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Speaker 1: And we've got good news meantime from the campus. Though

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Speaker 1: international student numbers are all but back to pre COVID levels.

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Speaker 1: Across eight unis there are around twenty thousand full time

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Speaker 1: foreign students right now. The university's New Zealand CEO, Chris Wheelan,

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Speaker 1: is back with us.

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Speaker 2: Chris morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: So this is good because tourism hasn't managed to do

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Speaker 1: what you guys have, which is encouraging. Does this cement

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Speaker 1: our reputation? In other words, it's not permanently damaged.

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Speaker 2: Look, I certainly think so. All the feedback we're receiving

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Speaker 2: from agents networks and student networks overseas is it's great

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Speaker 2: to have these ends back open. We're seen as a

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Speaker 2: high quality destination to come and get a qualification, and

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Speaker 2: we are relatively free from a lot of the turmoil

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Speaker 2: that's being experienced around the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: Is it the same country, as the same makeup or

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Speaker 1: as things changed?

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Speaker 2: It's very much the same countries. International education takes a

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Speaker 2: long time to shift countries, so majority of US students

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Speaker 2: are still coming from China, then a big step down

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Speaker 2: to India. These will always be very very important markets

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Speaker 2: to us, and we have incredibly strong relationships with those countries.

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Speaker 2: But obviously, you know, we're also looking at expanding into

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Speaker 2: different markets as you know, the world's education system changes

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Speaker 2: over time.

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Speaker 1: Does the Australian scenario help us? That's got very angsty

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Speaker 1: Dunton's promising massive fees, all that sort of stuff. Do

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Speaker 1: we look better because of that?

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Speaker 2: Well, this is why I say we are protected from

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Speaker 2: a lot of the turmoil facing the rest of the world.

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Speaker 2: Most of our competitor markets have policy settings that are

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Speaker 2: making them quite unattractive now to international students. So China,

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Speaker 2: that's sorry. Canada, I'm sorry, put a hard limit on

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Speaker 2: student numbers well below their current levels, and they just

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Speaker 2: haven't had enrollment to get even close to their target

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Speaker 2: because you know, agents and students have kind of gone.

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Speaker 2: Canada's closed for business. So countries, like you saidn't look

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Speaker 2: pretty good in that context.

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Speaker 1: Fiscally, is it working?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, look at you know, and obviously money is only

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Speaker 2: a part of why we do this. It's great to

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Speaker 2: see the look for life back on our camp, you know,

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Speaker 2: with the internstrial students and you know what they bring.

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Speaker 2: But absolutely, at a time when you know, you know

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Speaker 2: there are financial challenges they are very welcome.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Nice to catch up Chris Wheeland University's New

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