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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: Is not your weekend off the right way? Saturday Morning

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Speaker 2: with Jack Tam, News Talks at.

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Speaker 3: B jud and New Zeela. Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 3: News Talks ed B. I'm Jack Tam with you through

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Speaker 3: the midday, and here is a warning. I am in

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Speaker 3: a bad mood. I've woken up on the wrong side

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Speaker 3: of the bead this morning. Actually, no, no, I haven't

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Speaker 3: woken up on the wrong side of the bed. Thing.

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Speaker 3: Actually woke up on the right side of the bead,

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Speaker 3: my baby, would you believe? Slip through the five thirty

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Speaker 3: I woke up. It was a beautiful, still morning, not

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Speaker 3: a cloud in the sky, the sun shining hallelujah, I thought,

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Speaker 3: enjoyed a nice coffee, and then I stepped outside my

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Speaker 3: front door, only to be confronted with a horror like scene.

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Speaker 3: Blood guts gore all over my front porch. Three dead birds,

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Speaker 3: three all of them looking like they had been through

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Speaker 3: the ringer to say the least. Now, we don't have

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Speaker 3: a cat at our place. We don't have a cat,

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Speaker 3: so one of the neighborhood cats must have been responsible

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Speaker 3: to this I had to leave the baby, who was

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Speaker 3: now crying inside the house for a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: while I went out and scooped up these poor creatures

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Speaker 3: that had been left for us. If you are a

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Speaker 3: pet owner, if you are a cat owner and you

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Speaker 3: let your cat roam at night without one of those

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Speaker 3: little bells, with nothing to stop it round going disturbing

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Speaker 3: the local birds, you are irresponsible, and you are selfish,

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Speaker 3: and you are a bad neighbor. There I've said it

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Speaker 3: really upsetting to see that kind of thing. No one

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Speaker 3: wants that, literally, no one wants that. So if you

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Speaker 3: are a cat owner and you let your cat roam, don't. Fortunately,

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Speaker 3: we've got a great show today, cracking show, absolute cracking

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Speaker 3: show for you, which'll lift everyone's spirits, I think, except

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Speaker 3: for those poor three birds. Well, I'll be soaring for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the morning. Before ten o'clock, our cook

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Speaker 3: is in with a delicious sounding, incredibly easy blueberry and

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Speaker 3: lemon loaf cake recipe. She'll be sharing that with us shortly.

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Speaker 3: We've got your film picks for the week before ten o'clock,

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Speaker 3: and then after ten our feature interview this morning friend

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Speaker 3: of the show, the Governess, and he Gety from the

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Speaker 3: Chase is going to be with us. She's not talking

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Speaker 3: the Chase UK, she is talking about her experience on

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Speaker 3: The Chase New Zealand. They have shot a couple of

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Speaker 3: special episodes that are going to be screening in a

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Speaker 3: few days time. Paul Henry, of course, as the host

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Speaker 3: of The Chase New Zealand, So and Higety from the

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Speaker 3: Chase is our feature interview after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 3: She's been on the show before a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: Now it is so good to have her back. She

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Speaker 3: is such a character, so really really looking forward to

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Speaker 3: that right now. It's nine past nine, jackdam If you're

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Speaker 3: anything like me, the moment you saw that the world's

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Speaker 3: most famous art gallery had been robbed of the French

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Speaker 3: Crown jewels, one thing immediately came to mind. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's silly, really, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: it's a crime, right, it is a crime, and it

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Speaker 3: is a serious crime. Nevertheless, for whatever reason, it's just

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Speaker 3: hard to totally ignore the audacity and the romance of

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Speaker 3: it all. After all, what's the difference between a robbery

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Speaker 3: and a heist? Whatever it is that distinguishes those words robbery,

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Speaker 3: and heist. There is something seductive. We were told the

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Speaker 3: thieves were organized, right, we were told that they were efficient.

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Speaker 3: We were told they used specialist equipment. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know about you, but I kind of imagined a Tom

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Speaker 3: of invisible lasers, any of which, if broken, would immediately

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Speaker 3: more detail has emerged over the last two weeks, it's

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Speaker 3: become clear the Louver heist was less mission impossible and

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Speaker 3: more mission to might attend that specialist equipment we were

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Speaker 3: told about that the thieves used, Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 3: I've never thought about it before, But the problem with

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Speaker 3: the thieves seemed to have worked out is that using

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Speaker 3: an axe or a hammer was a bad idea in

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Speaker 3: the louver that would have potentially taken hundreds of blows

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Speaker 3: of action for anyone quickly wanting to access the louvers

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Speaker 3: secure display cases. You don't smash, you can't. Although they

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Speaker 3: have now made a series of arrests, lessons abound for

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Speaker 3: the French authorities. It's shocking they had such poor security

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Speaker 3: camera coverage around the museum, But as more and more

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Speaker 3: detail comes to light, I reckon there is a valuable

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Speaker 3: lesson in this for all of us. The disguises the

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Speaker 3: thieves weren't in military fatigues. They weren't dressed in all black.

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Speaker 3: They weren't wearing crazy masks like the ones in Money Heist.

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Speaker 3: They were wearing the universal uniform of authority, the good

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Speaker 3: old High viz vest. It is a great irony, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: The great irony is that a garment designed to be

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Speaker 3: seen has become so ubiquitous we now don't see it

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Speaker 3: even when it's being worn by thieves in broad daylight,

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Speaker 3: stealing some of the most valuable jewelry in the world.

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Speaker 3: The Paris police, who had cameras trained on the area

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Speaker 3: where the thieves parked their truck, sheepishly admitted this week

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Speaker 3: that no one paid any attention to the men on

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Speaker 3: the video feed. Why well, in their hiver's vests, they

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Speaker 3: just looked like a regular construction crew, said a police spokesperson.

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Speaker 3: In Paris, like most cities, has heaps of construction. It

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Speaker 3: looks increasingly likely the men will not get away with

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Speaker 3: their theft, and though clearly they were organized, this was

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Speaker 3: hardly the perfect crime. They dropped some of the jewels

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Speaker 3: tried to burn the truck, but the gas tank wouldn't catch.

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Speaker 3: The big question now is whether or not the jewels

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Speaker 3: are still intact. Still. These thieves have proved one thing

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Speaker 3: for the biggest height, for the biggest heist at the

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Speaker 3: world's most famous museum, in more than one hundred years,

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Speaker 3: so the biggest heist since the Mona Lisa was pinched

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Speaker 3: from the Louver way back in nineteen eleven. You only

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Speaker 3: need three things. Number one, a charge battery for your

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Speaker 3: angle grinder. Number two, an air of confidence and purpose,

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Speaker 3: and number three, most importantly, a high is vest. Jack

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Speaker 3: Tab ninety two ninety two is our text number if

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Speaker 3: that standard text costs apply. We're going to get us

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Speaker 3: Sportos thoughts on the black Caps chances this afternoon. In

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Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, Kevin Milman will kick us off

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Speaker 3: for us Saturday Morning together. Next, I'm Jack Tam. It's

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Speaker 3: Saturday morning, It's quarter past nine, and this is Newstalgs EDB.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks V.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past nine on News Talks V. Thank you very

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Speaker 3: much for your feedback this morning. Jack. They missed one thing,

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Speaker 3: says Danny. The thieves in Paris that had road cones,

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Speaker 3: they would have smashed it no one ever would have looked. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you might be right on that front, Danny. Regarding birds,

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Speaker 3: Jack could be local kids for Halloween, says Steve. And Jack.

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Speaker 3: The wind is responsible for many, many poor little baby

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Speaker 3: birds being on the ground, says Lorna. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to go into too much detail for you guys this morning,

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Speaker 3: but no, these were well, if these were left by kids,

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Speaker 3: then we need to call the authorities because we've got

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Speaker 3: some psychopaths on our hands. The birds were relatively mature,

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Speaker 3: and they were in bits. It's probably all I need

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Speaker 3: to say. I needed to go and get the broom

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Speaker 3: and shovel because the entire kind of front patio area

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Speaker 3: had various bits and pieces all over it. Jack Well

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Speaker 3: said on the cats, they should have been locked up

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Speaker 3: at night, or at the very least made to wear

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Speaker 3: a bell. It's not right to have open season on

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Speaker 3: birds through our cats. And Jack, I completely agree with

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Speaker 3: you on the thoughts of irresponsible cat owners. I don't

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Speaker 3: still cats roaming around without bells. Let's start a campaign,

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Speaker 3: says Lizzie. Thanks for that, I'll get tomorrow feedback in

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Speaker 3: a few minutes if you want to send us a text.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two ninety two is our text number. This morning,

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Speaker 3: Kevin mill is here with us this morning. Our to Maddy.

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Speaker 3: You're good morning, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Jack. I don't want to continue the bad news.

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Speaker 4: But we had our puppy said cast ready yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Oh well no, Actually, you know what, Kevin, You know

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Speaker 3: what it is different because you are being a responsible

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Speaker 3: pet owner. That that is a responsible thing to do

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Speaker 3: as a peed owner. And my concern is with irresponsible

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Speaker 4: I just hope in years to come, people won't look

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Speaker 4: back and say, you know, you know, back in the

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Speaker 4: back in the twenty twenties, people used to have their

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Speaker 4: dogs castrated.

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Speaker 5: What a bloody cruel thing to do.

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Speaker 4: I hope that doesn't happen. Well, I mean, why can't

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Speaker 4: dogs have the sect?

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Speaker 2: To me, so like the rest of us, Well.

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Speaker 3: Not like well, you're asking asking the wrong man here,

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Speaker 3: give it? Yeah, I mean I have no easier Well,

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Speaker 3: I look, I am if you are an expert on

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Speaker 3: the anatomy and can compare the anatomy of a dog

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Speaker 3: and a human, by all means, give us a call.

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Speaker 3: I would love to know. That's a very good question, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: and one for which I'm sure there is an answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's swearing around this thing that looks like

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Speaker 4: a road cone.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, over, Oh yeah, the old cone shame. It's

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Speaker 3: the cone of shame. Is a tough one, isn't it,

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Speaker 3: especially when they're a bobbly from the you know, the

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Speaker 3: anesthetic wears off and that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Hey, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about two of my favorite things

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Speaker 3: this morning? Cheese and ice cream?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, I remember in the nineteen eighties there was a

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Speaker 4: little shop near where we lived here in Cavity. It

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Speaker 4: was a busy little boutique which sold locally made cheese

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Speaker 4: and ice cream. We were very proud of the place

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Speaker 4: because it called its Poducts Carpody our name, and those

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Speaker 4: products were top class with growth. That was what about

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Speaker 4: by its own success. Carpety Cheeses was then merged with

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Speaker 4: a milk company and acquired by Food Stuffs to form

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Speaker 4: Carbonty Fine Foods. Coverty Fine Foods moved to a large

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Speaker 4: factory and Carboies Toroto industrial area.

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Speaker 5: We locals were pleased.

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Speaker 4: The whole of New Zealand could now enjoy products made

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Speaker 4: on our doorstep. Besides, there was still a shop we

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Speaker 4: at ridiculously low factory prices. Then Fonterra bought Coverty Fine

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Speaker 4: Foods off food Stuffs. The ice cream brand was taken

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Speaker 4: over by Tiptop and Auckland, its license subsequently sold to

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Speaker 3: Say let's kick things off with Eden Park. What got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so nine am would start to nine am is

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Speaker 6: I remember back in twenty sixteen, it was it was

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Speaker 3: Andrew's Seville there. Thanks for your text. Harry sister flipped

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Speaker 3: clipboard looking serious. People just assume you should be there

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Speaker 3: and leave you alone. Yeah, we're funny, aren't we. I

431
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Speaker 3: think you have a clipboard, but also have a You've

432
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Speaker 3: got to have a lanyard of some description, don't you do.

433
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Speaker 3: That's very important to have a lanyard if you're in

434
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Speaker 3: a government department somewhere. And I think you've hit on

435
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Speaker 3: an important component in all of this. It's not just

436
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Speaker 3: the uniform or the disguise or a high vers vest

437
00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:30,253
Speaker 3: in the case of the Louver heist. It's also a

438
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Speaker 3: general sense of intent. So you've got to look confident.

439
00:24:35,173 --> 00:24:37,373
Speaker 3: You've got to look like you're not expecting anyone to

440
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Speaker 3: ask you why you're there. You know, you can't be

441
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Speaker 3: kind of there can be no nothing timid about your

442
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Speaker 3: about your actions. You've got to look like you belong

443
00:24:47,893 --> 00:24:51,253
Speaker 3: and then the world's your oyster. Doesn't matter. If it's

444
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Speaker 3: the most famous museum in the world, doesn't matter, if

445
00:24:53,173 --> 00:24:56,373
Speaker 3: it's one hundred million dollars in Crown jewels. The world

446
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Speaker 3: is your oyster. Thanks for your feedback. It's twenty one

447
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Speaker 3: to ten. Time to catch up with our film review

448
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Speaker 3: of Francesca Rudkin has two film picks for us this week,

449
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Speaker 3: kicking off with Pike River, which is hit New Zealand cinema. So, Francis,

450
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Speaker 3: let's have a listen to that.

451
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Speaker 8: There were thirty five miners down in the mine, so

452
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Speaker 8: I don't know exactly.

453
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Speaker 9: What's happened at the moment.

454
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Speaker 10: There's been an explosion at the mine.

455
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Speaker 2: What happened up there?

456
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Speaker 10: We need to make sure the recovery is safe, recovery

457
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Speaker 10: all the men are dead.

458
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Speaker 3: I had the great privilege of seeing this a couple

459
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Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Francisca has been to see Pipe River

460
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Speaker 3: as well, so tell us about the film.

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Speaker 11: I'm so excited to talk to you about a film

462
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Speaker 11: you have seen.

463
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Speaker 3: First for everything.

464
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Speaker 12: Eh, yeah, Hey, if I'm ever talking to some if

465
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Speaker 12: anyone from overseas is ever asking about the New Zealand

466
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Speaker 12: film industry. I say, look, we've got a pretty small

467
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Speaker 12: film industry in New Zealand, but we generally make films

468
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Speaker 12: that matter and we tell stories that need to be told,

469
00:25:56,613 --> 00:25:58,413
Speaker 12: and I think with Pipe River, this is a really

470
00:25:58,453 --> 00:26:04,613
Speaker 12: good example of that. This story has been told from

471
00:26:04,653 --> 00:26:07,973
Speaker 12: the perspective of those close to it, from the you know,

472
00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:11,093
Speaker 12: the perspective of the families, and an awful lot of

473
00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:15,773
Speaker 12: time and research went into your learning about their experiences

474
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Speaker 12: and what it has been like since this tragedy in

475
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Speaker 12: twenty ten, and in particular, in this film, we followed

476
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Speaker 12: the story of two remarkable women, Sonya Rockhouse and Anna Osborne,

477
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Speaker 12: and how they just basically refused to give up the

478
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Speaker 12: fight for justice for the men that they lost in

479
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Speaker 12: the mind. And you know, I know that you've spoken

480
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Speaker 12: to them as well, and I hate the privilege. I'm

481
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Speaker 12: hosting a couple of q and as with them at

482
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Speaker 12: the moment at screenings, and you know, last night they

483
00:26:45,333 --> 00:26:47,813
Speaker 12: were saying, everybody has an opinion about Pipe River, and

484
00:26:47,853 --> 00:26:51,373
Speaker 12: everyone likes to share that opinion with them. They everyone's

485
00:26:51,413 --> 00:26:54,493
Speaker 12: a mine, expert Jack. You know, everyone's got an opinion

486
00:26:54,533 --> 00:26:56,053
Speaker 12: on when we should get the men out. We shouldn't

487
00:26:56,053 --> 00:26:57,373
Speaker 12: have always kind of things, and they said, what we

488
00:26:57,493 --> 00:27:00,093
Speaker 12: wanted to do with this film was just to lay

489
00:27:00,133 --> 00:27:02,893
Speaker 12: our story out for people to actually see what why

490
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Speaker 12: we've been doing what we've been doing. And you know,

491
00:27:05,773 --> 00:27:08,293
Speaker 12: they have been incredibly hard and what they have achieved

492
00:27:08,453 --> 00:27:12,333
Speaker 12: is really remarkable. And I think that that is what

493
00:27:12,373 --> 00:27:16,933
Speaker 12: this film does. It kind of shows us this story

494
00:27:17,333 --> 00:27:19,493
Speaker 12: from a perspective that none of us, you.

495
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Speaker 13: Know, had access to. I think it also conjures up

496
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Speaker 13: for me. It conjured up an awful lot of emotion.

497
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Speaker 12: I mean, I've seen this film a couple of times,

498
00:27:28,053 --> 00:27:30,133
Speaker 12: so I've cried both times, but I've also laughed because

499
00:27:30,133 --> 00:27:33,613
Speaker 12: it's also an uplifting and at times funny film about friendship.

500
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Speaker 12: It's about the tragedy, It's about anger and loss and

501
00:27:38,013 --> 00:27:40,573
Speaker 12: a tragedy that should never have happened. But it's also

502
00:27:40,613 --> 00:27:45,893
Speaker 12: a very uplifting film jack about friendship and about advocacy

503
00:27:46,053 --> 00:27:49,493
Speaker 12: and what you can achieve. I hope that you how

504
00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:51,133
Speaker 12: did you find it? What emotions did it? Because it

505
00:27:51,213 --> 00:27:54,253
Speaker 12: also it brought up when I left, I found a

506
00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:56,253
Speaker 12: lot of shame as a New Zealander that we have

507
00:27:56,373 --> 00:27:59,533
Speaker 12: done so little for these families. There has been no

508
00:27:59,653 --> 00:28:03,733
Speaker 12: accountability whatsoever. But what happened to twenty nine men who

509
00:28:03,773 --> 00:28:05,413
Speaker 12: went to work one day and never came home?

510
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Speaker 3: I think that was That was one of the defining

511
00:28:09,693 --> 00:28:12,613
Speaker 3: feelings I had watching the film, And I said that

512
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Speaker 3: to Anna and Soniel when they were with us on

513
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,853
Speaker 3: the show a couple of weeks ago. It feels like

514
00:28:16,933 --> 00:28:22,213
Speaker 3: the story is unfinished and that there is this grave

515
00:28:22,293 --> 00:28:27,213
Speaker 3: injustice that has not been corrected or attended to or

516
00:28:27,253 --> 00:28:31,573
Speaker 3: addressed sufficiently in my view it and that is the

517
00:28:31,573 --> 00:28:34,053
Speaker 3: sense you're left with. So most films when you watch them,

518
00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:37,333
Speaker 3: have a sort of conclusion that feels like, well, you know,

519
00:28:37,413 --> 00:28:39,333
Speaker 3: we've kind of, you know, everything's kind of tied off.

520
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Speaker 3: And the sense I got with Pike River is that

521
00:28:42,213 --> 00:28:46,413
Speaker 3: the story hasn't yet been finished. And I hope that

522
00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:51,853
Speaker 3: this film will, you know, will stir a similar kind

523
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Speaker 3: of response in a lot of New Zealanders who will

524
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Speaker 3: see this as the injustice it is because for those

525
00:28:56,733 --> 00:28:59,773
Speaker 3: of us who haven't been directly affected, you know, the

526
00:28:59,813 --> 00:29:03,773
Speaker 3: truth is that over time, life goes on, the will

527
00:29:03,893 --> 00:29:04,573
Speaker 3: keeps turning, right.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, And I think we all collect we all remember

529
00:29:09,173 --> 00:29:10,973
Speaker 12: that we heard about Pipe River. I mean I think

530
00:29:10,973 --> 00:29:13,333
Speaker 12: collectively as a nation, we held our breath and we.

531
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Speaker 13: Held on to that hope.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we were promised, you know that we were you

533
00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:21,253
Speaker 12: know that these men could be Okay, look Jack. As

534
00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:24,293
Speaker 12: far as the craft of this film goes, it's absolutely stunning.

535
00:29:24,573 --> 00:29:28,373
Speaker 12: Melanie Linsky and Robin Malcolm are It's just a masterclass

536
00:29:28,373 --> 00:29:32,133
Speaker 12: in acting. The sound editing is brilliant, The cinematography is beautiful.

537
00:29:32,173 --> 00:29:35,413
Speaker 12: There are just haunting shots of the landscape which you know,

538
00:29:35,493 --> 00:29:38,493
Speaker 12: you feel the weight of that landscape on these men

539
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:44,093
Speaker 12: who are still underground. The costume, the makeup, the art department,

540
00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:48,293
Speaker 12: you know, everything has been thought through really thoroughly, and

541
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Speaker 12: it gives a sense of authenticity of what the small

542
00:29:51,853 --> 00:29:54,853
Speaker 12: community was like and things. So, you know, as far

543
00:29:54,893 --> 00:29:56,973
Speaker 12: as you know, the production of the film as well,

544
00:29:57,093 --> 00:30:00,733
Speaker 12: I think it's it's been made to a high standard

545
00:30:00,773 --> 00:30:03,813
Speaker 12: and made but a huge amount of respect and sensitivity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well said, Well said, And I think a really

547
00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:09,173
Speaker 3: important film. I hope everyone goes to see Pike River

548
00:30:09,293 --> 00:30:12,933
Speaker 3: that is showing in cinemas. Now. Next up a film

549
00:30:12,973 --> 00:30:16,653
Speaker 3: that is screening on Netflix, something completely different. This is

550
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Speaker 3: a House of Dynamite.

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Speaker 1: Approximately three minutes ago we detected an ICBM over the Pacific.

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Speaker 9: Current flight trajectory is consistent with impact somewhere in the

553
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Speaker 9: continental of the United States. If we do not take

554
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Speaker 9: steps to neutralize our enemies now, we will lose our

555
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Speaker 9: window to do so.

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Speaker 4: D D.

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Speaker 3: Dan Right, So.

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Speaker 13: This is Katherin Bigelow.

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Speaker 12: I really like Catherine Bigelow is a director Point Break Zero,

560
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Speaker 12: DAC's thirty, the hurt Locker. She is really good with

561
00:30:51,653 --> 00:30:54,773
Speaker 12: tension and drama and thrill. She can just, you know,

562
00:30:54,933 --> 00:30:57,653
Speaker 12: she just can bring all this together and take you

563
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Speaker 12: on an incredible sort of ride and journey and things.

564
00:31:00,893 --> 00:31:03,413
Speaker 12: House of Dynamite. It was written by Noah Oppenheim. He

565
00:31:03,493 --> 00:31:06,373
Speaker 12: was a former NBC news chief and he also wrote Zero.

566
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Speaker 12: People might have been watching that on Netflix as well,

567
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Speaker 12: starring Robert de Niro, and this film describes nineteen minutes

568
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Speaker 12: in which a missile has launched from somewhere in the Pacific.

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Speaker 12: We don't know who has launched it. It is packed

570
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Speaker 12: up by a US Army base in Alaska, and then

571
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Speaker 12: we kind of follow what happens. It's flagged to the

572
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Speaker 12: White House situation room and everyone else that needs to know,

573
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Speaker 12: whether it's analysts or national security agents or you know,

574
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Speaker 12: the military and things.

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Speaker 13: Then everyone's kind of on a zoom. We're all in

576
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Speaker 13: a room together, and I'm.

577
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Speaker 12: Thinking, Ah, this is perfect. This is so careful, Bigelow Territory.

578
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Speaker 12: She's going to put us in a room and she's

579
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Speaker 12: going to amp up the tension. This is going to

580
00:31:39,893 --> 00:31:41,653
Speaker 12: be a great ride. I can't see what she does here.

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Speaker 11: And I also thought of was like, good, where is

582
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Speaker 11: this going?

583
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Speaker 12: Because this missile is only going It's not going to

584
00:31:46,013 --> 00:31:47,613
Speaker 12: take very long to go up and come down, right,

585
00:31:47,653 --> 00:31:49,573
Speaker 12: So I was thinking, where's this film going. As it

586
00:31:49,613 --> 00:31:52,173
Speaker 12: turns out, Jackie goes back to the beginning, and we

587
00:31:52,253 --> 00:31:54,013
Speaker 12: go back to the beginning a couple of times, and

588
00:31:54,093 --> 00:31:57,053
Speaker 12: we see this same story told through different points.

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Speaker 13: Of view, and I'm going to be honest with you,

590
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Speaker 13: I was a little bit.

591
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Speaker 12: Disappointed by this. I found it very unsatisfactory, basically because

592
00:32:03,933 --> 00:32:08,533
Speaker 12: I did not get enough information each time, or you know, yeah,

593
00:32:08,773 --> 00:32:10,733
Speaker 12: more of enough information each time we went back to

594
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Speaker 12: the beginning to feel like it was adding to the story.

595
00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:17,253
Speaker 12: I think what she is trying to say here, jack

596
00:32:17,493 --> 00:32:19,973
Speaker 12: and in light of and I think this was a

597
00:32:20,053 --> 00:32:23,093
Speaker 12: very good This is sort of added a new spin

598
00:32:23,173 --> 00:32:24,973
Speaker 12: to this film and light of Trump treating to rest

599
00:32:24,973 --> 00:32:26,053
Speaker 12: out nuclear testing.

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Speaker 13: I think what the.

601
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Speaker 12: Message here is saying is that the decision makers in

602
00:32:31,453 --> 00:32:36,093
Speaker 12: a moment like this, in a nuclear strike need to

603
00:32:36,133 --> 00:32:39,653
Speaker 12: be the best position, knowledgeable and trained people in the

604
00:32:39,773 --> 00:32:43,213
Speaker 12: room possibly to make that decision. So that does resonate

605
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:46,013
Speaker 12: a little bit more, maybe in light of you know,

606
00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:48,933
Speaker 12: as I said about the sight of the world and things.

607
00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 12: But I love her, but I just I did not

608
00:32:51,173 --> 00:32:52,173
Speaker 12: find this sound fine.

609
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, interesting, Okay, that's like you say, she's an

610
00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:59,813
Speaker 3: amazing director usually, so yeah, maybe this is a rare

611
00:32:59,893 --> 00:33:02,293
Speaker 3: miss from Catherine Bigelow. So that's a House of Dynamite.

612
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Speaker 3: And Francesca's first film was Pike River. Pike Rivers and

613
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Speaker 3: Cinema's The House of Dynamite is on Netflix. All the

614
00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:10,253
Speaker 3: details for those films will be on the news talks

615
00:33:10,293 --> 00:33:13,533
Speaker 3: he'd be website, Jack. I agree with you one hundred percent.

616
00:33:13,613 --> 00:33:16,413
Speaker 3: I'm a cat lover. I own a cat. It is

617
00:33:16,493 --> 00:33:20,373
Speaker 3: completely unnecessary for a cat to be killing three birds

618
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Speaker 3: in a night. The fact that it hasn't eaten them

619
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Speaker 3: shows it's not killing out of hunger. It's killing for

620
00:33:24,893 --> 00:33:26,973
Speaker 3: a game. It's something to do to pass the time

621
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Speaker 3: in the night. A bell doesn't helt much at night,

622
00:33:29,773 --> 00:33:32,773
Speaker 3: as birds sometimes don't hear them. Birds aren't nocturnal, they're

623
00:33:32,813 --> 00:33:35,493
Speaker 3: sleeping in the end. At the end of the day,

624
00:33:36,213 --> 00:33:38,533
Speaker 3: cat owners just need to be responsible and keep their

625
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Speaker 3: cats inside at night. Thank you for that. Ninety two

626
00:33:41,053 --> 00:33:42,533
Speaker 3: ninety two is our text number if you want to

627
00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:44,973
Speaker 3: send me your message. Twelve to ten. Our cook is

628
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Speaker 3: in with her recipe for the week next.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack d keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend US talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be ten to.

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Speaker 3: Ten now Cook. Nikki Wix is in this morning. Good morning, yeah,

633
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Speaker 3: cure Jack. Well, you've pulled off a miracle of sorts.

634
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Speaker 3: You've managed to get the trades around at your place

635
00:34:02,653 --> 00:34:03,453
Speaker 3: and they're staying there.

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Speaker 14: I know, I know tradees. The local trades confessed to

637
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Speaker 14: me that they don't mind doing work at my place.

638
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Speaker 3: And I wonder I'm not surprised bit at that I.

639
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Speaker 14: Still like to hold on to this tradition of cooking

640
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Speaker 14: for tradespeople. And one of them confided in me that's

641
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Speaker 14: sort of six seven years ago.

642
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Speaker 15: When he started his.

643
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Speaker 14: Apprenticeship, it was still common practice to get scones and

644
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Speaker 14: teen things.

645
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Speaker 15: He said.

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Speaker 14: That's drastically dropped off, he said, So I like to

647
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Speaker 14: keep it up. So look, I've been tuning out sort

648
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Speaker 14: of pizzas, using raps for a base to make them

649
00:34:36,653 --> 00:34:39,773
Speaker 14: quick and easy. Frying rice I did one day a

650
00:34:39,933 --> 00:34:43,293
Speaker 14: decent sandwich. You cannot go amiss with a decent sandwich

651
00:34:43,533 --> 00:34:45,773
Speaker 14: needs to be well seasoned. It needs to be stuffed

652
00:34:45,773 --> 00:34:48,293
Speaker 14: full of all of the good stuff. I've been baking

653
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:51,213
Speaker 14: this that the other. I have a particular cake tin

654
00:34:51,253 --> 00:34:53,293
Speaker 14: that I always say to who he was working here,

655
00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:55,693
Speaker 14: that will have something in it for you that have

656
00:34:55,813 --> 00:34:58,573
Speaker 14: with a kappa. And this or last week it was

657
00:34:58,653 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 14: a blueberry and lemon loaf cake jack and it was

658
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:02,493
Speaker 14: a winner.

659
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Speaker 3: Ah, sounds amazing, Okay, So run us through it all right?

660
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:08,613
Speaker 14: So do oven goes on one eighty degrees in line,

661
00:35:08,653 --> 00:35:11,813
Speaker 14: And I've got quite a large loaf tin because oh,

662
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Speaker 14: I'd tell you what trades. People can eat a lot.

663
00:35:14,453 --> 00:35:17,733
Speaker 14: Briefly in a food process, a pulse some sugar and

664
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Speaker 14: lemon zest. I use one hundred and ninety grams of sugar,

665
00:35:21,813 --> 00:35:24,053
Speaker 14: or if that's about three quarters of a cup plus

666
00:35:24,053 --> 00:35:27,173
Speaker 14: a little bit of cast of sugar, two good tablespoons

667
00:35:27,173 --> 00:35:29,653
Speaker 14: of a lemon zest, and you just sort of, you know,

668
00:35:29,973 --> 00:35:31,733
Speaker 14: sort of pulse it so that it becomes kind of

669
00:35:31,733 --> 00:35:35,173
Speaker 14: like damp sand, and it stops the lemon zest in

670
00:35:35,253 --> 00:35:37,893
Speaker 14: getting caught around the beta. When you do this next stage,

671
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Speaker 14: which is to cream the butter and the sugar, and

672
00:35:40,493 --> 00:35:42,573
Speaker 14: I've used one hundred and fifty grams of softened butter.

673
00:35:42,653 --> 00:35:45,573
Speaker 14: Make sure that's really light and fluffy, and start adding

674
00:35:45,573 --> 00:35:48,013
Speaker 14: in your three eggs, one at a time, beating between

675
00:35:48,093 --> 00:35:50,133
Speaker 14: each one of them. Don't worry if it curdles a

676
00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:52,733
Speaker 14: little bit. This cool weather will bring that on sometimes.

677
00:35:53,293 --> 00:35:55,693
Speaker 14: And then a little bit of flour, ninety grams of flour,

678
00:35:56,173 --> 00:35:59,693
Speaker 14: half a teaspoon of baking powder, and one hundred and

679
00:35:59,693 --> 00:36:02,533
Speaker 14: ten grams of almonds. The almonds give this cake of

680
00:36:02,573 --> 00:36:05,413
Speaker 14: real richness. They're full of protein, so they're a bit

681
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:08,453
Speaker 14: more sustaining. And just putting in all of it in flour,

682
00:36:08,573 --> 00:36:11,133
Speaker 14: so I love to use that. And then I also

683
00:36:11,213 --> 00:36:13,013
Speaker 14: use about a quart of a cup of lemon juice

684
00:36:13,093 --> 00:36:15,173
Speaker 14: or sort of whatever I've got out of the lemons.

685
00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:16,013
Speaker 5: That I zested.

686
00:36:16,533 --> 00:36:19,573
Speaker 14: Mix that all together. You don't want to overmix it. Lastly,

687
00:36:19,693 --> 00:36:22,053
Speaker 14: I dust some blueberries and I've used about one hundred

688
00:36:22,053 --> 00:36:25,093
Speaker 14: and fifty grams of blueberries. Dust those in a little flour.

689
00:36:25,613 --> 00:36:28,093
Speaker 14: It sort of stops them sinking to the bottom, but

690
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Speaker 14: not all ways.

691
00:36:29,093 --> 00:36:31,173
Speaker 15: So there you go, fold.

692
00:36:30,853 --> 00:36:33,253
Speaker 14: Those through our batter and scrape that batter into the

693
00:36:33,333 --> 00:36:36,293
Speaker 14: loaf tin. I usually line my loaf tin just to

694
00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:38,613
Speaker 14: be on the safe side, and I cook that about

695
00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:41,973
Speaker 14: forty five to fifty five minutes or until a skewer

696
00:36:42,013 --> 00:36:44,773
Speaker 14: comes out, just a few crumbs kind of clinging to it.

697
00:36:45,853 --> 00:36:47,893
Speaker 14: And then when once it's kind of cooled down, I

698
00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:50,653
Speaker 14: just make one of those lemon drizzle icings for it,

699
00:36:51,053 --> 00:36:53,893
Speaker 14: half a cup of icing sugar or thereabouts, and just

700
00:36:54,253 --> 00:36:55,933
Speaker 14: make that into a running icing with a little bit

701
00:36:55,933 --> 00:36:58,493
Speaker 14: of water and some lemon juice and drizzle that over

702
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:01,173
Speaker 14: the top so that it's quite thin. So that's not

703
00:37:01,293 --> 00:37:03,853
Speaker 14: like some silly cupcake with a huge big amount of icing,

704
00:37:03,893 --> 00:37:06,933
Speaker 14: but it's just just enough. And it's very tart as well,

705
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:09,053
Speaker 14: which is quite lovely. Yeah, And it's just look a

706
00:37:09,093 --> 00:37:11,853
Speaker 14: loaf cake is wonderful. It's practical, it's easy to cut,

707
00:37:11,933 --> 00:37:13,893
Speaker 14: it's easy to eat, it's all of those things. So

708
00:37:14,453 --> 00:37:15,773
Speaker 14: I've had no complaints yet.

709
00:37:15,773 --> 00:37:19,253
Speaker 3: Well, I bet you haven't. But I'm worried, Nikki, I'm worried. Well,

710
00:37:20,173 --> 00:37:23,533
Speaker 3: I mean, think about the incentives here. What incentive do

711
00:37:23,613 --> 00:37:25,853
Speaker 3: the trades have to finish up their work in a

712
00:37:25,893 --> 00:37:28,333
Speaker 3: timely fashion? I just know that. I bet there hasn't

713
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,253
Speaker 3: been a project that your place that hasn't had a

714
00:37:30,293 --> 00:37:31,893
Speaker 3: time overrun by a few days.

715
00:37:31,933 --> 00:37:33,333
Speaker 16: You know, I always get it.

716
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Speaker 14: I always get a cost up front for this reason, Jack, Jame, I'm.

717
00:37:36,573 --> 00:37:37,693
Speaker 3: Not very wise.

718
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Speaker 14: I came back to the beach the other day with

719
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Speaker 14: three vans on my lord and I went, that's an

720
00:37:41,933 --> 00:37:45,333
Speaker 14: expensive lawn because I had, you know, a plumber and

721
00:37:45,453 --> 00:37:46,973
Speaker 14: electrician and the lovely building.

722
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Speaker 15: It's a small job and it involves all.

723
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Speaker 14: Of them, and they've been doing a great job.

724
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Speaker 5: So I'm very happy.

725
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Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm glad to hear it. Thank you so much, Nicky.

726
00:37:53,853 --> 00:37:58,253
Speaker 3: Nicky's amazing sounding trades blueberry and lemon loaf cake recipe

727
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Speaker 3: will be on the news talks. He'd be website six

728
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Speaker 3: minutes to ten.

729
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Speaker 1: Inside scoop on them all you need to know Saturday

730
00:38:05,973 --> 00:38:08,533
Speaker 1: morning with Jack Team News Talks.

731
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Speaker 2: At b.

732
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Speaker 3: Two TV shows have me so excited okay. Number one

733
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Speaker 3: is maybe my favorite New Zealand TV show has just

734
00:38:16,773 --> 00:38:19,453
Speaker 3: returned for a brand new season. If you haven't seen it,

735
00:38:19,533 --> 00:38:22,773
Speaker 3: my goodness, get to TVNZ plus and make sure you

736
00:38:22,853 --> 00:38:26,093
Speaker 3: watch Educators. It is so good And in our screen

737
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,933
Speaker 3: time segment after ten o'clock, our screen time expert will

738
00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:30,933
Speaker 3: give us her thoughts on the new season. It's just

739
00:38:31,013 --> 00:38:33,933
Speaker 3: such a funny show. And as well as that, of course,

740
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Speaker 3: The Chase New Zealand is about to launch and right

741
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Speaker 3: after the ten o'clock News and Hegety Aka the Governess

742
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:43,613
Speaker 3: is going to be with us. She has recorded a

743
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Speaker 3: couple of episodes. Paul Henry is hosting The Chase New Zealand,

744
00:38:46,733 --> 00:38:48,253
Speaker 3: so it is going to be really good to catch

745
00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:51,133
Speaker 3: up with Ann and ask her about her experience. News

746
00:38:51,173 --> 00:38:53,613
Speaker 3: is next. Note it's almost ten. I'm Jack Taman. This

747
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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB.

748
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Speaker 2: Cracking.

749
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Speaker 1: Way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack Team

750
00:39:00,693 --> 00:39:01,613
Speaker 1: News Talks at.

751
00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:31,493
Speaker 3: B and Hegety Aka the Governess is a friend of

752
00:39:31,533 --> 00:39:35,813
Speaker 3: the show and beloved member of the Chase. She dominates

753
00:39:35,893 --> 00:39:38,693
Speaker 3: TV screens every night with one of the best win

754
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Speaker 3: rates of any Chaser. And now Anne is going to

755
00:39:41,453 --> 00:39:44,693
Speaker 3: be on our screens in a brand new Kiwi version

756
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Speaker 3: of the TV phenomenon. Yes, The Chase New Zealand premieres

757
00:39:49,733 --> 00:39:52,653
Speaker 3: this week Monday night, seven thirty on TV TV one

758
00:39:52,733 --> 00:39:56,053
Speaker 3: and TV and Z Plus. And Anne Hey aka the

759
00:39:56,093 --> 00:39:58,773
Speaker 3: Governess is with us this morning, Kolda and welcome back

760
00:39:58,773 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 3: to the show.

761
00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:02,973
Speaker 13: Thank you very much. Indeed it's actually the evening.

762
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Speaker 3: Here, yes, yes it is. Indeed, nothing gets part. It

763
00:40:07,453 --> 00:40:10,453
Speaker 3: is so good to be speaking with you, and to

764
00:40:10,453 --> 00:40:12,773
Speaker 3: be speaking with you once again. I mean last time

765
00:40:12,813 --> 00:40:15,253
Speaker 3: you were on the show, you know, we talked a

766
00:40:15,293 --> 00:40:20,053
Speaker 3: little bit about the incredible impact that The Chase is

767
00:40:20,093 --> 00:40:22,253
Speaker 3: head around the world. But what does it say to

768
00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:25,053
Speaker 3: you that the show is now so popular you're bringing

769
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Speaker 3: it down under?

770
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Speaker 13: It's absolutely great. I mean I've known for some years

771
00:40:30,333 --> 00:40:33,333
Speaker 13: that the British show is really popular in New Zealand.

772
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Speaker 13: I think it's watched by about two thirds of the

773
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Speaker 13: population in any given week, which is fantastic. I believe

774
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Speaker 13: that Jacinda Arden even mentioned it to Boris Johnson a

775
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Speaker 13: few years ago. You know, our countries have so much

776
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Speaker 13: in common. We both love The Chase, and I suspect

777
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Speaker 13: that Boris doesn't actually watch The Chase who had no

778
00:40:52,373 --> 00:40:53,453
Speaker 13: idea what she was on about.

779
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Speaker 3: So I could imagine Boris being a fan of the

780
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Speaker 3: Chase or fancying himself as a chaser, don't you he

781
00:41:03,453 --> 00:41:03,933
Speaker 3: might do.

782
00:41:04,133 --> 00:41:06,773
Speaker 13: I mean, there's a certain demographic in the UK that

783
00:41:06,893 --> 00:41:08,813
Speaker 13: is more likely to watch it, and it's not really

784
00:41:08,853 --> 00:41:12,853
Speaker 13: Boris's demographic, right, but loads and loads of people, you know,

785
00:41:12,893 --> 00:41:15,933
Speaker 13: obviously do watch it. We're getting around. We still get

786
00:41:15,933 --> 00:41:19,493
Speaker 13: around three million viewers a day here in the UK

787
00:41:19,813 --> 00:41:23,293
Speaker 13: on at five o'clock in the afternoon, when you know,

788
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Speaker 13: which is not a baud you consider an awful lot

789
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Speaker 13: of people are still traveling home from work. So and

790
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Speaker 13: I've always you know, as I say, I've known for

791
00:41:29,453 --> 00:41:31,853
Speaker 13: years how popular the British show is in New Zealand.

792
00:41:32,133 --> 00:41:34,413
Speaker 13: So it's absolutely brilliant. They finally decided to make a

793
00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:35,813
Speaker 13: KEYWI version. That's excellent.

794
00:41:35,973 --> 00:41:38,293
Speaker 3: Can you distill a magic? Why do you think it's

795
00:41:38,293 --> 00:41:38,853
Speaker 3: so popular?

796
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Speaker 13: It's just a really good format. It took them some

797
00:41:44,413 --> 00:41:46,693
Speaker 13: time to work out the format, but you know now

798
00:41:46,693 --> 00:41:51,133
Speaker 13: that they have it actually, you know, really does work.

799
00:41:51,213 --> 00:41:53,853
Speaker 13: And people can pick up the show, you know, as

800
00:41:53,853 --> 00:41:56,093
Speaker 13: they're coming in from work and they can just look

801
00:41:56,373 --> 00:41:58,813
Speaker 13: and they see you know where we're out, how many

802
00:41:58,853 --> 00:42:01,493
Speaker 13: seats have gone, how much money there is in the pot,

803
00:42:02,693 --> 00:42:05,973
Speaker 13: and it's easy to follow. I think that's what people

804
00:42:06,013 --> 00:42:09,333
Speaker 13: like about it. And there's the opportunities. There are opportunities

805
00:42:09,373 --> 00:42:11,933
Speaker 13: to be funny, as opportunities for the host to be

806
00:42:12,013 --> 00:42:15,173
Speaker 13: funny and the chasers to be funny. And you know,

807
00:42:15,253 --> 00:42:16,573
Speaker 13: no two shows are ever alike.

808
00:42:16,813 --> 00:42:20,333
Speaker 3: So how does the New Zealand version compear from your experience?

809
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:24,013
Speaker 13: I think we've made a really nice little show. It's

810
00:42:24,093 --> 00:42:27,813
Speaker 13: it's only we've only done four episodes because these are

811
00:42:27,893 --> 00:42:33,413
Speaker 13: special was going out in prime time rather than you know,

812
00:42:33,693 --> 00:42:36,733
Speaker 13: the five o'clock show that we do here. But I

813
00:42:36,733 --> 00:42:38,533
Speaker 13: would love it if it took off and I got

814
00:42:38,573 --> 00:42:41,133
Speaker 13: invited to come back to do more. I think, you know,

815
00:42:41,213 --> 00:42:42,773
Speaker 13: I think I think it actually really worked.

816
00:42:42,773 --> 00:42:44,613
Speaker 3: Well, Oh that's good to hear. What did you think

817
00:42:44,613 --> 00:42:45,173
Speaker 3: of the host?

818
00:42:47,293 --> 00:42:49,613
Speaker 13: I wasn't sure what I was going to make of him.

819
00:42:49,653 --> 00:42:53,693
Speaker 13: I've read a bit about him, so I was a

820
00:42:53,693 --> 00:42:57,813
Speaker 13: little wary. And then we actually Easter and I actually

821
00:42:57,813 --> 00:43:01,253
Speaker 13: met him for dinner and he was absolutely delightful and

822
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:04,173
Speaker 13: he was just really good to work with. I had

823
00:43:04,173 --> 00:43:05,533
Speaker 13: a lot of fun working with.

824
00:43:05,493 --> 00:43:08,293
Speaker 3: Him, the real real character, isn't he.

825
00:43:08,813 --> 00:43:11,053
Speaker 13: I found it was very easy to take the mick

826
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Speaker 13: out of him, and he enjoys having the mick taken

827
00:43:12,933 --> 00:43:16,693
Speaker 13: out of it, and you know, I can, I can

828
00:43:16,813 --> 00:43:19,413
Speaker 13: just sort of make him thoroughly uncomfortable, which is huge fun,

829
00:43:20,533 --> 00:43:22,053
Speaker 13: and he really sort of plays up to it. So

830
00:43:22,093 --> 00:43:22,493
Speaker 13: it's great.

831
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Speaker 3: Actually, oh that's really good. Yeah, No, he's He's the

832
00:43:25,093 --> 00:43:27,733
Speaker 3: absolute perfect host. As soon as they announced the Chase

833
00:43:27,813 --> 00:43:29,893
Speaker 3: was coming, everyone in New Zealand's like, oh my godness,

834
00:43:29,893 --> 00:43:31,933
Speaker 3: that's so great. We were saying who's going to who's

835
00:43:31,933 --> 00:43:34,053
Speaker 3: going to be hosting it, and when they announced it

836
00:43:34,053 --> 00:43:36,253
Speaker 3: would be Paul, oh my goodness. But the whole country

837
00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:39,773
Speaker 3: was absolutely delighted. So I'm pleased to hear that. And

838
00:43:39,853 --> 00:43:44,133
Speaker 3: without giving too much away, have they tailored the questions

839
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Speaker 3: specifically for an Antipodean audience and content?

840
00:43:50,373 --> 00:43:53,653
Speaker 13: They're more sort of general knowledge questions, but there is

841
00:43:53,813 --> 00:43:57,253
Speaker 13: quite a bit of specifically New Zealand stuff and is

842
00:43:57,533 --> 00:43:59,933
Speaker 13: and I think perhaps not quite expecting that, and we

843
00:43:59,973 --> 00:44:03,333
Speaker 13: had to get up to speed quite fast. So I'm

844
00:44:03,333 --> 00:44:05,013
Speaker 13: going to be you know, if and I really hope

845
00:44:05,013 --> 00:44:07,813
Speaker 13: this happens, If the show come back then you know,

846
00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:10,653
Speaker 13: I'll be doing sort of quite a lot of deep

847
00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:13,693
Speaker 13: dives into into New Zealand topics and learning how to

848
00:44:13,733 --> 00:44:14,573
Speaker 13: pronounce things.

849
00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:18,493
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I can imagine. Next tricky. So how did

850
00:44:18,533 --> 00:44:20,973
Speaker 3: you go about trying to study New Zealand?

851
00:44:23,333 --> 00:44:25,733
Speaker 13: My first part call tends to be Wikipedia. I tend

852
00:44:25,773 --> 00:44:28,613
Speaker 13: to look things up on there and then sort of,

853
00:44:28,653 --> 00:44:32,533
Speaker 13: you know, follow links to find out other things. I've

854
00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:34,653
Speaker 13: only ever been to New Zealand once, which was in

855
00:44:34,853 --> 00:44:38,893
Speaker 13: twenty seventeen, I think when I visited Auckland, and it

856
00:44:38,973 --> 00:44:41,493
Speaker 13: was lovely and everyone was lovely to me, So you know,

857
00:44:41,533 --> 00:44:42,493
Speaker 13: it'd be great to go back.

858
00:44:42,653 --> 00:44:43,733
Speaker 3: Yeah.

859
00:44:43,933 --> 00:44:46,773
Speaker 13: But you know, even if you don't go back, there

860
00:44:46,813 --> 00:44:48,773
Speaker 13: are a lot of things that you can actually learn.

861
00:44:49,533 --> 00:44:54,413
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean I learned, for example, that I've

862
00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:58,373
Speaker 13: always said Samoa and Samoan and apparently New Zealand is

863
00:44:58,493 --> 00:45:00,773
Speaker 13: some more and Somemon or something like that.

864
00:45:00,853 --> 00:45:03,693
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I'm like, okay, got to remember that. But

865
00:45:04,133 --> 00:45:05,653
Speaker 3: and are you trying to, like, do you have a

866
00:45:05,693 --> 00:45:10,013
Speaker 3: strategy for trying to learn dates or trying to learn

867
00:45:10,213 --> 00:45:12,053
Speaker 3: key historical figures in New Zealand.

868
00:45:12,973 --> 00:45:15,493
Speaker 13: I've never really had a strategy for learning anything it's

869
00:45:15,533 --> 00:45:21,373
Speaker 13: always extremely haphazard. I just sort of follow what interests

870
00:45:21,413 --> 00:45:23,493
Speaker 13: me and then I'll have to sort of, you know,

871
00:45:23,693 --> 00:45:27,333
Speaker 13: try and learn more stuff, certainly about your sports teams,

872
00:45:28,293 --> 00:45:30,453
Speaker 13: because I always have to learn more stuff about sports

873
00:45:30,493 --> 00:45:33,173
Speaker 13: teams and yeah, not really my sort of thing, but

874
00:45:33,253 --> 00:45:36,533
Speaker 13: obviously you know, Kiwis do love their sports, so I'll

875
00:45:36,533 --> 00:45:39,493
Speaker 13: have to do that a bit. More about your history

876
00:45:40,173 --> 00:45:43,493
Speaker 13: and your geography and where places are. Like I said,

877
00:45:43,493 --> 00:45:46,693
Speaker 13: I've really only ever been to Auckland, right, and that's it.

878
00:45:48,013 --> 00:45:50,693
Speaker 13: But yeah, and so reading a lot.

879
00:45:50,613 --> 00:45:53,053
Speaker 3: You basically go on to Wikipedia and then do you

880
00:45:53,133 --> 00:45:55,413
Speaker 3: go down a bit of a Wikipedia rabbit hole? Do

881
00:45:55,453 --> 00:45:57,413
Speaker 3: you just sort of get onto a thread and then

882
00:45:57,453 --> 00:45:59,133
Speaker 3: and then click on a link through there and then

883
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:00,133
Speaker 3: click on another link.

884
00:46:00,853 --> 00:46:05,053
Speaker 13: Basically, yes, a lot of Wikipedia surfing. And I know

885
00:46:05,093 --> 00:46:09,733
Speaker 13: people say, oh, you can't trust Wikipedia. It's fairly trustworthy actually,

886
00:46:09,813 --> 00:46:11,853
Speaker 13: certainly on sort of technical things. I don't think it's

887
00:46:11,853 --> 00:46:13,693
Speaker 13: actually going to start giving me the wrong date for

888
00:46:13,773 --> 00:46:15,253
Speaker 13: the Treaty of White Tangia or.

889
00:46:15,213 --> 00:46:15,853
Speaker 5: Anything like that.

890
00:46:15,973 --> 00:46:19,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's funny. I mean, I hope for your

891
00:46:19,173 --> 00:46:21,253
Speaker 3: sake that we do have lots more at New Zealand shows,

892
00:46:21,293 --> 00:46:24,413
Speaker 3: because if you've had to study our entire history, geography

893
00:46:24,453 --> 00:46:26,533
Speaker 3: and every captain of the All Blacks going back to

894
00:46:27,013 --> 00:46:29,933
Speaker 3: the Originals, then you know there's a lot of information

895
00:46:29,973 --> 00:46:31,373
Speaker 3: that's probably not going to get a whole lot of

896
00:46:31,453 --> 00:46:33,653
Speaker 3: use in unless.

897
00:46:35,733 --> 00:46:38,213
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, you never know what might come up

898
00:46:38,253 --> 00:46:40,173
Speaker 13: in a quiz, and especially you know, I do do

899
00:46:40,293 --> 00:46:43,293
Speaker 13: international quisine. I take part in the I couldn't take

900
00:46:43,333 --> 00:46:46,533
Speaker 13: part in the World Championships this year because I was

901
00:46:46,573 --> 00:46:50,613
Speaker 13: actually filming in Sydney at the time, but you know,

902
00:46:50,653 --> 00:46:52,453
Speaker 13: I try and do that. I try and do the

903
00:46:54,453 --> 00:46:57,653
Speaker 13: various I'm part of an online quiz league that has

904
00:46:58,013 --> 00:47:01,533
Speaker 13: that's mostly Americans, so I try and sort of learn

905
00:47:01,573 --> 00:47:03,533
Speaker 13: American stuff and it would actually be very useful if

906
00:47:03,573 --> 00:47:05,933
Speaker 13: there was a question on New Zealand. The Americans wouldn't

907
00:47:05,973 --> 00:47:08,013
Speaker 13: know and I would, so you know that's going to

908
00:47:08,013 --> 00:47:08,573
Speaker 13: be useful.

909
00:47:08,653 --> 00:47:12,653
Speaker 3: So do you notice a difference when you're quizzing with

910
00:47:12,653 --> 00:47:15,213
Speaker 3: people from around the world, or indeed when you're when

911
00:47:15,213 --> 00:47:18,093
Speaker 3: you're filming the Taste New Zealand, do you notice a

912
00:47:18,133 --> 00:47:21,973
Speaker 3: difference in not the intelligence levels, but in the in

913
00:47:22,053 --> 00:47:25,573
Speaker 3: the recall of people from different areas.

914
00:47:26,573 --> 00:47:31,293
Speaker 13: I think the Brits, especially the English are an advantage

915
00:47:31,773 --> 00:47:34,413
Speaker 13: because we do have this quizzing culture. You know, we

916
00:47:34,573 --> 00:47:37,293
Speaker 13: go out quizzing. I mean, I'm going out to a

917
00:47:37,373 --> 00:47:39,813
Speaker 13: quiz in about what's the time? About an hour and

918
00:47:39,853 --> 00:47:44,373
Speaker 13: a half, right, And I'm also I would normally do

919
00:47:44,493 --> 00:47:47,293
Speaker 13: a quiz tomorrow, but I'm not so I tend to do,

920
00:47:47,493 --> 00:47:51,493
Speaker 13: you know, quizzes at least twice a week, and that

921
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:54,573
Speaker 13: kind of keeps your brain really fresh. And I think,

922
00:47:54,613 --> 00:47:57,773
Speaker 13: you know Australians that perhaps are not doing that sort

923
00:47:57,813 --> 00:48:00,773
Speaker 13: of thing, maybe as a disadvantage, but you know, I

924
00:48:00,893 --> 00:48:04,733
Speaker 13: certainly haven't noticed that either Australians or New Zealanders are

925
00:48:04,853 --> 00:48:08,373
Speaker 13: less intelligent. It's just they don't quite have our quiz

926
00:48:08,373 --> 00:48:12,013
Speaker 13: in culture. But I mean Isa, for example, he did

927
00:48:12,053 --> 00:48:13,773
Speaker 13: take part in the World Championships and I think he

928
00:48:13,813 --> 00:48:16,933
Speaker 13: came up that fourteenth or fifteenth, which is fantastic out

929
00:48:16,973 --> 00:48:19,693
Speaker 13: of the entire world. I mean if I had, if

930
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:22,093
Speaker 13: I had taken part, I would be aiming to be

931
00:48:22,173 --> 00:48:24,493
Speaker 13: in the top hundred, and I would not guarantee that

932
00:48:24,573 --> 00:48:27,293
Speaker 13: I would be because there are so many good quizers

933
00:48:27,333 --> 00:48:30,893
Speaker 13: out there, and clearly, you know, is is really one

934
00:48:30,893 --> 00:48:31,413
Speaker 13: of the best.

935
00:48:31,973 --> 00:48:34,533
Speaker 3: And so when you're going tonight to the quiz. Is

936
00:48:34,573 --> 00:48:36,453
Speaker 3: it at a pub? Is it like a pub quiz?

937
00:48:37,173 --> 00:48:40,253
Speaker 13: It is in a pub, It's not. So there are

938
00:48:40,293 --> 00:48:43,453
Speaker 13: two things. There are pub quizes where you probably have

939
00:48:43,493 --> 00:48:45,573
Speaker 13: the same sort of thing, you know, where where teams

940
00:48:45,613 --> 00:48:49,333
Speaker 13: have funny names and there are lots of teams, and

941
00:48:49,373 --> 00:48:52,453
Speaker 13: there are lots of rounds, and there's a music round,

942
00:48:52,493 --> 00:48:55,493
Speaker 13: and there's a picture around and things like that. That's actually

943
00:48:55,573 --> 00:48:57,533
Speaker 13: not what I'm doing tonight. What I'm doing tonight is

944
00:48:57,613 --> 00:49:00,333
Speaker 13: a league quiz which we've taken place in a pub.

945
00:49:00,813 --> 00:49:04,773
Speaker 13: But it's just two teams obviously to each other. My team.

946
00:49:04,973 --> 00:49:08,093
Speaker 13: My team is as the catchy name of Farnham Common

947
00:49:08,173 --> 00:49:12,013
Speaker 13: Social Club, and we're going to be playing the Swan

948
00:49:13,293 --> 00:49:15,173
Speaker 13: in fact, it's the Swan a because there's two Swan

949
00:49:15,253 --> 00:49:17,373
Speaker 13: teams and we are playing at the Swan in fact.

950
00:49:18,773 --> 00:49:21,293
Speaker 13: So the idea is to beat them, which we sincerely

951
00:49:21,293 --> 00:49:21,773
Speaker 13: hope we will.

952
00:49:21,933 --> 00:49:23,693
Speaker 3: Yes, I was going to say, because I can imagine

953
00:49:23,693 --> 00:49:25,173
Speaker 3: if you were just turning up to a sort of

954
00:49:25,213 --> 00:49:28,653
Speaker 3: a you know, like a random Tuesday night pub quiz

955
00:49:29,053 --> 00:49:31,653
Speaker 3: with you know, a few colleagues who had had a

956
00:49:31,653 --> 00:49:34,413
Speaker 3: couple of beers and were eating some you know, wedges

957
00:49:34,453 --> 00:49:36,493
Speaker 3: and things, and you turn up but sort of hardly

958
00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 3: really people must well, okay, we're really competing for second here.

959
00:49:43,493 --> 00:49:47,973
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean the thing is that actually the top

960
00:49:48,013 --> 00:49:51,053
Speaker 13: quizzes didn't generally not that great on pub quizzes. It

961
00:49:51,093 --> 00:49:55,373
Speaker 13: doesn't always suit us. I'm really not great on picture quizzes,

962
00:49:55,373 --> 00:50:00,253
Speaker 13: for example. Interest we can't recognize people, right, so you know,

963
00:50:00,293 --> 00:50:03,053
Speaker 13: we would not necessarily a bit an advantage for something

964
00:50:03,173 --> 00:50:06,773
Speaker 13: like that. And the thing tonight, I mean, I will

965
00:50:07,573 --> 00:50:10,733
Speaker 13: probably be the most useful member of the team.

966
00:50:10,493 --> 00:50:11,973
Speaker 3: But not by much.

967
00:50:12,933 --> 00:50:16,373
Speaker 13: And last year we did win both the Cup and

968
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:21,093
Speaker 13: the league, but that's only because our main rivals had

969
00:50:21,093 --> 00:50:24,093
Speaker 13: a split and their best player left, so we kind

970
00:50:24,133 --> 00:50:27,453
Speaker 13: of came through the middle. But I don't guarantee that,

971
00:50:27,533 --> 00:50:28,813
Speaker 13: you know, we'll actually defend it.

972
00:50:29,133 --> 00:50:29,533
Speaker 2: Yeah.

973
00:50:29,693 --> 00:50:32,333
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of drama, should we expeak to a bit

974
00:50:32,373 --> 00:50:36,653
Speaker 3: of drama with the New Zealand Chase? I hope, So

975
00:50:37,373 --> 00:50:38,973
Speaker 3: don't give too much away. We don't want to know

976
00:50:39,013 --> 00:50:40,533
Speaker 3: if you won or last night.

977
00:50:43,133 --> 00:50:45,293
Speaker 13: But you know, you know what the chase is like

978
00:50:45,373 --> 00:50:49,293
Speaker 13: and the final chase certainly you know that they they

979
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:52,813
Speaker 13: have been setting decent targets, targets that have beaten me

980
00:50:53,053 --> 00:50:55,173
Speaker 13: in the past, targets that have beaten me in the past,

981
00:50:55,213 --> 00:50:57,133
Speaker 13: and you'll just have to watch and see what happened.

982
00:50:57,733 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 13: But you know, certainly I was taking nothing for granted.

983
00:51:00,573 --> 00:51:06,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, we are absolutely delighted and honestly and

984
00:51:06,373 --> 00:51:07,733
Speaker 3: we would love to have you here for a whole

985
00:51:07,733 --> 00:51:11,173
Speaker 3: lot longer. So if it does turn into a longer series,

986
00:51:11,173 --> 00:51:13,293
Speaker 3: we would we would welcome you with woken with with

987
00:51:13,493 --> 00:51:16,173
Speaker 3: with open arms. And even though you say you're not

988
00:51:16,213 --> 00:51:18,093
Speaker 3: suited to quiz teams, we will take you with my

989
00:51:18,173 --> 00:51:22,933
Speaker 3: team any week. Good luck this evening. You up on

990
00:51:22,973 --> 00:51:26,213
Speaker 3: that good luck and we look forward to seeing you

991
00:51:26,253 --> 00:51:29,133
Speaker 3: again really soon. Thank you so much, Bendy, thank you.

992
00:51:29,493 --> 00:51:32,893
Speaker 3: That is a Hegety aka the Governess from The Chase.

993
00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:33,693
Speaker 4: Ah.

994
00:51:33,733 --> 00:51:35,773
Speaker 3: I love that show so much. I love and so

995
00:51:35,893 --> 00:51:39,093
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996
00:51:39,213 --> 00:51:43,973
Speaker 3: Zealand premier years Monday night, seven thirty pm, TV one

997
00:51:44,253 --> 00:51:48,413
Speaker 3: and TV n Z plus Now before eleven o'clock on

998
00:51:48,453 --> 00:51:53,853
Speaker 3: news Talk zed B. My goodness, stocks for Nvidia, the

999
00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:57,813
Speaker 3: world's biggest chip maker, just keep going up and up

1000
00:51:57,893 --> 00:52:00,253
Speaker 3: and up. It's hit a new record this week. It's

1001
00:52:00,293 --> 00:52:04,333
Speaker 3: become the first company to be valued at five trillion

1002
00:52:04,693 --> 00:52:07,973
Speaker 3: US dollars. That's the market cat for a video five trillion.

1003
00:52:08,293 --> 00:52:11,093
Speaker 3: Just a reminder, a trillion is one thousand billion, and

1004
00:52:11,173 --> 00:52:15,973
Speaker 3: a billion is one thousand million, So five thousand thousand millions.

1005
00:52:16,213 --> 00:52:20,373
Speaker 3: That's how much much video is worth according to its

1006
00:52:20,413 --> 00:52:23,893
Speaker 3: market cap. I mean, it's just fantastical stuff, isn't it. Anyway,

1007
00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:25,973
Speaker 3: we're going to get our textperts thoughts on that. What

1008
00:52:26,053 --> 00:52:29,973
Speaker 3: will it actually mean for the state of the AI race. Plus,

1009
00:52:29,973 --> 00:52:32,333
Speaker 3: we're in the garden where a man in the garden

1010
00:52:32,413 --> 00:52:35,413
Speaker 3: is looking at some colorful native plant options for your place.

1011
00:52:36,053 --> 00:52:38,773
Speaker 3: Right now, though it is twenty past ten. Screen time

1012
00:52:38,813 --> 00:52:40,373
Speaker 3: picks for this week next.

1013
00:52:41,893 --> 00:52:45,293
Speaker 1: Not your weekend Off the Right Way Saturday Morning with

1014
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:49,013
Speaker 1: jackdam News Talks Evy Morning.

1015
00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:51,453
Speaker 3: Jack says Mark, I love the chase too. Have you

1016
00:52:51,493 --> 00:52:54,613
Speaker 3: ever noticed that competitors involved in comedy in any way

1017
00:52:54,733 --> 00:52:58,213
Speaker 3: are often the cleverest and most successful. That is a

1018
00:52:58,293 --> 00:53:00,293
Speaker 3: very good point, Mark, I wonder why that is. I

1019
00:53:00,373 --> 00:53:04,493
Speaker 3: wonder if actually being quick and being able to recall

1020
00:53:04,653 --> 00:53:08,773
Speaker 3: things like if there's a little like quality in there

1021
00:53:08,853 --> 00:53:12,653
Speaker 3: somewhere that makes you good at comedy and make whatever

1022
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:14,293
Speaker 3: whatever it is that makes you good at comedy, makes

1023
00:53:14,293 --> 00:53:15,733
Speaker 3: you good at quizzing as well, makes you good at

1024
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:18,093
Speaker 3: general knowledge as well. I think you're right. I think

1025
00:53:18,093 --> 00:53:20,693
Speaker 3: there could be something in there, Musis Jack. Imagine doing

1026
00:53:20,733 --> 00:53:22,613
Speaker 3: a quiz and she turns up in the other team.

1027
00:53:22,653 --> 00:53:26,333
Speaker 3: You just concede defeat immediately, wouldn't you, Or you concede victory,

1028
00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:30,173
Speaker 3: wouldn't you? Yeah, I think you would. Muzz. I'm not

1029
00:53:30,213 --> 00:53:31,813
Speaker 3: sure that I buy it when Nancy, she's not good

1030
00:53:31,813 --> 00:53:34,773
Speaker 3: at pub quizzers necessarily, It's going to be so interesting though,

1031
00:53:34,813 --> 00:53:36,693
Speaker 3: isn't it, Especially when it comes to that final chase,

1032
00:53:36,853 --> 00:53:40,453
Speaker 3: seeing the chases up against New Zealand contestants, when there

1033
00:53:40,453 --> 00:53:43,413
Speaker 3: are New Zealand themed questions. You know who was All Black?

1034
00:53:43,493 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 3: Nine hundred and seventy eight GOLP can't wait for that

1035
00:53:47,013 --> 00:53:49,933
Speaker 3: seven thirty Monday TV one, tvn Z plus the Chase

1036
00:53:50,013 --> 00:53:51,453
Speaker 3: kicks off. If you want to send us a message,

1037
00:53:51,493 --> 00:53:53,493
Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two is our text number. At screen

1038
00:53:53,573 --> 00:53:56,613
Speaker 3: time Time, Tara awards our screen time experts. She picks

1039
00:53:57,053 --> 00:53:59,293
Speaker 3: three shows for us every week. It's a given Tara

1040
00:53:59,333 --> 00:54:01,573
Speaker 3: that we're all very excited about the chase, so we'll

1041
00:54:01,573 --> 00:54:03,213
Speaker 3: put that to the side for the time being to

1042
00:54:03,333 --> 00:54:06,093
Speaker 3: tell us about Down Cemetery Road.

1043
00:54:07,133 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 11: Yeah, this is a new crime mystery series starring Emma

1044
00:54:10,133 --> 00:54:13,253
Speaker 11: Thompson and it's not often that Emma Thompson does television,

1045
00:54:13,333 --> 00:54:15,733
Speaker 11: so just seeing her name in the cast list were

1046
00:54:15,733 --> 00:54:18,933
Speaker 11: a big yess from me for the show. Another big

1047
00:54:19,013 --> 00:54:21,173
Speaker 11: yess is that this series is based on a book

1048
00:54:21,173 --> 00:54:23,733
Speaker 11: by Mick Heron and adapted for television by more when

1049
00:54:23,773 --> 00:54:25,973
Speaker 11: At Banks and they are the same people behind the

1050
00:54:26,013 --> 00:54:29,293
Speaker 11: TV series Slow Horses, which is one of Apple TV's

1051
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:31,133
Speaker 11: best shows, one of the best shows on television. So

1052
00:54:31,173 --> 00:54:33,933
Speaker 11: if you are a fan of Slow Horses, Down Cemetery

1053
00:54:34,013 --> 00:54:36,253
Speaker 11: Road is one for you as well. But Emma Thompson

1054
00:54:36,253 --> 00:54:40,133
Speaker 11: plays Zoe, who's a private investigator and who's contacted by

1055
00:54:40,133 --> 00:54:43,013
Speaker 11: a woman called Sarah who's played by the wonderful Ruth Wilson.

1056
00:54:43,693 --> 00:54:45,973
Speaker 11: Sarah is having a dinner party one night when there's

1057
00:54:45,973 --> 00:54:48,253
Speaker 11: an explosion in the house next door and the young

1058
00:54:48,293 --> 00:54:51,893
Speaker 11: girl who lives Sarah is injured and afterwards, Sarah tries

1059
00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:54,293
Speaker 11: to find the girl at the hospital and also goes

1060
00:54:54,333 --> 00:54:56,733
Speaker 11: to the police, but she realizes that there's some kind

1061
00:54:56,813 --> 00:54:59,653
Speaker 11: of cover up going on about what actually caused the

1062
00:54:59,693 --> 00:55:02,213
Speaker 11: explosion and what has happened to the young girl, and

1063
00:55:02,253 --> 00:55:06,453
Speaker 11: she becomes obsessed with finding out and contacts Zoe to

1064
00:55:06,453 --> 00:55:09,493
Speaker 11: to help her investigate what's going on. And there's another

1065
00:55:09,533 --> 00:55:12,533
Speaker 11: storyline that runs through this that involves some bumbling agents

1066
00:55:12,533 --> 00:55:15,133
Speaker 11: at the Ministry of Defense who are trying to cover

1067
00:55:15,253 --> 00:55:17,973
Speaker 11: up the explosion and who definitely don't need Sarah and

1068
00:55:18,053 --> 00:55:23,373
Speaker 11: Zoe poking round to expose their incompetence. I really enjoyed this.

1069
00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:25,773
Speaker 11: Emma Thompson, as you would expects, so good in this.

1070
00:55:26,133 --> 00:55:29,133
Speaker 11: Ruth Wilson is brilliant as well. They make a wonderful

1071
00:55:29,133 --> 00:55:33,173
Speaker 11: team together, and there's lots of that same dry, biting

1072
00:55:33,293 --> 00:55:36,653
Speaker 11: British humor that you get in Slow Horses. It's Apple TV,

1073
00:55:36,813 --> 00:55:39,533
Speaker 11: so it looks beautiful and stylish, and it's filmed in Oxford,

1074
00:55:39,613 --> 00:55:43,773
Speaker 11: so it has this gorgeous historic backdrop. Lots of twists

1075
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Speaker 11: and turns and lots of tension, but just one of

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Speaker 11: those shows that is just a joy to watch.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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00:55:48,693 --> 00:55:51,613
Speaker 11: It's well acted, it's well written, it's just great TV.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic sounds really good. Okay, so that's down Humetry road.

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Speaker 3: It's on Apple TV Plus on Neon. Tell us about it,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Dairy.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I took one for the team this week.

1083
00:56:02,973 --> 00:56:05,533
Speaker 11: This is a new horror series that's just come to

1084
00:56:05,613 --> 00:56:09,733
Speaker 11: Neon by the book. It's by Stephen King. And you know,

1085
00:56:09,853 --> 00:56:12,893
Speaker 11: supernatural horror is not really a genre of television that

1086
00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:15,693
Speaker 11: I'm instinctively drawn to, but there has been a lot

1087
00:56:15,773 --> 00:56:18,733
Speaker 11: of hype around the show. It's made by HBO and

1088
00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:21,133
Speaker 11: it's a prequel to the movie It, so it's the

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00:56:21,133 --> 00:56:25,213
Speaker 11: origin story of the evil clown Pennywise. It takes place

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00:56:25,253 --> 00:56:27,493
Speaker 11: in the nineteen sixties and the town of Dairy and

1091
00:56:27,573 --> 00:56:32,053
Speaker 11: Maine against a backdrop of the American Civil Rights movement

1092
00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:35,173
Speaker 11: and the Cold War, and it's about the horrors that

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00:56:35,213 --> 00:56:37,533
Speaker 11: take place when a new couple move to town just

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00:56:37,573 --> 00:56:39,653
Speaker 11: as a young boy goes missing, and lots of bad

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00:56:39,693 --> 00:56:43,333
Speaker 11: things happen afterwards. And you know, this is everything I

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00:56:43,333 --> 00:56:46,293
Speaker 11: would have expected from a Stephen King horror series. It's dark,

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00:56:46,413 --> 00:56:50,213
Speaker 11: it's creepy, it's gory, it's stressful. I mean, if this

1098
00:56:50,253 --> 00:56:52,733
Speaker 11: is your genre, you're probably already all over this. It

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00:56:52,853 --> 00:56:56,613
Speaker 11: tacks all the supernatural horror boxes. It's honoring the films

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00:56:57,133 --> 00:56:59,053
Speaker 11: and books that have come before it, So I think

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00:56:59,133 --> 00:57:03,293
Speaker 11: fans will enjoy discovering this early early chapter in the story.

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00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:06,293
Speaker 11: But if you want something to make the heartreaate gar

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00:57:06,693 --> 00:57:08,213
Speaker 11: this weekend, I would give let's.

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Speaker 3: Agard Okay, fantastic, So that's it. Welcome to Darry. I'm

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00:57:11,533 --> 00:57:13,213
Speaker 3: glad you did it, because it's not going to be me.

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Speaker 5: Do you know?

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00:57:14,133 --> 00:57:17,573
Speaker 3: When I was thirteen, I had a sleepover party for

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00:57:17,653 --> 00:57:20,813
Speaker 3: my birthday, and you know, I was sort of thinking, oh,

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00:57:20,853 --> 00:57:23,493
Speaker 3: I'm a teenager and I very you know, very important

1110
00:57:23,493 --> 00:57:27,533
Speaker 3: and mature and independent things. And I asked my dad

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00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:31,533
Speaker 3: to rent out it the original and I think it

1112
00:57:31,573 --> 00:57:34,533
Speaker 3: was an ra eighteen film, so I'm surprised he did it.

1113
00:57:34,573 --> 00:57:36,373
Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, he didn't read the cover of it.

1114
00:57:36,653 --> 00:57:38,693
Speaker 3: He got hit the clown and we sat there and

1115
00:57:38,733 --> 00:57:40,813
Speaker 3: watched it, and I don't think any of us, any

1116
00:57:40,853 --> 00:57:42,733
Speaker 3: of me or my mates who all had the sleepover,

1117
00:57:42,773 --> 00:57:46,133
Speaker 3: had a moment's sleep that night. We were so terrif again.

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00:57:47,773 --> 00:57:51,293
Speaker 3: I still just remember being like petrified, and I was

1119
00:57:51,333 --> 00:57:53,413
Speaker 3: all looking at each other being like we're having fun, right,

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00:57:53,453 --> 00:57:55,213
Speaker 3: and it was like no one was having fun.

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Speaker 11: So we're never coming back to Jack's exactly.

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00:57:59,533 --> 00:58:01,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you watched it, and I don't have

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Speaker 3: to last, but not least honestly, this is my favorite

1124
00:58:04,413 --> 00:58:06,333
Speaker 3: New Zealand show. And I know that sounds crazy, but

1125
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Speaker 3: I just love the show so much. On TVNZ plus

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00:58:10,053 --> 00:58:12,573
Speaker 3: tell us about the return of Educators.

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00:58:13,253 --> 00:58:14,933
Speaker 11: Yeah, this is one of my favorites too. This is

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Speaker 11: a Educators. A new season drops on TVNZ plus today.

1129
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:22,133
Speaker 11: This is the unscripted comedy series created by Jackie Van Beek,

1130
00:58:22,253 --> 00:58:26,013
Speaker 11: Jesse Griffin and Johnny Bruff and it's a satire about

1131
00:58:26,013 --> 00:58:28,453
Speaker 11: what goes on behind the scenes at a fictional New

1132
00:58:28,573 --> 00:58:32,333
Speaker 11: Zealand high school which is staffed by teachers who you

1133
00:58:32,413 --> 00:58:34,733
Speaker 11: don't really want looking after your children. That they are

1134
00:58:34,773 --> 00:58:38,293
Speaker 11: not very likable, they make terrible decisions and they behave

1135
00:58:38,373 --> 00:58:41,493
Speaker 11: in some very questionable ways, luckily for us, with some

1136
00:58:41,613 --> 00:58:44,773
Speaker 11: very funny results. And the comedy and this is quite

1137
00:58:44,853 --> 00:58:47,533
Speaker 11: dark and awkward and may not be for everyone. But

1138
00:58:47,613 --> 00:58:50,653
Speaker 11: what I really love about Educators is that it's unscripted.

1139
00:58:51,013 --> 00:58:54,573
Speaker 11: These actors and comedians are improvising their way through every

1140
00:58:54,613 --> 00:58:56,693
Speaker 11: scene and it is just such a delight. The cast

1141
00:58:56,813 --> 00:59:00,573
Speaker 11: is so good and skilled and everything is unpredictable. And

1142
00:59:00,613 --> 00:59:03,493
Speaker 11: this new season season four has some amazing guest stars,

1143
00:59:03,573 --> 00:59:08,573
Speaker 11: Takeaway Teti, British comedy legend, Julia Davis, and Julian Barrett

1144
00:59:08,573 --> 00:59:11,253
Speaker 11: from The Mighty Boosh. So I love that season four,

1145
00:59:11,533 --> 00:59:14,893
Speaker 11: just as strong, just as funny, just as uncomfortable. I'm

1146
00:59:14,933 --> 00:59:17,693
Speaker 11: so glad it's back, and all four seasons are up

1147
00:59:17,733 --> 00:59:19,333
Speaker 11: on TVNZ plus SUPERB.

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00:59:19,613 --> 00:59:21,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tame family favorite that when I come

1149
00:59:21,973 --> 00:59:25,053
Speaker 3: from a family of educators, and sometimes the jokes like

1150
00:59:25,173 --> 00:59:27,413
Speaker 3: cut a little close to the bone, you know, it's like,

1151
00:59:27,493 --> 00:59:29,893
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I know this is a comedy, but

1152
00:59:29,973 --> 00:59:35,053
Speaker 3: that's alarmingly real, too true. Yeah, okay, So Educators is

1153
00:59:35,053 --> 00:59:37,333
Speaker 3: on TV and Z plus it Welcome to Derry is

1154
00:59:37,333 --> 00:59:40,773
Speaker 3: on Neon Down Cemetery Road is on Apple TV plus.

1155
00:59:40,813 --> 00:59:43,693
Speaker 3: All of those shows are on the News Talks dB website.

1156
00:59:43,853 --> 00:59:52,133
Speaker 3: It's ten thirty.

1157
00:59:49,453 --> 00:59:51,093
Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

1158
00:59:51,293 --> 00:59:54,893
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks EDB.

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01:00:06,373 --> 01:00:08,173
Speaker 17: If you wants.

1160
01:00:20,733 --> 01:00:25,293
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I love that song so good seventeen

1161
01:00:25,413 --> 01:00:29,853
Speaker 3: years ago that came out. It's this crazy Florence Welch.

1162
01:00:30,213 --> 01:00:32,173
Speaker 3: Of course is her name. I reckon I'd recognize that

1163
01:00:32,253 --> 01:00:35,893
Speaker 3: voice anywhere instantly in a moment. Florence in the Machine

1164
01:00:36,613 --> 01:00:39,973
Speaker 3: is the name of the artist, and Florence in the

1165
01:00:39,973 --> 01:00:42,333
Speaker 3: Machine could reasonably claimed to be I think the most

1166
01:00:42,373 --> 01:00:46,693
Speaker 3: consistently successful British artist of this generation. Her influence on

1167
01:00:46,813 --> 01:00:51,133
Speaker 3: modern pop is everywhere. Florence and Machine's music has been

1168
01:00:51,133 --> 01:00:54,053
Speaker 3: sampled by Kendrick Lamar and by Drake. She's collaborated with

1169
01:00:54,093 --> 01:00:57,293
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga, being hailed as an inspiration

1170
01:00:57,453 --> 01:01:01,773
Speaker 3: by Beyonce. Don't you worry about that? Her music's often

1171
01:01:01,813 --> 01:01:05,813
Speaker 3: interlaced with themes of paganism, of witchcraft, of references to

1172
01:01:05,893 --> 01:01:10,373
Speaker 3: centuries old mystic and fittingly, Florence in the Machine's latest

1173
01:01:10,413 --> 01:01:14,653
Speaker 3: album has been released on Halloween. The album's called Everybody's

1174
01:01:14,653 --> 01:01:17,373
Speaker 3: Scream and our music reviewer is going to be in

1175
01:01:17,413 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 3: with his thoughts for former day to day. We'll play

1176
01:01:19,653 --> 01:01:22,653
Speaker 3: a couple of songs as well as that after eleven

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Speaker 3: o'clock on news Talk zb Our sustainability expert is a

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Speaker 3: few months into motherhood. You might remember that when she

1179
01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:33,893
Speaker 3: was expecting, she was thinking about her different nappy options

1180
01:01:34,013 --> 01:01:36,493
Speaker 3: and she wanted to do her very best not to

1181
01:01:36,653 --> 01:01:41,653
Speaker 3: use any disposable nappies. As well as that she decided

1182
01:01:41,733 --> 01:01:46,413
Speaker 3: she would try and teach her new baby elimination communication,

1183
01:01:46,813 --> 01:01:51,133
Speaker 3: which is basically when you try and tell your baby

1184
01:01:51,173 --> 01:01:53,173
Speaker 3: when to go to the loo. So you hold the

1185
01:01:53,213 --> 01:01:55,733
Speaker 3: baby over the loo and you try and you try

1186
01:01:55,773 --> 01:01:58,693
Speaker 3: and communicate to the baby when to go to the toilet.

1187
01:01:59,013 --> 01:02:01,613
Speaker 3: So after eleven, given she's a few months into motherhood.

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01:02:01,653 --> 01:02:05,973
Speaker 3: Now Kate, our sustainability expert, is going to give us

1189
01:02:06,013 --> 01:02:07,853
Speaker 3: a bit of an update on how it's all going,

1190
01:02:07,893 --> 01:02:11,133
Speaker 3: whether or not she has used any disposable nappies, and

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01:02:11,173 --> 01:02:13,013
Speaker 3: if anything else is tripped her up. I want to

1192
01:02:13,013 --> 01:02:15,533
Speaker 3: have a carpet to looking at their place. Twenty five

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01:02:15,573 --> 01:02:17,773
Speaker 3: to eleven, our texperts here next.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the Mic Hosking

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01:02:21,853 --> 01:02:23,853
Speaker 1: breakfast Since of satisfaction.

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Speaker 5: Oh very much? So you care? You say?

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Speaker 18: Eight eight percent? Eight eight and a half percent. There's

1198
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:29,093
Speaker 18: a pretty good turnout from out from a Shielders that

1199
01:02:29,173 --> 01:02:31,053
Speaker 18: gave us the thunder up and endorsement that we had

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01:02:31,053 --> 01:02:31,653
Speaker 18: another right direction.

1201
01:02:31,853 --> 01:02:34,093
Speaker 3: The road shows that you did. Was it always eighty

1202
01:02:34,133 --> 01:02:35,613
Speaker 3: eight percent? Or did you have to work hard?

1203
01:02:35,693 --> 01:02:36,893
Speaker 18: Oh no, we had to work hard. I mean, if

1204
01:02:36,933 --> 01:02:38,933
Speaker 18: I go back to when the announcement was first made.

1205
01:02:39,573 --> 01:02:41,173
Speaker 18: You know, there's a few questions out there you should

1206
01:02:41,213 --> 01:02:42,093
Speaker 18: expect from from a farmer.

1207
01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:44,013
Speaker 5: Shielders they had a lot invested in this company, and.

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01:02:43,933 --> 01:02:46,053
Speaker 18: So you know, we needed fifty percent to have But

1209
01:02:46,133 --> 01:02:47,733
Speaker 18: we came out really clearly and send you know, fifty

1210
01:02:47,773 --> 01:02:49,213
Speaker 18: cent's not good enough for us. We were on a

1211
01:02:49,253 --> 01:02:51,373
Speaker 18: decent endate, which was up. The conversation around whether we

1212
01:02:51,373 --> 01:02:53,293
Speaker 18: should be in consumers been on our agenda for call

1213
01:02:53,293 --> 01:02:54,173
Speaker 18: it twenty years, if hooking.

1214
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Speaker 9: If I'm honest, back Monday from six am the Mic

1215
01:02:57,773 --> 01:03:00,453
Speaker 9: Hosking Breakfast with a Vida News Talk.

1216
01:03:00,333 --> 01:03:03,733
Speaker 3: ZB twenty two to eleven non news talks, he'd be.

1217
01:03:03,813 --> 01:03:05,973
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a week of mixed fortunes to

1218
01:03:06,053 --> 01:03:08,853
Speaker 3: some of the tech companies in the world. So at

1219
01:03:08,853 --> 01:03:12,013
Speaker 3: the same time as Amazon has announced it is firing

1220
01:03:12,293 --> 01:03:17,253
Speaker 3: fourteen thousand people, in Vidia has become the first company

1221
01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:19,893
Speaker 3: in the world to hit a market cap valuation of

1222
01:03:20,053 --> 01:03:26,733
Speaker 3: five trillion dollars five thousand billion US dollars. Our textbook,

1223
01:03:26,733 --> 01:03:29,533
Speaker 3: Paul Stenhouse no doubt has a big slice of that pie,

1224
01:03:29,613 --> 01:03:30,773
Speaker 3: and he's with us this morning.

1225
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Speaker 8: He was a very small slice. I will say I

1226
01:03:34,933 --> 01:03:37,373
Speaker 8: was very lucky. I have got a ten teny.

1227
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Speaker 3: Size of that pie.

1228
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Speaker 8: But it has done very well.

1229
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1230
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Speaker 8: I think my investment in it is up eight hundred

1231
01:03:42,333 --> 01:03:43,173
Speaker 8: or nine hundred.

1232
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Speaker 3: Percent almost just incredible. Yeah, Okay, I mean I turned

1233
01:03:46,773 --> 01:03:48,773
Speaker 3: like a dollar. You gotta sell, Paul, you gotta sell

1234
01:03:48,853 --> 01:03:51,093
Speaker 3: I reckon that bubbles pop and sometimes soon come.

1235
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Speaker 8: On seriously, right, I mean like so just well.

1236
01:03:54,453 --> 01:03:57,693
Speaker 3: Just fantastical like it just come on. Yes, Yeah, I.

1237
01:03:57,693 --> 01:03:59,773
Speaker 8: Mean we talked about this just three months ago when

1238
01:03:59,773 --> 01:04:02,213
Speaker 8: it was the first company to hit four trillion dollars,

1239
01:04:02,453 --> 01:04:05,893
Speaker 8: and in three months it has now hit another trillion

1240
01:04:05,893 --> 01:04:09,453
Speaker 8: dollars in so it's a quarter up in three months.

1241
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Speaker 5: Is just crazy.

1242
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Speaker 8: And when you start to put some of this into perspective,

1243
01:04:13,533 --> 01:04:17,013
Speaker 8: it's just it's eight point three percent of the entire

1244
01:04:17,173 --> 01:04:20,093
Speaker 8: sm P five hundred, So of the five hundred largest

1245
01:04:20,093 --> 01:04:23,293
Speaker 8: companies that the index tracks, it's eight point three percent

1246
01:04:23,333 --> 01:04:25,773
Speaker 8: of them, which means if you're like me and hold

1247
01:04:25,813 --> 01:04:27,933
Speaker 8: some of those low cost kind of index funds in

1248
01:04:27,973 --> 01:04:31,413
Speaker 8: your retirement account, you certainly feel every effect, the good,

1249
01:04:31,573 --> 01:04:33,853
Speaker 8: the bad, the ugly when it comes to in Vidia's

1250
01:04:33,853 --> 01:04:37,333
Speaker 8: market moving up and down. But the five trillion number, Jack,

1251
01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:38,493
Speaker 8: I have to come back to it. I had to

1252
01:04:38,533 --> 01:04:40,173
Speaker 8: do some I had to look at some other companies

1253
01:04:40,573 --> 01:04:45,213
Speaker 8: to think to see how it compares. Okay, if you

1254
01:04:45,373 --> 01:04:49,493
Speaker 8: take the top nine pharmaceutical companies in the world, it

1255
01:04:49,613 --> 01:04:53,773
Speaker 8: is worth almost double those top nine companies. If you

1256
01:04:53,893 --> 01:04:58,493
Speaker 8: take the top eight global oil companies, combine them all,

1257
01:04:58,773 --> 01:05:00,933
Speaker 8: it's worth about one point five times that.

1258
01:05:01,253 --> 01:05:01,453
Speaker 2: Wow.

1259
01:05:01,493 --> 01:05:04,373
Speaker 8: Now let's compare it to something a little closer to home.

1260
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Speaker 8: How about New Zealand's government debt of one hundred and.

1261
01:05:06,813 --> 01:05:07,493
Speaker 3: Eighty two billion.

1262
01:05:07,733 --> 01:05:13,653
Speaker 8: Right, it is twenty seven times greater than New Zealand's debt.

1263
01:05:15,933 --> 01:05:18,813
Speaker 8: There's just a staggering number.

1264
01:05:18,973 --> 01:05:23,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's crazy. It's just Yeah. But one

1265
01:05:23,133 --> 01:05:25,653
Speaker 3: of the things you say about AI, like have we

1266
01:05:25,733 --> 01:05:28,973
Speaker 3: had the results from AI to justify this kind of

1267
01:05:29,053 --> 01:05:32,133
Speaker 3: valuation for the company that makes the chips that drives AI.

1268
01:05:33,813 --> 01:05:37,013
Speaker 3: I mean no, the market would say ye, yes, I'm

1269
01:05:37,013 --> 01:05:40,973
Speaker 3: sure the market would yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It

1270
01:05:41,013 --> 01:05:45,773
Speaker 3: just feels like, yeah, I mean, who knows where these

1271
01:05:45,813 --> 01:05:47,533
Speaker 3: things go, right, you know, we'll be sitting here in

1272
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Speaker 3: three weeks. We could be sitting here in a very weeks

1273
01:05:49,373 --> 01:05:52,013
Speaker 3: saying like, wow, there's been a crazy stock market crash

1274
01:05:52,013 --> 01:05:53,573
Speaker 3: and the bubbles burst, or we could be sitting here

1275
01:05:53,613 --> 01:05:55,493
Speaker 3: at being market that he has become the first company

1276
01:05:55,613 --> 01:05:59,453
Speaker 3: with forty to be worth seven trillion dollars. Yeah, I know.

1277
01:05:59,573 --> 01:06:01,493
Speaker 8: I mean it was three months ago that it hit four.

1278
01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:03,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, like now is it five?

1279
01:06:03,453 --> 01:06:03,733
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1280
01:06:03,773 --> 01:06:10,293
Speaker 3: Crazy? Okay? Oh Amazon, fourteen thousand jobs are gone. Yeah.

1281
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Speaker 3: What does this mean for the state of the company

1282
01:06:12,133 --> 01:06:13,293
Speaker 3: and what kind of jobs are going?

1283
01:06:13,853 --> 01:06:14,053
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1284
01:06:14,293 --> 01:06:19,093
Speaker 8: All corporate jobs. So this I they hire another staggering

1285
01:06:19,173 --> 01:06:21,053
Speaker 8: number of people or something like close to a million.

1286
01:06:20,813 --> 01:06:25,373
Speaker 20: People around the world or something just unbelievable. That sounds

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Speaker 20: like it might be too big of a number, but anyway,

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Speaker 20: huge number of people. These are all people who work

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Speaker 20: in their corporate offices. These are desk jobs, as are developers.

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Speaker 20: This is hr this is facilities, this is not people

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Speaker 20: who are working in their warehouses.

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Speaker 8: Huge number of people, massive ripple effects across just every industry.

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Speaker 8: And they're not done either. The guidance they put out

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Speaker 8: was that they were going to get rid of thirty

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Speaker 8: thousand jobs. So this is fourteen, So they're expecting another

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Speaker 8: sort of fourteen fifteen thousand jobs at the start of

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Speaker 8: next year. They've said that they are trimming some of

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Speaker 8: the fat from their big COVID hiring spree. They said

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Speaker 8: that they are doing some of the lean into the

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Speaker 8: AI tooling. Again, just staggering numbers, right, you let go

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Speaker 8: of four teen thousand people. The severance payments are expected

1302
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Speaker 8: to be one point eight billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, look, it didn't have too much of

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Speaker 8: effect on the market when they made that announcement that the.

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Speaker 21: Day was relatively flat.

1307
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Speaker 8: But their AWS or they did their earnings call just yesterday,

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Speaker 8: I think, and stock popped. AWS is doing huge things.

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Speaker 8: Stocks up this week seven percent alone.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 8: I don't think the market minds that they just lost

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Speaker 8: fourteen thousand people. But yeah, yeah, wow, wow, wow, I

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Speaker 8: think I think the Fed. I don't know, if you

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Speaker 8: saw the news this week the FED lowered interest rates

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01:07:45,013 --> 01:07:48,773
Speaker 8: over here, then they you know, they've kind of put

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Speaker 8: out their guidance would there be potentially another cut before

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Speaker 8: the end of the year, and they said, well, wait

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Speaker 8: and see. They saw that number and that was a.

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Speaker 3: Little shopping to them. Yeah, yeah, I'm not surprised. Have

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Speaker 3: very quickly done the maths. So five trillion, right, if

1321
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Speaker 3: you were earning a dollar a second, right, one dollar

1322
01:08:04,293 --> 01:08:07,453
Speaker 3: every second, it would take you one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: eight thousand years to get to five trillion. Just incredible,

1324
01:08:11,653 --> 01:08:15,013
Speaker 3: not so thanks so much, big number. Paul Stenhouse is

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Speaker 3: our texpert in the money by the sounds of his

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Speaker 3: Shear portfolio as well seventeen to eleven on News Talks

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Speaker 3: at be.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend then with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News.

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Speaker 2: Talks at B.

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Speaker 3: At that time of year where many of us are

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Speaker 3: feeling a little bit a too e, we're experiencing sneezing,

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01:08:39,293 --> 01:08:42,093
Speaker 3: congestion all sorts, and sometimes it can be a little

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Speaker 3: bit unclear as to whether or not you've got a cold,

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Speaker 3: or whether or not you've got hay fever. So we

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Speaker 3: thought we would catch up with our resident doctor, Brian Betty,

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Speaker 3: who's here with the details this morning. Killder Brian oh

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Speaker 3: cire Jack, So what's the difference? I know that seems

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01:08:55,573 --> 01:08:58,653
Speaker 3: potentially obvious, but sometimes when you're experiencing these things, it

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01:08:58,693 --> 01:09:01,093
Speaker 3: actually isn't. What's the difference between a common cold?

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Speaker 22: It can be very difficult to tell sometimes, and especially

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01:09:04,613 --> 01:09:06,533
Speaker 22: this time of the year when we've had actually eight

1343
01:09:06,773 --> 01:09:09,653
Speaker 22: viral season with colds and flues. That's run right into

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01:09:09,733 --> 01:09:12,133
Speaker 22: spring and also that time when we start to get

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01:09:12,173 --> 01:09:14,173
Speaker 22: the pollens in the air that causes the hay fever.

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01:09:14,253 --> 01:09:16,973
Speaker 22: So yeah, it can be different. Different are difficult to

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01:09:17,493 --> 01:09:20,613
Speaker 22: work out. So basically the difference is hay fever is

1348
01:09:20,653 --> 01:09:23,733
Speaker 22: an allergic reaction, and so the allergy to pollen or

1349
01:09:23,813 --> 01:09:25,733
Speaker 22: dust in the air or pets. So when it gets

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01:09:25,733 --> 01:09:28,293
Speaker 22: windy and the flowers are out pollinating, we tend to

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01:09:28,293 --> 01:09:31,773
Speaker 22: get it the common colds and infection and it's caused

1352
01:09:31,773 --> 01:09:34,573
Speaker 22: by a virus, and the virus is off is rhinovirus,

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01:09:34,613 --> 01:09:37,773
Speaker 22: so it's very very different in terms of what it does. Now,

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01:09:37,813 --> 01:09:40,613
Speaker 22: the key difference is hay fever tends to come on suddenly,

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01:09:41,053 --> 01:09:43,733
Speaker 22: so it can last for a day, for days or weeks,

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01:09:43,813 --> 01:09:48,893
Speaker 22: and it's often accompanied with frequent sneezing, rare dichy, watery eyes,

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01:09:49,093 --> 01:09:50,453
Speaker 22: and itchy throat and nose.

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01:09:51,053 --> 01:09:54,733
Speaker 2: But there's no temperature. Now, the common cold comes on.

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01:09:54,813 --> 01:09:58,213
Speaker 22: Gradually over a few days, usually lasts for five to

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01:09:58,213 --> 01:10:02,493
Speaker 22: ten days, thick yellow nasal discharge, mild eyed irritation, and

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Speaker 22: less sneezing, and often you do have a mild temperature

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01:10:05,533 --> 01:10:07,093
Speaker 22: and can it gets some muscle, so there are some

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01:10:07,213 --> 01:10:09,693
Speaker 22: very very distinct differences between the two.

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Speaker 3: And should how should you tell the difference.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Look, I think there's three critical things that the

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Speaker 22: time it takes to come on, when it comes on,

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Speaker 22: and it Now, look, if you have itchy eyes and nose,

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01:10:23,453 --> 01:10:27,293
Speaker 22: think hay fever. Itch is the classic classic symptom. Now,

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01:10:27,293 --> 01:10:32,213
Speaker 22: if you feel slightly achy and unwell, think common cold. Now,

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01:10:32,333 --> 01:10:35,533
Speaker 22: hay fever does tend to occur more during spring, not

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Speaker 22: all the time, but during spring and certain times of

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Speaker 22: the year, especially spring, so it tends to be windy.

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Speaker 22: We've got the pollen in the year, and you know,

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Speaker 22: people out like mooweing lawns and they notice they get

1375
01:10:44,333 --> 01:10:48,053
Speaker 22: all these symptoms coming on. Often with the common cold. Again,

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01:10:48,053 --> 01:10:51,453
Speaker 22: you've been in contact with someone who's had a cold,

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01:10:51,653 --> 01:10:54,093
Speaker 22: you suddenly start to get the symptoms. So again there's

1378
01:10:54,093 --> 01:10:56,373
Speaker 22: another difference where the cold is spread from person to

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01:10:56,373 --> 01:11:00,013
Speaker 22: person that doesn't happen with hay fever. So again there's

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Speaker 22: some very very distinct differences that start to occur.

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Speaker 3: And how do you treat them?

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01:11:04,533 --> 01:11:07,053
Speaker 22: Yeah, very very differently. So it is important to know

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01:11:07,133 --> 01:11:09,653
Speaker 22: the difference. So for hay favorite, it's important to try

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01:11:09,693 --> 01:11:12,133
Speaker 22: and avoid the irritants. So again, if it's a windy

1385
01:11:12,213 --> 01:11:14,493
Speaker 22: day and you know that pollen's going to trigger the symptoms,

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01:11:14,973 --> 01:11:17,693
Speaker 22: keep your windows shut indoors on those windy days to

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Speaker 22: try and keep the pollen out of the house. And

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Speaker 22: if you've been outside my o in the lawns, come

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Speaker 22: inside and just change your clothes and shower and get

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Speaker 22: rid of all that that pollen stuff that maybe on

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Speaker 22: you causing the problems. We use something called antihistamines, which

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Speaker 22: are a tablet to stop the itch and sneezing, often

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Speaker 22: some eye drops and off some nasal drops just to

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Speaker 22: stop the nasal congestion. Now, with the common cold, antibiotics

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Speaker 22: do not help, and this is really really important. It's

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Speaker 22: a virus, so there's no benefit to antibiotics. Stay at

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Speaker 22: home because you don't want to spread it, because that's

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01:11:49,813 --> 01:11:53,293
Speaker 22: what you do with coldsh you know, your parasminol, your

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01:11:53,333 --> 01:11:56,533
Speaker 22: broof and to keep your temperature down and get rid

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01:11:56,573 --> 01:11:59,013
Speaker 22: of those muscle achs. Often a bit of a nasal

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01:11:59,053 --> 01:12:03,493
Speaker 22: spray for decongest throat lozenges and stay well hydrated really

1402
01:12:03,493 --> 01:12:07,293
Speaker 22: really important and usually improves over a week better by itself.

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01:12:07,333 --> 01:12:09,293
Speaker 22: So but staying at home is really quite important in

1404
01:12:09,293 --> 01:12:09,973
Speaker 22: that situation.

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01:12:10,373 --> 01:12:14,133
Speaker 3: Of course, pseudo Epho Dream is now available in pharmacies.

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01:12:14,373 --> 01:12:16,453
Speaker 3: I have had it, and look, I know that there's

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01:12:16,493 --> 01:12:19,133
Speaker 3: a bit of controversy with it. It my experience with it

1408
01:12:19,213 --> 01:12:21,813
Speaker 3: was that it worked and that it gave me a

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01:12:21,853 --> 01:12:24,493
Speaker 3: short term relief, like quite big time, to be honest,

1410
01:12:24,533 --> 01:12:26,293
Speaker 3: Like it was like I was like, wow, this is

1411
01:12:26,333 --> 01:12:29,173
Speaker 3: actually this is doing it and it made me a

1412
01:12:29,173 --> 01:12:31,133
Speaker 3: little bit jittery, like I could see how they make

1413
01:12:31,133 --> 01:12:33,133
Speaker 3: me fam out of it, you know. I was like, oh,

1414
01:12:33,333 --> 01:12:35,893
Speaker 3: I can see. It's like not the craziest link between

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01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:39,413
Speaker 3: these two things. So yeah, but for a cold it did. Like,

1416
01:12:39,533 --> 01:12:41,973
Speaker 3: my experience was that it did actually help, although you've

1417
01:12:41,973 --> 01:12:44,253
Speaker 3: obviously got to be really careful and you know, following

1418
01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:45,893
Speaker 3: the instructions of the chemists and that kind of thing, and.

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01:12:46,773 --> 01:12:49,653
Speaker 22: Yeah, look that's really important. Yeah, the city everysent's got

1420
01:12:49,653 --> 01:12:50,413
Speaker 22: two sides to it.

1421
01:12:50,493 --> 01:12:51,253
Speaker 3: Yes, it works.

1422
01:12:51,293 --> 01:12:54,733
Speaker 22: It is actually really effective for decongestions and making you

1423
01:12:54,773 --> 01:12:57,173
Speaker 22: feel better, but there's this other side to it where

1424
01:12:57,173 --> 01:12:59,693
Speaker 22: you can feel quite energized and a whole lot of things.

1425
01:13:00,133 --> 01:13:02,213
Speaker 22: So yeah, you need to talk to your fancist about

1426
01:13:02,253 --> 01:13:04,973
Speaker 22: them and how you use it, and yeah, so it

1427
01:13:05,013 --> 01:13:06,693
Speaker 22: is good to use, but you've got to use it

1428
01:13:06,773 --> 01:13:07,613
Speaker 22: very carefully.

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01:13:07,613 --> 01:13:08,013
Speaker 5: I suppose.

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01:13:08,093 --> 01:13:08,453
Speaker 2: Yes.

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01:13:08,853 --> 01:13:11,093
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much, really appreciate it. Doctor Ryan

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Speaker 3: VIDI with us this morning. It's team to a even.

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Speaker 3: We're in the garden, next.

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01:13:16,373 --> 01:13:20,173
Speaker 1: Gardling but still shops battery system kits. Get a second battery,

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01:13:20,253 --> 01:13:20,973
Speaker 1: half fries.

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Speaker 3: Rude climb past as our men in the garden Kyota.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, how are you. I'm very well, yeah,

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01:13:28,853 --> 01:13:30,693
Speaker 3: very well, thank you. It's the time of year where

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01:13:31,653 --> 01:13:33,653
Speaker 3: if you're looking for a little bit of color in

1440
01:13:33,693 --> 01:13:37,373
Speaker 3: the garden, you've got a couple of little options on

1441
01:13:37,453 --> 01:13:39,573
Speaker 3: the native front that could add a bit of pop.

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01:13:40,693 --> 01:13:43,213
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I'm looking at the moment the Princeship

1443
01:13:43,293 --> 01:13:47,133
Speaker 5: and the tree in front of me. It's the old

1444
01:13:47,213 --> 01:13:51,173
Speaker 5: cherry tree that exactly finished almost. It's flowery and people

1445
01:13:51,213 --> 01:13:53,653
Speaker 5: love these things. But I thought, you know what, we've

1446
01:13:53,653 --> 01:13:58,293
Speaker 5: got so many good New Zealand endemic trees. I love

1447
01:13:58,333 --> 01:14:02,133
Speaker 5: that work endemic. It only occurs in New Zealand. Number one,

1448
01:14:02,733 --> 01:14:04,653
Speaker 5: I've got a it's not a real tree, it's a

1449
01:14:04,693 --> 01:14:06,333
Speaker 5: shrub in this case, and it could be a client

1450
01:14:06,933 --> 01:14:13,573
Speaker 5: metroceedros Carminia. It's actually closely related to the Puruta Kawa okay,

1451
01:14:13,693 --> 01:14:19,453
Speaker 5: and it is unbelievably beautifully red at this time, gorgeous.

1452
01:14:19,853 --> 01:14:21,853
Speaker 5: I think you know, if you really want something that

1453
01:14:22,053 --> 01:14:24,373
Speaker 5: is standing out of this town of the year, yeah,

1454
01:14:24,453 --> 01:14:28,893
Speaker 5: get yourself a Metrocedro's Carminia. It's called the Crimson rata,

1455
01:14:29,093 --> 01:14:32,773
Speaker 5: so it's actually like a rata tree, right, But it

1456
01:14:32,813 --> 01:14:36,013
Speaker 5: doesn't always climb up, and it depends on whether you

1457
01:14:36,053 --> 01:14:38,333
Speaker 5: take it from a cutting or whether you take it

1458
01:14:38,373 --> 01:14:40,373
Speaker 5: from seeds. And if you take it from cutting it

1459
01:14:40,413 --> 01:14:43,613
Speaker 5: becomes a shrub. Where you take it from seeds, it

1460
01:14:43,733 --> 01:14:44,813
Speaker 5: climbs up your house.

1461
01:14:45,413 --> 01:14:50,693
Speaker 3: I was there, Yeah, very good, okay, Yeah.

1462
01:14:49,253 --> 01:14:53,733
Speaker 5: Number two Cofi. Everybody knows cobai a. Yep, you got

1463
01:14:53,733 --> 01:14:55,293
Speaker 5: one of you get one at home as well.

1464
01:14:55,413 --> 01:14:57,613
Speaker 3: I wish we did, we don't. I mean, I just

1465
01:14:57,693 --> 01:15:00,053
Speaker 3: know that's why I've got the still got the bird

1466
01:15:00,053 --> 01:15:01,813
Speaker 3: feeders out, just to bring in the two in the

1467
01:15:02,013 --> 01:15:05,453
Speaker 3: and the Toho and things, because I mean, the cor

1468
01:15:05,493 --> 01:15:07,053
Speaker 3: fire is the snaps favorite.

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01:15:08,053 --> 01:15:12,613
Speaker 5: It is absolutely and you got it and that's it ERTs.

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01:15:12,653 --> 01:15:14,533
Speaker 5: It does all the right stuff. You got it in

1471
01:15:14,613 --> 01:15:16,933
Speaker 5: one that's exactly what it's what. It's child be about.

1472
01:15:17,533 --> 01:15:19,333
Speaker 5: There's a third one I've got here, and it's rulin

1473
01:15:19,413 --> 01:15:23,333
Speaker 5: Bekia estoni. That's a real endemic too. Ruland Beckier is

1474
01:15:23,333 --> 01:15:25,853
Speaker 5: one of those genera if you like it only really

1475
01:15:25,893 --> 01:15:29,453
Speaker 5: gets gets going in New Zealand native plant. Of course,

1476
01:15:29,853 --> 01:15:32,973
Speaker 5: it is quite common around Katerretti Spit, you know where

1477
01:15:33,013 --> 01:15:36,853
Speaker 5: it is of course in Canterbury, yep. And it has

1478
01:15:36,933 --> 01:15:42,933
Speaker 5: this wonderful zig zagging system of branches which which looks

1479
01:15:43,293 --> 01:15:47,653
Speaker 5: quite weird, but it actually makes the bush really really dense.

1480
01:15:48,133 --> 01:15:50,173
Speaker 5: And then in the winter time it's kind of this

1481
01:15:50,413 --> 01:15:54,133
Speaker 5: really strange dark brownie orange color as well, so it

1482
01:15:54,253 --> 01:15:57,853
Speaker 5: changes its color. It's just amazing. Rule becky ass and

1483
01:15:57,973 --> 01:16:00,213
Speaker 5: I always goot plant arion right right.

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01:16:00,293 --> 01:16:07,413
Speaker 3: New Zealand nice, Okaykia, have you heard of that? I'm

1485
01:16:07,453 --> 01:16:07,933
Speaker 3: not sure?

1486
01:16:08,053 --> 01:16:08,573
Speaker 5: Yellow one.

1487
01:16:08,773 --> 01:16:11,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I recognize the photograph. I've

1488
01:16:11,893 --> 01:16:13,493
Speaker 3: looked it up and I've got the photograph here you've

1489
01:16:13,533 --> 01:16:15,213
Speaker 3: sent through, so I think I recognize it from that,

1490
01:16:15,293 --> 01:16:16,373
Speaker 3: but I haven't heard of it.

1491
01:16:17,333 --> 01:16:20,893
Speaker 5: Okay. It's also endemic also if you like the New

1492
01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:23,933
Speaker 5: Zealand plant, only in New Zealand, but here comes the thing.

1493
01:16:23,973 --> 01:16:26,693
Speaker 5: As an entomologist, this is what I do with this

1494
01:16:26,853 --> 01:16:29,213
Speaker 5: O the year. I go to the Karakia and there

1495
01:16:29,253 --> 01:16:34,533
Speaker 5: are hundreds of native bees swarming around these flowers. That

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Speaker 5: yellow is tracking them like anything, and those little bees,

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01:16:38,653 --> 01:16:42,093
Speaker 5: those tiny little native bees are sucking their nectar and

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01:16:42,213 --> 01:16:44,493
Speaker 5: taking it back to the to their own little home

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Speaker 5: for their offspring. It's just it just gives you this

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01:16:48,213 --> 01:16:49,333
Speaker 5: wonderful feeling.

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01:16:49,053 --> 01:16:51,293
Speaker 4: Of yeah, yeah.

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01:16:52,613 --> 01:16:55,093
Speaker 5: And then finally hot Pito, which is of course a

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01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:59,093
Speaker 5: peppetrine yep through the wintery Colorado and it tests these

1504
01:16:59,133 --> 01:17:02,293
Speaker 5: amazing colors of leaves with red and yellow and orange

1505
01:17:02,293 --> 01:17:04,693
Speaker 5: and also of color. If you really want to see

1506
01:17:04,693 --> 01:17:07,173
Speaker 5: the best places, as far as I'm come to, where

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01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:11,253
Speaker 5: you can see this, you go to the kitlings. That's

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01:17:11,373 --> 01:17:13,133
Speaker 5: where you fall in love with.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic Hey, thank you. We'll make sure that we put

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Speaker 3: them up on the website, and we'll put the photos

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01:17:19,253 --> 01:17:21,653
Speaker 3: up as well, so everyone can have a bit of

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01:17:21,693 --> 01:17:23,573
Speaker 3: a look and imagine what it might look at their place. Hey,

1513
01:17:23,733 --> 01:17:25,773
Speaker 3: look like at their place. Thank you very much, sir.

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01:17:26,173 --> 01:17:28,933
Speaker 3: Go Well, that is rude climb passed in the garden

1515
01:17:28,973 --> 01:17:32,053
Speaker 3: for us this Saturday morning together after eleven o'clock on

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01:17:32,093 --> 01:17:35,653
Speaker 3: Newstalks dB our travel correspondents taking a look at Deli.

1517
01:17:35,773 --> 01:17:39,853
Speaker 3: Deli is exploding, they reckon in a few years actually,

1518
01:17:39,893 --> 01:17:42,933
Speaker 3: it's going to become the most populous city in the world.

1519
01:17:43,093 --> 01:17:45,533
Speaker 3: He's got some real delights in both old Deli and

1520
01:17:45,653 --> 01:17:48,293
Speaker 3: New Deli that he's going to share with us. As

1521
01:17:48,293 --> 01:17:52,493
Speaker 3: well as that. Our sustainability commentator on her experience trying

1522
01:17:52,573 --> 01:17:56,093
Speaker 3: not to use disposable nappies with her newborn baby. And

1523
01:17:56,133 --> 01:17:58,373
Speaker 3: we've got new music from Florence in the machine. It's

1524
01:17:58,373 --> 01:18:01,013
Speaker 3: almost eleven o'clock. I'm Jack Tam. It's Saturday morning and

1525
01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:02,493
Speaker 3: this is news Doorg zb.

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01:18:06,613 --> 01:18:10,013
Speaker 1: Morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through the

1527
01:18:10,053 --> 01:18:11,613
Speaker 1: weekend us talks a'd.

1528
01:18:11,493 --> 01:18:38,253
Speaker 3: Be you know, if you're just turning on the radio

1529
01:18:38,333 --> 01:18:40,653
Speaker 3: this morning, we've missed you, but we had delighted you.

1530
01:18:40,813 --> 01:18:42,733
Speaker 3: Here Jack Tames my name, I'm with you through the

1531
01:18:42,813 --> 01:18:45,373
Speaker 3: midday today. We started the show this morning with a

1532
01:18:45,413 --> 01:18:48,093
Speaker 3: little bit of a lament. So I walked down on

1533
01:18:48,133 --> 01:18:52,573
Speaker 3: my front door, brighton Cherry this morning to discover three

1534
01:18:52,893 --> 01:18:55,693
Speaker 3: birds had been ripped up and torn apart and left

1535
01:18:55,733 --> 01:18:57,933
Speaker 3: on my front patio by one of the neighborhood cats.

1536
01:18:57,973 --> 01:18:59,493
Speaker 3: I don't know whose cat it was. Don't know what

1537
01:18:59,653 --> 01:19:02,493
Speaker 3: cat did it, but I was the one cleaning it up,

1538
01:19:02,533 --> 01:19:05,253
Speaker 3: and I this is the one thing I really dislike

1539
01:19:05,293 --> 01:19:08,733
Speaker 3: about cats. See, cats have so many great qualities. They

1540
01:19:08,733 --> 01:19:11,253
Speaker 3: can be such great companions, they can be such great pets.

1541
01:19:11,253 --> 01:19:14,853
Speaker 3: But I really really hate that they kill birds, and

1542
01:19:14,853 --> 01:19:17,933
Speaker 3: that they kill native birds. And it turns out I'm

1543
01:19:17,973 --> 01:19:19,973
Speaker 3: not the only one who thinks that if you are

1544
01:19:20,013 --> 01:19:22,293
Speaker 3: a cat owner and you're letting your cat roam at

1545
01:19:22,413 --> 01:19:24,533
Speaker 3: night and it doesn't have a bell or anything like that,

1546
01:19:24,573 --> 01:19:29,133
Speaker 3: you are irresponsible and you are selfish. Jack says Marie

1547
01:19:29,133 --> 01:19:32,133
Speaker 3: this morning. Our cats should be kept in their own property.

1548
01:19:32,173 --> 01:19:34,933
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. Another person on the text jack,

1549
01:19:35,613 --> 01:19:39,453
Speaker 3: cats should all have bells on their collars. As far

1550
01:19:39,493 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, I once cared for someone's cat for

1551
01:19:42,333 --> 01:19:45,893
Speaker 3: a few days, and during my time caring for them,

1552
01:19:45,893 --> 01:19:49,293
Speaker 3: they brought home beautiful ducklings and birds from a golf course.

1553
01:19:49,373 --> 01:19:52,533
Speaker 3: I was horrified when the owner told me they still

1554
01:19:52,573 --> 01:19:54,813
Speaker 3: wouldn't put a bell on their cat's collar. I never

1555
01:19:54,853 --> 01:19:56,853
Speaker 3: cared for the cat again. As far as I'm concerned,

1556
01:19:56,893 --> 01:20:00,093
Speaker 3: it was just so irresponsible. I think this is the

1557
01:20:00,133 --> 01:20:02,813
Speaker 3: thing I mean We all accept that people enjoy having

1558
01:20:02,813 --> 01:20:05,213
Speaker 3: pets and enjoy having companions, and that they do so

1559
01:20:05,253 --> 01:20:09,893
Speaker 3: many great things, but it is your responsibility as a

1560
01:20:09,933 --> 01:20:13,053
Speaker 3: cat owner, in my view, to make sure that your

1561
01:20:13,093 --> 01:20:19,053
Speaker 3: cat isn't damaging the local biodiversity and environment. You have

1562
01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:21,653
Speaker 3: to keep your cat inside and shouldn't be sending your

1563
01:20:21,653 --> 01:20:24,013
Speaker 3: cat out without a bell on its collar at the

1564
01:20:24,133 --> 01:20:26,533
Speaker 3: very least in my view. So thank you for all

1565
01:20:26,533 --> 01:20:28,813
Speaker 3: of your messages. We've had so many over the last

1566
01:20:28,813 --> 01:20:30,453
Speaker 3: couple of hours on that, and I'll try and get

1567
01:20:30,493 --> 01:20:32,173
Speaker 3: to a few more before mid day today. Ninety two

1568
01:20:32,253 --> 01:20:34,213
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number if you want to

1569
01:20:34,253 --> 01:20:37,373
Speaker 3: send me a message. Right now is nine minutes past eleven.

1570
01:20:38,093 --> 01:20:40,213
Speaker 3: Jack Dave our perform mid day. We've got new music

1571
01:20:40,213 --> 01:20:43,293
Speaker 3: from Florence on the Machine. I love Florence. Florence Welch

1572
01:20:43,373 --> 01:20:46,573
Speaker 3: the yes singer from Florence on the Machine. She is incredible.

1573
01:20:46,653 --> 01:20:50,613
Speaker 3: Just got one of those super powerful, distinctive voices that

1574
01:20:50,733 --> 01:20:52,373
Speaker 3: the moment you hear it, you go ah, yeah, that's

1575
01:20:52,373 --> 01:20:54,493
Speaker 3: Florence on the Machine. So we're going to play you

1576
01:20:54,573 --> 01:20:57,413
Speaker 3: some of her new album, which is called Everybody Scream.

1577
01:20:57,733 --> 01:21:00,253
Speaker 3: Before midday. There's a new book from Michael Conley that

1578
01:21:00,293 --> 01:21:03,173
Speaker 3: I will tell you about very shortly as well. Right now, though,

1579
01:21:03,213 --> 01:21:06,253
Speaker 3: it's time to catch up with our sustainability expert. Kate

1580
01:21:06,453 --> 01:21:10,293
Speaker 3: Hall is with us this morning, Gilda and Jack. So

1581
01:21:10,493 --> 01:21:13,373
Speaker 3: your daughter is four and a half months old. I

1582
01:21:13,413 --> 01:21:15,533
Speaker 3: feel like we are far enough through this journey, not

1583
01:21:15,573 --> 01:21:17,573
Speaker 3: that you don't have a wee way to go still

1584
01:21:18,293 --> 01:21:22,613
Speaker 3: to check in and see how your plan around nappies

1585
01:21:23,133 --> 01:21:26,853
Speaker 3: and communication with your daughter is working out, because it's

1586
01:21:26,893 --> 01:21:30,573
Speaker 3: fair to say that you took on a pretty brave stance.

1587
01:21:31,373 --> 01:21:36,293
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, I mean I had high hopes and I

1588
01:21:36,373 --> 01:21:39,613
Speaker 15: was prepared. I have some disposal nappies and I was like,

1589
01:21:39,653 --> 01:21:42,573
Speaker 15: I'll use these if I need to if it all

1590
01:21:42,613 --> 01:21:46,493
Speaker 15: gets too much. But I have done nappies since day one,

1591
01:21:47,333 --> 01:21:51,293
Speaker 15: along with elimination communication. But yeah, I guess because I

1592
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:53,173
Speaker 15: was counting it up the other day and I have

1593
01:21:53,613 --> 01:21:57,373
Speaker 15: saved probably over a thousand now and it's only in

1594
01:21:57,413 --> 01:21:58,253
Speaker 15: four and a half months.

1595
01:21:58,333 --> 01:22:02,133
Speaker 3: Oh my god, disposal nap is from n okay okay,

1596
01:22:02,213 --> 01:22:04,253
Speaker 3: So very quickly, before we get onto the nappies, how

1597
01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:05,973
Speaker 3: is the elimination communication going.

1598
01:22:06,573 --> 01:22:09,533
Speaker 15: It's actually I'm on like currently a winning streak.

1599
01:22:11,053 --> 01:22:12,693
Speaker 3: So this is just a remind you of one. This

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01:22:12,773 --> 01:22:15,933
Speaker 3: is when you you, you and your daughter basically communicate

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01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:17,693
Speaker 3: and you hold her over the toilet, right.

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01:22:17,733 --> 01:22:20,413
Speaker 15: Yes, yep, So since day one, I've just offered the

1603
01:22:20,453 --> 01:22:23,453
Speaker 15: potty to her, so like, yeah, a little potty or

1604
01:22:23,453 --> 01:22:27,293
Speaker 15: over a toilet, or just to catch if you're catching

1605
01:22:27,293 --> 01:22:28,733
Speaker 15: it rather than catching it in a nappy.

1606
01:22:28,933 --> 01:22:30,893
Speaker 3: Yeah right, So yeah, My.

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01:22:30,893 --> 01:22:33,693
Speaker 15: Winning streak at the moment is I've gone thirteen days

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01:22:33,733 --> 01:22:38,213
Speaker 15: now without having to change a poo nappy. So that

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01:22:38,293 --> 01:22:42,133
Speaker 15: means every time I've heard her make her little poos sounds,

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01:22:42,173 --> 01:22:44,733
Speaker 15: or watch her face, or I genuinely just offer it

1611
01:22:44,773 --> 01:22:47,173
Speaker 15: to her at normal times that people would want to

1612
01:22:47,333 --> 01:22:48,853
Speaker 15: go to the toilet too, like when you first wake

1613
01:22:48,973 --> 01:22:51,653
Speaker 15: up or after a meal, or if I hear her

1614
01:22:51,693 --> 01:22:54,933
Speaker 15: honey rumble. Yeah, so I have not I have to

1615
01:22:56,053 --> 01:22:57,453
Speaker 15: just don't deal with as much poo.

1616
01:22:58,053 --> 01:23:01,533
Speaker 3: That's incredible. Thirteen days and four and a half months.

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01:23:01,533 --> 01:23:05,133
Speaker 3: Good for you, k. Honestly, there's just I really like you.

1618
01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:05,853
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

1619
01:23:06,093 --> 01:23:08,213
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's blown me away as well, like there's no

1620
01:23:09,493 --> 01:23:11,533
Speaker 15: I don't know. I just sounded too good to be true,

1621
01:23:11,573 --> 01:23:13,853
Speaker 15: but also sounded very natural to me when I heard

1622
01:23:13,893 --> 01:23:14,453
Speaker 15: about it.

1623
01:23:14,653 --> 01:23:17,293
Speaker 3: So well's how they I mean, it's how everyone else

1624
01:23:17,293 --> 01:23:21,053
Speaker 3: survived right before before we had reusable nappies. Yeah, yeah,

1625
01:23:21,293 --> 01:23:24,613
Speaker 3: and I'm sure there have been a few, you know, incidents,

1626
01:23:24,773 --> 01:23:26,253
Speaker 3: but I.

1627
01:23:26,253 --> 01:23:29,533
Speaker 15: Mean, and there's cultures that still exist, Like it's not

1628
01:23:29,573 --> 01:23:32,813
Speaker 15: really we call it elimination communication, but it's not. That's

1629
01:23:32,893 --> 01:23:34,493
Speaker 15: kind of a fancy term that we called it in

1630
01:23:34,533 --> 01:23:38,493
Speaker 15: this you know, but there's cultures who you can't actually

1631
01:23:38,653 --> 01:23:40,933
Speaker 15: buy a pack of nappies there because that's just not

1632
01:23:40,973 --> 01:23:43,573
Speaker 15: what they do. And the kids have like crotchless pants

1633
01:23:43,573 --> 01:23:46,133
Speaker 15: and different things like that. Like it's it's actually the

1634
01:23:46,573 --> 01:23:50,853
Speaker 15: elimination communication as people's you know, standard way of doing things.

1635
01:23:50,853 --> 01:23:54,133
Speaker 3: And when you when you've nailed the elimination communication, as

1636
01:23:54,133 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 3: you seem to have done, it means that reusable nappies

1637
01:23:58,613 --> 01:24:01,293
Speaker 3: are an even better option, right, So talk us through

1638
01:24:01,333 --> 01:24:02,933
Speaker 3: your reusable nappy journey.

1639
01:24:03,533 --> 01:24:06,653
Speaker 15: Yeah, so they it appairs really well together. Reason is

1640
01:24:06,653 --> 01:24:09,653
Speaker 15: an elimination communication because you're not having to wash as

1641
01:24:09,693 --> 01:24:15,053
Speaker 15: many So I yeah, I all of my nappies, most

1642
01:24:15,053 --> 01:24:17,533
Speaker 15: of them are sick in hands. There's a great market

1643
01:24:17,573 --> 01:24:21,773
Speaker 15: there for a secondhand reasonable nappies, and I guess mainly

1644
01:24:21,813 --> 01:24:24,533
Speaker 15: it's about how to wash them and being familiar with them.

1645
01:24:24,653 --> 01:24:28,253
Speaker 15: So I started learning about reasonable nappis like months before

1646
01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:31,533
Speaker 15: Orchard was born, and just like putting them on soft

1647
01:24:31,573 --> 01:24:34,573
Speaker 15: toysn't you know, practicing how to use them because some

1648
01:24:34,613 --> 01:24:36,253
Speaker 15: of them do just feel like you use in a

1649
01:24:36,293 --> 01:24:39,013
Speaker 15: disposal nappy. That's about crow, which is really cool. I'd

1650
01:24:39,053 --> 01:24:42,933
Speaker 15: recommend that to people who are first starting out because

1651
01:24:43,253 --> 01:24:45,093
Speaker 15: it's you know, you don't have to deal with all

1652
01:24:45,093 --> 01:24:47,653
Speaker 15: the little domes and everything, which could be quite overwhelming.

1653
01:24:48,813 --> 01:24:52,573
Speaker 15: But yeah, we use I know, six to eight resal

1654
01:24:52,653 --> 01:24:55,893
Speaker 15: nappies in a day, depends on how good I've been

1655
01:24:55,973 --> 01:24:58,933
Speaker 15: with catching her wheeze. I mean poos now seem to

1656
01:24:58,933 --> 01:25:02,773
Speaker 15: be dealt with. But yeah, how to wash them. I'll

1657
01:25:02,773 --> 01:25:05,053
Speaker 15: take you through my washing routine because I mean that's

1658
01:25:05,053 --> 01:25:08,693
Speaker 15: a really big one that freaks people out and feel

1659
01:25:08,693 --> 01:25:12,093
Speaker 15: overwhelming for when you know that is the extra step.

1660
01:25:12,173 --> 01:25:14,573
Speaker 15: It is more work, Like I think some people go, oh,

1661
01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:17,853
Speaker 15: it's so easy to just do it, but it's more work.

1662
01:25:19,333 --> 01:25:20,413
Speaker 15: You know, at the end of the day, I have

1663
01:25:20,613 --> 01:25:23,733
Speaker 15: had moments of oh my gosh, okay, so I have

1664
01:25:23,813 --> 01:25:29,693
Speaker 15: to stuff most of minor pockets stuff an insert into

1665
01:25:29,733 --> 01:25:32,773
Speaker 15: a shell. And so that's something a task I have

1666
01:25:32,853 --> 01:25:36,413
Speaker 15: to do, you know, in the evenings or it does

1667
01:25:36,453 --> 01:25:39,133
Speaker 15: take my work, but honestly it means we've saved a

1668
01:25:39,133 --> 01:25:41,333
Speaker 15: lot of money so we don't have to buy disposal

1669
01:25:41,373 --> 01:25:44,213
Speaker 15: nappy and getting a whole lot second hand is great.

1670
01:25:45,053 --> 01:25:48,293
Speaker 15: But when terms of washing them, I put them through

1671
01:25:48,493 --> 01:25:51,253
Speaker 15: two cycles so they are very clean. It is very

1672
01:25:51,333 --> 01:25:54,293
Speaker 15: hygienic way of doing eppis I put them through a

1673
01:25:54,293 --> 01:25:58,333
Speaker 15: hot like sixty degree wash first and then I put

1674
01:25:58,373 --> 01:26:01,773
Speaker 15: them through a mainsh and because they're already washed, that

1675
01:26:01,853 --> 01:26:06,733
Speaker 15: mainsh can also contain like orchards, clothes and the bits

1676
01:26:06,733 --> 01:26:10,213
Speaker 15: and bobs and it's a fully degree wash and quite

1677
01:26:10,213 --> 01:26:12,893
Speaker 15: a high spin as well, so you really get like.

1678
01:26:13,333 --> 01:26:15,173
Speaker 3: So you are really getting in there, right.

1679
01:26:15,253 --> 01:26:17,733
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, you really got to get there, and they

1680
01:26:17,733 --> 01:26:22,973
Speaker 15: are there. I've taken that method of washing from Clean

1681
01:26:23,013 --> 01:26:26,173
Speaker 15: Class Nappies Guide, which you can find online. It's a

1682
01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:30,333
Speaker 15: really great like scientifically backed way of you know, cleaning

1683
01:26:30,413 --> 01:26:33,093
Speaker 15: nappies and dealing with nappies. I've got all sorts of tips,

1684
01:26:33,093 --> 01:26:33,773
Speaker 15: so that's really.

1685
01:26:33,613 --> 01:26:37,093
Speaker 3: Helpful, fantastic. How do you have any brands given you've

1686
01:26:37,093 --> 01:26:39,053
Speaker 3: done so much research. Any brands that you recommend.

1687
01:26:39,493 --> 01:26:43,133
Speaker 15: Yeah, I've tried about ten different brands. I'm going to

1688
01:26:43,173 --> 01:26:45,293
Speaker 15: make a blog on it soon, but you know, I

1689
01:26:45,333 --> 01:26:47,933
Speaker 15: say this, but I have I'm too busy changing the

1690
01:26:47,973 --> 01:26:51,253
Speaker 15: nappies to write a blog about it. Yes, my favorite

1691
01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:55,253
Speaker 15: brands as a clever we Fox, Sluffy Ducks and Kikola.

1692
01:26:55,733 --> 01:27:00,333
Speaker 15: So they're all good. Most of them small New Zealand

1693
01:27:00,413 --> 01:27:01,413
Speaker 15: owned businesses too.

1694
01:27:01,493 --> 01:27:06,933
Speaker 3: So yeah, the best sounds amazing. Well done. I mean,

1695
01:27:06,933 --> 01:27:08,453
Speaker 3: I know it's a lot of work, and I know

1696
01:27:08,533 --> 01:27:10,253
Speaker 3: that you know, there's probably been ups and downs, but

1697
01:27:10,333 --> 01:27:12,573
Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I think it's really amazing what you've

1698
01:27:12,573 --> 01:27:15,573
Speaker 3: been able to do. You guys, so long? May you

1699
01:27:15,653 --> 01:27:18,893
Speaker 3: continue that? What is it a thirteen day streak so far?

1700
01:27:19,573 --> 01:27:24,013
Speaker 3: I know, now we're all touching wood for you, you know,

1701
01:27:24,213 --> 01:27:27,453
Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but thank you so much.

1702
01:27:27,493 --> 01:27:29,653
Speaker 3: You can find Kate on social media, of course, just

1703
01:27:29,693 --> 01:27:32,573
Speaker 3: search ethically Kate. Her name will pop right up and

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01:27:32,613 --> 01:27:34,253
Speaker 3: we'll put those brands up on the news storks. You'd

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Speaker 3: be website as well.

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Speaker 2: Travel with Wendy WU tours where the world is yours

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Speaker 2: for now.

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Speaker 3: Our travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. He's here with us

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 16: Gelda, Good morning Jack.

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01:27:47,453 --> 01:27:50,813
Speaker 3: You know, I have absolutely loved the last few weeks

1712
01:27:51,133 --> 01:27:53,573
Speaker 3: as you've been taking us through your favorite parts of India.

1713
01:27:53,693 --> 01:27:56,373
Speaker 3: And I remember a couple of weeks ago you were

1714
01:27:56,413 --> 01:28:02,173
Speaker 3: discussing how Deli is absolutely surging on the economic front

1715
01:28:02,173 --> 01:28:03,853
Speaker 3: at the moment. So just how big is it?

1716
01:28:04,933 --> 01:28:07,573
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's really hard to get hit around it because

1717
01:28:07,613 --> 01:28:11,373
Speaker 16: the growth is so staggering. It's those middle class high

1718
01:28:11,453 --> 01:28:15,613
Speaker 16: rise apartments mushrooming everywhere. That is just set in my memory.

1719
01:28:15,653 --> 01:28:17,653
Speaker 16: But I think it was my guide with Wendy Woo

1720
01:28:17,653 --> 01:28:20,533
Speaker 16: Tours check Gresh who summed it up best for me.

1721
01:28:20,653 --> 01:28:23,973
Speaker 16: He said, Delhi is more than just a city, It's

1722
01:28:24,013 --> 01:28:32,533
Speaker 16: a megalopolis. The metropolitan population of Delhi is now thirty million. Wow,

1723
01:28:32,573 --> 01:28:35,693
Speaker 16: so it's on track to becoming the world's most popular

1724
01:28:35,813 --> 01:28:37,253
Speaker 16: city in about three years time.

1725
01:28:37,373 --> 01:28:39,013
Speaker 5: It is just enormous.

1726
01:28:39,093 --> 01:28:42,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's staggering. I remember driving in the city

1727
01:28:42,973 --> 01:28:46,893
Speaker 3: ones and driving for like two or you know, two

1728
01:28:46,893 --> 01:28:49,293
Speaker 3: and a half hours from the center of Deli out

1729
01:28:49,373 --> 01:28:51,933
Speaker 3: and still like still just being in a city like

1730
01:28:52,213 --> 01:28:55,093
Speaker 3: just totally you know, it wasn't like, oh we left

1731
01:28:55,093 --> 01:28:56,493
Speaker 3: at Delhi and then we were sort of in some

1732
01:28:56,533 --> 01:28:59,293
Speaker 3: outskirt towns. It wasn't like going from christ Roots today

1733
01:28:59,293 --> 01:29:01,493
Speaker 3: in the order or something like that. It was like, no, no, no,

1734
01:29:02,213 --> 01:29:04,853
Speaker 3: You're still in Deli, still very much in Delhi. And

1735
01:29:04,893 --> 01:29:10,053
Speaker 3: it's famous for its vast canopy of trees. Eh.

1736
01:29:10,213 --> 01:29:14,093
Speaker 16: I love this about New Delhi within Deli. Yes, So

1737
01:29:14,813 --> 01:29:18,893
Speaker 16: on one hand you've got all those forests of concrete

1738
01:29:18,893 --> 01:29:21,493
Speaker 16: and steel in the way of high rises, but then

1739
01:29:22,053 --> 01:29:26,173
Speaker 16: that verdant canopy that is New Deli's calling cards. So

1740
01:29:26,293 --> 01:29:29,973
Speaker 16: this is the more modern planned city within this city

1741
01:29:30,333 --> 01:29:33,293
Speaker 16: built by the British just over a century ago. And

1742
01:29:33,453 --> 01:29:38,693
Speaker 16: for all the pros and cons of British colonial influence,

1743
01:29:38,733 --> 01:29:41,493
Speaker 16: you'd have to say one of their great legacies was

1744
01:29:42,053 --> 01:29:47,973
Speaker 16: the meticulously planned green cover for New Deli. So fanning

1745
01:29:48,013 --> 01:29:51,173
Speaker 16: out from Connaught Place along all those long broad avenues,

1746
01:29:51,813 --> 01:29:55,933
Speaker 16: they just meticulously planted so many large specimen trees like

1747
01:29:56,053 --> 01:30:00,493
Speaker 16: banyons and mangoes and pilkens, because they knew it was

1748
01:30:00,493 --> 01:30:02,893
Speaker 16: a hot place and they thought this might you give

1749
01:30:02,973 --> 01:30:05,733
Speaker 16: people a bit of cover from that fierce Deli heat.

1750
01:30:05,853 --> 01:30:09,053
Speaker 16: My god, that was visionary when you think about it.

1751
01:30:09,133 --> 01:30:13,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you go to the monuments because there are

1752
01:30:14,093 --> 01:30:15,053
Speaker 3: quite a few big ones day.

1753
01:30:15,973 --> 01:30:18,733
Speaker 16: There are so many to tick off because the city

1754
01:30:18,853 --> 01:30:23,453
Speaker 16: is littered with just a trove of crumbling tombs and ruins,

1755
01:30:23,493 --> 01:30:26,293
Speaker 16: so many that most of them not even on the

1756
01:30:26,373 --> 01:30:29,573
Speaker 16: tourist map, and it can get tiring to do a

1757
01:30:29,573 --> 01:30:32,453
Speaker 16: bit of you know, monument ticking and Delhi. But if

1758
01:30:32,493 --> 01:30:35,053
Speaker 16: you're a first time into the city, I would suggest

1759
01:30:35,653 --> 01:30:38,093
Speaker 16: there are two you really need to see over an

1760
01:30:38,173 --> 01:30:42,893
Speaker 16: old Delhi. Two Mogul era masterpieces. The imposing Red Fort

1761
01:30:43,413 --> 01:30:46,493
Speaker 16: which was the Mogul seat of power for two hundred years,

1762
01:30:46,773 --> 01:30:51,333
Speaker 16: huge big slab and sandstone. And then Jamma Mashad, India's

1763
01:30:51,453 --> 01:30:56,933
Speaker 16: largest mosque. I absolutely loved this mosque, jack because it

1764
01:30:57,053 --> 01:31:02,253
Speaker 16: was commissioned by Jahanov taz Mahal Fan talk about six

1765
01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:05,733
Speaker 16: years courtesy of five thousand laborers to put up and

1766
01:31:06,453 --> 01:31:11,653
Speaker 16: poor Muslim people. It's really really sacred this mosque because

1767
01:31:12,093 --> 01:31:17,453
Speaker 16: within its hallowed walls lies the hair of Prophet Muhammad.

1768
01:31:17,533 --> 01:31:20,173
Speaker 16: So a very special site for as well.

1769
01:31:20,333 --> 01:31:22,613
Speaker 3: Oh amazing, Yeah, did you go to India Gate.

1770
01:31:23,653 --> 01:31:26,693
Speaker 16: Yes, So this is back in New Delhi, very close

1771
01:31:26,773 --> 01:31:31,893
Speaker 16: to that sprawling parliamentary conplext I've got, But yeah, Indie Gate,

1772
01:31:31,933 --> 01:31:35,333
Speaker 16: it's sort of like India's answer to the Arc de Triumph.

1773
01:31:35,413 --> 01:31:40,733
Speaker 16: It's such a monolithic beast of a thing, quite monstrous.

1774
01:31:40,973 --> 01:31:43,973
Speaker 16: I don't think you would say pretty. It's nozing, but

1775
01:31:44,053 --> 01:31:44,653
Speaker 16: not pretty.

1776
01:31:45,733 --> 01:31:46,733
Speaker 5: But yeah.

1777
01:31:46,773 --> 01:31:50,173
Speaker 16: Interestingly, it was designed by Edwin Luttians, who was the

1778
01:31:50,213 --> 01:31:54,013
Speaker 16: master planner for the British of New Delhi, and it

1779
01:31:54,093 --> 01:31:57,933
Speaker 16: is principally a war memorial and memory of the seventy

1780
01:31:58,133 --> 01:32:01,453
Speaker 16: thousand Indian soldiers who laid down their lives during World

1781
01:32:01,453 --> 01:32:03,653
Speaker 16: War One. But I did what the locals do, and

1782
01:32:03,693 --> 01:32:06,933
Speaker 16: you hid down there at the end of day because

1783
01:32:06,973 --> 01:32:11,293
Speaker 16: it's beautifully illuminated after sunset and at twilight that's been

1784
01:32:11,333 --> 01:32:14,893
Speaker 16: all the street food vendors and the ice cream they

1785
01:32:14,973 --> 01:32:17,333
Speaker 16: lie in the area. And you've got those spawling lush

1786
01:32:17,373 --> 01:32:19,613
Speaker 16: gardens around India Gate as well. So it's just a

1787
01:32:19,653 --> 01:32:22,013
Speaker 16: beautiful part of town to end the day.

1788
01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:25,973
Speaker 3: And how wonderful. What about market time and Old Deli?

1789
01:32:26,813 --> 01:32:29,653
Speaker 16: Oh my goodness, I reckon this is the runaway highlight

1790
01:32:29,893 --> 01:32:34,533
Speaker 16: of a visit to Deli. Plunging yourself and it is

1791
01:32:34,573 --> 01:32:39,453
Speaker 16: a plunge into the chaos. The cannibal, the cauldron of

1792
01:32:39,533 --> 01:32:44,333
Speaker 16: commerce in changiny Choc Deli's four hundred year old marketplace.

1793
01:32:44,733 --> 01:32:47,373
Speaker 16: And I love how the spaghetti like tangle of street

1794
01:32:47,413 --> 01:32:51,533
Speaker 16: wiring is still there, garlanding all of those pencil fin

1795
01:32:51,653 --> 01:32:56,053
Speaker 16: lanes choked with people and cows. It's got all the

1796
01:32:56,133 --> 01:33:01,933
Speaker 16: rough as guts function over form fields, singery dog. I

1797
01:33:02,013 --> 01:33:04,133
Speaker 16: thought of you, Jack, because I thought, I'm sure Jack

1798
01:33:04,333 --> 01:33:13,533
Speaker 16: likes Jillibbis I levy Jack, So yeah, a real street

1799
01:33:13,573 --> 01:33:19,013
Speaker 16: food hero. The jellybamara like a deep fried spiral shaped

1800
01:33:19,093 --> 01:33:23,133
Speaker 16: better dust and sugar syrup, a plate of those piping hot, crispy,

1801
01:33:23,173 --> 01:33:25,053
Speaker 16: sticky jilletties that will keep you.

1802
01:33:25,013 --> 01:33:25,533
Speaker 2: Going all day.

1803
01:33:25,613 --> 01:33:28,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, that keeps you going. The spice market is amazing

1804
01:33:28,133 --> 01:33:28,493
Speaker 3: as well.

1805
01:33:28,533 --> 01:33:32,653
Speaker 16: Ah, one of the best I think I've ever experienced

1806
01:33:32,693 --> 01:33:36,613
Speaker 16: in the world. And apparently it's Asia's largest wholesale spice market.

1807
01:33:37,013 --> 01:33:39,733
Speaker 16: And I think wholesale is the key word because the

1808
01:33:39,893 --> 01:33:44,813
Speaker 16: spices are so fresh, you know, it's an aromatic head

1809
01:33:44,813 --> 01:33:49,453
Speaker 16: blast as you walk past all these bulging sand castle

1810
01:33:49,693 --> 01:33:53,773
Speaker 16: like mounds of spice. And they sell over a hundred

1811
01:33:53,893 --> 01:33:58,053
Speaker 16: types of spice in their spice market and old Deli.

1812
01:33:58,573 --> 01:34:01,213
Speaker 16: I love how if your doored all too long. Outside

1813
01:34:01,213 --> 01:34:04,373
Speaker 16: the shop front, chances are a trader will come along

1814
01:34:04,413 --> 01:34:07,333
Speaker 16: with a huge sack of chilies or adam and pods

1815
01:34:07,373 --> 01:34:08,533
Speaker 16: and sort of bump.

1816
01:34:08,333 --> 01:34:10,733
Speaker 3: You out of Yeah yeah, yeah.

1817
01:34:10,773 --> 01:34:13,573
Speaker 16: But if you want to stock up on some spices

1818
01:34:13,613 --> 01:34:16,733
Speaker 16: and get them into New Zealand legally, a really good

1819
01:34:16,773 --> 01:34:18,893
Speaker 16: place to go to is this really old shop called

1820
01:34:18,973 --> 01:34:22,813
Speaker 16: Miha chand In Sons and they've been in business since

1821
01:34:23,493 --> 01:34:28,133
Speaker 16: Victoria ruled the roost. So they have got packaged spices

1822
01:34:28,973 --> 01:34:32,493
Speaker 16: pretty much one hundred spices by the way, They've got teased,

1823
01:34:32,493 --> 01:34:35,973
Speaker 16: I've got saffron, and one of their biggest sellers with

1824
01:34:36,093 --> 01:34:41,013
Speaker 16: international visitors is turmeric. There is no stopping that globe.

1825
01:34:41,013 --> 01:34:43,733
Speaker 16: We'll love here. So yeah, they've got them all packaged up.

1826
01:34:43,813 --> 01:34:45,893
Speaker 16: You'll get them through New Zealand customs as long as

1827
01:34:45,893 --> 01:34:46,533
Speaker 16: you declear them.

1828
01:34:46,573 --> 01:34:49,533
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh that's really good to know. That's fantastic. Where

1829
01:34:49,533 --> 01:34:51,373
Speaker 3: would you recommend staying in Delhi?

1830
01:34:52,053 --> 01:34:52,253
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1831
01:34:52,293 --> 01:34:56,373
Speaker 16: I would say go for New Delhi because of that canopy.

1832
01:34:56,693 --> 01:35:00,333
Speaker 16: It just feels, you know, like a lifesaver. But also

1833
01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:03,653
Speaker 16: make sure you bag a flash hotel with a pool

1834
01:35:03,733 --> 01:35:06,893
Speaker 16: because the pool really will be the life saber.

1835
01:35:06,893 --> 01:35:07,293
Speaker 4: Of all.

1836
01:35:07,933 --> 01:35:09,933
Speaker 16: I love how and you will recall this from your

1837
01:35:09,933 --> 01:35:14,453
Speaker 16: time at the Games, the Commonwealth Games five star hotels

1838
01:35:14,493 --> 01:35:18,053
Speaker 16: at three star prices in Deali. Yeah, So, for example,

1839
01:35:18,053 --> 01:35:21,173
Speaker 16: I stayed at Senula Eros, which was just heaven. They

1840
01:35:21,253 --> 01:35:24,373
Speaker 16: had the most enormous pool and one of my favorite

1841
01:35:24,613 --> 01:35:27,893
Speaker 16: time well moments in Delhi was just marinating myself on

1842
01:35:27,973 --> 01:35:31,333
Speaker 16: that pool, gazing up at the flocks of black kites

1843
01:35:31,373 --> 01:35:32,213
Speaker 16: circling above.

1844
01:35:32,413 --> 01:35:32,813
Speaker 23: Yeah.

1845
01:35:32,853 --> 01:35:38,013
Speaker 16: And then you Hadritus Meckx swinging between the poolside Benyon trees,

1846
01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:41,693
Speaker 16: much to the annoyance of the rose ringed parakeets that

1847
01:35:41,773 --> 01:35:44,493
Speaker 16: were trying to miss. Only in New Delhi.

1848
01:35:44,693 --> 01:35:48,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, ah, that sounds so good. I had. I mean,

1849
01:35:48,693 --> 01:35:51,093
Speaker 3: I had amazing experiences of my time in Delhi, and

1850
01:35:51,133 --> 01:35:53,453
Speaker 3: I was there. I was there both for the Games,

1851
01:35:53,493 --> 01:35:56,973
Speaker 3: but also I went in by myself afterwards all my

1852
01:35:56,973 --> 01:35:59,053
Speaker 3: colleagues had gone. I traveled around India, but and then

1853
01:35:59,093 --> 01:36:01,013
Speaker 3: spent a bit of time in Deli myself, and I

1854
01:36:01,053 --> 01:36:05,773
Speaker 3: do remember seeking a bit of refuge from the chaos

1855
01:36:05,813 --> 01:36:08,133
Speaker 3: of Delhi and sitting down in a small sort of

1856
01:36:08,173 --> 01:36:10,893
Speaker 3: green space on my on my first or second day

1857
01:36:11,013 --> 01:36:16,213
Speaker 3: staying an old Delli and I was surprised by a

1858
01:36:16,253 --> 01:36:20,333
Speaker 3: man who came up behind me, grabbed my head very gently,

1859
01:36:20,413 --> 01:36:25,133
Speaker 3: cradled it, and in a swift action, inserted a needle

1860
01:36:26,013 --> 01:36:30,453
Speaker 3: into my ear drum. And fortunately it wasn't a needle

1861
01:36:30,493 --> 01:36:32,693
Speaker 3: that pierced the ear drum. But he was one of

1862
01:36:32,693 --> 01:36:36,413
Speaker 3: these people who is a considers himself a professional ear cleaner,

1863
01:36:37,093 --> 01:36:41,813
Speaker 3: and so without my explicit consent, he came up behind me,

1864
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:45,293
Speaker 3: saw a vulnerable ki We tourist and said, oh, there's

1865
01:36:45,333 --> 01:36:47,253
Speaker 3: a man who's probably got waxy ears. And I tell

1866
01:36:47,253 --> 01:36:48,653
Speaker 3: you what, he was right on that front at the

1867
01:36:48,733 --> 01:36:51,653
Speaker 3: very least. And yeah, came up, snuck up behind me

1868
01:36:52,173 --> 01:36:53,493
Speaker 3: and cleaned my.

1869
01:36:53,533 --> 01:36:56,813
Speaker 23: Ears for a few rupees. So yeah, that was It

1870
01:36:58,213 --> 01:37:00,613
Speaker 23: was very assertive, I did think. But of course, once

1871
01:37:00,653 --> 01:37:03,573
Speaker 23: you're sort of once your head's been cradled by an

1872
01:37:03,573 --> 01:37:08,133
Speaker 23: Indian man and he's got various instruments tickling your ear drum,

1873
01:37:08,133 --> 01:37:09,813
Speaker 23: you're not really in a position to push back.

1874
01:37:10,453 --> 01:37:14,133
Speaker 3: So yes, yes, yes, that was an experience. But my god,

1875
01:37:14,213 --> 01:37:16,733
Speaker 3: it is I mean, it is an amazing city. It's

1876
01:37:16,773 --> 01:37:19,933
Speaker 3: just you know, and I think you're I think your

1877
01:37:19,973 --> 01:37:22,493
Speaker 3: point about finding a good place to stay. See I

1878
01:37:22,533 --> 01:37:27,133
Speaker 3: reckon the way to really enjoy India if you're not

1879
01:37:27,253 --> 01:37:29,573
Speaker 3: used to traveling in that kind of place. Is to

1880
01:37:29,613 --> 01:37:31,453
Speaker 3: give you is to stay in a place where you

1881
01:37:31,493 --> 01:37:34,013
Speaker 3: can have a little bit of a reprieve from the chaos,

1882
01:37:34,333 --> 01:37:37,213
Speaker 3: so that when you leave your accommodation, when you step

1883
01:37:37,253 --> 01:37:39,653
Speaker 3: outside the front door, you're just going to be bombarded

1884
01:37:39,653 --> 01:37:42,453
Speaker 3: by incredible sights and smells and all these kind of

1885
01:37:42,493 --> 01:37:45,293
Speaker 3: sensory experiences. But having a place where you can kind

1886
01:37:45,333 --> 01:37:50,053
Speaker 3: of retreat and you know, and rejuvenate overnight is really

1887
01:37:50,093 --> 01:37:52,773
Speaker 3: really important. It means you actually enjoy the stuff during

1888
01:37:52,773 --> 01:37:55,173
Speaker 3: the day a whole lot more. I reckon so very

1889
01:37:55,213 --> 01:37:58,333
Speaker 3: good advice. Hey, thank you so much. We will make

1890
01:37:58,373 --> 01:38:00,733
Speaker 3: sure all of your tips for exploring Delhi are up

1891
01:38:00,733 --> 01:38:02,373
Speaker 3: on the news talks. You'd be website and catch you

1892
01:38:02,373 --> 01:38:05,693
Speaker 3: again very soon. That is Mike Cawding and travel correspondent

1893
01:38:05,733 --> 01:38:09,453
Speaker 3: ah Jus Libby has just told me that she had

1894
01:38:09,453 --> 01:38:12,373
Speaker 3: her ears cleaned last week. There you go. I don't know.

1895
01:38:12,413 --> 01:38:14,093
Speaker 3: I've done it as well. I've had it done before,

1896
01:38:14,173 --> 01:38:16,653
Speaker 3: but only because one time I was presenting. I was

1897
01:38:16,693 --> 01:38:19,173
Speaker 3: presenting TV and all of a sudden, one of my

1898
01:38:19,253 --> 01:38:22,653
Speaker 3: ears just went whoop, and all of a sudden it

1899
01:38:22,773 --> 01:38:24,773
Speaker 3: was blocked and I was like, oh my goodness, this

1900
01:38:24,853 --> 01:38:27,053
Speaker 3: is Oh that's so gross. Since I had to have

1901
01:38:27,093 --> 01:38:29,773
Speaker 3: an emergency ear cleaning, which was very satisfying. I'll tell

1902
01:38:29,813 --> 01:38:32,493
Speaker 3: you what's dark, Libby. What's dark is getting into a

1903
01:38:32,533 --> 01:38:35,933
Speaker 3: YouTube hole where you look at professional air cleaners. It's

1904
01:38:35,973 --> 01:38:40,573
Speaker 3: a whole It is a whole industry. It's a whole

1905
01:38:40,613 --> 01:38:43,573
Speaker 3: genre of different films on YouTube where they go and

1906
01:38:43,613 --> 01:38:45,613
Speaker 3: these people who've never had the ears cleaned, and they

1907
01:38:45,613 --> 01:38:48,253
Speaker 3: get the ears cleaned, and it's like, here's sixty years

1908
01:38:48,293 --> 01:38:54,013
Speaker 3: of wax and debris. Anyway, leave you with that metal image.

1909
01:38:54,053 --> 01:38:55,853
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1910
01:38:59,573 --> 01:39:03,453
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Speaker 1: on News Talks edb.

1912
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Speaker 3: Jason Pine is tapping his fingers away. That's music we bring.

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Speaker 3: It is so good day tune, so good. Flantorum Scene's

1915
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Speaker 3: got a new album. If you listened to it yet,

1916
01:39:30,453 --> 01:39:33,093
Speaker 3: I haven't. It came out yesterday. It's called Everybody's Scream,

1917
01:39:33,293 --> 01:39:35,133
Speaker 3: which is very appropriate given it was kind of time

1918
01:39:35,133 --> 01:39:37,613
Speaker 3: for Halloween. So we're going to play that in a

1919
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Speaker 3: few minutes and no excuses for not tuning in. We'll

1920
01:39:40,373 --> 01:39:41,933
Speaker 3: pick out a couple of good songs and play that

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Speaker 3: very shortly, and then of course you'll be in for

1922
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Speaker 3: a weekend sport counting down to the All Blacks Ireland

1923
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Speaker 3: kickoff tomorrow morning Soldier Field, Chicago, and Justin Marshall is

1924
01:39:52,653 --> 01:39:53,173
Speaker 3: on the show.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Justin Marshall after mid day. He's been in Chicago

1926
01:39:55,373 --> 01:39:58,813
Speaker 21: all week, just soaking things up. Question for you, Jack,

1927
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Speaker 21: if the All Blacks don't win all four of the

1928
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Speaker 21: remaining four tests of the year, how would we rate

1929
01:40:06,533 --> 01:40:10,493
Speaker 21: the first two years of Razor's tenure as All Blacks

1930
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Speaker 21: coach if they.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you can only rate the performances on

1932
01:40:14,813 --> 01:40:16,653
Speaker 3: the All Backs by performance, and I think you would

1933
01:40:16,653 --> 01:40:19,293
Speaker 3: say that that's a mediocre result to say the least.

1934
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Speaker 3: I would say, I would say below expectations. Yeah, I

1935
01:40:23,693 --> 01:40:26,173
Speaker 3: think there's a note year criticism of him, but that's

1936
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Speaker 3: the I think he would say the same thing.

1937
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Speaker 21: That's the reality. You're right, and I think Ireland is

1938
01:40:29,693 --> 01:40:32,813
Speaker 21: probably the one. If you look at England, Island, Scotland, Wales,

1939
01:40:33,253 --> 01:40:36,013
Speaker 21: you think Ireland, certainly in the last you know, five

1940
01:40:36,053 --> 01:40:38,133
Speaker 21: to ten years, have been the team that we've struggled

1941
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Speaker 21: most against so I'm so curious to see how they

1942
01:40:42,053 --> 01:40:44,733
Speaker 21: come out tomorrow because they haven't played really together. They

1943
01:40:44,813 --> 01:40:46,693
Speaker 21: had a couple of testama year, but they're missing eighteen

1944
01:40:46,733 --> 01:40:48,973
Speaker 21: guys on the British and Irish lines to it, so

1945
01:40:49,053 --> 01:40:51,453
Speaker 21: they haven't really played together as a full strength team

1946
01:40:51,493 --> 01:40:54,893
Speaker 21: since March. So what'll be now November? So if you

1947
01:40:54,893 --> 01:40:57,613
Speaker 21: haven't played since March, are you underdone or are you

1948
01:40:57,733 --> 01:41:01,133
Speaker 21: absolutely fresh and raring to go? I guess it depends

1949
01:41:01,133 --> 01:41:02,533
Speaker 21: on which way you look at it. I get the

1950
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Speaker 21: feeling the All Blacks will will win the game tomorrow

1951
01:41:05,373 --> 01:41:07,973
Speaker 21: and if they do that then I think that'll launch

1952
01:41:08,053 --> 01:41:09,613
Speaker 21: them pretty well into the back end of the year.

1953
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Speaker 21: I can't imagine us having too many problems with Wales

1954
01:41:12,533 --> 01:41:14,013
Speaker 21: at the back back end of the year.

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Speaker 3: They've been pretty bad.

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Speaker 21: England it twim will be tough in Scotland.

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be a good Test.

1958
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Speaker 21: But yeah, I think most people would would be dissatisfied.

1959
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Speaker 3: If the All Blacks don't win all four. Yeah, I

1960
01:41:24,333 --> 01:41:26,573
Speaker 3: think so too. Yes, I think that that's the reality

1961
01:41:26,613 --> 01:41:29,653
Speaker 3: of things. Black Caps this afternoon as well. Yeah, that's right.

1962
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Speaker 21: Yes, Skuys Stadium, it's what they call a dead rubber.

1963
01:41:32,813 --> 01:41:35,693
Speaker 21: We've already won the series and England don't seem to

1964
01:41:36,373 --> 01:41:39,333
Speaker 21: mess about with the bat in fifty over cricket and

1965
01:41:39,373 --> 01:41:42,653
Speaker 21: it's been to their downfall both of the first two matches.

1966
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Speaker 21: They haven't got past the thirty fourth over batting first

1967
01:41:45,493 --> 01:41:48,093
Speaker 21: and New Zealand's chased it down. Okay, see Michael Bracewell

1968
01:41:48,133 --> 01:41:49,853
Speaker 21: on the show this afternoon as we preview that one.

1969
01:41:49,933 --> 01:41:52,693
Speaker 21: Also Jack, ten years to the day since we won

1970
01:41:52,693 --> 01:41:56,213
Speaker 21: the twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup? Is it really first

1971
01:41:56,213 --> 01:41:59,053
Speaker 21: of November twenty fifteen here in New Zealand thirty one

1972
01:41:59,053 --> 01:42:04,093
Speaker 21: October in the UK? Bodhen Barrett's sprinting away at the Yeah,

1973
01:42:04,133 --> 01:42:06,813
Speaker 21: score that runaway try or that or that thatake ahead

1974
01:42:06,813 --> 01:42:08,173
Speaker 21: try ten years ago?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

1976
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Speaker 21: So Kiaren Reid is going to join us for a

1977
01:42:11,493 --> 01:42:13,693
Speaker 21: wander down memory lane. What is he to remember of

1978
01:42:13,693 --> 01:42:14,173
Speaker 21: that game?

1979
01:42:14,573 --> 01:42:15,053
Speaker 3: Often left?

1980
01:42:15,053 --> 01:42:16,613
Speaker 21: We've got a game this afternoon, how to go Media?

1981
01:42:16,653 --> 01:42:19,053
Speaker 21: Lockland Brooks on the show and one of our rising

1982
01:42:19,133 --> 01:42:22,573
Speaker 21: motorsports stars, Liam Skeet, So really impressive young man. Just

1983
01:42:22,613 --> 01:42:23,333
Speaker 21: after one o'clock.

1984
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Speaker 3: Fantastic IF and Doubt and Motorsport they're all called Liam ah, well,

1985
01:42:28,493 --> 01:42:31,693
Speaker 3: a good start to be a good driver. That's what

1986
01:42:31,733 --> 01:42:33,293
Speaker 3: you call them, too, right, very good.

1987
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Speaker 16: Hey.

1988
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Speaker 3: I I went to one of the All Blacks first.

1989
01:42:35,813 --> 01:42:38,213
Speaker 3: I went to their first test at Soldier Field. So

1990
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Speaker 3: I was the tvd US correspondent.

1991
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

1992
01:42:41,013 --> 01:42:42,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it twenty sixteens, the first year. Yeah,

1993
01:42:43,213 --> 01:42:45,293
Speaker 3: I remember going there and I was there all week

1994
01:42:45,333 --> 01:42:47,933
Speaker 3: with the team and going around and I remember I

1995
01:42:47,973 --> 01:42:50,573
Speaker 3: went to the South Side of Chicago and I did

1996
01:42:51,093 --> 01:42:54,133
Speaker 3: you know which is a predominantly African American neighborhood. And

1997
01:42:54,173 --> 01:42:55,933
Speaker 3: I just went around and I asked people a very

1998
01:42:55,973 --> 01:42:58,733
Speaker 3: simple question. I'd say, are you excited? Are you excited

1999
01:42:58,733 --> 01:42:59,613
Speaker 3: to see the All Blacks?

2000
01:42:59,693 --> 01:42:59,933
Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

2002
01:43:00,453 --> 01:43:02,813
Speaker 3: And people were like, I'm sorry, I remember this one.

2003
01:43:03,253 --> 01:43:05,093
Speaker 3: I said, excited to see the All Blacks? He said

2004
01:43:05,093 --> 01:43:07,493
Speaker 3: the All Blacks and I was like, yeah, he decided

2005
01:43:07,493 --> 01:43:08,853
Speaker 3: to see the All Blacks. And he's like, who are

2006
01:43:08,893 --> 01:43:10,613
Speaker 3: the All Blacks? And I was like, it's the New

2007
01:43:10,693 --> 01:43:13,173
Speaker 3: Zealand rugby team mate, come on, get with it. He's like,

2008
01:43:13,493 --> 01:43:17,373
Speaker 3: you named your team the All Blacks. And I'm like, yeah,

2009
01:43:17,413 --> 01:43:24,733
Speaker 3: it's like that that is an interesting name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, yes,

2010
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Speaker 3: so very much looking forward tomorrow Morning says you've got

2011
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Speaker 3: a great show line for up this afternoon, thank you

2012
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Speaker 3: very much, Jason Pine, and for weekend sport. Right after

2013
01:43:33,013 --> 01:43:35,413
Speaker 3: the midday news, Justin Marshall Kieran read on the show

2014
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Speaker 3: as well. Before midday new music from Florence and the Machine.

2015
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Speaker 3: Next up, we've got your book picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

2018
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Speaker 3: He'd be twenty to twelve on News Talks, he'd be

2019
01:43:50,093 --> 01:43:56,013
Speaker 3: Proving Ground is the latest publication by all time best

2020
01:43:56,013 --> 01:43:59,693
Speaker 3: selling author Michael Conley. Kathin Rains is our book reviewer.

2021
01:43:59,733 --> 01:44:01,693
Speaker 3: She has read Proving Ground and she's here with us

2022
01:44:01,693 --> 01:44:05,413
Speaker 3: this morning with her thoughts. Good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 24: Here is a set against a background of la that's

2024
01:44:09,173 --> 01:44:11,453
Speaker 24: just come out of COVID, and there's the wild fires

2025
01:44:11,453 --> 01:44:13,613
Speaker 24: and it sort of adds this extra dimension to what's

2026
01:44:13,653 --> 01:44:16,773
Speaker 24: going on in story. And he MEAs Mickey hal who's

2027
01:44:16,813 --> 01:44:19,293
Speaker 24: also known as the Lincoln Lawyer, and he swapped his

2028
01:44:19,413 --> 01:44:22,893
Speaker 24: criminal court profession for civil court and in this he's

2029
01:44:22,933 --> 01:44:25,213
Speaker 24: suing this company called tidal Wave and it's an AI

2030
01:44:25,453 --> 01:44:29,853
Speaker 24: company who developed this very realistic AI companion called Claire,

2031
01:44:30,533 --> 01:44:34,133
Speaker 24: and Hayler alleges that it compelled a teenage boy, a

2032
01:44:34,173 --> 01:44:37,773
Speaker 24: guy called Aaron Colton, to shoot and kill his former girlfriend,

2033
01:44:38,333 --> 01:44:41,893
Speaker 24: and Rebecca Randolph is now in custody and the police

2034
01:44:41,933 --> 01:44:44,653
Speaker 24: discovered and their investigation that he did this to please

2035
01:44:44,693 --> 01:44:48,053
Speaker 24: his AI companion, who he's called Ren and how has

2036
01:44:48,093 --> 01:44:51,293
Speaker 24: been hired by Rebecca's mother, a woman called Brenda, to

2037
01:44:51,413 --> 01:44:55,013
Speaker 24: sue them to the company that created this this companion,

2038
01:44:55,053 --> 01:44:58,173
Speaker 24: and she just really wants three things. She wants accountability

2039
01:44:58,213 --> 01:45:01,573
Speaker 24: for their actions, action and what they're doing, and an apology.

2040
01:45:02,053 --> 01:45:04,133
Speaker 24: And all company wants to do is offer a big

2041
01:45:04,173 --> 01:45:07,133
Speaker 24: payout and her to sign a non disclosure statements. So

2042
01:45:07,173 --> 01:45:11,613
Speaker 24: this has never talked about, so's she and Mickey Hatter

2043
01:45:11,613 --> 01:45:14,413
Speaker 24: are really up against this mighte of Silicon Valley, and

2044
01:45:14,493 --> 01:45:16,813
Speaker 24: Hayter's got to contend with these challenges to try and

2045
01:45:16,853 --> 01:45:20,293
Speaker 24: deliver justice for her family and actually ends up being

2046
01:45:20,333 --> 01:45:23,013
Speaker 24: his family as well. And you dive into this world

2047
01:45:23,013 --> 01:45:26,973
Speaker 24: of artificial intelligence and the legal elements surrounding what you know,

2048
01:45:27,053 --> 01:45:31,133
Speaker 24: this innovation that's changed the world so quickly and isn't regulated,

2049
01:45:31,573 --> 01:45:34,053
Speaker 24: and given that speed of change, you know what we

2050
01:45:34,093 --> 01:45:36,613
Speaker 24: should be doing, and of course there's tricks galore by

2051
01:45:36,653 --> 01:45:38,813
Speaker 24: tidal Wave in the chairman Victor when to try and

2052
01:45:38,893 --> 01:45:42,293
Speaker 24: stop the case from regressing, progressing this tampering and frightening

2053
01:45:42,333 --> 01:45:45,653
Speaker 24: of witnesses, and Mickey, who's kind of deep in this

2054
01:45:45,693 --> 01:45:48,133
Speaker 24: world of AI and doesn't really understand it, gets help

2055
01:45:48,173 --> 01:45:50,773
Speaker 24: from this guy called Jack mclvoy who's a technical journalist.

2056
01:45:51,133 --> 01:45:54,093
Speaker 24: But the level maneuvering that Michael Conley is so good

2057
01:45:54,173 --> 01:45:56,653
Speaker 24: at was just intriguing, and it keeps you guessing as

2058
01:45:56,653 --> 01:45:59,653
Speaker 24: to what going to happen next and how that you know,

2059
01:45:59,733 --> 01:46:02,053
Speaker 24: kind of AI is changing our lives, and it's delivered

2060
01:46:02,093 --> 01:46:05,453
Speaker 24: in that typical Michael Conley rollercoaster ride fashion and is

2061
01:46:05,573 --> 01:46:06,813
Speaker 24: well worth a retail so good.

2062
01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:09,373
Speaker 3: Hey, guess what he's on the show next week. Michael

2063
01:46:09,413 --> 01:46:12,453
Speaker 3: Chroles is our feature interview next week, So I'm really

2064
01:46:12,493 --> 01:46:15,053
Speaker 3: looking forward to that because, Yeah, Proving Ground is an

2065
01:46:15,133 --> 01:46:18,933
Speaker 3: absolute stonking read. Next up for us this weekend, You've

2066
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Speaker 3: chosen Mad Mabel by Sally Hepworth.

2067
01:46:22,213 --> 01:46:26,053
Speaker 24: So this story follows Elsie when she's eighty one years

2068
01:46:26,093 --> 01:46:29,413
Speaker 24: old and she's spent the last sixty years essentially in

2069
01:46:29,533 --> 01:46:34,333
Speaker 24: solitude with her new identity and being quietly alone. She

2070
01:46:34,413 --> 01:46:37,213
Speaker 24: lives on a place called Kenny Lane because the community

2071
01:46:37,293 --> 01:46:40,533
Speaker 24: sixty years ago had branded her Mad Mabel, and she

2072
01:46:40,653 --> 01:46:44,293
Speaker 24: was accused of a series of crimes in her youth,

2073
01:46:44,813 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 24: and she was really that child that everyone looked at

2074
01:46:47,293 --> 01:46:50,213
Speaker 24: when things went wrong, and when people got hurt or

2075
01:46:50,293 --> 01:46:54,133
Speaker 24: accidents happened, it was always Mabel's fault. And so sixty

2076
01:46:54,173 --> 01:46:58,133
Speaker 24: years on, she's very prickly, she's quite grumpy. She just

2077
01:46:58,253 --> 01:47:02,133
Speaker 24: wants to live life alone. And beneath that sarcasm and

2078
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:05,133
Speaker 24: stubbiness is these secrets that she just doesn't want anyone

2079
01:47:05,173 --> 01:47:08,133
Speaker 24: to uncover. And there's young Personfhone, who's the seven year

2080
01:47:08,173 --> 01:47:12,933
Speaker 24: old neighbor who bounces completely into Elsie's life and refuses

2081
01:47:13,013 --> 01:47:15,253
Speaker 24: to be shut out no matter what kind of Elsie

2082
01:47:15,573 --> 01:47:17,973
Speaker 24: decides that she's going to do. And so this life

2083
01:47:17,973 --> 01:47:21,573
Speaker 24: on Kenney Street is blowing. When one of her neighbors,

2084
01:47:21,613 --> 01:47:25,653
Speaker 24: Immun dies and Mabel ends up finding him, and she's

2085
01:47:25,693 --> 01:47:28,773
Speaker 24: considered a suspect in the public eyes, particularly when it

2086
01:47:28,773 --> 01:47:31,413
Speaker 24: comes to on what her background was, and so she's

2087
01:47:31,413 --> 01:47:34,453
Speaker 24: not anonymous anymore. And then two YouTubers contact her to

2088
01:47:34,493 --> 01:47:37,013
Speaker 24: tell her side of the story, and that's how you

2089
01:47:37,053 --> 01:47:40,093
Speaker 24: actually start to learn mabel story as she starts to

2090
01:47:40,133 --> 01:47:43,333
Speaker 24: tell it, and it's moving and heartbreaking, and you get

2091
01:47:43,333 --> 01:47:47,453
Speaker 24: these two alternate timelines. You know Mabel from the age

2092
01:47:47,453 --> 01:47:50,413
Speaker 24: of three when her sister died of polio, and then

2093
01:47:50,493 --> 01:47:52,933
Speaker 24: in the present timeline is Elsie at eighty one, who's

2094
01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:56,333
Speaker 24: this quite charmingly grouchy woman who's slightly annoyed with people

2095
01:47:56,333 --> 01:47:59,053
Speaker 24: and irritated. And the book at times is humorous and

2096
01:47:59,093 --> 01:48:02,373
Speaker 24: at times sad, but it's Elsie is just this really

2097
01:48:02,453 --> 01:48:06,173
Speaker 24: intriguing character and fantastic character that really gets under your skin,

2098
01:48:06,573 --> 01:48:08,493
Speaker 24: really want to see what happens. And it's well, we're

2099
01:48:08,493 --> 01:48:12,853
Speaker 24: sitting aside a few hours to hang out with with Elsie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, Okay, that sounds that sounds really interesting, thank you.

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01:48:15,893 --> 01:48:18,933
Speaker 3: So that's Mad Mabel by Sally Hepworth Proving Ground by

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Speaker 3: Michael Connelly as Catherine's first book. And like I say,

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Speaker 3: Michael is going to be on News Talks. He'd be

2104
01:48:23,733 --> 01:48:26,653
Speaker 3: next Saturday morning is our feature interview. We'll have those

2105
01:48:26,653 --> 01:48:28,573
Speaker 3: books up on the News Talks. He'd be website if

2106
01:48:28,573 --> 01:48:30,453
Speaker 3: you want to read along at home as well. Right

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Speaker 3: now it is quartered to twelve new music from Florence

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Speaker 3: in the Machine next giving you.

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Speaker 1: The inside scoop on All You Need to Know Saturday

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Speaker 1: morning with Jack Dame Youth Talks, It'd.

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Speaker 17: Be the street Lights Bursday us back on the street Lights, first.

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Speaker 19: Set up, Never be great, health against things really gets

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Speaker 19: to be the time, it's money, be nice to be

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Speaker 19: a man, caring music just because we can't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that is so good, because that is so good?

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Speaker 3: Do you know I really do. I'm not just saying this.

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Speaker 3: I get the little like shiver up my spine when

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Speaker 3: Florence gets into her oppa re just to like that.

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Speaker 3: It is just it is like kind of soaring and

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Speaker 3: majestic and everything else. That is one of the greats

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Speaker 3: by Florence and the Machine from her new album Everybody Scream.

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Speaker 3: Chris Schultz has been listening and as with us this morning,

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 10: Jack, I feel the same way right that that voice

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Speaker 10: is just it's even better on this album. It's she sounds,

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Speaker 10: it's more mature, it's deeper, but she's hitting higher notes

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Speaker 10: like it's fuller. There are moments like that all through

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Speaker 10: the album where she just hits you like these songs

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Speaker 10: sort of build slowly, often with like little grungy chords

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Speaker 10: or little guitar chords, and then it just ererupts into

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Speaker 10: the soaring anthem. And these are built for light live shows.

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Speaker 10: Like if you've seen her live, she that's her spot,

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Speaker 10: that's her play, has like communal kind of gut howls

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Speaker 10: with her crowds, and she gets down in the crowd.

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Speaker 10: She often spends a lot of time just out in

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Speaker 10: with the fans performing, and these songs are.

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Speaker 3: Belt for that.

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Speaker 10: There, Yeah, it's the album.

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Speaker 5: It just.

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Speaker 3: Like I think, if you think about and I'm using

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01:50:50,373 --> 01:50:53,973
Speaker 3: this term loosely mainstream pop, okay, but if you think

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Speaker 3: if you think about the prominent artists of the last

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Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty years, I would put Florence Welch in

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Speaker 3: the absolute top echelon for singers whose voices you recognize immediately.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 3: There is something about her voice that is just like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but you just you

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01:51:11,733 --> 01:51:14,333
Speaker 3: hear it, and whether it's on her music or anywhere else,

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Speaker 3: the moment you hear it, you're like, oh, there's Florence.

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Speaker 3: There's Florence.

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Speaker 10: I think you're right, but you know, she's not a

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01:51:19,413 --> 01:51:22,693
Speaker 10: pop star. No, not Yeah, she's headlined Glastonbury. Yeah, she's

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01:51:22,733 --> 01:51:25,693
Speaker 10: worked with Taylor Swift, but you wouldn't say she's like Charlie.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, she's not kind of syrupy and it's

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01:51:28,733 --> 01:51:31,973
Speaker 3: not yeah yeah, yeah, you're right. She's kind of grungier

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01:51:32,053 --> 01:51:34,853
Speaker 3: or there's a mora alternativepecially on this album.

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Speaker 10: So this is made with Aaron Dresner, who made Taylor

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01:51:37,893 --> 01:51:40,173
Speaker 10: Swift slash Through not the most recent album of the

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Speaker 10: last three ones Folklore ever more in torture Poets, the

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Speaker 10: acoustic emotional albums, this is the guy you turn to

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Speaker 10: when you want to make this kind of music. There's

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Speaker 10: also an incredible story behind this album. She had there's

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01:51:55,493 --> 01:51:57,373
Speaker 10: a story in The Guardian. She's only done this one

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01:51:57,413 --> 01:52:00,053
Speaker 10: big interview about it. She had a miscarriage in twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty three, went on stage afterwards, was feeling a bit

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01:52:03,813 --> 01:52:08,173
Speaker 10: woozy and went home and then only because a doctor

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01:52:08,333 --> 01:52:10,453
Speaker 10: made her go and get a scan did she find

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Speaker 10: out that she was kind of hours away from really

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01:52:13,133 --> 01:52:15,893
Speaker 10: serious consequences nearly killed her.

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Speaker 3: Geez.

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Speaker 10: So this album is about that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 10: like which he howls. One of the lyrics is like,

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Speaker 10: you know, I'm Back from the Dead. There's a lot

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Speaker 10: of like just like kind of like really primal kind

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01:52:28,333 --> 01:52:32,013
Speaker 10: of shrieks, almost like she's dancing around a cauldron, yelling

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01:52:32,053 --> 01:52:35,933
Speaker 10: into the forest sort of thing. It's that kind of album.

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Speaker 10: She's really going for it. The other the other really

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Speaker 10: interesting thing to note is she's wrestling with fame on

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01:52:42,293 --> 01:52:44,893
Speaker 10: a lot of these songs because she thought about giving

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01:52:44,933 --> 01:52:47,173
Speaker 10: it up, and some of the lyrics are quite direct,

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01:52:47,173 --> 01:52:49,413
Speaker 10: like I can't give it up because I love like

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Speaker 10: her places, those live shows, that's where she wants to be,

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01:52:52,893 --> 01:52:53,493
Speaker 10: she needs to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that line, it must be nice to be a

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Speaker 3: man and make music just because you can. There's so good.

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Speaker 10: A every time I hear that, it's so great.

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01:53:02,493 --> 01:53:07,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, So so in terms of this versus

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01:53:07,493 --> 01:53:13,693
Speaker 3: previous releases, is it you Reckon? It's slightly grungier, slightly darker,

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01:53:15,133 --> 01:53:18,013
Speaker 3: and leaning more into the kind of pagan around the

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01:53:18,013 --> 01:53:20,253
Speaker 3: cauldron thing than ever before that.

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Speaker 10: Definitely I think too. She's she's meeting this moment where

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01:53:23,973 --> 01:53:27,573
Speaker 10: female artists are really stepping up and just letting it

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01:53:27,733 --> 01:53:30,373
Speaker 10: all hang out there that you know, you look at

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01:53:30,413 --> 01:53:33,613
Speaker 10: Lord's Virgin. She stripped herself back and found this new

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01:53:33,693 --> 01:53:37,453
Speaker 10: version of herself that you know Lily Allen's album last

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01:53:37,533 --> 01:53:40,493
Speaker 10: week where she just you know, did this brutal ride

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01:53:40,493 --> 01:53:43,973
Speaker 10: through her divorce. This is very of the moment, and

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Speaker 10: I think that's why it feels punchier because she's she's

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Speaker 10: being more personal about it. This is this is real.

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01:53:52,173 --> 01:53:54,813
Speaker 10: You know, this happened to her, and this is what

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Speaker 10: the album's about. You know, she the closest she's come

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01:53:57,573 --> 01:54:00,373
Speaker 10: to making life is the closest she's come to losing

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01:54:00,373 --> 01:54:03,813
Speaker 10: her own life, and she's come out with this incredible

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01:54:04,013 --> 01:54:04,773
Speaker 10: album about it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's quite I'm so looking forward to listening

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01:54:08,293 --> 01:54:10,253
Speaker 3: to this, you know, like this is really sounds like

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01:54:10,253 --> 01:54:12,613
Speaker 3: a bit of me, to be honest. I just I

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01:54:12,653 --> 01:54:14,253
Speaker 3: love her music. I think she's amazing. I've seen her

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Speaker 3: live as well. She's just Yes, she is incredible. So

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Speaker 3: what did you give it?

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Speaker 10: I'm going to give this eight out of ten. And

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Speaker 10: I also fingers crossed. Yeah for a live show down here, Wilson.

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01:54:23,853 --> 01:54:26,253
Speaker 10: I want to see a spark Arena, full house, out

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01:54:26,293 --> 01:54:27,973
Speaker 10: in the crowd. I want to see these songs live.

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01:54:28,133 --> 01:54:29,693
Speaker 10: That's where they're meant to be played.

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01:54:29,773 --> 01:54:29,973
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:54:30,093 --> 01:54:33,413
Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, So everybody screen is Florence and the Machine's

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Speaker 3: new album will play a bit more in a couple

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Speaker 3: of minutes. Pick up one of those big powerful tracks.

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Speaker 3: Chris Schultz, of course, is on substack. His substack is

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Speaker 3: called boiler Room. You'll be able to find that and

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Speaker 3: we'll be back in a couple of minutes. Right now

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Speaker 3: at seven to twelve.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: dam News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Right oh, I'm handing over the studio, the baton, and

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Speaker 3: the microphone to Jason Pine for weekend Sport. In a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes. He is counting down to the All

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Speaker 3: Blacks Chicago test tomorrow morning with Justin Marshall and Karen

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Speaker 3: Read on the show. Thank you very much for your

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Speaker 3: company all throughout this morning. Really appreciate it everything from

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Speaker 3: our shows on the news Talks, he'd be website. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for all your text and emails throughout

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Speaker 3: the morning as well, and to my wonderful producer Libby

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Speaker 3: who got her ears clean for the first time last week.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a great experience, but really appreciate for her help.

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Speaker 3: We're going to leave you with Florence and the Machine

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Speaker 3: her new album is Everybody's Scream. This is Sympathy Magic.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you next week.

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