1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: from News talk z'b. 3 00:00:13,693 --> 00:00:16,453 Speaker 2: Twenty one to twelve on News Talks. He'd be Katherine 4 00:00:16,493 --> 00:00:18,693 Speaker 2: Rains as our book reviewer. She's here with her two 5 00:00:18,773 --> 00:00:22,933 Speaker 2: recommendations for us this weekend. Hey, Catherine, Jack, really looking 6 00:00:22,973 --> 00:00:24,973 Speaker 2: forward to the details and your thoughts on this one. 7 00:00:24,973 --> 00:00:29,133 Speaker 2: Tell us about The Unlikely Doctor by Timorti Timoki. This 8 00:00:29,333 --> 00:00:29,933 Speaker 2: is just. 9 00:00:30,533 --> 00:00:34,773 Speaker 3: Really interesting and fascinating and a completely different life that 10 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:38,853 Speaker 3: I know. And so starting where he is now, he's 11 00:00:38,933 --> 00:00:42,253 Speaker 3: just graduated after six years at med school, which he 12 00:00:42,293 --> 00:00:44,533 Speaker 3: graduated at fifty six, and he's working at as a 13 00:00:44,573 --> 00:00:49,613 Speaker 3: house officer at Minimal Hospital. But actually where Timahoe starts 14 00:00:49,773 --> 00:00:52,053 Speaker 3: in the first six years of his life is almost 15 00:00:52,293 --> 00:00:54,573 Speaker 3: idyllic compared to the rest of his story. And he's 16 00:00:54,653 --> 00:00:57,413 Speaker 3: raised by Alders and his family, and he describes them 17 00:00:57,453 --> 00:01:00,093 Speaker 3: himself as almost the best years of his life because 18 00:01:00,133 --> 00:01:01,893 Speaker 3: when he was born, his mum wasn't ready to be 19 00:01:01,933 --> 00:01:03,493 Speaker 3: a mum, and he goes to live with his choru, 20 00:01:03,613 --> 00:01:06,373 Speaker 3: and when he turns six, his mum decides to take 21 00:01:06,493 --> 00:01:09,573 Speaker 3: and back and he ends up with her and her partner, 22 00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:14,653 Speaker 3: and they were dysfunctional and substance abuses, and he's beaten 23 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:19,253 Speaker 3: mercilessly really by his stepfather, you know, almost up to 24 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:21,333 Speaker 3: three times a week. And so by the time he 25 00:01:21,373 --> 00:01:26,453 Speaker 3: turns thirteen, he's a really broken man and he's acting 26 00:01:26,453 --> 00:01:30,493 Speaker 3: out and he doesn't care about anything or anyone, and 27 00:01:30,533 --> 00:01:34,293 Speaker 3: he feels like he's really not meant to be anything. 28 00:01:34,373 --> 00:01:37,213 Speaker 3: And around that time he starts sniffing petrol and glue 29 00:01:37,253 --> 00:01:39,653 Speaker 3: and he ends up in trouble and boys homes and 30 00:01:40,253 --> 00:01:45,293 Speaker 3: becomes embroad with gangs and finds himself behind bars, and 31 00:01:45,333 --> 00:01:48,253 Speaker 3: then he finds his moment in Waikia in his twenties, 32 00:01:48,453 --> 00:01:51,213 Speaker 3: and he realizes at that point the next time he 33 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:55,453 Speaker 3: ends up between bars, he won't be leaving and he 34 00:01:55,493 --> 00:01:57,493 Speaker 3: gets out and he's still acting up, and he has 35 00:01:57,533 --> 00:02:01,213 Speaker 3: these incremental moments of changes. He describes them, and within 36 00:02:01,213 --> 00:02:03,533 Speaker 3: a year he's left the gang and he's getting some work, 37 00:02:03,693 --> 00:02:06,613 Speaker 3: and after fifteen years of kind of living in Australia, 38 00:02:06,653 --> 00:02:08,493 Speaker 3: he comes back to New Zealand with the plan to 39 00:02:08,493 --> 00:02:12,613 Speaker 3: be a paramedic in study medicine. And then, because you know, 40 00:02:12,733 --> 00:02:16,333 Speaker 3: life's full of ups and downs, he finds himself on 41 00:02:16,373 --> 00:02:19,373 Speaker 3: a manslaughter charge following an incident with a man on 42 00:02:19,453 --> 00:02:22,613 Speaker 3: Dominion Road late at night where he had been working 43 00:02:22,693 --> 00:02:25,413 Speaker 3: at a drug and alcohol were a digertation center part time, 44 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:29,093 Speaker 3: and he tells the story really interestingly. He says, because 45 00:02:29,133 --> 00:02:31,933 Speaker 3: he's mari and because he's poor, and because he's got history, 46 00:02:32,333 --> 00:02:37,213 Speaker 3: they charged him with manslaughter. And it's really interesting to 47 00:02:37,293 --> 00:02:38,693 Speaker 3: read in the book and it covers it in a 48 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:41,733 Speaker 3: lot more detail. But the lawyer's lawyer essentially comes back 49 00:02:41,773 --> 00:02:44,133 Speaker 3: and says to him, I'll get three and you get 50 00:02:44,133 --> 00:02:45,893 Speaker 3: three and a half years if you plead guilty, and 51 00:02:45,933 --> 00:02:47,453 Speaker 3: the other than that they're just going to go for 52 00:02:47,493 --> 00:02:50,813 Speaker 3: the maximum. And he's like, but I haven't done anything, 53 00:02:51,493 --> 00:02:53,453 Speaker 3: and the easiest thing for him to do is except 54 00:02:53,453 --> 00:02:57,453 Speaker 3: that for something he didn't do, and he he's in 55 00:02:57,453 --> 00:02:59,613 Speaker 3: the end, he's found not guilty, and it's actually revealed 56 00:02:59,653 --> 00:03:01,413 Speaker 3: in this time that the police made the decision to 57 00:03:01,493 --> 00:03:04,533 Speaker 3: charge him without consulting the Crown solicitor and it's now 58 00:03:04,573 --> 00:03:06,733 Speaker 3: a claim that he's lodged with the y Tangu tribe all. 59 00:03:06,773 --> 00:03:09,693 Speaker 3: But he talks a lot about the barriers that have 60 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:11,933 Speaker 3: been placed in front of him and also the potential 61 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:15,093 Speaker 3: of individuals and the real message in his story is 62 00:03:15,133 --> 00:03:18,213 Speaker 3: about being poor and classed in a certain way by 63 00:03:18,253 --> 00:03:21,333 Speaker 3: society and it's a really eye opening story and I 64 00:03:21,373 --> 00:03:23,973 Speaker 3: think every New Zealander should read this, and I think 65 00:03:24,013 --> 00:03:27,053 Speaker 3: it makes you really think about people and their potential. 66 00:03:27,213 --> 00:03:30,613 Speaker 2: Sounds incredible, Okay, great, So that is The Unlikely Doctor 67 00:03:30,693 --> 00:03:33,133 Speaker 2: by Tim Molty to Morky, there's got to be a 68 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:36,253 Speaker 2: movie as well, I think, Catherine. It sounds what a life. 69 00:03:36,613 --> 00:03:38,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't tell itself in the way of 70 00:03:38,613 --> 00:03:40,933 Speaker 3: a Hollywood story because they just there's the things that 71 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:45,653 Speaker 3: happen and he really yeah, it's just you know, now 72 00:03:45,653 --> 00:03:47,613 Speaker 3: they're you know, and go to medical school in his 73 00:03:47,733 --> 00:03:50,133 Speaker 3: late forties and he's now a doctor and you know, 74 00:03:50,373 --> 00:03:52,133 Speaker 3: I mean, incredible. 75 00:03:51,973 --> 00:03:54,973 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, The Unlikely Doctor by Tim Olty too, 76 00:03:55,013 --> 00:03:58,573 Speaker 2: Morchy is your first book? Next up something completely different, 77 00:03:58,973 --> 00:04:02,933 Speaker 2: but Noah nonethless fantastic. The Stars Are a Million Glittering 78 00:04:02,973 --> 00:04:04,293 Speaker 2: Worlds by Gina Buttson. 79 00:04:05,293 --> 00:04:08,653 Speaker 3: So it's a set and across a fifteen year period 80 00:04:08,693 --> 00:04:11,533 Speaker 3: and said Guamala and Australia and New Zealand, and it 81 00:04:11,613 --> 00:04:14,733 Speaker 3: kind of includes our recent history of the global financial 82 00:04:14,813 --> 00:04:18,453 Speaker 3: crisis and the COVID lockdowns and the main character thea 83 00:04:18,733 --> 00:04:21,773 Speaker 3: is really running from her past and sort of friendships 84 00:04:21,813 --> 00:04:24,973 Speaker 3: and tragedies along the way. And the story begins with 85 00:04:25,853 --> 00:04:29,533 Speaker 3: a tragedy and you're really explicitly told what it is, 86 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:33,813 Speaker 3: and it creates this mystery that's kind of always there 87 00:04:33,813 --> 00:04:35,813 Speaker 3: in the back of the story, and it's the secret 88 00:04:35,813 --> 00:04:38,173 Speaker 3: that drives her and keeps her moving from place to 89 00:04:38,213 --> 00:04:43,773 Speaker 3: place and drifting and never really finding peace and all 90 00:04:43,773 --> 00:04:46,133 Speaker 3: of these things that have been unset in her life 91 00:04:46,133 --> 00:04:48,693 Speaker 3: for so long. And she meets with Chris as this 92 00:04:49,133 --> 00:04:51,453 Speaker 3: man that she thought she could have the possibility of 93 00:04:51,493 --> 00:04:53,693 Speaker 3: having more than a friendship with, until he kind of 94 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:57,693 Speaker 3: introduces her to his girlfriend Sarah, and despite this, they 95 00:04:57,733 --> 00:05:01,733 Speaker 3: all become really good friends. And this friendship's played out 96 00:05:01,733 --> 00:05:04,973 Speaker 3: in San Pedrow and a quatemal In town on the 97 00:05:04,973 --> 00:05:07,493 Speaker 3: shore of Lake Italian, and it's easy to imagine the 98 00:05:07,533 --> 00:05:11,533 Speaker 3: place it's beautifully described, and this energy and their friendship 99 00:05:11,573 --> 00:05:13,613 Speaker 3: and the culture and the way of the life, but 100 00:05:13,653 --> 00:05:16,093 Speaker 3: there's all these elements to their friendship and those kind 101 00:05:16,133 --> 00:05:19,613 Speaker 3: of toxic bits with things left unsaid and guessing what 102 00:05:19,693 --> 00:05:22,213 Speaker 3: secrets the other has and how can they trust each other, 103 00:05:22,853 --> 00:05:26,613 Speaker 3: And then tragedy rewrites life again. Anthia finds herself in 104 00:05:26,693 --> 00:05:31,933 Speaker 3: Tasmania in a relationship and testing her and these unanswered questions, 105 00:05:32,253 --> 00:05:34,773 Speaker 3: and it's really a book about how our past catches 106 00:05:34,853 --> 00:05:38,053 Speaker 3: up with us and becomes a central part of change 107 00:05:38,093 --> 00:05:41,653 Speaker 3: and this grief and mistrust and it's a really interesting 108 00:05:41,653 --> 00:05:43,733 Speaker 3: but you can always feel the kind of vibrancy of 109 00:05:43,773 --> 00:05:46,893 Speaker 3: these different places and these different worlds that she lives in. 110 00:05:46,933 --> 00:05:48,373 Speaker 3: It's very very well told story. 111 00:05:48,453 --> 00:05:50,933 Speaker 2: Nice, Thank you, Catherine. So Catherine's picks this week, The 112 00:05:50,973 --> 00:05:54,213 Speaker 2: Stars are a Million Glittering Worlds by Gina Buttson and 113 00:05:54,293 --> 00:05:57,213 Speaker 2: The Unlikely Doctor by Tim Morty Timurky. Both of those 114 00:05:57,213 --> 00:05:59,733 Speaker 2: books will be up on the News talks 'DB website. 115 00:06:00,013 --> 00:06:03,093 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 116 00:06:03,213 --> 00:06:06,533 Speaker 1: to newstalks 'B from nine am Saturday, or follow the 117 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:07,973 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio