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Speaker 1: Community advocate David Litteally has announced he will be shutting

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Speaker 1: down his South Auckland food Bank, which was supplying up

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Speaker 1: to one thousand families a week. The operation received eighty

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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars worth of government support, but it was

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Speaker 1: distributing more than five hundred thousand dollars worth of food.

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Speaker 1: David Littally says he can no longer sustain the costs

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Speaker 1: of running the food bank as government funding isn't enough

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Speaker 1: to cut it. And David Littally joins me, now, hey, Dave,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh, not too bad? Tough David, it's all good push through.

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Speaker 1: How big of an impact will this have on the community?

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Speaker 1: What happens to these families?

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's an absolute nightmare. I mean we leave

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Speaker 2: a huge gap in the community and we just we've

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Speaker 2: got to try work alongside and make sure that we

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Speaker 2: can connect families into other social services. There are services

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Speaker 2: out there that get the line share of the funding,

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Speaker 2: but they're not as high profile and out there as us,

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Speaker 2: and you know, they should be quite easy if you

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Speaker 2: need the help, that's where they are, just like we are.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so look, people are thinking, well, how does

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Speaker 2: it appel to help so many will It feels great,

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Speaker 2: but now it's the double edged sword because it feels

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Speaker 2: it feels really bad. You know. You know, I've choked

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Speaker 2: up a few times when I think about where where

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Speaker 2: the family is going to go? So, yeah, up across

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Speaker 2: that bridge.

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Speaker 1: Look, but Dave, you're helping. You are still helping in

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Speaker 1: so many ways, you know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we have to focus on the on the

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Speaker 2: hand up stuff that we're doing. We continue on with

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Speaker 2: all the programs that we run, the health programs, you know,

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Speaker 2: the employment programs and all that type of stuff. So yep,

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Speaker 2: that's where we're heading. And we pivoted in COVID to

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Speaker 2: get into the space, and now we have to pivot again.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise it could will just sink everything.

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Speaker 1: And is that that's why you're pivoting, so that you

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Speaker 1: don't lose everything. You can still keep those other programs running.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Otherwise you know there's going to be you know,

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Speaker 2: across our organization, twenty staff that will be finished. So

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Speaker 2: you know, if I look at our trust account, you

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Speaker 2: know we have which I think is typical at the moment,

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Speaker 2: we have about three months. If things would have stopped,

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Speaker 2: we have about three months. We could keep going. But

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Speaker 2: we'd have no months if we kept going with what

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Speaker 2: we're doing with the food share. So you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean I did this publicly as well, because people need

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Speaker 2: to understand how tough charities and community groups are going

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Speaker 2: at the moment. You know, so many groups have already stopped,

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Speaker 2: not just stopped one part of the operation, they've stopped everything.

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Speaker 2: So there's all these people that are losing their jobs.

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Speaker 2: You know, you've got the All Consiting Mission. They're struggling.

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Speaker 2: You know, got groups like that, groups like us. So

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Speaker 2: you know, if groups like us, it's across the country

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Speaker 2: stopped because we can no longer continue. We are in

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Speaker 2: deep trouble in this country.

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Speaker 1: Dave, Is there any sign of a lifeline coming through?

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Speaker 2: I did have a you know, I've had one organization

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Speaker 2: reach out and say we could help cover your lease.

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Speaker 2: That's through what you know, we've had the Wayne Brown's

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Speaker 2: office reached out and said how much do you need?

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Speaker 2: So some promising signs there, But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to taken off other groups. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's so I haven't had anything from the government yet.

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Speaker 2: I just think, look, we're we hear everything we do

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Speaker 2: actually aligns really well with NAT. You know, we are

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Speaker 2: a hand up and not becoming not having people become

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Speaker 2: reliant on handouts and working for you know, break cycles

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Speaker 2: of poverty. But we just can't, you know, we just

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Speaker 2: can't get them the door.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Dave, you know, if you did get a

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Speaker 1: lifeline that it was for a short period of time,

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Speaker 1: do you actually want to take it? I mean, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, you sound tired. This sounds like

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Speaker 1: far too much hard work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the last few years. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're trying to raise a million bucks every year for

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Speaker 2: one part of your organization. It's and then you think like, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, we do this for children, like no matter

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Speaker 2: what people think of the parents, right, no matter what,

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Speaker 2: it's not the kid's fault. And that's what drives me.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing that's just so disheartening, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that these issues. I mean, it's such such a

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Speaker 2: common sense approach. You just have to support the groups

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Speaker 2: on the ground having impact with no resource. But it's

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Speaker 2: a long term thinking. You can't fix these problems over

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Speaker 2: three years. It needs to be need a book at

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Speaker 2: It's okay, let's start now in best Now so things

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Speaker 2: are better for our grand cldren.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that this is just the start of

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Speaker 1: more closures? Is this the reality for food banks and

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Speaker 1: charities is just not enough grants to go around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had a lot of groups already closed, and

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Speaker 2: that's that's why I've done this publicly. A lot of

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Speaker 2: group's already closed. There's a lot of big groups are

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Speaker 2: really struggling, really struggling. And you know, he's a group

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't think of struggling, like people would look at

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Speaker 2: us and say, oh, this guy's out there, has got

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Speaker 2: a big brand. He must just be rolling and it's

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Speaker 2: just toddle opposite day.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, hey, look, I know it's been a tough

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Speaker 1: day for you, but thanks for everything you've done, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time today.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: That was Dave la Tally. They're talking about the fact

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Speaker 1: that he can no longer sustain the cost of running

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Speaker 1: his food bank, can He just sounds frustrated and exhausted

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Speaker 1: by the whole thing, doesn't he. Hurricane Milton has made

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Speaker 1: landfall Florida, over five point five million residents. We're told

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Speaker 1: to evacuate. Allison Petrowski is our Channel nine US correspondent.

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Speaker 1: She is in the ground in Florida. We are going

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Speaker 1: to catch up with her after five to get the latest.

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