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Speaker 1: To Party Mardi is imploding. It'll be no surprise to

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Speaker 1: you given what's happened over the last month.

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Speaker 2: This decision was not taken lightly. Many hope the end

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Speaker 2: would be reconciliation. It could not be achieved. We acknowledge

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Speaker 2: the mummy our people have built, and we think our

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Speaker 2: National Council for upholding our color and the best interest

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Speaker 2: of our movement throughout.

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Speaker 1: Helmet Modlick is well by the way Ferris and Kapa

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Speaker 1: King now become independents and they say that they will

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Speaker 1: fight this. We'll see where that goes. Helmet Modlik is

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Speaker 1: nate toi ewchief executive with me this morning. Good morning Mardena,

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Speaker 1: good to have you on the show. What is your

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's not a great look for to

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Speaker 1: Party Mahdi, But what happens with the Maldi electric vote

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Speaker 1: now do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it will depend on what plays out over

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Speaker 3: the next probably the next six months or so. It's

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Speaker 3: to state how bitterly disappointing it is for the married

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Speaker 3: community to see the dynamic that's played out so publicly

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Speaker 3: and resulting in this fractious outcome. Yeah, hard to overstate it.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what exactly. You know, some of that

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Speaker 1: Ferris and couple King have actually done.

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Speaker 3: Well. I think it's fair to say that the actions

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Speaker 3: and conversations that have gone on initially behind the scenes

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Speaker 3: and then more recently in all two public ways, online

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Speaker 3: as well as over the media, has really been a

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Speaker 3: combination of small and not so small actions that have

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Speaker 3: just irritated each got thought about it. It seems to

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Speaker 3: be pretty orthodox sort of personality power politics type actions

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Speaker 3: are common. Well, that's always you're going to have a

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Speaker 3: serious ego if you're going to be in politics, and

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Speaker 3: it's it seems to parallel pretty similarly the sorts of

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Speaker 3: things we should play out in other parties at this

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Speaker 3: At this stage though, in the electoral cycle and give

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Speaker 3: and the strategic issues and play for to party MALDI

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Speaker 3: and the progressive side of the political spectrum, it's it's

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Speaker 3: serious helmet.

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Speaker 1: Does Labor win out of this? You know, do we

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Speaker 1: get Maori voters on the Maori role going back to Labor.

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Speaker 3: That's that's clearly got to be one of strategic options.

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Speaker 3: That's why I say it depends on what plays out

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Speaker 3: over the sixty nine months. The you know, the there's

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Speaker 3: no point winning a battle if you lose the war,

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Speaker 3: and the war at this point in time is seen

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Speaker 3: the Coalition and it's egregious attacks on the Murray community

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Speaker 3: and over the last couple of years seeing them removed

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Speaker 3: from office. That's the war and this this battle that's

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Speaker 3: playing out into party Mali has has been decidedly unhelpful

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Speaker 3: and winning that battle, that war.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Helmet model. I appreciate your time this morning, Natty

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