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Speaker 1: But England morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: So you've caught up in the news this morning that

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Speaker 1: heinz Watis are proposing to close down their frozen veggie

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Speaker 1: production among a few other things across the country, which

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Speaker 1: would include that twenty four hour processing store. It's a

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Speaker 1: massive one on on Chan's Road. But we're also thinking

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Speaker 1: of the farmer grows. Apparently there's around two hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty of them across Canterbury, so no doubt a few

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Speaker 1: here in mid Canterbury as well. That's that's a tough blow.

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Speaker 2: It's a really tough blow both for the you know,

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Speaker 2: the workers and those both factories and also you know

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Speaker 2: the optionality for farmers to you know, competition for space

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Speaker 2: to grow crops. Yeah, it's not it's not good news.

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Speaker 1: So how does it work? I mean, do you grow veggies?

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Speaker 2: No, Matham was a little bit chilly for the windows,

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Speaker 2: a little bit short. Yeah, and I think that the

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Speaker 2: the big thing that they wrote, you know, they you know,

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Speaker 2: they need paddocks rotated through so every everyone has a

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Speaker 2: rotation of crops so within the arable systems and having

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Speaker 2: a vegetable crop would be just it's just one of

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Speaker 2: those choices and you definitely need irrigation to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you get a reliable, reliable crops out of it.

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Speaker 2: So it's just another loss of choice to an arable

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Speaker 2: grow to have a different income stream on their on

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Speaker 2: their properties.

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Speaker 1: Oh so is that what it's about when you talk

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Speaker 1: about rotation of crops? Is it just financial decisions that

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Speaker 1: you go, Okay, I'm putting carrots and carrots coming out

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Speaker 1: and putting carrots in again.

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Speaker 2: No, well, you can't just go bang bang bang in

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Speaker 2: the same field, but you can go around your property

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Speaker 2: and it's more like you want to go through a

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Speaker 2: vegetable crop and then a seal and then and then

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Speaker 2: maybe into into pasture or grass seed crop, clover crops,

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Speaker 2: just just so you don't exhaust the soil of or

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Speaker 2: build up disease that each any one of those crops

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Speaker 2: is are prone to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, gotcha, gotcha cheef. Because we've already spoken about

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Speaker 1: how tough it's been for our growers in terms of

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Speaker 1: those those grain crops. We've had a reasonable run in

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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks for the most part is harvesting.

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Speaker 2: I think, so just talking to one or two most

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Speaker 2: most of those your commodity crops and now they're into

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Speaker 2: the smaller seed crops that a little bit later on

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Speaker 2: and they're still taking one. So I've still got a

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Speaker 2: fear of it to get through. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: they're mostly they're mostly getting there. And yeah, we had

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Speaker 2: a great run of weather and I have of them

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Speaker 2: at time and Blenham right now. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the weather's like in mount summers, but.

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous as always it should be. Well, i'll tell you

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Speaker 1: the sign for me that we must have that harvest

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Speaker 1: in is the smell of burning in the year, and

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Speaker 1: I certainly noticed it on the weekends that there must

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Speaker 1: have been a few burnoffs. And that's what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you about this morning. First, why do farmers do it?

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Speaker 1: Once you sort of harvest your grain and get it

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Speaker 1: all in, what do you set the peddic alight?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a good way to just nuke any sort

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Speaker 2: of bugs and that side of things and pat it

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Speaker 2: without using chemical and to remove that bulk of organic

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Speaker 2: matter that's sitting on top, especially in a wet season

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Speaker 2: where you can't get the straw off and you can't

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Speaker 2: bail the straw, you know, as a way to get

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Speaker 2: rid of that straw as well. And yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: just one of those tools with the toolbox that reduces

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Speaker 2: you know, reduces diesel chemicals that side of things. So

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Speaker 2: that's that's a good thing in that sense. Yes, we

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Speaker 2: get some smoke and that side of things, and people

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Speaker 2: have got to follow smoke plans and you know if

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Speaker 2: they're in areas where I've going to get resource, you know,

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Speaker 2: consent of burn close to towns and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So it's very well controlled. But is just it's like

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Speaker 2: having that voice of the rotation. It's just one of

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Speaker 2: those tools that we desperately need to maintain.

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Speaker 1: So what would you like the town needs to know?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm pretty sure every year we have the same

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Speaker 1: discussion and you certain to certainly see it on the

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Speaker 1: community notice boards as well of people moaning about I've

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Speaker 1: got my washing out and now the smoke's wafting across

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Speaker 1: you know parts of town.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't want to have you. They want to

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Speaker 2: have low chemical residuals in their in their vegetables and

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Speaker 2: in their in their food system. And that it's a

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Speaker 2: it's an it's a tool that is available for farmers

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Speaker 2: to use. It helps reduce that it's a you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like taking away you can't you don't want to

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Speaker 2: take take away your choice of implements to maintain your

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Speaker 2: farm system or your your food system. And food securities

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Speaker 2: a pretty critical thing nowadays when you look around the world,

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Speaker 2: having effective ways to grow food and secure the food

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Speaker 2: supplies critically important.

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Speaker 1: Usually when we see smoke, we think, oh, maybe I

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Speaker 1: should call somebody because obviously something's on fire. Not so

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Speaker 1: much at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if you do see smoking you are

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Speaker 2: worried about it, then you know you should you should call.

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Speaker 2: But because my the thing that you're supposed to really

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Speaker 2: you can. Farmers can register that they're going to have

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Speaker 2: a have a burn off within the and within the

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Speaker 2: FAR system. You check it's all right to light on

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Speaker 2: the within the FEN system and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So there should be a you know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: cases would be a note in the within the emergency

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Speaker 2: measurement systems that you know that there is a FAR

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Speaker 2: and that's a controlled burn in that space. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you if you're really really concerned, because I had,

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Speaker 2: you know that it could be a it could be

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Speaker 2: a shot about that's up and cranking along, especially it's

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Speaker 2: high in North East ones. But I don't think we've

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Speaker 2: had too many, too many issues this year. Where as

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Speaker 2: far as we've got out of control, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not like they're quite like the old days where we

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Speaker 2: used to have. I think a few more out of

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Speaker 2: control situations, but yeah,