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Speaker 2: Today, the PM on the apology in the Trump call

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Speaker 2: and Jenny do politics Wednesday after late Sea Prince Richard Arnold.

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Speaker 2: They pony up as well Hostle in Louis. Here we

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Speaker 2: of Carmela Harris and the Democratic Party who were equally

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Speaker 2: And how many cracks do you want not to solve

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Speaker 2: My drama in the Church of England as the archbishop quits,

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Speaker 2: Talksb unemployment in the UK four point three percent? Is

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Speaker 10: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Please talk about party time. Look at it, look at

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Speaker 12: Will those green shoots blossom and bloom? Yeah, we've got

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Speaker 10: Months of month on month gains.

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Speaker 12: Yes, the gains are very small, but they are nonetheless gains.

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Speaker 10: There's no real seismic shift here. Mike.

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Speaker 12: I think a read on this is that demand is

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Speaker 10: Yeah, spending there did lift two percent month a month.

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Speaker 10: We've talked about them a lot. Employment or rather unemployment.

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Speaker 12: It is lifting population growth, is slowing and will continue

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Speaker 10: That annual number is that the weakest annual.

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Speaker 12: Light and Heavy Traffic Index good correlation to demand production GDP.

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Speaker 2: Fusion Energy. Do you know what fusion energy is? If

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be talking a fine line here, Mike, isn't me?

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Speaker 2: Or is this hikoy becoming a joke? They're not really

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Speaker 2: creating fusion energy that's the power source that fuels the sun,

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Speaker 2: and billions are being pumped into projects all over the

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Speaker 2: world to recreate this. Open Star Technologies has hit a milestone.

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Speaker 2: Their machines turned on and created first plasma and now

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Speaker 2: on this rud To morning to you waiting, Mike, where

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Speaker 15: So we've picked up this weird concept called levitated dipole.

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Speaker 15: No one's building these things and so that means that

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Speaker 2: What's your big picture, what's your journey? What are you

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Speaker 15: Well, we think this is a way of creating clean,

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Speaker 2: Right, So where are you and the journey with everybody else?

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Speaker 2: Once somebody cracks it, and they will presumably does everyone

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's funny. People always look at us and go, wow,

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Speaker 15: once we crack it, I think, you know, people's imaginations

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Speaker 15: with unlimited energy? You could have a flying car. You

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, that's true. Well I wouldn't mind the lights

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Speaker 2: real because that's where we are at in this country.

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Speaker 2: When you say when we crack it, will it be cracked?

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Speaker 15: I think it will. But I'll be perfectly honest. The

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Speaker 2: How come you've come down this track and others haven't.

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Speaker 2: Are you a genius or are you just trying your luck?

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Speaker 15: I am I trying my luck. Look broadly, the fusion

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm reading in the NBR this morning, there's a

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Speaker 15: Look, there are some pretty great reasons to build it offshore.

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Speaker 15: There are like just legacy infrastructure the northern hemisphere of

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Speaker 15: because I think that's the difference between having a fusion

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more? Go well, well, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Right to Matita, how interesting is that? I bet you

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Speaker 2: being a polluter. So all ab done is done that

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Speaker 2: as far as they can work out with the third world.

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Speaker 2: So you can go out into the world and go

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Speaker 2: pick a country and go, look, well, throw some money

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Speaker 2: and you can feel good about yourself, and apparently that's

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Speaker 2: going to save the planet. Kicking off Cop twenty nine

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Speaker 2: with a backdoor deal sets a poor precedent for transparency

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Speaker 2: and proper governments. So already the critics are out. So

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Speaker 2: ours doesn't work. This won't work. They're just coming up

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Speaker 2: with a whole bunch of stuff that doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: for the third quarter, it increase by seven billion, up

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Speaker 2: to one hundred and seventeen and a half billion dollars

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Speaker 16: Fourteen to two International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 16: Peace of mind for New Zealand business Richard im morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning, Mike Meade, your jobs. Marco's in,

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Speaker 2: isn't he well?

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Speaker 17: Among a rush of names of Trump appointees and likely

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Speaker 17: Trump aids are also signs of some headwinds for Trump,

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Speaker 17: even as he seems to be moving quickly. Yeah, Senator

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Speaker 17: Marco Rubio has been proposed as Secrety of State. Little

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Speaker 17: Marco was Trump used to call him after you know

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Speaker 17: Rubio joked about the size of Trump's private parts, then

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Speaker 17: quickly jumped on board the Trump train. The process is

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Speaker 17: that the Senate votes to confirm cabinet picks, but Trump

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Speaker 17: wants to do away with all that by calling on

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Speaker 17: the Senate to stay home, folks at the start of

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Speaker 17: next year, so only Trump then would make the pick

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Speaker 17: by using what they call recess appointments, which do not

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Speaker 17: require the Senate's approval, So telling the Senate shutdown, Trump

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Speaker 17: will run the show unilaterally. Senator Rick Scott is a

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Speaker 17: trump'ster favored by Elon Musk, who has become Trump's recent

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Speaker 17: Marri Lago dinner partner or whatever. Scott's backs the Senate

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Speaker 17: holiday plan. But here's one of the headwinds. Some of

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Speaker 17: the senators are balking it, being made useless clones in

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Speaker 17: the political system. They're turning against Rick Scott for Senate leaders.

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Speaker 17: So we'll see. Rubio is a China hawk and seen

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Speaker 17: by many in Washington is what passes these days for

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Speaker 17: old school Republican. On the Ukraine War, Rubio has said

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Speaker 17: he is not on Russia's side, but he voted against

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Speaker 17: military aid for Ukraine, and now he's signing on with Trump,

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Speaker 17: who has said on that subject, I will have that.

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Speaker 9: War settled in one day, twenty four hours.

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Speaker 18: I will get it settled before I even become president

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Speaker 18: if I win. When I'm president elect, and what I'll

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Speaker 18: do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other,

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Speaker 18: I'll get them together.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it doesn't much look like that right now, does it.

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Speaker 17: With the war expanding, with North Korean troops brought onto

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Speaker 17: the battlefront now, and with European reports that Putin may

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Speaker 17: have added four more countries to his invasion hit list

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Speaker 17: of Stoney, Olatvia, Lithuandrian Moldova. Those first three the Baltic

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Speaker 17: States and Native members. So those reports in any way serious.

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Speaker 17: Trump Junior just reposted a video mocking Ukraine's President Zelenski,

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Speaker 17: saying quote, you're thirty days away from lou your allowance.

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Speaker 17: Interesting words about a war of national survival in which

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Speaker 17: some eighty thousand Ukrainians have died trying to protect their homeland. Anyway,

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Speaker 17: here's another headwind. An American president cannot unilaterally withdraw from

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Speaker 17: NATO that requires a two thirds vote from both the

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Speaker 17: Senate and the House. House Member Elista Farnik has been

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Speaker 17: chosen for you and Ambassador. She became a vocal Mega

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Speaker 17: supporter during a campaign disputing the Trump election loss in

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Speaker 17: twenty twenty, as she also proposed blocking funding for the

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Speaker 17: UN Agency for Palestinian refugee So much for the Arab

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Speaker 17: Americans in Michigan who voted Trump on the immigration front.

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Speaker 17: Christy Knowam, the South Dakota governor, as to be nominated

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Speaker 17: for Homeland Security. She is the one who lost out

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Speaker 17: as potentially being the Trump running mate after she revealed

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Speaker 17: in her memoir that she shot her dog in a

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Speaker 17: gravel pit when it misbehaved. She said that story was

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Speaker 17: proof she was ready to take action to do whatever

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Speaker 17: needs to be done, no matter quote how difficult, messy,

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Speaker 17: or ugly it may be. Tom Holman is chosen as

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Speaker 17: borders are. Well, there's no such cabinet post borders are

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Speaker 17: what the heck is that?

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Speaker 19: He says, I will run the biggest deportation operations country's

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Speaker 19: ever seen.

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Speaker 20: I'm second tired hearing about the family separation, and I'll

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Speaker 20: still being ssued over that, So come give me.

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Speaker 10: I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 17: He recently spoke at a meeting of something called the

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Speaker 17: Rod of Iron Festival, run by the son of former

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Speaker 17: count leader son Myng Mun Sean Moon, who calls himself

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Speaker 17: King Bullet Headed. Where's a crown made out of ammunition?

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Speaker 17: Lovely look? Moon Junior recently claimed some Jews were behind

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Speaker 17: the terrorist attacks of September the eleventh. The same Jewish

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Speaker 17: Front group he alleges, who were involved in World.

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Speaker 11: War Two helped engineer the takedown of Hitler. Things that

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Speaker 11: I see it just makes me shake my head after

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Speaker 11: what they've.

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Speaker 8: Programmed is that people going to learn a lot about

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Speaker 8: World War Two and Hitler and the Nazis.

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Speaker 11: They don't learn about Hitler was actually fighting the same

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Speaker 11: people that we're trying to take down today.

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Speaker 17: Not clear what role RFK Junior will have. He says

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Speaker 17: he wants to sack some six hundred scientists at the

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Speaker 17: National Institutes of Health. If there is a Senate confirmation

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Speaker 17: hearing for rf well, that'd.

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Speaker 10: Be a doozy.

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Speaker 17: He has a very very very colorful history. Environment EPA

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Speaker 17: goes to Lee Zelden, who says he plans to gut

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Speaker 17: climate rules. Elon Musk jumped in on that Trump phone

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Speaker 17: call the other day with Ukraine's lanscap. We've never seen

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Speaker 17: anything like that from a private citizen. Musk also has

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Speaker 17: speculated about abolishing the US Central Bank. The Federal reserved

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Speaker 17: your own power. The FED chair says the President has

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Speaker 17: no power to fire him. You know, the last time

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Speaker 17: Trump got in his National Security advisor, now to be

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Speaker 17: Mike Waltz lasted for two weeks. That was Mike Flinn,

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Speaker 17: while former Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilk was forced out

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Speaker 17: amid claims he tried to cover up a sex scandal.

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Speaker 17: He's now been reappointed by President elect Trump.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's twenty sixteen again. You could see

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold stateside nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: Mike costkil breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities news.

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Speaker 2: Dogs head be breaking the environment the best bit of

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Speaker 2: legal news this morning. A Dutch court has dismissed this

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Speaker 2: climate ruling against Shells. So this is the latest twist.

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Speaker 2: It was a president setter in everyone went what this was.

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty one, the Hague District Court ruled that

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Speaker 2: Shell must reduce the greenhouse gas gas emissions by forty

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Speaker 2: five percent from twenty nineteen levels by twenty thirty. They

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Speaker 2: took that to appeal rightly. So while Shell is required

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Speaker 2: to reduce its carbon emissions, it could not determine the

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Speaker 2: extent of those cuts. The case therefore has been entirely dismissed.

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Speaker 2: They also said the company was responsible for all the

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Speaker 2: missions in the original case across the value chain, including

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Speaker 2: those from the products they sell. That's called scope three emissions.

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Speaker 2: But essentially everything that you ever did and whatever it

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Speaker 2: got turned into was on you, which of course was ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It was the first time in history that a company

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Speaker 2: was found to have been legally obliged to align its

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Speaker 2: policies with the Paris Agreement as well. So anyway, they

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Speaker 2: went to the appeals court and the appeals court said

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Speaker 2: toss it out. The thinking now is it may go

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Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court. Five away from seven.

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Speaker 14: Well, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now let's have a look at the fun world of insurance.

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't love insurance? Home care, contents, life premiums all

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Speaker 2: gone up? Of course, it's in a way really it

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Speaker 2: makes you WinCE all furious. So we've gotten you insight

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Speaker 2: this morning. It's a Treasury survey. Now the survey part

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Speaker 2: will come back to Apartment owners seem to have been

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Speaker 2: hit the hardest. The average annual MUB multi unit building

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Speaker 2: insurance premium in Wellington alone has increased fifty eight percent

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Speaker 2: between twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three, four years. Fifty

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Speaker 2: eight percent. The average cost eight thousand, two hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: which is three times the average premium per a standalone home.

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Speaker 2: In Auckland, your premiums double to eighteen hundred dollars. So

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Speaker 2: for context, the average cost of any kind of home

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Speaker 2: insurance between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three went up

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Speaker 2: thirty percent, So thirty percent versus fifty eight percent in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent in Auckland. That's how mad it is

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Speaker 2: being in a multi unit building, Treasury admits. And this

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Speaker 2: is the survey bit that's tricky. There's a bit of leeway.

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Speaker 2: It's an opt in survey. And the problem with opt

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Speaker 2: in surveys, of course is the only people who opt

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Speaker 2: in and the people who are vpable. So if you've

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Speaker 2: got an insurance, if you're in your multi unit building

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Speaker 2: and you've got your insurance premium, you went, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to take part in that, sir, ry, don't you worry.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem. Although they suggest the high insurance

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Speaker 2: premiums could hinder center's city centers and even the government's

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Speaker 2: policies for more housing density. Wellington's unique given the earthquake situation,

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Speaker 2: of course, but nevertheless, you know, big builder is a

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Speaker 2: big building. You can't run from it, can you. I've

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Speaker 2: got news on Operation Nickel, and you're going, what's Operation Nickel? Well,

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Speaker 2: I've got good news around that. It's got to do

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Speaker 2: with the gangs and the police are all over that.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to the police about that very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday's phone call with Donald Trump, we've got the sweep

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Speaker 2: steak on it. I said it started at eight fourteen.

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Speaker 2: We're supposed to start at seven forty, Sam said eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Glenn said eight twenty. Glenn's also questioning whether it ever

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Speaker 2: happened at all, which is not a bad question to

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Speaker 2: ask in these and these these troubled and interesting times. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Christoph luckson on that in slightly more important matters as

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Speaker 2: well politics Wednesday after rate Mark Mitchell and Jenny Anderson meantime,

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Speaker 2: The News is Next to News Talk said.

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Speaker 1: They used bold opinions, the mic asking breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: range rover, the la designed to intrigue, can use talks.

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Speaker 2: Dead be seven past seven. So as the laws around

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Speaker 2: gang's change in a bit over a week, that's your

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Speaker 2: gang patches, signs and signia and public places, all of

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, it becomes illegal. The police have

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Speaker 2: disruption units ready to go as part of the new

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Speaker 2: nationwide scheme Operation Nickel in Operation Nickel National Control of

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Speaker 2: Paul Basham's with us, Paul, Morning to you, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: how big is the resource.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's for the whole police resource with the Sisational

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Speaker 20: Game Units in the King Disruption Units, which is SUCER

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Speaker 20: one hundred police officers. But it's much bigger than that

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Speaker 20: because we will bring effect from the twenty first of November,

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Speaker 20: which will be a whole police approach to Operation Nickel.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to go Bobby on the beat, just

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Speaker 2: doing his thing, and then all of a sudden he

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Speaker 2: sees a gang go right, we're into Operation Nicola. Is

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Speaker 2: that how it works?

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Speaker 20: Definitely. We've been spending the last six months, you know,

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Speaker 20: intensively preparing for the legislation dropping on the twenty first

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Speaker 20: the whole of the stuff that had to happen in

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Speaker 20: the background to enable the effect, training and ICT and

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Speaker 20: all that sort of stuff. But more importantly, we've been

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Speaker 20: out engaging with various parties and interested groups to sort

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Speaker 20: of really project that certainty of enforcement from the twenty

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Speaker 20: first of November. So we've spent quite a bit of

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Speaker 20: time so educating and encouraging and projecting that from the

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Speaker 20: twenty first of November of people and breach of the

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Speaker 20: law as it relates to this legislation, and were living

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Speaker 20: to some.

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Speaker 2: Forth quite in the morning. Was it four hundred or

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Speaker 2: four thousand meetings?

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Speaker 20: No, not four thousand, that would be ambitious, but we

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Speaker 20: had a list of around four hundred and twenty four

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Speaker 20: hundred and fifty meetings to try and do up and

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Speaker 20: down the country, you know, and furtherance of that educating

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Speaker 20: courage of their engagement piece, we've done pretty much most

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Speaker 20: of that, and you know the so that was a

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Speaker 20: number of things encourage you to get but also to

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Speaker 20: be projecting that kind of organizational posture which is in

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Speaker 20: lign with the government's priorities and the commissioners' priorities, which is,

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Speaker 20: if you break the law from the twenty fifths of

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Speaker 20: then we will move to enforcement and it will be

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Speaker 20: pretty black and white in that posture.

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Speaker 2: How proactive versus reactive are you're going to be, Well,

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Speaker 2: the whole.

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Speaker 20: Point of establishing the game disruption units across the twelfth

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Speaker 20: districts is to still step into that proactive posture. So

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Speaker 20: you know, it's inevitable that you know, we will be

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Speaker 20: responding to reports of gangs breaking the law, but you know,

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Speaker 20: in addition to that, those units will be proactive getting intelligence,

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Speaker 20: looking to work with other police units and taking opportunities

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Speaker 20: to sort of fill their mandate which is in liign

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Speaker 20: with the purpose of the act, which is reduce the

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Speaker 20: ability of gangs to operate and to cause fear and

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Speaker 20: indimidation and disruption by the public. So as units really

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Speaker 20: clear in terms of what the purposes and from the

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Speaker 20: Fest of November, they'll be inter it I think too.

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Speaker 20: You know, you'll see them, you know, sharpening their tradecraft

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Speaker 20: and their skills relative to the provisions of this legislation.

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Speaker 20: And so we just see it as an awesome tool

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Speaker 20: to allow us to continue the work that we do.

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Speaker 20: Pretty much happened down the country every day anyway in

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Speaker 20: the way that we plus.

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Speaker 2: The gangs good stuff. Well, I think most of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's probably on your side on this one. Paul Basham,

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Speaker 2: who's the Police Assistant Commissioner and Operation Deical National CORO Controller.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes past seven after the apology, Prime minters to

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Speaker 2: come after seven thirty after the apology comes to redress.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you can already sense the feelings around the

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Speaker 2: art working so that the abuse and state care survivors

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Speaker 2: are waiting for the government's next steps and what they

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Speaker 2: look like. Criminal Barrister former Lake allis detainee. Rosemary Thompson

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Speaker 2: is well, there's Rosemary. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 21: It's Kira Mike.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Can I first of all acknowledge all the survivors of

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Speaker 3: the institutional abuse in New Zealand and which includes those

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Speaker 3: are still with us and those and alonger with us.

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Speaker 3: And also I'd like to acknowledge all those who have

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Speaker 3: fought over the years for justice, and some have been

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Speaker 3: fighting for nearly half a century. And these include survivors

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Speaker 3: but also importantly supporters, including journalists. Now, in terms of

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Speaker 3: the apology yesterday, there's no criticism of the apology. It's

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Speaker 3: very falsome as really, as you say, what happens next?

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Speaker 3: And the response by the survivors to the apology really

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Speaker 3: falls into two camps. Where those who are cynthical, who

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Speaker 3: do not believe there's going to be meaningful redress based

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Speaker 3: on the fact there's been no action in the past,

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Speaker 3: and those are prepared to give the government the benefit

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Speaker 3: of the doubt and want to see what happens in

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Speaker 3: the new year.

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Speaker 2: What do you do though, I mean, I have absolutely

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Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that this government is good

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Speaker 2: to its word. You may not like what they come

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Speaker 2: up with, but they're good to their words. Surely most

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Speaker 2: of us would agree with that, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 21: Oh, absolutely would agree with that. But both camps would

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Speaker 21: agree that redress is urgent because the survivors getting older

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Speaker 21: and in general they're not in good health. As I said,

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Speaker 21: obviously it's appropriate to give the government benefit of the doubt,

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Speaker 21: and they've got that opportunity, and that asked that they'd

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Speaker 21: be given to the new year to work on redress.

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Speaker 21: And ultimately it remains to be seen, obviously, but it's

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Speaker 21: important because it was, as you say, it was given

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Speaker 21: in good faith in Parliament by the Prime Minister, supported

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Speaker 21: by Sydney cabinet ministers, and supported by the leader of

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Speaker 21: the Opposition. And as I said, give them the benefit

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Speaker 21: of the doubt and look forward to positive resolution.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will get the Prome Minister to tell you

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Speaker 2: when that's coming. After seven thirty this morning, Rosemary appreciated

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Speaker 2: at Rosemary Thompson, whose criminal barrister, former lake elis detaining.

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Speaker 2: I think you'd be churlish, and some people are to

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Speaker 2: be frank that yesterday was in any way, shape or

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Speaker 2: form anything other than hand on heart, the right and

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Speaker 2: proper thing to do and delivered with dignity twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven, around small amount of reportage. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to spend too much time on it based on the

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Speaker 2: fact it's very much like Cop twenty nine. Wayne wants

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Speaker 2: to is the mayor of Auckland. He wants a quote

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Speaker 2: unquote massive show cup of council controlled organization CEOs. This

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Speaker 2: is your famed Auckland Transport, your tar Taki Auckland unlimited,

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Speaker 2: your par Nuku Auckland. All the government agencies or council

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Speaker 2: agencies that cause Auckland is so much difficulty and problem

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Speaker 2: and expense. He wants to get rid of the lot

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Speaker 2: of them. He's got a big bowl planned to get

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Speaker 2: rid of the lot of them. The reason I'm going

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Speaker 2: to spend no more time on it, sadly is it's

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Speaker 2: never going to happen. Wish it would. Isn't going to

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Speaker 2: happen though. Thirteen Fast The.

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Speaker 2: At be Mordie Mike, we vote for change in Auckland

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Speaker 2: with Brown as the mayor. The other councilors need to

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Speaker 2: get on the same page. Unfortunately, that's not how it

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Speaker 2: works in a fright. A lot of people think mayors

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Speaker 2: had pals. They don't. Sixteen past seven fields like the

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Speaker 2: country got a little bit on at the moment of

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Speaker 2: perfect day for the Cup yesterday, follow the Trotting Cup

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Speaker 2: and christ your fabulous Pearl Jam. We're here last weekend

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Speaker 2: in Auckland three nights as well as of tonight for

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Speaker 2: Cold played Eden Park. We've got new massive university research

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Speaker 2: that says for every dollar spent on live warmans is

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Speaker 2: three dollars twenty is returned and benefits to the community.

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Speaker 2: So that's encouraging that Eden part boss Nick Sautner is

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Speaker 2: back with us. Nick, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning Mike, and thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: Not at all have you checked the stage that he

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Speaker 2: doesn't fall through it like you did in Melbourne.

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Speaker 18: I can assure you that the diligence has been undertaken

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Speaker 18: by Live Nation. We're looking forward to three massive shows,

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Speaker 18: the biggest in our history and the biggest rock pand

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Speaker 18: of all time.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, where does it sit. Is

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Speaker 2: this the biggest thing you will have done in terms

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Speaker 2: of concert.

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Speaker 18: Yes, certainly, three sold out shows over four days. It's

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Speaker 18: probably our biggest event in the stadium's history. When you

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Speaker 18: look tonight's shows, one hundred and seventy third in Coldplay's

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Speaker 18: Music of the Sweetness Sears tour.

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Speaker 11: Billboard ever say, I.

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Speaker 18: Call them the biggest rock band of all time and

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Speaker 18: there we're just so delighted and excited. This too has

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Speaker 18: been going since March twenty twenty two, and looking at

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Speaker 18: the rehearsals last night, it'll be something that people will

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Speaker 18: never forget.

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Speaker 2: What's the what's just sold out at Eton Park mean

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Speaker 2: for a concert light there's how many you're talking per night,

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Speaker 2: So we're.

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Speaker 18: Looking to see over fifty thousand fans.

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Speaker 2: Three nights.

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Speaker 18: It'll be plus plus that. On the weekend, we're anticipating

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Speaker 18: to have greater than that attendance with' gate opening from

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Speaker 18: five pm, so we're just encouraging people to arrive early

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Speaker 18: be part of the atmosphere. Awkand's a great city and

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Speaker 18: Eden Park is a fantastic const venue.

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Speaker 2: Weather and track Friday is a dog. That's the problem, Mike,

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Speaker 2: It's the Garden of Eden.

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Speaker 18: I've already been talking to our manager. We think it'll

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Speaker 18: go through. The weather's looking great today. Friday and Saturday

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Speaker 18: Fridays there's a better rat about. But we're confident, battle

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Speaker 18: clear early and we'll be able to put on a

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Speaker 18: show that the world is watching.

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Speaker 2: That dollar and three dollars twenty back. Do you believe that.

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Speaker 18: Without a doubt. And we've also got to look at

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Speaker 18: the economic benefit but also the mental health, the escapism

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Speaker 18: the bars and restaurants around this area where the it

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Speaker 18: be in Kingsland, Morningside, Dominion Road or mount and all

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Speaker 18: the hotels are full. The residents are lighting up the

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Speaker 18: streets with lighting to just embrace the event. Three thousand

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Speaker 18: jobs created today at the venue alone, all our bus drivers,

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Speaker 18: train drivers, et cetera getting an extra shift. So this

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Speaker 18: is massive for Auckland and New Zealand. It is a

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Speaker 18: great city and we've got to embrace major events. The

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Speaker 18: pipeline of events that have come through Eden Park over

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Speaker 18: the last three years, with the Women's World Cups, now Coldplay,

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Speaker 18: Metallica sold out next year. Luke colmbs, we've got a

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Speaker 18: wonderful come of events, but we want to do more

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Speaker 18: for the city.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, go well with it, enjoy it. Nick Suortaner,

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Speaker 2: who is the Eden Park CEO, don't text me that

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Speaker 2: Colbert Play are the biggest band of the world. I

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Speaker 2: know they're not. I don't think anyone would.

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Speaker 22: Describe Yeah, are they in fact a rock band at all?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a good question. Would they'd be top teen though,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't they in the ability?

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Speaker 22: I mean they're a band.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're certainly about I love cold playing.

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Speaker 22: And they're very good. Do they play rock music?

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Speaker 2: How many? Yeah, that's debatable. How many bands could sell

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Speaker 2: three nights of fifty per night? One hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 2: The last big Adele was big. She did three times

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Speaker 2: forty or forty five.

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Speaker 22: We've we've done the research. This is, in fact the

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Speaker 22: biggest tour it.

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Speaker 2: Is so nothing has ever come to the country that's

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Speaker 2: bigger than this. While there you go, they're the biggest

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Speaker 2: for now, they're the biggest.

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Speaker 11: Men.

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Speaker 22: I'm just questioning the rock part, that's more.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, what are you gonna do with your tickets on

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Speaker 2: Friday of it's raining? Hey?

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Speaker 22: When you're not mate, mate, it's about it's about the

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Speaker 22: mental health.

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Speaker 2: It's the mental health. To night's fine, Saturday's fine, but

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Speaker 2: you've got tickets for Friday when it's raining.

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Speaker 22: Hey, next says it's not going to be raining. It's

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Speaker 22: gonna be They've They've sorted it out.

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Speaker 2: at seven twenty four. Got an EV question for you,

882
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: but first, I've got the latest news from around the world,

883
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: e being news from around the world. In this sen

884
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: are laying off thousands of workers. Toyota have said this

885
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: week that the California regulations around EV's and engines and

886
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: emissions are unworkable. Trump's arrived, of course, a tariffs are

887
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: an issue there and his EV. In Britain, they are

888
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: now discounting EV's by a thirty three percent off because

889
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: of rules that make manufacturers sell a certain number of

890
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: evs and if you don't sell that many, you'll then

891
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: find so sales here, of course, are dire. Sales of

892
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: cars is past month are up. Last month was the

893
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: second best month of the year for sales, apart from evs,

894
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: which sold next to none. So here's the question, what

895
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: are they going to do? See? Under normal market circumstances,

896
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: a product lives and dies on demand, doesn't it, think

897
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: about it? Demand can waiver prices are adjusted accordingly, models

898
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: are updated, marketing is refreshed to fizz up demand or awareness.

899
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: But ultimately, if something doesn't have a customer, it dies.

900
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: EV's don't appear to have a customer base. They did

901
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: to a degree when government subsidize them, but that I

902
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: suspect simply gave early adopters a cheaper ride. It's not

903
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: like you can't get a good deal now, because you can.

904
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: But even with a cheap price, they still can't sell them.

905
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: People in bulk simply don't want them. So what's made

906
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: this unique is, of course, the manufacturers have been fought

907
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: into producing something I suspect they knew wouldn't work. They

908
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: would have been way way quicker to bail on a

909
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: failed product if they hadn't had governments all over the

910
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: world lecturing them and hectoring them and changing the laws

911
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: and forcing them into a business that looks like it's

912
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: going nowhere fast. So the question is just what needs

913
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: to be done to either one increase sales or two

914
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: kill off the whole idea and come back another day

915
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: with something different. See, you can't force people into something

916
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: they don't want, and the lack of sales shows this.

917
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Is the truth. Are they going to ban regular cars,

918
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: No they are not. Are they going to subsidize them forever?

919
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: No they are not. Are jobs going to be lost?

920
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Bottom line is going to bleed red, factories closed because

921
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: of all of this? Yes, So who blinks first? I

922
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: think that this is where we've got to. I think

923
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: who blinks first? The idea logues or the realists? Pasking

924
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: my plate interview with Nick. This is the kind of

925
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: stuff we need happening to kickstarter economy from the mud.

926
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: It's stuck in. Create something people will rally around. That's

927
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 2: a very good point. Mike idro from Auckland to Queenstown

928
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: over the last two days. That's impressive because that's a

929
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Speaker 2: big drive. Tourism's back campus everywhere, not a motel room

930
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Speaker 2: between christ Church and Queenstone. And I'd take a you

931
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Speaker 2: don't mean literally, but it's a very good sign because

932
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: I read an article about Japanese tourism that I'll get

933
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: to you later if I get time through the roof.

934
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: They're going into autumn now, the call the months that

935
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: normally dies down, no sign of it dying down. I

936
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: mean the numbers they are welcoming into Japan just absolutely

937
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: going gangbusters and we're stuck at eighty percent. Mike Pearl

938
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: Jam could have done three. No, they couldn't do you

939
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: know how? I know that because if they could have

940
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: done three, they would have because the sole purpose of

941
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: touring is to make some money. And if they go,

942
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Speaker 2: I reckon you could do three in Awkland A lot.

943
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 22: Of people who went twice, and I do wonder if

944
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 22: they did do three, whether they would have gone three times.

945
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Well, then they need somebody like you Glin to oversee

946
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 2: their marketing operation.

947
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 13: Because they are a rock band. If they are a

948
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 13: rock band, what about that? Isn't that a bit of rock?

949
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 13: You know when it builds up.

950
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: That gets you going it? But doesn't it well?

951
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 22: Getting me wrong? I love coal Play.

952
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Who doesn't love col A Message Cold?

953
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 22: I just don't think it's rock.

954
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: He talked to the fans before he left Melbourne. He

955
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: went over through the fence talk to the fans, and

956
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: then he kissed the runway before he left, which makes

957
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: them unusual, But we love unusual. Otherwise you wouldn't be

958
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: listening with us.

959
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: What do they call us?

960
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: Christopher Luxum, We've got a sweep on how long you

961
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: talk to Trump? At what time the call started. This

962
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: is the biggest this is the important. Yes, we'll get

963
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: the other stuff, but we need to have sort of

964
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: sweep out. So Christopher lux and with us after the news,

965
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: which is next here at news.

966
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: TOGSZB demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic

967
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

968
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: commercial and rural News Togs dead be.

969
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from eight Mark and Junny after

970
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: eight Politics Wednesday, of course, but because of yesterday, are

971
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: we need to make up time? Prime Minister Christopher Luckson

972
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: with us.

973
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 6: Good morning, Well, good morning Mike.

974
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 10: Listen.

975
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 7: Apologies about yesterday, but I want to say I'm back

976
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 7: on the show today with your beautiful show, with your

977
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 7: big audience and your big host. It's wonderful to be

978
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 7: with you.

979
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Have you been talking to Donald Trump per chance?

980
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the reason I didn't come on the show yesterday,

981
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 7: as you know. But apologies for that because no need,

982
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 7: no need for apologies. Straight from that show into national apology.

983
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: If it had been the Prime Minister of Australia, I

984
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: would have been offended. But the President of the United states,

985
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: of course, I can call it right sweet stake sweep

986
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: steak time. I said the call was due to start

987
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: at seven forty. I said it started at eight fourteen.

988
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Sam says eighteen, Glenn says eight twenty.

989
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think Sam might be on the money.

990
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 7: Eighteen was delayed and there's a lot going on on

991
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 7: their site as they sort of go through those four

992
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 7: thousand appointments, and it was very decent. I'm actually to

993
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 7: take time out. So yes, it did start, it later

994
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 7: than anticipated, which is why we were in late with you.

995
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying eighteen was it and Sam's the winner?

996
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 6: Eight ten? Yepkay?

997
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: Did he use the term at any point? I know

998
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: you can't talk about what was on the phone call,

999
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: I get that, but did he use the term at

1000
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: any point? Drill baby, drill?

1001
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 6: No, he didn't.

1002
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 7: What we did is I congratulated him on what was,

1003
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 7: you know, obviously a very decisive and comprehensive win. You

1004
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 7: just reflecting on it, Ah, I don't think even Reagan

1005
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 7: or Bush Senior won what were the trifector of the

1006
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 7: three branches of government there, But you know, that was

1007
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 7: an incredibly massive win, and I wanted to acknowledge that

1008
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 7: congratulate him on that.

1009
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 6: He had was a very warm It was really a

1010
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 6: relationship call.

1011
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 7: We hadn't met before and it was clear to me,

1012
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 7: you know, he was very warm, he was looking forward

1013
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 7: to catching up in person and due course, and also

1014
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 7: you know the current perception of New Zealand is actually

1015
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 7: very positive and also of our government. So you know,

1016
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 7: it was a good, good call and we talked on

1017
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 7: touched very briefly on some global conflicts, working to get

1018
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 7: him into a Pacific and then discussed economic conditions really

1019
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 7: in the US and also in New Zealand.

1020
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Did you get a word in edgeways?

1021
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it was good.

1022
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 7: It was really good. Actually it was a good two

1023
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 7: way conversation. And then again I was impressed that he

1024
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 7: knew about New Zealand and he has a very favorable

1025
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 7: impression of New Zealand as a country, which is fantastic.

1026
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: Did he use the word Bob Charles, No, there was

1027
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: no Bob Charles mentioned Lydia co. No golf courses. Golf

1028
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: courses yes, okay, did he name a golf course no,

1029
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: So he said, you really have had a sweep state.

1030
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: They've been running a tea Oh, yeah, no, no, no,

1031
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: I need to pay the mortgage this month. I was

1032
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: hoping that winter Monthy. Now, listen to more serious man.

1033
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 6: I'm on Your interest rates are coming down, Mike, I.

1034
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: Yes they are now. As to yesterday, of all the

1035
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: things you've done so far as Prime Minister, where did

1036
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: yesterday sit for you?

1037
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 14: Oh?

1038
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 7: Yesterday was a pretty tough day. It was pretty emotional day.

1039
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 7: You're facing up to, you know, you know, wide scale

1040
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 7: abuse with tens of thousands of people that was impacted

1041
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 7: from events that in some cases were up to seventy

1042
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 7: years ago. And you have spent time with the survivors

1043
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 7: and I can tell you incredible people, but just incredible Yeah,

1044
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 7: just sad, harrowing stories to be honest. I've actually read

1045
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 7: all three thousand pages of the Royal Commission of Inquiry

1046
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 7: into State Abuse, and you know, I just encourage anyone

1047
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 7: if you want to understand what's really gone on and

1048
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 7: sort of actually do want to understand a bit more,

1049
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 7: you go read one of those accounts, with a couple

1050
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 7: of those accounts and you'll get a sense of how

1051
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 7: the state didn't look after the most vulnerable people in

1052
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 7: New Zealand at that time very well. So you know,

1053
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 7: you feel a huge weight of responsibility because you're speaking

1054
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 7: for the current government, but you're also speaking on behalf

1055
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 7: of all previous governments that have come before, of all

1056
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 7: different persuasions, and so yeah, that's why it was good

1057
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 7: that myself and Chrysipkins were able to defront and to

1058
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 7: be able to represent past down current governments and in

1059
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 7: their future.

1060
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: Lies your dilemma though, because already somebody called it a

1061
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: PR stunt yesterday and you've opened a can of worms.

1062
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming you for anything, but I mean there's

1063
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: a tremendous expectation building that you're writing some checks and

1064
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: no matter what you do, there's going to be disappointment.

1065
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: I take it you're cognizant of that. You're in a boy.

1066
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, here's the situation. I mean, we've

1067
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 7: had a six year raw Commission of Inquiry. It's been

1068
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 7: our most complex longest we've ever had. You've got sixteen volumes,

1069
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 7: you've got three thousand pages, you've got one hundred and

1070
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 7: thirty recommendations and this report ninety five and an interim report.

1071
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 7: A huge amount of complexity right over a huge amount

1072
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 7: of time, with a massive set of individualized circumstances.

1073
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Speaker 6: Of wide scale abuse. So you know that's the starting point.

1074
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 7: So it is messy and it is difficult and it

1075
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 7: is hard, but we actually have to talk about that

1076
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 7: and we have to put some sunlight on that. So

1077
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 7: then the question is you've got to do three things.

1078
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 7: I think one is your first and foremost have to

1079
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 7: acknowledge it, which is why the report needed to be

1080
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 7: tabled in July finally and brought to light. You need

1081
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 7: to have a formal apology. The second thing is we've

1082
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 7: got to support the survivors. And thirdly, we have to

1083
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 7: importantly prevent that abuse from happening again and upgrade all

1084
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 7: of the practices across the agency. So look, no doubt

1085
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 7: about it. It is difficult, it is messy. We will

1086
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Speaker 7: not satisfy meet everybody's expectations as we go through it.

1087
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 7: On the financial redress thing, Mike, it's quite I don't

1088
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 7: think most New Zealanders would be aware, but for twenty

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00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 7: years now there has been a financial redress claims system

1090
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 7: in place and four thousand survivors have had their claims

1091
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 7: addressed through that. There's three and a half thousand in

1092
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 7: the system currently and what we have had is feedback

1093
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 7: from the Royal Commission that can take up to four

1094
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 7: to five years, and that is part of the process.

1095
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 7: Isn't very efficient or very fair or very good. We

1096
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 7: think we can improve that in the short term, but

1097
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 7: then we do have to move to one single independent

1098
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 7: financial redress system, and that is complex and hard because yes,

1099
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 7: we're dealing with difficult economic times for New Zealand, but

1100
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 7: you're also dealing with acknowledging that no amount of money

1101
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 7: frankly makes any of this abuse acceptable on any dimension.

1102
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 7: So you know, it's starting from those points and then

1103
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 7: having to find a way to work your way practically

1104
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Speaker 7: through it.

1105
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: Give me a time, when will they know?

1106
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 6: Erica and I are working.

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00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 7: Really hard to make sure that we can do it

1108
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 7: in early twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five, and so the first half of twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and you know, we'll go as fast as

1111
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 6: we possibly can to deal with that.

1112
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 7: But you know, there is a bit of you know,

1113
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 7: there's quite a lot of design work to be done

1114
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 7: as to you know, eligibility, how you actually administ the system.

1115
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: At the moment, the claims process comes through four different

1116
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 7: government agencies, you know, how for MSD or OT or

1117
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 7: Education and it's variable, and some do it faster and

1118
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 7: some do it slower, and then the payments are different,

1119
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 7: and so you know, there's there's a whole bunch of

1120
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Speaker 7: complexity to work through.

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Speaker 6: As we sought that system out.

1122
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: Only got sixty seconds left a peck anything tangible or not.

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Speaker 7: It's going to be interesting, Mike coming You've got a

1124
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 7: US president at the end of the term, You've got

1125
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 7: the Chinese president there. I will sit down with a

1126
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 7: one on one bilateral with President she which I'm looking

1127
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 7: forward to, you know. And it's a difficult time because

1128
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 7: you know, we have strong advocates for free trade and

1129
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 7: you've got many other countries around the world that have

1130
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 7: been moving away from that US and China, and so

1131
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 7: I'm really interested in my first one to see whether

1132
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 7: we can make the case for you know, good trading

1133
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 7: principles that we can excite the other twenty one countries around.

1134
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: Oh quickly, sorry, almost forgot the fair Digital News Bargaining Bill.

1135
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: Is it dead in the water? It was supposed to

1136
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: be on the paperwork today it's not. It's vanished. Is

1137
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: it dead?

1138
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1139
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 7: No, Look, that's really a question for Paul Goldsmith. I

1140
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 7: tasked him with that role to work his way through

1141
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 7: that issue.

1142
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: But what did you tell you when you see it's

1143
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: not on the thing today, Paul, No.

1144
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 7: That's just us juggling some other things around that we

1145
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 7: want to get through before the end of the year.

1146
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 7: As I've got these forty three actions that I'm pushing

1147
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 7: pretty hard. I've got a few of them coming in

1148
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 7: the last two weeks of the year, so I'm pushing minutes.

1149
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,959
Speaker 7: It is still your life, surely, Yeah, still life.

1150
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 6: And he's working his way through it.

1151
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 10: I know he is.

1152
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 6: He'll pop up and have more to say about it, surely, right.

1153
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: Appreciate you time. Christpher luxem Ployments seven.

1154
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Five The Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

1155
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 1: Now it'd by News Talks.

1156
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: It be Mike Quarren Central a Tiger and eighty percent

1157
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: of previous tourist numbers as any amount. Thank you. I

1158
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: take your point, Mike with the evs. No one wants

1159
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: to waste time to fill up a car. Takes you

1160
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: under a minute to fill a car with an EV

1161
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: It's a round two or three hours. It's the age

1162
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: old problem, of course, Mike. What are the actual stats

1163
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: of sales of EV's there seems to be heaps on

1164
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: the north shore of Auckland. There are, but those are

1165
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: people who bought cars previously. Mike Warren here GM of

1166
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: byd New Zealand. Globally, EV sales are up this year.

1167
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: What you're seeing is a big decline and legacy car

1168
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: make REB sales because the technology is bad b Why

1169
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'd argue with that byd are hiring their

1170
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: one millionth employee. They sold in delivered over half a

1171
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: million plug in vehicles last month alone. Sixty eight percent

1172
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: of all EB sold in the world come from China.

1173
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: The other Western brands are behind. I think you'll find

1174
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: EV sales in the States are up as well, particularly

1175
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: from the Korean brands. What I know from the New

1176
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: Zealand numbers, and they came out the other day just

1177
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: just for October. There were twelve five hundred and seventy

1178
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: one cars sold in October New second strongest month of

1179
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: the year, so that part's encouraging. EV's went backwards last month.

1180
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: This is from the TO Trade Association. You only sold

1181
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty three Ford Mustang marquees byd at

1182
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 2: O three fifty nine of them sold in a month.

1183
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: Bebs fell from their twenty percent share of the market

1184
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: in October of twenty twenty three to six point eight percent,

1185
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: so they're going backwards in this country. The interesting thing is,

1186
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: and this is out of an EV show that was

1187
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: happening this week or is happening this week, an Australia

1188
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: guy called Jason Clark, who's the head of True EV.

1189
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: He says, what's going to happen is a lot of

1190
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: these brands are going to vanish. So you're seeing some

1191
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: of these new car car brands come into the market,

1192
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: both Australia and New Zealand. There are two hundred EV

1193
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: brands in China currently. He thinks only seven of them

1194
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: will survive. So you're going to see one hundred and

1195
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: ninety three car makers vanish. And what that means is

1196
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: we're going to have to adjust our thinking. If you're

1197
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: going to buy a Chinese EV. I'd never buy a

1198
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: Chinese EV personally, but if you're going to have to

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Speaker 2: think of a car as a fridge, or a television

1200
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: or a pair of socks. In other words, when you

1201
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: go back to buy a new one and it's not

1202
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: there anymore, you'll have to go up, Well, I'll go

1203
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: buy something else because we're emotionally are holden exactly like

1204
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: when you go into a hold and see I mean

1205
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: that's you say holden because how many legacy brands have disappeared?

1206
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: If you I mean, can you tell me there's one

1207
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety seven legacy brands disappearing? No, because they haven't.

1208
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: And that's the difference. And so suddenly your investment of

1209
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 2: fifty sixty seventy eighty ninety thousand dollars that you bought

1210
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: into isn't going to be there anymore because they're going

1211
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: to collapse. One day they're there, one day they're not.

1212
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: So it's going to be interesting to see how that's unfold.

1213
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: Citrons already leaving this country, Reno's leaving this country, not

1214
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: completely because they can't compete with the sales. So the market,

1215
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: the car market in general, is a major upheaval at

1216
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: the moment. So it's going to be fascinated to watch

1217
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 2: how it unfolds. But I go back to my earlier

1218
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: question that I raised, given EV sales aren't selling in

1219
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: places like New Zealand, America, Australia, et cetera. They're not

1220
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: increasing in the way they thought. What happens next when

1221
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: you do count something as they are in Britain by

1222
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: thirty three percent and you still can't sell it? What

1223
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: happens next? Nither way?

1224
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Thee my costume, breakfast with the Ranger rover, the line

1225
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: use TODV.

1226
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: Just let me finish off my ev rent This morning

1227
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: Queensland Racetrack, Ipswich, willow Bank Raceway. After careful consideration an investigation,

1228
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: Willowbank Raceway has decided we can no longer allow road

1229
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: registered fully electric vehicles to race or test at Willowbank Raceway.

1230
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: Risks associated with racing and testing electric vehicles is too high.

1231
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: We will continue to allow hybrid vehicles to run. The

1232
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: chassis remaining electrified without an easy access isolations which are

1233
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: on the outside is of problem. Specific fire suppression systems

1234
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: required to extinguish an EV fire. That's a major problem.

1235
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: Electric vehicles not being able to roll with the power

1236
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: is connected. So if you want to race your rev

1237
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: in Ipswich, you're out of luck. Meantime, Lamborghini globally of

1238
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: have announced they've sold more cars than they've ever sold

1239
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: in their sixty year history in the first nine months

1240
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four eighty four hundred people around the

1241
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: world have got anywhere between I'm guessing a six seven,

1242
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: eight hundred nine hundred thousand a million dollars for a

1243
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: car they've never sold, and not one of them is

1244
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: there will be. There's one coming that is electric, but

1245
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: the rest of them aren't. They all got big engines

1246
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: that go braun while I'm Gary Luniker. I don't know

1247
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: if you're really interested in Gary Luneker and Match of

1248
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: the Day, but he's been a controversial figure on Match

1249
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: of the Day for many, many years and it's been

1250
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: building up to the fact that he's potentially going to

1251
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: leave Match of the Day and that's been confirmed in

1252
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. It seems they're not renewing

1253
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: his contract. That he went into negotiations, he says semi

1254
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: controversial things on social media mainly, and then the BBC

1255
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: do nothing about him, and then everyone goes, how come

1256
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: Gary Luniker gets the thing what he really wants, because

1257
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: you know what the BBC's like in terms of you

1258
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: know what you can and can't say, so so it

1259
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: all came to a bit of a head and he

1260
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 2: went to negotiators contract and they've decided, for reason's best

1261
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: known to themselves that he can go. And so he's

1262
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: out the door. He'll probably end up on ITV or

1263
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: somewhere like that.

1264
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 22: That's constantly door stopping him as he comes out out

1265
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 22: of his house. An't they is the classic dogs in

1266
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 22: their owners situation. There isn't there very much, sir.

1267
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: By the way, while I'm on ITV. ITV are currently

1268
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: the host broadcasters of the current snooker Championship which is

1269
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: going on called the Champion of Champions And I've noted

1270
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: with just just a delirious amount of excitement in the

1271
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: very early hours of the morning when I'm sitting here

1272
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: waiting for Sammy to arrive because he comes in later

1273
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: than me because he's not as dedicated to his job.

1274
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: But he brings in the cake and the sandwiches and

1275
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: we have a little picnic in the morning before he arrives. Anyway,

1276
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: they're running Sky's got snookerback on? Sky has got snooker

1277
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: back on? I said, where the hell is the snooker

1278
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: on Sky? And the next thing I know, they got

1279
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: snooker on Sky? So they got my subscription sorted out.

1280
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: I've got Sky go by the way that was part

1281
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: of the big television We got sky Go. Haven't used

1282
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: it yet, but and my wife said to me, what's

1283
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: the point of having sky Go if you're not going

1284
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: to use it?

1285
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews, the Mike Hosking

1286
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life, Your Way, News, Togs,

1287
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: Dead by Rock, definitely not.

1288
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: Is it our Za, of course it is. It wasn't

1289
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: sky Go sky Now? Sky Go, Yeah, sky Go now.

1290
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 22: So you have sky Now on your TV? Right, why

1291
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 22: would you have that when you already subscribe to sky though.

1292
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: Don't ask those sort of questions. What have I got

1293
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: that I haven't used sky Go now, sky Stop? I

1294
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: don't know what I've got?

1295
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 22: Just stop talking about it.

1296
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 20: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Ballet through the Mud, a completely instrumental and orchestral work

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Speaker 2: composed entirely by Wu Tang Clan. That those were the

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Speaker 2: people who did that that original albument for Lots of

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Speaker 2: Money perform at the Colorado Symphony Orchestra conducted by Christopher Dragon.

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Speaker 2: He'd probably say Dragon woulden Hello, I'm Christopher Dragon. Of

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Speaker 2: eleven pieces inspired by Riz's own life experiences and aims

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Speaker 2: to reflect his journey from being brought up in the

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Speaker 2: housing projects of Staaten, Ireland to his present state as

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Speaker 2: a star of the entertainment industry. Would we call him

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Speaker 2: a rock icon?

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Speaker 22: I don't think you call the Wu Tang Clan rock either.

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Speaker 2: Mothers which tracktisically?

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Speaker 22: This is clear Sky after Storm.

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Speaker 2: Track two, five minutes and twenty seven seconds feels like

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Speaker 2: it's been going on that long already, and it hasn't.

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Speaker 22: It's such a hater of classical music.

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Speaker 2: Each of their own Fingal's cave the Hebrides Overture. I

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Speaker 2: studied that at school. I regard myself as an expert

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Speaker 2: in the Hebrides Overture and also Beethoven's Third Piano Concerto.

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Speaker 2: I studied.

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Speaker 22: Yet here I am and how does how does resis work?

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Speaker 2: Where Rizzies are? I don't where risids? It's into any

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Speaker 2: of this moment's past state Time for politics Wednesday. Mark

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Speaker 2: Mitchell's with us along with Jenny Anderson. Good morning to

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Speaker 2: you both.

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Speaker 23: Morning, Mike, morning, Jenny, Good morning, Mark, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How were you Jinny yesterday with the apology? How did

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Speaker 2: that sort of feel?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 14: I was?

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Speaker 19: I was in shed Sex, so I got to sit

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Speaker 19: with survivors as we watched the live stream down in Wellington,

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Speaker 19: and that was a remarkable experience to sit and watch

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Speaker 19: Parliament alongside people who were heckling politicians and calling out

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Speaker 19: and responding with their own experiences. So it was humbling

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Speaker 19: and pretty heavy feeling. And then I got the opportunity

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Speaker 19: of talking with them because there's a number of breaks

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Speaker 19: during that time to talk to them, and they told

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Speaker 19: me about some of their experiences. So it was it was,

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Speaker 19: it was really heavy, and it was it felt like

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Speaker 19: a good day, but it was there was a lot

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Speaker 19: going on.

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Speaker 24: What about you, Marke, Yeah, I just think it was

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Speaker 24: an emotional day for sort of everyone involved, and it

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Speaker 24: was an important, an important historical day for us as

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Speaker 24: a country. And I think that, you know, although some

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Speaker 24: people say words don't matter, I think when it's an

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Speaker 24: apology and it's a heartfelt apology, then actually it does matter,

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Speaker 24: and that recognition matters. So I was one of one

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Speaker 24: of the ministers involved in the response by the government,

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Speaker 24: so I spent the full day with survivors. I had

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Speaker 24: a very interesting long chat with three gang members that

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Speaker 24: were there who all want to leave the gang and

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Speaker 24: looking for ways to do that. But so it's just

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Speaker 24: it was a good opportunity for all of us to

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Speaker 24: be able to spend quality time with them and send

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Speaker 24: a message that they had been heard, and now it's

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Speaker 24: time to move forward.

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Speaker 2: I've got more questions, but let me just get this

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Speaker 2: out of the way. Jerry brownly looks, and I got

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Speaker 2: to agree with them. Where this is not you, Mark?

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, there's an operational matter. But where were the police?

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Speaker 2: For goodness sake? If it was more than they were

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Speaker 2: super slow?

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Speaker 23: Oh, I think that's make might be gone.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's gone. What do you make of it?

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Speaker 23: Look it was I'm pretty sure it was.

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Speaker 19: It was a Destiny affiliated person who jumped up it

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Speaker 19: was first of all, was it was not his day?

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Speaker 23: It was it was offensive for some of those survivors

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Speaker 23: who were there. So usually the police are up there.

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Speaker 19: Whenever I'm sitting in question time, I can see a

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Speaker 19: police officer up there, So they typically are around. And

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Speaker 19: so I think it's hard sometimes in a full gallery

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Speaker 19: physically to weigh in amongst people and weed someone out

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Speaker 19: to infrasection remove them.

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Speaker 14: Sorry, for some reason, I dropped out, so I only

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Speaker 14: got part of your question.

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Speaker 2: The question was where were the police. I mean, Browny

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Speaker 2: was beside himself and I think, right if somebody had

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Speaker 2: a gun or a bomb or ill intent, it was

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Speaker 2: too slow.

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Speaker 24: So obviously Parliamentary Security handled it. And by the way,

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Speaker 24: they did an outstanding job.

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Speaker 2: And if there was the guy was yelling and renting

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Speaker 2: and raving for a ludicrous amount of time. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: help the contrast. And I was watching it live, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't help the contrast. If that was America, people would

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Speaker 2: have been taken out within seconds. In fact, they wouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: Given THEE was the serial operator, he wouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: lettin in the first place.

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Speaker 24: Well, bearing in mind that he's already come through security,

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Speaker 24: so he's already had security checks, so he wouldn't have

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Speaker 24: had weapons in there with them. Secondly that yes, they

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Speaker 24: could have jumped all over them. There could have been

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Speaker 24: a big fight with bearing in mind that we had

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Speaker 24: survivors and we had members of the public in there.

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Speaker 24: And the best way to handle it was the way

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Speaker 24: that Parliamentary Services did, and that they had to use force.

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Speaker 24: But they had the numbers there and they removed them

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Speaker 24: and what I think was probably the least impactful way. Yes,

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Speaker 24: it was annoying to have the ceremony interrupted like that,

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Speaker 24: but I think it would have been much worse if

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Speaker 24: there was serious violence meted out in front of people

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Speaker 24: that have suffered and gone through what they've gone through.

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Speaker 2: All Right, bree break more in a moment. Jenny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell thirteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, pw

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Speaker 1: it By News.

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Speaker 2: Talks Balks Caught a Past Day, Juniy Anderson, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday, Junior, I tell you who I sort of

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Speaker 2: felt sorry for yesterday was the Solicitor General. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure that people understand when all the department heads

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Speaker 2: stood up and said sorry. I thought the Department of

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Speaker 2: Health Guard was probably the best. But but but, Joe Goos,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that people understand that a lawyer is

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Speaker 2: there to represent their clients, in this case, the government,

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Speaker 2: and you do your best on behalf of that client

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Speaker 2: and whether or not it looks to the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world like the right thing to do is not

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Speaker 2: really the point, is it.

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Speaker 19: She would be acting on behalf of the government, so

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Speaker 19: the action she took are at that is due to that,

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Speaker 19: So you're right, Yeah, I thought her apology was heartfelt,

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Speaker 19: but it was you could say it was incredibly difficult

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Speaker 19: for her. But ye, I have to empathize also with

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Speaker 19: survivors who you know, her name is on emails. She's

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Speaker 19: obstructing people getting compensation, so you know, I can see both.

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Speaker 2: Of you, but under instruction from her client.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, she's not personally trying to obstruct anyone.

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Speaker 14: She's doing her job as a solicitor general.

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Speaker 24: And I wouldn't spoke I wouldn't spoke to as straight afterwards,

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Speaker 24: because look, there was as you could see, Mike, there's

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Speaker 24: a lot of emotion in the day, and these our

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Speaker 24: chief executives that stood up, and I thought they all

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Speaker 24: did an outstanding job. They're talking about things that have

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Speaker 24: happened in our past as a country and making an apology,

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Speaker 24: and so I think that she's, you know, she's she

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Speaker 24: does an outstanding job. I hope that she didn't take

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Speaker 24: that personally. I think it was directed at the office

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Speaker 24: and people were venting.

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Speaker 19: Would I think people too, it's it's the compensation issue,

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Speaker 19: which is outstanding. All of the survivors I spoke with,

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Speaker 19: you know, while the apology is just the start, abuse

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Speaker 19: is still happening there's a lot more worker here to

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Speaker 19: ensure that our care systems are safe by places. But

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Speaker 19: there are many people out there who are in the

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Speaker 19: latest stages of their lives who are due compensation.

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Speaker 23: I think that's the upsdeating question.

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Speaker 2: This is the can of worms you've got, Mark, is

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Speaker 2: that first of all, you must know, you all must

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Speaker 2: know that no matter what you do, someone somewhere is

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Speaker 2: going to be unhappy with it all. And so how

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Speaker 2: you present it when you present it in the time

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Speaker 2: And you can feel the pressure already, can't you.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, But I mean you know we have to respond

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Speaker 14: to that with the government of the day.

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Speaker 24: And that's what we're doing is Eric has already made

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Speaker 24: sure that we've put measures in place. There's four thousand

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Speaker 24: people that are still sitting there waiting, so we're going

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Speaker 24: to fast track them through a fast tracked process. And

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Speaker 24: of course the building fled out a proper readers system

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Speaker 24: that will be launched next year, because yes, we do

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Speaker 24: want to get this stune quickly.

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Speaker 2: Did you, Jenny, upon reading Audrey Young's piece in the

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Speaker 2: Herald basically ranking you the second most effective member of

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Speaker 2: the opposition, did you shout every one morning tea or.

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Speaker 19: No, we haven't head of caucus yet, so I haven't

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Speaker 19: had the opportunity to offer that. You know, we've got

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Speaker 19: a really strong team and I'm proud to be one

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Speaker 19: of those people were Just because you don't get picked

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Speaker 19: up by Audrey doesn't mean there's other hard people wishing

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Speaker 19: incredibly hard. So yeah, it was nice to be acknowledged,

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Speaker 19: but lots of other people who didn't get acknowledged were

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Speaker 19: just as hard as I do.

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Speaker 2: She described Duncan web as having a fairly inauspicious start

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Speaker 2: to life in terms of being a cabinet minister, and

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Speaker 2: basically she said, he is a bit useless, but he

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Speaker 2: might have come to life. Would you agree with it?

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Speaker 23: No, I wouldn't. Duncan's amazing.

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Speaker 19: It's really good to have someone with the breadth of

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Speaker 19: legal knowledge that he does in particularly and constitutional issues,

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Speaker 19: and we work together really closely on bills such as

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Speaker 19: the Treaty Principles one which is coming up this Thursday.

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Speaker 23: So having his knowledge and background is a huge set

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Speaker 23: for our team.

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Speaker 2: The old Treaty Principles. Bill, Mark, here's the text for

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Speaker 2: you this morning. Hi, Mike, I hope you're going to

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Speaker 2: give Mark Mitchell grief this morning over the Hikoy protest

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Speaker 2: posing down lanes on the Auckland Harbor Bridge. How do

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Speaker 2: you balance that?

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Speaker 24: Yes, So basically MTTA with a traffic management plan working

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Speaker 24: with the Hikoy police are there to ensure that there

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Speaker 24: is no breach to the peace or laws being broken. Fundamentally,

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Speaker 24: from what I understand, they crossing the bridge at nine

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Speaker 24: point thirty. Of course he would have preferred said a

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Speaker 24: bit later than that, But what's important, and they're shutting

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Speaker 24: down they're not shutting down southbound lane, So.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 24: So there's as little impact as possible on people, which

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Speaker 24: is of course what the aim is. The reality here

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Speaker 24: is it is much better to keep this and organized

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Speaker 24: hakoi than trying to break it up and splintering it

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Speaker 24: and you end up with a whole lot of unauthorized

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Speaker 24: protests going on all over the show, and that would

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Speaker 24: that would just create absolute chaos.

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Speaker 19: So you wouldn't it be easier though, But wouldn't it

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Speaker 19: be easier if Christopher Luxen just told they would say

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Speaker 19: more to stick a stupid bell.

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Speaker 23: Wouldn't that be amad really easy?

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Speaker 2: And then then all the people who voted in an

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Speaker 2: election and the democratic process Jenny wouldn't have what they

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Speaker 2: voted for, which would sort of make it slightly complicated,

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Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 19: What a bell that goes nowhere, a bill that goes

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Speaker 19: nowhere is the output or the outcome for that belt.

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Speaker 2: I do tend to agree with you on that. I

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: say the weird thing about it's not your problem, Mark,

1515
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: but I mean how Luxe and got that across the line,

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Speaker 2: to the point he got it across the lines the

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Speaker 2: weirdest thing because you guys must have known it was

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Speaker 2: going to be a pain in your butt in something

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Speaker 2: you're not supporting.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's called MMP.

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Speaker 24: And he had a very difficult job that he had

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Speaker 24: to take on in terms of negotiating with two other

1523
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Speaker 24: parties and there were bottom lines around those and he

1524
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Speaker 24: had to negotiate the best way forward and through that

1525
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Speaker 24: to former government. And Ginny Anderson and the Labor Party

1526
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Speaker 24: will find out all about m MP.

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Speaker 14: When they come to the election twenty six. Well, they'll

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Speaker 14: find out.

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Speaker 24: They'll find out the demands that are going to be

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Speaker 24: put on them if they want to campaign try and

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Speaker 24: form a government.

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Speaker 14: In twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 24: They're going to find out that they've got a partner

1534
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 24: to party, Marry Party that A're going to have some

1535
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 24: pretty ugly demands put on them.

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Speaker 19: It's it's the racial division, huge upheople that's causing.

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Speaker 23: Is just a political power deal.

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Speaker 21: That's what ke.

1539
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 23: We have a tough time. There's no output.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys. Will catch up next Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Ppreciate it very much. Genny Anderson, Mark Mitchell A twenty.

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Speaker 2: a little bit perky. In Australia, consumer confidence highest level

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Speaker 2: in almost three years. This is the Westpac Melbourne Institute

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01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: Measure five point three. It's up by It's now up

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Speaker 2: fourteen and a half percent since the middle of the year,

1570
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: so they're feeling good. Australians no longer concerned about the

1571
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 2: risk of further interest rate rises, becoming more confident about

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Speaker 2: the economic outlook, all of which is good for the

1573
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: Government of course he became. Elbow became a little bit

1574
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: testy with the reporters yesterday because he was busy going

1575
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: I can't Apparently we're in the thrills of an election campaign.

1576
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: He's speaking in Tasmania and he was asked multiple times

1577
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: about electure reports that the WA premier guy called Roger

1578
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: Cook is looking to change the Western Australian election date

1579
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: to avoid a clash with the federal election date, so

1580
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: currently scheduled for March eight. So he if the rumors

1581
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: are true, Elbow's going early. He's got to go. I

1582
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: think by May. There was a story floating around for

1583
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 2: a while he could have gone this year, but this

1584
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: year's turned into such a disaster for him he can't

1585
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: possibly do that, so March eight. So he got all

1586
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: sort of angsty about that. And if I get time,

1587
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: the other thing they've been investigating, and this is proof positive.

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: I suppose that if you have more competition, that brings

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: prices down. Since Rex and BONDSA fell over, airlines prices

1590
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: have gone up by as much as ninety five percent,

1591
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: So competition does appear to work anyway. More on the

1592
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: shortly after the News, which is next on the Mike

1593
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast here at news talks eNB.

1594
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover villa designed to

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Speaker 1: intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: That'd be it is the funniest story of the last

1598
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: two days. This wicked business. Mattel's had to pull all

1599
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: the Wicked branded dolls because this is target Walmart, Amazon,

1600
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: Best Buy, Barnes and Noble Macy's millions of dollars worth

1601
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: of trouble. We deeply regret this unfortunate error and are

1602
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: taking immediate action to remedy this Wicked's coming to a

1603
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,480
Speaker 2: movie theater near you. Parents are advised that the misprinted,

1604
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: incorrect website is not appropriate for children. Consumers who already

1605
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: have the product are advised to discard the product packaging

1606
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: and obscure the link, and may contact MATEL customer service

1607
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: for more information. I don't know what matel customer service again.

1608
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 2: It do apart from telling you throw the box out

1609
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: films in November twenty two, it does lead to the

1610
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: fascinating question, how does this happen? You're asking, well, what

1611
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: the hell's happened? What's happened is that the address they've

1612
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: given for the wicked dolls on the box takes you

1613
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: directly to a pawn site. And that wasn't what was

1614
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't what they were planning.

1615
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 22: No, No, I thought they were sounding like good value

1616
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 22: for money.

1617
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: So it's off the shelf, twenty two minutes away from nine.

1618
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 16: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

1619
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 16: for New Zealand.

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: Business, so friendly, we go through price. Very good morning

1621
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: to you. Good morning Kevin rudde So they're not pulling

1622
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: him from the job. He stays there. But I don't

1623
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: know how he digs himself out of us.

1624
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 20: No, I don't know.

1625
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 11: Obviously, Kevin Rudd was the Captain's picked by Anthony Albanezi

1626
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 11: to be ambassador to the United States. Any of us

1627
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 11: me included, who know Kevin Rudd, immediately thought this is

1628
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 11: going to spill trouble for somebody down the track. Well,

1629
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 11: they never thought Donald Trump would get elected, that includes

1630
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 11: the Prime Minister. So when Donald Trump won this time

1631
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 11: last week, everybody started digging around looking at things that

1632
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 11: Kevin Rudd and Anthony Albanezi in fact had said about

1633
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 11: Donald Trump in the past, and Shari Mark's and My

1634
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 11: colleague on Sky last night managed to find old video

1635
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 11: of Kevin calling Donald Trump a village idiot who likes

1636
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 11: to hang out with dictators. Now, how do you think

1637
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 11: that's going to go down? When Kevin turns up with

1638
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 11: his little documents that the White House wants Trump's back

1639
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 11: in the presidential office and says, look, we need a

1640
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 11: bit of help with the Orchest submarine player program, or

1641
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 11: we don't want you to put tariffs on Australian wine.

1642
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just not going to go well. Kevin

1643
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 11: Rudd is his own worst enemy. I mean, I've told

1644
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 11: you before about how he called me a Douglas coward

1645
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 11: in a letter he wanted to publish publicly in the newspaper.

1646
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 11: I wrote a column for the guy just he thinks,

1647
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 11: and this is the other. He's so arrogant that he

1648
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 11: didn't wipe his social media history of things he'd said

1649
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 11: about Trump until this time last week when Trump won.

1650
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 11: So he's not even gone back and gone on all

1651
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 11: this guy might be a chance to win. Het Kamala

1652
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 11: Harris was going to win. So I don't know how

1653
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 11: he survives. The British ambassador, who had already had also

1654
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 11: said bad things about Trump resigned after a couple of days.

1655
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 2: So I don't know how the brutish Lammy David Lamy

1656
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 2: said it's old news. I mean, what are they saying efficient?

1657
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: What does Rudd say officially? What does Elbow say officially

1658
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: about it?

1659
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 11: Well, Alba was confronted by about this media conference in

1660
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 11: Tasmania yesterday, took one question, then turned his back and

1661
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 11: walked away. Kevin Rudd has said nothing and the only

1662
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 11: information we have about Rudd's current activities apparently he's in

1663
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 11: the year of Scott Morrison, the former Prime Minister, to

1664
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 11: try and smooth things over and get him the channel

1665
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 11: to Trump. Now, Morrison did the Orchest deal originally with

1666
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 11: Trump when Trump was in power, and Morrison is now

1667
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 11: involved in a lobbying company that deals in defense industries

1668
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 11: and he's actually a partnered up with Mike Pompeio. They

1669
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 11: both thought that Pompeo would be in the new Trump administration.

1670
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 11: Of course he's not.

1671
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Elbow going to ape.

1672
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 11: It's going to Apac And the G twenty says in

1673
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 11: Peru first and then he's in Rio, and quite rightly,

1674
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 11: the Opposition Foreign Affairs spokesman Simon Birmingham said, well, while

1675
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 11: you're over there, why wouldn't you make an appointment to

1676
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 11: go to Mara Lago, drag your coat through the gate

1677
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 11: and go and see don and see if he can

1678
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 11: smooth things over and work out what's going to happen

1679
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 11: when all these tariffs come on. Albo said, well, it's

1680
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 11: not on the way. Well, it's a fair bit on

1681
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 11: the way. I would have thought, I mean Peru, and

1682
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 11: I haven't looked at the map lately, but.

1683
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: Peru, Well it's only America's, isn't it Exactly?

1684
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 11: He's got a private jet. I mean, wouldn't it make sense?

1685
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 11: Or somehow you think that if you go and see

1686
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 11: him before he actually gets inaugurted, you're going to upset

1687
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 11: Joe Biden. Well, I don't know about that, because it's

1688
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 11: revealed this morning in Australian that the Prime Minister is

1689
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 11: not having any on the sidelines meetings with Joe Biden

1690
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 11: when he's at these meetings anyway, So what's the point.

1691
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: I watched Elbow yesterday in TASMANI you got very upsets.

1692
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: So two things about it. One does wa election date?

1693
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 2: How much do you read into that? So March therefore

1694
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 2: they're trying to rig that around, So that could be

1695
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: a federal election date and what isn't wins the day there?

1696
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: Is that real or not?

1697
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's real. I mean I've got a feeling he

1698
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 11: will like to go in March, mainly because the next

1699
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 11: time the Reserve Backboard meets they won't put rates down

1700
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 11: this year, so it would be in the February meeting,

1701
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 11: and that means that in the middle of an election

1702
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 11: campaign you'd have an interest rate cut. Now that's a

1703
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 11: pretty tempting thing if you're a Prime minister who's backing

1704
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 11: his whole administration on the cost of living. So that's

1705
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 11: why he would go. Then the Western Australian election, I

1706
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 11: mean they have set dates. Most states in this country

1707
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 11: are now on four year terms with set dates on

1708
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 11: when elections are, so the WA government would have to

1709
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 11: go to I guess the governor of Western Australia and

1710
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 11: see if they can delay the date. But Albo looks

1711
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 11: It's interesting you mentioned that media conference. He looks comfortable,

1712
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 11: nervous and when challenged now gets angry. Now that's the

1713
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 11: sign for me of someone under huge pressure.

1714
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, Hailey Mary, I know not the name, but she's

1715
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: been canned. What for you love this?

1716
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 11: She's a singer songwriter that no one's herd of, but

1717
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 11: Hailey Mary or Hail Mary, She's going to be known

1718
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 11: from now on. Decided to put on a Maga hat

1719
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 11: in a video clip that she said she made intentionally

1720
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,440
Speaker 11: for shock value. Now, she was arguing against this misinformation

1721
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 11: bill that the government's trying to put through the Australian Parliament,

1722
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 11: and I'll talk about that at some point next week.

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Speaker 11: She said, Look, it would have been boring if I

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Speaker 11: didn't put the hat on. So what's happened since? Well?

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Speaker 21: You know?

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Speaker 11: She her publicist has resigned the music venue where she

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01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 11: was going to perform, scrapped her show to promote the

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Speaker 11: solo album, and ABC youth broadcaster Triple J has blacklisted

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01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 11: her music just because she put the mega hat on.

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01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 11: But she's a pretty spark girl, she said, Look, I

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01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 11: was aware what would happen, but I think the bill's

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01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 11: so dangerous I needed to do it. The hat was

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01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 11: a symbolic way to announce the voluntary end of my

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01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 11: career career in the woke music industry. You've got to

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01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 11: get this girl on, said, I think the art should

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01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 11: be a place for freedom of speech. She knew it'd

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 11: be triggering to put the hat on, But I think

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Speaker 11: Trump is the president of the free world. Seventy three

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01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 11: million people voted for it, and I'm not sure if

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01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 11: we need to change our relationship. Well, that good honor.

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Speaker 14: I like her.

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01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: No, I like her. We'll give us a number and

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01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 2: we'll get on to it. Well, I mat, we'll catch

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: up next week. Appreciate it. Steve Price out of Australia

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Speaker 2: already sixteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: AD be some maths here, I'll come to in just

1749
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: a moment. Yeah, the air fist thing. This is bonds

1750
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: are and rex. So this backs up people who argue

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01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: that we need more airlines. The problem with we don't

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01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: have room for more airlines. Every time another airline comes

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01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: into the country, they fall over because there aren't enough

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Speaker 2: people in this country to support more air lines. And

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Speaker 2: we've just learned in Australia, of course, there aren't enough

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: people in Australia to support the number of airlines they had.

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01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: Hence bonds are and rex fall over. The report comes

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01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: out from the ARIPLEC yesterday the Australian Competition Consumer Commission

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01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: that since REX went into administration in July, airfares on

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: major routes have gone through the roof, so there is

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01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: no longer any route in Australia serves by more than

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01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 2: two major airline groups Quantus owned Jetstar and then there's Virgin,

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01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: so they carry ninety eight percent of all domestic passengers.

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: Adelaide to Melbourne is up ninety five percent one way

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01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: for discounted fares, Melbourne Gold Coast up seventy percent. In July,

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Speaker 2: REX accounted for six percent of all seak capacity. Since

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01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 2: the Airlian's administration, total capacity on major routes is full

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: and six percent. So that's what happens with the lack

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Speaker 2: of competition. So the argument here that we need more

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01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 2: competition is right. And I know that the Consumer's Institute

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01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: are banging on endlessly at the moment about getting the

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01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 2: ComCom involved in air New Zealand and what they're charging

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01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: around the countryside. But the problem is we just don't

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01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: have enough people to support more airlines. What we do

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: have enough people for, apparently is more streaming services and

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01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 2: so Sky now, I'm loving my Sky now when I

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01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 2: turn my television on my big new screen and my

1778
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: snug I see Sky now sitting there and I haven't

1779
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: done anything with it, but it is sitting there and

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01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm paying money. But as of this morning, listen to this.

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01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: This will blow your mind. Prime Video. Prime is one

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: of your subscription services, which I also have, and I

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: know it exists because they're the ones who ran Clarkson's Farm,

1784
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: and that was the last time I watched Clarkson's For

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01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,520
Speaker 2: the last time I watched anything on Prime was Clarkson's

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01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 2: Farm in Grandeur of course Grandeur. Yeah, did watch the

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01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: Grand Tour. But they're now offering as of today, add

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 2: on subscriptions, so you pay for your Prime, and because

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01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: you pay for your Prime, you can pay even more

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: for some of their ad ons, so they're adding all

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01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 2: sorts of interesting things like MGM plus, Hey you, lions Gate,

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01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: Crunchy Roll. Be in sports. That'll be a genuine, genuine

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01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: interest to a lot of people. Be in sports, carry

1794
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: a lot of football, of course. My one's doc play

1795
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 2: now doc play interesting. Doc play has the home of

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01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: in Restless Dreams, which is a documentary that's got a

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01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: lot of buzz around. Paul Simon in excess of three hours.

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01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: It's the quintessential. If you love Paul Simon like I do,

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01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: it is the documentary apparently to watch.

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Speaker 22: As I say that this is the one that you

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01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 22: haven't been able to find.

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01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: Haven't been able to find? Oh, and now I can

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01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: because on doc Play at eight ninety nine a month,

1804
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 2: I can subscribe to doc Play and then I can

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01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: watch immediately Paul Simon, because that's where it is. But

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: here's the problem. I was just quickly doing these maths.

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01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: If you take all of the services they are now

1808
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 2: offering to subscribe to rialto's one of them, Moby Love,

1809
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 2: Nature Play, Kids Learning, you can add along with your

1810
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: Amazon price, whatever your Amazon price currently is. I don't know,

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01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: you can add ninety eight dollars a month, ninety eight

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01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 2: dollars a month, and you will have presumably every single

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01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: program that's ever been made in the history of television basically.

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 22: But I mean, you're probably unlikely to be a person

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01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 22: who wants your Paul Simon documentary and also wants to

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01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 22: avail yourself of all the anime that's available on crunchy roll,

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01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 22: for example.

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01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: That's true.

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01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 22: I don't know, I don't really mark you as a

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01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 22: big anime fan.

1821
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 2: Wohen at the moment, I've got about teen twelve thirteen

1822
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 2: fifteen subscriptions.

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Speaker 22: You don't know.

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01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: I don't watch any of them.

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 22: Apparently, not only as a Sky subscriber, but you're also

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01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 22: paying for Sky Now, which is what people get if

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01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 22: they're not Sky subscribers.

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01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 2: Also Neon, which is connected.

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01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 22: Exactly thing again as well. Yeah, So what you're.

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01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: Saying is there are people out there, probably not many

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 2: of us, but a lot of idiots out there that

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01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: pay money for stuff they don't watch.

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Speaker 10: You.

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01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: Before you know it, I'm probably going to be on

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01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: Crunchy roll and I'll probably never watch any animal that's

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01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: nine ninety nine a month ten bucks a month.

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01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 22: Right, Hey, Jim and I create an anime version of

1838
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 22: Mike Hosking to play on Crunchy Role.

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01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Breakfast with Vita Tament, GM News, Togsdad b.

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Speaker 2: So earlier we talked about the amazing Central Otago wine

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Speaker 2: MacArthur Ridge Right Southern Tour twenty two got a lot

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Speaker 2: laws drive from the typical wine growing regions of Central

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Speaker 2: Otago and it makes it New Zealand's southernmost vineyard, which

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Speaker 2: they credit for the superb taste. Now, Southern Tow twenty

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Speaker 2: two became the most awarded twenty two pen and War

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Speaker 2: in the country picked up the Decanter Award, the most

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Speaker 2: prestigious of them all. Also received Best in Show at

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Speaker 2: the Decanterworld Wine Awards in London, scored an amazing ninety

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Speaker 2: seven out of one hundred. The bad news remarkable wine

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Speaker 2: from a new player is almost impossible to find now.

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Speaker 2: So the good news is MacArthur's Ridge twenty three was

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Speaker 2: named Champion pin and Ware and Champion Wine at this

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Speaker 2: year's New Zealand International Wine Show, So they're looking good.

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Speaker 2: So this is the one. You can still get MacArthur

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01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: Ridge Southern Tour twenty three to find out more, maybe

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Speaker 2: order a little bit of something for yourself. Macarthurridge dot com.

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Speaker 2: Got it, Macarthurridge dot com. Paskig, I call you to

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01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: is watch television all the weekend? What are you saying?

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: Men's got a Deacon priss with the beer and sport

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01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 2: five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Wars Great Savings every.

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Speaker 2: Day like it was negative. Yeah, I watched television all weekend.

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01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: I got a trailer for the new Bridget Jones movie.

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01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: This is the fourth first to Night years. So it's

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01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 2: been a while navigating life. Of course, after mister Darcy

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01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 2: dies while while while on a humanitarian mission, Bridget, you're

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01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: a widow with two wonderful children live.

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Speaker 6: Advice to you is put your own oxygen mask on first.

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Speaker 10: You just have late and not enough to survive. You've

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Speaker 10: got to live, Harry child.

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Speaker 2: Now that is what I call a green brand.

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01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 5: Did you have sex?

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Speaker 14: Did you have sex?

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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Did you have sex last night?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I did.

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01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,520
Speaker 2: I had a full night of utterly mind.

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01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: Blowing sex and it was amazing.

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Speaker 22: I'm good, Daniel, Minota Darcy. What's the news? Why are

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01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 22: the ladies with the big hair?

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01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 10: Well, they couldn't make it.

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid that i'd washing their hair all three Well,

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01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: they wash each other's.

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Speaker 22: You see.

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Speaker 2: He's good, isn't he.

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01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 15: I love him.

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Speaker 2: I love him as much as I love Paul Simon,

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01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 2: and that's a lot of love. Bridget Jones made about

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01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: the boy Zellwegger, obviously Leo Woodle. You'll know from White

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01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 2: Lotus he's the love Interest. Isle of Fish's back, Emma

1893
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: Thompson's there, Hugh Grant of course, and it comes to

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01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: cinemas February thirteen. Actually, speaking of other people, I love

1895
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 2: after right tomorrow Steve Elker. He's had such a wonderful

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01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 2: time this year and we get him on every time

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01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 2: he wins something massive, and he's won something massive, so

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01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 2: we thought, let's get him on again, so we will.

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Speaker 2: So we'll look forward to your company from six tomorrow

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Speaker 2: as always, Happy days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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