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Speaker 1: The huddled with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty exceptional marketing

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Speaker 1: for every property.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the huddle of us. It is even We've got

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Speaker 2: Tri Shurson, Shirson Willis pr and Joe Spagani Child Funds

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Speaker 2: Chief Executive. Hell are you too? Hello Josie? What about

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Speaker 2: the power pylon? I mean, how good is that?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Unbelievable. So, I mean, things like this don't just happens.

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Speaker 3: There's usually when something stupid, remarkably stupid like this happens,

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Speaker 3: then there's something wrong in the health and safety of

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Speaker 3: that organization and the safe practices of that organization. Anyone

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Speaker 3: who's run a business at all knows that if something

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Speaker 3: like this happens, there's never one cockroach right, there's something

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Speaker 3: wrong at the heart of transpower when it comes to safety.

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Speaker 3: So I know that the Minister Simeon Brown's called for

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Speaker 3: I think the Electricity Authority to review it and do

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Speaker 3: an investigation. Absolutely right thing to do. But this is

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Speaker 3: totally bizarre. I mean, to remove all the bolts from

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Speaker 3: You know, even I, as a non engineer, can work

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Speaker 3: out if you do that, the thing's going to fall over.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, yes, it might be in competence. It

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Speaker 3: might even be sabotage. Who knows. We don't know no

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Speaker 3: alleged wrongdoing yet at all, But we don't know what

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Speaker 3: it is, and the investigation will tell you. But it

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Speaker 3: does tell you that even if it is all of

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Speaker 3: those things, there's something wrong an organization that deals with

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Speaker 3: such serious stuff like energy electricity. Same with any big

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Speaker 3: infrastructure organization. Every single incident matters. If your chair collapse

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Speaker 3: is in an office, you report it, you know, because

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Speaker 3: one thing that goes wrong usually means there are other

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Speaker 3: things going on too.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon? Trisha has gone on here with

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Speaker 2: the comms because on Friday they were saying no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we're going to focus on getting the power restored and

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Speaker 2: then we'll do the investigation. Well they've only got the

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Speaker 2: power restored yesterday, and that's a very fast investigation. So

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Speaker 2: they've obviously changed their minds about needing to front up,

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Speaker 2: haven't they.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, overall, it does feel a little bit

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Speaker 4: like New Zealand has a screw loose at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't actually things are, but things are falling apart all

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Speaker 4: over the place. I wonder whether what they needed to

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Speaker 4: do was buy some time early on, because actually it

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Speaker 4: was so serious the loss of power to Northland that

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Speaker 4: they probably needed to buy time and get the power

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Speaker 4: back on. And then what they've probably realized over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: and Mayor Brown and Auckland probably assisted them along, is

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Speaker 4: to realize that most people could see when you look

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Speaker 4: at what happened, and when you see the pictures of

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Speaker 4: the plate that you know, it looked like screws had

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Speaker 4: been taken out, nothing had been forced or wrenched. So

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Speaker 4: I think they were probably forced into a position today

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Speaker 4: where they had to come out and try and get

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Speaker 4: ahead of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so speak you might be right speaking of things

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Speaker 2: falling apart, Josie. How much trouble is the government on

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Speaker 2: the fairy drama?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, you'd have to say that they were right

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Speaker 3: to go in and cancel what was an absolutely ridiculous contract.

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Speaker 3: You know, let's just look at the numbers of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got a ferry that brings a faery business.

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Speaker 3: Our Inter Island ferry brings in about one hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty million revenue not profit revenue a year, and they

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Speaker 3: were going to spend over three billion dollars replacing the

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Speaker 3: old fairies. So I mean, at some point that's too

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Speaker 3: much money, right, it just doesn't make any sense. So

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Speaker 3: I get why they canceled it, and it was the

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Speaker 3: right thing to do. I think the problem they've got now,

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Speaker 3: as Trisha said, it feels like the bolts noting out of.

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Speaker 2: New Look Josie. Their problem was they canceled fairies we

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Speaker 2: needed Regardle. I mean that I agree it was the

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Speaker 2: right court, but they didn't give us an alternative. They

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Speaker 2: didn't go canceling these ridiculous ones. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: these ones instead because we still need them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but to be fair, buying a new fairy isn't

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Speaker 3: like going to the car yard and going I'll have

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Speaker 3: that old Toyota Corolla, thanks very much. I mean to

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Speaker 3: me that the blame here shoots back to the border

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Speaker 3: Kiwi Rail, and you know, I don't think it's any accident.

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Speaker 3: They say it's nothing to do with it, but that

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Speaker 3: Dave mcclaim, the board chairperson, resigned this weekend or you know, recently,

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Speaker 3: And I do think it's it's it is Kiwi Rail

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Speaker 3: that has not They've fallen in love with this sort

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Speaker 3: of unicorns and fairies at the bottom of the garden

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Speaker 3: idea of having a three billion dollar you know, ferry

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Speaker 3: with trains going on and whatnot, and they failed to

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Speaker 3: actually see actually the situation was far more urgent and

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Speaker 3: that was going to be actually user friendly. So I

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Speaker 3: don't know that you can. But what I was going

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Speaker 3: to say is, I think the problem for the government

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Speaker 3: is it just plays into even though they're not to blame,

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Speaker 3: it plays into this narrative that the bolts have come

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Speaker 3: out in New Zealand. It's falling apart at the scenes.

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Speaker 3: What the hell are they doing? You know, So even

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Speaker 3: though we're not blaming them, we want them to solve it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, we're just going to stop there.

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Speaker 1: Atre.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get your take on it when we

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Speaker 2: come back from the break the Huddle.

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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's international realty, unparalleled.

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Speaker 2: Reach and results back with the Huddle, Josephganny and Treshurson

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Speaker 2: Sherson Treasure Rather, what do you think of how much

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Speaker 2: trouble the government is on the fairy drama.

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Speaker 4: I think the Faery Drama is a big problem for

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Speaker 4: the government in the future if they don't get a

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Speaker 4: solve quickly for it now. But what we saw over

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Speaker 4: the weekend is to Josie's point around the management of

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Speaker 4: these fairies, you know, the problem has been under investment

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Speaker 4: in maintenance over many years. And the other thing that

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Speaker 4: it's highlighted to us is, you know, number one, cooks

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Speaker 4: the Cook Strait is part of State Highway one in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. It is an absolutely critical link for for

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Speaker 4: freight and for the New Zealand supply chain, so we

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Speaker 4: need to have reliability, you know, reliable fairies to get

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Speaker 4: goods and people across there. But number two, what the

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Speaker 4: weekend also highlighted is that key we rail and the

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Speaker 4: previous the previous government, we're far too late in ordering

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Speaker 4: the new fairies because what we're seeing with the existing

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Speaker 4: fleet is they just you know, we're having to band

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Speaker 4: aid them together to even keep them on the water.

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Speaker 4: And the other point someone raised with me over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: which is a good one, is to remember that New

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Speaker 4: Zealand's Cook Straight is known in maritime circles as one

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Speaker 4: of the more challenging and dangerous stretches of water. So

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Speaker 4: you know that heightens the risk if you've got you know,

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Speaker 4: ships like this, particularly in the dead of winter going

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Speaker 4: across deep cold waters. If we haven't had another disaster

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Speaker 4: like this on another night when the weather was rough,

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Speaker 4: you know, it doesn't even be thinking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a fair point. Okay, are you

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Speaker 2: Trish into the Descinder doco?

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Speaker 4: Well? I love the story because these kind of Hollywood

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Speaker 4: docos are really in at the moment. If you think

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Speaker 4: of the big blockbusters in the last few years, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've had the Beckhams, we have had Robbie Williams telling

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Speaker 4: his life story and his undies sitting on his bed

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Speaker 4: and this.

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Speaker 3: To me, will will do that Trish?

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Speaker 4: That would be I don't think. I don't think jessin

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Speaker 4: there will be in arounding on the bed, but it'll

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Speaker 4: be in this kind of a style. And often these

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Speaker 4: documentaries are almost a story of a you know, a

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Speaker 4: redemption story on the part of the main protagonist. So

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Speaker 4: I think it will be very interesting a to see

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Speaker 4: how the portrayal goes, but be what the outtake is,

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Speaker 4: because I would imagine between New Zealand and international audiences,

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Speaker 4: as we know with the perception of Dame Jcinder overall,

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Speaker 4: there is you know, night and day between what the

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Speaker 4: global audience thinks and what New Zealander's experience was of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckon? Are you into it? Josie?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the problem with this and people are

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Speaker 3: entitled to make these documentaries and I think it will

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Speaker 3: be interesting. Trisha, I think you're right because often these

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Speaker 3: documentaries reveal things it don't necessarily intend to reveal. And

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Speaker 3: I think that was the case probably with the Robbie

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Speaker 3: Williams one as well, that the story you think you're

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Speaker 3: telling isn't necessarily the one that people are hearing. But

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Speaker 3: I think the main problem for me about this is

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Speaker 3: that it's made by someone who's clearly a fangirl, right, So,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think the quotes today were things like

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Speaker 3: this is she continues, Dame Juster Sinda continues to be

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Speaker 3: an inspiration to everyone, including me. It's an empowering, moving,

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Speaker 3: boundary pushing story. Now that that's okay. People are entitled

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Speaker 3: to be fans and to make documentaries about people they

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Speaker 3: really admire. But what would be so much more interesting

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Speaker 3: if they were examining why it is that in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand we fell in love with Jacinda. Seventy percent of us.

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Speaker 3: You know, she embodied our values and we backed her

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Speaker 3: and it dropped from seventy percent to twenty percent. Now,

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Speaker 3: the story to me in a documentary is how did

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Speaker 3: that happen? And why did that happen? And it's a

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Speaker 3: shame they can't tell that story.

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Speaker 2: That is actually quite an interesting young in and of itself. Guys,

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for Shirs

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Speaker 2: and Joseph PEGANI Hosking is going to be in a day.

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Speaker 2: It's a doco, so they'll have bits of him, won't they.

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