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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Confirmation this week that the Commonwealth Games will go ahead

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Speaker 2: in Glasgow in twenty twenty six, the Scottish city stepping

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Speaker 2: into the breach after the Australian state of Victoria renegged

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Speaker 2: on their hosting of the Games due to rising costs.

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Speaker 2: But it'll be a scaled down event with a reported

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Speaker 2: ten sports compared to nearly twice that many in Birmingham

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Now, the Silver Ferns have

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Speaker 2: meddled at all but one of their seven appearances at

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Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Games. They won gold in two thousand and

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Speaker 2: six and again in twenty ten, and after a fourth

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Speaker 2: placed finish on the Gold Coast in twenty eighteen, they

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Speaker 2: were back on the podium in Birmingham, New Zealand. When

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Speaker 2: the bronze medal in Birmingham and the Black Dresses rush

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Speaker 2: off the benures to embrace their teammates, They've done it

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Speaker 2: fifty five to forty eight.

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Speaker 1: The bronze medal belongs to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Coach of the salas is Dame Nolin Todo, who joins

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Speaker 2: us now Dave Nolin, Thanks for your time to chat

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Speaker 2: about this. How important is it to you and the

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Speaker 2: Silver Ferns and the Elite Netball program here that netball

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Speaker 2: continues to be a part of the Commonwealth Games and

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Speaker 2: is specifically included in the program for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, for us, it is very important because it's

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Speaker 3: counted as a pinnacle event for us. We don't have

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to go to your Olympics. When you're talking

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Speaker 3: sort of pinnacle event, you're talking about funding, whether it's

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Speaker 3: government organization connection or your opportunity to showcase your own sports.

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Speaker 3: So Commonwealth Games has already been one of our biggest

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Speaker 3: obviously because netball is played majority by Commonwealth countries, so

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Speaker 3: it's massive to hear that it's still going to head.

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Speaker 2: How confident do you feel that netball will be included

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Speaker 2: in the program for Glasgow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we're still waiting for that confirmation around. The

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Speaker 3: things that we're really happy about is that Glasgow or

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Speaker 3: Scotland sorry, and the European countries, whether it's Island, Wales

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Speaker 3: we're sort of relying on that profile of netball, which

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Speaker 3: is why we think that netball will be still involved

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Speaker 3: with Commonwealth Games. Still waiting to hear if that's definitely

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Speaker 3: going to be it, but fingers crossed that it will be.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like precedents should be given in some

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Speaker 2: way in this unique situation to non Olympic sports, sports

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Speaker 2: like yourselves and lawn bowls, where where the Commonwealth Games

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Speaker 2: is a pinnacle event.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I understand, you know, like people going okay,

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Speaker 3: the main event is Olympics, you know, so I can

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Speaker 3: understand that, but not all sports are involved in Olympics,

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Speaker 3: you know, and that landscape is starting to change. I

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Speaker 3: think we think of breakdancing now, you know, export or

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever that may be. Even that is starting

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Speaker 3: to change as well. So we're happy that it's going ahead.

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Speaker 3: I understand from countries how expensive it is, and you know,

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Speaker 3: probably why Victoria pulled out, but it's great for us

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Speaker 3: that it's still a part of, you know, our ability

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Speaker 3: to get out there and include or improve our profile.

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Speaker 2: Can you have any influence on this, Dan Nolan, can

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Speaker 2: you get on the phone to somebody or Jenny Wiley

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Speaker 2: does and try and push netball's case to the organizers

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Speaker 2: in Glasgow or do you just have to have to

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Speaker 2: wait until everybody else finds out along with you.

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Speaker 3: I think it's well I as I believe you know,

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Speaker 3: no one's sort of known apart from the last couple

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Speaker 3: able to do that. And there's always things, you know,

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Speaker 3: like politically, anbars happens no matter what is to sports.

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Speaker 3: Try to promote your own sport or ensure that these

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Speaker 3: pinnacle events go ahead. And now I'm assuming behind the

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Speaker 3: scenes you know that definitely be happening for sports to

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Speaker 3: ensure that they're part of that team. As I say,

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Speaker 3: I think, I'm not saying we've got it because I

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Speaker 2: You were on the Silver Fern's team which won silver

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Speaker 2: twenty ten. How do you think the Commonwealth Games compares

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Speaker 3: Oh look, it's always one of those. It's totally different.

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Speaker 3: And why I say that is you're involved with other

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Speaker 3: You get appreciation, from my perspective of what other athletes

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Speaker 2: And by the sounds of things, even though we'll go ahead,

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Speaker 2: that there may not be an athlete's village. I know

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Speaker 2: that's a big part of the Commonwealth Games and Olympic

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Speaker 2: Games experience. Would that at all dilute the experience of

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Speaker 2: being part of a wider New Zealand team if you

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Speaker 2: were just sort of I guess, staying by yourselves in

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Speaker 3: I think I can understand that as well. I'm probably

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Speaker 3: we'll take what we can and we're used to anyway,

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Speaker 3: you know. With the New Zealand, I think New Zealand

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Speaker 3: so we were staying in three different locations, but still

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Speaker 2: Positive, good stuff. Well, let's hope that we get the

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Speaker 2: correct outcome as far as netball is concerned. Just while

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Speaker 2: I've got your busy end of the year coming up,

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Speaker 2: of course, you've got three tiny Jamison tests against England

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Speaker 2: What are we about a week out from the first

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really good. We're in camp at the moment in

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Speaker 3: So there's a we know we've got a lot of

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Speaker 3: you know, this is the first time that we've been

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Speaker 3: England's going to be great for us. So really happy

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Speaker 2: All the best for that. Look forward to those games

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Speaker 2: and look forward to having the Silver Ferns in Glasgow

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Speaker 2: fingers crossed in twenty twenty six. Dave Nolan always appreciate your.

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Speaker 3: Time, brilliance. Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you for taking the call, Dame Nolen. Dame

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Speaker 2: Nolin Toto, coach of the Silver Ferns ahead of the

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Speaker 2: Tiny Jamison and Constellation Cup, with more her thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Games and Netball's place and it clearly they

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Speaker 2: want to be there. Clearly they do. Being a pinnacle

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Speaker 2: their favor. Same with lawn bowls. I'd have both of

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Speaker 2: those there. While they both have their world championship, neither

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Speaker 2: a pinnacle event, rightly so by both of those sports.

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Speaker 2: Teen sports we're told will feature in Glasgow, so very

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Speaker 2: much pared back, as I say, there were nineteen in

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Speaker 2: and track and field will be there. They are not

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Speaker 2: negotiable in a Commonwealth Games program and they're very much

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Speaker 2: the bedrock upon which Games the Olympics as well, to

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Speaker 2: the second. Whether it is a shorter time period, we

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Speaker 2: don't know, but they'll be there. And as I say,

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Speaker 2: I reckon netball and bowl should be there as well.

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Speaker 2: And it also chucks cycling into that mix in all

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Speaker 2: three forms mountain bike, track cycling, road cycling. So I'm

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Speaker 2: making a bit of a list. Say there's five, then

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Speaker 2: women's cricket. I could live without that being at the

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Speaker 2: to have a combat sport element to the comm Games.

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Speaker 2: I'd keep squash as a as a racket sport, if

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Speaker 2: you can call table tennis a racket sport. I'd leave

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Speaker 2: weightlifting in. I think the weightlifting brings a lot to

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Speaker 2: there too. So what are we up to? Their boxing, squash, weightlifting,

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Speaker 2: gymnastics and the other fight. That's nine, so I'm up

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Speaker 2: to nine. It's got one spot left. Hockey I could

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Speaker 2: take or leave sevens, even though we're very good at

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Speaker 2: normally medal at it, normally win it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: about sevens, you know, again, I wouldn't be that disappointed

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Speaker 2: if SEVENS wasn't there shooting. I think shooting was due

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Speaker 2: triathlon and three x three basketball, both of which I

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Speaker 2: really like. I like having basketball there in a shortened form.

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Speaker 2: I think it's exciting. I think it adds to it.

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Speaker 2: And triathon I really like the spectacle that trithlon brings.

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Speaker 2: And it's all over in a day, so that might actually, well,

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Speaker 2: so let's say three days. But you get my drift.

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Speaker 2: so maybe triathlon gets there. So there's my ten. That's

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Speaker 2: a very draft list off the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: Athletics and swimming, bowls, netball, cycling, boxing, squash, weightlifting, gymnastics, triathlon.

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Speaker 2: If that was the Commonwealth Games program in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: I'd be okay with that, But then again, it is

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Speaker 2: my choice, you might think to yourself, No, I'd rather

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Speaker 2: have the sport of that sport there and I can

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Speaker 2: take or leave one of the ones you've mentioned. We

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Speaker 2: And I heard Nicki Nickel from the New Zealand Olympic

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Speaker 2: soon as they possibly can so that they can help

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Speaker 2: support the sports who are going to be there, but

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Speaker 2: also lend support to the sports that aren't going to

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Speaker 2: be there and have a pinnacle event taken away from them.

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Speaker 2: So how do they continue to support the high performance

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Speaker 2: Games to look forward to? This is only, of course,

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Speaker 2: Nicki Nichol also said it's her hope that we get

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Speaker 2: and the twenty twenty six is a one off. No

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Speaker 2: bids yet for twenty thirty. Nicki Nichol also said that

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Speaker 2: they have expressed an interest in twenty thirty four, but

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Speaker 2: if they were to host. If New Zealand was to

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Speaker 2: It'd be more a multi city model. For the Commonwealth

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Speaker 2: Games in twenty thirty four, we can talk about that

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Speaker 2: another time, but we wait to see which of the

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