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Speaker 3: Great New Zealanders to matt and Tyler afternoons on z

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Speaker 3: B the podcast Huge Election Special. Today. We went all

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Speaker 3: over the world talking to people, and at one point

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Speaker 3: I went to a pub and talked to the console American.

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Speaker 4: Critics News time down there. You threatened to not come

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Speaker 4: back to the studio, but you got frog marched out

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Speaker 3: I had a great nine minutes down there, and then

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Speaker 3: I was right back. It looks like a real part

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Speaker 3: of here. But I've got my press past there. So

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Speaker 3: there's free alcoholm food on the American so much just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but exciting day went live to Michigan, live to

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Speaker 4: the East coast, I mean live everywhere, will't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. So get in and listen to this

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Speaker 3: fast because by tomorrow this podcast is going to be

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Speaker 3: well out of date.

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Speaker 4: All hail President Trump or President Harris.

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Speaker 3: Anyway you go seem busy, I'll let you go give

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Speaker 1: Full There to teening Talk. It's Mattie and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: afternoons on News Talk Sebby Well.

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Speaker 4: Hello, good afternoon, Election day here. We are huge day

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Speaker 4: for America and the world, the world series of politics

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Speaker 4: America decides twenty twenty four. So as you know, we

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Speaker 4: will bring you extensive coverage as the afternoon progresses. We're

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Speaker 4: going to take your life to Michigan, one of the

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Speaker 4: big battleground states, where we'll speak to Mitch mccannon who's

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Speaker 4: on the ground. Dan Mitchison, our correspondent on the East Coast,

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Speaker 4: will go to him after three o'clock as well, and Matt,

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Speaker 4: you'll be heading down to the American Chamber of Commerce

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Speaker 4: watch party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, a cham the election celebration at the Empire.

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Speaker 3: I'll be getting the pulse of the most American spot

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Speaker 3: Consul General Melissa Sweeney or Chair of the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: US Council Jonathan Mason, or whoever I can call he

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Speaker 3: down there to just see how people are feeling as

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you normally watch the election, Tyler, and enjoy it

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Speaker 3: and watch it like a sporting event.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, this is game day for me. Absolutely. And

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Speaker 4: in previous years were the last four years, I was

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Speaker 4: out we didn't actually have a result for about three

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Speaker 4: weeks after that. But the one before that, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: that was a big night at home. There was a

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Speaker 4: few tears for some friends, some celebrations with other friends.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's American politics for you, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: You've had a lot of parties. The one before that

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Speaker 3: was over very quickly. I bought a bunch of food

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Speaker 3: without a second Obama election. But yeah, no, the coverage

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Speaker 3: It's an absolute sea of flashing lights and numbers and

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Speaker 4: Gup, you got through here. There's three bolts here. They

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Speaker 4: isn't he The old magic screen.

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Speaker 4: Now, everyone including us will be keeping an eye on

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Speaker 4: those battleground states Arizona, Georgia and Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania

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Speaker 4: is a big one. Wisconsin. We've got about seventeen screens

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Speaker 4: And any breaking news you'll hear it here first, So

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Speaker 4: love your feedback. Nine two nine two is the text number. Oh,

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 4: calling after two o'clock. We want to talk to you

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Speaker 3: That's right? Is America still the most influential country in

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Speaker 3: If not, who and if it's waning, is that a

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Speaker 3: and is that a bad thing?

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Speaker 4: That's going to be a good chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: But right now, we want to bring it back to

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. An Auckland landlord fought for months to a

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Speaker 4: So the question we want to put to you is

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Speaker 3: Wow, you're the perfect person to talk about it and.

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Speaker 4: The middle And I've had my problem with property managers

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Speaker 4: I actually think the pendulum has swung too far to

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Speaker 4: the renter's rights over the landlord, and being a renter

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Speaker 4: Because we've got a dog and we knew how hard

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Speaker 4: But if that family turns out and they won't be

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Speaker 4: their new tenants, you know, welcome, enjoy the place. It's

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Speaker 4: But if they if we get into a situation like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what about the compliance because you lived in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Healthy Homes compliance checklist. Man, that was a

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Speaker 4: but the checklist was so intensive and I had all

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Speaker 4: that's not good enough. And I'm not having to go

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Speaker 4: at our property manager here. This is just the way

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Speaker 3: And the interesting thing about that is you were very comfortable,

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Speaker 4: Off, not according to the law. Oh wait, one hundred

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four us talk said.

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Speaker 4: Be good afternoon at seventeen past one.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in this conversation because I was in a

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Speaker 3: position where I was going to be involved in a

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Speaker 3: it meant to be a landlord and hearing all these

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Speaker 3: horror stories like the one we're talking about today, I

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Speaker 3: just thought that seems like too much of a pain.

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Speaker 3: So I sold the house. Yeah, and that's not great

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Speaker 3: because we need rental stock, don't we in the market?

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Speaker 3: So am I wrong? Is it too much of a

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Speaker 3: pain to rent out a house or not? We've already

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Speaker 3: made decision. That house is already self.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, Melissa, you're a landlord, do you concur with

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Speaker 6: Hi, guys, I'm a first time caller and I'm like Jay,

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Speaker 6: feeling really strong about this. I've given us an example

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Speaker 6: of our recent latest thing. We went to our home a

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Speaker 6: year ago. The lady at the time told the letting

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Speaker 6: Upon the first inspection, there's a big sign on the

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Speaker 6: fence she's got one of the bedrooms made up as

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Speaker 6: a hair dressing studio. Now, my insurance was void because

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Speaker 6: my insurance would only cover home office, so it put

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Speaker 3: Now, Belisa, would you knowing all this and how complicdicated

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Speaker 6: So my huts and I've got a few rentals are

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Speaker 6: I think that the first of all, when they're vetting

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Speaker 6: that are happening with all of us. You know, there

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Speaker 4: Are you talking about the property managers. When you say agents,

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Speaker 4: And we've recently gone through this process. And again, this

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Speaker 4: But the process was that we saw or no. The

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Speaker 6: There's no, never ever been any beef with the letting

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Could not aless. Like you say, the agent said, you're

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Speaker 3: Do you think the renters were dishonest there or they

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Speaker 6: Lovely, lovely people, don't get me wrong, the nice tenants,

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Speaker 4: And clearly it's led to a lot of streets for

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Speaker 6: But you're I just had no insurance in the paid

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Speaker 6: Has there been a fire? This tenant said, Will I

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Speaker 6: have liability insurance? I said, well, that's it's the letting agent.

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Speaker 6: I'll be the one fight then because my insurance won't

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Speaker 4: Well, Melissa, I'm really sorry you had to go through that.

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Speaker 4: We're really sorry, but thank you very much for giving

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Speaker 4: and it's been hunky dory you've got a good relationship

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you were thinking about renting out a

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Speaker 3: to hear from you as well. Oh, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: It is twenty three past one.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the My asking breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Are you bullish or full of apprehension?

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Speaker 7: A few pretty good of it before we are.

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Speaker 8: It is a pitiful mess for such a large, influential

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Speaker 9: I'm hearing in Pennsylvania they won't have an answer till

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Speaker 8: That's not true. Paper ballads are cumbersome and slow. Essentially,

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Speaker 8: show and the Liberals won't see it. Back tomorrow at

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Speaker 8: six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Mayley's Real Estate

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Speaker 3: Language there from Mike costumes standards.

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Speaker 4: He's a passive, passionate man and our best broadcaster.

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Speaker 10: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Of course, there is a big election going on, as

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Speaker 4: And we've got plenty of action on the US election

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Speaker 4: after two o'clock as well. But in the meantime we

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Speaker 4: swung too far to the direction of renters over landlords.

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Speaker 4: This is on the back of an Auckland landlord who

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Speaker 4: fought for months to victor's tenants after they stop paying

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Speaker 4: rent and they try asked his property, Mike, how are

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Speaker 4: you this afternoon? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Good things yourself?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good. So you're coming at this from a

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Speaker 12: Now, I will want to say that, you know, I

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Speaker 13: The rig raw you went through with getting.

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Speaker 12: Your healthy home standards yep, for example, and helping to

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Speaker 11: Now, as the tenants The way.

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Speaker 12: I look at that is, you know, normally people have

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Speaker 11: As a business.

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Speaker 9: You know, you're doing it at the end of the

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Speaker 11: To better yourself for future. You've got to look at

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 11: In New Zealand, we have laws in place that states

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Speaker 9: I'm an electrician. Any new electrical.

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Speaker 11: Components bowed in the country has to go through rigorous

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Speaker 11: For the manufacturer. But it's just one of those things

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Speaker 11: be things like mold growing or the healthy damps and.

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Speaker 4: I think by and large that policy is good that

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Speaker 4: the problem I had with that whole process is it

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Speaker 4: that we gave them documented proof already existed in a

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Speaker 4: new built As if you've got a house that's one

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Speaker 4: hundred years old, then maybe you do need to spend

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Speaker 4: So yeah, no, absolutely absolutely with you on the policy.

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Speaker 4: It's just the way that the policy is enacted. I

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I understand that, And I think i'd just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's interesting in your position, though, Tyler,

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Speaker 3: and it was more than good enough for you double glazed,

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Speaker 3: considerably better than it needed to be for you to

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Speaker 3: live in And that seems like a crazy situation to me. Well,

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Speaker 4: No, but the fact that they so we had to

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Speaker 4: get in a specialist to calculate the up of that

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00:20:08,813 --> 00:20:12,253
Speaker 4: palate fire when any normal person could turn that on

440
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Speaker 4: and see how much it heats the home, and that

441
00:20:15,293 --> 00:20:17,293
Speaker 4: that house kept the heat because it was double glades.

442
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Speaker 3: That's stuff.

443
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Speaker 4: But the fact we had to pay a consultant, an

444
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Speaker 4: energy consultant to come in and do that, I thought,

445
00:20:22,853 --> 00:20:24,373
Speaker 4: that's just someone clipping the ticket.

446
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Speaker 3: That is dumb, That is silly.

447
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Speaker 14: No, No, that is yeah.

448
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Because again I'm an electrician and we've worked a

449
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Speaker 12: lot with property managers and homeowners to get their homes

450
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Speaker 12: up to healthy home standards and including things like installing

451
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Speaker 12: heaters or even were necessary. They did that part of

452
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Speaker 12: it where I've had feedback from as well.

453
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Speaker 11: The homeowners having to get sort of engineers or people

454
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Speaker 11: to come and just to tell them what they need

455
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Speaker 11: before they have to pay money to another trades person.

456
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Speaker 13: To actually install the product.

457
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I can understand that point as well, Mike.

458
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. Michael. I've got a

459
00:20:56,373 --> 00:20:58,053
Speaker 3: sort of a flip side view on this. When I

460
00:20:58,053 --> 00:21:00,693
Speaker 3: first moved up to Auckland from Dunedin, I didn't have

461
00:21:00,773 --> 00:21:03,853
Speaker 3: much money and I was looking for a terrible house

462
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Speaker 3: to live in so it was cheap. I was actively

463
00:21:05,933 --> 00:21:08,133
Speaker 3: looking for a crap house and I ended up living

464
00:21:08,173 --> 00:21:10,973
Speaker 3: in a shed that was about as long as me.

465
00:21:11,213 --> 00:21:14,493
Speaker 3: You could hear rats under the under the floorboards.

466
00:21:14,533 --> 00:21:16,493
Speaker 4: Not much insulation in that one.

467
00:21:16,493 --> 00:21:19,333
Speaker 3: Not much insulation, and that my girlfriend break up with me.

468
00:21:19,333 --> 00:21:20,973
Speaker 3: It broke up with me the first night she stayed

469
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Speaker 3: in there. But that was what I was looking for

470
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Speaker 3: because I didn't want to pay a huge amount of rent.

471
00:21:25,653 --> 00:21:28,373
Speaker 3: I wanted to get ahead in my life by choosing

472
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Speaker 3: a terrible property, so that was offering me. I mean,

473
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Speaker 3: is that opportunity available to people now, people that want

474
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Speaker 3: to live in a rubbish house and are willing to

475
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Speaker 3: slum it. If you could just sign something saying I

476
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Speaker 3: want to live in the cheapest possible property I can,

477
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Speaker 3: so I can get ahead in this new city.

478
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Speaker 4: If you want to be a millionaire, folks, then live

479
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Speaker 4: in a early life and then get ahead. Oh, one

480
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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is another to call it's

481
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Speaker 4: twenty eight to two.

482
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Speaker 15: Jew's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

483
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Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. Carmala Harris and Donald

484
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Speaker 15: Trump have picked up their first projected wins in the

485
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Speaker 15: US selection. C and N projections give Trump twenty three

486
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Speaker 15: electoral votes with wins in Kentucky, Indiana, and West Virginia,

487
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Speaker 15: while Harris has Vermont giving her three electoral votes. C

488
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Speaker 15: and Ann's John King says its neck and neck in

489
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Speaker 15: swing steak Georgia.

490
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Speaker 3: Although Trump has.

491
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Speaker 4: The edge the Trump base in rural America, coming out

492
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Speaker 4: in battleground Georgia, it is absolutely essential to his math

493
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Speaker 4: that he run it up big in places like that.

494
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Speaker 15: Unemployment continues to grow, reaching four point eight percent in

495
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Speaker 15: the September quarter. The number of people employed in the

496
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Speaker 15: past five years who left their role has risen thirty

497
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Speaker 15: four point five percent annually. Murder accused King Jun Chao

498
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Speaker 15: has decided to defend himself against the charge of killing

499
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Speaker 15: christ Urtrealta Yan Fei Bao, his former lawyers have been

500
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Speaker 15: appointed as stand by Council. American far right activist Candice

501
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Speaker 15: Owens has been forced to delay one New Zealand event

502
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Speaker 15: at Auckland's Trust's arena after the promoter postpone next Thursday's address,

503
00:23:07,253 --> 00:23:10,813
Speaker 15: win or lose y Trump has already won. See the

504
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Speaker 15: column and funnel all the news out of America, including

505
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Speaker 15: a live video analysis show from four pm at NZB Herald.

506
00:23:18,573 --> 00:23:20,693
Speaker 15: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

507
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Ray Lean.

508
00:23:22,053 --> 00:23:25,573
Speaker 3: That John King on on the touch screen is so iconic.

509
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Speaker 4: I just count the boss. It's just coming running up vault.

510
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Speaker 4: He's got to run up the vaults of the rural

511
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Speaker 4: vauts coming coming out here here. We need the demograph

512
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Speaker 4: to come into this county here. Just open it up

513
00:23:33,013 --> 00:23:35,613
Speaker 4: here and you look at this. He knows his stuff,

514
00:23:35,613 --> 00:23:37,413
Speaker 4: that John King, So they just roll him out for

515
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Speaker 4: election day. He's so good at it. Whether you like

516
00:23:39,573 --> 00:23:41,773
Speaker 4: CNN or not, just check it out. John King with

517
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Speaker 4: the magic screen. He is phenomenal.

518
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Speaker 3: I think that was the first time I'd seen a

519
00:23:46,413 --> 00:23:50,093
Speaker 3: touchscreen when he first started doing that. That was like, wow,

520
00:23:50,133 --> 00:23:54,773
Speaker 3: touch screens. That's interesting. And since then, so many people

521
00:23:54,813 --> 00:23:56,693
Speaker 3: have messed up a touchscreen on live TV.

522
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Speaker 4: I've definitely seen it in the coverage of New Zealand elections.

523
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Speaker 4: But John King, whatever you think of CNN, that guy,

524
00:24:02,493 --> 00:24:05,973
Speaker 4: he knows his touchscreen. He is the master. Right, we

525
00:24:06,173 --> 00:24:08,893
Speaker 4: are talking about landlords and tenant on the back of

526
00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:11,533
Speaker 4: an Auckland landlord who had his property trashed. He couldn't

527
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Speaker 4: get his tenants out for two months. He fought to

528
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Speaker 4: have them evicted after they stopped paying rent. Has the

529
00:24:17,133 --> 00:24:21,053
Speaker 4: pendulum shifted too far towards renters? Mark? How do you

530
00:24:21,053 --> 00:24:21,613
Speaker 4: feel about this?

531
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Speaker 2: Hey?

532
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Speaker 16: Hey, he guys, Hey, I've been a landlord now, excuse

533
00:24:25,653 --> 00:24:28,333
Speaker 16: metally forty years. I bought my first house at twenty two,

534
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Speaker 16: and the mates move in with me, and then sort

535
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Speaker 16: of just bought another one, bought another one, brought another one,

536
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Speaker 16: and over those years, when I'm just sitting here thinking

537
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Speaker 16: about it, most of the issues I had were probably

538
00:24:39,973 --> 00:24:42,093
Speaker 16: ninety percent of the problems I had with tenants were

539
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Speaker 16: ones that property managers had put.

540
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Speaker 5: In for me.

541
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Speaker 16: So we decided, maybe twenty years ago now, my wife

542
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Speaker 16: and I decided that we were giving up our full

543
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Speaker 16: time jobs and just going hard out with the rental properties,

544
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Speaker 16: and we run it like a business we managed and

545
00:25:00,653 --> 00:25:07,013
Speaker 16: manage them ourselves. Now we've found two recently. We if

546
00:25:07,053 --> 00:25:09,333
Speaker 16: we have a choice of tenants, will always take the

547
00:25:09,413 --> 00:25:17,093
Speaker 16: overseas tenants. They seem to be overseas tenants. Most of

548
00:25:17,133 --> 00:25:20,093
Speaker 16: them know they'll never own a house. They're long term renter.

549
00:25:20,213 --> 00:25:22,693
Speaker 16: Some of them rent for life sort of thing, and

550
00:25:22,733 --> 00:25:26,013
Speaker 16: they're really onto it. They're they're good tenants, they're respectful,

551
00:25:26,053 --> 00:25:29,293
Speaker 16: they look after the properties. So that's where we try

552
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Speaker 16: and head if we can get an overseas tenant, and

553
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Speaker 16: maybe say most of them are overseas tenants. At the

554
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Speaker 16: moment we've touch we've had no real issues with them.

555
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Speaker 3: Do you have any problems getting tenants? Do you just

556
00:25:40,173 --> 00:25:43,013
Speaker 3: have to do you have enough of a range of

557
00:25:43,053 --> 00:25:45,653
Speaker 3: people that you can select someone that you think is

558
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Speaker 3: gonna be good to your property.

559
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Speaker 16: To be honest, if you We've just had a turnover

560
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Speaker 16: too of our flats and the people that were leaving

561
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Speaker 16: they actually said we've got family coming over and they'd

562
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Speaker 16: like to rent it, so we can then left advertise it.

563
00:26:02,653 --> 00:26:06,053
Speaker 16: So their family or friends have moved into the flat

564
00:26:06,093 --> 00:26:08,933
Speaker 16: now and they're they're being just as good as they were.

565
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Speaker 4: Is it a full time job for you, Mark genuinely

566
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Speaker 4: to how many hours would you spend. I suppose that's

567
00:26:14,493 --> 00:26:17,133
Speaker 4: determinant on how many rentals you have. But in terms

568
00:26:17,213 --> 00:26:19,373
Speaker 4: of getting phone calls from your tenants saying the heat

569
00:26:19,373 --> 00:26:22,052
Speaker 4: pumps buggered, there's a leak we need to fix here,

570
00:26:22,213 --> 00:26:23,613
Speaker 4: is that something that you get quite often?

571
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Speaker 17: No, it's still be silly stuff. I got one exit

572
00:26:28,373 --> 00:26:33,373
Speaker 17: from lieutenants to say she found a cockroach and corrective exterminator.

573
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Speaker 17: So we've sorted that one out quite quickly.

574
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Speaker 16: So patch we don't many hours on it at all.

575
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Speaker 16: It enables us time.

576
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Speaker 17: To my wife volunteers and I do volunteer work, and yeah,

577
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Speaker 17: we sort of keep busy that way now.

578
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Speaker 3: But there's a thing that's going on now or I

579
00:26:50,013 --> 00:26:54,093
Speaker 3: feel that landlords are being portrayed in quite a negative light.

580
00:26:54,773 --> 00:26:58,373
Speaker 3: Do you care about your tenants? Do you feel that

581
00:26:58,413 --> 00:27:01,653
Speaker 3: it's your job to provide them a great place to live?

582
00:27:01,693 --> 00:27:04,292
Speaker 3: I know Tyler here he thought it was important that

583
00:27:04,413 --> 00:27:06,893
Speaker 3: tenants out there in the community had an opportunity to

584
00:27:07,013 --> 00:27:09,453
Speaker 3: live in a place with dogs. So when he rented

585
00:27:09,453 --> 00:27:11,653
Speaker 3: out his place in christ Church, it was important for

586
00:27:11,733 --> 00:27:14,613
Speaker 3: him and his partner to make it available for people

587
00:27:14,693 --> 00:27:17,093
Speaker 3: that want dogs. Do you feel that way about your tenants?

588
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:19,693
Speaker 3: Are you just trying to do the least you can

589
00:27:19,813 --> 00:27:21,613
Speaker 3: and get the most money out of them?

590
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Speaker 16: No, that I must have. Probably in the earlier days

591
00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:27,173
Speaker 16: it was for me. We'd just buy anything and as

592
00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:28,973
Speaker 16: long as I could green till I didn't care. But

593
00:27:29,853 --> 00:27:33,013
Speaker 16: now we're we're a bit house proud ourselves now and

594
00:27:33,253 --> 00:27:36,093
Speaker 16: now I make sure that we provide a quality product,

595
00:27:36,173 --> 00:27:39,253
Speaker 16: and you normally get a quality tenant. It's like keepy

596
00:27:39,253 --> 00:27:41,173
Speaker 16: thinking if you've got an inferior product, were you going

597
00:27:41,213 --> 00:27:43,533
Speaker 16: to track that sort of clientele?

598
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Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice to hear from you, Mark, Thank you

599
00:27:46,173 --> 00:27:47,813
Speaker 4: very much. Oh e one hundred and eighty teen eighty

600
00:27:47,893 --> 00:27:51,453
Speaker 4: is the number to call. Has the pendulum swung too

601
00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:54,773
Speaker 4: far towards renters over landlords in terms of rights? Really

602
00:27:54,973 --> 00:27:55,653
Speaker 4: hear from you, and.

603
00:27:55,613 --> 00:27:58,493
Speaker 3: Of course we'll keep you updated in any of the

604
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Speaker 3: news on this massive election that's happening right now in

605
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Speaker 3: the United States of America.

606
00:28:02,693 --> 00:28:04,813
Speaker 4: Starting to heat up. It is twenty to two.

607
00:28:06,133 --> 00:28:10,053
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the boys on eight and Taylor

608
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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four youth Talk said, be.

609
00:28:14,493 --> 00:28:16,973
Speaker 4: Good afternoon seventeen to two. Just a reminder, we're going

610
00:28:16,973 --> 00:28:19,573
Speaker 4: to take you live to Michigan after three o'clock to

611
00:28:19,613 --> 00:28:22,093
Speaker 4: have a chat to Mitch mccannon, also Dan Mitchison now

612
00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:24,373
Speaker 4: correspondent on the East Coast. But right now we're talking

613
00:28:24,413 --> 00:28:26,973
Speaker 4: about landlords and renters on the bank of a story

614
00:28:26,973 --> 00:28:29,373
Speaker 4: about an Auckland landlord who tried to fight for months

615
00:28:29,373 --> 00:28:32,493
Speaker 4: to victor's tenants after they stopped paying rent and trashed

616
00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:36,013
Speaker 4: his property. He's calling for changes. What do you say, keys.

617
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Speaker 18: Good day today. So thirty years as a landlord, twenty

618
00:28:40,973 --> 00:28:44,133
Speaker 18: years as a property manager, and then it came along

619
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Speaker 18: came the liberal left, left leaning labor government. Now it's

620
00:28:49,213 --> 00:28:53,813
Speaker 18: been we were since Labor has introduced the legislation that's

621
00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:58,293
Speaker 18: really did to dirt your landlords. The one thing that

622
00:28:58,333 --> 00:29:02,893
Speaker 18: I find reprehensible is that residential landlords is now the

623
00:29:02,893 --> 00:29:07,813
Speaker 18: only business that cannot deduct all of its expenses as

624
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:12,933
Speaker 18: a deduct expense ie interests on the mortgage that you pay.

625
00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:15,293
Speaker 4: I thought they thought they changed, Sorry to jump in

626
00:29:15,333 --> 00:29:17,373
Speaker 4: their keys. I thought they've recently changed that it's going

627
00:29:17,413 --> 00:29:19,453
Speaker 4: to be done gradually. But as it stands at the moment,

628
00:29:19,533 --> 00:29:21,653
Speaker 4: can't you claim eighty percent and then one hundred percent

629
00:29:21,653 --> 00:29:22,053
Speaker 4: next year.

630
00:29:23,173 --> 00:29:25,013
Speaker 18: Are you aware of what happens when a genie gets

631
00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:28,373
Speaker 18: set out of the bag? It's gone, mate, it's out

632
00:29:28,373 --> 00:29:30,293
Speaker 18: of the bit. Yes, I understand it's been reversed by

633
00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:35,413
Speaker 18: the national government. However, as a property manager, my portfolio

634
00:29:35,693 --> 00:29:40,493
Speaker 18: was slashed to half of what it was with a

635
00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:44,853
Speaker 18: regular and long term property investors having to sell properties

636
00:29:44,893 --> 00:29:48,413
Speaker 18: to pay their tax bill. Mum and Dad investors having

637
00:29:48,493 --> 00:29:52,493
Speaker 18: to sell properties to pay your tax bill. The genie

638
00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:54,813
Speaker 18: is out of the bag now, so we can never

639
00:29:55,493 --> 00:30:00,493
Speaker 18: trust labor to not reintroduce it. As for your healthy

640
00:30:00,493 --> 00:30:04,093
Speaker 18: homes that you spent three thousand dollars on, why is

641
00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:09,973
Speaker 18: it that having curtains on single glazed windows, thermal curtains

642
00:30:10,093 --> 00:30:12,813
Speaker 18: on single grazed windows was not a requirement?

643
00:30:13,693 --> 00:30:14,173
Speaker 3: Why is it?

644
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Speaker 18: And I've got no affiliation with this particular company, but

645
00:30:17,213 --> 00:30:20,333
Speaker 18: why is it that shower domes were not required? The

646
00:30:20,373 --> 00:30:23,693
Speaker 18: best things in sliced bread to keep moisture out of

647
00:30:23,693 --> 00:30:25,693
Speaker 18: your bathroom?

648
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I tried to, and look it was the

649
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:30,293
Speaker 4: right thing to do. In the in keys that our

650
00:30:30,493 --> 00:30:34,253
Speaker 4: extractor fan needed replacing, and we replaced that under the legislation.

651
00:30:34,413 --> 00:30:36,533
Speaker 4: But I did try to argue, we've got a shower dome.

652
00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:38,733
Speaker 4: Is that going to be Surely that's good enough. But

653
00:30:38,813 --> 00:30:41,453
Speaker 4: I've got to say I accepted that we needed the

654
00:30:41,933 --> 00:30:42,933
Speaker 4: extractor fan as well.

655
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Speaker 18: You wait for three or four years down the track

656
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Speaker 18: with your property, and then I'd be interested to see

657
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Speaker 18: what your comments are about having dogs in the property.

658
00:30:51,813 --> 00:30:56,013
Speaker 18: I've got pets, I've got dogs, and my dogs do damage. Now,

659
00:30:56,173 --> 00:30:59,373
Speaker 18: when you go to the court, they will say you've

660
00:30:59,373 --> 00:31:04,253
Speaker 18: got a dog, a dog bigs So therefore it's expected

661
00:31:04,493 --> 00:31:06,773
Speaker 18: that your lord will have holes in it. No, you

662
00:31:06,813 --> 00:31:07,973
Speaker 18: can't charge the tenant for it.

663
00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:10,253
Speaker 4: And I'll find with that keys. I mean, if you

664
00:31:10,653 --> 00:31:12,653
Speaker 4: see the state of the lawns down in christ Hetu,

665
00:31:12,693 --> 00:31:14,773
Speaker 4: we're put pretty close to the beach. I gave up

666
00:31:14,813 --> 00:31:17,733
Speaker 4: on those lawns many many years ago. So I get

667
00:31:17,773 --> 00:31:19,213
Speaker 4: all that, and I know we're taking a bit of

668
00:31:19,213 --> 00:31:22,293
Speaker 4: a punt, and I get your insinuation that we're new

669
00:31:22,373 --> 00:31:25,693
Speaker 4: landlords and we're being kind now, and you're quite right.

670
00:31:26,053 --> 00:31:29,373
Speaker 4: If tenants let us down, will I be harden my

671
00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:31,533
Speaker 4: resolve about having dogs on the property.

672
00:31:31,573 --> 00:31:37,333
Speaker 18: Maybe maybe Okay, Look, if you can get through, if

673
00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:40,053
Speaker 18: you can get through the next three years, two years,

674
00:31:40,493 --> 00:31:43,093
Speaker 18: then you will remain a landlord. But what labor have

675
00:31:43,253 --> 00:31:49,293
Speaker 18: done by removing the interesst rate deductibility is insectively lockout, Mama, Dad.

676
00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:53,293
Speaker 3: Landlords now keys listen to be in going back a

677
00:31:53,293 --> 00:31:55,813
Speaker 3: few years. So, in your opinion, the balance has gone

678
00:31:55,853 --> 00:31:58,493
Speaker 3: too far one way, But at one point it felt

679
00:31:58,533 --> 00:32:00,453
Speaker 3: to me like the balance was too far the other way.

680
00:32:00,493 --> 00:32:02,893
Speaker 3: I was renting a property once quite a few years ago,

681
00:32:03,493 --> 00:32:07,053
Speaker 3: and the curtains got covered in mold, and there was

682
00:32:07,213 --> 00:32:11,733
Speaker 3: mold everywhere, and the landlord charged me for the mold

683
00:32:11,893 --> 00:32:14,893
Speaker 3: on the curtains, whereas I argued that I shouldn't be

684
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:18,533
Speaker 3: living in a house that's creating so much black mold.

685
00:32:18,613 --> 00:32:22,253
Speaker 3: Do you think it is behoven to the landlord morally

686
00:32:22,413 --> 00:32:26,093
Speaker 3: to rent out a house that doesn't create so much

687
00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:27,933
Speaker 3: mold that the curtains need to be thrown out?

688
00:32:29,133 --> 00:32:33,653
Speaker 18: Overmanaged housers that comply to healthy homes that develop mold

689
00:32:33,773 --> 00:32:38,133
Speaker 18: because tenants don't know how to live. The reason why

690
00:32:38,173 --> 00:32:41,853
Speaker 18: moisture gets into the property, aside from a very very

691
00:32:42,133 --> 00:32:46,133
Speaker 18: very rare time, it's caused by the house itself. The

692
00:32:46,213 --> 00:32:50,613
Speaker 18: reason why moisture gets into the property is the occupancy. Okay,

693
00:32:50,973 --> 00:32:54,013
Speaker 18: that's the only reason people will cook on guests guest stoves.

694
00:32:54,173 --> 00:32:57,613
Speaker 18: They might we've we've literally had one of these camping

695
00:32:57,733 --> 00:33:00,453
Speaker 18: guess cookers put on top of a brand new stove

696
00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:03,013
Speaker 18: because they want to They prefer to cook and guess.

697
00:33:05,133 --> 00:33:09,133
Speaker 18: So what can you do? What can you do in

698
00:33:09,253 --> 00:33:15,373
Speaker 18: as far as selecting tenants goes? When the no reason

699
00:33:15,533 --> 00:33:19,733
Speaker 18: given notification was removed and then we went straight to

700
00:33:19,773 --> 00:33:23,813
Speaker 18: the police system and we got approved for police checks.

701
00:33:24,173 --> 00:33:26,853
Speaker 18: Not the general one you do on public databases. I'm

702
00:33:26,853 --> 00:33:29,333
Speaker 18: talking about the police checks that you do if you're

703
00:33:29,333 --> 00:33:32,493
Speaker 18: going to be in a kindergarten teacher or in a

704
00:33:32,733 --> 00:33:35,093
Speaker 18: very sensitive area. This is a far a police check

705
00:33:35,093 --> 00:33:38,253
Speaker 18: that goes back and back and back right. And you know,

706
00:33:38,373 --> 00:33:41,093
Speaker 18: when we started advertising that we would do that, we

707
00:33:41,253 --> 00:33:46,693
Speaker 18: found our applications for tenancies dropped dramatically and the quality

708
00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:49,213
Speaker 18: of tenant rose dramatically.

709
00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:52,293
Speaker 3: Now you talk about mum and Dad's getting out of

710
00:33:52,333 --> 00:33:55,493
Speaker 3: the business. Recently, though, Statistics came out and said that

711
00:33:55,613 --> 00:34:00,293
Speaker 3: rents were going down. So that suggested to me that

712
00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:03,653
Speaker 3: there is enough stock in the system.

713
00:34:04,173 --> 00:34:10,693
Speaker 18: Fluctuates, It fluctuates, But what's happening generally speaking, it's rising. Okay,

714
00:34:11,013 --> 00:34:12,933
Speaker 18: you'll get ups and downs and ups and downs. But

715
00:34:13,293 --> 00:34:16,293
Speaker 18: we had the earthquakes and christ Church and that boomed

716
00:34:16,373 --> 00:34:19,453
Speaker 18: rents in christ Church, and then we had a scarcity

717
00:34:19,493 --> 00:34:22,813
Speaker 18: of rentals in the whole country because labor got rid

718
00:34:22,853 --> 00:34:25,172
Speaker 18: of the mum and dad renters. And then of course

719
00:34:25,253 --> 00:34:28,853
Speaker 18: rents boomed again. And just as they go up, you're

720
00:34:28,893 --> 00:34:30,493
Speaker 18: going to have a weaverit of coming down and up

721
00:34:30,533 --> 00:34:30,853
Speaker 18: and down.

722
00:34:31,813 --> 00:34:36,293
Speaker 3: So keys, just if you're someone like me that was

723
00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:38,253
Speaker 3: looking at the possibility of renting out a house but

724
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,293
Speaker 3: then looked at in it and listened to the news,

725
00:34:40,373 --> 00:34:44,413
Speaker 3: and from what I'd heard, decided it was just too

726
00:34:44,533 --> 00:34:46,813
Speaker 3: much of a pain in the butt to do it

727
00:34:47,173 --> 00:34:49,133
Speaker 3: and pulled it out. Do you think and pulled out

728
00:34:49,133 --> 00:34:50,373
Speaker 3: of it? Do you think I would made the right

729
00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:51,973
Speaker 3: decision for a person that was going to rent out

730
00:34:51,973 --> 00:34:52,493
Speaker 3: one property.

731
00:34:53,893 --> 00:34:56,652
Speaker 18: What I have personally done is sold off all of

732
00:34:56,653 --> 00:35:00,652
Speaker 18: my personal residential rentals and gone into small easy care

733
00:35:00,653 --> 00:35:07,493
Speaker 18: commercial because the interest is deductibility. The throat strangling legislation

734
00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:10,333
Speaker 18: of the Residential Tennancy's Act is not for you, and

735
00:35:10,453 --> 00:35:13,933
Speaker 18: my investment is more secure, So yeah, for you, I'd

736
00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:15,813
Speaker 18: wait for another six to five months and sell the

737
00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:18,973
Speaker 18: house mate because it's in a depressed state at the time.

738
00:35:19,053 --> 00:35:21,133
Speaker 18: With the interstrates coming down, I'd get out of it

739
00:35:21,133 --> 00:35:22,093
Speaker 18: as fast as i could run.

740
00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:23,293
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

741
00:35:23,653 --> 00:35:24,292
Speaker 3: Advice Keys.

742
00:35:24,413 --> 00:35:26,013
Speaker 4: It is ten to two.

743
00:35:27,973 --> 00:35:31,293
Speaker 1: Matt eat Taylor Adams speaking your calls on eight hundred

744
00:35:31,293 --> 00:35:35,333
Speaker 1: and eighty madd Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

745
00:35:34,733 --> 00:35:37,692
Speaker 4: News DOGSB, News Dogs B seven to two.

746
00:35:38,213 --> 00:35:40,652
Speaker 3: Peter, you're a landlord and a tenant, so you can

747
00:35:40,693 --> 00:35:42,853
Speaker 3: see both sides of the situation.

748
00:35:43,733 --> 00:35:46,453
Speaker 7: We can see both sides of it. The biggest thing

749
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:49,693
Speaker 7: what we did is we actually moved north up to

750
00:35:49,693 --> 00:35:52,133
Speaker 7: the christ at Truthquakes. We've got a property manager during

751
00:35:52,453 --> 00:35:56,013
Speaker 7: YEP and we were totally ripped off. Really, we had

752
00:35:56,053 --> 00:35:59,573
Speaker 7: a real bad encounter with property managers. So what we

753
00:35:59,693 --> 00:36:01,773
Speaker 7: do now, rather than going through a property manager, we

754
00:36:01,893 --> 00:36:04,733
Speaker 7: pay a property minutger a finders feed for our tenant

755
00:36:05,253 --> 00:36:07,413
Speaker 7: to find a tenant and they do all the hard

756
00:36:07,613 --> 00:36:10,973
Speaker 7: work for you, and they put a private investigator to

757
00:36:11,053 --> 00:36:16,013
Speaker 7: shame what they can find. And yet we're the one

758
00:36:16,053 --> 00:36:19,573
Speaker 7: we can rent. That's what you pay them. And yeah,

759
00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:22,893
Speaker 7: both times we've done that, we've had amazing tenants. In fact,

760
00:36:22,893 --> 00:36:28,533
Speaker 7: we've got tenants at the moment in our wee house. Yeah,

761
00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:30,253
Speaker 7: you can't fault them really, and so.

762
00:36:30,293 --> 00:36:32,773
Speaker 4: After that you take over the management of the property. Peter,

763
00:36:32,893 --> 00:36:34,693
Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying, They get you and you

764
00:36:34,773 --> 00:36:35,533
Speaker 4: take over from there.

765
00:36:36,293 --> 00:36:40,172
Speaker 7: Yep, we take over from there. Interesting and yeah, you're

766
00:36:40,253 --> 00:36:43,093
Speaker 7: healthy homes saying it just seems like different provinces have

767
00:36:43,213 --> 00:36:46,053
Speaker 7: different rules. Really, because we got our healthy home certificate.

768
00:36:47,053 --> 00:36:49,013
Speaker 7: We would have talked when the guy came and do

769
00:36:49,053 --> 00:36:52,933
Speaker 7: the expection. He told me to do one thing and

770
00:36:52,973 --> 00:36:54,253
Speaker 7: he says, I know you're going to do it, and

771
00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:57,733
Speaker 7: that was it, and we probably talked more about sport

772
00:36:57,053 --> 00:36:59,893
Speaker 7: and anything else really exactly, Peter.

773
00:37:00,133 --> 00:37:02,413
Speaker 3: Hey, Peter, how do you go with the tough conversations

774
00:37:02,613 --> 00:37:06,093
Speaker 3: as a landlord when you have to confront tenants when

775
00:37:06,133 --> 00:37:08,692
Speaker 3: they do something that you're not one.

776
00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:14,053
Speaker 7: Okay, So our previous tenant, mister rent and up until then,

777
00:37:14,133 --> 00:37:15,893
Speaker 7: she'd been amazing and she was going through a bit

778
00:37:15,893 --> 00:37:18,013
Speaker 7: of stuff and we just rather than coming and he

779
00:37:18,093 --> 00:37:21,172
Speaker 7: be handed, we just said, hey, this is not your standard. Hey,

780
00:37:21,253 --> 00:37:23,973
Speaker 7: we know that you're you know, you know, we know

781
00:37:24,053 --> 00:37:25,693
Speaker 7: that things have been a bit tough, but this is

782
00:37:25,733 --> 00:37:27,493
Speaker 7: not the way that you do life. And we know

783
00:37:27,573 --> 00:37:30,093
Speaker 7: that you're a person of great character. And of course

784
00:37:30,093 --> 00:37:31,933
Speaker 7: when you sort of play on the heartstrings like that,

785
00:37:32,053 --> 00:37:34,573
Speaker 7: suddenly everything just they call me socks up nine percent

786
00:37:34,613 --> 00:37:36,533
Speaker 7: at the time and do it real well.

787
00:37:36,613 --> 00:37:37,133
Speaker 10: Yeah, just.

788
00:37:38,733 --> 00:37:41,013
Speaker 7: And you also look after them and we normally buy

789
00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:43,652
Speaker 7: them as the Christmas gift and stuff like that.

790
00:37:43,693 --> 00:37:46,093
Speaker 4: It's nice, yeah, because if.

791
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,213
Speaker 7: A good tenant is a worthy weight in gold, and

792
00:37:48,293 --> 00:37:51,413
Speaker 7: you've just got to reward them. And if something needs

793
00:37:51,413 --> 00:37:53,172
Speaker 7: to get fixed, you make sure you do it within

794
00:37:54,613 --> 00:37:55,533
Speaker 7: as fast as you can.

795
00:37:55,653 --> 00:37:59,573
Speaker 3: Really, it's like happy wife, happy life. Yeah, happy tenant,

796
00:37:59,573 --> 00:38:00,693
Speaker 3: happy land exactly.

797
00:38:00,733 --> 00:38:03,853
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Peter Kevin. We've got about sixty seconds,

798
00:38:03,853 --> 00:38:04,573
Speaker 4: my friend, go for it.

799
00:38:05,973 --> 00:38:09,293
Speaker 19: Just one quick thing I do is an I'd recommend

800
00:38:09,333 --> 00:38:11,253
Speaker 19: that you go and visit the if you've got lieutenants

801
00:38:11,253 --> 00:38:13,333
Speaker 19: moving in, visit their home before.

802
00:38:13,293 --> 00:38:16,573
Speaker 13: Before they just to see how they live. It saved me.

803
00:38:17,093 --> 00:38:18,293
Speaker 20: It's just pop round.

804
00:38:18,973 --> 00:38:21,093
Speaker 19: Oh, just about a science's agreement here, how a bottle

805
00:38:21,133 --> 00:38:28,493
Speaker 19: of wine? Just welcome to you live here, okay. I

806
00:38:28,613 --> 00:38:31,253
Speaker 19: just the other thing, I can't understand why you can

807
00:38:31,373 --> 00:38:33,253
Speaker 19: damage someone's house to that accent that I saw on

808
00:38:33,293 --> 00:38:36,013
Speaker 19: TV three. And it's not a criminal offense. I know

809
00:38:36,053 --> 00:38:38,413
Speaker 19: if they say it's civil, it's not. If I did

810
00:38:38,453 --> 00:38:41,933
Speaker 19: that in your environment, in your workplace, I'd be in jail.

811
00:38:42,773 --> 00:38:45,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And it goes back to that

812
00:38:45,413 --> 00:38:48,013
Speaker 4: story about the Auckland landlord whose house has been trashed

813
00:38:48,253 --> 00:38:50,373
Speaker 4: after he couldn't get his tenants out right. Very good

814
00:38:50,413 --> 00:38:53,973
Speaker 4: discussion after two o'clock. Yeah, So the American elections on

815
00:38:54,053 --> 00:38:56,533
Speaker 4: right now. We want to ask a broader question about America.

816
00:38:56,613 --> 00:38:58,973
Speaker 4: Is it still the most influential country in the world.

817
00:38:58,973 --> 00:39:00,973
Speaker 4: New Zealand has been fixated with it for the longest

818
00:39:00,973 --> 00:39:03,133
Speaker 4: time in the movies, the food, the culture, the world economy,

819
00:39:03,293 --> 00:39:04,853
Speaker 4: social media, the big companies.

820
00:39:05,053 --> 00:39:06,853
Speaker 3: But is it still the world leader? If not, who

821
00:39:07,133 --> 00:39:08,692
Speaker 3: and if it's waning, is that a bad thing?

822
00:39:08,893 --> 00:39:11,652
Speaker 4: Looking forward to this discussion and we will cross live

823
00:39:11,733 --> 00:39:14,013
Speaker 4: to Mitch McCann out of Michigan, one of the major

824
00:39:14,053 --> 00:39:15,133
Speaker 4: battleground states.

825
00:39:15,373 --> 00:39:17,133
Speaker 3: Results are stun to come thru.

826
00:39:17,213 --> 00:39:18,813
Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

827
00:39:18,853 --> 00:39:21,252
Speaker 4: number to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.

828
00:39:21,333 --> 00:39:24,613
Speaker 4: Very good afternoons you three minutes to two New Sport

829
00:39:24,693 --> 00:39:30,333
Speaker 4: and weather coming up.

830
00:39:34,773 --> 00:39:38,453
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon against Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

831
00:39:38,493 --> 00:39:42,413
Speaker 1: Afternoons New for twenty twenty four News Talk ZIB.

832
00:39:43,253 --> 00:39:46,453
Speaker 4: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. Here

833
00:39:46,533 --> 00:39:50,293
Speaker 4: we go, the revots are rolling in now woo. What's

834
00:39:50,293 --> 00:39:53,173
Speaker 4: an exciting day. Yeah, So, just to give you the latest,

835
00:39:53,213 --> 00:39:55,773
Speaker 4: this is seeing inn projections as it stands at the moment.

836
00:39:55,813 --> 00:40:00,773
Speaker 4: Trump wins Missouri, Trump wins Oklahoma, Trump wins Alabamas, Harris

837
00:40:00,853 --> 00:40:04,333
Speaker 4: Harris wins Massachusetts, Harris wins the district of Columbia, Trump

838
00:40:04,373 --> 00:40:07,973
Speaker 4: wins Tennessee, Harris winds Maryland, and Trump wins Florida. So

839
00:40:08,013 --> 00:40:11,373
Speaker 4: there projections at this stage that brings it to in

840
00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:15,692
Speaker 4: terms of electoral votes ninety to Trump versus Harris's twenty seven.

841
00:40:15,733 --> 00:40:19,413
Speaker 3: It's interesting because in recent elections Florida has been a

842
00:40:19,573 --> 00:40:22,853
Speaker 3: swing state almost but gone very early to Trump.

843
00:40:22,973 --> 00:40:25,413
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. So we're going to keep bringing you the

844
00:40:25,573 --> 00:40:28,853
Speaker 4: latest as the afternoon progresses, and very shortly we're going

845
00:40:28,893 --> 00:40:31,973
Speaker 4: to cross live to Mitch McCann out of Michigan, one

846
00:40:32,013 --> 00:40:34,853
Speaker 4: of the big battleground states, to get his view on

847
00:40:34,893 --> 00:40:36,973
Speaker 4: what's happening on the ground, how it's looking at Michigan.

848
00:40:37,373 --> 00:40:39,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, and later on I'm going to nip down to

849
00:40:39,333 --> 00:40:43,413
Speaker 3: the America Chamber of Commerce in New Zealand's election celebration

850
00:40:43,533 --> 00:40:45,812
Speaker 3: at the Empire am CHAM. I'm going to head down

851
00:40:45,853 --> 00:40:48,093
Speaker 3: there for a bear and a hot dog and a

852
00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:51,973
Speaker 3: chat with the Consul general at the US Consulate in Auckland, Ulissa,

853
00:40:51,973 --> 00:40:55,213
Speaker 3: You'll be staying back up here, Tyler, and I'll be

854
00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:59,413
Speaker 3: putting on an American flag hat and jumper and heading

855
00:40:59,453 --> 00:41:00,613
Speaker 3: down there and ripping it up.

856
00:41:00,693 --> 00:41:02,292
Speaker 4: Yeah, just bring me back some of the goods, which

857
00:41:02,613 --> 00:41:05,413
Speaker 4: that is just after three o'clock, but right now we

858
00:41:05,493 --> 00:41:07,652
Speaker 4: do want to have a chat on a topic that's

859
00:41:07,693 --> 00:41:08,813
Speaker 4: related to the election.

860
00:41:09,013 --> 00:41:12,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Is America still the most influential country

861
00:41:12,773 --> 00:41:17,093
Speaker 3: in the world New Zealand. We have been focused on

862
00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:21,533
Speaker 3: America for the longest time in terms of movies, the food,

863
00:41:21,613 --> 00:41:25,813
Speaker 3: the culture, the world economy, social media has all been

864
00:41:25,853 --> 00:41:28,373
Speaker 3: generated out of there. Most of the social media companies

865
00:41:28,413 --> 00:41:30,813
Speaker 3: until TikTok, we're generated out of America. But still the

866
00:41:30,813 --> 00:41:34,053
Speaker 3: content on TikTok is primarily American. For New Zealanders. There's

867
00:41:34,093 --> 00:41:37,693
Speaker 3: the huge companies Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, and then of course

868
00:41:37,773 --> 00:41:43,013
Speaker 3: the older ones McDonald's and look, Meta is obviously a

869
00:41:43,093 --> 00:41:46,133
Speaker 3: huge player as well in New Zealand. But is America

870
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:52,172
Speaker 3: still the world leader? Is it still the most influential

871
00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:54,693
Speaker 3: country for Keiwis it used to be Britain for the

872
00:41:54,693 --> 00:41:57,373
Speaker 3: longest time, then it was clearly America. But is it

873
00:41:57,573 --> 00:42:01,333
Speaker 3: still holding that place for New Zealanders? And if not, who?

874
00:42:01,693 --> 00:42:04,933
Speaker 3: And if America's influence is waning in New Zealand, is

875
00:42:04,933 --> 00:42:09,173
Speaker 3: that a bad thing for our country or and is

876
00:42:09,213 --> 00:42:11,293
Speaker 3: it a bad thing for the world of America's influence

877
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:14,333
Speaker 3: is waning. It is a huge democracy, and it has

878
00:42:14,333 --> 00:42:17,533
Speaker 3: its problems. But one of the reasons why America has

879
00:42:17,613 --> 00:42:19,773
Speaker 3: problems and we're so fixated on it, is because of

880
00:42:20,173 --> 00:42:22,853
Speaker 3: free speech over there, and everything is laid bare over

881
00:42:22,893 --> 00:42:24,973
Speaker 3: there because of their constitution. We see the good and

882
00:42:25,013 --> 00:42:27,053
Speaker 3: the bad. You can look at other countries and they

883
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:29,813
Speaker 3: shut down the bad. But America may look like a

884
00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:32,333
Speaker 3: rolling shehamzle. But I think it is the best rolling

885
00:42:32,373 --> 00:42:35,133
Speaker 3: shamzle in the world still. And I've spent a bit

886
00:42:35,173 --> 00:42:39,093
Speaker 3: of time in America, and I love the place. I've

887
00:42:39,093 --> 00:42:41,933
Speaker 3: been all over the shop there, and every different part

888
00:42:41,933 --> 00:42:47,453
Speaker 3: of America has a different vibe, a different spirit, different landscape,

889
00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:53,813
Speaker 3: different architecture. It is just a huge, huge, huge smortgage

890
00:42:53,853 --> 00:42:55,813
Speaker 3: board of different amazing experiences.

891
00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:58,373
Speaker 4: I'm with you the times that I've been to America.

892
00:42:58,653 --> 00:43:01,133
Speaker 4: The America that you visit in person, on the ground,

893
00:43:01,133 --> 00:43:03,893
Speaker 4: whatever state you're in, is vastly different to the America

894
00:43:03,973 --> 00:43:06,853
Speaker 4: we see on our TV screens. It is just very different.

895
00:43:06,893 --> 00:43:11,213
Speaker 4: They are very friendly people, the welcoming in Texas of

896
00:43:11,253 --> 00:43:14,213
Speaker 4: all places, you know, I was, and I feel a

897
00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:16,453
Speaker 4: bit bad saying this now, but I had my reservations

898
00:43:16,493 --> 00:43:19,773
Speaker 4: about Texas, and they went there the friendliest people you

899
00:43:19,813 --> 00:43:20,333
Speaker 4: come across.

900
00:43:20,413 --> 00:43:23,093
Speaker 3: Austin, Texas is one of my favorite cities in the world.

901
00:43:23,093 --> 00:43:23,373
Speaker 4: Correct.

902
00:43:23,413 --> 00:43:24,893
Speaker 3: But if we've overben and then you go to the

903
00:43:25,013 --> 00:43:27,053
Speaker 3: likes of Memphis, if you're keeping it down south as well,

904
00:43:27,093 --> 00:43:31,373
Speaker 3: I think Memphis is a fantastic city. The living history there,

905
00:43:31,413 --> 00:43:34,493
Speaker 3: the music, the culture, It's incredible. New York City, you

906
00:43:34,493 --> 00:43:37,893
Speaker 3: can't get better. Chicago. I've had some great times in Chicago.

907
00:43:37,893 --> 00:43:39,773
Speaker 4: I'd love to go. I never been to Chicago. Who

908
00:43:39,853 --> 00:43:40,613
Speaker 4: good things about it?

909
00:43:40,813 --> 00:43:43,253
Speaker 3: Yep, fantastic And look I got to La a lot.

910
00:43:43,253 --> 00:43:46,293
Speaker 3: The La Dodge is my favorite sports team in the world.

911
00:43:46,373 --> 00:43:48,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, looking forward to

912
00:43:48,933 --> 00:43:51,213
Speaker 4: this discussion. Where is America's place in the world in

913
00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:54,133
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, No doubt they've had some pr issues

914
00:43:54,173 --> 00:43:56,973
Speaker 4: over the last eight years. How do you view America now?

915
00:43:57,333 --> 00:44:00,533
Speaker 4: And are we more Americanized compared to our British roots.

916
00:44:00,573 --> 00:44:03,212
Speaker 4: I'd say absolutely we are, but as that starting to change.

917
00:44:03,293 --> 00:44:05,053
Speaker 4: Love to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

918
00:44:05,093 --> 00:44:07,772
Speaker 4: eighty is number to coo. It is twelve past two.

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Speaker 4: Very short we will cross live to Michigan and have

920
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Speaker 4: a chat to Mitch McCann. Great heavy company. You're listening

921
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Speaker 4: to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 1: You're a new home of Afternoon Talk and Tayler Adams

923
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Speaker 1: Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 4: News Talk ZB. We're just touching base with Mitch McCann.

925
00:44:27,853 --> 00:44:30,533
Speaker 4: He is in Michigan as we speak, one of the

926
00:44:30,613 --> 00:44:33,253
Speaker 4: battleground states, so looking forward to having a chat with him.

927
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Speaker 4: Very shortly. A couple of techs on the topic.

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Speaker 3: America ate a democracy. It's a constitutional republic, United States

929
00:44:38,933 --> 00:44:41,453
Speaker 3: of America. That's a really interesting thing because there have

930
00:44:41,533 --> 00:44:43,933
Speaker 3: been calls because one side will win the popular vote,

931
00:44:43,933 --> 00:44:47,253
Speaker 3: but not the election because of the electoral college. But

932
00:44:47,253 --> 00:44:49,213
Speaker 3: if you throw at the electoral college, why would the

933
00:44:49,213 --> 00:44:51,212
Speaker 3: small states have anything to do with the United States.

934
00:44:51,213 --> 00:44:53,493
Speaker 3: If you throw out the electoral college, you throw out

935
00:44:53,493 --> 00:44:54,133
Speaker 3: the United States.

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00:44:54,133 --> 00:44:57,013
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Ye, absolutely. Now let's go live to

937
00:44:57,053 --> 00:45:00,333
Speaker 4: our US correspondent Mitch McCann out of Michigan. Mitch, A

938
00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:01,253
Speaker 4: very good evening to.

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Speaker 13: You, good evening to win. I have escaped the party

940
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:07,533
Speaker 13: here in Michigan to talk to you. All I can

941
00:45:07,533 --> 00:45:09,893
Speaker 13: hear is Earth didn't fire in the background. I'm not

942
00:45:09,893 --> 00:45:11,893
Speaker 13: sure if you can hear it, but I'm scared to

943
00:45:11,893 --> 00:45:12,253
Speaker 13: talk to you.

944
00:45:12,253 --> 00:45:12,853
Speaker 21: How are you both?

945
00:45:13,133 --> 00:45:15,173
Speaker 3: Fantastic? What a great band? What is the feeding like

946
00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:16,533
Speaker 3: on the ground over there? Is it tents?

947
00:45:18,253 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 4: Yeah?

948
00:45:18,813 --> 00:45:21,013
Speaker 13: It is tense, although we're at an election party where

949
00:45:21,013 --> 00:45:23,373
Speaker 13: people have tuned up but dazzled, are ready to party tonight,

950
00:45:23,493 --> 00:45:26,333
Speaker 13: hoping here in Michigan that they actually can win this state.

951
00:45:26,373 --> 00:45:29,173
Speaker 13: It's really critical for the Democrats where we are for

952
00:45:29,253 --> 00:45:32,173
Speaker 13: them to really win the presidency. But you know, speaking

953
00:45:32,213 --> 00:45:34,292
Speaker 13: to people at home in New York, which is around

954
00:45:34,333 --> 00:45:36,573
Speaker 13: the country in the last couple of weeks, there is

955
00:45:36,613 --> 00:45:39,212
Speaker 13: a feeling of tension. There is a feeling of anxiousness.

956
00:45:39,293 --> 00:45:42,292
Speaker 13: I think people are worried about what's going to happen,

957
00:45:42,333 --> 00:45:45,253
Speaker 13: particularly Democrats who really fear Donald Trump. You know, I

958
00:45:45,293 --> 00:45:47,293
Speaker 13: live in New York, so it's a democratic state, so

959
00:45:47,613 --> 00:45:49,253
Speaker 13: you know, there's a lot of bias there. But people

960
00:45:49,253 --> 00:45:52,093
Speaker 13: are really worried about Donald Trump returning to power in

961
00:45:52,173 --> 00:45:54,373
Speaker 13: a couple of hours. You know, that might be the reality.

962
00:45:54,413 --> 00:45:55,533
Speaker 13: That's a simple fact.

963
00:45:55,813 --> 00:45:58,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the early feeling in which way the race

964
00:45:58,573 --> 00:46:01,212
Speaker 3: is going. I know it's early doors, but what's the.

965
00:46:01,253 --> 00:46:05,093
Speaker 13: Vibe, Well, the vibers at the moment that you know,

966
00:46:05,133 --> 00:46:07,173
Speaker 13: Donald Trump has had a big win in the state

967
00:46:07,173 --> 00:46:09,653
Speaker 13: of Florida. It was expected, but some of the Democrats

968
00:46:09,693 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 13: had hoped that they could flip the state of Florida

969
00:46:11,853 --> 00:46:14,373
Speaker 13: because of abortion is on the ballot there, so they

970
00:46:14,373 --> 00:46:17,173
Speaker 13: were there trying to campaign hoping they could win Florida.

971
00:46:17,293 --> 00:46:19,172
Speaker 13: So it's gone to Donald Trump. That's an early win

972
00:46:19,253 --> 00:46:21,293
Speaker 13: for him, but it's too close to call in some

973
00:46:21,413 --> 00:46:24,973
Speaker 13: of these big states. Now Pennsylvania has started to post

974
00:46:25,013 --> 00:46:27,613
Speaker 13: some of its numbers. It's heavily in favor of Kamala

975
00:46:27,693 --> 00:46:30,053
Speaker 13: Harris at the moment, but that's because those numbers are

976
00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:34,013
Speaker 13: coming from Philadelphia, which would usually favor the Democrats. When

977
00:46:34,013 --> 00:46:37,212
Speaker 13: the numbers start coming in from the rural areas of Pennsylvania,

978
00:46:37,293 --> 00:46:40,652
Speaker 13: we can expect it to get a lot closer. In Pennsylvania,

979
00:46:40,773 --> 00:46:43,293
Speaker 13: that is the state that the person who wins that

980
00:46:43,373 --> 00:46:45,333
Speaker 13: has the best chance of winning the election. It has

981
00:46:45,453 --> 00:46:48,973
Speaker 13: nineteen Electoral College votes. It is massive, So we'll probably

982
00:46:49,013 --> 00:46:51,252
Speaker 13: find out some of these big results in the next

983
00:46:51,253 --> 00:46:53,093
Speaker 13: couple of hours. And yeah, there is a lot of

984
00:46:53,213 --> 00:46:54,133
Speaker 13: tension around that.

985
00:46:55,013 --> 00:46:58,813
Speaker 3: Much abortion you mentioned before, and that's been a big

986
00:46:58,893 --> 00:47:03,053
Speaker 3: part of the Democratic campaign. But what are the main

987
00:47:03,133 --> 00:47:07,013
Speaker 3: issues because it seems to me that the economy and

988
00:47:07,253 --> 00:47:11,133
Speaker 3: immigration are really making gains for Trump.

989
00:47:12,813 --> 00:47:14,573
Speaker 13: You know, I've been watching this for a long time now.

990
00:47:14,613 --> 00:47:17,893
Speaker 13: I definitely think they are the two most important issues

991
00:47:17,933 --> 00:47:20,653
Speaker 13: in this election. Nex start with the economy. Eighty percent

992
00:47:20,693 --> 00:47:24,212
Speaker 13: of Americans, according to Pew Research, view the economy as

993
00:47:24,213 --> 00:47:26,693
Speaker 13: a top issue in this election. And it's interesting to

994
00:47:26,693 --> 00:47:28,813
Speaker 13: know people will still vote for Donald Trump even if

995
00:47:28,813 --> 00:47:31,093
Speaker 13: they don't like him, because they feel he was good

996
00:47:31,093 --> 00:47:34,173
Speaker 13: for the economy. I went and visited a family in Lansing,

997
00:47:34,213 --> 00:47:36,373
Speaker 13: Michigan a couple of weeks ago, and I talked to

998
00:47:36,453 --> 00:47:38,533
Speaker 13: a man in his living room and he said to me, look,

999
00:47:38,573 --> 00:47:40,853
Speaker 13: I don't really like him. I wouldn't invite him for

1000
00:47:40,893 --> 00:47:43,053
Speaker 13: dinner at my house with my family, but he was

1001
00:47:43,093 --> 00:47:45,093
Speaker 13: good for the economy. So I'm going to vote for him.

1002
00:47:45,093 --> 00:47:48,053
Speaker 13: And it just shows you that people really are putting that,

1003
00:47:49,373 --> 00:47:52,133
Speaker 13: you know, the democracy thing a little bit to the

1004
00:47:52,133 --> 00:47:54,333
Speaker 13: back seat because they care so much about the economy.

1005
00:47:54,333 --> 00:47:56,853
Speaker 13: And so that's where Donald Trump is strong. Abortion is

1006
00:47:56,853 --> 00:47:59,293
Speaker 13: probably the third or fourth most important issue. The Democrats

1007
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,653
Speaker 13: have been going really hard on it. It's going to

1008
00:48:01,693 --> 00:48:05,172
Speaker 13: be really interesting tonight because if Kamala Harris wins, I think, well,

1009
00:48:05,453 --> 00:48:07,692
Speaker 13: that will show how important that issue is. They've been

1010
00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:10,893
Speaker 13: really trying to get women out to vote on that issue.

1011
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:12,253
Speaker 13: So you know, it remains to be seen.

1012
00:48:12,293 --> 00:48:12,933
Speaker 9: It'll be interesting.

1013
00:48:13,093 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 4: You mentioned before the anxiousness of some of the people

1014
00:48:16,453 --> 00:48:20,053
Speaker 4: that you've spoken to. Whatever way it goes, maybe tonight,

1015
00:48:20,093 --> 00:48:21,893
Speaker 4: maybe in the next few days, maybe in the next

1016
00:48:21,893 --> 00:48:24,173
Speaker 4: few weeks. Do you think there is the potential for

1017
00:48:24,773 --> 00:48:25,973
Speaker 4: unrest after this election?

1018
00:48:26,093 --> 00:48:29,693
Speaker 13: Mitch, yeah, I think there is, and you know, a

1019
00:48:29,693 --> 00:48:32,813
Speaker 13: lot of states have been preparing for that. I've seen businesses,

1020
00:48:33,093 --> 00:48:36,213
Speaker 13: some businesses have been boarded up in Washington, DC, just

1021
00:48:36,253 --> 00:48:38,493
Speaker 13: in case there are protests or riots and that sort

1022
00:48:38,493 --> 00:48:40,613
Speaker 13: of thing. I know the Secretary of State here in

1023
00:48:40,653 --> 00:48:43,333
Speaker 13: Michigan has been warning people that they are prepared in

1024
00:48:43,373 --> 00:48:45,813
Speaker 13: case there is unrest. So I haven't seen anything to

1025
00:48:45,933 --> 00:48:48,653
Speaker 13: indicate that just yet. You know, we saw January sixth.

1026
00:48:48,693 --> 00:48:50,893
Speaker 13: Not many people knew that was going to happen, and

1027
00:48:50,893 --> 00:48:52,493
Speaker 13: then it happened. So I think they've got to be

1028
00:48:52,573 --> 00:48:55,773
Speaker 13: prepared for it. But you know, there's very possible anything

1029
00:48:55,813 --> 00:48:57,652
Speaker 13: can happen. Look what happened in twenty twenty one.

1030
00:48:58,293 --> 00:49:01,533
Speaker 3: Now Michigan. You're on the ground in Michigan talking about unrest.

1031
00:49:01,933 --> 00:49:04,652
Speaker 3: Are you working for the whole night or is an

1032
00:49:04,693 --> 00:49:06,493
Speaker 3: opportunity for you to get out and cut some tracks

1033
00:49:06,533 --> 00:49:08,213
Speaker 3: on the dance floor to Earth Wind and Fire.

1034
00:49:10,413 --> 00:49:12,453
Speaker 13: There is a free flowing bar here and every time

1035
00:49:12,453 --> 00:49:14,893
Speaker 13: I look at it, I think that's probably a secable offense.

1036
00:49:14,933 --> 00:49:17,213
Speaker 13: I'm not going to go there. I won't be cutting shapes,

1037
00:49:17,253 --> 00:49:19,413
Speaker 13: but if I wasn't working, i'd be first in line.

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00:49:19,733 --> 00:49:22,933
Speaker 4: Good Man Yet Love September, Great Man, Earthwind and find It.

1039
00:49:23,493 --> 00:49:25,733
Speaker 4: Mitch McCann, thank you very much. Good luck for tonight,

1040
00:49:25,773 --> 00:49:28,253
Speaker 4: we'll chat again soon. That is Mitch McCann, a US

1041
00:49:28,293 --> 00:49:31,453
Speaker 4: correspondent out of Michigan. Right after the break, we're going

1042
00:49:31,493 --> 00:49:35,013
Speaker 4: to pick up our discussion about the influence of America

1043
00:49:35,053 --> 00:49:37,453
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four Love to Hear from You. Is

1044
00:49:37,493 --> 00:49:40,053
Speaker 4: it still the greatest country in the world in terms

1045
00:49:40,093 --> 00:49:43,533
Speaker 4: of the economy, in terms of entertainment, in terms of finance,

1046
00:49:43,773 --> 00:49:46,293
Speaker 4: or is it starting to wane? And if it is waning,

1047
00:49:46,453 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 4: what does that mean? Love to Hear from You. Oh,

1048
00:49:48,293 --> 00:49:50,573
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is number to call. It

1049
00:49:50,733 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 4: is nineteen past two.

1050
00:49:56,933 --> 00:50:00,613
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1051
00:50:00,653 --> 00:50:02,293
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk said the.

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Speaker 4: Twenty two past two.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed, but there's a large

1054
00:50:06,773 --> 00:50:10,212
Speaker 3: US election on right at the moment, and look, we're

1055
00:50:10,213 --> 00:50:12,093
Speaker 3: going to keep you up to date with any breaking

1056
00:50:12,173 --> 00:50:14,533
Speaker 3: news as it comes to hand, and we'll be going

1057
00:50:14,573 --> 00:50:17,213
Speaker 3: live back to the States after three. Got a bunch

1058
00:50:17,293 --> 00:50:19,453
Speaker 3: planned around that election, But right now we want to

1059
00:50:19,453 --> 00:50:22,693
Speaker 3: talk about a sort of wider issue around America. Is

1060
00:50:22,693 --> 00:50:24,893
Speaker 3: it still the most influential country in the world. We've

1061
00:50:24,893 --> 00:50:28,493
Speaker 3: been fixated for the longest time movies, food culture, world economy,

1062
00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:33,693
Speaker 3: McDonald's burg and KFC, superheroes, social media, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Meta,

1063
00:50:33,733 --> 00:50:38,813
Speaker 3: even evil social media companies like TikToker still spewing most

1064
00:50:38,813 --> 00:50:41,333
Speaker 3: of their content out of the States into America. It's

1065
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:43,053
Speaker 3: got its problems in America, But is it still the

1066
00:50:43,053 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 3: world leader? Is it still the most influential? If not,

1067
00:50:45,573 --> 00:50:48,053
Speaker 3: who and if it's waning, is that a bad thing

1068
00:50:48,093 --> 00:50:50,772
Speaker 3: for New Zealand and the world? Eight hundred and eighty

1069
00:50:50,773 --> 00:50:53,253
Speaker 3: ten to eighty, rob what's your thoughts?

1070
00:50:53,933 --> 00:50:56,973
Speaker 20: Absolutely, they're the biggest superpower in the world and we

1071
00:50:57,053 --> 00:50:59,333
Speaker 20: need to keep them that way because when you look

1072
00:50:59,373 --> 00:51:00,813
Speaker 20: at all the walls that we've had in the last

1073
00:51:01,093 --> 00:51:05,733
Speaker 20: twenty years, these Americans have been at the forefront on

1074
00:51:05,933 --> 00:51:09,133
Speaker 20: so we actually need to get them, well, not under control,

1075
00:51:09,173 --> 00:51:11,292
Speaker 20: but Donald Nupper's basically said that he's going to stop

1076
00:51:11,333 --> 00:51:14,533
Speaker 20: all the wars. We need that.

1077
00:51:15,653 --> 00:51:18,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, someone here is saying there there that

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00:51:18,973 --> 00:51:21,773
Speaker 3: America is a corrupt and bankrupt The average public debt

1079
00:51:21,813 --> 00:51:24,373
Speaker 3: per capita is one hundred and three one thousand American

1080
00:51:24,413 --> 00:51:27,493
Speaker 3: dollars per year. But I guess what country isn't corrupt

1081
00:51:27,573 --> 00:51:29,893
Speaker 3: and close to bankrupt.

1082
00:51:29,373 --> 00:51:30,093
Speaker 4: At the moment y.

1083
00:51:30,293 --> 00:51:33,013
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, we're certainly going down that cute as well,

1084
00:51:33,053 --> 00:51:36,013
Speaker 20: aren't we. I Mean, you look at the indebtedness that

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Speaker 20: we have now after the last government. We're high walls.

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Speaker 20: But the biggest issue for me personally is immigrations. So

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Speaker 20: I look at the amount of the legal immigration that

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00:51:46,293 --> 00:51:49,613
Speaker 20: they've had into America. That that happens here, God, we'd

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Speaker 20: be swamped. Well, just to be swamped.

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Speaker 4: Just to your point about which country carries the big

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00:51:53,773 --> 00:51:56,173
Speaker 4: stick and the you know, the influence when it comes around,

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00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:59,253
Speaker 4: as you say, wars or military strength, I agree with you,

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00:51:59,333 --> 00:52:02,573
Speaker 4: Rob that it absolutely should be America because the alternatives

1094
00:52:02,573 --> 00:52:05,853
Speaker 4: in terms of the superpowers in the world are not great.

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00:52:06,053 --> 00:52:08,773
Speaker 4: Not great for New Zealand, No, exactly exact.

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Speaker 20: I'm off to the States six Friday, and I'm looking

1097
00:52:12,693 --> 00:52:18,453
Speaker 20: forward to a new government, which left or right, but

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00:52:18,493 --> 00:52:21,212
Speaker 20: I'm actually looking forward to the people calming down because

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Speaker 20: there's a lot of them and decisive people over there

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Speaker 20: at the sea. We were we were living in the

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00:52:26,693 --> 00:52:29,173
Speaker 20: States when Obama got a link them, and we chose

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Speaker 20: not to go out on the night of the elections

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Speaker 20: just in case.

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Speaker 3: Whereaboutually going in the States.

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Speaker 20: Right, going to Dallas and then down to Florida and

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Speaker 20: then Key West for my birthday.

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Speaker 4: Oh nice, I've never had birthday and Key West.

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Speaker 3: I've never been to Florida. Yeah, I would love.

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00:52:48,093 --> 00:52:49,373
Speaker 20: I might be having a few margaritas.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely funny you mentioned that because I always thought, if

1111
00:52:52,573 --> 00:52:55,453
Speaker 4: I ever win lotto, Key West is where I'd love

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00:52:55,533 --> 00:52:57,053
Speaker 4: to buy a place that looks.

1113
00:52:56,933 --> 00:52:59,973
Speaker 3: Beautiful until the storms come through.

1114
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:01,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you win lotto, you can a couple

1115
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:03,853
Speaker 4: out homes, can't you. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

1116
00:53:03,893 --> 00:53:05,693
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call quick teats of the break.

1117
00:53:06,373 --> 00:53:09,212
Speaker 4: They are not putting democracy on the back burner. They

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00:53:09,253 --> 00:53:14,373
Speaker 4: know better than most in the democratic worlds looking forward

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Speaker 4: to Trump winning this election. From Kate, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: It's a interesting thing with America because people say it's corrupt,

1121
00:53:19,893 --> 00:53:23,093
Speaker 3: they say there's these problems, they point to all this stuff.

1122
00:53:23,093 --> 00:53:25,533
Speaker 3: But the reason why we do that is because of

1123
00:53:25,533 --> 00:53:27,853
Speaker 3: the free speech in America and because it's a democracy.

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00:53:28,173 --> 00:53:31,173
Speaker 3: So all the good and bad of America is laid

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00:53:31,213 --> 00:53:33,053
Speaker 3: out beer for the rest of the world to pick

1126
00:53:33,093 --> 00:53:35,333
Speaker 3: over a lot of these other countries that sometimes people

1127
00:53:35,373 --> 00:53:38,293
Speaker 3: will talk up they look better because you just can't

1128
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:40,772
Speaker 3: see the shimazl that's going on because it is all

1129
00:53:40,773 --> 00:53:41,933
Speaker 3: restricted and shut down.

1130
00:53:42,373 --> 00:53:46,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, and talking before about both of us going to America, well,

1131
00:53:46,293 --> 00:53:48,212
Speaker 4: for me, I thought I'd be a fish out of water.

1132
00:53:48,493 --> 00:53:51,013
Speaker 4: I thought it would be brash and a bra surf

1133
00:53:51,213 --> 00:53:54,813
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't like it. Couldn't be further from the truth. Absolutely,

1134
00:53:54,813 --> 00:53:57,853
Speaker 4: adore pretty much every place I went to in America,

1135
00:53:57,973 --> 00:54:01,013
Speaker 4: even LA which was pretty chaotic and crazy and you

1136
00:54:01,213 --> 00:54:03,573
Speaker 4: kind of get that brashn it's about LA.

1137
00:54:03,613 --> 00:54:06,453
Speaker 3: I still loved it, Even New York City, which is

1138
00:54:06,533 --> 00:54:10,773
Speaker 3: famously the dis place in America. They are still some

1139
00:54:10,813 --> 00:54:13,212
Speaker 3: of the nicest people I've ever met. I spent three

1140
00:54:13,213 --> 00:54:17,173
Speaker 3: weeks in New York just before the pandemic and lovely,

1141
00:54:17,453 --> 00:54:18,333
Speaker 3: lovely people.

1142
00:54:18,493 --> 00:54:21,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, they love a Kiwi as well, don't they most Americans.

1143
00:54:21,613 --> 00:54:23,973
Speaker 4: We'll get to Greg before the headlines go Greg.

1144
00:54:25,173 --> 00:54:28,373
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi, guys, I endorse everything you've said about the States.

1145
00:54:28,413 --> 00:54:31,053
Speaker 10: I've been there and some of the nicest, most studible

1146
00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:33,933
Speaker 10: people have ever come across. I was in Connecticut and

1147
00:54:33,933 --> 00:54:36,933
Speaker 10: I've been in New York and they when I met

1148
00:54:36,973 --> 00:54:39,293
Speaker 10: some guys on the streets there selling T shirts, I

1149
00:54:39,333 --> 00:54:41,453
Speaker 10: said I was a Kiwi and they said, a knowles

1150
00:54:41,573 --> 00:54:47,693
Speaker 10: under ship. We've got the noles oulder. A lot of

1151
00:54:47,693 --> 00:54:49,933
Speaker 10: people out of there like to snagger and snare in America,

1152
00:54:49,973 --> 00:54:52,373
Speaker 10: but it wasn't for the thousands of young American boys

1153
00:54:52,373 --> 00:54:54,653
Speaker 10: and girls. We've eating a die of fishing rice today

1154
00:54:54,653 --> 00:54:58,172
Speaker 10: and talking in a different dialect. The same applies as

1155
00:54:58,253 --> 00:55:00,453
Speaker 10: things go bad in the Pacific with you know who

1156
00:55:01,373 --> 00:55:05,693
Speaker 10: flexing their muscles our biggest trading partner. You know, the

1157
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:08,373
Speaker 10: Americans are not without fault, but as you said, it

1158
00:55:08,413 --> 00:55:10,413
Speaker 10: all comes out in the wash and not like a

1159
00:55:10,493 --> 00:55:12,573
Speaker 10: lot of other countries. You wouldn't say of the Chinese

1160
00:55:12,693 --> 00:55:14,373
Speaker 10: or the Russians or Iran.

1161
00:55:15,053 --> 00:55:15,212
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1162
00:55:15,253 --> 00:55:16,732
Speaker 3: And the other thing that the other thing that we're

1163
00:55:17,053 --> 00:55:21,013
Speaker 3: seeing Greg as well, is that look Americans on the ground,

1164
00:55:21,013 --> 00:55:22,613
Speaker 3: you talk to them very normal. But if you look

1165
00:55:22,613 --> 00:55:24,573
Speaker 3: at social media and if you look at the cable

1166
00:55:24,693 --> 00:55:27,293
Speaker 3: news network, you're looking at a heightened version. Only the

1167
00:55:27,333 --> 00:55:29,933
Speaker 3: most extreme opinions are being put up there. The most

1168
00:55:29,933 --> 00:55:33,133
Speaker 3: extreme five percent is being shoved in our face. But

1169
00:55:33,213 --> 00:55:36,772
Speaker 3: if every day Americans aren't like that, they may vote left,

1170
00:55:36,773 --> 00:55:39,773
Speaker 3: they may vote right, but most of them are very

1171
00:55:39,933 --> 00:55:40,973
Speaker 3: very friendly people.

1172
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Greg, thank you very much, my friend. It

1173
00:55:43,773 --> 00:55:46,172
Speaker 4: is twenty seven past two. We'll pick this back up shortly. Oh,

1174
00:55:46,173 --> 00:55:48,093
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call

1175
00:55:48,373 --> 00:55:49,973
Speaker 4: if you want to text through you more than welcome.

1176
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Speaker 4: Nine to two ninety two is the number back in

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Speaker 4: the mow.

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Speaker 15: JW's talk, say'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis It's

1179
00:55:58,893 --> 00:56:02,172
Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. A flurry of projections

1180
00:56:02,213 --> 00:56:04,453
Speaker 15: as the votes continue to be counted in the US

1181
00:56:04,573 --> 00:56:09,893
Speaker 15: presidential election, CNN projections give Donald Trump ninety nine electoral votes.

1182
00:56:10,173 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 15: It gives Carmala Harris twenty seven. No swing states have

1183
00:56:13,813 --> 00:56:17,173
Speaker 15: been called. C and Ann's John King says Pennsylvania is

1184
00:56:17,213 --> 00:56:20,053
Speaker 15: the biggest swing state, prize.

1185
00:56:19,653 --> 00:56:20,973
Speaker 3: Nineteen electoral votes.

1186
00:56:21,013 --> 00:56:24,173
Speaker 1: Whoever wins this state has just has more options to

1187
00:56:24,173 --> 00:56:25,893
Speaker 1: get to two seventy because it's nineteen.

1188
00:56:25,933 --> 00:56:27,213
Speaker 3: The next biggest one is sixteen.

1189
00:56:27,773 --> 00:56:30,893
Speaker 15: The economic downturn is catching up with the labor market,

1190
00:56:31,253 --> 00:56:34,173
Speaker 15: with the unemployment rate reaching four point eight percent in

1191
00:56:34,213 --> 00:56:37,573
Speaker 15: the September quarter. There were also annual increases in people

1192
00:56:37,653 --> 00:56:41,613
Speaker 15: unemployed more than three months. Fire Crews are responding to

1193
00:56:41,653 --> 00:56:44,813
Speaker 15: a house fire in Auckland's Glen Eden. All the people

1194
00:56:44,853 --> 00:56:48,613
Speaker 15: are accounted for. A survey has found ninety seven percent

1195
00:56:48,613 --> 00:56:52,373
Speaker 15: of Auckland pro Care gps plan to increase patient fees.

1196
00:56:53,293 --> 00:56:57,333
Speaker 15: Community advocate Dave butterbeen Lettelli says the South Auckland Food

1197
00:56:57,373 --> 00:57:01,853
Speaker 15: Bank now won't even last until Christmas after vandalism, wasted

1198
00:57:01,933 --> 00:57:07,133
Speaker 15: tons of frozen meat. Anxious and scared how Americans feel

1199
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Speaker 15: about the election. You can see the story and follow

1200
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,853
Speaker 15: all the coverage, including a live video analysis show from

1201
00:57:12,933 --> 00:57:15,933
Speaker 15: four pm at Enzen Herald. Now back to Matt Eath

1202
00:57:15,973 --> 00:57:16,933
Speaker 15: and Tyler Adams.

1203
00:57:17,053 --> 00:57:20,293
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we will continue

1204
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:22,533
Speaker 4: to bring you updates about the US election as the

1205
00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:26,013
Speaker 4: afternoon and evening progresses. The big states to watch, of

1206
00:57:26,053 --> 00:57:31,213
Speaker 4: course Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

1207
00:57:31,373 --> 00:57:34,013
Speaker 4: None of the networks have made calls on those battleground

1208
00:57:34,093 --> 00:57:36,413
Speaker 4: states yet, but will bring you up to date as

1209
00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,573
Speaker 4: soon as we get that information. We have been talking

1210
00:57:38,573 --> 00:57:41,973
Speaker 4: about the influence of America quick text here today, guys,

1211
00:57:42,053 --> 00:57:44,573
Speaker 4: I have lived in the US for five years. Fantastic

1212
00:57:44,653 --> 00:57:48,173
Speaker 4: place to visit, Maybe in the top three to four

1213
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:53,293
Speaker 4: worst places ever to live. Wow, health insurance and just

1214
00:57:53,333 --> 00:57:56,493
Speaker 4: so many other issues. The people to actually live with

1215
00:57:57,293 --> 00:58:01,053
Speaker 4: are great, but sometimes they treat their expats living elsewhere

1216
00:58:01,093 --> 00:58:03,453
Speaker 4: in the world horrifically with their tax system.

1217
00:58:03,733 --> 00:58:06,293
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, that's right. When you leave that tax system

1218
00:58:06,293 --> 00:58:10,173
Speaker 3: can be very very interesting. Lay your thoughts on the

1219
00:58:10,173 --> 00:58:11,733
Speaker 3: influence of America going forward.

1220
00:58:13,013 --> 00:58:16,733
Speaker 5: Oh, we'll still remain the same whichever one of the

1221
00:58:16,733 --> 00:58:20,653
Speaker 5: two gets voted in, and Americans will cope with it.

1222
00:58:22,013 --> 00:58:24,413
Speaker 5: When I'm listening to the results from all these states,

1223
00:58:24,453 --> 00:58:26,973
Speaker 5: I think I tell them myself, I've been there, been there.

1224
00:58:27,453 --> 00:58:34,413
Speaker 5: I have visited every state except Alaska, and everywhere I

1225
00:58:34,533 --> 00:58:41,533
Speaker 5: found Americans to be a light, friendly, helpful, really nice

1226
00:58:41,613 --> 00:58:46,133
Speaker 5: people to know. And yeah, I can only wish them well.

1227
00:58:47,373 --> 00:58:50,293
Speaker 5: As far as who's going to do what after the election,

1228
00:58:50,973 --> 00:58:55,293
Speaker 5: I would see Trump taking a much harder line on

1229
00:58:56,453 --> 00:58:59,693
Speaker 5: the migrants. He is not going to spoon feed them

1230
00:59:00,333 --> 00:59:06,973
Speaker 5: and the way the current administration has. But I worry

1231
00:59:07,013 --> 00:59:10,093
Speaker 5: a bit about how he will be as far as

1232
00:59:10,933 --> 00:59:15,213
Speaker 5: economy such as our So it's with mixed feelings. I

1233
00:59:15,333 --> 00:59:16,573
Speaker 5: wats what is going on?

1234
00:59:17,733 --> 00:59:20,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, and iically said that's seconitally Saidley, and that is

1235
00:59:20,933 --> 00:59:23,493
Speaker 3: interesting things for New Zealand because we get so embroiled

1236
00:59:23,533 --> 00:59:26,533
Speaker 3: in the American election because it's so forefront in our

1237
00:59:26,573 --> 00:59:29,173
Speaker 3: media that we start thinking about who we want to

1238
00:59:29,253 --> 00:59:32,213
Speaker 3: win in terms of the policies for America. But really,

1239
00:59:32,253 --> 00:59:35,613
Speaker 3: as New Zealanders, we probably should be thinking about it

1240
00:59:35,653 --> 00:59:37,693
Speaker 3: in terms not that we have any say or it

1241
00:59:37,693 --> 00:59:39,853
Speaker 3: makes any difference at all with how much we worry

1242
00:59:39,893 --> 00:59:43,893
Speaker 3: about it, but how whoever wins affects New Zealand because

1243
00:59:44,093 --> 00:59:47,173
Speaker 3: whatever side you go, primarily they have to work out

1244
00:59:47,213 --> 00:59:48,653
Speaker 3: for America first.

1245
00:59:49,093 --> 00:59:51,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think there's a case to be made

1246
00:59:51,733 --> 00:59:56,453
Speaker 4: that our relationship with America has eroded slowly over time.

1247
00:59:56,733 --> 01:00:00,613
Speaker 4: I think the National Party or National Coalition has said

1248
01:00:00,653 --> 01:00:02,773
Speaker 4: that they want to try and repair that relationship.

1249
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:03,093
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1250
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:04,853
Speaker 3: Well, it goes up and down, doesn't it. I mean

1251
01:00:05,093 --> 01:00:09,573
Speaker 3: the relationship was fantastic after World War Two, had our

1252
01:00:09,693 --> 01:00:12,373
Speaker 3: sort of skirmishes with them with their longer government in

1253
01:00:12,493 --> 01:00:16,813
Speaker 3: eighty four. And you know that neither confirmal deny on

1254
01:00:16,853 --> 01:00:19,773
Speaker 3: the nuclear ships. But I think essentially, I mean we're

1255
01:00:19,813 --> 01:00:22,613
Speaker 3: remember of five vibes. I think we're in the pocket.

1256
01:00:22,853 --> 01:00:24,253
Speaker 3: You're in the pocket with Big America.

1257
01:00:24,333 --> 01:00:26,413
Speaker 4: We certainly are Lee, thank you very much, And you're

1258
01:00:26,453 --> 01:00:27,653
Speaker 4: watching the election. I take it.

1259
01:00:28,813 --> 01:00:31,653
Speaker 5: Yes, I am listening while I'm working in the garage

1260
01:00:31,733 --> 01:00:34,693
Speaker 5: and then into the house to see watch it on TV.

1261
01:00:34,933 --> 01:00:38,973
Speaker 4: You're a good man. Thank you, quick text and then

1262
01:00:39,013 --> 01:00:41,453
Speaker 4: we'll get back to your phones. Giday. Guys, USA still

1263
01:00:41,453 --> 01:00:44,893
Speaker 4: the most powerful nation on Earth. Their national net worth

1264
01:00:44,973 --> 01:00:48,013
Speaker 4: is one point four quadrillion dollars. They have the money,

1265
01:00:48,013 --> 01:00:50,893
Speaker 4: don't worry, they have the power and no more empires.

1266
01:00:50,933 --> 01:00:51,093
Speaker 13: Now.

1267
01:00:51,093 --> 01:00:54,653
Speaker 4: Who will save New Zealand if we get into strife? Dino?

1268
01:00:54,973 --> 01:00:56,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, too big to fail?

1269
01:00:56,293 --> 01:00:59,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Greg.

1270
01:00:59,093 --> 01:01:01,493
Speaker 22: How you doing good, mate?

1271
01:01:01,493 --> 01:01:01,733
Speaker 12: Good?

1272
01:01:02,133 --> 01:01:03,773
Speaker 22: Yeah, I just listen to a little bit about what

1273
01:01:03,853 --> 01:01:07,213
Speaker 22: Jamie McKay, who's on your channel, was saying for the

1274
01:01:07,253 --> 01:01:09,653
Speaker 22: red meat sector. It could be quite an an East

1275
01:01:09,693 --> 01:01:13,813
Speaker 22: runner for New Zealand of trumpson, which is a good

1276
01:01:13,853 --> 01:01:16,133
Speaker 22: thing because you know they're struggling with their prices at

1277
01:01:16,133 --> 01:01:18,493
Speaker 22: the moment. But just looking at a couple of platforms

1278
01:01:18,493 --> 01:01:23,013
Speaker 22: here that Royce is live total electoral votes, Trump's in

1279
01:01:23,093 --> 01:01:27,573
Speaker 22: around fifty four, Harris is around forty four, quite well ahead,

1280
01:01:28,373 --> 01:01:33,693
Speaker 22: and the couple of beating platforms is now saying Trump's

1281
01:01:33,733 --> 01:01:38,133
Speaker 22: had his lowest odds ever during the election the run

1282
01:01:38,213 --> 01:01:40,853
Speaker 22: up to the election. Yeah, lowest odds ever right at

1283
01:01:40,853 --> 01:01:43,213
Speaker 22: this time. So yeah, it looks like it might be

1284
01:01:43,253 --> 01:01:45,093
Speaker 22: going the red way over there, which is our blue

1285
01:01:45,093 --> 01:01:45,613
Speaker 22: way over here.

1286
01:01:45,653 --> 01:01:48,213
Speaker 4: But anyway, well it's going to be an interesting few

1287
01:01:48,213 --> 01:01:50,133
Speaker 4: hours and maybe a few days, agree because as you say,

1288
01:01:50,133 --> 01:01:52,653
Speaker 4: that's Reuters and I'm looking at CNN predictions right now

1289
01:01:52,693 --> 01:01:55,133
Speaker 4: they've got Trump on one hundred and five electoral votes

1290
01:01:55,373 --> 01:01:59,373
Speaker 4: versus Karmela's twenty seven. But early days and they'll start

1291
01:01:59,373 --> 01:02:01,253
Speaker 4: making these predictions as they get more confident.

1292
01:02:02,293 --> 01:02:02,533
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1293
01:02:02,733 --> 01:02:05,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting with America because it's a two party

1294
01:02:05,813 --> 01:02:08,933
Speaker 3: system and you know, people have tried and and look

1295
01:02:09,053 --> 01:02:12,093
Speaker 3: RFK Junior, he was looking at trying to run an

1296
01:02:12,133 --> 01:02:15,253
Speaker 3: independent campaign very very very hard. He put He's put

1297
01:02:15,293 --> 01:02:17,853
Speaker 3: his hat in with Trump after a while. But with

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Speaker 3: the two party system, it just seems and it's no

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Speaker 3: coincident at all that it ends up being so close

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Speaker 3: to fifty to fifty when it comes because they carve

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Speaker 3: off their topics. Yeah, to make sure that they're going

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Speaker 3: head to head. That's that's the way it has to be.

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Speaker 3: So it always tightens up when it comes up to

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Speaker 3: the elections.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear

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Speaker 4: from you. How do you feel about America in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. Does it still hold the influence that it

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Speaker 4: has in the past if you've been there recently. Love

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Speaker 4: to hear from you as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll keep you up to date with any

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Speaker 3: breaking news out of the elections in America as we

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Speaker 3: go through to four o'clock on that and Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 3: on ZB.

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Speaker 4: It is twenty three minutes to three.

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Speaker 1: It's done. You take on talkbag man Heathen Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: News Talks the.

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Speaker 3: B Yeah, and it's the most exciting afternoon in the

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Speaker 3: global political calendar if you ask Meam. And I was

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Speaker 3: saying the other day, I wish I was the person

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Speaker 3: that cared more about local body elections in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: which actually affect us directly.

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Speaker 4: But the glitz and glamour and the tension and the

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Speaker 4: drama and the coverage of the American election draws us

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Speaker 4: in like moths to flames, whether it's good for us

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Speaker 4: or not. Do you know what we need here in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand for our local government elections? John King and

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Speaker 4: the Magic Screen let's get him over here first class.

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Speaker 4: He will be a game changer. But the results are

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Speaker 4: starting to come in. CEE and N are making projections

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Speaker 4: as our Fox News and the other networks. At this stage,

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Speaker 4: according to CNN, one hundred and seven electoral votes for

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump versus Karmela's twenty seven. But the swing states,

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Speaker 4: the battleground states are yet to be called by the networks,

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Speaker 4: So we'll bring you up to date with that as

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Speaker 4: those results come to hand. Quick couple of taxi texts here, guys.

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Speaker 4: I've just returned from twelve months working in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

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Speaker 4: for a New Zealand company, and we know Pennsylvania is

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Speaker 4: one of the big swings states this election. Watching the

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Speaker 4: lead up to the US election. If they are the

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Speaker 4: leader of the free world, then God help us. The

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Speaker 4: political system is totally corrupt and run on big money.

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Speaker 4: The media is just an arm of the political establishments

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Speaker 4: in Washington. It is still full of potential for those

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Speaker 4: with ambition, but politically stuffed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it. And you always

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Speaker 3: go to that quote from Winston Churchill at that point,

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Speaker 3: don't you. Democracy is the worst form of government except

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Speaker 3: for all those other forms that have been tried. And

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Speaker 3: as I keep saying, America, we can see the shimozzle

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Speaker 3: and the corruption and the problems are all laid bare

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Speaker 3: because of their constitution and free speech. So we see

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Speaker 3: the problems. I mean, look, people are talking about what's

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Speaker 3: the most influential country in the world. This's meant for

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Speaker 3: the longest time. People talk, well, China take over from America.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what, there's corruption and there the likes of

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Speaker 3: America could never possibly have. Yeah, it's a dictator sh

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Speaker 3: over there. So it's still our last best hope America

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Speaker 3: if you ask me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well just on that because that's often. You know,

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Speaker 4: historians will tell you that history repeats and there's been

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Speaker 4: leaders of the free world, different leaders over different centuries.

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Speaker 4: Britain was certainly the leader of the free world for

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Speaker 4: some decades. America has clearly been top of the table

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Speaker 4: for what the last fifty sixty years. And they say that, hey,

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Speaker 4: you never know, these things change. We've seen it in

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Speaker 4: the past, could it change again? I struggled to see that.

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Speaker 4: Certainly in our lifetimes. I think America is going to

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Speaker 4: stay at the top of that table for some time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this democracy is a mess, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: But it does mean that change comes and ideas can

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Speaker 3: come through, and a conversation can be had. And of

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Speaker 3: course social media is making that conversation more polarized and

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Speaker 3: people are entering their bubbles, and that is a real

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Speaker 3: threat to democracy. But I think the one thing that

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Speaker 3: democracy has is this shimozzle leads to creativity and more ideas,

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Speaker 3: and the businesses come through the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, Apple.

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Speaker 3: You still rule the world on that level because you

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Speaker 3: can create businesses in China, But then the government, the

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Speaker 3: CCP will just they'll just shut them down if they

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Speaker 3: don't like if it comes too powerful, so that stops

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Speaker 3: the creativity. So I still think democracy is the best

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Speaker 3: way for a country to lead the world. I just

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Speaker 3: think that the creative of the ideas that come through

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Speaker 3: it is it looks terribly messy from the outside, but

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Speaker 3: the mess in other countries is covered up and it's

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Speaker 3: shut down. And if you looked under the hood of China,

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Speaker 3: then I think you might be quite shocked at what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 4: But do we forget We look back with roast and

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Speaker 4: the glasses, and we forget about the decades in American

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Speaker 4: politics where it was very divided. I'm talking about the

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Speaker 4: Vietnam War for example. Now, the Nixon years, you know,

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Speaker 4: they were very polarizing years, and we forget about that

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Speaker 4: and we look at the last four eight years and

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Speaker 4: it's never been worse. Yeah, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 4: I think there's there's always been years of great division

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Speaker 4: and America comes through it.

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Speaker 3: Well, look at the assassinations in the sixties in America,

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Speaker 3: for example, And Billy Joel wrote a song about it

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Speaker 3: isn't that we didn't start the fire, it's always been

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Speaker 3: burning since the world's been turning, and that song. And

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Speaker 3: I hate to quote Billy Joel, big fan, but it

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Speaker 3: seems straight to quote him. But the point of that song,

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Speaker 3: which came out in the eighties was, well the early nineties,

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Speaker 3: was that America has had drama and shamozzles for the

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Speaker 3: longest time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're an American living in New Zealand, love

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Speaker 4: to hear from you. This afternoon, I eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 4: ten eighty watching this election. Hopefully you're listening to it

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Speaker 4: as well. But how are you feeling? This has been

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Speaker 4: tarted as the biggest, well the most historic election for

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Speaker 4: some time. Is that how you're feeling? What are you

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Speaker 4: hearing from your family back home? I eight one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call quick

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Speaker 4: text here guys agree with others. I have been to Washington,

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Speaker 4: San Francisco, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Williams, Yosemite, Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 4: New York multiple times. For most America, they are some

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Speaker 4: of the nicest, most courteous people you will find in

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Speaker 4: the world. I have met much root of people here

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand. So some people need to drop the

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Speaker 4: anti americanism of the university lecturers and go and see

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Speaker 4: for themselves it's a great place and can't wait to

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Speaker 4: go back from here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I've got a good friend that's an

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Speaker 3: American that's living here and he says, though about New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: is that that we're the nicest people live is met

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Speaker 3: and often when you go to another country, people are

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Speaker 3: much nicer to the visitors and the new people than

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Speaker 3: they are to the people around them that they've got

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01:08:40,372 --> 01:08:41,732
Speaker 3: entrenched resentments towards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 23: Yeah? Great, guys, Well, I'm a lot better. Often a

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Speaker 23: whole lot of Americans. I think at the moment they'd

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Speaker 23: be probably quite scared. But I've got a quote for you,

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Speaker 23: and I'd like to read the quote and then see

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Speaker 23: if you can help me who it is. Yep, And

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Speaker 23: I think it's pertinent because of the two candidates and

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Speaker 23: their differences. So the quote is this, when the power

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Speaker 23: of love overcomes the love of power, the world will

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Speaker 23: truly know peace.

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Speaker 4: When the power of love overcomes the love of power,

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01:09:15,013 --> 01:09:16,492
Speaker 4: the world will truly no peace.

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Speaker 3: Look, shall I be honest and say that I know,

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Speaker 3: or till I admit to you that I just googled that, Tony.

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Speaker 23: Well, I could hear your type.

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01:09:27,173 --> 01:09:30,772
Speaker 4: Tony, I could be as well and say that sounds

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Speaker 4: like a musician. But I've done it exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be Jimmy Hendrix, would Tony, of course.

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Speaker 2: It would be.

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01:09:37,372 --> 01:09:37,732
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: I think that's a wonderful thing because obviously Trump has

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01:09:41,532 --> 01:09:44,452
Speaker 23: got this love of power. And when you look at

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01:09:44,452 --> 01:09:48,013
Speaker 23: what that lady Kamarala Harris, I can never say a

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01:09:48,133 --> 01:09:50,692
Speaker 23: name when you look at what she has done full

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01:09:50,853 --> 01:09:55,412
Speaker 23: society all through her career. She's actually there for the

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01:09:55,492 --> 01:09:58,293
Speaker 23: power of love, not the love of power.

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Speaker 3: Well, are you sure about that? Because people will question

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01:10:01,652 --> 01:10:05,972
Speaker 3: about her records as a prosecutor, and they'll question about

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01:10:06,013 --> 01:10:08,133
Speaker 3: some of the things she's said. She's been pulled out

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01:10:08,173 --> 01:10:12,972
Speaker 3: on some lies. Across the election. She's made some pretty

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01:10:13,053 --> 01:10:17,572
Speaker 3: horrific comments about the other side. The comments on that

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01:10:17,572 --> 01:10:21,772
Speaker 3: that rally at Madison Square Garden, comparing it to a

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01:10:22,173 --> 01:10:25,053
Speaker 3: Nazi rally. That wasn't That wasn't love. And there's no

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01:10:25,133 --> 01:10:28,253
Speaker 3: way that you could look at that Medicine Square Garden

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Speaker 3: rally and say that it was a Nazi rally, seeing

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01:10:30,772 --> 01:10:33,093
Speaker 3: as they had so many Jewish people, there's so many

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01:10:33,093 --> 01:10:37,972
Speaker 3: people from different from different religions and backgrounds and races.

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Speaker 3: It was clearly not a Nazi rally. So that isn't

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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of love in those comments.

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Speaker 23: Perhaps not, although I think she just you know, as

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Speaker 23: somebody said, oh, that's not the real Harris, that's the

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Speaker 23: electioneering Harris.

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Speaker 3: Well then, but if you're willing to sell out what

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01:10:57,452 --> 01:11:00,492
Speaker 3: you are and the real you for what, for the

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01:11:00,572 --> 01:11:03,012
Speaker 3: for the for the want for the lust for power,

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01:11:03,213 --> 01:11:09,492
Speaker 3: that that that's really against against the Jimi Hendrix quote

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01:11:09,492 --> 01:11:10,293
Speaker 3: that you had before.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, but it's a beautiful quote.

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Speaker 4: A it is a beautiful you know this is so

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01:11:15,213 --> 01:11:17,412
Speaker 4: controversial as people are passionate. Tony, You're a good man.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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01:11:18,253 --> 01:11:19,732
Speaker 3: I love that quote. Thank you so much for sharing

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01:11:19,732 --> 01:11:19,973
Speaker 3: with us.

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Speaker 4: You know, a politician, you is politician who I thought

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01:11:22,293 --> 01:11:24,333
Speaker 4: had a lot of integrity. A lot of people won't agree,

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01:11:24,333 --> 01:11:26,572
Speaker 4: and that's fine, John McCain, and I'll tell you why.

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01:11:26,612 --> 01:11:29,532
Speaker 4: There was one scene when he was running against Obama,

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01:11:29,572 --> 01:11:31,932
Speaker 4: and it was a town hall situation and one woman

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01:11:31,973 --> 01:11:33,652
Speaker 4: stood up and she said, I'm not going to vote

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01:11:33,652 --> 01:11:36,293
Speaker 4: for Obama because he's a terrorist. He loves the Al Qaeda,

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01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,293
Speaker 4: he's a terrorist. And John McCain walked over to her,

1493
01:11:38,652 --> 01:11:42,013
Speaker 4: grabbed the mic off her and said, very nicely, I'm sorry, man,

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Speaker 4: but he's not He is not those things. He's a

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01:11:44,772 --> 01:11:49,213
Speaker 4: good man. We just disagree on fundamentals and how this

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01:11:49,293 --> 01:11:52,572
Speaker 4: country can get ahead. And that is that's integrity at

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Speaker 4: the highest level to me.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's the problem that Democrats have. I

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01:11:57,053 --> 01:11:58,892
Speaker 3: think one of the problems that the Democrats have is

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Speaker 3: that they've run read alert on every candidate that the

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01:12:02,133 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 3: Republicans have put up for the longest time. They run

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01:12:04,532 --> 01:12:08,253
Speaker 3: red alert on John McCain. They run red alert on

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01:12:09,812 --> 01:12:13,572
Speaker 3: Romney and now so when you know, it becomes the

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01:12:14,893 --> 01:12:17,652
Speaker 3: boy who cried wolf, because it turns out Romney wasn't

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01:12:17,652 --> 01:12:20,932
Speaker 3: the devil and McCain wasn't the devil. So when then

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01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:23,293
Speaker 3: you say Trump's the devil, people go, well, you've just

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01:12:23,333 --> 01:12:24,652
Speaker 3: been saying that over and over again.

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Speaker 4: Very good point. Right, We're going to cross now to

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01:12:27,053 --> 01:12:32,213
Speaker 4: Ethan Manera. He's in Wellington at the US Embassy party. Ethan, Hello,

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01:12:32,412 --> 01:12:36,492
Speaker 4: how are you. I'm gonna tell you guys, very good.

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01:12:36,492 --> 01:12:39,213
Speaker 4: What's the vibe at the UIs Embassy?

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01:12:40,013 --> 01:12:43,132
Speaker 24: Well, it's very excited here. I mean there's American flags,

1513
01:12:43,133 --> 01:12:45,093
Speaker 24: but as far as the I can see, the champagne's

1514
01:12:45,093 --> 01:12:47,293
Speaker 24: flowing and people are feeling I mean, it's a little

1515
01:12:47,293 --> 01:12:50,053
Speaker 24: bit tense. They're watching TV's that we're waiting for the

1516
01:12:50,093 --> 01:12:53,132
Speaker 24: results to roll, and they have ridden blue kins coloring

1517
01:12:53,133 --> 01:12:55,372
Speaker 24: in the states as states are now.

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01:12:56,492 --> 01:12:58,732
Speaker 13: But yeah, yeah, very excited.

1519
01:12:59,253 --> 01:13:00,812
Speaker 3: There's a little bit like those people that go to

1520
01:13:01,093 --> 01:13:03,892
Speaker 3: cricket games and do the scoring. You don't need to,

1521
01:13:03,933 --> 01:13:06,892
Speaker 3: they'll do it on the TV. But what's the feeling

1522
01:13:06,973 --> 01:13:09,612
Speaker 3: right now? Is anyone getting a sin? You know, we've

1523
01:13:09,612 --> 01:13:12,412
Speaker 3: watched a lot of elections before in the past. Even

1524
01:13:12,452 --> 01:13:15,213
Speaker 3: though it's early, you do get a sense of which

1525
01:13:15,213 --> 01:13:15,852
Speaker 3: way it's going.

1526
01:13:17,532 --> 01:13:19,812
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean it is sort of. It's a bit

1527
01:13:19,893 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 24: tense as people wait for the results to roll and

1528
01:13:21,772 --> 01:13:24,133
Speaker 24: no one's you know, celebrating yet. It is a lot

1529
01:13:24,133 --> 01:13:26,052
Speaker 24: of embassy folks here, so they have to be impartial.

1530
01:13:26,173 --> 01:13:29,412
Speaker 24: But I did speak to one US citizen. She's here

1531
01:13:29,452 --> 01:13:31,093
Speaker 24: on a holiday. She said she would have liked to

1532
01:13:31,093 --> 01:13:33,293
Speaker 24: have been in America to see her, but they wanted

1533
01:13:33,333 --> 01:13:34,892
Speaker 24: to come on holiday. They going to Fiji next, and

1534
01:13:34,933 --> 01:13:37,133
Speaker 24: she said she's a strong Kamala Harris supporter and she's

1535
01:13:37,213 --> 01:13:39,772
Speaker 24: very hopeful that she will win. She was sitting next

1536
01:13:39,772 --> 01:13:41,492
Speaker 24: to me on the couch to watching the results. But yeah,

1537
01:13:41,532 --> 01:13:42,092
Speaker 24: she's hopeful.

1538
01:13:43,093 --> 01:13:46,772
Speaker 4: And is there any anticipation that it might not quite

1539
01:13:46,812 --> 01:13:49,173
Speaker 4: go the way for you know, some of those Harror

1540
01:13:49,213 --> 01:13:51,572
Speaker 4: supporters are indeed maybe some of the Trump supporters. Is

1541
01:13:51,572 --> 01:13:53,652
Speaker 4: there a lot of anxiety in that room right now?

1542
01:13:53,652 --> 01:13:56,412
Speaker 2: Ethan, Well, I don't know.

1543
01:13:56,492 --> 01:13:58,652
Speaker 24: I suppose people are acknowledging that it is just too

1544
01:13:58,652 --> 01:14:00,892
Speaker 24: close to call. It's too early and the race is

1545
01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:03,132
Speaker 24: so tight. So yeah, people are just watching the TVs

1546
01:14:03,173 --> 01:14:05,772
Speaker 24: with baited breath. No one's making any calls yet, but

1547
01:14:05,812 --> 01:14:08,932
Speaker 24: that is enjoying the time. Well, they're here, and yeah, have.

1548
01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:12,333
Speaker 3: You got any idea when you think there might be

1549
01:14:12,692 --> 01:14:17,492
Speaker 3: a possibility to start thinking about having an opinion on

1550
01:14:17,532 --> 01:14:18,372
Speaker 3: which way it's going.

1551
01:14:20,213 --> 01:14:23,372
Speaker 24: Oh, I'm not going to make any calls yet. But yeah,

1552
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:26,173
Speaker 24: people don't seem too bothered. Really, they're just happy to

1553
01:14:26,213 --> 01:14:28,333
Speaker 24: be here. They're drinking the red wine, they're having the punch,

1554
01:14:28,372 --> 01:14:30,333
Speaker 24: they're having a little finger food. I think they just

1555
01:14:30,412 --> 01:14:32,772
Speaker 24: enjoying the company and joy being in the ambassad's beautiful

1556
01:14:32,812 --> 01:14:34,452
Speaker 24: house out in low Heart. It doesn't actually feel like

1557
01:14:34,452 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 24: a country estate in America.

1558
01:14:38,013 --> 01:14:40,893
Speaker 2: What kind of snacks you enjoying the party atmosphere?

1559
01:14:40,933 --> 01:14:42,372
Speaker 3: What kind of snacks have you got there? Have you

1560
01:14:42,452 --> 01:14:45,813
Speaker 3: got hot dogs?

1561
01:14:46,452 --> 01:14:48,052
Speaker 24: This is a bit of everything. There was some nuttooes

1562
01:14:48,053 --> 01:14:50,692
Speaker 24: with glacamole I was taking before. There's some cupcakes, there's

1563
01:14:50,692 --> 01:14:52,532
Speaker 24: some fruit punch. Also, it's really.

1564
01:14:52,612 --> 01:14:55,812
Speaker 4: America's do American does food very well. Ethan, Thank you

1565
01:14:55,933 --> 01:14:58,372
Speaker 4: very much, mate. Enjoy tonight. We might catch up a

1566
01:14:58,412 --> 01:14:59,532
Speaker 4: little bit later on.

1567
01:15:01,173 --> 01:15:01,972
Speaker 24: Amazing Thanks going.

1568
01:15:02,133 --> 01:15:04,772
Speaker 4: That is Ethan Minera. He is at the US Embassy

1569
01:15:04,812 --> 01:15:07,092
Speaker 4: in Wellington, where there is a watch party happening.

1570
01:15:07,213 --> 01:15:09,772
Speaker 3: And that's the frustrating thing about A lectures and it

1571
01:15:09,772 --> 01:15:11,572
Speaker 3: there's people like us to just go and tell us

1572
01:15:11,692 --> 01:15:13,772
Speaker 3: what's going to happen now, tell us what's going to

1573
01:15:13,812 --> 01:15:16,772
Speaker 3: happen now? And ye, you just don't know yet.

1574
01:15:16,933 --> 01:15:19,293
Speaker 4: It was very diplomatic of Ethan's A and A could

1575
01:15:19,333 --> 01:15:21,732
Speaker 4: go either way, fifty to fifty, and so we might

1576
01:15:21,772 --> 01:15:23,852
Speaker 4: not know for a very long time exactly. It is

1577
01:15:23,893 --> 01:15:25,572
Speaker 4: eight minutes to three.

1578
01:15:26,412 --> 01:15:28,812
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1579
01:15:28,853 --> 01:15:32,293
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you

1580
01:15:32,452 --> 01:15:37,213
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four you talk SEDB, News Talks EDB.

1581
01:15:37,333 --> 01:15:39,933
Speaker 4: We're going to pick this up after three o'clock and

1582
01:15:40,053 --> 01:15:43,093
Speaker 4: Matt is just about to head down to the Empire

1583
01:15:43,213 --> 01:15:47,132
Speaker 4: to have a chat to the US Consul General, Melissa Sweeney.

1584
01:15:47,173 --> 01:15:49,812
Speaker 4: She's part of the American Chamber of Commerce. So looking

1585
01:15:49,853 --> 01:15:52,652
Speaker 4: forward to catching up with Matt as he heads down there. Also,

1586
01:15:52,772 --> 01:15:55,333
Speaker 4: we're going to cross to Dan Mitchinson, he's on the

1587
01:15:55,372 --> 01:15:57,812
Speaker 4: East Coast to get the latest coming out of America

1588
01:15:57,893 --> 01:16:00,812
Speaker 4: as the vote continues. And we'll pick up your phone

1589
01:16:00,812 --> 01:16:03,213
Speaker 4: calls again after three o'clock as well. Our eight one

1590
01:16:03,293 --> 01:16:05,892
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number to call.

1591
01:16:05,973 --> 01:16:09,293
Speaker 4: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Stay tuned.

1592
01:16:09,333 --> 01:16:12,692
Speaker 4: There's plenty more results to come as America decides twenty

1593
01:16:12,812 --> 01:16:15,972
Speaker 4: twenty four. We will see you very soon. New sport

1594
01:16:16,013 --> 01:16:25,293
Speaker 4: and weather on its way.

1595
01:16:25,492 --> 01:16:47,572
Speaker 25: Like it like it's like I'm not a blood.

1596
01:16:50,532 --> 01:16:51,612
Speaker 4: My home person.

1597
01:16:51,812 --> 01:16:59,333
Speaker 3: Enough result the.

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01:17:55,853 --> 01:17:59,452
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful edit A tainting talk. It's

1599
01:17:59,612 --> 01:18:03,932
Speaker 1: Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Sippy.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Bacon to the show. So it is heating up

1601
01:18:07,612 --> 01:18:10,372
Speaker 4: as the count cant news in the US election, So

1602
01:18:10,572 --> 01:18:13,652
Speaker 4: Fox prediction. At this point, Trump has one hundred and

1603
01:18:13,692 --> 01:18:17,093
Speaker 4: seventy eight electoral votes to Harris's one hundred and thirteen.

1604
01:18:17,173 --> 01:18:21,492
Speaker 4: Remember it's the first to two seventy those crucial swing states.

1605
01:18:21,492 --> 01:18:24,012
Speaker 4: Too early to call. But Matt Heath has just run

1606
01:18:24,093 --> 01:18:27,933
Speaker 4: down to the Empire bar in Auckland, where the Auckland

1607
01:18:28,133 --> 01:18:31,293
Speaker 4: American rather Chamber of Communist Watch Party is underway. Matt,

1608
01:18:31,692 --> 01:18:33,452
Speaker 4: how you doing good?

1609
01:18:33,452 --> 01:18:33,732
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1610
01:18:33,772 --> 01:18:37,132
Speaker 4: Tyler AmCham election celebration at the Empire.

1611
01:18:37,173 --> 01:18:39,532
Speaker 3: I'm looking around. There's a lot of American flags. There's

1612
01:18:39,572 --> 01:18:42,172
Speaker 3: a few fries on tables, there's been a champagne.

1613
01:18:42,213 --> 01:18:47,412
Speaker 4: There's an atmosphere of nervous excitements. And I'm with Consul

1614
01:18:47,532 --> 01:18:51,172
Speaker 4: General at the US Consulate in Auckland, Melissa Sweeney. Melissa,

1615
01:18:51,173 --> 01:18:53,213
Speaker 4: are you surprised how much New Zealanders care about the

1616
01:18:53,213 --> 01:18:53,852
Speaker 4: American election?

1617
01:18:54,133 --> 01:18:55,372
Speaker 3: It has been something that's.

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01:18:55,253 --> 01:18:58,293
Speaker 26: Been pretty impressive to follow, to find so much analysis

1619
01:18:58,333 --> 01:19:00,652
Speaker 26: and interest in what's happening in the US. I know

1620
01:19:00,692 --> 01:19:04,052
Speaker 26: it's been a pretty exciting and maybe unusual campaign season

1621
01:19:04,093 --> 01:19:06,492
Speaker 26: for the United States, so we're happy to provide your entertainment.

1622
01:19:07,853 --> 01:19:11,853
Speaker 3: It is very entertaining. How important is this election globally?

1623
01:19:12,853 --> 01:19:15,012
Speaker 26: I think this is an important election, just as any

1624
01:19:15,013 --> 01:19:18,692
Speaker 26: of our presidential elections are. It's really important to also

1625
01:19:18,732 --> 01:19:21,013
Speaker 26: remember that this election is not just about president. It's

1626
01:19:21,053 --> 01:19:24,732
Speaker 26: also about many many other officials that the US citizens

1627
01:19:24,732 --> 01:19:27,333
Speaker 26: will be going to vote for. We've got members of

1628
01:19:27,333 --> 01:19:30,692
Speaker 26: Congress and the House Representatives. Senate is also up for

1629
01:19:31,133 --> 01:19:33,412
Speaker 26: some seats, and we also, of course have a lot

1630
01:19:33,412 --> 01:19:35,173
Speaker 26: of elections at the municipal.

1631
01:19:34,732 --> 01:19:35,532
Speaker 3: And state call level.

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01:19:35,572 --> 01:19:38,293
Speaker 26: So it's a big, big exciting thing for an American citizen,

1633
01:19:38,572 --> 01:19:40,973
Speaker 26: and it should have some possibly some ramifications for the

1634
01:19:41,013 --> 01:19:41,452
Speaker 26: world too.

1635
01:19:41,692 --> 01:19:43,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of New Zealanders don't understand that.

1636
01:19:43,652 --> 01:19:47,173
Speaker 3: We just focus on on the president, but as the

1637
01:19:47,173 --> 01:19:51,293
Speaker 3: president and in terms of possess position and importance, sorry,

1638
01:19:51,612 --> 01:19:54,812
Speaker 3: is that the president and the down ballot? Is it

1639
01:19:54,893 --> 01:19:56,333
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty?

1640
01:19:58,853 --> 01:20:00,333
Speaker 4: So can you ask that again?

1641
01:20:00,492 --> 01:20:03,052
Speaker 3: So like so that you've got the you've got the president.

1642
01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:05,372
Speaker 3: That's all we focus on right now. So in terms

1643
01:20:05,412 --> 01:20:09,172
Speaker 3: of an importance overall, is it as it even between

1644
01:20:09,612 --> 01:20:12,252
Speaker 3: the presidential and the down ballots or is the president

1645
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:14,652
Speaker 3: eighty ninety seen important?

1646
01:20:14,853 --> 01:20:17,852
Speaker 26: I guess it depends on each individual voter, honestly, because

1647
01:20:17,853 --> 01:20:21,213
Speaker 26: there are certain issues that resonate more and local politics

1648
01:20:21,293 --> 01:20:24,212
Speaker 26: is very important to folks as well. So the president

1649
01:20:24,293 --> 01:20:27,333
Speaker 26: is incredibly important as for us setting the tone, but

1650
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:29,892
Speaker 26: we also it's really incritical, like who controls Congress. We've

1651
01:20:29,933 --> 01:20:33,653
Speaker 26: got two co equal branches of government in addition to judiciary,

1652
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:36,293
Speaker 26: So what happens in the in Congress will have a

1653
01:20:36,293 --> 01:20:37,932
Speaker 26: big impact on people's lives as well.

1654
01:20:38,372 --> 01:20:40,852
Speaker 3: How's it for you personally? Obviously it's a huge event

1655
01:20:40,933 --> 01:20:42,852
Speaker 3: and you don't know what's going to happen back home.

1656
01:20:43,133 --> 01:20:45,572
Speaker 3: Obviously I've got family back there. How's it for you personally?

1657
01:20:45,612 --> 01:20:49,652
Speaker 4: To be following your home election from the Empire Tavern

1658
01:20:49,732 --> 01:20:50,732
Speaker 4: and Central Auckland.

1659
01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:53,412
Speaker 26: It's actually pretty cool to have so much connectivity in

1660
01:20:53,412 --> 01:20:55,173
Speaker 26: this day and a in the world, to be able

1661
01:20:55,173 --> 01:20:58,572
Speaker 26: to watch American newsreels coming in live and getting those

1662
01:20:58,572 --> 01:21:01,492
Speaker 26: immediate results the same that my family's experiencing in the US.

1663
01:21:01,532 --> 01:21:03,972
Speaker 26: So it's a pretty exciting way to sort of share

1664
01:21:03,973 --> 01:21:05,892
Speaker 26: the experience, even though I feel like I'm half well,

1665
01:21:05,893 --> 01:21:07,932
Speaker 26: I'm more than halfway around the world here in New Zealand.

1666
01:21:08,372 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 3: But it's pretty cool. Do you enjoy it? Is that

1667
01:21:10,772 --> 01:21:16,052
Speaker 3: food and drank and socializing. Is it like a sporting

1668
01:21:16,093 --> 01:21:17,852
Speaker 3: event for you? Or you have you got too much

1669
01:21:18,093 --> 01:21:19,892
Speaker 3: too much at stake for you to have a good time.

1670
01:21:20,692 --> 01:21:23,012
Speaker 26: It's a little bit more at stake than I'm sporting events.

1671
01:21:23,333 --> 01:21:25,892
Speaker 26: It's kind of entering in the sense that as an

1672
01:21:25,893 --> 01:21:28,293
Speaker 26: American citizen, I have an opportunity to vote, so I

1673
01:21:28,293 --> 01:21:29,652
Speaker 26: get to actually vote for who I would like to

1674
01:21:29,692 --> 01:21:31,812
Speaker 26: be in my bus So of course we have a

1675
01:21:31,572 --> 01:21:33,972
Speaker 26: lot of little bit more interest writing on the outcome

1676
01:21:33,973 --> 01:21:35,652
Speaker 26: of this type of election than me.

1677
01:21:35,732 --> 01:21:38,852
Speaker 24: Beyonce game, thank.

1678
01:21:38,732 --> 01:21:40,572
Speaker 3: You so much. That was Console General at the US

1679
01:21:40,612 --> 01:21:44,293
Speaker 3: Consulate and Auckland Melissa Sweeney fantasy. This event is really

1680
01:21:44,372 --> 01:21:47,092
Speaker 3: kicking off, and I guess the question. I've got a few, Tyler,

1681
01:21:47,133 --> 01:21:48,612
Speaker 3: is so I stay down here and have a few

1682
01:21:48,692 --> 01:21:52,812
Speaker 3: drinks and a bite, or do I come back to

1683
01:21:52,933 --> 01:21:54,173
Speaker 3: the studio up the road.

1684
01:21:54,253 --> 01:21:56,852
Speaker 4: The buzz there sounds amazing and I can almost hear

1685
01:21:56,893 --> 01:21:59,372
Speaker 4: that you've got a bud light in your hand right now, Matt,

1686
01:21:59,412 --> 01:22:01,253
Speaker 4: So I can't take that away from you. Just bring

1687
01:22:01,293 --> 01:22:03,053
Speaker 4: me a couple of buds with you when you come

1688
01:22:03,053 --> 01:22:05,173
Speaker 4: back up here, and maybe a hot tal. So what's

1689
01:22:05,173 --> 01:22:05,972
Speaker 4: the spread light there?

1690
01:22:06,572 --> 01:22:09,093
Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at a table, a huge tape of Nacho's.

1691
01:22:09,173 --> 01:22:11,972
Speaker 4: You've got fried chicken heir fries, as I said before,

1692
01:22:12,013 --> 01:22:15,333
Speaker 4: We've got some We've got some sort of corn things

1693
01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:17,612
Speaker 4: with some thrawns on it. There's some meat balls here.

1694
01:22:18,173 --> 01:22:20,412
Speaker 4: So look, yeah, I probably won't come back to the

1695
01:22:20,412 --> 01:22:22,732
Speaker 4: studio and I'll see you on the show tomorrow. Yeah.

1696
01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:25,572
Speaker 4: Can you just grab as much as you can, put

1697
01:22:25,612 --> 01:22:27,293
Speaker 4: it in your pockets and then just bring it back.

1698
01:22:27,333 --> 01:22:29,852
Speaker 4: That's the key thing, isn't it Just breaking as you can?

1699
01:22:30,013 --> 01:22:32,213
Speaker 3: We're actually breaking up, Tylers. So yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.

1700
01:22:32,293 --> 01:22:32,612
Speaker 2: All right.

1701
01:22:32,652 --> 01:22:34,932
Speaker 3: Then I'm just getting myself a bit enjoy Matt.

1702
01:22:35,013 --> 01:22:37,132
Speaker 4: Right, we're going to catch up with Matt very shortly,

1703
01:22:37,253 --> 01:22:39,173
Speaker 4: having a great time down at the Empire with the

1704
01:22:39,213 --> 01:22:43,333
Speaker 4: American Chamber of Commos a bit some fantastic comments there

1705
01:22:43,372 --> 01:22:46,253
Speaker 4: from the Council General. Right, we're gonna pick this back

1706
01:22:46,333 --> 01:22:47,532
Speaker 4: up and hopefully Matt comes back.

1707
01:22:47,532 --> 01:22:47,852
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1708
01:22:47,893 --> 01:22:49,333
Speaker 4: He was having a pretty good time, so I can't

1709
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:53,093
Speaker 4: blame him if he doesn't come back. Oh, eight hundred eighty.

1710
01:22:53,133 --> 01:22:55,333
Speaker 4: We're going to pick back up on the discussion we

1711
01:22:55,333 --> 01:22:57,652
Speaker 4: were having about America's influence in the world. Have you

1712
01:22:57,732 --> 01:23:00,812
Speaker 4: been recently if you are an American living in New Zealand,

1713
01:23:01,093 --> 01:23:04,012
Speaker 4: are you watching? Are you listening right now? How you feeling?

1714
01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:05,093
Speaker 4: Are you apprehensive?

1715
01:23:05,093 --> 01:23:05,253
Speaker 24: They are?

1716
01:23:05,293 --> 01:23:09,533
Speaker 4: You're excited. As it stands right now, news is predicting.

1717
01:23:09,772 --> 01:23:12,652
Speaker 4: As it stands in terms of electoral votes, Trump has

1718
01:23:12,652 --> 01:23:15,652
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy eight versus Harris's one hundred and thirteen,

1719
01:23:15,933 --> 01:23:19,412
Speaker 4: but those crucial battleground states are too close to call

1720
01:23:19,452 --> 01:23:21,732
Speaker 4: it this stage. It is twelve past three. Back very

1721
01:23:21,812 --> 01:23:26,772
Speaker 4: shortly here on New Stalks, EDB good afternoon, fourteen past three.

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Speaker 4: Now I thought Matt was going to stick around. He

1723
01:23:28,933 --> 01:23:31,972
Speaker 4: was having such a good time at the Empire. Oh

1724
01:23:32,013 --> 01:23:33,532
Speaker 4: you look good, mate. You put on a blazer for

1725
01:23:33,572 --> 01:23:35,612
Speaker 4: that very good welcome back. It was fast.

1726
01:23:35,692 --> 01:23:37,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I'd make an effort, but I was

1727
01:23:37,133 --> 01:23:38,772
Speaker 3: going to stay there, but then Swifty came in, the

1728
01:23:38,772 --> 01:23:40,532
Speaker 3: boss was sent in and where's the food? Did you

1729
01:23:40,572 --> 01:23:42,412
Speaker 3: mean the food? I don't bring the foodback. I was grabbed.

1730
01:23:42,412 --> 01:23:44,412
Speaker 3: I was collared and brought back at the studio like

1731
01:23:44,452 --> 01:23:45,412
Speaker 3: I'm in a bad mood.

1732
01:23:45,213 --> 01:23:48,052
Speaker 4: Now, all right, Yeah, well you brought some buds back though. Yeah,

1733
01:23:48,173 --> 01:23:50,572
Speaker 4: I can see a couple of bud lights there. Welcome back,

1734
01:23:50,652 --> 01:23:52,972
Speaker 4: and we put the call out there for Americans living

1735
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:55,772
Speaker 4: in New Zealand. Clearly this is major for you. It's

1736
01:23:55,812 --> 01:23:58,133
Speaker 4: major for the world, and it is for Kiwis as well,

1737
01:23:58,173 --> 01:24:00,572
Speaker 4: but more so if you're an American living in New Zealand.

1738
01:24:00,612 --> 01:24:02,852
Speaker 4: How you're feeling, Kyle, how are you mate?

1739
01:24:03,532 --> 01:24:03,732
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1740
01:24:03,772 --> 01:24:04,133
Speaker 15: Good mate?

1741
01:24:04,173 --> 01:24:04,572
Speaker 14: How you going?

1742
01:24:04,853 --> 01:24:09,053
Speaker 4: Very good? So what's your thoughts you're watching? Yeah, are anxious,

1743
01:24:09,093 --> 01:24:09,933
Speaker 4: so you're excited.

1744
01:24:11,013 --> 01:24:12,812
Speaker 14: Yeah, trying to roll with the punches and see how

1745
01:24:12,812 --> 01:24:14,932
Speaker 14: it goes. I'm on a building site so I can

1746
01:24:14,973 --> 01:24:18,133
Speaker 14: just listen to you guys, to the radio yeah, but yeah,

1747
01:24:18,133 --> 01:24:19,892
Speaker 14: it's definitely biting the nails a little bit.

1748
01:24:20,333 --> 01:24:22,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, I be And what part of America? Are you from?

1749
01:24:23,133 --> 01:24:25,492
Speaker 14: California? Originally been out here a decade though?

1750
01:24:25,692 --> 01:24:25,892
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1751
01:24:25,973 --> 01:24:28,492
Speaker 3: Right, so California, that's done and dusted. They don't even

1752
01:24:28,652 --> 01:24:30,492
Speaker 3: really need to run the election, do they? In California?

1753
01:24:30,492 --> 01:24:31,293
Speaker 3: It always goes one way.

1754
01:24:31,372 --> 01:24:33,573
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a bit of a lost cars over there unfortunately.

1755
01:24:34,612 --> 01:24:39,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so is it you know, the anxiety as

1756
01:24:39,333 --> 01:24:42,093
Speaker 4: you watch your do we play it up a bit

1757
01:24:42,133 --> 01:24:45,333
Speaker 4: more here? Then? Is actually it gets played up in America?

1758
01:24:45,412 --> 01:24:48,933
Speaker 4: You know, we get bombarded with the US election and

1759
01:24:48,973 --> 01:24:51,253
Speaker 4: the media and the headlines we have for a long time.

1760
01:24:51,452 --> 01:24:53,532
Speaker 4: Is it different to how we report here than what

1761
01:24:53,772 --> 01:24:54,932
Speaker 4: is the reality on the ground?

1762
01:24:56,412 --> 01:24:59,293
Speaker 14: So I'd say for like the mainstream media, it's probably

1763
01:24:59,293 --> 01:25:01,093
Speaker 14: about the same. You hear a lot of the same

1764
01:25:01,173 --> 01:25:04,692
Speaker 14: talking points. It's probably a little bit downplayed here. It's

1765
01:25:04,812 --> 01:25:08,972
Speaker 14: huge in the States. It's just such a massive campaign. Yeah, yeah,

1766
01:25:08,973 --> 01:25:10,972
Speaker 14: but it's a little bit one sided, to be fair.

1767
01:25:11,293 --> 01:25:13,412
Speaker 3: And do you talk to your family back home about

1768
01:25:13,452 --> 01:25:15,772
Speaker 3: the election a lot? Or are you one of those

1769
01:25:15,812 --> 01:25:17,892
Speaker 3: people that you hear about out of the States they're

1770
01:25:17,973 --> 01:25:20,293
Speaker 3: bringing up politics with your families just not worth it

1771
01:25:20,333 --> 01:25:22,372
Speaker 3: in terms of the arguments.

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01:25:23,093 --> 01:25:25,572
Speaker 14: And I've got a really good relationship talking relationship with

1773
01:25:25,612 --> 01:25:27,732
Speaker 14: the folk, so well, we're happy to talk about that

1774
01:25:27,812 --> 01:25:31,052
Speaker 14: kind of stuff. My dad's a bit blue through and through.

1775
01:25:31,133 --> 01:25:33,732
Speaker 14: Even if the like the party has changed a lot

1776
01:25:33,772 --> 01:25:37,372
Speaker 14: of its policies, he still has kind of just throws

1777
01:25:37,372 --> 01:25:38,173
Speaker 14: a banner up, you know.

1778
01:25:38,492 --> 01:25:38,892
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:25:38,933 --> 01:25:41,293
Speaker 3: And if you don't mind me asking which way are

1780
01:25:41,452 --> 01:25:42,253
Speaker 3: you leaning?

1781
01:25:43,053 --> 01:25:46,133
Speaker 14: Well, I've been historically. I was a Democrat, but the

1782
01:25:46,213 --> 01:25:48,852
Speaker 14: Democratic Party seems to have lost a lot of its values.

1783
01:25:48,853 --> 01:25:50,333
Speaker 14: You know, they're kind of the war party now and

1784
01:25:50,893 --> 01:25:53,572
Speaker 14: also the anti free speech party. So those are two

1785
01:25:53,772 --> 01:25:56,932
Speaker 14: big items for me. So I've turned red because of that.

1786
01:25:57,133 --> 01:26:00,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. And I was looking at a stat

1787
01:26:00,213 --> 01:26:03,213
Speaker 3: out of the States and it was saying that females

1788
01:26:03,333 --> 01:26:07,093
Speaker 3: break for Kamala by seventeen percent, in male's break for

1789
01:26:07,173 --> 01:26:09,652
Speaker 3: Trump by eighteen percent. Are you seeing that with the

1790
01:26:09,692 --> 01:26:12,772
Speaker 3: Americans that you know back home, that it's becoming a

1791
01:26:12,812 --> 01:26:13,852
Speaker 3: female male thing.

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01:26:16,612 --> 01:26:16,932
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1793
01:26:16,933 --> 01:26:19,052
Speaker 14: To be honest, I probably don't have a good sample size,

1794
01:26:19,053 --> 01:26:21,133
Speaker 14: but I don't keep in touch with enough people back Yeah,

1795
01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:24,053
Speaker 14: so I really can't give you the best on that.

1796
01:26:24,372 --> 01:26:26,253
Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you so much. Yeah for your call,

1797
01:26:26,333 --> 01:26:27,612
Speaker 3: appreciate it and all the best.

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01:26:27,692 --> 01:26:29,492
Speaker 4: Well, just quickly, Kyle, was it easy for you to

1799
01:26:29,492 --> 01:26:31,093
Speaker 4: make your vote here in New Zealand? Was that an

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01:26:31,093 --> 01:26:31,812
Speaker 4: easy process?

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01:26:32,973 --> 01:26:35,093
Speaker 14: No, it was a bit difficult. At first. It was

1802
01:26:35,173 --> 01:26:37,492
Speaker 14: quite easy because they had some online thing, but I

1803
01:26:37,492 --> 01:26:39,412
Speaker 14: didn't jump on that quick enough and then it turned

1804
01:26:39,412 --> 01:26:41,892
Speaker 14: to a paper mail and we'll see if it makes

1805
01:26:41,893 --> 01:26:42,492
Speaker 14: it there in time.

1806
01:26:43,133 --> 01:26:44,972
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good, Kyle, Thank you very much.

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01:26:46,053 --> 01:26:49,492
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that's interesting. Have you ever voted from overseas, Tyler?

1808
01:26:49,893 --> 01:26:52,812
Speaker 4: No, but I understand it is quite the process, even

1809
01:26:52,853 --> 01:26:54,893
Speaker 4: for our election. You've done that in the past, of you.

1810
01:26:55,173 --> 01:26:57,053
Speaker 3: I haven't, but I was with my sister in the

1811
01:26:57,372 --> 01:26:59,692
Speaker 3: New Zealand elections were on last time, and she's a

1812
01:26:59,692 --> 01:27:02,092
Speaker 3: New Zealand citizen living in London, and it was very easy.

1813
01:27:02,133 --> 01:27:06,012
Speaker 3: She just printed out a form off the internet, filled

1814
01:27:06,013 --> 01:27:08,013
Speaker 3: it out and then fight it in sweet as.

1815
01:27:08,333 --> 01:27:09,692
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you this question, she met.

1816
01:27:09,772 --> 01:27:10,852
Speaker 4: But Kyle, are you still there?

1817
01:27:11,452 --> 01:27:11,652
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1818
01:27:11,692 --> 01:27:15,172
Speaker 4: Yeah, So being a Californian and with the electoral college system,

1819
01:27:15,333 --> 01:27:18,732
Speaker 4: is that frustrated and all that? Clearly you've changed to

1820
01:27:18,772 --> 01:27:21,692
Speaker 4: read and you listed their very valid reasons why. But

1821
01:27:21,732 --> 01:27:24,692
Speaker 4: with the electoral college system, is that frustrating for you

1822
01:27:24,772 --> 01:27:26,772
Speaker 4: a few, you know, because as we know, California is

1823
01:27:26,772 --> 01:27:30,372
Speaker 4: probably going to go blue. Is that difficult? Well?

1824
01:27:30,572 --> 01:27:33,692
Speaker 14: I think the other side of it is more important,

1825
01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:36,372
Speaker 14: which is the small states that wouldn't have any say

1826
01:27:36,412 --> 01:27:39,133
Speaker 14: at all, even if they have quite a large amount

1827
01:27:39,173 --> 01:27:42,093
Speaker 14: of land or even resources that would be just you know,

1828
01:27:42,333 --> 01:27:44,772
Speaker 14: pillaged if they didn't have a say. So I think

1829
01:27:44,772 --> 01:27:47,253
Speaker 14: the electoral college really does stand up for the small guy,

1830
01:27:47,652 --> 01:27:49,492
Speaker 14: even if some states are just a wash.

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01:27:50,213 --> 01:27:52,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I'm really surprised with the amount of

1832
01:27:52,772 --> 01:27:56,132
Speaker 3: people in quite high up people in politics in America

1833
01:27:56,253 --> 01:27:59,213
Speaker 3: saying that they want to abolish the electoral system in

1834
01:27:59,253 --> 01:28:02,372
Speaker 3: favor of the popular vote, because that would be the

1835
01:28:02,452 --> 01:28:04,492
Speaker 3: end of America, wouldn't it. Because what's the point of

1836
01:28:04,532 --> 01:28:07,213
Speaker 3: being a small state if you don't have a say

1837
01:28:07,253 --> 01:28:07,852
Speaker 3: in the union?

1838
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:12,933
Speaker 14: Exactly? It'd be like if Auckland, you know, had the

1839
01:28:13,013 --> 01:28:15,412
Speaker 14: vote on every single thing that mattered in the country.

1840
01:28:16,133 --> 01:28:18,293
Speaker 14: You know, even though they dwarf for everyone else, you know,

1841
01:28:18,572 --> 01:28:21,012
Speaker 14: that doesn't really they don't know what's going on in Otaga.

1842
01:28:21,293 --> 01:28:23,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, very good call. Great to check hole thank

1843
01:28:23,692 --> 01:28:25,692
Speaker 4: you very much. Love to hear from you as well.

1844
01:28:25,812 --> 01:28:28,732
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty, particularly if you're an

1845
01:28:28,732 --> 01:28:31,172
Speaker 4: American living in New Zealand right now, how are you feeling?

1846
01:28:31,452 --> 01:28:34,253
Speaker 4: How is the family back home, friends back home feeling?

1847
01:28:34,452 --> 01:28:36,652
Speaker 4: Quick text to the break, you will say, is the

1848
01:28:36,692 --> 01:28:38,813
Speaker 4: West imperfect perfect experiment?

1849
01:28:38,893 --> 01:28:39,133
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1850
01:28:39,492 --> 01:28:41,852
Speaker 4: What else do you want? Or who else rather do

1851
01:28:41,893 --> 01:28:45,852
Speaker 4: you want running the world? The Chinese, the Russians, or

1852
01:28:46,013 --> 01:28:49,133
Speaker 4: the hypiureocratic Europeans, America all the way?

1853
01:28:49,412 --> 01:28:51,732
Speaker 3: Well, to a certain extent, with America running the world,

1854
01:28:52,053 --> 01:28:54,492
Speaker 3: New Zealand is kind of on the side of the

1855
01:28:54,492 --> 01:28:56,213
Speaker 3: people that are running the world, and that's something that

1856
01:28:56,213 --> 01:28:57,052
Speaker 3: people should remember.

1857
01:28:57,173 --> 01:28:58,692
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1858
01:28:58,732 --> 01:29:03,813
Speaker 4: number to call. It's twenty past three.

1859
01:29:04,973 --> 01:29:09,333
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons cool oh eight hundred on

1860
01:29:09,452 --> 01:29:10,732
Speaker 1: news Talk said the it's.

1861
01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:12,892
Speaker 4: Twenty two past three and we've roped in our drive

1862
01:29:13,013 --> 01:29:16,572
Speaker 4: host Heather to please see Allen. Hey you Heather, Hello mate.

1863
01:29:16,412 --> 01:29:19,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, your first time on Matton Tyler Afternoons and what

1864
01:29:19,772 --> 01:29:22,492
Speaker 3: a moment. What a moment for us as well. So

1865
01:29:22,652 --> 01:29:24,772
Speaker 3: I know it's too early and no one will say

1866
01:29:24,853 --> 01:29:27,452
Speaker 3: what they think because they want more results to come in.

1867
01:29:27,893 --> 01:29:31,133
Speaker 3: But are you getting any kind of vibe because you

1868
01:29:31,173 --> 01:29:33,532
Speaker 3: can and elections, can't you? And the American elections we

1869
01:29:33,612 --> 01:29:36,412
Speaker 3: followed so many you feel which way it's going.

1870
01:29:36,812 --> 01:29:39,253
Speaker 27: Well, I can't see anything just yet in what we're

1871
01:29:39,253 --> 01:29:42,133
Speaker 27: seeing in the election results that are going to flip

1872
01:29:42,133 --> 01:29:44,173
Speaker 27: it one way because because as somebody just said on

1873
01:29:44,173 --> 01:29:46,572
Speaker 27: one of the TV channels, I've been watching Fox and CNN,

1874
01:29:46,612 --> 01:29:49,732
Speaker 27: both of them like taking turns with them. And what

1875
01:29:49,893 --> 01:29:52,612
Speaker 27: somebody said, nobody's broken serve, which I think is the

1876
01:29:52,692 --> 01:29:54,852
Speaker 27: kind of important thing here. Nobody's flipped a state that

1877
01:29:54,933 --> 01:29:56,492
Speaker 27: they haven't held before.

1878
01:29:56,572 --> 01:29:57,333
Speaker 3: You know, there's no.

1879
01:29:57,293 --> 01:29:59,892
Speaker 27: Surprise in it just yet. But my feeling still has

1880
01:29:59,933 --> 01:30:01,612
Speaker 27: and my feeling has been for a couple of weeks

1881
01:30:01,612 --> 01:30:04,532
Speaker 27: that Trumpy takes it out. Just nothing at the moment

1882
01:30:04,853 --> 01:30:07,492
Speaker 27: actually indicates that other than it's just it's kind of

1883
01:30:07,652 --> 01:30:08,133
Speaker 27: part of the.

1884
01:30:08,093 --> 01:30:10,892
Speaker 21: Course, except as you said, say.

1885
01:30:10,692 --> 01:30:15,133
Speaker 4: It Florida, Yes, because Florida has been a toss up,

1886
01:30:15,213 --> 01:30:18,093
Speaker 4: It's been argued about, it's been the one we've been

1887
01:30:18,093 --> 01:30:21,053
Speaker 4: waiting through to come come through in previous elections, and

1888
01:30:21,093 --> 01:30:24,333
Speaker 4: it just broke for Trump. So hard is Florida that

1889
01:30:24,532 --> 01:30:27,532
Speaker 4: different now from the rest of America, But it broke

1890
01:30:27,612 --> 01:30:29,892
Speaker 4: for Trump very quickly and was called what.

1891
01:30:29,893 --> 01:30:30,372
Speaker 21: Did I just say?

1892
01:30:30,372 --> 01:30:31,932
Speaker 27: I looked at the most recent numbers for you. It's

1893
01:30:32,333 --> 01:30:34,532
Speaker 27: eighty nine percent counted in Florida and it's fifty six

1894
01:30:34,532 --> 01:30:35,093
Speaker 27: percent for him.

1895
01:30:35,293 --> 01:30:37,892
Speaker 4: Yes, I hadn't got a hope now on that one.

1896
01:30:38,133 --> 01:30:40,692
Speaker 4: It's God, is that wishful thinking from Carmela.

1897
01:30:42,333 --> 01:30:42,732
Speaker 10: Begun?

1898
01:30:43,173 --> 01:30:45,132
Speaker 3: But does that mean? I mean, the states are so different,

1899
01:30:45,173 --> 01:30:47,612
Speaker 3: But can you read anything out of somewhere like Florida

1900
01:30:47,692 --> 01:30:51,572
Speaker 3: that has been close before and now has definitely broken

1901
01:30:51,812 --> 01:30:54,812
Speaker 3: into one Trump hard? Can you read that that those

1902
01:30:54,893 --> 01:30:57,372
Speaker 3: kind of people across the nation are going to vote

1903
01:30:57,372 --> 01:30:58,173
Speaker 3: in a similar way I.

1904
01:30:58,213 --> 01:31:00,133
Speaker 27: Can read if you want to read something into it,

1905
01:31:00,173 --> 01:31:02,293
Speaker 27: is that he's managing to mobilize his vote, which is

1906
01:31:02,372 --> 01:31:04,972
Speaker 27: which is the thing that everybody talked about, right, That's

1907
01:31:05,293 --> 01:31:08,093
Speaker 27: that was the last remaining hope for Carmela was that

1908
01:31:08,173 --> 01:31:11,052
Speaker 27: she would get out people who never got out before

1909
01:31:11,293 --> 01:31:12,732
Speaker 27: and they would go and vote. But it looks like

1910
01:31:12,772 --> 01:31:15,692
Speaker 27: he's doing exactly the same thing. I think the other

1911
01:31:15,692 --> 01:31:18,612
Speaker 27: thing that's interesting is Iowa, right, because this is the

1912
01:31:18,652 --> 01:31:21,532
Speaker 27: one we've got to keep an eye on because Iowa. Basically,

1913
01:31:21,532 --> 01:31:23,372
Speaker 27: what you were arguing that is that if you have

1914
01:31:23,452 --> 01:31:26,532
Speaker 27: a really strong movement in one state towards Trump, maybe

1915
01:31:26,532 --> 01:31:29,772
Speaker 27: you see that reflected across the country. Watch Iowa because

1916
01:31:29,772 --> 01:31:31,492
Speaker 27: that's the other one. We'll be looking forward to see

1917
01:31:31,532 --> 01:31:33,812
Speaker 27: if the opposite happens for Carmela because remember she got

1918
01:31:33,812 --> 01:31:35,732
Speaker 27: the shock poll that put her in front just a

1919
01:31:35,732 --> 01:31:38,173
Speaker 27: few days ago. At the moment, she is leading fifty

1920
01:31:38,253 --> 01:31:40,173
Speaker 27: nine to forty one, but it's only nine percent counted.

1921
01:31:40,333 --> 01:31:42,732
Speaker 27: And this is the problem, is it's just it. I mean,

1922
01:31:42,772 --> 01:31:44,013
Speaker 27: the numbers favor him.

1923
01:31:44,013 --> 01:31:44,492
Speaker 21: At the moment.

1924
01:31:44,812 --> 01:31:46,692
Speaker 27: CNN's got him one hundred and fifty four. This is

1925
01:31:46,692 --> 01:31:48,652
Speaker 27: electoral College vote one hundred and fifty four to thirty,

1926
01:31:48,652 --> 01:31:51,333
Speaker 27: which is a massive margin. Fox has got one hundred

1927
01:31:51,333 --> 01:31:53,372
Speaker 27: and ninety five to one hundred and thirteen. But you

1928
01:31:53,452 --> 01:31:55,572
Speaker 27: always get what they call the red mirage at the

1929
01:31:55,572 --> 01:31:57,532
Speaker 27: start where it looks real awesome to him, and then

1930
01:31:57,732 --> 01:31:58,732
Speaker 27: the blue one comes up.

1931
01:31:58,893 --> 01:32:00,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, who have you got on after four? Who you're

1932
01:32:00,612 --> 01:32:01,013
Speaker 4: speaking to?

1933
01:32:01,093 --> 01:32:02,772
Speaker 27: Actually, very good question. So we're gonna go to Jack

1934
01:32:02,893 --> 01:32:06,333
Speaker 27: Jack Tame. He's outside Karmala Harris's headquarters. He's just gonna

1935
01:32:06,333 --> 01:32:07,972
Speaker 27: give us a vibe of what's going on in there.

1936
01:32:08,532 --> 01:32:11,133
Speaker 27: Scott Brown, the former US Ambassador to New Zealand, who's

1937
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Speaker 27: very much a Republican, will talk us through it. We're

1938
01:32:12,893 --> 01:32:15,133
Speaker 27: gonna have a little bit of a Republican Democrat off.

1939
01:32:15,293 --> 01:32:15,572
Speaker 10: Great.

1940
01:32:15,812 --> 01:32:17,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, after five, it's exciting.

1941
01:32:17,293 --> 01:32:19,693
Speaker 21: I think, give us, give us the vibes from inside.

1942
01:32:20,412 --> 01:32:24,773
Speaker 3: Now, if Karmela should lose, do you think the Democrats

1943
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:28,013
Speaker 3: will have a long hard look at themselves because they

1944
01:32:28,093 --> 01:32:30,333
Speaker 3: seem to have a bit of a problem with males,

1945
01:32:30,812 --> 01:32:32,532
Speaker 3: and they seem to have a bit of a problem

1946
01:32:32,532 --> 01:32:34,453
Speaker 3: with sixty nine percent of the population.

1947
01:32:34,933 --> 01:32:36,572
Speaker 27: Do you know what, Matt, I just think that they've

1948
01:32:36,572 --> 01:32:40,012
Speaker 27: got a similar I get a real strong labor party

1949
01:32:40,093 --> 01:32:42,932
Speaker 27: vibe from the Democrats, like as a labor party New Zealand,

1950
01:32:43,213 --> 01:32:45,132
Speaker 27: where I don't think they listen enough to the people.

1951
01:32:45,133 --> 01:32:48,333
Speaker 27: It's almost like there's a kind of there's almost like

1952
01:32:48,492 --> 01:32:50,093
Speaker 27: I'm going to give you the candidate that's good for

1953
01:32:50,133 --> 01:32:53,013
Speaker 27: you rather than the candidate you necessarily want. And I

1954
01:32:53,053 --> 01:32:55,293
Speaker 27: don't know that the self reflection is there, do you

1955
01:32:55,333 --> 01:32:58,133
Speaker 27: know what I mean? And maybe this is actually maybe

1956
01:32:58,133 --> 01:33:00,572
Speaker 27: I'm being a little unfair on the left of politics

1957
01:33:00,572 --> 01:33:02,932
Speaker 27: because I think when you look at the Republicans and

1958
01:33:03,013 --> 01:33:05,133
Speaker 27: even the National Party in New Zealand, they are doing

1959
01:33:05,133 --> 01:33:07,293
Speaker 27: a very similar thing where they kind of don't really

1960
01:33:07,293 --> 01:33:10,053
Speaker 27: give you that, Like even Luck isn't the greatest politician,

1961
01:33:10,133 --> 01:33:10,253
Speaker 27: is he?

1962
01:33:10,532 --> 01:33:11,173
Speaker 4: So it feels like.

1963
01:33:11,173 --> 01:33:14,173
Speaker 27: A cross politics. We've got these guys saying this is

1964
01:33:14,213 --> 01:33:18,133
Speaker 27: the candidate you are going to like, and actually people

1965
01:33:18,133 --> 01:33:20,492
Speaker 27: want it Donald Trump maybe yeah, gross.

1966
01:33:20,133 --> 01:33:21,532
Speaker 3: But again, I guess you could look at it and

1967
01:33:21,572 --> 01:33:24,133
Speaker 3: say the Democrat Party could say, well, they have had

1968
01:33:24,133 --> 01:33:28,692
Speaker 3: the president for probab let's say, apart from a little

1969
01:33:28,732 --> 01:33:30,612
Speaker 3: window of Trump, they've had the presidency for a very

1970
01:33:30,612 --> 01:33:31,012
Speaker 3: long time.

1971
01:33:31,133 --> 01:33:31,372
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1972
01:33:31,372 --> 01:33:34,012
Speaker 27: What self reflection would tell you, if you were truly

1973
01:33:34,053 --> 01:33:36,772
Speaker 27: honest with yourself as a Democrat, self reflection would tell

1974
01:33:36,772 --> 01:33:39,492
Speaker 27: you Biden didn't win because it was Biden. Biden won

1975
01:33:39,532 --> 01:33:41,852
Speaker 27: because Trump lost because he stuffed up COVID and people

1976
01:33:41,893 --> 01:33:44,293
Speaker 27: were freaked out after COVID and they wanted look at

1977
01:33:44,293 --> 01:33:47,412
Speaker 27: what happened in New Zealandjisinda wasn't even going to win here, right,

1978
01:33:47,532 --> 01:33:49,972
Speaker 27: and she won because of COVID because we freaked out

1979
01:33:49,973 --> 01:33:51,093
Speaker 27: and we were like, oh, we've just got to have,

1980
01:33:51,173 --> 01:33:54,213
Speaker 27: you know, like some stability. So that's not an indication

1981
01:33:54,333 --> 01:33:56,133
Speaker 27: that that was the wrong candidate. And so if you

1982
01:33:56,173 --> 01:33:58,412
Speaker 27: strip out, if you're completely honest with yourself, strip out

1983
01:33:58,412 --> 01:34:01,572
Speaker 27: all the abnormalities like COVID and stuff, Biden was the

1984
01:34:01,572 --> 01:34:03,612
Speaker 27: wrong guy to put up. Karmla's the wrong person to

1985
01:34:03,612 --> 01:34:05,293
Speaker 27: put up. I don't know if they have the self

1986
01:34:05,333 --> 01:34:06,732
Speaker 27: awareness to be honest with themselves.

1987
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Speaker 19: Yeah.

1988
01:34:07,093 --> 01:34:10,932
Speaker 3: Wow, it's exciting, great day. It's the most exciting election.

1989
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Speaker 21: It's gonna win, man.

1990
01:34:12,692 --> 01:34:15,892
Speaker 3: I think person that Trump's gonna win. I think he's

1991
01:34:15,933 --> 01:34:19,652
Speaker 3: more popular than he was in twenty sixteen when he won.

1992
01:34:19,853 --> 01:34:23,572
Speaker 3: I think people and I think people are more open

1993
01:34:24,013 --> 01:34:26,492
Speaker 3: and liking him. And I think it's the strangest thing

1994
01:34:26,652 --> 01:34:29,452
Speaker 3: where the Republicans now seem to be in America the

1995
01:34:29,452 --> 01:34:30,572
Speaker 3: party of the working class.

1996
01:34:30,652 --> 01:34:32,652
Speaker 27: Yes, totally, the same thing's happening to the Nats here.

1997
01:34:32,812 --> 01:34:34,652
Speaker 27: Does he win tonight? Do we find out tonight?

1998
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:35,773
Speaker 2: Ah?

1999
01:34:35,812 --> 01:34:38,812
Speaker 3: Look, that's a hard one to do. I hope my

2000
01:34:38,893 --> 01:34:40,973
Speaker 3: gut if we do, my gut feeling is that he

2001
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:41,452
Speaker 3: wins tonight.

2002
01:34:41,612 --> 01:34:44,612
Speaker 4: Okay, And what about you, Tyler, I'm going to go Trump,

2003
01:34:44,652 --> 01:34:47,333
Speaker 4: but it's going to be closer than people think.

2004
01:34:47,333 --> 01:34:48,412
Speaker 21: You don't find out tonight.

2005
01:34:48,572 --> 01:34:51,012
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't find out tonight. And I think Harris might

2006
01:34:51,053 --> 01:34:53,372
Speaker 4: take Pennsylvania. It's going to be close.

2007
01:34:53,893 --> 01:34:56,053
Speaker 21: I think maybe she takes Pennsylvania and he doesn't need it.

2008
01:34:56,293 --> 01:34:59,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well way.

2009
01:34:59,973 --> 01:35:01,772
Speaker 27: The first thing that came out of my mouth, obviously

2010
01:35:01,812 --> 01:35:03,213
Speaker 27: after why are you awake so early?

2011
01:35:03,293 --> 01:35:05,812
Speaker 3: Edgie, was I'm so excited here.

2012
01:35:05,973 --> 01:35:08,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is that. Hear that. Thank you very much.

2013
01:35:08,452 --> 01:35:10,293
Speaker 4: We'll catch you after four o'clock. That is hither to

2014
01:35:10,372 --> 01:35:13,492
Speaker 4: police the Allen of course, thrive hosts and tune and

2015
01:35:13,572 --> 01:35:15,812
Speaker 4: after four o'clock because it's going to be a great show.

2016
01:35:15,973 --> 01:35:18,133
Speaker 4: Right after the headlines, we're going to pick back up

2017
01:35:18,173 --> 01:35:20,732
Speaker 4: your phone calls. We've got a lot of American New

2018
01:35:20,812 --> 01:35:22,772
Speaker 4: Zealanders who have called through, and we're going to have

2019
01:35:22,812 --> 01:35:24,372
Speaker 4: a chat to you on oh, eight hundred and eighty

2020
01:35:24,492 --> 01:35:26,492
Speaker 4: ten eighty he are you feeling? What way do you

2021
01:35:26,532 --> 01:35:28,173
Speaker 4: think it will go? Let's get into it. Nine two

2022
01:35:28,253 --> 01:35:30,133
Speaker 4: nine two is the text number, twenty nine past three.

2023
01:35:32,973 --> 01:35:35,133
Speaker 1: You talk savvy headlines with.

2024
01:35:35,173 --> 01:35:38,132
Speaker 15: Blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2025
01:35:38,612 --> 01:35:41,492
Speaker 15: Polls in the US election have closed across a large

2026
01:35:41,572 --> 01:35:44,732
Speaker 15: majority of states with a long night of counting still

2027
01:35:44,732 --> 01:35:49,172
Speaker 15: a hit. Later, CNN projections have Carmala Harris on fifty

2028
01:35:49,213 --> 01:35:52,412
Speaker 15: three electoral votes and Donald Trump on one hundred and

2029
01:35:52,412 --> 01:35:56,253
Speaker 15: fifty four. Either needs to seventy to win. Can Ann's

2030
01:35:56,293 --> 01:35:59,572
Speaker 15: John King says if Trump holds North Carolina and Georgia,

2031
01:35:59,652 --> 01:36:03,772
Speaker 15: where he's presently leading, Harris will likely need Pennsylvania to

2032
01:36:03,853 --> 01:36:04,932
Speaker 15: get to two seventy.

2033
01:36:05,093 --> 01:36:06,372
Speaker 3: That's what makes the mouth interesting.

2034
01:36:06,452 --> 01:36:08,852
Speaker 4: She needs that nineteen votes right there, because if Donald

2035
01:36:08,893 --> 01:36:10,852
Speaker 4: Trump gets that, it gets into the finish light.

2036
01:36:11,412 --> 01:36:14,692
Speaker 15: Southern mayors have presented a petition at Parliament asking the

2037
01:36:14,732 --> 01:36:17,972
Speaker 15: government to reverse cuts to the new Dunedin Hospital build.

2038
01:36:18,812 --> 01:36:22,213
Speaker 15: Three Chinese nationals have been arrested trying to leave New

2039
01:36:22,253 --> 01:36:26,252
Speaker 15: Zealand with large sums of cash from alleged scan victims.

2040
01:36:26,572 --> 01:36:30,333
Speaker 15: It involved deceiving immigrant or elderly communities into believing they

2041
01:36:30,612 --> 01:36:35,213
Speaker 15: or loved ones are cursed or in spiritual danger. Hotted

2042
01:36:35,293 --> 01:36:38,933
Speaker 15: up and lowered lawn mower races will feature in this

2043
01:36:39,053 --> 01:36:41,572
Speaker 15: year's christ Yurt Show to run in place of the

2044
01:36:41,572 --> 01:36:45,732
Speaker 15: cash Strapped Agricultural show. Why the All Blacks must follow

2045
01:36:45,772 --> 01:36:49,573
Speaker 15: the Irish example to fill the problematic number ten conundrum.

2046
01:36:49,812 --> 01:36:51,933
Speaker 15: You can see Greek or Paul's full column at En

2047
01:36:52,013 --> 01:36:55,092
Speaker 15: said Herald Premium. Now back to Matteth and Tyler Adams.

2048
01:36:55,093 --> 01:36:57,293
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty eight minutes

2049
01:36:57,293 --> 01:37:00,452
Speaker 4: before let's go back to the US. US correspondent Dad

2050
01:37:00,492 --> 01:37:02,052
Speaker 4: Mitchardson is with US Live.

2051
01:37:02,253 --> 01:37:04,493
Speaker 2: Hey, Dan, Hey, good afternoon.

2052
01:37:05,293 --> 01:37:07,412
Speaker 3: So where are we sitting on the electoral votes at

2053
01:37:07,412 --> 01:37:07,812
Speaker 3: the moment?

2054
01:37:08,812 --> 01:37:11,732
Speaker 28: Well, right now, Donald Trump is leading one seventy seven

2055
01:37:11,772 --> 01:37:13,732
Speaker 28: to ninety nine and as you just heard on the

2056
01:37:13,772 --> 01:37:16,572
Speaker 28: update there, the winner needs to reach two hundred and seventy.

2057
01:37:16,812 --> 01:37:19,492
Speaker 28: The polls are still open though out west here in California,

2058
01:37:19,572 --> 01:37:23,532
Speaker 28: Alaska and Hawaii. So the thing to remembers, as you've

2059
01:37:23,572 --> 01:37:26,253
Speaker 28: probably been talking about all day, is that even as

2060
01:37:26,253 --> 01:37:28,333
Speaker 28: you're seeing these projections on TV and you hear them

2061
01:37:28,333 --> 01:37:30,053
Speaker 28: on the radio, we may not very well know who

2062
01:37:30,053 --> 01:37:32,812
Speaker 28: wins the presidential election until the end of the week.

2063
01:37:33,333 --> 01:37:35,692
Speaker 4: What are the big states you're watching at the moment, Dan,

2064
01:37:35,812 --> 01:37:37,652
Speaker 4: and is it still too early to pick some of

2065
01:37:37,692 --> 01:37:38,533
Speaker 4: those battlegrounds.

2066
01:37:39,253 --> 01:37:41,532
Speaker 28: Well, I mean there's the swing states that everybody's keeping

2067
01:37:41,532 --> 01:37:43,893
Speaker 28: an eye on right now, Arizona and Georgia and Michigan,

2068
01:37:43,933 --> 01:37:47,173
Speaker 28: Nevada and North Carolina, Pennsylvania, which is an important state

2069
01:37:47,213 --> 01:37:52,053
Speaker 28: for both candidates, and Wisconsin. But you know, no matter

2070
01:37:52,093 --> 01:37:54,852
Speaker 28: the outcome here, the Harris campaign officials just announced a

2071
01:37:54,853 --> 01:37:57,172
Speaker 28: short time ago they're going to have to take probably

2072
01:37:57,333 --> 01:38:00,093
Speaker 28: days to declare this winner, and they're bracing for a

2073
01:38:00,133 --> 01:38:02,892
Speaker 28: legal fallout that could extend into weeks or maybe months.

2074
01:38:03,572 --> 01:38:05,372
Speaker 2: With with Donald Trump right now and.

2075
01:38:05,293 --> 01:38:07,012
Speaker 28: The lines, I've got to tell you guys, the lines

2076
01:38:07,053 --> 01:38:10,213
Speaker 28: for voting have been extremely long. Some people have said

2077
01:38:10,213 --> 01:38:12,412
Speaker 28: they've they've waited in line up to six hours to

2078
01:38:12,452 --> 01:38:15,852
Speaker 28: cast their vote. My wife dropped off my son's ballot today.

2079
01:38:16,253 --> 01:38:19,532
Speaker 28: This was his first time voting, and that was about

2080
01:38:19,532 --> 01:38:21,732
Speaker 28: a forty five minute wait just to drop the ballot

2081
01:38:21,732 --> 01:38:23,852
Speaker 28: into the box, not to vote. So these people that

2082
01:38:23,933 --> 01:38:26,372
Speaker 28: haven't actually voted yet have been waiting five or six

2083
01:38:26,412 --> 01:38:27,412
Speaker 28: hours in a lot of states.

2084
01:38:27,572 --> 01:38:29,652
Speaker 3: You love them or hate them, Trump definitely brings out

2085
01:38:29,692 --> 01:38:31,892
Speaker 3: the votes to either people that want to finish them

2086
01:38:31,893 --> 01:38:33,572
Speaker 3: off for people that want to support them. Are the

2087
01:38:33,612 --> 01:38:35,452
Speaker 3: polls matching the results so far?

2088
01:38:37,093 --> 01:38:40,012
Speaker 28: I mean that's really hard to say right now. I mean,

2089
01:38:40,093 --> 01:38:42,972
Speaker 28: you've you've got a lot of people that are still

2090
01:38:43,053 --> 01:38:44,012
Speaker 28: sort of on the fence.

2091
01:38:44,133 --> 01:38:47,452
Speaker 2: I think these these battleground states.

2092
01:38:47,492 --> 01:38:49,972
Speaker 28: I mean, I just can't overemphasize how important they are,

2093
01:38:50,093 --> 01:38:53,333
Speaker 28: how pivotal they are to the to the path of victory.

2094
01:38:53,372 --> 01:38:57,012
Speaker 28: And and it doesn't matter what poll that you look

2095
01:38:57,053 --> 01:39:00,213
Speaker 28: at at this point or which network you watch for

2096
01:39:00,293 --> 01:39:02,532
Speaker 28: these election predictions. I think this has been one of

2097
01:39:02,612 --> 01:39:05,732
Speaker 28: the craziest elections that I can remember, certainly in my lifetime.

2098
01:39:05,772 --> 01:39:07,972
Speaker 28: I mean, I mean, you've got one of the most

2099
01:39:08,053 --> 01:39:10,293
Speaker 28: angry from both sides. You've got one of the least

2100
01:39:10,293 --> 01:39:12,692
Speaker 28: civil when you look at the debates they had, and

2101
01:39:12,732 --> 01:39:14,293
Speaker 28: one of the most stressful. And it's not just for

2102
01:39:14,372 --> 01:39:16,732
Speaker 28: voters too, but I think it's for people that are

2103
01:39:16,732 --> 01:39:17,972
Speaker 28: actually covering the process.

2104
01:39:18,013 --> 01:39:18,293
Speaker 2: Over here.

2105
01:39:18,333 --> 01:39:21,333
Speaker 28: I've seen more people leave the media citing the stress

2106
01:39:21,372 --> 01:39:24,253
Speaker 28: and burnout from partisan politicians and very good people that

2107
01:39:24,293 --> 01:39:26,372
Speaker 28: have gone into other professions, which is a shame and

2108
01:39:26,412 --> 01:39:28,052
Speaker 28: a big loss for our community.

2109
01:39:28,372 --> 01:39:31,412
Speaker 3: I mean, it is crazy we forget because the cycle's

2110
01:39:31,452 --> 01:39:33,612
Speaker 3: spinning so fast at the moment that we forget that

2111
01:39:33,652 --> 01:39:35,973
Speaker 3: Trump got shot at one point, and we forget that

2112
01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:40,452
Speaker 3: the standing president stood down. Those two events on their

2113
01:39:40,492 --> 01:39:42,812
Speaker 3: own make it one of the craziest elections of all time,

2114
01:39:42,853 --> 01:39:44,613
Speaker 3: but both of them happening. It's insane.

2115
01:39:45,372 --> 01:39:45,972
Speaker 2: Well, you're right.

2116
01:39:46,053 --> 01:39:48,612
Speaker 28: And I was asked earlier today what I thought the

2117
01:39:48,652 --> 01:39:52,812
Speaker 28: most pivotal point in the election between Harris and Donald

2118
01:39:52,853 --> 01:39:53,852
Speaker 28: Trump was, and I said.

2119
01:39:53,692 --> 01:39:56,732
Speaker 2: It had to be Joe Biden just because he stood down.

2120
01:39:56,772 --> 01:39:59,013
Speaker 28: I mean, if he was still running against Trump right now,

2121
01:39:59,093 --> 01:40:01,932
Speaker 28: I think we would see a clear, strong front runner

2122
01:40:01,973 --> 01:40:03,692
Speaker 28: in this race, and that would have been Donald Trump.

2123
01:40:04,013 --> 01:40:08,092
Speaker 28: Kamala Harris is a person that, like most vice presidents

2124
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:10,412
Speaker 28: over here right now, you know the name, you see

2125
01:40:10,412 --> 01:40:12,733
Speaker 28: them on the news occasionally, but you kind of project

2126
01:40:12,772 --> 01:40:15,133
Speaker 28: what you want onto that person because they're not front

2127
01:40:15,173 --> 01:40:17,492
Speaker 28: and center. And as you get to know more about

2128
01:40:17,492 --> 01:40:19,852
Speaker 28: that person, like we did with Harris when she started

2129
01:40:19,933 --> 01:40:24,012
Speaker 28: running for president, you either like that person or you decide, well,

2130
01:40:24,013 --> 01:40:26,612
Speaker 28: maybe that's not the person I was hoping she would be.

2131
01:40:27,133 --> 01:40:28,572
Speaker 28: And I think that's what a lot of voters were

2132
01:40:28,572 --> 01:40:30,692
Speaker 28: trying to decide over the last month or six weeks.

2133
01:40:30,812 --> 01:40:33,372
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the lightest with this bomb scare out of Georgia.

2134
01:40:34,572 --> 01:40:38,293
Speaker 28: Well, there's been a number of bomb scares actually right here,

2135
01:40:38,333 --> 01:40:40,333
Speaker 28: there's none that have been I mean they've all been

2136
01:40:40,333 --> 01:40:42,933
Speaker 28: taken seriously. They were called into a number of locations.

2137
01:40:43,293 --> 01:40:45,652
Speaker 28: None have been proven to be authentic. In Georgia, they

2138
01:40:45,652 --> 01:40:48,612
Speaker 28: had something like twelve voting locations, I think, And as

2139
01:40:48,612 --> 01:40:50,692
Speaker 28: a result, they're going to have their hours extended or

2140
01:40:50,732 --> 01:40:53,253
Speaker 28: did have their hours extended slightly, just because of those threats,

2141
01:40:53,253 --> 01:40:55,612
Speaker 28: and they want to make sure they get as many

2142
01:40:55,652 --> 01:40:58,292
Speaker 28: voters through the doors as possible.

2143
01:40:58,333 --> 01:41:00,813
Speaker 2: There and then there were Milwaukee.

2144
01:41:00,893 --> 01:41:04,892
Speaker 28: They're rerunning thirty plus thousand ballots through a tabulator machine.

2145
01:41:04,893 --> 01:41:06,412
Speaker 28: There was an error that was pointed out by an

2146
01:41:06,412 --> 01:41:09,053
Speaker 28: election worker who noticed that one of the doors wasn't

2147
01:41:09,053 --> 01:41:12,093
Speaker 28: closed properly. So anytime you have something like that over here,

2148
01:41:12,133 --> 01:41:15,132
Speaker 28: you don't want one of the candidates saying this was illegal,

2149
01:41:15,213 --> 01:41:17,812
Speaker 28: or this was fake, or is this is rigged, which

2150
01:41:18,093 --> 01:41:22,293
Speaker 28: Donald Trump has already suggested several times on X. So

2151
01:41:22,532 --> 01:41:25,293
Speaker 28: they're trying to be as careful as they can and

2152
01:41:25,692 --> 01:41:27,892
Speaker 28: maybe doing a second or even a third count they

2153
01:41:27,933 --> 01:41:29,213
Speaker 28: have to in some locations.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of X and the general social media feed and

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Speaker 3: text machine nine two ninety two. Here at ZB everyone's

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01:41:37,532 --> 01:41:39,692
Speaker 3: talking about peanut the squirrel. Is this going to be

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Speaker 3: a deciding factor in the election.

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Speaker 28: I've got to tell you, I am not familiar with

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Speaker 28: Peanut the squirrel.

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Speaker 2: Enlighten me.

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Speaker 4: So they're saying that Peanut the squirrel, a person owned

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01:41:55,652 --> 01:42:00,572
Speaker 4: Peanut the squirrel. Then law informed enforcement kept down the door,

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01:42:00,692 --> 01:42:03,732
Speaker 4: grabbed Peanut the squirrel from inside the house, and euthanase

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01:42:03,772 --> 01:42:06,412
Speaker 4: Peanut the squirrel. And this is being used an example

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Speaker 4: of governmental overreach.

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Speaker 28: You know, I'm just looking at the picture right now

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01:42:11,053 --> 01:42:13,652
Speaker 28: and you're, oh, my gosh, he's even wearing a little

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Speaker 28: cowboy Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've gone full circle, isn't it in terms

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Speaker 4: of the craziness of an American election.

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Speaker 16: Wow?

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01:42:19,973 --> 01:42:22,372
Speaker 4: Yeah, the president stands down one of the older the

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01:42:22,372 --> 01:42:24,293
Speaker 4: candidates get shot, but it all comes down to pean

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Speaker 4: up the squirrel.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 28: There are times that I really envy your holding classes

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Speaker 28: there and the UK because it is so quick and

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01:42:31,612 --> 01:42:33,772
Speaker 28: it is here, and it's over with so fast. And

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Speaker 28: as soon as this election is over here in eighteen months,

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Speaker 28: we're going to start this all over again, because we've

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Speaker 28: got twenty twenty eighthes down the road.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Dan, thank you very much, all the best for tonight,

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01:42:43,812 --> 01:42:47,012
Speaker 4: and we'll chat again soon. Sounds good, That is us

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01:42:47,013 --> 01:42:50,652
Speaker 4: correspondent Dan Mitchinson. We'll get to more of your calls

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01:42:50,772 --> 01:42:53,053
Speaker 4: very shortly and also mate of yours Matt, that we're

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01:42:53,053 --> 01:42:53,812
Speaker 4: going to have a chat too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Chris. So he's my American friend and

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01:42:57,372 --> 01:43:00,492
Speaker 3: his lovely wife Liz, and I've become friends with them

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01:43:00,532 --> 01:43:01,692
Speaker 3: over the years, and so I was talking to him

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01:43:01,692 --> 01:43:04,572
Speaker 3: about election and his take on it was you New

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01:43:04,652 --> 01:43:06,372
Speaker 3: Zealander seem to care a lot more about it than

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01:43:06,452 --> 01:43:09,213
Speaker 3: my friends and family back home. We mainly talking about sport.

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Speaker 4: Yeap, looking forward to that. It is twenty one minutes

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Speaker 4: to four.

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01:43:13,692 --> 01:43:16,973
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: you for twenty twenty four US talk, said b very.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon to you. It is nineteen minutes to four

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Speaker 4: oh eight. One hundred and eighty teen eighty is the

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Speaker 4: number to call. Love to hear from you if you're

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Speaker 4: watching the election, listening to the election. How are you feeling, Kelly,

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Speaker 4: How are you this afternoon?

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01:43:36,372 --> 01:43:36,972
Speaker 29: I'm great?

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Speaker 4: How are you very good? Now you've got a bit

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01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:41,213
Speaker 4: of an American twang to that accent?

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01:43:41,293 --> 01:43:44,093
Speaker 29: Is that right from Philadelphia?

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01:43:44,412 --> 01:43:44,612
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Stick, that's an important, important state, isn't it for this election?

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Speaker 3: Any any feelings on how which way it's going.

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Speaker 29: Uh, Well, the first thing to come in is always

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01:43:58,213 --> 01:44:04,853
Speaker 29: Philadelphia and Philadelphia City and Pittsburgh because their computer systems

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01:44:04,933 --> 01:44:07,973
Speaker 29: are more effective than what you see out and the

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01:44:07,973 --> 01:44:13,772
Speaker 29: rest of the county. So I think that Camilla is

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01:44:13,853 --> 01:44:19,372
Speaker 29: breaking early because those are her strongholds, and we'll have

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01:44:19,492 --> 01:44:22,213
Speaker 29: to see until the match for the manual counting to

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01:44:22,213 --> 01:44:24,852
Speaker 29: come in from the other counties before we really know anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very hard for her to win the election

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01:44:28,013 --> 01:44:31,692
Speaker 3: without winning Pennsylvania. What's it like for you being over here?

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01:44:31,732 --> 01:44:33,053
Speaker 3: How long have you been here? And what's it like

2220
01:44:33,053 --> 01:44:36,293
Speaker 3: for you to be in New Zealand watching the election

2221
01:44:36,853 --> 01:44:39,572
Speaker 3: happening in your home country and watching us watching that

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01:44:39,612 --> 01:44:41,172
Speaker 3: election happening in your home country.

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Speaker 29: Well, it's it's hard because you know, of course, it's

2224
01:44:47,692 --> 01:44:53,412
Speaker 29: it's more interesting when you're actually living it, and this

2225
01:44:53,612 --> 01:44:58,372
Speaker 29: is about as far away as you can get. But yeah,

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01:44:58,412 --> 01:45:00,772
Speaker 29: I've been here since twenty eleven. I'm married to a

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01:45:00,853 --> 01:45:04,372
Speaker 29: Kiwi and I'm in a New Zealand citizen at this stage,

2228
01:45:04,492 --> 01:45:06,852
Speaker 29: so I've been living here for quite a while. But

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01:45:07,053 --> 01:45:12,092
Speaker 29: I did do my paper a crazy process ballot last

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01:45:12,133 --> 01:45:15,492
Speaker 29: month and send it in our early. So that's good, yea,

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01:45:16,372 --> 01:45:20,452
Speaker 29: And yeah, I mean, you know, my family is very

2232
01:45:20,492 --> 01:45:23,772
Speaker 29: political and split right down the middle. I've got a

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01:45:23,853 --> 01:45:27,852
Speaker 29: daughter who is a rabid liberal and I've got a

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01:45:27,973 --> 01:45:31,932
Speaker 29: son who is a conservative, and you know, so.

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Speaker 3: It goes well, that's really interesting you say that. That's

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01:45:34,772 --> 01:45:36,412
Speaker 3: really interesting to say that, Kelly, because I was talking

2237
01:45:36,452 --> 01:45:40,333
Speaker 3: before about a poll that said that females in America

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01:45:40,372 --> 01:45:44,812
Speaker 3: are breaking by eighteen points towards Kamala and male's a

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01:45:44,933 --> 01:45:48,092
Speaker 3: break now seventeen points towards Kamala, and males are breaking

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Speaker 3: eighteen points towards Trump. So there's definitely a divide coming

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01:45:53,772 --> 01:45:56,293
Speaker 3: between male and females in terms of their support, and

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01:45:56,333 --> 01:45:58,652
Speaker 3: it seems like it's playing out exactly in your family.

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01:46:00,412 --> 01:46:08,692
Speaker 29: Well except for me, because I'm a Republican, all right, mother,

2244
01:46:09,053 --> 01:46:11,333
Speaker 29: I'm somewhere to the right of Attila the Hunt.

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01:46:13,173 --> 01:46:16,532
Speaker 4: And have you been making recently, Kelly? Going make for Christmas?

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01:46:16,973 --> 01:46:21,093
Speaker 29: I'm going back for Thanksgiving, which could be a really.

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01:46:20,853 --> 01:46:25,213
Speaker 3: Interesting immediately up with the politics before, before the pump

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01:46:25,213 --> 01:46:27,412
Speaker 3: copies breaking.

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Speaker 29: I mean, yeah, we have a rule where we're actually

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Speaker 29: not allowed to talk about it because people, the people

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01:46:36,452 --> 01:46:41,492
Speaker 29: really get kind of wound up. But yeah, it's uh,

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01:46:41,612 --> 01:46:46,612
Speaker 29: it's tough because you know, it's the reality is that

2253
01:46:46,772 --> 01:46:50,572
Speaker 29: whoever gets in, it's not gonna you know, the world

2254
01:46:50,652 --> 01:46:52,852
Speaker 29: is going to keep turning, life is going to keep

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01:46:52,933 --> 01:46:54,372
Speaker 29: going on. And I don't know.

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Speaker 30: I'm my first election that I voted in was Ronald Reagan,

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01:46:59,893 --> 01:47:04,532
Speaker 30: so I've been voting for a long time. And reality

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01:47:04,652 --> 01:47:08,253
Speaker 30: is that the substantive changes that happened, and you know,

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01:47:08,412 --> 01:47:12,213
Speaker 30: America mostly had to do with the economy around the

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01:47:12,692 --> 01:47:16,053
Speaker 30: who's in office. And you know, I hate to say it,

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01:47:16,133 --> 01:47:19,652
Speaker 30: but coming up on retirement, I'm interested in not having

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01:47:19,652 --> 01:47:22,012
Speaker 30: to pay tax on my Social Security benefits.

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Speaker 4: That's cool, It's fair enough too, Kelly, thank you very much,

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 3: Now, Chris, welcome to the show. Now, Chris, you're you're

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01:47:31,612 --> 01:47:34,452
Speaker 3: a friend of mine that's moved over from Chicago to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen.

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01:47:38,572 --> 01:47:39,213
Speaker 10: That is right.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Chris, and we were having an interesting discussion before,

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01:47:43,372 --> 01:47:46,012
Speaker 3: and you were saying that in your circle of friends

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01:47:46,772 --> 01:47:49,132
Speaker 3: back in the States and in your and your WhatsApp

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01:47:49,173 --> 01:47:54,492
Speaker 3: groups and such, politics isn't brought up that much exactly.

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01:47:54,532 --> 01:47:55,852
Speaker 31: And I think This is a sort of a different

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01:47:55,853 --> 01:47:58,933
Speaker 31: advantage point that I think what you're hearing is not

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01:47:59,133 --> 01:48:01,293
Speaker 31: very politically involved here, and I don't think the election

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01:48:01,372 --> 01:48:04,452
Speaker 31: has come up in many conversations among my circles here,

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01:48:04,492 --> 01:48:07,692
Speaker 31: and it's just not a huge talking point. That's kind

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01:48:07,692 --> 01:48:11,492
Speaker 31: of why it's sin thing seeing kind of plays just

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01:48:11,572 --> 01:48:14,133
Speaker 31: kind of how it plays plays kind of so far

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01:48:14,173 --> 01:48:16,253
Speaker 31: away from here in New Zealand. But no, I don't

2283
01:48:16,293 --> 01:48:19,333
Speaker 31: think there's there's definitely definitely a large portion of Americans

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01:48:19,372 --> 01:48:21,372
Speaker 31: that are not very, very so invested.

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01:48:21,492 --> 01:48:24,093
Speaker 4: So you get someone like, hey, there's a Kiwi who

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01:48:24,173 --> 01:48:26,772
Speaker 4: just punishes you with American election talk and you're not

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01:48:26,853 --> 01:48:27,412
Speaker 4: let into it.

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01:48:27,452 --> 01:48:29,572
Speaker 3: Wow, that's not fair. I actually punish you mainly with

2289
01:48:29,612 --> 01:48:33,293
Speaker 3: their fantasy league, which I'm currently at the top of

2290
01:48:33,293 --> 01:48:36,452
Speaker 3: Flinkle Clutch, a great league. Currently I am the commissioner,

2291
01:48:36,452 --> 01:48:37,293
Speaker 3: but I am at number one.

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01:48:38,772 --> 01:48:42,333
Speaker 31: Yes you are fantompol. Yes, I'm a lot more invested

2293
01:48:42,372 --> 01:48:44,452
Speaker 31: in our fantasy footbawl league than I am that I

2294
01:48:44,452 --> 01:48:46,173
Speaker 31: am in this election, but not at the same time

2295
01:48:46,213 --> 01:48:48,333
Speaker 31: yet it is it is a friend of mine, a

2296
01:48:48,372 --> 01:48:51,452
Speaker 31: lot of Kiwis. I could definitely you're checking out it

2297
01:48:51,492 --> 01:48:53,932
Speaker 31: at four square and I just remember this last couple

2298
01:48:53,973 --> 01:48:56,532
Speaker 31: of weeks that people are asking about your your opinion

2299
01:48:56,572 --> 01:49:00,293
Speaker 31: on Trump or I think somebody I'm from Chicago, somebody

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01:49:00,333 --> 01:49:04,052
Speaker 31: asked me how I thought about the mayoral election recently,

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01:49:04,093 --> 01:49:04,692
Speaker 31: which I had.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't tell you.

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01:49:05,692 --> 01:49:08,173
Speaker 31: I couldn't tell you any candidates, but I know it

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01:49:08,253 --> 01:49:11,732
Speaker 31: is it is interesting to hear how how how I invested?

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01:49:11,772 --> 01:49:12,572
Speaker 31: You guys are.

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01:49:12,572 --> 01:49:15,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And that's that's the thing, isn't it. And

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01:49:15,372 --> 01:49:17,812
Speaker 3: when in New Zealand, we see social media and we

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01:49:17,893 --> 01:49:20,572
Speaker 3: see the cable news networks, so we see the most

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01:49:20,893 --> 01:49:24,093
Speaker 3: hyper engaged people in the election, Americans in election, and

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01:49:24,133 --> 01:49:26,333
Speaker 3: we just assume everyone in the States is running around

2311
01:49:26,333 --> 01:49:28,652
Speaker 3: sitting the here on fire, freaking out about the election.

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01:49:28,772 --> 01:49:31,612
Speaker 3: So it's nice to talk to an American who's more

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01:49:31,732 --> 01:49:32,572
Speaker 3: interested in sport.

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01:49:33,492 --> 01:49:36,692
Speaker 31: Yeah, it's it's a vocal miority minority, right that you

2315
01:49:36,732 --> 01:49:39,053
Speaker 31: see through social media and that you see through the

2316
01:49:39,053 --> 01:49:41,253
Speaker 31: news outlets, and we get like me, I think it's

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01:49:41,293 --> 01:49:44,133
Speaker 31: coming in New Zealand. Now it's almost like I like,

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01:49:44,173 --> 01:49:46,692
Speaker 31: and it's almost seem like a traffic jam, but you're

2319
01:49:46,732 --> 01:49:48,372
Speaker 31: like on the other side of the highway as you

2320
01:49:48,452 --> 01:49:51,333
Speaker 31: kind of cruise by. There's so much commotion on the

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01:49:51,333 --> 01:49:53,772
Speaker 31: other side. You're kind of interested, you're glad or not

2322
01:49:53,853 --> 01:49:56,492
Speaker 31: into it, like maybe there is a car crash upcoming,

2323
01:49:56,732 --> 01:49:58,933
Speaker 31: but you're just it's really just a we're going to

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01:49:58,933 --> 01:50:00,372
Speaker 31: see it from the other side. We're going to cruise

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01:50:00,412 --> 01:50:00,932
Speaker 31: right on through.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Chris. Great to talk to you.

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01:50:02,812 --> 01:50:04,893
Speaker 3: And if you are freaking out about the election, I

2328
01:50:04,933 --> 01:50:06,852
Speaker 3: thought i'd try and do something to try and help people,

2329
01:50:06,853 --> 01:50:09,132
Speaker 3: because I know people are very about it.

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Speaker 4: It's a charge.

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01:50:09,973 --> 01:50:12,173
Speaker 3: Saw Tim Rocksburgh out there and he was he's quite

2332
01:50:12,173 --> 01:50:14,133
Speaker 3: stressed about things. So I wrote an article called, don't

2333
01:50:14,133 --> 01:50:16,452
Speaker 3: worry about the US election. The future is so uncertain

2334
01:50:16,492 --> 01:50:18,692
Speaker 3: you might be freaking out in the wrong direction. And

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01:50:18,732 --> 01:50:21,133
Speaker 3: you can read that at Matt Heath dot substack dot

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01:50:21,173 --> 01:50:23,732
Speaker 3: com Matt Heath dot substack dot com. You can read

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01:50:23,732 --> 01:50:24,093
Speaker 3: that for free.

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01:50:24,412 --> 01:50:27,213
Speaker 4: Very good Chres. Good to chance and hopefully you smash

2339
01:50:27,253 --> 01:50:29,452
Speaker 4: Matt Matt in the Fantasy league. Are you number one?

2340
01:50:29,933 --> 01:50:30,173
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2341
01:50:30,532 --> 01:50:33,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, amazing team. I was unlucky in the draft.

2342
01:50:33,612 --> 01:50:36,452
Speaker 3: But I've just I've just I'm just I've just been

2343
01:50:36,532 --> 01:50:38,572
Speaker 3: picking using the waiver system. Let's not get into this

2344
01:50:38,612 --> 01:50:41,732
Speaker 3: I could talk about fantasy football forever, Tony.

2345
01:50:41,772 --> 01:50:47,213
Speaker 9: How are you, my friend, gentleman Tom shy brief. I'm

2346
01:50:47,333 --> 01:50:51,013
Speaker 9: going to pick Carmela Harris to win only because of

2347
01:50:51,053 --> 01:50:54,253
Speaker 9: that particular college professor who seems to get it right. You.

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01:50:54,372 --> 01:50:54,812
Speaker 3: I've seen.

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01:50:56,253 --> 01:50:56,333
Speaker 4: You.

2350
01:50:56,412 --> 01:50:59,532
Speaker 3: I've seen a few people seen that through what's what's

2351
01:50:59,532 --> 01:51:00,333
Speaker 3: the professor's name.

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01:51:01,772 --> 01:51:03,452
Speaker 9: I haven't got it right in front of me, but

2353
01:51:03,492 --> 01:51:05,732
Speaker 9: I've read articles about him, and the only one that

2354
01:51:05,772 --> 01:51:08,692
Speaker 9: he got wrong was the one that el Gore last.

2355
01:51:08,732 --> 01:51:12,412
Speaker 9: And his argument against why he why he got it

2356
01:51:12,452 --> 01:51:14,492
Speaker 9: wrong was the fact that a lot of the Florida

2357
01:51:14,572 --> 01:51:16,973
Speaker 9: votes and that particular election weren't allowed. They wouldn't been

2358
01:51:17,333 --> 01:51:20,812
Speaker 9: eligible or something, and if if Agore had won the

2359
01:51:20,973 --> 01:51:23,372
Speaker 9: Florida seat, he would have taken the election against Bush.

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01:51:23,412 --> 01:51:23,812
Speaker 9: To see, but.

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01:51:25,893 --> 01:51:28,572
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the guy that has the thirteen keys to

2362
01:51:28,612 --> 01:51:30,972
Speaker 4: the White House, and he indicates each of those keys

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01:51:31,013 --> 01:51:32,813
Speaker 4: are ye, yeah.

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01:51:32,492 --> 01:51:33,092
Speaker 9: That's the one.

2365
01:51:33,173 --> 01:51:35,852
Speaker 4: And he's still picking Harris. The latest pick from him,

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01:51:36,093 --> 01:51:38,812
Speaker 4: judging on those thirteen keys, that was still leaning towards Harris.

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01:51:40,333 --> 01:51:40,572
Speaker 24: Yeah.

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01:51:40,652 --> 01:51:42,692
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, well he sort of made his mind up.

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Speaker 9: He's basically stated that she will get cheat. She will

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Speaker 9: become the president. I guess I look at it like

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Speaker 9: he knows a lot more than I do about it.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I'd probably back Harris, and I think for

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Speaker 9: New Zealand it would be a lot better if she does.

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Speaker 9: Want to be honest, you know, if i'm mister Trump,

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Speaker 9: if he comes in, he's going to put tariffs on

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Speaker 9: products in this sort of thing, and he's going to

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Speaker 9: make it quite difficult for some exporters, you know, keep

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Speaker 9: our fingers crossed.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yep, No, good one, your take, Thank your mate,

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Speaker 4: Go well, enjoy the rest of the afternoon and evening.

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Speaker 4: Got to get to a break. It is ten minutes

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Speaker 4: to four and after four o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, after the after the air break, you've got a

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Speaker 4: bit of a less style.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I'm just going to finish the show

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Speaker 3: on an up buzz by playing five American songs just

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Speaker 3: to celebrate this great day, this great day for democracy.

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Speaker 4: Arguably, it has nine minutes to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used talk sad B B.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon. It is six to four.

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Speaker 3: This has been the craziest US election ever. The new

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Speaker 3: cycle is now so tight that Trump got shot and

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Speaker 3: the media had moved on in less than a week.

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Speaker 3: The sitting president was clear he wanted to run, and

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Speaker 3: then he messed up so badly in a debate the

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Speaker 3: VP got the ticket. As Winston Churchill said, democracy is

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Speaker 3: the worst form of government except for all those other

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Speaker 3: forms that have been tried. But democracy is being tried.

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Speaker 3: Social media companies have changed everything. The algorithm has things

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Speaker 3: so polarized. It's very hard to tell the truth. We

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Speaker 3: are living in our media bubbles, and mainstream media isn't helping.

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Speaker 3: One of the consequences of this bubble dome is the

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Speaker 3: male female political divide. In the States, females support Kamla

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Speaker 3: plus seventeen, male support Trump plus eighteen. That's a thirty

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Speaker 3: four point shift between the sexes, growing at up to

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Speaker 3: five percent a year. Men are feeling abandoned by the left,

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Speaker 3: and in New Zealand they're feeling the same way too.

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Speaker 3: How does the world in which the sexes are diametrically

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Speaker 3: opposed politically work out. I'm going to predict not good.

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Speaker 3: So how do we get out of our bubbles. There

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Speaker 3: was only one answer. Go to the source material, look

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01:53:51,933 --> 01:53:54,652
Speaker 3: it up. Watch two minutes before and after the audio

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01:53:54,652 --> 01:53:58,452
Speaker 3: grab you're furious about on TikTok. Listen to long form

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01:53:58,532 --> 01:54:01,532
Speaker 3: interviews with politicians. Two hours with a politician, and you

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01:54:01,572 --> 01:54:04,492
Speaker 3: will find out who they are. Most of all, listen

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Speaker 3: to opposing opinions. Try and get your head around other

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Speaker 3: people's ideas. You might find out you are angry about

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Speaker 3: things that aren't even true. That's my goal. To steal

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Speaker 3: man the opposing argument, ask if they have a point.

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Speaker 3: If we don't do that, then the social media companies

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Speaker 3: who earn from division make the money from it, and

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Speaker 3: democracy becomes very difficult. Break your bubble, people, find the truth,

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Speaker 3: and then at least you can be a legitimate part

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Speaker 3: of your democracy. It's better than any other system unless

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Speaker 3: we all decide to sit under the thumb of the

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Speaker 3: skewed incentives of the evil social media giants. Here's looking

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Speaker 3: at you, TikTok, Meta and all the dirty rest of you.

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Speaker 3: Break your bubbles, find the truth. It will hurt having

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Speaker 3: your belief challenge, but all of us both sides, really

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Speaker 3: need to start doing it. If we do that, then

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Speaker 3: to semi quote Winston Churchill. Again, democracy will not go

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Speaker 3: quietly into the.

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Speaker 4: Night, very nicely, said Matt. And I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: be nice and quick here. It's been polarized, it's been charged,

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Speaker 4: it's been out land to shares. American elections often are,

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Speaker 4: particularly over the last eight years. What I will say

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Speaker 4: is I feel believe whatever way it goes, it will

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Speaker 4: be all right. The world will keep turning, will be okay.

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Speaker 4: So don't worry too much about.

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Speaker 3: It, well said Tyler. And now, just to finish the

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Speaker 3: show on a bag up, I've put together the official

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Speaker 3: five election songs for twenty twenty four. Here we go,

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Speaker 3: add number five, Hasiting in There nineteen eighty four, Born

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Speaker 3: in the USA at number four, American Girl Tom Pety

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six, Ken Wild Kids.

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Speaker 4: Of America at number two, Living in America, James Brown,

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Speaker 4: and the number one from nineteen seventy one, Bomin Whiskey

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Speaker 4: and right.

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