1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Morning, Council Boss, Hamish Reek morning. You're not at Eddington. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: I'm a burden, but you're still looking good. You've got 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: the fascinator in the can. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: My fascinator is not in the right okay, just. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: The one, the one that's missing. Yeah, yeah, I was 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: on the prize. It's going to be a big day there. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: Looking forward to catching up with Mark and for his picks, 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: including the Dominion race, which, as I understand is ironically 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: the Trotting Cup isn't for Trotter's for something called pacers. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: So I'm key to find out what the difference is 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: there with me. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: I think, but in which it goes in which order, 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: but anyway will be able to answer. 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: The hovel is my default state, so maybe I would 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: fit in there too. Hey something I was keen to 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: talk to you about. It's been spotted in the local 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: preests over the past week. We've got this new parking 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: camera car rolling around town. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so we're trialing a car with a mounted camera 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: which will photograph car in the in the parks and 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: can read the number plate and assess once it gets 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: that information whether that car continues to be legally parked. 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: So a way of we're going to trial. The number 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: of councils around the country have already started using this 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: automatic sort of parking management systems. So we're going to 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: give it a guard and see. 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: What do you mean by automatic? Does it drive itself? 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: No right now, but the information that it takes a 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: photo and can assess itself whether or not the car 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: is legally or and as the car goes around, it 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: can check the time that it's, how long it's been there, 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: et cetera. 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Sol oh okay, So it's not just scanning number plates, 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: but it's also looking at how you parked in the 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: space and exactly. 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: So it's doing essentially the same job as as as 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: the parking officer that walks around. 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: And in fact, the. 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: First part of the trial is to run both in tandem, 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: and the car won't be issuing any tickets because it's 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: just a trial, but we can compare the data with 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: what the parking officers see on the ground to see 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: just how accurate is and whether it's something you want. 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: So this trial runs for six months. The car is 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: not going to be issuing tickets in that time. 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 2: No, in the trials and two parts. So the first 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: part is to assess it threaturacy compared to the parking 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: offices that are doing that still doing the job. And 49 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: then the second part of the trial is the admint part. 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: Just how does it work in the back office? How 51 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: does it produce tickets if it was to be the 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: system to do so? 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I guess one of the concerns on the surface Hamish 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: reac because this is going to cost people some jobs. 55 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: So are we going to see the end of the 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: meet wardens? 57 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: No, not the intention at all. The car still needs 58 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: to be driven and of course we've still got to 59 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: check the admin in the in the in the back office. 60 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: So certainly a potential change, but not not lost jobs. 61 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Possibly adding jobs. 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: Well maybe we need to we need to get the 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: trial underway and just see how it looks. But there's 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: some good reasons to do the trial. In my head, 65 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: there's at. 66 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Least what I was going to ask about that it 67 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: seems awfully trail blazing for a small place like Ashburton. 68 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider that we have that much of an 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: issue with parking. Why are we doing this? 70 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? So two major benefits. One is we've all received 71 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: parking tickets in our life and we've all felt bad 72 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: about getting those Some people cross the line and have 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: a real go at our parking offices and it's ugly. 74 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Angry really here in Ashburton. Here in ashburga oh Man. 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: And I worry about some of those exchanges, and we're 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: putting our staff in some position of risk. They can 77 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: be really nasty exchanges. All they're doing is their job 78 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: and if the person hadn't parked illegally, they wouldn't be 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: having the conversation yet somehow because they regret getting the ticket, 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: it's our parking office's fault. 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: So this is way to monitor from a distance. 82 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a safety issue. But the second thing 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: is there's also a whole lot of data that we 84 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: can get from the cars driving around around parking pass 85 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: So where are the stress points for the parking where 86 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: the whereas there is that hole? 87 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: It we wagon in the same space. 88 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: Again Yeah, yeah, well more more at an aggregate level 89 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: than just the one car. But yes, you know there 90 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: are the areas that are where there's yeah, there's issues 91 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: of congestion. Are the areas that are vacant? Are the 92 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: timing right now? If there's a lot of tickets in 93 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: one area, does that mean perhaps the parking time limit 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: isn't isn't quite right, whatever the issue is, But we 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: can find a whole lot of data that's much more 96 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: easily aggregated from an automatic system. 97 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: This is just for the CBD. Yeah, is it going 98 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: to be rolling through the lakes of the wet street 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: car park? 100 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, we're going to do the trial and just 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: see how it works. And then there's but if you 102 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: think about a car, you can drive it to Methan, 103 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: you can drive it to Rakaia. You can. Yeah, but 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: we've got to find out about the system first. But 105 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: as I say, there are a number of other councils 106 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: already use this technology for all the same reasons that 107 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: we're looking at it. 108 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: But based on that too. One more final quick question, 109 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: but a concern that will this thing be slow? Will 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: hold traffic up and cause some congestion? 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: No, but it might force people following it to do 112 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: the speed limit in town? What are you looking at 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: me for thinking about your building here and it's ten 114 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: kilometers an hour outside you're building here? 115 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that we narrow alleyway. 116 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly times when PEPs vehicles aren't doing exactly ten. Now, 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: I certainly know because we experienced it as well at 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: the Bearing square. They're not doing ten, just by an observation. 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: Certainly times when I think thirty gets stretched a bit 120 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: and eas street and night as well, so our vehicle 121 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: will be not exceeding the speed limit, but they won't 122 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: be crawling along and holding people up. 123 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: Look forward to keeping tabs on this trial. Hamus react