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Speaker 2: You know this is why I have you. I have
Speaker 2: you to keep me honest because I said there was
Speaker 2: only one team in the Super playoffs. In fact there
Speaker 2: are two Queensland and at the Brumbies Act the Brumbies,
Speaker 2: So I apologize. It was just that was just off
Speaker 2: the top of my head and I got it wrong.
Speaker 2: But Murray Old's is still only two Australian teams and
Speaker 2: four the Kiwi teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: The okay, then, yeah, I'm quite fine with that. Particularly
Speaker 3: good morning Andrew, since my Crusaders we got out of jail.
Speaker 3: I think it's the Brumbies that little knock on right
Speaker 3: at the end that was missed by the rev. But
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, look, it does mean a lot
Speaker 3: because it means home, home Quarters and home semis and
Speaker 3: so on. So the faithful in Campberra weren't happy, they
Speaker 3: were booing and so on. But look, I was taken
Speaker 3: back twenty five years to when Andrew Merten's slots a
Speaker 3: goal in the year two thousand to win the whole
Speaker 3: title for the Crusaders. I think was after the whistle
Speaker 3: even I think we won twenty one twenty and that
Speaker 3: was a huge night and the locals weren't happy then either.
Speaker 3: So fast forward a quarter century and look we didn't
Speaker 3: get the chocolates. But it just underlines, doesn't it, the
Speaker 3: big gap that continues to exist between the two trans
Speaker 3: Tasman rugby rivals. I meant a minute to midnight, we've
Speaker 3: got the British and Irish and Irish Lions coming here
Speaker 3: and you'd have to say there's really only one Australian
Speaker 3: team that looks up to the mark and that is
Speaker 3: the Brumbies coach by Stephen Larkham. Queensland have had a
Speaker 3: lot of injuries. The force and I mean New South
Speaker 3: Wales used to be the powerhouse of the son in rugby.
Speaker 3: It's fallen right off a cliffandrix. So look, there's a
Speaker 3: lot to play for for New Zealand teams. I feel
Speaker 3: sorry for the other South Island team, the poor old Highlanders,
Speaker 3: but that's the way the cookie crumbles, as they say,
Speaker 3: So look for two Glisloe Cup, correct me? Here? Is
Speaker 3: it twenty two or twenty three years since the Knuckleheads
Speaker 3: have actually won that so there's a lot riding on
Speaker 3: the and you've got the two million dollar men. You've
Speaker 3: got Tannyella Tupo waddling around like yeah, you know he's
Speaker 3: lost the you know, the way to the buffet. And
Speaker 3: you've got the other guy, the young chap who has
Speaker 3: got a broken jaw, come back with broken jaw and
Speaker 3: I can't think of his name, but I mean that
Speaker 3: are the two big stars for Australian rugby, so they
Speaker 3: need them to be firing as well.
Speaker 2: Yes indeed, But yeah, I did worry when I saw
Speaker 2: the Lions are coming because Northern Hemisphere rabby is strong,
Speaker 2: and then they get a combined strong team. But then
Speaker 2: I watched the beginning of Super Rugby and I thought, hello,
Speaker 2: the Aussies have really come up to the mark here.
Speaker 2: They're good, but just it just peetered out towards the end.
Speaker 2: What I'm really interested in is whether an ANZAC side,
Speaker 2: which they're going to do on this tour, a New
Speaker 2: Zealand Australian combined side, is actually going to come up
Speaker 2: to a mark and actually be competitive. But that's more
Speaker 2: to come. There's just some serious news that I love
Speaker 2: hearing you talk about sport Marriot's fair to say, but
Speaker 2: some serious news and Australia is getting bullied by the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 3: Well indeed in terms of the you know, the defense
Speaker 3: spend that Australia is prepared to commit to. And this
Speaker 3: happened up in Singapore the shangrilad dialogue. It's an annual thing.
Speaker 3: Pete Hesgeth the chap of the lantern during the Lovely haircut.
Speaker 3: It happens to be Donald Trump's Defense secretary, and he
Speaker 3: basically said to Asian Pacific listen, Europe's spending you know,
Speaker 3: up of four percent maybe five percent on defense every
Speaker 3: year of GDP, Australia, other Asian nations, you have to
Speaker 3: sort of match up. Well, Anthony Albanezi predictably came out
Speaker 3: and said, well, you can bug it right off. We're
Speaker 3: not interested in getting bullied by you guys. We will
Speaker 3: determine our defense spend and our defense policy. I mean,
Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is America's got Australia and
Speaker 3: a hook for nearly four hundred billion dollars on submarines
Speaker 3: that may never be delivered, nuclear submarines that may never
Speaker 3: ever see Australian waters. There's no guarantees and so we're
Speaker 3: committed all this money into the future. I mean next
Speaker 3: fifty sixty years. Who on Earth knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Are we still going to need nuclear submarines hideously expensive
Speaker 3: and so on the Is it going to be a
Speaker 3: war of droanes? Is it going to be it that
Speaker 3: shuts down petrol pumps and banks right across the country.
Speaker 3: I mean, what's war going to look like in half
Speaker 3: a century? We have no idea. So it's a bit
Speaker 3: rich for Washington to say to Canberra, Listen, you've got
Speaker 3: to bump up your spending. I mean, do we spend
Speaker 3: more on drones? Do we cancel this ridiculous submarine deal.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions here for the brand new
Speaker 3: alberan Esy government, but there was credit Anthony Albanesi and
Speaker 3: stood out over the weekend and said you rack.
Speaker 2: Off good okay. And there's a lot of debate about
Speaker 2: whether Trump wants to give you the submarines in the
Speaker 2: first place. So there's the thing. And he's not a
Speaker 2: mate because he's gone and doubled the steel tariff.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, fifty percent. It look desert heard Australia. Well,
Speaker 3: yes it does. We do that there's about a billion
Speaker 3: dollars worth of Australian steel and alumina No italianminium, knucklehead,
Speaker 3: it's about a billion dollars of Australian steel and aluminium
Speaker 3: export to the United States every year fifty tariff. Well,
Speaker 3: they still need that Australian steel and aluminium, so it's
Speaker 3: going to be still going into America. The fact of
Speaker 3: the matter is Australia those products are going to be
Speaker 3: catched an extra twenty five percent by the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: And who's going to pay that. It'll be the American consumers,
Speaker 3: the car makers, the people making all the boilers for
Speaker 3: the plants that Trump says are going to be built
Speaker 3: to fund his brand new make America great again. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just such a silly, silly thing to do and
Speaker 3: making it more expensive for American consumers. And as Anthony
Speaker 3: Albineasi said in the week, it is not the act
Speaker 3: of a friend. So where this goes? I mean, and
Speaker 3: they have a look at markets, the people are scratching
Speaker 3: their head saying, where the hell is this going? Because
Speaker 3: I don't think Donald does Donald Trump have any idea?
Speaker 3: Certainly the markets have no idea what he's planning and
Speaker 3: you know what is next. But all we know is
Speaker 3: that it's royaling world markets and it's not good for anybody.
Speaker 2: All right, Murray, I thank you so much for your
Speaker 2: turn this Murray holds Out of Australia.
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