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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news togs d be welling

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Speaker 1: and welcome.

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Speaker 2: Today new stats on how long people on benefits stay

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Speaker 2: on benefits. You will not believe it. We got a

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Speaker 2: new Zealand startup making good noise, big noise in the

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Speaker 2: United States. Hayden Hadden on a major motorsport invite. Joe

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Speaker 2: McKenna is in Raymond, wand Little is in the UK

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Speaker 2: on Budget Day asking welcome to Thursday seven past six

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Speaker 2: to tell you what if this government wants a money

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Speaker 2: saving idea, then they can cancel the two COVID inquiries

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Speaker 2: we've got under at the moment and simply adopt Australia's.

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Speaker 2: Australia's released yesterday's damning as indeed will ours be and

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Speaker 2: ours will be pretty much the same as Australia's because

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Speaker 2: within a margin, we did pretty much the same thing.

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Speaker 2: The irony, if there is one, is that they had

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Speaker 2: versions of theirs, and here's a major lesson. Even with

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Speaker 2: the versions, it's broadly accepted, none of them turned out

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Speaker 2: to be much chop. If we were a state of Australia,

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Speaker 2: we would have come in at the tighter or more

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Speaker 2: restrictive end of the Australian version. Places like Victoria were

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Speaker 2: very much like us because they were run by two

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Speaker 2: very similar sort of people, Dan Andrews and Jacinda Adune.

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Speaker 2: They were hard left control frecks. Western Australia was an

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Speaker 2: outlier in the sense they had a lot of rules,

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Speaker 2: but not many of them applied inside the state. In

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Speaker 2: other words, they locked themselves off from the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world, but because they were self reliant they got

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Speaker 2: on with life. New South Wales, run by conservatives, had

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Speaker 2: the most lenient response. But and I would have thought

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Speaker 2: this is the biggest outtake. No matter what the response,

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Speaker 2: faith and trust has been lost. The rallying cry post

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Speaker 2: COVID has been to learn the lessons, so we're ready

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Speaker 2: for next time? Are we ready for next time?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Will we ever be?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Will it be worse?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Why? Because, as the report suggests, the big lesson we

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Speaker 2: have learned is that the people who run us aren't

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Speaker 2: up to much, and they did a lot of things

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Speaker 2: we would never go along with again, which does, of

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Speaker 2: course present a very real issue. I would have thought,

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Speaker 2: because it's entirely possible there will be a next time.

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Speaker 2: These reports are also predicated on the idea that those

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Speaker 2: who ran it all learned their life. Will they, of

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Speaker 2: course not. The public service is full of Ashley's and

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Speaker 2: cinders and dens and gladuss inhibits them or their milk

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Speaker 2: running things. Next time we'll look exactly like this time,

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Speaker 2: except and this is where the carriage will ensue. We

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Speaker 2: won't be along for the rye.

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Speaker 1: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety seconds in Britain, and there's advertised the Libor

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Speaker 2: governments might good on their promise to up the Texas

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Speaker 2: all over the place.

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Speaker 4: Any chancellor standing here today would have to face this reality,

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Speaker 4: and any responsible chancellor would take action.

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Speaker 2: The Tories love it.

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Speaker 5: Rachelius has chosen to break a manifesto pledge not to

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Speaker 5: increase national insurance. This is a twenty five billion pound

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Speaker 5: tax rise which will hurt employees.

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Speaker 2: Just before we leave Britain. By the way, they've spotted

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Speaker 2: a bit of the impos He is.

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Speaker 6: Being treated and is isolated at the moment, and the

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Speaker 6: UK Security Agency say the risk to the wider public

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Speaker 6: remains no.

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Speaker 2: Then to the stites where poor old Joe not having

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Speaker 2: played much of a role in proceedings into the Rice

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Speaker 2: yesterday with his own version of Clinton's deplorables on.

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Speaker 7: A garbage icy float down there is his supporters, His

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Speaker 7: demonizational seat is unconsitable, and it's on American It's coly

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Speaker 7: contrary to everything we've done.

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Speaker 2: Camelon needed that, of course, like a hole in the head.

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Speaker 8: Let me be Claire.

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Speaker 2: I strongly disagree with any pinsism of people.

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Speaker 7: Based on who they vote for.

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Speaker 9: It's you've hurt in my speech last night and continuously

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Speaker 9: throughout my career.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, Trump is still trying to distance himself from

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Speaker 2: that idiot at Medicine Square Garden.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who it is. I don't even know

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Speaker 7: who put him in, and I can't imagine it's a

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Speaker 7: big deal. I've done more for Puerto Rico than any president.

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Speaker 7: You wish he was in there. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: don't know if it's a big deal or not, but

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Speaker 7: I don't want anybody making nasty jokes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big deal. Finally, Google, they've banned seventeen

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Speaker 2: Russian telement continents on YouTube because of international sanctions. So

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Speaker 2: Russian court has handed down a fine on behalf of

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Speaker 2: those seventeen TV channels, they find them twenty decillion dollars,

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Speaker 2: which is twenty followed by thirty three zeros. For the record,

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Speaker 2: that's more than all the money in the world. Are

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Speaker 2: the world that apparently the global economy is worth about

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Speaker 2: one hundred trillion dollars, so that is news of the

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Speaker 2: world in ninety second, speaking of money, speaking of economies

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Speaker 2: and finances, Germany's inflation has searched, so that's not good.

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Speaker 2: They're up to two point four percent annualized for October,

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Speaker 2: way higher than they thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 2: But Australia's come to the party. They've got virtually no

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Speaker 2: two for the quarter two point eight for the year,

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Speaker 2: so those cuts have got to be coming. Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Despite German inflation, the Eurozone grew zero point four percent

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Speaker 2: got jobs galore private companies two hundred and thirty three thousand.

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Speaker 2: and I've been on the fence, but I think it

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Alphabet is I like to see

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Speaker 2: mean the numbers. It's like small countries, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, eyewatering, really aren't they? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: So the big players really coming to the plates this

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Speaker 11: that tomorrow morning. Yeah, after we spoke yesterday, Alphabet or

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Speaker 11: the Google owner released their third quarter results. But it's

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Speaker 11: been there's been a bit of trepidation or concern heading

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Speaker 11: That, you've got higher digital advertising revenues, increased amound for

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Speaker 11: its flagship search engine Google. So you had good gains

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Speaker 11: in both revenue and profit. Here's the numbers, here's what

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's just an absurd.

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Speaker 11: You know, these comings to the twillions of dollars. That's

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Speaker 11: consensus estimate of eighty six point four to five, So

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Speaker 11: eighty six point four to five, but they got eighty

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Speaker 10: But that was also up sixteen percent.

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Speaker 11: So consistent across both measures. Earnings per share an important metric,

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Speaker 11: so beat expectations. Now in the background, might you've had

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Speaker 10: There's also been this other issue might Google.

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Speaker 11: You know, you go and google something, you've essentially had

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Speaker 10: Here's another statistic buried in their mic that I thought

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Speaker 11: Twenty five percent of Alphabet's new code is written by

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Speaker 2: So good result. Interesting. I was watching Jim Chalmers yesterday.

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Speaker 11: You talked about zero point two percent Q three, headline

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Speaker 11: still plenty of inflation and they're four point six percent

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Speaker 10: And actually it's.

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Speaker 11: Looking like, you know, maybe not even you won't seem

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Speaker 10: So only a very very small chance of ratecus this year.

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Speaker 11: They've you've still got robust employment numbers they're coming through.

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Speaker 11: Didn't move their market around too much. But yes, you're

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Speaker 11: sort of talking about a soft landing there now, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Zealanders are leaving for Australia. Now, what are the numbers?

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Speaker 11: Well, so at the moment, the US share markets are

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Speaker 2: It be a couple of things you're probably involved in.

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Speaker 14: No because again we enrich the data so that an

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Speaker 2: Will you get to a point and I'm asking from

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Speaker 14: Mike's interested in five Smith Street or whatever it may

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Speaker 14: be We now know Mike isn't like these bathrooms, who

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Speaker 14: likes kitchens that look like vers He wants to be

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Speaker 14: in this area. So it just builds so much efficiency

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Speaker 14: in that sales cycle.

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Speaker 2: Are you a AI freak or are you just an

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Speaker 2: entrepreneur who's who's seen an opportunity here just in.

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Speaker 14: The more entrepreneurial path I would I would think trying

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Speaker 14: to be an AI freak, but probably more in the

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Speaker 14: entrepreneurial side of that.

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Speaker 2: Right, So where are you at in the broad based

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Speaker 2: global discussion that AI is going to tip us upside

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Speaker 2: down and change the world in which we know it

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Speaker 2: versus it'll probably do some cool stuff, but we've overreacted.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I'm probably more in that it'll probably do

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Speaker 14: some course doesn't we've overreacted. It's been a really interesting

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Speaker 14: learning curve for us. I think there's been so much

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Speaker 14: we've had with with different people in America, they've been like, look,

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Speaker 14: I just kept seeing solutions to problems. I don't think

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Speaker 14: I have. People are so quick to bring these products

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Speaker 14: the market without you know, real life use cases. So

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Speaker 14: you know, for us, we've been hyper focused on real

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Speaker 14: world proof points. You know, so we got a couple

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Speaker 14: of really good clients early on and just nailing that

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Speaker 14: execution and bringing value and generating real ROI has kind

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Speaker 14: of been what our focus has been on and that's

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Speaker 14: proved pretty effective so far.

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Speaker 2: at play here? What's Libya got that Italy wants?

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Speaker 15: Well, this is.

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Speaker 12: Prime Minister Georgia Maloney's fourth visit to Libya, and of

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Speaker 12: course the attention is very much on keeping migrants in

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Speaker 12: Africa and not letting them cross the Mediterranean. But this

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Speaker 10: Of course the.

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Speaker 12: Oil is important there. They want to promote investment in Libya,

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Speaker 12: which says to me that the situation must looking a

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Speaker 12: lot more stable than it has in recent years. They

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Speaker 12: want to boost foreign investment and do deals between the banks.

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Speaker 12: One of the Italian airlines is going to resume direct

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Speaker 12: flights to libyat Earth also next year. So this is

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Speaker 12: part of Italy's plan to invest, try and build business,

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Speaker 12: keep migrants where they are and stop them from crossing

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Speaker 12: the Mediterranean.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that's the reason I asked the question.

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Speaker 2: It seems just not one way. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much Liby is offering anyway. Speaking of which the

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Speaker 2: Albania thing as speaking of migrants in Bologna, how many

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Speaker 2: do you like America. You go to different courts and

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Speaker 2: different regions in different places and get all sorts of

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Speaker 2: different decisions and the whole thing's a mess.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, this is an interesting one. Apparently a Bangladeshi

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Speaker 12: migrant asylum seeker was seeking international protection. They went through

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Speaker 12: This migrant went through the one of the Bologna courts.

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Speaker 12: Not sure why they chose that one, but this one

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Speaker 12: has obviously taken a strong stand and is referring the

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Speaker 12: whole Albanian deal that Maloney is pushing for migrants. The

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Speaker 12: offshore migrant centers referred that to the European Court of Justice.

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Speaker 12: Maloney says she doesn't care and she's going to press ahead.

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Speaker 12: So let's see what happens there.

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Speaker 2: What's your top court? So if you go regionally, if

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Speaker 2: you pick a favorite light, you go to someone in

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Speaker 2: California for a soft decision, and then you end up

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Speaker 2: at the Supreme Court. But the supreme courts, you know,

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Speaker 2: federal obviously do you do? You have that same system

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Speaker 2: in Italy.

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Speaker 12: There are three levels of appeal and it stops at

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Speaker 12: the High Court, which is based in Rome.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, speaking of Rome, what's going on with the crime wave,

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Speaker 2: What's happening there.

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Speaker 12: Well, it looks like with all these tourists that we've

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Speaker 12: talked about Mike coming into Rome, the restauranteurs and the

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Speaker 12: bar owners say that their clients are being besieged by

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Speaker 12: thieves and bag snatches. One of the restaurant associations saying

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Speaker 12: they're getting one hundred reports a day of muggings, thefts

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Speaker 12: and pickpocketing in the bars and restaurants. They've got gangs

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Speaker 12: running through their restaurants and they're really working hard to

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Speaker 12: make tourists aware of the risks if they leave their

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Speaker 12: bags or their belongings on a chair or a table

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Speaker 12: and don't keep an eye on them.

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Speaker 2: It's funn You should say that we're friends who went

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Speaker 2: through Italy, not just Ruying, but other parts of Italy

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Speaker 2: and sitting in a pizza these days. Correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. They were suggesting you were bothered constantly by

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Speaker 2: beggars masquerading as thieves or thieves, Mester, You just can't

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Speaker 2: have a quiet meal anymore. You're just being hustled the

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Speaker 2: whole time. Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 12: Look, I think there are a lot of beggars and

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Speaker 12: also people selling jewelry on the streets you know, coming

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Speaker 12: up to you in restaurants offering you stuff that you

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Speaker 12: really don't need or want, and interrupting constantly. And I

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Speaker 12: was at lunch with a friend today and we had

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Speaker 12: at least two people stop us and ask us to

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Speaker 12: buy things as we were sitting there trying to have

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Speaker 12: our lunch.

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Speaker 2: Is anyone doing anything about that or not? Really?

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Speaker 12: No, I don't think so. It's certainly a worry with

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Speaker 12: the pickpockets, and the police are reacting. They're doing more

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Speaker 12: checks on the subways, and I think we're going to

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Speaker 12: see that step up as we go into the Jube

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Speaker 12: year next year in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 2: I know you're back, due back on Tuesday, so we

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Speaker 2: look forward to your company. Then appreciate it pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Joe McKenna out of Italy for us this morning. I

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Speaker 2: note that Venice is going to double. They obviously worked

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Speaker 2: out at works this five euro thing where you go

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Speaker 2: to Venice you get charged depending on what day you go.

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Speaker 2: They try and keep you out in the busy periods

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Speaker 2: are between April and July, weekends and stuff. Anyway, they're

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Speaker 2: going to double the number of days they charge you

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Speaker 2: to go to Venice as of next year, ate away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: The my hostal breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities VA before.

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Speaker 2: We believe the EU, they finally got around to slapping

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Speaker 2: the tariffs on the Chinese EV's. Tesla's get seven point

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Speaker 2: eight percent, but some of the major players out of

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Speaker 2: China get thirty five point three percent. It's all been

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Speaker 2: sanctioned official put in the journal. The Chinese say it's bollocks.

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Speaker 2: They don't you know. They'll probably slapped something else on tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, this is EU's response to China over gearing

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Speaker 2: the business of the Chinese EV's and dumping them on

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Speaker 2: the market. All they say, dumping them on the market.

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Speaker 2: So that's been implemented this morning, I've minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Billy HiT's the Fizz with business Fiber take your business

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Speaker 1: productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Right zero. Small Business Insight reports also out this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one percent of small businesses cut staff and Q

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Speaker 2: three Q three in July, August September due to the

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Speaker 2: sales dropping. This is not good. Our highest percentage of

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Speaker 2: businesses to do so since early twenty twenty when the

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Speaker 2: lockdowns came in Hospo not surprisingly, hardest hip forty five

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Speaker 2: percent of hospow businesses have shrunk their workforce. If you

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Speaker 2: take a closer look at the numbers, job growth was

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Speaker 2: actually up six percent year on years, So that's the

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Speaker 2: encouraging part. That growth was only fueled by twenty seven

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Speaker 2: percent of the small businesses. So the small businesses that

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Speaker 2: are doing okay are carrying the heavy load when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the jobs. Those sales, by the way, overall

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Speaker 2: down two point seven percent on the year. Every single

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Speaker 2: industry experienced to drop in sales and every single region

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Speaker 2: in the country. So urick in Q three is going

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Speaker 2: to be going backwards in terms of the GDP I think,

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Speaker 2: so that would be our third recession in two years.

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Speaker 2: Largest clients construction down over five percent, agriculture down over

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Speaker 2: four percent and retail down four percent. Flat worst hit

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Speaker 2: region Taranaki overall sales down six percent. Northland had the

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Speaker 2: best result. Sales are only down zero point nine percent.

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Speaker 2: But whichever way you slice that, it is hard work

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Speaker 2: being a small business. It is hard work finding a job.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, it is hard work for this economy.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking across the Tasman at Charmers. As I

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier on yesterday they got inflation well and truly

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Speaker 2: under control. They got a buoyant job market. Teachers in

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Speaker 2: New South Wales they announced a deal yesterday. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what you start on as a teacher in New

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Speaker 2: South Wales now over one hundred thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 2: and you wonder why people are leaving? Speaking of jobs

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Speaker 2: in welfare. Louise Upston boys, she got a job on

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Speaker 2: her plate. We talked to her in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities of the big names. Talk

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Speaker 1: to Mike my costing breakfast with the range Rover vi

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Speaker 1: La designed to intrigue and use talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be past seven. New insight into the damage social

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Speaker 2: welfare is doing lives around the country. The Ministry of

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Speaker 2: Social Development has got these new numbers this morning. Those

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Speaker 2: under twenty five on a main benefit, we'll spend an

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Speaker 2: average of twenty more years on a benefit over their lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Under twenty fives on job seeker will spend an average

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Speaker 2: of eighteen years. Those under twenty who are receiving a

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Speaker 2: youth benefit will spend an average of about twenty three

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Speaker 2: years on a benefit. Now, the Minister of Social Development

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Speaker 2: and employment louis upstince and chargeable or of this since

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Speaker 2: she's with us. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: I remember talking to you about this. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: had these numbers. Had those numbers changed up or down

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Speaker 2: in any material way since we last talked.

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Speaker 9: They haven't really changed. And this data is based on

662
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Speaker 9: a report using data from September twenty three. It is

663
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Speaker 9: pretty dire and it actually shows why we have to

664
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Speaker 9: do far more to the welfare system to make it

665
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Speaker 9: more active and not tolerate this sort of forecast.

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Speaker 2: I feel I'm in a parallel universe. These numbers can't

667
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Speaker 2: be real. Are they real?

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Speaker 9: They are real, and they are based on what has

669
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Speaker 9: actually happened with people who've been in the job seeker system.

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Speaker 9: So the model is very accurate. It is a forecast.

671
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Speaker 9: And so now it's our job in government to take

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Speaker 9: more steps to ensure this doesn't happen. And that's what

673
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Speaker 9: our job is ahead of.

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Speaker 2: Us, do we?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: I read the numbers to mean that if you're young,

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Speaker 2: if you're twenty in this twenty three years, you'll go

678
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Speaker 2: in and out off of benefit on and off of

679
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: benefit over that twenty three year period. You might get

680
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Speaker 2: a job, then you lose a job, get a job,

681
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Speaker 2: lose a job. Is that right? Or are these people

682
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Speaker 2: just on a benefit forever.

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Speaker 9: No, it is on and off, as you quite rightly say.

684
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Speaker 9: But the reality is if you think about twenty three

685
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 9: years out of your working age, that's fifty percent, so

686
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Speaker 9: your income, earnings, your opportunities are far less than someone

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Speaker 9: who's been an employment and that's just something I'm not

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Speaker 9: willing to tolerate. That's why we've put so much work

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Speaker 9: into welfare that works, supporting young people with phone case management,

690
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Speaker 9: making that it clear to them, with the traffic light

691
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Speaker 9: system what their obligations are. We're just not willing to

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Speaker 9: sit back and watch that happen because those are young

693
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Speaker 9: Kiwis who deserve the same opportunities that every other king

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Speaker 9: he does.

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Speaker 2: It's a gargantuan task then of what I say is correct,

696
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Speaker 2: because what you're doing is seeing people on the fringes

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Speaker 2: of the economy, aren't you. So when things are good,

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Speaker 2: they'll pick up a job for a year whatever, then

699
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Speaker 2: they're back unemployed again. They're probably in the wrong part

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Speaker 2: of the country. They've got nose skills. Those are big

701
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: things you've got to turn around.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and absolutely, when the labor market is tight, young

703
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 9: people are disproportionately affected. But the good news is when

704
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 9: the economy burns, they also pick up employment more quickly.

705
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Speaker 9: So we need to ensure they spend less time on welfare,

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Speaker 9: that they don't get stuck there, and that we get

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Speaker 9: them on track with some training, with some education, and

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Speaker 9: definitely with some work opportunities. That's why we've set the

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Speaker 9: target to reduce the number on jobs see benefit by

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Speaker 9: fifty thousand in six years, because we know work makes

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Speaker 9: such a difference to people's lives.

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Speaker 2: That's the truth. Do you still as a government see

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Speaker 2: unemployment still rising. We're going to get out of this

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Speaker 2: year and into next year and it's going to be

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Speaker 2: the last lag figure before things turn Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, that is the reality when you come out of

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Speaker 9: a recession, unemployment is the last to kind of feel

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Speaker 9: the effects. Treasury Head forecast that the peak would be January,

719
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Speaker 9: so that's likely still to be the case, but it

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Speaker 9: might lag a bit further than that. Look, at the

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Speaker 9: end of the day, we're not waiting. We're not waiting

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Speaker 9: for it to get as bad as it might get.

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Speaker 9: We're taking active steps now to support more qbs into

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Speaker 9: work or to get them as ready as possible. So

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Speaker 9: when the economy does turn, businesses have got more confident.

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Speaker 9: We've got people on our books and MSD is working

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Speaker 9: incredibly hard so that employers can pick those Kiwis up,

728
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Speaker 9: those Kellys lives can go forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's hope. So I appreciate time, Louis Upston, Minister

730
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Speaker 2: of Social Development and Employment and mean it's sobering. It's

731
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Speaker 2: in eleven minutes past seven pastoral details run the ice

732
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Speaker 2: speaking of sobering. More details run the ongoing response from

733
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Speaker 2: the state and the sexual abuse survivors and the Royal

734
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Speaker 2: Commission into their treatment. Now the government will reimburse legal fees,

735
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: was yesterday's announcement. Ninety five survivors cut a deal back

736
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and one with the Crown, but the

737
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Speaker 2: law firm acting for the group at the time clip

738
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Speaker 2: the ticket. So on average each survivor lost out around

739
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Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 2: Jim Goodwin is an abuse survivor who was on the

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Speaker 2: Royal Commission Survivor Advisory Group Anders with us. Jim very

743
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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So far, from my estimations, we've got a promise, we're

746
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Speaker 2: going to do something about it. We've got some good will,

747
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Speaker 2: and we've got the first of what presumably is non

748
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Speaker 2: going series of deliveries. Are you happy so far?

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Speaker 16: Ah?

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Speaker 3: I don't think the government should be too surprised if

751
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Speaker 3: the Lake Alie survivors aren't jumping up and down with delight.

752
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: I mean they've had to struggle to get things that's

753
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: sort of been given to them.

754
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think that that's the good will part

755
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: of it, doesn't I mean, at least this government has

756
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: gone yep, we've got to do something, and here's our something.

757
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Speaker 3: It's progress, it's a start, it's progress.

758
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Speaker 2: Do you worry though, that we'll open the door inevitably?

759
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Speaker 2: Because I was thinking about this yesterday when I was

760
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Speaker 2: listening to Erica Stanford. No matter what they do, someone's

761
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Speaker 2: going to be unhappy, aren't they. It's just one of

762
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Speaker 2: these issues.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think you're right in part. Yes, yeah, yeah.

764
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Speaker 3: Survivors a pretty cynical lot, and the Lake Alice group

765
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Speaker 3: are very good example of that. I mean they've been

766
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Speaker 3: mucked around for decades, they've had to battle for things

767
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: that sort have been given to them as of right.

768
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Speaker 2: The inflation argument that we seem to have yesterday. If

769
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Speaker 2: you're covering a bill, what were they arguing? In other words,

770
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Speaker 2: you missed out and if you'd got the money at

771
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: the time, at the inflation, you'd have something more substantive. Now,

772
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: the Stanford argument that all the governments have done it

773
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Speaker 2: without inflation. Does that ring true or hold water for

774
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Speaker 2: you or not?

775
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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think that's a bit of a side issue. Yeah,

777
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's the main issue. It's great that

778
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: the government as stepping up and reimbursing legal costs. It

779
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: would be nice if they could adjust for inflation. But

780
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Speaker 3: it's a bit of a side issue.

781
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Speaker 2: Really, What weight do you place on the apology which

782
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: is coming in a couple of.

783
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Speaker 3: Weeks quite a lot, quite a lot of weight. I

784
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Speaker 3: hope it's very heartfelt, but I hope it's also followed

785
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: up with action.

786
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Speaker 2: Well, let's ope it's Jim appreciate it. Jim Goodwin. I

787
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: was looking at Erica Stanford yesterday and I gave you

788
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: on the program yesterday the ongoing disaster that is the

789
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Speaker 2: immigration system in this country and the waiting times that

790
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: we've got to put up with, and even the head

791
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: of the Immigration Service was saying it's not good enough.

792
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Speaker 2: And I'm looking at Erica Stanford on this. I'm looking

793
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: at Erica Stamford in immigration, and I'm looking at Erica

794
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: Stanford in education all areas that are dire, and I'm

795
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Speaker 2: wondering if she's stretched too thin. Fourteen past seven pasking

796
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: now one hundred thousand dollars on catering. You say, didn't

797
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: we hear this the other day? Oh, yes we did,

798
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: but that was a separate one. So this one hundred

799
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars more on catering from Health New Zealand ninety

800
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Speaker 2: five hundred and eighty four dollars to be precise, And

801
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: this was for some financial wonks for a three day conference.

802
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: So Retti once again has issued the warning to them

803
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Speaker 2: if you're going to do the sausage rolls in the cannapace.

804
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Last one, the cannapays were thirty two dollars a pop.

805
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Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever been I don't even know

806
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: what you get. That's not just one that's a cannopay.

807
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: It's thirty two dollars or do you think it was

808
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: a hit. Thirty two dollars a hero person. Now, I'm

809
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: not sure thirty two.

810
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 15: Dollars You're not getting thirty two dollars and Moses are you?

811
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Speaker 2: I mean, what are you getting for thirty two dollars? Anyway?

812
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: Asha Verel, who was of course in charge at the time,

813
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: she was quote unquote distancing herself from it, no kidding.

814
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: Fifteen pasted.

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Speaker 2: invitation for next year. We'll tell you about shortly seventeen

819
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Speaker 2: past seven after ninety five years. Speaking of cars, ninety

820
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Speaker 2: five years, Aukland's Western Springs Speedway moving to wake Oaka Park.

821
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Speaker 2: Auckland councilors yesterday feisty old meeting. Apparently they voted to

822
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Speaker 2: move it out to way Iraka spend eleven million dollars

823
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Speaker 2: upgrading the place. It's been a real battle. John McCallum's

824
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Speaker 2: the manager of Western Spring Speedway and as well as

825
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Speaker 2: John Morning, Good morning man.

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Speaker 17: You said indeed we are. Yeah, I mean, who wouldn't

827
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Speaker 17: be ninety five years of history and that's an iconic venue,

828
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Speaker 17: finally pointing the curtain down.

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Speaker 2: Does it make sense it loses money, You're better off

830
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 2: somewhere else, make some more money, do it more often?

831
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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, or is that just bollocks?

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Speaker 17: No, it makes sense if you want to face the realities.

833
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Speaker 17: But normally a counsel investment of eleven million dollars a

834
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Speaker 17: year sport you'd be chumping for joy. But it's a

835
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Speaker 17: pretty hard fact to celebrate when it's tied to You

836
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Speaker 17: could have the eleven million dollars, but you're no long.

837
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Speaker 2: Going to be your home and so so if you would,

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Speaker 2: wud you have done anything at Western Springs? Was there

839
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Speaker 2: a way around it? Realistically or not realistically?

840
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 17: There was? It was made very clear to us by Tau,

841
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 17: the landlord there, that there was no future for speedway

842
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 17: Western Springs. They hadn't hidden from that, and I guess

843
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 17: one of the things that came out of yesterday was

844
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Speaker 17: that the chair of Tartak he was able to stand

845
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Speaker 17: up there and say, look, we're not offering a new license.

846
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 17: There is no future at Western Springs and everybody got

847
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 17: to hear that. But they have delivered on their promise

848
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Speaker 17: of assisting with the eleven million dollars to build a

849
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Speaker 17: new facility.

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Speaker 2: Could it boom at why Kreka the Sports It could.

851
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Speaker 17: I mean we've got a huge opportunity there to build

852
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 17: a new track, a new stadium, all the things that

853
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 17: were missing at Western Springs, the many benefits around the

854
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 17: accessibility and for competitors, and the amount of restriction on dates,

855
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 17: and the things that make Western Springs so hard to

856
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 17: operate under the Unitary Plan and the council regulations, et

857
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 17: cetera will be removed. So it will definitely give it

858
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Speaker 17: a lifeline. And it was the only lifeline. Well, it's

859
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 17: got a much better option than disappearing completely. Was it

860
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 17: was no open wheeler racing in Auckland or take our Yeah,

861
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Speaker 17: go to Wikrecord Park and build your whole future.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, build it, they will come good on you. John,

863
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Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. John McCallum, the meeting. This has

864
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Speaker 2: been going on for years. Of course it won't bore

865
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Speaker 2: the rest of the country with Auckland's problems, but they

866
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Speaker 2: had a nice seven hour dissertation yesterday. Just in case

867
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Speaker 2: you want to be a counselor and you wonder why

868
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Speaker 2: know you can be bothered voting in half the people

869
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Speaker 2: are on council alreadiot, because yesterday just one decision was

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Speaker 2: and this was not just one meeting. They've had god

871
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Speaker 2: knows how many meetings over the years. But yesterday's back

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Speaker 2: Toning your prebble for a catch up after right in

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Speaker 2: the studio. Now with Flybys, you'll be aware this Flybys

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881
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884
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885
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Speaker 2: For goodness sake, It's a simple and easy way to

886
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Speaker 2: earn those rewards every time you scan your club card

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890
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: use your New World dollars however you like. And if

891
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892
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Speaker 2: automatically switch to New World dollars so you won't miss

893
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: out on the rewards. And you don't even need to

894
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Speaker 2: get a new club card because your current card's going

895
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Speaker 2: to work. How good they've ticked all the boxes for you,

896
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Speaker 2: a new world, making it easier to save, with every

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Speaker 2: shop giving you more rewards and more freedom as of tomorrow,

898
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Speaker 2: pasking Tomorrow is November. Can you believe that? Seven twenty four?

899
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: Good bit of reading, by the way to be had

900
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: as a thing called the Election Study. Now it seems

901
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: to have been published in various outlets this week, and

902
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: it's been produced by a bunch of political scientists. It

903
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: is designed, I assume, to give us some insight into

904
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: what we did this time last year in the election.

905
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: So it talked to voters about issues and intent and

906
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: in that it's fascinating but also a complete waste of time. Now,

907
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: the intent was about change. It's a change election. The

908
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: economy was shot the price of everything was a thing,

909
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Speaker 2: so we wanted change. So far, so accurate. That's what

910
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Speaker 2: the report tells us now places weight and I'm not

911
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: sure why on what we say around voting intent, for example, health,

912
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Speaker 2: we want more money for health, we said, do we really?

913
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Speaker 2: I mean really? Don't we always want more for health?

914
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: Haven't we said we want more for health literally forever?

915
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: And given we have, why don't we vote for the

916
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: party that promises more for health, which more often than

917
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: not would be a left leaning party, wouldn't it. The

918
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: reason we don't is because what we say and what

919
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: we do are not always the same thing, of course,

920
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: and also along with the desire for more of everything,

921
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: we are of course cognizant in our quiet moments of

922
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: the cost hence the economy was shot, hence our vote

923
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Speaker 2: for change. Now, the report, and this is where it

924
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: sort of becomes pointless, looks at the current government's mandate,

925
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: what we wanted when we voted, and what we've ended

926
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Speaker 2: up with now. The mistake they make in putting a

927
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Speaker 2: microscope on all of this is we each only have

928
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: one vote. It's a very small, very blunt instrument. If

929
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Speaker 2: we had one hundred votes, we could analyze ourselves to

930
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: we were blue in the face, sort of like a

931
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: shopping list. The more dollars you have, the more things

932
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: you can buy. Our vote, in fact, buys virtually nothing

933
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: other than the knowledge we supported or didn't the winning team.

934
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Speaker 2: By the time our singular vote is put to well

935
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Speaker 2: in the big barrel, we call an election, and as

936
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Speaker 2: it turns out, three parties won that election last time,

937
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: and then they do a deal to be able to

938
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Speaker 2: work together and not scrap for three years because we

939
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: voted for MMP. Of course, what we wanted, what we

940
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Speaker 2: expected versus what we actually got may or may not

941
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Speaker 2: have a passing resemblance to each other. A vote if

942
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: you want a simple and yet I would argue more

943
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: accurate assessment is simply a reaction to a right and

944
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: wrong direction of travel at any given time in a country.

945
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: Anything more specific, you're dreaming Johnny come Lately, winging Mike

946
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: residences combined with counsel of put the restrictions on Western

947
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Springs to make it uneconomic. The long term plan has

948
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: worked well, it seems well now it hasn't. They were

949
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Speaker 2: losing money. Another victory for the nimbi's Mike Mike funny

950
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: are health employees who work from home happily until they

951
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: need to be face to face for thirty two dollar canterface.

952
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: You want to pick on the housing? What have we

953
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: got on housing? Forecasts from the bank for next year

954
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: Westpac eight percent, another five percent in twenty twenty six.

955
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Speaker 2: That's growth A and Z four and a half percent

956
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: next year, five percent in twenty twenty six. This sounds

957
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: relatively normal to me. Kiwe Bank five percent for the

958
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Speaker 2: rest of the year, seven percent next year. They're bullish.

959
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: Infometrics quote unquote a really difficult balancing act trying to

960
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: forecast grow up here in for metrics, you're not prepared

961
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Speaker 2: to give us a number. Get out of the forecast

962
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: in game dam when your phone rings don't go oh

963
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: friendly deffinitly for pack a number.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't want to.

965
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Speaker 2: Pack a number. Whyane Brown? Can you stand a bit

966
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: of Wayne Brown? The Auckland Mere? You want a bit

967
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: of Wayne Hey? Probably split the audience a bit there,

968
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Speaker 2: Big Wayne's up next here on the mic Hosking Breakfast.

969
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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show. You can trust The mic Hosking Breakfast

970
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential commercial

971
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: and rural news. Togs Hed been to be appreal.

972
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: For a catch up a couple of things going on

973
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: with her and from me enough. I'll come back later.

974
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: But I was really about podcast yesterday. The number of

975
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Speaker 2: podcasts in the world is astonishing. Anyway, more shortly, some alarming,

976
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: if not shocking figures around our public transport in Auckland,

977
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Speaker 2: a service with already an appalling reputation. Of course, in

978
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Speaker 2: terms of delivery, we now know they are dealing with

979
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: more than ninety three incidents a week. In terms of

980
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Speaker 2: security issues on the trains, that's an average of eighty three.

981
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Speaker 2: We're talking assaults and robberies and thefts. Now, what's being

982
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 2: done about this is the Mayor of Auckland is Wayne Brown.

983
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: Of course there's Wayne Morning, Good morning. These numbers. Is

984
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: this actually you or is it Auckland Transport or is

985
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: it the contractor or is it all of us?

986
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Speaker 13: It's probably a reflection of society unfortunately. I mean in

987
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 13: the pavy yesterday there's shocking numbers of the kids who

988
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 13: aren't going to school, and I mean none of them

989
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 13: are going to angwered up to be tradesmen or doctors.

990
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 13: And so that's frightening as well. So there is an

991
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 13: issue right across the whole of society and people get

992
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 13: shot and constibly in a bar. You know, it's and

993
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 13: transport is reflecting that. I mean one of the drawba's

994
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 13: about them increasing their percentage of people on catching on transport,

995
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 13: which is good that more people are getting on buses,

996
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Speaker 13: but more of the wrong people as well as the

997
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Speaker 13: right people as well obviously.

998
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: But that's your problem though, isn't it. Because you want

999
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: to encourage public transport and people get a reputation which

1000
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: it already has a reputation that's dangerous and use it.

1001
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 13: There's a problem, There's no question about that. And I

1002
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 13: mean it's not as if at it's got a particularly

1003
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 13: high public appreciation levels that they aim for city and

1004
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 13: got twenty four and then they told we've got a

1005
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 13: twenty percent increase to twenty eight, which is still not

1006
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 13: very good.

1007
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 18: Mate.

1008
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: But the.

1009
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Speaker 13: Right across the whole of our society things have got bad.

1010
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 13: There are sort of you know, the sort of people

1011
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 13: that are going to supermarkets and refuse to pay and

1012
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 13: walk out and everyone's too scared to hit them. Then

1013
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 13: they're on a bus and saying telling a bus driverers.

1014
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 13: Oh we're not going to pay. What are you going

1015
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 13: to do about it? And I mean the bus driver's

1016
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 13: a poor bus driver. Where we've just spent six million

1017
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 13: dollars set aside, and it's being spent right now putting

1018
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 13: protection around a bus driver. A bus drivers are a

1019
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 13: moderately lowly paid job of doing, providing a service for

1020
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 13: all of us. And it shouldn't be dangerous. I mean,

1021
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 13: the whole thing's appalling. And you can't afford to have

1022
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 13: a policeman on every bus, but the police have agreed

1023
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 13: to be more at the hubs, at the transport hubs

1024
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 13: and occasionally get on the bus. I said, you can

1025
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 13: get on free just right. You're seen on the buses regularly,

1026
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 13: you know, just so that people except that there might

1027
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 13: be a bust.

1028
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: So is that the answer? I mean, there's one of

1029
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: several answers that I can work out. Either you get

1030
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 2: the cops on the bus or security on the bus

1031
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: or the trains or whatever the case may be. Or

1032
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: you cage the driver up, or you train the driver

1033
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: to defend or do something about it. But that's all cost,

1034
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1035
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 13: We have spent them, We've pushed us out of the money,

1036
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 13: and we are caging the driver to protect him, but

1037
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 13: you can't cage every passenger. And the risks on the

1038
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 13: buses are actually statistically about the same as a risk

1039
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 13: on the street, just getting risk. No, it's not good.

1040
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 13: But what I'm saying is essentially we've got to actually

1041
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 13: learn to behave better.

1042
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a good idea, wouldn't.

1043
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: That be great?

1044
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 13: But well, well, I think the judges are going to

1045
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 13: be tough enough, but too much understanding. I had a

1046
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 13: bad trial too, or something or other.

1047
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: You know, Well, that's that central government, doesn't it. While

1048
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: I've got you this speedway thing, how long, lay, laborious

1049
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: and boring. Was a seven hour meeting over why like

1050
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: a record park for God's sake?

1051
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 13: Well, I didn't enjoy it, and so it was brought

1052
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 13: to a clothes using some systems and then upset people

1053
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 13: because they said they need the chance to speak. I mean,

1054
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 13: essentially the speedway. I'm a great favor of getting more

1055
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 13: use out of what we've got, and I'm happy to

1056
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 13: put up with people from rugby league saying we can't

1057
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 13: plan the same paddox as rugby union. I'm going you

1058
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 13: can't at the same time, but you can't after each other.

1059
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 13: And we've got why Cerracer Park, which is an area

1060
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 13: where people don't really complain about the noise, and the

1061
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 13: operator's happy to go there. The guy puts his money

1062
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 13: into it and actually takes it. And where there be

1063
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 13: eleven million dollars spent tarting a place up and we're

1064
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 13: giving them a proper track and decent toilets and things.

1065
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 13: It's kind of like it's moderately sensible to me. And

1066
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 13: of course, of course, if you do anything, you piss

1067
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 13: somebody else, and so that you know. The people don't

1068
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 13: like any change. And I mean Queen Street used to

1069
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 13: be a farm, but it's not any more oldly enough,

1070
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 13: change happens.

1071
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: Probably better to be frank, have you been down Queen

1072
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: Street lately?

1073
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 13: Well, we won't go there. I do go down Queen

1074
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 13: Street at all, and but it could be a lot

1075
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 13: nicer and and change happens, and there's been I quite

1076
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 13: like Speedway, and I've got mates have deeply involved out

1077
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 13: and we're not canceling speed They've given them a place

1078
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 13: which for thirty years. They've got a list there with

1079
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 13: an operation along its along with stock cars become a

1080
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 13: center for that open wheel sport may eleven million bills

1081
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 13: out of the savings from not having a couple across it.

1082
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 13: Western Springs and something else, but I don't know what

1083
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 13: it is a Western Springs, but it'll be something else there.

1084
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 13: And it was just kind of like we've got to

1085
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 13: we're going to move on sometimes and it's just hard

1086
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 13: to do anything. Orkland. I think we've got to be

1087
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 13: a bit more happy about This is a positive change

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Speaker 13: and it guarantees those people security for thirty years in

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Speaker 13: an area where people will be more happy about it

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Speaker 13: in my view.

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Speaker 2: So one goold catch up with you appreciate very much,

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Speaker 2: Wayne Brown, Mayor of Aukland. It is seventeen minutes away

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Speaker 2: from eight PSK. The foreshere on sea bed. Let me

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Speaker 2: come back to that in a couple of moments, in

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Speaker 2: more details, so you'll be aware of what the government

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Speaker 2: is trying to do. And we've got the and this

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00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: goes back to the New Zeland initiative, the report they

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Speaker 2: wrote on a sort of creeping Supreme Court in this country.

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Speaker 2: So the government are looking to take the law back

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Speaker 2: to what it was in twenty eleven. The intent of

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Speaker 2: the law back to twenty eleven. At this stage they're

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Speaker 2: into the submission phase. Don brash On behalf of Hobson's

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00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: choice was in front of the crowd yesterday and along

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Speaker 2: with the whole bunch of people who don't like it.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll work you through that detail shortly sixteen to.

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Speaker 1: Two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be right thirteen away from it. So under the

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Speaker 2: law passed in two thousand eleven previous government, two conditions

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00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: had to be met. This is the foreshore and sea bed.

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00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: If you want to go back far enough, this is

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Speaker 2: the labor government of Helen Clark, the March, the formation

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00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: of the Maray Party, all that stuff. Under the law

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00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: passed in twenty eleven, two conditions had to be met

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Speaker 2: before the CMT was recognized. The appellant group or the

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Speaker 2: applicant group must hold in accordance with Tea Hunger and

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: applications or applicants must have exclusively used and occupied the

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Speaker 2: area we're talking about without substantial interruption since eighteen forty.

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Speaker 2: So that was the law. Some people didn't like the law,

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Speaker 2: so they went off to the court. The Court of

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Speaker 2: Appeal criticized the second condition, and this is why so

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00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: many people have trouble with courts as they are at

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Speaker 2: the moment, because the incursions into an area by third

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Speaker 2: party since eighteen forty would deprive a group of customary

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Speaker 2: marine title and would be inconsistent with the treaty. Why tongey,

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Speaker 2: they say, But they aren't the ultimate court. Who's the

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00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: ultimate court the government. So what the current government are doing,

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Speaker 2: and this is one of their more contentious moves, is

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Speaker 2: simply restoring the intent of the law as it was

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Speaker 2: stated back in twenty eleven. In other words, it is

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00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: just the government being the government, and Brash was one

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00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 2: of the few who were sort of supporting that idea.

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Speaker 2: And then again you can argue, well, I don't know

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00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 2: what the point of having all these submissions is, because

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00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, a government will do

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00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: what again government does, and they're entitled to do so

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00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: because we voted for them. Simple as that. Mike Wayne

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00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: seems to go off on tangents, same as Donald just

1139
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: saying we notice that too. It's a weave. It's the

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Speaker 2: brown weave. I don't you hear about it very often?

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00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: But the brown, the brown weavers, and I think the

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00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: vibe we're getting from and it is a vibe I

1143
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: think I was getting a vibe. The vibe we're getting

1144
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: from Wayne is you just want to be happier, and

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00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: no matter what you do, you're going to piss someone off,

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00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: quote unquote, and you just want to be happier.

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00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 19: And nobody really defines happy, go lucky more than Wayne Brown.

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00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I've said for ages.

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Speaker 19: You want to you want about your picture dictionary illustration.

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Speaker 2: Right, I want to see a person skipping through life.

1151
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: It's Wayne. I'm skipping through Yeah, the whole thing. No

1152
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: one knows. He virtually came out of Disneyland. He's just like,

1153
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, I feel lighter just for having just having

1154
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: him on the program, just being in his presence for

1155
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: a couple of moments. Just it uplifts us all again.

1156
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: It pissed some people off some other time, but just

1157
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: go be happier. Turn away from it.

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Speaker 1: Costel breakfast with the range Rover Villa news towards.

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Speaker 2: Dead be sitting away from mate. So we've got good

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00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: good news from Motorsport. Hayden Patten is the first New

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Speaker 2: Zealander ever to be invited to compete into the Race

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Speaker 2: of Champions. Now, what's the Race of Champions as an

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00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: event that started in the eighties originally for rally drivers

1164
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: went in to include though because the others got on

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00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: board and they thought this is a bit of fun.

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Speaker 2: I'll be into it. Schumark has been on it, Vettel

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Speaker 2: Alonzo Jensen Button. Next year it's coming to Australia, first

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Speaker 2: time in the Southern Hemisphere, so that's exciting. Sebastian Lobe

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Speaker 2: is also going to feature against Padden who was with

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Speaker 2: us Hayden Morning. Yeah, mord Way, very exciting, definitely.

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Speaker 20: It's something one of those things that you always watched

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Speaker 20: as a kid, so to be part of it's pretty surreal.

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Speaker 2: What's the format, what literally will you be doing and

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Speaker 2: where will it be done?

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Speaker 20: So it's based in a stadium. It's very similar to

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Speaker 20: super special stages that we're having rallies where you have

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Speaker 20: two cars up against each other racing alongside at a

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Speaker 20: big stadium. You've got a crossover bridge, so the cars

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Speaker 20: crossover and basically the first car across the finished nine

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Speaker 20: wins and it's an elimination process, so all the cars

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Speaker 20: are eliminated.

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Speaker 2: You that with one winner, fantastic your car or their car.

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Speaker 2: It's a sort of equal cars, I take it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, they get along three different types of cars. So

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Speaker 20: when you're racing your opponent, you're in the same cars

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Speaker 20: as each other, but throughout the you're constantly changing cars,

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Speaker 20: so you can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are they radically different cars? Do you know?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: They change every year. Last year they had sex on

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Speaker 20: the horse power rally cross cars. They had some single

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Speaker 20: seed of cars. You've seen rally cars in the past.

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Speaker 20: It's a huge priority, so we won't know what cars

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Speaker 20: we're driving exactly until closer to the event.

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Speaker 2: And so what we've got so far Sebastian Libes and

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Speaker 2: he saw he sort of knows what he's doing, doesn't he.

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Speaker 20: He's one that a few times as well. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 20: you're up again. It's literally the best of the best.

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Speaker 20: See they've already got Sebastian Vitel and Mixed Schumacher, Peter Solberg,

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Speaker 20: Jamie wind Cap and they'll be up to twenty drivers,

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Speaker 20: so yeah, there'll be a lot of top names.

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Speaker 2: So that's incredible. See wind caup. So you're in a supercar,

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Speaker 2: you're entire I don't know how much racing is outside

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Speaker 2: of supercars. But how adaptable? Is it a skill to

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Speaker 2: be an adaptable driver as opposed to just being brilliant

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Speaker 2: at one thing.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, Like I think Shane van Gisberg is probably

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Speaker 20: the prime example, and that'll be an adaptable across many

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Speaker 20: forms of motorsport. But it's a good skill to have

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Speaker 20: because it means under different conditions in the sport you

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Speaker 20: can adapt quite easily. But yeah, it suits some people

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Speaker 20: more than others. I'd say it probably suits more a

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Speaker 20: Raleigh background because the type of stage and setting that

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Speaker 20: it's in is similar to what we do in our sport,

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Speaker 20: so it's a bit harder for their guys.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Where are you at in the moment? What are

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Speaker 2: you doing?

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Speaker 20: Well, we've got one roundless in New Zealand Rally Championship

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Speaker 20: with Rally fun Ra next week and then we're into

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Speaker 20: our off season preparing for next year. So yeah, we've

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Speaker 20: had a pretty good season this year, so it's about

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Speaker 20: how we build on that and make it bigger and

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Speaker 20: better for next year.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Always good to talk to you. I appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. Hayde and Patten. That, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: next year and the event is in Australia, it'll be

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Speaker 2: in Sydney, and so you've got some serious talent there,

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Speaker 2: which is super exciting. Yeah, the podcast thing interested me

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from USK because we're catching up with

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Speaker 2: Antonio privial shortly. She has a podcast. Everyone has a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean literally everyone's got a podcast, just

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Speaker 2: because you've got your different platforms. Right and on the

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Speaker 2: Apple platform, which was just the one I was reading

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Speaker 2: about yesterday, there's over one hundred million podcast episodes, one

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Speaker 2: hundred million podcast episodes, but there are only two point

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Speaker 2: seven three million podcasts, so that's the episodes of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: So two point seven three million podcasts. There are seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten new podcasts, not episodes, new podcasts just

1239
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Speaker 2: added yesterday. Just yesterday, there were seven hundred and ten

1240
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Speaker 2: new podcasts boom out of nowhere. There were eighteen thousand,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and ninety four podcasts added in just the

1242
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Speaker 2: last month. Now I'm assuming, like all platforms, Apple churn

1243
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Speaker 2: them and boot them off. There were sixty three thousand,

1244
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Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy episodes removed manual or manually or

1245
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: at a medically over the last thirty days, so they

1246
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: are dropping like flies. So the point being that they

1247
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: were making in this very fascinating article I was reading

1248
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: anyone could do a podcast, and clearly they are. Guess

1249
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: how long most podcasts last? One episode? A single episode

1250
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Speaker 2: if you can get past one.

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Speaker 19: So I feel quite good now because I'm up to today.

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 19: It'll be episode three, one hundred and sixty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And although I joke about your pot the re ramp,

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: and I've never heard it, you're You're a veteran of

1255
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: the industry. Correct, You're a survivor and a king maker.

1256
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Speaker 2: You're a change maker Glenn in the podcast world anyway.

1257
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Speaker 2: Antonio Prebble shortly.

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Speaker 1: The Big News, Bold Opinions, The Mike Hosking, Breakfast with Vita,

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News tog said.

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Speaker 15: B a long time.

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Speaker 2: Get a seven past day catch up time with Antonio Prebble.

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Speaker 2: She's recorded the second season of Double Park, which is

1263
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Speaker 2: out now. She has the second season of her award

1264
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Speaker 2: winning podcast out very soon What Matters Most, And also

1265
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Speaker 2: I am told three other television shows in development. So

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Speaker 2: Antonio Preble.

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Speaker 3: Is with us.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you, thanks for having me. Do

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Speaker 2: you know Craig Parker I do, right. So we had

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Speaker 2: Craig Parker on the other day and he was running

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Speaker 2: the same line that you are with the secret television

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Speaker 2: project thing.

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Speaker 8: It's a good line, it is a good one, could

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Speaker 8: mean anything.

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Speaker 2: And he gave nothing away. So can you give anything away?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'll give you more than Craig Parker.

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Speaker 2: There you go about that.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

1279
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: So these projects are these real projects that are going

1280
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: to come to fruition or we don't know.

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 8: Look, we really hope.

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Speaker 6: So so my husband Dan Musgrove is a writer by

1283
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 6: trade and me. He's also an actor, but he almost

1284
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 6: exclusively writes now. So since we've been together and it's

1285
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 6: kind of one of those pivoting during COVID times, we've

1286
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 6: started writing together and creating projects together. So that's why

1287
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: they really are happening, because I've physically done the writing

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01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 6: of them.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, look, I can tell you we've got a few.

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Speaker 6: One is sort of a quirky black comedy about Funnily enough,

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 6: they've all got leads for women sort of in their

1292
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 6: late thirties early forties. It's strange how we've said to

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Speaker 6: be focusing on that. But one is about, yeah, a

1294
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 6: mother who's not coping at all with her life, and

1295
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 6: goes to quite a sort of a modern retelling of

1296
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: the Doll's house actually of insence the house and then

1297
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 6: ones are really kind of awful psychological thriller murdery thing

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Speaker 6: that whenever.

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Speaker 8: We work on it, I'm like, why are we doing this?

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Speaker 6: Because I don't like watching things like that because I

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Speaker 6: find them too full.

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Speaker 8: On and violent.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, that's another one. And then we've just started

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Speaker 6: working on like a horror movie.

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Speaker 8: Again, which I don't want, so I don't know why

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Speaker 8: why I'm sort of focusing on that.

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Speaker 2: So do you set aside time with your husband to

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Speaker 2: do this? Is this like work time? And we'll start now,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have lunch and then after lunch we'll sit

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Speaker 2: down and then we'll develop something.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, we do.

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Speaker 6: And with some of those projects we have other collaborators

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Speaker 6: as well, which kind of actually makes it easier in

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Speaker 6: terms of what you're saying, calming out time, because you're

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Speaker 6: involving other.

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01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 8: People schedules, whereas if it's just you.

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Speaker 6: And your own house, it's quite easy for it to

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01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 6: sort of bleed out into other things. But yeah, we

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Speaker 6: try to keep it pretty pretty highly organized. But the

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Speaker 6: good thing about working with someone you live with is

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Speaker 6: you can do a lot of it after the children

1322
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Speaker 6: are in bed and.

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Speaker 2: You and you got married. This year we did. That's

1324
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Speaker 2: going well.

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Speaker 8: So far, so good.

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Speaker 6: I think we're six months and so I don't know

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Speaker 6: what that means in.

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Speaker 8: Terms of like the material later it wouldn't even be cotton.

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01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know what it is.

1330
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Speaker 2: What's two of view of the televisual landscape at the

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Speaker 2: moment given the media is so fluxy?

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Speaker 8: Yes, fluxy.

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Speaker 6: I like that word for it. Fluxy is sort of

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01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: better than some other words you might use, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: Can I borrow your word and say it's fluxy?

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: It is flux?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm someone I never I'm an optimistic person,

1339
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 6: and I really try not to kind of buy into

1340
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 6: general rhetoric about how bad things are because historically, for

1341
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 6: me personally, I've had times when apparently it's really busy

1342
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 6: out there and I've had no work, or also when

1343
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 6: it's a desert out there, but for whatever reason, I'm

1344
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 6: actually pretty busy. But generally speaking, it isn't looking great,

1345
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 6: and people were hoping for a bit of a better

1346
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four than twenty twenty three, and that did

1347
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 6: not happen at all. And now again there's whispers of

1348
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 6: maybe twenty twenty five getting being better, but.

1349
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Speaker 8: It's quite hard to it's just changed.

1350
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Speaker 6: It's a lot harder to fund those premium style shows,

1351
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 6: which was The Outrageous Fortune or The West Side, which

1352
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 6: is about eight million dollars per season. It just doesn't

1353
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 6: really happen anymore under the New Zealand funding model.

1354
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: So just to explain it to people, so we go

1355
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: to New Zealand on air and you go, I've got

1356
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: west Side or whatever, and it's eight million dollars. That

1357
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: just that's not a thing, not really, there is not

1358
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: eight million dollars to do something grandiose.

1359
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Speaker 6: If you want to make something that costs around eight

1360
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 6: million dollars, you generally speaking have to have international support,

1361
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 6: so some sort of funding from an international body, and

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Speaker 6: it's pretty hard to get.

1363
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Speaker 2: So that's that's a funny thing, isn't it, because presumably

1364
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Speaker 2: that's a hit and miss equation. It's a risk at

1365
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: eight million dollars. But that all the great stuff we

1366
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: talk of is the stuff that may be exactly and

1367
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: may it made the difference. So what are we left

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Speaker 2: with then? Just small?

1369
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Speaker 6: Yeah, around so I think around around three million dollars,

1370
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Speaker 6: and Double Parks was made for three million dollars. It

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Speaker 6: was made even less for the first season, right, first

1372
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Speaker 6: season two weeks. So you know, you can make shows

1373
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 6: for that amount of money, but they aren't just that

1374
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Speaker 6: that premium level or the hour long dramas.

1375
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Speaker 8: You know, you can't really make it out.

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: So the fact that Double Park has got its second

1377
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: season is must be good news all by itself. Yes,

1378
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: in a world where much doesn't get a second season.

1379
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely. We were so thrilled that it did.

1380
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Speaker 2: And yeah, so where does it go then? So as

1381
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: an actor, you get your part, you go right because

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Speaker 2: I think the last time you're on this program, you

1383
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: talked about it with Double Pik was going to be

1384
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: a thing. So it go season season two? So then

1385
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: what do you see? Do you see season three, four, five, six,

1386
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: and seven? And it becomes like Friends and goes down

1387
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: in television history as one of the greats or who

1388
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: would know?

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 8: Who would know?

1390
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 6: So where we're at at the moment as we are, well,

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Speaker 6: I say we like I have ownership of it.

1392
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 8: The production company Kevin and co.

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 6: They're applying for development funding from New Zealand on Air,

1394
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 6: which means they get a much smaller bag of money

1395
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 6: to write some scripts and develop the stories for a

1396
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 6: potential season three. And then after that development money has

1397
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 6: been used, you basically use the materials that you've developed

1398
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Speaker 6: with that development money to try to apply for full funded.

1399
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Speaker 2: In fact, you've got season one and two help you

1400
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: or hinder you? Or do they go well, you should

1401
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: be on your own, go out and get some commercial money.

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Speaker 8: Now that's a really good question.

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01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 6: Actually, I think it's probably a bit of both, and

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 6: I think out the production company probably is potentially looking

1405
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 6: off shore to get a little bit of help to

1406
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 6: make the picture look a bit more attractive. Yeah, it's

1407
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 6: a shame, isn't it, Because you think, oh great, it's

1408
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 6: it's working. Well, this is what people are watching. Surely

1409
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 6: we want to make things that people are watching. Let's

1410
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 6: give them another go.

1411
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just doesn't work that way, doesn't It's

1412
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: a funny game. Listen to hold on There a brief

1413
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: break more in the moment Antonio Prebble thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio Power

1415
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: by news talks.

1416
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: It be oh no, it's not okay, she's where we're

1417
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: off here and she's and she's she's correcting a mistake

1418
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: I've made that. Actually, I blame the production team. Sixteen

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Speaker 2: minutes exactly, sixteen minutes past eight, Antonio prebul is the guest.

1420
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Speaker 2: Now the podcast, the award winning What Matters Most has

1421
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: actually come out season three, not season two, So you

1422
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: you have. I gave before the News some podcast stats,

1423
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: and there are millions of podcasts stats. There are millions

1424
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: of podcasts in the world, and the most common episode

1425
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: is episode one. Because most podcasts never get past episode one.

1426
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. Well it's not for the people who never

1427
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: got past episode one, but for you to be into

1428
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: season three, you obviously got onto something. What's the recipe?

1429
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: Because I had this ongoing discussion with management. Management here

1430
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: are big in podcasts. They think podcasts is where it's at,

1431
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: and the future of the One of the most popular

1432
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: podcasts in the country is mine. Yeah, but mine isn't

1433
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: a podcast. It's just this radio program.

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01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 8: I've always can I ask you a question about that?

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01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 6: Then, because I've often wondered this with radio shows that

1436
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 6: are podcasts how did What's what's the difference between couldn't agree?

1437
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: More excellent questions? An excellent question, And that's what I

1438
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: say to them. I said, it's not a podcast. Ago,

1439
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: yes it is, And so we put out this whole

1440
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: We put out segments of this program as a podcast,

1441
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: and there's a whole program podcast which is literally what

1442
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: we're doing now that will turn out to be a podcast.

1443
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: Got Sha, I argue it's not a podcast. I argue,

1444
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: this is what it is, and the fact you can

1445
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: get it somewhere else doesn't make it anything different than

1446
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: what it is currently, which is a radio show. Gotcha

1447
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: am I right?

1448
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have I would think,

1449
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 8: I agree with you.

1450
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 6: It's a radio show that's available on different platforms to

1451
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 6: listen whenever you would like.

1452
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: You can't tell the management out there there.

1453
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 6: But the good thing is it means then you can

1454
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 6: go on for the radio awards and the podcast awards, right, we.

1455
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: Haven't thought about them? Is that how you become award winning?

1456
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: So what's your recipe for successful podcast? And given in

1457
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: my limited experience in listening to them, some of them

1458
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: indulge themselves too much. They go on for too long

1459
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: and they seem to have this idea that if you

1460
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,839
Speaker 2: talk for three or four hours, we'll cover all the topics.

1461
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: Whereas I've got you can find this morning in Tonia

1462
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: prepple to eleven minutes. It's eleven minutes, says the beginning

1463
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: a middle in a Need.

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yep.

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01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 6: I think it's about first of all, doing something that

1466
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 6: you genuinely care about, like that you're passionate about, that

1467
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 6: you're curious about, that you're personally really invested in, because

1468
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 6: that will first of all get you past episode one.

1469
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 6: But then I think it keeps your vision quite quite clear,

1470
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 6: so it's not sort of waffling off on the side

1471
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 6: of things. And then I think you're absolutely right about

1472
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 6: the time. So Jackie, me and Jackie and our producer Hannah.

1473
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: With Jackie McGuire Jackie maguire.

1474
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 6: My friend and clinical psychologist extraordinaire. We're very conscious that

1475
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 6: people are giving us their time, and so we want

1476
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 6: to give them a return on their investment.

1477
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 8: So we always try to have our podcast less.

1478
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 6: Than an hour, and actually our new structure plan going

1479
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 6: forward is that hopefully they'll be half an hour to

1480
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 6: forty minutes, and that within that forty minutes, it will

1481
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 6: be really useful practical stuff. So the style of our

1482
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 6: podcast is that it's a conversation between me and Jackie.

1483
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 6: I'm sort of taking the role of what our listeners

1484
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 6: would be and asking questions to Jackie, offering her expertise

1485
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 6: and advice and tools as a clinical psychologist, offering them

1486
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 6: to our listeners to help them understand.

1487
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 8: Various aspects of their life.

1488
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 6: A bit more so, we really think of the podcast

1489
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 6: as a resource, and we want to give people as much,

1490
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 6: you know, bang for their buck, so to speak, in

1491
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 6: that amount of time.

1492
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, what are the metrics? Do you look at the metrics?

1493
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 8: I actually don't.

1494
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, if we have a wonderful producer, Hannah, she's all

1495
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 6: over that, I'm to be honest, I'm.

1496
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: If she just so it's going really well.

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, she does says nice things like that, keep doing

1498
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 6: what you're doing, gals. For me, I'm less concerned with that,

1499
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 6: particularly because well, I mean, one great thing about podcasts

1500
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 6: in relation in comparison to making TV.

1501
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 8: Is work and versus workout is so much better.

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01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I do sort of, you know, two to

1503
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 6: three hours prep for an episode, and then the actual

1504
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 6: recording might take about an hour and a half and

1505
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 6: then someone else does the editing, and then you have

1506
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 6: an episode of a show.

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01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: Can I just say, as a seasoned professional in this

1508
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: industry for question podcaster, well, not just as a podcaster,

1509
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: but that ratio of prep to delivery is very rare.

1510
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: What you're good on you for working hard, because what

1511
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: you'll find is if you work hard, you get the

1512
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: product out the other end. And too many people in

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: this industry just rock up five minutes before and think

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Speaker 2: that if they just go something will come out of it.

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Speaker 8: Interesting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that is interesting because Yeah, even though I'm taking

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Speaker 6: the role of again the listener who theoretically needs to

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Speaker 6: be who knows nothing about the topic, for me, I

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Speaker 6: feel like I want to. I really want to have

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Speaker 6: an understanding of it, so I know what questions to ask,

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 6: what might be the interesting questions to ask, and also

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Speaker 6: how I can relate to that topic bring.

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Speaker 8: My experience to it.

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Speaker 2: So thanks, interesting, Thanks my season, Take the advice or not?

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Speaker 2: One last question? Is that an aura ring you're wearing?

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Speaker 8: Oh, it's a knockoff version.

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Speaker 2: Well does it work?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Does it read anything?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: It reads things.

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Speaker 6: But I sometimes wonder like if it's it does read

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Speaker 6: my steps and it tells me my sleep. But sometimes

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Speaker 6: I have been up with the boys overnight and a

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Speaker 6: what did you.

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Speaker 2: Get last night? For a score for your sleep? Do

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Speaker 2: you know?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You don't have to look at your phone? Is it

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Speaker 2: in the nineties to get a ninety in a crown,

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Speaker 2: A five and a crown?

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Speaker 6: I don't mind waiting while I just open it. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 6: I got ninety three excellent, eight hours and thirty two minutes.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: No wonder you were so good this morning? That worked out?

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Speaker 2: Sarah was the seventy two and you got four hours sleep?

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Speaker 2: And I wonder if you was a boring I'm never

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Speaker 2: having a bed. I'm just fascinated by all rings. That's

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Speaker 2: all I can't.

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Speaker 8: I can't imagine it's your vibe.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no it isn't, but it is my wife's. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: listen to joy to see you, thanks, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: can you repeat the name of the podcast? What Matters Most?

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Speaker 2: And double parkeds at television program By the way, Mike

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Speaker 2: Layton's podcast is the only one I've ever listened to.

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Speaker 2: Whilst I mean, obviously Lighton's the first cab off the rank.

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Speaker 2: We love light and everyone loves Layton Stewart. But there's

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Speaker 15: All the people who were texting and wanted to know

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Speaker 15: the name of my one?

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Speaker 2: What was the name of your one? The rewrap the

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Speaker 2: rerap Yes, Episode three, six hundred and fifty two, correct

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Speaker 2: and growing.

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Speaker 19: And I've also done just about as many episodes of

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Speaker 19: news Talk as he had been as well.

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Speaker 2: You see your another podcast? Yeah, looking up?

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Speaker 15: Why have one when you can hear too?

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Speaker 2: That's what I always say, or maybe even three or

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Speaker 2: four budget day in the UK, Ron Little's all over.

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Speaker 2: He is with us from Britain after the News, which

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Speaker 2: is next here at news Talk.

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Speaker 3: Save.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews, the mic hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue

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Speaker 1: and use talks.

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Speaker 2: Head be budget day in the UK, Rishi lapped it up.

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Speaker 16: Britain's poorest pension has squeezed, welfare spending out of control

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Speaker 16: and a spree of tax rises. They promised the working

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Speaker 16: people of this country.

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Speaker 1: They would not do.

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Speaker 16: National insurance up, capital gains tax AH, inheritance tax AH,

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Speaker 16: energy taxes, AH, business rates, a first time buy a

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Speaker 16: stamp duty AH, pensions tax AH.

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Speaker 1: They have fiddle the figures, international correspondence with ins and

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Speaker 1: eye insurance. Peace of mind for New Zealand business Here

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Speaker 1: in the.

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Speaker 2: UK, ron little morning mate, is he with us or not?

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Speaker 2: I got him on here? Where's he gone? I come

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: back in just a couple of moments because I wanted

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Speaker 2: to find out whether it was pretty much as they

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Speaker 2: did it on the tin. Minimum wage, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is going to rise to twelve pounds and twenty one

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01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: so in our dollars it's twenty four ish dollars sort of.

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Speaker 2: The bus spiers and here's the interesting state about the busbiers.

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Speaker 2: Busper rising to three quid. So if you hop on

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Speaker 2: a bus in Britain, it's gone from two quid to

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Speaker 2: three quid. There are examples or exceptions single bus fears

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Speaker 2: in London, where Transport London will however, remain at a

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Speaker 2: pound seventy five, and those in Great Greater Manchester will

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Speaker 2: remain at two pounds. But and here's the thing. You

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Speaker 2: think of London in particular as a place of public transport.

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Speaker 2: If you think of any public transport system in the

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Speaker 2: world that works reasonably well, it must be Britain. So

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Speaker 2: how many people there are in Britain. There are sixty

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Speaker 2: seven million people in Britain. How many people you think

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Speaker 2: take the bus on a regular basis three three million,

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Speaker 2: sixty So three of sixty seven million people take the bus.

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Speaker 2: For goodness sake, have we got some sort of major

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Speaker 2: problem with the phone line or not? Okay us there

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Speaker 2: now Roderick, very good morning to you, good will and.

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Speaker 18: Me, how you doing very well?

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Speaker 2: My apologies? Some sort of dodgy phone system?

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Speaker 13: Was it?

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Speaker 2: As they described on the ten broadly speaking?

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Speaker 18: Well? But it was his problem for two reasons. Firstly economically,

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Speaker 18: in that it seems to be a budget which strangles aspiration,

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 18: entrepreneurship and striving. So it really hits at the people

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Speaker 18: who drive our economy, which is a small business owners

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Speaker 18: who are struck by this national insurance rise and will

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Speaker 18: find it difficult to cope. But also at the same

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Speaker 18: time it kind of hurts those who want to buy

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Speaker 18: their own house, who are in social housing, and she's

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Speaker 18: made that more difficult for working class people. And she's

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Speaker 18: also made more difficult for working class people to send

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Speaker 18: their kids to private school by pulling bat and indeed

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Speaker 18: as other tax on private schools. So there's that, But

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Speaker 18: there's also the political difficulty, which is that you know,

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Speaker 18: we were promised there will be no tax rises, whereas

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Speaker 18: she's increased the burden of taxes on the British public

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Speaker 18: to a record amount by the tune of some forty

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Speaker 18: billion quid. So those are the two problems which this

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Speaker 18: already deeply, deeply unpopular government is going to have to

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Speaker 18: wrestle with over the next four years.

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Speaker 2: Correct me if I wrong part of our argument as

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Speaker 2: the whole we didn't see the twenty two billion dollar hole,

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Speaker 2: big black hole, etc. Could you mount an argument that

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Speaker 2: if you voted labor with such alacrity such a short

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Speaker 2: time ago and what they delivered today was not what

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Speaker 2: you were expecting, or it is.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 18: You see, it would have been better had Labor said

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Speaker 18: going into the election on July the fourth, only a

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Speaker 18: few months ago, we're going to have to raise taxes.

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Speaker 18: Then they would have had the option. Having said that,

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Speaker 18: have been able to raise the top rate of income

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Speaker 18: tax very marginally, just by one or two percent, which

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Speaker 18: would have covered most of the bills which they've had

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Speaker 18: to pay through a kind of financial sicinery by pretending

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Speaker 18: that they're not resting taxes. So I think this doesn't

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 18: really please many of the lefties in that it's not

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Speaker 18: radical enough in that it didn't raise the taxes of

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Speaker 18: the really wealthy. It hasn't done much on capital gains tax.

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Speaker 18: It's done a little bit. But what it has done

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Speaker 18: is put a clamp on businesses, put a clamp on

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Speaker 18: those aspiring to do better for themselves. And as a consequence,

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Speaker 18: plenty of economies have been coming out today and saying, well, indeed,

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Speaker 18: the Office for a Budget Responsibility has said, you know,

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Speaker 18: this reduces the degree to which we expect the British

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Speaker 18: economy to grow within the next five years. So they've

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Speaker 18: had to level it down a bit. It's already been

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Speaker 18: called therefore a kind of failure by the official body.

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Speaker 2: Is this simply grabbing money from one person giving it

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Speaker 2: to another the NHS? Does any of it go to paydown?

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Speaker 2: Do you ever talk about a surplus versus a deficit

1695
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: in Britain or is that just not something you deal

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Speaker 2: with You just run permanently and.

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Speaker 18: Di the conservative past Conservative government didn't talk too much

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 18: about that, and labor never talks about it. But you've

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01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 18: hit on a crucial point, which is, as one other

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01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 18: economists pointed out, this is a budget which is for

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01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 18: the public sector and against the private sector. So there

1702
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 18: will be money poured down the ever gaping more of

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01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 18: the National Health Service. There will probably be some more

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 18: money for education. But what they're where the money has

1705
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 18: been taken away is from the private syc from small

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 18: businesses and indeed from large businesses and such. So that

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01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 18: is that that is the real problem I think which

1708
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 18: they've got economically. The political problem I suspect they will

1709
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 18: face is that from their own side they're not radical

1710
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 18: enough and from the opposition is which is that you

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01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 18: like to us, you said you weren't going to raise

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01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 18: taxes and look what you've done.

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Speaker 2: Played a little clip before you came to Rod. I

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01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: don't have you heard it or not, but rishie, rishie

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01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: sounds it's so funny, isn't it? What the weight of

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: offers you? You're a He was great exactly freedom responsibility.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I think he rather prefers being in opposition,

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 18: and of course he won't be the opposition leader for

1719
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 18: very much longer. But no, I thought he was acute,

1720
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 18: sharp and kind of righteously angry about what this government,

1721
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 18: which is clearly had the worst hundred days of first

1722
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 18: one hundred days in office of any British government since

1723
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 18: the Second World War. So yeah, no, he was. He

1724
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 18: was on fire.

1725
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: We're any days away? Is it bed knock or general.

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01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:42,440
Speaker 18: Bad knock? By about sixty to forty, which is probably

1727
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 18: in the short term good news for the Tories and

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 18: maybe in the long term as well, because the trend

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Speaker 18: may be buck. You know, this government is so bad

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Speaker 18: that it may not last the usual two terms which

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Speaker 18: we have over here. I mean, it is so bad

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Speaker 18: and that are not maybe the grateful recipient of that.

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Speaker 18: They're trying to present a Mike as the new Margaret

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Speaker 18: Thatcher and really going to town on that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, do you remember it would be I'm guessing the

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Speaker 2: turned over so many leaders. I can't remember what contest

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Speaker 2: it was. But you were on this program a couple

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01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: of years ago and you said, it's a shame they

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: don't take Kimmy Bedknock seriously because there's somebody who could

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Speaker 2: lead the party. And here we are, Rod, a couple

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: of years later in Baying, you follow.

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Speaker 18: Well, yes, indeed, if only I could monetize this kind

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Speaker 18: of problemistication, that's that's the trouble. I think, Yeah, look,

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Speaker 18: she's she's she's not the easiest of people to get

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01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 18: on with, but then nor was Margaret Thatcher. And what

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Speaker 18: they're trying to do at the moment is cell is

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01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 18: self as a knock, as being a bit like tattering

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01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 18: that she got a science degree. And that's about it really.

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Speaker 18: But there are similarities. What I hope is that there

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01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 18: are similarities entirely on the economic front. But we'll see.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, go well, we'll catch up next week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much, Rod, little out of Britain for

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01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: us this morning. Geese is already eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That be, Mike, average years people on job seeker and

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01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: unemployment benefits are horrendous. How many hard working taxpayers are

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01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: required to pay for each of these people receiving a benefit.

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01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: It's interesting stat there are only two million of us

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Speaker 2: in this country. There's five million in total. Only two

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 2: million of us work, so there's two million people supporting

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: three million who don't work for a variety of different reasons,

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01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: not all unemployed, obviously, Mike h a budget crushing the

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01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: aspirational among us. Why does that have a vaguely familiar

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: ring to it? I understand I've been developing this theme

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01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: in my head for the last couple of months. Looking

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01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: at it's almost like they go to the same school

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01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: elban Ezi Adern slash Epkins slash Starmer. They talk the

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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: same way, they say the same things. They've all got

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: the same policy. Literally, like they pulled that there's a

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Speaker 2: manual somewhere how to be a labor government in a

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Speaker 2: West and democracy, because they all seem to be the same.

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Speaker 2: This morning's development in the Elber and Eezy scandal around

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: Quantus is his officers come out and said he never

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: called allan Joyce. Now, the key to that and they've

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01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: already picked it up in the media. Is not necessarily

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01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: suggesting it and this will the accusations come out of

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01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: a book if you've missed the story. Elbows upgrading himself

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 2: and his family left, right and centered with a former

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01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 2: CEO of Quantus, Allen Joyce. The office said he never

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01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 2: called Allan Joyce directly. So the obvious next question was, well,

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01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: what about the text and the email show us them.

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01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: They haven't come forward with any of those yet.

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: Quick question.

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Speaker 2: If the coolant light starts flashing on your car just

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Speaker 2: out of nowhere, you're just driving along, the coolant light

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01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: starts flashing on your car, and at that point you go,

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, how hard can it be to

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01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: have a look at the coolant. So you look at

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Speaker 2: the manual and you open up the menu, workout where

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Speaker 2: the coolant is, and you pop the bonnet and you

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: look and go, my word, that coolant looks it's full,

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01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: it's beautiful, it's not leaking, it's in tip top condition.

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Speaker 2: Would that then need you to believe that it's the

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01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: light So it's an electrical problem, not a coolant problem. Now,

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01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: if it's an electrical problem not a coolant problem, do

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01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: you back yourself on that decision and simply carry on

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01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,520
Speaker 2: driving with the risk that maybe it wasn't an electrical

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01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: problem and it was a coolant problem and at some

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: point a tremendous amount of heat's going to be coming

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01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: out of the engine and you basically buggered the thing.

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01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: Or were you right all along? You're just happy to

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01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: drive it along.

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Speaker 19: I was always told that the only light you really

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 19: have to worry about is the engine light. If that

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01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 19: one comes on, then you should stop straight away.

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Speaker 2: Tony. You should say that I had a Ferrari and

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01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: that light came on about an hour after I bought it.

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: I went, this not been a good purchase, and.

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Speaker 15: So you thought, this is not a CAF.

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Speaker 2: So I went back to the Ferrari. Didn't I said,

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01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: look at that, because it says not only you must

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Speaker 2: stop immediately, drive to the dealer as fast as you can.

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: So I took her back and they went, oh, that

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01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: nothing to worry about. I thought, are you lying to

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Speaker 2: me or not? Anyway, they made the light.

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Speaker 15: God, would it be that the dealer wasn't a Ferrari

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01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 15: guy either.

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Speaker 2: It's mine Away from nine the.

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Speaker 2: be a cooland hose problem. Now it's not. The cooland

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Speaker 2: host Phlle. I checked the coolant hose hoses tight as

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Speaker 2: fresh as new as by an early eighties Mitsubishi Mike.

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01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: No engine light there, just the blue smoke from the exhaust.

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Speaker 2: Fabulous logan. I'll tell you one day about the tready,

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Speaker 2: remember the Mitsubishi treaty I took for a test drive

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Speaker 2: that turned out to be a disaster. But that's for

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Speaker 2: another day. Five away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now Quill Chemist Walls the home of big brand

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Speaker 1: fateamens right.

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Speaker 2: I booked this in your diary. It's not out till

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Speaker 2: Jen sixteen. It's called Unstoppable. It's from the producers who

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01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: made Air. That's the Jordan's story. That was Athleck and Damon,

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01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: based on a true story in a book of Anthony Roebles.

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01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: He was the twenty eleven NCAA re sling champ, but

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Speaker 2: he only hit one leag.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to prove everyone wrong just to make

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Speaker 7: the team.

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01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 18: You are six months behind on the mortgage.

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Speaker 1: It's a perfect opportunity.

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Speaker 10: For Anthony to pitch it. I'm not letting him quit wrestling,

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01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 10: and I'm not letting him quit school.

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Speaker 2: You make people believe in something.

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Speaker 10: Surprise to see you when they see you.

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01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: They don't see someone who's.

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Speaker 10: Missing the leg.

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01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,480
Speaker 8: They see someone who is unstumbled.

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01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: You can show something anything is possible.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, is that he missa a leg?

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Speaker 1: That's my son?

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Speaker 9: Yet you're not gonna chair.

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Speaker 1: He used to be angry all the time, but I'm

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01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: not angry anymore.

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01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 10: So what are you?

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01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: Gerald? Jerome plays Anthony Gerald's like Pharrell, except with a Jay,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez, Sam's husband, Dawn Cheedle and Michael Penna star

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Speaker 2: and all of that. And it's out on Amazon Gen sixteen.

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01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: How far out are we doing these things now? Because

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Speaker 2: Jen's a long time away, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 15: It's November tomorrow.

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01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: Doesn't time flying?

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Speaker 14: Glenn?

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01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: Heh tell you what, Glenn? Doesn't time fly? Seems like

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01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: just yesterday it was October? Cool and sense of failing.

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01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: Mike organize replacement. I I captain. I will thank you

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01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: for your advice and I'll look forward to your company

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01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. From six as always, Happy days.

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