1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,519 Speaker 1: Ninety from the Broadcasting Minister, who has some thoughts around 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: the screen and television sector and New Zealand on air 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: and the film Commission get merged. The big stream is 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: like Netflix have more, well, they've got to support more 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: allegedly local content South Pacific Pictures in the Andrew Schusteman's 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: with Us Andrew Morning to you, Morning Mark how I 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I I'm very well, thank you. An observation about Paul Goldsmith. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: He seems disinterested in the portfolio. Am I being unfair? 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm surprised about how interested it is. I actually think 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: that the recommendations that came out of mcchs say are 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: putting on the money. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Good, so that's encouraging. So I've been wrong in that. 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: It's just I'm going back to this business of the 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: news Google paying for stuff and they just don't seem 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: to have an urgency about them. You see something different. 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, idea, it's difficult. You know, the Digital Bargaining Act 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: is a whole different kettle of fish. There are similarities, 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: but what we're talking about is a broadcasting Act that 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: was you know, put in place in nineteen eighty nine, 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: a year that TV three was creating the year before 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: SkyTV in two years after you guys become news talk. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: So it's a long time ago and the world has 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: fundamentally changed. There's been very limited touches to that. But 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: what we now have is that obviously, along with ad 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: revenues we have audiences are migrating to just streaming platforms 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: with great content and local content. Players are getting lisped 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: out of the play There is nothing unusual from a 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: global play There are countries all over the world that 29 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: are now looking at how to implement the streamers within 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: their portfolios within their countries. So it's a good move. 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: And what I really loved about the mcch paper is 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: so mich was that it's on the money. They've consulted 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: the industry and the things that the recommendations or the 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: proposals that they're questioning for submissions are pretty good. 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: But consultation is not action. When you go to Netflix 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: and they go get lost, you're at the bottom of 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: the world. We've got bigger fish to fry than one. 38 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure this isn't the first dance they've had 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: around this globally. Bike In fact, it so they'll have 40 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: a playbook that they'll play to. But you know, I 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: think the catch all situation. Obviously there's trade agreements that 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: negate the ability for just activity on the streamers. What 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: we do have to realize in New Zealand broadcast is 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 2: that although there are you know, the charter for tvm 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: Z was thrown out in twenty twelve, there are actually 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: no regulations around quotas or the amount of content local 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: content played on any of the players. What this does 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: is effective who proposed as a catch all, It'll catch 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: every player a market and go Look, there's going to 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: have to be a content requirement where you know, the 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: options are varied. There is people that talk about levies, 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: but the requirements they're talking about is a percentage of 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: gross revenue that would then be spent on local contents. 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: A win one insummation. We're moving at last, and we're 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: in the right direction. 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: I think. So. Look, honestly, I'm surprised and happily surprised. 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: We've been looking for this for quite some time, the 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: rumors ruminating out of Wellington, this is going to be coming. 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: And from an industry professional point of view, you read 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: this and from a local production point of view, from 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: a prominence point of view, from the broadcasts of being 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: on remotes and having apps on TVs. These guys have 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: actually done a really good job and implored it's the 64 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: Minister NMCCH for finally acknowledging what government's successive governments of 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: both types have been kicking ten down the road since 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: the mid nineties. 67 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: Well done, Andrew appreciated very much. Andrew's system in South 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Pacific Pictures. What did I call them? Managing director? That'll 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: live Managing director. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 70 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.