you probably about two

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Speaker 21: in the long term. Then if you get population growth

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Speaker 21: of nearly two percent like we've had recently, well that's

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Speaker 21: a four percent increase to stay stay still. But we're

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Speaker 21: only allowing one point seven So already you've got to

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Speaker 21: get a couple of percent efficiency each year, and a

748
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Speaker 21: couple of percent means that you've got to find three

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Speaker 21: billion of savings each year just to stand still. But

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Speaker 21: in reality, we know that surprises come along. Who knows

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Speaker 21: our allies seem to want us to spend more on defense.

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Speaker 21: For example, I personally think we should, and who knows

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Speaker 21: what other pressures will come across, But just as a

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Speaker 21: starting point, you've got to save several billion a year

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Speaker 21: just to keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying, you're your quoted are saying we will

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Speaker 2: see better savings. Is that better or bigger? And how

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Speaker 2: much bigger do they get before people go to tell

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Speaker 2: you what this is too far, too much and that

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Speaker 2: becomes political.

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Speaker 21: Well, just put it in a bit of context. Grant Robertson,

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Speaker 21: who doesn't exactly have a reputation for being a big saver,

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Speaker 21: he keeps government spending at about twenty eight to twenty

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Speaker 21: nine percent of GDP pre COVID. We're now thirty two

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Speaker 21: thirty three, aiming to get down to thirty one in

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Speaker 21: the next few years. So on our current trajectory, we're

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Speaker 21: still going to be bigger spenders than pre COVID. Robertson,

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Speaker 21: I'd certainly like to be ambitious to say, look, maybe

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Speaker 21: we can actually save a bit more and get a

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Speaker 21: bit closer to that standard that's going to mean, instead

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Speaker 21: of just saying, look, we're going to take a haircut

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Speaker 21: of six or seven the center of every department. You know,

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Speaker 21: let's do some deep dives and start asking, well, how

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Speaker 21: can we actually go back.

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Speaker 14: To first principles?

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Speaker 21: If we weren't already doing this, would we start today

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Speaker 21: and what would be the basis for that? But as

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Speaker 21: I said yesterday, all of this is kind of you know,

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Speaker 21: we've just started the twenty five budget with a few

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Speaker 21: preliminary meetings and you know, all of that's still up

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Speaker 21: in the year. None of it's none of it's certain

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Speaker 21: at this point.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time. Acting Prime Minister David Seymour. This morning,

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Speaker 2: fourteen past seven, Paski quin in the National Convention. Both

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Speaker 2: parties are the one for the Republicans at the moment

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Speaker 2: of Milwaukee is that it culminates in our time. It

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Speaker 2: will be tomorrow afternoon Thursday nights in Milwaukee where the

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Speaker 2: President will accept the nomination or the president candidate or

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Speaker 2: the presidential candidate will accept the nomination and they will

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Speaker 2: speak for the first time and everyone will go nuts

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Speaker 2: and have a great party over the weekend. So jd

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Speaker 2: Vance is the lead up to that. So this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: our time, he's supposed to be speaking for the first time,

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Speaker 2: except he's speaking now, so why on earth would you

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Speaker 2: look to upstage yourself first?

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Speaker 22: What I'll do after my remarks actually is try to

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Speaker 22: take some photos and hang out if you've got anything

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Speaker 22: you want me to sign. You guys are going to

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Speaker 22: hear me speak tonight for a much longer time than

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Speaker 22: you're going to hear me speak today, and I'd like

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Speaker 22: to get and actually visit with you a little bit,

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Speaker 22: so hopefully you're ready, because I'd love to just talk

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Speaker 22: with people and answer some questions and take some photos.

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Speaker 2: So he wants to take some photos and selfie selfie

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Speaker 2: time preview himself for tonight's speech. Go figure fifteen past

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Speaker 2: seven the mic hosting racist once again, the power markets mess.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about it in about fifteen minutes. Eighteen

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Speaker 2: past seventeen. Councils across Wellington and the wire Rapper want

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Speaker 2: more time to consider water reform plans. They currently have

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Speaker 2: a year to develop an adopt mechanism, so the medias

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Speaker 2: have done the collective letter thing asking for an extension. Now,

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Speaker 2: the chair of the advice we got overside group name

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Speaker 2: Kerry prindergasts with us on this. Kerrie morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you and you too. Water reform

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Speaker 2: has been on the agenda for years and years and years.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need even more time?

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Speaker 12: Well, because there is new legislation being promulgated. We've put

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Speaker 12: a submission in. The reality is we have a year

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Speaker 12: from when it gets concerned and trying to get ten

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Speaker 12: councils first of all to agree on a financially sustainable

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Speaker 12: water program. But then they have to talk to their

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Speaker 12: elected officials. Then we have to consult with the communities,

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Speaker 12: and then we have to come up with a package

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Speaker 12: that is going to take longer than a year.

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Speaker 23: Would you ask them?

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Speaker 24: Could that make it two years?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Would you reckon? Other councils will be going here

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Speaker 2: here we agree, Or you're some sort of outlier with

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Speaker 2: your group of ten and you can't quite get your

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Speaker 2: act together.

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Speaker 12: Oh no, I think we're probably first cab off the rank.

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Speaker 12: The reality is the government did a deal with Auckland.

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Speaker 12: Where as far as we know, we're far more advanced

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Speaker 12: than any other groups of councilors on the work we're doing,

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Speaker 12: and I think they'll all be agreeing with us.

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Speaker 16: They need more time.

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Speaker 2: The ten you're talking or representing. Is that a deal

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Speaker 2: you're going to look to put together as a group

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Speaker 2: of ten or you just happen to be ten in

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Speaker 2: the region.

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Speaker 12: Now at the moment we're ten. When in the region

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Speaker 12: we also have Horror foran Noah being part of us,

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Speaker 12: so that mags up the ten so cavity down through

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Speaker 12: and up, but all of the wire wrapper Greater Wellington

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Speaker 12: Regional Council and Horror for Noa.

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Speaker 16: That's ten.

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Speaker 24: That's a lot.

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Speaker 12: Of people, more than half a million. It's a lot

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Speaker 12: of water reform for stormwater, water and sewage, so it

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Speaker 12: is a big package. We hope to hold the ten together.

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Speaker 12: Two groups are saying, well, we'll work with you up

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Speaker 12: a certain point and if the numbers look too scary,

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Speaker 12: we might go with someone else. The reality is we

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Speaker 12: all have to do something and the government's made it

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Speaker 12: very clear if we don't come up with a financially

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Speaker 12: sustainable package that our community can afford, they'll do it

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Speaker 12: to us.

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Speaker 7: So there is.

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Speaker 12: Momentum as a local body election next year. And of

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Speaker 12: course the other thing that we've asked for is not

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Speaker 12: just the extension of time to put together the package,

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Speaker 12: but more time to implement it. The government suggesting we

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Speaker 12: have to do it within ten years. The numbers are

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Speaker 12: too big for our communities to afford over ten years.

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Speaker 2: See what the government says upon receipt of the letter.

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Speaker 2: Good to catch up. Don't Kerry Printer gast with us

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Speaker 2: this morning, Mike. The non tradable inflation is the number.

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Speaker 2: That's the incompetence number. I eat the councils. I've got

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Speaker 2: my own council story. I don't know whether I want

870
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Speaker 2: to bore you with it, but I may or may

871
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: not in the next half hour seven twenty one. My

872
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: cost will breakfast Amy Shark in for a song and

873
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: a chat after eight o'clock this morning meantime at seven

874
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: twenty three. Executive Summary. The executive summary changes little of anything. Firstly,

875
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: it is not the full report. We paid for the

876
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: full report. The full report is about being transparent. The

877
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Greens can't claim transparency and honesty when they played dumb

878
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: games like the ones they are at the moment. Secondly,

879
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: it sort of doesn't matter. It says what it is

880
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: claimed it says, and so in that sense it's not

881
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: really the story anymore. The original story was whether Darlene

882
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: Tana was not what she claimed to be. The report

883
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: answered that seeing the written evidence, as we can now

884
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: apparently doesn't change the crime, does it, even though Tanna

885
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: disputes bits of it. Sadly, her foray into the public

886
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: are light this week on the Telly has not served

887
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: her remotely well. She, as far as I could hear,

888
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: basically babbled and blustered and made literally no sense whatsoever,

889
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: leaving me with the impression she must be a nightmare

890
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: to deal with at the best of times, and God

891
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: knows what it's like to buy a bike from him. Anyway,

892
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: This is the point either. The point is she's an

893
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: interloper who may well have the brass neck to try

894
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: it on and turn up at Parliament next week and

895
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: tough it out. Which is the real story. What did

896
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: the Greens do? And given the answer to this point

897
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: is nothing, they are the real criminals are pleading and

898
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: asking her to quit hasn't worked, isn't working, probably won't work.

899
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: But think about this. Is it a tactic? Is it

900
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: a tactic that gets them out of actually doing anything?

901
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Is this for both parties a cake and eat it scenario?

902
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: Tana hangs in there until we all get bored, so

903
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: she's on the pigs back for the rest of the term,

904
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: accountable to no one. The Greens huff and puff do nothing,

905
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: hoping we also forget. But if and when we don't,

906
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: they can huff and puff some more, saying exasperatedly, who

907
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: we asked to resign? But she wouldn't. The Walker laws,

908
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: of course solve all of this, but they're so hoisted

909
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: by their myopic thinking on it they don't want to

910
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: embarrass themselves any further, even though it is the right

911
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: thing to do. They're also not off the hook on

912
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: the candidate selection Having a one stop are you a nutter?

913
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: Will you embarrass? His clause is not enough to safeguard yourself,

914
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: as we've seen time and time again with this lot,

915
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: they actually have to, oh, I don't know, dig ask

916
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: a few questions. So if Tana's skin is thick enough,

917
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: she collects the money, passes go and laughs at us

918
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: and the Greens well, surely if this is them at

919
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: their most decisive, Chloe's dream of overtaking Labor is about

920
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: as well thought through as their candidate selection process. Asking

921
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: coll for you, Mike, actually I'll do this one first.

922
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued about darling Tana possibly going to the Maori Party.

923
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: Do they not have vetting standards? Do they do you

924
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: just have to be Maori and you welcome with open arms. Well,

925
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: I suspect the answer that is yes. But let's see one,

926
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: does she stal or does she go in parliament? Two

927
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: if she stays as she independent or goes to the

928
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: Marray Party, and some of those questions will then be answered.

929
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: Cee and in just moments ago claiming they've got the

930
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: first poll, we had another one. We had a morning

931
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Console poll out post assassination. This is a Routters Zipsos

932
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: poll out this morning, once again national and really things

933
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: haven't moved. Pre debate, Trump with two plus points up.

934
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: Post debate he was tied, which is remarkable. So what

935
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: that poll is suggesting is post the debate, you saw

936
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: the debate, you saw Biden freeze, but suddenly, like Biden

937
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: more so, the gap closes. Explain that you can't. Now

938
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: for Monday and Tuesday, the polling has Trump plus two.

939
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: The really important polling I am led to believe, and

940
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: this is democratic funded polling. And this is where this

941
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: letter that I told you about earlier on came from.

942
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: In the states that count these swing statue, Wisconsin's of

943
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania's Trump is winning out by a mile. And that's

944
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 2: what they're really starting to freak out about power bills.

945
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: We're into those well electric key. We are no longer

946
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: taking new customers. The reason they're doing that is because

947
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: they are you, the marketers. We'll have a look at

948
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: this and get your details in a moment.

949
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show you can trust the Mic Hosking Breakfast

950
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen

951
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: seventy three used TOGSDB should give you.

952
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: The read after the announcement yesterday on inflationist what the

953
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: banks think the Reserve Bank will do and it's all

954
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: been shifted. Of course, Quibank ASB are the most bullish.

955
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: I think I'm right and saying A and Z are

956
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: the only ones who've actually moved on their interest rates

957
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: because they've got the lowest number in the among the

958
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: majors in the one year eighty month to year three

959
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: year and floating at the moment. But I don't think

960
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: the others have moved since yesterday anyway, Kiwibank, I think

961
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: the cuts are coming by Christmas or earlier. If data

962
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: continued to show calling A and Z. They're going to

963
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: pull for their expectation. They think now November it was February.

964
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: Westpac sticking to November asb the most bullish or aggressive

965
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: if you like. They think twenty five points November would

966
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: be the quote unquote bare minimum. All the remaining OCR

967
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: decisions of the twenty four period are effectively live. So

968
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: they're talking August and cut could come as soon as

969
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 2: next month. I don't think that will happen, but that's

970
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: what they're saying. So we watch them wait twenty two

971
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: to way. What do you bring in? Do we know

972
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: by wave and inst.

973
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 9: The rumor is a guitar?

974
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: I like a guitar. What if she brings in a

975
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: three piece? Plean, You've got to plug it all in joy,

976
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: They're going to do your headed. The number of artists,

977
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: it will all be in the book one day, The

978
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: number of artists who have turned up at five to

979
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: eight and gone. I've just got a trombone and a

980
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: drum set and a keyboard and if you could just

981
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: sort that out in three and a half minutes in a.

982
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 20: Double bass double bass here, we'll just get in there

983
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 20: and no worries.

984
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: So Amy Shark if she just brings in a guitar

985
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: as premise she'll be invited back. Others have never come

986
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: back again, never been seen from heard from. Here's a

987
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 2: sign where the power market's at electric key. We've closing

988
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: their books to new customers right and near the electricity wall.

989
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: They blame the electricity authority in the Comments Commission for

990
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: allowing what they call market failure. The wholesale price is

991
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: to blame the chief executive Blinko is with us on this.

992
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: Look very good morning to you.

993
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 23: Good morning, Mike.

994
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: We have been here before. Will we be here again?

995
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 25: Well, you'd like to think not, but it would appear

996
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 25: based on the regulatory failure that has continued probably for

997
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 25: the last ten years at least, hard to see it

998
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 25: getting better without some real urgency around intervention.

999
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: If I ring the Commerce Commission right now and so

1000
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: do you reckon there's market failure and power, would they

1001
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: agree with you or not?

1002
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 25: I think they'd give you a fairly measured answer, Mike,

1003
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 25: but I think they would have to admit that there's

1004
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 25: there's strong indications of issues in the market.

1005
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 23: For sure.

1006
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: What you need to be as a gen Taylor, don't you.

1007
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 25: Well right now that seems to be the case, but

1008
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 25: that's not how it should be. You rightly point out

1009
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 25: that we rely on markets to deliver efficient outcomes for

1010
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 25: what is actually essential service. But when you've got distortions

1011
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 25: in that market, you get inefficient outcomes. And that's what

1012
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 25: we're seeing now with a forty eight percent increase in

1013
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 25: wholesale energy prices in the last six months. Now, we've

1014
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 25: heard inflaced good news on inflation yesterday, but things like

1015
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 25: this won't help.

1016
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: But on the wholesale and correct me if I'm wrong.

1017
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: The reason that the wholesale price goes up is because

1018
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: we don't have enough rain, or we don't have enough dams,

1019
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: or we don't have enough windmills, or we haven't burned

1020
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: enough coal. I mean, that's what boils down to, isn't it.

1021
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 25: Yeah, which relates to the build of capacity. Right, So

1022
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 25: of our capacity today, eighty five percent of it was

1023
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 25: built before privatization, So the current incumbents and here it

1024
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 25: at eighty five percent of that capacity. The incentive to

1025
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 25: build more is fairly muted by the strong incentive to

1026
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 25: keep supply tight and the existence of market power to

1027
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 25: allow them to do that. So you know, I don't

1028
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 25: think it's any coincidence that once the Tea ideal was announced,

1029
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 25: a whole lot of preconsented developments suddenly came out of

1030
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 25: the got dusted off and came off the shelf. So

1031
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 25: there's a real incentive for the generators and the ability

1032
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 25: to use market power to keep supply tight. And that's

1033
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 25: really the number of this issue.

1034
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: But Onslow was also curtailing matters, wasn't it. At the

1035
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: end of the day, the government was going to be

1036
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 2: sinking sixteen billion dollars into something. Why would you invest

1037
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: in anything now that that's gone they can.

1038
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 11: Well.

1039
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 25: I think Teaway's probably had a bigger impact. I don't think,

1040
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 25: you know, Onslow was necessarily even that far advanced for

1041
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 25: people to be nervous. And we haven't seen any new

1042
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 25: players really emerge at any scale since the closure of Onslow,

1043
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 25: and you know, in the meantime, we haven't really built

1044
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 25: anything else. So it comes back to incentives.

1045
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: Might as much as you want to run a good

1046
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: business and be successful and God bless you in doing that,

1047
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: aren't there enough in the market, be they gen Taylors

1048
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: or not. Aren't there enough people in the market without you?

1049
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: For us to be broadly as consumers happy enough. I mean,

1050
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: yes it's expensive, and yes we'd like to pay less

1051
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, but it's not like the market

1052
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: short of actual people who can supply mepower.

1053
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 25: Well, what it comes down to, Mic, is the long

1054
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 25: term is the short term trade off. The role of

1055
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 25: independence really is to keep good down with pressure on

1056
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 25: consumer prices through competition. If you don't want competition, then

1057
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 25: you don't really have a market, do you. So we

1058
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 25: do rely on a market, so you actually do need

1059
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 25: players like us who are actually more efficient at retailing

1060
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 25: than the incumbents who cross subsidize their retail businesses, which

1061
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 25: are hopelessly inefficient. So in the long run, all you'll

1062
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 25: end up with as massively higher prices once you lose

1063
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 25: that that level of competition.

1064
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: I admire your pluck and I wish you well. Luke Blinko,

1065
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: who's the electric key we ceo with us this morning? Mic,

1066
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: if you ring the Comments Commission right now, you'd be

1067
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: on hold for seventy minutes years probably true, eighteen minutes

1068
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: away from eight pasking you're very sorry for sin Lay.

1069
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: Maybe it's my affinity to the country and the dairy

1070
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: industry or maybe my affinity just with the economy generally

1071
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: and trying to find people who are doing okay at

1072
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: the moment. Sin Lay Milk is at one of them.

1073
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: So yesterday they announced they've abandoned their readings guideline completely.

1074
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: We were last week one hundred and thirty million dollar

1075
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: loan which we've been building up to. They had the

1076
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: vote on that and they said, yes, we'll take that.

1077
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: Bright Dairy, who owned a chunk of that company, is

1078
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: leading them one hundred and thirty million. How they dig

1079
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: themselves out of this whole, I don't know. I hope

1080
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: they do, and there are brighter people on the job

1081
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: than me doing it. They paid down some debt that

1082
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty millions helped them out for now,

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00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: but they don't know where they're going. They're looking at

1084
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: accelerating volume growth. Terrific thing to say. How realistic is that.

1085
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: They're optimizing cost once again, that's business buzzword, is a

1086
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: real operational performance. They're improving that call, get on with it.

1087
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: So they were meeting last week and got that loan through,

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00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: paid off some debt. But the dairy price is the

1089
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: dairy price, and their problems are their problems, and I

1090
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: just don't know what's changed. I mean, the vote on

1091
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: the loan a lifeline, and when you abandon your guidance anyway,

1092
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: all we can do is wish them well. Seventeen to two,

1093
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: make Costume Breakfast, thirteen away from Mike. I believe that

1094
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: about seventy five percent of supplies are put in notice

1095
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: to leave the company. I don't know whether it's seventy

1096
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: five Steed, but we've done interviews on the program before

1097
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: and you're you know, there's a lot of people looking

1098
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: to leave Mike about half of supplies, So you can

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00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: see that there's a movement that you go, I'll tell

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00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: you what. When the contract's up, I'm out of there.

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00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: So once again you feel bad for them. By the way,

1102
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: a little bit of ev news. There's a couple of

1103
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: really interesting things happening at the moment. The EU had

1104
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: a vote it doesn't count, and I won't go into

1105
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: the boring detail as to why it doesn't count, but

1106
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: they will eventually get to a vote that does count.

1107
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: The interesting thing about the vote that doesn't count is

1108
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: there's a dozen countries and this is to do with

1109
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: tariffs on Chinese cars. So what they're all Chinese evs,

1110
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: and there's a big scrap between China and the EU,

1111
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: China and the US at the moment over whether too

1112
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: much government money from China is going into these car companies,

1113
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: thus making the price artificial, so when they go into

1114
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: the marketplace, suddenly you're undercutting everybody else and no one

1115
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: else can compete. That's the suspicion. So they had a vote.

1116
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: But the problem, the counter problem for especially the Europeans,

1117
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: is a lot of the countries who were voting have

1118
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: car companies who are deeply embedded in China your BMW's urlities, etc.

1119
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: And so in the vote that doesn't count as a

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00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: whole bunch of countries who said, actually, no, we don't

1121
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: like these tariffs on China and will pass thank you

1122
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: very much, to which everyone went, what what are we

1123
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: going to do now? Also yesterday GM announced to the

1124
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: world that their plan to build a million evs in

1125
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: America this year isn't going to happen because no one

1126
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: wants to buy an EV. What they also announced then

1127
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: this morning was their uping production of a thing called

1128
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: a Cadillac Escalate, which has a V eight and is

1129
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: very expensive. It's about three hundred thousand plus New Zealand dollars.

1130
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: It's as hoping that the market people want engines, they

1131
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: don't like evs. Then you come to a story I

1132
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 2: stuggled upon yesterday in this very country, Kia have taken

1133
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand dollars off there EV nine, the top

1134
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: of the line. EV nine is now thirty five thousand

1135
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: dollars cheaper than it was the day before. So once

1136
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: again I remind you if you'd wandered in and this

1137
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: is not the bag that one Kia or anybody else,

1138
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm just just giving you the market. If you'd gone

1139
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: into Kia a week ago and gone and tell you what,

1140
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: I have one of those EV nines, thanks very much,

1141
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: And they charged you one hundred and whatever, one hundred

1142
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: and thirty six thirty seven thousand dollars. And you're waking

1143
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: up this morning and suddenly it's thirty five thousand dollars less.

1144
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: What do you think has happened to the value of

1145
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: your car? Then, purely by accident, I'm looking through cars

1146
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: yesterday I see advertised at the moment and this is

1147
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: just an example. The one I stumbled across a twenty

1148
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: twenty four in other words, a brand new our Dee

1149
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: Tron GT. Now, as far as EB goes, they're okay.

1150
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: They're a sporty ish looking car. They're a fine car,

1151
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: very expensive car. Normally they are three hundred and four thousand,

1152
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety dollars.

1153
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 9: Three of the money you save on petrol.

1154
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Three you've got to save all on money on petrol

1155
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 2: to pay for that three out or fourth undred ninety

1156
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: dollars brand new car, really available to be picked up. Now,

1157
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: what do you reckon? They've knocked off the price just

1158
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: to tempt you into an EV. They've taken off eighty

1159
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars. Let's call it ninety. Shall we see

1160
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: me dealing with the currency, Sam, let's call it ninety.

1161
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: They've taken off ninety thousand dollars off a new car

1162
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: to convince you to buy an EV.

1163
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 20: Do you know how many of my cab precisely that

1164
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 20: I drive right now, I could buy just for the

1165
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 20: ninety thousand dollars Sam, that they could they've taken off it.

1166
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 9: It's quite fun. And then it's quite fun, is the

1167
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 9: whole bullying Sam thing.

1168
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: It's become a thing, and it's very very popular.

1169
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, Sam Fi, is it fun?

1170
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: Have we made it into a podcast yet?

1171
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 9: Oh we haven't.

1172
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: Let's make it into a podcast. Nine away from eight,

1173
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: the mic.

1174
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: Hosty Racist is with the Januar News tomb of.

1175
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 2: The Republican Convention. Trump's just had us walk through four

1176
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, so that's another day's worth of It's been

1177
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: interesting to watch. Mind, you've got to be a bit

1178
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: of a wonkluck meus post. Seven away from it looks

1179
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: like changes arrived in the marriage market as well, more

1180
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: and more of us apparently eloping. So what's driving this

1181
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand dream wedding zoner? Donna Dohy is with us

1182
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: on this. Donna, a very good morning to you.

1183
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 24: Good morning.

1184
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: Isn't elopement different from what I think it is? Is

1185
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: an elopement to me is two people who just sitting

1186
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: there having a cup of coffee one day and going,

1187
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, let's bugger off to Belle Cluther

1188
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: and get married. And so it's not an event per se,

1189
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: or has that changed?

1190
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 24: It's changing, right?

1191
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: So what is it now today?

1192
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 24: Well, they're putting more thought into it, so they're now

1193
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 24: wanted more adventure, so they will contact the wind Tennis

1194
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 24: say look, we want to elope, can we go somewhere

1195
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 24: remarkable and we just planted and sometimes they'll have their

1196
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 24: mom and dad. We do up to about six people

1197
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 24: for the elightenments.

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00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: Why why is that called an elopement, not a wedding,

1199
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: just a small wedding.

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00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 24: Honestly, I don't know. It's always been called elopement.

1201
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: What's driving this? Is it money?

1202
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 24: No? I think it was the COVID lockdown, the pandemic.

1203
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 24: People actually sat there and actually thought about their life

1204
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 24: and what's really important, right, because that's when the changes

1205
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 24: really hurt.

1206
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: And having one hundred and twenty people, ninety eight of

1207
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: whom you don't even know orli like all that much.

1208
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: You don't need that narm more in your life.

1209
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 24: No, definitely, And they don't want people at their winning

1210
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 24: They don't know. It's about the couple. It's about what

1211
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 24: they're wanting today.

1212
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: That's good. So you don't want your parents driving you. See,

1213
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: you got this tricky thing. Did do some parents still

1214
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: dip in or help out their daughter's wedding costs?

1215
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 17: No?

1216
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 24: Not that I'm finding as the couple themselves.

1217
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: Ah So what about the other side of the equation?

1218
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: When you sat down during COVID as a couple and

1219
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: you went, you know what, I'd rather travel. I'd rather

1220
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: have a deposit for a house I don't want it?

1221
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: Is that driving it as well?

1222
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 24: Definitely. We've had couples come from England over to New

1223
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 24: Zealand and they have said that they can come over here,

1224
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 24: having a lightment, a honey moon, all their travel costs

1225
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 24: and still have money left over for what it would

1226
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 24: cost for a wedding back there.

1227
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: So it's really at the end of the day, it

1228
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: is about money, isn't it And surrounding yourself with the

1229
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: people you know and love as opposed to you know,

1230
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: the white How's it affected your business because I'm sure

1231
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure you'd rather organize a wedding for six thousand.

1232
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 24: No. I love the personal wedding. You lose touch when

1233
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 24: you have a large wedding. That's what I found personally.

1234
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 24: That's why I do the small weddings. It's more intimate,

1235
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 24: it's more fun, it's more stress free and relaxed, and

1236
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 24: it's all about the couple.

1237
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent, And is business generally booming or are the

1238
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 2: couple's going down that next track, which is we don't

1239
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: need to get married officially in any way, shape or

1240
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: form at all. We just lived together.

1241
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 24: No business has fun to boom.

1242
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: Good good, Well, I'm pleased to hear it. Donna go

1243
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: well with that, Donnadhi who is the New Zealand Dream

1244
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: Wedding z owner? The Times they are a change news

1245
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: for you in a couple of moments. By the way,

1246
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: I've been meaning to get to this. Read the League

1247
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: last night. Mike, what genius at New Zealand Rugby League

1248
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: got rid of McGuire as our national coach? Jerry? I

1249
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: from memory, I don't think anyone got rid of him.

1250
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: I thinking when he got given the job as you

1251
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: know coach of where he is at the moment, I

1252
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: don't I think he said he couldn't do both jobs

1253
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: and he left of his own volition. So I don't think.

1254
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's music. I think he could blame

1255
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: Jim Mugby League on that Amy Shark song. In a

1256
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: chat after the news, which is next here of news talk, said.

1257
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: B What big news, Bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

1258
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: with Alveda, Retirement Communities, Life your Way news talk, said B.

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Speaker 26: Caught in the moment.

1260
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 27: Midnight in the room, my breath and her.

1261
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 26: God taking my I'm just a girl. There's gone nothing

1262
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 26: to lose.

1263
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: In a seven minutes past eight. Let's chat and sing

1264
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: along with Amy Sharks. She's here for her new weld

1265
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: Sunday Sadness, which is out next month. Her last two albums,

1266
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: by the way, we're number one in Australia. She's an

1267
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: eight times ARIA winner. She's performed there, written songs with

1268
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: trappers Barker, d Shere and Keith Urban and Coldplay. She's

1269
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: also judge on Australian Idol and she is, well, it's

1270
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: lovely to meet.

1271
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 26: You, hi, and nice to meet we.

1272
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 2: Haven't we been having the best time at the best time.

1273
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's not true. I mean you've got to

1274
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: say that stuff now. But the story is, and I've

1275
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: got to share the story Waikawa Bay. My grandparents, years

1276
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: and years and years ago, and this isn't the Marlborough

1277
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: Sounds used to have a batch and we used to

1278
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: go there as kids and it was the one of

1279
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: two houses in Waikarawa Bay. And so I'm telling Amy

1280
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: about the story boring at witless and we were talking

1281
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: about the country, and then she goes, well, my husband

1282
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: Shane is from Wellington, and I go does he like Wellington?

1283
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: She goes, no, he likes Nelson and the Marlborough Sounds.

1284
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: And you carry on with the story because all you

1285
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: was a man with a batch.

1286
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 15: I as soon as you said Wakawa bay, I just

1287
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 15: remember because we've caught a lot of snapper at the

1288
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 15: at Shane's family's batch in the Marlborough Sounds, And that's

1289
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 15: the sign that is behind all the shots because it's

1290
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 15: on this little tree facing the ocean and it's the

1291
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 15: same bay of every bay in the Sounds where.

1292
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: Your husband's family owns her back.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, it's been in the family for like, you know, generations.

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01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: Has it really? So that part of the story you

1295
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: didn't tell me off here, So that's entirely possible that

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Speaker 2: that that's the second house in the bay next to.

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01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 26: My Not much, not too much has been done to it.

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 15: Shane's dad's builder, so he's kind of he's kept the

1299
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 15: bones of the place, but you know, like things have

1300
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 15: come a long way, like toilets and showers and cookers

1301
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 15: and stuff. So but it's still very batch like. It's

1302
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 15: not bougie at all. It's like you're going. It's you're

1303
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 15: going out in the sticks and it's the best.

1304
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: It's not bougie. So your success is interesting because when

1305
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: I first looked you up yesterday in terms of being

1306
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: thirty eight years old, I thought, well, hold on, where

1307
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: have you been? So you've You've been about the place,

1308
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: working hard. When you achieve what you've now achieved is

1309
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: the journey and this ties into your job at Australiannidol.

1310
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: Is the journey and the success that that brings worth it?

1311
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 2: And do you reveal in it now?

1312
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 26: Yeah?

1313
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 15: One, I think I do it more so than anyone

1314
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 15: who maybe had a bit more luck and success early on.

1315
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 26: I think I like I.

1316
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 15: I revel in it more because it's like it just

1317
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 15: took me so much longer, and I know how hard

1318
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 15: I worked for it, so it's I don't take it

1319
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 15: for granted, no, And and everything's really exciting for me

1320
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 15: still because like you know, I didn't get signed till

1321
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 15: I was like thirty and everyone I feel like I

1322
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 15: feel like I've done so much, Like I really went hard.

1323
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 15: The second I got signed, thing my whole life changed.

1324
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 26: I had some how that did really well.

1325
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 15: I got to do some awesome stuff and only just

1326
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 15: now am I starting to be like, ah, this is great.

1327
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 15: I'm actually comfortable in doing things I like and I've

1328
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 15: got this sort of I've got a great team who

1329
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 15: lets me do and make the music I want to make,

1330
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 15: and it's it's fantastic.

1331
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 26: I still love making music. It doesn't feel like a job.

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: You know, what's the listen out of that? Then, in

1333
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: the sense, if you have talent, you will get there,

1334
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: or if you have talent, you might get there, or

1335
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: you just don't know.

1336
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 26: It's kind of got to be.

1337
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 15: I don't know if you've ever heard of the word dama,

1338
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 15: But if people find their dama, which is something that

1339
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 15: they are passionate about and happen to be good at,

1340
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 15: that's when I think it'll happen. Like I think if

1341
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 15: you do something and if you have the hard conversations

1342
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 15: with yourself, like am I any good? Because that's what

1343
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 15: people have to do, and not many people do. They

1344
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 15: just want they just want what the outcomes of the job.

1345
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 15: Whereas you know, if you're like, have that conversation, you're like, no,

1346
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 15: I'm good. I know I'm good and I love it

1347
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 15: and I'd do it for free. And if you just

1348
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 15: keep doing it, I feel like and if you say

1349
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 15: true to who you are, eventually, yeah, I think that's

1350
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 15: a higher possibility. It's just got to all line up

1351
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 15: and be for all the right reasons.

1352
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So juxtapose that to Australian idol and this whole

1353
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: reality television thing is just that I want. I want

1354
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: to be famous pleased if I could, that'd be awesome.

1355
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: Do you do you offer advice to these people or

1356
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: is this just a brilliant outlet to instantly trajict to

1357
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: yourself to somewhere you want to.

1358
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 10: Be or what?

1359
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 15: I think it's different now and because you know, if

1360
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 15: you asked me to be a part of this show

1361
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 15: even five years ago, I would have been like, absolutely not.

1362
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 15: I didn't. I never went on those shows. I never

1363
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 15: could even fathom the thought of it. But now, music

1364
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 15: is it was so inundated with artists and people who

1365
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 15: think they're artists and people who write bedroom music and

1366
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 15: I'm not knocking them, but it's like, there's so much

1367
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 15: talent now and there's so many creatives. So I see

1368
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 15: it as a I've seen so many brilliant artists come

1369
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 15: through that platform, and I think it's actually smart now

1370
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 15: to set them aside.

1371
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 26: You know, anything you.

1372
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 15: Can do to kind of cut through, you then have

1373
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 15: to tackle it a really different way, which I've seen

1374
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 15: as be very clever and tricky about how they navigate

1375
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 15: through Australian idol to still have their integrity and be

1376
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 15: taken seriously.

1377
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 26: And it's just so different now, you know.

1378
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Travis Barker and working with him, tell me about.

1379
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 15: Him, just the most loveliest, is the easiest person really

1380
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 15: because he doesn't look like it.

1381
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 26: Out of all the guys he was. I mean, Mark

1382
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 26: was like so.

1383
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 15: Mark was the first member of Blink Onne two that

1384
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 15: I worked with, and that was just a trip for

1385
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 15: me because they're my favorite band of all time, you know,

1386
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 15: since I was like fourteen.

1387
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 26: So Travis he heard what I.

1388
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 15: Did with Mark, and then one day I was on

1389
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 15: Twitter and I had a message from Travis saying, if

1390
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 15: you ever want some beats and if you want me

1391
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 15: to drum on a track stop. So I kept him

1392
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 15: in the back pocket for the next album and honestly,

1393
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 15: I just sent him the song and he was so accommodating.

1394
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 15: He you know, he sent a couple of trap beats.

1395
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 15: I'm like, it's too trappy, sent a couple of like

1396
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 15: sort of organic stuff and I was like, too rocky,

1397
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 15: and we found this awesome balance.

1398
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: Trapping.

1399
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 26: It wasn't it was not It was not easy.

1400
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: It was like I.

1401
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 26: Said to my producer, maybe we just make it work,

1402
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 26: you know. But he was so accommodating.

1403
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 15: He kept writing to me saying, hey, if I try this,

1404
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 15: if this, if this is too you know, too trappy

1405
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 15: and too rappy, and and it was done within like

1406
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 15: two days, and he, you know, he was just so

1407
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 15: this was before Kardashian World, so he had a bit

1408
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 15: more time. But it was just epic and it was

1409
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 15: so great with the video, and yeah, it was a trip.

1410
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: The album that's not out till next month. Quick preview

1411
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: any good?

1412
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 26: Oh it's okay? Yeah, yeah, I'd give it a listen.

1413
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 26: Give it a listen.

1414
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: What is the song you're going to play for us

1415
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: after the break from the album. It is very exciting. Yeah,

1416
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: and you've got your guitar, and God bless you because

1417
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: we have so many artists who come in here and

1418
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: just bring some accouterments and endless hangers on with instruments

1419
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: and they expect us to plug it in in three

1420
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: and a half minutes. You've brought your guitar, and you

1421
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: brought your voice.

1422
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 26: Keep it simple, keep it simple more.

1423
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: In a moment fourteen past.

1424
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: Eight, the Mike Hosking Breakfast US.

1425
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: Talks EB seventeen minutes past eight, do you want some feedback?

1426
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: Text has just come in. I'm a big fan of

1427
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: who's already and I haven't even heard of sing Cheryl.

1428
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: I love you, Cheryl, yep, exactly, I love you too, Cheryl.

1429
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 2: Here's my next problem. I've got to get you to sing.

1430
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: But the guitar. She has a guitar. This is all

1431
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: being videoed, so go go to the website and have

1432
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: a look. That guitar, apart from being beautiful, is made.

1433
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 26: By Russell Crowe.

1434
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: Right, So I said, what a beautiful guitar? Is that

1435
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: a three quarters side? She goes, yeah, Russell Crowe made

1436
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: me this one. I said, what was that?

1437
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 26: What I sound like?

1438
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 11: No?

1439
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no it was. It was a bad impersonation.

1440
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: But you see, so Russell crow because the New Zealander,

1441
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: of course, don't let them tell you he's astraight, and

1442
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: you realize his New Zealander.

1443
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 26: We claim him like we claim Lord, we claim all

1444
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 26: your people?

1445
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: Does his family have a batch at Waywa Bay.

1446
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 26: I don't know that much.

1447
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: Who knows, but what a beautiful guitar. Why would he

1448
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: make you a guitar.

1449
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 26: We've become really good friends. Like we played tennis.

1450
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 15: I played tennis with him and his girlfriend and my

1451
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 15: Shane and I and we I don't know how this

1452
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 15: has happened, That's what I mean. You know, I was

1453
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 15: telling you I get to do this cool stuff.

1454
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 2: Saying it's you know, literally for you, Russell rings and

1455
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: guitar for you.

1456
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 26: It's a silly job.

1457
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,799
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1458
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 26: It's crazy. But I'm very appreciative.

1459
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: Well that's very good. We're appreciative of you being here,

1460
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: so so so hit the Russell? Do you call it

1461
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: the Russell?

1462
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 26: Actually I do now thanks to you. It's called the Russell.

1463
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: Hit the Russell? And what are you playing?

1464
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 15: By the way, it's called two friends And I haven't

1465
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 15: warmed up, but I'm just gonna.

1466
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 26: You go in there. You'll be brill with thirty nine seconds.

1467
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 11: I wanted.

1468
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: You're a judge on Australian All yeah, exactly what are

1469
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: you doing on Australia? You bust someone out when it's

1470
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: no good? Is that what you're doing.

1471
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 15: No, you just work, you navigate your nose and yes's

1472
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 15: and it's it's really hard.

1473
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, well I'm going to be your Australian New

1474
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: Zealand idol. Judge right, I'm not gonna look at you

1475
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Amy Shark.

1476
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 11: M just had a crazy flashback of a night where

1477
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 11: you were saying words that we know weren't right, and

1478
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 11: I feel like things never been the same between us.

1479
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 26: Who gives it?

1480
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 27: Damn we made our I like everyone who asked me

1481
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 27: about that night, and you try to play cool cuckoo choo.

1482
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: Maybe we could.

1483
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:07,480
Speaker 11: Find a nice place somewhere in the middle of secrets

1484
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 11: and love.

1485
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 27: Maybe there could be a little romance between friends who

1486
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 27: are falling in love. And maybe you could stay at

1487
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 27: my place. No one's ever a home, man, I'll lock

1488
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 27: up the gate. I wish we could tell the whole

1489
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 27: world two friends who are fallen and fallen in love.

1490
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 11: Today was just one of those days.

1491
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 27: What a bitch, just to think I gotta wake up

1492
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 27: and do it all again, and you're all stressed out,

1493
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 27: don't know.

1494
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 28: Who to trust?

1495
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 27: Is everyone gonna find out about us?

1496
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 13: I don't know.

1497
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 27: I don't care, and I don't regret one second of it,

1498
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 27: So let's try to play it COOLO, who could choose

1499
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 27: my baby? Maybe we could find a nice place somewhere

1500
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 27: in the middle of secrets and love.

1501
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 28: Maybe there could be a little romance between friends who

1502
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 28: are falling in love. Maybe you could stay in my place.

1503
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 28: No one's at home. Then I'll lock up the game.

1504
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 27: I wish we could tell the whole world to friends

1505
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 27: who were falling and falling in love.

1506
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 9: Heo hoo.

1507
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 20: To.

1508
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 28: Sarah told Becky, and Becky told Tigan and Tea and

1509
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Speaker 28: told see.

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 19: It's friends with Crystal, and Crystal told Sally, Sally loves

1511
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 19: Daniel and Daniel told Katie and Katie flipping hates me,

1512
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 19: Sarah told Becky, Becky told Tigan, Teaking told so Sophie,

1513
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 19: and Sophie stands with Crystal. Crystal told Sally and Sally

1514
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 19: loves Daniel, and Daniel told Katie and HATI hates me.

1515
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 26: Maybe we could find a nice place. So we're in

1516
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 26: the middle of secrets and love.

1517
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 27: Maybe there could be a little romance between friends who

1518
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 27: were falling in love.

1519
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 26: Maybe you could stay in my place.

1520
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 27: No one's a whole man'll.

1521
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 26: Lock up game.

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 28: I wish we could tell the whole world to friends

1523
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 28: who were falling and falling in love.

1524
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 21: Whoa go.

1525
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 27: To friends who are falling falling in love?

1526
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: You can come back next week.

1527
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 26: Thank you very much.

1528
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: Round lovely to meet you and talk with you. Go well,

1529
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: good luck with the old and good luck with the

1530
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: two later on this year. Nice to see.

1531
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 26: Thank you so much. Thanks for the chout.

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Speaker 10: Are you me?

1533
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: Shark eight twenty three.

1534
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Speaker 1: On my Costel Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News Talk sivvy.

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Speaker 2: A twenty six Good feedback, Mike, pretty frickin' good far out.

1536
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: That was beautiful, Thank you Nick, best yet love it gorgeous.

1537
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: You can definitely hear the Blink influence and Amy's voice

1538
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: and style wonderful, beautiful picking and fabulous voice with elements

1539
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: of Alana's Morris sette. Wow, that's her voice. Since Hobby's

1540
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: from Wellington, can we claim her as a key we

1541
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: fair point? She's awesome. Mike Magic interview so down to

1542
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: worth and new music is so easy. Listen to make

1543
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: sure you have her on your show again please I

1544
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: think we will, James, So I appreciate your feedback. Some

1545
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: scandal is brewing or has brewed and has been brewing

1546
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: for a while in Wales, and the first Minister, and

1547
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: if you follow Welsh politics, and who doesn't, the first

1548
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: Minister's been there for about three and a half minutes

1549
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he's.

1550
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 14: Had to quit.

1551
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 2: Rod Little all over this, and of course the King's

1552
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: speech overnight as Keir Starmer outlines what he's going to

1553
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: be doing over the next five years. Rod Little after

1554
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: the News, which.

1555
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Speaker 23: Is next.

1556
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and views. The Mike Hosking

1557
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Jaguar The Art of performance news.

1558
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: Talks had been well Amy Shark feedback, Mike, why can

1559
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: people like Amy do that? And people like me can't

1560
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: cooker canna beans without burning them? And that Chris is

1561
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: the rich tapestry of life. I'm afraid, Mike. Why does

1562
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: fog at Auckland Airport only stop internal flights not international?

1563
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: Glen's very good question. The answer is ILS or instrument

1564
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: landing system. They're mainly the domain of the big commercial

1565
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: airliners and so therefore that's why the domestic flights means

1566
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: nothing stopping you're putting one on. But I'm assuming cost

1567
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: prevents the most smaller or domestic flights don't have them,

1568
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: so the ils will get you through the fog Jetstar

1569
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: which I'm uming doesn't. One of the flights delayed this

1570
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: morning is a flight to Sydney. So it depends whether

1571
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: the planes and the big planes tend to have it

1572
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: and the smaller planes don't, is your answer?

1573
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 17: Twenty three to nine, International correspondence with Insneye Insurance Peace

1574
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 17: of Mind for New Zealand business.

1575
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 14: Wouldn't we go? Roderick?

1576
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: A very good morning to you, my friend.

1577
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 23: Good volunt So.

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01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: Having watched a bit of the King's speech, I noticed

1579
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: he snapped at a page boy, thus once again reincurring

1580
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: the wrath of the wider world that he's a little

1581
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: bit grumpy. There were thirty there were thirty nine bills.

1582
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: What did we get out of it? What did we

1583
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: learn about the Labor Party and the way they're going

1584
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: to run the country?

1585
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 23: I think we've learned that quite a contraire to what

1586
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 23: some of the right wingers were worried about prior to

1587
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 23: the election day, which is that actually we were ushering

1588
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 23: in an extremely left wing party which was going to

1589
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 23: tear the country apart with its taxes and with its

1590
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 23: with its wokeism that actually they've restrained themselves quite a

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01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 23: bit from that position. Indeed, one of the first things,

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 23: for example, is that in the manifesto there was a

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 23: commitment to lower the voting age to accomnable. There was

1594
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 23: seventeen or sixteen, to be honest, Mike, the year sixteen.

1595
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 23: It could well have been six. You know, the left

1596
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 23: wing worldwide, of course wish for voting ages to be

1597
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 23: reduced because younger people tend to vote for the left.

1598
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 23: That's not quite true in parts of Europe, but it's

1599
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 23: true in Britain, and I think it's true in New

1600
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 23: Zealand as well. And there was none of that. What

1601
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 23: you saw instead was a kind of a program of

1602
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 23: pragmatism about getting Britain building building houses, investing in an

1603
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 23: industry and nationalizing the rail companies, all of which frankly

1604
01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 23: plays very very well with the electorate. I don't think

1605
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 23: it was a bad king speech at all.

1606
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: The pound I noticed in a one year high based

1607
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: on the fact that they see stability in a labor party.

1608
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: Who would have thought the market likes labor.

1609
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 23: Well, you would think the market likes labor if you

1610
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,520
Speaker 23: had endured the last six to eight years of Conservative

1611
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 23: rule because at least there is a degree of continuity,

1612
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 23: which is what markets like, and markets always markets also

1613
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 23: disliked disruption, which is of course, of course what you've

1614
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 23: got with Liz Trust when she became the Prime Minister

1615
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:40,919
Speaker 23: and in the space of forty nine days wiped billions

1616
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 23: of shares and ensure that you know, no one was

1617
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 23: ever doing about later Conservative again for a very very

1618
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 23: long time. So I think that's exactly it, Mike, what

1619
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 23: you're saying, which is the King speech put forward a

1620
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 23: platform which was purely man teer reel, which was kind

1621
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 23: of corporate, and which was absolutely in line with what

1622
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 23: the markets would like, and it left out all the

1623
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 23: stuff which people have been jumping up and down and

1624
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 23: saying they're going to do this, They're going to do that.

1625
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 23: None of that happened.

1626
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at things like the Crime and Policing Bill,

1627
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: the Terrorism Protection of Premises Bill, the Victims, Courts and

1628
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: Public Protection Bill, a border security, asylum immigration bill. Do

1629
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: they run the risk of coming unstuck on some of

1630
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 2: the stuff you might think a left leaning government would

1631
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: be a bit soft on, in other words, leading prisoners

1632
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: out of jail and too many boats arriving on the shore.

1633
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: Despite the fact that they allegedly promised to fix it on.

1634
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 23: The crime and justice, I think they have a degree

1635
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 23: of leeway, which is that, without question, the Conservative government

1636
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 23: over the last six to eight years hasn't concentrated its

1637
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 23: mind to attention on what we're doing with our prisoners

1638
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 23: and where they're meant to live. So you could only

1639
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 23: go along so far by saying it was all the

1640
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 23: tourries fold, but actually probably on prisons, it is the

1641
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 23: tourists fole. And you know what they're what they're planning

1642
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 23: to do is is actually by by by Labor Party standards,

1643
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 23: quite right wing, which is saying that foreign offenders who

1644
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 23: have been sentenced to prison will be deported back to

1645
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 23: their countries. Well good, you know that is a that

1646
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 23: is a populist thing to do. I think they will

1647
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 23: come into trouble, into into a great deal of trouble

1648
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 23: on migration, which was one of the kind of slightly

1649
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 23: hidden issues in the last election. In the election two

1650
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 23: weeks ago, they do not have a plan for what

1651
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 23: to do with the immigrants who are coming over in

1652
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 23: boats from the Channel. They say they're going to fight

1653
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 23: the traffickers. But we were all fighting the traffickers, you know,

1654
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 23: under the Tory government. It happens.

1655
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 2: Give us a quick word on on Wales. Vaughn Getting

1656
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 2: is gone. He's only been in the job about three

1657
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 2: and a half minutes. How big a scandal is this?

1658
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: And two is there a snap election?

1659
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 23: I don't know if it's a snap election, won't getting

1660
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 23: Getting was utterly hopeless. And what we've seen over the

1661
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 23: last two or three months is the repealing or the

1662
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 23: rowing back on a number of proposals which and enaction

1663
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 23: enactments which Getting put forward. They are in real trouble

1664
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 23: in Wales, much as they have been previously ten or

1665
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 23: twelve years ago in Scotland, that they have a captive

1666
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 23: population which has finally worked out that there've been no

1667
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 23: use whatsoever over their entire tenure, and Getting is an

1668
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 23: exemplar of that. What happens next will be interesting, being

1669
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 23: interesting to see it as an election. It will be

1670
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 23: interesting to see who the Labor Party puts forward because

1671
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 23: us one of the biggest things which Richie Sunak have

1672
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 23: to go on during that last election was if you

1673
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 23: want a labor government in Great Britain, look at what

1674
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 23: they've done in Wales. And in Wales the National Health

1675
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,480
Speaker 23: Services worse than it is in England, worse even in Scotland.

1676
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 23: There have been loads of virtue signaling Green Agenda stuff

1677
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 23: limiting drivers to driving at twenty miles per hour which

1678
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 23: has just been repealed this week, and crime policing all

1679
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 23: worse than England. So it's been a litany of catastrophe

1680
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 23: for what was quite a left leaning labor government in Wales.

1681
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 23: And here's my guest, Mike. I think that Kerstarmer is

1682
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 23: probably rather glad that get things.

1683
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 14: On the way out.

1684
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Good on your mit, you have a good weekend, well

1685
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: look forward to on next Tuesday. Rod Little in the

1686
01:21:54,160 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: UK sixteen to nine. Away from my material, it's for

1687
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: sky City this morning. This has been ongoing and it's

1688
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: been a dispute between the Department of Internal Affairs, who

1689
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: made an application to the New Zealand Gaming Commission a

1690
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 2: while back to suspend sky City's license because they identified

1691
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: failings in their host responsibility program. That's the bit we've

1692
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 2: known about. So they've withdrawn that this morning based on

1693
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: the fact that they've cut a deal or a deal

1694
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: or an arrangements has come to be agreed to and

1695
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: sky City listen to this, have agreed to close it's

1696
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: sky City Auckland casino for five consecutive days. So I

1697
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: mean the material impact is I would imagine it's enormous

1698
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: for what it's worth. The hotels, the restaurants, the bars,

1699
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: the skytower, all that sort of stuff. So if you

1700
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: want to do a bungee jump off the sky tower,

1701
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: don't worry. That'll still be open. But the gambling floors,

1702
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 2: the gaming floors will be closed for five days. That

1703
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 2: is that is quite the arrangement, Callum Mallett, who runs

1704
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: the place. The failings are significant. The company is rightly

1705
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: rightfully being held to account failed to protect people from

1706
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: gambling harm. Their chair guy called Julian Cook, says, the board,

1707
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: the executive, the entire team are wholly committed to doing

1708
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: better and building back trust. But when you've landed yourself

1709
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: on that level of trouble, that are trust to build back?

1710
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: Speaking of trust, consumer New Zealand, answer me this one.

1711
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's easy pickings for them. This morning they're

1712
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 2: packing once again on Air New Zealand. Can you pick

1713
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: on air New Zealand? Is it easy to do so?

1714
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: Do lots of people do it. Yes, you do. If

1715
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to fill up the text machine, just let

1716
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: that I go. Hey, tell us about the time you

1717
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: felt you got ripped off when you booked an airtaket. Right,

1718
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: that's the end of the beginning, of the middle and

1719
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: the end of that. So everyone can pick on Air

1720
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Their claim consumers this morning is they went

1721
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: and compared fares for eleven Air New Zealand flights in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four and their equivalent

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Speaker 2: flights taken from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one. In

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Speaker 2: other words, prior to COVID, all flights bar one more

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Speaker 2: expensive three or four years later anywhere between thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent and two hundred and ninety seven percent. Now thirty

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Speaker 2: four When you're talking something from twenty nineteen to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, we all know what's happened to inflation. Forget

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Speaker 2: whether you like here in New Zealand or not. Everything

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Speaker 2: I would argue has gone up at least thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent in the last four or five years. Two hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety seven percent not so much. But here's one

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Speaker 2: of their examples. A flight for a family of four

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Speaker 2: from Sydney to Palmerston North. Not exactly one of the

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01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: main trunk operators. It's not London to New York, is it?

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01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: So a family of four Sydney to Palmeston North. Now,

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Speaker 2: prior to COVID, it was going to cost you thirteen

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two. Today it's thirty four hundred and

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01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: fifty one dollars. So that, come on, how long abode

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Speaker 2: do you want to draw on that?

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Speaker 14: One?

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Speaker 2: Better example? Christ Church to Dunedin return with five weeks

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Speaker 2: lead in time, So back in twenty twenty that would

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01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: have cost you one hundred and twenty three bucks. Last

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01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: year it would cost you three hundred and forty four

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01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: almost three times as much. Wellington to Dunedin two people,

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: one bag four hundred and eighty seven dollars in twenty

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01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: twenty nine hundred and seventy dollars. So there's no question

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01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: the price has gone up. What they're looking to achieve

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01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: by this, I don't know, because Air New Zealand will

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 2: come back with a well, yeah, have you seen the

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01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: price of jet fuel? Have you seen the price of labor?

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Speaker 20: Have you seen how many people are wanting to go

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01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 20: from Sydney to Parmerson Northeast days.

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Speaker 2: The Parmas of North Sydney route has just gone off.

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Speaker 2: I mean the capacity demand, we just can't match it.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think they're talking about the brain drain from

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01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 20: Sydney to Parmaston north over there.

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01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: No one's made that link until just now, nine minutes

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The my Costle breakfast with a Feeder Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs V.

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Speaker 2: One of the issues of the age is there's always

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: a new story at the moment about increasingly cunning scammers

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01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: taking advantage of vulnerable New Zealanders, whether that be through

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: you know, calls, text emails, fake websites, all that stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: A and Z, in partnership with Age Concerned New Zealand

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01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: are encouraging all keywis to be on patrol force scams

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01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: these days, and we're not doing it alone. From the

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01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: from the eighties television show you might have seen this

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 2: Chips Frank Ponchalo and John Baker, they're bringing old school

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01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 2: justice to modern day scams. So what's happening? This is

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01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: a nationwide invitation to write along while learning how to

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01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 2: be more conscious, alert and aware of scammers. So what

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: does this mean. It's very important to remember that you've

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01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 2: got the right to Here's what. You've got the right

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01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: to ask questions when contacted by somebody. Be cautious of

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01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: any investment opportunity, hang up on anyone asking for urgent

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01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: transfers of money, and of course, be suspicious of unsuspected calls, text,

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01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: or emails. And A and Z encourages you to test

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01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: your scam knowledge on their new Scam Academy web page.

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01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: The web pages as follow as you're really an Z

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01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: dot co dot in z forward slash scams A in

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Speaker 2: z dot co dot in z forward slash scams psking,

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Speaker 2: We've been a time to deal with this in the

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01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: last couple of days, but I'm looking at the other

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01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 2: boot camp they're going to be starting shortly the boot camps.

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01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Is this is this urgent or not?

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Speaker 11: Really?

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01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: Okay? So you just walked in here to interrupt the

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01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: program for no particular reason. Brings a piece of paper

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01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: in and I'm thinking, right, breaking news, breaking news.

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01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 20: See nobody had to know this, no, but we we

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01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 20: were just making sure that the piece of paper he

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01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 20: brought you before was the correct piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: He's bringing me the same piece of paper you've already

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01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: given made.

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Speaker 9: But we did not know that for sure. We were

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01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 9: just chicking, and you've made a big thing about it.

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Speaker 9: Now I was, and now you look.

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01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 2: Like that anyone, like an incompetent, unprofessional can's right.

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01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 9: So you did it to yourself.

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: And one of the things they teach it broadcasting school

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01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: very early on is should a person at the last

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Speaker 2: minute Russian with a piece of paper, under no circumstances,

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: do you panic and alert the audience to it because

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01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: it could be serious breaking news and look for the

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01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: sting and go directly to your technical director, thinking, oh

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01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: my god, what's happening now, because it could just be

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01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 2: an idiot producer who comes in with a blank piece

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01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: of paper has already given you five minutes away from nine.

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01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 7: Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 2: So Rishie has suddenly turned out to be human, lost

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01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 2: his job, the power of the state, the pressure of

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01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 2: running the place. Suddenly you can loosen up and be

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01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: a bit normal that This was part of a speech

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01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: in the Commons following the King speech.

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Speaker 29: If I may offer some words of advice to members

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 29: opposit on the Government benches, Life comes at you fast.

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01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 29: Soon you might be fortunate enough to be tapped on

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Speaker 29: the shoulder and offered a junior ministerial role. Then you'll

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Speaker 29: find yourself attending cabinet, then in the cabinet, and then

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Speaker 29: when the prime minister's position becomes untenable, you might you

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Speaker 29: might end up being called to the highest office, and

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01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 29: before you know it, you have a bright future behind

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01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 29: you and you are left wondering whether you can credibly

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Speaker 29: be an elder statesman at the age of forty four.

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Speaker 2: And you love him. That's delightful, and I wish more

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01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 2: people would learn that. Listen, be yourself in the more

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01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 2: difficult times. He there was a rumor he's moving to California.

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01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 2: He's not. He says he's going to spend the summer

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Speaker 2: watching the cricket of Lord's, so good luck to him.

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Speaker 2: I was building up to the boot camps, and I've

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01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: got the list of what they'll be doing on the

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01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: boot camp. It's been around for a couple.

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Speaker 9: Of days, but we were't supposed to call them boot camps.

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Speaker 2: Or the academies. My apologies the academies. The academies have

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01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: got the details on the academies and they're getting up

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01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 2: at six thirty in the morning. How are you going

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01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: to straighten somebody?

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01:28:58,800 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 10: Use?

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01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: If you're getting up at six point thirty in the morning,

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01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: why have a sleep? And some of us get up

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01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: at two o'clock in the morning. Look where it got us.

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01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: It got us all insuy w and people run into

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01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 2: the studio and we don't know what's happening next. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 23: At six.

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Speaker 26: Fear like Gus

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