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Speaker 1: We've got a new reportant to the geopolitical forces shape

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Speaker 1: in global architecture agriculture rather rabobankers warning us next to

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Speaker 1: you could mark a new era where traditional market forces

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Speaker 1: no longer fully dictate prices or production. So, Sarah, the

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Speaker 1: shot of courses as you it's trying to stand off

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Speaker 1: at the moment, and there are among beans or soy

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Speaker 1: beans or whatever they're arguing over. Doctor Jekyl and rowath

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Speaker 1: Isnate Junct Professor and Egroscience, Lincoln University, Jaquelin, good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning. Now is this.

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Speaker 1: Any different from what we deal with at the moment?

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Speaker 1: I mean, geopolitics is a major for I mean we

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Speaker 1: saw it with beef over the weekend from Donald Trump, didn't.

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Speaker 2: We Well, that's all part of it. And I think

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Speaker 2: that we've been through a period of actual relative calm

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Speaker 2: in terms of geopolitics. But we're going back to the

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Speaker 2: olden days sort of pre the nineteen forty five era.

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Speaker 2: We've got huge swings about powers, and our major strength

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Speaker 2: is that we are trusted. We're still forced on the

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Speaker 2: Transparency International Index. People trust us to do what we

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Speaker 2: say will do, so they will continue to negotiate with us,

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Speaker 2: and of course we produce great product.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do, and people want beef, and so we

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Speaker 1: sell more beef to the American What about the soybean

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Speaker 1: situation in Minnesota. I mean, if you're a soybean farmer

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and Trump's running the place and they're not

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Speaker 1: getting it, what do you do? How do you plant?

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Speaker 1: How do you plan?

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Speaker 2: It's very difficult for them, and that does affect the

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Speaker 2: feed prices for the animals that they have in barns

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Speaker 2: over in the USA. It also affects a course they're

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Speaker 2: trade with China. So we watch those interactions with extreme

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Speaker 2: interest while thinking what it might mean for New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and dairy products. Will it be more desirable if things

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Speaker 2: over there are more expensive or will it be less

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Speaker 2: so because Trump will probably start subsidizing things for the farmers. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: they've got problems. This is over in America. But what

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Speaker 2: can we say? Trump changes his mind all the time,

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Speaker 2: as we saw over the weekend, and that is just

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Speaker 2: when they.

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Speaker 1: Elected him, well exactly, and you can't plan for that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. And we've seen grain with Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: the war, so you never know when a war is

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Speaker 1: what we're suggesting, is the more unstable the planet is,

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Speaker 1: the more uncertain doing businesses.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And there are other implications with all this uncertainty,

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Speaker 2: things like fertilizers, agrochemicals. Have been some concerned about that

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and that makes our products more difficult

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Speaker 2: to produce. So this whole uncertainty, that's why people are

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Speaker 2: saying we should diversify. But we must remember that we're

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Speaker 2: the best producers, least impact producers of highest quality animal

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Speaker 2: protein and people need animal protein for their health. So

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Speaker 2: we're in a good position because of that. And we're small, Mike,

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Speaker 2: We're just small.

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Speaker 1: And we're agile because of it. Jackevil and always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to heavy on the program. Jaqueline Row with Edgent,

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Speaker 1: professor or negroscience at Lincoln University. I think overall will

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Speaker 1: be okay and that for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast,

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