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Speaker 1: The only Drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: Their facts, and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand, Let's get

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Speaker 1: connected and news talk as.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon coming up on the show, Cabinet has finally ordered

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Speaker 3: government agencies to stop being so obsessed with race and

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Speaker 3: start focusing on need instead. Nichola Willis the Public Service Minister.

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Speaker 3: After five on that Trump has said a hard no

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Speaker 3: to a second debate. We're going to find out if

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Speaker 3: this is smart from Amy Tarkanian who's a Republican strategist

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Speaker 3: and apparently one and eight of us like dream scrolling

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Speaker 3: on properties as in looking at you know, the old

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Speaker 3: properties online more than having sex.

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Speaker 4: Ashley keV duplic Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So Mikey Sherman did nothing wrong with that Pole coverage

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Speaker 3: after all, remember that you remember the Pole coverage everybody

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Speaker 3: really wound up in April where the Prome Minister called

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Speaker 3: it frothy and three hundred different people complained about what

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Speaker 3: they saw. Well, the broadcasting standards Will already's been considering

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Speaker 3: it and they've just come back. This is the guys.

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Speaker 3: These are the guys. By the way who keep an

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Speaker 3: eye on TV and radio. They've made their ruling and

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Speaker 3: they've backed up Mikey Sherman, saying that while she yes,

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Speaker 3: she employed strong and provocative language, there was nothing in

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Speaker 3: her coverage that breach standards. And frankly, the BSA makes

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Speaker 3: such dumb decisions. I'm glad they've finally made one that's

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Speaker 3: a good one. I'm pleased this is their decision because

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Speaker 3: the reaction to Mikey Sherman was completely over the top.

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Speaker 3: Mikey Sherman is a fantastic political editor. I think she

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Speaker 3: is one of the best that TV and ZD ever

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Speaker 3: had in the last twenty years. Her analysis is always good.

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Speaker 3: I don't always agree with where she ends up, but

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Speaker 3: I can always see because she explains how she reached

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Speaker 3: always consider that she makes a fair point. I think

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Speaker 3: what people react to with Mikey Sherman is that she

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound like your traditional TV and ZE political editor.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't sound like a university educated person who's grown

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Speaker 3: She sounds like she comes from somewhere way out in

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Speaker 3: her style. People who watch TV three traditionally probably wouldn't

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Speaker 3: just clickbait on acid. That's her style. It's a perfectly

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Speaker 3: valid style to have. But I think to TV and

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Speaker 3: really confronting to have something quite as fun an energetic

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Speaker 3: I feel like TV and Z could do with a

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Speaker 2: Ever, Dupless welcome to get involved.

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Speaker 3: In that debate. That's nine two nine two for the number,

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Speaker 3: and of course standard text fees apply. Now get a

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Speaker 3: Tuacar College says that her kids had come home hungry

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Speaker 3: Association President Vaughan Queil is with us. Now, Hey, Vaughn killed,

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Speaker 3: how are you well? Thank you? Vaughan sounds to me

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a little scandalous as far as being

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Speaker 5: honest with you. We all know that the Healthy School

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Speaker 5: There's a spear rap sitting on the bench. You know,

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Speaker 5: that's better than throwing it in the bin. But it

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Speaker 5: has to go to the kids first, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of anything like this?

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Speaker 5: For no?

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Speaker 3: No, So literally this is and you're stinborn, right, you're not,

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Speaker 3: You're like you are the association president. You will have

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, there's and there's a number of secondary schools, large, small,

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Speaker 5: It's a logistically massive exercise, and there's always surplus left over,

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Speaker 5: and it's good to roll model eating with students and

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Speaker 5: your class and all that sort of stuff, not at

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Speaker 5: the expense of the hungry child sitting in front of you.

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Speaker 3: What does this tell us about the way that we

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Speaker 3: to being gamed like this and teachers just nicking off

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Speaker 3: with the gluten free stuff, first, there's a problem, isn't there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's if it's happening. So that the truth is

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Speaker 5: often somewhere in the middle between maybe your side of

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Speaker 5: bit more information before I was going to cast judgment

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Speaker 5: on them. However, the intent of the program, it's certainly

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Speaker 5: logistically huge, right, getting that many lunches into people's hands,

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Speaker 5: and so you trust the integrity of the workforce, particularly

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Speaker 5: the teaching workforce, and so it's not necessarily a flaw

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Speaker 5: with the program. It's probably some misinterpretation from the grown

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Speaker 3: Misinterpretation. How can you misinterpret and take the food before

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Speaker 5: Well, they well, they might have thought everyone had been fed,

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Speaker 5: always better to go and ask in questions rather than

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Speaker 5: making statements. However, if kids are going hungry, someone's getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So the problem here, what this is going

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Speaker 3: If people already sort of are not super keen on

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Speaker 3: paying for other people's kids to eat at school, this

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Speaker 3: is going to just turn them off even more, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yes, but this is more than likely a

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Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock in the morning, get a calorie payload

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Speaker 5: they can. But also our provider does excess that they

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Speaker 5: make it all look and feel good. But yeah, gets

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Speaker 5: there's lots of good work happening in this lunch program

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Speaker 5: across the country. I would hate for one site that

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Vaughan, appreciate it. There's vunque or Secondary Principals

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Speaker 3: Association president. Of course, it's to a cow college when

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Speaker 3: the look in the food, of course it is what

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Speaker 3: school did I go to?

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Speaker 5: To?

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Speaker 3: A cow college? That's how we roll down there, get

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Speaker 3: in first before the others can you got it, you know,

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Speaker 3: like the earlier stuf gets the worm, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: disappointing that Turko College is not talking to met because

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, I'm an old I'm an old girl.

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Speaker 3: Tell them what I'm an old I don't feel like

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Speaker 3: And do you know what I mean? So is desil

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Speaker 3: there's no dispute about these facts anyway. So as a result,

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Speaker 3: and we were just we were having a little bit

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Speaker 3: both think we know. Donald Trump has ruled out another

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Speaker 3: The got the first time, his nerves out of the way,

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Speaker 3: because he clearly won and she lost. I think, however,

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Speaker 3: most people have settled on the fact that she won.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c

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Speaker 3: Darcy Watergrave Sports Talk coasters with me, Hey, Darce, hello

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Speaker 3: here that I am so thrilled that they finally had

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Speaker 3: a good jiggle up of the Super Rugby format. Do

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Speaker 3: you like what you see?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 7: Eleven teams is not ideal. Hopefully they'll go back up

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Speaker 7: to twelve or maybe more, but when the rebels run

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Speaker 7: out of money and basically saw their bed sheets, it's.

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Speaker 8: Time to move on. So they've done that.

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Speaker 7: I think they've from what I can gather talking with

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Speaker 7: kind of Man's Bridge for example, he'll be on the

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Speaker 7: show later on tonight. They've taken into account what the

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Speaker 7: clubs think, what the franchises think, what the fans think.

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Speaker 7: But they've not gone too far. They've not gone too far.

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Speaker 7: They don't want to suddenly make wholesale changes that confuse everybody.

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Speaker 7: They want to go, Okay, we heard you, we listened

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Speaker 7: to you. Around the top eight. No, that didn't work.

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Speaker 7: So we've got a top bridge. Juice it a wee bit.

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Speaker 7: You've got a top six. There's a lucky loser situation

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Speaker 7: where someone could lose up in the first round of

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Speaker 7: Still got.

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Speaker 3: Me, just explain, So tell me if I've got this right.

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Speaker 3: So it's six teams, so three teams will go up

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Speaker 3: against three teams and three will be knocked out in

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Speaker 3: the first week of the finals. Obviously you can't have

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Speaker 3: three going through. So this's the lucky loser is the

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Speaker 3: highest place of those three that are knocked out.

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Speaker 7: The high seeded loser makes up the four teams and

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Speaker 7: the three simple and then if you go another thing

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Speaker 7: is the draws not out yet and they haven't got

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Speaker 8: Is New Zealand Football.

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Speaker 7: This should have been sorted out months and months and

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Speaker 3: As they'd be for twenty five So finally, and thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: Your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your

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Speaker 2: And news talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Not Piccola Wills is cold. Beout us after five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Talk us through that cabinet circular that just went out

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Former US President Donald Trump will not debate Karmala Harris again.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go out and vote.

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Speaker 11: If this decision is made, it will mean nothing other

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Speaker 3: And finally someone has made a remix. They were bound

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Speaker 2: They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats.

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Speaker 8: Eat the cat, eating the cat.

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Speaker 2: They're eating the dogs.

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Speaker 8: They're eating the cats.

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Speaker 7: Eat the cat.

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Speaker 8: They're eating the cats.

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Speaker 7: They're eating the dogs, eat the cat, Eat the cat.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 12: Hello, I'm sure sorry. I was just looking at this

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Speaker 3: Do you do. Do you do the property porn as well?

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Speaker 3: What is the endowment that you look for in a house?

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Speaker 3: What do you do? What do you get excited about?

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Speaker 3: And now you know you're a baller if you've got

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Speaker 4: Ah, it sounds nice.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump not wanting a second debate. That's pretty clearly

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Speaker 4: Maybe the last debate was a fluke for Harris.

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Speaker 12: Maybe it was, I mean, who knows, And maybe Trump

438
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Speaker 12: was you know, not on his game, But I mean today,

439
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Speaker 12: he wrote on social media. He wrote, when a prize

440
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Speaker 12: fighter loses the fight, the first words out of his

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Speaker 12: mouth are I want to rematch. And he shaid, you know,

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Speaker 12: he said, the polls show that he won the bait. Well,

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Speaker 12: the polls didn't show that. And just because you say

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Speaker 12: it's true doesn't make it true. But we know that

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Speaker 12: that's kind of what politicians you know, do, and especially

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Speaker 12: hit Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, what do you think is is is it

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Speaker 3: a smart move from him to rule this out?

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Speaker 2: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I don't think so at this point, I would think

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Speaker 12: it would be a smarter move for Kamala Harris not.

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Speaker 4: To do it. Why is she hit the ball out

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Speaker 4: of the park?

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Speaker 6: Come on?

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Speaker 3: I mean, she did not Dan she was, she was critible,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't that.

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Speaker 12: Exciting for Kamala Harris To me? That was hitting the

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Speaker 12: ball out of the park. I went in with almost

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Speaker 12: zero expectations. I think a lot of people did, and

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Speaker 12: to see her come out as well as she did,

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Speaker 12: I would be hard pressed to see her do that twice.

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Speaker 3: Why is that? Why did you have such low expectations

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Speaker 3: of it? Is she so to you? Guys?

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Speaker 4: I think she just is not great at public speaking.

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Speaker 12: And I mean you look at her, you know, talking

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Speaker 12: to crowds, and the fact that she doesn't give a

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Speaker 12: lot of interviews, and when she does, you're trying to

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Speaker 12: make sense of what it is that she's saying. Again,

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Speaker 12: the same could be said of former President Trump. All

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Speaker 12: other times you're like, he's off on a tangent.

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Speaker 4: Where is he going with? I'm lost? Look at the

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Speaker 4: shiny object you see.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you why she didn't. Why from from

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Speaker 3: where we're sitting in our powder of the world, why

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Speaker 3: it didn't feel to me like she hit it out

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Speaker 3: of the park. It's because she did not match the

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Speaker 3: hype around her. So Obama was hyped, and then when

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Speaker 3: he spoke, he was as good as the hype. I

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Speaker 3: would even say this of our Jisan da Ardurt and

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Speaker 3: she was hyped. And when she speaks, not anything else.

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Speaker 3: But when she speaks publicly, her speaking is as good

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Speaker 3: as her hype. But with Karmala, the hype is way

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Speaker 3: up there and when she speaks she does not match it.

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Speaker 4: Well, you bring up a good point.

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Speaker 12: I think that's why the Harris campaign is trying to

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Speaker 12: downplay this not only what happened the other night, but

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Speaker 12: I think also, you know, the polls that show her

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Speaker 12: leading Trump were at least very close to him, and

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Speaker 12: the earlier projections that the results in November are going

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Speaker 12: to I think amount to just such a razor thin

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Speaker 12: margin of who wins and who doesn't in this So

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Speaker 12: I think they're really trying to downplay anything that she

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Speaker 12: does that looks like it's above what we were expecting.

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Speaker 3: Well so are they. Are they speaking to the media

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Speaker 3: and telling people to calm their farms?

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Speaker 12: Basically yes, but again, speaking to the media, that's one

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Speaker 12: thing that Harris is not doing one on one, and

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Speaker 12: that's still something that's annoying everybody.

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Speaker 3: Does that say to you though, if that tempering, if

501
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Speaker 3: her team is tempering expectations behind the scenes, that they

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Speaker 3: realize this is not going to lead to a massive,

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Speaker 3: like a mass of movement in the polls.

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Speaker 12: I don't know, because I feel what we're talking about

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Speaker 12: here maybe a couple one hundred thousand people. I think

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Speaker 12: that could swing this election in a number of states

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Speaker 12: and key states here. And but again, those who are

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Speaker 12: for Harris are for Harris that this debate did not

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Speaker 12: change their minds the same with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I can't remember the last time.

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Speaker 12: It's probably been at least over a decade since I

512
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Speaker 12: think we had a any kind of presidential debate that

513
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Speaker 12: was a big swing for voters one way or the other.

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Speaker 12: But you know, a few hundred thousand people, that's all

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Speaker 12: it takes to really swing an election like this. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Hey, So apparently more women in the States are

517
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Speaker 3: getting their tubes tied at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they are, and this is because of the Roe v.

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Speaker 12: Wade that was overturned, the decision a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 12: On the studies showing that they're seeing the biggest increases

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Speaker 12: in states that ban abortion, About five million women got

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Speaker 12: their tubes tied and in dozens of states around here.

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Speaker 12: And the sectomies are also on the rise in a

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Speaker 12: lot of these states too, for guys. So it's not

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Speaker 12: just women who are making this decision, but also men,

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Speaker 12: or maybe it's the women who are making the decision

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Speaker 12: for those men and they're just you know, going along

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Speaker 12: and saying, Okay, you did this, I'm going to do

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Speaker 12: this too.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Hey, Dan, thank you very much. But Dan Mitchison

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Speaker 3: now US Correspondence Labor in the UK. Keep an eye

532
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Speaker 3: on these guys because this is Keir Starmer's new government,

533
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Speaker 3: because some of what they do is would sound like

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Speaker 3: absolute common scenes to you, but some of what they

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Speaker 3: do is pretty wacky. One thing that they're doing and

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Speaker 3: I've been monitoring. I'm not monitoring because it Jesus sounds

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Speaker 3: like I'm like the headmaster, but I have been keeping

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Speaker 3: an eye on this, and just out of pure fascination

539
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Speaker 3: is what they're doing with rental properties over there. They

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Speaker 3: are making it really hard to be a landlord. And

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Speaker 3: the latest thing that's leaked out today is that they're

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Speaker 3: basically going to ban landlords in the UK from being

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Speaker 3: able to get rid of tenants who don't pay their

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Speaker 3: rent for three months. So at the moment, I would say,

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Speaker 3: tenants over there already have it pretty sweet. They can

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Speaker 3: fall behind for two months consecutively, so like basically eight

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Speaker 3: weeks worth of rent they can fall behind on. At

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Speaker 3: only at that point, after eight weeks of missed rent

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Speaker 3: can landlords then act. And even then they can't just

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Speaker 3: kick them out and be like you've just taken the

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Speaker 3: mickey for eight weeks mate, bye. They still have to

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Speaker 3: give them two weeks notice. Kirstarma is going to beef

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Speaker 3: that up even more in the tenants favor them with

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Speaker 3: a law that's coming next to year. Tenants can miss

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Speaker 3: twelve weeks of rent, now twelve weeks and then when

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Speaker 3: the landlord acts, they have to give them four weeks notice.

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Speaker 3: By the end of that you'll deally with sixteen weeks

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Speaker 3: of misstrenth. That is, that's a third of your year.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, isn't it. Anyway, keep an eye on it

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Speaker 3: because there's more of that coming. I think quarter too.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: Barry so per SENI your political correspondence with us A Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. Head right, So this is circular. The circular

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Speaker 3: that Cabinets issued is overdue. But finally here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a ruling and in fact it should never

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Speaker 9: have been required, I think, I mean, surely every New

567
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Speaker 9: Zealander should be treated the same. But you remember was

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Speaker 9: act essentially giving eight percent of their contracts to MALDI providers.

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Speaker 9: This is government contracts and the first of all it

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Speaker 9: was five percent. They upped it to eight percent last year.

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Speaker 9: And of course we saw recently the case in the

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Speaker 9: Hawk's Bay where young people were getting free medical treatment

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Speaker 9: from GPS if they were mild or pacifica. It shouldn't

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Speaker 9: be the case. And as you said that the circular

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Speaker 9: has been issued by the Cabinet offers and it's essentially

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Speaker 9: saying there should be no ethnicity considered when government contracts

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Speaker 9: are let and that to me should be I mean,

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Speaker 9: it should have been the case all along, but unfortunately

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Speaker 9: it hasn't been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, what do you make of the teachers nicking

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Speaker 3: the school lunches at our college?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know that's your old college, so you know,

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Speaker 9: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Type why it came out.

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Speaker 9: That's right, that's what they produce. Yeah, it's interesting because

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Speaker 9: a mother had basically complained that two of our college

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Speaker 9: staff were eating lunches and the problem was that the

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Speaker 9: kids wanted to phone home to tell their parents this

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Speaker 9: was happening, but they couldn't do so because phones are

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Speaker 9: now banned in colleges.

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Speaker 3: So they had to go down to the old end

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Speaker 3: in the field.

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Speaker 9: Day. Didn't they go down to the office to get

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Speaker 9: your phone back and say, I want to tell on

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Speaker 9: you for eating my lunch. Well they're not going to

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Speaker 9: get their phone back, so they go home hungry. But

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Speaker 9: I've got to say the school Lunch Minister David Seymour,

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Speaker 9: he has said to please explain to the.

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Speaker 4: Ministry mostly Sellings.

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Speaker 13: Will be very clear that one of the jobs of

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Speaker 13: teachers is to instill good values in children, show children

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Speaker 13: the difference between right and wrong. And it's very hard

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Speaker 13: for teachers to do that when the teacher themselves is

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Speaker 13: allegedly nicking their lunch and also repressing their ability to

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Speaker 13: seek justice by calling for help when bad things like

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Speaker 13: that happen. So certainly something the Ministry of Education will

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Speaker 13: be looking into, and I look forward in the near

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Speaker 13: future to announcing more details about how the Healthy School

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Speaker 13: Lunch program will continue. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 13: better and cost less, but it's going to be for

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Speaker 13: the primarily the benefit of the students, not to have

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Speaker 13: it next by someone else before it gets to them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's his fault, isn't it really, Because he's

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Speaker 9: made the lunches more tasty.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the thing is this will this this

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Speaker 3: kind of thing plays into his hands, right because it

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Speaker 3: will undermine support for the lunches because it will it

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Speaker 3: will absolutely wind a whole bunch of taxpayers up knowing

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Speaker 3: that reasonably well paid teachers are getting a nice little

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Speaker 3: gluten free sandwich. Yes, thanks to us, you're more than welcome, right,

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Speaker 3: So it helps his cakes to actually go harder on it.

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Speaker 3: But there's nothing he can do about it, because as

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Speaker 3: long as he's rolling out lunches to schools and teachers

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Speaker 3: are hungry and and a bit naughty, they will continue

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, you know it's going to continue happening. But they've

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Speaker 9: got to do so not at the expense of the kids.

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Speaker 9: And that's the problem. If they're nicky, literally.

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Speaker 3: Nick I can say that as well, what can you

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Speaker 3: do about it?

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Speaker 9: Well, if does go home hungry, hopefully they will be

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Speaker 9: reported to the authorities and they'll be moved on. I mean,

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Speaker 9: you can't teach. They can't go there expecting to get

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Speaker 9: their lunch.

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Speaker 3: Okay, quite your harsh punishment barrier. The White Tongue High

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Speaker 3: School head Whitey Tribunal accusing the government of breaching the

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Speaker 3: treaty is strike what eight from the White Tinny Tribunal

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Speaker 3: or what.

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Speaker 9: It's incredible really when you think this is the government

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Speaker 9: overturning a Court of appealed decision and that's what's got

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Speaker 9: the White TOANNGI tribunal very upset. They put out a

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Speaker 9: report today and they've pointed to a meeting between senior

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Speaker 9: government ministers and seafood representatives as one of the many

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Speaker 9: instances of the Crown breaching the treaty with its foreshore

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Speaker 9: and seabed changes. They're going to make it harder for

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Speaker 9: MALDI unless they've got a customary title that goes way

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Speaker 9: back to eighteen forty. And you know, the changes are

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Speaker 9: quite significant. As Paul Goldsmith, who's the Minister in charge

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Speaker 9: of this, he said, the notion of extending the the

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Speaker 9: the distance from the shore twelve nautical miles is patently ridiculous.

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Speaker 9: He said, you'd have to have a navy to patrol that,

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Speaker 9: and that's true. But what they're going to do is

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Speaker 9: they're going to cut down significantly the number of customary

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Speaker 9: titles that Mary can have power over. But Mary in

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Speaker 9: the end will still have the power, but they won't

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Speaker 9: be able to dictate what is going to happen in

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Speaker 9: that particular zone.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Barry, thank you very much. Listen, we'll wrap the

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Speaker 3: political week that was when you come back later on

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Speaker 3: about quarter past six. It's Barry sober seeing your political

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Speaker 3: political correspondence. Seven away from five.

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Speaker 2: Entertain the mic Husking breakfast.

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Speaker 14: There was one Olympic story that came out of nowhere

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Speaker 14: for a lot of us who was Hamish care of course, suddenly,

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Speaker 14: seemingly out of no where, we had the best high

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Speaker 14: jumper in the world. He was going to be competing

667
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Speaker 14: in Belgium apparently, but he said, I bugger it, I

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Speaker 14: need to come and see Mike.

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Speaker 2: So he has and he's well.

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Speaker 6: I did athletics at a club at a young age,

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Speaker 6: and high jump was always the event that I was

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Speaker 6: the best at. I think the thing for me was

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Speaker 6: every year I just got a little bit more serious,

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Speaker 6: and then obviously the last years I've been pretty serious.

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Speaker 8: I can't remember the name of the term.

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Speaker 14: So you'd start with the scissors. What's the one where

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Speaker 14: you roll forward over?

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Speaker 3: That would be called the Western roll.

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Speaker 4: So occasionally we.

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Speaker 14: Got into the Western roll because the height was too

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Speaker 14: high for the scissors. Showing you age mate, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 14: Monday from six am, the Mike asking breakfast with the

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Speaker 14: Jaguar fpace us talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Hey, well this is a good day, I would say.

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Speaker 3: Four away from five. By the way, we've finally got

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Speaker 3: to the end of the evidence. In the Polkinghorn trial,

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Speaker 3: it's taken seven straight weeks of testimony involving more than

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Speaker 3: eighty witnesses. So both sides have now finished presenting their

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Speaker 3: evidence on Monday that the Crown is expected to take

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Speaker 3: all day to do their closing address, right, they sum

691
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Speaker 3: everything up, they kind of try to convince the jury

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Speaker 3: that they're right, and then on Tuesday the defense will

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Speaker 3: give their closing closing address, and then after that, on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: deliberations expected to start. And then of course, you know,

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Speaker 3: we've been here a million times before. How long is

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Speaker 3: a piece of string? And we have to wait to

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Speaker 3: find out, you know, what the jury says for. I

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Speaker 3: don't know about you, but I'm invested in this. I've

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Speaker 3: got a lot of probably more than any other trial

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Speaker 3: that I can remember since what maybe like the Scott

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Speaker 3: Guy trial, have people been really really interested in this.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be now. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: to be quite interesting to see which way it goes.

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Speaker 3: Right hither, It's noticeable that Luxon is distancing himself from

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Speaker 3: anything controversial regarding Mardy, isn't it. Yes, Actually, thank you

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Speaker 3: for making that point, because let's just notice this for

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Speaker 3: a second. Right, that cabinet circular was released on a Friday.

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Speaker 3: That's not an accident. That's deliberate. You only put things

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Speaker 3: out on a Friday when you are like trying to

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Speaker 3: not have too much attention, or you got to do it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to do it because your coalition

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Speaker 3: agreements is you got to do it, but you don't

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Speaker 3: really want to have to do it. Hope it gets

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Speaker 3: buried by the weekend's news. I would say that is

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Speaker 3: because National is ashamed of it, because what I hear

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Speaker 3: keep hearing from Wellington is that Nikola Willis and Chris

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Speaker 3: Luxon are quote allergic to this stuff. They really hate

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Speaker 3: having to talk about race stuff. It freaks them out.

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Speaker 3: They get the eck over it. So I don't want

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Speaker 3: to have to and if they absolutely have to, then

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Speaker 3: they want to bid on a Friday. But speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately for Nicola, Nichola is with us next to talk

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Speaker 3: about race and this particular circulars to standby for that,

724
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Speaker 3: and then after that we'll go to the US and

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Speaker 3: speak to Amy Tarkhaney and a Republican strategist and whether

726
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Speaker 3: Trump is doing the right thing by saying a hard

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Speaker 3: no to another debate, News Talks ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen, drive with one New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 1: get connected, News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Cabinet has finally ordered government agencies to stop prioritizing

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Speaker 3: public services on the basis of race and instead focus

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Speaker 3: on need. Government contracts should also be awarded on the

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Speaker 3: basis of public value, not on where the businesses are

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Speaker 3: mildly owned, like the last government had ordered. Nicola Willis

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Speaker 3: is the Public Service Minister with us. Now, hey, Nikolin,

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Speaker 3: how are you heaping? Very well? Thank you? So does

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Speaker 3: this mean we're going to get no more stuff at all,

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Speaker 3: like the g visits and hawks Bay being free based

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Speaker 3: on race.

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Speaker 15: Well, we think it's really important that services aren't arbitrarily

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Speaker 15: allocated on the basis of personal identity, including ethnic identity.

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Speaker 15: What we're not saying is that you would never be

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Speaker 15: able to do that. But if you're going to do that,

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Speaker 15: you've got to have some real analytical regular that outlines

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Speaker 15: why that is the best way to target that service,

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Speaker 15: because most of the time that's just an actual assumption

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Speaker 15: or a proxy, whereas the actual need might be more

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Speaker 15: that that there are people who aren't accessing the health

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Speaker 15: services because of their housing, because of where they live,

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Speaker 15: the conset of their low income, because of a range

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Speaker 15: of other factors. And you're much better to be analytical

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Speaker 15: and rigorous because that allows for the best use of resource.

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Speaker 3: How confident are you that the public service is actually

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Speaker 3: going to follow this instruction?

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Speaker 15: Well, this is a binding instruction for the public service,

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Speaker 15: and I know that they take their professional responsibility seriously.

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Speaker 15: We've gone to great care with the circular. David Cymour

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Speaker 15: and I worked hard on it to make sure that

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Speaker 15: it gives really clear directions so that when misters identify

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Speaker 15: things in their portfolios that they have questioned about, they

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Speaker 15: can go back to the circular and say to their agency, well,

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Speaker 15: how do you justify this according to the Cabinet circular?

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Speaker 15: Show me your analytical framework, Show me how you step

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Speaker 15: through the circular to make sense of this. So, yeah,

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Speaker 15: I think it's going to make a difference.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any idea what value of government contracts

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Speaker 3: were awarded to Maori businesses because they were Maori businesses

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Speaker 3: under that labor rule.

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Speaker 15: Well, it had got to just over eight percent, which

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Speaker 15: I understand was about three thousand contracts. Now, what I'd

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Speaker 15: like to say about that is I expect that Marty

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Speaker 15: businesses will continue to before and win government contracts, and

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Speaker 15: they'll do so on the basis of the value that

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Speaker 15: they deliver in the community. The problem with the target

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Speaker 15: was that it led to a perception among many people

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Speaker 15: who were bidding for government contract that there wasn't a

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Speaker 15: level playing field and that one business would get favored

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Speaker 15: over another on the basis that it was defined as

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Speaker 15: a Mary business. We want one in contracts because they're

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Speaker 15: the best people for the job.

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Speaker 3: Nicola. Things like this get dropped on a Friday because

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Speaker 3: you don't want to get too much attention. Are you

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Speaker 3: guys doing this on a Friday because you're actually ashamed

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Speaker 3: of it?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 15: No, I've just had a very busy week. Is the

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Speaker 15: rest of the cabinet. This is an announcement that we

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Speaker 15: wanted to make. We've agreed it, We've got it out there.

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Speaker 15: David spoken about it today, I've spoken about it today.

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Speaker 3: Very heavy to keep you, Nicola, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 3: Talking again on Monday. That's Nichola Willis, Public Service Minister

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Speaker 3: and Finance Minister of course with us every Monday after six.

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Speaker 2: O'clock ever due for c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So Donald Trump has ruled out another presidential debate against

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Speaker 3: Karmala Harris before the US election in November.

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Speaker 10: So, because we've done two debates and because they were successful,

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Speaker 10: there will be no third debate. It's too late anyway,

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Speaker 10: the voting has already begun.

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Speaker 1: You got to go.

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Speaker 3: Amy Takanian is a Republican strategist. Hey, Amy, Hello. Is

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Speaker 3: Trump saying no because he knows he lost that debate?

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 16: So he's actually claiming only a loser would call for

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Speaker 16: another debate, So he's trying to change the narrative and

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Speaker 16: help the win.

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Speaker 3: Isn't a smart move from him to not go in

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Speaker 3: for another one?

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Speaker 16: I would actually say so because I think that he's

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Speaker 16: already got his base in place very solidly, and there

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Speaker 16: are a number of people who are still wavering in

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Speaker 16: the center, and if he continues to have another mishap,

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Speaker 16: it very well solidify his next loss.

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Speaker 3: Right. So, which is to say that the only one

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Speaker 3: who really can benefit from a debate is really Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 16: Correct, because she already comes in kind of at a

817
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Speaker 16: lower threshold people really don't know too much about her.

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Speaker 16: They don't know too much about, you know, where she

819
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Speaker 16: stands on a number of issues. They just know that

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Speaker 16: she's held a few different offices throughout her lifetime, but

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Speaker 16: they don't really know exactly much about her as the individual.

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Speaker 16: So I think in this first debate, or this only

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Speaker 16: debate that she had between her and President Trump, she

824
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Speaker 16: really was able to shine without giving too much detail

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Speaker 16: about her stances. So she allowed him to take the bait, flounder,

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Speaker 16: fall apart, make himself, you know, continue to look you know,

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Speaker 16: very angry, upset, And that's really what their message has been.

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Speaker 16: It's been, you know, do you want to go back,

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Speaker 16: do you want to go into another abyss of anger

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Speaker 16: or do you want to move forward? And do you

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Speaker 16: want to be positive? And they really don't have to

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Speaker 16: break down any policy in the meantime, which is unfortunate,

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Speaker 16: but that's where we are right now.

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Speaker 3: I know that two right minded people and people who

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Speaker 3: are maybe able to look at this kind of dispassionately.

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Speaker 3: The eating cats and dogs commings is pretty loony, But

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Speaker 3: does it actually hurt Donald Trump? All of the coverage

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Speaker 3: that he's getting as a result of this.

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Speaker 16: Well, I would say to his base, they actually believe it.

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Speaker 16: And and so now there are stories that are popping

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Speaker 16: up on social media from people who are of Haitian

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Speaker 16: descent who are saying, listen, you know, my grandpa used

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Speaker 16: to do this for voodoo rituals. My auntie used to

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Speaker 16: do this, you know. But it was back in Haiti

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Speaker 16: because it was a third world country and they were

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Speaker 16: in survival mode. Not many stories you hear, if at all,

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Speaker 16: about it actually happening here in the United States of

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Speaker 16: America have been verified.

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Speaker 3: Amy, Thank you, really interesting stuff. Appreciate your time. That's

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Speaker 3: Amy Tarkanian, who's a Republican strategist. Now on that. Apparently

851
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Speaker 3: there is a hard right conspiracy theorist who's traveling with

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump at the moment, and some Republicans are blaming

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Speaker 3: this woman for the cats and dogs comment that he

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Speaker 3: made during the BAK. I've never heard of her before.

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Speaker 3: Laura Luma, as her name has like a huge fellow

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Speaker 3: on Twitter, is apparently well known for spreading conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 3: including probably most notably, that the nine to eleven attacks

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Speaker 3: were an inside job that was carried out by the

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Speaker 3: US government, which obviously makes it particularly weird that she

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Speaker 3: was at the nine to eleven memorial with Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, and people got reasonably upset about that for

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Speaker 3: obvious reasons. Anyway, she traveled to the debate with Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump on his plane on Tuesday US time. Here's a

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Speaker 3: really interesting thing. On Monday US time, one day before

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Speaker 3: the debate, she tweeted the cats and dogs theory on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: And for that reason, because she had done it twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours before the debate, people and the Republicans reckoned

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Speaker 3: that he got that idea from her. Fourteen past five, Heather,

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Speaker 3: what is the value of the eight percent of the

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Speaker 3: contracts that were awarded to the Maori businesses? I don't know,

871
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Speaker 3: but three thousand of them. There's quite a lot of money.

872
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: You can imagine that that has been set aside for now.

873
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: The thing about it is you can't quantify how much

874
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: of it shouldn't have been spent, because at least some

875
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 3: of those businesses actually would have deserved, like on an

876
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: open market anyway, to win the tender, do you know

877
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: what I mean? But now, of course, because of what

878
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: Labor did, everybody's going to have different ideas about it. Hither,

879
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't think there was a Republican strategist more like

880
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: a Democratic one. What you need to understand is the

881
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: Republicans are quite angry with Trump at the moment because

882
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: they think he lost the debate and they are not

883
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: seeing the wood for the trees. Just watch. I don't

884
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: think it's going to shift the poles. And plus, also

885
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 3: because of all the free publicity that he's getting, because

886
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: everybody's freaking out about his cats and dogs comment, he

887
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: will actually probably come out of it just fine for him, unfortunately,

888
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: eighteen past five. Now, everybody loves a bit of property porn,

889
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: don't we. We all do, right, But do you love

890
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: it this much? According to new data, fifty nine percent

891
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: of us are doing what they call dream scrolling, Twenty

892
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 3: eight percent of us are doing it every single week.

893
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: Thirty eight percent of us would rather dream scroll than

894
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: look at rugby, and twelve percent would prefer it over sex.

895
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: Property commentator Ashley Churches with me. Now, hey, Ashley Gather,

896
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: I mean you love the property porn of all the people.

897
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 17: Right Interestingly, prior to your producer ring you earlier today,

898
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 17: I don't think it's something I'd ever done other than

899
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 17: when I was actually seriously looking at buy and I

900
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 17: don't think I even just go online to have a look,

901
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 17: but I know people do, and I can kind of

902
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 17: understand what drives it.

903
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 9: Escape is in yeah, a little bit of that.

904
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 18: And also I saw the stats and it indicated that

905
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 18: it's overwhelmingly people under thirty four, I think, or thirty nine.

906
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 18: So if you think about the cycle of life, either

907
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 18: which you and I went through sort of going through.

908
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 18: You start out your first passion is getting your first home,

909
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 18: so you know, you're looking to see what's available, what

910
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 18: the other guy's got, who's over the fence, And then

911
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 18: you get your first home, and then, as we're all

912
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 18: wont to do, because life's about competition, you're then looking

913
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 18: to see who's got something better than you, to see

914
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 18: whether or not there's something better out there than what

915
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 18: you've got. So I kind of get it, and yeah,

916
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 18: I guess that's what drives it.

917
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: It feels to me like it's an activity that you

918
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: do when there is a change of life coming up, right,

919
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: So you need to buy your house, or maybe you

920
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: need to downscale, or maybe you're going to quit your

921
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: job and you want to do something else, move somewhere else.

922
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: That's when you start for normal people, that's when you

923
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: start your properly porn Yet I.

924
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Speaker 18: Think so and so, at the risk of being hopelessly sexist,

925
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 18: I think it probably depends on your gender because I

926
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 18: think with women, yeah, I think with women it's about,

927
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Speaker 18: you know, if you've got a baby coming along or

928
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 18: something's changing in your life, absolutely looking for a bigger home.

929
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Speaker 17: You looking for a home.

930
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 18: It's got somewhere the build a nursery. I think with

931
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Speaker 18: guys it's more likely to be not so much about

932
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Speaker 18: the house itself, but what the house, what the house

933
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 18: is worth. So so guys are looking to see what

934
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Speaker 18: what a better house might cost relative to what they've

935
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Speaker 18: currently got or because the other thing I understand from

936
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 18: the study is quite common as people will look at

937
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 18: their friends and neighbors place as well and snoop on those.

938
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 18: And again, with women, it's looking to see what their

939
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Speaker 18: friends and neighbors have. With guys, it's looking to see

940
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 18: what their friends and neighbor's houses are worth.

941
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Speaker 2: Now that's a.

942
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 18: Huge generalization, but I don't think it's an unreasonable if.

943
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Speaker 3: There was anything that you didn't is there anything you

944
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: don't have in your house that you would dream scroll for?

945
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 18: I think I can honestly say no, I'm going to

946
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 18: point in my life where I'm actually pretty happy. I

947
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Speaker 18: live in a lovely spot on the beach here in

948
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Speaker 18: Hawk's Bay. But you know, maybe when I was younger,

949
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 18: maybe when I was younger, I might have had look

950
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Speaker 18: to see if somebody had a pool or a spar

951
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 18: pool or something. But no, now I'm going to point

952
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 18: a life where I'm just pretty happy with what I have.

953
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Speaker 3: Beach and Hawks Base sounds awesome, Ashley, thank you very much.

954
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 3: I don't think i'd want to look at anything else either.

955
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: That's actually church property commentator. If I could, If I could,

956
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: I would. I just can't be naft moving though, like

957
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: really cannot like ever again. So I probably just have

958
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: the pool installed rather than going and buying a place

959
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: that had a pool. I think I've probably solved that problem.

960
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get a pool when I'm rich. I'm

961
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: just going to put a pool in. I'm not gonna

962
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: look at any more properties, because moving house what a

963
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: ball ag five twenty one.

964
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

965
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Allan drive with one new Zealand. Let's

966
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: get connected and news talk as they'd be either.

967
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: My wife spends hours dreams scrolling tea mood. You know what, Ben,

968
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: I think. I think we dream scroll all the things now,

969
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: don't we? Five twenty four Listen how cute with the

970
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 3: black ferns giving King Charles. I want to talk about

971
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: this and something that Darcy Waldergrave raised on the show yesterday.

972
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: The question he asked was do we want our all

973
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: blacks to be a little bit more like our black ferns?

974
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: And he asked the question obviously because the black Ferns

975
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: pretty much went viral around the world for having the

976
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: cheek to break palace protocol and hug the King, and

977
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: they loved it, and he looked like he loved it.

978
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 3: And it's frankly hard to imagine anyone watching that video

979
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: and not loving it because it was so cute and

980
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: full of joy. Would we like the all Blacks to

981
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: beached a little bit more like that? I think we would.

982
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they need to go why. I

983
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: can't imagine blokes from New Zealand bowling up and hugging

984
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 3: the King, So I'm not being like unrealistic about that.

985
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: I don't think they want to go full noise like

986
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: the Black Ferns, but just a little bit. And I'll

987
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: tell you why, because the All Blacks are boring. They

988
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: are so boring that is deliberate, by the way, that

989
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: is not an accident. Somewhere along the line in the

990
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: professional area, the rugby bosses decided that the jersey was

991
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: more important than the man, and that's why they don't

992
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: write the players on the back of the jerseys like

993
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: other countries do. They apparently had considered it, but then

994
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: they decided not to. It's also why you hardly ever

995
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: see any intimate, behind the scenes personal stuff with the

996
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: All Blacks, because they're all all Blacks. They're not actually humans.

997
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: This is by design. Now, that is fine. Ultimately, the

998
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: most important thing is actually that the All Blacks win

999
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: the game. But once they win the game, and I'd

1000
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: be surprised if I would like to know if other

1001
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: people do this too, once they win the game, I

1002
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: turn the telly off. I don't sit around for the

1003
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: post match interviews like I do with the Warriors because

1004
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: I don't care because they're boring, because they're going to

1005
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: say nothing other than something like, oh was a gome

1006
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: with two halves, and yeah, the boys left everything on

1007
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: the field. I mean, what a yawn. You can already

1008
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: predict what's going to come out of their mouths, right,

1009
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: So yes, I would. I would actually much prefer if

1010
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: they were even half as fun as Ruby Tooey was,

1011
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: or even a quarter as spontaneous as the Black Ferns

1012
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: were the other day, or you know, frankly, like, let's

1013
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: just do something that we can actually realistic, realistically achieve

1014
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: if Razer was allowed to bust out his break dancing

1015
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: again now that he's the All Blacks coach. If they

1016
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: did this stuff, the upside for them is that I

1017
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: would stay tuned to Sky TV just a little bit longer.

1018
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 3: I would maybe pay to stream some of the content

1019
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: from the New Ends at our streaming platform. I'm not

1020
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: gonna do that if the players are dull, but I

1021
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: might do it if I'm going to see something that

1022
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: might be slightly entertaining. So actually, New Zealand Rugby and

1023
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 3: its partners like Sky would stand to make a little

1024
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: bit more money off me and other people like me

1025
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: if they just had their players be a little bit

1026
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: more interesting. So I would say, not only do I

1027
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: want it, but it's actually in their best interests financially

1028
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: to be a little bit more like the black ferns

1029
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: Heather Al the sport tudle about it. They're going to

1030
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: be with us shortly. Actually, speaking of rugby, we're going

1031
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: to talk to the Super Rugby Chief executive about the

1032
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: changes they've just rung in today for the format of

1033
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: the game. Now on the Treaty principal spell, David Simmol

1034
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: was waving the white flag. Remember how not that long

1035
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: ago he was saying Chris Luxon could be convinced and

1036
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: if it was popular enough, the Nats would change their

1037
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: minds and so on. He has basically to conceded he's

1038
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: not going to be able to pass this bill. But

1039
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: on the bright side, he's saying that because of what

1040
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: he's doing right now, at some point in the future,

1041
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: a bill like his will pass.

1042
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 13: Was put up the first Youth and Asia Bill in

1043
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 13: nineteen ninety five. He knew that he didn't have a

1044
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 13: snowballs chance at hell, but he made it possible for

1045
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 13: Peter Brown's bill, which lost by only two votes, which

1046
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 13: made it possible for my bill, which won by ten votes,

1047
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 13: actually twenty.

1048
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: It was seventy fifty.

1049
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 13: So you know this is how these things tend to go.

1050
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: So what he's saying is he started a process now

1051
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: that we may see the dividends of in decades to come.

1052
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 3: And basically because he's reduced the eck right, we don't

1053
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: have eck about talking Five years ago, we wouldn't have

1054
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: talked about this, but we talk about this stuff now.

1055
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: But he's also conceded defeat, isn't he.

1056
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh hard questions? Strong opinion ever? Duper?

1057
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: See allan drive with one New Zealand let's get connected

1058
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: and news talk said, be.

1059
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: Your plath and bod he's drinking night.

1060
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 8: You thank him about me.

1061
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: When you're riding where he's driving.

1062
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: Now you live in last week, nimmy, you see when

1063
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: you're plaything he's drinking.

1064
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1065
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: I only want to see raise the breakdowns again when

1066
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: he wins us the World Cup. Well, OK, fair enough,

1067
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: I mean I think that is an occasion for the

1068
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: bosses at end z Art to let him break downs.

1069
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: Don't you think if there's ever a time where the

1070
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: man should be allowed to do his second favorite thing,

1071
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: that should be get We're going to be speaking after

1072
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: six o'clock to a chap called Paul Robinson, who is

1073
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: one of the store owners or building owners on Thorndon

1074
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 3: Key and Wellington. These guys are massively disrupted by roadworks

1075
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: and stuff that are going on there. I thin they're

1076
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: building a cycleway and the council's just decided today that

1077
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: they're going to look at whether they need to give

1078
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: the businesses some money to try to help them through

1079
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: the difficult times. Fifteen hundred dollars, I mean, come off,

1080
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 3: that's like fifteen hundred dollars is not going to do anything.

1081
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 3: You might as well just put the money in your pocket.

1082
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll have a chat to Paul about it

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Speaker 3: after six. I raised this the other day, maybe even yesterday,

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00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: that that I was kind of a little bit surprised

1085
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: that nobody's even slightly worked up about the fact that

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00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: we were supposed to play cricket against Afghanistan, which is

1087
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: a Taliban led place, And Dylan Cleaver, who writes on Sport,

1088
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: has just raised exactly the same with the same thing today.

1089
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: Why is Black Caps Sport in contact with Afghanistan not

1090
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: receiving the same sort of blowback that the All Blacks

1091
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Speaker 3: did when they were playing South Africa in the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a chat to the sports huddle who

1093
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 3: are standing by very shortly. It's twenty three away from.

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00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Six Heather Dupla see Allen.

1095
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: So changes are coming to Super Rugby. The playoffs have

1096
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: been reduced from eight to six teams. Once three of

1097
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: those teams are knocked out, there will be a lucky

1098
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: loser from the losers who makes it through to the

1099
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: final four. And for families this is good news. There

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00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: will also be three Sunday afternoon games. Jack Mesley is

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00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: the chief executive of Super Rugby.

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00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: Hey Jack, Hi, Heather, how are you?

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00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: I'm very well. Do you reckon that what you're doing

1104
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: with the finals and the playoffs is enough to get

1105
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: us interested again?

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00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 19: I certainly hope so, Heather. I think we're really excited

1107
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 19: about the new finals format. We think it's going bring

1108
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 19: a lot of interest at the back end of our

1109
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 19: regular season and certainly provide lots of compelling content throughout

1110
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 19: the final series.

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00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: With the new format, did you think about going further?

1112
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: Did you think about doing things like allowing New Zealand

1113
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 3: based players to go and play in Australia and be

1114
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: traded and stuff like that.

1115
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 19: Well, I'm new in the role, as you know either

1116
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 19: and as is the board, we're certainly looking for all

1117
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 19: opportunities to grow super ugly specific So at the moment,

1118
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 19: certainly nothing's on the nothing's off the table. But right now,

1119
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 19: you know, our key focus has been to reinvigorate the

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00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 19: Final series with this new sixteen format and we're super

1121
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 19: excited by that.

1122
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: So you sound like you've got on an Australian accent,

1123
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: do you?

1124
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 12: I do?

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00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: Do?

1126
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: I mean you would admit that the Australian teams suck

1127
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: and basically need New Zealand players to make them competitive.

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00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 19: Well, what are you to be sure about that the

1129
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 19: Australian teams? Some of the Australian teams had a great

1130
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 19: season or some great rugby content throughout last season, and

1131
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 19: I think with some of the announcement the Aussie teams

1132
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 19: are making at the moment, the squads are shaping up

1133
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 19: really well. And you know, I think what this six

1134
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 19: team finals format actually does is make sure rather than

1135
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 19: eight teams as we've previously had, and as fans have

1136
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 19: sort of told us that they're not that in love

1137
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 19: with the eight team format, it's going to make sure

1138
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 19: that the best teams play the best teams and that's

1139
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 19: going to you know, that's going to provide some great content.

1140
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 19: And we hope that the six teams are made up

1141
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 19: of teams from all around the Pacific, be that Fiji

1142
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 19: with the Drewer, be that the Australian teams or indeed

1143
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 19: Minor PACIFICA and the New Zealand club. So you know,

1144
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 19: we want the best teams to get into the top

1145
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 19: six and we want them to go absolutely hammering times

1146
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 19: to provide some unbelievable rugby content come the back end

1147
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 19: of the season.

1148
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: Jack, I've been told that the Sunday afternoon games a

1149
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 3: use it will lose it. If we don't attend them,

1150
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: you'll just scrap them and go back to Saturday evening games.

1151
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: Is that right.

1152
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 19: I'm a huge fan of Sunday format. We've got to

1153
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 19: make sure that they work both for crowd build but

1154
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 19: also for our great broadcast partners. So yeah, we want

1155
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 19: people there for daytime rugby. We want families to get

1156
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 19: out and see our amazing athletes juke it out, but

1157
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 19: we want to make sure that our broadcast partners are

1158
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 19: happy with it as well. So you know, I think

1159
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 19: We've all worked together to get some Sunday fixtures in there,

1160
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 19: and we wanted to work for all of it, all

1161
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 19: of all of the ecosystem, the broadcasters, the clubs and fans.

1162
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: How will you know if it's a success.

1163
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 19: Well, I mean these days we have lots of data

1164
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 19: to be able to measure success across those different elements.

1165
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 19: So we'll be watching that really carefully and hopefully be

1166
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 19: able to tell it a great story.

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Speaker 3: Jack, It's good to talk to you. Beast of luck

1168
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: with it. That's Jack Measley, Super Rugby's Chief executive twenty

1169
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: away from Sex the.

1170
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst International Realty Exceptional

1171
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Speaker 1: marketing for every property.

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00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 8: I actually like the fact that we've got a Super

1173
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 8: Radio Pacific.

1174
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 19: Board thinking about these things with a fan first mindset.

1175
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 19: How can you get good finals, quality and quantity into

1176
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 19: those weeks.

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Speaker 15: We want everyone and no matter of their gender or

1178
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 15: how they identify, to be able to participate in the

1179
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 15: community sport.

1180
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 20: That is really important, but also that there's fairness in

1181
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 20: the sports and safety.

1182
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: On the sports stitle of us. This evening we have

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00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: Adam Cooper, host of the All Sport breakfast in Wellington

1184
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: and Jason Pine weekend sport host, Hello you too, Hello,

1185
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: hello Piney. How are they going to know if it's

1186
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: a success.

1187
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 21: I think crowd numbers will be a good indicator. I

1188
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 21: think people turn up to watch again. I like the

1189
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 21: afternoon kickoffs Heather. Hopefully there'll be a few on Saturdays

1190
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 21: as well, which I'm hearing there will be.

1191
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1192
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 21: I think the biggest metric is as crowds or the

1193
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 21: most obvious metric is they'll probably ask the teams whether

1194
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 21: they're enjoying themselves. I love the fact that there are

1195
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 21: more derbies. The finals format, I'm not entirely sold on.

1196
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 21: I think it's a little bit confusing with the lucky loser,

1197
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 21: which is I think if you can't explain a concept

1198
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 21: to somebody in less than ten seconds, then you know.

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Speaker 21: I'm not sure it's exactly the right one. I get

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00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 21: that they want more finals games. It really gives them

1201
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 21: one more, but look, I'm willing to be convinced. So yeah,

1202
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 21: I like a lot of what the new format.

1203
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: But it's been a way of doing it because the

1204
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 3: thing is eight was far too many, right and six

1205
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: is about right. Fours too few, six is about right,

1206
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: but then you end up with the weird three.

1207
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 21: Yeah, so do only either way they could have done

1208
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 21: it is one and two get a buy into the semis.

1209
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 21: Three plays six, four plays five for the right to

1210
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 21: play the semi finals. That's more regular, it gives but

1211
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 21: it gives you one less game and they want more games.

1212
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 21: They want, as Jack said, more content. So that's the

1213
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 21: reason they've gone with what they have.

1214
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: What do you reckon, Coops, Yeah, I reckon six are

1215
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 6: still too many? To be honest, you give us four,

1216
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 6: give us the four best team? Just looking at the

1217
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 6: table from this year that the sixth place team was

1218
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 6: the Highlanders, who won six out of their fourteen games.

1219
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 6: Is that playoff worthy? Is that worthy of recognition in

1220
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 6: the chance to go up against the top team? And

1221
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 6: one verse six, which is what is scheduled, is again

1222
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 6: just such a mismatch. I think whatever, you know, quality

1223
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 6: over quantity in terms of the content that they want,

1224
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 6: and that first round of the playoffs for me, these

1225
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 6: last few seasons has been the most uninspiring sort of

1226
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 6: portion of Super rugby from the year because predominantly it's

1227
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 6: got two or three mismatch matches.

1228
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: So, Coops, you've struck on something that I think I

1229
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: was kind of getting at with Jack just before, which is, Yep,

1230
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: it's changes and look, it's going to be better than

1231
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: it was, but it really doesn't go far enough, Like

1232
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: you have to. If you want to save this particular format,

1233
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: You've got to go a lot harder, don't you think.

1234
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean I'm sort of just of the view.

1235
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 6: There's eleven teams next year, and you know, more than

1236
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 6: half of them are going to make the playoffs, which

1237
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 6: I just think is not the right format. Take it

1238
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 6: to four, I have two weeks of grueling, exciting, couple

1239
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 6: of rugby games to decide semi five lists, and then

1240
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 6: the finalists maybe have a you know, third verse fourth playoffs.

1241
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: So you get four games as part of a you know,

1242
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 6: intense high high fun and an intense playoff series for

1243
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 6: everyone to watch and enjoy and really reward the teams

1244
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 6: and make them fight for those top four spots during

1245
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 6: the year. But I do think, you know, the biggest

1246
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 6: measure is people actually getting along, being involved with the teams,

1247
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 6: feeling connection with fans, and I do get the sense

1248
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 6: that rugby, especially you know, some of the super rugby

1249
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 6: clubs around New Zealand are starting to have that wake

1250
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 6: up call and treat fans a little bit more like family,

1251
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 6: have them involved, have players out of the community a

1252
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 6: lot more. And that's just such a big part of

1253
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 6: keeping people integrated in the game of rugby as well.

1254
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: Poney, listen, what do you make of my argument that

1255
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: the black all Blacks need to stop being so boring

1256
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: and be a bit more like the black Ferns.

1257
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 21: Well, I think I mean what I've found in my

1258
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 21: in my life, admittedly a bit of a sheltered one, Heather,

1259
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 21: is that is that females are, on the whole a

1260
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 21: lot more interesting than males most of the time.

1261
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 18: Anyone.

1262
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 21: You know that they're better talkers, they're better conversation lists.

1263
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 21: They seem to they seem to be able to, you know,

1264
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 21: to connect with with others a lot more.

1265
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: I think that's so unfair. Look look at the two

1266
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: of you. You're on the sports title with me this evening,

1267
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: and you're great talkers.

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00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 21: Pioney, Well, I think most people are tuned in for

1269
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 21: you hither, that's the thing. But look, I love how

1270
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 21: authentic the black ferns are. Look, and I love how

1271
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 21: disarming they are so much so that you know, snooty

1272
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 21: old King Charles was quite happy to have a hug

1273
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 21: with them, you know, go against royal pronio. Look, anything

1274
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 21: that connects us as fans to our teams, it has

1275
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 21: to be a good thing. And like I say, the

1276
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 21: Black Ferns seem to have struck a magic formula under

1277
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 21: which actually it doesn't actually matter how they go on

1278
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 21: the field. Well, that's important. They have have found a

1279
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 21: real deep, old use word again connection with us, which

1280
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 21: a lot of other teams could take, could take real

1281
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 21: note the coops.

1282
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: I think there is financial upside in this for the

1283
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: All Blacks if they stopped being so dull, because I

1284
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: think that they would actually get us to stay tuned

1285
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: for longer, consume more content, maybe even buy more merchandise

1286
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: with their name on it if we like them, don't you.

1287
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 6: Think, Well, I think it's just been the case that

1288
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 6: you know that there have been such a professional arm

1289
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 6: and professional organization, and you know, Mammoth won at that

1290
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 6: for so long that there it is just almost a

1291
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 6: machine that you know, things are very controlled, things are

1292
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 6: very sort of done by the book, and there isn't

1293
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 6: that chance necessarily for that character of a lot of

1294
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 6: these players to come out. You know, you talk to

1295
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 6: some of these players just around the traps and outside

1296
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 6: of a formal interview situation, they are just as funny.

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Speaker 6: They are just as exciting and charismatic as some of

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Speaker 6: these black fans are. But there's often just been a

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Speaker 6: line that's that's been put between them and between them

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Speaker 6: and the media.

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Speaker 3: So who is charismatic in the all Blacks?

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Speaker 6: Oh, there's plenty of players. I can say that they

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Speaker 6: have great fun. They are fantastic. We just don't see it.

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Speaker 6: You don't see it because those walls are up and

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Speaker 6: the moment I think we will see them.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who it is? Coops? Are you still there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: I'll put you on the spot here. If you name

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Speaker 3: an interesting all black, is it going to reveal who

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Speaker 3: your drinking buddy is?

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Speaker 6: As example, new All Black? This, Yeah, Pussily a TOSSI

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Speaker 6: fantastic guy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just drinking.

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Speaker 8: I'm as drinking buddy, are ye?

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Speaker 20: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Jeseus? Well, if he's interesting, I'll be as drinking buddy Pinney.

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Speaker 2: I reckon.

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Speaker 3: Jordie Barrett strikes me as quite a fun guy. He

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Speaker 3: could be quite fun.

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Speaker 21: Coops, is need, right though, you know that these are

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Speaker 21: guys who perhaps, and again I wonder whether it's a

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Speaker 21: not entirely, but it is a bit of a male thing.

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Speaker 21: We don't like to sort of put ourselves out there

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Speaker 21: too much, you know, these guys are they're rugby players.

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Speaker 21: At the end of the day, not everybody loves public speaking,

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Speaker 21: you know, not everybody loves the media. Odders that may sound,

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Speaker 21: you know, inside their own inside their own environments. I'm

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Speaker 21: sure they're just like any other bunch of guys who

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Speaker 21: check a little bit of jib around at one another,

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Speaker 21: who do have a laugh, but you know they are

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Speaker 21: also in a pretty different position from say me and

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Speaker 21: Coops or or anybody who happens to be listening in

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Speaker 21: this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, all right, we'll take a break, come

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Speaker 3: back with you guys shortly as coming up thirteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst International Realty,

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Speaker 3: Back with the sports tititle. Coops, tell me what you

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Speaker 3: think about that letter from the former Olympians which came

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Speaker 3: out this week. Do you think that community sports should

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Speaker 3: or should not include transgender athletes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to struggle to sit here and argue

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Speaker 6: one way or the other because there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: science to read through that you know, there's many different options.

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Speaker 6: But I think there's what there's a couple of things

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Speaker 6: that I think, you know, it needs to be discussed here,

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Speaker 6: and that's that when you've got fifty Olympians with the

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Speaker 6: likes of Barbara Kendall's name on a letter and a

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Speaker 6: Stanley's name, Jeremy Stanley, that they can't be discounted by

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Speaker 6: the Sports Minister when when looking at some guidelines and

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Speaker 6: I think one general guideline which Sport New Zealand have

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Speaker 6: for all community sport probably is going to be looked

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Speaker 6: at and tweaked and probably can't be the status quo

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Speaker 6: because I think you need more than just former athletes

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Speaker 6: to weigh into this. You need stakeholders and you pretty

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Speaker 6: much need I think the community sport model to do

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Speaker 6: what all sports around the world and are doing, and

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Speaker 6: they're doing their own research as to their particular sports

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Speaker 6: and they are deciding it amongst themselves, not one blanket

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Speaker 6: rule for all. So it's going to be really interesting

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Speaker 6: to see what Chris Bishop and the government do around here.

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Speaker 6: It's almost a damned if you do, damned if you

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Speaker 6: don't situation. Considering that, you know the often hostile debate

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Speaker 6: it can be. But you get the sense that he

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Speaker 6: is looking to maybe change some of those community guidelines,

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Speaker 6: which will be really interesting.

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Speaker 3: I've conflicted on this one, Piney, because I mean, I

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Speaker 3: really want everybody to be able to go and have

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Speaker 3: a run around on a field just like normal punters,

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Speaker 3: like we do on a Wednesday night or whatever with

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Speaker 3: our mates. But then I don't want a woman to

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Speaker 3: be bashed into by a transgender woman and really hurt.

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Speaker 12: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, to balances, and you've got to balance these things diversity, opportunity,

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Speaker 21: fairness and safety, I think, and you know, at a

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Speaker 21: community level, they're all important. The high you go into

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Speaker 21: the elite competitive side of things, feness becomes elevated, I think,

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Speaker 21: and that's where we get a lot of the robust

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Speaker 21: debate around when you know, when it just seems unfair

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Speaker 21: to people, that's not fair that those two are up

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Speaker 21: against one another. Unfortunately, what this debate does is brings

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Speaker 21: out the worst and people on both sides of the spectrum.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's just.

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Speaker 21: People out here yelling at the rain most of the time,

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Speaker 21: you know. So look, I don't think I'm going to

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Speaker 21: find lants either, but there has to be a balance

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Speaker 21: strike at both community and elite levels.

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Speaker 3: For me, I don't have a lot of time coopsball.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon? Should we be outraged that the

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Speaker 3: Black Caps we're going to play Afghanistan?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look, I think every if you look

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Speaker 6: into different sports in different worlds where money comes from,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you'd be stopping all sport if you were

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Speaker 6: counting out you know, immoral actions, you know, bad money,

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Speaker 6: all all that kind of stuff. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 6: we want the Flat Caps to play cricket and one

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Speaker 6: off test against Afghanistan. I wasn't too uncomfortable like that.

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Speaker 6: I am uncomfortable about the scheduling.

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Speaker 20: To be honest.

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Speaker 3: Here is that the thing that got your goat pony?

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Speaker 21: It was, yeah, Look, she's a cricket test and I'm

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Speaker 21: on soon season. It's like having a one day International

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Speaker 21: and napier. If you wanted to reign and nap you

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Speaker 21: just chid a cricket mats.

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Speaker 10: There.

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Speaker 3: Jesus tells us a lot about our morals, guys. I

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Speaker 3: really appreciate the pair of you, Adam Cooper, Jason Pine

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Speaker 3: our sports title this evening seven away from six Pine.

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Speaker 1: You're a smart speaker on the Aheart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand and one Giant Leap for

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Speaker 1: business US talk as they.

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Speaker 3: Be the maybe Razor and ray Gun could dance off

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Speaker 3: at halftime when the All Blacks play Australia. You mark

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: you should be running the New Zealand Rugby Union with

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Speaker 3: ideas like that, because that's a fantastic idea. I'd stay

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Speaker 3: tuned for a very long time for that, wouldn't you. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Eden Park, I am loving Eden Park's commitment to concerts.

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Speaker 3: They are going hell for leather on this. They have

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Speaker 3: knocked down one of the stands. This is the Lower

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Speaker 3: West Stand and basically that why they've taken the standout

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Speaker 3: is because it was basically getting in the way of

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Speaker 3: people being able to stand on the ground and watch concerts.

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Speaker 3: So in a weird way, they're almost prior almost They're

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Speaker 3: probably gonna hate me for saying this, but almost prioritizing

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Speaker 3: concerts over sports fixtures. Now it's almost and not quite

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Speaker 3: because it was twelve hundred permanent seats that they're taking

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Speaker 3: out right, and what it gives them is potentially up

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Speaker 3: to ten thousand spectators at a concert. So you can

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Speaker 3: see that the maths makes it work. They reckon that

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Speaker 3: taking out the twelve hundred twelve hundred seats. You can

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Speaker 3: sort of replace the capacity by having a standing room

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Speaker 3: area or some temporary stand standard temporary seating or a

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Speaker 3: retractable stand or something, so they can kind of make

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Speaker 3: it back. But they are I mean, I'm choosing to

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Speaker 3: see this as a prioritization of the concerts. That is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I love that it's going to rip some people's nineties

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Speaker 3: in Mountain. But anyway, we'll see how they go with

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: this little thing trying to get twelve twelve concerts across

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Speaker 3: the line, because that's still a process that's happening. The

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Speaker 3: latest thing, by the way, it's four away from six.

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Speaker 3: The latest thing is you can now buy coffee that's

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Speaker 3: made from whatever, but it's not made from coffee beans.

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Speaker 3: This is this is how, this is how intense people

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Speaker 3: are getting about worrying about their habits herting the planet

1446
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 3: because apparently coffee is really bad for the planet because

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Speaker 3: it's one of the biggest de foresters in the world

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Speaker 3: right and that's not good for climate change, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. So now what they're doing is they've tried

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Speaker 3: for the longest time to make a product that tastes

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Speaker 3: like coffee and gives you a caffeine hit, and they

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Speaker 3: haven't been able to pit. This particular company called a

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Speaker 3: Tomo has But get a load of this. This is

1454
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: what they make the coffee out of date seeds, ramon seeds,

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: sunflower seed extract, fructose, pea protein, millet, lemon, guava, finugrick seeds,

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Speaker 3: caffeine like processed fake caffeine that they're now putting in

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Speaker 3: and baking soda. So I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 3: if I had to choose between that gigantic list that

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Speaker 3: reads like a novel, putting that into me or just

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Speaker 3: putting in a bit of coffee, I'm gonna go that

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Speaker 3: maybe the coffee is more healthy. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: But you know you do you Now you can have

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Speaker 3: a coffee, you can go out, you can order a

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Speaker 3: self a coffee. It's got no coffee in it and

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Speaker 3: no milk. So what if you're drinking is not even

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Speaker 3: a coffee anymore. Headlines next.

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Speaker 2: Keeping track of where.

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Speaker 1: The money is flowing with a business hour with the

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Speaker 1: Duplicylan and my Hr on news talks.

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Speaker 3: Atv even in coming up in the next hour. Apparently

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Speaker 3: foreign companies are getting real cold feet about investing in China.

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Speaker 3: Peter Lewis will where the shortly talk us through that

1473
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Speaker 3: very soball wrap the political week that was in Gavin

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Speaker 3: Gray is with us out of the UK at seven

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Speaker 3: past six. Now Wellington Council has voted in favor of

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Speaker 3: having a look at whether they should give businesses on

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Speaker 3: Wellington's Thornton Key a micro grant. This would help them

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Speaker 3: stay afloat during ongoing roadworks and disturbances. But the microground

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Speaker 3: grant is worth just fifteen hundred dollars. Paul Robinson is

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Speaker 3: the chairman of the Thornton Key Collective, which represents the

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Speaker 3: area's business. As he Paul high Heather, fifteen hundred bucks

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a lot. Is it going to help?

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Speaker 20: Well, it won't help. It's just a distraction from the

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Speaker 20: real issues, which are what.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 20: The real issues are that businesses are facing a downturn

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Speaker 20: along Thornton Key that is far more severe than any

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Speaker 20: downturn that's been caused by the economic circumstances. We presented

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Speaker 20: a petition to Wellington City Council two years ago asking

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Speaker 20: them to do an external review of the likely impacts

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Speaker 20: of this roading project on businesses, and they refuse to

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Speaker 20: do it. They turned us down. The economic consequences have

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Speaker 20: been vastly in excess of what anybody anticipated. So we

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Speaker 20: present another petition asking them to do that and also

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Speaker 20: look at other issues such as the pipes that run

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Speaker 20: under Thornton Key that need replacing, and looking actually at

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Speaker 20: their original business case. But we get knocked back again.

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Speaker 3: So the disruption that's caused you is the removal of

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Speaker 3: the car parks and all the digging up of the

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Speaker 3: ground and all of that kind of stuff. Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 3: And how much do you reckon it's cost your business?

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Speaker 20: Well, we own one of the old historic buildings. My

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Speaker 20: family's got the old Wall store down in Thornton Key,

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Speaker 20: and you know, that's been a wonderful community over the

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Speaker 20: last twenty years and it's never really had any vacancy.

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Speaker 20: But now you know, we've got four vacancy out of

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Speaker 20: the twenty odd tenancies. In there and more will emerge

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Speaker 20: in the coming year.

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Speaker 3: And have you done the numbers? Have you any idea

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Speaker 3: how much this has cost you?

1511
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 13: Oh?

1512
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 20: Look, I could hazard a guess. We will know when

1513
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 20: the qvs come out. But it's millions. Well that's a

1514
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 20: twenty million dollar building, and who knows whether it's had

1515
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 20: thirty forty percent of its value knocked off, So you're

1516
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 20: talking multiples of millions, Paul.

1517
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: How long is this this disruption supposed to carry on for.

1518
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 20: Well, it should be finished by the middle of next year.

1519
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 20: The difficulty we've had with that is that the communication

1520
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 20: has said you'll only be disrupted for twelve weeks while

1521
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 20: work happens outside your building. But the reality is, for

1522
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 20: anybody who goes down Thornton Key, you see we've been

1523
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 20: orange cone orange coned basically from our navel to our neck.

1524
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 20: How longe, Oh, for the whole eighteen months.

1525
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 3: So are you telling me so they've given you fifteen

1526
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: hundred dollars for eighteen months worth of disruptions, not even

1527
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 3: a thousand bucks a month. Oh hell no, what is

1528
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: this money supposed to do?

1529
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 22: Like?

1530
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: Who were they kidding? What is fifteen hundred dollars supposed

1531
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 3: to do well.

1532
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 20: I know what I'm going to if we get fifteen

1533
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 20: hundred bucks, I probably should share it with my brother

1534
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 20: and two sisters. But actually probably what I will do

1535
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 20: is I'll probably go down to the Capitol restaurant and

1536
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 20: have a fifteen hundred dollar lunch.

1537
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 3: I think, why don't you spend it on an advert

1538
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: in the local paper telling everybody how annoying the counsel is.

1539
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 20: We have spent a lot of time on social media

1540
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 20: telling the public how annoyed we are with the council,

1541
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 20: and we have a huge following. If I put a

1542
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 20: poster tomorrow, I'll get six or seven thousand people acknowledging

1543
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 20: that post.

1544
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 3: Paul, thank you for your time, Best of luck dealing

1545
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: with these numpties. It's Paul Robinson Thornton Key Collective chairman.

1546
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 3: That's what I would do with the money. If they

1547
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 3: gave you fifteen hundred bucks, which wasn't going to do

1548
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 3: jack to help you to last, wouldn't you just spend

1549
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 3: it on something completely different like put an ad in

1550
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 3: the local paper. And if every business took out an

1551
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: ad with their fifteen hundred bucks, you could just keep

1552
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 3: that thing going for ages, just constant stream of ads

1553
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: telling the council how dumb they are.

1554
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 23: I quite like the idea of the fifteen hundred dollars

1555
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 23: lunch as well here because you know, you know how,

1556
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 23: there's always that thing on the menu where it's like

1557
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 23: a two hundred year old vodka that was made by

1558
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 23: monks and like a Russian monastery, and it costs you, like,

1559
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 23: you know, one hundred and fifty dollars for a glass.

1560
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 23: You know you could find if you're having a fifteen

1561
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 23: hundred dollar lunch, you could finally order all that stuff.

1562
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 3: It'd be great, you could do that. Yeah. I like

1563
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: where you're going with the sands. Make make the thing

1564
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: work for you. But then you'd literally it'll be gone.

1565
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 3: What about if you just took the fifteen hundred bucks

1566
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 3: and took out a billboard in the middle of town

1567
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: about what numbtie the councils are.

1568
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 23: Well, yeah, I suppose that's probably more likely to help

1569
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 23: you your business get back here.

1570
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: I feel like I get more satisfaction out of the

1571
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,879
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred bucks that I would spend on a billboard

1572
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: that I could continue to look at, as opposed to

1573
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: a drink that I would just drink. A big and

1574
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: it'd be gone. What do you think, maybe just one

1575
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: glass of the fog? Give okay, one glass of the vodka,

1576
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: and then the rest goes on. Ads and billboards got

1577
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: the numbers for you on how many people in the

1578
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 3: US watched the debate. It was big, It was really big.

1579
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 3: It was sixty seven million people. Now how you know

1580
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: that's big is because the Biden and Donald Trump debate,

1581
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: which was already big, was fifty one million. So fifty

1582
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 3: one million shot up to sixty seven million. That'll be why.

1583
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: And you know how Trump loves a crowd size, so

1584
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: that would really that will be ripping his ninety about

1585
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 3: how badly he did in the debate to his you know,

1586
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 3: apparently and had lost it. Bad news for Boeing. Thirty

1587
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 3: three thousand of their workers are going to go on

1588
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: strike tomorrow morning. This is their first strike in sixteen years.

1589
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: And I think we can all agree this is not

1590
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: what Boeing needs right now. Boeing's planes suck, Boeing's got

1591
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: a couple of people stuck up in space they can't

1592
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 3: get back.

1593
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1594
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: Bowen's workers are going to go on strike too. Union

1595
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: members voted against a proposed four year contract here's the

1596
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: interesting bit. Even the union leadership says this was the

1597
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 3: best deal it had ever negotiated with the airline. Would

1598
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: have given staff pay raises, pay rises, get this of

1599
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 3: at least twenty five percent, would have increased their job security.

1600
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: But they're still going on strike. Coming up fourteen past.

1601
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: Six, crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather

1602
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: dupicy Ellen with the business.

1603
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: Hours thanks to my HR, the HR platform for SME

1604
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: on newstalksb Right.

1605
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 3: Here's the point. This is what's going on on Thorndon Key,

1606
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 3: just so you can understand what's going on going on

1607
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 3: with Paul's business Hither. I went up thorn and Key yesterday.

1608
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: I thought I'd go to Bordeaux Bakery for lunch. It

1609
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: was conageddon, zero parks anywhere, so I just kept on

1610
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 3: driving a founder park in Featherston Street and I went

1611
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 3: to Astoria instead. Councils are destroying business. That's from Andy, Andy,

1612
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: thank you for putting that in perspective. Right, it's coming

1613
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 3: up seventeen parsix to wrap the political week that WASR.

1614
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 3: Soper is our senior political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, Heather.

1615
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: See Donald Trump doesn't want a second debate.

1616
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, it doesn't come as any surprise.

1617
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: To me at all, because he knew he lost the

1618
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: last one.

1619
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 9: And indeed, Carmala Harris or Camilla Harris.

1620
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 3: Or Carmela going to be painful.

1621
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 10: I know it is for you.

1622
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 9: That's not for me because I sort of know how

1623
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 9: to say it. But anyway, oh, Carmala Harris. She is

1624
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 9: champion at the bit to have another debate with Donald Trump.

1625
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 9: But not surprisingly, Donald Trump isn't interested. And you know,

1626
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 9: when you look at the lead up to this debate,

1627
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 9: the big question being asked was whether Harris what would

1628
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 9: be a match for Donald Trump. Well, not only was

1629
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 9: she a match, she annihilated him in my view. I mean,

1630
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 9: and I know the contention, and it's a contention than

1631
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 9: you hold, and I think it's a pretty good one

1632
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 9: when you think about it.

1633
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 8: That you know, when he.

1634
01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 9: Talks about Hiatian refugees eating cats and dogs and family pets,

1635
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 9: He's seen one television program that maybe portrayed that, But

1636
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 9: the fact that he said it, what are we talking

1637
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 9: about when it comes to the debate exactly? And so,

1638
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 9: like you've said, it's not going to make a great

1639
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 9: deal of difference to the people that will or will

1640
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 9: not vote for Donald Trump because you know he's known.

1641
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 9: You know, it's a game that politicians do. Plan you

1642
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 9: think of our own example in this country. Dare I

1643
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 9: say at our old mate Winston Peters, when he mentioned

1644
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 9: Nazis in his State of the Nation address, what was

1645
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 9: the media talking about Nazis? So you know, politicians are

1646
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 9: good at throwing something out there. The media will clamor

1647
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 9: for it, and rightly so, I guess. But you know

1648
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 9: that's the only thing that debate is remembered for that

1649
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 9: and executing babies, which is patently This is.

1650
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 3: Not always true, but it is true with Donald Trump

1651
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 3: all the time. There is no such thing as a

1652
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: bad headline no for him. Okay, did you hear do

1653
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: not Donald? Sorry, David Seymour cheese, I'm going to cop it.

1654
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 9: Se now having problem with names as well.

1655
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1656
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: Did you hear David Seymour's comment about the Treaty Principal's

1657
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 3: Bill today when he was doing that press conference. Yes,

1658
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 3: And what he said you will have noticed this. What

1659
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: he said was basically, even if he doesn't get the

1660
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 3: Treaty Principal's Bill across the line this time, he has

1661
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 3: reduced the X factor in us talking about this, So

1662
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 3: at some stage it will happen, do you believe?

1663
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 21: Oh?

1664
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 9: Absolutely. I mean it's like, dare I say it? The

1665
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 9: changing of the flag issue that John Key raised and

1666
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 9: was debated for months upon months, and now we think

1667
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 9: about that and every time I look at our flag,

1668
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 9: I've got to say I think about it. But you know,

1669
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 9: the same principle applies to David Seymour and the Treaty

1670
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 9: Principal's Bill, because I think a bill that we haven't

1671
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 9: even seen yet, but I think further down the track

1672
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 9: we've been thinking about it. They may go into the

1673
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 9: next election and there won't be any bill in existence,

1674
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 9: but it's still been out there and there's nothing to

1675
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 9: stop in a new coalition government. David seymore raising the issue,

1676
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 9: I think.

1677
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 3: You may find when we go to the twenty twenty

1678
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 3: six election there may well be a bill. Because one

1679
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 3: of the possibilities is that it doesn't get It doesn't

1680
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 3: even come up for a second for a third vote, right,

1681
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: it doesn't even come up for a third vote. It

1682
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: languishes on the order paper in the way that the

1683
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: kermit X Bill had languished in the order paper. We

1684
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 3: go to the twenty twenty six election with it's still

1685
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: sitting on the order paper and David Seymour runs on

1686
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: that as his platform and.

1687
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 9: It doesn't even have to sit on the order paper.

1688
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 9: I mean, he can reinstitute it himself, redraft it, stick

1689
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 9: it back in the max.

1690
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 3: But it's better for him if it's still sitting and

1691
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: it hasn't been deleted, because it's still sitting there, and

1692
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: he can go to the twenty six election and say,

1693
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 3: you know how we didn't vote on that, let's go. Yeah,

1694
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: you know.

1695
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 9: I can't help thinking why the National Party is so

1696
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 9: opposed to it. I would think that most well polls

1697
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 9: have shown that most of its voters believe that there

1698
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 9: should be a treaty more defined than it has been.

1699
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: I think you would think that traditionally the Conservative National

1700
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 3: Party voters, you're right, have got tired of this nonsense

1701
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: with like government departments giving eight percent of their contracts

1702
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: to marty businesses, because the marty businesses.

1703
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 9: Like we talked about earlier.

1704
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Ks Luxen and Nikola Willis have got the ick. Yeah,

1705
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 3: it makes them feel gross and weird. Well it does,

1706
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 3: and they don't want to go there.

1707
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know why. I think they should have

1708
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 9: the courage to go there, but nevertheless they apparently lack that.

1709
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 9: And David Seama, I don't think David Team was coming

1710
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 9: out of this looking that bad. I think it's fair

1711
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 9: that these sorts of things are raised. Surely this country

1712
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 9: is mature enough as a nation to debate these issues.

1713
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 9: But it would seem not when we've got the Treaty,

1714
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 9: the Waitangi Tribunal out there stirring the pot constantly. You

1715
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 9: can see why there are some in the political system

1716
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 9: at the moment that would like to get rid of it,

1717
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 9: because the only ones that are becoming rich out of

1718
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 9: the Waitangi Tribunal are the lawyers appearing.

1719
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 3: Before it very quickly. Has Darlene convinced you?

1720
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 5: No?

1721
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 9: Still not No, she hasn't convinced me at all. I'll

1722
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 9: tell you why, Heather. And it's unfortunate because I haven't

1723
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 9: seen the full report, and I haven't seen how she

1724
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 9: was implicated fully in her husband's business. And I was

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 9: talking to somebody that's very seen in the very senior

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Speaker 9: in the Green Party today and in fact they haven't

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01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 9: seen the report either. And the Minushai of exactly what

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 9: was arrived at to get kicked out of the party

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Speaker 9: the way they did it. Constitutionally, they may have a problem,

1730
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 9: but I think you'll see the woker jumping legislation will

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01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 9: be enacted in very short order when the judge, probably

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Speaker 9: in about a week's time, comes down with his decision.

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Speaker 3: Barry, thank you very much, appreciate it, Bary so, SENIORR

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Speaker 3: political correspondent, rapping the political week that was hither. The

1735
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: problem is not just the council, it's also Tory fun

1736
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: who's the mayor? Forget fifteen hundred bucks and give the

1737
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: retailers their bloody car parks back. I'll tell you what,

1738
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 3: if they had the choice between the car parks and

1739
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred bucks, that take the car parks, wouldn't they

1740
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 3: And let's understand what this fifteen hundred bucks is. This

1741
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 3: is basically a pr payment. It's designed to make the

1742
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 3: council look like it's trying to help businesses. Because what

1743
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: happened in the last week. Pandora closed down, if it Edwards,

1744
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 3: the florists closed down, Egmont Street, each tree closed like

1745
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of businesses have closed down, and so

1746
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: they know they look bad, like they're business killers, and

1747
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 3: they give them it just a tiny bit of money

1748
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: to make them go away. That's all this is. It's

1749
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 3: not actually designed to do anything. Six twenty three.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Alan and my HR

1752
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: The HR Solution for busy smys on News talks'b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, beam scooters have just been banned from Wellington. I

1754
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 3: think they're pulled off a couple of weeks ago, pulled

1755
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Speaker 3: off the roads or something. But they've been bound. They've

1756
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 3: had the license suspended or removed or whatever. So it's

1757
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Speaker 3: Auckland down Wellington now that beams beams were being taken off.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this Out of Australia okay. By the way,

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 3: twenty six PAS six nineteen year old kid appeared in

1760
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,839
Speaker 3: front of a magistrate this week in Waverley on drug chargers.

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Speaker 3: He appeared there because he was picked up near the

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Speaker 3: Royal Bondie Hotel on Friday last month when the cops

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01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 3: were targeting a diala dealer drug supplies. This is when

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Speaker 3: you send a text and say I want some coke

1765
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 3: and then they come around or whatever. Anyway, so the

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01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: cops were watching the hotel, which is a pub. They

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Speaker 3: saw a man leave the hotel get into the passenger

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Speaker 3: seat of this kid's car at about twenty to nine,

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Speaker 3: and the man got out again twenty seconds later, so

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Speaker 3: obviously it was a drug deal. So the cops stopped

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Speaker 3: them and found the guy had cocaine. And the kid

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01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 3: had seven six hundred bucks Australian in a lollipop container

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Speaker 3: and eight bags of cocaine. So he's appeared before the magistrate,

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Speaker 3: Michael Barco, and this magistrate rips him one a This,

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Speaker 3: by the way, is the third drug supply case that

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 3: this magistrate had dealt with in less than two hours.

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Speaker 3: The magistrate says to the nineteen year old kid, you

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01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: with respect, are an idiot. You all think you're such

1779
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: gangsters you come out to the Eastern suburbs with your

1780
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 3: encrypted fhones. We are sick of it, he says. He

1781
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: then says to this kid that he was tired of

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Speaker 3: drug dealers, assuming that the court would give them just

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01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 3: a slap on the wrist. So he thought jail now

1784
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 3: basically had to happen to address these dialer dealer operations.

1785
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: And he said to the nineteen year old, pass the

1786
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 3: word around around amongst you mates and think about cooperating

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Speaker 3: with the cops. And he also said that the kid

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01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 3: had been selling gram bags of cocaine, but the grand

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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: bags only weighed zero point six grams, which made him

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Speaker 3: a dishonest thief, which is even worse than just being

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Speaker 3: a drug dealer. This kid's back in court next month

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Speaker 3: for sentencing, and the magistrate told him to bring his

1793
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 3: tooth brush a brush as in to say, you're going

1794
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: to jail this. Can we bring this guy to the

1795
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 3: courts here because I love the sound of him. He'd work, wonders,

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01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't he headlines? Next, then Peter Lewis to.

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Speaker 2: Start crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen with a business hour thanks to

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01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: my HR, the HR solution for busy semis on news

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Speaker 1: talks stuff works, Shott, what.

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Speaker 3: Have I been telling you about? The UK government got

1802
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: another weird little thing that they're doing. They're gonna ban

1803
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 3: junk food adverts being shown on Tally before nine o'clock.

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01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Gavin Gray about it when he's

1805
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: with us shortly. So this is quite fascinating all the way.

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Speaker 3: Back in September, a bunch of researchers around the world,

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 3: in fact, all of these senses around the world picked

1808
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: up something that had happened. It was a seismic signal,

1809
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 3: and they all picked it up in September and they

1810
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 3: couldn't figure out what it was, and it was going

1811
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 3: on for about nine days. So they all had the chat,

1812
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Speaker 3: the chat websites whatever, like I don't know scientist WhatsApp

1813
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Speaker 3: groups or whatever. You know, I don't know scientistsar us

1814
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: dot com started chatting about like what's going on, look

1815
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Speaker 3: at the senses of doing this, And eventually, after a

1816
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 3: lot of sleuth work, they managed to figure out that

1817
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Speaker 3: what had happened was that there was a mess. And

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Speaker 3: it's obviously take them a long time, like this is

1819
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: a full year later that they're telling us what they found.

1820
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Speaker 3: They found that a massive landslide had happened in a

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Speaker 3: greenland field, and the landslide was so big it had

1822
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: basically set off a wave that was something like two

1823
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: hundred meters big, and because it was in a fjord,

1824
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 3: the wave couldn't just roll out to sea and sort

1825
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Speaker 3: of have its energy dissipate. It sloshed back and forth

1826
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Speaker 3: for nine days, and that was what they were picking up.

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01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 3: And it was so big, the sloshing back and forth

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01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 3: for nine days, that it literally shook the earth. How

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Speaker 3: fascinating is that? Twenty three away from.

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Speaker 2: Seven forgiver sel.

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Speaker 3: Peter lewis our Asia business correspondence with US. Peter, Hello, Hello, Heather.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing in Bangkok? Peter?

1833
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Speaker 24: Escaping from Hong Kong for a little bit. I've actually

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Speaker 24: been in India in Bangalore, India for the last four days,

1835
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Speaker 24: hosting a moderating an Indian investment conference. So I'm sort

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01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 24: of coming back through Bangkok for a few days, which

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01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 24: is a very very pleasant place in Asia to spend

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Speaker 24: some time.

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Speaker 3: Have to say, as the food is outstanding, enjoyed. I'm

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Speaker 3: jealous of you. Now over in the in the EU,

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01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 3: I see Spain wants the EU to ditch those massive tariffs,

1842
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Speaker 3: aren't they.

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Speaker 21: This is very.

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Speaker 24: Significant because this is quite a six living a turnarounds

1845
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 24: from Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez. He was in Beijing

1846
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Speaker 24: at the beginning of the week, met with President she

1847
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 24: and has come away saying that the EU needs to

1848
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 24: rethink this whole idea of tariffs on electric vehicle imports

1849
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 24: into the European Union. Now, this has been a big

1850
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 24: thing for the EU because it's claiming that, in effect,

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Speaker 24: China is dumping its over capacity, it's over supplys It's

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01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 24: car makers are getting enormous subsidies from the governments, which

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Speaker 24: is allowing them to undercut car manufacturers all over the world.

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Speaker 24: It's causing big problems for EU manufacturers. We're hearing a

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Speaker 24: Volkswagen for example, you know, talking about shutting plants, laying

1856
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 24: people off because of this flood of electric vehicles. So

1857
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 24: the EU solution was tariffs. They put tariffs on on

1858
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 24: on a U on Chinese vehicle manufacturers, depending upon how

1859
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 24: much that particular manufacturer cooperated with the EU investigation. But

1860
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 24: it's up to almost fifty percent. But now Spain, a

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 24: key member of the EU, is backing down. Now this

1862
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 24: is a sort of a success for Jiji Ping's divide

1863
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 24: and conquer strategy. What he had been hoping to do

1864
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Speaker 24: was split the EU on this issue, and one of

1865
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Speaker 24: the things he did was he targeted an anti dump

1866
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Speaker 24: investigation into pork. Now, pork is a key Spanish export

1867
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 24: to China. In fact, all over the world, but particularly

1868
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 24: to China, and I think this is obviously rattled Prime

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Speaker 24: Minister Pedro Sanchez. Now, whether this is enough to affect

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Speaker 24: the votes that's due to take place next month, which

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01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 24: would make these tariffs on EU vehicles permanent, well, we're

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Speaker 24: not sure because Spain was one of the countries the

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01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 24: eleven countries that originally voted in July on increasing the tariffs.

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Speaker 24: So it'll be interesting to see now what happens in October.

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Speaker 3: Do we have any eye deal whether there are others

1876
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: who also secretly feel the same.

1877
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Speaker 8: I suspect there are.

1878
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Speaker 24: We know some countries have spoken out quite openly about it.

1879
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 24: Victor Orban, the Prime Minister Hungry, has said so. I

1880
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 24: suspect there are, because the last thing the EU can

1881
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 24: afford to have at the moment is a trade war

1882
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Speaker 24: with China. Its economy is pretty well on the verge

1883
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 24: of stagnation at the moments, particularly Germany's economy. There may

1884
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 24: even be signs of stagflation, with the economy not growing

1885
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 24: but inflation still moving higher. The ECB's just cut interest

1886
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 24: rates yesterday. It would almost certainly have to cut interest

1887
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 24: rates again before the end of the year. I personally

1888
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 24: think the EU is going to have to move far

1889
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 24: more than the fedies on cutting rates because It's economy

1890
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 24: has got sculosis at the moment, it's just struggling across

1891
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 24: all front.

1892
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Speaker 3: Peter, you will have seen the fact that Chinas asked

1893
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: its car makers to keep the technology that they have

1894
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Speaker 3: at home.

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01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 24: Do you think that they will, Well, if they're told

1896
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 24: by the governments, absolutely they will, because I don't think

1897
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 24: they there defy the state coup.

1898
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 3: Then how do they manufacture their cars off shore to

1899
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 3: try and get around the tariffs.

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Speaker 24: Well, what they'll do is they will in effect build

1901
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 24: them in China in huge sort of chunks and then

1902
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 24: just ship over the basic bits and bolt them together,

1903
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,839
Speaker 24: you know, in a foreign country, whether it be Hungry

1904
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 24: or Thailand or Spain. But this isn't really manufacturing overseas,

1905
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 24: which is what those countries want to see.

1906
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1907
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 24: This is the complete opposite to what China did. You know,

1908
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 24: when China was industrializing and growing its economy, it was

1909
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 24: well known for getting overseas manufacturers to set up factories

1910
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 24: in China and then it would watch very very carefully

1911
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 24: how they did it and copy that technology. That's how

1912
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 24: they've stolen an advance in some areas, but they want

1913
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,919
Speaker 24: to make sure that there that their technology on EBS,

1914
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 24: which is pretty advanced and innovative, doesn't get into the

1915
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 24: hands of foreign manufacturers. Now, I don't think this is

1916
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 24: the idea that the EU wants. I think they thought

1917
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 24: that there was going to be, you know, the opening

1918
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Speaker 24: up plants with the cars actually be fully manufactured in

1919
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 24: those countries.

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Speaker 3: Peter, what is going on here with the kind of

1921
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: the tipping point that apparently has been reached with companies

1922
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: foreign companies wanting to invest in China? Is this basically

1923
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 3: because right now the risk and reward metric is out,

1924
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: because the economy is and the doldrums. Is that what's

1925
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 3: going on that's part of it.

1926
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Speaker 24: This comes from the European Chamber of Commerce. Now, actually,

1927
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 24: the European Chamber of Commerce has been down on China

1928
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 24: for a good couple of years now. Every time it

1929
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 24: releases a paper, it's saying that more and more companies

1930
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Speaker 24: are concluding that the risks of doing business in China

1931
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 24: are just too high. They're struggling to make profits because

1932
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 24: of all the restrictions that are on them on things

1933
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 24: like data security, to entry and On top of that,

1934
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Speaker 24: the economy is not doing well either, which makes it

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Speaker 24: very difficult for these companies to sell their products in

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Speaker 24: mainland China at the moment, and we are weak domestic

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Speaker 24: economy is translating directly into lower profits for many of

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Speaker 24: these companies. Now, the EU does the EU Chamber of

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Speaker 24: Commerce does an annual report on doing business in China

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Speaker 24: and how its member firms are doing. And in this

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Speaker 24: latest report, it's said that the companies have reached the

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Speaker 24: tipping point in terms of investing in China and that

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Speaker 24: they're now thinking that maybe there are better opportunities elsewhere

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Speaker 24: outside of China where their economies may be a more

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Speaker 24: more attractive for some of these EU companies. And they

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Speaker 24: talked about supply chain risks in particular and how that's

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Speaker 24: hurting EU companies.

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Speaker 3: Peter, look after yourself and enjoy Bangkok very much. It's

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Speaker 3: Peter US, our Asia Business correspond will talk to you

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Speaker 3: in a week. The commander of Israel spy agency, which

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Speaker 3: is called Unit eight two zero zero, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's eight two zero zero or eighty two eighty

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Speaker 3: two hundred or eight thousand, two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know.

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Speaker 3: I've never even heard of them before, which I suppose

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Speaker 3: is a good thing for a spy agency. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: the commander of the spy agency has quit because he's

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Speaker 3: taking responsibility for failings are that basically allowed Hamas to

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Speaker 3: get into the country and Israel are the seventh of

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Speaker 3: October attacks. This chap name is Josi Sail and he

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Speaker 3: says the responsibility for eight to two zero zero's part

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Speaker 3: in the intelligence and operation failure operational failure falls squarely

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Speaker 3: on me. That is nearly I mean coming up a

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Speaker 3: year right, a year they've done the investigation and people

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Speaker 3: are still coppying it over there for that happening sixteen

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Speaker 3: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with hither duplic Allen and my

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Speaker 1: HR the HR solution for busy SMEs new STOGSPB.

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Speaker 3: Hey, if you're an Auckland you recently got yourself a

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Speaker 3: little parking ticket, and the reason you got the parking

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Speaker 3: ticket was because the parking machine wouldn't leak you pay.

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Speaker 3: You are not alone. This has happened, by the looks

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Speaker 3: of things, to about two hundred and seventy different people,

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Speaker 3: and so as a result, Auckland Transport has canceled two

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy parking tickets which are issued in error

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Speaker 3: for drivers two drivers rather for failing to pay despite

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Speaker 3: the parking machine not allowing them to do so. The

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Speaker 3: lesson in the story is, do not pay your parking

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Speaker 3: ticket if you don't think you need to make a

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Speaker 3: fuss about it, be a squeaky will. You're basically going

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Speaker 3: to turn into our hero as a result of that.

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Speaker 3: And look, you might not even have to pay it.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's twelve away from seven and with us

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Speaker 3: now as Gevin Gray are UK correspondent, Hey, Kevin, hither

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Speaker 3: have that? How big a deal is this that Moscow

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Speaker 3: has revoked the accreditation of six British diplomats.

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Speaker 22: I think it shows things to getting really, really spiky

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Speaker 22: between Russia and the West as it's seen. This of

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Speaker 22: course following the announcement that Iran has been stepping up

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Speaker 22: its support of arms and drones in particular for Russia

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Speaker 22: in its attack and war with Ukraine. And what we're

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Speaker 22: now learning is that Moscow has revoked the accreditation of

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Speaker 22: six British diplomats. The Russian media outline in this no

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Speaker 22: news yet from our media, but the security service in

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Speaker 22: Russia says that the six are suspected of espionage and

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Speaker 22: quote threatening Russia security, and the move is a measure

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Speaker 22: against quote, multiple unfriendly acts. Well, I'm afraid things have

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Speaker 22: certainly stepped up a gear. This is a serious escalation

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Speaker 22: of the war, as Vladimir Putin is saying that Moscow

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Speaker 22: will regard Western missiles being fired into Russia as a

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Speaker 22: serious escalation of the war. And indeed, Secure Starma is

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Speaker 22: now in America in Washington for talks with US President

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Speaker 22: Joe Biden, allies of Kiev really discussing giving Ukraine permission

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Speaker 22: to fire their missiles because of course the West giving

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Speaker 22: missiles to Ukraine whether to fire their missiles at targets

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Speaker 22: inside Russia, something that Vladimir Zelensky has been asking for

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Speaker 22: for a long time. And this in the first few

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Speaker 22: days of several trips now with the Prime Minister and

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Speaker 22: the Foreign Secretary David Lammy with international diplomacy going to Italy,

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Speaker 22: which currently holds the rotating presidency of the EU, and

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Speaker 22: to other countries as well, or trying to get support

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Speaker 22: and a measure of what we're trying to do its

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Speaker 22: retaliation by Vladimir Putin and whether or not he's bluffing

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Speaker 22: that is at stake.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, what do you make of the ben on the

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Speaker 3: junk food ads.

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Speaker 22: It's an interesting one, isn't it. It's certainly now something

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Speaker 22: here in the UK they are really looking at. We

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Speaker 22: had a damning report into the National Health Service here

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Speaker 22: yesterday and part of the problem is obesity and dealing

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Speaker 22: with obesity and dealing what is seen as almost a

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Speaker 22: tidal wave of obesity linked illnesses like diabetes, and so

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Speaker 22: the government had promised before the general election, put it

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Speaker 22: into its manifesto that it would ban junk food adverts

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Speaker 22: being shown on television before nine pm. Well, they have

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Speaker 22: confirmed that that is to come into place in a

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Speaker 22: little over a year's time. I flag it up now

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Speaker 22: because this is something one of a number of measures

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Speaker 22: that the government is going to do now. The Conservatives,

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Speaker 22: the party currently of opposition, had committed to the ban

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Speaker 22: in twenty twenty one, but Boris Johnson pushed back the

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Speaker 22: plan to give the industry more time to prepare. However,

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Speaker 22: this government says no, we've had enough now and it

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Speaker 22: is something being supported by some health professionals including the

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Speaker 22: Royal Society for Public Health, calling the ban a welcome step.

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Speaker 22: Others are saying, no, we've got to go much much

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Speaker 22: further than this, And indeed, under the proposals there's a

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Speaker 22: two stage approach that a product is considered less healthy

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Speaker 22: for the purposes of the restrictions, and it's a sort

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Speaker 22: of fine tuning of an earlier definition that just said

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Speaker 22: products high in fat sold or sugar.

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Speaker 3: Gevin, do we know what happened to these two paralympians

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Speaker 3: from the Congo.

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Speaker 22: They have disappeared, disappeared off the face of the earth.

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Speaker 3: Have they been kidnetted? Have they been kidnapped?

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Speaker 22: I suspect there's a hint of absconding here. So we're

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Speaker 22: talking actually of the two flag bearers for Congo in

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Speaker 22: the Paralympic Games. One of them, Muriel and Ganga, is

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Speaker 22: a shot putter and the second, Emmanuel Grace Mumbaco, is

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Speaker 22: a visually impaired sprinter accompanied by guide. But they went

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Speaker 22: missing a week ago along with the third person. The

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Speaker 22: suitcases are gone, that they don't have their passports, but

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Speaker 22: they do believe, yep, they have absconded.

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Speaker 3: Interesting stuff, Kevin, Thank you so much. Appreciate it, mate,

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Speaker 3: look after yourself. Enjoy the weekend. Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent,

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Speaker 3: eight Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Hither Duplicy Ellen and my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for SIP six.

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Speaker 3: Away from seven. Hey, I found it fascinating how the

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Speaker 3: world has reacted to the Trump Harris debate, apparently in hungery.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this, but during the debate,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump called Victor Aubarn one of the world's most

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Speaker 3: respected men, and I mean, I think that kind of

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Speaker 3: was a surprise to many of us to hear that

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Speaker 3: I'd respect for what exactly. But anyway, over in Hungary,

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Speaker 3: the pro government media are just absolutely thrilled about this.

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Speaker 3: As you can imagine. China is a little bit worried

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Speaker 3: about it, but about both candidates because Donald Trump, they

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Speaker 3: already know, is unpredictable that I don't know what he's

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Speaker 3: going to do. But they're also worried about Karmala Harris

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Speaker 3: because she's an unknown quantity. She's got no track record

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Speaker 3: in China, but it sounds like she's going to stay

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Speaker 3: tough on China because she said that the US and

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Speaker 3: not China would win the competition for the twenty first century.

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Speaker 3: Ukraine is particularly worried about Donald Trump because he was

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Speaker 3: asked if he wanted Ukraine to win the war and

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't say, which is like stressing them out. Russia's

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Speaker 3: confused because Karmala Harris told Donald Trump that Putin would

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Speaker 3: eat him for lunch. But they don't have the expression

2082
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Speaker 3: in Russia to eat someone for lunch. So let's just

2083
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Speaker 3: hope they're not taking that literally.

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Speaker 23: As training season by due leaper to play us out. Tonight,

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Speaker 23: Jwa Leiper is coming back to New Zealand. She's going

2086
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 23: to be doing one show justin Auckland, so you'll have

2087
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Speaker 23: to get yourself up to Aukland if you want to go. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 23: but Spark Arena on Wednesday, April to second. This is

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Speaker 23: very good news because I was reading a piece this

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Speaker 23: morning about all the bands that are skipping us, like

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Speaker 23: Green Day is going to Australia but not coming here,

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Speaker 23: and I think the Killers are doing that as well.

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Speaker 23: I know, so it seems like we would finally becoming

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Speaker 23: a bit of a backwater. But you know, Juwe Leap

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Speaker 23: is going to excuse me, hello, Well, yeah, that seems

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Speaker 23: to have been what kicked it a lot of her

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Speaker 23: in the weekend. We've got them to think for it, apparently.

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Speaker 3: I think that's real stink from the Killers, because the

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Speaker 3: Killers have been here multiple times, so maybe they've just

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Speaker 3: decided they've bled this market out.

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Speaker 23: Well or the other one of the theories I saw

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Speaker 23: is that they're kind of too big for Spark Arena,

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Speaker 23: not really big enough for Eden Park, and we don't

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Speaker 23: have anything kind of in between those two sizes, so

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Speaker 23: it just becomes economically a bit of.

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Speaker 4: A tricky one.

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Speaker 23: I don't know where did they play last time that

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Speaker 23: we're here. I think Spark Arena, but you know they're

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Speaker 23: big now.

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Speaker 3: And then they also played at Auckland Town Hall. So

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Speaker 3: that argument sucks, doesn't it, because that's away, you know,

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Speaker 3: like A and then what's next? Now, this gig is

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Speaker 3: just going to be full of teenagers.

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Speaker 23: A you say that she's been around for a wee while,

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Speaker 23: so yeah, I think there will clearly be teenagers there,

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Speaker 23: but there'll be people my age as well, I think.

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Speaker 3: So he's the one that a lot of mums are

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Speaker 3: going to take their daughters to.

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Speaker 23: Absolutely, yes, A great one to take them to.

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Speaker 3: What a good time for the thirteen year old sir

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Speaker 3: ant and I are heard out going to skip Ada.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't mind her, but yeah for

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Speaker 3: skipping it too. Enjoy See you on Monday by you

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Speaker 3: Musnosidelines were given.

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Speaker 23: For someone tell you, for someone tell you.

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Speaker 1: Who feels like Rod just take.

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Speaker 2: Taking conversation Christrain.

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