1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mc hsking. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: commercial and rural news Togsdad Been morning. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: And welcome today to Kidney Revamp. As the rules get changed? 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Has Trump panicked on tariffs? We've got neur ruals from 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: banks to protect the scammed. New idea for New Zealand 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: cricket to keep our players. Tim Katy did the week, 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Joe's and Rome and Rod ponies up the news from 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: the Netherland pasking Here we go seven past six. Tell 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: you what. Poles are funny things at the best of times, 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: and despite plenty of evidence that they can be as 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: wrong as they can be right, we still seem fascinated, 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: if not obsessed, by them. There are a couple of 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: races at the moment being heavily polled, Australia and Canada. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: Canada votes this Monday. Australia in a couple of weeks. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Canada's way more interesting for no other reason than the 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: incumbents were losing by so far it wasn't funny, but 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: are now leading. The PM quit and the new bloke 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Karney who once ran the bank of Canada and the 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Bank of England is now chasing the top job. On 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: the surface, that change of leadership by itself might have 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: played a part in pots voter's mines. Trudeau was passed 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: as used by Dayton Jisinda Adern loved them, hated them 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: kind of way more likely south of the border, Trump 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: got elected, tariffs became an issue in Carney looks like 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: the person who can better stand up to America. Polling 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: out yesterday says the Conservatives are closing as people refocus 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: on local issues like housing and cost of living, but 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: the gap is still twelve points, which is amazing, an 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: amazing swing given the gap was twenty points the other 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: way until the tariff stole the headlines. Meantime, in Australia, 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: it's gone from a race where the incumbent would be 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: lucky to survive, far less thrive, where a hung Parliament 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: was probable, requiring any number of accommodations with the Greens 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: and the Teals, and the independence given a minority was 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: the best that Elbaneze could hope for, to what increasingly 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: looks like an easy romp home with a majority marginal seat. 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Polling also out yesterday shows labor with a three and 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: a half percent swing in the past week. Another pole 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: at forty five percent of voters saying they didn't like 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: Dutton's personality, therefore they wouldn't vote. From competence, cost of living, 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: that apparently doesn't count. You look at him, you don't 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: like him. The taste hardly seems a sophisticated way to 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: decide the future of your nation. But then that's democracy, 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: isn't it. One argument says Elbow should when, of course, 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: because first term governments don't lose. Happened since the thirties. 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: But Canada tell you what if the polls are right, 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: that would be a victory from the ashes. What happens 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: in another country, i e. America is so profound the 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: party that was getting thrashed has their fortunes completely reversed. 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: That's one for the history books. 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: Wow, news of the world in ninety six. 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: So where are we at with this morning and this wonderful, 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: swelling world of tariffs and mixed messages? While Trumpet's treasury 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: man Bessense is giving the World Bank what four over China. 56 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: China's current economic model is built on exporting its way 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: out of its economic troubles. It's an unsustainable model that 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: is not only harming China but the entire world. China 59 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: needs to change. China can start by moving its economy 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: away from export over capacity and towards supporting its own 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: consumers and domestic demand. 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Man himself is running the usual lines about deals and 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: fortunes falling from the sky. 64 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: Teriff negotiations are going very well. We're dealing with many, 65 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: many countries. They all want to be involved with America. 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: We have a lot of action going on. We have 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: We're making a lot of money this country. This country 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: is not going to be losing money on trade anymore. 69 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: I think we were losing two trillion dollars a year 70 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: on trade. 71 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: Now we're going to be making money, a. 72 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: Lot of money. 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: To Don's too, I see is that in the world 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Reich writing that this whole Ukraine war come, peace deal come. 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I'll get it sorted on by one Malachy. That's off 76 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: unless everyone gets moving. 77 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 6: We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians 78 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 6: and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either 79 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: say yes or for the United States to walk away 80 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 6: from this process. We've engaged in an extraordinary amount of diplomacy. 81 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 6: We're going to see if the Europeans, the Russians and 82 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 6: the Ukrainians are ultimately able to get this thing over the. 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: Finish line associated met as. We gave you the Tesla 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: numbers yesterday. Of course they're a mess. Elon's heading back 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: to the office to focus on the cars. 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 7: Starting May, my time allegation to do it will drop significantly. 87 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 7: I think I'll continue to spend a day or two 88 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 7: per week on govern matters for as long as the 89 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 7: President would like me to do so, and as long 90 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 7: as it is useful. 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: Then to this terror attack and Kashmia twenty six a 92 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: day it's picked to receiason. The Indians are furious. 93 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 8: Those behind this heenous acts will be brought to justice. 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 8: They will not be spared. The evil agenda will never succeed. 95 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 8: Our resolve to fight terrorism is unshakable. Finally, even stronger. 96 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: Indeed, we have an Australian woman who has got it 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: Guinness World Record this morning for her collection of minions. 98 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: I think despicable me anyway, Aleasel's her name. She lives 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: in Wi. She's got one thousand and thirty five of them, 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: which makes that a record. She said I will never 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: stop buying Minions to bring home, to join my Minion, 102 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: to bring home to my Minion family. That is the 103 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: news of the world in ninety By the way, so 104 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: the ball which episode also has an election? May three, 105 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: the campaigning officially started yesterday. Their inflation came an unchanged 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: at zero point nine. That's headline core inflation at zero 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: point five, well and truly under control. 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Twelve past six, The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, Car of My News talks EVY. 110 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: Another fun day in Europe for Apple and Meta. Apple 111 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: failed to comply with anti steering obligations. Meta illegally required 112 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: users to consent to sharing their data with the company 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: or pay for an ad free service. You don't do 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: that in Europe because the Europeans will find you. On 115 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Apple's case, there's a billion and a Metas case, it's 116 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: half a billion dollars. So fun times for them. Fifteen 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: past six. 118 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: I have no money a month. 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: My question would be how many times that to get 120 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: par you'll actually change the way they do business anyway. 121 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: From Westpac Chief economist Kelly cold is back with us. 122 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: Kelly morning, was Trump blinked you reckon has he blinked? 123 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Is he panicked? 124 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 9: Well, it certainly seems to be a bit of change 125 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 9: in tone coming through on a few areas. There's been 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 9: a bit of change of tune in terms of his 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 9: views on key personnel. You know, a couple of days 128 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 9: ago he was threatening to remove the fair chair, and 129 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 9: that caused a bit of a plunge in US markets 130 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 9: more generally, as people didn't really like the prospect of 131 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 9: the adult in the room leaving the kids till it. 132 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 9: But yesterday he announced a change of heart. He declared 133 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 9: that he actually had no intention of sacking power at all. 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 9: He just wanted to impress on him that he would 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 9: really prefer interest rates to be cut to suppoor growth. 136 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 9: Markets are of course very relieved to hear that, because 137 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 9: that's just the standard modus operandi of the government's relationship 138 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 9: with the Central Bank governor. It's in the job description 139 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 9: of the governor to be the person the government blames 140 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 9: it on the under performance and to moan to about 141 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 9: wanting lower interest rates. So that's all just in the 142 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 9: normal playbook. We've even got a bit of that going 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 9: on here in New Zealand, because the Minister of Finance 144 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 9: here has been professing her desire for the Reserve Bank 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 9: to be cut in rates as well for the negative 146 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 9: effects of these trade walk comes through. 147 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 10: So that was all a bit of. 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 9: A relief to markets. And coming after that as well, 149 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 9: there was the talk about potential trade deals and reduced 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 9: tariffs on China as well, and a trade deal with 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 9: India which has actually boost centimated as well. And the 152 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 9: last thing is Elon Musk looks like he's going to 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 9: be spending less time doging and more time teszling tesseling, 154 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 9: which has been a relief to everybody in the markets 155 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 9: as well. 156 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: Exactly, we'll go to America after seven o'clock and talk 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: more about that. Now pmis around the world. Has the 158 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: trade or the tariff issue had yet or not? 159 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 9: Well, not really, Mike. I mean we saw actually some 160 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 9: stronger pmis around world, particularly in Asia. Last night Australia 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 9: and yesterday Australia's PMI went up above fifty and having 162 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 9: expansion for the fourth consecutive month. The New order's component 163 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 9: was the strongest since November twenty twenty two. Similarly, Japan's 164 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 9: composite PMI was above the fifty expansion level. New Order 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 9: is rising for the sixth consecutive month, and again also 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 9: quite positive in the Indian pmis as. 167 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 11: Well in the UK Ones Europe a bit more. 168 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 9: Mixed there, but the issue there seems to be more 169 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 9: with the services sector as opposed to necessarily the manufacturing sector, 170 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 9: which should be most impeded by tariffs. 171 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay, and then we come to Treasury. Are they but 172 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: do what's going on with that update? 173 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 9: Well, they are very negative. It tended to be a 174 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 9: bit negative, really, I suppose, but they gave the their 175 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 9: semi week two weekly update, and it's interesting because it 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 9: presumably reflects the scenario that's been presented to the Ministry 177 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 9: wor she prepares the budget next month. It's pretty grim 178 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 9: reading the Treasury basically a cherry picked probably some of 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 9: the more negative indicators that we've seen in the last 180 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 9: month or so, and then most making the point that 181 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 9: they think the recovery is disappointing. So they're pointing out, 182 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 9: for example, the drop back and consumer spending in the 183 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 9: PSI in March. They reckon that the rise in house 184 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 9: prices are still weak compared to year ago levels, and interestingly, 185 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 9: they even cast dispersions on the strength of the migration 186 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 9: data that we've been picking up for a few months now. 187 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 9: They don't think it's right, but we disagree. Actually, like 188 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 9: we've been looking into this and we've had to increase 189 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 9: our population growth forecast reflecting what really does look like 190 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 9: a bottoming of net migration at a higher level, where 191 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 9: arrivals of foreigners have been increasing, departures stabilizing. The minister, though, 192 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 9: was on the tapes talking about in this context, there's 193 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 9: going to be tough choices for making the budget setting 194 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 9: people up. I think that there will be some cuts 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 9: in areas to make room for spending initiatives. And reality 196 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 9: is that given that treasury outlook, she's probably looking at 197 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 9: a weaker revenue outlook than she had before and as 198 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 9: a result of some rispare that she has to delay 199 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 9: reaching a primary surplace in twenty twenty seven, twenty eight. 200 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 9: She says she's going to make it. She says she's 201 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 9: going to keep type policy in this budget. I kind 202 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 9: of think there's potentially a bit optimistic to try to 203 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 9: do that if they're really going to have a week 204 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 9: a week global economy next year. Certainly the IMF research 205 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 9: will tell you should really wait to consolidate the budget 206 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 9: when the economy is a bit more on the up 207 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 9: than make hayward. 208 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: The sun shining all right, man, what are the numbers? 209 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 12: Dell at one. 210 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 9: Point four percent thirty nine seven thirty three s and 211 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 9: P five hundred is up two percent five three nine six. 212 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 9: There's that's up three percent sixteen eight one three foot 213 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 9: See is up point nine percent eighty four oh three 214 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 9: NICKI nick was up one point nine percent thirty four 215 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 9: eight six eight seeing High Composite was down small point 216 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 9: one percent three two nine six. The Australian ASX is 217 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 9: up one point three percent seven nine to two. Oh 218 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 9: our exchange up one percent eleven nine five six Qus 219 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 9: sixty cents on the nose again unchanged. Kwy Ossie ninety 220 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 9: four percent just up point two percent, not ninety four cent. Sorry, 221 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 9: k e uo fifty three cents up point three percent, 222 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 9: KWI Stirling point up point three also point four five, 223 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 9: k n eighty four point four five, n up point 224 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 9: seven percent, Gold down three point six percent three two 225 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 9: nine six, and oil down two two point four percent 226 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 9: at sixty five eighty four. 227 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, a good long weekend. Love you work, Kelly, you 228 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: cold Westpac Chief Economists Pasket something interesting to buy. It's 229 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: going to auction Southeby's. They announced it on Shakespeare's four 230 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty first birthday. 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He reviews Talk SEVB. 239 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Good, the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio 240 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at B. 241 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: Just to wrap our election coverage, we started the show 242 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: with more than seven million Canadians cast their ballots in 243 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: advanced yesterday. Early voting opened yesterday. That's a record. People 244 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: are keen and there's a poll out this morning. I 245 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: don't know what it means. Elbow's getting increasingly popular. He's 246 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: gone up three percentage points to thirty eight. So when 247 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: your net approval that he's minus one, which isn't great, 248 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: but Dutton, unfortunately in the same pole is now the 249 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: most unpopular opposition leader this century at minus twenty six 250 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: twenty five. 251 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: Trending now with jimis Wells book in Your Flu Vaccination Today. 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Something new from Netflix for you this morning, which is 253 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: just as well given they put the prices up yet again. 254 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: This is a doco called The Liver King untold. It's 255 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: about the bloke who built a supplement empire by devurring 256 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: raw meat on social media. 257 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Never Levy King, Lear King, Lever King Here. I've been 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: working out for the last thirty five years. 259 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: The last fifteen of those years, I've been living an 260 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: ancestral lifestyle. 261 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: White Basketball's when you can work, eat. 262 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Tactics found for us lever and meat. 263 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: I was disgusting. 264 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, very Accesstral business had been growing twelve percent a 265 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 6: quarter every quarter. 266 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: We have videos, hundreds of millions of years travels, travel 267 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: alvels of invisibility. That kind of feeling is a dangerous People. 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 13: Would come to me and say, bro, like, come on, 269 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 13: he's done stereods, and I was saying, now, man, he's not. 270 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: Yes, he is, sorry, buzzkill he is. He denied it 271 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: all of course, because he looks amazing. Unfortunately, email leak 272 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: it revealed he had been spending eleven thousand dollars a 273 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: month on the anoboloics. He's still got six point one 274 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: million followers on TikTok. Approving idiocy attracts a crowd. Anyway, 275 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: That whole documentary on Netflix is out on the thirteenth 276 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: of Mate. Now we'll talk to the Climate Minister shortly. 277 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: Why we're talking to the Climate minister as the Climate 278 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Commission came out and they are wanting to keep the 279 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: prices for the carbon auction. If you haven't followed the 280 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: story of our carbon auction, please do because it's just 281 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: a fascinating insight into complete and uttering competence. So they 282 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: invented the thing called the carbon market. They have four 283 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: auctions a year. People come alo and they buy these 284 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: credits to offset their emissions. Trouble is, no one turns 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: up at these auctions, and part of the problem is 286 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: the pricing. So they've been mucking around with it since 287 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: day one. They're mucking around with it yet again and 288 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: seemingly nothing changes or has it. Anyway, the Minister on 289 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: that shortly. 290 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: Mike host games be insightful, engaging and vital the Mic 291 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News, togs. 292 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Head Beetle, fascinating stats that show you the damage that 293 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: has literally been done in front of our eyes business 294 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: wise around the world as a result of the tariff 295 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: meantime in the States, he doesn't trump, He doesn't appear 296 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: overly worried about the tariffs at the moment, despite the 297 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: fact he blinked yesterday. On his mind today is the 298 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: possibility of what he turns two beautiful poles to display 299 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: some flags. 300 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: We're putting up a beautiful almost one hundred foot tall 301 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: American flag on this side and another one on the 302 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: other side, two flags top of the lines. And they've 303 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: needed flags for two hundred years. It was something I've 304 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: often said, you know, they don't have a flag pole 305 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: per se. So we're putting one right where you saw us, 306 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: and we're putting another one on the other side, on 307 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: top of the mounds. It's going to be a too beautiful. 308 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Form, top of the line, top of the mounds, top 309 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: of the poles. Twenty three minutes away from seven go 310 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: to Rome in a moment with Joe mckenner. Of course, 311 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: Climate News as we heading the long weekend, the Climate 312 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: Change Commission is recommending ETS prices should remain as they 313 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: are emissions trading scheme. Of course, their argument is consistently 314 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: leads to confidency. Their argument is that consistency leads to confidence, which, 315 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: if you follow the carbon market, is exactly what we 316 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: need given up take a auction. Time of course has 317 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: been a shamble as of late. Climate Change Minister Simon 318 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Watsons well us very good morning, morning, Mike, break beyond 319 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: now fewer credits are same price? Do we have a 320 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: winning formula now or not? 321 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 14: Well, look what the Climate Change Commission has said, and 322 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 14: for the first time in a long time, there's actually 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 14: the settings that we put in place last year seemed 324 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 14: to be working. Basically, make no further changes, hand off 325 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 14: the tiller, and you know that's a positive feedback. We're 326 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 14: obtually going to review their report where only got it yesterday, 327 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 14: and make sure we've gone through all the detail. But 328 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 14: the feedback at a headline level is the changes that 329 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 14: we did last year to try and stabilize a market 330 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 14: it was pretty volatile when we came into government eighteen 331 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 14: months ago. Seemed to be doing what it was meant 332 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 14: to do and that's positive for the market. 333 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: What is it meant to do given that none of 334 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: the auctions worked last year on the first option, this 335 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: year didn't work either. 336 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 9: Well. 337 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 14: The reality of in terms of whether auction clears or 338 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 14: not is a demand and supply conversation. We do know 339 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 14: at the moment that there is the market happy in 340 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 14: terms of the amount of supply that they're able to achieve, 341 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 14: but in terms of the actual underpinning settings of the market, 342 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 14: we had government getting involved a lot under the prior 343 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 14: government that was causing a lot of uncertainty and volatility. 344 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 14: We've taken all of that away, and now the Climate 345 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 14: Change Commission is also saying, hey, just keep your hands 346 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 14: off it. It's where it needs to be. 347 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: So, I mean, from a revenue generation point of view, 348 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: you're earning no revenue and you sell no credits, you 349 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: get no revenue. You're happy with that? 350 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, I am happy with that. 351 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 14: At the purpose of the market is not to create 352 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 14: revenue that is a byproduct of it. The purpose of 353 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 14: the market is to reduce emissions and that's what it's 354 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 14: primary purposes and that's what it does. 355 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: And to be fair, the numbers that came out what 356 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: a week, two weeks ago, whatever it was. We are 357 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: still reducing our emissions as a country, aren't we. 358 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 14: Well yeah, yeah, the settings an inventory that came out 359 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 14: only in the last two weeks show that we're on 360 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 14: a downward trajectory. The government has a plan to achieve that, 361 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 14: it's got a clear strategy, and actually we're doing so 362 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 14: without throwing a whole lot of money at the problem 363 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 14: and you know, not massively impacting our economy. And that's 364 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 14: sensible policy, it's pragmatic, and it's also reducing emissions. 365 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: What about the anks the other day that you want 366 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: a lot of planting to go on on public land 367 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: in terms of pine trees, and that offsets carbon emissions 368 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff, and all the anngstes 369 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: have got upset about that. Has that been settled? Is 370 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: that the way the future? And how much reliance is 371 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: they're on trees to solve this problem. 372 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 373 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 14: Look, we've heard loud and clear from farmers that they're 374 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 14: concerned about, you know, part of forestry on productive farmland. 375 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 14: We're bringing in changes this year to restrict pine on 376 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 14: to productive farmland. We're going to place restrictions to that 377 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 14: that doesn't exist today, and that's what this government's going 378 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 14: to do, and that's the sensible thing to do to 379 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 14: protect protect productive farmland. That'll go some way to deal 380 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 14: with the concerns that have been noted. 381 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: But again you know that the. 382 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 14: Last government were forestries in forestries out that was causing 383 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 14: a huge amount of volatility, and forestry is a long 384 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 14: term investment horizon. Business people need certainty and our objective 385 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 14: is to make sure that they know exactly what government 386 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 14: policy is going to do so they can plan for 387 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 14: the future and invest appropriately. 388 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: All right, go well this weekend, simon, what's the climate minister, Mike? 389 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Is an early move on the ETS, Farmer Forester, I 390 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: see risk. The ETS is a heavily regulated market which 391 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: is constantly being manipulated by the government for what is 392 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: essentially an inflationary consumption and tax collected by entrepreneurs, many 393 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: of which are off sure they do not invest back 394 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: into climate initiatives and my experience, they travel yachts, et cetera. 395 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: When I consider the consumers in my small rural town, 396 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: I think the whole thing's insidious and there's no impact 397 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: whatsoever on climate change in terms of the quarterly government actions. 398 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: Their performance is a reflection of the idiocy of the 399 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: whole policy. 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Those numbers are up twenty two percent. 427 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: There's a fifty billion dollar gap now as people coming 428 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: into American Owen's interested people leaving America. They love it. 429 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: United bookings from international passengers from Europe down six percent, 430 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: Canada down nine percent. Delta seeing something similar meantime, as 431 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: far as trades concerned, number of Chinese freight vessels headed 432 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: into ports in La and Long Beach, they are the 433 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: two main ones on the West Coast. They're off a cliff. 434 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: For the weekend in May three, the number of freight 435 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: vessels leaving China is down twenty nine percent week on 436 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: week year iby year, it's down forty four percent. Twelve 437 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: vessels a scheduled to come in this week, down from 438 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: twenty two, so it's twenty two down to twelve. Number 439 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: of containers has dropped from one hundred and twenty thousand 440 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: down to sixty two, so it's real fourteen to two. 441 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind 442 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business in Italy. 443 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: Joe mckinna, very good morning to you. 444 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Good morning Mike. 445 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: What's been like these last couple of days. 446 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 15: Well, it's been crazy and not a lot of sleep. 447 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 15: Incredible scenes at the Vatican. I'm still here right now, 448 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 15: and I can tell you there are thousands of people 449 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 15: lining up to go in and see Pope Francis lying 450 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 15: in state inside Saint Peter's Basilica. Around twenty thousand people 451 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 15: have already been in today, and the Vatican is looking 452 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 15: at keeping that the doors open past midnight tonight because 453 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 15: there are so many people who want to go in 454 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 15: there and have a look. 455 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's a well oiled machine. 456 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 15: Well we're hoping, I mean I live in hope that 457 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 15: it's a well oiled machine. There are some minor things 458 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 15: that need to be worked out, like working out how 459 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 15: he's going to be moved, because his desire is to 460 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 15: be buried at St. Mary Major, the Basilica on the 461 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 15: other side of the city, and tonight the Vaticans said 462 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 15: they're working out the security arrangements. Incredible security arrangements, as 463 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 15: you can imagine, Mike, with President Donald Trump coming in 464 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 15: and the other world leaders. 465 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I'll come back to that in a moment. 466 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: His actual movement, how far I've seen the matt but 467 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: I meant at the past they'll go and the rides. 468 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: How long would that take? 469 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 15: Only a few kilometers, I think four or five kilometers, 470 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 15: they said tonight he will be moving very slowly to 471 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 15: give people an opportunity to really farewell him. So I 472 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 15: would expect the streets of Rome to be lined with 473 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 15: thousands of people as his body has moved from the 474 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 15: basilica here at Saint Peter's across the other side of town. 475 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm reading one of the British papers, eight our cues. 476 00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: Would that be fair? 477 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 15: Someone said to me tonight four hours and they said 478 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 15: it was worth every minute. It changed their lives seeing 479 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 15: the pope lying in state, and the scenes inside the 480 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 15: basilica are also very dramatic because it looks so. 481 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 5: Beautiful in there. 482 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does not to diminish what's going on, of course, 483 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: but weather wise it's worked out, okay, hasn't it? I 484 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: mean the weather I's and follows. I mean, it's not 485 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: the middle winter in other words. 486 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 15: No, it's quite quite beautiful spring weather. We've got some 487 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 15: signs of rain tomorrow. It's chili at night, your trench 488 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 15: code at night. But you can hear people around me 489 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 15: just lining up. The cues are stretching down via de 490 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 15: la Conca, Chili in front of the Basilica. 491 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: Now wow, So as regards Trump and Macron and Prince 492 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: William and or how they locked the place. 493 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 15: Down, Yeah, I mean, I've never seen the sort of 494 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 15: security measures they're talking about. Dog squads are already in action. 495 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 15: They're going to put police on the river, sharps on 496 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 15: the buildings, which we have seen before. But incidentally, they're 497 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 15: going to have firefighters that specialize in terrorism, nuclear attacks, 498 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 15: and chemical warfare. So that tells you the level of 499 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 15: security that's going on. 500 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: And what does that mean to the average person in Rome? 501 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: You just you stay at home. You can't get it, 502 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: You're going nowhere. 503 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 15: Well, the funny thing is this week using holiday week 504 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 15: here because we've had Easter Monday, which is a huge 505 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 15: holiday in Italy, and then April twenty five is also 506 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 15: the day when they remember Liberation Day World War Two, 507 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 15: so it's really a holiday week and many locals are 508 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 15: out of town, but we expect them to come back 509 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 15: at the end of the week and around two hundred 510 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 15: and fifty thousand are expected for the funeral. 511 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: And with all due reverence once again to the event, 512 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: given who you have in town. Is business going to 513 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: be talked about? Are we talking tariffs doing deals? 514 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 15: Well, diplomats have told me off the record they don't 515 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 15: think there's going to be much time for that. But 516 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 15: I think it's really an interesting juxtaposition, isn't it. We're 517 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 15: going to have here, We're going to have him meeting 518 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 15: once again with Italian Prime Minister Maloney, Ursula Vonderline from 519 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 15: the European Commission's going to be here, mccron, So will 520 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 15: they have time to talk, Well, that's hard to say, 521 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 15: but I think most of the leaders will be in 522 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 15: and out. But it's certainly an interesting juxtaposition, isn't it. 523 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't go well, Joe, I appreciate you coverage. Joe McKenna, 524 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: who was in Saint Peter's Square in Rome on a 525 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: spring evening. As we speak, ten away from seven. 526 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: She's a make asking breakfast with a Vida retirement. Communities 527 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: news togs had been. 528 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: Have you follow this? We was Sarah Palin's been in 529 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: court and she lost yet again. It was a court 530 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: casemen going on for several years. She was suing the 531 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: New York Times. It was a thing called Times v. Sullivan. 532 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: Well that's what they're arguing on. It was a landmark 533 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty four ruling that protected the media from defamation 534 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: lawsuits by public figures, and a number of people were 535 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: behind Palin thinking if she could win this, then it's 536 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: all go for the media, but she lost twice. As 537 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: it turns out. Perhaps more interesting is my fascination with 538 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: this week's theft fro of Christy Nomes Gucci bag. So 539 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: she last Sunday was at the Capitol Burger which is 540 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: a restaurant, and she had her bag and it was 541 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: under her chair and it got nicked by a bloke who, 542 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: as it turns out, now the security This is the 543 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: update the security foot he chose. A guy saw it, 544 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: sat next to her at the table next to her, 545 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: took his foot slid it under her chair, slid the 546 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: bag over to his chair, grabbed the bag and walked out. 547 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: Now in the bag, and this was my fascination. Was 548 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: her driver's license, not unusual, wallet medication not unusual, apartment keys, 549 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 2: but she was carrying a passport, which seemed a weird 550 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: thing to carry in your bag. She had her DHS 551 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: access badge. She had a makeup bag, not unusual, some 552 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: blank checks and three thousand dollars in cash. Three thousand 553 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: dollars in cash in a passport. How weird is that? 554 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 2: I thought that's weird, and some of you agreed with me. Anyway, 555 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: what was even weirder was the security service which surrounds her. 556 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: Was at the table dining with her while the guy 557 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: at the next table stuck his foot under a chair 558 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: and nick to Gucci back. Still haven't solved the crime. 559 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven. 560 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: The ins are the ouse. It's the bearz with business favor. 561 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the next level. 562 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: I've got cheese news the in house product at the supermarket. 563 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: You know the supermarket labels. They're putting pressure on the 564 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: local cheesemakers, PAMs and value and all that sort of stuff. 565 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: They now command fourteen and a half percent of the 566 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: prepackaged grocery market now at four context that globally speaking, 567 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: is not a huge number, fourteen and a half percent, 568 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: but it is growing fast and so a lot of 569 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: cheesemakers are worried. Nielsen data own brand cheese now holds 570 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: twenty nine point one percent of the total grocery cheese market, 571 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: which is up eighteen percent year on year. Mainland brands 572 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: at at twenty percent, which is down a smidge. Specialty 573 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: cheese brands from local producers hold less than one percent each, 574 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: so tiny part of the market. Why Marta Cheese has 575 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: dropped its Bre and Canon Beer alliance and we didn't 576 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: cover this on the program. We should have that dropped 577 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: the Bre and the Canon Beer a line solely focusing 578 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: on Hallumi. The shift of the home brand as pretty 579 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: tough if you're a specialty cheese maker. This is where 580 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: the Commerce Commission comes in. They're reviewing the impact of 581 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: private labels through some ongoing investigations. One submission described the 582 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: trend as scary, harmful to suppliers. Food Stuffs and Woolworths 583 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: argue against more regulation. They say, you know, let the 584 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: market be the market, the grocery Commissioner, our favorite PM 585 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: and Herdon who does god knows what apart from periodically 586 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: put out a press release. Private label is just another 587 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: brand owned by the Supermarket's consumers still want low cost options, 588 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: yes they do. So he's acknowledged concerns from the suppliers 589 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: about fair access and is weighing the benefits of private 590 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: labels against potential market dominate. So it's an interesting thing, 591 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: isn't it. 592 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 5: If you're a. 593 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: Supermarket and you want to whack a bit of cheddar 594 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: and a bit of plastic can go. There's my home 595 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: brand and somebody wants to buy it. Who is the 596 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: government or the grocery commissioner or commerce commission to stop that? 597 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: And if you're a really good local producer, a boutique producer, 598 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: a niche producer, surely I could argue on your behalf 599 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: that the quality of what you do is so superior 600 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: to your home brand crap you should be able to 601 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: pitch yourself nicely into the marketplace and make some very 602 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: good money. Or am I delusional in my view? Anyway? 603 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure p Year's onto it the way only per 604 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: can be. In his food Commissioner type way. David Seymore's 605 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: a racking up the early childhood sector. 606 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him shortly, News, opinion and everything in between. 607 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: The mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover, the LA 608 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and. 609 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: Use togstead be seven past seven to the early childhood 610 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: sectors in for a bit of common sense change. There 611 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: are ninety eight rules apparently in regulations around running any 612 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: given center. About twenty percent of those are going to 613 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: go things like keeping the classroom temperature at eighteen degrees, 614 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: having hygienic facilities to clean up paint, holding humanization records 615 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: for every child. The regulation Minister David Seymore's in charge 616 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: of it and he's with us very good morning. 617 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 16: Good morning. 618 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: Devil is in the detail. Though the angst seems to 619 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: be coming around the qualifications for teachers. You say, what. 620 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 16: Not going to change the qualifications overall? But I think 621 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 16: there's a worthwhile question. Do you want to have somebody 622 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 16: who might have a PhD in architecture comes in, does 623 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 16: a short course and go straight to the top of 624 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 16: the pay scale, or do you think that the people 625 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 16: who run the center and know the quality of the 626 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 16: people in front of them should have more flexibility about 627 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 16: how much they pay them. Over the next year, these 628 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 16: various changes will be rolled out and towards at the 629 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 16: end of this year, we'll look at that. But if 630 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 16: people say, oh, there's going to be no qualifications, it's 631 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 16: all deregulated and you won't know what you're getting. Actually 632 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 16: it's the opposite of that. We've got a system that 633 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 16: is overly complicated. People don't know what they get and 634 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 16: people that run their centers spend too much time on 635 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 16: red tape instead of actually focusing on the safety and 636 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 16: education of children and the choices. 637 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 14: That parents have. 638 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: Is this union's protecting their patch. 639 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: Ye. 640 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 16: I mean, there's no question that there's been a campaign 641 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 16: by the NZEI, the primary teachers union, and I don't 642 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 16: mean the teachers by the way, it's the union organizers 643 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 16: who've done all sorts of fear mangering about this review 644 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 16: before the government's even released its decisions. But the truth is, 645 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 16: if you go and visit people in early childhood centers 646 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 16: as I do, they've got multiple regulators. They've got the 647 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 16: ro them, the MRH, the MPI, the local council, all 648 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 16: trying to enforce rules without any clarity. And what we're 649 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 16: going to do. First of all, we're going to actually 650 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 16: pass some law saying this is the purpose of regulating 651 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 16: it's child safety number one, children's education number two, parental 652 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 16: choice number three, and then not putting in place any 653 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 16: more rules than are necessary to achieve those objectives. We're 654 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 16: going to take a look at the ninety eight rules. 655 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 16: We've got a draft of what that will look like. 656 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 16: Around three quarters of them will either be gone changed 657 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 16: or or turned into guidance rather than we will shut 658 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 16: you down in order that the regulator can look at 659 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 16: the things that actually affect child safety and child education. 660 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 16: And more importantly, that the people running the centers, you know, 661 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 16: four thousand, many of them small businesses, assaults of the earth, 662 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 16: people who are preparing the next generation for when they 663 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 16: take over running this country. They will have some more 664 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 16: certainty about what they can do, what they can't do, 665 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 16: and who to call if there's a dispute. 666 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: More importantly, I've got this text, Mike asked David, who 667 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: caught the biggest snapper on the Bay of Islands East 668 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: to sunday him or his fiance. What's the answer. 669 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 16: Alex's got a five point two kilogram Mine was I 670 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 16: just want to say definitely legal. However, it was about 671 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 16: half a meter from the lip to the V of 672 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 16: the tale, so she definitely won that one, and I 673 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 16: obviously don't dispute it. 674 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: Good stuff and nice to talk to you. David Seymore, 675 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: the Regulation Minister and King Fisherman ten minutes past seven 676 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: basket who has the trump st blink is the white 677 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: flag up. His lightest approach to China and tariffs appears 678 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: to be that he's going to back down and significantly. 679 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: Currently the tariffs one hundred and forty five percent of 680 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: that level. Realistically it's an ambigo. The market, of course, 681 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: once they heard that news yesterday got a bit fizzed up. 682 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: Doug Holseeken is a former advisor to Senator John mccainey's 683 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: with the American Action for him these days. He's with us. 684 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, and good morning to you as well, before 685 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: we deal with the specifics. What's your sense of this 686 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: whole tariff thing so far? 687 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 11: Well, I think it's been just a real problem for 688 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 11: the US and the global economy in general. It was 689 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 11: rolled out poorly, it's all thought out, and I think 690 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 11: everybody involved is now looking for a way to gracefully 691 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 11: exit from some of these proposals. 692 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: Would you say Trump has blinked in the last twenty 693 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: four hours. Is this what the comments about China's really about. 694 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 11: I think it's absolutely true that the president never he 695 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 11: made a mistake, but he does respond to pressure, and 696 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 11: we've see and responded to that pressure in the past week. 697 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: So what happens now? Do you think? 698 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 11: I think that the reciprocal tariffs go away. I think 699 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 11: they were still thought out, very damaging, and will easily 700 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 11: exit under the guise of negotiations with each country or 701 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 11: something like that. I think we'll continue to see the 702 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,479 Speaker 11: products the steel, aluminum, autos and others steady, so levy. 703 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 11: I don't know the fate of the ten percent universal tariff. 704 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 11: It's an unwise idea. He would have to withdraw it 705 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 11: because it's universal, and that's the hardest of my view. 706 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 11: And China, China, you know, they have no reason to 707 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 11: come to the table, and he keeps suspecting g to 708 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 11: bend the need of him. I think that's unlikely. So 709 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 11: wiser heads are going to have to serve as intermediaries, 710 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 11: get both sides to start talking. 711 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: If what you say is correct, and the ps to 712 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: be because we view this from a you know, free 713 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: trite leans at the bottom of the world in New 714 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: Zealand as free trite is. What we've never been able 715 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: to understand is how he couldn't order his administration, couldn't 716 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: see this, None of it made sins. How did it 717 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 2: make sense in his head? 718 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 11: That's the question I can't answer. I'm not qualified to 719 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 11: diagnose mister Trump's thinking thought processes. The one thing that 720 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 11: puzzles everyone, It puzzles you, and puzzles many puzzles people 721 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 11: around the world is he does things that do not 722 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 11: appear to be in his self interest. This is not 723 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 11: in his self interest. It's damaging the uist economy. I 724 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 11: believe we will enter a recession if he doesn't quickly 725 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 11: back off these tariffs. And no president wants to preside 726 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 11: over rising unemployments and a failure to control inflation, and 727 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 11: that's what he would have. 728 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: How much political capital do you think he's spent on this? 729 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 11: I think he has worn out his welcome internationally quickly, 730 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 11: and that seems like a bad first step. He needs 731 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 11: help for his domestic agenda in the US Congress, and 732 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 11: nobody there is vocal about it, but they are quite 733 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 11: frustrated by the fact that they're, you know, basing the 734 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 11: bossiblity of running for reelection in a bad economy. And 735 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 11: that's what no I liketed a legislator wants to do that. 736 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: All right, Doug, you have a good weekend. Appreciate it. 737 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 2: Doug Holtziken, who's American Action For and former advisor to 738 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: John McCain fourteen past seven. Tasklike thank goodness for the 739 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: common sense of David Seymour or Mike. We owned an 740 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: e see center. David's got its spot on the pay 741 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 2: parity scales or a mindfield, and the changes look to 742 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: be practical and reward those that do education specific qualifications. Well, Mike, 743 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: why don't you raise the artic contempt to party Mari 744 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: has shine by not personally attending their second chart to 745 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: appear before the privilegious committee. Bob, I don't raise that 746 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: mainly because I don't as I've seen this before on 747 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: the program. I don't take them seriously. They're not part 748 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: of the system, they don't want to be part of 749 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: the system. I don't see them as proper players in 750 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: the political game, and therefore I expect nothing more or 751 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: less of than Therefore, I largely ignore them. Fourteen past. 752 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 753 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 754 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: At B got a new regime coming from the banks 755 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: regards scamming. So beemen hit by scammers and there's a 756 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: lot of us. Of course, we'll get some detail on 757 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: that for you shortly. Manytime. It's seventeen past seven. Good 758 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: news for a bunch of health graduates. So as part 759 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: of the bonding scheme, we've got nine hundred of them 760 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: getting anywhere between fourteen thousand and fifty thousand dollars depending 761 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 2: on what the job is. We're talking nurses, midwives, anesthetic texts, 762 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: rural GPS, et cetera. Anyway, Nurses Society National Director David 763 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 2: Wills is with us. David, very good morning. 764 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 17: To you, Kierra. 765 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: Broadly speaking, does bonding work. 766 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 17: Well, that opening debate, I mean, it's never clear whether 767 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 17: bonding works or not. There is some evidence that with 768 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 17: this scheme retention rates are improved, but to some extent 769 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 17: it may well have been that people who enter it. 770 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 17: Because it's a voluntary scheme, we had every intention of 771 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 17: remaining any how. But that said, this expansion is welcome. 772 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 17: It for no other reason that it's going to boost 773 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 17: employment opportunities for new graduates because at the moment there's 774 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 17: not sufficient funding available to with tight budgets for Tafarta 775 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 17: or to hire all the new graduates that would like 776 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 17: to hire and should hire. So this scheme gives a 777 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 17: boost to the hiring of new graduates. So in that 778 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 17: sense it's welcome. And of course it is designed to 779 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 17: get people into areas that are hard to fill, and 780 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 17: if it does that, they're those areas will welcome it. 781 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: When you say areas, do we talk more about the 782 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 2: jobs or more about the locations of the job. 783 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 17: It's a bit of both. The scheme because it's an 784 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 17: expansion of an existing scheme and in the past it's 785 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 17: focused on filling some clinical areas which are harder to 786 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 17: get people into and arguably stay in, and that's been 787 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 17: primary every care, age care. 788 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 16: And such like. 789 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 17: But it is also designed to help historically and ongoing 790 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 17: with fulling vacancy in certain rural areas and other areas 791 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 17: of the country where it's proven to be more difficult. 792 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 17: So it's designed to do both. 793 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting insight, all right, David, appreciate it very David Wills, 794 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: who's the Nurse's Society National director. I don't know where 795 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: the bonding works. If I mean, my daughter's a medical student, 796 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: says I've told you a number of times before. Much 797 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 2: as far as I know, she's staying in the country. 798 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: So if she happens to be in the specialist area 799 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: where they go, hey, guess what you get. You get 800 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. She was staying anyway, so that's a 801 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: bonus for her and good luck to her. But does 802 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: it solve a problem given she wasn't going overseas? And 803 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: would you for what fourteen grand v fifty what would 804 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: it take for you to go? I'll probably go overseas 805 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: as a nurse. I'll hold on. Give me twenty seven, 806 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 2: give me thirty two, give me forty two, and I'll stay. 807 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: And how long does that last? Interesting? 808 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 11: Gay? 809 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, bank scamming still to come. And this I'm trying 810 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: to get my head around it. I don't know whether 811 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 2: it's a winter or not. But Cricket's got this idea 812 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: that if they invest in a US Major League Cricket tournament, 813 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 2: thus making expertise from New zealand Ie management and players 814 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: available to that tournament in America and still available for 815 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: international selection here that's going to somehow solve the problem 816 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: of players wandering off to other leagues around the world. 817 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: Is we'll look at that as well. Seven twenty. 818 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 819 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: by News talksp. 820 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: Whether you're looking to buy a home, invest in your 821 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: hard earned money, and want an established bank with solid 822 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: foundations committed to doing the best with the people who 823 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: bank with them, then SBS Bank might be something you 824 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: want to have a look at. They've been around for 825 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five years, routes firmly planted in 826 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: Kiwi soil. SBS North Irelanders just starting to learn about 827 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 2: SBS not a moment too soon, because the Southerners know 828 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 2: and love them, have done for decades. SBS is owned 829 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: by its members. They proudly keep their profits here in 830 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,479 Speaker 2: the country, so when you bank with them, basically helping 831 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: grow newsand who doesn't want to do that. Next to 832 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 2: mention is that they are very good at what they 833 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 2: do because their Ken Stars Bank of the Year for 834 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 2: First Home Buyers twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty four 835 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: helping New Zealand's newest endangered species Kiwi trying to buy 836 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 2: their first home. They haven't forgotten the investors don't worry 837 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: about that highly competitive rates for investments. They've got you covered. 838 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: So if you're in the market for a home loan, 839 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: or you've got money you want to invest for some 840 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: great returns, or maybe you just want to move to 841 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: a bank with a bitter heart. SBS bank is where 842 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 2: you're searchings Keven twenty four. Time now to mark the week, 843 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 2: little piece of news and current events. It's more exciting 844 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 2: than a heavy thunderstorm alert on a day without thunderstorms. 845 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: Meteorological paranoia too, between the met Service and the media. 846 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: You would have thought Noah and his large ship were 847 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: going to be needed, and yet power supply free. 848 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 15: See. 849 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: I think that's the real story, not the weather. The 850 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 2: weather wasn't that bad, but the infrastructure couldn't cope, and 851 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 2: when it couldn't cope, neither could those in charge of it. 852 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 2: Teachers sex God bless them that it's hardly a surprise 853 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: when you see a drop in numbers, doesn't mean really, 854 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: would you want to be a teacher? Be honest, would 855 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 2: you want to be a teacher? RFK said Warrior from 856 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: America's children are Fjjan announcing the end of food dies. 857 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 2: Not a minute too soon. For all this nuttiness of 858 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: which there is much, this stuff actually makes sense and 859 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: will change the world. Selwyn eight Boom Region, Rolliston. We 860 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: are jelly Easter rules three. See I'm not sure what's 861 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: worse the shambles they have become or the annual tedious 862 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 2: debate about changing them even though we never change them. 863 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: Women and Men New Zealand first styles four. This has 864 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: got bandwagon written all over it. Posser Brothers of Levin 865 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: eight from the hawksby Hosking household their eggs as in 866 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 2: their Easter eggs, they are the best in the country. 867 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 2: Levin actually seven See we had gluten three crackers also 868 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 2: from Levin. So what's going on Levin? Anyway? Hegseth four. 869 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: If this is what the media does in their tro 870 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: slash and burn people not. 871 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 2: Gonna work with me, looks increasingly like a doofus, And 872 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he wasn't do for us to start with. 873 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: Gnome four passport three grand in cash and a back 874 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 2: on a Sunday night at burger joint. And she's actually 875 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: in charge of stuff, mind you, her security detail too, 876 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: they were at the table with her as the bloke 877 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: nicked it from right under them, I mean literally right 878 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: under them. Canada seven, who's election going right now? Early 879 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: voting at records massive swing and the polls could be 880 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: one to remember. Exports eight good news story of the 881 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 2: week in March This country hit it out of the 882 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 2: park and that is what we need more of in 883 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: this country. And that is a week something else we 884 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: need more of. Copies on the website and thirty six 885 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: of these were handed out by the way Queenstown Airport 886 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: for the virgin passengers who waited for the plane that 887 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: never came. Earlier reports actually suggest marking the week so 888 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: much fun. Most people said, what plane? Who needs a plane? 889 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: Lasking Mike, would be nice to know this policy around 890 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 2: the bank scam is going to be backdated? No, and 891 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 2: who is responsible for the decision of the banking onwardsman 892 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 2: is toothless and has too many links with the banks. Well, 893 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: the answer is the government pressure has led to this 894 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: will tell you more about it. But as for backdating, 895 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: don't be silly. Of course is not backdated, Mike. What 896 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 2: you seem to neglect is the renegades at the TPM 897 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 2: could be kingmakers in the left and cover. No, I 898 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: don't neglect that day. This is my point. My point 899 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: is their behavior places pressure on the Labor Party. The 900 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: Labor Party because of that potential that you highlight, are 901 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 2: going to have to explain themselves. And this is why 902 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: you saw hippins out yesterday saying, oh, look, I hope 903 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: they turn up. I hope they turn up. And because 904 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: he has no control over them, at some point he's 905 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 2: going to have to take a stand and he's going 906 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: to have to rule them out because if he doesn't 907 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: rule them out, all hell's going to break loose and 908 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people who would vote for the 909 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 2: Labour Party are going to say, can I really afford 910 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: to take the risk? You see, I've thought ahead of 911 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 2: your Dave. I I've got it COVID, don't worry about 912 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: it now. The scammers and the cricket and the next 913 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 2: half hour of the Myke Hosking Breakfast, You're a News Talks. 914 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: They'd be where the news is. 915 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: Next in New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, 916 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: the my Casking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, You're low 917 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: got experts across residential commercial and Rural News todsad be Mike. 918 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: As you said, Chip, he's going to have to rule 919 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 2: out TMP. He's very vocal telling National to rule out 920 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. First. Will he follow his own advice? Well, 921 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: he's going to have to eventually because people are going 922 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 2: to be asking him the question so incessantly. He'll be 923 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: driven nuts in the election campaign him next to year. Mike, 924 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: what channel is showing the snooker? Good question. I'll come 925 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: back with the answer in the moment, Mike, what are 926 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 2: those Easter eggs? Need to know? Potter Brothers never heard 927 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: of them. Turned up at our house. They came and 928 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 2: I don't know whether they make a whole range of 929 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 2: these eggs. I'm assuming they do, but they came in 930 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 2: a packet of four eggs. It's a slim long packet 931 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 2: of four eggs. And you've got to like the eggs 932 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 2: in terms of chewy heart dark chocolate very important. It's 933 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: genuine dark chocolate, not the light crap chocolate. It's the 934 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: dark chocolate. So there's a crunch to it. You've got 935 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 2: to put them in the fridge. You'd break them in 936 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: half because they're that traditional shape of egg that you 937 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 2: can have the whole one, but that's greedy. You twist 938 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: and then you break them in half, so actually eight 939 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: half eggs, but inside very chewy, absolutely beautiful, and they've 940 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: got that hand crafted, handmade, good quality vibe about them 941 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 2: that I think most of us like. Twenty two minutes 942 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: away from eight right scram victim is soon going to 943 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: be able to be reiversed by their bank if the 944 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 2: bank is found to be at fault for failing to 945 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: adequately warn and protect their customers. Payments of up to 946 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: half a million could be made, and the announcement comes 947 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: following the government pressure urging banks to do better. The 948 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: New Zealand Banking Association boss Roger Beaumont is what this, Roger, 949 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 2: very good morning to you. 950 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 18: Oh good morning Mike, and good on you for working 951 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 18: the three day week. 952 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 2: Not at all. I try my best, and good on you. 953 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're working and not coming in on an 954 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: a slash. Well now were you? Were you dragged to 955 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: this kicking and screaming? 956 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 15: Oh not at all. 957 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 18: Banks had been dealing with this issue for some time 958 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 18: before the Minister became involved. This is a global issue 959 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 18: that's playing out in every jurisdiction around the world and 960 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 18: our bank chief executives were working at quite some pace 961 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 18: to try and get in front of the issue before 962 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 18: the government engagement. 963 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 2: Okay, the level of scamming and its sophistication, How bigin 964 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 2: issue is it? 965 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 18: Oh, it's massive and it's very hard to put a 966 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 18: dollar value on it. And the figures that effect New 967 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 18: Zealanders range in everything from two hundred million to two billion. 968 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 18: And the reason it's such a broad range is because 969 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 18: of underreporting. People are pretty embarrassed if they've been scammed 970 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 18: and so they tend not to report it in a 971 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 18: lot of cases. 972 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 2: Well, in some of the rules and regulations you're putting 973 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: forward to some of the help you're offering, you talk 974 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 2: about high risk investments. What's a high risk investment? Is 975 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: that a scam or is that just choice? 976 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 18: Well, yes, it's a really good point. What we need 977 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 18: to do and what we will do with these new 978 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 18: measures is in that example, we will flag if someone 979 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 18: is making an investment that that might be a high 980 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 18: risk transaction or are you sure that your investment inverted 981 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 18: commas is a safe one? And so it's a matter 982 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 18: of taking the giving the custom of the opportunity to 983 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 18: have a think about whether they are doing the right 984 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 18: thing in that moment when they're about to authorize a payment. 985 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 2: Is this going to be overbearing for a person like 986 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: me who really doesn't want you in my life anyway? 987 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 2: And I kind of know what I'm doing, and I'll 988 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 2: back myself, And am I just going to get endless 989 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 2: numbers of alerts and emails from you going second guessing me? 990 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 18: Hopefully not, because hopefully our banks will be able to 991 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 18: tailor the sorts of flags and warnings that you get 992 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 18: based on your transactional history. Now, it might be quite 993 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 18: common for you to make a payment over ten thousand dollars, 994 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 18: whereas for other people it might be very rare for 995 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 18: them to make a payment over ten thousand dollars, And 996 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 18: so that will be taken into account in the warnings 997 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 18: that you're given. Yeah, we're really aware that it's a 998 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 18: critical that these warnings and these flags don't become wallpaper 999 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 18: so that you just ignore them. 1000 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 12: And move on. 1001 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: The gross negligence bar that they have in the UK, 1002 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 2: is that going to open you, guys up to people 1003 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 2: being agreed, in other words, you've been grossly negligent, you 1004 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 2: don't pay anything. Therefore, people feel like they've been scammed 1005 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 2: themselves and dealing with you. 1006 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 18: Well, what we're saying is customers need to take reasonable care. 1007 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 18: So that means if you're making if you're making a 1008 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 18: payment and for example, you're doing a confirmation of payee 1009 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 18: where you're matching the account name with the account number, 1010 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 18: if that comes back and says that this does not match, 1011 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 18: but that you then proceed to still make that payment, 1012 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,439 Speaker 18: well that's on you because you haven't taken reasonable care 1013 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 18: about that payment all honesty. 1014 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 2: Roger, how much of scamming is basically people just being 1015 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 2: gullible or greedy or thick. 1016 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 18: Well, look, it's really hard because what scammers do is 1017 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 18: to prey on your emotion and vulnerability, and whether you're lonely, 1018 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 18: or whether you're looking for a new job, or whether 1019 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 18: you're just looking for hope, scammers will play on that 1020 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 18: emotion and it's very easy to get caught up on that. 1021 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: But that's not your problem though, it's. 1022 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 18: Correct, that's correct, it's not our problem. But what we're 1023 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 18: doing is trying to put safeguards into place that will 1024 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 18: reduce the chances of that happen. And people need to 1025 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 18: just sometimes take a sect to check and think about 1026 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 18: what they're doing. 1027 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 2: All right, good luck with it, appreciate it. Roger Beaumont, 1028 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 2: that's in by November. By the way, the New Zealand 1029 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: Banking Association CEO, eighteen minutes away from seven scares. His 1030 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 2: observation was interesting, wasn't it. Thanks for working the three 1031 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 2: day week. As far as I'm concerned on the media 1032 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: at the moment, does anyone working a regular three day week? 1033 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: Is anybody here? I was listening to the radio yesterday's 1034 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 2: driving into town, and it's interesting because because Tyler and 1035 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 2: what's his name went on and I'm thinking, well, they're 1036 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,959 Speaker 2: on holiday as well. But then in town, Town seemed 1037 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: normal to me, So everyone can't have been on holiday 1038 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 2: because town. When I go home in the morning, Town 1039 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: seems reasonably noise. So I don't know what's going on. 1040 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: I can't work out whether everyone's on holiday or not. Mike, 1041 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,280 Speaker 2: what channel is the snooker on? Answered? No channel, No channel, 1042 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 2: Because I haven't got back to me. They said they 1043 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 2: get back to me in a couple of days. They 1044 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 2: said that on today's Thursday. I said, I think on 1045 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 2: Tuesday they're working hard to get the crucible snooker onto 1046 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 2: one of the Sky channels by the quarter finals periods, 1047 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 2: so that's still a couple of day a number of 1048 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 2: days away because they've only just they're still completing the 1049 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 2: first round heading into the second round, and so by 1050 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 2: the quarter final times, they've still got a couple of 1051 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 2: days at play. But there is no channel. I watch 1052 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 2: it on YouTube. It pops up on YouTube, and can 1053 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 2: I just say, and I know I bang on about snooker, 1054 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 2: but I don't care. So I'm watching overnight Ronnie O'Sullivan, 1055 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 2: who's back at the Crucible for about the thirty third time, 1056 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 2: the greatest player in the history of snooker, and he's 1057 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 2: playing Ali Carter thrashes him, absolutely canes him. And the 1058 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 2: thing about it was no one knew how Ronnie was 1059 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 2: going to play because he's had his mental issues, ongoing 1060 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: health issues, and he was maybe going to play, maybe 1061 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 2: he's going to play, maybe he's going to turn up, 1062 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: maybe he's going to pull out. Anyway, so Elie Carter 1063 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 2: a difficult draw. They've got a bit of history. So 1064 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 2: he turns up and in the first session, which was yesterday, 1065 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 2: he broke at the session five four up. You think, 1066 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 2: oh yeah, reasonably close. Game comes back today kills him, 1067 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 2: absolutely kills him, ends up ten to four, wipes the 1068 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 2: table with him. And to watch a genius at work, 1069 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: and that's the only word you can use with Roney O'Sullivan. 1070 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: To watch your guy play the way he plays. And 1071 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 2: this is applicable no matter what sport you follow. It's 1072 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 2: the great great golf swings, it's the great players in 1073 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 2: the EPL. To watch your genius at work is an honor. 1074 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 2: And he won't be around for a lot longer. I 1075 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: suspect he's on the verge of retiring. And soak it 1076 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 2: up while it lasts. And that is why it is 1077 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 2: such a broadcasting crime for Sky not to be running 1078 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 2: one of the great sporting events of the year. Don't 1079 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 2: run all the snooker if you don't want to, but 1080 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: run the best of the snooker. And the best of 1081 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 2: the snooker is on right now sixteen to two. 1082 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1083 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 1084 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: At b thirteen to eight. Download a VP and it's 1085 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 2: free in the UK. But yeah, I know, look, I 1086 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: know you can VP and stuff. I know you can 1087 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 2: get around it. I know if you look at I 1088 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 2: watch most of the snooker on YouTube. That's not the point. 1089 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 2: My point is that guy I want to be I'm 1090 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 2: assuming a good corporate citizen, skin. I want to provide 1091 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 2: punters who pay them good money, a variety of services, 1092 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 2: a comprehensive suite of sports that people can enjoy. I 1093 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: would have thought it behooves them to do the right thing. 1094 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 2: It's my point. I mean, yes, and go round it 1095 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 2: if you want to. Of course you can, Mike. Everyone 1096 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 2: is in Queenstown apart from an organized event. I've never 1097 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 2: seen it so busy. Yeah. No, people talking about taupo 1098 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: around the country. I'm glad it's tourism. I'm increasingly interested 1099 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 2: in the numbers because tourism does seem to be going off. 1100 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 2: The numbers don't quite reflect at post COVID, but the 1101 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 2: numbers do seem to be going off. Mike, agree with 1102 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 2: you regarding Livin Easter eggs. We bought ten boxes and 1103 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 2: Tata well that's disgusting, Libby. Ten boxes is over the 1104 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 2: top unless you've got a monumentally large family. Ten ten 1105 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 2: boxes is absurd. But good on you, you Potter brothers. Mike. 1106 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 2: We've got them. They're delicious, Yeah, they are. I like 1107 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 2: Provincial New Zealand appears to be the center of all 1108 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 2: sorts of aspirational dreams in this country where people and 1109 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: I mentioned the gluten free crackers get upgrade. I can't 1110 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 2: remember what they're called, but they're from a company I've 1111 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 2: never heard of before, and gluten free. I mean you 1112 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 2: look at them and go, oh, Jesus will be cardboard. Anyway, 1113 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 2: they were delicious and they came from Levin as well. 1114 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on in small town New 1115 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: Zealand of a group of people were watching the news 1116 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 2: last night and the people hanging out with Starmer and 1117 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: Luxen founded their drone company in Mount Monganui last time. 1118 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,399 Speaker 2: As in Mount Monganue, you go to the beach, they're 1119 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: making drones. Next thing you know, they've got a sixty 1120 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 2: million dollar contract for the war. For goodness sake, while 1121 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 2: I'm at it, can I also congratulate the warriors and 1122 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 2: congratulate Shans nikkeol Klockstard, who remains until the end of 1123 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Thank goodness, because the first time we 1124 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 2: let him go that was a mistake. Seven appearances in 1125 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 2: the early days and he wanted off to the canber 1126 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 2: Raiders he thought he's all right, we'll have him, and 1127 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 2: the next thing you know, he's fantastic. We finally get 1128 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: him back and he's on fire. He's brilliant. A good 1129 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 2: game this weekend. Of course tomorrow in christ Church sold 1130 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 2: out obviously, but Shance Nickel clock Start has assigned until 1131 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: twenty seven. Let's hope like some of the others who 1132 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: signed on tracks and leave, he actually signed a contract 1133 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 2: in Stays ten away from eight the. 1134 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: Make Hosking Breakfast with the Range, Rover Villa News Togs. 1135 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: Dead be it is Heaven away from It's so big 1136 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 2: move for New Zealand cricket. They're partnering with a new 1137 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 2: major league cricket side in the States competition with a 1138 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 2: couple of hundred million dollars. They reckon the planners, players 1139 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: and coaches play in this league while remaining available for 1140 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 2: the national side. The CEO Scott Winn because with us 1141 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 2: Scott Morning, Good morning, Mike, True North sports ventures. What 1142 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 2: do we know of them? What sort of confidence do 1143 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 2: you have that this is a winner? 1144 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 10: Look, there's always risk involved and these are these type 1145 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 10: of ventures. However, the two major investors are the founders 1146 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 10: of Willow TV and Major League cricket. And there's also 1147 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 10: a number of other high profile investors, including the San 1148 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 10: Francisco forty nine ers investment in there. So we're we're 1149 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 10: really comfortable with the investor group. 1150 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 2: What do you want to do? Do you want to 1151 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 2: crack the American market or do you want to save 1152 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 2: players or both both? 1153 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 10: Really so, the opportunity that this presents is to diversify 1154 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 10: our revenue streams into you know, what is the most 1155 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 10: good of global sporting market, while also creating opportunities for 1156 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 10: our high performance staff and also our players. So thereby 1157 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 10: hopefully you know, encouraging our Black Caps and ultimately our 1158 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 10: White Ferns as well, to stay contracted to New Zealand 1159 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 10: while taking advantage of these other opportunities to top up 1160 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 10: their earnings. 1161 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 2: What do you reckon the chances of cracking the market are? 1162 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 2: And what what does cracking the market look like? 1163 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, so matually cricket it has been going for a 1164 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 10: few years and has already break even. The market in 1165 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 10: the US is an interesting one because there's around twenty 1166 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 10: five million South Asian diaspora there. They are all very 1167 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 10: very well held, so that the market is large. In fact, 1168 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 10: it's probably the second most lucrative market after India already, 1169 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 10: so majorly cricket has made some great strides there and 1170 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 10: what we see the opportunity with Major League Cricket, but 1171 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 10: also just building the New Zealand Cricket and our player 1172 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 10: brand in the US is going to be incredibly helpful. 1173 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 2: So as a player, do I get paid the same 1174 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 2: as I would in India or the Caribbean, or in 1175 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 2: Britain or anywhere else, or do I have to make 1176 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 2: some sort of compensation knowing that I can get back 1177 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: to the national side. 1178 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 10: No, So contracting into the MLC will be a separate 1179 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 10: contracting system, So our players will continue to be paid 1180 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 10: by New Zealand Cricket, but then on top of that 1181 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 10: they will be able to be paid separately by these 1182 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 10: Major League franchises and those numbers will be this similar 1183 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 10: to what other international players such as Pat Cummins and 1184 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 10: other Australians are receiving. So it's a great opportunity for 1185 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 10: our players as well. 1186 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 2: Real interesting, Well done, Scotton, you have a good weekend. 1187 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: Scott Weenneck, Who's the New Zealand Cricket CEO that starts 1188 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 2: in twenty seven with potential expansionary plans in twenty thirty one. 1189 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: We'll follow that with a great de elementrous four minutes 1190 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 2: away from mate. Maybe Oski. Maybe Sky's doing the right 1191 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 2: thing for their shareholders. I assume that snook is not 1192 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: covered because it's not commercial to cover. As a market man, 1193 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 2: you would understand that, Dave. You make a not unreasonable point. 1194 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 2: My suspicion is it's not remotely unaffordable at all. I'm 1195 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 2: the first to concede that snooker as a televisual event 1196 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 2: in a place like New Zealand would be niche. And 1197 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: I think generally it's a niche sport and therefore the 1198 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 2: rights to it would not be great. And given they're 1199 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 2: not great, I wouldn't imagine that they can come back. 1200 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 2: And I mean, if it is, if you're right, all 1201 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 2: Sky need to do is go look, we had to 1202 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 2: look at it, my god. But the price of it 1203 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 2: is inhibited. We can't afford it fair enough. They haven't 1204 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 2: said that, And the reason they haven't said it is 1205 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 2: I suspect I'm right, and it's not that expensive. They 1206 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 2: just haven't got around to doing it. Now for your 1207 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 2: entertainment and pleasure and flowing the good News. This is 1208 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 2: completely free of charge. Tim Wilson Kate Hawksby will do 1209 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 2: the week Rod's in Britain after thirty. This morning, Poor 1210 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 2: old Rachel Reeve. She's praying that they can do this 1211 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 2: deal with Trump. I don't even know what these deals 1212 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,919 Speaker 2: mean or whether these deals were even real, but she's 1213 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 2: gone and borrowed or shed load more money than they 1214 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 2: were expecting. So she's in the stook. So she needs 1215 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 2: something major to come out of this trade deal. We'll 1216 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 2: talk to him about that after eight thirty. 1217 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Meantime, the News is next, setting the agenda and talking 1218 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: the big issues. The Mike Hasking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, 1219 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Life Your Way News, togsad be. 1220 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: And hold on here morning, Mike. Yes, the Potter brand 1221 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 2: Easter eggs were very good. However, the Queen Ant eggs 1222 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 2: are superior. Will wait for your feedback next Easter when 1223 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: they get back on the shop. I disagree the Queen 1224 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Ann's okay, but the Queen An's a little bit commercial 1225 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 2: for my taste. Mike. I got rid of Sky when 1226 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: they cease putting the live snooker on. I hope your 1227 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 2: rents helped get it back on here, Boss, has just 1228 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 2: been yelling at me self indulgence. I think those were 1229 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 2: the terms he's using. This far too much self indulgence 1230 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 2: going on in this program. I told him to naf Off, 1231 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 2: who wind this up a bit Andy. I can't hear it. 1232 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: The galcard in Sir Julius sounds David. 1233 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't it. So of this is Black Mumba. It is 1234 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 2: the original Ellis Cooper group while those ones who are 1235 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 2: still alive, and not all of them are. In fact, 1236 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 2: it will feature the work of Glynn Buxton, who died 1237 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven, so surviving members of the group, 1238 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 2: and it's their first album in fifty one years, which 1239 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 2: I think has got to be some sort of record. 1240 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 2: He's actually on the road for a headlining co headlining 1241 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 2: tour with Judas Priests across twenty two North American cities. 1242 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 2: He's seventy something. I've only interviewed him once. I think 1243 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 2: he was a very likable guy, very chatty, very pleasant, 1244 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 2: likable guy. Not remotely like the on stage presence anyway. 1245 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 2: And Els Cooper reunion tours yet to be confirmed. They 1246 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: think probably due to age. Full out two is too hard, 1247 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 2: so they're looking maybe to play a few small sets 1248 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 2: in places like Detroit and Los Angeles and New York 1249 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 2: and London. I like track number seven, Crap that gets 1250 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 2: in the Way of your dreams. What a great name 1251 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 2: for a song, Crap that gets in the way of 1252 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 2: your dreams. This segment sponsored Andy, so let's hear who 1253 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 2: sponsors it? 1254 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: Not the Week in Review with two degrees fighting for 1255 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: fair for Kiwi business. 1256 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 2: Kate Hawksby's with us along the Tim Wilson, A very 1257 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 2: good morning to both of you. 1258 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 5: Good morning. 1259 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 19: I hear poor Elliott in the seven thirty News running 1260 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 19: through the snooker and I wondered whether he was doing that, 1261 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 19: whether the gun take from you? 1262 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,439 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, And it's a very good question 1263 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 2: to open the segment, Katie, and thank you very much 1264 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 2: for that. Elliott is yet another fill in on this 1265 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 2: program this week due to all the regulars being unavailable 1266 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 2: to actually turn up and do some work. But Elliott 1267 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 2: is the superior broadcaster because Elliott has that global view 1268 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 2: of sport, which is not just rugby and cricket. He 1269 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,040 Speaker 2: looks to the world and goes, there's interesting for a 1270 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 2: collectivity going on all over the world, and what's some 1271 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 2: of that I can cover and heat. That's why he 1272 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 2: does the snooker. Didn't even mention it to him. 1273 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 20: That's impressive, the opportunity to do a bit of a 1274 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 20: rant though, which is good precisely. 1275 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 2: How are you going, Tim? How's that holiday period of yours? 1276 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 5: Oh? 1277 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 20: Well, actually back back in the settle this week, so 1278 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 20: it's but it's a bit weird because everyone's on holiday. 1279 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 2: Do you handling at your multinational? Do you handle the 1280 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 2: leave forms? I? 1281 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, well I have to authorized sec leave et cetera. 1282 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well we're not talking sickly, we're talking a slash. 1283 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Well do you authorize the slash? 1284 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1285 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I authorized the al from your from your. 1286 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 2: How many are you employing these days? Was it Turndred 1287 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: and thirty or Turner and sixty five? You up to? 1288 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 13: Now? 1289 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 2: How many people you got there? 1290 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 5: We've got nine fallen part time employ. 1291 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 2: You got nine? Sorry? Sorry, this is business talk to 1292 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: We've got nine FTEs FTEs, yeah, nine as as ft 1293 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 2: slash pts slash PTEs. Okay, nine ft slash PTEs of 1294 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 2: the nine slash ft slash PTEs. How many have turned 1295 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: up to work these three days? Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays? 1296 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 2: What percentage of the population of your corporate is turning 1297 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 2: up to work? 1298 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 5: Oh we've Yeah, everyone's back in there. Everyone's in the 1299 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 5: office this week the moment. 1300 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 2: So were they all off last week? 1301 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 5: I don't know, because I was off. 1302 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. What's your assessment, Katie. What percentage of the population 1303 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 2: your reckons on holiday this week? 1304 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell. 1305 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 19: I think it's still quite busy in town, but I 1306 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 19: think it's a lot of school holiday peeps, like shoppers 1307 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 19: and stuff like that. I don't I don't think the 1308 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 19: roads are busy in the morning, which is awesome, but 1309 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 19: it is just combobulating when you you're kind of in 1310 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 19: work mode when the whole country feels like they're in 1311 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 19: holiday mode, that is a weird vibe. This week has 1312 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 19: been weird. But by the way, I heard you say 1313 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 19: that I would know the name of those crackers, so 1314 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,919 Speaker 19: I quickly had to look them up because I thought, 1315 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 19: I do not know the name of those crackers. 1316 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,439 Speaker 5: What crackers were those? Again? 1317 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 19: The crisp bread from leven It's the Baked Dane. 1318 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 2: Baked Dane gluten free. I'm right in saying gluten free, 1319 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 2: aren't I? 1320 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 19: Well, it depends, well, yeah, I think they made. 1321 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 1: I think the ones we had with a keito knack. 1322 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 5: And brute. 1323 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 2: Nachenbrut there's nothing better. Yeah, A little bit of. 1324 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 19: It was just all seeds and olive oil and it 1325 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 19: was it was great ingredients. It was it was a 1326 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 19: really good product. We liked it, didn't we? 1327 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 2: How is it possible, Tim, that those two products, the 1328 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: Potter brother eggs and the are made in Levin? And 1329 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 2: I also got a text from some of the r 1330 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 2: J's factory shop as an r J's liquorice that's also 1331 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 2: in Leven. What's going on in live. 1332 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 5: In was obviously some kind of gourmet renaissance. Isn't there 1333 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 5: the new Martinborough? 1334 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, is it a bill 1335 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 2: that you and you come? So you're an r J's investor, 1336 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 2: you're driving through town on the holiday north and you 1337 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 2: see that the nachenbrook is made there, and you think, 1338 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 2: I tell you what, why don't we set up jays 1339 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 2: in this part of the world because you see it 1340 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 2: being an artisanal Therefore you want to be a part 1341 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: of the artisanal community. 1342 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 20: I reckon that r Jay's was there first, and then 1343 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 20: your knack and book came along. 1344 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 2: Right, Well, when did Potter brothers arrive? 1345 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 5: Well, that's the question, isn't it. That's there's the sexful 1346 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 5: moon dollar question. 1347 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 10: For a while. 1348 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 19: I think it's your first experience with the Potter is 1349 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 19: Easter Egg. But have been around for a while and 1350 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 19: they're in the supermarkets and they do other things like 1351 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 19: chocolate dipped Russian fudge and stuff like that. 1352 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 20: They they're already they should do something German. 1353 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 5: They should. 1354 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 2: And are they well, Katie, you obviously know more about 1355 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 2: this than I do. But are they? Are they brothers? 1356 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 5: Oh? 1357 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 1358 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 19: I don't know them personally. I mean I I don't 1359 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 19: investigate the background of the family. 1360 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, because you know the research on companies, when you 1361 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 2: launch a business, you always go something and something. So 1362 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 2: it's it's like Wilson and Hosking, Hawksby and Wilson because 1363 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 2: there's an alliteration and a vibe to it that people 1364 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 2: respond to. Other thing you do with businesses is put 1365 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 2: a start date on Wilson and Hawksby since nineteen oh nine, 1366 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 2: and people think, oh, it's nostalgia, whether it's true or not. 1367 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 2: And so I'm just wondering whether the Potter brothers or 1368 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 2: really brothers, Whether they're actually called Potter or they think, well, 1369 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 2: you don't know that they're brothers. They could be oh yo, bro, 1370 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 2: why would you. 1371 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 19: Like, why would you call yourself plotter brothers if you 1372 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 19: weren't brothers. 1373 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 2: This could be the scandal of the day. Our newsroom 1374 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 2: needs to be onto this. I might talk to Elliott 1375 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 2: about this. Actually brief break more in a moment. 1376 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Fourteen past eight, the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast 1377 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, car it by News Talks. 1378 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 2: It be news Talks. It'll be sixteen past eight. 1379 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: The week in Review with two degrees bringing smart business 1380 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 1: solutions to the table. 1381 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, Kate Hawksby, so here we Go. RJ started 1382 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 2: in ninety five, so they're the locals. Foxton Fizz, we 1383 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 2: forgot that Foxton Fizz that's famous of course. Now this 1384 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 2: is for U kadie g nsc Pisto. 1385 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 13: Jun Pisto. 1386 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that's from Livin. There's a food tour each year 1387 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 2: in the district. So this this place is going off. 1388 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 2: Book yourselves, book yourselves in. We need we need a 1389 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 2: long weekend for some I have had Foxton fause my 1390 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 2: grandparents used to own a batch at Foxton Beach back 1391 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 2: in the days when Foxton Beach was somewhere known had 1392 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 2: ever heard of, and my grandparents who went and bought 1393 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 2: batches and places like that, and we would go there 1394 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 2: and look, I'd go, Nana and Granddad, there's nothing to 1395 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 2: do here? What am I doing here? But anyway, be 1396 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 2: that as it made. It's a trip down memory lane. 1397 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 2: Ben and Joe Potter are brothers here, Katie, Ben and Joe, 1398 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 2: you were right, broad question, Katie, Is Mike this all 1399 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 2: over the place at home very much? 1400 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1401 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 19: Yeah, It's really hard to keep up because your mind 1402 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 19: races a lot, and often you hear you sometimes do 1403 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 19: this on here. 1404 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 5: Actually Jason might be aware of it. Maybe it's some 1405 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 5: management issue. 1406 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,640 Speaker 19: You assume that people know something already, and so you 1407 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 19: just go to the next bit and it's like, wait 1408 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 19: a minute, what are you talking about? 1409 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 20: Does he start talking about stuff that he's been thinking 1410 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 20: about and it's just like, oh, my goodness, yeah, something random. 1411 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 19: I'm like, what are you talking about? 1412 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 5: What is that about? 1413 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1414 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 19: Exactly. 1415 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 20: Actually, actually I do a bit of that with Rachel. 1416 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 20: So she's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, oh, 1417 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 20: oh yeah, hang on. 1418 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the curse. I think 1419 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 2: you'll agree with me. It's the curse of the genius. 1420 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 5: The mind is racing. Oh no, that's some kind of curse. 1421 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 2: Now to my fun factor of the week for you was, 1422 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 2: I had no idea until we joined a queue that 1423 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 2: chatbots have cues? Did you? Did you think like me 1424 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 2: that chatbots were the answer technologically to ever being in 1425 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,640 Speaker 2: a queue with a person ever again? And therefore it 1426 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,640 Speaker 2: wasn't possible to have a cue for a chatbot. And 1427 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 2: yet there are cues for chatbots. 1428 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 5: I suppose on reflection, you think there's only a limited 1429 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 5: number of chatbots. Can't manage you know why? Right? 1430 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 21: No thing? 1431 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 2: Just stop again? Why are there a limited number of chatbots? 1432 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 2: They're not real. Why wouldn't you have an infinite infinite 1433 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 2: number of chatbots? 1434 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,879 Speaker 5: You've only got so many servers doing the chatbots expensive? 1435 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 2: You expand your expand your memory. You had to wait? 1436 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you had to wait in line for a chatbot? 1437 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 5: How long did you have to wait for? 1438 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 2: What were we Katie twenty fifteen, twenty twenty yew oh 1439 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 2: well we were like five or six in the queue. 1440 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 19: Yeah, this is another one of those stories you tell me, 1441 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 19: did you personally? 1442 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 5: But you were actually the one on hold? 1443 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 19: It was me, And often I hear you tell these 1444 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 19: stories and you go I had to put up with this, 1445 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 19: and I think, no, you didn't, You weren't. 1446 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 11: You did not. 1447 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 13: It was I went off to the snooker room show 1448 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 13: a few frames and then came back and my wife 1449 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 13: was still on the phone waiting for the chatbot. 1450 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 5: That's outrageous one hundred. How it goes, if we what. 1451 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,560 Speaker 2: Have we achieved with chatbots? If we've achieved nothing with chatbots. 1452 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole point of technological advance is something 1453 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 2: profoundly changes a bit than It. 1454 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 19: Must be a system, and it must come down to money. 1455 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 19: Some are bitter than others someone. Some are like, Hi, 1456 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 19: I'm Gina, You're friendly, I've got names and they want 1457 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 19: to get to know you. And others are just you know, 1458 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 19: wrote like, I'm a chatbot. Do the following three queries? 1459 01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 19: Meet your name? 1460 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 5: You know? Do you want to know about X, Y 1461 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 5: or Z? You have to select what was okay? 1462 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 2: Because I was I was there but adjacent What actually happened? Katie? 1463 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 2: Did the chat bots in the same room? 1464 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 5: Admit it? You weren't even in the same room. 1465 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't the same room. 1466 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 6: Remember this I can't. 1467 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 13: Deal with because this is not a novel situation for you, Katie, 1468 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 13: this is just the grinding. 1469 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 2: Well, have you kapen your whole life in a chatbot Q? 1470 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 19: Honestly, this is the daily Edmond and the grind. 1471 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have this. 1472 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,719 Speaker 19: I like talking to chatbots. It's I'm permanently on hold 1473 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 19: with something. 1474 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 5: Have you tried have you tried? Actually, have you tried 1475 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 5: talking to chat GPT? I love chet. 1476 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,679 Speaker 19: GPT wants to be your friend now, it's so cut. 1477 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 20: Chat gpt is Roman was talking to chet GPT said 1478 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 20: are you going to take over the world? 1479 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 2: It's not a bad question. 1480 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 5: What was the next question? Is? It's like there is 1481 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 5: a lot of uncertainty about new technology, but I think 1482 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 5: you'll find that. 1483 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 20: Essentially, it was that it was a holding. It was 1484 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,879 Speaker 20: actually a holding statement like, well, I might be working. 1485 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 2: On taking maybe maybe not. 1486 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 5: In contrast, I'm going to be your new friend. 1487 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 2: In contrast, Katie's last question to chat gpt was what 1488 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 2: is this as she held a fruit up to it 1489 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 2: and it went into purple guaba. 1490 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 19: Yeah, and then it said not just it's a it's 1491 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 19: a strawberry gaba. But it said would you like some 1492 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,839 Speaker 19: nice would you like me to provide some nice recipes? 1493 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 5: Perhaps a cocktail? 1494 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:27,679 Speaker 9: Okay? 1495 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 20: See this is the way, Katie, This is the only 1496 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 20: way you can get an intelligent and courteous conversation in 1497 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 20: your and your life, isn't it? 1498 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 5: Speaking to chat GPTs? 1499 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go? What are you doing 1500 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 2: for anzac? Data? Morrow? 1501 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 13: Tim, We'll probably go to mass Actually, remember Nice who 1502 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 13: gave so much so that we could we could enjoy 1503 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 13: the freedoms. 1504 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 15: That we have. 1505 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Well, there was nothing wrong with that. Will you enjoy that? 1506 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 2: And Katie, you enjoy it. And it'll bound to be 1507 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 2: fun because some of it's going to be with me 1508 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 2: and some an biscuits and biscuits? Where do they come from? 1509 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,040 Speaker 2: Are they from. 1510 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 19: Dive from Hunebe? 1511 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh, well that's not it's not quite as exotic as it. 1512 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 2: Twenty two eight twenty two. 1513 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,679 Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dogs. 1514 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 2: There'd be now. The RSA's annual Poppy Appeal is underway 1515 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,679 Speaker 2: every day. 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I have pledged 1539 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 2: to return to the radio on Monday morning at six 1540 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,760 Speaker 2: am to continue the mic hosking breakfast. When we don't 1541 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 2: do that, why would he? Profits are up at you 1542 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 2: are not yeasy at Addi Das, which I'm pleased to hear, 1543 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,600 Speaker 2: because Eddie Das have had problems, not just with the 1544 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeasy mind you. Yeasy was a very successful part of 1545 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 2: the business until Watts's face went nuts and they had 1546 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 2: to distance themselves and they've been trying to offload them 1547 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 2: cheap ever since. Anyway, for the first time in a 1548 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 2: number of years, their first quarter numbers have come in. 1549 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 2: Their profit is up over operating profit is up over 1550 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: eighty percent, so they made six hundred and ninety two million. 1551 01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 2: They're worried about the tariffs because most of their shoes 1552 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 2: have made in Vietnam, Indonesia and Bangladesh, and a fifth 1553 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 2: of their sales are in the United States. So that's 1554 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 2: not going to say you get you get rid of 1555 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 2: old Kanye. Next thing, you know, you got an equal 1556 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 2: nutter in the form of Donald So business hasn't really 1557 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 2: changed that much for them. But we like successful businesses, 1558 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,600 Speaker 2: don't we. Now money got big, big money problems for 1559 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor in Britain. We will talk more 1560 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,919 Speaker 2: about this after the News, which is next. 1561 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know, 1562 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 1: the mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the La 1563 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use. 1564 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 2: Togs Head be Mike. Yesterday you announced that Tesla had 1565 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 2: a worse than expected report. I didn't. I don't think 1566 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,640 Speaker 2: I said it was worse than expected. I said it 1567 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 2: was a very poor report. The market may have been 1568 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 2: expecting even worse. Today the stock is up over five percent. 1569 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 2: Just adds to the confusion of what's happening in America 1570 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 2: and people's thinking. James, thank you for that. It's a 1571 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 2: very good point. What drove the generally, what tribes a 1572 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 2: share price is if the number, if it goes up, 1573 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 2: is the number is not as bad as you were 1574 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 2: expecting if you're expecting a bad number. But what more 1575 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 2: importantly happened yesterday is they have what's called an earnings call. 1576 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 2: The head of the company, in this particular case, Elon 1577 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 2: must jumps on the phone call people ask him questions 1578 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 2: and what he says then drives the price generally. And 1579 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 2: what he said yesterday is he's pulling out a doze 1580 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 2: and he's going back to concentrate on cars. That was 1581 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 2: seen as a positive move in a variety of different areas, 1582 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 2: not least of which is in the business of the 1583 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 2: cars themselves. Mike, I don't think has been brought up 1584 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 2: this morning, but it had me wondering since hearing it 1585 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,679 Speaker 2: on the news yesterday morning. Why has Luxton decided now's 1586 01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 2: the time to make a stand on the side of 1587 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 2: Ukraine and Starma after being fairly neutral. You're wrong on that. 1588 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't know what you've been listening or following, but 1589 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 2: what lux and I've followed what he said over there 1590 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 2: when he looked to our troops or talked to our 1591 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 2: troops the other day or the troops they're training. He 1592 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 2: said nothing there that he hasn't said here one before 1593 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 2: and two a number of times, very loudly, very clearly. 1594 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,759 Speaker 2: Twenty ten minutes away. 1595 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: From nine international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, peace 1596 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business, we are UK bound. 1597 01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 2: Roderick Little a. 1598 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 12: Very good morning, make good morning to you, mate. 1599 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 2: After your expertise this morning, because I know that Auntie 1600 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 2: Rachel's are gone and borrowed a tremendous amount of money 1601 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 2: that she wasn't expecting tomorrow, and therefore she will need 1602 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 2: some sort of accommodation from the Americans. Read these trade deals. 1603 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,640 Speaker 2: Does anybody actually know what's in these deals, whether the 1604 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 2: Americans are going to equious at all, and whether there's 1605 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 2: some sort of mess of relief coming your way fiscally 1606 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 2: or not. 1607 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 12: I think there is some sort of acquiescence coming our way, 1608 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 12: and I think there is some sort of relief coming 1609 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,639 Speaker 12: our way which will be incredibly welcome for the Labor 1610 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 12: government and indeed for Rachel Reeves. How much it will be, 1611 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 12: I'm not sure, but I've been assured by various people 1612 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 12: close to Trump. But then you know who knows Sydney, 1613 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 12: who knows in the end that the UK has looked 1614 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 12: upon favorably and that there will be some sort of 1615 01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 12: concession and will be better off than others. All doesn't 1616 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 12: address the huge problem which Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor of 1617 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 12: and the Chancellor of the Excheque, and the person who 1618 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 12: in an opinion poll only a couple of days ago 1619 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 12: came out, has been easily the most unpopular person in 1620 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 12: the country. As a politician. She has overshot official borrowing 1621 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 12: forecasts by fifteen billion quid in the eight months that 1622 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 12: she has been in office, and as you probably know, Mike, 1623 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 12: we weren't terribly chary about borrowing, I mean before she 1624 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 12: came in, you know, so this is a huge, huge problem. 1625 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 12: The figure is fifteen billion pounds more than in the 1626 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 12: last financial year. We're still spending and spending and spending, 1627 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 12: and nothing she has done has reduced that. There has 1628 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 12: been no economic growth. And the suggestion is that you know, 1629 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 12: when the autumn budget comes along, which isn't that far 1630 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 12: off now, it's going to be either very grave tax 1631 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 12: cuts or even bigger cuts to public services. One would 1632 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 12: hope that it's a latter, because that's where there's more 1633 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 12: room I think to spare and see. 1634 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,639 Speaker 2: What's interesting about that for me is that that we've 1635 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 2: been relatively complimentary about what they've done as a labor government, 1636 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 2: in the sense that they've had had to go at 1637 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 2: the NHS, they've had to go at the people laying 1638 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 2: about a welfare and all that sort of stuff. Look good, 1639 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 2: But then you go back when you're doing what they 1640 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 2: are doing with the money, you're going back to the 1641 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 2: labor party of old and labor parties historically aren't that 1642 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 2: good with doe and these numbers would back that up. 1643 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 12: Indeed, that's all true, and actually we may have been 1644 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 12: too come to them in many ways. I think I 1645 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:46,639 Speaker 12: think they've done incredibly well on the on the international stage. 1646 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,560 Speaker 12: I think they've managed the relations between the Europe and 1647 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,600 Speaker 12: the USA with a degree of dexterity, and between the 1648 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 12: Ukraine and Europe with a degree of dexterity. I think 1649 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 12: they have made a few moves to character act some 1650 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 12: of the more ludicrous ideas of the woke movement, which 1651 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 12: have gone down well over here. But frankly the LHS, 1652 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 12: we've been told that Westreeton wants to reform it, show 1653 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 12: us what are you going to do? And we have 1654 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 12: a chancellor who is who failed in her first budget, 1655 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 12: a dreadful mess in her first budget didn't do much 1656 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 12: better you know, a month ago, and we have Ed 1657 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 12: Milliband who believes that Britain can be run energy wise 1658 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 12: on kind of I think the tears of Unicorns. I 1659 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 12: mean he is banning everything which doesn't fit in with 1660 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 12: his bizarre net zero ambitions. So there's a real problem there. 1661 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 12: You got rid of Reeves and Milliband, you've got a 1662 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 12: government that might work. 1663 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 2: Interesting, speaking of Milliband, how does he go about charging 1664 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 2: the South more for power than the Northea. 1665 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 12: It's an interesting one, isn't it? And I kind of 1666 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 12: get it. So is far far better off than the North. 1667 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 3: You know. 1668 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,640 Speaker 12: I'm sitting up here in the North of England, and 1669 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 12: our tariffs on almost everything apart from council churches, by 1670 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,519 Speaker 12: the way, are much lower than they are in the South. 1671 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:20,799 Speaker 12: The disposable income in the South is much larger, quality 1672 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 12: of life better, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So 1673 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 12: this is classic socialist economics at work, which is we 1674 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 12: charge the people in the South more, partly because a 1675 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 12: lot of their energy will come from areas beyond their remit, 1676 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 12: you know, so all the areas which could put up 1677 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 12: with huge wind farms and offshore wind farms, and so 1678 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,920 Speaker 12: the panels across everywhere our areas where the rents are 1679 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,679 Speaker 12: comparatively low. So it means the North, it means Wales, 1680 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 12: it means a West Country, it means to a degree, 1681 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 12: the East Midlands. So I could see the point of this. 1682 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 12: The trouble is for labor that it was the South 1683 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 12: and the Southeast which elected them to office. 1684 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, mate, you go, well, we'll catch up 1685 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Rod little out of Britain Force this morning, 1686 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 2: just quickly. In that part of the world. They're going 1687 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 2: to try tasers, trial them on prison guards for prisoners 1688 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,560 Speaker 2: who cause difficulty in jail. There's been a couple of 1689 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 2: attacks on the officers. The union's got agitated. In fact, 1690 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 2: the unions are saying, we don't need a trial, let's 1691 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 2: just get on with it. Meantime, they're also going to 1692 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,600 Speaker 2: start publishing the nationalities of foreign criminals, and there's a 1693 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 2: lot of them. There's the Home Secretary. There are nineteen 1694 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,639 Speaker 2: thousand foreign offenders awaiting deportation, up from almost eighteen thousand, 1695 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 2: so they're not winning that battle. Ever, anyone who's sentence 1696 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 2: to more than twelve months in prison is set for 1697 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 2: automatic deportation, so they're going to at least let you 1698 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 2: know where these people are from. And I note also 1699 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,800 Speaker 2: that British Steel appears because it was nationalized the other day, 1700 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 2: and we told you about that at the time that 1701 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 2: the consultation that was underway to get rid of the 1702 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred jobs has now been officially withdrawn, and 1703 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 2: so the jobs are safe. Steel production in that particular 1704 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 2: part of the world seems safe for now as well, 1705 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:08,960 Speaker 2: which is good. Sixteen two. 1706 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,759 Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1707 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 1708 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 2: At b AT are thirteen minutes away from line I 1709 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 2: note with I think some concern. We discussed it on 1710 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 2: the program two three weeks ago and one of the providers, 1711 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 2: the power providers as an electricity providers in this country, 1712 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 2: were suggesting one of the answers to our problems because 1713 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 2: I hope you're aware that we're going into yet another 1714 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 2: winter with not enough production and power in this country 1715 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 2: because we're so hopelessly reliant on hydro and hasn't rained enough. 1716 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 2: So then we go to our backup sources, which of 1717 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 2: course end up being coal. So there's never been more 1718 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 2: coal in the country. We do want renewables, but we 1719 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 2: haven't built enough renewables because we've got the endless problem 1720 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,479 Speaker 2: of how long it takes to do anything in this country, 1721 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 2: whether you're talking about the RAMA or anything else. So 1722 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 2: one of the arguments was that what we do as 1723 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 2: we go to the reserves. Now, we've got plenty of reserves, 1724 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 2: and there have been charge train in charge of those 1725 01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 2: particular reserves, and the supply we were talking to on 1726 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 2: the programs says, let's just dip into the reserves. That 1727 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 2: seemed to me to be relatively sensible until Transpowers got involved. 1728 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 2: And are they saying, well, we're not doing this. They 1729 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,280 Speaker 2: they've issued a paper. They've got some wide ranging feedback, 1730 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 2: and they've issued a paper, and as a result of 1731 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,759 Speaker 2: that paper being issued, they've got a full review underway. 1732 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,800 Speaker 2: And once they've got that full review underway and completed it, 1733 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 2: they're going to issue another paper. And that paper is 1734 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 2: going to come to us in the winter of twenty 1735 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 2: twenty six, would be sort of this time next year. 1736 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 2: Now generators have asked, they say, for easier access to 1737 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,680 Speaker 2: this water. We have, they say, an aging fleet of 1738 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 2: thermal generation units to provide back up. I think we 1739 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,760 Speaker 2: know that for when the wind doesn't blow and the 1740 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 2: sun doesn't shine and it doesn't rain enough. There are 1741 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 2: no easy answers, they say. Now here's their argument making 1742 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,560 Speaker 2: it easier their words, not mine, Making it easier to 1743 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 2: use contingent hydro storage to reduce gas and coalburn may 1744 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 2: feel like a no brainer, but it isn't, to which 1745 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,000 Speaker 2: I would say, isn't it Our decision puts New Zealand 1746 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 2: security of supply first. So what they're saying is they're 1747 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 2: being deeply conservative and they're going the moment we dip 1748 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,759 Speaker 2: in to this reserve water and use it, two things happen. 1749 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 2: One we have less water in our reserves, and two 1750 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,280 Speaker 2: we need the rain next year to be even more 1751 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 2: rain to back up the reserves. And once they've backed 1752 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,680 Speaker 2: up the reserves to then go on supplies with the 1753 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 2: regular amounts of water required for the hydro production. That's 1754 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 2: not an unreasonable point. My point would be is what's 1755 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,120 Speaker 2: the point of a reserve if you're never going to 1756 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 2: use it? And if you're never going to use it, 1757 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 2: which appears to be Transpower's argument, there's no point in 1758 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 2: actually having a reserve because even though it's sitting there, 1759 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 2: it's just toying with you, isn't it. So it's important 1760 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 2: they say for the market to continue to coordinate, early coordinate. 1761 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 2: What if it's not raining and there's no sun and 1762 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 2: there's no wind, what is it you're coordinating apart from 1763 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,679 Speaker 2: bringing more coal into the country, which allegedly we don't 1764 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 2: want to do. So the recent inflows have ease the 1765 01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,000 Speaker 2: decline apparently at the hydro that that's a flashway of 1766 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 2: saying it rained a lot, and things aren't as bad 1767 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 2: as they were, sitting currently at eighty two percent of 1768 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 2: average for this time of year, so we may scrape through. 1769 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 2: But what are you coordinating If the reserves are out 1770 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 2: of play and the things that you can't control aren't 1771 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 2: working the way you want them to, what is it 1772 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,679 Speaker 2: you're coordinating? None of it seems to make any sense 1773 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 2: to me. Night Away from Lyne the. 1774 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,519 Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs 1775 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 1: Head be not some. 1776 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 2: Good news for tech lovers from Harvey Norman super deals. 1777 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,280 Speaker 2: They're still on, but they're ending super soon. So you 1778 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,560 Speaker 2: need to upgrade your laundry, your fridge, your dishwasher, or 1779 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 2: your kitchen. It that's you. Hundreds of savings are waiting 1780 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,720 Speaker 2: for you right now, so you can upgrade the old 1781 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 2: living room. 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Who doesn't want to logging camera? 1797 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,720 Speaker 2: But you better hurry this, Harvey Norman super deals must 1798 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,880 Speaker 2: end on Tuesday asking speaking of tech, actually findily enough, 1799 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 2: I note that Warner Brothers, which have a part to 1800 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 2: plan this particular part of the world, they're cracking down 1801 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 2: on passwords sharing. Obviously, looked at Netflix and when that worked, 1802 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 2: and it did work for Netflix, I mean that thing. 1803 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,640 Speaker 2: At the time, I remember thinking, Gee, it's going to 1804 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 2: be interesting to see whether they successful on this, and 1805 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 2: I've looked at their numbers subsequent to the to the 1806 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 2: crackdown and it does work. So anyway, Warner Brothers Discovery 1807 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 2: are given a go on Max. They've launched a new feature. 1808 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 2: It's called Extra Member add On. I don't know the 1809 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 2: supplicable here because I'm permanently confused about streaming in this country. 1810 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 2: I know you can get Max on Sky something, or 1811 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 2: rather Sky up, Sky down, Sky goes, Sky round the Block, 1812 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:08,640 Speaker 2: whatever that is. And if you've got that, you can 1813 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 2: go by Entertainment and that's Max and Max cost your money. 1814 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,720 Speaker 2: But anyway, the extra member thing of seven nine, seven 1815 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 2: ninety nine a month. The option is limited to one 1816 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 2: add on profile per subscription. If that means anything to you. 1817 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,679 Speaker 2: Five minutes away from. 1818 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:26,559 Speaker 1: Nine trending now you're one stuff for Mother's Day. 1819 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,519 Speaker 2: Fragrances Ed, you know Sheeran. He's been in a pub 1820 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 2: in Nashville alongside a guy called Noah who sings songs 1821 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,720 Speaker 2: as well as Ed, and they did a little pop 1822 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 2: up and they started singing a song. And not only 1823 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 2: did they start singing a song, they started to sing 1824 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 2: this is a song that's never been heard before. 1825 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:48,560 Speaker 21: Conversations with my dead friends me suggests from all I 1826 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 21: except I can't think that this worst best left. They're 1827 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 21: in the past. 1828 01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:57,640 Speaker 1: We'd along. 1829 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 21: An overwhelming signs. 1830 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Of all the friends I do not have. 1831 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:13,200 Speaker 21: Let scene on A family has fractured, gooing up and. 1832 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 2: You gotta say it's very ed, isn't It means unmistakably ed. 1833 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 2: He's been doing a number of these pub pop ups, 1834 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 2: apparently ahead of his album, which is called Play, and 1835 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be released in September allegedly. I just 1836 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 2: wonder how many of these are I mean, really, does 1837 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,280 Speaker 2: he honestly literally just go down to a pub and 1838 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,120 Speaker 2: then start sae. Because I'm looking at that Lord thing 1839 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,479 Speaker 2: yesterday in I can't remember the name of the park, 1840 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 2: but I've been to the park. I thought, I've been 1841 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,600 Speaker 2: to that park. It's a very nice restaurant in that 1842 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 2: park where she was in New York yesterday, and I 1843 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 2: was just wondering, actually if I was at that restaurant, 1844 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,680 Speaker 2: because I've got a beautiful outdoor terrace and I was 1845 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,360 Speaker 2: thinking to myself, I was at the outdoor terrace and 1846 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 2: Lord turned up with her grunge supporters. Would I suddenly think, oh, 1847 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,479 Speaker 2: that's right in my dinner anyway? How much of that's 1848 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,839 Speaker 2: genuine pop up versus kind of it's a bit pre planned. 1849 01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 2: And we'll leak a bit of it out on social media, 1850 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 2: and we'll make sure we're recording it so Hosking can 1851 01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 2: put it on a show at the end of a 1852 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 2: Thursday morning. You know, Hi, are we all just in 1853 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,760 Speaker 2: the matrix? Is the question I'm asking you as I 1854 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,040 Speaker 2: leave you for the long weekend. Anyway, We'll look forward 1855 01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,800 Speaker 2: to your company Monday as always, Happy Days. 1856 01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,560 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1857 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,759 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1858 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.