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Speaker 1: Listen. As we've discussed on the show this weekend, Mark's

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Speaker 1: the last day of Winnie in the first day of

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Speaker 1: David Seymour as the Deputy Prime Minister. Now mostly I

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Speaker 1: don't actually care. I mean, I largely agree with Jim

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Speaker 1: Bolger's assessment, and obviously happy ninetieth birthday to Jim for tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The role doesn't actually mean very much. It's symbolic, It

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Speaker 1: doesn't carry in a particular power other than really just

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Speaker 1: letting you know who's second in command. But it feels

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Speaker 1: like an appropriate time just to take a moment to acknowledge,

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Speaker 1: because we don't do this very often, that it's actually

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Speaker 1: very nice, isn't it to have both of these two

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Speaker 1: men in government right now, if only to give the

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Speaker 1: Nats a little bit of a push along, you know,

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Speaker 1: to actually do things from time to time. Winston Winston

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Speaker 1: strikes me right now as the right man for the

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Speaker 1: right job for right now. Don't you think, with all

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Speaker 1: this nutty stuff that's going on in the world, has

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Speaker 1: huge previous experience as a foreign minister. I think is reassuring.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's not going overboard to say that

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Speaker 1: I trust his instincts in the job when he gets

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Speaker 1: angry with Israel. You know, it's not for politics, it's

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Speaker 1: not for performance. It's because he's actually angry with Israel

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Speaker 1: and his experience that would be warranted on David Seymour.

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing that we can truly thank him

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Speaker 1: for right now, it's shifting the Overton window so that

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Speaker 1: we can and now do debate things like the treaty principles.

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Speaker 1: The Overton window is the available is that it covers

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Speaker 1: the stuff that we feel comfortable talking about in the

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Speaker 1: media and in society. He has shifted that, so treaty

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Speaker 1: principles are now firmly within the Overton window, and we

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Speaker 1: talk about it, and we should be able to debate

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Speaker 1: it because they should not be taboo. Things that have

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Speaker 1: as much impact on our economy and our society and

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Speaker 1: our lives as treaty principles and as on our private

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Speaker 1: property as well, should be up for discussion without critics

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Speaker 1: of those things being labeled racist. And it is squarely

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Speaker 1: because of acts policies that those discussions are now out

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Speaker 1: in the open now. I don't really expect very much

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Speaker 1: to change after the weekend, other than maybe we'll see

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Speaker 1: more of both men more of David Seymour because he'll

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Speaker 1: be the deputy, and more of Winston because he'll not

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Speaker 1: be the deputy, which means that he can act up

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Speaker 1: a little bit maybe, But either way, I think it's

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Speaker 1: not a bad thing to have both of them in

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Speaker 1: there at the moment, does it? For More from Hither

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