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Speaker 1: As I said earlier, Debi, Nari Wapaka and Rawdytt have

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Speaker 1: given an interview to the Hui. They say they're not

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Speaker 1: sorry for the Huker, which is the thing that they're

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Speaker 1: in trouble for, and they would do it again.

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Speaker 2: We are not sorry for what we did, but we

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Speaker 2: understand that the impacts over the next twenty one days

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Speaker 2: is going to be felt because the Regulatary Standards Bill

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Speaker 2: is one of the most destructive and dangerous bills I

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Speaker 2: have ever seen and this country will ever see. It's intentionally,

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Speaker 2: it's deliberate. It's taken nearly six months to get to this,

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Speaker 2: and they've taken us out before budget, and they've taken

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Speaker 2: us out before the Regulatary Standards Bill.

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Speaker 1: It's eleven past five. Vladimir Putin will not be turning

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Speaker 1: up to the meeting with Ukraine' Vladimir Zelenski for peace

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Speaker 1: talks tonight. That means Donald Trump will now also not come.

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Speaker 1: Vassal Murashnichenko is the Ukrainian ambassador to New Zealand Vassel. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Its meeting is pointless, now, isn't it it?

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Speaker 3: As look I mean, yeah, I'm the whole point is

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Speaker 3: that as you have seen out of over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: full leaders of four countries Britain, France, Germany and Poland

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Speaker 3: came to Ukraine and they have made a joint statement.

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Speaker 3: They also had a phone call with President Trump and

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Speaker 3: they made a clear statement demanding from Russia and immediate

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Speaker 3: unconditional ceasefire. And Russians have not accepted the ceasefire. More so,

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Speaker 3: starting from March eleventh, Ukraine agreed for a ceasefire which

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Speaker 3: was proposed by American President Donald Trump, and Russia never

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Speaker 3: agreed to any ceasefire. So we clearly see that Russia

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Speaker 3: is not interested in peace. Russia is interested in continuing

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Speaker 3: to wage war. Russia is interesting in continuing to kill Ukrainians,

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Speaker 3: kill our children, kill rape the women. So what happens hospitals?

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Speaker 1: What happens next bessel? Like, what is it going to

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Speaker 1: take if everybody's pending their hopes on this meeting? So

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Speaker 1: what happened?

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Speaker 3: So the only way to force Russia into negotiations is

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Speaker 3: to further isolate Russia, impose more sanctions on Russia, provide

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Speaker 3: more defense assistance to Ukraine, and take over the immobilized

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Speaker 3: Russian assets which are three hundred billion dollars which are

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Speaker 3: currently primarily in Europe, in America and some other jurisdictions

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Speaker 3: for the support of Ukraine. That's the only way how

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Speaker 3: we can actually exert pressure on Russia to start negotiations

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Speaker 3: in good faith. For now, Russians will pretend negotiating, they

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Speaker 3: will pertain and they want peace, but they will continue

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Speaker 3: waging the war. You have to keep in mind it's

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Speaker 3: summer now in Ukraine. Therefore, Russians are currently on the overdrive,

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Speaker 3: as they say it in Australia battle Metal, so they

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Speaker 3: are in full in trying to advance. They are gaining

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Speaker 3: gradually some ground, not much, but at a huge expense,

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Speaker 3: at a huge cost. But they are out there and

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Speaker 3: there is no motivation for them to stop anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: They still are on their main objectives of the war,

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Speaker 3: and the main objective of the war is to take

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Speaker 3: over entire country.

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Speaker 1: Vassal, thanks very much, good luck with everything. Really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time, Vassal Mroshnichenko, the Ukrainian Ambassador to New Zealand.

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