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Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome today. It's bye bye Kim dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Our Prime minister hits Canberra having looked at big drills

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Speaker 2: in Sydney yesterday. We've got some good news around labor

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Speaker 2: do the week, of course. Richard Arnold Murray olds they

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Speaker 2: provide peerless international report. Hong pasking seven past six, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Friday.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you listen and watch question time in Parliament, you

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Speaker 2: will have seen the Greens pap of the government around

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Speaker 2: a potential Palestinian visa. To this point, the government has

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Speaker 2: avoided a major scrap by suggesting, apart from anything, it's

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Speaker 2: hard to get here. In fact, the being hard to

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Speaker 2: get here is one of the great advantages of where

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Speaker 2: we are on the map. The refugee come illegal migrant

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Speaker 2: disaster that's playing out and far too many parts of

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Speaker 2: that we really don't know how lucky we are Australia

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Speaker 2: far but not quite as far, has had boat issues

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Speaker 2: with enormous social and political ramifications. The United States election

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Speaker 2: massive mistake, and it's been helped by the head of ASIO.

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Speaker 2: They're foreign security people who suggest that if you fund Hamas,

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Speaker 2: that's bad, but if you just have a soft spot

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Speaker 2: make out, that's good enough to get you into Australia

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Speaker 2: nowhere to leading the Poles. See, it's not often you

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Speaker 2: see a government in Australia trip as badly as the

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Speaker 2: Albanezy one has and run the very real risk of

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Speaker 2: being a one term disaster. But as it sits, they

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Speaker 2: are on track for such a trick. The hot pick

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Speaker 2: issues like Palestinians and visas that's landed them in the

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Speaker 2: ongoing quagmire they're currently in. Now. Are there innocent Palestinians?

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Speaker 2: Of course there are. Are they victims of war? Yes

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Speaker 2: they are. But do they live above terrorists? Yes? Do

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Speaker 2: some sympathize with those terrorists? Yes? Does that then present

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Speaker 2: a risk not worth taking? As obvious as the answer

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Speaker 2: to that is, some amazingly can't or don't want to

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Speaker 2: see it?

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Now, as far as wars go, the Ukrainians have had

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Speaker 2: the best of weeks in a very long time. Of course,

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Speaker 2: another British tanks are being rolled out, which has led

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Speaker 2: the former president Potashenko to say more please, this.

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Speaker 4: Is the step to stop the war, This is the

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Speaker 4: step to through Russia.

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Speaker 5: Away from Ukrainian land and.

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Speaker 1: This is just to in tours.

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Speaker 2: It is impox is out of the DFC and into

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Speaker 2: wider Africa. Room. Once again, we're reminded that depending on

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two, when we had many cases in

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Speaker 4: New Hope, vaccine was made available in New Hope. No

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Speaker 4: one gave even one dose to Africa.

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Speaker 2: In the States, Joe, who it is suspected still runs

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Speaker 2: the place, is having a big tecta at the White House.

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Speaker 2: It's iron influences.

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Speaker 6: You break through, you break through ways, and I think

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Speaker 2: Also in America we have a rest in the Matthew

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Speaker 7: Doctor Placentia and doctor Chavez violated the oath they took

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Speaker 7: to care for their patients. Instead of do no harm,

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Speaker 7: they did harm so that they could make more money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, five and total doctors and multiple drug dealers. Then

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Speaker 2: in Britain, we're on one hand, the future the country

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Speaker 2: are getting their agg levels. They are better, but the

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Speaker 8: I'm determined to reform the system to make it work

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Speaker 8: in the interests of the taxpayer that have also institutions

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Speaker 2: And then on the other in court, where the A

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Speaker 2: levels didn't appear to make any difference at all, another

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Speaker 9: What you have done cannot be viewed in isolation. It

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Speaker 9: must be viewed against the background of unrest and disorder

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Speaker 2: Finally, from our Break Your Heart file, sixty year old

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Speaker 2: Jim Dryer. He's trying to swim across like Michigan tw

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty eight. K's sadly they had to

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Speaker 2: New as the World in ninety seconds. Bitter growth news.

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Speaker 2: I'll do the details on Britain. Some good news out

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Speaker 2: It'd be. In fact, we found a little bit of

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Speaker 2: Morning to you, Well done to scaler O play. Didn't

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, so good news story here. So she is up

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Speaker 2: From that rate car Nice and Walmart came to the party.

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Speaker 11: Also appetite for retail stocks there, Mike Berkshi Hathaway, they've

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Speaker 11: taken a turn in seventy million dollars steak in cosmetics

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Speaker 11: beauty chain Alter beauty be another leading indicator right now,

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Speaker 10: And then you look at consumers spending in the US.

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Speaker 11: resilient consumer, also.

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Speaker 10: Helped by falling inflation. We talked about that CPI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, if you want some fun reading over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: read about the Mars family because they're a particularly unusual setup.

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Speaker 2: But I mean they've got the dough and this is

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Speaker 11: Yes, this is the biggest M and A deal this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have a good weekend. Catch up next week PreCure it.

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Speaker 2: At B Mike Mars did it all with cash. The

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Speaker 2: news on immigration to Erica Stanford yesterday on the business

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Speaker 2: immigration news yesterday, this time Erica Stanford was giving us

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Speaker 2: details of the RC program. This morning, we've got a

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Speaker 2: of this. Philip, morning to you, good morning, good idea.

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Speaker 13: And does it solve a problem A good idea. Yes,

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Speaker 13: So we're very pleased, very pleased.

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Speaker 2: Good that's a due that it didn't do or you

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Speaker 13: Well, there were changes to visa settings last year which

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Speaker 2: She seems on top of the brief. Is that your assessment?

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Speaker 2: Is it common sense? What needed fixing? In other words,

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Speaker 13: Look, it's just a practical, real world solution to a problem.

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Speaker 13: And it doesn't endanger the government's overall goals around immigration

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Speaker 13: But it just fixes a real world problem and we're delighted.

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Speaker 2: Good. We were talking to her yesterday about the RC

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Speaker 2: Do you have that issue? I mean, there are plenty

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Speaker 13: Look over seven thousand full time in New Zealand. Of

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Speaker 2: Talksp Morning, Mike, one of the biggest challenges in RCI

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Speaker 2: employee ourself is the overhanded, dominating opinion of MSD that

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Speaker 2: three years. Well, hopefully this is getting sorted out, Mike.

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Speaker 16: stints in rehab. He'd written a book about his drug struggles.

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Speaker 16: He was brutally honest. But did any of that help

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Speaker 16: not in the end. He died last October, of course,

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Speaker 16: at age fifty four, in his waterfront home in southern California,

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Speaker 16: sitting in his hot tub. It has echoes of the

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Speaker 16: Whitney Houston tragedy or the Michael Jackson saga. Just like

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Speaker 16: Michael Jackson, two of pery so called doctors are among

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Speaker 16: people charged now over his drug death. These two medical doctors,

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Speaker 16: we call them, that supplied huge doses of ketamine, which

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Speaker 16: in small amounts can be used for anxiety treatment. Knew

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Speaker 16: that they were putting Matthew Perry's life on the line.

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Speaker 16: This was aided by the actors live in assistant thank you,

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Speaker 16: and by someone known as the Ketamine Queens and Milliganov

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Speaker 16: drug enforcement.

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Speaker 7: Here they supplied Matthew Perry with large amounts of ketamine

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Speaker 7: in exchange for large sums of money, charging Perry two

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Speaker 7: thousand dollars for a vial that cost doctor Chavez approximately

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Speaker 7: twelve dollars.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, lots and lots of money. Those doctors face life

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Speaker 16: in prison if convicted. One of the doctors who was

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Speaker 16: pumping Perry with likely death and using amounts of drugs

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Speaker 16: and a text message just days before the actors succumbed.

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Speaker 17: He wrote, in a text message in September twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 17: quote I wonder how much this moron will pay?

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Speaker 16: How much money could they squeeze from quote this moron?

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Speaker 16: Investigator Martine Strata says they found and all sorts of

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Speaker 16: drugs at one of the defendant's houses. They're indications of

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Speaker 16: this gang also applying some other celebs. When I think

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Speaker 16: of Michael Jackson and how doctor Conrad Murray, remember him

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Speaker 16: supplied the anesthesia to the King of pop to help

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Speaker 16: him sleep apparently or whatever it was. Murray served two

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Speaker 16: years of a four year prison term, asserting that he

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Speaker 16: was trying to get Jackson off the drugs in the anesthesia.

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Speaker 16: Whatever you think of that. This Matthew Perry case exposed

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Speaker 16: as another really dark underside of It's the truth.

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Speaker 2: And then we go to Maryland. Joe seemed pretty well

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Speaker 2: received in the last half hour or so.

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Speaker 16: Like you say, he found the door. But this might

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Speaker 16: have been awkward the first public appearance of the two.

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Speaker 16: They were appearing on a day when Biden has been

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Speaker 16: telling The New York Times that he still harbors some

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Speaker 16: angst towards his very good friend, the former Democratic Speaker

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Speaker 16: Nancy Pelosi, for helping to squeeze him out. Biden says

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Speaker 16: he still thought he could have won reelection, but knew

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Speaker 16: that it would have been an ugly battle with his

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Speaker 16: poles slipping and with much of his party against him.

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Speaker 16: These who appeared at an event mark how the government's

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Speaker 16: Medicare agency has been negotiating for a long while now

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Speaker 16: with pharmaceutical companies to cut prices to patients on ten

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Speaker 16: life saving drugs. They say this would save consumers around

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Speaker 16: ten billion dollars in New Zealand a year in reduced

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Speaker 16: drug costs. So pretty important for animals like heart failure,

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Speaker 16: blood clots, diabetes, arthritis, and many more. Harris stepped up

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Speaker 16: to the microphone.

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Speaker 12: First two years ago as Vice President.

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Speaker 18: I was proud to cast the tie breaking vote that

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Speaker 18: sent the bill that game medicare of the power to

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Speaker 18: negotiate and let it get to the President's desk. And

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Speaker 18: I was proud when our President Joe Biden signed that Villains.

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Speaker 6: Along, folks, I'm an incredible partner.

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Speaker 19: Progress we made.

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Speaker 6: She can make one hell of a president.

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Speaker 16: So cancer, thank you. Joe followed up to Springsteen music

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Speaker 16: and we can expect a lot more or that at

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Speaker 16: the damned convention coming up in Chicago next week.

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Speaker 2: And do you have a good week and we'll see

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Speaker 2: you Monday, mate, Richard Arnold state side by the way,

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Speaker 2: I rid an interesting piece in the New York Times yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the California there's a California bill to regulate AI headline

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Speaker 2: causes alarm in Silicon Valley and it's yet to get

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Speaker 2: to the point end. But this is Gavin nusom all over.

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Speaker 2: Of course I would impose restrictions on artificial intelligence companies, investors, activists.

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Speaker 2: They're all scrambling at the moment trying to work out

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Speaker 2: what the hell's going on. But I couldn't help but thinking,

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Speaker 2: if you've invented something like AI with its implications globally,

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Speaker 2: and you don't think a government's going to get itself involved,

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Speaker 2: you're an idiot. Eleven away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast is with Bailey's Real Estate News

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Speaker 1: Talk said, be good.

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Speaker 2: Point, Mike, how many years does dot Com appeal and

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Speaker 2: that extradition run? Now, well, it's it's twelve, you say,

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Speaker 2: fifteen is twelve? At some point does the court run

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Speaker 2: out of appeal to Yeah, you would think so. And

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Speaker 2: I almost regret doing this this morning because the media

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Speaker 2: is portraying this as it's over. It's not, hope, that's

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Speaker 2: the point. All that's happened is the Justice ministers signed

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Speaker 2: the extradition order. But get that's what happens next he

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Speaker 2: gets to appeal that. And how long does the appealal process?

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Speaker 2: How long is a piece of strength. So we'll get

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Speaker 2: some expert advice on that. Speaking of the law A

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Speaker 2: story so weird I almost can't believe it. So we've

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Speaker 2: got a case in America and this can potentially affect

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Speaker 2: us here. Wrongful death lawsuit. Forty two year old New

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Speaker 2: York doctor family claims he had a fatal allergic reaction

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Speaker 2: after eating at an Irish pub in Disney Springs in October.

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Speaker 2: So this deals with Disney. They're in Florida court. His

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Speaker 2: names Jeffrey Piccolough. He had agreed Argues Disney to settle

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Speaker 2: any lawsuits against Disney out of court through the arbitration

533
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Speaker 2: process when he signed up for a one month trial

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Speaker 2: of Disney Plus.

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Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 2: The terms of use Argue Disney, which were provided with

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Speaker 2: the subscriber agreement include a binding arbitration clause. The first

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Speaker 2: page of the subscriber agreement states in capital letters that

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Speaker 2: any dispute between you and us, except for small claims,

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Speaker 2: is subject to a class action waiver and must be

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Speaker 2: resolved by individual binding arbitration. Picolow agreed to a similar

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Speaker 2: arbitration provision when he created an account on Disney's website NAP. So,

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Speaker 2: if you've signed up to Disney, are you aware that

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Speaker 2: should you go somewhere like Disneyland and choke on something

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Speaker 2: and die. You've already signed a waiver by having the

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Speaker 2: subscription service, his lawyer. Piccolo's lawyer says, perhaps not surprisingly,

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Speaker 2: it's absurd to believe that more than one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty million subscribers to Disney Plus have waived all rights

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Speaker 2: to sue the company and its affiliates and perpetuity. The

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Speaker 2: notion that terms agreed to by a consumer when creating

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Speaker 2: a Disney Plus free trial account would forever bar that

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Speaker 2: consumer's right to a jury trial in any dispute with

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Speaker 2: any Disney affiliate or subsidiary is so outrageously unreasonable and

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Speaker 2: unfair as to shock the judicial conscience, and this Court

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Speaker 2: should not enforce such an agreement. On the surface, you

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Speaker 2: can not help but agree.

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Speaker 3: But are you not automatically when you sign up for something,

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Speaker 3: do you not sort of think I've got a nut allergy.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I well, maybe I.

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Speaker 2: Just might come back and by instead five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: And the outs. It's the fizz with business fiber take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Back in the UK and their economy, so they grew

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Speaker 2: zero point six percent in the second quarter. That's the

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Speaker 2: second best growth in the G seven, so they followed

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Speaker 2: zero point seven and Q one, So zero point seven

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Speaker 2: and zero point six. That looks pretty good, led by

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Speaker 2: the services sector. Particularly it June, and this is the

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Speaker 2: interesting part. June was actually flat, so all that growth

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Speaker 2: came in just a couple of months in the quarter.

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Speaker 2: The June numbers blamed on a couple of things, the

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Speaker 2: election and the strikes, so businesses basically delayed their purchases

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Speaker 2: until after the election. NHS also revealed it almost sixty

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Speaker 2: two thousand appointments were canceled because of strike action by

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Speaker 2: the junior doctors. Second half of twenty four isn't looking

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Speaker 2: as rosy. Economists say the growth is expected to slow.

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Speaker 2: Taylor's doing their best, But it's a weird thing. Is

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Speaker 2: it just me that they've made I suppose it's the

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Speaker 2: modern media and I know what happened the other day

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Speaker 2: is serious and they canceled three concerts because of it.

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Speaker 2: But just because you cancel three concerts one do you

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Speaker 2: suddenly second guess yourself for the rest of your life

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Speaker 2: the moment she turns up in London, For goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: you don't think London's faced its fair share of terror

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Speaker 2: attacks and problems and threats and red flags over the years.

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Speaker 2: And therefore, if you second guess yourself on every single

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Speaker 2: act that ever came to Hyde Park, somehow, no one's

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Speaker 2: ever going to a concert again. Anyway. She's performing, not

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Speaker 2: literally now, because it's only eight o'clock. When does she

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Speaker 2: come on nine? She Actually she'd be early, wouldn't she

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Speaker 2: because of the teenies, the tweenies and all the young ones.

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Speaker 2: But she's to where is she Wembley? I think it's Wembley,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Anyway, after a seven o'clock we'll get into

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Speaker 2: this Kim dot com thing. Kim rang me once and

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget the phone call. And he said, and

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Speaker 2: this was years ago? When was it, Glynn? Would it

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Speaker 2: be ten years ago?

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Speaker 5: Very early on in your yeah stint as the breakfast?

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Speaker 2: Well, i've been here sixteen years. I think it's somewhere

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Speaker 2: between ten and sixteen. But he rang me as I was.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I drove into the garage door because

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Speaker 2: I was backing and the phone was ringing. I was

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Speaker 2: coming home from seven sharp.

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Speaker 20: There you go.

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Speaker 2: So it's fourteen to seventeen, twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: It's coming home from seven sharp and the phone rings

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Speaker 2: on the car and I go hello. He goes Mike, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I said what, He goes the Mike at Kim dot com.

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Speaker 2: Kim dot Com. I said, hello, Kim, how the hell

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Speaker 2: do you get my number? Anyway, he goes Mike, why

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Speaker 2: are your sucher hater? Why are you a hater? Mike?

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Speaker 2: They are wanting to send me to America and put

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Speaker 2: me in an orange suit. I don't want an orange

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Speaker 2: thought in America, Mike, why are you a hater?

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Speaker 5: At which point I got orange is not flattering.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not flattering. And so at this point, I'm

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Speaker 2: at the top of my drive and I'm backing into

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Speaker 2: the garage and I've got Kim dot Com yelling at

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Speaker 2: me on the phone. So I wonder I'm backed into

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Speaker 2: the garage door. You see everything in context. Anyway, more

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Speaker 2: on this after the.

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Speaker 1: News, setting the news agenda and dig into the issues.

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Speaker 1: Is the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate. Your

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Speaker 1: local experts across residential, commercial, and rural news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven to the Kim dot Com saga finally

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Speaker 2: coming to a close or is it twelve years and

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Speaker 2: lord knows how many millions and lawyers fees and appeals

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Speaker 2: and headlines. Anyway, the Justice Minister signed this extradition paper.

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Speaker 2: So what happens now? Barrister Clive elliots with there's Clive

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Speaker 2: warning to you. Yes, monie, have you followed nice and

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Speaker 2: closely like I have?

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Speaker 21: I've kept an eye on it, but it's been a

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Speaker 21: moving feast, so yes, I think I know what's happening.

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Speaker 2: So as far as the Minister's concerned, there will be

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Speaker 2: a review or an appeal of something. Do we know

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Speaker 2: how that works, how long it takes and how long

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Speaker 2: this is going to drag.

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Speaker 21: Out for well, I think a bit a bit shorter

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Speaker 21: than the previous appeals. What will happen is that now

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Speaker 21: that the Minister has signed the extradition order, I suspect

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Speaker 21: that Kim dot Com will seek a review of that decision.

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Speaker 21: I don't think you can appeal that because it's not

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Speaker 21: a court decision. It's a minute to ministerial decision. So

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Speaker 21: it'll be a question of whether it was properly executed.

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Speaker 2: Is that part of the argument as to why he

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Speaker 2: will have taken The minister taken so long to sort

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Speaker 2: of tie it up in a nice bow so that

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Speaker 2: when it is inevitably reviewed, it's locked up.

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Speaker 21: That's right. And I think the Minister made a statement

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Speaker 21: to say that he'd carefully considered the matter, which is

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Speaker 21: going to be the question is whether he had done so.

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Speaker 2: And when you say carefully considered the matter, what's to consider?

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Speaker 2: The Americans want him? You got to kind of hand

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Speaker 2: him over, don't you.

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Speaker 21: Well, basically, I mean he's been through ten years of

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Speaker 21: appeals and the court has looked at all sorts of angles,

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Speaker 21: and I think the Minister is entitled to say, well,

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Speaker 21: he's had his day in court, and we're obliged to

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Speaker 21: hand him over under our treaty with the US.

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Speaker 2: Exactly when you say he's had his day in court,

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Speaker 2: he's had his weeks, months and years in court. Is

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Speaker 2: there something profoundly wrong with the judicial process that if

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Speaker 2: you have enough money and enough lawyers, you can pretty

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Speaker 2: much put off a day of reckoning for as long

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Speaker 2: as you want.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think that's a that's a valid question. Yes,

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Speaker 21: I think that's a very valid question. Then, But but

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Speaker 21: he is entitled to exercise all of his appeal rights,

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Speaker 21: which he's done, and I think now the basically that

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Speaker 21: the Minister has to make a decision and he's done.

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Speaker 2: So what I find interesting about it, apart from the

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Speaker 2: fact that's taken so long, is what I mean, you

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Speaker 2: can't answer this, but why is the why are the

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Speaker 2: Americans so gripped by this? They cut a deal with

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Speaker 2: a Sange? Why wouldn't they cut a deal with him?

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, do they need him that badly?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 21: I think the I think the view that the Justice

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Speaker 21: Department has taken is that this was this was copyright

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Speaker 21: infringement on you know, on an industrial scale, and it

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Speaker 21: was huge according to their estimates exactly.

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Speaker 2: And my humble opinion, correct me if I'm wrong. Clive.

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Speaker 2: What he always claimed was, look, I've got this vehicle

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Speaker 2: here called mega upload, and what you do on it's

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Speaker 2: got nothing to do with me, so therefore you can't

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Speaker 2: ping me. That was the stupid still all arguments, wasn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, that was his argument because he said, look,

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Speaker 21: I don't know what you're doing on that facility. Look

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Speaker 21: a nudge in a wink. I know you, I know

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Speaker 21: you infringing copyright, but that's your problem, not mine. And

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Speaker 21: I think the problem was that that mega upload was

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Speaker 21: notified by the film studios that there was infringing content

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Speaker 21: on there, so they couldn't use the innocence defence any longer.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It's been an interesting story. The sad thing I

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Speaker 2: appreciated Clyke Clive Elliott case. The sad thing is this

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Speaker 2: is only a thing because he chose New Zealand. If

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Speaker 2: he didn't land in New Zealand, he was in Hong Kong. Remember,

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Speaker 2: he could have landed anywhere. If he didn't land in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, we never would have heard of him. The

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Speaker 2: judicial process never would have been bogged down with them,

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Speaker 2: The government never would have been involved with them at all.

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Speaker 2: Eleven past seven task. But speaking of politics, PMS and Canberra,

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Speaker 2: of course, two day blitz of Australia. Yesterday it was

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Speaker 2: infrastructure in New South Wales. Today it's probably the five

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Speaker 2: O one Political editor Jason Walls up early morning, mate, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Make I'm bored witness by this five O ones.

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Speaker 2: I mean going going to camberd again. Elbow, elbow, elbow.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's been hoisted by his own petard. They

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Speaker 2: had the tremendous issue of all the people getting let

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Speaker 2: out of jail. He's back down. That's the end of it.

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Speaker 2: You can ask till you're blue in the face, nothing's changing.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 17: I think that's absolutely fair. And to be honest, a

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Speaker 17: lot of us know that there's not going to be

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Speaker 17: a lot that will probably change coming out of today's

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Speaker 17: meaning between Luxeon and Anthony ALBANIZI, but Chris Luxon needs

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Speaker 17: to appear like.

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Speaker 2: He's doing something.

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Speaker 17: This is a hot topic for both New Zealand and

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Speaker 17: Australia for different reasons.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the key is we're not.

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Speaker 17: Pleased with this policy that Australia have, but Australia think

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Speaker 17: that it's absolutely fine. And when it comes down to it,

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Speaker 17: Alba is always going to bow to his domestic pressure

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Speaker 17: rather than from pressure from little old New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The lower institute speech are much more interested

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Speaker 2: in how bullish, if that's the right word, was Luxeon

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Speaker 2: last night on China the problems in the Indo Pacific

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Speaker 2: and how worried is he and is this sort of

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Speaker 2: worth thinking about?

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Speaker 17: I think that's probably the highlight of the trip, if

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Speaker 17: I'm honest. I mean it's his first major foreign policy speech,

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Speaker 17: so there were high expectations, and there was a view

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Speaker 17: that it might be a complete flop and a clete fizzer.

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Speaker 17: But Luxon actually did quite a good job about carving

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Speaker 17: out what he thought his position of New Zealand was

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Speaker 17: in the world, and talking about a number of other

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Speaker 17: issues as well. When it came to things in the Pacific,

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Speaker 17: he was quite as you say, quite bullish about that

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Speaker 17: and outlining a number of concerns for the region and

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Speaker 17: the tensional issues, and of course when it came to

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Speaker 17: China as well, he used some pretty interesting language. He said,

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Speaker 17: the difference in values and systems of government mean that

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Speaker 17: there are issues on which we cannot and will not

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Speaker 17: agree in it as far I think, as he's actually

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Speaker 17: gone publicly and saying that about that relationship with China,

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Speaker 17: the things that we cannot and will not agree on.

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Speaker 2: Is there's some reported to The Morning's this morning suggesting

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Speaker 2: he use the Ukraine example and that could happen in

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Speaker 2: our backyard. Was it that specifical or not?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's what his It was in the Q and

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Speaker 17: a session of the speech at the Loewis Institute, where

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Speaker 17: that's essentially what he said. He had said something similar

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Speaker 17: when he was in NATO on the last month as well,

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Speaker 17: essentially saying that this flash point that we've seen in

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Speaker 17: Ukraine can basically happen anywhere, including our region in the Pacific.

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Speaker 17: So it was one of those things that you can

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Speaker 17: read into it quite strongly and say, well, hang on

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Speaker 17: a second, what is it that you're actually saying here,

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Speaker 17: And we pushed them on it in the press conference afterwards,

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Speaker 17: and he slightly backed down a little bit, moved away

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Speaker 17: from saying that it was anything is as cold or

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Speaker 17: as intricate as what is happening in the Europe at

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Speaker 17: the moment, but it was very clear that he is,

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Speaker 17: you know, he's worried about some tensions in the Pacific.

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Speaker 2: As he should be. Jason go, well, today, I appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Jason Wiltow run political leader across the Tessman. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's across the Tessmen, but he's our political leader on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the Tessman. That's how good he is.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes past seven, posking, Well, then we got there

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Speaker 2: are food prices up a smage not bad. I think

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Speaker 2: we finally got them under control. And what drove it

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Speaker 2: restaurant meals ready to eat, So if you don't want

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Speaker 2: to pay more, you don't have to go out, and

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Speaker 2: don't hate me, Hospo industry. I'm just giving you the

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Speaker 2: basic fats. But what have we got? Fruit and vegies down,

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Speaker 2: meat and poultry and fish down, Kumera cheapest chips, lettuce,

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Speaker 2: cheapest lettuce, potatoes down. Monthly basis, food prices were monthly

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Speaker 2: zero point four up, but on the quarter down a bit.

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Speaker 2: So I think finally things have settled down, which is good.

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Speaker 5: Fourteen anything on the ridicuo there.

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Speaker 2: starts as Weekendon Eden Park. Of course we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that in the Argentinian game before eight o'clock seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of sport, Worders, Lib Golf is headed our way.

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Speaker 2: Officials have visited the christ Yurch Golf Club, so it's

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Speaker 2: possible that d chambeau and kept here and Rahm and Co.

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Speaker 2: Are going to be in the country next year, which

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Speaker 2: could be exciting golf. New Zealand boss Jeff Latch is

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Speaker 2: with us on this Jeff Morning, Good morning Mine. Now

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Speaker 2: you know old Koy with me and go I don't

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Speaker 2: know anything about her. Are you going to spill the

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Speaker 2: beans and tell us what's really going on?

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Speaker 14: I'll tell you what I know.

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Speaker 22: Live Events in Adelaide, which has normally been in April,

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Speaker 22: has been a huge success. It's really taken off and

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Speaker 22: it's been massive. They argue that's probably their best event

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Speaker 22: around the world. They're looking to move that event, we

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Speaker 22: understand from April to February next year, and so if

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Speaker 22: they're down here doing that event, there's potential for them

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Speaker 22: to be events in New Zealand as well, adjacent to

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Speaker 22: the Australian event. If there was interest in New Zealand

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Speaker 22: to hold.

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Speaker 2: It, fantastic Why did christ Church and christ Church Club

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Speaker 2: specifically come up?

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Speaker 12: Do you know?

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Speaker 22: No, I don't know why. It may be because I

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Speaker 22: think a number of people have approached Live to see

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Speaker 22: whether or not they would host events in New Zealand,

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Speaker 22: and I think they have said, yeah, look we're up

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Speaker 22: for that. But they're not cheap. Yeah, they cost millions

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Speaker 22: of dollars of you is if you actually want.

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Speaker 13: To host an event.

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Speaker 2: But they bring in millions of dollars, they.

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Speaker 22: Do, they do, and they bring in huge interest and

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Speaker 22: profile for the sport of golf, and critically, they bring

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Speaker 22: in a lot of young people. So if you look

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Speaker 22: at the group of people that actually went along and

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Speaker 22: watched the golf in Adelaide, it was a really interesting mix.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you would you would be involved Golf New

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Speaker 2: Zealand would be involved if they were coming or not necessarily,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily but probably right, So are you expecting to

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Speaker 2: be involved, Jef? You guys, have you cleared your diary?

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Speaker 22: I tell you what I loved to playing with are

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Speaker 22: their events?

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Speaker 2: They look fad Well there you go. So well as

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Speaker 2: you said here on a Friday morning, the chances of

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Speaker 2: this happening are reasonably good. Is that fair to say

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 22: I think they're reasonably slim. It would be fantastic, I

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Speaker 22: think though, if we did have your whole other world's

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Speaker 22: best players play in New Zealand, just imagine it. I mean,

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Speaker 22: it would just be gold, right. But I think it's

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Speaker 22: a lot of money to actually get the get them out.

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Speaker 2: So the design might be there, the money might not

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Speaker 2: be correct.

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Speaker 22: And the context for this though, is that golf is

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Speaker 22: going off right in New Zealand. The last four years

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Speaker 22: the number of people in golf club members has actually

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Speaker 22: grown by thirty four percent. It started and COVID kept

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Speaker 22: on going and it's still going now. Like our growth

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Speaker 22: last month was about five point eight percent and eighteen

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Speaker 22: percent growth for young people playing golf. Lots of young

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Speaker 22: people are pouring into the game. So yeah, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 22: At the moment, golf's just going off and it looks

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Speaker 22: like it's going to continue to great good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope we can stitch it together. Jeff preciate it, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: let's Golf New Zealand CEO, come back and make the

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Speaker 2: week in the moment.

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Speaker 2: which is good. And they've been fitting out Qwi Kitchen

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Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy two, which is also good, so they

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Speaker 2: know what they're doing. They describe Imperio as a surface

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Speaker 2: for life, ultra durable bench top designed to stand up

871
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Speaker 2: to a lifetime abuse and Imperio looks the part as

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Speaker 2: well because available in a range of designs, provides a

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Speaker 2: natural quality finish, makes for a stylish seen to piece

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Speaker 2: in any home. You'll love it and best of all,

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Speaker 2: it's all highly affordable and that'll fit your budget. So

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Speaker 2: see for yourself. Here's where you go. You've got it, Imperio,

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Speaker 2: im Peero, Imperio dot n Z now asking seven twenty

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Speaker 2: four Time now to mark the week, little piece of

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Speaker 2: news and current ventrance as popular as a Superman outfit

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Speaker 2: at Willworth. Rob Scott eight who Rob's a district mayor.

881
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: Rob's my hero of the week because Rob has seen

882
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: what we see and says we've got too many councils

883
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: in this country and his idea is he takes the

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Speaker 2: four in his area, makes them two go Rob Adrian three.

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00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 14: I apologize that there were no pictures for some of

886
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Speaker 14: these people.

887
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Adrian is not my hero of the week. He did

888
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: what he should have done, of course, but the way

889
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: he did it yet again, reminds us that the COVID

890
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: experiment and the economic carnage that went with it is

891
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: the result of people who could have done a vastly

892
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: better job going four. Company cock up of the week.

893
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Speaker 2: Not only can't they make claims properly, the spaceship they

894
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: sent the two astronauts up to the iss On is

895
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: still broken, so they got told this week they're there

896
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: till next year. Speaking of space Elon four, we your

897
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: reputations already hurting the value of your car company. Interviewing

898
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Speaker 2: a mate on your other company platform only for that

899
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Speaker 2: not to work either is not a good look. Karmela seven,

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Speaker 2: Are you ready to get to work with a week

901
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: of evidence to this point at least that the switch

902
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: out has worked? People are engaged, the polls have closed,

903
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: and the momentum is hers new WASS supercomputer six. Well,

904
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: from next week they'll be able to forecast Christmas afternoon

905
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Speaker 2: for you down to the half second, apparently or not.

906
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: Meth an x seven smooth move of the week. Close

907
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Speaker 2: your factory, sell your gas to desperate power companies for

908
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: more than you sell it for offshore, with not even

909
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: a hint of embarrassment. Crime too forty one thousand up

910
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: to fifty thousand retail incidents. For all the noise, all

911
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: the promises, all the headlines, I'm pretty sure the stats

912
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: show it's going the wrong way. Are the Crime committee

913
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: set up to reverse the retail crime stats going the wrongs?

914
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 12: Two?

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Speaker 2: Despite the promise the first ideas were just weeks away,

916
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Speaker 2: weeks later, they haven't even met Ukraine eight. What they've

917
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: achieved this past week or so might might have turned

918
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Speaker 2: the war. Are the all Black six They'll win well,

919
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Speaker 2: because that's what they do, and more than twenty five

920
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Speaker 2: thousand will watch it, I hope, Although I've got a

921
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Speaker 2: story on that, and that is the weak copies on

922
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Speaker 2: the website, and if you take two hundred and thirty

923
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Speaker 2: five of these by the way and compress them tightly.

924
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Speaker 2: With the Baylor you have a markweek fire starter and

925
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Speaker 2: an easy way to save power and big electricity bills.

926
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Speaker 2: OSK Mike, what is Libgolf going to charge christ to

927
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Speaker 2: to the host well millions? And why? Because that's what

928
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Speaker 2: sport does. You package up a sporting event that's of

929
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Speaker 2: interest to people, people bid. The Olympic Game's been doing

930
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: it for years, although they've run out of cities now.

931
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: Read an interesting article the other day that said, there

932
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: aren't many cities left and this is the climate change debate.

933
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: There aren't many cities left in the world that are

934
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: big enough to host a games while at the same time,

935
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Speaker 2: in the middle of summer not be above below thirty

936
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Speaker 2: degrees anyway, be that is it? Maybe that's how sportsweek give.

937
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Speaker 2: You charge people for the venue, you charge them for

938
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Speaker 2: the television, right, all of that sort of stuff. Mike

939
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Speaker 2: Kim dot Com to John Key, Why are you threating?

940
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: Prime Minister JK to Kim, I'm not. Why are you

941
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: turning red? You remember that political debate one of the

942
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Speaker 2: great lines of modern politics. Now phoenixing first time. I'm

943
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: pretty sure this year I've used that word. But phoenixing

944
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: is when you see your company go bust and then

945
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Speaker 2: three days later the bloke who was running that company

946
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: suddenly phoenixes and starts a whole new company. And you go, well,

947
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: hold on, I'm still load money from that old company.

948
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Speaker 2: How come this guy gets to start a new one. Well,

949
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Speaker 2: they're going to do something about that. More shortly.

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Speaker 1: You're trusted Home for News for Entertainment's Opinion and Mike

951
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: the Mike asking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement Communities, Life

952
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Speaker 1: your Way, News togsend.

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Speaker 2: B Mike, how come Australia can drop their rubbish five

954
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Speaker 2: ozho ones on us who have basically lived their whole

955
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: life in Australia and we can't kick o mega frauds

956
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: are out of the country. It's actually quite a good question, Paul.

957
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: The answer is because Kim dot Com has legal rights,

958
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: and his legal rights are to be able to hire

959
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: as many lawyers as he can afford, to go to

960
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: court as many times as he possibly can, and to

961
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Speaker 2: appeal everything going, which is what he's done. The New

962
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Speaker 2: Zealand er and Australia has remained in New Zealander at

963
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Speaker 2: all times. It doesn't matter that they've lived most of

964
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Speaker 2: their life there, they never change their citizenship and never

965
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: became an Australian, and so therefore, because they're not Australian,

966
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Speaker 2: they don't have the same legal rights rights as an

967
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Speaker 2: Australian does. Because they're a New Zealander and they're they're

968
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Speaker 2: at the behest of the Australian Government who have decided,

969
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Speaker 2: rightly or wrongly, that if you are a New Zealander

970
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Speaker 2: and you don't live up to our standards, we will

971
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Speaker 2: kick you out. Now, we don't like it, but it's

972
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: their right to do it, as simple as that. Twenty

973
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Speaker 2: two to eight sim and Katie Friday morning doing the

974
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Speaker 2: work after eight o'clock mean time. More reform of business

975
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Speaker 2: is coming our away. The company's actor is said to

976
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: get its FIRS proper update in some thirty years and

977
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: phoenixing is going to be addressed. That's when one company

978
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Speaker 2: is liquidated and another one begins without all the debt

979
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Speaker 2: being paid off. Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bailey

980
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Speaker 2: is with us on this Andrew Morning to you our

981
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: good morning mate. The companies act as far as these

982
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: things without being too dry about this, as far as

983
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: these things go, how complex is it? And how bigger

984
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: upheaval is this?

985
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 23: Well, look, are there's elements that we're simply out of date.

986
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Speaker 23: There's about three pages of amendments we're going to make.

987
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Speaker 23: But essentially, what we're doing is modernizing elements of it

988
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Speaker 23: to make it easier for companies to operate. We're simplifying

989
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 23: it and we're digitizing it. So for instance, why do

990
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 23: you have to send out your end report by post?

991
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 23: Why can't you just put on a website and tell

992
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 23: people where that that is. So that's the first big

993
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 23: chunk of the reforms. The second bit is about this

994
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 23: phoenixing which you've me in talking about. But that what

995
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 23: we want to do is make sure that directors can

996
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 23: protect themselves if they think they've got security issues. So

997
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 23: they don't have to record their private address, but they

998
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 23: do have to have an address where they can be

999
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 23: served to notice or you can fine them. But relate

1000
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 23: to that, we're going to give every director an ID

1001
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 23: a number because it's often very difficult to track what

1002
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Speaker 23: directors are doing and what companies are associated with, and

1003
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Speaker 23: so by giving that, we're giving them a number, we

1004
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 23: can do that. You look, for instance, if you look

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00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 23: at John Smith and the office. There's twenty seven pages

1006
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 23: of John Smith as directors. And then the third element

1007
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 23: of the package is that we're going to do a

1008
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 23: fundamental review of the duty and liabilities of directors and

1009
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Speaker 23: doing that with Paul Goldsmith as a Minister of Justice.

1010
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 23: But we're going to start that next year because unfortunately,

1011
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 23: over the last many years, increasingly directors duties and liabilities

1012
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 23: have been ill defined or less clear than that ought

1013
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 23: to and that's what we can do.

1014
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: Let me come back to that in mind, because that's

1015
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: the most interesting part though. The phoenixing thing with the number.

1016
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: The number seems the most obvious thing in the world.

1017
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Why hasn't somebody done it before? Oh?

1018
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 23: Look, I can't understand it.

1019
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can't explain because it's also numerous problems, doesn't Yeah.

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00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's a smart way. And also we're going to

1022
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 23: actually pick up some insolvency law changes that would recommend

1023
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 23: back in twenty fourteen the previous government National Government did,

1024
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 23: so we're also going to do put that in there.

1025
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 23: And the issue with it is it's I still about

1026
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 23: the John Smith's example before. It's very easy for directors

1027
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 23: say I'm John Smith. And then next a time they

1028
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 23: put their record their details.

1029
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 10: It might be John R.

1030
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Speaker 23: Smith, or it might be John Roberts Smith, or it

1031
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 23: might be Jonathan Smith. And therefore that's the easiest way

1032
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 23: of stopping this. And you know what's the bit I'm

1033
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 23: really worried about, the phoenix thing of the of companies

1034
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 23: is that the whole issue is when you have small debts.

1035
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 23: Let's say you're doing a bathroom extension. I don't I'm

1036
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 23: not getting at the building industry particularly, but let's say

1037
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 23: you are doing a bathroom extension. You give a builders

1038
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 23: some money and then they don't complete the job and

1039
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Speaker 23: they move on, set up a new company the next

1040
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 23: day and just put twenty twenty four on it. Many

1041
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 23: of those claims and never picked up. No one ever

1042
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 23: knows about them because people don't have the money to

1043
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 23: chase them. So this is so part of the package,

1044
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 23: not just the number, but I've also been talking to

1045
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 23: insultancy practitioners to make sure that they've got the ability

1046
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 23: to record those types of activities and then we can

1047
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 23: track them over time, because ultimately we want to get

1048
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 23: rid of those poor performing you know, directors and managers

1049
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 23: who don't do a good job and do it quite deliberately.

1050
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: So no exactly. I know you weren't picking on the

1051
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: building industry, but it does actually happen quite a bit

1052
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: in the building industry, and there are plenty of stories

1053
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: of it. As far as the duties of directors are concerned,

1054
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: what are you looking to do? Because how many directors

1055
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: in this country sit on boards or take a board

1056
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: job and then get pinged for something they didn't have

1057
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: any idea they were potentially going to get pinged for.

1058
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 23: Yeah, well, there's multiple dimensions to this. The biggest issue.

1059
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 23: I think the fundamental issue is would you like to

1060
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 23: be a director now? And to be honest, a director

1061
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 23: and I probably wouldn't like to, right, And this paid

1062
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 23: me a lot of money, and that's wrong. What we

1063
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 23: want is people to be able to think that they

1064
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 23: quite happy to be a director. Obviously, we don't want

1065
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 23: to cut away from the obligation that you can't act

1066
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 23: recklessly or nectiately all that sort of stuff, right that

1067
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 23: we're not cutting away that. But the issue now we've

1068
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 23: got is that some court cases have come down with

1069
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 23: Mainsie was one, but the other big area. Government has

1070
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 23: been very good at piercing the corporate veil using a

1071
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 23: technical term where directors are now personally liable for things.

1072
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 23: So I'll give you an example climate related disclosures. We've

1073
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 23: got a brand new regime in New Zealand. No one

1074
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 23: knows only it's world famous in New Zealand. But directors

1075
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 23: are personally liable for the reports. Even though it's just

1076
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 23: coming into play now for a lot of lists of

1077
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 23: company people. That's kind of an obligations, a personal liability

1078
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 23: if they get the report wrong. We've got other liabilities

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Speaker 23: that have been put through into a piece of legislation

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Speaker 23: that now make directors personally liable now. Ultimately, the whole

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Speaker 23: thing about company's law, which set up in sixteen seven century,

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Speaker 23: was about allowing people to take reasonable risks with but

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Speaker 23: not extreme risks, And what we've done now is made

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Speaker 23: it very blurred. And ultimately, you know, experienced directors should

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Speaker 23: and we should be encouraging them to be helping startups

1086
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 23: taking risks at that point. Many people wouldn't want to

1087
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Speaker 23: do it now because of this, and that's so we'stic.

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Speaker 23: We want to grow the economy and have the money

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Speaker 23: to build schools and hospitals and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 12: We need.

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Speaker 23: Successful economy and we need to support our business and

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Speaker 23: our company's be able to do that and right now

1093
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Speaker 23: it's a bit of a barrier.

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Speaker 2: Very well said, Andrew. Have a good weekend. Appreciate your

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Speaker 2: times always, Andrew Bailey, Commas and Consumer Affairs Minister. I

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Speaker 2: think I'm not being unfair and suggesting that might be

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Speaker 2: another bloke who's across as brief as well. Sixteen two

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Speaker 2: cool the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: That'd be Mike. If we're having any criminals in jail

1102
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: that are Australians, we should dump them on their doorstep. Well,

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Speaker 2: we do have one fairly high profile one, but we

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Speaker 2: choose not to, which is one of the weird bits

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Speaker 2: about it. So we can, but we don't. Let me ask.

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Speaker 2: Get a quick question about the disability announcement that was

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Speaker 2: made yesterday. A Ministry of Disabilities is going to be

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Speaker 2: folded into MSD. Right, First of all, the number that

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Speaker 2: there are one million disabled people in this country blew

1110
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Speaker 2: my mind. There's only five million of us, so one

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Speaker 2: in five twenty percent allegedly are disabled. What the hell happened?

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Speaker 10: Two?

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Speaker 2: Did you or did you not feel exceedingly sorry. If

1114
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Speaker 2: you saw the press conference with Louise Upston and the

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Speaker 2: woman who is leading currently but presumably not for much longer,

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Speaker 2: the ministry that is being folded into the other ministry,

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Speaker 2: she looked sick and I felt bad for her, not

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Speaker 2: that it's her fault. Now that's life. You take the job,

1119
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Speaker 2: you take the consequences. And three, here's my real question

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Speaker 2: out of this. Do you care that a ministry is

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00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: being folded into a ministry? Because the media went nuts

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Speaker 2: on this yesterday and I cannot, for the life of

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Speaker 2: me understand why. Because within the disability community there seem

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Speaker 2: to be tremendous upset. And that's the part I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: If you are in the receipt of some form of

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Speaker 2: state assistance, whether it's superannuation or an unemployment benefit or

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Speaker 2: a disability assistance or what they built you a ramp

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Speaker 2: or a special handle or something like that, what does

1129
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Speaker 2: it matter what the ministry is that did it. So

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Speaker 2: one day it's Fai Karha, the next day it's MSD.

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00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: Who cares? When did you start worrying about what department?

1132
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't about the money, It wasn't about the budget.

1133
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Speaker 2: There's no question that services being slash left right and

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Speaker 2: sent that that would be I get that, But it

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Speaker 2: was about this one ministry that was being for efficiency's sake,

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Speaker 2: because the report came back and said essentially they were

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Speaker 2: useless and they didn't do anything properly.

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Speaker 5: They didn't even pay it, blew the budget the five

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Speaker 5: minutes of getting it.

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Speaker 2: It didn't even do their job properly. So they're useless.

1141
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Speaker 2: We need to close them down and do it better.

1142
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: So it's not about the it's not about the money,

1143
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: and you're not going to get your support. It's just

1144
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: the support will come from a different ministry. Why on

1145
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: earth would you have time to be exercised about something

1146
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Speaker 2: like that If I've missed something and I don't understand

1147
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Speaker 2: the disability sector and I probably should have, given it's

1148
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Speaker 2: obviously so large, let me know, turn away from.

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Speaker 1: It for the mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement

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Speaker 1: Communities News togs.

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Speaker 2: Had been a seven away from it to another crack

1152
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Speaker 2: for the All Blacks Tomorrow night. Of course, pressure on

1153
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Speaker 2: given last week and the Robertson Egras first loss. First

1154
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: time we played the Argentinians in Auckland since twenty eleven

1155
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: World Cup quarter final. I got the old Eden Park

1156
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: Fortress record there to consider. I suppose as well. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Ethan Blackhead as part of it, and he's with us, Ethan.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you, morning Mike.

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Speaker 14: How are you mate?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Indeed, thank you. How's the week gone for you?

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Speaker 14: That's been good? Yeah, really good so far. We yeah,

1162
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 14: just had a good honest review on Monday and yeah,

1163
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 14: picked up up and yeah we're just cracked on. Got

1164
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Speaker 14: a bit of excitement around a Saturday when.

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Speaker 2: You guys lose and I worry about this. Everyone picks

1166
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: on the All Blacks? Is it not for into at

1167
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Speaker 2: least for a while. Anyway, give the Argentinian some credit.

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Speaker 2: They seem to have stepped up. They seem like a

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Speaker 2: better side than they once were. Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah they are.

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Speaker 14: They're quality side. And but you don't remember they made

1173
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Speaker 14: the semi final of the Rugby World Cup last year,

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Speaker 14: so yeah, they have no quality football side. So yeah,

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Speaker 14: but to both like, yeah, we take a loss pretty hard.

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Speaker 2: Are you feeling the pressure? Because the general consensus around

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Speaker 2: the place is that what happens when the All Blacks

1178
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Speaker 2: lose is then when you get to the second test,

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Speaker 2: you'll kill them.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, that be false identity, I think, but no, like, yeah,

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Speaker 14: we yeah, we don't perform the way we want to

1182
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 14: do on the weekends or last weekend that is. But yeah,

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Speaker 14: we've put all that aside. Now we're actually really excited

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Speaker 14: for Saturday because it's an opportunity to turn it around.

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Speaker 2: Good talk to me about Razor. Given you've got experience

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Speaker 2: with them pro the All Blacks, what do you think

1187
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: he's brought to the All Blacks? And what do you

1188
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: think the differences he's making.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, he's been really good so far. He just brings

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Speaker 14: a fresh sort of a lot of fresh ideas. He's

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Speaker 14: a very energetic man. And yeah, the boys just the

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Speaker 14: boys enjoyed playing for him. And yeah, it's been really good.

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Speaker 2: Good. Depending on whether you believe the forecast, it could

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Speaker 2: be a bit wet. Does that bother you?

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Speaker 14: Yeah? I had a look at the forecast last night

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Speaker 14: and looks to the heavy rain at that time of

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Speaker 14: the night. So we we've sort of talked about it

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Speaker 14: already and prepare for it dry or wet. So we've

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Speaker 14: got plans in place.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Have you ever heard of James Kerr's book

1201
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Speaker 2: that looks at the lessons of leadership for the All Blacks.

1202
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of that or not?

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Speaker 14: I have heard of the bock Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I'm read this fascinating story. Ivan Cleary you know, sorry,

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Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary, you know Nathan? Yes, yeah, he wins the

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00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: other night, he leads the comeback for his side. Everyone

1207
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: on the team is on the bus except for Nathan,

1208
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Speaker 2: who's in the locker room cleaning the locker room out.

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00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: And he gets that from the book, sweeping the sheds

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Speaker 2: doing it properly so no one else has to because

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Speaker 2: no one looks after the All Blacks. The All Blacks

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Speaker 2: look after themselves. I'd never heard that before, so that's

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Speaker 2: my ignorance. But that's brilliant. Do you guys subscribe to that?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. There's always always boys and the

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Speaker 14: sheds after the game doing exactly that. And yeah, that

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Speaker 14: quote sort of speaks for uself.

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Speaker 2: All right, go well this weekend, mate, and best of

1218
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: your dad and all that sort of stuff. Ethan Blackadder

1219
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: flanker All Blacks. Am I like ignorant that I haven't

1220
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: heard from that. Has everyone heard that or not? The book?

1221
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know, but sweeping the shed. So Nathan Cleary

1222
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: just to be clear as an explain.

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Speaker 5: It him because now it's ruined Appari the other night.

1224
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: But I don't think he did it in the shed.

1225
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: But he's literally cleaning the shed, strapping tape, drink bottles,

1226
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: other detritus strewn across the floor. The star of the

1227
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: show is cleaning the shed because he has never forgotten

1228
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: sweeping the sheds doing it properly, so no one else

1229
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Speaker 2: has to because no one looks after the all Blacks.

1230
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: The all Blacks look after themselves. Words to live by,

1231
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Speaker 2: and that, Glenn, is why I vacuum the studio every bloody.

1232
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Speaker 5: Morning, talk about detritus exactly.

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Speaker 2: Every morning for the last sixteen years, because no one

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Speaker 2: looks after the hosk. Is that the same or my

1235
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Speaker 2: paraphrasing too much? The news for you?

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Speaker 1: Next, the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk

1237
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: to Mike Costing breakfast with the range Rover bla designed

1238
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: to intrigue and use tonks'd b.

1239
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Speaker 2: Jack White didn't get where he is without a keen

1240
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: sense of fever and self promotion. Where have you heard that?

1241
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Before July nineteen, anyone who made a purchase at one

1242
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: of his third man's store. So he's got these stores

1243
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 2: in Detroit, Nationale and London would find in their bags

1244
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: a mysterious LP in a plain white sleeve and with

1245
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: the white label simply stamped no Name. So the album

1246
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: is called No Name. It's by Jack White. Thirteen tough

1247
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: guitar based songs with an abundance of swagger and a

1248
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: kick that melds the punky minimalism of the white stripes.

1249
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Speaker 2: Does it sound thick sounding? Is it thick sounding?

1250
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Speaker 5: Delivererate?

1251
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 15: Is that what they do?

1252
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: Is that they're doing it now or some month?

1253
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Speaker 1: Thirteen tracks, forty three minutes a week in review with

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Speaker 1: two degrees, bringing smart business solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Good that is in the retail. Tim Wilsons, His life

1256
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: pays the morning to you both, good guys. The first

1257
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: do you know? Two retail questions for you Kde giving

1258
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: you our retail expert. Question number one, did you know

1259
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: that Jack White had shops? I did not know that, Okay,

1260
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: so no use with the follow up question what is

1261
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: he selling them? So that won't get answered too?

1262
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 14: Can we do a pollock?

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Speaker 20: Can we do a follow Did you know who Jack

1264
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Speaker 20: White was?

1265
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 23: Oh?

1266
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: Everyone knows who Jack White was. Don't care.

1267
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Speaker 24: I would say boom, I'd say something shoes, sneakers or baseball.

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Speaker 13: Hats, something like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, send me look it up and tell us what

1270
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Speaker 2: he sells in the shops. Question number two, Kady, was

1271
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Speaker 2: that you were telling me about pringles the other day.

1272
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Were you saying, and I haven't put this on the

1273
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: program in case I got sued, did you say that

1274
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: pringles are not called chips because they're not chips, and

1275
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: they're not chips because they don't have any potatoes in them?

1276
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1277
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Speaker 12: Correct? Right? Correct?

1278
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: And did you also go on to say that they

1279
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: don't have a single natural ingredient in them at all?

1280
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: Or have I made that up?

1281
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 12: Much? Pretty much all chemicals?

1282
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: So that's the thing that doesn't exist. Stop, shut the

1283
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: dog up. That's the thing that doesn't exist until you

1284
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: get in the lab and make it and put it

1285
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: in a tube and call it something and people buy

1286
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: it and they.

1287
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 24: Think what they do originally, I think what they do

1288
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 24: is dry it out, so they would claim it had

1289
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 24: something like dried potato flakes in it, and then they.

1290
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 12: Just add a whole bunch of like horrific.

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Speaker 24: Oils and acids and starches and salts and flavoring.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and the mass family came along and paid eighty

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: ninety one hundred billion dollars for that.

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Speaker 12: Sorry, I'm trying to wrestle the dog.

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Speaker 20: Why why do we talk about what's going now? What's

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Speaker 20: going on with the sink? Have you guys resolved the sink?

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Speaker 20: Do we have to do a marriage counseling session?

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Speaker 2: Very good question, A very good question. Let me let

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01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: me you can to can you want?

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Speaker 14: Well, here's the deal.

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 20: I know that the sinks. The sink's discolored. You might

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01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 20: want a new sink. But isn't the KPI of a

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01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 20: sink to be dirty. They're supposed to be discolored. It's

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 20: a sink. No, it's meeting it.

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01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't know where you get

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: that idea from that you have a sink that's dirty.

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: Why would you have that? So some product derived Katie

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01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: yesterday run with the story from there.

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01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 24: To clean the sink, the first of many sink cleaning

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01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 24: products that I'm trying.

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Speaker 12: Well, you see, here's the problem with the sink. This

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 12: is a really boring story. So I don't know why

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 12: we're talking about it on radio.

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01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 24: But anyway, it's boring at home, far less even more

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 24: boring for your listeners.

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Speaker 12: But we have a sink, some kind of granite or something.

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 24: The surface of it is rough and it's not you know,

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 24: not rough rough, but rough as and it's not like

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01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 24: a smooth, porcelain, shiny, normal sink.

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 12: What did you say, Matt, Yeah, matte.

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 24: It's like a matte finish, and it's just a nightmare

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01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 24: because everything that goes down it just grabs onto and

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 24: then the sink gets you know, it just looks anyway.

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 20: Gets caught in the mat That's exactly.

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01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 12: I don't think it's it's not as bad as food

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01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 12: matter coughding it.

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01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 24: It's more or less like staining anyway onwards.

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: So have you tried anything and does it work?

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01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 24: I haven't tried it yet because people have been making

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 24: breakfast and using.

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01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 12: The kitchen, so it has to be done like you

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01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 12: have to leave it for a period of time. So

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Speaker 12: I have to do it when no one's using the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Tim tease bombers jackets and hoodies and some sneakers,

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: is the answer to the question, Jack, what yet? You

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01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: were right?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 20: But this this would be for middle aged people who

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 20: are still trying to pretend they're young, aren't They wouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: Oh you mean the clothing. I thought you're talking about

1341
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: dooty sinks. I thought, oh, we got to do this sometime.

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01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: We're just middle aged and believe it. No, So, no,

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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: the clothing. It probably it's probably got a bit of

1344
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: that that retro boomer thing about it. Yeah, your fair point.

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01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think so.

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01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: I think that it's carpetal garaged him. That was the

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01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: story of the week. I don't care what anybody says.

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01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Carpet in the garage was the story of the week.

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01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: Your situations, Well, we don't have a garage.

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01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 20: And if it's got carpet in it, so if it's

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 20: got carpet and it's not a garage, sorry, it's a

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 20: storage room, okay, you know. And you know what, here's

1353
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 20: the thing about garages. They are the graveyard of unmade decisions.

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01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 20: So stuff just piles up in garages. People never never

1355
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 20: declutter their garage, so when they go to move, it's

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01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 20: a nightmare.

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01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: It's a very well put line, it is, isn't it.

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: The reason that something's in a garage is because I

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: might need that that's what you said, doesn't it. I

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01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: might need that because in the garage.

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 20: Yeah, we could use that maybe in two to three years.

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01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 20: Or there was one time eighteen months ago that I

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 20: needed that thing. So I'll just keep it here.

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question, because this is a

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: question Kadie and I are asking a lot apart from

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01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: shall we stay married?

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 13: The question stay married?

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: Stay married a question we're asking ourselves.

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 20: I think I think it's flint. It's a flint and

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 20: steel situation with you two. You two, you're sharpening each other.

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Speaker 2: Do we throw this out? And Katie will go no,

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: because one of the kids might need it when they

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: get their first house or move into their next flat

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: or whatever. Is that so it's not reasonable?

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 20: Well, well, what's the thing though?

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01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 13: Sofa?

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: Thing, so desk, a sofa, storage, old kitchen.

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Speaker 12: He would try.

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 20: Facebook market forty bucks. Someone will come and take it

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01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 20: away from.

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01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 14: It for you.

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01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: But what about the kids?

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 20: They should buy their own dang sofa?

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 5: Come on, have you considered taking it down to your

1385
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 5: local theater?

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: What the sink?

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01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 5: Well, no, the sofa because domestic manager.

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01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: Or really, so the local theater needs a sofa.

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Speaker 3: She's directing a play at the moment, and oh she

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Speaker 3: needs a sofa. Well she had the sofa, but do

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01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: you think that she could find any armchairs that would

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: match it.

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01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have.

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 20: A matching, you know, if they're directing, if they're directing

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01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 20: a play. There was something he'd some bloke on the

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01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 20: radio doing a Kim dot Com personation that sounded like

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 20: Kim dot com Pakistani.

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Speaker 12: They should put him in the absolute gold.

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Speaker 24: And I've got to replay it because I feel sad

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Speaker 24: for the people before seven Hoo missed out on here.

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01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: All right, well there are there before seven. He missed out, Katie,

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01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: because unlike you, most people listen from six to nine.

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01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: But what we'll do is we'll play it after the break.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past eight.

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio,

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: Call it by News Talk.

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01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: Hipp News Talks. Seventeen past eight.

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: The Weekend Review with two degrees Fighting for Fear for

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: Kiwi Business.

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: He goes Mike, Mike, I said what, He goes the

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: mic at Kim dot Com Kim dot Com, and I said, hello, Kim,

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: how how the hell do you get my number? Anyway,

1413
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: he goes, Mike, why are your Thaucher hater. Why are

1414
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: you a hatar, Mike? They are one thing to send

1415
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: me to America and put me in an orange suit.

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 12: I remember that you were so agreed.

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: I still haven't got to It's somebody at seven sharp

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: who gave my number to Kim dot.

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 12: Com unforgivable, and we were all about that at TV

1420
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 12: and C. We were not allowed to give out people's

1421
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 12: personal cell phone. So that person just obviously breached the.

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: Rules exactly.

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 11: And I.

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 20: Did he did he hack it? Did he hack it off?

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: So Katie for you Chemico A couple of recommendations on Chemo.

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 24: Yeah, but it's not a stain as steel sink. I

1427
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 24: think people might be misunderstanding. It is a white ceramic,

1428
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 24: like a marble, like a quartz type white matte finish.

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 12: It's not a regular sink.

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: Somebody.

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 12: You can't put any bleach on them at all. They're very,

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 12: very delicate.

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01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 24: They only take a specific whitening product that comes out

1434
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 24: of like Holland or something ridiculous.

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 12: So hence why at the start of the week I

1436
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 12: was like, right, rip the whole sink out, let's start again.

1437
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 12: Get a new sink.

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01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 24: But that involves cutting into beaches and bench stops and

1439
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 24: marble and.

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:57,480
Speaker 12: Expensive.

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 20: I'm sugges some unlettered nine. You won in a match,

1442
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 20: just a little bit, you know, just a woman, a

1443
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 20: bit of carbon on top of.

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: It, reviews on you Katie? So far is Katie grumpy?

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: And she sounds flat to day?

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 24: I was, why don't you share with the group why

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 24: I might be a little bit tired. I went out

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01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 24: on a school night last night. Actually, this is a

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 24: very good bouquet for Open City, and I've been tough

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 24: on them because I see it here at the CBD,

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 24: and I've been very vociferous of my criticism of them.

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 24: But I was out last night. The first thing I

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01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 24: saw at Vulcan Lane off High Street two. They weren't cops,

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01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 24: but they looked like cops. They had all the high

1455
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 24: verse and the hats and the gear and the vests

1456
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 24: and the torches and whatever. They've hired security guards. Fantastic,

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01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 24: good presence in the city. And I was at Cassette nine,

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 24: a nightclub with a gig for kids. No I was,

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 24: I was chaperoning some under eighteens at a gig.

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Speaker 12: Anyway, it was.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, illegally at a nightclub, lightclubs and when I when

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Speaker 2: I golub very good question.

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Speaker 24: Tim, one of my my sons texted me and said,

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Speaker 24: oh my god, Mom, were you at Cassette nine. Were

1465
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 24: you in town on a Thursday night? That's you know

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 24: the gangs are there? And I was like, no, I

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 24: did not see a single gang member.

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Speaker 12: It was really good.

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Speaker 24: But actually, what's funny is I was taking my daughter

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Speaker 24: and so she had her ID and I didn't take mine.

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Speaker 12: And she said in the uber, do you have your ID? Mom?

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Speaker 12: And I said, sweetheart, I'm fifty. No one's asking me

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Speaker 12: for ID.

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Speaker 10: I'm old.

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 12: And when I got there, they were like, where's your ID?

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 24: And I said, and we cracked up about it, and

1477
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 24: they were like, no, we need to prove that you

1478
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 24: are her mother, that you related. So I had to

1479
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 24: get up my credit card and show them my last

1480
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 24: name and prove that we were indeed family members.

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Speaker 2: So you can get an underage you're in It's like

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,839
Speaker 2: drinking wine in a restaurant. So the rules if they're underage,

1483
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: but you're a parent, and you say I'm a parent,

1484
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm taking them and you can.

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 13: Is that the rule?

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 24: And yeah, And she had to wear a wristband to

1487
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 24: show the so the bar and you not to serve

1488
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 24: her alcohol.

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 12: But I don't know that this wasn't just for a

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Speaker 12: specific This.

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Speaker 24: Was an open This was an event for bands. It

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 24: was like a special night, So I don't know if

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Speaker 24: that's different.

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Speaker 12: Toolgon and you.

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 20: Hit the floor, Caddie down a few moves in front.

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01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 12: Of the kiddy in the marsh pit and the marsh part.

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01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: That's fantastic, good one. And you got home at a

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: reasonable hour. Normally you get home between three thirty and

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: four and I've already gone to work, but this morning

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Speaker 2: you were home at about one thirty quarter to two,

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Speaker 2: so that was not bad day.

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01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, And that was a good night.

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01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 24: And I thought I've been very down on Auckland and

1504
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 24: I was worried about going in, but I actually I

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 24: felt safe.

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01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 12: So that was that was a tune up for the books.

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: Mind you, most people wouldn't take you on, and that's try.

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01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 12: I look menacing.

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Speaker 2: You had some you had some stilettos and a lot

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Speaker 2: of leather.

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Speaker 20: Lot better with the gangs in town.

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Speaker 2: Exactly nice to see you guys. You have a good

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Speaker 2: weekend and we're not going to give the theater just

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Speaker 2: for the people who texted from Openaki and the Everybody's Theater.

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Speaker 2: We're not giving our couch to the Opinaki theater, are we? Caddy?

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Speaker 12: No? No, we probably can't get it to Openaki, can we?

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Speaker 20: Well, we could both about the Kim dot com and personation.

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Speaker 21: Give them that.

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Speaker 2: got a new kitchen with a white sink. Try to

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Speaker 2: dissolve a dishwasher table too, or a couple of scoops

1542
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Speaker 2: of dishwasher powder in the sink hot water overnight white. Perfect.

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Speaker 2: That's actually bridget. Not a bad idea, Mike left Field,

1544
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: Wait and forget, probably not the silliest idea of ever thought.

1545
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: Let it go, Mike. If you need your marble bench

1546
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: tops cutting to fit a new sink, give me a car.

1547
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: That's that's just going now you're.

1548
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 3: Talking, because what's clear to me is that this sink

1549
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 3: is made out of the opposite.

1550
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 14: Of what a sink.

1551
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: You've nailed it, so you want to just get yourself

1552
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 3: a nice, normal stainless steel.

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: One in the air. Couldn't agree more, couldn't get a

1554
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: hold of that. Guy thought we were called, or woman

1555
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: we were called I thought we thought we were cutting edge.

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 12: It was.

1557
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: It was in the kitchen. Designer said, oh this is

1558
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: the thing to have, she said, and.

1559
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 5: We people get they get carried away.

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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: It's like with light fittings. It's like you got to

1561
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: get the bold that fits the light fitting and it's yeah,

1562
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: we don't have those any.

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 2: Don't talk to me. It's like you're standing in my

1564
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: lounge at the moment and it's just a PTSD ing me.

1565
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 2: It's like, this is why I come to work. It's

1566
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: like a relief from the carnage at home. We got

1567
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: all sorts of interesting things going on in Australia. This

1568
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: is this Palestinian visa thing they've got going over there.

1569
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: That's a massive bust up in the house yesterday. We've

1570
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: got the Union still going on. There's been a kerfuffle

1571
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: over the Liberals at council level at a cockup of

1572
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: gargantuan proportions. And that's before we get to Latrell. What

1573
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: was it's Mitchell. All of this with Murray Old's after

1574
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: the news, which is next here on the Myke Hosking.

1575
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: Breakfast, The Breakfast Show you can trust The Mic Hosking

1576
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

1577
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs Ed B.

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01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: M Way Home say eight, all fabric bleach. Why would

1579
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: you put fabric bleach on a sink?

1580
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 5: Well, because it's nWay and they've got to meet a quota.

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01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 14: I think.

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01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad you've had a poor Weeklan, You've saved yourself there.

1583
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely brilliant congratulator. Twenty three minutes away from.

1584
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 15: Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of

1585
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 15: mind for New Zealand business.

1586
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: Right, let's cross the Tasman murray Els as well. This morning, mate,

1587
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: Good Michael, good morning this. I was watching the Australian

1588
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: Parliament and you immediately say to yourself, is this guy

1589
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: for real? What sort of blues racing? But yes, there

1590
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: I was this Palestinian thing, a two part question. I

1591
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: can't that the ASO guy who says you can come

1592
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 2: into Australia and go now, now, hummus, how are you feeling?

1593
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: And you go, well, look, you know I quite like them.

1594
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't give them any money, but they're not bad.

1595
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: And then they say, welcome to Australia. How does that work?

1596
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 19: Yeah, good question. Mike Vergess is the boss of ASIO.

1597
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 19: ASIO is the domestic spy agency that we run over

1598
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 19: here in Australia, and Vergess sit on the weekend. It's execuate,

1599
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 19: he said on its own. You know, theoretical support for

1600
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 19: that dreadful organization responsible for October seven would not necessarily

1601
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 19: stop you becoming a welcome visitor to Australia on whatever

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 19: sort of visa you can wrangle. So that does beg

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 19: the question what on earth is he talking about? And

1604
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 19: that's one of the reasons why the coalition has set

1605
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 19: Hang on a second, you're waving too many people through.

1606
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 19: Peter Dutton is saying that you've got a cue of

1607
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 19: being a racist. Yesterday that remark had to be withdrawn.

1608
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 19: But it's a mess, and hey, you resolve this particular

1609
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 19: angle from Vergers.

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly. So where does this go. Is

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: Labor hell bent on getting a visa up and getting

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 2: Palestinians in or is it one of those things that

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: they could probably let slide.

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Speaker 19: Well, here's the thing. Since the war began last October.

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 19: There have been more than ten thousand applicants from Palestinians.

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01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 19: They don't have passports. They travel on documents that are

1617
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 19: issued by the irrelevant authority there in the occupied territories

1618
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 19: Palestinian passport, let's call them that. So there have been

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01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 19: ten thousand people with the relevant documents. Only three thousand

1620
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 19: visitor visas have been issued. Seven thousand have been turned

1621
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 19: down for the reasons you imagine would be some kind

1622
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 19: of support for Hamas. And the fact of the matter

1623
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 19: is most of the people have been approved can't get

1624
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 19: out anyway because the war is ongoing. And the ones

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01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 19: who have come here they're kids, they're mums with their children.

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 19: There are you know, I don't know for a fact

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 19: they are no.

1628
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: But terrorists there.

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 19: But nobody does because I mean, look, the point Dutton

1630
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 19: is making it has a resonance across the country.

1631
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 2: Who a you're letting in? You know later the point

1632
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 2: is murray and I think he's probably made it. You don't.

1633
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: You don't want to let five hundred and the one

1634
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: that you let him, that's a mistake because the mistake

1635
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: is going to be catastrophic. And that's the real issue.

1636
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: Isn't it.

1637
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 19: That's the issue, and he's making perdical hayar that big

1638
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 19: time exactly Now, the Liberal I wouldn't normally raise this,

1639
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 19: but I'm interested to hear that you think it's a

1640
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 19: big deal.

1641
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: So in New South Wales the council boats coming up

1642
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: and the Liberals have cocked this up in a gargantuan fash.

1643
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 2: My goodness, how I mean that they haven't got the

1644
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 2: candidates up. There are people that aren't even on the

1645
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 2: ticket for various councils and stuff. How have they balls

1646
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: this up so badly?

1647
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 12: Well?

1648
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 19: Look, part of it's a faction fight the Liberal Party,

1649
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 19: I mean was it. Malcolm Terbull famously and when he

1650
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 19: was Prime Minister famously got in to Parliament said there

1651
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 19: are no factions in the Liberal Party. Hello, he said

1652
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 19: it was all about labor. Of course, there are factions

1653
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 19: in every political party. And this looks like a colossal

1654
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 19: stuff up because of a factional fight. And you say

1655
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 19: doesn't matter. I mean, isn't local government about rates, roads

1656
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 19: and rubbish? Yes it is, but local government does. It

1657
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 19: is a part of the Petrie dish of politics where

1658
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 19: the best ones tend to rise up and go to

1659
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 19: state level or even onto federal level politics. And what

1660
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 19: you've got here in less than a month, You've got

1661
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 19: local government elections right across New South Wales and the

1662
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 19: failure to lodge relevant nomination forms means there are forty

1663
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 19: eight sitting councilors who haven't got a seat next month,

1664
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 19: one hundred and forty candidates and more than a dozen

1665
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 19: local government areas. And what that means for the next

1666
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 19: four years you'll have no Liberal voice at local government

1667
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 19: level because all the seats are going to be filled

1668
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 19: by labor people or by independence who get up and

1669
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 19: beat the Labour people who got their hands out because

1670
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 19: there's no Liberal candidate. It's a disaster.

1671
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: It looks terrible.

1672
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 19: And the guy he's supposed to lick the relevant stamp

1673
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 19: and put it on the envelope and get it in

1674
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 19: the letterbox, he had his backside kicked last night and

1675
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 19: he's been sacked.

1676
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: Well surprised. Explain to me how this works. So the CFMU,

1677
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: which is the scandal we've talked about several times. The

1678
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: Greens don't want to ask answer questions about whether they

1679
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: have ever got money from those unions. Labour's looking to

1680
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: pass the law that says they can put these unions

1681
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: into administration. The unions are busy at court trying to

1682
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: prevent that happening. I would have thought the coalitions would

1683
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: have wanted to rain down on the unions as much

1684
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 2: as they possibly can. But into MICHAELA. Cash who says

1685
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: we need to need a review.

1686
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 19: Why she done that because the Coalition wants to keep

1687
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 19: this idea that labor is beholden to one of the

1688
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 19: most thuggish U unions in the country. It's in the polity,

1689
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 19: it's in the coalition's own interest to keep this in

1690
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 19: the headlines. They don't want some sort of you know,

1691
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 19: an administrator appointed and then the matter goes away. They

1692
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 19: want to keep it in the headlines.

1693
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 5: So here's the thing.

1694
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 19: The Coalition says, we like the idea of the bill

1695
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 19: to punish an absolute swine of a union where bikis

1696
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 19: and criminal people are infiltrating and getting well paid jobs

1697
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 19: and you know the poor old builder who you know,

1698
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 19: the developer has to come up with cash otherwise there's

1699
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 19: no industrial peace on his building side. That's been the

1700
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 19: way that this unions operated. But the Coalition says, we're

1701
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 19: not going to support this bill until the administrator is

1702
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 19: given a minimum of three years to clean up this

1703
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 19: union until Labor agrees to ban political donations. And they

1704
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 19: also want the administrator to come back every three months

1705
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 19: and report how he or she is going. So by

1706
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 19: doing that, the coalition would guarantee more headlines, damaging headlines

1707
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 19: for the union and you know, by inference, damaging headlines

1708
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 19: for the Labor government as well, because don't make no mistake,

1709
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 19: they are joined at the hip, have been for a

1710
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 19: long long time.

1711
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: That's the truth. Rex. How much more money is REX

1712
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: getting from the government. I mean, is this a time

1713
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 2: limited you know, you can just protect your tickers or

1714
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: go on forever.

1715
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 19: We've seen this movie before. This is a big country,

1716
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 19: and the big airlines, your quantuses, virgins and so on.

1717
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 19: They don't want to fly small regional routes because there's

1718
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 19: not enough money in them. So you have airlines like Rex,

1719
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 19: you have airlines like Bonza and all the other little

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Speaker 19: small players who have come and gone because the margins

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01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 19: are so skinny. Rex has only succeeded because it's got

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Speaker 19: a billionaire up in Singapore. He's been funding it. So

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 19: the small players get smacked and they have to fold

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01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 19: and all of a sudden, the regional people have got

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01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 19: no air links, and you need airlenks for people with

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01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 19: cancer treatment, people coming down to have babies, and all

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Speaker 19: sorts of things. You need that regional solidity of having

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Speaker 19: that air League available if you need it now. The

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Speaker 19: extent to which the federal government's prepared to prop that up,

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01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 19: we don't know, but certainly the government at this stage

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01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 19: is guaranteed passengers refunds if tickets are canceled. Rex is

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01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 19: still flying, The administrators still looking at it, and the

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Speaker 19: administrator comes back next month, and you'll probably come back

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Speaker 19: with his handout saying we need a lot more money please,

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Speaker 19: Federal government.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ma, go well, you have a good weekend. Always

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Speaker 2: a pleaser, chairs, Mike, thank you. Murray holds across the townsman.

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Speaker 2: Just before we leave that part of the world. Four

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Speaker 2: point two percent, that's the unemployment rate came up yesterday.

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 2: Fifty eight thousand Australians found work better than they thought.

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Speaker 2: Participation rate up good, best unemployment rates in WA because

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01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: they dig stuff out of the ground three point seven

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01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: percent of their economies. I'm sure Murray would tell you otherwise.

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Speaker 2: But their economy is going okay. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1746
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: By News talks that'd be well.

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Speaker 2: We find ourselves at twelve minutes away from nine and

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01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is outside as golf course at Bedminster in

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01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 2: New Jersey, and he has with him to his left

1750
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: a collection of groceries piled up, and he's come to

1751
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: talk to us today about the economy and inflation and

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01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: the price of biscuits.

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Speaker 25: The course of a typical monthly mortgage has doubled since

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01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 25: I left office, and that number was about three months

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01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 25: old from government, and now it's tripled. We had mortgage

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 25: rates at around two percent, close to two percent, and

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01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 25: they're now at ten percent, and you can't get a mortgage,

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01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 25: so that means it's a.

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Speaker 2: Lot higher than ten percent.

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Speaker 25: I guess it is whatever whatever they want to give

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01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 25: over the money, and that's a lot more than ten percent.

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 25: So when you think about double, they've actually quadrupled or

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01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 25: more than that, think of that quadrupled.

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Speaker 2: See he's lost the plot, isn't he. I mean, even

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: when you followed Trump as closely as we have on

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: this program and a lot of the time, although on

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01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: the surface it doesn't necessarily make immediate sense. You can

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01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: kind of get what he's saying, whereas now you can't

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01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: even get what he's saying, because.

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Speaker 5: Well, he thinks that he can just say anything.

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01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 2: But he used to think that, But you could if

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01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: you sat down and thought, oh, even though I don't

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01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: like him all that much, I get what he's trying

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: to get across. That literally makes no sense whatsoever to anybody.

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 2: Speaking of people like Elon Musk his starlink, I'm reading

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01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: with a great deal of interest. We love it, and

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01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: no one's better educated in this area than I am,

1778
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: because I love it. It's the only thing he's ever

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: done that I like as cars a crap. The hole

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Speaker 2: in the ground he was building between Las Vegas and

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01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, it never happened.

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Speaker 1: That was bollocks.

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Speaker 2: His rocket, I suppose, is all right, but I'm not

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01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: going on it. Guy bought one the other day. A

1785
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,440
Speaker 2: guy from can't remember where he's from, China or Taiwan's

1786
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: bought a four persona to go up on the Elon rocket.

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01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: They reckon it cost a couple of hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: to do that. Anyway, so I'm not a big fan

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Speaker 2: of that. But the starlink is brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Well you need the rocket to make that work, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. Of course you did well use

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01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: beck Beck will get the same thing up. He'll park

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: it up there for you. But anyway, starlink is brilliant.

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01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: But the number of people in this country that have

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01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: got starlink, thirty four thousand connections are in rural areas.

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01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: So the number of people have got it's gone from

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01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: twelve thousand to thirty seven thousand in the past year.

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: Thirty four thousand of those are in the country. So

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01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: he has solved what government's happened. I mean, government's been

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Speaker 2: battling with rural broadband for years and the service we

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01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: provide in this country is absolute rubbish. And he's come

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01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: along and invented a product that we can all buy

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01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: and it works and it's brilliant and I'm living, breathing

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01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: proof that it does work and it's bulletproof and it's

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01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: fantastic and New Zealanders are loving it. And for that

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01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: then I think we can thank him. Night Away from Nine.

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Speaker 1: Cost will breakfass with Bailey's real estate news talk said seven.

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: Away from Mind, just bring some clarity to what Trunk

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: was trying to say a moment ago where the interest

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01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 2: rates were two percent, that, of course they were two

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01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: percent all over the world for obvious reasons, and they're

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01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: ten percent now, which of course they aren't. They're a

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01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 2: bit over six on average. Anyway, he's got on to

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01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: San Francisco and they have.

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Speaker 25: The ocean, they have the sun, they have everything good.

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01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: But what they've done to it.

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Speaker 25: Is a shame, and she's going to do the same

1818
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 25: thing to our country. It was the policies they had

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01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 25: a recent articon. I didn't know this, but you're allowed

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Speaker 25: to rob a store as long as it's not more

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Speaker 25: than nine hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Has everyone ever.

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Speaker 16: Heard of that?

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Speaker 25: You can rob a store, and you have good thieves

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 25: going into stores with calculators calculating how much it is,

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Speaker 25: because if it's less than nine hundred and fifty dollars,

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01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 25: they can rob it not get charged.

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Speaker 1: That was her that did that.

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01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: Not technically true. You don't get prosecuted because they've got

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01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: so much crime in San Francisco they can't be bothered

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01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: prosecuting somebody with a minor offence like that. But I

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01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: strongly suspect that they don't have the calculators unless they

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01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 2: nick them. But that's the American race for you. The

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01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: funny thing that I'm sort of alluded to in marking

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: the week that I don't think we've got a cross

1836
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: on the program is this absurd scrap that's broken out

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Speaker 2: between Woolworth's and staff via the union, who are unhappy

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01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: that Woolworths were asking their staff if they wanted to,

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Speaker 2: but not compulsorily, to dress up as a Disney character,

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Speaker 2: and the upset from the unions, and I don't know

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01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 2: why this hasn't been a bigger story this week. The

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01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: upset from the unions came that the staff were expected

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01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 2: to pay for their own Disney outfits, which of course

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01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 2: is unacceptable. But then the supermarketsupset. You don't have to

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01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: do it, So why would a union get upset about

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01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: people dressing up as Mickey Mouse if you didn't want to.

1847
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: But that's the sort of thing we've got to in

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Speaker 2: this country. We've got unions and supermarkets scrapping over dress

1849
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 2: ups and who pays for the marvel It's to the

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01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,919
Speaker 2: most anyway. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now Warehouse, the real House of fragrances.

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Speaker 2: Then we get to Raygun, who I am now reading

1853
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: has been adversely affected by the torrent of abuse towards her.

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01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: She didn't come home with the Australian team. She went

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01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: with her husband, who's also a coach, off on holiday somewhere.

1856
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 2: But she's broken her silence overnight.

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Speaker 26: I just want to start by thanking all the people

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01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 26: who have supported me. I really appreciate the positivity and

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01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 26: I'm glad I was able to bring some joy into

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Speaker 26: your lives.

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Speaker 1: That's what I hoped.

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Speaker 26: I didn't realize that that would also open the door

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01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 26: to so much hate, which has frankly been pretty devastating.

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 26: While I went out there and I had fun, I

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01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 26: did take it very seriously. I worked my butt off

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01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 26: preparing for the Olympics and I gave my all.

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Speaker 2: Truly, it shows a level of naivety that you want

1868
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: to put yourself on the public stage in this day

1869
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 2: and age and not expect hate. But there you go, Warriors,

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01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: So the Sea Eagles tonight. This is all must win territory.

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01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 2: Although I think I've been saying that for a couple

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01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 2: of weeks, haven't I. So I think it's super must

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01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: win territory.

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Speaker 5: It's muss when and you need a degree in calculus

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01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 5: territory isn't.

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01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: A little bit of that. There's a bit of maths involved,

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01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: I think. But we can hope for the best and

1878
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 2: we got the All Blacks tomorrow. Still seats available, by

1879
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: the way, restricted view seats if you're after You can

1880
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: pay one hundred and eight dollars for a restricted view

1881
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,799
Speaker 2: seat if you want anyway. Back to back on Monday

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Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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1884
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