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Speaker 1: Chaos in the House yesterday Parliament suspended. Here is Hannah Lafferty,

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Speaker 1: might P Clark and Willie Jackson, the Party of.

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Speaker 2: Doug Bryan, the Party of Christophin Lason's, Jim Bolger, Jenny Shipley.

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Speaker 2: None of those people would have been played the way

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has been played, mister Speaker.

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Speaker 1: Well, the former Treaty negotiations Minister chrisph Nason is with

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Speaker 1: us this morning. Good morning, Mordena. First of all, is

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Speaker 1: Willy Wright is National no longer? You know your party all?

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Speaker 2: The National Party is a liberal conservative party. That's what

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Speaker 2: I joined, gee, almost fifty years ago, and I'm very

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Speaker 2: proud of the traditions of Hannah McIntyre, Bulger Rayam and

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Speaker 2: so on. I think we've moved away from that person.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Luxeon's made a mistake in I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if the choices either get into government

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Speaker 1: and swallow this dead rat or not, you would have

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Speaker 1: gone not.

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Speaker 2: I would have probably gone not.

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Speaker 1: I think here is this going to cost them at

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Speaker 1: the next election.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting. A lot of mari come up to me,

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Speaker 2: which is not surprising. At the airport and so on,

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Speaker 2: and the white guy. See give me recently, I've always

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Speaker 2: voted National. Where am I going to go now? You see,

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Speaker 2: the debate takes place against the back of what I

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Speaker 2: perceived to be hostile acts against target Fenaware over the

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Speaker 2: last year in relation to names and treating principles and

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Speaker 2: certain am sort of actions and so on. So it's

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Speaker 2: the coupination of a number of things.

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Speaker 1: The KKK comments, you know, did being a packer up

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Speaker 1: in the grille of Nicole McKee and David Seymour etc.

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Speaker 1: How does that play out with voters?

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Speaker 2: With kiwis oh, I think that will be pretty appalled.

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Speaker 2: You don't behave like that in parliament. David's got to

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Speaker 2: realize it's not some kind of academic debate, sort of

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Speaker 2: a nice, polite little seminar that's been conducted. So there

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Speaker 2: will be emotions, that's for sure, but to behave with

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Speaker 2: them certain limits in the house.

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Speaker 1: Are you still a member of the National Party?

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Speaker 2: I think I am. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you still want to be?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, I'm National to the cores in terms of

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Speaker 2: the key Bulger traditions and I just the party seems

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Speaker 2: to have moved a little way from that at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to be loyal to your tribe. But

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Speaker 2: I'm loyal to the traditions of the National Party and

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Speaker 2: what it stands for. It to liberal Conservative Party is

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Speaker 2: not a conservative party and you've got to stick with it.

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Speaker 1: What about the decorum and Parliament? How you had to

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Speaker 1: feel for Jerry Browne? Yes today rock in a hard place.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Brud, he's big enough to deal with those sorts

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Speaker 2: of things. I don't have any sympathy. He can deal

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 1: What happens with the Select Committee? I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: have this type of rhetoric and this type of display,

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Speaker 1: you know, for six months, how that's a bit disruptive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a disaster rectory. You're going

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Speaker 2: to get the craziest on the right and the craziest

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Speaker 2: on the left coming in and you'll get some sensible submissions,

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Speaker 2: but it's not going to be a particularly pleasant experience.

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Speaker 2: I think James Meaga from ring Ga Tata is going

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Speaker 2: to be cheering it. He's a very capable person. But

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Speaker 2: it puts a lot on the system and be'd have

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Speaker 2: to deal with a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chris, just before we go, you staid at

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Speaker 1: the start of this. You probably wouldn't have gone into

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Speaker 1: government over this issue.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know. I guess. Look I if that's

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Speaker 2: what was communicated, No, I would have adopted perhaps a

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Speaker 2: harder line. I get the I know what Key did

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Speaker 2: over the kilmed X legislation. He just said to next

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Speaker 2: month and me went down this office was not proceeding,

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Speaker 2: and I think Kean would have said to see, well

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Speaker 2: you're not getting it, callers plan and call us buff

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Speaker 2: and the seam where it had a tantrum, and said well,

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Speaker 2: I'll go to the cross benches. I know what Key

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Speaker 2: would have said. He would have said, yeah, fine, do

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Speaker 2: that and I'll standings to you personally and him with

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Speaker 2: the next colection, I'll destroy you. So you've got to

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Speaker 2: be fairly half noted.

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Speaker 1: Apreciations all right, Kristin Lison, it was good to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show. That's former treaty negotiations Minister. Kristin

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Speaker 1: Leason thed.

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