1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Got some movement on the issue that's turned up in 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: housing townhouse overheating, So the Construction Minister is going to 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: change ventilation requirements for new builds. Overheating because of poor 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: planning has become a real thing now. David Whitburn is 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: a developer and investor and he's well, there's David. A 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: very good morning to you. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Good morning. 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Seems as am I being unfair? It seems very hard 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: to believe. I mean, it's not like we started building 10 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: houses last Wednesday. How is it we're still building houses 11 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: that don't work properly. 12 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: It's a throwback to when my grandfather was building. We'd 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: have the gable vents and we'd have a few gaps 14 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: and the floorboards and houses could actually breathe properly. These days, 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: unfortunately the houses are tied there. It can get a 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: bit cooked alive because the ears simply not circulating. We've 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: got small egs with so particularly in the north and 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: western facing the windows, we're having some real problems. So 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: sometimes Minister Chris Pink's quite correct that people are getting 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: cooked alive in their own homes. With some design challenges 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: with houses are simply not breathing properly. 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Is this design or cost? Is it driven by costs 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: therefore you get the problems on design or is it 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: we just don't know how to design ours properly. 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: It's a bit of both, Mike. We have some design challenges. 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: We're not forced to do this. The building code has 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: changed in terms of what you alluded to with those 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: H one rolls. We've got to make sure that we 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: get the insulation standards correct, that there's been no changes 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: to the ventilation aspects of it. And then the cost 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: drivers are there where developers are trying to minimize their 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: costs and as a result, a few things go and 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people want to have the large windows. 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Then they don't give too much thought to how your 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: tenant's going to feel and what's it like at thirty 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: degrees at nine o'clock at night when you're trying to 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: get to sleep in summer. 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Is this a real issue in terms of there are 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: vast swathes of townhouses out there with the problem or 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: is this a little bit of an urban myth. 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: No, this is a genuine issue. I did a development 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: finishing it just a couple of years ago. Seventy four 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: terraced houses in west Auckland, and some of them that 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: do have north or northwest faces do get rather warmer 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: in there. So it's one that I think can be 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: addressed with active ventilation. The healthy Homes stands only deal 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: with the living room. There's nothing in the bedrooms, and 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: potentially we can deal with this with active ventilation, but 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: there can be some design having breathed or building papers 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: to do. This is a genuine issue, and I am 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: aware from a niece that's fainted and one of her properties. 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: It's what's in a property she's rented as well. The 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: temperatures of that can simply just be too hot and 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: there's a genuine problem that needs to be addressed well. 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: On David Nisens, I appreciate it very much, David Whitburne, 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: who's a professional property developer and investment For 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: More from the Mic Hosking Breakfast, listen live to news 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: talks that'd be from six weekdays, or follow the podcast 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.