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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with our Veda, retirement, communities, Life, your Way,

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Speaker 2: He'd be welcome today. Roads go cycle ways are not

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Speaker 2: the government's transport billions. New study shows University of graduates

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis is in for the PM this morning. Luke

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Speaker 2: colmb's the man Who's taking country music to stadium all

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Speaker 2: over the world redefined its popularities with us from Nashville

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Speaker 2: after Right, Catherine Field as in France, rore littled as

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Speaker 2: the UK.

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Speaker 3: For as well.

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Speaker 1: Pasky Welcome to the day.

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Speaker 2: Seven past six. The letter from the energy industry yesterday

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Speaker 2: got less coverage than the call last week for a

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Speaker 2: bipartisan approach to begin for structure. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: what that means. Did the media not notice the letter,

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Speaker 2: or did they notice the letter and not think promoting

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Speaker 2: a bipartisan approach was useful or have we given up basically,

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Speaker 2: given last week's call fell apart, basically the moment got

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Speaker 2: think at least part of the lesson is that it's

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Speaker 2: easy to call for a bipartisan approach, which is what

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Speaker 2: the energy uses they're asking for, and indeed offering a

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Speaker 2: Charging the energy crisis. One party that thought a sixteen

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Speaker 2: Trouble with this country? Like America as we come at

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Speaker 1: News of the world. In ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Lecture this morning, being part of the Israeli Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: Are now back here outside in plans ministry, and this crowd,

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Speaker 2: Now families of the dead hostages are conducting funeral.

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Speaker 4: If there was something we could have done to save

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Speaker 4: you and we didn't think of it, I beg your forgiveness.

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Speaker 1: We tried so very hard, so deeply and desperately.

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Speaker 2: Adams Waden's president.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's time for her Prime Minister let

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Speaker 6: Could do more on the Do you think he's doing enough?

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Speaker 2: In the UK cutting weapons export licenses.

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Speaker 7: There's certain UK arms exports to Israel, there does exist

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Speaker 2: Also in the UK, Lucy Conne leaves a councilor in

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Speaker 8: The stuff a hair on the TV is not really Lucy.

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Speaker 8: She's probably the opposite of what she's having to commit to,

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Speaker 2: And then too the Tory leadership contest, can we bednock

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Speaker 1: Labor had no ideas.

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Speaker 9: At best, they are re announcing things we have already done,

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Speaker 2: Finally, there's a scrap over the Olympic rings in the

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Speaker 2: A lot of people, including heritage campaigns of course, are

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Speaker 2: that is News of the World in ninety second UK licenses.

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Speaker 2: This came from David Lammy just a couple of hours ago.

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Speaker 2: remember it's a new government. A labor government takes a

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Speaker 2: joy my wealth Andrew calla hurt, good morning, very good bonding.

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Speaker 2: My giving some interesting insight yesterday into the retirement sector

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Speaker 3: Yes, so look the New Zealand reporting season that's come

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Speaker 2: So we'll go to Israel. Tell Abeva after seven o'clock

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Speaker 11: This innocence is gone by the cruel hand of monsters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then we come to the States, and I've

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Speaker 12: On Labor Day and every day, we celebrate the dignity

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Speaker 9: We celebrate unions.

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Speaker 3: Because unions helped build America.

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Speaker 2: I was a bit lucky yesterday I got to see this.

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Speaker 2: I've already seen it. It's not out till next Friday,

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Speaker 2: it's a can't miss, it's a won't miss Amazon. They've

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Speaker 2: the Grand Tour, One for the Road.

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Speaker 7: Never thought that what we do together would would go

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Speaker 8: That's still a bastard after all these years.

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Speaker 11: We don't all have to go to the same old

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Speaker 9: He said, he's deleting our numbers.

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Speaker 2: Friday week thirteenth. That'll drop on Amazon in this country.

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Speaker 2: a twenty ten minutes away from seven's Ath France, But

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Speaker 2: Is too good with me. The trouble with a booming

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Speaker 2: Make funny thing. Kind of a good problem to have,

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Speaker 2: Do we have any understanding of it? Because unemployments up,

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Speaker 14: And according to our Business Canby's most recent quarterly survey

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Speaker 14: So look, it is a challenging situation. We need to

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Speaker 2: No, we're not. And when you talk of that, do

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Speaker 14: Yes, I think we would would have certainly not unique

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Speaker 6: So you know those two.

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Speaker 14: Things need to go hand in hand with things like

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Speaker 2: Do you have any sense so you need twenty three thousand,

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Speaker 14: So it'll be interesting just to see exactly how that

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Speaker 2: Always good to have you on the program and good

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Speaker 2: put in the crime component. As bizarre as that may seem,

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Speaker 2: crime once again cost them five million dollars. The investment

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Speaker 2: in security measures last year five million dollars. You can't

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Speaker 2: be a success all business when you've got that sort

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Speaker 2: of problem. Hopefully, what we've been hearing in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of months as regards the beat and of course

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Speaker 2: numbers slightly but surely fixing that up seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B morning Mike Train School leavers works for me, mentored

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Speaker 2: by experienced people. About twenty five percent of these young

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Speaker 2: people in my civil company. That's good to hear. After

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Speaker 2: seven we've got an interesting insight a different end of

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Speaker 2: the spectrum, I guess, but graduates from university feeling increasingly

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Speaker 2: unconfident that they're going to land decent work in this country,

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Speaker 2: and what work they get isn't paid particularly well, so

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Speaker 2: they're all heading offshore, which is part of that bigger

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Speaker 2: picture and ongoing problem. So we'll have more on that

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Speaker 2: for you shortly fourteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business in France.

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Speaker 2: Captain Field, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: We need to look at Germany because that result was fascinating,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. The AfD successful. Where do we go and

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Speaker 2: how shaken are the three parties that run the country.

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Speaker 5: Well, they are very shaken.

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Speaker 4: The Greens, the Liberal Free Democrats and the Social Democrats

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Speaker 4: in Germany who have been that federal coalition for several

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Speaker 4: years now, are really shaken. This whole election. You know,

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Speaker 4: it was projected if I knew this was going to happen,

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Speaker 4: but the ruling parties had hope that their efforts to

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Speaker 4: just sort of convince the electric in eastern Germany that

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Speaker 4: these anti establishment, fiercely nationalistic parties were not the way

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Speaker 4: for Germany to go. They nevertheless have come.

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Speaker 5: Through on a federal level.

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Speaker 8: Mike.

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Speaker 4: It really does show how unpopular. The current chancellor is

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Speaker 4: his current standing the polls, he's got about a seventeen

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Speaker 4: percent approval rating across the country, is something like seventy

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Speaker 4: four percent of the electric fields. He's not handling the

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Speaker 4: migration crisis at all.

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Speaker 10: Well, so you're.

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Speaker 4: A real slap in the face for the federal government, Mike. Also,

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Speaker 4: because these parties in the East go so much against

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Speaker 4: what Germany has been about for the well ever since

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Speaker 4: the end of the Second World War. Really, these parties

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Speaker 4: are very nationalistic, very Russia friendly, and they do sort

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Speaker 4: of question whether this sort of pro Western orientation that

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Speaker 4: Germany has is the right one.

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Speaker 2: You and Neva, because they were regional elections, if all

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Speaker 2: the regions had had elections, would the result have been

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Speaker 2: reflected or was this region specific?

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Speaker 4: It's regions specific. I mean, you have to look at

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Speaker 4: these two regions during Yura and Saxony, there counts for

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Speaker 4: about seven percent of the entire population. So, if anything, Mike,

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Speaker 4: it does show that Eastern Germany, particularly in that corner

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Speaker 4: of Eastern Germany, that they do have a different way

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Speaker 4: of looking at the political scene. They have a different

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Speaker 4: idea of how the country should be developing. It's always

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Speaker 4: been that way, you know, in that eastern part of Germany.

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Speaker 4: It's a part of Germany that feels so far away

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Speaker 4: from the center of power. Even back in the days

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Speaker 4: of East and West Germany, it felt so very far

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Speaker 4: away from the center of many of the major population centers.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of politics, he has Macron got anything sorted out?

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Speaker 4: Dere I ask that, no, he hasn't figured this out.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, you were always one going on about numbers.

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Speaker 4: Twenty five percent of the French electorate still say they

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Speaker 4: approve of having Emmanuel Macron as the president, so his

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Speaker 4: ratings are still up there. I'm twenty five percent isn't

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Speaker 4: bad for a French president, But you know, seventy three

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Speaker 4: percent say this new parliament, this new government that has

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Speaker 4: the government that's been going to come in, isn't going

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Speaker 4: to be able to get anywhere. Yes, we're still waiting

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Speaker 4: for a prime minister. There's been lots of comings and

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Speaker 4: goings today. When we spoke last week, I said that

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Speaker 4: people weren't really that interested. Well, it's back to school time,

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Speaker 4: everyone's back at work now, holidays are over, and people

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Speaker 4: were looking to Macron to come up with some sort

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Speaker 4: of name. Today who knows. My we might get one tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: but it certainly seems more like a you know, a

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Speaker 4: very slow horse race than the sort of fast economy

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Speaker 4: we're all hoping France had become.

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Speaker 2: I will be asking next Tuesday, this woman Hill Dargo,

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Speaker 2: who's the mayor of Paris, and it's it's my decision

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Speaker 2: and I've done a deal with the IOC. Is that

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Speaker 2: the sort of person? How's that all going down?

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Speaker 4: That's exactly the sort of person she is, mate, She's

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Speaker 4: one of the most divisive mayors that Paris has had.

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Speaker 4: She since believe that it's her decision, her decision only

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Speaker 4: to keep the Olympic rings up on the Eiffel Tower

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Speaker 4: once the Summer Games are over, forgetting, of course, that

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Speaker 4: it's a national monument. It is something that the state

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Speaker 4: actually decides what's going to happen. And I think most

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Speaker 4: people that you know, I've seen interviewed about have been

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Speaker 4: talking about saying, yeah, you know, it's a good idea

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Speaker 4: to have the Olympic rings on the Eiffel Tower, but

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Speaker 4: you know, we have to move on. And the Olympics

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Speaker 4: was really just for Paris. It made France feel good,

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Speaker 4: But the Olympics has been, it's gone, move on, get

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Speaker 4: on to something else now. Of course, the other thing

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Speaker 4: is the particular those five rings that are on the

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Speaker 4: Eiffel Tower at Climent will have to come down anyway

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Speaker 4: because they're too heavy. They're not good for the infrastructure

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Speaker 4: of the whole of the Eiffel Tower, so they're going

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Speaker 4: to have to come down. They would need to put

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Speaker 4: new ones up again, which is much lighter. So the same, listen,

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Speaker 4: just move on, let's all feel good about the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: And as there's always a cased Mike. The French have

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Speaker 4: gone and interviewed some of the descendants have good stuff,

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Speaker 4: I feel, and they've all said, no, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: not the place. It's not really there for advertisements or

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Speaker 4: anything in particular permanently. They just take it away just

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Speaker 4: so as everyone can see the beauty of the Eiffel

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Speaker 4: Tower and how it lights up at night. But of

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Speaker 4: course some other people are remembering that for what more

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Speaker 4: than a decade they used to have a Citron advertisements

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Speaker 4: up there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, we'll catch up next week. Appreciated

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Speaker 2: as always. Cares an interesting thing in Germany. I'll come

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Speaker 2: back to it in just a couple of moments when

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Speaker 2: the AfD say they won, did they more? Shortly nine

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Speaker 2: to seven.

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Speaker 1: Gel breaker is with Bailey's real estate news talksby Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So here's the interesting thing. So two areas. Forget the

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Speaker 2: areas there the one area that the AfD did particularly well,

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Speaker 2: and this is builders in Holland all over again. So

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Speaker 2: second were the CDU at thirty two percent, but the

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Speaker 2: AfD won. The co leader of the AfD, a woman

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Speaker 2: called Elis Vidal. Federally, the AfD are running second, which

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Speaker 2: is interesting in itself. She says, this is a requiem,

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Speaker 2: wonderful word, a requiem for the three parties running Germany.

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Speaker 2: But back locally, here's your issue for the AfD. Like

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Speaker 2: builders in Holland, CDU won't touch them. So they need

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Speaker 2: the CDU to form a government. Well they can, they know,

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Speaker 2: So they've won the election, but they can't run the place.

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Speaker 2: So what's the point five away from seven?

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Centric Darta. Back home on the economy snapshot, the consumer

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Speaker 2: rears continue to drop. This is the light at the

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Speaker 2: end of the tunnel. Stuff. This is good stuff. July.

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Speaker 2: Number of people behind on payments is now four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty six thousand, down nine thousand.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 2: Number of people who are more than ninety days over

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Speaker 2: dues also improved by six percent year on year. Good.

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Speaker 2: The continued drop on the interest rates. It's the Reserve Bank,

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Speaker 2: it's Marbo, it's Adrena or all of that. By now

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Speaker 2: pay later. The areas have dropped slightly. Energy payment areas

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Speaker 2: have gone up a little bit to ten point one percent.

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Speaker 2: That's not good. We're panicking about the power, and rightly so,

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Speaker 2: because it's a cluster. Mortgage areas are down a bit.

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Speaker 2: Our mortgage loan application inquiries down are one point five

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Speaker 2: percent year on year, so not bull of yet. The

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Speaker 2: applications year on year, month on month. I suspect they're

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Speaker 2: probably starting to rise. Residential mortgage areas are back to

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen levels one point four one percent, so that

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Speaker 2: tells you things broadly back to normality. Consumer credits down

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Speaker 2: three percent, car loan demand down twenty two percent, because

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Speaker 2: why would you unless you have to. There's been an

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Speaker 2: increase in financial hardship cases. They're up slightly to thirteen

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Speaker 2: thy eight hundred and fifty, which is hardly anyone really,

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Speaker 2: I mean in a country five maybe thirteen thousand, eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to nine. So is that not too bad?

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Speaker 2: Not too bad? Twenty six point six percent still year

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Speaker 2: on year in increase, so in other words, it has

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Speaker 2: been bad. If you annualize the numbers out it still

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Speaker 2: looks bad ish. But I think as we look to

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Speaker 2: these increasingly new numbers month one month, we're starting to

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Speaker 2: see the as I say, the light at the end

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Speaker 2: of the tunnel. Liquidations though for businesses, and this is

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Speaker 2: because they're a late to the party. It's a late

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Speaker 2: to the party sort of number, they're up nineteen percent

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Speaker 2: year on year, so people are still feeling the pain there.

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Speaker 2: Transport's been the worst. Tip to faults are up eighteen percent,

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Speaker 2: property business to faults are up twelve percent. In construction

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Speaker 2: are up some fifteen percent. So that gives you a

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Speaker 2: snapshot of where we at. So I think overall, by

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, I think we're going to

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Speaker 2: be feeling slightly better about ourselves. But we'll ask Nikola

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Speaker 2: Willis about that, because she's doing the business for the

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Speaker 2: Prime ministers up in Malaysia. I have news on that too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, before the day is out, look combs

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Speaker 2: for you after eight on the mic hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakers, the newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 1: like for my costing breakfast with Bailey's re state your

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Speaker 1: local experts across residential, commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 2: Had been seven past seven. So I look at where

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Speaker 2: a shed load of money is heading towards and transport infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Over the next handful of years, thirty three billion dollars

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Speaker 2: is to be spent more roads and maintenance, less on

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Speaker 2: cycle ways. Transport Minister Simon Browns with us a very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I think New Zealanders are sick and tired of the

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Speaker 2: amount of money going into cycle ways. Have you got

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Speaker 2: evidence of that or not.

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Speaker 6: We campaigned on building the building and maintaining our roading

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Speaker 6: network and reducing the amount of money going into cycle ways.

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Speaker 6: People voted for that and that's what we're delivering.

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Speaker 2: One thing to announce the dollars. Do the dollars buy

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Speaker 2: you what you need?

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Speaker 6: Yes, And that's a big focus. It's not just about

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Speaker 6: the money, it's about the delivery. And as we've talked

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Speaker 6: about before, that's where we've got the targets around the

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Speaker 6: road maintenance. That's why we're focused very much on getting

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Speaker 6: rid of those roadblocks, actually getting construction underway, fast tracked, consenting,

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Speaker 6: Crispink's working on reviewing the public work sex so we

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Speaker 6: can have more get projects started more efficiently quickly. And

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Speaker 6: also there's a huge amount of work going on in

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Speaker 6: Dytaw to get back to basics around the standards and

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Speaker 6: make sure we have greater standardization of design because we're

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Speaker 6: so good as a country to design every single bridge differently,

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Speaker 6: adding cost and complexity which we don't need to. For example,

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Speaker 6: pen Link, they're building a new bridge there. It's a

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Speaker 6: bridge that's never been built in New Zealand before. It's

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Speaker 6: delayed the entire project. So getting back to basics, standardization,

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Speaker 6: fast track, consenting, all of those things are about actually

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Speaker 6: getting projects delivered on time and within budget.

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Speaker 2: Are they on board with that or do they just

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Speaker 2: say they're on board with that because in another hat

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Speaker 2: you've seen the pushback from councils. Are they buying into

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Speaker 2: what you want or not?

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Speaker 6: Or dt are And we're obviously going for a process

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Speaker 6: replacing board. We've put sign bridges in, there's the chair.

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Speaker 6: We've put a bunch of engineers on the board as well.

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Speaker 6: That's all about making it very clear that this is

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Speaker 6: the government's priorities and they are to respond to it.

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Speaker 6: And at the same time we're making very clear in

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Speaker 6: terms of the focus areas that we want to be

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Speaker 6: focused on. So, yes, they are responding. In every single

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Speaker 6: week we continue to ensure they are responding.

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Speaker 2: Do you know once you put all this stuff in place,

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Speaker 2: what you will be getting efficiency wise in terms of

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Speaker 2: being for buck or we're still not there yet.

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Speaker 6: Well, what we know is I mean, if you look

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Speaker 6: through the National Land Transport Program outlines for thousands of

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Speaker 6: kilometers of roads that are going to be resealed and rehabilitated,

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Speaker 6: there's seven roads of national significance which identified for works

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Speaker 6: to start on in the next three years.

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Speaker 2: Oh y know, I know that not the announcement. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about actually being able to do it, do it

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Speaker 2: on time, do it efficiently, do it being for buck

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Speaker 2: in other words, the changes you are making, do you

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Speaker 2: know they will pay dividends?

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Speaker 6: Well, yes they will, because ultimately this is about getting

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Speaker 6: the results the taxpayers expect, and we are making sure

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Speaker 6: that there's clear reporting coming through to me as the Minister,

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Speaker 6: which I can then use to hold the management and

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Speaker 6: the board accountable for those results. And ultimately, at the

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Speaker 6: same time, the message to the construction sector is, and

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Speaker 6: I made when I spoke at Building Nations last week,

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Speaker 6: we need your assistance to assure we're not gold plating

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Speaker 6: infrastructure and you're taking a no frills approach so that

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Speaker 6: we can have affordable infrastructure here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Goodnight. I appreciate your time, So I mean round Transport

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Speaker 2: Minister another time, another place. It's worth asking, isn't it

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Speaker 2: who thought that building a bridge that no one had

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Speaker 2: ever built before was an exercise worth undertaking?

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Speaker 15: Do you want all the bridges to look exactly the

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Speaker 15: same and be no frills?

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Speaker 2: Well, given the current saint yes would be my answer,

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Speaker 2: Lego at ten past sevens Now, internationally, they're on the

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Speaker 2: streets of Israel, as we've told you this morning after

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Speaker 2: the bodies of those six hostages were recovered at the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Netanyahu and his government are accused him not

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Speaker 2: doing enough to reach a deal. The strikes are gaining

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Speaker 2: real momentum. Political analyst or Goldberg as well It's from

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Speaker 2: Tel Aviv morning.

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Speaker 10: Good morning to you mate.

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Speaker 2: Given this has been going on for a while and

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Speaker 2: I've just been watching netanyahuo defend himself once again. Has

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Speaker 2: the pressure or does the pressure this time round feel

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Speaker 2: different on him?

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Speaker 10: It does. It seems to be more intent, and it

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Speaker 10: seems to be less sectorial. There seems to be a

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Speaker 10: real popular outrage against the government because now Israelis feel

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Speaker 10: that the government's incompetence is risking their lives.

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Speaker 2: When he asks for forgiveness, as he did just a

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Speaker 2: couple of hours ago, does he get it or not?

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Speaker 10: Oh, he really doesn't. I think he's held responsible. He

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Speaker 10: has diehard supporters, think of the MAGA base in the

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Speaker 10: United States, for whom he can do no wrong, But

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Speaker 10: the country does not like him. They may support his policies,

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Speaker 10: they may not see an alternative to his war, but

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Speaker 10: they definitely consider him to be incompetent and riddled with

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Speaker 10: corruption and personal interests.

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Speaker 2: And the general argument that he's keeping this going for

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Speaker 2: political purposes is that the view generally of people in Israel.

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Speaker 10: Do you think, well, I don't know if people really

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Speaker 10: think he's doing it for political or that means personal reasons.

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Speaker 10: But they definitely don't trust his judgment. They do, however,

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Speaker 10: understand what he's doing in the sense that no other

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Speaker 10: politician has offered an alternative to his war. So a

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Speaker 10: lot of them are saying, well, you know, if he's

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Speaker 10: the one who started this war, and he's the one

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Speaker 10: who's led it, no one else appears to be offering

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Speaker 10: any kind of different vision, let's at least vote for

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Speaker 10: the source rather than pick some pale imitation.

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Speaker 2: Has the mood changed in Israel? I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: cut a deal to what extent, yes, you get some

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Speaker 2: hostages home, But if you solved the Hamass problem, now,

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Speaker 2: which was the original intent of the war, wasn't it?

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Speaker 5: It was?

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Speaker 10: But one thing became abundantly clear when the six hostages

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Speaker 10: were discovered, and that is I mean, we thought for

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Speaker 10: a very long time that the two goals of the

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Speaker 10: war as defined by the government, destroy Helmas and return

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Speaker 10: the hostages were commensurate and maybe even complimentary. That link

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Speaker 10: has snapped. Israelis now understand that there is an innate

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Speaker 10: contradiction between returning the hostages and quote unquote destroying Famas.

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Speaker 10: More and more people also understand that destroying Famas is

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Speaker 10: an unachievable goal, the price of which will rend Israel

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Speaker 10: a pariah pretty much forever. So the emotional attachment to

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Speaker 10: this war is waning, even though no other political solution

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Speaker 10: has been suggested by other politicians. So most Israelis support

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Speaker 10: this war. But ask them and they will tell you

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Speaker 10: they're doing so reluctantly, if only because nobody has given

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Speaker 10: them any kind of other hope.

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Speaker 2: All right, or I appreciate tom Ori Goldberg out of

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Speaker 2: tell Abig this morning is a guy called Elon Levy,

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Speaker 2: who you may remember his name. He was a government

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Speaker 2: spokesperson for Israel. He got a little bit cantankerous, and

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Speaker 2: they sect him. He's in Australia at the moment. He's

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Speaker 2: accusing Australia of losing the initial moral clarity that it

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Speaker 2: initially showed. But his point is that it's Netnie who's

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Speaker 2: fear of losing power. That explains why he's behaving the

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Speaker 2: way he is at the moment. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: Asking the mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: There's been no condemnation of Hamas on the slaughter of

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Speaker 2: the hostages. Plenty of outrage directed at Israeli leaders. Are

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Speaker 2: you serious? I don't know where you're watching, but there's

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Speaker 2: been no shortage of outrage. Mike Simeon Brown aka Golden

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Speaker 2: Balls has achieved more than nine months in the last

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Speaker 2: government did in sixty years. Mike, people don't vote against

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Speaker 2: cycle ways, and National just panded to an ignorant minority.

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Speaker 2: Under John Key, National set up the largest cycle network

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Simon, you're right, but you're wrong. The

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Speaker 2: cycle network they set up is not the cycle network

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Speaker 2: that you are thinking about. It was the tourist cycle

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Speaker 2: way and they did set that up and it was

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Speaker 2: a very good idea and it's been wildly successful. Most

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Speaker 2: people would argue the downtown cycle ways not so much. Now,

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Speaker 2: seventeen past seven, we got insight from our next batch

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Speaker 2: of university graduates, who, it turns, not only confident about

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Speaker 2: their job prospects. This is a study that says one

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Speaker 2: in five twenty percent are very confident, which I assume

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Speaker 2: means eighty percent not so confident. Talent Solutions director Sarah

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Speaker 2: Wilson is with us on this very good morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: When we say not confident, why would you not be confident?

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Speaker 2: If you go. I mean it depends very much. If

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Speaker 2: you're going to get a med degree or a law degree,

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Speaker 2: You've got a job for life, basically, haven't you, And

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Speaker 2: you should be confident.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, you're exactly right with the introduction. We do

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Speaker 12: have over eighty percent of students emerging with little to

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Speaker 12: no confidence about their job prospects. And look, students are

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Speaker 12: very dialed in to the current economic climate and understand

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Speaker 12: the link that when our economy is in flash then

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Speaker 12: that has a direct impact on the number of job

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Speaker 12: opportunities available. So the key message is that we do

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Speaker 12: need government and industry continuing to invest in programs to

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Speaker 12: develop our young people. And that matters because if we don't,

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Speaker 12: we will continue to lose our young people across Tasman

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Speaker 12: and that will make our businesses less competitive.

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Speaker 2: Do you think with your experience it's any worse than

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Speaker 2: it has been in any other economic downturn or not?

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Speaker 12: Great question. This is the worst level of confidence that

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Speaker 12: we've seen since we asked the question in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 12: We have also seen in this year that unemployment is

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Speaker 12: the number one concern for students, and that was the

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Speaker 12: concern back in twenty twenty when we were in COVID.

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Speaker 12: So look, I think it is certainly worse and we

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Speaker 12: as a country need to be providing opportunities to graduates or.

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Speaker 14: They will leave.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I think something happened during profoundly happened during COVID,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of us got sort of down in

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Speaker 2: the dumps about it, and that would apply I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: to just young people as well. They see a big,

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Speaker 2: wide world and a lot of opportunity in it.

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Speaker 12: Look absolutely, and I think when organizations are facing cost pressures,

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Speaker 12: graduate internship programs can find themselves at the top of

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Speaker 12: the schedule for pruning that. Ultimately, as a country, we

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Speaker 12: need to be investing in young people otherwise they will

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Speaker 12: make the choice to go abroad. We know that Australian

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Speaker 12: salaries are much higher to about ten to fifteen k

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Speaker 12: higher on average than graduate salaries here, so it's definitely

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Speaker 12: something that we need to be investing in as a country.

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Speaker 2: Like you're insight well, then Sarah, appreciate it, Sarah and

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Speaker 2: Wilson talant solutions directly. We'll talk to Nicola Willis about

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Speaker 2: and they're tapped out anyway and can't borrow any more money.

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Speaker 2: Councils remain, if you think about it, one of the

874
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: few operators left who seem to charge on a cost

875
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: plus basis. But the cold, hard and said reality is

876
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: where the poor punter can do virtually nothing about it

877
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: because they are anotoly. The government arrived last week with

878
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: suggested deals whereby if you tone the money grab down

879
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: you can enter into an arrangement with central government for

880
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: funding mechanisms. It also came off the back of the

881
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: Prime Minister, who of course told councils to stick to

882
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: basics and stop the wastage. Now, the trouble with that

883
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: was it went down like a bucket of cold sick,

884
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: indicating one they don't get it, and two it's little

885
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: surprise they don't get it, and that's why so many

886
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: are in the mess they are.

887
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: See.

888
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: I read a piece over the weekend. It was a

889
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: plea really from one beleagued Hawks Bay council who claim

890
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: they have a mountain of work to do and a

891
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 2: debt pile they simply can't afford, and the cold hard

892
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: reality that they are tapped out on debt and can

893
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: borrow not one cent. More So, the OECD figures should,

894
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: of course be a matter of some shame and a

895
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: reason to upping in the way we do business and

896
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: basically get our act together. It won't happen, of course,

897
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: councils are driven by power and delusion and they're in

898
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: the hands too often of the bewildered, the well meaning,

899
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: and the economically illiterate. There can be no other explanation

900
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: as to why so many of them never stop pupping

901
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: the biller, always find more important work to do, and

902
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: never ever want to wake up to the waste that

903
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: they're responsible for in the damage they're doing. If anyone

904
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: else in your life was charging twice what the rest were,

905
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: you'd do something about it. You would feel rightly ripped off.

906
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Things would change, acts would be tidied up. And yet

907
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: any bets here, I don't think so asking We'll just

908
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: ask the simple questions. A lot of news coverage this

909
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: morning about an apology for the Harker in South Africa,

910
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: and so the hark is going on. The plane flies

911
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 2: over and they go, oh, so sorry, I didn't realize

912
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: the apologies coming left for rights and where's the apology

913
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: for the TMO. Why have we forgotten about that particular part, Mike,

914
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: I am sure if you would have seen it. But

915
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: there was an excellent item on three News last night

916
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: regarding the drug industry in this country. It was a

917
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: good insight into what the police are dealing with. There

918
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: have been some very promising signs over the last couple

919
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: of weeks, which we should celebrate and commend our police for. However,

920
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: this is definitely a marathon and not a sprint. It's

921
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: funny you should raise that, and I'd forgotten to because

922
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: I was going to. But it was on TV three

923
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: and it was a fantastic insight and they talked to

924
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Speaker 2: the head of one of the drug operators in terms

925
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Speaker 2: of the police, and what worried me about it was

926
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Speaker 2: the good side was just how effective the police have

927
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Speaker 2: been in terms of infiltrating these guys and closing them down.

928
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: The downside of the story was they've infiltrated and this

929
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: is stuff you've never heard of before. This was I mean,

930
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: I got me yet to the ground on this sort

931
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: of stuff. I'd never heard of half of it. I mean, yes,

932
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Speaker 2: we got the commentarios last week and the Headhunters or

933
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Speaker 2: whoever they were in fifteen million dollars worth of business

934
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: and all he just reeled off list after list after

935
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: list after list of these endless number of groups who

936
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Speaker 2: planted people into the country from offshore, and they've closed

937
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: down ring after ring after ring. The drug business in

938
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Speaker 2: this country is frighteningly large, and it's a good news story,

939
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Speaker 2: but also sadly it's a bad news story.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

941
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Speaker 1: with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way news togs

942
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: had been.

943
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: Luke Holmes out of Nashville for you up to lady

944
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: class this morning. Meantime, the Prime Minister is in Malaysia

945
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: drumming up business, or assume he's drumming up business. So

946
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: plane it's and Minister Akla Willis's weather. It's very good

947
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: morning to you. Good morning mate, the doctor caron McLeish.

948
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Speaker 2: Was she good news?

949
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Speaker 16: Ah, yeah she was. Look, she did a commendable job

950
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 16: for New Zealand through a time of real economic challenge.

951
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 16: She was there for the response to COVID nineteen, the

952
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Speaker 16: response to the cyclone Gabrielle dealing with the cost of

953
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 16: loving crisis, and was instrumental in helping this new government

954
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Speaker 16: deliver on our change of agenda.

955
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Speaker 2: Is she wrong on CGT yes? Is she wrong on retirement?

956
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Speaker 16: Well, look, we have a coalition commitment National and New

957
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Speaker 16: Zealand first that we won't change the age of retirement

958
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Speaker 16: this term. But it's well known the National Party campaigned

959
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 16: on raising the superannuation eligibility age, and we did that

960
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 16: because we simply observe people are living longer, working longer.

961
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Speaker 16: The superannuation bill is getting significantly bigger, and eventually we

962
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Speaker 16: are going to have to do something about it if

963
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Speaker 16: we want it to be sustainable, and I want it

964
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Speaker 16: to be sustainable.

965
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Speaker 2: What's her argument? Do you know around CGT or tax

966
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Speaker 2: in general? She was talking about the basic core debt

967
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Speaker 2: in this country and the problems we have around debt.

968
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Speaker 2: Why are we not talking about growing the economy so

969
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: we don't have to tax people more? Why is it

970
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: always the answer we need to find the money from

971
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Speaker 2: somebody else as opposed to doing better.

972
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Speaker 16: Well, I'm with you. Before we pick people's pockets more,

973
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 16: there's two things we must do. Number One, ensure we're

974
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Speaker 16: actually spending New Zealanders money efficiently, and our found abundant

975
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Speaker 16: evidence since we came in that that is not the case,

976
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Speaker 16: and we are trimming the sales significantly. Second job we

977
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Speaker 16: have is to actually grow the pie so that instead

978
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Speaker 16: of having endless conversations about how we divide what we have,

979
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Speaker 16: we all have more. And that's about ultimately backing businesses,

980
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 16: giving them the confidence to invest high people innovate and grow.

981
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Speaker 16: That's what our government's all about.

982
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So before the news I was talking about the

983
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Speaker 2: OECD report on rates. We rate people in this country

984
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Speaker 2: at one point nine percent versus the OECD average of

985
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: one So in other words, our rates are double. So

986
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Speaker 2: you talk to the people. The primise to talk to

987
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: the people that are the local body meeting last week

988
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: and tells you to get your act. They don't seem

989
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: to have heard that. They don't seem to get it.

990
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: Is that a road block for you generally, that people,

991
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: despite what you would argue, disagree or don't get it

992
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: or both.

993
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 16: Well, it's interesting. I think that message to local government

994
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 16: of actually bring some discipline has been really well received

995
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 16: by everyday New Zealanders and they are giving it to

996
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 16: their local councilors and mayors in stereo, which is actually

997
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 16: when that rate spill comes in and it's several thousand

998
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 16: dollars more than it was last year. It's very very painful.

999
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 16: And then when you have to drive over multiple speed

1000
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 16: bumps on the way home past glorious gold plated cycle ways,

1001
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 16: it doesn't feel very good. And I think that counselors

1002
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 16: need to listen to that or they'll pay it the

1003
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 16: ballot box.

1004
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so then we come to retirement CGT. We've covered

1005
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: off and then we to the pushback. I was talking

1006
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: to Sam and Brown about do you feel that you've

1007
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: got a group of people who just don't agree with

1008
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: what you want and are determined in some way or

1009
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: another and a site I suppose the Maori Wards most

1010
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: of them have voted to go to an election next year.

1011
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: They somehow, for whatever reason, are not going to agree

1012
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: with you and toe the line.

1013
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 16: Well, look, the joy of democracy is there is always

1014
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 16: a diverse range of views. But you know our voter

1015
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 16: turnout rates that local elections are pretty low. And what

1016
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 16: I'd say to New Zealand is is if you don't

1017
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 16: like your rates bill, if you're not happy with the

1018
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 16: decision making your local council's doing, for goodness sake, make

1019
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 16: sure you vote, and make sure that you talk to

1020
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 16: your friends about voting, and don't just vote by thinking

1021
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 16: about it on the day. Have a look at who

1022
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 16: your counselors are, what their track records are, and whether

1023
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 16: they stand up for the things you believe in. Because actually,

1024
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 16: ultimately I don't get to decide who local councils are

1025
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 16: New Zealanders do.

1026
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: One of the things you announced last week is this

1027
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: cross party idea, of this consensus idea around the infrastructure

1028
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: thirty year Plan, all that sort of stuff that was

1029
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: poop poot almost immediately. Is it possible we are too

1030
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: divided as a nation politically anyway that we will never

1031
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: agree and yesterday's announcement on roads, for example, is a

1032
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: good example of that.

1033
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 16: Well, look, I think you're right and you're wrong right

1034
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 16: that there will always be some issues that there will

1035
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 16: be disagreement on. That's healthy and that's important. But can

1036
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 16: we decide to collectively agree to the bulk of infrastructure projects?

1037
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Speaker 16: I don't think that's beyond us. If you think over

1038
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Speaker 16: the next thirty years what we're going to require in

1039
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 16: terms of roads, hospitals, school buildings, there shouldn't be a

1040
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 16: big hullabaloo of a debate about that, and we should

1041
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 16: be able to put that in writing, agree as parties,

1042
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 16: give the construction sector certainty, allow them to build their workforces.

1043
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Speaker 16: And that's the aspiration we have and we're going to

1044
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Speaker 16: keep urging opposition parties to work with us on it.

1045
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: Okay, Having said that, there was a letter yesterday from

1046
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Speaker 2: the power people. And so when you've got one party,

1047
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: rightly or wrongly, that wants a big bucket at sixteen

1048
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: billion dollars, and you've got you guys wanting to look

1049
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: for some coal or some oil and burn it, that's

1050
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: an insurmountable gap, isn't it.

1051
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 16: Well, look, I would just invite those parties on the

1052
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Speaker 16: other side to come join me in the real world,

1053
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 16: because here in the real.

1054
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Speaker 2: World, there's a problem right there, isn't it. I mean,

1055
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: as good a one liner as that was. That's your problem,

1056
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1057
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 16: Well, look here it is. New Zealanders want to turn

1058
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Speaker 16: the lights on. They want they want there to be

1059
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 16: industry that can afford the price of the electricity bill

1060
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Speaker 16: that comes. And we've got to be truth tellers. Unless

1061
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Speaker 16: we have some backup gas, New Zealand is going to

1062
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 16: have terribly insecure electricity supply. Those are the facts. So, actually, Mike,

1063
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Speaker 16: I remain hopeful that labor will reflect on that situation

1064
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 16: and see it's simply not credible for a mainstream party

1065
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 16: to claim they can have a growing, stable economy unless

1066
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Speaker 16: they can confirm there will be stable, affordable electricity supply.

1067
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Speaker 16: That requires backup gas.

1068
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Speaker 2: Okay. Also yesterday sim and Brown again open electricity and

1069
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Speaker 2: open banking. I get open banking. I thought electricity was

1070
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: reasonable in the sense that if you wanted to change

1071
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Speaker 2: companies you can relatively easily, and people do. Is that

1072
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Speaker 2: not the case? Do we not have open electricity?

1073
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Speaker 16: Well, the issue that a lot of New Zealanders talk

1074
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Speaker 16: about is when they go to compare they're pricing from

1075
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Speaker 16: one electricity provider to another. It's quite difficult to compare

1076
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 16: because of the different approaches to pricing, and so the

1077
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Speaker 16: idea with open electricity is that you can really get

1078
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Speaker 16: in and compare the data. When do you use your electricity,

1079
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 16: what kind of electricity are you using? And what therefore,

1080
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 16: which plan, which regime would suit. So it's all about

1081
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Speaker 16: making it simpler for people to make good decisions.

1082
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: Because I'm Also last week there were some stats I

1083
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Speaker 2: think put out by the Reserve Bank that when it

1084
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Speaker 2: comes to refinancing at the moment, people are moving banks

1085
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Speaker 2: and they're taking details. So you would have us believe

1086
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Speaker 2: that banking's problem and it's not open enough. The ComCom

1087
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: says the same thing. Is that actually true? We just

1088
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: inventing some problems that don't exist.

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Speaker 16: It is absolutely true. Historically around only half of New

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 16: Zealanders have you ever switched their bank? And when you

1091
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 16: look at banking behavior, banks in New Zealand just haven't

1092
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 16: acted as competitively as banks in other parts of the world,

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00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 16: nor have they invested as much in technology and innovation.

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00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 16: But I've seen those numbers about more New Zealanders switching

1095
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 16: their banks, and I think is great because the best

1096
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 16: way to hold the bank's feet to the fire is

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00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 16: to actually stop around.

1098
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: Because that's their argument, though, isn't it It works the market,

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00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: The market's actually working. If you want to change banks,

1100
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 2: you can. If you want to change power provider, have.

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00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 16: You ever tried to change bank? Make it ain't easy?

1102
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: Easy though it does not, I would agree with you,

1103
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, there's nothing actually

1104
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: stopping me if I want to.

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00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 16: Well, I think making it easier is important, but also

1106
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 16: making sure that the banks don't settle back into a

1107
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 16: comfortable position, and that's where having an aggressive competitor, much

1108
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 16: as Australia had Macquarie Bank enter and really disrupt pricing,

1109
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 16: I think the same in New Zealand would be positive.

1110
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: So what do you do with Kiwibank. What are we

1111
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: going to find out about this this mystery idea and

1112
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: thinking you have around Kiwi Bank and how do you

1113
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: turbo charge them and to what extent? Because they their

1114
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: result last week was a good result. I mean, yes,

1115
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: they're a small bank, but they're out performing the other banks.

1116
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: Why is that because people are going to them using them,

1117
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: see the opportunity. So that's a market working.

1118
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 16: Yeah, look, it's good to see it growing in New

1119
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 16: Zealanders are obviously choosing to use that bank. I'm taking

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 16: proposals to Cabinet by the end of the year about

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 16: what we would need to do to get more capital

1122
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 16: into it so it can grow further. Obviously it can

1123
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 16: only grow so far as it's got the money to

1124
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 16: back its own lending, and so there are some options there.

1125
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 16: There are investors here in New Zealand who may be

1126
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 16: interested in investing in that bank, so we need to

1127
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 16: work through what those arrangements.

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Speaker 2: An assessment that there are investors who because it's one

1129
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: thing to talk about it, but it's not that I'm

1130
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: only investing in a banker, but I truly believe the

1131
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: bank will go somewhere and there is a gap in

1132
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: the marketplace for it to grow, etc. You believe that's

1133
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: true and that's the information you are getting.

1134
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 16: Yes, I do for two reasons. One, the context here

1135
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 16: is that the New Zealand banking sector is enormously profitable

1136
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 16: compared to banking around the world, so that makes it

1137
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 16: an attractive investment. The second reason is that I have

1138
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 16: had Key we save a fund. Providers and others say

1139
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 16: to me, look, we'd like a slice of the banking action,

1140
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 16: and Keywi Bank would be a path for getting there.

1141
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: All right, good to see, great to be. On the show,

1142
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: Nikola willis fourteen away from Mate.

1143
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: The Vice Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1144
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: by News Talks.

1145
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 17: A'd be.

1146
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 2: Mike Nichol is a breath of fresh air and after

1147
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: that KG Evasive, Grant Robinson g some of you. You'll

1148
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: never get over that, will you mind?

1149
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 10: You?

1150
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: An interesting piece in the paper this morning. How long

1151
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: do they put out press releases? And the claimers? This

1152
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: fifty five of them and one of the proponents is Willison,

1153
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: the other one is Simon Brown seems to be the favorite.

1154
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: How long do we, you know, go around putting out

1155
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: these press releases blaming the previous regime from that text forever.

1156
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: My rule, if you're a regular you would know is

1157
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: one term you get your first term to go because

1158
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: that last lot did dot dot dot dot dot fill

1159
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: in the gap, and we're going to do dot dot

1160
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: dot fill in your gap. And therefore you go to

1161
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: the first election saying right, these are the plans, here's

1162
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: the the advantages coming to fruition, or if they're not,

1163
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: they will be in the second term. And after you've

1164
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: done your first term, gott into your second term. Then

1165
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: that as far as I'm concerned, as the end of that.

1166
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: So they've got another two years of this. Great to

1167
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: hear a politician Michael Backs' opinions with facts and reasons.

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Speaker 2: Who's up there with Prime minister in Malaysia in New Zealanders,

1169
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: I suppose I can understand that Alliance are there the

1170
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: Auckland Airport. They seem to go on all the junkets.

1171
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: I suppose why wouldn't they because it's tourism. Fonterra is

1172
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: up there for obvious reasons. Yundai, They're only going to Korea,

1173
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: not Malaysia. Once again, for obvious reasons. New Zealand blood

1174
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: stocks up there. Mari tourism. New Zealand Steel School's International

1175
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: Education Association good. They're going to Korea, not Malaysia. Are good.

1176
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: The more we drum up in terms of international students,

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00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: the better. Sea Lord's up there Skyline. They're representing christi

1178
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 2: Atch Airport in Mount Cook Alpine Salmon, so a mixed bag,

1179
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: but nevertheless they're up there with the Prime Minister. So

1180
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 2: hopefully in the next couple of days in the place

1181
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: called Cono Wine, which I had to look up as well,

1182
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: it's a Maori type wine operation, so I'd be interested

1183
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: to know whether they sell on quality, i e. The wine,

1184
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: it's New Zealand wine, whether it's a New Zealand wine story,

1185
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: or whether it's a Mari wine story. Either way, they're

1186
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: up there doing the business. So hopefully in the next

1187
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: couple of days we'll get some numbers as to what's

1188
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: been done, what's been sealed, a few of those KPIs

1189
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: being ticked off, and we actually get some business done,

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: which would be nice. Nine away from eight.

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: The mic Costle breakfast with feeder retirement communities.

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00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: To Micono Wines also owned Toho. I'd seen that that

1193
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: makes sense because I hadn't heard of Kono definitely heard

1194
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: of Toehoo's so good on there, Mike, why not ask

1195
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: Nikola Willis why the government doesn't use Kiwi Bank as

1196
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: their bank rather than Westpac. It's a fair question, but

1197
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: my suspicion is the answer will be size. But I'm

1198
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: going to be interested to see where. And of course

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00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: it's the it's the off forgotten question. It's all very

1200
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: well and I was pleased to see Kiweibank did well

1201
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: last week and there and their results and they're outperforming

1202
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: the market according to them anyway, in terms of their

1203
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: loan book and size of customer, all that sort of stuff.

1204
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: They're outperforming the market in terms of growth. But to

1205
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: get people investing in a bank, you've got to believe

1206
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: that there is room in the market, because the banks

1207
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: will tell you that we're a small country, a five

1208
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: million people. It's like having one and a half air lines.

1209
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: It's like having gen Taylor's in the power. It's there

1210
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: are certain problems with being a tiny country with five

1211
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: million people, and one of those problems you can there's

1212
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: only room for so many business doing so many different things.

1213
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: And they would argue that the banking size is founded.

1214
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: It's found its natural balance. But she would argue otherwise,

1215
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: very good piece, well worth reading. Academic freedom, which is

1216
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: interesting because I'm spending a bit of time thinking about

1217
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: this at the moment because some of our kids at

1218
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: university and one's about to go. An aspect of the

1219
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: freedom of expression. This is from the New Zealand Initiative,

1220
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: an aspect of the freedom of expression that is protected

1221
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: in our Bill of Rights. In fact, academic freedom is

1222
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: also recognized in the Education Act. It's defined as freedom

1223
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: of academics and students to question and test received wisdom,

1224
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: to put forward new ideas, and to state controversial or

1225
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: unpopular opinions. Now you know where this is going. Of course,

1226
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: academic freedom is now seriously under threat in New Zealand.

1227
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: So this comes to us from the New Zealand Initiative.

1228
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: They've talked to a number of people about this and

1229
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: it's well worth looking up and reading. There is a

1230
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: quote culture of fear in our universities. Between twenty to

1231
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: fifty percent of people in the university feel uncomfortable. Many

1232
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: academics fear being disciplined, overlooked for promotion, even safe for

1233
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: their opinions. Academic freedom currently faces our three main threats

1234
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: and they work through them, are spectacular leftwood slant of

1235
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: universities across the English speaking world, the Chinese Communist Party

1236
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: infiltration into universities around the world, and the final threat

1237
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: managerial nature of modern universities. They live in fear of

1238
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: students complaining about something they've said, and that university's main

1239
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: priority these days is protecting their brands. So go to

1240
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Initiative, have a look at that, read

1241
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: it in detail. You'll be illuminated, enlightened, and also, unfortunately,

1242
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: I suspect frightened. Luke Colmb's biggest name in the country

1243
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: music world is with us after the news, big.

1244
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: News, bold opinions, the mic Hosking breakfast with the range

1245
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: rover villa designed to intrigue, and news talks be.

1246
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 18: I've had a large man pass first mind and a

1247
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 18: couple of beautiful girls tell me that tru break down

1248
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 18: run out, while politicians live empired by the way.

1249
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Well seven past night. Luke Holmes is the biggest name

1250
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: in country music. He is the fairy tale story dropped

1251
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: out of college, moved to Nashville. The rist is full

1252
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: of Grammy nominations, records broken, and stadiums full of fans,

1253
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: his new old and his fathers and sons and Luke

1254
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: Colmbs as well as from Nashville. Good morning.

1255
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 5: Likewise, Bud, how are you?

1256
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm very well. Indeed, let me catch up from last

1257
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: time because we didn't talk when you were last here,

1258
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: but you went I am told hunting and you went

1259
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: to see the All Blacks. Taught me through the hunting.

1260
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: First of all, how was it?

1261
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 9: Man?

1262
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 5: It was? It was a lot of fun. It was

1263
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 5: a lot of fun.

1264
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 19: We were in the South Island and man, it was

1265
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 19: just really really beautiful down there. Never seen anything quite

1266
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 19: like it, to be honest, had so much fun. That

1267
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 19: was at the beginning of our tour. We hadn't even

1268
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 19: played a show yet, so we kind of went and

1269
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 19: did that. We did that first and it was gosh, man,

1270
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 19: it was so much fun. We had such a great

1271
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 19: time doing that.

1272
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: And your rugby experience, what position did you play? And

1273
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: how good were you?

1274
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 19: I was one in a three, so one or three

1275
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 19: depended on depending on the game. To be honest, I

1276
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 19: mean I was.

1277
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 5: I was not bad. I wasn't great. You know, I

1278
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 5: wouldn't have I wouldn't have made the I wouldn't have

1279
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 5: made the.

1280
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 19: All Blacks by any any stretch of the imagination. But

1281
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 19: I enjoyed it.

1282
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: Man, I like to hit people fair enough to listening

1283
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: to your SEC song? How big of football? And when

1284
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: we say football, we mean NFL. Now for SEC purposes college,

1285
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: I've been listening to the SEC song. That's brilliant. How

1286
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: did that come about?

1287
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're talking about the Petty.

1288
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that came about through you know, when

1289
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 19: they were putting that whole project together, and it reached

1290
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 19: out to me to be a part of that.

1291
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 5: And my mom is a.

1292
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 19: Massive Petty fan, right, I am, of course by proxy.

1293
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 19: So that was always playing in our house growing up.

1294
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 19: And you know, when you're when you're you know, eight

1295
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 19: or nine years old, you're like, you know, turn the

1296
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 19: ship off.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't want to hear it. You know, it's whatever.

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Speaker 19: You know, anything your parents listen to is not cool

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Speaker 19: when you're you know, eight or nine years old. And

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Speaker 19: then after hearing it so many times, you kind of

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Speaker 19: fall in love with it. And I mean, obviously I

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Speaker 19: couldn't love you know, Petty anymore than yeah I do now, right, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, so I jumped at the opportunity Yeah, man, it

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Speaker 5: was easy. It was fun.

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Speaker 19: It was you know, it was a really cool thing

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Speaker 19: to be a part of, and you know, to get

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Speaker 19: to get to tell my mom I was going to

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Speaker 19: do that.

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Speaker 5: I think she was really excited about that. And it

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Speaker 5: was fun. It's fun experience, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about you, Junny in the moment.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing I noticed on your social the

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Speaker 2: other day, you were at the Bengals practice. This once

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Speaker 2: again is the NFL. Well, I hate you as a

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Speaker 2: Panthers fan. You're not a Panthers fan, and as being

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Speaker 2: a Panthers fand top of the Bengals practice.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm a huge Panthers fan. For better or worse.

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Speaker 19: We're the worst team in the NFL as of right now,

1319
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 19: so I'm die Panthers fan. But we play, you know,

1320
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 19: over here in the States, we play NFL stick right. So,

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Speaker 19: as the as the tour started getting towards the end here,

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Speaker 19: we just finished it up last weekend. But as the

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01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 19: tour kind of finished up, you know, that starting to

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Speaker 19: get into the beginning of the NFL season, so they

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 19: were actually just having practice, like just a regular practice.

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Speaker 19: So we were up there to play two shows in

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Speaker 19: their in their stadium. So that was something we did,

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Speaker 19: and we do that a lot, you know, if teams

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Speaker 19: are practicing or whatever, you know, I try to try

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Speaker 19: to take.

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Speaker 5: Some folks over and watch it.

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Speaker 19: You know, it's just something that not everybody gets to

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 19: go to and not everybody gets to experience.

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Speaker 5: So it was cool. Man, It's cool getting to go

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Speaker 5: do that.

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Speaker 2: That's That's what I want to talk to you about

1337
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: your journey. At what point or are you still in it?

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Speaker 2: Well you're talking to Jama Chase, who if you're an

1339
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: NFL fan, is as big as it gets, and you'll

1340
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: not thinking how lucky is this? How cool is all

1341
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: of this that I just get to wandering and do

1342
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Speaker 2: this stuff.

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Speaker 19: I mean, I definitely think about that anytime we get

1344
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 19: to do to get to do anything right, like whether

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 19: it's go to a baseball game, or go to a

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Speaker 19: football practice or go to the Grammys. You know, I'm

1347
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 19: always kind of aware of, you know, how insanely unusual

1348
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 19: it is to get to to get to do those

1349
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 19: things on a regular basis, And so it's.

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Speaker 5: Never lost on me.

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Speaker 19: I think you you know, you get accustomed to anything right,

1352
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 19: like it be kind of become your normal of like, okay, well,

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 19: you know, we have access to this or to that,

1354
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Speaker 19: and I think as long as that doesn't, you know,

1355
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 19: change you as a person. You know, I think that

1356
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 19: there's nothing wrong with it, right, you know, I'm no

1357
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 19: different than anybody else.

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Speaker 5: I'm just lucky. I got really lucky. I have a

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Speaker 5: really cool job.

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Speaker 19: Yes, I worked really hard at it, but there's a

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Speaker 19: ton of a ton of luck involved as well. And

1362
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 19: I'm I understand that as good as anybody, right, you know,

1363
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 19: it can be, it can be taken away as as

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Speaker 19: soon as it can be given.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 19: So I just try to appreciate, you know, every opportunity

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Speaker 19: that I have to do some special and I also

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01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 19: try to have those opportunities and moments.

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Speaker 5: With people that I care about to share those moments

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Speaker 5: with them.

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Speaker 19: You know, because none of it would be fun to

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Speaker 19: do by yourself, right, you know, I think doing it

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 19: with friends and with family is is what makes it

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Speaker 19: even more special.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's true. Listen, hold on, Luke. We'll

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Speaker 2: come back in just a couple of moments. Luke comes

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Speaker 2: out of Nashville more shortly twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: call it by News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: News Talk Hippy caught a past date. Luke comes is

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Speaker 2: with us, So let's talk about you, Juny, and how

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Speaker 2: much of this is true. You seem to me like

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Speaker 2: this is the story. I moved to Nashville, I got discovered,

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Speaker 2: I became the biggest thing in the world. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's got to be more to it than that.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the uh, that's the

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Speaker 19: really boiled down, that's the chicken broth version of you know,

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Speaker 19: of the story. I guess that's the that's the children's

1389
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 19: book version of the story, I guess, but yeah, it was.

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Speaker 19: It's you know, I'm thirty four now, so thirteen years

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01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 19: ago I taught myself how to play guitar as a

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 19: kid who was failing out of college. I think you

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 19: guys university probably as well. You guys call it over

1394
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 19: there kind of in the in the process of not

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Speaker 19: doing very well in school there and enjoy and I

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01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 19: really enjoyed my time at school, but I didn't enjoy the.

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Speaker 5: School part very much.

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Speaker 19: It was kind of everything that came with it, but

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 19: that being the rugby and the you know, the weekends

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01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 19: and stuff.

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 5: Like that was always some of my favorites.

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01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 19: But you know, it just I've been singing my whole life,

1403
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 19: you know, so it just kind of made sense.

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 19: I always enjoyed singing, and I never really considered it

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01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 19: to be anything other than a hobby, right, you know.

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Speaker 5: It was never.

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 19: It was just something that I loved to do and

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 19: something that I felt like I was good at, and.

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Speaker 5: I just never I don't know how.

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Speaker 19: It never dawned in me until until I picked a

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Speaker 19: guitar up, like man, I could really, you know, maybe

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 19: there's a chance that this could be my life is

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 19: going to be, like you know, And once I figured

1415
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Speaker 19: that out, you know, once I stumbled upon that, I

1416
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 19: just had, you know, I had horse blinders on men,

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Speaker 19: like that was just what I was going to do,

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 19: and nobody was going to stop me from doing it,

1419
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 19: you know. And it wasn't that I was ever going

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01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 19: to be in the situation that I am now. I

1421
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 19: think you'd be crazy to believe that. I think anybody

1422
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 19: would be crazy to believe that. I think you have

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 19: to be a little bit crazy to make it to

1424
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Speaker 19: this point, to be completely honest.

1425
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 5: But I knew for sure that I could.

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Speaker 19: Live a happy life and make a living and pay

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Speaker 19: my bills. Right, whether that was a one bedroom apartment,

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01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 19: you know, as long as when it rained, I didn't

1429
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 19: get wet, and you know, if I was sleeping, you know,

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01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 19: that's that's that would have been enough for me. You know,

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Speaker 19: everything else was always extra. So I never put any

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01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 19: pressure on myself to be a certain way or achieve

1433
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 19: certain things, you know, because anything beyond just being able

1434
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 19: to be happy and have a good life was always

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 19: more than I had ever asked for. So to have

1436
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Speaker 19: ended up here as an insane blessing, and you know

1437
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 19: I wanted a billion chance, right, So, yeah, man, I

1438
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 19: never take it for granted.

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's more complicated than moved to Nashville.

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 19: And yeah, you know, nobody I didn't walk in the

1441
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 19: door at someplace and went, god, dang, look at this

1442
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 19: good look at some bitch.

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Speaker 5: Nobody that didn't.

1444
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 17: And kept.

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Speaker 2: So I've been a country music fan my entire life, right,

1446
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: So I Willie Nelson and Nancy Griffith and all those

1447
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: sort of things country music, Emmy Lou Harris. Yes they've

1448
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: been popular, but it's never been your popular. It's not

1449
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: stadium popular. Encapsulate for us what you've been able to

1450
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: do and how you've been able to do it and

1451
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: why it's been that way.

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Speaker 19: Gosh, man, you know, I always tell people if I

1453
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 19: if I knew the real answer to that, I would be.

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Speaker 5: Selling that instead of doing what I'm doing. You know.

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: But I think it has something to do with one.

1456
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 5: The genre is as.

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Speaker 19: Big as it's ever been right now, Okay, So there's

1458
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 19: no doubt in that sense that it's more popular than

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01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 19: it's ever been. I don't necessarily think that has anything

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Speaker 19: to do with me in particular. I think I'm the

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Speaker 19: lucky guy that's happens to be existing as a country

1462
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 19: singer at the time where the genre is at kind

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Speaker 19: of its peak that it's ever been at and kind

1464
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Speaker 19: of just really continuing to grow, to be honest. So

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Speaker 19: I think there's some element of that, you know, But

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Speaker 19: it's a lot of intent too. Write Like the way

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Speaker 19: we've toured for the last seven or eight years has

1468
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Speaker 19: always been, you know, it was intentional.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 19: We've been to you know, we've been to Australia three

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Speaker 19: or four times. You know, we've been to and we

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Speaker 19: just went to our New Zealand for the first time

1473
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Speaker 19: last year, you know, And so we've always been intentional

1474
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 19: about wanting to you know, we look at you know,

1475
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Speaker 19: we don't look.

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Speaker 5: At Australia, New Zealand or or Europe or.

1477
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Speaker 19: Canada as I mean it'd be cool to go there

1478
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 19: and play one show one time, you know what I mean. Like,

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01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 19: we looked at it from the beginning as how do

1480
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 19: we make this a place that people will want us

1481
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 19: to come back to for as long as we want

1482
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Speaker 19: to go back, right, And so there was always intent

1483
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 19: in in touring, and I think that's really important. I

1484
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 19: think having really long term goals is really really important

1485
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 19: because you don't get to where we've ended up now

1486
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 19: on accident. As far as the being able to do

1487
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 19: the big shows and being able to go overseas and

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 19: being able to do big shows overseas, it was all

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Speaker 19: very very very intentional.

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Speaker 2: Well, all, I hope you're enjoying it, and what I

1491
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: want you to do is tell us you're coming back

1492
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 2: to New Zealand because once it's not enough, as I

1493
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: think you probably found out the first time around, So

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: you need to make some arrangements around that and let

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Speaker 2: us know when you're doing it.

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Speaker 19: Oh absolutely, man, we're going to be back. We're going

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Speaker 19: to be back asap as soon as we can. You know,

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Speaker 19: we're we're excited to get back over Obviously, last time

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Speaker 19: we were there, you know in Australia, it was the

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Speaker 19: Women's World Cup was going on at that time, and

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Speaker 19: you know, you guys were gearing up for the Rugby

1502
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 19: World Cup to start I think maybe the month after

1503
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 19: we left, and so yeah, we weren't able to get

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Speaker 19: in any any of the bigger venues and so that

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Speaker 19: was kind of a that was a little bit of

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Speaker 19: a speed bump.

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Speaker 5: So we had to you know, we had to do

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Speaker 5: multiple nights and smaller venues.

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Speaker 19: And there was still a ton of people that that

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Speaker 19: didn't get to calm I know that that wanted to

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Speaker 19: be there, and so we definitely want to get back

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Speaker 19: as soon as we can and uh and do some

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 19: of those bigger shows for you guys over there.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic listen, a joy to make and talk with you.

1515
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: Go well, enjoy and let us know when you're coming in.

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: We'll catch up then maybe.

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, likewise, appreciate it.

1518
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: Bud there, we got bloke comes out of Nashville this morning.

1519
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: Feedback is what you would expect, But fathers and sons

1520
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: is the element. It's brilliant. They're all brilliant. Eight twenty one, The.

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villain News.

1522
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: Took said b U talks at BA twenty five. By

1523
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: the way, the video given it was on zoom. The

1524
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: video that particular interview is going to be up as

1525
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 2: soon as they can put it up after nine o'clock,

1526
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: and there might be some bonus material there. It'll be

1527
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of monus materials, like having an extra

1528
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: track or a hidden track. Hands down the best concert

1529
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: I've ever been to. Mike, come back soon, he will be.

1530
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 2: Luke Colmes is my favorite. And Where the Wild Things

1531
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: Are is my current number one of the playlists. Yeah,

1532
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: fair enough, Mike. I flew to San Antonio and May

1533
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: just to see Luke Colmes. How call is that? That's

1534
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: what life's about, isn't it? Awesome entertainment? We had a

1535
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: great time. Hope you enjoyed it, Andy, clearly you did.

1536
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: San Antonio. How do you get to San Antonio? Go

1537
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: to Houston, Houston, then to San Antonio. Sitting in a

1538
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: yoop waiting for the interview with Luke Colmes. I'm a

1539
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: little bit excited. Well, Murray, I hope it worked out

1540
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: well for you, Mike. After countless road trips to America,

1541
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: we finally did Nashville this year. O MG, bucket list

1542
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: destination like nothing. We've seen five story bars, all with

1543
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 2: ten out of ten music food on each level. Luke's

1544
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: currently building yard. Didn't know that Luke's currently building his

1545
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: own megabar. His collaboration with post Malone and the new

1546
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: album if One Trillion would be one of the best

1547
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: country music albums out this year. As soon as I

1548
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: heard it, I bought him a lot of buzz around that.

1549
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: Not the bar, the album five story bar a thing really,

1550
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: I mean's that lart Mike. Government has a contract with

1551
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: Westpac for banking services expires twenty five to twenty six.

1552
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: Then they look at kiwibank, Well, one would hope, so

1553
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't we. And after I run the news in a

1554
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: couple of moments, Rod Little's with us. So there's tremendous

1555
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: amount going on in Britain at the moment, not Lisa,

1556
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: which is the Labor Party crackdown on smokers out in

1557
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: the backyard of the pub. They don't like that so

1558
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: they're going to do something about it. And then of

1559
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: course we've got the announcement overnight that they're canceling some

1560
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: of the licenses for exports of weapons to Israel. So

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01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: the pressure of the pressure is starting to be felt

1562
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: in that part of the world. But then we have

1563
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,839
Speaker 2: a record number of migrants, and this is why Europe

1564
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: is so angsty. It is why what happened in Germany,

1565
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: Oldiest Germany yesterday happened. A record number of migrants living

1566
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: in Britain are not working. It's costing the economy eight

1567
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: billion pounds sixteen billion dollars each and every year there

1568
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 2: are one point six eight nine thousand non UK nationals

1569
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: unemployed or classified as economically inactive. Rod Little after the News,

1570
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 1: Next your trusted source for news and fews the Mic

1572
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

1573
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs edb.

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: You know, Ethiopia banned petrol cars. Tho were the first

1575
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: country in the world of banded petrol cars. Interesting story.

1576
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you about that later if I get time. Anyway,

1577
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: The reason I suddenly remember that that MG have announced

1578
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: globally this morning, MG are not what they were. Unfortunately,

1579
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: when you think of an MG, you think of the

1580
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: classic MG, don't you the early seventies, the MGBGT. Anyway,

1581
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: they're not that anymore. But they have announced this morning

1582
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: that they are going to, like everybody else, focus on

1583
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: hybrids as opposed to evs for the usual reasons. Twenty

1584
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: three minutes away from.

1585
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: Nine international correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of

1586
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business Right Britain, we go.

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Rod Littles back from holiday. How are you mate?

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01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 17: Great to be back. I'm canned, healthy and full of

1589
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 17: vim cone of.

1590
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: It's so much going on in your particular part of

1591
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: the world. I'm desperate to get to the pubs and

1592
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: the gardens and the b But we'll do that in

1593
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 2: the moment because we've had overnight this announcement on Israel,

1594
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: so suspending some of the licenses. I think it's thirty

1595
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: of three hundred and fifty. The message is what from

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01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: the government.

1597
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 17: It's a complex message. The message before the election was

1598
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 17: the the Labor Party stood four square behind Israel and

1599
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 17: that caused Kirstarma a lot of problems which we saw

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01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 17: which we talked about during the election run up. The

1601
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 17: lesson now, I think is they're going to be hard

1602
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 17: on Israel, much as are the Democrats in the USA,

1603
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 17: and that's it's going to cause a bit of friction

1604
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 17: with the Jewish population in this country, but that Jewish

1605
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 17: population comprises only about three hundred thousand people. It will

1606
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 17: play very well, indeed with the Muslim constituency, which had

1607
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 17: been tempted to move away from Labor at the last

1608
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 17: election towards George Galloway's party or towards independence. So it's

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01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 17: quite a candy bit if you were to boil it down.

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 17: Everything that the Labor Party has done since its acquiet

1611
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 17: power is to give in to its client groups, and

1612
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 17: one of those of the public sector workers, which it's

1613
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 17: done with enormous pay rises. Another is the Muslim vote,

1614
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 17: which used to be sixty seven seventy percent in favor

1615
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 17: of Labor, So.

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: That partially answers My next question was is this because

1617
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: it's a new government or is it because Biden esk

1618
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: the sort of tired of this thing going on too

1619
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: long and they need to cut some sort of deal.

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Speaker 17: Oh, I think there are complexities within this. Of course,

1621
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 17: there are and there does have to be a deal

1622
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 17: to be done somewhere. But no, I think this is

1623
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 17: very much a sub to the left of the Labor Party,

1624
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 17: which does not recognize Israel and does recognize Palestine, and

1625
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 17: wishes that the Labor Party was really itself of what

1626
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 17: it thinks is an imperialist outlook, and which those who

1627
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 17: are on the other side of the Archima will say

1628
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 17: would be an anti Semitic argument if Labor were to

1629
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 17: to propel the source of policies which the far left

1630
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 17: of the party.

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Speaker 2: Want, let me get to the back of the pub.

1632
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to work out, Rod, who is this

1633
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: Labor party that's now running your country. On one hand,

1634
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 2: I look at some of their decisions that are sort

1635
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 2: of conservative, like the heating. We don't have the money,

1636
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: we can't afford it. That's conservative Labor. On the other

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01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the sticky beak Labor government going, oh, I

1638
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: don't like you smoking. I'm not going to have you

1639
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 2: smoking in the pub out the back, and how's that

1640
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: going to end? Apart from a lot of people extremely pissed.

1641
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 17: Off, Well, you're right, and I think the kind of

1642
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 17: signal thing which we hadn't expected since Labor was selected.

1643
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 17: Was their failure to get that message across and there

1644
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 17: kind of weary palling manner of communicating with the public. So,

1645
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 17: for example, no question at all that the payments to

1646
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 17: pensioners should have been targeted, which a lot of people

1647
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 17: said at the time, and many toys said at the time.

1648
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 17: Labor just abolished it all. And so the signal that

1649
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 17: went out that the room stuff, as people will say,

1650
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 17: was that Labor doesn't like pensioners. Terrible stuff to do.

1651
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 17: And then there's the other side of the coin, which

1652
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 17: is Labor having a go of people who are smoking.

1653
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 17: You don't need to do that. You don't need to

1654
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 17: do that. You know, smoking is down now to eleven

1655
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 17: percent of the population. It's virtually gone. You don't need

1656
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 17: to take any more proactive action to deal with that,

1657
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 17: and yet they are. And that will annoy people the

1658
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 17: noise the smokers, obviously, but it also annoys those people

1659
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 17: who stick up for individual rights. It's its ability to

1660
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 17: sort of hook onto what it's popular, what plays well

1661
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 17: with the public doesn't look terribly good at the moment enough,

1662
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 17: perhaps explains why Sekia's popularity is falling in the polls.

1663
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 17: By the hour.

1664
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, which brings us then to Jazz, who's a Labor

1665
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 2: in p happens to be I'm reading, the largest owner

1666
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: of private property, biggest property investor in the Parliament. Turns

1667
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: out a lot of his houses are a bit dilapidated.

1668
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: He's in shock sex the agent who's looking after it.

1669
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: Is it the agent's fault or is it Jazz's fault

1670
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: for being an MP owning a lot of houses that

1671
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: he really obviously didn't care about.

1672
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 17: Well, according to me, it's the agent's fault. According to

1673
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 17: the Labor Party, it's his fault. So in other words,

1674
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 17: if you're if you're a landlord who owns property which

1675
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 17: is you know, damp, moldy, full of vermin, et cetera,

1676
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 17: et cetera, that is your responsibility and there are no arguments.

1677
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 17: And this is another area where Labor really is in

1678
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 17: trouble because it's this thing about don't do as we say,

1679
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 17: don't do as we do, do as we say. That

1680
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 17: there are many people within the Labor Party, including Angela Rayner,

1681
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 17: who have played fast and loose with the laws over

1682
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 17: what you can do with your own homes, who you

1683
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 17: can rent them out to and etcetera, etcetera. And here

1684
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 17: we have a clear case with this guy Jazz as

1685
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 17: well the MP's at Ilford, which is a particularly run

1686
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 17: down suburb of eastern London, who has been renting our

1687
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 17: houses which are pretty shocking. And I think you're going

1688
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 17: to be seeing a lot more of this. And this

1689
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 17: is I mean, I think you've nailed it, mate, that

1690
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 17: this is one of the things which really really annoys

1691
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 17: the electorate at the Labor Party and its members and

1692
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 17: its mpees can get away with stuff which no one

1693
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 17: else would be allowed to.

1694
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 2: All right, Ron, catch up soon, appreciate it back on Thursday,

1695
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: just before we leave Britain. By the way, Private and

1696
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: this will be a scrap. Private consultants cost seven billion

1697
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: three point four billion pounds seven billion New Zealand dollars

1698
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: last year. Government spending on private consultants sixty two percent

1699
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: higher in twenty three twenty four than twenty nineteen twenty twenty.

1700
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: Surgeon consultant spending during COVID, of course, failed to come

1701
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: back down to pre pandemic levels. A lot of money,

1702
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: isn't it for a country it doesn't have any money?

1703
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: Eight forty five The.

1704
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Speaker 1: Mic asking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: It is twelve away from nine Capital Quick things out

1707
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: of the States just didn't they've grabbed Aduro's plane. I

1708
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,839
Speaker 2: happened wonder If you're regularly you'll know I've been wondering

1709
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: about Venezuela and what happens. You've got Brazil, which is

1710
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: exciting at the moment because the courts band X and

1711
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 2: Elon's ropable and I don't know where that goes. They've

1712
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: confumed it overnight only did the ban, but they've confirmed

1713
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: the band. So the courts are involved in this, and

1714
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,919
Speaker 2: they've got an election coming up. Then you had Maduro,

1715
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 2: who in Venezuela invited international observers to have a look

1716
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,879
Speaker 2: at the election, which they did, and then they decided

1717
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: that it was as crooked as all hell. He's claim victory,

1718
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: the opposition's claim victory. Some independent observers had a look

1719
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 2: at the numbers and they said there is no question

1720
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: that Gonzalez won the election and Maduro didn't. But Madeiro

1721
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: is still holding on it seems to be. And then

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Speaker 2: there was a series of protests. Few people got killed

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Speaker 2: over the weekend previous weekend, this goes back a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks and I thought, now, what happens now internationally?

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01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: You know, so you have your dodgy election, the people

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Speaker 2: hit the streets. It's clear to everybody that it's a

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Speaker 2: stitch up. Does anybody do anything? And the answers and

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01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: the answer up until now has been no. But anyway,

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: overnight they sees Maduiro's plane. Now Maduro's plane was in

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Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic, because the first question you ask yourself, well,

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: how they get that it was in the Dominican Republic,

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01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: purchased allegedly in violation of USS. It's been flying to

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Speaker 2: Fort Lauderdale, where it sits at the moment. It was

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Speaker 2: thirteen million dollar plane brought through a shell company, smuggled

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Speaker 2: out of the States, so it started off in the States.

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Speaker 2: So they've got them on that, which is interesting. The

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Speaker 2: other thing that's happened in America overnight is my ongoing

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01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: fascination with San Francisco. Because it's entirely possible I'm going

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01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: to end up there. I'm hoping she decides not to.

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Speaker 2: So here's the problem with us covering the American election.

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01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: At the moment, my guess is she's gone I mean,

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 2: broadly speaking, their base where they are, and so for

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: her at San Francisco. So she'll be based for the

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01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: election in San Francisco. Last time we went, it was

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: New York for Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. This time

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01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: it'll be I'm assuming Florida for Donald Trump. They haven't

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: officially announced this, by the way, which is the other

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01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 2: thing that's interesting or I did wonder as a late

1749
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 2: breaking thought over the weekend, given her incumbency as vice president,

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01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: maybe she's basing herself in Washington now that that would

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: be good news, mainly because Washington is fastly more interesting

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01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: than San Francisco, and you are much less likely to

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01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: be killed, and there's Arlington, and there's the Congressional Library,

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01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: and there's all the cool stuff to do in Washington,

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01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 2: so that would be well worth going to. Anyway, back

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01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: in San Francisco, the football player the forty nine er

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,879
Speaker 2: season starts this weekend, who was shot by a seventeen

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01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: year old at three point thirty in the afternoon in

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: Union Square and has caused a tremendous ruckus because it's

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01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: become internationally embarrassing for a city that's already absolutely on

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01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: its knees in terms of crime and social misbehavior. The

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Mayor London Breed held a news conference yesterday and they

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01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 2: were trying to explain that this was an isolated incident

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: in a city with a relatively low crime rate. So

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 2: there into having been there within the last year, I

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01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: can tell you that's bs a terrible and rare incident

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: in Union Square where the city's increased police officer coverage

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01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: in recent years. First quarter of twenty year they had

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Speaker 2: that they had some numbers first quarter of twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Property crimes down thirty two percent, violent crimes down fourteen percent.

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01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: Gun violence specifically is down thirty eight police department's most

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 2: recent report. We've seen a twenty two percent drop in

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01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: violent crime broadly this July compared with last July. Though

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: the number of reported gun violence incidents during July was

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01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: indeed tied at twenty one across both years, so just

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01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: July twenty one, so that's getting towards about one a day.

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: So you don't want to be the poor sap in

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01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: Union Square at about three thirty in broad daylight in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon with a smacked out seventeen year old with

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Speaker 2: a pistol in his pocket looking for trouble. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: San Francisco eight to nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Flies real Estate newstalk SIBI.

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Speaker 2: Reported to this morning, indeed in the Journal of the

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Speaker 2: American College of Cardiology, which I subscribed to. No, I

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01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: don't a zimpic. If you take it, not only are

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01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: you losing one, you're less likely to die of COVID

1787
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: and indeed supper adverse effects there seems to be. The

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01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: more they look into a zimpic and will go be

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 2: the more things it does. Started out with diabetes, then

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01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: they worked out you could lose a lot of weight.

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01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: Then it had some sort of heart benefits. As of

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01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: the other day that I was reading, now, if you

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01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: get COVID you're fine.

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 15: An't yours when we were talking about recently, that you're

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01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 15: also more likely to get pregnant with a zimpic. Yeah,

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01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 15: I think so it's been an unintended side effect.

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01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 2: Yes, you did too, You're quite right. I don't think

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01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: in men. I don't think they've gone.

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Speaker 15: I didn't know that that drilled down on time.

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01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Maybe the differentiated Maybe they haven't got to that part yet.

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01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 15: Actually, maybe you might be less likely because apparently it

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 15: may cause erect oldysfunction as well. Oh so it always

1804
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 15: a good news.

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01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: Bad and dysfunction. But you know you're not going to

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01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: die of COVID and you've lost weight or five minutes

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with the home of Big Brand Cosmetics.

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Speaker 2: McKellen's back. He's the guy I fell off the stage

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: the other day, chipped a vertebra and fractured as rist. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: new film is called The Critic. It's out here, but

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01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: it's not in the UITs, which is weird. They won't

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 2: be there until next week. They asked him about the

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01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 2: fall line.

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Speaker 9: There was such a hooha in the press. It was

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01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 9: as if I had died and I was reading my

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Speaker 9: own obitus. I must say, there's some very nice one.

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 9: But it wasn't as bad as it sounded. And everything

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01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 9: is physically amended. I'm having to deal with it emotionally.

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01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 9: I felt ashamed of myself, and I felt I let

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 9: the audience done, and I felt guilty. And when I've

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01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 9: swept that was out of the way. I'll get back

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01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 9: to work. But in the meantime I'm having a bit

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Speaker 9: of a rest.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: There's also a Lord of the Rings coming in twenty

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01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 2: six and they want him in there as well.

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01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 9: Is the good to all Lord of the Rings? I'm

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01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 9: told there are, and I'm told Ganda's involved, but I'm

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01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 9: not told how much he's going to be paid or

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01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 9: how much he's going to say. So I think we'll

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Speaker 9: leave it there.

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Speaker 2: What's that squeaking?

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Speaker 15: I don't know. I mean, you were just in a

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Speaker 15: room being interviewed.

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Speaker 2: Was that the space station.

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01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 15: Could have been as making mysterious noises exactly?

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01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if they were.

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01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 15: All Maybe they're stranded up there. Maybe that's why the

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 15: real reason why he's not doing the play.

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01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is. Out of here back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: morning from six as always, Happy Days God.

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