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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 2: More in a Caldon, New Zealand. Good morning and welcome

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Speaker 2: to News Talks V. Jack Tamee with you through the midday.

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Speaker 2: So my alarm went off well before dawn this morning,

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Speaker 2: well before dawn. You know how keen I am to

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Speaker 2: get to work. So I got up, head a shower,

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Speaker 2: got onto my bike and started riding down the hill

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Speaker 2: to the News Talks e'b studios. And let me tell

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Speaker 2: you it was cold like dare I say, almost South

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Speaker 2: Island level cold like cold, crisp and clear, the kind

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Speaker 2: of cold when you're riding your bike that the moment

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Speaker 2: you get onto a downhill slope and there are no

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Speaker 2: cars on the road, you immediately bury your hands into

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Speaker 2: the pockets of your puffer jacket and you hope that

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Speaker 2: you're not going to get frostbite on the tips of

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Speaker 2: your pinkies. That kind of cold. Why am I telling

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Speaker 2: you this? Well, the All Blacks are playing at Eden

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Speaker 2: Park tonight, and I'm not sure who cold and crisp

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Speaker 2: necessarily benefits. The forecast is fantastic in the O nine

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Speaker 2: at the moment. There shouldn't be any rain tonight, it

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be much when whatsoever. But does that mean that

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Speaker 2: the English have a better chance of breaking the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks thirty year streak in the O nine? We will

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Speaker 2: ask our Sporto very shortly. Right now, it is eight

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Speaker 2: minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: So it's two weeks, two weeks since Joe Biden and

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Speaker 2: that disastrous debate, and still boom the drum boom, steadily

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Speaker 2: boom beats. I gotta tell you, I am obsessed with

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Speaker 2: the story. I'm utterly obsessed. I just think this is

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Speaker 2: an absolutely monumental moment, a monumental moment in global politics.

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Speaker 2: Every morning I wake up, I grab my phone and

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Speaker 2: I immediately check my news apps, check the New York Times,

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Speaker 2: check the Herald. Is Joe still in the race? In

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Speaker 2: a way I suppose you you kin'd of have to

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Speaker 2: hand it to him and his team. In a way,

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Speaker 2: I mean, not once has Biden publicly expressed anything other

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Speaker 2: than absolute total commitment to remaining the Democrats nominee. He

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Speaker 2: knows that the moment he publicly expresses a sentilla of doubt,

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Speaker 2: it's all over. But the more that I have reflected

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Speaker 2: on that debate, the more I find the response of

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Speaker 2: the White House and Biden's supporters kind of insulting. They're

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Speaker 2: gaslighting us. They're gaslighting us by trying to convince hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of people to unsee what they saw. Don't

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Speaker 2: forget Joe Biden asked for the debate. It was held

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Speaker 2: entirely on his terms. He publicly promoted it as a

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Speaker 2: moment in which he could prove to everyone he still

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Speaker 2: had his edge, and in that moment he was incoherent.

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Speaker 2: So far, relatively few of Biden's colleagues have come out

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Speaker 2: and explicitly called on him to stand down. A lot

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Speaker 2: of them have kind of hedged their bets or have

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Speaker 2: acted luke warm at best. But again, it's gaslighting. They

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Speaker 2: saw what we saw, and you just know that all

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Speaker 2: of the conversations being held behind closed doors are exactly

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Speaker 2: the same as this one. They just don't want to

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Speaker 2: risk their own skins. George Clooney's op ed I thought

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Speaker 2: particularly devastating to Biden's cause this week, not because George

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Speaker 2: Clooney is a famous Hollywood movie star, but because as

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Speaker 2: someone who is coordinating fundraising campaigns worth tens or hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars, he thinks Biden needs to stand down.

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Speaker 2: And like everything in US politics, it pays to follow

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Speaker 2: the money. Would you stake your fortune on Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: right now? The post NATO press conference yesterday was a

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Speaker 2: big test for Joe Biden and it was the first

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Speaker 2: press conference of its kind that Biden has held in

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Speaker 2: eight months. Forget his performance, Forget his competence, Forget his

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Speaker 2: relative comfort talking foreign policy, Forget the fact he made

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Speaker 2: several gaffes with names and introductions eight months his first

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Speaker 2: solo press conference in eight months. That fact alone tells

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Speaker 2: you more about and state and capacity than anything else

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Speaker 2: you need to know. So NATO's done. The Democrats convention

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Speaker 2: is next month. If they're going to force them out,

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Speaker 2: this is the window, this is the time to do it.

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Speaker 2: They've got a few weeks to act. Got to say

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Speaker 2: two weeks deep. It is clear, this story, this issue

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Speaker 2: are not going away. With every bad poll, every donor

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Speaker 2: with cold feet, the pressure is sustained that little bit

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Speaker 2: longer and fundamentally, the news is not going to move

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Speaker 2: on because the problem has not gone away. And here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, it won't go away. To campaign for president,

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Speaker 2: you have to be out in public day after day

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Speaker 2: after day. It requires vast energy. It would be exhausting

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Speaker 2: for anyone. But you can be sure there will be

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Speaker 2: more gaffes. There will be more blunders, there will be

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Speaker 2: more moments of utter incoherence, and with every instance voters

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Speaker 2: will be left wondering, this is Biden, now, how's he

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Speaker 2: going to be in another four years? Jack Team ninety

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Speaker 2: a semessage this morning. Jacket Newstalk's heb dot co do

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Speaker 2: years Nineteen ninety four was the last time the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks lost at Eden Park against the French. That wonder try,

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Speaker 2: of course, So here's a pop quiz for you. What

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Speaker 2: do you reckon has lasted longer the All Blacks winning

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Speaker 2: streak at Eden Park or shape shifter? I was staggered

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Speaker 2: by this. This is one of the most moments that

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Speaker 2: you almost feel as old as Joe Biden, Shape Shifter

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Speaker 2: have been around twenty five years now. We're going to

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Speaker 2: be catching up with the guys from shape Shifter. After

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock is our feature interview this morning before ten.

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Speaker 2: If your tummy is rumbling and you're looking for a

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Speaker 2: midwinter treat, We've got a sticky citrus self sourcing pudding

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Speaker 2: recipe we will share with you. Kevin Milner is here next.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Davids Saturday Morning

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Speaker 2: and this is News Dog ZB.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of way to kick off your week.

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Speaker 3: Then with Jack.

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Speaker 2: Mb US Talks EDB sixteen past nine on your Saturday Morning.

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Speaker 2: Jack Emperor's clothes, Biden is deluded, Jack's has been. Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's embarrassing the US come on Pole's show. His vice

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Speaker 2: president can beat Trump, but he can't. A good leader

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Speaker 2: knows when time is up. Angela took something else out

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Speaker 2: of all of that. Jack. You put your hands in

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Speaker 2: your pockets while riding your bike. Just sometimes, Angela, just sometimes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. I was riding my bike

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Speaker 2: at six thirty this morning, so there were basically no

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Speaker 2: cars on the road and I could kind of I

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Speaker 2: had good visibility, right, I guess it's probably not like

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Speaker 2: the absolute safest thing to do, and I obviously take

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Speaker 2: them out of my pockets when I need to break

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Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. You've caught me out there, Angela,

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Speaker 2: You've caught me out ninety two if you want to

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Speaker 2: flickers of edsges this morning, Kevin Milne is here with us.

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Speaker 2: Goal to Kevin Jack.

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Speaker 3: I'm also quite obsessed about the whole Biden issue, and

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Speaker 3: of course it's interesting from somebody of my age because

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Speaker 3: I'm only six years behind him.

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Speaker 2: And you've got your edge though, Kevin, You're you're sharp

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Speaker 2: as attack. Come on.

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Speaker 3: Becoming news talks ZBS.

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Speaker 2: Biden really well, you know, I mean, the thing is,

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Speaker 2: the thing is, it's not actually anything to do with

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Speaker 2: his age. It's not that he's too old to be

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Speaker 2: president necessarily. It's just that he clearly has some issues

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Speaker 2: that might be caused by, you know, but by his

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Speaker 2: relatively advanced age when it comes to coherence and when

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Speaker 2: it comes to communication and when it comes to being

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Speaker 2: really sharp and unfortunately a big part of being president

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Speaker 2: requires you to be coherent and to be a really

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Speaker 2: good communicator. It's not I think, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it also, you know, just have to watch

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Speaker 3: some walk across a stage. He's having a lot of

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Speaker 2: So it's so so I reckon that it'll be decided

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Speaker 2: in the next couple of weeks, basically, like if they're

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Speaker 2: going to do it, it has to be before the convention.

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Speaker 2: And and now that this NATO thing is over, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I still think he will be forced out. But I'm

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm history showing I'm a terrible, terrible at

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Speaker 2: predicting these things. So who knows?

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Speaker 3: Can I confirm with you? Yeah, because it's not clear

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Speaker 3: to me. Can he be thrown out? Does he have to?

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Speaker 3: Can he be checked out?

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Speaker 2: He can't really at the moment.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: But but if I mean basically, once it is all

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Speaker 2: confirmed at the convention, which is next month, then he's

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent locked in. But he can effectively be

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Speaker 2: the country who who support him, but he can But

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Speaker 2: basically the way to the way to get him out

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Speaker 2: will be for some senior people whom he respects to

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Speaker 2: go and have a conversation with them and say, look,

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Speaker 2: your colleagues, and actually, you know, I'm sorry you got

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Speaker 2: to go. And I think they'll be it. But if

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Speaker 2: it does happen, it's gonna be very, very intriguing. Hey,

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Speaker 2: before we kick off, Kevin, we just got to check

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Speaker 2: because this time last week you were debating whether or

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Speaker 2: not to watch the All Backs or whether or not

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Speaker 3: Well, my daughter went to the play and I feel

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Speaker 3: But uh and and now I probably won't get to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well relevant you learn, Kevin. Yeah, and anyway you have,

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Speaker 2: you have been enjoying something else this week. Transpowers explanation

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Speaker 3: There's something that that's so amusing. I enjoyed seeing on

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Speaker 3: the incident caused havoc, and that's why it was being

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Speaker 3: replayed on one News because one of the companies was saying,

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Speaker 3: now lost millions out of the whole thing. But Transpower's

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Speaker 3: watch it. Transpeers investigation into why the pilon fell over

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Speaker 3: seemed to reveal that the nuts volting three of the

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Speaker 3: four legs of the pylon to the ground had been

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Speaker 3: This would seem ill advised at the very least. Trans

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Speaker 3: spokesperson couldn't believe it. Quote, it's unprecedented and inconceivable that

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Speaker 3: so many nuts were removed at once. She followed us

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Speaker 3: up with we've appointed an external party to undertake a

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Speaker 3: full investigation into the cause of the fallen tower. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'd have thought Transpower already had their answer. If you

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Speaker 3: take off too many nuts holding a pieline up, it

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Speaker 3: is going to fall over. Jacket. Jacket reminds me of

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Speaker 3: the great John Clark skit about the front falling off.

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Speaker 5: The oil.

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Speaker 3: You think, yeah, yeah, I reckon too many nuts removed

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Speaker 3: at once to get an award for simplicity in corporate communications.

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Speaker 3: My lads in London thought it was a crack up.

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Speaker 3: It's in that same category as the COT's advice for

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Speaker 3: the fella he picked up at three in the morning.

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Speaker 3: You're buying a pie at the BP service station. You

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Speaker 3: what you must always do. It's been in the warming

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Speaker 2: A Jack says Robin Biden's occasional incoherence is preferable to

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Speaker 7: Go the morning, sir day, good morning, beautiful day, isn't

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Speaker 2: for kickoff just after seven o'clock this evening before of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's tricky for them. I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, sav That is our sporto Andrew Savill,

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Speaker 2: We've had so many, Jack. I know several people in

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Speaker 2: Next up, though, your film picks for this week. It

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Speaker 2: Oh it's dangerous when you interrupt a song as a man,

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Speaker 4: You want a generation tornado outbreak continues Tahoma. We've never

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Speaker 11: You feel it, chase it. They could be a bit

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Speaker 11: This has got everything you want in a blockbuster. Jack.

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Speaker 11: It's got a lot of high speed actions, some pretty

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Speaker 11: So it's sort of fount that it's not going to

431
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Speaker 11: blow your socks off. But this is really great entertainment.

432
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Speaker 11: I think for the Holidays doesn't take it south too

433
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Speaker 11: seriously while trying to also take the fact that tornadoes

434
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Speaker 11: and their destruction they cause is serious, if you know

435
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Speaker 11: what I mean, the sort of nicely kind of balancing

436
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Speaker 11: that up. And basically we do. We just watch a

437
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Speaker 11: couple of We watch your tornado wrangler played by Glenn

438
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Speaker 11: and a tornado whisperer played by Daisy kind of start

439
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Speaker 11: out on sort of opposite sides of the tornado and

440
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Speaker 11: then and then sort of come together a little bit throughout,

441
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Speaker 11: and that's all you need to know.

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Speaker 2: Good fun. I'm just going to read one line from this.

443
00:24:56,773 --> 00:25:01,333
Speaker 2: So is it Harvey Harvey cakes? Yeah, yeah, So she

444
00:25:01,413 --> 00:25:05,213
Speaker 2: crosses path with I'm presuming Glenn Power's character Tyler Owens,

445
00:25:05,733 --> 00:25:09,733
Speaker 2: a charming but reckless social media superstar who thrives on

446
00:25:09,853 --> 00:25:11,893
Speaker 2: posting his storm cheesing adventures.

447
00:25:12,013 --> 00:25:14,493
Speaker 11: Yeah, pretty much. So he's the YouTuber and she's sort

448
00:25:14,493 --> 00:25:16,973
Speaker 11: of the scientist and sociologist. But al, there's a lot

449
00:25:17,013 --> 00:25:19,373
Speaker 11: more to the characters than you think. Just remember there.

450
00:25:19,533 --> 00:25:21,093
Speaker 11: If you feel it, chase it.

451
00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:23,213
Speaker 2: If you feel it, chase it. Honestly words to lift

452
00:25:23,213 --> 00:25:25,733
Speaker 2: by speaking of feeling it. Have I ever told you

453
00:25:25,773 --> 00:25:29,613
Speaker 2: about the time I went tornado chasing. No, I didn't

454
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Speaker 2: actually took chase like a proper like the tornado had

455
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Speaker 2: fizzled by the time I got there. But I was

456
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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma for work and there was a massive tornadoes.

457
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Speaker 2: The more tornado, I think about thirty five people died, sadly,

458
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Speaker 2: and it was like a Category five tornado, like one

459
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Speaker 2: of those absolute you know, like where they're like, oh,

460
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Speaker 2: this is like a black hole tornado.

461
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Speaker 11: Seen one of those in the movie.

462
00:25:51,213 --> 00:25:55,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I got there and it was a couple

463
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Speaker 2: of years after the Christach earthquake, so I've seen all

464
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Speaker 2: the destruction in christ Church and then I went to

465
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City and saw this tornado, and I just can't

466
00:26:04,973 --> 00:26:09,733
Speaker 2: impress upon you the scale of destruction. It's just unbelievable

467
00:26:10,013 --> 00:26:12,853
Speaker 2: what tornadoes can do, Like I think, like three hundred

468
00:26:12,973 --> 00:26:14,133
Speaker 2: kilomere in our winds.

469
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Speaker 5: You know.

470
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Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think actually that's the one thing that

471
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Speaker 11: to capture. Ye, it's very much the one And when

472
00:26:18,893 --> 00:26:20,373
Speaker 11: I sort of said to you, it's that balance between

473
00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:23,253
Speaker 11: the film not taking it serious the characters, but actually

474
00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:27,533
Speaker 11: very much trying to take seriously the devastation, just the annihilation.

475
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Speaker 2: It's the p Yeah, I remember it was.

476
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Speaker 11: An unpredictability of them and how to know when they

477
00:26:34,053 --> 00:26:35,613
Speaker 11: form and things like that. Look that there are some

478
00:26:35,653 --> 00:26:36,733
Speaker 11: interesting aspects of the film.

479
00:26:36,773 --> 00:26:38,733
Speaker 2: Oh sounds good. Go okay, all right, So that is

480
00:26:39,013 --> 00:26:41,613
Speaker 2: Twisters that is showing in cinemas and it feels like

481
00:26:41,613 --> 00:26:46,213
Speaker 2: a kind of movie you probably want to see the holidays. Yeah, yeah, okay.

482
00:26:46,333 --> 00:26:48,653
Speaker 2: Next up, tell us about Calfa Fi Torny.

483
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Speaker 12: Yes.

484
00:26:49,213 --> 00:26:50,973
Speaker 11: Now, this was released a couple of weeks ago, and

485
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Speaker 11: I really want to take a mention of it because

486
00:26:52,653 --> 00:26:56,413
Speaker 11: it's a very powerful historical drama. But it also looks

487
00:26:56,493 --> 00:26:59,133
Speaker 11: beautiful and should be seen on the big screen. And

488
00:26:59,173 --> 00:27:00,693
Speaker 11: it was really, as I mentioned, released a couple of

489
00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:04,253
Speaker 11: weeks ago. It tells the story of the battle for

490
00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:09,813
Speaker 11: or Raco in the Waikato, and it's told very much

491
00:27:09,853 --> 00:27:12,653
Speaker 11: through the Maury lens here. So we're in eighteen sixty four.

492
00:27:12,733 --> 00:27:16,773
Speaker 11: This is probably one of the more dramatic events in

493
00:27:16,853 --> 00:27:19,733
Speaker 11: the land wars. I think they actually celebrated one hundred

494
00:27:19,733 --> 00:27:22,853
Speaker 11: and sixtieth anniversary that was marked this year of this

495
00:27:22,893 --> 00:27:25,493
Speaker 11: particular battle. And at the heart of this film are

496
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Speaker 11: two teenagers. One is a young woman, a prophet who

497
00:27:28,453 --> 00:27:33,693
Speaker 11: speaks for the war of the God of war. She

498
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:37,573
Speaker 11: is feared by everybody, including her own people. And another

499
00:27:37,653 --> 00:27:41,893
Speaker 11: young boy who has a Pakiha father and a Maori mother,

500
00:27:42,053 --> 00:27:45,373
Speaker 11: and he is he finds himself in this battle as well.

501
00:27:45,413 --> 00:27:47,853
Speaker 11: So the story there at the heart of the story.

502
00:27:48,493 --> 00:27:52,933
Speaker 11: Amazing cast Timioda Morrison, Mariam Smithcliff Curtis. So it's a

503
00:27:52,933 --> 00:27:54,813
Speaker 11: bit of a mix of the coming of age story

504
00:27:54,813 --> 00:27:57,653
Speaker 11: of these young characters, but also a bit of a

505
00:27:57,653 --> 00:28:00,253
Speaker 11: coming of age story for New Zealand because the country

506
00:28:00,333 --> 00:28:02,133
Speaker 11: was very much in flux at that point and sort

507
00:28:02,133 --> 00:28:05,173
Speaker 11: of at this point of chaos. So it's a war

508
00:28:05,213 --> 00:28:06,973
Speaker 11: film as well. I mean sat there a lot of

509
00:28:07,013 --> 00:28:08,533
Speaker 11: times going okay, brief now take a breath.

510
00:28:08,613 --> 00:28:09,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's full on.

511
00:28:09,853 --> 00:28:12,613
Speaker 11: So it's wonderful, definitely deserves to be seen on the

512
00:28:12,653 --> 00:28:13,093
Speaker 11: big screen.

513
00:28:13,173 --> 00:28:16,493
Speaker 2: Okay, great, that sounds really good. So that is car Tournu.

514
00:28:16,853 --> 00:28:20,173
Speaker 2: We'll make sure that and Twisters, two rather different films.

515
00:28:20,213 --> 00:28:24,493
Speaker 2: It has to be said. That's what we do do.

516
00:28:24,853 --> 00:28:26,973
Speaker 2: What is something for everybody exactly. We will make sure

517
00:28:27,013 --> 00:28:28,813
Speaker 2: details for both of those films are up on the

518
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Speaker 2: news talks, he'd b website. Jack, I'm obsessed with the

519
00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:35,093
Speaker 2: whole situation in the US, just like you I have

520
00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:36,893
Speaker 2: been with Donald Trump as well. It just goes on

521
00:28:37,093 --> 00:28:39,493
Speaker 2: and on and on, says Greg. Here's the thing, though,

522
00:28:39,613 --> 00:28:42,813
Speaker 2: if Joe Biden and his team were serious about allaying

523
00:28:42,853 --> 00:28:46,693
Speaker 2: all of the concerns regarding Biden's coherence at the moment,

524
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Speaker 2: he would have a comprehensive cognitive test immediately. Yeah, you're right, Greg,

525
00:28:52,013 --> 00:28:54,573
Speaker 2: And he's refused to do that, which is kind of

526
00:28:54,573 --> 00:28:56,373
Speaker 2: telling in itself, isn't it. If you want to flick

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Speaker 2: as a message, ninety two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 1: To ten Saturday Mornings with Jack team been the conversation

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Speaker 1: going through the weekend with bepure dot co dot ince

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Speaker 2: Ten o'clock on us talks, HEB We're going to take

535
00:29:15,413 --> 00:29:18,253
Speaker 2: a closer look at the Galaxy Ring. It sounds like

536
00:29:18,253 --> 00:29:19,653
Speaker 2: a bit of a woo woo kind of thing, but

537
00:29:19,653 --> 00:29:22,853
Speaker 2: it's one of these health trackers, and they reckon that

538
00:29:22,893 --> 00:29:24,973
Speaker 2: this is the one that's really cracked health tracking because

539
00:29:24,973 --> 00:29:27,973
Speaker 2: you know, when you had the first kind of fitbits

540
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Speaker 2: and stuff that were measuring your heart rate, and you

541
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Speaker 2: had the ones that measure your sleep and all that

542
00:29:32,773 --> 00:29:34,813
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Some of that, some of the data

543
00:29:34,853 --> 00:29:38,173
Speaker 2: recording has been a little bit effee at best, but

544
00:29:38,253 --> 00:29:40,973
Speaker 2: they reckon that the Galaxy Ring has absolutely cracked it.

545
00:29:40,973 --> 00:29:42,933
Speaker 2: It's been announced by Samsung this week, So we're going

546
00:29:42,933 --> 00:29:46,053
Speaker 2: to talk to our texpert about what the Galaxy Ring

547
00:29:46,173 --> 00:29:49,333
Speaker 2: does and what it might mean for your health. I'm

548
00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:51,893
Speaker 2: just not convinced it for me. I don't I know

549
00:29:51,933 --> 00:29:53,533
Speaker 2: if I've had a bad sleep, I don't need my

550
00:29:54,133 --> 00:29:57,613
Speaker 2: It's basically every single night, I don't need my ring

551
00:29:57,973 --> 00:30:00,253
Speaker 2: to tell me that I'm having a bad seat. Also,

552
00:30:00,293 --> 00:30:03,813
Speaker 2: how many rings should men be wearing. Yeah, anyway, it's

553
00:30:03,853 --> 00:30:06,093
Speaker 2: another conversation. We'll talk about that after ten o'clock this morning,

554
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:09,013
Speaker 2: right now, fourteen to ten, and our cook Nicki Waks

555
00:30:09,173 --> 00:30:10,973
Speaker 2: is here with us, skeled and Nikki.

556
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Speaker 13: Yes, more than a jack. I'm the same with all

557
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Speaker 13: those fit things that have shift. I wave my hand

558
00:30:18,173 --> 00:30:20,253
Speaker 13: around a lot, so anything on my wrist just thinks

559
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Speaker 13: I've done lots of steps for the dome.

560
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Speaker 2: Oh that's there's quite good though, as long as if

561
00:30:23,773 --> 00:30:26,373
Speaker 2: it's making errors and it's rounding you up rather than

562
00:30:26,413 --> 00:30:28,213
Speaker 2: rounding you down, it's a good thing, right.

563
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, I love it.

564
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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, this morning, but a delicious sounding perfect if

565
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Speaker 2: you have taken lots of steps just to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you're carved up.

567
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Speaker 14: Look, I just.

568
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Speaker 13: Love this putting, and I'm grinning a mile wide because

569
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Speaker 13: I just love sharing it with you. It is, as

570
00:30:44,893 --> 00:30:47,733
Speaker 13: your lovely producer Libby just said, there's something about warming

571
00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:53,213
Speaker 13: citrus that just makes it fragrant and amazing, and so

572
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Speaker 13: I love that. This pudding is like a real comfort dish.

573
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Speaker 13: But it's also got that sort of refreshingness that I

574
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Speaker 13: think citrus brings to any cake or sweet treat.

575
00:31:01,853 --> 00:31:02,093
Speaker 5: You know.

576
00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:06,973
Speaker 13: So it's a sticky citrus self sourcing pudding and super

577
00:31:07,013 --> 00:31:08,853
Speaker 13: easy to make. I just make it in one bowl.

578
00:31:08,893 --> 00:31:11,733
Speaker 13: This is about enough for four people. What I'm about

579
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Speaker 13: to tell you, However, I did eat about half of

580
00:31:14,053 --> 00:31:19,213
Speaker 13: it last night. Yeah four people, Yeah, you're fighting for

581
00:31:19,213 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 13: the last bites, all right. So look, bang your raven

582
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Speaker 13: one hundred and eighty degrees cels yes and grease A.

583
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Speaker 13: I want to say small ovenproof dish, but I guess

584
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Speaker 13: it's enough to feed fourth So just have a think

585
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Speaker 13: about that. It might be sort of fifteen centimeters round

586
00:31:32,333 --> 00:31:35,053
Speaker 13: or equivalent in an oval. Those old ceramic dishes are great.

587
00:31:35,773 --> 00:31:39,173
Speaker 13: Take a bowl and whisk into that one egg, small

588
00:31:39,253 --> 00:31:41,853
Speaker 13: to medium egg doesn't really matter. And a third of

589
00:31:41,853 --> 00:31:45,973
Speaker 13: a cup of regular sugar. Recently I've discovered I've rediscovered

590
00:31:46,093 --> 00:31:49,293
Speaker 13: just regular white sugar, not not caster sugar, just white sugar.

591
00:31:49,493 --> 00:31:52,613
Speaker 13: White sugar is about a third of the price of

592
00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:55,413
Speaker 13: cast of sugar. So there you go. Does exactly the

593
00:31:55,453 --> 00:31:58,213
Speaker 13: same thing. So thood of a cup of regular white sugar,

594
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Speaker 13: add in some butter that you've melted, seventy grams of butter.

595
00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:04,733
Speaker 13: This gives it that beautiful kind of soft texture to

596
00:32:04,773 --> 00:32:07,453
Speaker 13: the cake b and whisk that together, and then in

597
00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:10,253
Speaker 13: a food processor. You want to take half a large

598
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Speaker 13: kind of orange. Now we're going to blitz that skin

599
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Speaker 13: and all. But what I would say is if it's

600
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Speaker 13: a if you cut the orange in half and it

601
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Speaker 13: is particularly pithy, then maybe scrape off some of the

602
00:32:21,253 --> 00:32:24,053
Speaker 13: skin just with a knife, and then take and then

603
00:32:24,093 --> 00:32:26,213
Speaker 13: take and remove some of that piff and then just

604
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Speaker 13: use the flesh and the skin, if you know what

605
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Speaker 13: I mean. It doesn't really matter. It's just that the

606
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:32,173
Speaker 13: pith is nice, but it can be a bit bitter

607
00:32:32,213 --> 00:32:34,253
Speaker 13: if you've got too much in there. And every orange

608
00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:36,293
Speaker 13: is different. So do that into a pulp and then

609
00:32:36,373 --> 00:32:40,333
Speaker 13: add add in the flour you want to make, sorry,

610
00:32:40,373 --> 00:32:42,293
Speaker 13: you want to add in the flour, baking powder and

611
00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:45,813
Speaker 13: almonds into the orange. Steer that until it's combined, and

612
00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:48,493
Speaker 13: then add that into your sugar and egg mix and

613
00:32:48,533 --> 00:32:52,413
Speaker 13: butter and just sort of stir that around until it's combined. Oh,

614
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Speaker 13: I've got a teaspoon of baking powder in there, half

615
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Speaker 13: a cup of flour. I didn't give you those, and

616
00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:59,373
Speaker 13: two heap tablespoons of ground almonds. Again, it gives that

617
00:32:59,413 --> 00:33:03,053
Speaker 13: lovely soft texture if your batter is just a little

618
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Speaker 13: bit too stiff, add one to two tablespoons of milk,

619
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Speaker 13: and then scrape that batter into your greased oven dish.

620
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Speaker 13: And then what we're going to do is like that

621
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Speaker 13: old self saucing pudding. We're going to mix back in

622
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Speaker 13: the batter bowl. I just use not to make any

623
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Speaker 13: more dishes. One and a half cups of boiling water.

624
00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:19,813
Speaker 13: I juice the remaining half of the orange. I've got

625
00:33:19,853 --> 00:33:21,813
Speaker 13: a third of a cup of brown sugar, just kind

626
00:33:21,813 --> 00:33:26,573
Speaker 13: of loosely packed, and a teaspoon rather of cornflour that

627
00:33:26,813 --> 00:33:29,573
Speaker 13: just helps it thinking just a little bit. So mix

628
00:33:29,653 --> 00:33:32,573
Speaker 13: all of that together and then gently pour that if

629
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Speaker 13: you like, if you're going to be ready technical, over

630
00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:37,293
Speaker 13: the back of a spoon over onto the batter. If

631
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:38,733
Speaker 13: you just pour it over the batter, it will make

632
00:33:38,733 --> 00:33:40,933
Speaker 13: a little divot in it, which is not ideal. I

633
00:33:41,013 --> 00:33:43,133
Speaker 13: wanted to sit on top of that batter, bake it

634
00:33:43,173 --> 00:33:45,253
Speaker 13: for about thirty five forty minutes, or until the sort

635
00:33:45,253 --> 00:33:47,893
Speaker 13: of cake but is cooked through. You'll have this beautiful

636
00:33:47,973 --> 00:33:51,133
Speaker 13: sticky kind of sauce around it. Let it settle just

637
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Speaker 13: ever so briefly after you've taken it out of the

638
00:33:53,693 --> 00:33:56,053
Speaker 13: out of the oven and serve it with our favorites

639
00:33:56,133 --> 00:33:59,693
Speaker 13: jack ice cream, whipped cream, yogurt or all three, maybe

640
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Speaker 13: even custard.

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Speaker 12: Actually I didn't know it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and it's divine. It's so delicious. You could use

643
00:34:07,173 --> 00:34:09,733
Speaker 13: any citrus for this. You could use I've sometimes used

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Speaker 13: orange and lemon, but mandarin had work too, Tangerine, it'd work.

645
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Speaker 5: So just go.

646
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Speaker 2: That's interesting. You cook with a mandarin.

647
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Speaker 13: You can cook with a mandarin. Is such a beautiful flavor.

648
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Speaker 13: It's really hard to get the piff off of mandarins,

649
00:34:26,013 --> 00:34:28,133
Speaker 13: I've got to tell you. Yeah, and it's quite strong,

650
00:34:28,253 --> 00:34:31,053
Speaker 13: so you know, it's just a whole different flavor. It's beautiful.

651
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Speaker 11: Yeah, So this is great.

652
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Speaker 13: It's just the dish we need. Imagine imagine watching the

653
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Speaker 13: rugby and tucking into a little bowl of this too.

654
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking I'm not going to have to imagine nicky,

655
00:34:39,813 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking.

656
00:34:41,973 --> 00:34:43,333
Speaker 13: I'm thinking, that's true.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, fantastic. All right, Well, make

658
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Speaker 2: sure of course that that is up and available on

659
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Speaker 2: the news talks he'd be website. None of the ingredients

660
00:34:51,693 --> 00:34:53,293
Speaker 2: there are too complicated. In the fact that feels like

661
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Speaker 2: the kind of recipe maybe with the exception of the

662
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Speaker 2: ground almonds, if you don't have enough almond meal at home.

663
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:00,213
Speaker 2: We've definitely got almond meal at home because as we

664
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Speaker 2: all know, if you want to cake this nice and moist,

665
00:35:02,013 --> 00:35:04,333
Speaker 2: you got to cook it with almond meal that you

666
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Speaker 2: can cook it. You can cook it at home without

667
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Speaker 2: having to go to the supermarket today. But yeah, we'll

668
00:35:08,413 --> 00:35:10,973
Speaker 2: make sure that is available very shortly. Right now, it

669
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Speaker 2: is eight minutes to ten. You've a Jack Tam. It's

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning and this is news doorg z'b.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 2: For the entire election cycle, the mainstream media have turned

675
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Speaker 2: a blind eye to Biden's state of health, says Ryan.

676
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Speaker 2: Thanks Ryan, I think there's a reasonable criticism to be

677
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Speaker 2: made that people have maybe and media perhaps has not

678
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Speaker 2: taken Biden's health as seriously as they might have, and

679
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Speaker 2: maybe the kind of there's a bit to be given

680
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Speaker 2: on both sides here, you know, like I've seen some

681
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Speaker 2: images of Biden looking kind of bewildered at public events before,

682
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Speaker 2: but you've seen the ways in which those images have

683
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Speaker 2: been edited. The thing that was really amazing about the debate, though, Ryan,

684
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Speaker 2: was that I think it was kind of laid bare

685
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Speaker 2: for everyone in that moment. There was no manipulation of

686
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Speaker 2: the video. There was nothing that you could dispute that

687
00:36:07,093 --> 00:36:10,813
Speaker 2: he just clearly wasn't coherent in that night. It's also

688
00:36:10,853 --> 00:36:15,293
Speaker 2: interesting just to compare Joe Biden's sharpness today with his

689
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Speaker 2: sharpness of four years ago, like he does seem totally

690
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Speaker 2: different and really intriguing. Right to take your criticism and

691
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Speaker 2: look at George Clooney's op ed in the New York

692
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Speaker 2: Times this week. So Clooney said that he was at

693
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Speaker 2: a fundraiser a month or so ago with Joe Biden

694
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Speaker 2: and it was clear to him then that Joe Biden

695
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Speaker 2: of today was not the same as Joe Biden of

696
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Speaker 2: four years ago. And I think an entirely reasonable question

697
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Speaker 2: is why are we only hearing about that now? Why

698
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Speaker 2: are we only hearing about that now that he's had

699
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Speaker 2: this public meltdown? You know, I think totally legitimate there, Ryan,

700
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Speaker 2: So thank you for that. If you want to flick

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Speaker 2: email address after ten o'clock if you are looking for

704
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Speaker 2: a good show to watch your stream after the rugby

705
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Speaker 2: this weekend, We've got three shows to recommend in our

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Speaker 2: screen time, including Colin from Accounts, the latest season of

707
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Speaker 2: Colin from Accounts Love a TV show that has the

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Speaker 2: dullest name possible. They've kind of gone It's not like Twisters, right,

709
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Speaker 2: like you know with the movie Twisters that Yeah, you're

710
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Speaker 2: probably going to be getting some action. Oh, let's watch

711
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Speaker 2: a show called column from Accounts. Yeah, okay maybe anyway,

712
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Speaker 2: we'll tell you about the new season of that after

713
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock this morning. And while we do that, a

714
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Speaker 2: question for you to ponder. How many millionaires are there

715
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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. We're talking net wealth, so you know,

716
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Speaker 2: takeing the equity that you might have in a family home.

717
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Speaker 2: How many millionaire households do reck and there are in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. We'll tell you after ten o'clock and let

719
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Speaker 2: me tell you this, the answer might surprise you. A

720
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Speaker 2: feature interview right after the news, Nick Robinson from shapeshifter

721
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Speaker 2: celebrating twenty five years. It is almost ten o'clock though

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Speaker 2: News is Next Hit is Saturday Morning. I'm Jack dam

723
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Speaker 2: and this is News dogs Vy.

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Speaker 2: Oh get you going? Does it not? It gets you going?

728
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Speaker 2: The pioneers of one of New Zealand's most popular music

729
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Speaker 2: genres have been celebrating twenty five years together. Yeah, it

730
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Speaker 2: is the twenty fifth anniversary the formation of shape Shifter

731
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Speaker 2: crazy A They formed in christ Jurch nineteen ninety nine,

732
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Speaker 2: and you would have to say have carved out an

733
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Speaker 2: incredible career since seven albums, four EPs. And yet after

734
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Speaker 2: twenty five years, shape Shifter is showing no signs of stopping,

735
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Speaker 2: with big plans for the summer ahead. Nick Robinson from

736
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Speaker 2: shape Shifter is with us this morning, Kilder Nick.

737
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Speaker 15: Jodo, Well, I'm feeling good about myself after that introduction?

738
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Speaker 2: Are you feeling I'm just going to say, this is

739
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Speaker 2: someone who has been around and enjoying your music for

740
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Speaker 2: all of those twenty five years. Dear, I asked, does

741
00:39:56,613 --> 00:39:57,813
Speaker 2: it make you feel a little bit?

742
00:39:57,893 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 9: I don't know old, Yeah, it does.

743
00:40:02,293 --> 00:40:04,653
Speaker 15: And you know, like sort of building up to this

744
00:40:04,693 --> 00:40:08,453
Speaker 15: twenty five year thing, it was almost like, oh, you know.

745
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Speaker 9: That is that a good look? Are we too old?

746
00:40:12,413 --> 00:40:12,613
Speaker 16: You know?

747
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Speaker 9: Like, you know, I don't feel old.

748
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Speaker 2: I don't think you're old. I don't think you're old.

749
00:40:18,453 --> 00:40:20,933
Speaker 2: I don't think disolved. No, no, no, but I mean

750
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Speaker 2: this is the thing, right like we're looking at the

751
00:40:25,733 --> 00:40:29,093
Speaker 2: twenty fifth anniversary and considering, you know, what you guys

752
00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:32,053
Speaker 2: have achieved over the last couple of decades. It's it

753
00:40:32,133 --> 00:40:35,733
Speaker 2: is a pretty like substantial achievement. Can you can you

754
00:40:35,853 --> 00:40:38,333
Speaker 2: distill the success for us? Why? You know, why do

755
00:40:38,373 --> 00:40:41,493
Speaker 2: you think we are here after twenty five years of music,

756
00:40:41,613 --> 00:40:43,093
Speaker 2: still celebrating Shape Shifter?

757
00:40:44,733 --> 00:40:46,573
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think ferously.

758
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Speaker 15: I just reaching the twenty five years is probably the

759
00:40:49,093 --> 00:40:52,453
Speaker 15: proudest thing we've all felt the whole time, just actually

760
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Speaker 15: being able to stay together and remain such good friends.

761
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Speaker 15: And you know, we're more than friends, We're family. And

762
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Speaker 15: I think, you know, our relationship as a band has

763
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Speaker 15: been what's got us through, and it's it's and you know,

764
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Speaker 15: we all respect each other so much as musicians and

765
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Speaker 15: as friends, we're willing to flex there's no ego there,

766
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Speaker 15: so I think we can sort of bounce off each

767
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Speaker 15: other and.

768
00:41:17,933 --> 00:41:21,133
Speaker 9: Get the best results. And you know, really sort of

769
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Speaker 9: it's just been so enjoyable.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, there's been ups and downs, but it's

771
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Speaker 15: twenty five years, but I feel like the fire inside

772
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Speaker 15: and I look forward to gags and I really look

773
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Speaker 15: forward to going away on tour with the boys, and look.

774
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Speaker 9: Forward to getting in the studio. So I think it's just,

775
00:41:37,213 --> 00:41:38,373
Speaker 9: you know, passion's.

776
00:41:37,973 --> 00:41:41,573
Speaker 15: Still there, and we just sort of love what we do,

777
00:41:41,693 --> 00:41:45,133
Speaker 15: and we sort of love the way we've done it

778
00:41:44,933 --> 00:41:48,053
Speaker 15: on our own terms and never tried to write hat

779
00:41:48,093 --> 00:41:50,253
Speaker 15: songs or anything, and just.

780
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Speaker 9: Sort of enjoy it. And it's sort of played out luckily.

781
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Speaker 2: So for our listeners who might not be totally familiar

782
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Speaker 2: with every part of the shape shift A story. Can

783
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Speaker 2: you take us back to the genesis? Can you take

784
00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:05,093
Speaker 2: us back to nineteen ninety nine life and christ Church

785
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Speaker 2: and how you guys came together and started making music.

786
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we were at the jazz school. We met at

787
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Speaker 9: the Jazz School in christ Church.

788
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Speaker 2: And I studied right around the corner from the jazz school.

789
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Speaker 2: What was that pub called on the Dress Street?

790
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Speaker 9: Can you remember, you'd be thinking of the jet Set Lounge.

791
00:42:21,653 --> 00:42:23,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, the jet Zet Lounge.

792
00:42:23,293 --> 00:42:28,613
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, yes, so yeah, many nights spent, you know,

793
00:42:28,733 --> 00:42:32,573
Speaker 15: drinking the drugs of spats and orange juice or whatever

794
00:42:32,613 --> 00:42:35,133
Speaker 15: you wanted to drink. But yeah, great times the ra

795
00:42:35,333 --> 00:42:37,133
Speaker 15: But yeah, we were all together in the jazz school

796
00:42:37,173 --> 00:42:40,733
Speaker 15: and we were put into an ensemble together, so you

797
00:42:40,773 --> 00:42:43,293
Speaker 15: get put into jazz groups, and we were actually put

798
00:42:43,333 --> 00:42:46,533
Speaker 15: together and just sort of headed off. We just had

799
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Speaker 15: such a great time and we started playing all different

800
00:42:50,413 --> 00:42:51,173
Speaker 15: types of music.

801
00:42:51,213 --> 00:42:54,293
Speaker 9: And at the time in christ Church, druman Base was

802
00:42:54,573 --> 00:42:56,373
Speaker 9: pretty getting pretty big.

803
00:42:56,453 --> 00:42:59,813
Speaker 15: You know, there were UK drum and Bassed DJ's coming

804
00:42:59,813 --> 00:43:02,493
Speaker 15: and there were lines around the corner you know for

805
00:43:02,533 --> 00:43:05,373
Speaker 15: these acts, and we loved it. It was kind of

806
00:43:05,413 --> 00:43:08,613
Speaker 15: like a new cutting edge music and we love that

807
00:43:08,693 --> 00:43:11,973
Speaker 15: sort of jazz was was like that when it was

808
00:43:12,893 --> 00:43:14,933
Speaker 15: when it was new, you know, so we wanted to

809
00:43:14,973 --> 00:43:19,253
Speaker 15: be on the edge of what of modern music, So

810
00:43:19,293 --> 00:43:22,493
Speaker 15: we sort of you know, our drummer at the time, Redford,

811
00:43:22,653 --> 00:43:25,733
Speaker 15: had this crazy ability to play anything, like he was

812
00:43:25,813 --> 00:43:29,853
Speaker 15: just the heart behind the behind the bands. Yeah, and

813
00:43:29,893 --> 00:43:33,653
Speaker 15: we and we just sort of started mimicking drum and

814
00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:37,773
Speaker 15: Bassed DJs, but in a live situation. So that's how

815
00:43:37,813 --> 00:43:40,613
Speaker 15: we kind of kicked off and it and it seemed

816
00:43:40,613 --> 00:43:41,413
Speaker 15: to go down pretty well.

817
00:43:41,453 --> 00:43:44,053
Speaker 9: And then in a short sort of space of time where.

818
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Speaker 15: We're touring with Salwanella dub Yep and that really kicked

819
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Speaker 15: everything off.

820
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Speaker 2: It isn't it amazing how you know to compare those

821
00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:56,213
Speaker 2: different genres of music, right, because if you were just

822
00:43:56,253 --> 00:43:58,093
Speaker 2: to just to take them at face value, a lot

823
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:01,333
Speaker 2: of people would say, well, what does drum and bass

824
00:44:01,373 --> 00:44:05,653
Speaker 2: have to do with jazz? But actually it's you know,

825
00:44:05,693 --> 00:44:07,373
Speaker 2: the kind of muw that you guys have tried to

826
00:44:07,413 --> 00:44:11,253
Speaker 2: make where you're pushing boundaries has a lot in common

827
00:44:11,373 --> 00:44:14,333
Speaker 2: with Do you think having that that jazz background, and

828
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:18,253
Speaker 2: that not necessarily theoretical background, but having studied music in

829
00:44:18,293 --> 00:44:20,053
Speaker 2: the way that you do when you go through jazz school,

830
00:44:20,053 --> 00:44:22,773
Speaker 2: do you think that that ultimately benefits your music?

831
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:25,333
Speaker 15: I think it does in the long run, but you

832
00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:29,333
Speaker 15: have to kind of shake all that knowledge and go

833
00:44:29,453 --> 00:44:32,693
Speaker 15: back to the basics. And drummond bases are pretty simple,

834
00:44:33,373 --> 00:44:37,093
Speaker 15: repetitive music a lot of the time, but you know,

835
00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:40,973
Speaker 15: the nuances are in the in the slight core differences

836
00:44:41,053 --> 00:44:44,493
Speaker 15: within the different since and and so there's there's complication there,

837
00:44:44,533 --> 00:44:47,733
Speaker 15: but it comes across pretty pretty simple. So you do

838
00:44:47,853 --> 00:44:50,653
Speaker 15: kind of have to have to shake that like that

839
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:52,653
Speaker 15: sort of jazz thing where you're trying to play as

840
00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:56,533
Speaker 15: much as you can, you know. But I think, you know,

841
00:44:57,133 --> 00:45:00,173
Speaker 15: a lot of it was meeting people at the jazz school,

842
00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:04,893
Speaker 15: and you know, and I think if you like jazz,

843
00:45:04,933 --> 00:45:06,813
Speaker 15: you probably like a lot of other type to music

844
00:45:06,853 --> 00:45:10,533
Speaker 15: as well. We were never really jazz purists, but yeah,

845
00:45:10,693 --> 00:45:12,813
Speaker 15: going to the school itself is such a great environment

846
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:16,813
Speaker 15: to meet people and you know, the future sort of

847
00:45:17,533 --> 00:45:18,613
Speaker 15: musicians of New Zealand.

848
00:45:19,453 --> 00:45:22,853
Speaker 2: How do you continue to feed creativity after you've been

849
00:45:23,373 --> 00:45:26,613
Speaker 2: playing music with you know, your mates and playing playing

850
00:45:26,693 --> 00:45:30,213
Speaker 2: music with the same people for a large slab of

851
00:45:30,253 --> 00:45:34,573
Speaker 2: your life, how do you how do you keep it fresh?

852
00:45:34,653 --> 00:45:37,693
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's that's an interesting one. We have to freshen

853
00:45:37,773 --> 00:45:39,133
Speaker 15: up a lot, you know, we have to sort of

854
00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:43,973
Speaker 15: live our own lives as well. You know, it can't

855
00:45:43,973 --> 00:45:47,973
Speaker 15: be too too focused, you know, and we've all got

856
00:45:47,973 --> 00:45:51,293
Speaker 15: our own interests and you know, we can get away

857
00:45:51,293 --> 00:45:55,213
Speaker 15: from it and then come back and and just I

858
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:55,853
Speaker 15: think it's.

859
00:45:55,693 --> 00:45:56,573
Speaker 9: Just all of it.

860
00:45:56,573 --> 00:45:59,693
Speaker 15: It's in our personalities since we were all young, you know,

861
00:45:59,733 --> 00:46:03,133
Speaker 15: we've all sort of been really interested in writing music

862
00:46:03,173 --> 00:46:07,333
Speaker 15: and and and getting inspired by music that we hear

863
00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:09,093
Speaker 15: as well. So I think, you know, that's probably the

864
00:46:09,733 --> 00:46:14,413
Speaker 15: main thing. Getting inspired by all different types of music,

865
00:46:14,493 --> 00:46:17,973
Speaker 15: and getting inspired by not just music but by other

866
00:46:18,013 --> 00:46:20,413
Speaker 15: people being successful in what they do. You know, it's

867
00:46:20,493 --> 00:46:24,173
Speaker 15: quite inspiring as well. Yeah, so I think, yeah, just

868
00:46:24,653 --> 00:46:27,333
Speaker 15: the fire is still there to kind of prove it

869
00:46:27,373 --> 00:46:32,453
Speaker 15: to ourselves, and also just the basic fact of listening

870
00:46:32,493 --> 00:46:35,013
Speaker 15: to something going, oh that's cool. Yeah, I love that,

871
00:46:35,093 --> 00:46:36,853
Speaker 15: you know, that makes me feel something that makes me

872
00:46:36,893 --> 00:46:41,093
Speaker 15: feel sad, or it makes me feel nostalgic or you

873
00:46:41,133 --> 00:46:42,893
Speaker 15: know those sort of things.

874
00:46:42,893 --> 00:46:44,893
Speaker 9: It's just it's a buzz to actually do.

875
00:46:45,493 --> 00:46:49,053
Speaker 2: So as someone who consumes music and you know, and

876
00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:52,453
Speaker 2: loves listening to music but doesn't have to make music

877
00:46:52,453 --> 00:46:55,613
Speaker 2: for a living, I'm really interested in this concept because

878
00:46:56,013 --> 00:46:58,413
Speaker 2: the way I listen to music now, like lots of people,

879
00:46:58,613 --> 00:47:02,293
Speaker 2: is through streaming platforms and through Spotify, right, And there's

880
00:47:02,413 --> 00:47:07,573
Speaker 2: whatever complicated algorithm behind the machine that sees Jack like this,

881
00:47:07,813 --> 00:47:10,813
Speaker 2: Therefore he'll like this. Therefore he'll like this, And it

882
00:47:10,893 --> 00:47:14,173
Speaker 2: kind of feeds you a pretty steady diet and I

883
00:47:14,693 --> 00:47:16,893
Speaker 2: you know, when you're just sitting there kind of mindlessly

884
00:47:16,893 --> 00:47:19,693
Speaker 2: listening to music, that's great, But I would have thought

885
00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:22,293
Speaker 2: that as a creative there is a little bit of

886
00:47:22,293 --> 00:47:24,893
Speaker 2: a risk if you're relying on those kind of systems,

887
00:47:24,973 --> 00:47:27,973
Speaker 2: because actually it's just it's just feeding your stuff you

888
00:47:28,013 --> 00:47:31,173
Speaker 2: already know and like, and it's maybe not maybe not

889
00:47:31,253 --> 00:47:34,653
Speaker 2: challenging you to be inspired or creative in a way

890
00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:36,933
Speaker 2: that you might otherwise have been. Is that is that okay?

891
00:47:37,693 --> 00:47:38,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely.

892
00:47:38,373 --> 00:47:41,573
Speaker 15: And I think a lot of the time it would

893
00:47:41,573 --> 00:47:46,773
Speaker 15: be a case of what record company has got the

894
00:47:46,773 --> 00:47:52,853
Speaker 15: best relationship with Spotify? Yeah, true, and pushing the artists

895
00:47:52,893 --> 00:47:53,653
Speaker 15: onto playlists.

896
00:47:53,733 --> 00:47:57,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, yeah, things like that. So so a.

897
00:47:57,333 --> 00:48:00,333
Speaker 15: Lot of it, you know, Spotify is great for listening

898
00:48:00,413 --> 00:48:03,853
Speaker 15: and I've got Spotify, yep, and and I've been through

899
00:48:03,893 --> 00:48:05,813
Speaker 15: the same journey as you and getting fed this.

900
00:48:05,893 --> 00:48:08,413
Speaker 9: Music and what's this This is cool? And oh that's

901
00:48:08,413 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 9: related to these artists and oh I never knew about

902
00:48:11,053 --> 00:48:13,453
Speaker 9: all this. This is great. So there is that too,

903
00:48:13,533 --> 00:48:16,573
Speaker 9: But yeah, a lot of it as well was sort.

904
00:48:16,373 --> 00:48:19,213
Speaker 15: Of going on your own search, and it's not just Spotify.

905
00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:23,173
Speaker 15: There's other sort of you know platforms you can buy music,

906
00:48:24,453 --> 00:48:26,133
Speaker 15: your beat ports and your things like that that have

907
00:48:26,173 --> 00:48:29,213
Speaker 15: got yeah, I don't know, twenty thousand new songs coming

908
00:48:29,253 --> 00:48:32,773
Speaker 15: out of day, you know, so you can sort of

909
00:48:33,093 --> 00:48:35,853
Speaker 15: go on your own journey and find music.

910
00:48:35,653 --> 00:48:38,093
Speaker 9: You like like that. But yeah, the world is really

911
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:42,533
Speaker 9: sort of wrapped up in a Spotify trap almost.

912
00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:43,013
Speaker 8: Yeah.

913
00:48:43,293 --> 00:48:45,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, you know, when you guys are creating,

914
00:48:46,013 --> 00:48:48,613
Speaker 2: like you said, you feel inspired sometimes, like you hear

915
00:48:48,653 --> 00:48:50,493
Speaker 2: something new and you go, oh, man, that's that's cool,

916
00:48:50,493 --> 00:48:52,213
Speaker 2: when it might lead you down a path where you

917
00:48:52,533 --> 00:48:54,453
Speaker 2: create something that's a little bit different than you might

918
00:48:54,453 --> 00:48:57,253
Speaker 2: have otherwise created, Like you're kind of you're conscious of

919
00:48:57,253 --> 00:48:58,813
Speaker 2: that that phenomenon, I suppose.

920
00:49:00,253 --> 00:49:03,733
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I think you have to sort of get inspired.

921
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:05,893
Speaker 15: But then you can't be like I really wanted to

922
00:49:05,933 --> 00:49:12,293
Speaker 15: write a track like yes, you know, yeah, there's.

923
00:49:12,093 --> 00:49:12,773
Speaker 9: So much of it.

924
00:49:12,773 --> 00:49:14,973
Speaker 15: It's so easy to do too, because you listen to

925
00:49:14,973 --> 00:49:16,653
Speaker 15: it and you feel like a kid and you're like, oh,

926
00:49:16,693 --> 00:49:18,573
Speaker 15: I want to be like that, you know, yeah, you know,

927
00:49:18,813 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 15: just natural, so you kind of got to. But that's

928
00:49:22,493 --> 00:49:25,653
Speaker 15: the thing about getting to the studio with with people.

929
00:49:26,573 --> 00:49:29,093
Speaker 15: No one's got the same vision in their head. And

930
00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:32,093
Speaker 15: then you're like, oh, this is like, where's this going.

931
00:49:32,133 --> 00:49:34,333
Speaker 15: This isn't what I thought it was going to do.

932
00:49:34,653 --> 00:49:36,813
Speaker 15: But because I'm flexible and I trust the other guys,

933
00:49:36,813 --> 00:49:39,333
Speaker 15: you know, it's like, well this is cool, and we're

934
00:49:39,373 --> 00:49:41,293
Speaker 15: all thinking that, and all of a sudden, this, the

935
00:49:41,453 --> 00:49:46,133
Speaker 15: song or this idea is like its own living entity

936
00:49:46,573 --> 00:49:49,213
Speaker 15: that doesn't belong to any of us. It's its own thing,

937
00:49:49,253 --> 00:49:50,253
Speaker 15: you know. So it's kind of cool.

938
00:49:50,293 --> 00:49:52,213
Speaker 9: It's almost like magic in a way.

939
00:49:52,813 --> 00:49:56,893
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about it before the interview. I

940
00:49:56,933 --> 00:49:59,253
Speaker 2: Reckon shape Shifter would have a good claim. I don't

941
00:49:59,293 --> 00:50:00,933
Speaker 2: know how you ever quantify this, but I Reckon shape

942
00:50:00,933 --> 00:50:04,693
Speaker 2: Shifter has a good claim to having played and headlined

943
00:50:04,773 --> 00:50:08,333
Speaker 2: more festivals in New Zealand literally any other artist or

944
00:50:08,373 --> 00:50:13,213
Speaker 2: band ever. I mean that it would be up there, right,

945
00:50:13,693 --> 00:50:14,053
Speaker 2: I'm not.

946
00:50:14,133 --> 00:50:16,853
Speaker 9: Probably would be because I mean, yeah, the length of

947
00:50:16,933 --> 00:50:18,773
Speaker 9: time and we have been doing.

948
00:50:19,253 --> 00:50:23,373
Speaker 2: Yeah it's the sound baby, yeah. Yeah. And so if

949
00:50:23,373 --> 00:50:27,293
Speaker 2: that's the case, what would you say is the key

950
00:50:27,453 --> 00:50:29,893
Speaker 2: to a good festival? What makes a good festival?

951
00:50:31,293 --> 00:50:33,813
Speaker 15: Well, you could the sort of the boring side of

952
00:50:33,853 --> 00:50:36,573
Speaker 15: it that you don't think about much, as the security,

953
00:50:37,013 --> 00:50:40,933
Speaker 15: the amount of toilets, and the amount of bar people

954
00:50:40,933 --> 00:50:44,493
Speaker 15: can get. Yeah, but you would be surprised, like if

955
00:50:44,493 --> 00:50:45,733
Speaker 15: that that's in order.

956
00:50:46,413 --> 00:50:48,973
Speaker 9: You see a happy crowd and you feel a happy crowd.

957
00:50:49,413 --> 00:50:51,133
Speaker 9: If you have you play to a.

958
00:50:51,093 --> 00:50:55,973
Speaker 15: Crowd the tired a little bit annoyed, you can feel

959
00:50:55,973 --> 00:50:56,373
Speaker 15: that too.

960
00:50:57,093 --> 00:50:58,933
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think.

961
00:51:00,213 --> 00:51:04,013
Speaker 15: A good festival is for me would be a variety

962
00:51:04,053 --> 00:51:07,053
Speaker 15: of different music, so you're not just sort of listening

963
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:10,653
Speaker 15: to the same drum and bass beat for ten hours,

964
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:15,253
Speaker 15: you know, or something like that. So a good variety, yeah,

965
00:51:15,293 --> 00:51:18,173
Speaker 15: and just and just the festival, the people running the

966
00:51:18,173 --> 00:51:19,933
Speaker 15: festival just making it.

967
00:51:19,813 --> 00:51:23,133
Speaker 9: Easy for people to do what they need to do.

968
00:51:23,293 --> 00:51:26,133
Speaker 15: Yeah, the amount of space so they're not sort of

969
00:51:26,173 --> 00:51:29,773
Speaker 15: crammed in and bumping shoulders and things like that.

970
00:51:30,533 --> 00:51:34,773
Speaker 9: So yeah, I would say.

971
00:51:32,933 --> 00:51:38,053
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe clear Skies probably as the final element, guys.

972
00:51:38,373 --> 00:51:41,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, although we did we did a gig Electric Avenue

973
00:51:41,053 --> 00:51:44,533
Speaker 15: in christ Church and it started rating as we played

974
00:51:44,573 --> 00:51:45,613
Speaker 15: and it was just magical.

975
00:51:45,733 --> 00:51:49,893
Speaker 2: Yeah see yeah, yeah yeah. Can you Okay, this is

976
00:51:49,933 --> 00:51:51,733
Speaker 2: a bit of a mean question, but can you think

977
00:51:52,653 --> 00:51:54,733
Speaker 2: is there a festival that stands out to you as

978
00:51:54,813 --> 00:51:58,413
Speaker 2: being like the most disastrous festival? And I know there's

979
00:51:58,413 --> 00:52:01,053
Speaker 2: nothing on the kind of fire festival scale. But is

980
00:52:01,093 --> 00:52:02,573
Speaker 2: there is there one that you can think of in

981
00:52:02,693 --> 00:52:04,773
Speaker 2: your in your past that stands out.

982
00:52:05,493 --> 00:52:07,853
Speaker 9: All that's in my head that in the woodstock.

983
00:52:08,653 --> 00:52:17,533
Speaker 17: But I was thinking, oh, I can't, I can't think

984
00:52:17,533 --> 00:52:19,453
Speaker 17: of one off off the back of my head.

985
00:52:19,493 --> 00:52:21,533
Speaker 2: I mean it must be weather orlated, right, like if

986
00:52:21,573 --> 00:52:23,773
Speaker 2: there was a in one that is kind of washed

987
00:52:23,773 --> 00:52:25,933
Speaker 2: out and everyone's a knee deep mud or something like

988
00:52:25,973 --> 00:52:26,973
Speaker 2: that exactly.

989
00:52:27,053 --> 00:52:29,453
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think years back we were running crag.

990
00:52:31,893 --> 00:52:35,693
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, we had a we had a year where

991
00:52:36,373 --> 00:52:38,893
Speaker 15: the creek came right up and washed him being away

992
00:52:38,973 --> 00:52:40,613
Speaker 15: and we had just been one hundred grand on a

993
00:52:40,653 --> 00:52:45,893
Speaker 15: gravel road and oh yeah, so we could go on

994
00:52:45,973 --> 00:52:49,133
Speaker 15: and on about whether we have Yeah, weather's enemy.

995
00:52:49,293 --> 00:52:53,813
Speaker 2: You've become like that absolute like meteorological expert for about

996
00:52:53,853 --> 00:52:58,333
Speaker 2: four months a year. Yeah. Hey, so almost out of time.

997
00:52:58,333 --> 00:53:00,013
Speaker 2: But to tell us about your plans this summer. What

998
00:53:00,013 --> 00:53:01,853
Speaker 2: what can we expect for your shows through summer?

999
00:53:03,493 --> 00:53:06,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, Well, we're sort of we're still vibing on this

1000
00:53:06,053 --> 00:53:10,093
Speaker 15: twenty five year things. So we've kind of got going

1001
00:53:10,173 --> 00:53:10,933
Speaker 15: to do a couple of.

1002
00:53:10,893 --> 00:53:12,893
Speaker 9: Things, nostalgia things.

1003
00:53:12,893 --> 00:53:15,973
Speaker 15: We're playing at the Coraglin Tavern in the twenty eighth

1004
00:53:15,973 --> 00:53:17,493
Speaker 15: of December, and that's that's.

1005
00:53:17,293 --> 00:53:18,973
Speaker 9: A place we used to play in the early days

1006
00:53:18,973 --> 00:53:19,653
Speaker 9: of all the time.

1007
00:53:21,453 --> 00:53:22,613
Speaker 15: You know, we've sort of been playing a lot of

1008
00:53:22,653 --> 00:53:25,493
Speaker 15: sort of bigger venues in recent years, so this has

1009
00:53:25,533 --> 00:53:27,293
Speaker 15: been really cool to go back. We did the town

1010
00:53:27,333 --> 00:53:31,733
Speaker 15: Halls a few weeks ago, and so we're going to

1011
00:53:31,813 --> 00:53:35,973
Speaker 15: be looking at Coragland Tavern and Black Barn and Havelock North.

1012
00:53:36,053 --> 00:53:39,013
Speaker 9: We're doing that on the seventh of December. That's a

1013
00:53:39,053 --> 00:53:40,613
Speaker 9: beautiful venue.

1014
00:53:41,453 --> 00:53:43,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, so just sort of those sort of venues and

1015
00:53:43,573 --> 00:53:45,693
Speaker 15: we're gonna and we're going to play some sort of

1016
00:53:45,693 --> 00:53:49,893
Speaker 15: of the oldest stuff that we played in our twenty

1017
00:53:49,933 --> 00:53:52,733
Speaker 15: five year tour and a bit of new stuff as well.

1018
00:53:52,773 --> 00:53:54,853
Speaker 9: And yeah, very good.

1019
00:53:55,093 --> 00:53:57,293
Speaker 2: Oh kat Waite, Hey, thank you so much for your time. Nick,

1020
00:53:57,333 --> 00:54:00,093
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. Congratulations on twenty five years and

1021
00:54:00,093 --> 00:54:01,533
Speaker 2: he's the twenty five more.

1022
00:54:02,053 --> 00:54:04,533
Speaker 15: Exactly twenty five more. Thanks for having me. It's an

1023
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:05,613
Speaker 15: honor to be on the show.

1024
00:54:06,813 --> 00:54:09,933
Speaker 2: That is Nick Robinson from Shape Shifter celebrating twenty five years.

1025
00:54:09,973 --> 00:54:12,293
Speaker 2: We've got all the details for their summer shows up

1026
00:54:12,373 --> 00:54:14,973
Speaker 2: on the News Talks. He'db website as well. Coming up

1027
00:54:15,013 --> 00:54:16,933
Speaker 2: before eleven o'clock on News Talks EDB, We're going to

1028
00:54:16,973 --> 00:54:19,093
Speaker 2: take a closer look at this Galaxy Ring, as in

1029
00:54:19,213 --> 00:54:23,013
Speaker 2: Samsung Galaxy Ring. So they reckon they being you know,

1030
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Speaker 2: the Internet reckons that this Galaxy Ring is maybe the

1031
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Speaker 2: best personal health tracker that has so far hit the

1032
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1033
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Speaker 2: it does your sleep cycles, all that kind of thing.

1034
00:54:36,053 --> 00:54:37,773
Speaker 2: We'll tell you a bit a little bit about it,

1035
00:54:37,813 --> 00:54:39,173
Speaker 2: and ow text Bird is going to give us his

1036
00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:41,253
Speaker 2: review before eleven o'clock. Next up, though, if you're looking

1037
00:54:41,293 --> 00:54:44,093
Speaker 2: for some good shows to watch, perhaps after the rugby

1038
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Speaker 2: this evening for the rest of the weekend over the

1039
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1040
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1044
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Speaker 2: EDB Hi Jack, great interview with Nick from shape Shifter.

1045
00:55:04,453 --> 00:55:07,493
Speaker 2: Their recent Auto Tuhy gig the Town Hall and christ

1046
00:55:07,573 --> 00:55:12,293
Speaker 2: Church was amazing, very talented, very talented people and apparently

1047
00:55:12,413 --> 00:55:14,853
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1048
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1050
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Speaker 2: This morning, it's twenty six past ten, which means it's

1051
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1052
00:55:26,493 --> 00:55:30,133
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1053
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1055
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Speaker 18: This is an intriguing new show. It's a dark thriller

1056
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Speaker 18: set in Japan, and it stars American actor Rashida Jones,

1057
00:55:42,933 --> 00:55:44,973
Speaker 18: who's done a lot of comedy in the past shows

1058
00:55:45,013 --> 00:55:47,773
Speaker 18: like parts of recreation in the office, but this is

1059
00:55:47,853 --> 00:55:50,053
Speaker 18: quite a different, more serious.

1060
00:55:49,773 --> 00:55:50,373
Speaker 11: Role for her.

1061
00:55:50,613 --> 00:55:53,373
Speaker 18: She's playing Suzie, who is an American woman living in

1062
00:55:53,453 --> 00:55:56,253
Speaker 18: Japan with her husband and son and when when the

1063
00:55:56,293 --> 00:55:59,413
Speaker 18: show begins, her family have just gone missing in a

1064
00:55:59,413 --> 00:56:02,293
Speaker 18: plane crash, and to compensate for the loss of her family,

1065
00:56:02,373 --> 00:56:05,933
Speaker 18: Susie is given a domestic robot from her husband's company

1066
00:56:05,973 --> 00:56:08,493
Speaker 18: to help around the house. And it's the first sign

1067
00:56:08,533 --> 00:56:11,333
Speaker 18: that Susie's husband wasn't being completely honest with her. She

1068
00:56:11,413 --> 00:56:13,973
Speaker 18: had no idea he worked in robotics, but he's made

1069
00:56:14,013 --> 00:56:16,333
Speaker 18: this robot for her, and this is where things get

1070
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:20,133
Speaker 18: really weird together. Susie and her robot are going to

1071
00:56:20,213 --> 00:56:22,693
Speaker 18: work out what actually happened to her husband and son.

1072
00:56:23,173 --> 00:56:25,973
Speaker 18: And when I read that synopsis, I thought, really, But

1073
00:56:26,493 --> 00:56:29,053
Speaker 18: in the show, it feels quite believable and plausible, and

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Speaker 18: it reminded me a bit of a mix between Black

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00:56:31,973 --> 00:56:34,253
Speaker 18: Mirror and Severance. You know, it's playing with her ideas

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00:56:34,253 --> 00:56:36,733
Speaker 18: about how technology is everywhere, how it can take over

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00:56:36,773 --> 00:56:39,213
Speaker 18: our lives, you know, not always for the better. It's

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Speaker 18: very stylish and slow and dark, and I'm not quite

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Speaker 18: sure if it's going to lean more into being a

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Speaker 18: conspiracy thriller or a sci fi sort of psychological drama.

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Speaker 18: But there's a lot going on here, some dark comedy

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00:56:52,253 --> 00:56:53,973
Speaker 18: as well. But don't let that plot put you off.

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Speaker 18: This is a quality show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds interesting, Sonny. That's on Apple TV Plus. A

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Speaker 2: new season of Colin from Accounts is on TV and

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Speaker 2: Z Plus.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Colin from Accounts is back this week. This is

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Speaker 18: the brilliant award winning Australian romantic comedy series. Season two

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00:57:09,573 --> 00:57:12,413
Speaker 18: drops on Wednesday on TVNZ Plus, but season one is

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00:57:12,453 --> 00:57:14,253
Speaker 18: on there now and if you're looking for something to

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00:57:14,253 --> 00:57:17,773
Speaker 18: watch this weekend that's warm and light and genuinely funny.

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Speaker 18: I can't recommend this more. This is about two strangers,

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00:57:20,533 --> 00:57:23,253
Speaker 18: Gordon and Ashley, who are involved in a car accident

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00:57:23,373 --> 00:57:25,773
Speaker 18: and as a result, they have to look after this

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00:57:25,893 --> 00:57:29,493
Speaker 18: stray injured dog together. They name the dog Colin from Accounts,

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Speaker 18: and the dog brings their two very messy lives together

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Speaker 18: and they begin to form each other. And the best

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Speaker 18: thing about the show is the chemistry between the two

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00:57:37,733 --> 00:57:41,213
Speaker 18: lead actors, played by Patrick Brammel and Harriet Dyer. They

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Speaker 18: also created and wrote the show, and they are married

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Speaker 18: in real life, so there's a lovely background to this.

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Speaker 18: And their characters have nothing in common except for the dog,

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00:57:49,613 --> 00:57:52,093
Speaker 18: but ye, some kind of connection there and they kind

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00:57:52,093 --> 00:57:54,213
Speaker 18: of balance each other out and it's just a lot

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Speaker 18: of fun and it's full of that really dry, sharp

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00:57:56,973 --> 00:57:59,173
Speaker 18: Australian sense of humor that yeah makes it.

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Speaker 2: Work so good. Yeah, can't wait for that Colin from

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00:58:01,493 --> 00:58:05,373
Speaker 2: account So that's on TVNZ Plus and on Netflix. Marcel

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00:58:05,493 --> 00:58:08,173
Speaker 2: the Shell with Shoe on Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Ending with something a little bit different today. This is

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00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:12,213
Speaker 18: a movie that came out a couple of years ago

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00:58:12,253 --> 00:58:14,373
Speaker 18: in cinemas, but it's just landed on Netflix and it's

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00:58:14,413 --> 00:58:18,253
Speaker 18: an absolute gem. It's about a tiny little talking shell

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00:58:18,493 --> 00:58:21,693
Speaker 18: named Marcel, and Marcel lives with his grandmother in an

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00:58:21,733 --> 00:58:25,733
Speaker 18: airbnb in America, and when a documentary maker comes to stay,

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00:58:25,773 --> 00:58:29,573
Speaker 18: he starts filming Marcel and helps Marcel become this global

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00:58:29,613 --> 00:58:33,493
Speaker 18: internet star, and that means Marcel can start looking for

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00:58:33,613 --> 00:58:36,973
Speaker 18: his shell family, who has been separated from It's a

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00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:39,493
Speaker 18: stop motion animation movie, but it's made as if it's

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Speaker 18: a real documentary. It's quite convincing, and you see the

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00:58:43,293 --> 00:58:46,213
Speaker 18: world through the eyes of this tiny little shell. Marcella's

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00:58:46,333 --> 00:58:49,053
Speaker 18: childlike and innocent, but also quite clever and charming and

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Speaker 18: perceptive about some of the weird things that us adults do.

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Speaker 18: You know, it's very heartwarming, not in a sweet, sickly way.

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Speaker 18: It's just a delight and perfect timing for the school holidays.

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Speaker 11: But this isn't just a.

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00:59:01,613 --> 00:59:02,253
Speaker 13: Kid's film, you know.

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Speaker 18: I don't think you're ever too old to watch a

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Speaker 18: movie like this.

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Speaker 2: It's jeff lovely, fantastic. Okay, this sounds great. Marcel the

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00:59:09,493 --> 00:59:12,053
Speaker 2: Shell with shoes on that's on Netflix. Don't say that

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Speaker 2: three times fast. That's complicated. Marcel the Shell's Shoes on

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00:59:15,133 --> 00:59:17,533
Speaker 2: Colin from Accounts is on TV and Z Plus Sunny's

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00:59:17,533 --> 00:59:19,493
Speaker 2: on Apple TV plus. All of those shows are up

1135
00:59:19,533 --> 00:59:22,373
Speaker 2: on the newstalk's 'B website. Just so you know, in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of minutes, the judge in Santa Fe,

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Speaker 2: New Mexico, has dismissed the case against Alec Baldwin, the

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00:59:30,893 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 2: movie star who was facing charges of involuntary manslaughter, apparently

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00:59:36,333 --> 00:59:39,653
Speaker 2: because the judge found that the state, as in New

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00:59:39,693 --> 00:59:43,333
Speaker 2: Mexico improperly withheld evidence in the case. So in the

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00:59:43,413 --> 00:59:46,653
Speaker 2: last couple of minutes the charges have been dismissed. The

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00:59:46,693 --> 00:59:49,293
Speaker 2: case has been dismissed. Alec Baldwin is free to go.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more of that in our news when it

1144
00:59:51,173 --> 00:59:53,093
Speaker 2: comes up at eleven o'clock. Right now, it's just gone

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00:59:53,173 --> 00:59:55,413
Speaker 2: ten thirty with Jack Tame on Newstalks.

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Speaker 1: EDB, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

1147
01:00:02,653 --> 01:00:04,533
Speaker 1: Team on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 19: Please stands du dand up.

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Speaker 2: Is also twenty five years old. Shape Shift is twenty

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01:00:26,693 --> 01:00:30,773
Speaker 2: five years old. So is Slim Shady Eminem's provocative alter

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01:00:30,893 --> 01:00:34,413
Speaker 2: ego nineteen ninety nine that came out on the Slim

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01:00:34,413 --> 01:00:35,293
Speaker 2: Shady LP.

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01:00:36,093 --> 01:00:36,173
Speaker 9: So.

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01:00:36,293 --> 01:00:40,253
Speaker 2: Eminem was born Marshall Mathers. He was raised in Detroit

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01:00:40,293 --> 01:00:43,453
Speaker 2: in a low income, majority African American neighborhood. And he

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01:00:43,613 --> 01:00:45,973
Speaker 2: used rap as a bit of an escape. And you

1157
01:00:46,053 --> 01:00:48,133
Speaker 2: got to say, even if you don't love his music,

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01:00:48,173 --> 01:00:51,533
Speaker 2: you can probably appreciate that he's pretty talented when it

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01:00:51,573 --> 01:00:54,613
Speaker 2: comes to the kind of flow that he has in

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01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:57,573
Speaker 2: his rap. He I think honed it through years of

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Speaker 2: competing in spectacular rap battles. He also has a bit

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Speaker 2: of a punchan for controversy. It has to be said,

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01:01:04,293 --> 01:01:07,733
Speaker 2: Eminem often name drops the various people in his lyrics.

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01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:11,013
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to speak his opinions publicly anyway. He

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01:01:11,093 --> 01:01:15,453
Speaker 2: has just released his twelfth album amidst an ongoing wave

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Speaker 2: of Naughty's revivalism, and he's announced he's killing Slim Shady off.

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Speaker 2: So the album was released yesterday. Our music reviewer has

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Speaker 2: been listening to the Death of Slim Shady and we're

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Speaker 2: going to have a bit of a listen after eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning. You can make up your own mind

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Speaker 2: on that. Yeah, Hi, I'm not afraid to say I

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Speaker 2: don't mind a bit of eminem from time to time,

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Speaker 2: rite time and place. He's not an everyday kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: but write time and place. I'm into a bit of eminem,

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Speaker 2: and I certainly think he is a talent. Before eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: how many millionaires Dereck and there are in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: We've been doing the numbers, and our money guy this week,

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Speaker 2: Ed mcnight has been doing the numbers anyway, and let

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Speaker 2: me tell you this. You might be surprised. You might

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01:01:57,453 --> 01:01:59,133
Speaker 2: be a little bit surprised, not only at the number

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Speaker 2: of millionaires in New Zealand, but at the number of

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Speaker 2: multi millionaires in New Zealand. So we will reveal all

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01:02:04,573 --> 01:02:06,893
Speaker 2: very shortly. Right now, it is twenty five minutes to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newsmakers, the mic Hosking.

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Speaker 20: Breakfast zimpak is changing the world. Of course, leading international

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01:02:16,213 --> 01:02:18,773
Speaker 20: obesity expert doctor Ben Gonzalez as with us. What's your

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01:02:18,893 --> 01:02:20,373
Speaker 20: view on this whole GLP revolution.

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Speaker 21: Well, I've been using this medication for over seven years,

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Speaker 21: and of course celebrity attention just kind of shoots up

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Speaker 21: the attention. I think it's a very useful, powerful, safe drug,

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Speaker 21: but it needs to be used appropriately with appropriate doctor intervention.

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Speaker 20: But the problem is it isn't is it?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 21: And I've been watching year and a half and watching

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01:02:38,373 --> 01:02:40,733
Speaker 21: these pop up weight loss spas, these weight loss and

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Speaker 21: are just kind of selling the drug and doctors not

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Speaker 21: being fully trained on how to manage the medication, just

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Speaker 21: kind of writing the prescriptions.

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Speaker 16: Will in Ellie.

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Speaker 10: Then there you have it.

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Speaker 20: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: Jaguar Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two to eleven on Newstalk ZEDB. Sam Sung has

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Speaker 2: had their big mobile product launch event this week out Texsbit.

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Speaker 2: Paul Steinhouse has been keeping a close eye on things.

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01:03:05,333 --> 01:03:08,733
Speaker 2: Various products get their launch this week, Paul, but all

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Speaker 2: eyes are on the Galaxy Ring.

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Speaker 12: Yeah. I actually just really like that.

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01:03:13,253 --> 01:03:17,053
Speaker 16: It feels like Samsung actually does some innovation. Yeah, because

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01:03:17,213 --> 01:03:19,293
Speaker 16: Apple's just kind of you know exactly what's going to

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01:03:19,333 --> 01:03:21,093
Speaker 16: be there where they kind of put They do some

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Speaker 16: interesting things, right, like even their folding phone is super cool.

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Speaker 16: Their range of lifestyle TVs, the ones for outdoors and

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Speaker 16: the ones that look like picture frames, like they're actually

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Speaker 16: doing some cool stuff. And yeah, the Galaxy Ring is

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Speaker 16: another one that they're doing, and it's getting the headlines.

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Speaker 16: They've become the first major brand to launch what is

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Speaker 16: effectively a health tracker on your finger.

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Speaker 12: So think if your fitbit back in the day or

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Speaker 12: your Apple Watch.

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Speaker 16: This has been shrunk down now to a ring and

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Speaker 16: you put it on your finger. It comes with an accelerometer,

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Speaker 16: it comes with a heart rate sensor, It looks at

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Speaker 16: the temperature of your skin. It can track your sleep,

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Speaker 16: your activity, It does all those kinds of things, and

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Speaker 16: it comes in a very stylish gold, silver or black

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Speaker 16: jack on a titanium frame. Interesting though for this product

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Speaker 16: because it's not like you can just go down to

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Speaker 16: the store or maybe you can, I guess, and just

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Speaker 16: buy it or buy it as.

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Speaker 12: A gift because it can't be adjusted. It's a ring.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, So there's also a sizing kit, which it's kind

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Speaker 16: of funny for this product, and it's going to be

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Speaker 16: an Android only product, so the Apple folks they can't

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Speaker 16: get on board.

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Speaker 12: And when it's connected to your phone.

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Speaker 16: I really like this actually, and this is some of

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Speaker 16: that innovation I was talking about that I think is

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Speaker 16: kind of cool on your finger, that the rings on right,

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Speaker 16: you're taking a selfie or you've got someone, you know,

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Speaker 16: like holding the phone, or it's on a stand or something,

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Speaker 16: and you want to take a picture.

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Speaker 12: You just double pinch and it will take the take.

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Speaker 2: It again, double pinch.

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Speaker 16: So let's imagine that you've got your shot, it's on

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01:04:51,013 --> 01:04:52,973
Speaker 16: a tripod. You're like, oh, yeah, I think we're going

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Speaker 16: to look great. You can be there with everybody and

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Speaker 16: then just two with your ah, double pinch.

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Speaker 2: That's quite cool. Yeah, it's quite cool.

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Speaker 12: You Comparently you can also dismiss an alarm like that too.

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Speaker 2: It's probably too too easy. I think the key of

1252
01:05:06,813 --> 01:05:08,373
Speaker 2: having an alarm is that you've got to make it

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01:05:08,373 --> 01:05:12,093
Speaker 2: tricky to turn off. Don't you seen.

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01:05:11,093 --> 01:05:14,853
Speaker 12: Those videos where they have the alarm that has wheels or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that runs off around the bedroom. You've got to

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01:05:17,053 --> 01:05:19,773
Speaker 2: chase it. Yeah. I feel like my wife could do

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01:05:19,773 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 2: with one of those from time to time. Maybe that

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01:05:21,893 --> 01:05:24,053
Speaker 2: I am that version, I am that alarm for her

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Speaker 2: running off around the room. Yeah, okay, that sounds that

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Speaker 2: sounds quite intriguing. Here's the thing though, when it comes

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Speaker 2: to personal health trackers, I'm not sure that I wore one.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you use one?

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Speaker 12: I don't. I think it's a really.

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Speaker 16: I don't know if this is where you're going or not,

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01:05:38,293 --> 01:05:41,093
Speaker 16: but I think there's a really fascinating conversation, especially here

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Speaker 16: in the US where private insurance companies, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 16: in the healthcare system, and I think we've got this

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Speaker 16: like wealth of information at our fingertips about like, how

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Speaker 16: is that going to start to play into our insurance?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, premium coverage, right.

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Speaker 12: Oh, you don't. It doesn't look like you're getting out

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Speaker 12: that much. We're gonna we're gonna charge you more.

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Speaker 16: Or I feel the same way about those the you know,

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01:06:04,093 --> 01:06:06,133
Speaker 16: you swab your mouth and you do your genealogy.

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01:06:06,613 --> 01:06:07,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

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01:06:07,213 --> 01:06:08,293
Speaker 12: So I don't do that either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of Yeah, I think it is a

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01:06:11,173 --> 01:06:13,533
Speaker 2: little bit messy. But but just like in the basic stuff,

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Speaker 2: I don't don't feel like I need my ring to

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01:06:15,933 --> 01:06:17,733
Speaker 2: tell me that I had a bad sleep last night,

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01:06:17,813 --> 01:06:20,933
Speaker 2: or that my that I haven't been accelerating enough, or

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01:06:20,933 --> 01:06:22,773
Speaker 2: that you know, I maybe haven't got enough step. I

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Speaker 2: just you know, I just apple watch.

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Speaker 12: I do an apple Watch. And the thing that annoy

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Speaker 12: me was it's always every time to stand. I'm like,

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Speaker 12: I know, but I have another.

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Speaker 2: Meeting, Yeah exactly, And I can't and you just kind

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Speaker 2: of feel guilty in this, like anxiety over it or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not totally sure. Hey, very quickly, Le's find it

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Speaker 2: a very good motivator. No, that's true, that's true. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's just an each to their own kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Very quickly, Texans are getting help on tracking power outages

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Speaker 2: from a bit of an unlikely hero.

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Speaker 4: I love this.

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Speaker 12: There's a Burger chain in Texas that seems to be

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Speaker 12: on like every.

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Speaker 16: Corner of Houston opt And so when the people of

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Speaker 16: Houston found themselves without power this week, the power company

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Speaker 16: didn't really have a very good map to show that and.

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Speaker 12: Who came to the rescue?

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Speaker 16: But what a Burger Yeah, because their app could show

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01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:10,973
Speaker 16: you what stores were open and closed, and their formage

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01:07:11,013 --> 01:07:14,653
Speaker 16: stores had power and didn't, and there were so many

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Speaker 16: stores that it gave a very clear visual of where

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01:07:18,733 --> 01:07:21,173
Speaker 16: the power is and where the power is not in

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Speaker 16: the city.

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Speaker 2: So isn't it amazing? Yeah? Quite simple? Yeah, that's quite clever.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Hey, thank you, Paul. We will catch up

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Speaker 2: with you again very soon. That is our texpert, Paul

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Speaker 2: Stenthouse after eleven o'clock on News Talk ZB We're going

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Speaker 2: to introduce you to a new word this morning, speaking

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Speaker 2: of technology. It's called fubbing. Now fubbing is spelled p

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Speaker 2: h ubbing fubbing. We'll leave you to muse over that

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Speaker 2: for a few minutes. What do you think fubbing involves?

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint. The pH is for phone fubbing.

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Speaker 2: Have I think about that right now? At is seventeen

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Speaker 2: to eleven.

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Speaker 1: No bitter way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bpewart on cot

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Speaker 1: Z for high quality supplements used talks eNB.

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Speaker 2: It is quarter two eleven, no news talk zedb Ed

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Speaker 2: McKnight is our money guy. This weekend is with us

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Speaker 2: now killed.

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Speaker 22: Eh going to talk to here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you too, so put us out of our misery.

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Speaker 2: How many millionaires are there in New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: It is outrageous and I almost fell off the chair

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Speaker 22: when I called up stats in z According to their numbers,

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Speaker 22: about four hundred and thirty nine thousand households, so individual

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Speaker 22: households around the country. Now we should clear up what

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01:08:34,013 --> 01:08:36,853
Speaker 22: we mean by millionaires as well. We're talking net worths,

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Speaker 22: so that would be including your house minus you mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I say there, that's I mean a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Let's be totally honest. A million dollars isn't what it

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Speaker 2: was a couple of decades ago. I mean, there's inflation

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01:08:49,453 --> 01:08:52,133
Speaker 2: for you, right, But still that is a huge number

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Speaker 2: of millionaires. What about multimillionaires.

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Speaker 22: Well, when it comes to people with two million dollars plus, again,

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Speaker 22: I couldn't believe it. Ten percent of people in New

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Speaker 22: Zealand are multi millionaires worth two million dollars or more.

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Speaker 22: And a lot of that will be household wealth in

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Speaker 22: terms of somebody buying a house and as you've owned

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Speaker 22: it for fifteen years, it's probably gone up in value substantially.

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Speaker 22: You'll probably have paid off some of the mortgage.

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Speaker 7: But still those numbers.

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Speaker 22: We sometimes tell ourselves in New Zealand that, you know,

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Speaker 22: we're not as rich as the Australians, the Americans of

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Speaker 22: British And when I looked at those numbers, thinking that

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Speaker 22: almost a quarter New Zealanders are living in a millionaire household,

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Speaker 22: I've started to change my under But we are a

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Speaker 22: rich country and there's a lot of opportunity here.

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Speaker 2: So how did those people get their money?

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Speaker 22: A lot of it does come from housing, especially those

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Speaker 22: people in the kind of millionaire club one to two

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Speaker 22: million dollars. Once hit above the two million dollars in

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Speaker 22: closer to the three million dollar mark, a lot of

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Speaker 22: those people houses iNTS and may not even count their houses,

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Speaker 22: may not even count towards these numbers. So it starts

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Speaker 22: to be from business.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, I mean that the housing makes

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Speaker 2: kind of a lot of sense. And I suppose when

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Speaker 2: you're talking about net worth as well, like people's kind

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Speaker 2: of assets have appreciated a huge amount in recent years.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the business kind of distinguishes people. So what

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Speaker 2: does this actually mean though? Is there you know, how

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Speaker 2: do how do we you know, how do we shake

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Speaker 2: down compared to other parts around the world, and what

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Speaker 2: does having this wealth actually mean for us?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 22: I think the main thing for listening to the show

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Speaker 22: is I was just in giving a seminar to a

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Speaker 22: group of multi professionals and I was trying to use

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Speaker 22: these numbers to show that there is actually money out

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Speaker 22: there and we can be a little bit more aspirational.

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Speaker 22: And the issue that I sometimes come up against is

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Speaker 22: that New Zealanders often don't like to talk about their money,

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Speaker 22: and especially those people with money often don't like to

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Speaker 22: talk about it because we don't want to throw it

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Speaker 22: in each other's faces. We don't want to make people

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Speaker 22: feel bad. The fact that some people have money and

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Speaker 22: others in society are doing it really really tough. At

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Speaker 22: the moment, Bleas that broke in a little bit and says,

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Speaker 22: actually making a decent amount of wealth is possible in

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Speaker 22: this country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you reckon, there's opportunity with this.

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Speaker 22: I think once you start to break it down, it

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Speaker 22: made me realize how reachable I was going to say achievable.

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Speaker 22: It's not necessarily achievable, but it's reachable for people. You know,

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Speaker 22: if you bought the average house in Auckland back in

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Speaker 22: two thousand and ten, the average two you were just

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Speaker 22: saying about six hundred k, because the average house in

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Speaker 22: Auckland was four hundred and fifty k fourteen years ago.

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Speaker 22: Today it's about one point five million. And if you

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Speaker 22: had just held that making six hundred K from the

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Speaker 22: house going up value, maybe you'd paid two hundred k

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Speaker 22: the mortgage over that time and have some deposit there.

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Speaker 22: You start to end it up pretty quickly, and we're

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Speaker 22: getting close to that million dollar mark, and it was

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Speaker 22: quite fascinating when I was giving that seminar with down

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Speaker 22: on Door where we started creating plans for how could

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Speaker 22: we each make a million dollars over twenty odd years. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: and just seeing the line in people's eyes saying, yeah,

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Speaker 22: I think this is achievable now that I know what

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Speaker 22: is doable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting. Thank you so much. You

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01:12:21,773 --> 01:12:23,653
Speaker 2: do think a lot of people will be surprised with

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01:12:23,733 --> 01:12:25,453
Speaker 2: those numbers. Really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 10: Go to Jack.

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01:12:27,493 --> 01:12:30,093
Speaker 2: That is Ed McKnight and our money guy. Okay, we've

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Speaker 2: put you out of your misery with how many millionaires

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01:12:32,173 --> 01:12:33,493
Speaker 2: there are in New Zealand and how to do the

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01:12:33,533 --> 01:12:37,533
Speaker 2: same thing with fubbing. Fubbing is when you're on your

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01:12:37,573 --> 01:12:42,213
Speaker 2: phone and therefore snubbing the loved ones in your life.

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01:12:42,333 --> 01:12:44,293
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it's like at your place,

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01:12:44,333 --> 01:12:46,693
Speaker 2: but if you're ever like you know, you're going to

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01:12:46,933 --> 01:12:48,973
Speaker 2: talk to someone in your family and maybe they're just

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01:12:48,973 --> 01:12:50,973
Speaker 2: sitting on the couch and they're just doom scrolling and

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01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:54,733
Speaker 2: they're not talking to you, then that's fubbing because they're

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01:12:54,773 --> 01:12:58,213
Speaker 2: snubbing you and they're prioritizing their phone over you. Apparently

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01:12:58,253 --> 01:13:00,773
Speaker 2: it's a real phenomen Apparently it's calling all sorts of problems.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to take a close to look at

1422
01:13:02,813 --> 01:13:04,933
Speaker 2: that after eleven o'clock this morning. Next up, though we

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Speaker 2: are in the garden ten to eleven, non news dogs.

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Speaker 1: I'd be gardening with steel Shop free accessories this winter

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01:13:11,813 --> 01:13:12,653
Speaker 1: at steel Shop.

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01:13:12,813 --> 01:13:15,933
Speaker 2: Rude climb past as our men in the garden more than.

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Speaker 5: A cork jack. Have you got an apple tree at home?

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01:13:19,773 --> 01:13:21,573
Speaker 2: I don't have an apple tree. We've got a lemon tree,

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01:13:21,573 --> 01:13:24,533
Speaker 2: We've got a fijo a tree, but no apple tree. Okay,

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01:13:24,693 --> 01:13:26,533
Speaker 2: I'm not going to have any trees. There's long time

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01:13:26,573 --> 01:13:30,413
Speaker 2: listeners of the show now, but you know apple? Yeah, no,

1432
01:13:30,613 --> 01:13:34,653
Speaker 2: but but my brother in law is comes from from

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01:13:34,653 --> 01:13:38,133
Speaker 2: a from a family in Nelson who had an apple

1434
01:13:38,253 --> 01:13:41,213
Speaker 2: orchard for many years. So I do appreciate it.

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01:13:43,173 --> 01:13:45,453
Speaker 5: So no, but but a lot of people have got

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Speaker 5: when I talk about on radio about spurs and buds

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01:13:48,973 --> 01:13:52,053
Speaker 5: and things like that, there is a difference this. The

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01:13:52,093 --> 01:13:55,733
Speaker 5: apple buds that actually provide flowers and then fruit are

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01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:59,613
Speaker 5: called spurs, right and the and and they're usually put

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01:13:59,613 --> 01:14:02,493
Speaker 5: a few pictures in and I think Libya will put

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Speaker 5: them up on the on the website, and the spurs

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01:14:05,893 --> 01:14:09,413
Speaker 5: from which fruit actually arise are very thick, very obvious,

1443
01:14:09,533 --> 01:14:11,693
Speaker 5: very swollen. At this time of the.

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01:14:11,693 --> 01:14:12,533
Speaker 12: Year, you can see it.

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01:14:12,973 --> 01:14:14,813
Speaker 5: So if you ever need to prune your trees, and

1446
01:14:14,813 --> 01:14:18,653
Speaker 5: that has to happen right now, this is another little idea,

1447
01:14:18,973 --> 01:14:21,493
Speaker 5: have a look at if you can identify the spurs

1448
01:14:22,213 --> 01:14:24,093
Speaker 5: and the buds. The buds are the ones that actually

1449
01:14:24,133 --> 01:14:27,573
Speaker 5: give you new twigs if you like later season. Okay,

1450
01:14:27,693 --> 01:14:30,533
Speaker 5: but you do need to prune those trees. But if

1451
01:14:30,573 --> 01:14:33,293
Speaker 5: you prune too many spurs off, you don't get much

1452
01:14:33,373 --> 01:14:35,853
Speaker 5: fruit next year. So that's a bit of a warning.

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01:14:36,653 --> 01:14:40,613
Speaker 5: Here's another thing. Apples come in two different varieties ones

1454
01:14:40,653 --> 01:14:44,693
Speaker 5: that if you like, a spur bearing variety or a

1455
01:14:44,813 --> 01:14:47,933
Speaker 5: tip bearing variety, and that means that the spurs, if

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01:14:47,973 --> 01:14:50,213
Speaker 5: it's a spur bearing variety, the spurs are all over

1457
01:14:50,253 --> 01:14:53,173
Speaker 5: the branches if you like. But the tip bearing varieties

1458
01:14:53,213 --> 01:14:55,573
Speaker 5: only have the young fruit or the new fruit on

1459
01:14:55,693 --> 01:14:58,613
Speaker 5: the tips of the branches. And then and then you

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01:14:58,653 --> 01:15:01,093
Speaker 5: have to be extra careful that you don't cut off

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01:15:01,133 --> 01:15:07,293
Speaker 5: all the tips. You know, that's it, leave them there,

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01:15:07,773 --> 01:15:10,253
Speaker 5: cut some off. You need to change your position off

1463
01:15:10,293 --> 01:15:12,853
Speaker 5: your tree. Sometimes it needs to be a bit airy

1464
01:15:13,013 --> 01:15:15,493
Speaker 5: if you like. You know, it needs to be spaces

1465
01:15:15,533 --> 01:15:19,173
Speaker 5: and all that, but be aware of buds and tips.

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01:15:19,413 --> 01:15:23,453
Speaker 5: That is really really important. Now now is the time

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01:15:23,493 --> 01:15:26,533
Speaker 5: to do it. And I would always prune a tree

1468
01:15:26,693 --> 01:15:30,733
Speaker 5: if you like, with horizontal branches going out, giving anybody

1469
01:15:30,773 --> 01:15:34,253
Speaker 5: and everything and weather and wind a lot of space

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01:15:34,813 --> 01:15:37,893
Speaker 5: so that the tree can dry out after a rainfall.

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Speaker 10: That sort of stuff.

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01:15:39,013 --> 01:15:42,453
Speaker 5: Aconomy, don't get rots and things like that. That's what

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01:15:42,933 --> 01:15:44,453
Speaker 5: The other thing is that what you can do now

1474
01:15:44,533 --> 01:15:46,293
Speaker 5: is think if you've got a new plant, for instance,

1475
01:15:46,293 --> 01:15:47,893
Speaker 5: that you can think, how am I going to do this?

1476
01:15:47,973 --> 01:15:51,093
Speaker 5: I'm going to train this plant? You know, I'm going

1477
01:15:51,173 --> 01:15:54,813
Speaker 5: to nail it almost to a system. You can do

1478
01:15:54,893 --> 01:15:58,893
Speaker 5: all that too, which is literally like a training or

1479
01:15:59,053 --> 01:16:01,453
Speaker 5: a cordon or a fan or an s palier. You

1480
01:16:01,493 --> 01:16:03,933
Speaker 5: can do it in all sorts of ways. No here

1481
01:16:03,973 --> 01:16:07,173
Speaker 5: comes to being a little tip. The The old New

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01:16:07,213 --> 01:16:09,813
Speaker 5: Zealand Gardener did a fabulous article by Bill Brett a

1483
01:16:09,853 --> 01:16:13,373
Speaker 5: couple of months ago which gives you all those particular shapes,

1484
01:16:13,613 --> 01:16:17,213
Speaker 5: and once you've seen those shapes, you can actually copy

1485
01:16:17,253 --> 01:16:20,013
Speaker 5: that and make it up very simply. That is really

1486
01:16:20,053 --> 01:16:20,893
Speaker 5: a nice way to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting. Okay, very good. Thank you sir.

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01:16:24,893 --> 01:16:26,733
Speaker 5: There you are all right, Well, you take it.

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01:16:26,813 --> 01:16:28,773
Speaker 2: You have a good weekend and we will catch up

1490
01:16:29,253 --> 01:16:30,973
Speaker 2: with you again very shortly. There is a rude climb

1491
01:16:31,013 --> 01:16:33,093
Speaker 2: past our man in the garden. And thank you for

1492
01:16:33,133 --> 01:16:35,973
Speaker 2: all your messages. We've had so many this morning. Jack,

1493
01:16:36,133 --> 01:16:38,613
Speaker 2: regarding the millionaires, don't forget you've got to add the

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Speaker 2: interest on the mortgage as well. Ah, that's intriguing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so if you're going to do your net worth, you

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Speaker 2: can't just he's saying that you can't just mine us

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Speaker 2: whatever your mortgage is at the moment from whatever assets

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Speaker 2: you have. You're saying that you've got to account for

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Speaker 2: future interest as well. Interesting accounting. But I suppose some

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Speaker 2: people will think that's more modest, Malcolm says Jack. I'd

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Speaker 2: say the millionaire club in New Zealand, caused by the

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Speaker 2: rapid increasing property values, is not a good thing. After all,

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Speaker 2: it makes it so hard for people to get on

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Speaker 2: the property ladder, I reckon that's a big part of

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01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:10,653
Speaker 2: the reason so many people are heading overseas. Yeah, that's interesting, Jack.

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Speaker 2: We've got a property with a CV of one point

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01:17:13,093 --> 01:17:15,173
Speaker 2: five million, no debt, but we live off of benefit.

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01:17:15,213 --> 01:17:18,293
Speaker 2: Does that make me a millionaire? I think technically it does.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Thank you for your messages. Ninety

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Speaker 2: ninety two. If you want to flick as a text,

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Speaker 2: News is next. It is almost eleven o'clock. You're with

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Speaker 2: Jacktame and this is news Doorg's EDB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpeuwre dot cot dot ins here for

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Speaker 1: high quality supplements used dogs EDB.

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Speaker 2: More in a New Zealand you're with Jacktame on Newstorg's

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Speaker 2: EDB before twelve o'clock Today, we are going to be

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Speaker 2: celebrating the death of Slim Shady. And when I say

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01:18:10,533 --> 01:18:12,973
Speaker 2: that line, it sounds so bad, right. We might not

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Speaker 2: be celebrating it. We might be criticizing the death of

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Speaker 2: Slim Shady. At the very least, we will be listening

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Speaker 2: to the death of Slim Shady, because the Death of

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Speaker 2: Slim Shady is of course an album from the man

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Speaker 2: who calls himself slim Shady. But we'll be doing so

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Speaker 2: no more. Eminem twenty five years since he introduced his

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Speaker 2: alter ego, the rapper has just released this album. We've

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Speaker 2: been listening to a little bit. We're going to pick

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Speaker 2: out a couple of songs and we're going to play

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Speaker 2: that to you before twelve o'clock as well as that

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Speaker 2: something completely different. You know about the antiquities in Athens,

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01:18:42,893 --> 01:18:45,653
Speaker 2: But what about the food, what about the olive tasting,

1532
01:18:45,693 --> 01:18:48,613
Speaker 2: what about the sweet treats? Our travel correspondent's going to

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01:18:48,613 --> 01:18:50,493
Speaker 2: be with us very shortly right now, though it's eight

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Speaker 2: minutes past eleven, Jack, team fubbing, that is, when you

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01:18:55,053 --> 01:18:59,373
Speaker 2: combine your phone and snubbing. You might have been guilty

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Speaker 2: of fubbing some of the people in your life. I

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01:19:01,813 --> 01:19:04,373
Speaker 2: know that I'm guilty of fubbing people from time to time,

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Speaker 2: and I know that people close to me could occasionally

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01:19:07,533 --> 01:19:11,213
Speaker 2: be guilty of fubbing as well. Our clinical psychologist Google

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Speaker 2: Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being as with us this morning

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01:19:13,893 --> 01:19:14,653
Speaker 2: morning a doogle.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, Jack, and good to hear that you're

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01:19:18,373 --> 01:19:22,333
Speaker 8: a self confessed fubber. Most of us will fub at times.

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Speaker 2: It does you just you fall into the trap. And

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01:19:24,213 --> 01:19:26,573
Speaker 2: this is the great irony of the digital age. Right.

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01:19:26,693 --> 01:19:29,893
Speaker 2: So phones have made us all that more connected with

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01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:32,293
Speaker 2: the world, but at the same time, in some respects,

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01:19:32,333 --> 01:19:34,333
Speaker 2: they make us all the more disconnected.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, yeah, there's many, many great things

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01:19:40,093 --> 01:19:45,013
Speaker 8: about your phones and about being connected and everything that

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01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:48,613
Speaker 8: goes with but fubbing is a real issue, I think,

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01:19:48,653 --> 01:19:53,213
Speaker 8: particularly when we do it at home and we are,

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01:19:53,973 --> 01:19:56,613
Speaker 8: you know, often our excuses, Oh, I'm connecting with you know,

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01:19:56,693 --> 01:19:59,613
Speaker 8: I'm connecting with my friends all workmates or work but

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01:19:59,693 --> 01:20:04,613
Speaker 8: actually in the process of connecting with or with other

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01:20:04,653 --> 01:20:08,693
Speaker 8: people via social media, where we're inadvertently ignoring the people

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01:20:09,613 --> 01:20:13,093
Speaker 8: nearest and dearest to us. And we know that, particularly

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01:20:13,253 --> 01:20:18,013
Speaker 8: for partners, that there's lots of benefits that people get

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01:20:18,093 --> 01:20:22,453
Speaker 8: from from being in a supportive relationship with their partner,

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01:20:22,733 --> 01:20:25,613
Speaker 8: and that can actually be undermined and weakened a little

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01:20:25,653 --> 01:20:27,213
Speaker 8: bit if you're engaging in fubbing.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. And so is it specifically when you are,

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01:20:31,653 --> 01:20:34,613
Speaker 2: you know, on social media talking to other people, liking

1564
01:20:34,653 --> 01:20:36,413
Speaker 2: posts and that kind of thing, or is it more

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01:20:36,493 --> 01:20:39,453
Speaker 2: just if your partner is on their phone all the time.

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01:20:40,453 --> 01:20:43,533
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we shouldn't lay too much, or we

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01:20:43,893 --> 01:20:46,693
Speaker 8: can't lay completely all the blame completely at the door

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Speaker 8: of social mediams. But social media, but I think it's

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01:20:51,533 --> 01:20:55,773
Speaker 8: just magnified and highlighted by social media. But for example,

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Speaker 8: you know, seventy five percent of people say that they

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01:20:59,253 --> 01:21:02,613
Speaker 8: choose to share their emotional struggles with their partner as

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01:21:02,653 --> 01:21:06,813
Speaker 8: their first port of call. And having a good relationship ship,

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01:21:07,773 --> 01:21:11,053
Speaker 8: you know, good partner relationships really associated with better well

1574
01:21:11,053 --> 01:21:15,653
Speaker 8: being and better work life balance. So partners play a

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01:21:15,773 --> 01:21:19,333
Speaker 8: strong role in our well being and generally and our

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01:21:19,373 --> 01:21:23,773
Speaker 8: well being at work, and inadvertently ignoring them is probably

1577
01:21:23,813 --> 01:21:26,413
Speaker 8: to not only our detriment, but the detriment of your

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01:21:26,453 --> 01:21:27,693
Speaker 8: relationship on the long term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because so like farbing has been linked to poor

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01:21:31,613 --> 01:21:35,093
Speaker 2: equality of relationships, so or put poorer quality of relations

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Speaker 2: with your partner.

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Speaker 8: That's right, Yeah, poorer equality of relationships, which is understandable,

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01:21:41,773 --> 01:21:44,253
Speaker 8: right if you're not if you're not investing in that

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01:21:44,293 --> 01:21:49,253
Speaker 8: relationship regularly, then it falls down. Also weirdly connected with

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01:21:50,813 --> 01:21:53,853
Speaker 8: partners reporting a lower sense of self esteem about themselves,

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01:21:53,893 --> 01:21:57,413
Speaker 8: and that's probably because linked there to sort of feeling

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01:21:57,453 --> 01:22:00,333
Speaker 8: ignored in a relationship because you know, your partner's always

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01:22:00,373 --> 01:22:03,533
Speaker 8: on their device talking to other people. Gosh, I must

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Speaker 8: not really be worth very much kind of thing, So

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01:22:07,053 --> 01:22:09,493
Speaker 8: you know, it can have a detrimental effect both on

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01:22:09,533 --> 01:22:12,213
Speaker 8: your relationship and on your own wellbeing and on your

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01:22:12,253 --> 01:22:13,013
Speaker 8: partner as well.

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Speaker 2: So what can people do about it?

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Speaker 8: Well, look, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Speaker 8: I mean I tend to be, you know, a bit

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01:22:21,893 --> 01:22:24,213
Speaker 8: black and white about things at times, and it could

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Speaker 8: easily go wow, I just don't use it ever, So

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Speaker 8: so don't do that. I mean, that would be silly

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Speaker 8: and probably.

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Speaker 2: Probably yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, But but I think my golden rule is often

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01:22:36,493 --> 01:22:38,973
Speaker 8: you know, wherever you are, be in it. So if

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01:22:39,013 --> 01:22:42,453
Speaker 8: you are at home, you know, be present at home,

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01:22:42,613 --> 01:22:45,133
Speaker 8: and if you're at work, be present at work. Now

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01:22:45,133 --> 01:22:47,213
Speaker 8: that doesn't mean one hundred percent of your time. You're

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01:22:47,213 --> 01:22:51,773
Speaker 8: always focused on on that, but be aware of where

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01:22:51,853 --> 01:22:56,973
Speaker 8: your your your attention is and try to be present

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01:22:57,053 --> 01:22:59,293
Speaker 8: wherever you are. Again, so if you're at home with

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01:22:59,373 --> 01:23:02,173
Speaker 8: your partner, if you're at and you can set some

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01:23:02,653 --> 01:23:04,333
Speaker 8: I don't know if you want to call them rules,

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01:23:04,373 --> 01:23:07,373
Speaker 8: but you could set some kind of agreement between you,

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01:23:08,573 --> 01:23:11,373
Speaker 8: like you know, I know lots of families have the

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01:23:11,453 --> 01:23:15,333
Speaker 8: rule about no devices at the dinner table, for example,

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01:23:15,413 --> 01:23:18,053
Speaker 8: and that's a really good one. There's lots of benefits

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01:23:18,053 --> 01:23:22,133
Speaker 8: that come from eating a meal together. Some people have

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01:23:22,893 --> 01:23:25,373
Speaker 8: an agreement that they don't use phones after a certain

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01:23:25,373 --> 01:23:27,613
Speaker 8: time at night, you know, nine o'clock, we're going to

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01:23:27,613 --> 01:23:30,293
Speaker 8: put our phones away so that we can just be together.

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01:23:30,733 --> 01:23:32,773
Speaker 8: And for partners, you know, you could have something, well,

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01:23:33,053 --> 01:23:35,093
Speaker 8: let's not use our devices and bead. I'm sure there

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01:23:35,093 --> 01:23:37,093
Speaker 8: are other things that we can do to connect and

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01:23:37,453 --> 01:23:40,613
Speaker 8: entertain our films from beard apart from being on the phone. Yeah,

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01:23:40,773 --> 01:23:43,093
Speaker 8: so those might be some then there. I wouldn't want

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01:23:43,093 --> 01:23:45,253
Speaker 8: to call them rules. I just you know, maybe they

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01:23:45,293 --> 01:23:49,893
Speaker 8: can be agreements between each other around when and how

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01:23:49,973 --> 01:23:51,973
Speaker 8: we use technology at home.

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Speaker 2: So both my wife and I are on our phones

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01:23:54,573 --> 01:23:57,933
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, I'll cop to that. But one

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01:23:57,933 --> 01:24:01,413
Speaker 2: thing I find is that actually, like carving out space,

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01:24:01,493 --> 01:24:04,173
Speaker 2: it's not just carving out space when not to use phones,

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01:24:04,493 --> 01:24:07,733
Speaker 2: but also carving out space when you can use phones

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01:24:08,053 --> 01:24:09,893
Speaker 2: is a good you know, like you want you kind

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01:24:09,893 --> 01:24:11,093
Speaker 2: of on a bit of yin and yang, a bit

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01:24:11,133 --> 01:24:13,733
Speaker 2: of carrot and stick kind of thing. And yeah, and

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01:24:13,773 --> 01:24:17,333
Speaker 2: so like last night, for example, I know that a

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01:24:17,413 --> 01:24:20,053
Speaker 2: way that my wife really d stresses at the end

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01:24:20,093 --> 01:24:22,213
Speaker 2: of the day sometimes is just to muck around on

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01:24:22,253 --> 01:24:23,973
Speaker 2: social media and look at her phone, look at funny

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01:24:24,053 --> 01:24:26,373
Speaker 2: videos and that kind of thing. Yeah, and I really

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01:24:26,453 --> 01:24:29,333
Speaker 2: like listening to podcasts, and you know, it's kind of

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01:24:29,413 --> 01:24:31,453
Speaker 2: the same thing that you know, that's what I do

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01:24:31,493 --> 01:24:33,253
Speaker 2: and that's what she does, and that's fine. And so

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01:24:33,573 --> 01:24:37,133
Speaker 2: last night for about half an hour, I pot around

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01:24:37,133 --> 01:24:40,493
Speaker 2: the house listening to podcasts and she was shilling on

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01:24:40,533 --> 01:24:42,933
Speaker 2: the couch looking at videos and things. And then afterwards

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01:24:42,973 --> 01:24:44,373
Speaker 2: we both put our phones away and were able to

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01:24:44,413 --> 01:24:46,453
Speaker 2: kind of be really present with each other. But sometimes

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01:24:46,493 --> 01:24:48,853
Speaker 2: it actually just I think makes it easier to have that,

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01:24:49,453 --> 01:24:50,613
Speaker 2: you know, to draw a bit of a line in

1650
01:24:50,653 --> 01:24:53,093
Speaker 2: the sand if you if you do, create a bit

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01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:53,973
Speaker 2: of space for it as well.

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01:24:55,053 --> 01:24:57,853
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And I think you know what I like

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01:24:57,933 --> 01:25:02,373
Speaker 8: there is that there's sort of an agreement about it. Yeah,

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01:25:02,773 --> 01:25:05,533
Speaker 8: you know, we both recognize that it's a useful thing

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01:25:05,573 --> 01:25:09,133
Speaker 8: for us to do. We're using it for ourselves to

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01:25:09,213 --> 01:25:13,013
Speaker 8: kind of stress and and you know, get rid of,

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01:25:13,133 --> 01:25:15,533
Speaker 8: you know, wash away the dregs of the day. But

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01:25:15,693 --> 01:25:18,613
Speaker 8: also you know, there's obviously you guys are then coming

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01:25:18,653 --> 01:25:23,093
Speaker 8: back together that Yeah, and I like the deliberate nature

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01:25:23,133 --> 01:25:26,453
Speaker 8: about that rather than because I think the danger with

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01:25:26,493 --> 01:25:29,293
Speaker 8: cell phones and social media, et cetera is that you're

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01:25:29,333 --> 01:25:31,613
Speaker 8: kind of you know, you go down that rabbit hole

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01:25:31,813 --> 01:25:33,213
Speaker 8: and you look up and it's sort of been two

1664
01:25:33,293 --> 01:25:35,333
Speaker 8: or three hours and you haven't kind of meant to

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01:25:35,373 --> 01:25:37,573
Speaker 8: spend that time, but it just sort of slips away.

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01:25:37,653 --> 01:25:40,453
Speaker 8: So I like that. I like the deliberateness there around. Hey, look,

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01:25:40,493 --> 01:25:43,053
Speaker 8: let's use it for a discrete period and then let's

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01:25:43,093 --> 01:25:46,493
Speaker 8: reconnect with one another recognizing that both are important.

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01:25:46,693 --> 01:25:49,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Hey, thank you so much. Too great to

1670
01:25:49,133 --> 01:25:52,493
Speaker 2: chat as always Doogle Sutherland is a clinical psychologist with

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Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes past eleven None new still z d make

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Speaker 2: Yardley is our travel corresponding. Good morning, sir, Jack.

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Speaker 10: The all blacks by twenty oh.

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Speaker 2: Hey, just remind us what you said at this time

1678
01:26:11,973 --> 01:26:12,493
Speaker 2: last week.

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01:26:12,653 --> 01:26:16,253
Speaker 10: Just remind us we're all blacks by one.

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01:26:16,813 --> 01:26:20,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if that's what my memory recalls.

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01:26:22,253 --> 01:26:24,413
Speaker 2: By twenty Yeah.

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01:26:24,293 --> 01:26:24,453
Speaker 8: I do.

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01:26:24,493 --> 01:26:26,053
Speaker 10: I think they will go back tonight, but I do

1684
01:26:26,133 --> 01:26:28,573
Speaker 10: actually think the ponds will win the Euros.

1685
01:26:29,053 --> 01:26:32,093
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, interesting I mean you have to say that

1686
01:26:33,013 --> 01:26:34,813
Speaker 2: with the Euros. We're going to catch up with Jason

1687
01:26:34,813 --> 01:26:37,453
Speaker 2: Pine on this very shortly because he is fizzing of course.

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01:26:37,493 --> 01:26:40,533
Speaker 2: But I mean I've watched almost every game I think

1689
01:26:40,573 --> 01:26:43,373
Speaker 2: in this tournament, and Spain has been the standout team

1690
01:26:43,453 --> 01:26:45,933
Speaker 2: the entire time. But yeah, all you need the English

1691
01:26:45,973 --> 01:26:47,333
Speaker 2: are kind of coming right at the right at the

1692
01:26:47,373 --> 01:26:50,133
Speaker 2: right time. And you know with football, all you need

1693
01:26:50,213 --> 01:26:52,173
Speaker 2: is a moment and that that can be the difference.

1694
01:26:52,693 --> 01:26:55,813
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think Harry Kane is a match winner.

1695
01:26:56,613 --> 01:26:58,373
Speaker 10: And I thought it was interesting how he was subbed

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01:26:58,373 --> 01:27:00,773
Speaker 10: off the other night. I reckon that will happen again.

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01:27:01,133 --> 01:27:05,653
Speaker 2: Interesting. Oh, some big cause, Mike, Okay, just I am

1698
01:27:05,653 --> 01:27:07,173
Speaker 2: going to come to you again at this time next

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01:27:07,173 --> 01:27:11,253
Speaker 2: week and we'll be able to review these big cause anyway. Indeed, hey,

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01:27:11,493 --> 01:27:14,613
Speaker 2: we're focusing on Athens this morning, of course, the Greek capital.

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01:27:14,653 --> 01:27:17,173
Speaker 2: And yes, we know all about the antiquities, but what

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01:27:17,253 --> 01:27:19,653
Speaker 2: talk to us about the really impressive and important stuff.

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01:27:19,693 --> 01:27:21,413
Speaker 2: Talk to us about the street eats.

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01:27:22,853 --> 01:27:25,453
Speaker 10: Well this is in zat because yes, obviously Athens has

1705
01:27:25,573 --> 01:27:29,253
Speaker 10: quite an arsenal of ancient treats, so much to digest.

1706
01:27:29,333 --> 01:27:32,213
Speaker 10: But in between all of those old rocks. I really

1707
01:27:32,213 --> 01:27:36,133
Speaker 10: do think the city's culinary treasures are epic as well.

1708
01:27:36,613 --> 01:27:38,613
Speaker 10: And the thing about it is, I love the way

1709
01:27:38,693 --> 01:27:42,493
Speaker 10: Athenians eat. I feel a lot of affinity for Athenians

1710
01:27:42,533 --> 01:27:46,613
Speaker 10: because the Greeks are very big grazers. You know, they'll

1711
01:27:46,653 --> 01:27:50,213
Speaker 10: just happily snack their way through the day. So that

1712
01:27:50,373 --> 01:27:56,253
Speaker 10: approach to consumption amplifies athens appeal as a street food destination.

1713
01:27:56,933 --> 01:28:00,573
Speaker 10: Lots of casual outlets, lots of food stalls, whether you

1714
01:28:00,693 --> 01:28:03,213
Speaker 10: just want to sit down or grab and go.

1715
01:28:03,533 --> 01:28:05,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, So where is a good place to start?

1716
01:28:06,773 --> 01:28:09,733
Speaker 10: Well, I would start early in Syntagmus Square, where those

1717
01:28:10,093 --> 01:28:14,213
Speaker 10: ceremonial soldiers, the EBB Zones guard the tomb of the

1718
01:28:14,293 --> 01:28:17,813
Speaker 10: unknown Soldier. They do this most amazing military drill and

1719
01:28:17,853 --> 01:28:20,453
Speaker 10: it always saw us a crowd. But while you're watching

1720
01:28:20,533 --> 01:28:24,453
Speaker 10: them chomp down on a kiluri. They are those specialty

1721
01:28:24,573 --> 01:28:28,053
Speaker 10: pretzels dipped in sesame seeds, very similar to what you

1722
01:28:28,053 --> 01:28:32,133
Speaker 10: will find in the stand bull Actually okay, but generally

1723
01:28:32,173 --> 01:28:34,493
Speaker 10: most workers in Athens will start the day with a

1724
01:28:34,573 --> 01:28:38,773
Speaker 10: kiluri and then head to this gorgeous old bakery just

1725
01:28:38,853 --> 01:28:43,053
Speaker 10: off Syntagma Square. It's called Ariston. Now, Greece has a

1726
01:28:43,133 --> 01:28:46,653
Speaker 10: prized tradition in pie making, but Ariston is sort of

1727
01:28:46,733 --> 01:28:50,653
Speaker 10: like savory pie heaven because you've been run by the

1728
01:28:50,693 --> 01:28:54,613
Speaker 10: same family for two centuries and all of their goodies

1729
01:28:54,613 --> 01:28:57,813
Speaker 10: are in cased in philo pastry, which in Greek does

1730
01:28:57,893 --> 01:29:02,453
Speaker 10: translate as leaf. And the big buy at Ariston the

1731
01:29:02,653 --> 01:29:07,013
Speaker 10: oven worm spanakopetis spinach and feta pie. They are so

1732
01:29:07,293 --> 01:29:09,733
Speaker 10: good warm jack and their cheese pies. To repeat it,

1733
01:29:10,093 --> 01:29:11,293
Speaker 10: they're really good tea.

1734
01:29:11,453 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 2: So what about sweet treat.

1735
01:29:13,893 --> 01:29:16,093
Speaker 10: Well, I actually think the biggest reason to go to

1736
01:29:16,173 --> 01:29:19,973
Speaker 10: Ariston is for what I would say is my favorite

1737
01:29:19,973 --> 01:29:25,293
Speaker 10: new Athenian treat, bougatsa. Now, this philo pastry pie is

1738
01:29:25,573 --> 01:29:29,893
Speaker 10: stuffed with cream custard topped with icing sugar. They are

1739
01:29:29,973 --> 01:29:33,413
Speaker 10: so delicious, and once again they are best served.

1740
01:29:33,133 --> 01:29:35,093
Speaker 8: Warm, straight out of the oven.

1741
01:29:35,173 --> 01:29:39,573
Speaker 10: I actually had quite a number of boogutzers. They are

1742
01:29:39,653 --> 01:29:44,373
Speaker 10: just so delicious. And then then head over to one

1743
01:29:44,373 --> 01:29:47,773
Speaker 10: of Athens's oldest cafes. It's called Kreenos for some hairy

1744
01:29:47,813 --> 01:29:51,773
Speaker 10: chested Greek coffee. It's the same as Turkish coffee. Interestingly,

1745
01:29:51,933 --> 01:29:56,093
Speaker 10: but the geopolitics in passing here. The Greeks stopped calling

1746
01:29:56,133 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 10: it Turkish coffee after the Turks invaded Cypress fifty years ago.

1747
01:30:02,773 --> 01:30:07,213
Speaker 10: I pondered that, Jack and Kreenos while I enjoyed my

1748
01:30:07,333 --> 01:30:13,173
Speaker 10: coffee along with the local Greek donuts Luca Mardis mades. Now,

1749
01:30:13,493 --> 01:30:17,893
Speaker 10: these are those delectable fluffy balls of dough which are

1750
01:30:18,013 --> 01:30:20,613
Speaker 10: made in front of you at Kreenos, and then they

1751
01:30:20,813 --> 01:30:25,173
Speaker 10: levelsly pop your plate with honey syrup, with cinnamon and

1752
01:30:25,293 --> 01:30:26,373
Speaker 10: crushed nuts.

1753
01:30:26,373 --> 01:30:27,653
Speaker 4: Oh man, oh my god.

1754
01:30:27,693 --> 01:30:28,373
Speaker 8: They are so good.

1755
01:30:28,373 --> 01:30:31,573
Speaker 10: But they really do go well with that that bitter coffee,

1756
01:30:31,613 --> 01:30:35,293
Speaker 10: which is you know what you'll get with Turkish or

1757
01:30:35,293 --> 01:30:35,893
Speaker 10: Greek coffee.

1758
01:30:35,893 --> 01:30:37,533
Speaker 2: And so yeah, so what do you call the coffee now?

1759
01:30:38,653 --> 01:30:39,133
Speaker 2: Just coffee?

1760
01:30:39,333 --> 01:30:42,173
Speaker 4: Well what do they call it? Yeah?

1761
01:30:42,253 --> 01:30:45,573
Speaker 10: Now, Jack, you've got me on the I did have

1762
01:30:45,653 --> 01:30:46,373
Speaker 10: this rushing down.

1763
01:30:47,533 --> 01:30:49,533
Speaker 2: We can come back to that, we can, we can

1764
01:30:49,533 --> 01:30:51,213
Speaker 2: find it in a minute, but just let's call it

1765
01:30:51,253 --> 01:30:52,173
Speaker 2: coffee for the time being.

1766
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:55,573
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yes, but you know how you will remember

1767
01:30:55,573 --> 01:30:58,293
Speaker 10: from Turkey it's got that really gunky slubs.

1768
01:30:59,093 --> 01:31:01,573
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how you know it's good.

1769
01:31:01,613 --> 01:31:03,813
Speaker 2: That's how you know you're getting that caffeine hit. But yeah,

1770
01:31:03,813 --> 01:31:05,893
Speaker 2: it's always you always feel like you're sucking it off

1771
01:31:05,933 --> 01:31:07,973
Speaker 2: your teeth. Afterwards, done you, it's.

1772
01:31:08,493 --> 01:31:12,653
Speaker 10: Actually here you go jack hot off the press and ethens.

1773
01:31:12,693 --> 01:31:15,693
Speaker 10: It's called all Nikos Cafe.

1774
01:31:15,333 --> 01:31:18,773
Speaker 2: Ell Nkos Cafe. Okay, very good. Where is good for

1775
01:31:18,933 --> 01:31:19,853
Speaker 2: olive tasting?

1776
01:31:20,893 --> 01:31:23,493
Speaker 10: Well, we're very close to the central market. There is

1777
01:31:23,573 --> 01:31:27,773
Speaker 10: this olive emporium which will just blow your hair back

1778
01:31:27,853 --> 01:31:32,333
Speaker 10: because they have got so many olives, dozens and dozens

1779
01:31:32,333 --> 01:31:35,813
Speaker 10: of free standing barrels from all over the country, so

1780
01:31:35,973 --> 01:31:39,373
Speaker 10: it sort of doubles as an olive cafe. It's called Ariana,

1781
01:31:39,893 --> 01:31:41,973
Speaker 10: and you can order up like a tasting place of

1782
01:31:42,013 --> 01:31:46,973
Speaker 10: olives and olive oil. Athenians love the big oval green

1783
01:31:47,013 --> 01:31:51,213
Speaker 10: ones from a place called Amphissa, which is just below Delphi,

1784
01:31:52,133 --> 01:31:56,693
Speaker 10: very famous olive grove, massive sized, these green olives. In fact,

1785
01:31:56,853 --> 01:32:02,333
Speaker 10: at Ariana they rated them by size jumbo, colossal or

1786
01:32:02,453 --> 01:32:09,133
Speaker 10: memoth any good. But like wine, it's the tea that

1787
01:32:09,293 --> 01:32:13,653
Speaker 10: dictates the subtle taste differences of Greece's olives, so you've

1788
01:32:13,653 --> 01:32:16,413
Speaker 10: got to try like the tiny cleton olives and the

1789
01:32:16,493 --> 01:32:20,893
Speaker 10: tear shaped purple hued Kelimata olives. But oh my god,

1790
01:32:20,973 --> 01:32:22,333
Speaker 10: it really is olive heaven.

1791
01:32:22,533 --> 01:32:24,493
Speaker 2: And how impressive is the Central Market?

1792
01:32:25,813 --> 01:32:29,133
Speaker 10: It is just superb jack, It's quite intoxicating. It's the

1793
01:32:29,213 --> 01:32:31,773
Speaker 10: grand central station of food. So you've got all of

1794
01:32:31,773 --> 01:32:33,933
Speaker 10: your nuts and your spices along the sort of the

1795
01:32:34,093 --> 01:32:37,133
Speaker 10: sides of the market. But the real deal is the

1796
01:32:37,173 --> 01:32:40,573
Speaker 10: first and the meat. And there are hundreds of fishmonger stores.

1797
01:32:40,773 --> 01:32:43,333
Speaker 10: I have never seen so many octopus in my life.

1798
01:32:44,133 --> 01:32:47,533
Speaker 10: Then you've got hundreds of butcher's stores where you've got

1799
01:32:47,533 --> 01:32:51,413
Speaker 10: the swinging carcasses and every imaginable body part, and it

1800
01:32:51,453 --> 01:32:55,253
Speaker 10: all becomes sordidly fascinating. But I found a fun fact

1801
01:32:55,293 --> 01:32:59,933
Speaker 10: for you. Fifty five thousand locals shop at the Central

1802
01:33:00,013 --> 01:33:01,213
Speaker 10: Market every day.

1803
01:33:01,653 --> 01:33:05,813
Speaker 2: WHOA, oh, so that's great. It's not just a touristy spot.

1804
01:33:05,893 --> 01:33:09,933
Speaker 2: It's a that is less legit. Sublaki and Gyro's Peter

1805
01:33:10,013 --> 01:33:12,013
Speaker 2: would have to be on the agenda, I would.

1806
01:33:11,853 --> 01:33:16,813
Speaker 10: Think, definitely. And if you want to check out such

1807
01:33:17,453 --> 01:33:20,453
Speaker 10: a Greek staple with a modern twist, I went to

1808
01:33:20,493 --> 01:33:23,933
Speaker 10: a place called hoo Cut in Monasteriarchy, which is very

1809
01:33:23,973 --> 01:33:24,933
Speaker 10: central in Athens.

1810
01:33:25,213 --> 01:33:25,373
Speaker 9: Now.

1811
01:33:25,413 --> 01:33:27,093
Speaker 10: The reason I went to hoo Cut is because this

1812
01:33:27,253 --> 01:33:32,493
Speaker 10: place featured on Gordon Geno Fred's Road the TV shows,

1813
01:33:32,933 --> 01:33:36,293
Speaker 10: so they do modern variations on sublaki and yodos, and

1814
01:33:36,333 --> 01:33:41,733
Speaker 10: I tucked into the lamb peta rap which had a

1815
01:33:41,733 --> 01:33:45,653
Speaker 10: lot of cac so along with the typical zeke and tato.

1816
01:33:45,853 --> 01:33:50,173
Speaker 10: They also added red onion, a housemade spiced sauce in

1817
01:33:50,253 --> 01:33:55,653
Speaker 10: paprika so at very very zesty. But the other really

1818
01:33:55,653 --> 01:33:58,293
Speaker 10: cool thing about hoo Cut they have their own career,

1819
01:33:58,413 --> 01:34:02,173
Speaker 10: so all of the peta is made on site, super light,

1820
01:34:02,373 --> 01:34:05,293
Speaker 10: really feathery and fluffy, and I think that adds to

1821
01:34:05,333 --> 01:34:08,533
Speaker 10: the taste. Definitely go to Hoocut and it's as cheap

1822
01:34:08,533 --> 01:34:09,053
Speaker 10: as chips.

1823
01:34:09,093 --> 01:34:10,813
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds so good. Okay, So I'm going to

1824
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:14,213
Speaker 2: put you on the spot here. I'm sure you know

1825
01:34:14,253 --> 01:34:16,213
Speaker 2: what I'm going to get you to compare that to

1826
01:34:16,693 --> 01:34:19,573
Speaker 2: Dimitries and christ jurg Is still I think the gold

1827
01:34:19,653 --> 01:34:22,973
Speaker 2: standard when it comes to souvlaki's nearly So, how how

1828
01:34:23,013 --> 01:34:26,453
Speaker 2: does Dimitries stack up against the offerings and Athens.

1829
01:34:28,013 --> 01:34:31,093
Speaker 10: Oh that's a tough question, Jack. I think Dimitries is

1830
01:34:31,373 --> 01:34:36,293
Speaker 10: a classic Greek provider of yah suvlaki. I think they

1831
01:34:36,333 --> 01:34:40,333
Speaker 10: are true to tradition, But I have to say, I mean,

1832
01:34:40,373 --> 01:34:45,893
Speaker 10: I could live on souaky that such the most wonderful,

1833
01:34:45,893 --> 01:34:49,773
Speaker 10: wonderful meal, isn't it? And so cheap? Everywhere I ate

1834
01:34:49,813 --> 01:34:53,213
Speaker 10: an Athens was was really good, but it was just

1835
01:34:53,333 --> 01:34:56,413
Speaker 10: the just those modern changes that you've kind have done

1836
01:34:56,413 --> 01:34:59,773
Speaker 10: to the standard recipe which made it a stand out

1837
01:34:59,773 --> 01:34:59,973
Speaker 10: for me.

1838
01:35:00,133 --> 01:35:02,253
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, So any other tips for Athens.

1839
01:35:03,533 --> 01:35:10,093
Speaker 10: Super quick libationis the a gorgeous little distillery in Pluca

1840
01:35:10,213 --> 01:35:14,133
Speaker 10: just below the Acropolis called Brettos. Now, the reason I

1841
01:35:14,213 --> 01:35:17,933
Speaker 10: mentioned this is because this is Greece's oldest operating distillery

1842
01:35:18,493 --> 01:35:21,133
Speaker 10: and it's walls aligned with all of these colorful glass

1843
01:35:21,133 --> 01:35:23,853
Speaker 10: bottles or the cures. It looks like a scene out

1844
01:35:23,853 --> 01:35:28,533
Speaker 10: of Shakespeare, like a medieval apothecary. It's just amazing, and

1845
01:35:28,613 --> 01:35:32,013
Speaker 10: the uzzo's legendary. That will put some pep in your

1846
01:35:32,133 --> 01:35:36,293
Speaker 10: step as you lug your way up Lickabetta's Hill. Now,

1847
01:35:36,333 --> 01:35:38,773
Speaker 10: the reason you want to go to Licibetta's heill is

1848
01:35:38,813 --> 01:35:42,013
Speaker 10: because it's a lot higher than the acropolis and go

1849
01:35:42,093 --> 01:35:45,653
Speaker 10: up there for sundowners on the summit you get the

1850
01:35:45,853 --> 01:35:49,973
Speaker 10: most delirious panorama across Athens as the lights come on

1851
01:35:50,453 --> 01:35:52,933
Speaker 10: and the sun drops into the aegean.

1852
01:35:52,813 --> 01:35:56,093
Speaker 2: Ah sounds so good. Hey, thank you, Mike. That is superb.

1853
01:35:56,333 --> 01:36:00,053
Speaker 2: We'll make sure all of your tips for enjoying athens

1854
01:36:00,173 --> 01:36:03,213
Speaker 2: culinary treasures are up on the newstalk Z'DB website. And

1855
01:36:03,253 --> 01:36:05,573
Speaker 2: don't worry, Mike. Well you back with us next Saturday

1856
01:36:05,613 --> 01:36:09,093
Speaker 2: morning with more of his sporting tips and dates. Speaking of,

1857
01:36:09,453 --> 01:36:12,613
Speaker 2: Jason Pine is on his way to Eden Park preparing

1858
01:36:12,613 --> 01:36:15,733
Speaker 2: for weekend sport. This afternoon, we'll get Piney's thoughts on

1859
01:36:15,893 --> 01:36:18,853
Speaker 2: conditions in the nine, where or not the All Blacks

1860
01:36:19,293 --> 01:36:22,293
Speaker 2: are likely to hold on to that thirty year winning

1861
01:36:22,413 --> 01:36:24,413
Speaker 2: streak at the House of Eden. He's with us in

1862
01:36:24,413 --> 01:36:26,853
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. It's just coming up to eleven thirty.

1863
01:36:26,973 --> 01:36:28,653
Speaker 2: You're a Jack Tame on News Talks EDB.

1864
01:36:34,333 --> 01:36:36,013
Speaker 4: Getting your weekends started.

1865
01:36:36,213 --> 01:36:39,893
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

1866
01:36:48,333 --> 01:36:48,573
Speaker 2: Nine.

1867
01:36:52,773 --> 01:36:58,013
Speaker 19: I'm falling a part riding front of peddle Bees.

1868
01:37:04,973 --> 01:37:08,053
Speaker 2: I love Teddy Swims, so good day. Just gone to

1869
01:37:08,093 --> 01:37:10,373
Speaker 2: leven thirty on News Tooks. He'd be after twelve o'clock.

1870
01:37:10,453 --> 01:37:14,013
Speaker 2: Jason Pine is live from the venue at which the

1871
01:37:14,053 --> 01:37:18,533
Speaker 2: All Blacks have not lost in thirty years. Nineteen ninety four,

1872
01:37:18,653 --> 01:37:20,933
Speaker 2: their last loss at Eden Park. Of course, they're counting

1873
01:37:20,973 --> 01:37:24,133
Speaker 2: down to kick off tonight, the second Test against England

1874
01:37:24,493 --> 01:37:27,453
Speaker 2: right after seven o'clock, and Jason Pine is broadcasting there

1875
01:37:27,453 --> 01:37:30,613
Speaker 2: for us this afternoon. Good morning, sir, Hello, sir.

1876
01:37:30,653 --> 01:37:32,493
Speaker 23: Look, I'm looking out here at Eden Park now and

1877
01:37:32,653 --> 01:37:36,133
Speaker 23: thinking about those last thirty years and thinking about some

1878
01:37:36,173 --> 01:37:37,213
Speaker 23: of the amazing moments.

1879
01:37:37,413 --> 01:37:40,493
Speaker 6: I reckon, I'm looking at the part of Eden Park now.

1880
01:37:40,573 --> 01:37:45,253
Speaker 23: Jack, where Beaver kicked that goal, Yeah, in the twenty eleven.

1881
01:37:45,093 --> 01:37:48,413
Speaker 2: Roun with a sort of lower back hanging out of

1882
01:37:48,413 --> 01:37:48,853
Speaker 2: his shirt.

1883
01:37:48,973 --> 01:37:51,693
Speaker 23: Right, Shall I go down and maybe recreate that with

1884
01:37:51,773 --> 01:37:53,293
Speaker 23: my own lower back hanging gown?

1885
01:37:53,333 --> 01:37:55,253
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody needs to see that.

1886
01:37:55,853 --> 01:37:59,613
Speaker 23: What a day, an absolute cracker, And at the moment,

1887
01:38:00,013 --> 01:38:03,053
Speaker 23: obviously nobody here apart from the ground staff putting the

1888
01:38:03,053 --> 01:38:06,053
Speaker 23: final touches on things, the broadcast team setting up, and

1889
01:38:06,133 --> 01:38:07,973
Speaker 23: you know, various caterers and those sort of people. But

1890
01:38:08,333 --> 01:38:10,573
Speaker 23: looking out here now, they've put extra seats in, as

1891
01:38:10,573 --> 01:38:12,893
Speaker 23: you know, Jack, forty seven thousand set to turn out tonight.

1892
01:38:12,933 --> 01:38:13,813
Speaker 6: What an occasion it'll be.

1893
01:38:13,893 --> 01:38:15,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be amazing. So what are you expecting?

1894
01:38:15,853 --> 01:38:18,373
Speaker 2: What sort of changes are you expecting from last week.

1895
01:38:18,773 --> 01:38:21,573
Speaker 23: Well, I kind of don't expect too many because it's

1896
01:38:21,613 --> 01:38:24,053
Speaker 23: the same group of players by and large. You know,

1897
01:38:24,093 --> 01:38:25,453
Speaker 23: the All Blacks have had to make the one change

1898
01:38:25,493 --> 01:38:28,133
Speaker 23: at half back. England have had a couple of changes

1899
01:38:28,173 --> 01:38:30,373
Speaker 23: forced on them, But I can't really see it being

1900
01:38:30,693 --> 01:38:33,133
Speaker 23: too different. The only caveat to that is these two

1901
01:38:33,173 --> 01:38:35,853
Speaker 23: teams now have a frame of reference from last week.

1902
01:38:35,853 --> 01:38:37,213
Speaker 6: They know what the others going to bring.

1903
01:38:37,413 --> 01:38:39,973
Speaker 23: They've had a week to strategize, to look at ways

1904
01:38:40,013 --> 01:38:45,533
Speaker 23: of you know, nullifying the other's strengths and perhaps capitalizing

1905
01:38:45,573 --> 01:38:48,013
Speaker 23: on the weaknesses. So I think it'll be a similar

1906
01:38:48,093 --> 01:38:49,653
Speaker 23: kind of a game. I've still got the All Blacks

1907
01:38:49,653 --> 01:38:51,293
Speaker 23: wanting it, and I've got them winning it by more

1908
01:38:51,333 --> 01:38:53,493
Speaker 23: than a point this time, Jack. But I wouldn't be

1909
01:38:53,533 --> 01:38:55,493
Speaker 23: at all surprised if it's a tight, tight affair.

1910
01:38:55,573 --> 01:38:58,893
Speaker 2: Again. Yeah, I see last week, I wouldn't it was fair.

1911
01:38:58,933 --> 01:39:01,613
Speaker 2: I wouldn't describe it as an enjoyable game to watch.

1912
01:39:01,653 --> 01:39:04,053
Speaker 2: I felt kind of stressed throughout it. Maybe I don't know,

1913
01:39:04,093 --> 01:39:09,013
Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe I'm you know, catastrophizing things a little bit.

1914
01:39:09,053 --> 01:39:10,653
Speaker 2: But you would sort of hope that there's just a

1915
01:39:10,693 --> 01:39:13,693
Speaker 2: little more cohesion as well. Damien Mackenzie at ten again,

1916
01:39:13,773 --> 01:39:17,253
Speaker 2: obviously we would hope that he's going to take his

1917
01:39:17,413 --> 01:39:21,573
Speaker 2: penalty kicks very comfortably within the alloted time. I think

1918
01:39:21,573 --> 01:39:24,853
Speaker 2: it's a lesson that has probably been learned. But yeah, yeah,

1919
01:39:24,893 --> 01:39:26,733
Speaker 2: like you say, I guess there's a frame of reference

1920
01:39:26,773 --> 01:39:28,613
Speaker 2: that both teams will be working off now, so it'll

1921
01:39:28,613 --> 01:39:32,453
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how they go. Monday morning, seven

1922
01:39:32,493 --> 01:39:36,013
Speaker 2: am Euro Final Spain England. You would have to say

1923
01:39:36,013 --> 01:39:39,173
Speaker 2: that Spain has overcome tougher competition to make their way

1924
01:39:39,213 --> 01:39:41,413
Speaker 2: to the final, but England came right.

1925
01:39:42,933 --> 01:39:45,333
Speaker 23: It's such an interesting tournament this and you know, you

1926
01:39:45,373 --> 01:39:47,813
Speaker 23: and I were chatting before we just before I set

1927
01:39:47,853 --> 01:39:50,373
Speaker 23: off Redden Park this morning, and look, Italy can't win it,

1928
01:39:50,453 --> 01:39:52,813
Speaker 23: Germany can't win it, the Netherlands can't win it, France

1929
01:39:52,853 --> 01:39:53,333
Speaker 23: can't win it.

1930
01:39:53,573 --> 01:39:56,133
Speaker 6: England can still win the Euros. Yeah, they are there.

1931
01:39:56,173 --> 01:39:58,653
Speaker 23: It's not so much about how they got there, it's

1932
01:39:58,693 --> 01:40:00,973
Speaker 23: that they are there. Spain of favorite, Spain a favorite,

1933
01:40:00,973 --> 01:40:05,693
Speaker 23: absolutely what a team and you know, some eye catching

1934
01:40:05,733 --> 01:40:08,493
Speaker 23: football on there. England have had have gone the very

1935
01:40:08,493 --> 01:40:11,653
Speaker 23: securitiest route to Berlin, I have to say, but they

1936
01:40:11,733 --> 01:40:14,853
Speaker 23: are there, and it almost feels as though it's written

1937
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:15,453
Speaker 23: in the stars.

1938
01:40:15,493 --> 01:40:16,333
Speaker 6: In some way.

1939
01:40:16,093 --> 01:40:19,693
Speaker 23: They've found ways to win, be it through late goals,

1940
01:40:19,853 --> 01:40:23,373
Speaker 23: extra time, appenalty shootout, they found all sorts of different

1941
01:40:23,413 --> 01:40:26,333
Speaker 23: ways to get to the finals. So who knows, they

1942
01:40:26,333 --> 01:40:29,253
Speaker 23: may have one more way of winning a football match

1943
01:40:29,253 --> 01:40:32,693
Speaker 23: which would send the entire country. Yet imagine Jack in

1944
01:40:32,733 --> 01:40:34,653
Speaker 23: to delirium for at least the next time.

1945
01:40:34,653 --> 01:40:37,053
Speaker 2: It would be crazy if they If they won, it

1946
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:39,853
Speaker 2: would just be crazy in a way that it probably

1947
01:40:39,893 --> 01:40:43,373
Speaker 2: wouldn't be for most other you know, relatively, I think

1948
01:40:43,373 --> 01:40:46,733
Speaker 2: we can call them a top tier European national football teams,

1949
01:40:46,773 --> 01:40:48,453
Speaker 2: right like I mean if Spain wins, Yep, it'll be

1950
01:40:48,493 --> 01:40:51,053
Speaker 2: crazy in Spain, but not quite as crazy as it

1951
01:40:51,053 --> 01:40:52,293
Speaker 2: would probably be in England.

1952
01:40:52,333 --> 01:40:53,213
Speaker 6: I think we look at that.

1953
01:40:53,213 --> 01:40:54,973
Speaker 23: You talk about droughts like no one's beaten the All

1954
01:40:54,973 --> 01:40:57,493
Speaker 23: Blacks here in Eden Park in thirty years. England haven't

1955
01:40:57,533 --> 01:41:01,093
Speaker 23: won anything since nineteen sixty six. That is a long

1956
01:41:01,093 --> 01:41:03,173
Speaker 23: time ago, Jack, So that is a that is a

1957
01:41:03,213 --> 01:41:06,573
Speaker 23: pressure valve that would be released with great enthusias as

1958
01:41:06,573 --> 01:41:09,493
Speaker 23: I'm across the across the United Ingre not the whole

1959
01:41:09,573 --> 01:41:11,253
Speaker 23: United Kingdom, but certainly England.

1960
01:41:11,013 --> 01:41:13,453
Speaker 2: And yes probably I don't know the Wlsh and the

1961
01:41:13,453 --> 01:41:19,213
Speaker 2: scott is going to be quite as excited. The It's

1962
01:41:18,893 --> 01:41:22,373
Speaker 2: just like looking at those those teams as well. You know,

1963
01:41:22,493 --> 01:41:24,813
Speaker 2: clearly Spain has the you know, they've got the kind

1964
01:41:24,813 --> 01:41:26,773
Speaker 2: of young, dazzling talent and all that kind of thing,

1965
01:41:26,773 --> 01:41:28,693
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying England doesn't. But the thing about

1966
01:41:28,733 --> 01:41:30,573
Speaker 2: football is all you need is a couple of minutes, right,

1967
01:41:30,733 --> 01:41:32,893
Speaker 2: And it was interesting that until that game the other night,

1968
01:41:32,933 --> 01:41:35,733
Speaker 2: the only goal that the Spanish had conceded this tournament

1969
01:41:35,773 --> 01:41:38,413
Speaker 2: was an own goal against Georgia. Well, there's nothing to

1970
01:41:38,413 --> 01:41:39,933
Speaker 2: say that sort of thing won't happen again.

1971
01:41:40,173 --> 01:41:43,893
Speaker 6: No, that's that's all bets are off. All bets are off.

1972
01:41:43,933 --> 01:41:46,053
Speaker 6: Form goes out the window, use whatever cliche you like.

1973
01:41:46,333 --> 01:41:48,253
Speaker 23: It is these two teams going at one another, and

1974
01:41:48,293 --> 01:41:51,013
Speaker 23: you're right, it'll be decided by moments, and who's going

1975
01:41:51,093 --> 01:41:53,533
Speaker 23: to own those moments? And a guy like Harry Kane,

1976
01:41:53,733 --> 01:41:57,173
Speaker 23: you know he only needs one or two opportunities. Don't

1977
01:41:57,173 --> 01:41:58,533
Speaker 23: put it past England to win the whole.

1978
01:41:58,613 --> 01:42:01,213
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. Hey, thank you sir. Enjoy the

1979
01:42:01,293 --> 01:42:04,253
Speaker 2: next seventy two hours or so. Big big, big weekend

1980
01:42:04,253 --> 01:42:06,973
Speaker 2: of sport coming up, all Backcinata Course kicking off just

1981
01:42:07,013 --> 01:42:09,133
Speaker 2: after seven pm at Eden Park. Will have the call

1982
01:42:09,253 --> 01:42:11,853
Speaker 2: live view on News Talks EDB right now it is

1983
01:42:11,893 --> 01:42:12,933
Speaker 2: twenty three to twelve.

1984
01:42:14,773 --> 01:42:17,013
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

1985
01:42:17,173 --> 01:42:20,653
Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tea and Bepwart on Code

1986
01:42:20,653 --> 01:42:23,773
Speaker 1: dot Nzen for high quality supplements Used Talks.

1987
01:42:23,613 --> 01:42:27,293
Speaker 2: EDB twenty to twelve on Newstalks EDB. Katherine Rains is

1988
01:42:27,293 --> 01:42:29,093
Speaker 2: here with her book picks for us this week. She

1989
01:42:29,253 --> 01:42:33,453
Speaker 2: is our reviewer. She always has great recommendations. Morning Catherine,

1990
01:42:33,493 --> 01:42:36,693
Speaker 2: Morning Jack. So let's begin with lou Laeden's Little Library

1991
01:42:36,733 --> 01:42:41,053
Speaker 2: of Band Books, which is a fantastic title. It's a

1992
01:42:41,093 --> 01:42:42,893
Speaker 2: great title is by Kirstine Miller.

1993
01:42:43,733 --> 01:42:46,653
Speaker 24: So this book is actually about and it seems a

1994
01:42:46,653 --> 01:42:50,613
Speaker 24: message of torrance and understanding and about being judgmental when

1995
01:42:50,653 --> 01:42:53,493
Speaker 24: you don't actually know the true facts. And so it's

1996
01:42:53,493 --> 01:42:55,853
Speaker 24: in the set in the Sound of Troy in Georgia

1997
01:42:56,413 --> 01:42:59,613
Speaker 24: and Lula Deen. The main character is this characterture of

1998
01:42:59,653 --> 01:43:01,973
Speaker 24: a town busy boy. She's a widow, she's an empty nester,

1999
01:43:02,053 --> 01:43:05,533
Speaker 24: she's a a local busybody and she's taken this quest

2000
01:43:05,573 --> 01:43:08,453
Speaker 24: for attention and focus to her, and she has this

2001
01:43:08,533 --> 01:43:12,933
Speaker 24: crusade against what she terms woke lifestyles and values. And

2002
01:43:12,973 --> 01:43:16,493
Speaker 24: she's the founder and leader of the Concerned Parents Committee,

2003
01:43:16,893 --> 01:43:19,253
Speaker 24: and so she pulls books that are supposedly filled with

2004
01:43:19,253 --> 01:43:22,973
Speaker 24: pornography and propaganda out of the schools and libraries and so.

2005
01:43:23,053 --> 01:43:25,093
Speaker 24: But she also wants to ensure that the town of

2006
01:43:25,133 --> 01:43:28,133
Speaker 24: Troy has better ready material, so she sets up the

2007
01:43:28,213 --> 01:43:31,933
Speaker 24: little free library in her front yard and stocks it

2008
01:43:32,013 --> 01:43:34,733
Speaker 24: with what she terms wholesome books, with things like Chicken

2009
01:43:34,773 --> 01:43:38,093
Speaker 24: Soup for the Soul, The Southern Bowels, Guide to Etiquette,

2010
01:43:38,413 --> 01:43:42,493
Speaker 24: our Confederate Heroes, and for her neighbors to borrow. But actually,

2011
01:43:43,093 --> 01:43:47,893
Speaker 24: unknown to her, the daughter of her arch Emily Beverly Underwood,

2012
01:43:48,453 --> 01:43:52,013
Speaker 24: takes those books out and replaces them with ones on

2013
01:43:52,053 --> 01:43:54,653
Speaker 24: the banned list, hiding them under the dust jackets. And

2014
01:43:54,693 --> 01:43:58,013
Speaker 24: that's when things start to get really interesting, because via

2015
01:43:58,053 --> 01:44:00,253
Speaker 24: the books, you see the spotlight on this town and

2016
01:44:00,293 --> 01:44:03,293
Speaker 24: it's different inhabitants and the divergent views and lives. And

2017
01:44:03,293 --> 01:44:05,813
Speaker 24: there's a huge cast of characters in this and some

2018
01:44:05,853 --> 01:44:07,973
Speaker 24: of the stories really funny and make you laugh, and

2019
01:44:08,013 --> 01:44:10,533
Speaker 24: some are the complete opposite of that, and Sea of

2020
01:44:10,533 --> 01:44:13,813
Speaker 24: Shen shivers down your spine and it exposes the hypocrisy

2021
01:44:13,933 --> 01:44:17,333
Speaker 24: and misogyny and racism and anti seminism and all the

2022
01:44:17,373 --> 01:44:20,493
Speaker 24: affiliations that people have, and it just carries this very

2023
01:44:20,493 --> 01:44:24,813
Speaker 24: interesting and timely message through each character's story. And you know,

2024
01:44:24,853 --> 01:44:26,173
Speaker 24: the author, at the end of the day is trying

2025
01:44:26,213 --> 01:44:29,253
Speaker 24: to illustrate how books don't hurt people. People hurt people,

2026
01:44:29,613 --> 01:44:32,413
Speaker 24: but books give access to new ideas and thoughts and

2027
01:44:32,453 --> 01:44:36,013
Speaker 24: perspectives and role models. And it's a story that actually

2028
01:44:36,053 --> 01:44:38,013
Speaker 24: stays with you for quite a while after which you

2029
01:44:38,453 --> 01:44:40,773
Speaker 24: I think through the messages and yeah, so great. It's

2030
01:44:40,813 --> 01:44:43,653
Speaker 24: a really well written book, but yeah, has a pretty

2031
01:44:43,653 --> 01:44:44,613
Speaker 24: serious message behind it.

2032
01:44:44,853 --> 01:44:48,133
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds great. Okay, that's lu Laeden's Little Library

2033
01:44:48,133 --> 01:44:51,093
Speaker 2: of Banned Books by Christine Miller. You've also read Asked

2034
01:44:51,173 --> 01:44:52,813
Speaker 2: Not by Maureen Callahan.

2035
01:44:53,573 --> 01:44:56,613
Speaker 24: So Maureen Callahan is actually a journalist for The Daily Mail.

2036
01:44:57,133 --> 01:45:00,413
Speaker 24: So there's a style of writing that's quite gossipy and juicy,

2037
01:45:00,453 --> 01:45:05,013
Speaker 24: and she rehashes some very well publicized scandals involving the

2038
01:45:05,093 --> 01:45:07,933
Speaker 24: members of the Kennedy family, but she still tells it

2039
01:45:08,093 --> 01:45:11,573
Speaker 24: in a very interesting perspective, and you know, lots of

2040
01:45:11,573 --> 01:45:14,373
Speaker 24: accounts of serial cheating, but also some much more serious

2041
01:45:14,453 --> 01:45:17,653
Speaker 24: crimes and rape and sex with minors and murder, and

2042
01:45:17,693 --> 01:45:21,853
Speaker 24: it's a pretty grown roll full of things that have happened.

2043
01:45:21,893 --> 01:45:24,893
Speaker 24: You know, Mary Joe who's suffocated below three feet of

2044
01:45:24,933 --> 01:45:27,853
Speaker 24: water and chapiquitic in nineteen sixty nine when she could

2045
01:45:27,893 --> 01:45:30,773
Speaker 24: have been saved. And Pamela Kelly who was thrown from

2046
01:45:30,813 --> 01:45:32,973
Speaker 24: a geep and she ends up paralyzed for life, and

2047
01:45:33,013 --> 01:45:35,293
Speaker 24: the driver, who's another Kennedy, walks away with one hundred

2048
01:45:35,333 --> 01:45:38,533
Speaker 24: dollar fine. But she also talks about the families, woman

2049
01:45:38,653 --> 01:45:42,133
Speaker 24: like Joan Kennedy who was in and out of rehab

2050
01:45:42,173 --> 01:45:46,733
Speaker 24: and lots of DUI's and Rosemary who was the daughter

2051
01:45:46,773 --> 01:45:49,573
Speaker 24: of the matriarch, and matriarch Joe and Rose Kennedy who

2052
01:45:49,693 --> 01:45:54,213
Speaker 24: was whose life was destroyed by our family authorized lobotomy,

2053
01:45:54,413 --> 01:45:57,373
Speaker 24: and you know, and much newer kind of parts of

2054
01:45:57,373 --> 01:45:59,733
Speaker 24: the Kennedy family as well, like Mary Richardson Kennedy, who's

2055
01:45:59,773 --> 01:46:03,293
Speaker 24: the second wife of Robert F. Kennedy, who's the current

2056
01:46:03,333 --> 01:46:05,813
Speaker 24: presidential candidate, you know, who took her own life in

2057
01:46:05,973 --> 01:46:08,933
Speaker 24: twenty twelve and so, but she tells it from the

2058
01:46:08,973 --> 01:46:12,613
Speaker 24: sort of multi generational family legacy which begins with Joe Kennedy,

2059
01:46:12,653 --> 01:46:14,853
Speaker 24: who built the family fortune and a family to go

2060
01:46:14,933 --> 01:46:17,373
Speaker 24: with it, and his Catholic wife Rose, who turns a

2061
01:46:17,373 --> 01:46:20,733
Speaker 24: blind eye to his sequence of mistresses, and so his

2062
01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:24,533
Speaker 24: habit of treating woman as accessories passed down to his sons.

2063
01:46:24,573 --> 01:46:27,093
Speaker 24: And you know John Kennedy's white house, you know, an

2064
01:46:27,133 --> 01:46:30,613
Speaker 24: age called it a conveyor belt of young woman. And

2065
01:46:30,653 --> 01:46:36,653
Speaker 24: so she paints this picture of a very toxic, narcissistic, cruel, snobbish, entitled,

2066
01:46:36,773 --> 01:46:40,013
Speaker 24: an extremely unpleasant family and the fact that the Kennedy

2067
01:46:40,053 --> 01:46:43,493
Speaker 24: men have got away because of this sphere of influence

2068
01:46:43,573 --> 01:46:47,733
Speaker 24: with you know, some very serious crimes and really no

2069
01:46:47,973 --> 01:46:50,853
Speaker 24: serious accountability, and they're still admired and referred to as

2070
01:46:50,933 --> 01:46:54,173
Speaker 24: America's royal family, and press courage has kind of protected

2071
01:46:54,173 --> 01:46:56,853
Speaker 24: them well, has protected them as they've gone along, and

2072
01:46:56,893 --> 01:47:00,013
Speaker 24: it's just fascinating because she sort of redirects the spotlight

2073
01:47:00,133 --> 01:47:04,933
Speaker 24: back to the woman and the Kennedy Kennedy family and

2074
01:47:04,973 --> 01:47:07,213
Speaker 24: you know, puts them much more at the sea of

2075
01:47:07,333 --> 01:47:09,853
Speaker 24: the story and how they should be. And yeah, it's

2076
01:47:09,973 --> 01:47:12,373
Speaker 24: it's interesting when you kind of put everything together and

2077
01:47:12,413 --> 01:47:14,253
Speaker 24: you look at you know, what's gone on in the

2078
01:47:14,253 --> 01:47:15,253
Speaker 24: family over the years.

2079
01:47:15,373 --> 01:47:17,933
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, it got away with a lot.

2080
01:47:18,093 --> 01:47:20,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds really intriguing. Even if you're not, you know,

2081
01:47:20,453 --> 01:47:22,813
Speaker 2: super into the into the Kennedys. It sounds like there's

2082
01:47:22,933 --> 01:47:24,693
Speaker 2: still a lot to learn here and told in a

2083
01:47:24,693 --> 01:47:27,373
Speaker 2: really compelling way. So it sounds intriguing. Thank you. That's

2084
01:47:27,613 --> 01:47:31,333
Speaker 2: asked not by Maureen Callahan. The first book is Lula

2085
01:47:31,373 --> 01:47:34,293
Speaker 2: Dean's Little Library of Band Books by Kirstine Miller. Will

2086
01:47:34,293 --> 01:47:36,333
Speaker 2: have all of the details for those books, just along

2087
01:47:36,333 --> 01:47:38,013
Speaker 2: with everything about else from our show up on the

2088
01:47:38,013 --> 01:47:40,693
Speaker 2: News Talks. He'd be website in a couple of minutes.

2089
01:47:40,733 --> 01:47:43,493
Speaker 2: Don't get a surprise when you hear em and M's voice.

2090
01:47:43,533 --> 01:47:46,853
Speaker 2: He's just released his latest album, The Death of Slim Shady.

2091
01:47:46,893 --> 01:47:48,093
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a bit of a listening a couple

2092
01:47:48,133 --> 01:47:48,973
Speaker 2: of minutes on Newstalks.

2093
01:47:48,973 --> 01:47:51,573
Speaker 1: He'd be giving you the inside scoop on All you

2094
01:47:51,733 --> 01:47:54,853
Speaker 1: Need to Know Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure

2095
01:47:54,933 --> 01:47:58,653
Speaker 1: dot co dot nz for high Quality Supplements, News Talks edb.

2096
01:48:00,973 --> 01:48:04,373
Speaker 11: Well's writing Aldy for the bub just got car tagging

2097
01:48:04,453 --> 01:48:06,613
Speaker 11: out by the Center for a score for ser Off.

2098
01:48:06,653 --> 01:48:08,053
Speaker 2: The alarm keeps on, keep streaming.

2099
01:48:08,093 --> 01:48:10,133
Speaker 11: You're gonna drop the bomb, but anyway, every day.

2100
01:48:10,453 --> 01:48:15,973
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it right here. That is you know

2101
01:48:16,093 --> 01:48:19,213
Speaker 2: the voice immediately. His new album is called The Death

2102
01:48:19,253 --> 01:48:23,013
Speaker 2: of Slim Shady. That song is called Brand New Dance,

2103
01:48:23,093 --> 01:48:26,213
Speaker 2: and our music reviewers Dell Clifford has been listening Good Morning.

2104
01:48:27,333 --> 01:48:29,493
Speaker 25: Projessa Olivia had to work cut out for her today,

2105
01:48:29,973 --> 01:48:32,973
Speaker 25: where we've hit a cut every swear word known to man,

2106
01:48:33,893 --> 01:48:36,693
Speaker 25: which you would imagine as part of a slim Shady album.

2107
01:48:37,013 --> 01:48:41,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of these people who obviously devise people

2108
01:48:41,533 --> 01:48:44,013
Speaker 2: in terms of his music. But I think you'd have

2109
01:48:44,093 --> 01:48:46,253
Speaker 2: to be a pretty miserable person to listen to slim

2110
01:48:46,333 --> 01:48:48,973
Speaker 2: Shady and listen to Eminem and not agree that he

2111
01:48:49,093 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 2: has a really profound talent.

2112
01:48:51,693 --> 01:48:55,493
Speaker 14: Oh absolutely, that's what is evident in this album.

2113
01:48:55,613 --> 01:48:58,213
Speaker 25: So you've gone back to this place where you're like, whoa,

2114
01:48:58,413 --> 01:49:01,933
Speaker 25: this dude can still do those rap belts that he

2115
01:49:02,053 --> 01:49:04,653
Speaker 25: does where it's so fast you're like, where does he

2116
01:49:04,733 --> 01:49:05,333
Speaker 25: even breathe?

2117
01:49:05,773 --> 01:49:08,653
Speaker 14: So he's still has all of that going on in here,

2118
01:49:09,093 --> 01:49:10,493
Speaker 14: and then he has those catchy like.

2119
01:49:10,533 --> 01:49:13,973
Speaker 25: That chune their brand New dance typical Shady, A like

2120
01:49:14,053 --> 01:49:16,693
Speaker 25: it's catchy beat the metlad that you're kind of getting

2121
01:49:16,733 --> 01:49:18,853
Speaker 25: taken away with it and you're like, oh man, this

2122
01:49:19,013 --> 01:49:21,413
Speaker 25: is kind of fun and it sounds innocent, and then

2123
01:49:21,453 --> 01:49:26,533
Speaker 25: you're like he's just bagging Christopher Reeves again, like oh

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Speaker 25: my gosh, you're going to go back there, but with

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Speaker 25: some other I don't know.

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Speaker 14: He has clever wordplay and so that's still very evident

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Speaker 14: in slim Shady as well.

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Speaker 25: And I think if you just revisit this, because this

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Speaker 25: is the whole chat about to day, like the world

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Speaker 25: is different since nineteen ninety nine, so can you still

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Speaker 25: say the same stuff and get away with it? And

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Speaker 25: then if you think slim Shady is an alter ego,

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Speaker 25: is that what then makes it okay to say some

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Speaker 25: of this stuff? So this is the final blow, right,

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Speaker 25: this is the album that's meant to take out slim Shady,

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Speaker 25: but it kind of leaves you going, does it.

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Speaker 9: For me?

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Speaker 14: Anyway?

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Speaker 25: He has advised Eminem has advice that you shoul listen

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Speaker 25: from start to finish. So since like you know, midnight

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Speaker 25: last night when it finally came out.

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Speaker 2: You've been working hard.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, there's nothing like waiting to your child goes to bed,

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Speaker 25: and then I'm like, Wow, she's gonna hear these words eventually,

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Speaker 25: so why not on a Saturday morning at our house.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: It's a real interesting listen for the fact that I

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Speaker 25: think you can innocently listen to it for all the

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Speaker 25: clever beats and you know, the production work where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 25: that's so catchy, and he uses threads from past music

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Speaker 25: and albums, so it's like, got that nostalgia vibe about

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01:50:41,253 --> 01:50:45,333
Speaker 25: it that brings you in. There's a track called Lucifer

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01:50:45,493 --> 01:50:49,413
Speaker 25: and it's got like this little looped rhythm melody that's

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01:50:49,453 --> 01:50:52,173
Speaker 25: going through it that sounds like you're my big Greek wedding,

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01:50:52,293 --> 01:50:53,253
Speaker 25: like something off the movie.

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Speaker 14: And so again you're like, oh gosh, this is so catchy.

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Speaker 25: And then he's just dissing on political commentator Kendice Owens

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Speaker 25: and Mega, So you know, like, I think that's the

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Speaker 25: thing about some shady you kind of delve a little

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Speaker 25: deeper every time you sort of listen to it. Who

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Speaker 25: Deni is one of the first singles he released in

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Speaker 25: anticipation of this album coming out. He incorporates Ebraca Debra,

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Speaker 25: which I think we're going to play some of from

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Speaker 25: Steve Miller bands. And when I just say it like that,

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Speaker 25: you'll be like what.

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Speaker 14: But as soon as you Abra.

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Speaker 25: Na Nana and Steve Miller is all like, yes, Eminem

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Speaker 25: totally use one of my songs. He called them one

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Speaker 25: of those timeless originators who can take classics, put their

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Speaker 25: own spin on them and use them but also knows

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Speaker 25: to credit to the person who originally did it as

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01:51:43,293 --> 01:51:44,653
Speaker 25: a poster that it's ripping stuff off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very.

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Speaker 25: Aware, isn't he, Like as Eminem slim shady Marshall methods,

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01:51:51,813 --> 01:51:56,053
Speaker 25: he's very aware of what's socially around, what's politically around,

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01:51:56,613 --> 01:51:57,493
Speaker 25: what's going on on.

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Speaker 14: TikTok, what's going on on social media.

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Speaker 25: Because then he just puts it all into his album

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Speaker 25: and then randomly, halfway through the album gets emotional about

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01:52:05,453 --> 01:52:06,973
Speaker 25: his daughter and you got it back to one of

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01:52:07,013 --> 01:52:08,853
Speaker 25: those places you know where he pens.

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Speaker 2: Seems really like amazingly well rounded and normal. Is that fair?

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01:52:15,813 --> 01:52:20,413
Speaker 2: Is another world Yeah, where you're like, oh man, oh,

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01:52:20,613 --> 01:52:23,933
Speaker 2: you know, Eminem's probably had a pretty crazy life, but

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Speaker 2: she just seems really cool.

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01:52:26,533 --> 01:52:28,893
Speaker 25: Well, maybe she's just had some other really normal people

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01:52:28,973 --> 01:52:32,733
Speaker 25: behind the scenes to helping guide the way she's been

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01:52:32,773 --> 01:52:34,053
Speaker 25: able to see her dad for who he is.

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Speaker 14: I think that's the other thing though.

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Speaker 25: He's never shied away from who he is totally, and

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01:52:37,613 --> 01:52:40,053
Speaker 25: he's given that exactly to his kids, and he apologizes

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01:52:40,093 --> 01:52:43,013
Speaker 25: it for for it profusely and nearly every single album.

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01:52:44,213 --> 01:52:46,013
Speaker 25: But it's funny, right because you're getting taken away with

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01:52:46,053 --> 01:52:48,693
Speaker 25: some of these real big slams and then suddenly you

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01:52:48,773 --> 01:52:51,053
Speaker 25: get all emotional and this vulnerable layer comes out and

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01:52:51,133 --> 01:52:52,973
Speaker 25: he finishes the album like that as well, which I

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01:52:52,973 --> 01:52:56,373
Speaker 25: think is supposed to be that final see your Latest,

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Speaker 25: But I don't know. I mean, this is just an

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Speaker 25: album where he's like, he's just spitting out stuff about,

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01:53:04,413 --> 01:53:08,613
Speaker 25: you know, the woke society. There's so many references about

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Speaker 25: Caitlyn Jenna and also being gay.

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Speaker 14: And I'm like, what's the thing with yea and yeah

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01:53:17,013 --> 01:53:18,293
Speaker 14: and the whole I'm willing to.

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01:53:18,333 --> 01:53:21,333
Speaker 25: Accept people, but do we have to be so woke

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01:53:21,413 --> 01:53:23,733
Speaker 25: about it with all the different pronouns and things like that?

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01:53:23,893 --> 01:53:25,373
Speaker 25: And then I'm like that again, is that just because

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01:53:25,413 --> 01:53:27,613
Speaker 25: Slim Shady can get away of saying that he has

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01:53:27,733 --> 01:53:29,853
Speaker 25: arguments with himself in the album eminem.

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Speaker 2: It sounds at the very least like it's like worth

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Speaker 2: listening just from that kind of conceptual perspective. So what

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Speaker 2: did you give it?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I'm giving it a seven out of ten. Some

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01:53:39,093 --> 01:53:41,773
Speaker 25: are saying his best album ever. I'm not quite there yet.

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01:53:41,813 --> 01:53:44,653
Speaker 25: I think I still love nineteen ninety nine slim Shady. Yeah,

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01:53:44,693 --> 01:53:47,213
Speaker 25: but he's still clever, and he's still incredible with the

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01:53:47,733 --> 01:53:49,573
Speaker 25: co leaves and the work that he does. And I think,

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01:53:50,213 --> 01:53:51,973
Speaker 25: just out of social interest, you want to hear it,

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01:53:52,013 --> 01:53:52,453
Speaker 25: you know, And.

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Speaker 2: Even if it's the Death of Slim Shady, he can

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01:53:54,693 --> 01:53:56,653
Speaker 2: still release music at eminem, right.

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01:53:57,533 --> 01:54:01,333
Speaker 25: Because it caricature, that's right, And it's a caricature alter ego,

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01:54:01,573 --> 01:54:03,733
Speaker 25: like don't we kind I want to just escapism? Yeah,

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01:54:04,173 --> 01:54:06,533
Speaker 25: So we shouldn't take it so seriously, like there he's

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01:54:06,573 --> 01:54:08,853
Speaker 25: always that thing for me. Is he being serious or

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01:54:08,893 --> 01:54:11,213
Speaker 25: has he just been so tongue and chet provocative?

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01:54:11,653 --> 01:54:14,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he wants to.

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01:54:14,133 --> 01:54:15,973
Speaker 14: Poke the beer. He's poking the beer is a seven

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Speaker 14: out of ten.

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Speaker 2: Very good, Thank you so much. As seven for the

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Speaker 2: Death of Slim Shady. We'll have a bit more of

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Speaker 2: a listen in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: This is Eminem the Death of Slim Shady. The song

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Speaker 2: is called Houdini say his own cancel.

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Speaker 9: Me what okay?

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01:55:21,373 --> 01:55:21,653
Speaker 3: That's it?

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01:55:21,813 --> 01:55:24,613
Speaker 15: Go ahead, quit snake gas, brick you mail cross dress.

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01:55:24,933 --> 01:55:27,493
Speaker 8: Think that I'll probably get shoot for that one.

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Speaker 4: But you can also blue fact the Drake, Jimmy Me.

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Speaker 16: Kids, the Brat, Come on, Biggest Wood, got two balls,

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Speaker 16: the biggest boot paws.

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Speaker 4: Would you got ju.

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Speaker 8: Salt with you song?

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01:55:40,173 --> 01:55:41,853
Speaker 4: Because you never go see me fuss.

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Speaker 11: Leave you see the kid napping never did have me Like.

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Speaker 4: Sherry Bpeni, Harry Houdini, I'm vanishing through the than nearest.

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Speaker 25: I'm leaving my.

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Speaker 1: Form, my last drink.

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Speaker 9: Like a.

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Speaker 2: Form, my last drink like that back bro.

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Speaker 4: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack.

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