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Speaker 1: So apparently Daisley Simpson thinking about running from here of Auckland,

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Speaker 1: and Bernie has texted and say, hey, Ryan, has Michael

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Speaker 1: would because I said maybe he'd come in and deal

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Speaker 1: with the vote splitting on it as Michael would sold

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Speaker 1: those airports shares yet and probably not. Barry Soper is here.

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Speaker 1: Hey Barry, Ryan, how you see you?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's nice to be back for such a long break.

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Speaker 1: I must say you're looking actually quite festive with your

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Speaker 1: summer shirt on. You're almost as bad as Chris Hopkins

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Speaker 1: who came.

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Speaker 2: Back because Christmas. That's my problem.

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you think Dearsley's going to run?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I think she will, almost certain.

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Speaker 1: But it's she'll split the vote.

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Speaker 2: Waiting, I think. And I just hope that she learns

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Speaker 2: to put the sunglasses on her nose and not on

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Speaker 2: the top of her head. It seems rain, hail or shine,

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Speaker 2: she's got those bloody sunglasses on top of her head.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to spend fifteen hundred dollars on a

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Speaker 1: pair of sunglasses, Berry, everybody needs to see that. Probably, hey,

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Speaker 1: Luck said, finally telling us where he's going to be

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Speaker 1: on White tonguey Day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's interesting because an Akarah I mean not known

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Speaker 2: for violent protest against the treaty on Treaty Day. But

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Speaker 2: he's going to be there with the Governor General. Cindi

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Speaker 2: Kiro's going down there as well. And Akia has a

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Speaker 2: population of under eight hundred, but it is the oldest

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Speaker 2: town in Canterbury, was settled by Europeans in eighteen forty,

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Speaker 2: the same year as we know that the treaty was signed.

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Speaker 2: But he's not going to get much of a fight

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Speaker 2: But it's an interesting choice, isn't it when you consider that. Look,

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Speaker 2: there are other places that maybe you could get a

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Speaker 2: better profile and a bit more debate, but that's going

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Speaker 2: to get in a kara.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what he doesn't want, isn't it. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's basically running to the other side of of the country.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know I'm running, But I've got to say

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Speaker 2: the way the people are talking up at White Tongy

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Speaker 2: as they always do ahead of it, saying look, politicians,

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Speaker 2: reception is going to be hot. We're told by a

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Speaker 2: man called Tippeny who's one of the organizers up there,

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Speaker 2: and they warn the politicians every time before they go

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Speaker 2: you're a politician, why would you bother? Winston Peters is going.

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Speaker 2: David Seymour, the architect of the Treaty Settlement's bill, he's

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Speaker 2: going to be there, and good luck to him. I

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Speaker 2: think he should go on front up. And this has

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Speaker 2: got exactly what David Seymour wants, and that's debate on

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Speaker 2: the treaty. So good thing.

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Speaker 1: This is Raeli newspaper, so we were talking about this

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Speaker 1: last week. It was the visitor visa and the soldier

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Speaker 1: a soldier. Whatever. These writing newspaper now correcting the story.

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Speaker 2: Well, it took them a long time, didn't it. I

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Speaker 2: mean it caused an international uproar, which is extraordinary for

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Speaker 2: a story when you consider that in Israel, if you're

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Speaker 2: to any other test? I think that argument has sort

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Speaker 2: of been lost in this whole thing. And Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: has been accused of trump Ism for saying it was

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Speaker 2: fake news. Well, indeed, it was fake news. They said

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Speaker 2: neither it's your for Palestinians nor for Israeli.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that kind of story has the potential to

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Speaker 1: do real damage to our reputation in America. Right, And

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Speaker 1: when I saw Ted Cruz treating about it, I thought, oh.

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Speaker 2: Shed crew saying we're not ollies. Well for his information.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've always been seen as very very close

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Speaker 2: friends until Gondaleza Rice and battered islands at Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: at one stage and she said, we're back to the

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Speaker 2: ally status again. Well if that, if Ted Cruise has

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Speaker 2: got his way, we're not even there yet.

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Speaker 1: I know, changes to the benefit system, the traffic light system,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look they're not that significant really when you

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Speaker 2: think about it. They're going to there's a bill before

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Speaker 2: Parliament at the moment. These changes will be part of that.

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Speaker 2: And look, if you're unemployed, you should be off your

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Speaker 2: butt out looking for work. So anybody that's a naysayer

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Speaker 2: on this one. I think you know they're pushing the

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Speaker 2: wrong barrow if you like, And of course they're always are.

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Speaker 2: You've got Riccardo Mendez March. He's having the standoff with

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Speaker 2: Shane Jones at the moment. The Green MP says it's

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Speaker 2: another punitive measure that would punish beneficiaries deeper and push

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Speaker 1: Does he really think that they doing it as punishment. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's it's designed to try and help them to get

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Speaker 1: off the thing.

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Speaker 2: To apply for jobs, to do some training. It was

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Speaker 2: interesting you saying, I think you had the same apprenticeship

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Speaker 2: as me. It sounds like the paper run. I had

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Speaker 2: a paper run. The gore end sign I used to deliver.

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Speaker 2: It used to be called the Materian sign on those days.

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Speaker 2: Then I went on and I did the milk run,

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Speaker 2: did that running around with the milk bottles, keep fit.

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Speaker 2: And then I worked in a tobacco shop, and then

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Speaker 2: in JT. Sharp and Sons, a men'swear store. All this

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Speaker 2: was available to us before we left school. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 1: There you god great. So you've got to start somewhere,

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Speaker 1: don't you and you start close to home, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, just the paper run. Hey, thanks for that, Barry.

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Speaker 1: Nice to be back, Great to have you back, and

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Speaker 1: great to see you. Barry Soper News Talks. He'd be

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