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Speaker 1: Afternoon. The government has announced its review into the way

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Speaker 1: Tonguey Tribunal will kick off mid year. Advice will be

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Speaker 1: given to the government by September and any law changes

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Speaker 1: will be introduced before the end of the year. The

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Speaker 1: Minister for Marii Development, Tama Portucker, joins us Now, Hey, Tamma.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jody, hear they haven't heard from you lately.

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Speaker 1: I've been on maternity leave.

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Speaker 2: Oh important, tukey, important reason.

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Speaker 1: You're tuned into the news, Tamma, what exactly is this

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Speaker 1: review going to look into?

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Speaker 2: This review timely fifty years since the tribunal was established.

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Speaker 2: We're going to look into reviewing the act that gives

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Speaker 2: rise for the tribuneal It's called the Treaty of Whiting

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Speaker 2: Act nineteen seventy five, the jurisdiction classification of claims, inquiry

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Speaker 2: practice and a couple of other things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what actually is it going to look into?

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Speaker 1: So what part of what the tribunal is doing is

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Speaker 1: it looking at.

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Speaker 2: Well, give you an example, it runs inquiries according to

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Speaker 2: very very old legislation nineteen oh eighth legislation in the

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Speaker 2: way it conduct in South needs to be we think,

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Speaker 2: you know, modernized. The jurisdiction. It's finishing off the his

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Speaker 2: historical claims, but it's got a range of contemporary claims

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Speaker 2: that it looks at and any mardy can take a

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Speaker 2: claim based on the criteria set out in the Act.

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Speaker 2: So that's something that needs to be reviewed.

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Speaker 1: So do you foresee the White Tangi Tribunal existing beyond

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Speaker 1: those historical claims once they're all settled?

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Speaker 2: Well, when the Waite Tangi Tribunal set up is actually

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Speaker 2: set up to look at contemporary claims, that's what it

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Speaker 2: was set up to do. But we want to ensure

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Speaker 2: that it is reviewed, there's some clarity and the recommendations

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Speaker 2: about what it continues to do. We're not talking about

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Speaker 2: the tribunal's existence. We're talking about how it will be

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Speaker 2: fit for purpose in the future.

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Speaker 1: Once it's done all the treaty settlements. Right, once that

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Speaker 1: is all done, what does it do.

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Speaker 2: Then it actually inquires into claims. The treaty settlements are

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Speaker 2: negotiated between the Crown and ewgroups, so it doesn't do

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Speaker 2: the settlements itself. It just inquires into claims.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to look at what it's doing in

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Speaker 1: terms of government policy? Like the Treaty Principal's bell and

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're looking at the function of the Tribunal and

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Speaker 2: other matters will be left up to the Technical Advisory

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Speaker 2: Group to take a look at and response, use and

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Speaker 2: recommend to Cabinet. We will make decisions and go to Parliament.

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Speaker 2: Parliament has the final say.

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Speaker 1: Do you, I mean, some of your coalition partners obviously

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Speaker 1: have some concerns about the way that the Tribunal conducts itself,

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Speaker 1: involving itself in politics.

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Speaker 2: Very strong views.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any concerns?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that we've got to make sure it's

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Speaker 2: fit for purpose and that it's effective. We're seeing the

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Speaker 2: Tribunal has become very very busy, and sometimes that affects

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Speaker 2: other things like the Mighty Land Court judges are also

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Speaker 2: on the Tribunal, so when it is ensconced in tribunal work,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Mardi landwork court work sort of

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Speaker 2: falls behind as well. So in terms of the resource

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Speaker 2: and whatnot. There are some issues there, but we want

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Speaker 2: to make sure that it continues but in a very clear,

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Speaker 2: coherent and transparent way about what it's looking at and

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Speaker 2: how it's conducting itself. As I said, this is not

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Speaker 2: about legacy. This is about function.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tomma, thanks very much, appreciate it. Tum A paultuck

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