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Speaker 2: That'd be good afternoon seven after four twenty first of

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Speaker 2: and three Building consent decisions are delayed? Whose fault is that?

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Speaker 2: Good result for them for today and does that mean

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Speaker 2: Ol Brown will tell us why he's not serving bluss

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Speaker 2: Asia Bryan Bridge. If you don't like sport, then you're

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Speaker 2: not going to like this weekend. It's everywhere, all at once,

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Speaker 2: We'll be drowning in updates from penalty shootouts. We'll have

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Speaker 2: In fact, there is no time limit. These things can

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Speaker 2: News Talks eb It is nineteen minutes after four. Chris says, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I would rather punch myself in the groin than watch cricket. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is an absolute load of crap.

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Speaker 6: Because it tes to ease into it. Am I talking

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Speaker 2: On and it's not as significant to qualify as that

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Speaker 8: Was that for you?

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Speaker 2: That was fun?

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Let's see you later on Darcy.

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Speaker 7: Several screens, several screens and iPad time to cook any food?

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Speaker 2: V Ol Brown, owner of Depot E three, well known

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Speaker 2: The United States fell to its lowest happiness ranking, partly

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Speaker 11: Just an incidental expenses for anything they want to want

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Speaker 11: or at least a pat on the back for having

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Speaker 11: to spend an extra eight months in three weeks longer

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Speaker 11: than they were supposed to up.

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Speaker 2: There, I suppose, so, yeah, Dan, thank you very much

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Speaker 2: for that damnage. And now US correspondent has gone twenty

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Speaker 2: away from five.

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Speaker 1: Newspork International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Just gone twenty away from five on news talks. There'd

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Speaker 2: be Barry Soaper we'll be here next. Councils are trying

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Speaker 2: to get these building consents hurried up. Barry's been looking

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Speaker 2: into that, so we'll talk to him also, Chris penc

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Speaker 2: after five o'clock. Interesting story out of Nelson today. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it yet, but there's

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Speaker 2: a thing called horsey hair that boys have been wearing

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Speaker 2: to schools. We used to have a rats tail when

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Speaker 2: I was at school. It's sort of like a rats tail.

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Speaker 2: It's shaved on the sides, and then there is essentially

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Speaker 2: a ponytail dangling down the back of a boy's head,

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Speaker 2: but it's not tied up, and it can be dyed.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's dyed blonde, sometimes it's dyed dark, depending on

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Speaker 2: what the hair color is. Now and Nelson College parent

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Speaker 2: has been upset and complained as parents do these days,

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Speaker 2: to the college because they were told their son was told,

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Speaker 2: you get ak here, mate, it looks stupid. And Nelson

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Speaker 2: College has said, we're looking at tidying up uniforms, facial

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Speaker 2: hair and hairstyles. We're bringing back making boys look sharp,

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Speaker 2: so from the Nelson College principle. So I just wonder

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Speaker 2: what people do with that, because there's feel about how

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Speaker 2: people feel about that, because there's a scale. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's your King's College sort of preppy. You know, socks

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Speaker 2: are olled up and everything's nothing's out of place. And

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Speaker 2: then there's your like Western Springs College where it's three

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Speaker 2: range farmed children. You know where we're at with that,

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Speaker 2: because from where I'm sitting, school should be about education.

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Speaker 2: So in that sense, does it matter what your hair

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Speaker 2: looks like? Is that really important? But then you don't

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Speaker 2: want everyone looking messy. I think the rule should be

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Speaker 2: if you get at least a MERIT for this year

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Speaker 2: in your school year educationally, if you get at least

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Speaker 2: to MERIT level, you can wear whatever you like the

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Speaker 2: following year, because there's an incentive. N nine two is

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Speaker 2: the number to text eighteen away from five on Newstalks

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Speaker 2: thereb barrispers next.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payment certainty.

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Speaker 2: Your news talksb has just gone quarter to five. The

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal is reporting that Elon Musk is to

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Speaker 2: receive a top secret briefing on US war plans for China.

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Speaker 2: This is not a joke. This is a Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal report, quoting two unnamed US officials. I'll get to

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Speaker 2: that a little later on. But Barry Soaper is here now,

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Speaker 2: high Barry, that's President Musk exactly South.

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Speaker 6: African, which you know, which is incredible when you think about.

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Speaker 2: It, Well, what's wrong with South Akri? No?

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Speaker 6: No, nothing, No, But he's he's an immigrant. No, yes,

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Speaker 6: but he's an immigrant when you look at Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and his view on immigrants.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's quite right, making all decisions for them.

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Speaker 2: And he's got one at home as well, doesn't he.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know whether she's at home all the time.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Hey, counsels that get a hurry up over

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Speaker 2: delays in building consents Barry.

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Speaker 6: And this is not the full time I mean. It

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Speaker 6: was Chris Penk the construction Minister. He said to councils

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Speaker 6: building authority consents, they have to start keeping a quarterly

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Speaker 6: record of them so that there is some transparency and

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Speaker 6: they know what's happening in the system. Well, clearly they've

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Speaker 6: got that back. He said. Time is money for tradees

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Speaker 6: and there's no doubt about that. He said that officials

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Speaker 6: estimate a twelve working day delay because of a request

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Speaker 6: for further information can cost around four thousand dollars a dwelling. Now,

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Speaker 6: last year, ninety four and a half thousand applications triggered

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Speaker 6: a more information extended the life of a consent. Now,

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Speaker 6: I've personally had many issues with counsels over the years,

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Speaker 6: to the point that you know, they said, we need

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Speaker 6: an architects drawing for that, So you get an architect

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Speaker 6: and then they want something else, and then they tell

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Speaker 6: you you're getting a consent now, and then the person

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Speaker 6: that's giving the consent somebody dies in the family, so

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Speaker 6: you're told, I'm sorry, the person's on leave. Now you

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Speaker 6: left waiting further happen.

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Speaker 2: How dare somebody die on your wife?

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Speaker 6: Well, wouldn't you think they would hand it on to

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Speaker 6: somebody else's consent was ready to be signed off? Now

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Speaker 6: you know, it's a disgrace. So what Chris Pink says

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Speaker 6: that in the next few months he'll finalize decisions on

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Speaker 6: speeding up these consents. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 6: builders would be happy with that. Not only builders though,

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Speaker 6: even though they're sitting on their hands waiting. You've got

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Speaker 6: people that are waiting to get the job done and

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Speaker 6: it's costing them daily. As some council boffin sits on

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Speaker 6: his hands in his office and has a cigarette and

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Speaker 6: a cover of coffee, and you know, it forgets about

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Speaker 6: giving the consent. But it seems like it.

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Speaker 2: Seems like that. I'm interested to know from the Minister

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Speaker 2: exactly who is to blame here, Whether there are applications

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Speaker 2: that are going and that are not being filled in properly,

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Speaker 2: you know, or whether it's at the council side.

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Speaker 6: So one of the things he's going to do, and

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Speaker 6: I think it's a good approach. He's looking at mainly

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Speaker 6: getting builders themselves, builders with reputation to do their own consents.

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Speaker 6: Now that's a worry with leaky buildings, that comes to mind.

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Speaker 6: But if you've got a reputable firm doing the job,

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Speaker 6: you say, well, why do they have to go to

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Speaker 6: a boffin and a council to get signed off?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree with that part more. Someone just

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Speaker 2: drove past the waikat a district council. It's a Friday.

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Speaker 2: They were all looking from home today. That should be

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Speaker 2: made to go in there and get my consents done.

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Speaker 2: Another bad survey this is the IPSOS survey thumbs down

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Speaker 2: for the government.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the worst rating the government's had since

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Speaker 6: they've started keeping these surveys in twenty seventeen, ironically, which

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Speaker 6: was of course when Jasin dar Dern took over the

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Speaker 6: reins of government here in New Zealand. Forty one percent

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Speaker 6: of respondents to the IPSOS survey rated the government's performance

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Speaker 6: between zero and three out of ten. Now, when you

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Speaker 6: look at the years of the durn Hipkin's government. Of

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Speaker 6: course they spent like drunken sailors. So essentially we didn't

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Speaker 6: feel the impacts that we could otherwise have felt. So

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Speaker 6: you know, I mean this government has a mess, has

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Speaker 6: had a mess to clean up, so you know, we

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Speaker 6: can't take too much or put a place too much

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Speaker 6: faith in that. But they looked at the issues and

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Speaker 6: the top five issues no surprise, healthcare, hospitals, the economy,

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Speaker 6: housing in crime and law and order. Well, you know,

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Speaker 6: I think that's a foregone conclusion. The point that David

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Speaker 6: Seymour made the other day when he was the acting

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Speaker 6: Prime Minister is that he said people essentially vote on

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Speaker 6: the economy as much as they do voting for a government.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's right. And he said once things

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Speaker 6: start getting better, and of course we've talked about this

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Speaker 6: week the GDP, once they start getting better, I think

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Speaker 6: people get better.

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Speaker 2: There's a lag though, between the numbers and feeling. Now

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the story. We haven't got

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Speaker 2: much time, but Wellington Councils spending on Portalaod's is causing

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Speaker 2: a stink with the Taxpayers Union.

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Speaker 6: It is, and initially I thought, well, for goodness sake,

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Speaker 6: you had tens of thousands of people. I was there

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Speaker 6: myself in Wellington during the TREATYHKUOI that they had on

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Speaker 6: Parliament Ow is this Yeah, they spent twenty one or

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Speaker 6: almost twenty two thousand on porter loos around the city.

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Speaker 6: Now the point that the taxpayer made, And initially I thought, well,

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Speaker 6: it's ridiculous and the taxpayer shouldn't be taxpo's union shouldn't

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Speaker 6: be complaining about this, because you can imagine what the

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Speaker 6: streets of Wellington might look like without the porter loose.

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Speaker 6: But what they say is that generally the organizers of

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Speaker 6: these events they supply their own portal loos, and they've

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Speaker 6: probably got a point on that when you consider that

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Speaker 6: the rates in Wellington this year have gone up eighteen

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Speaker 6: and a half percent. So if you're a rate player

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Speaker 6: there paying for porter lows for people turning up protesting

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Speaker 6: the treaty changes that were never going to take place,

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Speaker 6: you'd really have to ask a question, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: You would be yeah, I mean literally flushing money down

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Speaker 2: the toilet, aren't they? And I actually thought when you

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Speaker 2: started talking about the story, I thought, maybe people are

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Speaker 2: so scared the pipes are so broken, you're too scared

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Speaker 2: to do you buses in your own they're having used portaloods,

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Speaker 2: but exactly goodness make Barry thank you for that. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you later on Barry Soper seeing their political correspondent

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Speaker 2: here on news Talks. There have been nine away from five,

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Speaker 2: lots of your texts coming in on both the schooled

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Speaker 2: uniforms and the consents. We'll speak to the minister about

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Speaker 2: it after five to get your feedback.

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Speaker 1: Next, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

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Speaker 7: Breakfast, we're out of recession Q four zero point seven?

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Speaker 2: Are we on our way?

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Speaker 12: The Finance Minister Nikola will as Wells, does the zero

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Speaker 12: point seven.

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Speaker 10: On GDP give you hope that the tale of the.

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Speaker 2: Jobs which legs of course might end a little bit

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Speaker 2: or peak a little bit sooner than we thought or

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Speaker 2: it is what it is.

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Speaker 13: Well, we have seen the forecasts for unemployment coming off

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Speaker 13: a little bit since we came to government. As you've seen,

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Speaker 13: employment is the last thing to recover when an economy

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Speaker 13: goes through a Timelin New Zealand hairs.

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Speaker 5: The forecasts are.

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Speaker 13: That will peak halfway through the year and then it's

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Speaker 13: going to keep better in the second half.

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Speaker 5: Of the year.

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Speaker 13: That's consistent with what I'm seeing in the economy.

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Speaker 2: Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: the Rain drove of the last news talk ZB Five

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Speaker 2: away from five. It's all happening at Heathrow Airport in

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Speaker 2: London today. In fact, nothing's happening because all flights have

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Speaker 2: been canceled. The airport is closed for the day because

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Speaker 2: of a fired and electrical substation in West London. It's

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Speaker 2: left some sixteen hundred homes without power in the surrounding area.

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Speaker 2: It's more force more than one hundred people to evacuate.

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Speaker 2: But most importantly for most of Europe, there are fourteen

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Speaker 2: hundred flights in and out of Heathrow every day, one

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Speaker 2: every forty five seconds. Two hundred and thirty thousand people

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Speaker 2: who travel through there to Membre supposed to be traveling

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Speaker 2: through there today will have their travel disrupted. You they've

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Speaker 2: closed the biggest airport in the UK for the day

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Speaker 2: because of an electrical fire. I mean, you've got to

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Speaker 2: do it a safety safety, I suppose, but man, that's

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Speaker 2: a huge disruption. Four away from five in brich lots

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Speaker 2: of texts on school uniforms and standard. It's Ryan. I'm

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Speaker 2: a teacher, says Sam. At a public school on the

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Speaker 2: North Shore that requires students to wear a uniform, they

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Speaker 2: have recently relaxed the uniform standard so that girls don't

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Speaker 2: have to tie their hair up anymore and they can

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Speaker 2: have more than one piercing. Boys facial hair must now

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Speaker 2: be quote tidy rather than clean shaven. Since the implementation,

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Speaker 2: there has been a noticeable change in students pushing the

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Speaker 2: boundaries across the school. Not just uniform, not to be

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Speaker 2: old school. But you give an inch and they will

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Speaker 2: take a mile. Here you go, what's next They'll be

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Speaker 2: showing you all their tattoos or something. You know, I

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Speaker 2: do take your point. A lot of builders texting in

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Speaker 2: about the building consents. You know, are we unfairly blaming

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Speaker 2: counsels because they're the easy punching bag. Well we'll ask

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Speaker 2: the minister Chris pink live.

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Speaker 14: Nexties we can.

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Speaker 15: I don't want an a, don't away god noise, not

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Speaker 15: just celebrate un just away.

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Speaker 1: Questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy Ellen Drive

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand Let's get connected News talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good evening at a seven after five. Great

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Speaker 2: to have your company on a Friday night. The Construction

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Speaker 2: Minister says the consenting process is taking way too long.

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Speaker 2: Consenting applications are meant to be processed within twenty working days,

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Speaker 2: and anyone who's built a house or had any kind

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Speaker 2: of construction work done knows that that is a pipe dream.

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Speaker 2: Numbers out today show it's taking longer than that sixty

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Speaker 2: six percent of the time. In other words, two thirds

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Speaker 2: of applications are taking too long. Chris Pink's the minister.

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Speaker 2: He's with me now, High Minister.

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Speaker 12: Fascinating.

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Speaker 2: So two thirds of applications taking longer than they should

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Speaker 2: and they're doing this by using a request for information.

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Speaker 2: What exactly is that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's when the council says to the builder or

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Speaker 8: the trades person, look, we think there's something wrong.

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Speaker 12: What does this mean?

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Speaker 8: You've forgotten that or you need to add that in

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Speaker 8: or whatever the case may be. And you know, in

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Speaker 8: some cases it will evitably be the case that there

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Speaker 8: might be a problem. But two thirds of the time,

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Speaker 8: you know, ninety thousand of leagues across a year, that

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Speaker 8: surely can't be right. So certainly, and it goes to

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Speaker 8: lead in terms of builders and tradees and designers. They say, look,

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Speaker 8: it's councils being really risk averse, and there's good reasons

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Speaker 8: for that, but you know, we need to sort this out.

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Speaker 8: It's just costing way too much.

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Speaker 2: Because what happens is once they do that request for information,

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Speaker 2: the clock stops again, right, so it starts again, so

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Speaker 2: they can take longer.

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Speaker 8: Try And there's certainly a lot of cynicism out there

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Speaker 8: when people say that they've got a content application and

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Speaker 8: it's the nineteenth or the twentieth day, and lo and

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Speaker 8: behold they get the RFA, this quest of further information,

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Speaker 8: and they feel as though councils playing for time.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: The councils, on the other hand, would say that they're

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Speaker 8: busy and they're just trying to get to what they

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Speaker 8: can get to. But we should all be very fearful,

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Speaker 8: you know, if this is what we've got going on,

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Speaker 8: when the system is pretty light in terms of workloads,

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Speaker 8: in terms of activity, and we want there to be

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Speaker 8: more building activity. We know they've been a low having

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Speaker 8: goodness knows, the timings are really going to blow out

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Speaker 8: when when ad activity and pressing to see.

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Speaker 2: So how do you fix it without potentially compromising and

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Speaker 2: safety or another leaky building.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of very good question and it's a

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Speaker 8: balance we're going to try and get right. And part

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Speaker 8: of the antswer is that key to be a bit

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Speaker 8: more hands off.

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Speaker 12: Where there are experienced builders.

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Speaker 8: We've got a good track record, they've got insurance, they're solvent,

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Speaker 8: they're not going to cause industry for the vulnerable homeowner

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Speaker 8: or other building owner in walk Away and leaves him

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Speaker 8: in the lurch. And that means council aren't involved. Because

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Speaker 8: we allow these guys to do the work without actually

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Speaker 8: needing that content in the first place, the council can

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Speaker 8: actually spend more of their resources in their time and

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Speaker 8: actually respond more quickly, whether building types or less experienced

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Speaker 8: builders and trades people who actually need that greater scrutiny.

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Speaker 8: So we think it's going to be more of about life.

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Speaker 2: When are we going to see this enacted?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I.

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Speaker 8: Mean certainly the first half of this year, so the

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Speaker 8: final decisions.

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Speaker 2: So there'll be builders and there'll be people who are

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Speaker 2: having work done on their homes. Minister, he'll be very

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Speaker 2: happy to hear that, very happy indeed, I know, but

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Speaker 2: Barry Sober will be one of them, having just had

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Speaker 2: him in the studio winging about the problem he's had lately.

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Speaker 2: Chris Pink is the building construction minister. Thanks for being

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Speaker 2: on the show. Just gone ten after five, Ryan Bridge,

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Speaker 2: are we seeing a bit of a turnaround for the warehouse?

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Speaker 2: They've reported eleven point eight million and a half year

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Speaker 2: net profit. This is after tax, but sales did decline.

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Speaker 2: They're still expecting to make a loss over the entire year.

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Speaker 2: John Janay is the interim CEO. He's with me now,

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Speaker 2: good evening, all right, So what do you make of this?

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Speaker 2: Because you've got warehouse revenue down two percent, stationary down seven,

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Speaker 2: no lemming up one. What's it telling you?

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Speaker 9: Definitely it's a work in progress, Ryan, would be the summary,

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Speaker 9: but we're very encouraged with the momentum we're seeing across

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Speaker 9: the business now.

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Speaker 2: And from what base did you come give us an

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Speaker 2: idea of how bad things were?

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Speaker 9: Well, we were basically, as you might recall, we were

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Speaker 9: in a strategy that wasn't working with our customers last year.

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Speaker 9: We've done some work to change that re point, refocus

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Speaker 9: our business on our retail brands, which absolutely critical in

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Speaker 9: particular the warehouse and actually get us back on what

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Speaker 9: our customers want. Focused on that, and that's what our

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Speaker 9: teams have been doing, and that's starting to show fruit,

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Speaker 9: and that's turning up and product that has better ings,

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Speaker 9: much lower pricing, and much more exciting and engaging. Our

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Speaker 9: customers are loving the new products that were coming into

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Speaker 9: store and they're responding really well.

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Speaker 2: First Union says that your strategy is basically understaffing and

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Speaker 2: not replacing people when they're sick.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, bit confusers to lot lines. He was drawing, there

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Speaker 9: are the same as we're making predominantly coming from reduction

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Speaker 9: and it costs and our project costs, and basically our

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Speaker 9: green shirts are coming from our product successes and the

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Speaker 9: engagement with their customers. So a little bit confused with

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Speaker 9: where he's coming from. There ten over ten thousand team

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Speaker 9: members up and down the country. They're a critical part

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Speaker 9: of our operation and a success.

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Speaker 2: So there's been no I mean, this is Rud Hughes,

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Speaker 2: the First Workers Union representative. He says they've received seventy

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Speaker 2: five understaffing complaints and six staff not being replaced. He said,

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Speaker 2: this is your strategy is cutting costs to make profit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're saying he's wrong.

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Speaker 9: Sure, sick staff out of ten thousand as a particular

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Speaker 9: and strong fact point to be leaning in terms oft Again,

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Speaker 9: we send different things, and you know, we know what

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Speaker 9: we're focused on and what our teams are supporting with us,

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Speaker 9: and we're very appreciative of what they're doing. They are

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Speaker 9: working hard. I think everybody today is working hard, and

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Speaker 9: we appreciate them for that, and they're passionate about serving

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Speaker 9: our customers and that's what we love them for.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Good on John, thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. That's John June. He's the interim chief

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Speaker 2: executive at the Warehouse. It's the ten minutes after five,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge, So elon Musk. We will have another update

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Speaker 2: on Heathrow for you as well. But basically the long

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Speaker 2: and the short of it is, no one's going anywhere

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Speaker 2: at Heathrow Airport today. There's been a fire nearby at

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Speaker 2: a sub electrical substation. There's been homes evacuated. There are

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Speaker 2: about seventy firefighters on the scene and no planes are

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Speaker 2: flying through Heathrow today. That's two hundred and thirty thousand

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Speaker 2: average passengers affected. Elon Musk over in the United States.

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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journalist reporting just in the last hour

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Speaker 2: that Elon Musk is going to get a top secret

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Speaker 2: briefing from the Pentagon on America's plans for war with China.

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Speaker 2: This is according to two US officials unnamed at this stage,

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Speaker 2: so you know, don't take it for gospel. He says

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Speaker 2: that the report says operational blueprints will be shown, maritime

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Speaker 2: tactics and targeting plans. Many are obviously upset or confused

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Speaker 2: because mask, yes, he is part of the government to

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Speaker 2: an extent, but he also owns Tesla and SpaceX and

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Speaker 2: is there a conflict of interest? And what on earth

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Speaker 2: do we want him knowing our plans for attacking China

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Speaker 2: or anyway, News Talks airb it has just gone on

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Speaker 2: fourteen minutes after five, coming up next to Al Brown

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Speaker 2: while he's not serving bluff oysters this year, News Talks

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Speaker 2: airb it is seventeen minutes after five. Apparently Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: has already issued a statement about this Wall Street journal story,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get that to you in a second as well.

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Speaker 2: Right now, though, a very important topic in Auckland, a

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Speaker 2: high profile Auckland restaurant has made a shock announcement by

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Speaker 2: taking bluff oysters off the menu Depot Eatery, which is well,

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Speaker 2: very high profile you'll know it owned by celebrity chef

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Speaker 2: Al Brown. He's citing the poor state and decline of

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Speaker 2: the seafood as the reason. And he's with me now,

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Speaker 2: hi ol, good evening.

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Speaker 12: This is bigger than the musk story.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, but we'll give it

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Speaker 2: a go. We'll give it a go. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 2: is this a big to just put it in context?

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Speaker 2: Is this a big decision? Is this a big deal?

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Speaker 2: Or is it a sort of a fine to have

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Speaker 2: no bluff oysters on your menu?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Look, we have lots of oysters and so, and the

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Speaker 12: bluff oyster is of course it's the caulinary treasure of

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Speaker 12: the country and I adore them. But we support our

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Speaker 12: suppliers and know Taho they have been our oyster supplier

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Speaker 12: for years and we get our voices live said to

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Speaker 12: us in the shells and so over the last few years,

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Speaker 12: when I'm shocking them, I've noticed as well that you

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Speaker 12: know the quality of them has dropped quite you know,

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Speaker 12: in quite a big way. And but when we get

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Speaker 12: the oysters, we've paid for them, so but we have

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Speaker 12: to open them to order because they're live. That's we

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Speaker 12: only serve live seafood or live shell fish. And so

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Speaker 12: you know, typically with a dozen, you might get you know,

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Speaker 12: four goodies and you know, maybe four pretty average and

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Speaker 12: then four runts. And if you're paying eight dollars an

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Speaker 12: oyster or seven fifty bucks an oyster and I serve

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Speaker 12: those to you, you're not going to be very happy

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Speaker 12: with that. But if I throw them in the bin,

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to be making any money either. So

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Speaker 12: if you know, I tell who you know, and they're

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Speaker 12: they're the katiachy or guardianship is a big part of

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Speaker 12: their the way that the lens that they look at

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Speaker 12: the more honor and they surpassed with oysters. So you know,

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Speaker 12: I back them up. And because I've seen its firsthand

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Speaker 12: as well, so I don't know whether it's yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is so for every four eacing, we're basically

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Speaker 2: asy getting the bin getting berthed.

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Speaker 12: Well, certainly it's very hard for me to serve voices

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Speaker 12: that and I don't know until I open them, until

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Speaker 12: I shuck them what's inside. Of course, whereas lots of

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Speaker 12: restaurants will buy podles of voices which have been graded

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Speaker 12: and that they've been shucked in bluff and they're in

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Speaker 12: a plastic poddle and they've been shipped up here and

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Speaker 12: they'll be buying a grade oysters, so they'll.

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Speaker 4: All be good.

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Speaker 12: So and that's a good thing too, So why don't

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Speaker 12: you do that secondary oysters? And even Notatahu said, you know,

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Speaker 12: you know the last two seasons they've stopped halfway through

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Speaker 12: the season or later in the season to say shit,

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Speaker 12: they're just not in good shape.

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Speaker 4: And look, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: Look, you know, I don't think it's probably overfishing. That

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Speaker 12: there's lots of things that come into the banemea that

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Speaker 12: you know, the parasite that they say is still there. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: you know, it's the climate, is the nutrition in the

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Speaker 12: water for the for them to to to actually get big.

867
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Speaker 12: But you know, we just support support our supply.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it will hit your business, because as

869
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Speaker 2: you said, lots of other people are the businesses will

870
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Speaker 2: keep supplying.

871
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Speaker 12: Oh no, I don't think so. You know, we've we're

872
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Speaker 12: an oyster bar and we support the aquaculture New Zealand

873
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Speaker 12: as well. And there's a lot of hard working farmers

874
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Speaker 12: out there, you know, growing amazing oysters all over the country,

875
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Speaker 12: and that's what we highlight and and and yep, some

876
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 12: people will be disappointed. Yeah, I love a bluff oyster

877
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Speaker 12: as much as the next person. But I think it's

878
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Speaker 12: an opportunity when you when you have a restaurant to

879
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 12: you know, you're a window on what's happening out there.

880
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Speaker 12: And and just bringing it to the forefront that you

881
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Speaker 12: know that the oysters aren't in great shape is something

882
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 12: that's important. And and you know, I see I heard

883
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 12: the other day. It seems hard to believe, but evidently

884
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 12: the bluff oiced industry is the only wild oyster industry

885
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Speaker 12: in the world. Everything else is FARBD. So it's a

886
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Speaker 12: very very special thing that we have.

887
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Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for your time. Look forward to

888
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Speaker 2: coming back for a meal sometime. Al Brown, celebrity chef

889
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Speaker 2: owner of Depot Eatery in Auckland, are no longer serving

890
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: bluff oysters. Twenty one minutes after five News Talks.

891
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: dB informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on

892
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: Hither Dupericy Ellen drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

893
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: News Talks NB twenty four minutes after five news talks

894
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: heb on your Friday nights. If you ever needed confirmation

895
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: that the private sector is better than the public sector,

896
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Speaker 2: that private enterprise is better than the government getting stuff done,

897
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Speaker 2: I've got one for you this afternoon. How long has

898
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: it taken us? And I know they're not exactly the

899
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: same situation, Okay, so let's you know, spare me the

900
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Speaker 2: hassle afterwards. But how long has it taken us to

901
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: get a fury, a new fury to go across the

902
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: Cook Strait. We've had two governments now three or four

903
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Speaker 2: in fact, possibly even five ministers death that this has

904
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: been across millions sunk in unrecoverable costs. And then today

905
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: Blue Bridge comes out of the blue Bam. We've bought

906
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 2: a ship, so wow, amazing. They announced it today. It'll

907
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: be sailing in July. Ten percent bigger, more capacity for

908
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: their vehicles. Passenger capacity is going to go up significantly.

909
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: Its name is Steina Levia. She's used to flitting between

910
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: Germany and Latvia apparently, and she'll be coming our way

911
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: and taking us across the Cook Strait. They will change

912
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: the name. They will dry dock her in Europe. First

913
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Speaker 2: and then bring her here and across the Cook Strait

914
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: she goes, Bob's your uncle. What's the problem. Why is

915
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: it so hard for the government. I know they want

916
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: bigger ones, but in the end we're not getting bigger ones,

917
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: are we We're getting slightly bigger ones. So did we

918
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Speaker 2: need to order the really big ones in the first place?

919
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: Why can they do it so easily and it's so

920
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: difficult for the beehive. Twenty five minutes after five overseas

921
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Speaker 2: merchandise stats out for you today. What that means is

922
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Speaker 2: how much we export and how much we import. This

923
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Speaker 2: is for February. Remember we've already had some good, solid

924
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Speaker 2: tourism numbers. For February. We were at ninety three percent

925
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Speaker 2: of pre COVID, which is good when you consider the

926
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Speaker 2: averages about eighty seven for the year. So we've had

927
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Speaker 2: good tourism numbers, and now we are having this is

928
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Speaker 2: export goods. In other words, merchandise for February up sixteen

929
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Speaker 2: percent to six point seven billion. Now imports were also

930
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: up two point one percent to six point two billion.

931
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Speaker 2: That leaves a circus a surplus, I should say five

932
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Speaker 2: hundred million. The items that we are selling more of milk.

933
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Speaker 2: Powder is up, butter is up, cheese is up. Basically

934
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Speaker 2: all the stuff you love eating is up. We're selling

935
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Speaker 2: more of it. Meat and offul up twenty eight percent.

936
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Speaker 2: And fruit. We sold sixty million dollar is worth of

937
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: fruit in February and that was up as well. Your

938
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Speaker 2: news Talk said, be still a lot more to come.

939
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: The Chinese ambassador apparently not happy with Luxon. We'll talk

940
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: about that whether it's a bit of a beat up

941
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: and the onbardsman on his way out of the job.

942
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: He's with us after six.

943
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: On the iHeart app.

944
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: And in your car on your drive home, it's Ryan

945
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Bridge on Hither Duplessy Allen Drive with one New Zealand

946
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: let's get connected.

947
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 10: News Talk said, b if this world were mony.

948
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: From a no seven days, if this roll was a mine,

949
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: I'd take you James and made them. It is twenty

950
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Speaker 2: five minutes away from six. This's Friday evening. You're on

951
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: news Talk, so you might have remembered. You may remember

952
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: Western Australia WA was coming for our tradees. They've managed

953
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: to get a few of them. We've had some numbers

954
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: through from the campaign that they started running at the

955
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: beginning of the year January. First, it was offering five

956
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: four hundred New Zealand dollars for when you get your job,

957
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: when you get your contract, and then a further five

958
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: and a half thousand dollars six months in because they

959
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: want tradings over there, because they've got building construction work

960
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: that they want them to do right as we all do.

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Speaker 16: Now.

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Speaker 2: So that's about eleven just over eleven thousand dollars for

963
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Speaker 2: you to go there. Now, fourteen New Zealanders have taken

964
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Speaker 2: up this offer, have said yes, and they have a

965
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: further sixty seven applications being processed. But if you think

966
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: about it, what actually what do we have to offer

967
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: them here? You look at the building construction numbers and

968
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: the and the GDP darty yesterday. I mean, look at

969
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: the consent numbers going out. We know that the industry

970
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: here is struggling. So you know, did the eleven thousand

971
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: dollars get them across the line or was that just

972
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: a happy coincidence and they would have gone anyway. I

973
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Speaker 2: guess we'll never know, but that's probably by the all

974
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Speaker 2: said and done, close to one hundred kiwi's heading to

975
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Speaker 2: Western Australia trades that we will lose here, it's twenty

976
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Speaker 2: four minutes away from.

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Speaker 4: Six, Ryan Bridge.

978
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Speaker 2: The All Whites are just two games away from securing

979
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Speaker 2: a spot at the FIFA World Cup. This is twenty

980
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Speaker 2: twenty six. They take on Fiji tonight in the Capitol

981
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Speaker 2: as part of the second semi final. All things going well,

982
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: they'll head back to Auckland on Monday for the final

983
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Speaker 2: and a place at the world's biggest sporting event. Ricky

984
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Speaker 2: Herbert is the former All Whites coaches with me now, Hi, Ricky, Hi, Ryan,

985
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Thanks good, thank you. The All Whites were they're shoeing here,

986
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: aren't they.

987
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Speaker 16: Oh look, you'd like to think so, but you know,

988
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 16: let's pay respect. This is going to be a wonderful

989
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 16: opportunity for Fiji to showcase themselves as well, given the

990
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 16: direct entry. So I'm sure there'll be massive motivation coming

991
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 16: from the opposition camp as well. But one would like

992
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 16: to think we should be good enough to win tonight.

993
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be some fingers crossed, but I'm sure not

994
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: too hard. Is the qualifying a lot of talk this

995
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: week about the qualifying process for the World Cup. Is

996
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: it too easy? Now that they've removed that into a

997
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: continental playoff?

998
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 16: Well, look, I think it changes the landscape, doesn't it

999
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 16: quite quite simply who you have to play. I mean,

1000
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 16: ironically we've got two home games, semi final, the final

1001
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 16: on our own back door stair hopefully, so that bodes

1002
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 16: well for us. We're not traveling to different parts of

1003
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 16: the world to play in a way fixture et cetera,

1004
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 16: et cetera. So yeah, the end of the day, there Ryan,

1005
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 16: We've still got to step up tonight. We've got to

1006
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 16: get the job done. That's the main concentration. This is

1007
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 16: the one that can take us through to our final,

1008
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 16: to give us that shot to be back in twenty

1009
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 16: twenty six and appear and you know our field will

1010
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 16: cut which would be outstanding. So look, why can't our

1011
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 16: confederation have the right to be there? You know, And

1012
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 16: I think you know, talking about it the other day,

1013
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 16: it's it's getting through this and like I say, fingers crossed,

1014
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 16: we get through it. But then it's making a statement

1015
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 16: at the World Cup as well. And you know, can

1016
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 16: we add on from twenty ten and win some fixtures,

1017
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 16: will get out of the group and really make a

1018
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 16: statement again worldwide. So's the that's the big outcome for

1019
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 16: me is let's go and deliver at a World Cup

1020
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 16: in twenty twenty six and you know, make people stand

1021
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 16: up and go, yes, we certainly deserve to be there.

1022
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: Well that's how it happened, Ricky, thank you very much

1023
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: for being with me. Ricky Herbert form more all Whites

1024
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: coach here on News Talks. Heir b time is twenty

1025
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: two minutes away from.

1026
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Speaker 1: Six the Friday sports title with New Zealand Suburby's International

1027
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: Realty find You're one of a guide.

1028
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 5: Fine a halfway line and New Zealand has won the

1029
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: match messioned accomplished New Zealanders.

1030
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 17: What falling hour.

1031
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 10: Cross twenty eight years old?

1032
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 6: I'm working here at Spanish Honestly he's still.

1033
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 7: Matedy all watch back to football's biggest stage. New Zealand

1034
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 7: have made the impossible possible.

1035
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 10: It's finished, Italy won New Zealand one.

1036
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: This is the sports title for your Friday evening. Abbie

1037
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 2: Wilson one new sports editor with us tonight. Hi Abbe, Hello,

1038
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: great to have you on the show. And Jim Kaye's

1039
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: producer of the Breakdown at sky TV is with us too.

1040
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: Hey, Jim Caallo, Ryan Hello Ebs. Nice to have you back. Mate, No,

1041
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 5: thank you, Jim.

1042
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: Hello, hello, Now, Ricky has been quite diplomatic there. But

1043
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: the tobs Fiji, I think forty one dollars to win,

1044
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: so it should be easy enough abby for us at

1045
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: the Caketon A.

1046
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 18: Yes, he was being very diplomatic. I mean I think

1047
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 18: there are fifty nine ranking positions between the two teams,

1048
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 18: so New Zealand undoubtedly should win, although as we know

1049
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 18: in football, every now and then there's an outrage upset.

1050
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 18: But if you sort of look at the probability, New

1051
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 18: Zealand should stroll into the final on Monday and really

1052
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 18: should stroll into the World Cup, which is it's great,

1053
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 18: it's great for Oceania. Will we see the same scenes

1054
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 18: we saw if we Quali High that we saw in

1055
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 18: two thousand and nine for that great game and bah Rang?

1056
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 18: Maybe not, because maybe it has taken a little bit

1057
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 18: of the luster off the accomplishment. But the result is

1058
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 18: the same and you still get to go to a

1059
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 18: World Cup.

1060
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: Jim, what's your take on that?

1061
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: Well, I know that you were sort of hypothesizing is

1062
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 5: it too easy? I was sort of thinking about it.

1063
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 5: Who cares? You know, like if it gets to New

1064
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: Zealand to the World Cup, then then fantastic. Oceania it's

1065
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: a big area. Yes, it's not as strong as some

1066
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 5: of the other football in areas, but you know, you

1067
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 5: can only go the route that you can go, and

1068
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 5: if it's an easy route, then fantastic. And if we

1069
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 5: get the all Whites playing on a World Cup stage

1070
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 5: for only the third time, then that's fantastic as well.

1071
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: So I sort of look at and go, well, you know,

1072
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 5: if it's yeah, as I say, if it's easy, great,

1073
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: you know the result is that your Whites will go

1074
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 5: to the World Cup. Yeah, surely that's what we all want,

1075
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 5: is as sports fans.

1076
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't self flagelate and try and take a hard

1077
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: rod when there's an easy one.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right, you know. And there's two parts we

1079
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 5: can go here, a really hard one or an easy one.

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00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 18: And also there are disadvantages to playing from down in

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00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 18: New Zealand. You know, we're disadvantage with where we are,

1082
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 18: how far away we are from teams. It's kind of

1083
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 18: nice if there is an advantage to our isolation and things.

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00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 18: It's almost about time.

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 5: Exactly a loney of isolation has worked against these youllow

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 5: sports cents for a very long time, so this time,

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Speaker 5: if it works in our favor, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Because you've really turned my negative attitude about this right around.

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Speaker 2: Well done, Amie Wilson and Jim Kay's on the Sports title.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with the rest of the week's sports next.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Title with New Zealand South of East

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Speaker 1: International real Z the ones with local to global reach.

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Speaker 2: Abby Wilson and Jim Kay's on the Sports Huddle tonight.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back guys. Now. Last Friday, I was told unequivocally

1095
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: on this huddle that the Warriors would lose. And I

1096
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: know it wasn't you two that said this, but that

1097
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: the Warriors would lose. And then I last minute bought

1098
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: a ticket, went to the game, fantastic fun and they won.

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00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: So what happens Jim this weekend.

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00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 5: That's a great thing about sport, Ryan, isn't it. Who

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00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 5: would know? Especially with the Warriors. I'm going to say

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00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 5: that the Warriors win again being at home, homeground, advantage,

1103
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 5: unchanged team again, but I'm a momentum behind them, so

1104
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 5: I'm going to pick a Warrior's win. But truly, I

1105
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: don't think anyone really knows because they're a little bit

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: of an up and down team at the moment, and

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00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 5: I think they have been for about a year or so,

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00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: so you know, you could be are you going again tonight?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not going tonight. I've got other things on.

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: But I would actually go back for Abe. I would

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: actually go back for the fireworks at halftime. They was

1112
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: fairwelling Tohu Harris. Honestly, it was bigger than Matadiki, bigger

1113
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: than Guy Fawkes combined. I've never seen anything like it.

1114
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Speaker 2: I thought, how big is their marketing budget?

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Speaker 18: I'm not sure they'd like to know that the only

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00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 18: reason you want to go back is the fireworks rather

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 18: than the on the field fireworks. But I live on

1118
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 18: the shore and I did look at my window as

1119
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 18: I was watching it to see if I could see

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Speaker 18: them from that far away, because they looked impressive.

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00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: They certainly were. So who do you think that? I

1122
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 2: mean is are they on form and they out of form?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that condition games? Who would know?

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00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 5: After two games?

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Speaker 18: I think Jim's right, like, this is the hard thing

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 18: with the Warriors. I would not beat my house on it.

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00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 18: Let's just say that they when they're great, they're great

1128
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 18: when they're awful. Like in Vegas, they're awful, and so

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00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 18: we're early in the season. I usually temporary expectations around

1130
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 18: the Warriors, so I'd love to see them when But

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00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 18: I think they haven't beaten the Roosters in their past

1132
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 18: eight meetings, and they haven't beating them at homes Is

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00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 18: twenty seventeen or some awful stats. So those stats would

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00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 18: say that you know it's going to be tricky. And

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00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 18: the Rooster's beat Penrith last week with an impressive win,

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00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 18: so they'll be riding high off that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, abby, thank you. Now let's go to the

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: Western Springs. What do we think should happen with it next?

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00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: Jim Ah, that's look, where do we begin here?

1140
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: Ryan? I mean, of the three that seemed to me

1141
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: and put forward in the Herald, I do quite like

1142
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: the Mowbray Ali Williams one, which is a sporting venue.

1143
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 5: But mate, I went to Western Springs to watch the

1144
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 5: Police in nineteen eighty four and it's a fantastic music venue,

1145
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 5: so I also like the one that suggests it should

1146
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: be a music venue. What I do know is that

1147
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 5: we have some dogs breakfast stadiums in Auckland and somehow

1148
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 5: someone needs to sort it out. So there is a

1149
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 5: stadium of about twenty four to twenty five thousand for sport,

1150
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 5: there's a great venue for concerts that can take a

1151
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift type crowd because apparently we missed out on

1152
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 5: Tata because the stadium is too small. And then a

1153
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: stadium that also accommodates big test matches and fifty fifty

1154
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 5: sixty thousand people. Greater minds and mind can work that out.

1155
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: But somewhere on this we've got three average stadiums in

1156
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 5: eden Park, Mount Smart and North Harbor, and then we've

1157
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 5: got Western Springs. Surely, surely, Ryan, someone can say this

1158
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 5: is what we're going to do, this is the plan,

1159
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 5: and this is how we're going to have two amazing

1160
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 5: venues in Auckland, because we don't at the moment.

1161
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you've had the nail on the head.

1162
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: That has to be a decision that it's strategic decision

1163
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: that's not just a one off about Western Springs and

1164
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: what do we do? You know, it has to be

1165
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: it has to be more what is the strategy and

1166
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: how does this fit into it?

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00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 5: Abbe how did it work for the city.

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I.

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00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 18: Did a story years ago though, when they were looking

1170
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 18: at building the stadium in christ Church, and these academics

1171
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 18: had looked at it and been like, the big stadiums

1172
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 18: sound great as an idea and it woos everyone and

1173
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 18: you get Taylor Swift, but in practicality, for three hundred

1174
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 18: and fifty days of the year, they're a massive, empty

1175
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 18: white elephant. And I actually think what I liked about

1176
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 18: the sort of Mowbray's proposal was that it's a small

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 18: stadium with other things there. And I actually think a

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 18: twelve and a half thousand seat one it's full more

1179
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 18: often than it's not. It doesn't take up as much room,

1180
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 18: and you get more versatile use from the space day

1181
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 18: in and day out, you know, week and week out.

1182
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 5: And so I actually I see.

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 18: Jim's point about we need a big stadium, we need

1184
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 18: to solve those problems. I don't think Western Springs is

1185
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 18: a solution. I think Western Springs and the facility is

1186
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 18: maybe look at it from a community point of view

1187
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 18: and the sport and what it can provide. And the

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01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 18: bigger issue of a big stadium is we probably have

1189
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 18: to look at what we already have and making them better.

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that and then just fly to Sydney Potato.

1191
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: We keep doing that.

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01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 5: That's the other option is that we're priving ourselves of

1193
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 5: these big acts that could come to New Zealand because

1194
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 5: we don't have a proper venue for them. And that

1195
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 5: to me, you know, we think small all the time.

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01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: You know, why not think big in terms of one

1197
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 5: of the venues and then exactly what Abe said, a

1198
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 5: twelve fifteen thousand seat place for the other ones and

1199
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 5: have have the best of both worlds.

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01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, against the problem big vision. Do we have enough

1201
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: people because you know, when Taylor Swift comes to town,

1202
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: just to keep using her, but she's massive right when

1203
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: she comes down, she wants to do four or five

1204
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: gigs in the same venue. Do we have that number

1205
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: of people who you know, to actually do you.

1206
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 5: Really think she wouldn't sell out at a sixty thousand

1207
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 5: seat stadium four nights in a row. I mean there's

1208
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 5: a lot of teenage girls around, mate, they would all

1209
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 5: be there for every single night of that she's putting

1210
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 5: it on. They've turned up four nights in a row,

1211
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: but the rest.

1212
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Speaker 18: Of the time, you know, you put a super rugby

1213
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 18: team there and they get five thousand in a sixty

1214
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 18: thousand seat stadium.

1215
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 5: That's your other vision. It comes in the twelve thousand

1216
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 5: seat stadiums there, you know, that's where you will.

1217
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: How many stadiums are we going to have in gym'stown?

1218
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 8: We've got.

1219
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 5: Money, you two. We've got three average ones at the moment,

1220
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 5: I'd have two. One is a smaller, be spoky type

1221
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 5: of one and one is a big one that allows

1222
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: for all of the the big, the big gigs that

1223
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 5: you want, whether it be a sporting gig or a

1224
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 5: concert gig, those sorts of things. We need to have

1225
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: two really decent options. And then we also need to

1226
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 5: say to the sports sorry, but you need to play

1227
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 5: Orgland football. They're Blues, they're warriors. There there's no other

1228
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 5: place to go. You've all got to go to the stadium. Well,

1229
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, and maximize the usage of it. At

1230
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 5: the moment, we have three average stadiums and we don't

1231
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 5: really get the best of anything out of all of them.

1232
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: Hey, you just Jim, do you reckon the Sorry?

1233
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 18: I was just say, do you think the all Lax

1234
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 18: would sell out a sixty thousand seats stadium?

1235
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 5: Not? At the moment, that's.

1236
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 18: So we're building for Taylor and Taylor alt.

1237
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 5: But look, six sixty you got fifty thousand people to

1238
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 5: Western Springs. Why you know it doesn't always have to

1239
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 5: just be Taylor Swift, does it.

1240
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. It doesn't. But that wasn't post COVID,

1241
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: wasn't I think Anyway, we digress.

1242
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 5: Anyway, it was a good night. I went there for

1243
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 5: that too.

1244
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: That was a good night, always a good night at

1245
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: six sixty. Hey, very quickly before we go, I just

1246
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: want to get your quick take on Raiser and this

1247
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: whole story this week about him changing his mind on

1248
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: the all Blacks eligibility thing. And then you have the

1249
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: players Union come out and say, oh no, they were

1250
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: sort of on the same page the whole time. They

1251
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: just didn't really realize it. I mean, what, Jim, what.

1252
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 19: Happened the machine said to Taylor to raisor not Taylor

1253
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 19: to raise a you need to conform. Look, the simple

1254
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 19: thing is the best thing that happens in New Zealand

1255
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 19: is that you have to be in New Zealand to

1256
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 19: play for the All Blacks. If that changes, this country

1257
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 19: will empty of decent play.

1258
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 5: They'll all go to Japan. They'll all go to France

1259
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 5: and all go somewhere else and earn lots more money,

1260
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 5: and we will be looking at a super rugby competition

1261
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: that is not super. So New Zealand rugby needs to

1262
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 5: hold on for as long as possible to the fact

1263
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 5: that you have to be in New Zealand to play

1264
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 5: for the All Blacks, because as soon as they change that, honestly,

1265
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 5: this country will empty. All the good players will earn

1266
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 5: lots of money going elsewhere and just play for the

1267
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 5: All Blacks out of Toyota or out of Toulon or

1268
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: out of Leicester. It's as simple as that. Ryan. You

1269
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: change that law and everyone will disappear because there's so

1270
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: much more money. Over says the only thing keeping rugby

1271
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 5: players in yellow at the elite level is the lure

1272
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 5: of the All Blacks Jersey. If that changes, goodbye to

1273
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 5: all of our decent players.

1274
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we have to leave it there. I'm afraid. Abby,

1275
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: thank you very much for coming on, and Jim appreciate you.

1276
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: By the Actually, just before we go, Lizzie has said

1277
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: stuff Taylor Swift, she's a billionaire and why should she

1278
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: get concerts in Auckland. Abby, Wilson Jim Kay's Sports Huddle

1279
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Speaker 2: and twenty flights in the air right now going for

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Speaker 2: Heathrow have had to be diverted because of this closure.

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Speaker 2: This is according to flight Radar. Twenty four scores of

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Speaker 2: flights are already being diverted to other airports. QUANTUS Airways

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Speaker 2: is sending its flight from Perth to Paris, and a

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Speaker 2: United Airlines New York flight heading to Ireland. They are

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Speaker 2: being diverted. Some flights from the US would turning around

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Speaker 2: mid year across the Atlantic and returning to the point

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Speaker 2: of departure, wouldn't that be a buying your ointment for

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Speaker 2: a nice holiday? Overseas. We'll keep you up to date

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Speaker 2: with that. Plus we're talking to the outgoing Chief Onwardsman

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Speaker 2: after six.

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Speaker 1: Where business meets insight, the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: and Mayor's Insurance and investments. Grow your wealth, protect your future,

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 12: And be good.

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Speaker 2: Evening at is seven after the sixth grade to have

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Speaker 2: your company this Friday evening. Barry Soper wraps the political

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Speaker 2: weekend just a moment. Peter Lewis is in Hong Kong

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Speaker 2: for US tonight, promising economic signs out of China, and

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Speaker 2: we'll cross to London where the travel chaos continues at

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Speaker 2: the closure of he Throw Airport. Right now. He's the

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Speaker 2: man who makes sure that we get the truth. The

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Speaker 2: Chief Onbodsman, Peter bouchares his name. He's leaving his role

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Speaker 2: this month after ten years in the job. He quit

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Speaker 2: you'll remember last year. But because the Onbodsman can't be

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Speaker 2: older than seventy two by law. It's a really weird

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Speaker 2: archaic law, but it's true. The current government asked him

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Speaker 2: to stay on anyway, and now his term is finally

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Speaker 2: coming to an end. His parting message a call for

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Speaker 2: stiffer penalties on government departments that delay and get around

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Speaker 2: the release of official information. Peter bouches with me this evening,

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Speaker 2: good evening, good evening. Ryan, How does it feel knowing

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Speaker 2: you're too old for this?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 20: The funny thing is I don't feel too old. So

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Speaker 20: when it comes to whether I'm still enjoying the job

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Speaker 20: and whether I have the answer of yes in both respects.

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Speaker 2: I want to get some juice out of you while

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Speaker 2: we've got you. Who's the worst minister that OAA wise,

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Speaker 2: who's the worst minister or ministry?

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Speaker 20: And Ryan, I'm not even going to begin to answer

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Speaker 20: that one. So you know me, one of the reasons

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Speaker 20: that I think we've done well in this job is

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Speaker 20: we've never gone to the person. We've always gone for

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Speaker 20: the issue, and that's what I'll always continue to do.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you must you must have someone. You must

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Speaker 2: have a little black book of ministers that you'd you know,

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Speaker 2: you'd like to expose.

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Speaker 20: Now, this is a good thing. I don't have a

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Speaker 20: black book. And everything we do is out there and transparent.

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Speaker 20: So I'm I know why you're asking me, and the

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Speaker 20: answer is everything that we do is transparent, there's no secrecy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Then then on a personal level. What are some well,

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Speaker 2: what is the worst you think cover up for want

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Speaker 2: of a better word, that you've come across.

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Speaker 8: Now, I want to say this to you.

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Speaker 20: I don't think we have cover ups in this country.

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Speaker 20: I know some other countries do. But in the the

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Speaker 20: whole of the time that I've done this job, since

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Speaker 20: the end of twenty fifteen, there is a level of

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Speaker 20: transparency that I think we can be thankful for. Where

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Speaker 20: we have to watch it is the fact that we've

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Speaker 20: decreased in our transparency ratings. We're once one, we're now

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Speaker 20: down to number four. We need to watch it run

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Speaker 20: because in some recent bills before Parliament that I've submitted

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Speaker 20: on there are carve outs of the OIA that ministers

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Speaker 20: are introducing. Now that's a slippery slope and we've got

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Speaker 20: to keep our eye on the ball.

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Speaker 2: So most of what because we hear a lot about

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Speaker 2: the OIA, and people you know probably roll their eyes

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Speaker 2: and think, well, who cares. I mean, it is important,

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Speaker 2: but you're saying it's never really in New Zealand an

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Speaker 2: intention intentionally hiding stuff. It's more by accident or not

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Speaker 2: rather than by design.

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Speaker 20: I want to give you and listeners a reassurance that

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Speaker 20: in all the deep dives we've done, we've never found

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Speaker 20: a liberate wish to not release or to cover up.

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Speaker 20: And I do think it's important that I say that

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Speaker 20: to balance up the next comment, which is that whereas

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Speaker 20: some agencies I've singled out as being very very good performers,

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Speaker 20: and Treasury and Department of Premiers from kept our examples,

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Speaker 20: there are some that I've needed to ask them to

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Speaker 20: lift the game because they are not performing in the

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Speaker 20: spirit of this Act. And the Official Information Act is

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Speaker 20: fundamentally important.

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Speaker 12: That it gives you.

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Speaker 20: It gives anyone who wants to the right for accountability

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Speaker 20: from decision makers, and it gives you the right to

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Speaker 20: have input into what's going on. Unless you've got those rights,

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Speaker 20: that's a severe infringement.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do next now that you're

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Speaker 2: too old for it?

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Speaker 20: Now that I'm too old, you keep saying that I

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Speaker 20: know that I am. No, I don't feel old, and

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Speaker 20: I'll continue to be interested in what goes on around me.

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Speaker 20: I'll want to enjoy life of it. But I do

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Speaker 20: think the secret to why I've enjoyed this job so

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Speaker 20: much is because I've always chased the curious I've always

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Speaker 20: wanted to be inquisitive. That's what I'll continue to do.

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Speaker 2: And you're only seventy what not even seventy two for

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Speaker 2: goodness sake, I mean, really, it's not old, is it.

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Speaker 2: They need to change they need to change that law.

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Speaker 20: Well, that's a matter. Yeah, that's very much a matter

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Speaker 20: for Parliament. But I think you're right to raise the

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Speaker 20: issue because is there a magic in an age and

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Speaker 20: the answers? I don't think there is. I think some

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Speaker 20: are who are less than seventy two in whatever probably

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Speaker 20: aren't up to it. There are some, including cabinet ministers,

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Speaker 20: who are well over seventy two, are very much onto it.

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Speaker 20: So I think the artificiality is a bit gross actually.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit arbitrary. Hey, well, thank you very much

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Speaker 2: for coming well over all these years. Really, Peter, it's

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Speaker 2: been great to have you on and I know that

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Speaker 2: you've been quite fastidious in the work that you do.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 20: Well, Ryan, thank you, and also hither all say, look,

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Speaker 20: it's been a pleasure because you're direct in your articulate.

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Speaker 20: All the very best for you as well.

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Speaker 2: Peter, Thank you very much. Peter Bowcha, the outgoing chief

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Speaker 2: Onwardsman time is twelve minutes halfter six. Bryan Bridge Airlines

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Speaker 2: are scrambling trying to reroute their flights, have canceled flights.

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Speaker 2: The rerouting flights. These flights are heading for Heathrow Airport

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Speaker 2: in London. The airport, if you're just joining us, has

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Speaker 2: shut for the entire day because of a massive electrical

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Speaker 2: fire nearby. Jeff Thomas, he's an aviation commentator. He says,

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Speaker 2: this is going to cause massive disruption, massive headaches. For

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Speaker 2: anyone whose flight is impacted today.

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Speaker 21: They're not going to go on the next flight. They're

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Speaker 21: going to be pushed back to the back of a queue.

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Speaker 21: So the passengers who will be leaving, say tomorrow, they'll

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Speaker 21: be okay, and so on and so forth. But the

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Speaker 21: ones that were disrupted today with flights canceled, will have

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Speaker 21: to get onto the first available flight, and that could

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Speaker 21: be a week away, be even two weeks away.

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Speaker 2: Nightmare. Just be grateful that you're on dry land right now.

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Speaker 2: We're going to speak to Gavin Gray, he's in the UK.

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Speaker 2: We'll speak to him about the delays and what impacts

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Speaker 2: having across Europe and also into America. That's coming up

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Speaker 2: in about thirty minutes time. Barrys Soper next wrapping the

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Speaker 2: political week that was.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zebby sixteen after six News Talks ZB. I like this

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Speaker 2: text from Claire because we just interviewed Peter Boucher, who's

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Speaker 2: the chief Onbards outgoing chief Bonwardsman Hi Roan. Peter Boucher

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Speaker 2: is a good man. Our parents were great friends when

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Speaker 2: we were growing up. In fact, I've got a photo

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Speaker 2: taken of us sitting on the couch with our mums

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Speaker 2: when we were six months old. Very precious.

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Speaker 9: There you go.

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Speaker 2: You never know where people are in that, do you clear?

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Speaker 2: Sixteen after six. Now let's go to Barry Soper, senior

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Speaker 2: political correspondent, who is here to wrap the political week

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Speaker 2: that was. Barry, Welcome back, Hello again, Ryan now Lux

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Speaker 2: I think Luxton has been in India so long he'll

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Speaker 2: come back to Indian.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Have made the most of it, haven't they. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know with the cricket games, I mean there wasn't

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Speaker 6: just one. I think there was one in Mumbai, one

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Speaker 6: in New Delhi. So yeah, he's done the rounds and

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Speaker 6: the meeting with Modi, the Prime Minister of India, clearly

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Speaker 6: was a very friendly one. The two had met last

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Speaker 6: year at an international meeting and got on there. But

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Speaker 6: clearly there was a rapport between the two men. And

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Speaker 6: that's good with the Indians because Indians like face to

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Speaker 6: face meetings. And really the last Labor the Labor government

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Speaker 6: ignored India essentially, And when you've got a country that

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Speaker 6: is the third biggest economy in the world one point

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Speaker 6: four or five billion people, the most populous nation on Earth,

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Speaker 6: you'd have to say you can't ignore them as a

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Speaker 6: trading nation. And clearly it was all pre rehearse before

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Speaker 6: he went, because not long had his plane touchdown, then

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Speaker 6: the Indians, along with New Zealand, we're announcing the formal

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Speaker 6: talk to a free trade agreement. Interestingly, though, the Indians

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Speaker 6: haven't ignored Derry, because even Modi himself said, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 6: be talking about that. If they did have Derry included,

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Speaker 6: it would be extraordinary to be like no other free

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Speaker 6: trade agreement that India has got anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 6: So whether we can pull that off is another matter.

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Speaker 6: But don't forget we've done it before with China. Yes,

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Speaker 6: we have that we were the first Western country to

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Speaker 6: sign a free trade deal with them. So you know,

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Speaker 6: my hat comes off to Todd McLay who's been to

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Speaker 6: India I think five times over the past year, and

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Speaker 6: like I said, face to face is what the Indians like.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and depends what we can offer them visa wise

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Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. You know, there may be

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Speaker 2: ways that we can do it. It was great to

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Speaker 2: see actually the two of them hug as well Moody

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Speaker 2: and lastly just shows how close they obviously feel to

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Speaker 2: each other, which is important when you're negotiating. Meanwhile, Peter's

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Speaker 2: and Washington a very different times hugging there, no hugging there.

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Speaker 2: And you've got to wonder because he, I mean we

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Speaker 2: had him on the show, didn't say what he was

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Speaker 2: very cautious, doesn't say much, which is diplomacy. But you've

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Speaker 2: got to wonder whether we got a bit of a

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Speaker 2: racking up. You know, Hey, you guys needed to pull

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Speaker 2: your way into Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think absolutely. I mean it's a bit rich

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Speaker 6: when you think about it, coming from the Americans who

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Speaker 6: had forgotten the Pacific for a number of years, that

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Speaker 6: China waved their flag in the Pacific. Suddenly the Americans

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Speaker 6: have come back saying that we really need a much

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Speaker 6: better presence in the Pacific, a much more influence in

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Speaker 6: the Pacific. So what clearly I think was discussed was

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Speaker 6: the level of our defense spend, and that's a big

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Speaker 6: thing on certainly, the Trump led You book looking at

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Speaker 6: countries seeing how much they spend lux and disease even

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Speaker 6: suggested that we may spend up to two percent of GDP,

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Speaker 6: which is doubling our defense spend. But you won't see

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Speaker 6: it overnight. I would think there will be an announcement

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 6: along those lines when the Defense Review comes back, but

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01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 6: it'll be over the period of about fifteen years, yeah

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Speaker 6: plus point.

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Speaker 2: Some of it will be capital spending tourists. Now, the

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01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: Green Party this week and the notorious criminal Dean Whickcliffe.

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 2: This has been getting under your skin berry.

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Speaker 6: You find it amazing that politicians involved themselves in something

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 6: like this. Dean Whickcliffe shot a man with a pistol

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 6: and a jewelry store in the early seventies and now

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01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 6: you know he's named the Comar tour by Taimotha Paul

1512
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 6: from the Greens who went to see him. And he's

1513
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 6: on a hunger strike, saying he's going to remain on

1514
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 6: it until he gets out of prison. He's claimed that

1515
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 6: the corrections officers have beaten them up, and certainly you

1516
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 6: see the photos he does have skin off his brow.

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01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 6: But they would say that he refused to go into

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01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 6: a cell and that was because he didn't want to

1519
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 6: be double bunked and they got into a scuffle. They

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01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 6: had to bring him down to get him in. But

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 6: he is a seventy seven year old man and you'd

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01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 6: have to say, well, you know. And then Steve Abel,

1523
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 6: the other Green MP, he went to see him as well.

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: They're both saying that what the Corrections Minister should do

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01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 6: is to interfere and get den Wickliffe out of jail.

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 6: The problem was when he was out the last time

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01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 6: he'd broken his conditions of parole. He's living in his

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01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 6: car with his cats and that's hardly satisfactory living because

1529
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 6: it is against the parole conditions he is released under.

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 6: So he's got himself to blame to an extent, although

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 6: I suppose you have to say that compassion in the

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01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 6: end would have to be shown and he'll probably be

1533
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 6: found so where to live. I mean, he's an elderly man.

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01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 2: He's an elderly man now. Just finally and very quickly, GDP,

1535
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: we've got the number we wanted, which is not a recession.

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01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: In fact, it was surprised on the upside at point

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01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: seven and people saying, look, I still don't feel like

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm getting any richer here. That feeling will continue for

1539
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 2: a long time.

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01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 6: The problem, isn't it right, Because an economy doesn't improve

1541
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 6: unless there's a general feeling of well being, and there's

1542
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,520
Speaker 6: not at the moment. We've still got pretty high unemployment

1543
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 6: for New Zealand, and people are finding it hard to

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01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 6: pay the home their home bills like groceries and rates

1545
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 6: and mortgage interest rates and what have you. But things

1546
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 6: are tracking in the right direction. You look at the

1547
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 6: dairy payout that's upcoming about ten dollars a killo, which

1548
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 6: will feedback into the community. You've got tourism now almost

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01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 6: pre COVID levels, so that's good. So there are good

1550
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 6: signs there and it's only when I guess those signs

1551
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 6: flow through to the economy that will all feel better

1552
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 6: about each other and about the government.

1553
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Speaker 2: Barry, thank you very much for that, Barry. Soaper News

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Speaker 2: Talks they'd be senior political correspondent. Coming up after six thirty,

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to Peter Lewis's our Asia Business correspondent.

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: Some really interesting numbers out of China retail sales, investment

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: and industrial production numbers. They are quite good, which in

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01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: turn will be good for us all ahead.

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01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: Croaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge

1560
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: with the Business Hour and MAS Insurance and investments. Grew

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: your wealth, Protect your future newstalks 'b six twenty six.

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: On newstalksz'b. Richard says, Ryan, we've had consistently high inflation

1563
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: on everything, increases on everything being compounded, and prices already

1564
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: elevated levels. I doubt anyone has had a pay rise

1565
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: to be able to ensure that they keep pace with

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: the inflation. That is the problem that we've had deflation,

1567
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: not disinflation. In other words, the rate of inflation has slowed,

1568
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 2: but prices haven't dropped back down to where they were

1569
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. You know, so it takes a long time,

1570
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: especially if you haven't had a pay raise. It takes

1571
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: a long time to feel like one. You're sort of

1572
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,839
Speaker 2: standing still again before you can even start walking nineteen

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01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: nine two is the number to text. I really like

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01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: this story out of the Spanish Parliament. So what they're

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01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: doing over there is trying to much like they did

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01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: with our food waste bins here in New Zealand, trying

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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: to reduce their waste from you know, food waste basically.

1578
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 2: So the Spanish Parliament tries to do this, introduces a

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01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: whole bunch of measures and that this is the conservationists

1580
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: and the climate change people wanting to cut the food waste.

1581
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: And so the far right and the populist parties get

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01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: on board and take advantage of this by saying, well,

1583
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: we're going to ban a sorry, reverse the ban on

1584
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: hunting wolves because wolves go after the sheep, the sheep

1585
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 2: leave the carcass. They say that's food based, therefore let's

1586
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: lift the ban on hunting wolves. Well you can imagine

1587
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: how the conservationists feel about that.

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 10: One post a MAZONI.

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro microbe or just playing economics, it's all

1590
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: on the business hours with Ryan Bridge and theirs. Insurance

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01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.

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01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 10: These talks by my get me.

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Speaker 2: Five away from seven on news TALKSB We're going to

1594
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: get to Gavin Graham the UK for the latest on

1595
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 2: the Heathrow Airport situation the closed down, and Peter Lewis

1596
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: is standing by for an update In Asia, Hi Jinping

1597
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: going to head to Washington apparently, but when. Just briefly though,

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Speaker 2: I've written a piece of The Herald on Sunday, which

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Speaker 2: you can read on Sunday morning. If you're interested at

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Speaker 2: inzed Herald dot co dot MZ, you can go online

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01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: and have a read, but I've done this week. We

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 2: had an interview with Nikola Willis here on the show

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01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: on Monday just about how squeezed the government's books are

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: going to be, and obviously she's putting together a very

1605
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: important budget. Government borrowing is coming under the spotlight. Our

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 2: debt servicing costs for the first time are going to

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01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: be more than what we spend on primary and secondary

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01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: schools and on the Ministry of Justice combined. And there's

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01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: a report out today from the OECD. We're not alone

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01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: in this. The cost of government debt payments and the

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01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: richest countries in the world ie the OECD has reached

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01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: its highest level since two thousand and seven, outstripping the

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: amounts spent on defense, police services and housing. This is

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01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: for all of the OECD debt service costs is a

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: percentage of national incoming gone from three point from two

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01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: point four up to three point three. Now the problem

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01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: is not only did we all borrow, you know, to

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01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: the HELT during COVID years, but we've now got these

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01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: richer economies trying to transition, do the green transition that

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: cost money. They're all trying now to do the high

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01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 2: defense spending that costs money. And they all have aging

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: populations which are very expensive things to have because of

1623
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 2: hospitals and superannuations and all sorts of stuff. And so

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01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 2: you start to think, well, no wonder the IMF is

1625
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: talking about a capital gains tax. No wonder everyone started

1626
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 2: talking about taxes, because how the hell else are they

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01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: going to pay for anything? That is governments anywhere? Twenty

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Speaker 2: three away from seven, Ryan Bridge, Peter Lewis is our

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Speaker 2: Asia business correspondent, Peter Good Evening, Hello, Ryan. Now, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump did tease that Cheshinping would be visiting the US soon.

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01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: But how soon could he visit?

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Speaker 22: He didn't say, And indeed it was a tease. He

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01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 22: keeps on touting this really good relationship that he has

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01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 22: with Ji Jinping that although they have their differences on

1635
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 22: trade and some other issues, they're good mates. They like

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01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 22: each other get on with each other. China said nothing

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01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 22: at all publicly about this meeting, and personally, I think

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 22: it's very unlikely that it will happen at the moment

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01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 22: under the current circumstances, because I don't think Donald Trump's

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01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 22: relationship with Jijinping is as good as he likes to

1641
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 22: make out. But also a visit to the US right

1642
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 22: now will be a huge risk for President Jijingping and

1643
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 22: China anyway, doesn't like to do these visits until all

1644
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 22: the details are sorted out in advance. You know exactly

1645
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 22: what's going to happen, who's going to say, what deals

1646
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 22: are going to be signed, what agreements are going to

1647
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 22: be made. Donald Trump likes to make it up while

1648
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 22: they're there, so nothing is agreed in advance, and it's

1649
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 22: all done sort of on the spot. So it's a

1650
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 22: risk for President g I mean, what happens if Donald

1651
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 22: Trump does a Zelinsky on him and throws him out

1652
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 22: of the White House or something, or more likely, you know,

1653
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 22: slaps tariffs on China while he's there, because they haven't

1654
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 22: got an agreement that he wants. And you know, the

1655
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 22: local media here says that when President g went to

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01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 22: Washington in Trump's first term, he concluded afterwards that it

1657
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 22: was a mistake and that he shouldn't really have gone.

1658
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 22: And in particular, right now, there's a sort of similar

1659
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 22: situation because the US is doing this China related trade study.

1660
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 22: Trump has ordered that to be completed by April first,

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01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 22: so there's no way that she's going to go to

1662
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 22: China before that and before they see the results of

1663
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 22: what this trade study is and what conclusions the US

1664
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 22: has come to about China trade.

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01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all just a bit too volatile and the Oval

1666
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Office that sounds like good news for exporters. China's beaten

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01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: expectations on its economic expectations. I've had strong retail sales, Peter, Yes,

1668
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: it has.

1669
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 22: I mean the numbers for January and February combined together,

1670
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 22: so we get the numbers for those two months. That's

1671
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 22: because the Lunar New Year Festival comes sometime in January

1672
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 22: or February each year, and it distorts the figures, so

1673
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 22: they combine the two together. But if you look at them,

1674
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 22: retail sales are up about four percent in that period,

1675
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 22: consumer spending and industrial production both growing more than expected,

1676
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 22: so on the basics of underlying economy, things not looking

1677
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 22: too bad. However, the upply's annointment unemployment rose to a

1678
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 22: two year high, and youth unemployment in particular is surging

1679
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 22: that's about seventeen percent. And also the property market is

1680
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 22: still declining after three years of declines, there's still no

1681
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 22: signs of stabilization in that and that's a big problem

1682
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 22: because by far the Chinese person's biggest asset is property.

1683
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 22: Several families in many families in China owned more than

1684
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 22: one property, and they're seeing the values of them decline,

1685
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 22: particularly in the secondary markets where you don't have the

1686
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 22: price controls that China puts on properties in the way

1687
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 22: that it does in new build homes, and that's affecting

1688
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 22: their confidence and their willingness to go and spend. So

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01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 22: it leaves China very reliant on exports in an environment

1690
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 22: where trade is very much under threat. So there are

1691
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 22: vulnerabilities in the Chinese economy. And it's again and again

1692
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 22: it comes down to the same thing. We need consumers

1693
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 22: to start spending. The government's talked about all sorts of

1694
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 22: measures to try and boost consumer spending, but so far

1695
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 22: they haven't really worked. In my view, the best way

1696
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 22: to get consumers spend is to give them more money.

1697
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 22: If they have more money in their pockets, they're more

1698
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 22: likely to go and spend it. And there's a number

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01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 22: of ways in which you could do that. You could

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 22: raise the minimum wage, you could cut taxes, you could

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01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 22: hand out consumption vouchers, and those are the ways in which,

1702
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 22: you know, maybe consumers will go out and spend. But

1703
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 22: for various reasons, the Chinese government doesn't want to do

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01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 22: any of them.

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01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting that paid Kidabas. Obviously, the Pacific nation got

1706
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: a lot of minerals and metals underneath the ocean floor

1707
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 2: around it, and part of it's easy, and they're eyeing

1708
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: a deal with China about potentially mining some of it.

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01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 4: Yes, that's right.

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01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 22: I mean, this is a sort of you know, a

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Speaker 22: very potentially a very lucrative business for Kim about it. So,

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Speaker 22: you know, and then there's a whole series of nations

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Speaker 22: there as you know, who are all on the forefront

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Speaker 22: of this push to try and mine the depths of

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Speaker 22: the ocean to get rare earth minerals from there which

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Speaker 22: are believed to be at the ocean bed. They were

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Speaker 22: doing a deal with a company called the Metals Company,

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Speaker 22: which specializes in trying to get these rare minerals off

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Speaker 22: the off the ocean bed, but that fell through. And

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Speaker 22: there's a whole range of countries there, Cook Islands know,

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Speaker 22: all looking at similar things, and they're now talking about

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Speaker 22: doing a deal with China, doing a partnership with China

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Speaker 22: to try and mine these minerals. Apparently discussions have been

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Speaker 22: opened with the Chinese ambassador after that deal with the

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Speaker 22: Metals Company fell through. I think the concern for many nations,

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Speaker 22: like yourselves in New Zealand in Australia is what happens next,

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Speaker 22: because these things start in fairly innoculous ways, and then

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Speaker 22: before you know it, you've got Chinese vessels for you know,

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Speaker 22: docking in ports and China sort of building ports for

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Speaker 22: for the for these countries, and it's sort of grows

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Speaker 22: and grows, and that's what concerns people, I think around

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Speaker 22: the Pacific nations.

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Speaker 2: Peter, thank you very much for that update. As always,

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Speaker 2: Peter lewis out Asia Business correspondent. Time is sixteen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven here on News Talks. Edb at Heathrow Airport,

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Speaker 2: Europe's busiest airport. No planes are flying today. Gavin Gray

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Speaker 2: are update us on that next.

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Speaker 2: Your News TALKSB. It's quarter to seven and quarter to

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Speaker 2: six in the UK and London right now. Gavin Gray

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Speaker 2: is with us and no flights going anywhere around Heathrow

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Speaker 2: Airport today.

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Speaker 17: Gavin no a massive, massive disruption to travelers. At one

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Speaker 17: point a couple of hours back, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 17: flights were in the air and had to be turned

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Speaker 17: around or sent to alternative airports. That was a short

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Speaker 17: time ago, but of course he threw a massive hub

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Speaker 17: for not just coming in but going out of the UK.

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Speaker 17: Eighty three point nine million passengers passed through its terminals

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Speaker 17: last year and it was handling roughly one thousand, three

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Speaker 17: hundred plane movements, so landings and takeoffs each day. So

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Speaker 17: that's what's being shifted today in fact todly precise one

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Speaker 17: three hundred and fifty one.

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Speaker 2: So it's a huge concern.

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Speaker 17: People have been reporting being in the air being sent

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Speaker 17: back to their original destination. Others are going to be

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Speaker 17: landing in cities or other airports that they didn't know

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Speaker 17: they were going to get to. And we are waiting

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Speaker 17: for a statement now from Heathrower, but we're expecting that soon.

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Speaker 17: But certainly the power companies are saying, look, this is

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Speaker 17: going to take some.

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Speaker 4: Time to sort this out.

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Speaker 17: The National Grid have saying, quote, we're working at speech

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Speaker 17: or a store power supply as quickly as possible. All

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Speaker 17: this because of a far at a substation nearby. And

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Speaker 17: it's not just the airport but it's about thirteen hundred

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Speaker 17: properties nearby as well, so it's a really massive disruption.

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Speaker 17: And as of about twenty minutes ago was the last sighting,

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Speaker 17: there is still flames. So this is going to take

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Speaker 17: not just today the knock on her fake is going

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Speaker 17: to last several days.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's still flames burning now goodness.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's certainly a very very thick smoke so that

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Speaker 17: the fire service still there. But even if it were

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Speaker 17: to be back and out and you know there, it's

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Speaker 17: going to take fixing. And even if it's fixed, ether

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Speaker 17: Eppot has already said we are shutting through until midnight

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Speaker 17: to night at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, and they've got to put safety first. Obviously

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Speaker 2: they're an import, don't they. So you can't argue with that. Now,

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Sturgeon, what's happening with her? And the police were involved?

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Speaker 2: You know there was a Police Scotland investigation into her

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Speaker 2: finances and the political party's finances. Is she off the

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Speaker 2: hook for this?

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Speaker 17: Yes she is, and she said there is not a

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Speaker 17: shred of evidence against me. So, Nicholas Sturgeon incredibly popular

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Speaker 17: when she was Leader of Scotland. Of course, she tries

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Speaker 17: to force through Scottish independence and failed narrowly, but she

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Speaker 17: remained very, very popular. And then whole question started to

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01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 17: be asked about hundreds of thousands of pounds hundreds of

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01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 17: thousands of New Zealand dollars regarding the fees and other

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Speaker 17: donations given to the Scottish National Party, and that is,

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Speaker 17: of course the party that really pushes for independence in Scotland. Now,

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Speaker 17: she and her husband, the former chief executive of the

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Speaker 17: Scottish National Party and indeed the Treasurer were all under suspicion.

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Speaker 17: But when her former husband, the chief Executive, Peter Burrell,

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Speaker 17: appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff god He was charged with embezzlement

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Speaker 17: and made no plea during a private hearing. He was

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Speaker 17: granted bail, but Nicholas Sturgeon herself and indeed the former

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Speaker 17: Treasurer Colin Beatty, would told they were no longer under investigation.

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Speaker 17: As I said, this all stems from donations that are

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Speaker 17: about one point four million New Zealand dollars in donations

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Speaker 17: given by independence activists, and it was led to her

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01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 17: home being searched, the home she had shared with her

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Speaker 17: former husband. And also there was the discovery of a

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Speaker 17: motor home, a luxury motorhome parked in the driveway of

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Speaker 17: her husband's mother. So Peter Murrell's mother had this bizarre

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Speaker 17: luxury motor home partner. All sorts of questions about how

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Speaker 17: the money for that was procured, and we wait to

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Speaker 17: see in the long run how his case of embezzlement

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Speaker 17: goes on. But as I said, Nicholas Sturgeon and Colin

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Speaker 17: Beatty given the complete all clear goodness.

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Speaker 2: May if you're going to go for political ambuzlement, you'd

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Speaker 2: want more than a motor heme. Surely Finland is happy,

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01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: they happy, But what about the Brits and where did

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Speaker 2: you rank on this happy souve.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, not very well so the UN the United Nations

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Speaker 17: always looks at a World Happiness report where are the

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Speaker 17: people living in different countries happy?

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Speaker 4: And if so, how or why? And Finland tops that.

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Speaker 17: Ranking for the eighth consecutive year. It's actually ahead of

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Speaker 17: three other Nordic companies in this particular report, while in

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Speaker 17: Latin America, Costa Rica and Mexico enter the top ten.

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Speaker 17: For the first time you ask about the UK, I'm

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Speaker 17: afraid we're down to twenty third. We drop down a

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Speaker 17: couple of places. America drop down to twenty fourth, the

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Speaker 17: lowest ever position for the latter. How did New Zealand

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Speaker 17: do well? New Zealand has come in at twelfth, the

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Speaker 17: same position as last year, Australia eleventh, and both Australia

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Speaker 17: and New Zealand are one place down in the last

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Speaker 17: two years, but nevertheless sort of holding their position and

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Speaker 17: significantly above the UK. So the top ten Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Netherlands,

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Speaker 17: Costa Rica, Norway, Israel, Luxembourg and Mexico, and at the

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Speaker 17: bottom of the table of the one hundred ninety seventh

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Speaker 17: Gabon ninety eighth, the Ivory Coast, ninety ninth Iran and

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Speaker 17: one hundredth Congo, So Africa very heavily weighted at the

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Speaker 17: bottom end. So why might people be happy, Well, they're

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Speaker 17: saying it could be a change in direction of political polarization.

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Speaker 17: Sharing meals they believe is a strength to happiness. And

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Speaker 17: also there are you know, household size. They're saying four

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Speaker 17: or five people living together has the highest levels of

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Speaker 17: happiness in Europe.

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Speaker 2: There you go, bit a company, bit of food. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: hippy given. Thank you for that. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent.

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