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Speaker 1: Bring out the planks, lenders, celebrations, figs.

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Speaker 2: Are a league premius.

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Speaker 3: It's given it a ryde Ryan Fox, fantastic.

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Speaker 4: A hool Bernie been the first playoff hole.

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Speaker 3: I'm delighted that Naples has ended up coming out on top.

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Speaker 5: It's a great city, it's a great sailing venue. It'll

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Speaker 5: be a wonderful location for the next America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: Right on the sports title with us this evening, Abby

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Speaker 3: Wilson won new sports editor.

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Speaker 1: Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown at sky TV.

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Speaker 2: Hi U too good?

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Speaker 1: Hello Abby? What do you reckon? Is the key hungry players?

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Speaker 1: Like is that more important than talent? Hunger over talent?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a bit of both.

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Speaker 7: Like they got hungry players in those hungry players have

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Speaker 7: shown their talent and now they still have that hunger.

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Speaker 7: And I guess a point to prove not just you know,

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Speaker 7: to win the A League, but also to this team

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Speaker 7: that had faith in them. Like you think of players

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Speaker 7: like Francis to Freeze right was playing club football. He

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Speaker 7: comes to Auckland FC does really well back in the

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Speaker 7: all Whites fold, and so you know, you want to

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Speaker 7: reward the people who've batch you don't you if your

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Speaker 7: players like that? And so I think there is that hunger.

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Speaker 7: I went to training this week, which I haven't done

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Speaker 7: all season, and I was impressed, like they were into it,

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Speaker 7: they were aggressive, they were not holding back, and I

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Speaker 7: don't doubt that there's a lot of hunger.

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Speaker 1: Is Abby Is Alex Poulsen off next season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean he's made such a difference as that, that

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Speaker 7: goalie for them, But I mean it was an interesting

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Speaker 7: way how he ended up there. Remember he was with

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Speaker 7: the Phoenix, Bill Foley signs into his you know, a

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Speaker 7: foreign team and then he ends up at the Auckland

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Speaker 7: f C. He's made a major difference. It'll be interesting

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Speaker 7: next year how they go. But again he also you know,

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Speaker 7: would want to go out in the high Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Probably, Oh well, i'd imagine absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Jim, are you how you've seen a fair few seasons

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Speaker 1: How impressed are you this lot?

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Speaker 5: It's just incredible And I mean your question to Steve

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Speaker 2: And not just on the field but in the stands,

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Speaker 5: Know, everywhere you turn someone's wearing an AFC shirt or

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Speaker 5: one day will ride a thesis on it and we

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Speaker 2: But it is amazing.

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Speaker 5: I've not seen anything like this in New Zealand for

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Speaker 2: Like a World Cup, you know, the Cricket World Cup,

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about that soon, say ninety five,

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Speaker 5: and those sorts of things. But for a club like this,

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Speaker 5: I've not seen anything like it. It's quite staggering and

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Speaker 5: it's wonderful. Like it's easy to get excited for them,

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of the America's Cup, Jym So, I was

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Speaker 3: listening to somebody this morning having a giant winge about

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Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's Grant Dalton's team. Are we ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Who cares? I mean, it's an international sport. It's

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Speaker 5: That person they're talking about is marriage to Quibia's kids

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Speaker 5: don't know what qualifies it nowadays as being a news yellander.

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Speaker 5: But look, this has been an international team for an

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Speaker 5: if you're going to get upset, then then don't watch it,

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Speaker 2: It, you know, don't get interested in it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, it's like complaining that Formula

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Speaker 1: I think Jim's bang on here, Abby. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: I feel like people read about the America's Cup and

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Speaker 7: Yeah they are, I mean, but I would also say

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Speaker 6: And so I think if your team New Zealand.

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Speaker 7: You have to accept that making decisions like this, it

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Speaker 7: Now they'd argue that they've made these decisions to win,

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Speaker 5: And I'd argue that they don't care. They have zero

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and because they're winning, they are winning as well,

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Speaker 7: aren't they And so is that more important than sports.

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Speaker 5: And whether you know, I mean the Red Sox campaign,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely agree, All right, Okay, sports huddles back with us,

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Speaker 3: and I just cannot get excited about the Sky. Apparently

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Speaker 3: Jim is bringing back televised first fifteen rugby. Who watches

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Speaker 3: televised first fifteen rugby?

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Speaker 2: Loads of people?

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Speaker 5: You'd be very surprised, loads and loads of people.

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Speaker 2: If you're a kid at the school, you're a parent,

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Speaker 1: Are you're saying this because you're employed at Sky.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm saying it because that's not the numbers show.

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Speaker 5: And it only went away when the one A pulled

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Speaker 2: So where their morals are I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 1: This is a convincing argument, Abby, But do you sit

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Speaker 6: No? But Heather, you and I don't have children. Who

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Speaker 6: play first fifteen rugby.

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Speaker 7: We probably didn't play first fifteen rugby ourselves, but I

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Speaker 7: great Are you I know the kids that you went

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Speaker 7: to see and neither none of them are in the

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Speaker 7: first fifteen age No, but all the families then went

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Speaker 6: Are you're going to watch it?

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Speaker 1: Are you telling me.

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Speaker 3: That there were families who went to watch the first

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Speaker 6: Yep, maybe they have a link or they're involved.

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Speaker 4: With the girls do the a lot of time, Heather,

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Speaker 3: No, I'm getting schooled on this because Jim I thought

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Speaker 3: for firse fifteen? But you're telling me this is potentially

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Speaker 2: And it's a great product.

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Speaker 5: It's a good style of rugby, it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: It's highly entertaining.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it gets watched and and you know, as Abbi said,

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Speaker 2: They love watching their current school. They love watching their.

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Speaker 5: Son or daughter, grandson, granddaughter, those sorts of things playing

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Speaker 2: There's a huge amount of pride.

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Speaker 5: Come on, you know, if you're from christ Church, the

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Speaker 5: first thing you asked anyone is what school did you go?

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Speaker 4: That's you know, it's not always a good thing.

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Speaker 3: And then but once, so what you're saying is once

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Speaker 2: You were right. I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And Abbs kids are the same.

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Speaker 3: Abbey, your kids are like roughly the same age as

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Speaker 1: It's going to be north Shore totally be the whole way. Abby. Listen,

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did you expect that Ryan was going to do as

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Speaker 7: I am backed him in my sweep steak, And can

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Speaker 7: I just tell you why? Because sometimes I think when

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Speaker 7: the best way to play golf. He wasn't expected to

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Speaker 7: he probably hasn't had the preparation he should have had

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Speaker 7: you probably play with a bit of freedom.

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Speaker 6: And enjoyment that you don't normally have.

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Speaker 7: Whether he can string four wonderful rounds together is the

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Speaker 6: But if I mean, as long as it's not really

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Speaker 7: Scoring over the four rounds, if there's a few challenges

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon, Jim?

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 5: I think He's a sort of sports person that Kiei's

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Speaker 5: loves a burger, loves to go fishing with his mates,

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Speaker 5: plays golf with a little bit of carefree, abandoned. You

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Speaker 5: know the shot that won that won the PGA tournament

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Speaker 5: the other week, you know, he gave it a feroh

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Speaker 5: tonk and it just went straight the whole way. You know,

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Speaker 5: at work everyone was hooping and hollering. I think he's great.

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Speaker 5: He's a breath of fresh air for his ill in sport.

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Speaker 5: He's been around a while. But you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: or power to him.

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Speaker 2: I hope he wins as many things as he can.

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Speaker 2: He seems to be very very popular.

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Speaker 5: Guys Rory McElroy rate him, of friends with him. He's

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Speaker 5: great for the sport and he's he's a fun loving

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Speaker 5: Kiwi sportsman.

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Speaker 2: More powerful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to support him.

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