1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Barry Sober here, very good afternoon, good afternoon, right, good 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: to see. So the clean car standard thing is getting 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: the boot or getting drastically reduced. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: What it's getting drastically reduced in the short term over 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: the next two years, and then they're having a review 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: in that time. But in the meantime it'll be reduced dramatically, 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: so it means that a lot of money will be 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: saved in credits and importers of cars. And this is 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: what it's all about really. The law was introduced in 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: twenty three with the aim of encouraging New Zealanders to 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: buy more fuel efficient cars and reduce emissions. Well, the 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: transportment is to Chris Bishop. He says the charges aren't 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: working other than driving the price up, so he's wasting 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: no time, I've got to say, and making the changes. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: It has estimated these changes will avoid two hundred and 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: sixty four million dollars in neat charges that could have 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: been passed on to New Zealand consumers through high vehicle prices. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: And if there's one number to remember, that is the 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: number that if we dine act there will be two 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty four million dollars in net charges that 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: could have and likely will be passed on to New 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: Zealanders through high vehicle prices. So the changes we are 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: announcing today will be law by the end of the 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: week and that will provide certainty to importers and ultimately 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: to New Zealand consumers. 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm making round. 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: They all, right, well, we'll ask Chris Boshop about that. 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: He's on the show Barry, so we'll ask him more 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: about that then. Now, IPSOS, the latest poll is not 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: great for Nationalism. 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: No, it's terrible actually when you consider that the same 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: sort of poll was the cost of living remains the 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: most serious issue facing the public. But when they did 34 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: a similar poll when National came to power last time, 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: in fact, the figures were reversed. That of the twenty 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 2: top issues, the National claim the fifteen top, whereas Labor 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: claimed could claim not even five with the coalition partners. 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: Now the figures have been reversed, so the coalition government 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: has only claimed fifteen, well, in fact, five of the 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: top places that they can be relied on. So I 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 2: think Chris, certainly Chris Luxen was was you know, he'll 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: be very worried about this law and order and foreign affairs. 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: They are the only two that National score above one 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: of the Labor is Winston Wellygeous and the climate change. 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: Of course the Greens claim on that issues facing Mali, 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: the Marketing Party the other fifteen Barry, what does this mean? 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: Because you've been doing this a lot longer than I have. 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: But from my perspective, I was thinking, well, the polls 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: don't with the polls that we're putting Labor ahead, it's 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: a protest vote. The economy's crap, but Labor didn't have 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: any policies, so that therefore it was a protest vote. 52 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Now that Labor has some policies and there's still the 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: poles aren't changing, what does it tell us? 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, my view has always been 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: in all of this that you know, it takes so 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: long to turn an economy around the way it was left, 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: and when National and the coalition partners took over that 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: it's you know, next year, I think we'll see you 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: a better year and maybe these figures will right themselves 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: in terms of what National wants. But I've got to 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: say the polls should worry National, but the Prime Minister, 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: he's playing it tough. 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 4: I'm focused on making sure We're trying to fix this economy. 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. We inherited a pretty tough situation, 65 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: thirty five year recession, big COVID hangover, a difficult trading environment. 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: But my job is to fix it and so you 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: know that is what we and our team are doing. 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: There's so many poles each and every week, I'll spend 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: more time commenting on poles and now you're trying to 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: fix this country. 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of truth in that. They're very ambitious. 72 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: Chris Bishop was standing alongside and on the stage this afternoon. 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: I've got to say though he wasn't looking too worried. 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: The thing is like if you ask people about Labour's 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: record on costs, on inflation, yep, you know, or their 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: record on education, well, how can you? 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, no sense, I can't myself. I mean, 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: people have short memories, it seems, you know when you 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: look at Chippy and congratulations Chippy for becoming engaged today, 80 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: not necessarily in politics but to his partner. But you 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: know he he was the minister at the center of 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: the durn government. 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: And right the Greens are going to provoke mining contracts 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: and they're just letting us all know now before the 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: actual contracts are signed and done and dusted. 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't go into this too much, but the 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: thing is that it makes it more difficult for Labor 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: again if this is going to be their bottom line, 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: and Madame Davidson that sounds as though she's pretty determined 90 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: on it that it was. Of course the government the 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: Labor Party changed the orl and gas exploration thing as 92 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: soon as they came into power Whenston Peters was part 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: of that government. So too was Shane Jones, the mining 94 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: minister who you remember still on stage with his hand 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: over his face, not liking what happening. But what they're 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: seeing is a message to the international community, and there 97 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: are a couple of big internationals involved off the Taranaki 98 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: coast at the moment, saying that if you enter into 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: a contract with this government, we're not going on it. 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: But that's only the Greens. But it just makes it 101 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: that bit harder for the Labor Party when you consider 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: the Greens will be a coalition partners, so will the Malordi. 103 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Party, Yes, they will need them or New Zealand first. 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well I do. 105 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Not count that discount until he says he won't do it, 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: and he's only said he won't do it with Chippy. Yeah, 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: well that's now very quickly, our Dona is going to 108 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: appear on the Graham Norton Show. 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of like a public service announcement, isn't 110 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: it really that she gets on all the shows? And 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: because when she was on the Stephen Colbeer Show, I 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: think you might have been in New York at that 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: time traveling as a journalist. No, I wasn't there then, 114 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: Well I was there. But look, it comes as no 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: surprise that she's on the grave and showed that it's 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: promoting her autobiographical documentary or film they've made of her. 117 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: I mean, this woman is a legend in her own lifetime, 118 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: but overseas, overseas in this country she's not seeing in is. 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Playing her documentary live this afternoon. International. 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unbelievable, you know, but she's living overseas. She's 121 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: a good international citizen and they love her. 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: Barry Soper with Politics. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.